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00:01:07.000We're talking about democracy, as a matter of fact, and the various ways that the Biden administration shuts down opposition, whether it's on TikTok by booting out Marianne Williamson's successful TikTok videos, or refusing To debate our man RFK, Robert F. Kennedy, who's going to be on the show Friday.
00:01:44.000I was thinking, like, when he's on here, like, on the show on Friday, and you've got to tune in, unless you're a member of Locals, like, then, you know, you can join us live, because we're actually doing the conversation straight after this.
00:01:53.000Like, when he says, I believe that it's beyond reasonable doubt that the CIA killed my uncle, do I have to sort of go like that?
00:02:12.000If the principles and the values are real, they will see you through life.
00:02:15.000We've got a great guest coming on, it's Professor Max Abrams.
00:02:17.000He's going to be telling us about the Kremlin drone strike.
00:02:20.000What's fascinating about this, you'll love this, Yeah, I think so, because on the mainstream news, CNN, all those lot, they go, it's a false flag attack.
00:02:31.000I didn't think that the normal news said things like false flag attack, because it's always other people saying, oh, is that a false flag attack?
00:02:39.000Join that locals community, by the way.
00:02:41.000If you're watching this on YouTube, we're only going to be on YouTube for about 20 minutes, because then it's going to get dicey, dicey, conspiracy.
00:02:48.000We're going to talk about stuff that is free speech stuff, stuff that you can't talk about when you've got people No!
00:05:14.000That was in a biopic, a Michael Jackson biopic.
00:05:17.000But that's not what we're here to discuss.
00:05:18.000We're here to discuss important ideas like democracy and how it's slowly being closed down.
00:05:23.000Did you know that when Joe Biden was Vice President, he was accused of taking some bribes?
00:05:29.000I think the accusation comes from earlier when he No, this is going on at the moment.
00:05:32.000So this is like the GOP, what they're saying is the FBI, because of a whistleblower has come forward to say the FBI is a document that is detailing a bribe that Biden took as vice president.
00:05:43.000And what they're saying is release that document, which I think if it was the other way around, I mean, people are saying, oh, this is just the Republicans.
00:07:53.000Also, I'm going to be asking, well, asking whatever questions you lot ask.
00:07:56.000That's why it's worth joining Locals, because you can watch us live straight after this show, talking to RFK, which will form the body of the Friday show here on Rumble.
00:08:05.000If you're watching us on YouTube, take that journey, man.
00:08:07.000You've got to just keep getting deeper and deeper and deeper.
00:08:10.000What I'm going to be saying to him is, are you serious about disbanding the CIA?
00:08:15.000Are you serious in your claim that it's beyond reasonable doubt, and we'll be doing that story in more detail in a minute, that the CIA murdered JFK?
00:08:22.000I mean, that's sort of like a heavy thing that we've all talked about.
00:08:25.000I mean, how many conspiracy... There ain't gonna be no conspiracy theories left.
00:08:40.000So we're gonna have a good conversation with him.
00:08:41.000Anyway, I think that, you know, if I was being the old... If I was president of America, and I think we'd all love that, I would debate all comers to show people how confident I was.
00:08:52.000Yeah, I mean, I think that's the argument at the moment.
00:08:55.000The last four presidents haven't done it because, as you say, they're not obliged to do it.
00:08:59.000But the very fact is that there's been a poll by Newsweek and the very people that voted for Biden, I think it's like 74% of them, want him to debate other candidates.
00:09:07.000So this is, by its very nature, anti-democratic.
00:09:10.000If what people are saying is, we want to see you come up against other democratic candidates.
00:10:42.000But we were saying, weren't we, that Jen Psaki and the last who does it now, Jean-Pierre or whatever, they all go from MSNBC, CNN, then back again.
00:10:51.000That's why you need something like RFK getting amongst it saying we're going to end those kind of the donation culture.
00:10:56.000We're going to end perhaps the pro... like the things I'm going to ask you about is will you end people in Congress owning stocks and shares in companies they're meant to regulate?
00:11:19.000Like, we want to, like, tell us whether or not you think there should be a debate while we have a look at them saying that there should be a debate and there don't need to be.
00:11:28.000And I'm starting to hear more and more talk about him.
00:11:32.000Are we going to actually have a challenge here?
00:11:35.000There's not going to be- Can I stop you for a second?
00:11:39.000Do you know how many people said the same thing about Donald Trump in 2015 on this show?
00:11:45.000Except I will note- Said the same exact thing.
00:11:48.000Yes, because there was going to be a Republican primary.
00:11:51.000But I really think that the mealy-mouthed Democrats, as I like to call them, and some of my progressive friends who would like to live in a fantasy land, they need to come back to reality.
00:12:39.000I mean when there was a lot of questions about how he would fare mentally moving forward anyway, I think, I mean this isn't me speaking, this is American people, 34% are, that's the only kind of confidence they have in him.
00:12:50.000When he debates himself, right, which is just, I would say, a speech, right, there's no one there opposing him.
00:12:56.000He's sort of like doing a speech and he's got to say, for example, some numbers.
00:12:59.000He gets all confused and then he argues back at himself about the numbers, then he gets all confused about it.
00:13:03.000So it's not just like within the accepted circles of the Democratic Party process where he is under no obligation,
00:13:10.000he's just been deftly described to have a debate.
00:13:12.000It's even in the less official spheres of TikTok.
00:13:16.000And we are thinking that they're trying to, you know, like they're like,
00:13:18.000oh, TikTok, got to bring TikTok down, even though all the things that TikTok do, other social media sites also do.
00:13:24.000Nevertheless, look, Biden's recruiting a TikTok army.
00:15:50.000She's been criticizing Joe Biden for his plan to expand CIA surveillance.
00:15:56.000And while Biden is saying that he wants to expand the CIA, one man with a great legacy name, one man from a dynasty, is saying that the CIA should be, well, that the CIA are guilty of murdering his uncle, JFK.
00:16:13.000If that's true, that's not something we can talk about over here on YouTube.
00:16:16.000If you're watching us on YouTube now, There's a link in the description.
00:16:19.000Make the short trip across your phone.
00:16:21.000I mean, you've only got to use your fingers.
00:16:22.000Sometimes I think what a mad world it is now that people actually find difficult to move from one app to another app.
00:16:34.000Look, I do stuff in the world is what I'm saying.
00:16:36.000Now join us because we're going to get into some conspiracy theories, plus we're going to be having a look at what's gone on this week in history, plus we're going to have Max Abrams on the show who's going to tell us that the Kremlin did not bomb themselves in their own...
00:19:34.000I think it's beyond a reasonable doubt at this point.
00:19:35.000The CIA, of course, calls claims the agency was involved in the assassination.
00:19:40.000Can you see the figure of Abraham Lincoln just in the back of shot trying to warn JFK about presidential assassinations from beyond the grave?
00:20:11.000Because those documents contain plans for a surprise party for your birthday and you've ruined it!
00:20:19.000You're just like your father and your uncle who we also assassinated as well as Martin Luther King and Malcolm X and basically anyone who ever stood up for the values of ordinary people against the deep state corporate machine which is at this point taken over completely.
00:20:31.000If you want to watch me chat to JFK you can!
00:22:47.000He runs an organisation called Open the Books where he makes government organisations reveal their expenditure on loopy stuff.
00:22:53.000He comes on in a little dickie bowtie and gets Russell, would you believe they spent two million dollars getting mice to put high heels on and parade around like little sluts?
00:23:03.000They coke them up to the nut bag, then watch them shit on a table!
00:23:14.000But, like, look at this stuff where they're taking cats into space like a literal Schrödinger's cat.
00:23:19.000Like, that's the experiment, isn't it?
00:23:21.000Where the cat is simultaneously alive and dead until you open the box, which is just a metaphor used to explain the double-slit theory that wave and particles appear to collapse into one identity under observation.
00:23:31.000Well, you know, that's crazy enough for one year, baby.
00:26:38.000So what Scientology has always done is gone for trauma.
00:26:41.000Trauma, it's interesting because I belong to groups that deal with trauma with a fusion of spirituality and psychiatry, but psychiatry only from an analytical perspective, because Scientology, they're double against psychiatry, aren't they?
00:28:18.000Right, now let me know, did you ever get your guitar thrown out the window?
00:28:21.000Although, when I was younger, when I'd have to move out of a girl, a friend's house, I can remember when they'd throw a bin bag of his stuff.
00:28:27.000You've had one of those moments, have you?
00:28:29.000It wasn't a guitar though, it was just a bin bag of stuff and my mum's lasagna dish.
00:33:45.000But the conquest of Japan Hand in hand with our American allies is a formidable undertaking.
00:33:54.000We haven't yet bombed Nagasaki in Hiroshima.
00:33:59.000I suppose what's a joy at looking at old media is of course we have the benefit of hindsight.
00:34:04.000A statesman like Churchill, condemned by many as a war monger, in particular because of the bombing of Dresden that was subsequently regarded as superfluous, surfeit, egregious.
00:34:17.000You also, I don't know man, I find it hard, because we've been propagandised, haven't we?
00:34:22.000Even when I see him and it's not, it's not quite what you think it's going to be, it's sort of a bit higher in the nose and a little more stilted, I've still been sort of coached to see him as magnificent.
00:34:35.000And the grand sweeping narratives of history seem simpler.
00:35:04.000Like, what if, like, the Second World War, during the Second World War, would you be going, oh, Britain, they're out of order, and the US shouldn't have done it.
00:35:11.000And he's like, no, that was, like, a pretty serious conflict, and it was different, and it was necessary.
00:35:18.000And I think that some people, you know, because we all exist in these silos and enclaves in places like Rumble, where, because the free speech aspect is so important, sometimes you recognize that you are Prioritizing certain types of information, particularly me, my biases now are I do not trust the mainstream media.
00:35:34.000I do not trust the establishment at all.
00:35:36.000And I think I feel somewhat vindicated in that.
00:35:39.000But when, like, I hear friends of mine that are part of the more conventional liberal establishment or old school sort of liberal leanings, and they say, no, this war against Russia is like that.
00:35:51.000Do you ever have like doubts about it?
00:35:53.000Think no maybe this is a just war and like you know like because of course we're sympathetic to Ukrainian people and it's a terrible and all that you know we've talked about it all the time of course but do you ever have doubts about it?
00:36:01.000Well we'll have Max Abrams on soon discussing this very fact and I mean all the stuff that has been uncovered about the situation in Ukraine the the way in which You know, people obviously call it a proxy war, the way in which the war's been sustained, the money that's been spent.
00:36:17.000I do think it's really interesting watching this and comparing it.
00:36:20.000I mean, at the time, you know, my grandad would have been probably not watching it because he was in the war at the time, but the public watched this and this was at a point where they looked to Churchill.
00:36:33.000And someone who's obviously revered and is every word, you know, people listen to.
00:36:38.000I just think it's amazing to compare that to now.
00:36:41.000And what we, the way we think of our leaders, every time one of them does a speech and we immediately think, well, that's a lie and that's rubbish.
00:36:49.000Obviously I'm not suggesting like to be so reductive that these kinds of things didn't go on in this time, but the way in which it's changed and the way in which we feel about our leaders is massively changed.
00:36:59.000Yeah, he notoriously blundered in part of the campaign around Norway.
00:37:07.000But I suppose, you know, iconoclasm aside, human beings are flawed.
00:37:13.000One time when I was participating in a riot, in one of those May Day riots that you have in London years ago, when they put that green strip of turf on the Churchill statue, I was sort of there at that bit, like Zellig or Forrest Gump.
00:37:29.000I remember I was there at various points.
00:37:30.000They smashed in a McDonald's window and stuff like that, and I was sort of like watching that.
00:37:33.000I was probably, I was still on drugs, I was probably about 24.
00:37:36.000And like, I remember feeling like that there are some people who even if you disagree with them, you have to somehow honour that they exemplify something.
00:37:45.000You can sort of iconoclise, if that's indeed a word, like yourself out of heroes.
00:37:51.000Oh, well, this person did that, that person did that, and start to recognise.
00:37:53.000Maybe with someone like Churchill, let us know in the chat.
00:37:56.000Sometimes you feel like these people did believe in what they were doing.
00:38:00.000They exemplified something and of course on the other side you've got literal Hitler.
00:38:08.000So it seems like a sort of a more legitimate conflict due to the freight of the enemy, the atrocities conducted under the Third Reich, their genocide, the persecution, the murder, the sort of, where would that have ended? And of
00:38:23.000course, you know, a lot of people argue that, and in some ways, it's sort of literally you
00:38:27.000can trace how Nazi scientists, for example, were blatantly employed, allegedly, like
00:39:26.000Why is it that in public, the American government and media machine are saying one thing, it's a winnable war, the Ukrainian people are brave, no one's disputing that, it's only a matter of time, whilst in private, as revealed by the Pentagon Papers Part Deux, they have significant and real doubts about the outcome of that war.
00:40:41.000Why are we not focusing on the fact that you're being asked to pay for a war that even the people that advocate for it publicly do not believe can be won?
00:40:49.000Hopefully, though, one of the political parties and its representatives will give you an oppositional view.
00:40:54.000Let's start with Kevin McCarthy, Republican Speaker of the House.
00:41:39.000Let's see if we can get another perspective on financially supporting through your tax dollars via the military-industrial complex, the war, from Karine Jean-Pierre on behalf of the Democrats.
00:41:50.000Look, we're glad to hear that Speaker McCarthy agrees it is vital to keep supporting Ukraine.
00:41:57.000I would say it's the military-industrial complex that they're ultimately supporting.
00:41:59.000There are a lot of variables, but who will definitely, definitely benefit, continue to benefit because they're benefiting already, is the military-industrial complex.
00:42:05.000Let me know what you think in the chat and the comments.
00:42:06.000The widespread bipartisan support that we've seen in Congress for Ukraine has received,
00:42:13.000has been critical to those efforts and we agree that it is important for that support
00:42:18.000to continue and we're glad to hear that coming from Speaker McCarthy for sure.
00:42:23.000When it comes to war, it's great that both parties completely agree with one another.
00:42:28.000You don't want dissent, interrogation, inquiry, clarification, a Pentagon that can pass audits, weapons that can be tracked all the way to their destination.
00:42:35.000All those things are, I don't know, boring.
00:42:38.000Here's Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin under oath.
00:42:41.000Oh god, I nearly forgot to mention it.
00:42:42.000He used to work for Raytheon who make weapons.
00:43:12.000There they are, publicly declaring that Ukraine has a real good chance.
00:43:16.000Well, let's hope that there isn't another perspective that's being concealed from the public, because remember, all these billions of dollars of aid, 50% of which goes to the military-industrial complex, is coming from you.
00:44:05.000Secretary of State Tony Blinken has repeatedly insisted that the war will be a strategic defeat for Russia that will leave it weakened and incapable of future aggression.
00:44:13.000Even the administration's most sober-minded observer of the war, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley, has asserted that Ukraine has the leadership and morale to beat Russia.
00:44:23.000Driven by these optimistic pronouncements, Biden officials have insisted that justice must prevail in the war.
00:44:28.000They say that Putin and other Russian officials must be tried for war crimes.
00:44:32.000But don't talk to the ICC, the International Criminal Court, about that because you might find that that literally means that America is similarly guilty for war crimes.
00:44:40.000So even the war crimes that Russia are guilty of, and by the way, they are, cannot be reported through the ICC channels because it would demonstrate a precedent by which the Americans would similarly be convicted.
00:44:53.000They insist, as the victim of unprovoked Russian aggression, Ukraine alone has the right to determine whether to seek a settlement or concede territory.
00:45:01.000The bottom line from the White House has been that American resolve will not waver and that the war will result in a uniformly happy ending for the United States and its allies.
00:45:10.000A democratic, independent, sovereign and prosperous Ukraine has chastened and defanged Russia in a peaceful and stable Europe and all can and will be achieved without committing US troops to fight against Russia and risking what Biden has called World War 3.
00:45:24.000Quite a lot of mad things in there, really.
00:45:27.000Democratic, independent, look at what BlackRock and Vanguard will be doing after.
00:45:31.000Let's check and see if any other major global corporations in the field of energy, for example, will be profiting from events subsequent to a conclusion to this conflict.
00:45:40.000And are there already US troops in there?
00:45:42.000And what are the revelations of buddy boy Jack Texera?
00:45:47.000The purported Pentagon leaks of classified documents, officially unconfirmed but covered widely in Western media, raise profound questions about this narrative.
00:45:55.000If these press reports are accurate, they suggest the United States is tiptoeing much closer to a direct war with Russia than the Biden team has acknowledged.
00:46:03.000They also allege that as of March, there were a small number of undisclosed American special forces personnel on the ground in Ukraine, raising the question of what Washington would do should Russians intentionally or unintentionally strike them.
00:46:15.000Moreover, the reports paint a much bleaker picture of Kiev's prospects in the war than the White House has acknowledged.
00:46:21.000Ukraine's challenges in massing troops, ammunition and equipment could cause its military to fall well short of Kiev's original goals for an anticipated counter-offensive aimed at retaking Russian-occupied areas this spring.
00:46:34.000The bleak assessment from early February warns of significant force generation and sustainment shortfalls and the likelihood that such an operation will result in only modest territorial gains.
00:46:45.000is a marked departure from the Biden administration's public statements about the fatality of Ukraine's military and is likely to embolden critics who feel the United States and NATO should do more to push for a negotiated settlement to the conflict.
00:46:57.000Under what circumstances would a negotiated settlement be worse?
00:47:00.000In the end, that is what you will get.
00:47:02.000And it's difficult not to imagine at this point that part of the motivation for prolonging this conflict is that it's profitable.
00:47:09.000We all know what power is imposed upon Washington through lobbying, through donations,
00:47:14.000the fact that both parties parrot the same line when it comes to this issue that even law...
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00:48:37.000Poppy Xavier, the Ukraine government is corrupt as the US government.
00:48:40.000Well, I'm afraid yes, there is some evidence to suggest you're right.
00:48:44.000Astrotutuch says, let's not forget that Russian kids were killed too, you know, and benefits from, well, actually the military-industrial complex do benefit.
00:48:54.000Remember, if you're watching us on Locals right now, and I suggest you do, just press the red button on your screen.
00:48:58.000You can join us straight after this for our live Locals conversation with RFK.
00:49:03.000Put your questions for RFK in the chat and I will pass those questions on to him in our live conversation, which will be broadcast on Rumble this Friday.
00:49:14.000Putin says a real war is being waged against Russia in Victory Day speech.
00:49:18.000And of course, you'll be well aware of the drone strike on the Kremlin that the West declared was a false flag story.
00:49:26.000In fact, let's have a look at that before we go to our guest, Max Abrams.
00:49:31.000Here are the mainstream media making that claim right now.
00:49:44.000Why don't we have a little conversation now with Max Abrams, expert in international security, specialising in terrorism, counter-terrorism and US foreign policy.
00:50:34.000So you hear the allegation all the time, oh, this attack must be a false flag, but the actual number is much smaller.
00:50:41.000This is particularly true in the case of Russia.
00:50:46.000If someone were to Google, you know, false flag, Ukraine war, they'll see probably dozens of times when these sort of establishment pundits say, this is a false flag, but No empirical evidence ever materializes on this.
00:51:03.000The most notable case is the Nord Stream attack, where Russia was blamed for blowing up its own gas lines.
00:51:12.000And here now, Russia is blamed for attacking the Kremlin.
00:51:17.000And I suspect that we're going to see many, many more allegations of false flags because there are going to be many more Ukrainian attacks inside of Russia.
00:51:28.000We know that from the leaks, from the Pentagon leaks, that Zelensky has instructed his fighters to attack inside of Russia.
00:51:37.000And when the Ukrainians think, or when supporters of the Ukrainians think, that that attack is going to be risky or counterproductive or embarrassing, they will try to distance Ukraine from the attack and blame it on the Russians.
00:51:56.000A lot of my research focuses on militant groups, and we see this in the militant group space as well.
00:52:05.000So, for example, on 9-11, 9-11 in many ways was counterproductive because bin Laden said that he wanted to get the United States out of the Persian Gulf.
00:52:15.000The United States responded by occupying the Persian Gulf.
00:52:19.000So many people concluded and said, no, it couldn't have been bin Laden.
00:52:24.000It had to have been, you know, an inside job.
00:52:27.000With the Oklahoma City attacks in 1995, that was also bad for the patriot movement.
00:52:34.000It was counterproductive for the patriot movement.
00:52:37.000And so a lot of people said, oh, no, it couldn't have been Timothy McVeigh.
00:52:41.000We've seen the same thing in Algeria in the 1990s, where they committed all sorts of stupid attacks against civilian targets.
00:52:49.000And so a lot of conspiracy theories formed, saying that it couldn't have been the G.I.A., it had to have been the The Algerian government.
00:52:59.000Basically, whenever there's an attack inside of Russia, which could reflect badly on the Ukrainians, they're going to blame it on Russia.
00:53:10.000And so, you know, I've studied this sort of more broadly.
00:53:15.000And so based on that, as well as the terrible track record of these establishment pundits, you know, I'm about 70 percent sure that the establishment narrative is not correct.
00:53:26.000Of course the question that people frequently ask when such events, particularly when the events are not easy to discern, when it's not plain whether or not it was a false flag or a legitimate attack, people always ask who benefits?
00:53:40.000And I suppose what you're saying, Max, is that just because the 9-11 attacks led to the ability to invade Iraq, led to the ability to surveil the domestic population, the introduction of new wars.
00:53:56.000You can't automatically conclude from that something as simple as it was, you know, the famous conspiracy theory that 9-11 was an inside job.
00:54:07.000But there are sometimes alignments of interest and sometimes the manipulation of events.
00:54:12.000We had, we were watching clips of Churchill earlier and of course some people believe that an American warship was sunk as a precipitation to US involvement in the war and perhaps these are the idea that there are strategic moves or that things are allowed to take place, you know, even if they aren't directly undertaken by sort of, I don't know, CIA, deep state operatives, even though we're talking about the Nord Stream attack, it feels like Maybe that was undertaken by, you know, special forces from Finland or Norway or whatever.
00:54:45.000Yeah, I mean, the evidence is pointing to that.
00:54:47.000Believe me, if there was any evidence that could publicly link Russia to the attack, we would have seen it, right?
00:54:54.000But the thing is, is that militant groups and national militaries, they do a lot of stupid stuff.
00:55:00.000So the fact that they, you know, attack some target, which is going to be counterproductive for them, that doesn't mean that they didn't do it.
00:55:10.000You know, I expect to see many more Ukrainian attacks inside of Russia, and some of these will, you know, probably rile up the Russian public to be even more supportive of the war.
00:55:24.000It'll help to give Putin more sort of national backing to prosecute this war.
00:55:30.000And depending on the kind of attack, it could even begin to erode some international support if the Ukrainian attack is seen as, you know, being too indiscriminate, for example, or being too risky in terms of pushing the likelihood of nuclear escalation.
00:55:48.000But I do think that this is an important aspect of the Ukrainian war is that
00:55:56.000It is not going to stay simply within Ukraine.
00:56:00.000More and more, I believe it's gonna migrate into Russia.
00:56:04.000And what I'm concerned about, and many people are concerned about,
00:56:07.000is that the war could expand even beyond that.
00:56:11.000That it could involve Poland, that Article 5 of NATO could be invoked.
00:56:18.000And what we'll see is no longer a proxy war inside of Ukraine, but a direct military confrontation between the US, NATO, and against Russia.
00:56:28.000This is my worst fear, and I don't think that it's unreasonable to have it.
00:56:34.000Max, it certainly shows how little faith there is in the US government, in institutions like NATO and the media at large, that none of us feel broadly certain that we can simply take in good faith the narratives we are offered when they so plainly underwrite financial agenda and directives of dominion.
00:56:58.000Thank you very much, Max, for joining us on the show.
00:57:01.000You can read Max's book, Rules for Rebels, The Science of Victory in Militant History, and we'll post a link to that in the chat right now.
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00:57:11.000Max, thank you very much for coming on the show and illuminating this difficult issue for us.
00:57:27.000Right, that's one of the reasons, see.
00:57:29.000So we knew we'd get there, investigation, which is what Max would have done.
00:57:32.000So maybe I'm more like him certainly than you.
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00:58:08.000Before we end the show, we want to pay tribute and offer our condolences to Glenn Greenwald after the loss of his husband, David Miranda.
00:58:15.000We consider Glenn Not only a fantastic journalist and broadcaster but a friend over here at Rumble, a person that helped us to appreciate that this is a place we could come to join the conversation around free speech, anti-establishment values, legitimate journalism and investigation even though we are quite silly occasionally.
00:58:33.000Glenn, we feel your loss and we're all praying for you and offering you our love to you and your whole family, your kids, your dogs and everything and I know how much your husband meant to you and that he was a Good and beautiful man.