Russell Brand is a comedian, writer, podcaster and podcaster. He is also the host of the podcast 'Stay Free With Russell Brand' and host of 'Rumble Live' on YouTube. In this episode, he talks about his upcoming live show in the UK called 'Wouldn't You?' and why he thinks Trump's assassination is a real possibility. He's also joined by journalist Barry Weiss to discuss the Twilight Zone and his new album 'That's the Wrong Song' which is out now. Stay Free with Russell Brand is on all of the social medias, if you search for Stay Free, you'll find us. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/sponsors and use the promo code stayfree at checkout to receive 10% off your first purchase. To buy your own copy of the new book, 'Keep Calm and Carry On' by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., click here. To support the show, please go to bit.ly/support-russellcraneandrewsjr and get 10% discount code STAYFREE at checkout at checkout. To get tickets to one of his live shows in London, visit here. To find out more information about his live show, click HERE. To buy tickets to his upcoming show in London and the rest of his upcoming shows across the UK and abroad, go here. Thank you so much for supporting this podcast, stay free and keep up to date with the show! Stay Free! - stay free, stay safe, and keep safe, love you're in the light of truth and good vibes, and stay woke! xoxo - EJ & EJUICY . Thank you for listening to stay free. - Your support is so much appreciated, EJ&E - P.S. - Ej & Ej and EJ is and I hope you enjoy this podcast is so beautiful, thank you for being kind and caring about this podcast. . . . - OJ & I love you. - Thank you, Ej - SONGS - JUIC - BONUS EPISODES - R.B. & R.A. & P.M. & AYO - A.J. & JB.R. & C.E. & S.
00:00:01.000Over the month of September I'm doing a handful of live shows that are a combination of spirituality, breath work, individual awakening, community building and challenging authority.
00:00:11.000How do you bring down the system while bringing up children?
00:00:15.000Can't sleep! Can't f***ing sleep! Sleep while I have extendable orgasm now!
00:00:20.000How do you try to bring down Bear Grylls while you're on Running Wild with Bear Grylls?
00:00:24.000And Bear Grylls is much better at that stuff than you.
00:00:27.000How do we find new ways of challenging authority while trying to live normal lives?
00:00:33.000So I'll be doing stand-up, breathwork, meditation, as well as conducting polls and votes because I believe democracy works.
00:00:40.000Are you happy with your current government?
00:01:08.000Thanks for joining us on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:01:11.000For the first 15 minutes, we will be available with all of you on YouTube.
00:01:16.000Those of you that come here for truth, those of you that come here for hope, those of you who come here because you want to be part of a movement, you don't want to participate in the entropy and despair of a culture that's devouring itself, a legacy media that's lost its way, that wants to do nothing but annihilate and destroy, that's lost its vision, that's lost the light of the Lord that looks to you, that looks to me,
00:01:36.000that looks to us collectively to bring about a new order, a new awakening.
00:01:41.000And when I say new order I don't mean some new global order of centralized authoritarian
00:01:45.000power, I mean decentralized power. I mean a little old thing called
00:01:48.000democracy where you have the power to control your own life, where you are free,
00:01:52.000your freedom isn't criminalized. That's one of the stories we're gonna be
00:01:55.000talking about. Surveillance is on the up. They're tracking your DNA, they are criminalizing
00:02:00.000all of us, even Gareth Roy. No. One of the least criminal people I've ever
00:02:05.000had the good fortune to We're going to be talking about Trump's potential assassination, hyperbole, or possibility.
00:02:11.000Let me know in the comments, guys, do you think it's a real possibility?
00:02:14.000If you're watching this on Rumble right now, why don't you press the red button and join us in the locals chat, like Blessed Old Bird, and Thomas Beard, and Taz Bing, and Jim Urfsey.
00:03:46.000What we could do is lock everyone in their house, make sure people wear masks, they stand these distances apart, they take all of these injections.
00:03:51.000What about if, you know, we just let people do what they like?
00:03:57.000What I say is, we'll look at that, but obviously with the WHO having the power that they have over the guidelines on YouTube, and I love you 6.5 million Awakening Wonders, I love you and you feel that love.
00:04:08.000You know this is not the dumb, hollow, empty communications that you get from the mainstream.
00:04:12.000You know we're moving to a greater frequency.
00:04:14.000You know that it is our job to fuse spirituality with politics and new inclusive spirituality that looks for alliances rather than new forms of destruction.
00:04:24.000Let's have a look at a lovely little story on Fox News now.
00:04:26.000notices and understands their agenda and moves immediately beyond it. We're going to have to do
00:04:31.000that stuff though in the other place, in the land of rumble, where we are free to be whoever we are,
00:04:36.000united in our free speech to come together, not to drive people apart. Let's have a look at a
00:04:42.000lovely little story on Fox News now. Now steel yourselves because this is about a person having
00:04:48.000an accident on an aeroplane as I understand. Now we've all made mistakes on aeroplanes.
00:06:41.000All up the plane, that means they've tried to go to the toilet, it's gone wrong, and imagine the dreadful panic of being in a fuselage, the indignity of that.
00:08:09.000What I feel like is, doesn't it show the hubris of our kind that since the Wright Brothers we have conquered the air, but all it takes is one person with a dodgy belly and the two Bob Bits and the squirts and suddenly aeroplanes are being brought down.
00:08:24.000It sort of shows you the fragility of civilisation and the hubris of our kind.
00:08:28.000Civilisation lays upon the planet and by the mighty winds of God, or a passenger, it could be coughed off into brown oblivion.
00:09:08.000It's almost like they enjoyed it at this point, like it was a dirty protest.
00:09:12.000Now I don't know where that coronavirus came from, but you should have been able to contain it in the Wuhan lab or wet market, could be either, area.
00:09:19.000You don't want people skiddily skidding out of the labs and out of the wet markets, running down the bat caves, running down the town, getting in the airplanes.
00:09:27.000What you've got yourself there is a super spreader event.
00:09:29.000That is a super-spreader event right there.
00:09:38.000If you've come here for truth, you will not be disappointed because we are being joined now by a fantastic, epochal and significant journalist, Barry Weiss, founder of The Free Press, and the Honestly Podcast is joining us.
00:09:51.000Now, Barry, you're here because you're doing this... Hello, mate.
00:10:26.000The proposition is, has the sexual revolution failed?
00:10:29.000We have Sarah Hader and Grimes facing off against Louise Perry, coming over from the U.K., and Anna Katchian, one of the co-hosts of Red Scare.
00:10:38.000The event is going to be opened by none other than feminist icon and hashtag ally, Tim Dillon.
00:11:02.000If you are in LA at that time, go along, join it, educate yourself.
00:11:06.000And like, I think what this is, This is important.
00:11:08.000Like, you know, we recorded our conversation with Sam Harris the other day, and we saw many, many issues quite distinctly and often opposingly.
00:11:16.000And it was, I would say, valuable, I hope, for both of us to have that conversation.
00:11:20.000I certainly enjoy speaking to people that I disagree with, but also people like you, who I broadly do agree with, Barry.
00:11:27.000Yeah, I mean, one of the reasons we started the Free Press was because we had a question, and that question was, do Americans still want real journalism?
00:11:36.000Do Americans and people beyond America, do people in the West, is the English-speaking world still want lively, honest, fair, sober, provocative debate?
00:11:47.000Or do they just want the sort of Pre-masticated ideological mush that those of us who left the mainstream were being asked to produce.
00:11:56.000And the answer has come back to us over the past two years as a resounding yes.
00:12:00.000So we're super excited to put on our first live debate, and we hope it's going to be the first in sort of a national series of debates about urgent conversations, the kind of conversations that people have in private, but often are too scared to have out loud in public.
00:12:54.000I think it's actually emblematic of the entire sort of media landscape we're living in, in which, you know, it feels often to many of us like you have the choice.
00:13:03.000You have the choice to listen to someone who's talking about the president or the former president getting assassinated, or you have the choice to listen to someone who's suggesting that we live in a dictatorship.
00:13:13.000I think one of the reasons for the rise of independent media is because people are sick of those being their only options.
00:13:21.000People are sick of a media that polarizes us further, that makes us more hysterical, more panicked, more fearful, more isolated, more lonely.
00:13:31.000And they're looking for something different.
00:13:33.000And I think one of the reasons for the rise of independent podcasting for the kind of wild west,
00:13:39.000you know, Cambrian explosion we're living through to mix like five metaphors.
00:14:14.000And just to answer your question to me, yes, of course, I think both statements are somewhat hyperbolic, but presidents have been assassinated before.
00:14:21.000I think Tucker is an excellent orator and built his arguments beautiful in the same conversation when he talked about the potential for the Cold War and the proxy current proxy war to become a hot war.
00:14:31.000I think he walked us through that in a way that's very identifiable, easy, conversational, and in a sense shows you almost the molecular structure of his ability and the reason he's become so successful.
00:14:43.000He can walk you through an argument, even if it's an argument you wouldn't receive elsewhere.
00:14:48.000And when I saw Maddow, I thought that what irritates me is the pose of rationalism accompanied by hysterical messaging.
00:14:55.000That's what sort of irritated me about that.
00:14:57.000But Achela's question to you, mate, is do you still back I'm a journalist.
00:15:08.000I don't publicly come out in support of anyone for president.
00:15:14.000I'm extremely interested in what RFK has to say.
00:15:16.000I was really happy to have him on my podcast.
00:15:19.000He's one of nine presidential candidates that have so far been on Honestly.
00:15:22.000We're hoping to get all of them, and I've had interesting conversations with
00:15:26.000people like RFK, like Vivek, like Chris Christie, like Nikki Haley, Tim Scott. All these people
00:15:31.000have been on Honestly. We want to put together a presidential debate, actually, with some of them,
00:15:35.000which we think could be incredibly interesting. But I haven't endorsed him. I haven't endorsed
00:15:39.000anyone for president. Am I happy to see people trying to challenge Joe Biden and Donald Trump,
00:15:46.000neither of whom I think, neither of whom most people I know would be excited to vote
00:15:59.000How is it like someone like Vivek Ramaswamy, who's, I think, 38 years old?
00:16:03.000How are these people sort of coming out political neophytes, never having run for office and garnering the kind of support they're getting?
00:16:10.000You can say it's because of the ideas they're putting forward, or you could also say that it's because of how frustrated Americans are with these terrible choices.
00:16:19.000Choices that I think many of us are shocked that we're actually going to be in this same scenario yet again in 2024.
00:16:26.000So I'm very interested in these people that are popping up and can continue to host, I think, challenging and fair conversations with all of them.
00:16:35.000Barry, the moment that you participated in the Twitterphile revelations, it seemed like that platform was significantly changed, perhaps forever, with Elon's acquisition.
00:16:47.000But now with the name changed to X and the emergence of peculiar phrases like lawful but awful content.
00:16:54.000And similarly, I feel like YouTube pulled a Jordan Peterson RFK video.
00:16:59.000Do you feel that we're seeing a new mutation or a new variant of censorship emerging?
00:17:06.000Look, I think that we're living, one of the big themes of our era,
00:17:12.000like of our epoch is the question of what do we do, given the fact that the town square has been digitized?
00:17:21.000What do we do about the fact that the town square is not a place that you go to,
00:17:25.000a place paid by citizens, by taxpayers, but are private companies run
00:17:40.000The Town Square is certainly Google, which I think has something like 90% market share.
00:17:45.000And what do you do about the fact that these places are controlled by a handful of private citizens who are redefining what violence is, who are redefining what acceptable speech is?
00:17:59.000The question is not should there or should there not be guardrails, right?
00:18:03.000There's always going to be guardrails on any of these platforms.
00:18:07.000But the question is, what is constituting hateful speech?
00:18:11.000And what is sort of normal or controversial speech that's being redefined as hate speech?
00:18:17.000Is, for example, talking about the lab leak at the height of COVID.
00:18:21.000Should that be constituted as hate speech?
00:18:26.000In the case of Jordan Peterson, I believe that the video that was banned is a video of a conversation that he had with the Irish journalist Helen Joyce, questioning whether or not children can consent to lifelong medical changes with gender transition.
00:18:40.000Should that be that be an open conversation we're able to have in public
00:19:06.000I think the thing that we're reacting to is not that we want to be on platforms that are overrun by Nazis and marijuana ads, which is like all I'm getting served these days on Twitter or now X. But should we be able to have open conversations about things like public health?
00:19:27.000And I think it remains to be seen whether or not under Elon Musk's Twitter, or X as I know we're supposed to call it now, the Twitter files have become the X files, whether or not that's going to be the case.
00:19:39.000And it's an open question because in the very same way that a handful of people ran it, well now it's just a different handful of people.
00:19:47.000With different political biases and different potential power trips.
00:19:50.000And I think anyone who has learned anything over the past decade or so, as we've seen the rise of big tech, should always be skeptical when so much power is in the hands of so few people.
00:20:04.000Yes, it seems that what you're proposing, or at least ruminating on, is the potential for a kind of consensual regulation that is democratic.
00:20:15.000In a way, that's what I'm appealing for, examining, praying for, across many of our institutions.
00:20:21.000The possibility for a new type of consensual governance.
00:20:27.000Democracy, I think is a the other word for it, the way that you feel that you have
00:20:30.000some purchase, some ability to communicate rather than top-down government that appears
00:20:35.000to have been co-opted by financial corporate interests and that use the ideology simply as
00:20:40.000leverage to curb and control debate and conversation.
00:20:43.000Well, like the beauty of this country is that, you know, is that when we go to that physical
00:20:50.000town square, we have the Bill of Rights, we have the Constitution, we have the First Amendment.
00:20:55.000When we go into this new digital town square, we have none of those things.
00:21:00.000And the question is, like, how can we have a sort of political and cultural software update to meet the technological update that we've already lived through?
00:21:09.000That is the big challenge, I think, of the next decade.
00:21:11.000And, you know, the high school answer, of course, is they're private companies.
00:21:17.000And the people that are making that argument, of course, are people that would never say that about something like big tobacco, which makes you wonder like what their actual principle is, right?
00:21:27.000The more challenging answer is, you know, are they actually something more like public utilities?
00:21:32.000Should they be regulated like the railroad has been, like the electricity company is, right?
00:21:38.000We don't cut someone off of their ability to get on Amtrak or their ability to turn on their lights because they believe in QAnon, but we might unperson them on the internet because of that.
00:21:51.000We are living through this technological revolution, but we don't yet have the political, the social or the cultural updates to meet that technological change.
00:22:03.000What that change is going to look like, what the regulation should look like, what the relationship between individual people with individual rights should be to these big tech behemoths.
00:22:15.000That, to me, is one of the most urgent questions of our day.
00:22:19.000And I think that, you know, if you're interested in democracy, if you're interested in free speech, if you're interested in individual dignity, really, those are the questions you have to be asking yourself.
00:22:47.000Now, you can't stop these subcutaneous energetic forces rising up, whether it's Delta Diarrhoea or the phenomena of Oliver Antony emerging into cyberspace, a hirsute and auburn wonder Piping and stringing and strumming new rhythms into the world.
00:23:07.000What do you make of the Oliver Antony phenomenon?
00:23:09.000Do you think he's another example of the left looking for traitors and the right looking for converts?
00:23:15.000How are you seeing this subject treated and what are your views on it, mate?
00:23:20.000I'm speechless by your ability to connect diarrhea on the airplane to Oliver Anthony, but here we go.
00:24:19.000Now, the thing that is like tragic and emblematic of our current moment is that immediately when that song comes out, he's taken up as sort of a saint by the political right that thinks he's on their side.
00:24:33.000And he's in turn vilified by the left.
00:24:36.000There were some unbelievable stories in places like NPR and Rolling Stone trying to demonize him.
00:24:41.000And then he sits down with Rupa Sabarmania, who works for the Free Press, the night of the first RNC debate.
00:24:47.000She flew from Ottawa to Virginia to go to his concert and see if he would talk to her, and he graciously did.
00:24:51.000She got the first and I think the best interview.
00:25:31.000What this is about is a cultural class, the elite class.
00:25:36.000That is deeply out of touch with people like me, people like Oliver Anthony, who worked the overnight shift in a paper mill for $14 an hour.
00:25:45.000It's about the fact that there's been no accountability.
00:25:48.000It's about the fact that there's been no sort of comeuppance for these people that have gotten so many things wrong.
00:25:55.000His answer is just, and I urge people to read the piece, it's a deeply humane one.
00:26:00.000It's about the fact that looking to politicians for our salvation Salvation's never going to come from people in Washington, or as he puts it, rich men north of Richmond.
00:26:09.000It's going to come, as he says, from us putting down our phones and starting to talk to one another again.
00:26:57.000And then like in a sense, you can see in all of the Oliver Antony phenomena, that a sort
00:27:02.000of a trend that's been prevailing since the Democrats under Clinton and the Labour Party
00:27:07.000under Tony Blair abandoned ordinary working people.
00:27:11.000They had to justify it by saying ordinary working people needed to change.
00:27:15.000The problem's not that we don't care anymore about representing the interests of ordinary Americans or ordinary Brits against the elites and the establishment and corporatised state institutions.
00:27:25.000The problem is that ordinary Americans and ordinary Brits are somehow disgusting and racist.
00:27:30.000They vote for Brexit, they vote for Trump without looking at what conditions People are enduring.
00:27:37.000And I suppose that there is mitigation against the charge that these bourgeois elites are uncaring by saying, well, we do care about these marginal minority issues.
00:28:35.000And in a way that this was a really good case study, because anyone with eyes and ears could hear that this person was singing from such a true place about such a real phenomenon.
00:28:48.000And in the weeks since he's sort of had this overnight unbelievable fame he's been offered, incredible deals and he's sort of resisting all of it and
00:28:56.000saying no I want to stay true to myself and I don't want to lose myself and lose my message by
00:29:01.000getting swept up in the very thing I'm trying to criticize he's a really interesting figure. I think Rogan had him on
00:29:06.000a few days ago but you guys should definitely have him on Get him on! Get him on! Drag him down by his ginger!
00:29:13.000But we'll go there to the mountains if we have to I'll go to that paper mill, I'll do a shift.
00:29:17.000I'm gonna need 30 or 40 dollars an hour, but I will go to that bloody paper mill.
00:29:22.000I can't do a whole night shift, not with my, with my hands.
00:30:02.000The Sound of Freedom, which was made by Angel Studios, I had never heard of Angel Studios, beat Mission Impossible at the box office, which was put out by Paramount.
00:30:14.000I don't even think it was reviewed by the so-called mainstream institutions.
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