Stay Free - Russel Brand - RON DESANTIS & RUSSELL BRAND: Taking On TRUMP, FAUCI and The WAR IN UKRAINE - Stay Free #173

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00:29:30.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:29:31.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:29:34.000 It's a very special episode because Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida and presidential candidate, is joining us.

00:29:41.000 We're going to talk to Ron for 15 minutes on YouTube, if you're watching us there.

00:29:44.000 Then we'll be exclusively on Rumble to talk about Trump, CBDCs, war in Ukraine, anti-riot, stroke anti-protest laws, and what that distinction means.

00:29:54.000 In our item, Here's the News, we're going to be talking about Biden's temper. 0.95

00:29:59.000 Is he a toddler or is he a lethal lunatic? 0.55

00:30:03.000 Let us know in the comments where you stand on that particular issue. 0.52

00:30:06.000 And is even this new revelation that Biden behaves extraordinarily in public... This is an allegation, it's not being...

00:30:14.000 It's not been proven.

00:30:16.000 Is that potentially PR to make him sound a little more edgy, a little more priapic than he otherwise may, and a little less docile?

00:30:25.000 But now, the reason that you've joined us, I'm sure, is because we have the great privilege of welcoming the Governor of Florida and Republican presidential candidate for 2024, Ron DeSantis, and I've got a copy of The Courage to be Free, Ron DeSantis' book, in my hand now to endorse it by proximity and contact.

00:30:46.000 Ron, thank you so much for joining us on Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:30:49.000 Well, thanks for having me, and thanks for plugging the book.

00:30:51.000 Not everyone does that.

00:30:52.000 I didn't even ask you to do it, so appreciate it.

00:30:55.000 We are very professional here, and we're very grateful to have you on the show.

00:30:59.000 Thanks for joining us, thanks for supporting and endorsing Rumble, which of course has its home in the state that you are the governor of.

00:31:07.000 Ron, when I was in Florida recently, I was struck by the amount of pride that Floridians have in their state.

00:31:15.000 You appear to be universally endorsed by the population of Florida.

00:31:20.000 I did stand-up comedy there, A lot of my stand-up was talking about measures taken in the pandemic where I live in the UK and the broad and I would say spookily ubiquitous response to the pandemic in most places in the world except one might contest in Florida.

00:31:40.000 I'm sure that the sense of state pride that Floridians have is a source of great joy to you.

00:31:45.000 I wonder How you came to the position of confidence in taking a stance that was antithetical to the stance taken elsewhere in America.

00:31:55.000 Well, I'm glad you noticed that.

00:31:58.000 I was born and raised in Florida.

00:32:00.000 And while I've always loved the state, we didn't have the same type of pride growing up that, say, people in Texas have about Texas.

00:32:08.000 And yet in the last few years, particularly since I've been governor, we've developed that pride.

00:32:13.000 And I think a lot of it's rooted in the fact That we told people like Fauci to take a hike during COVID.

00:32:20.000 We were going to do it our way.

00:32:22.000 We were going to be the free state of Florida.

00:32:24.000 And obviously that meant people had a right to work, right to operate businesses, kids needed to be in school.

00:32:29.000 We fought back against mandates both in terms of not letting local governments impose mask mandates.

00:32:36.000 Not letting government or business impose COVID vaccine mandates.

00:32:40.000 So in every step of the way, we were really leading.

00:32:43.000 And how did I come to it?

00:32:44.000 I mean, part of it was I just looked at the data that was coming in.

00:32:49.000 The whole premise of lockdown Both in the UK and in the United States, was in the idea that COVID would cause massive amounts of hospitalizations and we wouldn't even have any more hospital beds left over for normal patients.

00:33:02.000 We all got those models, all governors, all heads of state, and I'm looking at this in like March and April, And none of it was accurate.

00:33:11.000 All the predictions were bogus.

00:33:13.000 And so I said, listen, this is something that we're going to have to live with.

00:33:16.000 Sweden is living with it, and they're doing much better than most of these other countries in Europe.

00:33:22.000 Let's have people make their own decisions rather than forcing Fauci-ism on our state.

00:33:30.000 And I think that the goal of Fauci Was to have rolling lockdowns.

00:33:36.000 So you'd lock down, then COVID would go down, then you could maybe open back up.

00:33:40.000 But when the next wave started, you would have to lock down again.

00:33:43.000 And I think they would have wanted to repeat that over and over again.

00:33:46.000 Had Florida not stood in the way, I think they would have gotten away with it.

00:33:50.000 But what happened was, we said we're standing for freedom.

00:33:53.000 We remember we had a COVID wave summer of 2020.

00:33:55.000 Everyone was telling me, you've got to lock down Florida.

00:33:58.000 Fauci was saying it, the White House, the press, the left, all these people.

00:34:03.000 And I said, no.

00:34:04.000 I said, I'm going to stand.

00:34:05.000 A lot of people said, your political career is over.

00:34:07.000 And you know, at the end of the day, so be it, right?

00:34:10.000 A leader's got to do what he thinks is right.

00:34:12.000 You got to stand up for your folks, protect their jobs instead of worrying about your own political hide.

00:34:17.000 And so that's what we did.

00:34:18.000 It made the state better, and that did.

00:34:21.000 But I do think it had an impact around the country, because anytime the lockdowners wanted to do more restrictions, people could just point to Florida and say, well, wait a minute.

00:34:30.000 Florida's not doing this.

00:34:31.000 Why don't we have to do it?

00:34:32.000 So we were glad to be able to take that stand.

00:34:35.000 But here's the thing.

00:34:36.000 You still have people today, Fauci and the like, They think that what they did was right.

00:34:43.000 They think that these lockdowns worked.

00:34:45.000 And so my fear is, if this happens in the future, a lot of these people are going to want to do the same thing again.

00:34:51.000 So one of the things I pledged as president, and I think I'm the only one running on the Republican side who will be willing to do this, we're going to bring a reckoning to this health bureaucracy and this medical swamp.

00:35:02.000 Because these agencies like CDC, NIH, FDA, they failed the American people.

00:35:07.000 They become corrupted.

00:35:08.000 And they did a lot of damage with these unscientific anti-freedom policies.

00:35:13.000 Well, that's pretty heartening to hear.

00:35:15.000 In retrospect, your stance increasingly seems to have been the correct one.

00:35:21.000 And that's interesting and exciting, in fact, to hear you talk about a reckoning.

00:35:27.000 One thing that is evident from the position that you took as Governor of Florida, the

00:35:31.000 decentralization and the ability that you had to take that position, which must have

00:35:36.000 felt like a huge risk given that it was in opposition to the proposed mandate in elsewhere,

00:35:44.000 the sacking of key workers in New York City, the advocacy for shaming by CNN of people

00:35:51.000 that were hesitant or reluctant to pursue certain medical propositions, a risk that

00:35:57.000 has doubtlessly paid off, but also it helps us to identify the importance of decentralization.

00:36:05.000 With this in mind, how do you feel that you would preside over the United States of America

00:36:12.000 if you fundamentally believe in the rights of individual states to establish their own

00:36:17.000 laws and govern in their own way?

00:36:21.000 Well there is way too much authority in Washington, D.C.

00:36:24.000 and in the federal government right now.

00:36:26.000 And a lot of that is, I'd say, illegitimate authority that has been accumulated over many, many decades.

00:36:34.000 Some of that is because Congress has been neglectful, presidents have been neglectful.

00:36:38.000 But you have a massive bureaucratic administrative state That exists almost outside of typical elections.

00:36:46.000 They exert power over the populace regardless of the outcome elections.

00:36:50.000 None of these people are elected and they purport to tell us what kind of energy we can use, what kind of car we can drive, even whether Potentially, you're allowed to have a gas stove.

00:37:01.000 You know, in Florida, we made gas stoves tax-free because we believe that you should have the ability to do all that.

00:37:07.000 So part of the project, I think, is to take power out of Washington and send it back to the states, the localities, and individuals.

00:37:17.000 That means we need a radical reduction of the federal bureaucracy.

00:37:21.000 We're going to tell our cabinet secretaries that they have to reduce the number of employees that they have inside D.C.

00:37:29.000 by 50 percent.

00:37:30.000 And that's going to probably be the biggest reduction in power in Washington in modern American history.

00:37:37.000 But we cannot go down the road of letting more and more power consolidate in Washington, D.C.

00:37:43.000 Part of the reason is The founders never wanted to have consolidated power like that because they understood that's a threat to freedom.

00:37:49.000 You also have another problem that the ruling class in DC, they get almost every major issue wrong.

00:37:57.000 And so these are the last people you would want to surrender judgment and freedom to.

00:38:02.000 They're going to lead us down the road to ruin.

00:38:05.000 So we've got a lot of work to do.

00:38:07.000 But at the end of the day, part of the reason we've been successful in Florida is we fought back against the federal government.

00:38:12.000 For example, When the federal government tried to impose the COVID-19 vax mandates on the economy, you had one through the main economy, which we fought back and won.

00:38:23.000 Then they did one on the medical personnel, nurses, who a lot of these nurses had had COVID.

00:38:28.000 They didn't want to take the vax.

00:38:29.000 And so we called a special session of the legislature.

00:38:33.000 We said, you don't have to do it in Florida.

00:38:35.000 Federal government said, well, we're telling you, you have to.

00:38:37.000 And we said, go pound sand.

00:38:39.000 We're not going to cooperate.

00:38:40.000 So the federal government fined us $2 million.

00:38:43.000 But you know what?

00:38:44.000 We saved the jobs of tens of thousands of people throughout our state.

00:38:48.000 And so there's a lot you can do when you just stand up to these people to do what's right.

00:38:53.000 But there's no question that there's too much power in Washington, D.C.

00:38:57.000 Presumably this process of devolving power and breaking down centralized bureaucratic power in Washington, if undertaken in good faith, would mean in states like California and New York State, you would get different cultural and ideological inflections, certainly from, based on our

00:39:19.000 current reading, from the type of cultural values that are espoused and somewhat represented

00:39:26.000 and in fact embodied by you, Ron.

00:39:29.000 And I wonder, if this process is undertaken in good faith, how will that affect the culture war,

00:39:35.000 an issue that you've been most outspoken on, if you genuinely are devolving power in the manner

00:39:42.000 that you have described.

00:39:44.000 That's the first part of my question that I may offer you because presumably California

00:39:48.000 would have a whole different set of values, different policies on green issues for example,

00:39:55.000 different policies on homelessness and many of the topics loosely corralled under, let's

00:40:01.000 say, wokeness and the anti-woke discourse that's been dominating political and culture

00:40:06.000 more broadly for a while.

00:40:08.000 The second part of my question is, are you willing to approach and rebut centralised

00:40:14.000 power in its corporate and private form in the same way that you would confront it in

00:40:20.000 I'm talking, of course, of giant monopolies and duopolies in the areas of big tech and even energy and media.

00:40:27.000 Because, of course, one of the arguments that is advanced for pro-state power is that it gives us the ability to confront corporate power even if that isn't happening anywhere in American politics at the moment.

00:40:39.000 Well, no, I mean, I think it's a great, great issue, but I actually think it's just the opposite.

00:40:44.000 I think what you've seen is a collusion between big government and big business.

00:40:48.000 I mean, just take big tech.

00:40:50.000 A lot of the things that were being censored during COVID, for example, that wasn't just being done because Mark Zuckerberg thought that he wanted it censored.

00:40:58.000 No, he was working with people like Fauci.

00:41:01.000 They were working with people inside of government to censor dissent on lockdowns, on mask mandates, on school closures, on vax mandates.

00:41:09.000 All these things that, I mean, if you think about it, a free society has to have debates over important issues.

00:41:16.000 What more important issue have we had in the last decade or two than whether society should be locked down?

00:41:23.000 I mean, are you kidding me?

00:41:25.000 And they didn't want to have that debate.

00:41:27.000 So I actually think that, yes, obviously, when there's less power in Washington, individual states, they have certain powers to make different decisions.

00:41:35.000 But I do think if we break up, The relationship between big government and some of these big monopolies, particularly in the tech sphere, I think that's actually going to have universal benefit throughout the country because there's going to be more ability to speak freely.

00:41:51.000 You're not going to have Uncle Sam with its thumb on the scale.

00:41:54.000 And let's just be clear about this.

00:41:56.000 The federal government could not censor you and say you can't say something about, say, lockdowns.

00:42:02.000 That would violate the First Amendment.

00:42:03.000 Everybody knows that.

00:42:05.000 But they can't subcontract out that to a private entity and have the private entity do what the federal government couldn't do directly.

00:42:12.000 It's still a violation of the First Amendment.

00:42:15.000 One of the things we did in Florida as governor, I signed legislation expressly prohibiting

00:42:20.000 our state and local government employees from colluding with big tech for any type of speech

00:42:26.000 censorship or to police quote misinformation or disinformation.

00:42:30.000 They are not allowed to do that as a matter of law.

00:42:33.000 As president, I'll issue an executive order basically barring federal employees from colluding

00:42:40.000 with big tech like we've seen in the past.

00:42:42.000 But I think this whole idea of freedom in our society has got to be viewed through the

00:42:47.000 lens of yes, we know big government can be bad for freedom.

00:42:51.000 There's no question about it.

00:42:53.000 But we live in an era where a lot of these big private concentrations of power are exercising kind of government-like power.

00:43:01.000 I mean, if you have Wall Street banks collude to deny funding for, say, gun shop owners, Well, that's an indirect attack on the Second Amendment.

00:43:12.000 When you have different types of tech companies colluding with government to censor certain subjects, that's an attack on the First Amendment.

00:43:20.000 So, you've got to understand that freedom's under attack not just from government power.

00:43:27.000 There's also concentration of private power, which does threaten a free society.

00:43:32.000 So far, so good, so presidential, and so many questions yet remaining.

00:43:39.000 Of course we have to follow up, Ron, on the aspect of my question that touched on the culture war, because freedom is a two-way street, and if we're going to grant freedom to people, to express themselves culturally in the manner that is embodied by your success there in Florida, then what about the freedom of those opposed?

00:43:59.000 But the next question that I'm going to ask Ron DeSantis is, would you pardon Trump on the charges around January 6th and the handling of classified documents?

00:44:10.000 And if this man can speak so eloquently and appealingly, how is it that Trump is still soaring in the polls?

00:44:16.000 To hear the answer to those questions, you are going to have to join us on Rumble.

00:44:21.000 There's a link in the description right now if you're watching.

00:44:24.000 So join us over there on the home of free speech.

00:44:26.000 We're going to be speaking freely because some of the issues that Ron's already touched upon are most relevant to us on our independent media platform.

00:44:34.000 If you're watching us on Rumble, press the red button on your screen now and join our locals community.

00:44:40.000 You may be familiar with the former proprietor of Locals, our friend, our mutual friend, Dave Rubin, Floridian gay man, friend of Ron DeSantis.

00:44:52.000 Actually, before we get on to Trump, Ron, could I just say that are you willing to acknowledge and accept that The kind of freedom that you're talking about, and of course it's telling that the example you use is like, you know, gun shop owners.

00:45:04.000 But would you, as president, a president that's looking to decrease state power, recognize that in states that are conventionally more aligned with liberal values, and even the kind of woke values that you have publicly condemned, would they have the right to pursue policies in those areas?

00:45:23.000 Would they be granted the same freedom Sure.

00:45:28.000 Well, actually, I don't even think it's a question of granting.

00:45:35.000 I think our Constitution is set up.

00:45:37.000 It was created by the states.

00:45:39.000 The states created the Constitution.

00:45:41.000 They retained the bulk of the power.

00:45:44.000 And they're allowed to use that power to do what their constituents want.

00:45:48.000 And as much as I kind of look to see some of the stuff that may go on in California and shake my head, clearly they're going to have a right to pursue some of the things.

00:45:58.000 Like, for example, how they handle their energy situation.

00:46:01.000 I think it's a mistake.

00:46:02.000 You have rolling blackouts.

00:46:04.000 You have all these problems.

00:46:06.000 I think they're putting ideology ahead of sound science.

00:46:10.000 But nevertheless, if people don't like that, they can vote in a new government.

00:46:14.000 They can vote them out of office.

00:46:16.000 So that's just the nature of a federalist system.

00:46:18.000 We understand that there's 50 different states.

00:46:20.000 We say it's a laboratory of democracy.

00:46:22.000 I would point out though that the people are leaving those woke states and they're migrating to states like Florida.

00:46:30.000 Who are doing it differently.

00:46:32.000 So I think in terms of the experiment of people voting with their feet, the results of that have been very, very clear.

00:46:37.000 They're choosing Florida above all else.

00:46:39.000 They're choosing Texas, Tennessee.

00:46:41.000 They're basically choosing states that have rejected the woke agenda and that are focusing on what I would say are just common sense principles, but certainly things like safe streets, quality education.

00:46:54.000 Yeah, that's just been our bread and butter in Florida.

00:46:57.000 We're ranked the number one economy.

00:46:59.000 In the country out of 50 states by CNBC, which is not a fan of mine, we have the number one for new business formations and we've had more wealth migrate into Florida since I've been governor than has ever migrated into an individual state over a similar period of time in American history.

00:47:14.000 So we're proud of that and we think Americans can make judgments about where they want to live.

00:47:19.000 No one's saying you haven't done a great job in Florida.

00:47:21.000 I've been to Florida.

00:47:23.000 I had a good time in Florida.

00:47:24.000 My stand-up comedy audience love you in Florida.

00:47:27.000 No one's saying that except perhaps when it comes to devolving the power for schools and allowing them and allowing their parents to participate in which books should be permitted when it comes to ideology and which books should be banned.

00:47:41.000 Now I agree with decentralization and I fundamentally believe that true freedom is the Other people's freedom. 0.96

00:47:50.000 And I wonder, just to use this rather localized example, if you were to grant similar freedoms in California, you can imagine that the types of books that might get banned wouldn't be books that promote certain sexualities and certain lifestyles.

00:48:05.000 They might be more traditional and orthodox books.

00:48:08.000 Would you be happy with that, and would you permit that?

00:48:11.000 If schools, for example, in California said, we want to ban the Bible, or we don't want to talk about Christianity, or we don't want to talk about heterosexual families, or we want further gun control legislation, you'd be down for all that?

00:48:22.000 Well, they've done that for years.

00:48:23.000 I mean, I don't think in California they would allow a Bible.

00:48:26.000 I think it should be allowed, of course, but I don't think that they do do that.

00:48:29.000 In Florida, what we've really done, though, is we have devolved power to the parents.

00:48:35.000 Because, ultimately, school systems don't exist Just for their own sake.

00:48:39.000 They exist to serve the community.

00:48:42.000 And so we think it's appropriate that the education reflects community standards.

00:48:46.000 So when you have some of the stuff which has been very graphic and pornographic in a fourth grade or fifth grade classroom, it's not a question of banning it because you as an adult are free to do that in Florida.

00:48:56.000 We're not getting rid of it.

00:48:58.000 It's not like Amazon where they won't put books on that talk about negatively talk about like gender ideology in Florida.

00:49:06.000 But there's a time and a place to have something that graphic.

00:49:09.000 We don't want to be treating kids like adults.

00:49:12.000 We want to be treating kids like kids.

00:49:14.000 And so injecting some of these concepts in first or second grade is just not appropriate.

00:49:18.000 So we're just giving parents the ability to know what's being taught in schools.

00:49:22.000 And then if something violates the standards that Florida sets, they can do it.

00:49:26.000 For example, take it away from the sexualization.

00:49:29.000 We have Holocaust education in Florida.

00:49:32.000 If a teacher teaches that the Holocaust didn't happen, we obviously, the parents would blow the whistle and there would be issues.

00:49:39.000 So we have a right to set what standards we want to be taught.

00:49:42.000 We can pick what subjects that we want to be taught and do it in that direction.

00:49:47.000 But nothing is being banned.

00:49:49.000 You guys can knock yourself out on any of that stuff.

00:49:52.000 Just don't put it in a fourth grade classroom where it's not appropriate.

00:49:56.000 So I think we've gotten it right.

00:49:57.000 I think we're Getting the education back on the idea that this should be about instructing kids for a better life so that they can think for themselves, be citizens of the republic.

00:50:08.000 We don't want our schools to just be indoctrination centers where it's all about imposing an ideological agenda.

00:50:15.000 And here's the thing.

00:50:16.000 There's an opportunity cost for doing some of the sexualization and some of the other stuff, because you're not doing as much as you need to on reading.

00:50:23.000 You're not doing as much as you need to on science and math.

00:50:27.000 And so from both what's appropriate and what parents find appropriate, but also from the perspective of opportunity costs, Let's just focus on things we can all agree on, and we all know are important, and we can do it.

00:50:39.000 But anytime the media says there's any type of bans, that is a total hoax.

00:50:43.000 All these books are available for people, you know, who are of age.

00:50:47.000 And in a truly decentralized model that enshrines decentralization and democracy, what would be important would be the principle rather than the subject.

00:50:57.000 So you would likely get schools that said, yeah, we want these type of books.

00:51:01.000 And if that were democratically agreed upon by the parents of those schools, you as President of the United States would say, sure!

00:51:10.000 Well, obviously, I think the President's role in K-12 education is incredibly limited.

00:51:16.000 These are things that are really bottom-up, school districts and states, and I think the proper recourse would be for parents on that local level to elect more people to the school board, Uh, so that they could, uh, change the curriculum in ways that they think are appropriate.

00:51:31.000 But, yeah, we will not be having a federal government imposed, uh, national K-12 curriculum.

00:51:37.000 Uh, first of all, I don't think that it would even work.

00:51:39.000 And second of all, I don't think the federal government has the affirmative authority to do that.

00:51:43.000 That's interesting because it seems increasingly what you're saying is from the office of president you would devolve power wherever possible and leave ideology to democracy.

00:51:53.000 Yeah, I would eliminate the Federal Department of Education if we can.

00:51:57.000 I don't think that the federal government was never envisioned to have really any role in K-12.

00:52:02.000 What they've tried to do is they've tried to use funding to force behaviors of k-12 districts, school districts. So for example on the

00:52:12.000 women's sports, you know, they say, you know, you have to have, if a man 1.00

00:52:16.000 identifies a woman, they have to be allowed to do women's sports, otherwise you lose lunch 1.00

00:52:20.000 money. So they've used that aggressively under the Biden administration to try to change behavior.

00:52:25.000 My view would be like, let's take education, send it back to the states, get the federal

00:52:29.000 government out. Yes, it's...

00:52:30.000 Is Oakland and in Berkeley, are they going to do it a way that I would like it?

00:52:34.000 No way they're going to do that.

00:52:35.000 But that would free up the vast majority of school districts, who probably would see it my way, to have the freedom to be able to institute sound policies.

00:52:45.000 Yeah man, democracy works.

00:52:46.000 Thank you, that's really interesting.

00:52:48.000 Now, what is evident, even after just this limited amount of time in your company, is that you are a competent orator, that you are a successful politician, that you are very appealing, that you've succeeded in Florida, and yet you have to deal with the spectre and the phantom, the gargoyle demagogue that is Donald Trump.

00:53:10.000 How do you, in your position, knowing that there is no pathway to the presidency via Donald Trump, that this is a phenomena and a fact that you're going to have to deal with, how do you confront his position in the polls?

00:53:21.000 And what would you do about some of the charges that Donald Trump is facing in the event that you were president?

00:53:27.000 And also, how does it personally feel as, you know, like just talking to you for a while, and clearly you and I would see a whole host of issues very differently, but It's pretty clear that you're a pretty potent political voice and figure and orator.

00:53:42.000 How do you deal with the sort of wild card of Donald Trump and what he represents to so many people?

00:53:49.000 Well, look, this is a campaign that's still very early on.

00:53:54.000 Most people are not paying attention over the summer.

00:53:56.000 They're doing things like being with their families, and they're enjoying themselves.

00:54:00.000 So we've been laying the groundwork in the early states.

00:54:02.000 The media will talk about polls, but they'll take a poll from the whole country.

00:54:06.000 That's not how the primary process works.

00:54:08.000 You do Iowa, then New Hampshire, then South Carolina.

00:54:11.000 So we're actually on the ground in those states doing the work that is not always kind of headline-grabbing, But it's really grassroots and we're building support.

00:54:19.000 So we're doing a good job.

00:54:21.000 We're going to continue to do more.

00:54:22.000 I think at the end of the day, looking forward, our voters, they want to win.

00:54:27.000 And so we need to beat Biden.

00:54:29.000 I will beat Biden.

00:54:31.000 And then they want somebody that's actually going to be able to deliver.

00:54:34.000 On all the things that we care about.

00:54:36.000 And you and I have talked about some of the issues.

00:54:38.000 We also have the border.

00:54:39.000 We also have a whole bunch of other things.

00:54:41.000 And I have a record in Florida.

00:54:42.000 When I tell you I'm going to do something, I do it.

00:54:44.000 I'm not just out there doing idle promises.

00:54:46.000 I know how many people run for office.

00:54:49.000 They over-promise and under-deliver.

00:54:51.000 Well, I think I'm one of the few where I made bold promises, no doubt, but I over-delivered on the promise.

00:54:58.000 And part of the reason I do it is because I'm a former military officer, so I'm disciplined.

00:55:04.000 I don't give the other side a lot of rope to hang me with.

00:55:08.000 I'm not shooting myself in the foot.

00:55:09.000 I'm focusing on the task at hand.

00:55:11.000 I'm focused, I'm disciplined, and it's all about accomplishing the mission.

00:55:16.000 And I think our voters are in a situation where increasingly they're saying, you know, that's what we have to do.

00:55:21.000 Also, the way the United States is with the two-term limit for president, Trump would be a one-term lame duck.

00:55:27.000 I could serve two terms.

00:55:29.000 So I'm in my 40s.

00:55:31.000 I would go in on day one.

00:55:32.000 I'd be incredibly energetic.

00:55:34.000 I would be very active.

00:55:36.000 You want to talk about the administrative state?

00:55:38.000 We would be able to slay the administrative state.

00:55:42.000 We'd secure the border.

00:55:43.000 We'd do all these things, and it would really be a flurry of activity.

00:55:47.000 So more and more people are going to see that.

00:55:48.000 We haven't even had debates yet.

00:55:50.000 And just keep an eye on those early states, because I like what I'm seeing there.

00:55:54.000 It's a little bit different on the ground than some of the stuff that gets put out Ron, you're dazzling.

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00:57:12.000 Okay, Rum, sorry, because I know you're running to be president, but, you know, HR is important.

00:57:16.000 I'm sure you'll agree.

00:57:18.000 How do you manage the tension when there is a plain appetite in your country for anti-establishment figures?

00:57:27.000 RFK becoming an emergent force in the Democrat Party, Trump having been the defining figure in the last five, six, seven years in American politics and American campaigns.

00:57:38.000 How do you deal with managing the tension of being a representative of establishment forces while acknowledging that many people no longer trust the media?

00:57:46.000 Many people no longer trust the government.

00:57:48.000 Many people are deeply cynical about American institutions.

00:57:52.000 How do you deal with the massive mistrust and neonialism of American cultural life?

00:57:57.000 Can we imagine a situation where whatever the result of the next presidential election The opposing side will likely say the election was stolen, it was because of Russians, it was because of broken or corrupt voting machines.

00:58:12.000 How can you ever bring together and justify a centralised American experiment, particularly when you seem to believe so strongly in decentralisation, federalism and maximum democracy?

00:58:25.000 How do you deal with this mistrust and this great appetite for outsiders?

00:58:30.000 Well, one, I would push back on this idea that I'm representing establishment forces.

00:58:37.000 I get attacked by the corporate press more than anybody running for office, more than Joe Biden, and now more than Donald Trump, because I think the corporate press views me as a bigger threat.

00:58:48.000 They understand that I will beat Biden, and they know I will actually deliver on all these things.

00:58:53.000 Whereas I think they think that Trump would not beat Biden, and then I think they think even if he did that he would be distracted with all these other stuff and wouldn't be able to deliver.

00:59:03.000 So I've been the target of all these people, and I think it's because I've been willing to lead.

00:59:08.000 Also, I would point out during COVID, I was the one fighting Fauci.

00:59:14.000 Donald Trump put Fauci in charge.

00:59:16.000 He never fired Fauci.

00:59:19.000 In fact, Donald Trump's last day in office, he gave Fauci a presidential commendation.

00:59:26.000 And I'm just thinking to myself, this guy had been responsible for justifying school closures, for justifying mandates, for justifying lockdowns.

00:59:36.000 And by January of 2021, we knew how destructive it was.

00:59:40.000 We knew it had failed.

00:59:42.000 So on the biggest hysterical issue, The biggest current thing where all these elites got together, COVID-19, I was one of the leaders throughout this world to stand against those people, fight back against them.

00:59:57.000 And so I think that the fact that I've been willing to do that, I mean, for example, I've got a grand jury Uh, hearing evidence in Florida about misrepresentations by pharmaceutical companies over COVID-19 jabs.

01:00:11.000 There's not another elected official in the country who's been willing to ask those types of questions.

01:00:18.000 We're doing it and we're getting answers for that.

01:00:21.000 So I think I present a great opportunity for people because I have all the right enemies.

01:00:27.000 You see it by how they're attacking me, but I also have a proven record of beating these people, and we would do the same thing as president.

01:00:36.000 Most powerful voices in the space that you currently occupy, Governor, have to be regarded as Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson.

01:00:45.000 Both of them have taken strong, over-explicit anti-war stances, saying, among other things, that the Pentagon can't pass an audit.

01:00:57.000 The money that American taxpayers are funneling into this Ukraine war that increasingly seems like a disaster, and a proxy war, ought be immediately ended.

01:01:08.000 The peaceful solution ought immediately be sought.

01:01:12.000 As a former military officer, where do you stand on this conflict, and are you willing to match that kind of anti-war rhetoric, and how do you reconcile The enormous revenue, the vast budgetary and treasury weight that this war and the military-industrial complex places on the American people generally, with the conditions that many former military personnel are enduring.

01:01:39.000 Many of them having to use food banks.

01:01:41.000 Many of them, like a significant number, ending up homeless.

01:01:45.000 A great stain on American culture, I would say, is the rhetoric that supports veterans and the shameful way in which they are treated.

01:01:52.000 What is your stance on this current conflict and would you end this war?

01:01:57.000 So one on the military industrial complex, we are actually going to overhaul how these retired generals are allowed to then just go work for defense contractors as commander in chief.

01:02:09.000 You can put restrictions on that.

01:02:11.000 You basically have a revolving door.

01:02:14.000 Uh, where people go from high military positions into just a handful of major, uh, defense contractors.

01:02:20.000 We're also gonna, uh, democratize the ability of people, because we obviously need to have a strong defense.

01:02:26.000 Uh, but we don't want it to go to just a handful of companies.

01:02:29.000 We used to have all these companies, like, during World War II.

01:02:32.000 Uh, so we want to do that, uh, for sure.

01:02:34.000 And we absolutely need an accounting to just do a blank check.

01:02:38.000 Uh, that doesn't serve the American people.

01:02:40.000 As in, when I was in Iraq, The thing that I noticed was, and this was 2007, so we were there fighting Al-Ambar province, Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

01:02:50.000 I was attached to Navy SEAL Team 1, and the mission was very murky.

01:02:55.000 Yeah, beat Al-Qaeda, but then create a democracy in the Middle East, in Iraq.

01:02:59.000 Well, we weren't able to do that.

01:03:01.000 And so you ended up being there for many years.

01:03:03.000 There was a lot of money spent.

01:03:05.000 There was no clear-cut victory.

01:03:06.000 Same with Afghanistan.

01:03:08.000 And I think what's happening in Ukraine is they're barreling towards a multi-year stalemate where a lot more people are going to die, where you're going to have a lot of treasure that's going to be spent for basically no change in outcome.

01:03:23.000 And so what I've said is we need to focus on achieving a sustainable peace in Europe We should not want to see this thing go on.

01:03:33.000 We have pressing problems at home that we're neglecting, as you mentioned, our own veterans.

01:03:38.000 We have an open border in the United States of America.

01:03:42.000 We have American families that are losing children to fentanyl overdose by the tens of thousands because we haven't secured our own border.

01:03:51.000 And yet what?

01:03:52.000 We've sent how many hundreds of billions of dollars there?

01:03:55.000 They're not sending that to us.

01:03:57.000 Also, I do think we have threats in this world, such as the Chinese Communist Party, which you've seen as the amount of ammunition and the amount of weapons that have been sent to the Ukraine has actually dwindled our own stocks, so that if we were potentially uh... in a major conflict we would not be able

01:04:18.000 uh... too likely to respond now donald trump

01:04:21.000 you know heads made different comments the other day he said he wanted that

01:04:24.000 flood the lindsey

01:04:25.000 but with weapons are not exactly sure you know where he is on that

01:04:29.000 uh... but i think the goal needs to be no blank check

01:04:32.000 and have a a sustainable peace in europe it doesn't serve our interests

01:04:37.000 uh... to be involved in this thing uh... infinite m as you have identified as an outsider and an anti-establishment

01:04:46.000 figure what are your views on two men that have perhaps done more

01:04:51.000 to reveal the deep corruption of the american experiment

01:04:55.000 Julian Assange, currently facing extradition to your country under the Espionage Act, and Edward Snowden, of course, currently in exile in Russia.

01:05:04.000 Do you think these men should be pardoned?

01:05:06.000 Do you think their status should be revised to that of heroes?

01:05:09.000 Or would you, similarly, persecute those individuals in the way that they currently are?

01:05:14.000 You know, it's interesting because I think this is an issue that was raised when Donald Trump took office.

01:05:20.000 And of course, we've seen a lot of abuse of power by the deep state during the Trump administration.

01:05:26.000 I know there were a lot of people that were counseling him to pursue relief on these two individuals, you know, and he didn't do it.

01:05:34.000 And I think he said that there was reasons why he didn't do it.

01:05:37.000 So I think when you're talking about using power under Article 2 for pardon, you really need to get all the information.

01:05:44.000 You got to look at the files and you got to see, okay, what is this all about?

01:05:48.000 But I am definitely convinced that a lot of those agencies have abused their power over the years.

01:05:54.000 I would not have probably said that as a young man, as a young military officer, because I was working with People in the intelligence and FBI in different capacities in my young professional life and I found everyone to be very professional.

01:06:09.000 I thought that these were very patriotic people, but I think what we've seen particularly over the last 10 years We've seen exposed a lot of abuse of power.

01:06:19.000 So there's a lot that needs to be done to rein all that in.

01:06:23.000 And so I would say I go into this stuff with much more skepticism about government's rationale for things than I probably would have 15 or 20 years ago.

01:06:34.000 Finally, Governor, your critics have noted that post January the 6th, a repressive anti-riot bill was passed that previously had failed, and even in the video promoting the bill, there were images of the Capitol breach alongside images of the George Floyd Black Lives Matter protests.

01:06:55.000 When we are talking about freedom, freedom of speech, freedom to protest, how do you reconcile that with the passing of this bill?

01:07:04.000 Well, it doesn't infringe on anyone's ability to protest.

01:07:07.000 That's protected.

01:07:08.000 That's First Amendment speech.

01:07:09.000 When that goes into violence, so for example, during the Floyd, you know, we saw a lot of violent activity.

01:07:15.000 And then the question is, is how do you deal with those folks?

01:07:18.000 So we all agree, you can protest, you can say whatever you want about me, about anybody else.

01:07:24.000 If it does go into violence, how are those folks treated?

01:07:26.000 And I think in a place like Portland, You'd have people riot, they'd be violent, they'd get arrested, they'd get slapped on the wrist, they'd go out and do it again.

01:07:35.000 Harassing police officers, doing things like that.

01:07:37.000 That's not conducive to a healthy society.

01:07:40.000 If you look at what happened with the BLM riots in Minneapolis, Minneapolis has still not recovered from that. 0.80

01:07:47.000 It is something that's likely going to take many, many years to be able to do.

01:07:51.000 And so I think we can all agree, yes, say what you want, it's a free country.

01:07:56.000 Don't attack police officers.

01:07:57.000 Don't throw Molotov cocktails.

01:07:59.000 Don't do any of that.

01:08:00.000 And I would note, as much as the corporate press has tried to demagogue our anti-riot bill, they've not actually found anybody who wasn't able to protest.

01:08:08.000 There's massive protests that take place in Florida about different issues almost every other day.

01:08:15.000 A lot of times there's messages that are done that I don't particularly agree with, but that's the way the world works.

01:08:21.000 People are free to express their mind.

01:08:23.000 But I do think if you let Uh, riots take over a city like they did during the BLM. 0.86

01:08:29.000 That has huge, huge impact.

01:08:31.000 And the thing about it was, with BLM, they were talking about racism, but a lot of the businesses that they were burning down were black-owned businesses.

01:08:40.000 And so you're ruining those people's lives?

01:08:43.000 Why?

01:08:43.000 That didn't do anything to solve any problems, and so we're very strong on that.

01:08:48.000 I had the National Guard called out in Florida during BLM because I didn't want to see any of our cities burnt down, and nobody did.

01:08:55.000 They did protest.

01:08:56.000 That's fine.

01:08:57.000 They protested in front of the governor's mansion, and they were saying a lot of nasty things.

01:09:02.000 I have young kids that were there hearing it, and that's fine, but definitely we got to draw the line at violence.

01:09:08.000 And so that bill struck the right balance.

01:09:11.000 And in fact, they have not been able to bring a successful challenge in the courts.

01:09:19.000 Thank you, Ron.

01:09:20.000 I appreciate you answering that question.

01:09:21.000 That's an excellent answer.

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01:10:41.000 Ron, thank you so much for joining us for this conversation.

01:10:46.000 It seems to me that your country is in the midst of an ideological reckoning, much like the one that you pledged would take place in the agencies around health in your country in the event In the event that you were to ascend to this position, what I find most heartening and interesting is your commitment to decentralization, your acceptance that free speech means the rights of the free speech of people that you oppose, the acknowledgement and recognition

01:11:15.000 that different communities will want to live life differently and it seems that decentralisation

01:11:21.000 and diversity to me live hand in hand.

01:11:25.000 I wonder what you feel in particular about the protests around January the 6th.

01:11:31.000 Do you think that they were insurrectionists as described?

01:11:35.000 Do you consider them to be protesters?

01:11:37.000 What do you think about the subsequent funding that the Capitol Police received and how the Democrat Party in particular has used these events to enact more power and to control media spaces?

01:11:50.000 Well, I think it's ridiculous how much money that they pumped in for the Capitol Police.

01:11:56.000 It was not an insurrection.

01:11:57.000 These are people that were there to attend a rally, and then they were there to protest.

01:12:02.000 Now, it devolved, and it devolved into a riot, but the idea that this was a plan to somehow overthrow the government of the United States is not true, and it's something that the media had spun up.

01:12:15.000 Just to try to basically, you know, get as much mileage out of it and use it for partisan and for political aims.

01:12:22.000 And so I know there were a lot of people that were there who were just there and they didn't have any designs on doing anything.

01:12:30.000 And so we just have to be honest about it.

01:12:32.000 If somebody is honestly doing an insurrection against the U.S.

01:12:36.000 government, then prove that that's the case, and I'll be happy to accept it.

01:12:40.000 But all you're showing me is that there were a lot of protesters there, and it ended up devolving, you know, in ways that was unfortunate, of course.

01:12:49.000 But to say that they were seditionists is just wrong.

01:12:52.000 Who's your favorite tech billionaire?

01:12:53.000 Is it Elon Musk?

01:12:54.000 Is it Mark Zuckerberg?

01:12:56.000 Do these figures have too much power?

01:12:59.000 Well, they do have too much power, but obviously I would take Elon because he's done Twitter and he's actually opened it up.

01:13:06.000 And if you think about how Twitter censored things like the Hunter Biden laptop story to try to interfere with the 2020 election, that would never happen under Elon.

01:13:15.000 So I think he understands the threats posed to a free society by woke ideology and by some of the other corporate consolidations of power.

01:13:24.000 He's obviously very rich himself.

01:13:27.000 Nevertheless, I'd like what he's done with Twitter and he even floated maybe buying CNN.

01:13:32.000 So hopefully if he did that, I bet you'd probably be a little bit more reasonable by my lights.

01:13:38.000 Ron DeSantis, I appreciate you taking the time to speak with us.

01:13:41.000 I'm going to be back in Florida soon.

01:13:43.000 I'd be grateful for the opportunity to meet with you and even interview you again in person if you would permit it.

01:13:49.000 Let us know, man.

01:13:49.000 It was great.

01:13:50.000 I appreciate it.

01:13:51.000 You asked really, really good questions, and I would not have gotten those questions with just kind of corporate journalists, so good.

01:13:59.000 I think you're actually talking about people, things that people care about.

01:14:03.000 Thank you, Rhonda Santis.

01:14:04.000 Thank you for your time and for your eloquence.

01:14:05.000 It's a great privilege to speak with you.

01:14:07.000 Thank you so much.

01:14:08.000 Thanks very much, mate.

01:14:10.000 Hey, listen, we've got a fantastic week coming up next week.

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01:14:30.000 in bringing people together, having conversations just like that one,

01:14:33.000 looking for opportunities for new alliances, trying to identify where the

01:14:37.000 establishment can meaningfully change and where voices from across the bipartisan divide are aligning with truth.

01:14:47.000 Let's have a look now at Joe Biden's temper.

01:14:51.000 One minute this guy's sniffing gently at the head of a child.

01:14:55.000 The next minute, is he sniffing at other substances?

01:14:58.000 What the hell are they finding in those White House toilets?

01:15:01.000 And what's going on with Joe Biden's temper?

01:15:04.000 Is this man on the brink of a meltdown?

01:15:06.000 Or is this just another PR campaign to make him more electable and somehow more dynamic?

01:15:12.000 Here's the news.

01:15:13.000 No, here's the effing news.

01:15:17.000 So what do you like about Joe Biden?

01:15:22.000 I know you will in the comments.

01:15:23.000 But at least he's a lovely, cuddly, soppy old granddad. 1.00

01:15:27.000 Not a vicious, swearing, old bastard. 1.00

01:15:30.000 Actually he is. 0.99

01:15:33.000 Now, remember when Joe Biden became president, what a lot of people in the mainstream media said was, oh, ain't it a relief, Joe Biden, he's so nice, he's so friendly, look at him.

01:15:41.000 In fact, he recently went on TV to say if anyone in his staff was found being rude or mean or obnoxious, I'll sack you on the spot.

01:15:48.000 Oh, no, it's not this.

01:15:49.000 I'll sack you on the spot. 1.00

01:15:50.000 You know, he's, like, really anti being, like, a little bit of a bastard. 0.99

01:15:53.000 Although in the 70s and 80s, he was plainly proper leery, all in beige, looking like a baddie from the A-Team, dispatching, like, abuse and stuff. 0.98

01:16:00.000 Well, apparently, The White House staff are all terrified of Joe Biden and have to team up into little gangs to soak up his vitriolic invective.

01:16:08.000 Let's have a look at CNN talking about Joe Biden the baddie.

01:16:12.000 And let me know this.

01:16:13.000 Why are CNN, a mainstream media propagandist unit, talking negatively about Joe Biden?

01:16:18.000 Is it because the Dems are ready to get rid of Biden and replace him with a new person that can stand up to the RFK threat, let alone the Trump, the Santis, whatever threat?

01:16:28.000 Or is it that they're trying to make him seem like he's a bad ass doddering?

01:16:31.000 Doddering's the last thing Joe Biden is.

01:16:33.000 A new report suggests that President Joe Biden is prone to yelling at White House aides behind closed doors and roping them in for angry interrogations.

01:16:41.000 Citing multiple administration officials, the account of Biden's interaction with staff clashes with the media's frequent characterizations of the president as a jovial grandpa that adores soft-serve ice cream and aviator sunglasses.

01:16:52.000 I love this guy.

01:16:53.000 He likes ice cream and sunglasses. 1.00

01:16:55.000 We're all scared of the old bastard. 1.00

01:16:57.000 Also, that's not a good, like, image for a president, is it? 1.00

01:17:00.000 And now, to lead the world's most powerful nation, this guy in sunglasses.

01:17:05.000 This is delicious!

01:17:07.000 We're wondering whether or not to have a proxy war with Russia.

01:17:09.000 Can I get strawberry?

01:17:12.000 Hidden from public view, Biden allegedly has such a quick-trigger temper that some White House aides try to avoid meeting him one-on-one.

01:17:19.000 Always a good sign.

01:17:20.000 Some take a colleague almost as a shield against a solo blast, according to a current and former Biden aide.

01:17:26.000 You have to use, like, Jason Bourne-style human shield tactics to go and talk to him.

01:17:30.000 But why?

01:17:31.000 Because in case ice cream gets spilled on you?

01:17:33.000 Biden's dressing down of staff often includes profane condemnation, including phrases such as... It's funny because they list his catchphrases.

01:17:40.000 God damn it, how the fuck don't you know this? 1.00

01:17:42.000 Don't fucking bullshit me and get the fuck out of it. 1.00

01:17:45.000 Here he is! 1.00

01:17:46.000 Your favorite ice cream-eating, friendly, sunglasses-wearing president with his catchphrases!

01:17:52.000 It's Joe Biden!

01:17:53.000 Hey! 1.00

01:17:54.000 Get the fuck out of here! 1.00

01:17:55.000 Don't bullshit me! 1.00

01:17:56.000 I'll fuck you down your C-pipe, you shit of a gun! 1.00

01:17:59.000 Instead of erratic tantrums, Biden's outbursts typically come in the form of angry interrogations. 1.00

01:18:04.000 That's weird because an erratic tantrum, that seems like more of a regular way that people respond to sort of endocrinal fluctuations and just the ordinary tempers and tempestuousness of life.

01:18:16.000 But angry interrogations?

01:18:17.000 That's like the Gestapo!

01:18:18.000 That's not something that fascists do, where he presses both senior and lower level until it becomes clear to others in the room they don't know the answers to a question.

01:18:25.000 Huh, I should be okay.

01:18:26.000 I'm quite a senior member of the staff.

01:18:28.000 I should be okay.

01:18:29.000 I've only worked here a couple of days. 1.00

01:18:31.000 Both you bastard sons of shit bitches are in the firing line! 1.00

01:18:35.000 Now get me some shit fuck ice cream, you pig dick! 1.00

01:18:39.000 I don't know where I'm gonna get shit fuck flavor. 1.00

01:18:41.000 Ben, Jerry, Haagen-Dazs, what do I do? 0.99

01:18:44.000 The tactic has become so frequent that staff have named it Stump the Chump.

01:18:48.000 I've actually tried to turn it into a quiz show to get through the trauma of it.

01:18:53.000 No one is safe.

01:18:54.000 One administration official said, well, Hunter Biden is pretty safe.

01:18:58.000 He's bombing about for all of the bathrooms.

01:19:00.000 His laptop's unreliable.

01:19:01.000 He's got a brilliant new job at Burisma.

01:19:03.000 He's doing fantastic.

01:19:04.000 Ted Kaufman, Biden's former chief of staff from his time in the Senate, said that Biden's meticulous approach to finding missing details in his briefs, I hope that doesn't mean his underpants, What the hell's missing from these guys? 1.00

01:19:16.000 I said why French you son of a bitch pig dick! 1.00

01:19:19.000 It's not meant to embarrass people, but rather to promote their decisions. 1.00

01:19:22.000 I'm wondering how to send another 55 billion dollars of American taxpayer aid to Ukraine. 1.00

01:19:27.000 Okay, to help you guys make a decision, you're a shit fuck you! 1.00

01:19:30.000 You're a pig dick! 1.00

01:19:31.000 Now get me some strawberry ice cream! 1.00

01:19:34.000 Hmm, I think we should send it.

01:19:35.000 Is the correct answer!

01:19:37.000 What kind of crazy quiz show is this?

01:19:39.000 Most people who have worked for him like the fact that he challenges them and gets them to a better decision.

01:19:44.000 I love it here! 0.99

01:19:45.000 When he calls me a shitfuck pig dick, it's the best day of my life! 1.00

01:19:48.000 What's going on in that white house? 1.00

01:19:50.000 I love working here!

01:19:51.000 When I arrived, my name was just Alex! 0.99

01:19:53.000 Now I'm called Pig Shitfuck Dick! 0.98

01:19:55.000 I love having a nickname! 0.99

01:19:57.000 We're one big happy family!

01:19:58.000 And the people that are actually in the family earn a fortune.

01:20:01.000 Aides that spoke for the report attempted to put a positive spin on the complicated portrayal of Biden as a leader. 0.99

01:20:07.000 It's not complicated, it sounds like a right bastard. 0.96

01:20:09.000 Noting that being yelled at by the president has become somewhat of an initiation ceremony for White House newbies. 0.98

01:20:15.000 It's not like a holy communion.

01:20:16.000 And now to welcome you to the White House.

01:20:19.000 Come in, come in. 0.70

01:20:20.000 What's your name?

01:20:21.000 Smells good. 1.00

01:20:22.000 Now get out of here you fuck shit pig bitch! 1.00

01:20:25.000 It's the happiest day of my life! 1.00

01:20:27.000 There's your ice cream. 1.00

01:20:28.000 Now fuck off. 1.00

01:20:29.000 If Biden doesn't yell at you, it could be a sign he doesn't respect you, the report proposes. 1.00

01:20:34.000 What kind of crazy social dynamics going on in this administration?

01:20:38.000 We're being yelled at as a sign of respect.

01:20:40.000 It doesn't make sense as a way to run a country.

01:20:42.000 Other aides claim that Biden's tendency to yell and incise is indicative of his high expectations.

01:20:48.000 This is propaganda and it's to make him out like, oh, he's one of the best, this guy.

01:20:51.000 Like when people say about Steve Jobs washing his feet in the toilet and think, oh, he must be a genius.

01:20:56.000 He invented the iPhone.

01:20:57.000 He didn't actually invent it, he marketed it.

01:20:59.000 But he washed his feet in the toilet! 1.00

01:21:00.000 I can wash my feet in the toilet, you shitfuck! 1.00

01:21:03.000 What's that on the back of the toilet? 1.00

01:21:04.000 Give me another minute! 1.00

01:21:05.000 Sometimes administration officials who are used to the overly descriptive speaking of elite schools... Now you may have learned a lot of fancy words at Harvard, like democracy and respect, but here you're gonna learn words like shit, fuck, and pig dick! 1.00

01:21:19.000 Now get me some ice cream, you shitfuck pig dick! 1.00

01:21:21.000 I've never felt more respected. 1.00

01:21:23.000 Sometimes administration officials who are used to the overly descriptive speaking of elite schools struggle to

01:21:28.000 begin speaking Biden.

01:21:30.000 I was trying to get him like he's some sort of blue collar street guy.

01:21:33.000 He's not a blue collar street guy. He's a career politician.

01:21:35.000 The special skill requires aides to ditch their wonky language.

01:21:38.000 Sir, we are deeply concerned that the counteroffensive against Russia is going badly.

01:21:42.000 LISTEN POINT DEXTER!

01:21:44.000 Speak to me in a language that I understand! 1.00

01:21:46.000 Get some motherfucking cluster bombs over there quick smart! 1.00

01:21:49.000 over there quick smart, bitch. 1.00

01:21:51.000 And speaks if they were talking to a close family member outside the DC bureaucratic bubble. 1.00

01:21:56.000 He can take years to learn to navigate his moodiness, fucking how long have you got? 0.89

01:22:00.000 He's been alive for 100,000 years and anticipate what information he's going to ask for in a briefing. 0.95

01:22:05.000 Sir, we're here to talk to you about economic decline, the decay of American cities

01:22:09.000 and the militarization of the police force.

01:22:11.000 Oh, you think so, do you point dexter? 0.97

01:22:13.000 You think so, do you, Pig-Dick?

01:22:14.000 Speaking with Axios, former Biden campaign and Senate aide Jeff Connaughton said Biden hides his sharper edge to promote his folksy Uncle Joe image, which is why when flashes of anger break through, it seems so out of public character. 0.91

01:22:27.000 Behind closed doors, he's prone to yelling.

01:22:30.000 It's much saltier language.

01:22:31.000 And he'll really angrily grill into his staff to the point that some staffers are actually a bit afraid to meet alone with the president.

01:22:40.000 Sometimes they'll bring in an extra person or two in order so that the firing line is a little bit distributed among several different staffers.

01:22:40.000 Really?

01:22:48.000 So we even talked to staff that went back to the early 2000s.

01:22:52.000 And the fact is that this is a guy that has been professionally staffed for more than half of his life.

01:22:57.000 It's a bit like when Joe Rogan talks about movie stars and the conduct of, say, Will Smith.

01:23:01.000 I don't know if you've seen Joe Rogan talk about that stuff.

01:23:03.000 Let me know in the comments.

01:23:04.000 He was getting away with it as if he was living in a fictional movie.

01:23:08.000 If you have a leadership class that are totally detached from reality, that don't have memories of growing up in normal communities, except for all them weird corn pop stories, We've had staff their whole life who don't know what it's like to be short of money, that don't know what it's like to suffer, to face serious... I know Joe Biden's had some serious stuff go down, he's lost children, he's had heavy stuff happen, but evidently this report shows that we have an elite establishment that are detached from our values and the way that we understand reality.

01:23:34.000 I've had money and I've not had money so I'm not claiming that I'm free from comparable dilemmas, but I'm saying this person is in charge of the country and a big part of his appeal was supposed to be this is a return to business as usual.

01:23:45.000 good old-fashioned American values as exemplified by good old friendly Uncle Joe.

01:23:49.000 You know he's really really tough on staff and he already had that as he calls you know

01:23:54.000 get his Irish up he already had that Irish temper. 0.61

01:23:56.000 We'll blame the whole of Ireland for this.

01:23:58.000 You know really lay into people and in some cases you know make them feel humiliated,

01:24:02.000 make them feel embarrassed and really feel like and truly be cussed out.

01:24:07.000 It's sort of quite astonishing the way that someone can be framed as an exemplifier of

01:24:13.000 traditional values of compassion and conviviality who just gave a speech about if you ever are

01:24:18.000 rude to staff it's...

01:24:19.000 It's astonishing, isn't it?

01:24:20.000 Let me know in the comments.

01:24:21.000 I'm not joking when I say this.

01:24:24.000 If you're ever working with me and I hear you treat another colleague with disrespect, talk down to someone, I promise you I will fire you on the spot.

01:24:32.000 That actually is in itself quite menacing.

01:24:34.000 I can believe that he's quite rude when he says that.

01:24:36.000 Because he's not going, look, guys, as a team, can we be sort of polite to one another?

01:24:41.000 Because, you know, we're meant to be running the whole country, so we've got to, in a way, demonstrate the values that we're claiming we want to define America.

01:24:48.000 He doesn't say that, does he?

01:24:49.000 He's gone a little bit Corn Pop about it.

01:24:51.000 If I hear you say anything, I will sack you on the spot, so as I will.

01:24:55.000 And then I'll give you the job back, because I forgot I sacked you.

01:24:58.000 Then I'll sack you again. 0.99

01:24:59.000 Then I'll see you the next day and forgot that I sacked you.

01:25:01.000 So help me God, Corn Pops. 0.97

01:25:03.000 And Corn Pop was a bad dude.

01:25:05.000 No ifs, ands, or buts.

01:25:08.000 Everybody, everybody, is entitled to be treated with decency and dignity.

01:25:13.000 That's been missing in a big way the last four years.

01:25:17.000 I suppose this is where the story becomes serious.

01:25:20.000 Many of the people that voted for Joe Biden, living or dead, I'm joking, I'm joking, voted for him because he was presented as a contrast to Trump.

01:25:28.000 Trump, a renegade, a radical, a person around whom there are accusations and allegations.

01:25:33.000 This is traditional morality.

01:25:35.000 The grown-ups, the adults are in the room, the serious career politicians, rather than the sort of radical billionaire outsider.

01:25:42.000 If indeed Joe Biden is behaving as these stories suggest, then he doesn't even have that point of difference.

01:25:48.000 The defining point of difference becomes irrelevant.

01:25:51.000 Doesn't that further demonstrate that it's the systems themselves that need to change?

01:25:55.000 That all individuals are flawed.

01:25:57.000 You, me, we're all flawed.

01:25:58.000 No one can make a claim of superiority, let alone supremacy. 0.99

01:26:02.000 And the truth is that what we've got as the President of the United States is a rude, crotchety, potentially senile, relatively inept, possibly corrupt man. 0.85

01:26:11.000 And that clip you just showed about the standard he was setting for his White House, I can tell you some former Biden administration aides don't think that he's lived up even to his own standard. 0.93

01:26:21.000 What is this story about?

01:26:23.000 Is it about usurping and replacing Joe Biden?

01:26:26.000 Is it about presenting a Joe Biden that has some dynamism to him?

01:26:29.000 Is it an attempt to create a character of Joe Biden?

01:26:32.000 Because this is, in a sense, the Phantom President.

01:26:34.000 During the campaign against Trump, the main strategy was to keep him hidden out of the way.

01:26:39.000 Now increasingly people are concerned about his ineptitude and frailty and you have the emergent, dynamic, exciting, charismatic force of RFK emerging in the Democrat party and becoming unusually popular without the support of gatekeeper organisations like CNN.

01:26:54.000 What do you think this strategy is about?

01:26:56.000 Let us know in the comments.

01:26:57.000 I mean, the political cynic in me wonders if this now makes him more attractive to voters.

01:27:04.000 Aha! 0.94

01:27:05.000 Away from the ways being perceived by some as sort of the friendly Uncle Joe.

01:27:12.000 Well, I need to have some consultancy around PR. 0.94

01:27:15.000 Let's present him as a doddery, near-dead, corrupt guy. 0.97

01:27:18.000 No, no, no! 0.99

01:27:19.000 How about this?

01:27:20.000 He's a friendly uncle who sniffs your hair.

01:27:22.000 No!

01:27:23.000 How about this?

01:27:23.000 He's an old guy who people are afraid to go in the room with.

01:27:26.000 Well, all of these strategies are brilliant.

01:27:28.000 How about a reliable, decent president with integrity?

01:27:31.000 Oh no, that doesn't work.

01:27:33.000 How has the White House received this?

01:27:35.000 They must be thrilled by your reporting.

01:27:38.000 I wouldn't say they were thrilled.

01:27:40.000 I would say there were a few advisors in the White House that I think part of the reason they may have talked to me is because they thought it wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing in the world.

01:27:48.000 God, it's propaganda.

01:27:49.000 Did you guess it?

01:27:50.000 Did you guess it?

01:27:51.000 Wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing in the world if this side of him got out a little bit.

01:27:55.000 That's what I was wondering.

01:27:56.000 Exactly.

01:27:57.000 I mean, I think some people were like, you think he's senile.

01:28:00.000 Let me tell you.

01:28:01.000 You think he's senile?

01:28:02.000 Let me tell you. 1.00

01:28:03.000 He's an absolute bastard! 1.00

01:28:05.000 Probably. 1.00

01:28:05.000 Senile? 1.00

01:28:06.000 Bastard? 0.98

01:28:07.000 Definitely. 1.00

01:28:07.000 Corrupt? 1.00

01:28:08.000 It looks like it.

01:28:09.000 Four more years!

01:28:10.000 Four more years!

01:28:12.000 You know, sort of that thing.

01:28:13.000 Like, I just got cussed out behind closed doors for, you know, 10, 15 minutes for messing up this little small thing in a briefing.

01:28:20.000 I think this is an attempt, an extraordinary PR attempt to package Joe Biden instead of some decaying, decrepit, Methuselah figure falling apart at the seams held together only by a tradition and Democratic Party corruption and a kind of hierarchical legacy ideology where everyone gets their turn no matter how much the public hates them.

01:28:42.000 They're trying to make out that behind the scenes is some sort of Ice Cube individual That's so street, raw, and for real.

01:28:49.000 He doesn't pretend to be some salivating, doddering, hair-sniffing stooge of the establishment.

01:28:54.000 But behind the scenes, he's Batman, baby. 1.00

01:28:57.000 Oh, you better put aside your Harvard, Yale, Ivy League bullshit. 0.99

01:29:01.000 Uncle Joe's coming to town. 1.00

01:29:03.000 Is this my ice cream?

01:29:05.000 What flavor is this? 1.00

01:29:06.000 Don't smell a pig dick. 1.00

01:29:07.000 I need a child's head as a sorbet. 1.00

01:29:09.000 So there you have it.

01:29:10.000 What is this story?

01:29:11.000 A revelation that Joe Biden, in addition to being somewhat senile, is also somewhat unpleasant?

01:29:16.000 Or is it an attempt to repackage him as some priapic, from the street, Wu-Tang Clan president who people can't handle? 0.97

01:29:24.000 Not because he's old and doddering and inept, no, but because he's so bloody powerful, radical and renegade.

01:29:30.000 I think that really what it shows you is that the The political system broadly are completely out of ideas. 0.82

01:29:35.000 They're beginning to recognise that populist figures who don't play by the rules are starting to reach people in new, novel and exciting ways that they cannot combat, most notably Trump, of course, and now emerging within their own establishment party, RFK. 0.97

01:29:49.000 And in some bizarre panic, they're trying to portray Joe Biden as some sort of Rocky Balboa of politics, when in fact he's just another career politician, corrupt, hypocritical and failing. 0.96

01:29:59.000 But that's just what I think. 0.99

01:30:01.000 Until next time.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - July 21, 2023

RON DESANTIS & RUSSELL BRAND: Taking On TRUMP, FAUCI and The WAR IN UKRAINE - Stay Free #173

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