In this episode of Stay Free With Russell Brand, host Russell Brand is joined by fellow conservative presidential hopeful and former Florida Governor Ron DeSantis to discuss the possibility of civil war breaking out in the United States, and why it s a real possibility. Is it a real threat? Is it being used as a distraction? Or is it just the latest in a long line of attempts to stoke fear and destabilize the American people? And what role does the legacy media play in perpetuating the fear and panic that s being stoked by the media and other powerful interests? And who will win the Supreme Court challenge to remove Donald Trump from the ballot in California if they can find a legal means to do so? And who s going to replace Donald Trump as the next president of the USA if he s kicked off the ballot? And what will that person do in the event that Trump is removed from the Colorado ballot? Stay Free with Russell Brand and the rest of the Stay Free team! Subscribe to stay free and keep up to date on all things political and current events. Stay Free, Stay woke, Stay Progressive, and Don t Get Lost in the Storm! . - Russell Brand Leave Us a Review on Apple Podcasts and Don't Tell a Friend about This or Leave Us What You Think About This or Share It On Apple Podcast, We're listening to this or Share it on Insta: or share it on your Story and Share It on Instapaper We'll See The Future with Us on Weebly, We'll Be Listened to It On Social Media! , and We'll Have A Podcasts, And We'll Hear From You On The Ground, and On The Vineyard, And The Other Side Of This Podcast, And So Much More! Subscribe To Our Social Media - Subscribe To This Is The Future, Subscribe To Weeb Radio, And This Is What We're Gonna Do It On The Next Episode Of This Is Going To Be Our Best Podcasts? , And This Will Be Our First Official Podcast, Learn More About Us, And More Like This And This And That Will Be More Like That Will Lead Us In The Future Will We See The Next Week's Next Episode, And A Less Than That Will We'll Find Out What We'll Learn About It On Tuesday, And Others Like That And More On Wednesday, November 21st, November 27th, November 28th, 2019, December 5th, 2020!
00:02:51.000Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:02:54.000We are going to explore every legal option to keep you entertained and informed on the day that California are exploring every legal option to get Trump off that ballot.
00:03:07.000What you should be exploring is ways to make systems of government truly representative.
00:03:14.000Ways to make people feel connected, awakened and aligned.
00:03:18.000Then you wouldn't have Figures rising up all over that are a threat, apparently a threat, to these technocratic, technological dictatorships across the globe.
00:03:28.000If you're watching us on YouTube right now, we love you, you awakened wonder.
00:03:32.000We'll be there for about 15-20 minutes telling you about, well, Is civil war being used as a threat or distraction now?
00:04:16.000And at the moment, I'm, um, what do I want to say?
00:04:19.000Like, I can't really focus when I'm doing this.
00:04:21.000When I'm on the stream with you guys, with my Awakened Wonders there on Locals, it's good to see the stream is up and functioning on Locals.
00:04:29.000When I'm with you guys on Rumble, and many of you saying it's sort of both.
00:04:32.000You think it's a real threat and it's being utilised.
00:04:50.000This idea of exploiting crisis and exploiting every situation, it's become more and more prevalent, hasn't it?
00:04:56.000In the public sphere and in political life.
00:04:59.000There's a lot of things we're going to discuss.
00:05:00.000I want you to download the Rumble app if you don't have it yet, because then you'll get informed every time we're on air.
00:05:04.000And we're staying on air across the holiday period.
00:05:06.000We're doing a bunch of special shows with Callie Means, Vandana Shiva, We've got Greg Gutfeld starting the new year with us.
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00:05:32.000If you're watching us on YouTube right now, this is what we want to explain to you.
00:05:37.000Is this even this matter of Trump being removed from the Colorado ballot, potentially being removed from the California ballot if they can find some legal means to do it, a kind of incendiary ignition for future civil war?
00:06:26.000Ron DeSantis has been painted into a corner and we've had Ron on this show and like many of you we think he's done a fantastic job in Florida certainly around the pandemic no one can question that but How does this look?
00:06:39.000Let me know in the chat if you think that Ron DeSantis handles this well when the Vivek challenge is put to him by the legacy media.
00:06:50.000And real quick, fellow GOP 2024 presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy saying he will remove himself from the Colorado ballot unless Trump's eligibility is restored.
00:07:03.000No, I think that's just playing into the left.
00:07:05.000I think the case will get overturned by the Supreme Court, but I've qualified for all the ballots, I'm competing in all the states, and I'm going to accumulate the delegates necessary.
00:07:14.000That's the whole name of the game in this situation.
00:07:16.000But I do anticipate that that decision was political and will get reversed.
00:07:22.000Governor Ron DeSantis, thank you so much for joining me this afternoon.
00:07:28.000Was that cake and eat it Prevaricate in there saying that it will get overturned by the Supreme Court but that he will remain on the ballot?
00:07:34.000Vivek, was he being straight up there?
00:07:36.000Because I think that's been very successful.
00:07:38.000We saw Vivek on that RV making a politically expedient and very smart speech.
00:07:45.000He's an excellent communicator and you know we believe he's the first truly modern era, post-millennial, social media, independent media savvy politician.
00:07:55.000Let me know if you Agree with that, and let me know if you think that Rhonda Sanders has just talked himself out of any potential nomination.
00:08:04.000Let's have a look at, oh yeah, much of this centers on the legitimacy of the claim that Trump is an insurrectionist.
00:08:13.000For that to be true, you have to believe that January the 6th was an insurrection.
00:08:18.000A genuine attempt at taking over government.
00:08:22.000Now remember, That there has never been an unarmed insurrection in history.
00:08:27.000In history, no one's ever gone, we're taking over this country!
00:10:27.000So that's like, that's a pretty legitimate argument.
00:10:29.000Should voters decide who's on the ballot and who to vote for ultimately, or the courts?
00:10:36.000Extraordinarily, Vivek in his RV speech said, this is not old Europe, although there's nothing wrong with old Europe, where decisions are made in corridors and cloisters, in vestibules by bishops.
00:10:51.000Russell, will you join us for the upcoming Civil War?
00:10:53.000I will join you for the Revolutionary War, when you cast aside all systems of government, when you demand decentralization, when you demand sovereignty at the level of the individual, sovereignty at the level of the community, sovereignty over your food, Sovereignty over your land, sovereignty over your minds, sovereignty over online spaces, rather than a carousel of corruption, a revolving door between Wall Street and Washington, between big tech and government.
00:11:19.000We've got to get off this ride, it's making us sick.
00:11:22.000Now, Morning Joe there, as he calls himself, just set up the question, shouldn't voters decide?
00:12:01.000And this is what they're standing with is the spirit of those Confederates rather than the Americans who came together after a long and brutal civil war that was fought to keep the Union together and saw clearly saw a threat.
00:12:22.000in acts confederates running for office so much so that they amended the constitution So because the constitutional clause that's legitimized Trump being removed from the ballot was related to the Civil War, this image is being further evoked.
00:12:41.000What that does, I suppose, let me know if you agree with this in the chat, guys, is legitimizes the idea that in this hysterical new paradigm, the legacy media continually doubles down on the idea that 50% of America Our extremists.
00:12:56.00050% of America are out of their minds that 50% of America should be deprogrammed in their basket of deplorability to be unbugged from the MAGA extremism.
00:13:06.000Now you know me, I believe in decentralisation, individual sovereignty, community sovereignty.
00:13:11.000But I can also see that this legacy media machine is hysterical and determined to crush dissent.
00:13:20.000Engaging in lawfare wherever possible.
00:13:23.000And it seems increasingly likely that the persecution of Trump is politically motivated rather than someone going, this is an insurrection!
00:14:00.000It's so fascinating when you see the machine mobilising that way.
00:14:05.000We've got a brilliant story we'll be showing you in a minute, where magic pot, it just starts getting used as a piece of language everywhere.
00:14:13.000Like, we can't just keep funding the Ukraine war, there's not a magic pot.
00:14:16.000Yeah, haven't we been saying for a little while?
00:14:18.000That you're pumping a lot of taxpayer dollars into an unwinnable war, all of a sudden the phrase magic pot cropping up everywhere.
00:14:25.000You know when you see the legacy media or political figures using the same phrases that there's an element of coordination going on, right?
00:15:55.000It's an interesting piece of analysis.
00:15:56.000Patriotically make your voices heard that phrase can't find it voices heard seems like protest as well doesn't it didn't say This election was definitely stolen.
00:16:06.000Let's reverse that wrongdoing by having an unarmed insurrection.
00:16:23.000In the January 6th report, you won't see it in the January 6th committee hearings that we were all subjected to.
00:16:30.000You don't see that phrase in this crazy decision.
00:16:34.000that I am going through right now and Mark Levin style I'm actually going to take a crack at it I'm not a lawyer but I am a citizen and I can read and I can read okay I like this guy he's taking his power back that's getting proper network I'm mad as hell we started that's where this show started at the point where network finished Oh man.
00:16:53.000So if all of this legislation, all of this persecution, all of this indictment like it's 1999 is about the preservation of democratic principles, the sanctity of democracy, the reason that any riot or insurrection in the capital is a transgression is because that's supposed to be in a secular space, a sacred cathedral.
00:17:20.000But if all that goes on in there is corruption, then no harm, no foul.
00:17:24.000If you don't believe that there's anything other than institutional corruption behind the facades and edifices of that building, then what are you complaining about?
00:17:32.000Now, we've already seen that there will be no Florida primary in the Democrat election.
00:18:14.000She was also in the Florida, so she's been Double turned over, dear Marianne Williamson, and that's a member of their own party.
00:18:20.000Remember, RFK wanted to run for leader of the Democrat Party, now running as an independent because it's the only way that he will be heard.
00:18:28.000Let's have a look now, dear Joe Biden, Talking about a system of economics he claims to have invented that's trickled down from his dad's table, which doesn't seem to be the best way to inherit a political system, although dribbly systems of tumble-down fluid appears to be the way it's passed on to his children.
00:18:48.000We're doing it by building an economy from the middle out and the bottom up, not the top down.
00:18:54.000Not a whole lot trickled down on my dad's kitchen table with a top-down economy.
00:20:41.000That's what we call Biden-omics, and I am the Biden Translator, the Bidenator.
00:20:46.000I don't know, we'll think of something for this app, but he keeps crashing it.
00:20:49.000Let's have a look at Joe Biden, even after that rather clumsy occasion where he said that if you don't vote for Joe Biden, then you aren't black, which must be baffling for that founder of Black Lives Matter who said that he's going to vote for Trump, because I do feel like he was black, actually.
00:21:29.000And, uh, as they say, the saying goes... They say the saying goes!
00:21:33.000That's, that's quite good, he's just saying, I'm gonna say the saying, now, here comes the saying.
00:21:38.000Where I come, you bring me to... Where I come, he means where I come from, he doesn't mean where I come, because that would be a disturbing image of a, a thin grey gruel, travelling a short distance.
00:22:32.000Hey listen, if you're watching us on YouTube, which is going to be available there for a while, as we use this platform to espouse for free speech, free speech to create unity for individual sovereignty, not partisan, beyond bipartisan, new models of true empowerment, unified but Decentralised.
00:22:53.000We don't believe any demagogue or institutional career politician is going to solve the problems of ordinary Americans or the people across the world.
00:23:00.000And we have to find a way to confront globalism, because it surely is a global problem now, while remaining in charge of our own sovereign communities.
00:23:16.000It just takes food scraps, food and energy, independence for all.
00:23:19.000You are interested in independent individual sovereignty.
00:23:21.000I had a great conversation with Vandana Shiva just the other day where she said that the nefariousness, the boundless nefariousness of Bill Gates... When's that naughty list out?
00:25:12.000This is water, by the way, water from the highlands of Scotland, where your man Trump hails from, where one of his greatest golf courses is.
00:25:51.000But you know with this guy, just think about it.
00:25:58.000What's not tippy-top is Joe Biden not knowing what the word hostage means and having an odd, prevaricating, vicissitudinous, vacillating attitude to this very simple inquiry.
00:31:18.000This is amazing because they voted for free speech to include people that are spamming in the chat that might even be a bot and he's still just saying the same stuff.
00:32:04.000And as we say on this channel, in our constant quest for decentralization, in our constant quest for speech, for freedom, And free speech.
00:32:13.000We're trying to house as many views as possible in an open-minded way, because we respect your views.
00:32:18.000Piers Morgan, though, brother British pundit, seems now to be saying, having, I would say, platformed people from across this conflict, that it's time for Israel to stop.
00:32:30.000Let me know what you think this means for that conflict.
00:32:32.000Hello and welcome to Piers Morgan Uncensored.
00:32:34.000Throughout the long and deadly history of Israel's wars with Palestine, it's usually fallen to Israel's friends to tell them when it's time to stop.
00:32:42.000That time may be fast approaching again, even as Israel insists it needs more time to eradicate Hamas.
00:32:49.000This weekend, the IDF admitted to killing three of its own hostages in Gaza.
00:32:53.000The men were waving a white flag of surrender.
00:32:55.000They'd used scraps of food to scrawl SOS, desperately pleading for help.
00:33:00.000Regardless of whether they were Israeli or Palestinian, there was no justification under international law for killing them, to clear breach of the rules of engagement.
00:33:56.000After the Colorado Supreme Court's unprecedented decision to remove Trump from the state's 2024 ballot, one of the dissenting justices warns that Chaos will follow.
00:34:05.000But could that chaos even involve war?
00:34:09.000Now, we're going to stay with you for a little while.
00:34:10.000We've got a lot of questions to answer.
00:34:53.000This is an important moment in American political history.
00:34:57.000Trump has been taken off the ballot and it reveals fissures in American political and cultural life that are splitting in ways that we may not have predicted were it not for our awareness of the changing shape of the public sphere.
00:35:08.000Put simply, there are members of the Republican party that support this decision, members of the Democrat party that support this decision, and along media lines, it's as you might imagine as well.
00:35:17.000The legacy media is in broad support of the decision, whereas independent media are more circumspect and challenging, inquiring as to where a decision of this nature might lead, and the legitimacy of the decision.
00:35:28.000In short, You can no longer analyze American public life along the lines of Republican Party, Democrat Party, or even left and right.
00:35:35.000What you have now is centralized authority and peripheral figures, some of whom you may love, some of whom you may doubt.
00:35:41.000Where is these peripheral figures that have come out in support of Trump or at least against
00:35:46.000the decision to take him off the ballot.
00:35:48.000Let's look at the legitimacy of this decision and where it might take America.
00:35:52.000Is it inevitable now that America breaks apart?
00:35:55.000Is it possible to sustain one nation where every single election you have to say, well
00:36:00.000I hate the other 50% of the country, the other 49% of the country, they're idiots, this election
00:36:29.000And we begin tonight with major breaking news.
00:36:32.000A bombshell ruling from the Colorado Supreme Court in just the last hour states that Donald Trump is disqualified from holding the office of president and from appearing on the Republican primary ballot in that state.
00:36:47.000In a more than 200 page ruling, the court found that Trump is ineligible for the White House under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the U.S.
00:37:19.000A weird thing with that buffalo shaman guy?
00:37:21.000Well, we're calling it an insurrection.
00:37:23.000Then you don't have to have Donald Trump as your opponent in the 2024 election, you don't have to address the mass malaise across America, the failure of establishment politics, the corruption of the military-industrial complex and big pharma that plainly have more influence to exert on these political processes than ordinary Americans, the failing of American cultural life more generally.
00:38:26.000And that Trump, quote, engaged in that insurrection through his personal actions.
00:38:31.000This frankly stunning and unprecedented decision could have major implications in the 2024 race, in which Trump is currently the Republican frontrunner.
00:38:42.000The decision will likely be appealed to the U.S.
00:38:44.000Supreme Court, which could decide the matter on a national level.
00:38:48.000And now for some unbiased input, Rachel Maddow.
00:38:50.000This is not a crazy thing for a democracy to do.
00:38:53.000This is something that was a hallmark of post-war Germany after World War II.
00:38:57.000This is something that happened at Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil quite recently.
00:39:01.000This is something that our own Congress did in 1868 after Our own civil war.
00:39:06.000It's interesting that the civil war is being brought up.
00:39:08.000Surely that was a really different time in your country where there was literal armed conflict between two halves of the nation.
00:39:17.000It's interesting what's being evoked right now.
00:41:07.000They're weaponizing law enforcement for high-level election interference because we're beating them so badly in the polls.
00:41:14.000This is where new divisions are occurring that don't fall within typical party lines.
00:41:19.000You know we're always cynical on this channel when you see a bipartisan A partisan bill was passed the other day to allow Congress people to own stocks and shares in companies that they're supposed to be regulating.
00:41:29.000Or a new bill so there's war everywhere all the time.
00:41:32.000I always sort of think that, oh look at that, you knew.
00:41:34.000We're all coming together in the sweet name of violence.
00:41:36.000Well what we're seeing now is opposition to this measure from RFK.
00:41:42.000Every American should be troubled by the Colorado Supreme Court decision to remove President Trump from the And of course, he was formerly a democrat, now running as an independent.
00:41:50.000But broadly speaking, he's an anti-establishment political figure.
00:41:53.000And another anti-establishment political figure, this time from what we would once have called the right, is Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:41:58.000But similarly, he uses a lot of anti-establishment rhetoric.
00:42:01.000He's a person who's well attuned with independent media.
00:42:03.000He's learned what worked for Donald Trump.
00:42:05.000He knows what people dislike in American public life.
00:42:08.000He's realized that there's a constitution now that will never trust the establishment again.
00:42:11.000It almost doesn't matter Don't you think now that there's nothing Donald Trump could say that would make people that like Rachel Maddow's show go, do you know what?
00:42:21.000There's nothing that Rachel Maddow or the sort of legacy media establishment could say that will make you go, nah, I've got off Donald Trump.
00:42:26.000Like, it's just now like, I don't trust you.
00:42:28.000Neither side trusts each other anymore.
00:42:32.000Whose mind, whose heart does it exist in?
00:42:35.000That's why it's interesting there's that new Civil War movie and people are starting to think about Civil War as a kind of possibility.
00:42:40.000They have just tried to bar President Trump from the Colorado ballot using an unconstitutional maneuver that is a bastardization of the 14th Amendment to our U.S.
00:42:50.000This was a provision, Section 3, that was designed to bar Confederate members, people who switched to the Confederacy, from actually being able to serve.
00:42:58.000That's very different than what's at issue here, to say the least.
00:43:02.000This is a hollowed-out husk of what the country was built on.
00:43:05.000The basic principle that we, the people, select our leadership.
00:43:08.000It's interesting to watch the strategy, isn't it?
00:43:10.000Like, Rachel Maddow and the Legacy Media have a strategy.
00:43:13.000They fall on this because they like it.
00:43:36.000And I think Vivek Ramaswamy, more than anyone else in the primaries for the Republican Party, has understood how do you manage the specter of Trump?
00:43:44.000Either Trump's going to run, and in which case he'll win, Or Trump's going to be removed, in which case the person that's most associated with Trump is probably going to win.
00:44:04.000Now, American political life is not left-right or Democrat-Republican, it's establishment-anti-establishment.
00:44:10.000That's why we exist in this space, because we are anti-establishment also, because we've worked out during the pandemic period, because of the forever wars and the forever crises, the omni-crisis as we call it here, that the establishment is a bigger threat than any peripheral group.
00:44:26.000Now, some people will disagree with that position, but because I, broadly speaking, espouse Decentralization.
00:44:32.000That you should have as much sovereignty.
00:45:42.000And more importantly, where will it lead America?
00:45:44.000And then you have to ask questions about the concept of a nation itself.
00:45:48.000Who benefits from having 300 million people under one rule in the basic hierarchical structure that's exploitative to everyone in a variety of ways, except for those at the very top strata?
00:45:57.000Or else these Republicans are simply complicit in this unconstitutional attack on the way we conduct our constitutional republic.
00:46:06.000The Colorado Supreme Court made history Tuesday with an unprecedented ruling that former President Donald Trump is constitutionally ineligible to run in 2024 because the 14th Amendment's ban on insurrectionists holding public office covers his conduct on January 6th, 2021.
00:46:49.000It's the first time in history the Constitution's insurrection clause has been used to disqualify a presidential candidate.
00:46:55.000Don't you get the sense that they just scramble around for some way to scupper Donald Trump in the same way that Julian Assange Uh, espionage?
00:47:12.000They invent stuff, don't they, to retain power.
00:47:15.000There's no legitimacy to their government, so how can you use things like moral legitimacy or regulatory or constitutional legitimacy as a weapon when most people now just don't trust it?
00:47:25.000It was really interesting seeing Barack Obama's speech at Stanford.
00:47:28.000Him say, oh, it's the waters are muddied.
00:47:29.000You just have to flood a country's public square.
00:48:04.000And Section 3 of the 14th Amendment says oath-breaking insurrectionists can't serve as senators, representatives, presidential electors, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States or under any state.
00:48:16.000But it doesn't mention the presidency.
00:48:18.000So we don't know what they mean by engaging, we don't know what they mean by insurrection, we don't know if January 6th was an insurrection and it doesn't actually explicitly say presidency in the piece of legislation or constitutional language that they're using.
00:48:57.000The dissents from the sharply divided 4-3 court offer some legal foundations for Trump to overturn the historic ruling when he inevitably appeals to the US Supreme Court.
00:49:05.000One justice concluded that a candidate shouldn't be disqualified under the 14th Amendment if they haven't been convicted of insurrection, which is a federal crime.
00:49:14.000Trump is facing other felony charges, but not insurrection, in his federal election subversion case.
00:49:19.000Another justice raised due process concerns and said only Congress has the power to enforce the ban.
00:49:26.000So he hasn't been convicted with insurrection.
00:49:29.000He hasn't been charged with insurrection.
00:49:31.000We don't know that January 6th was an insurrection or that he caused an insurrection.
00:49:35.000We don't know what an insurrection means in the piece of legislation that they're using or whether it applies to people that are running for the presidency.
00:49:45.000Three of the seven justices on the Colorado Supreme Court dissented, arguing the former president didn't have a fair trial.
00:49:50.000Carlos Sama warned of chaos in the aftermath of the ruling.
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00:51:50.000Legal scholar Jonathan Turley slammed the Colorado Supreme Court for its ruling, saying this court just handed partisans on both sides the ultimate tool to try to shortcut elections and it's very, very dangerous.
00:52:27.000Turley, a professor of law, added, Like, that's someone that's, I suppose, interested in democracy and process and procedure, and where did all those people go?
00:52:34.000of it not good. In my view it was not an insurrection, it was a riot he said. Like that's someone
00:52:40.000that's I suppose interested in democracy and process and procedure and where did all those
00:52:43.000people go? Where did all the sort of normal people go?
00:52:47.000When did it go into this weird metastasized version of democracy or constitutional republic or whatever you guys want to call it?
00:52:54.000Like when did it turn into this weird mad game where no one's like sort of boringly talking about procedure?
00:53:00.000No no that's not an insurrection that was at worst a riot.
00:53:03.000Those voices seem to have disappeared like people are too mad and amplified it really is oddly apocalyptic and this kind of escalation of tension is likely to have a negative outcome it's not going to be positive is it?
00:53:15.000He said, while he understands those in violation of the law that day should face consequences, the ruling against Trump goes a step too far.
00:53:21.000That doesn't mean that the people responsible for that day shouldn't be held accountable, but to call this an insurrection for the purposes of disqualification would create a slippery slope for every state in the union.
00:53:31.000In a sense, you should be able to, as I've said before, take the nouns out and still have the same impression.
00:53:37.000This Riot was as a result of this issue, this many people were hurt, this much damage was done and then later you can say January the 6th or this social issue and you would have the same view.
00:53:48.000That's principles and that's legislation.
00:53:50.000When everything is interpretive and the mobilisation and weaponisation of the law because of the sort of vendetta, Then it creates the kind of trust that Barack Obama's saying is only caused by independent media.
00:54:01.000That's what they'll say, because of Trump's mad vocal supporters, people will doubt this legitimate piece of legislature.
00:54:08.000But even me, looking at this, I don't have a dog in the fight.
00:55:47.000So unless you start going, well these people might be, you know, fundamentalist Muslim, and these people might be radical, progressive, gay folk, or whatever it is.
00:55:54.000Unless you start believing in actual freedom, principles, where you actually don't care.
00:55:57.000You just say, these people should be able to run their own community.
00:55:59.000They should have individual sovereignty.
00:56:01.000They should have community sovereignty.
00:56:05.000And it's those kind of ideas, as well as the ideas espoused here by Jonathan Turley, like, hold on a minute, this doesn't seem democratic, it's overreach.
00:56:10.000Unless that kind of stuff starts reaching us again, what we're going to get is a kind of, a bit like in Star Wars, where that machine just sort of crushes them in the sludge.
00:56:19.000Now that's what we're all experiencing.
00:56:26.000You can dislike Trump, you can believe he's responsible for January the 6th, but this
00:56:30.000This is hands down the most anti-democratic opinion I've seen in my life.
00:56:34.000What we've got to get to is the point where you go, I don't like Donald Trump, I disagree with Donald Trump on almost everything, but this is mental.
00:56:40.000Until we get to that point, you've got to have a war.
00:56:42.000And I reckon the reason we're at this point, really, is because we all recognise that politics has been corrupted by corporate globalism, and it's a sham, and so people are just reaching for stuff that has emotional power.
00:56:55.000Whether that's the emotional power of, I love this guy, he's funny, he's outspoken, or, I hate this guy, he's a misogynist, I hate... Like, he's emotionally charging people, because that's all that's left.
00:57:03.000Because we know it's a uni-party dictatorship already.
00:57:08.000More than two-fifths of Americans believe civil war is at least somewhat likely in the next 10 years, according to a 2022 survey, a figure that increases to more than half among self-identified strong Republicans.
00:57:22.000Participants were asked, looking ahead to the next 10 years, how likely is it, do you think, that there'll be a civil war in this country?
00:57:28.000Among all US citizens, 43% said civil war was at least somewhat likely.
00:57:33.000Among strong Democrats and Independents, that figure was 40%, but among strong Republicans, 54% said civil war was at least somewhat likely.
00:57:41.000What I feel that is happening, because of the unconscious activity that's happening in media and politics right now, is they're inadvertently providing a charge that could lead from the kind of dystopic malaise that most people live within, glumly, just like, oh god, I'll watch the telly, I'll eat some sugar, I'll drink some booze, I'll do some drugs, into a kind of Oh well, it's on!
00:58:00.000You know, that's the risk I think that's currently being toyed with.
00:58:03.000Surveys show Americans find it increasingly important to live around people who share their political values.
00:58:08.000Animosity towards those in the opposing party is higher than at any time in living memory.
00:58:13.00042% of registered voters believe Americans in the other party are downright evil.
00:58:17.000We've created a state and a situation where through media irresponsibility, I would suggest, and I would say legacy media rather than independent media, you've created two utterly polarised camps.
00:58:27.000This is always a problem that's laying at the feet of independent media and social media more broadly.
00:58:32.000Look at how ordinary TV shows now, like old school things that have been going on since the 1960s, will propagandise for the establishment, will condemn 50% of the population.
00:58:45.000To present someone that was popular, that touched a nerve, that has massive support as a lunatic and an extremist was a risk.
00:58:50.000And it was a risk that was undertaken.
00:58:52.000Deliberately, because I think establishment politicians of both sides knew they couldn't compete with someone that could reach people, that could reach into the anger and the dissatisfaction and go, hey, do you want things to change?
00:59:07.000We'll stop running foundations that take money.
00:59:08.000We'll stop taking half a million dollars for After dinner speakers.
00:59:11.000We'll stop leaving presidential offices and doing loads of movies and prestigious projects and acting like we're better than you the whole time and having super fancy parties and claiming that we care about social justice.
00:59:21.000They lost the moral high ground, but they wanted to retain it.
00:59:23.000And the only way to do that was to demonize, repress and claim that half the population were essentially subhuman.
00:59:30.000And then to point out when there was populist rhetoric on the other side.
00:59:36.000I think that if you create the conditions for this kind of oppositionism, you have to ultimately pay a price and they will never pay that price because they can't change because they are co-opted and owned by interests that are beyond anything that they might claim to believe in.
00:59:56.000Almost 40% would be upset at the prospect of their child marrying someone from the opposite party.
01:00:02.000Even before the 2020 election, when asked if violence would be justified if the other party won the election, 18.3% of Democrats and 13.8% of Republicans responded in the affirmative.
01:00:11.000That's astonishing that the Democrats, thankfully, they don't have the guns.
01:00:14.000Increasingly, each America is running under different laws.
01:00:17.000America will still be America, but it's fast becoming two versions of America.
01:00:21.000The open question is like the one faced by every couple that separates.
01:00:25.000How will the two find ways to be civil toward each other?
01:00:28.000So, whatever you think about Donald Trump being taken off the ballot in Colorado, it does seem that it's quite manipulative and that sophistry has been involved.
01:00:36.000Like, Ah, if we say this and it was this and that was that, if we claim that it was an insurrection, if we claim that he caused the insurrection, if we imagine that he's been convicted of insurrection, using these laws we can delegitimize Trump's candidacy.
01:00:48.000That, for me, is a further doubling down on the lack of understanding that caused these conditions in the first place.
01:00:55.000People are disillusioned with politics in the United States for reasons that are plain and obvious.
01:01:00.000By claiming that this lightning rod of populism They're refusing to acknowledge the causes of the conditions.
01:01:07.000It astonishes me that this is happening.
01:01:09.000Interestingly and intriguingly, what's now being revealed is that America is not a country of Democrats and Republicans.
01:01:15.000America is a country of pro-establishment and anti-establishment beliefs.
01:01:20.000And what I believe will happen over the next few years is anti-establishment interests start to coalesce.
01:01:25.000People start to realise, could we unify in a decentralised independent movement against this uniparty corruption and all have more sovereignty in our own lives?
01:01:34.000Individual sovereignty, community sovereignty, national sovereignty.
01:01:37.000Wouldn't all of us ultimately do a deal to be left alone to live how we want to live with those we love in our own community, free from the intervention of the state and the tyranny of corporate globalism?
01:03:19.000Why are we messing around with all of these debate or don't debate, ballot box, no ballot box, indictment, no indictment, impeachment, no impeachment, when we've got a perfectly good Thunderdome not being used?
01:03:32.000I would say, would you want them in top-to-toe lycra or simple, humble shorts?
01:03:39.000Tippy-tap, little tippy-tap trunks is what you want them in.
01:03:43.000It would be a tippy-top little bout, I'd say.
01:03:45.000Hey, listen, one of the things, they're still coming.
01:04:13.000I'd like to point out the skill in the timing, the expertise with which this alligator is handled as a man who's sometimes struggled dealing with mouses.
01:05:13.000He's gotten it over the head of the croc.
01:05:15.000amazing. It's got it in, I mean it's fast thrashing.
01:05:25.000I'd panic, I think, if I could feel something like that thrashing.
01:05:27.000Have you ever had to catch, if a mouse gets into your house, or more than one mouse, I think that's mouses, like, you have to, like, I don't like it when a creature squirms, you know?
01:05:35.000Or even a bird, like, if you hold a bird in your hands like that and you feel its little wings go... I don't even like picking up a chicken, you know?
01:05:42.000Like, and it sort of feels like it's going... To get a gator in a wheelie bin, as it was called in our country, impressive.
01:07:09.000Do you think that guy's done that before?
01:07:16.000That can't be the first time he's done it and he's made that many decisions.
01:07:20.000We had to change a tyre on my car the other day and when I say we, I mean some people changed the tyre while I stood nearby and I counted up the number of decisions that I would have done differently.
01:07:28.000Firstly, I don't know if I'd have got that trash can underneath the gator.
01:07:32.000Then I don't know if I'd have flipped the bin.
01:07:34.000If I got that far, there's no way I'd have done that bit where he got the right way up and then to invert when you're taking it
01:07:40.000down the grass hill magnificent When in the check on that's Florida
01:07:48.000So very relaxed in a like I feel like at this point I could show off and build a whole thing
01:08:01.000Go bro Thomas is in the chat take the globalist elite trash out
01:09:54.000Can we not live side by side with the great bears and with the alligators?
01:09:59.000Can we not build a better world together?
01:10:01.000Maybe we can if we consult some of the finest minds, if we build a symposium, if we build communities where the wisest, the brightest, and the most beautiful among us, and that includes all of us, Come together in the spirit of true freedom to create new sovereign communities united against the establishment but decentralized.
01:10:19.000The maximum amount of control in your own life.
01:10:22.000The minimum amount of corporate wars and corporate globalism.
01:10:25.000The minimum amount of NGOs intervening in your freedom from across the globe.
01:10:30.000Fake currencies, debanking, the shutting down of your power, exploiting crises.
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01:10:47.000We'll be talking about the mythic impact of the Christian ideals as well as the historical Christ, Hollywood running out of ideas and the deeper meaning of myth.
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