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00:00:52.000Fear not, for God is real and you live in but a fragment of reality.
00:00:56.000That is what we are awakening to, the sensory illusion of completeness provided through the instruments of the senses and the great power that lurks within you.
00:01:06.000Probably down by your belly button or your groin, somewhere like that.
00:01:09.000If you're watching us on YouTube, the first 15 minutes will be available before we slip off into our sweet home, Rumble, where we're free to speak openly and plainly, to bring people together in a glorious celebration of love.
00:01:24.000Not like in the dystopian future that your overlords are planning for you even now, where a chrome ball will float into the centre of your vision.
00:01:31.000Scan you up and down the iris in exchange for a crypto token.
00:01:56.000And when we're exclusively on Rumble, that's one of the things we'll be talking about because new data has revealed from Squatland, that's how they talk up there, that we were told many a lockdown lie.
00:03:01.000He represented the FBI intruding into your private affairs.
00:03:05.000He represented the Hunter Biden laptop being kept out of the news even though they knew it was true.
00:03:11.000He represented mind management, that our attention now has become a commodity, that knowledge, that awareness itself is regarded as little more than a resource by the powerful elites that would herd you into paddocks of ignorance where we would liberate you into the great pastures and plains of sweet lady freedom.
00:03:30.000I think that's what we're trying to do.
00:03:31.000So Elon Musk says if you're punished by an employer, let us know if you've been punished by an employer, you could be in line for a Community Action Trust reward.
00:03:40.000That's not my words, that's Crime Watch, a British show from the 1980s.
00:04:29.000Also, though, there's a new world coin out now.
00:04:30.000Do you remember when cryptocurrencies were bad?
00:04:32.000Well, that was when the government couldn't control them and use them to capture data that they suck straight out of your eyeballs.
00:04:39.000Before you know it, your eye will be bouncing on your cheekbone, your optic nerve hanging like a suspender belt, while all of your information is sucked out of your cerebellum.
00:04:49.000Because that's what's going to happen.
00:04:51.000Let's have a look at these new eyehole-sucking chrome balls and ask yourself, Do they put conspiracy theories out there that are so outlandish that when the truth actually happens, you're like, oh, this is not as bad.
00:05:02.000For example, and I know some of you lot are out there.
00:05:04.000I know you are, because we read your comments.
00:05:06.000We read your crazy comments, you beauties.
00:05:08.000If you're watching this on Rumble, click the red button now and join us on Locals.
00:05:11.000But you know when people say stuff like nanotechnology in particular medications, right?
00:05:16.000And you think, oh, come on, that's going to be expensive to do that at scale.
00:05:20.000But well, where we are now is a chrome bull is going to suck information out of your Out of like what people in prison would call your extra orifice.
00:07:26.000What kind of society are we living in where a robot can come up to me in the street and ask me how human I am when it itself is just an uprooted headlight floating in space?
00:07:36.000You know in the latter Star Wars movies where R2-D2 instead became that sort of two balls rolling around guy?
00:07:44.000I didn't like him as well because it was clear they went oh look it's a bit like r2d2 but not as good or cute or anything and can't have a small person in there operating it's just a couple of magno balls even though the toy version of it was quite bba i'm being told uh like the toy version of it was quite good right but you know you could have a remote control one maybe And you can't have a remote control R2-D2.
00:08:04.000Because he's just gonna have wheels underneath him, he's not gonna be able to go anywhere.
00:08:07.000C-3PO, there's a lot of tension between those guys.
00:08:10.000Anyhow, like, what I will say is this guy is just an advance on that.
00:08:14.000And instead of helping out once in a while like R2-D2 did, conveying perhaps Princess Leia's ransom message, saying that, you know, Luke's her only hope, what's this guy doing?
00:08:22.000Just sucking information out of your eye hole with his mind?
00:08:58.000Yeah, well, I mean, if Elon Musk is to believe, trapped GPT and open AI is going to eliminate a section of society when it comes to jobs.
00:09:05.000And now, the other, his other new invention, this, you know, whatever you're going to call it, this orb is going to give all your information to the government.
00:09:14.000So, it doesn't seem like all that positive.
00:09:16.000To undermine it, I'm going to call it Roy Orbison, and I'm going to demand that it joins the band Travelling Wilbur East.
00:10:00.000It's a chrome ball sucking information out of your eye hole, giving it to the government and giving you 50 space bucks in exchange, but now it's tracking you and it'll be able to switch off your bank account down the line.
00:10:11.000There couldn't be anything less authentic than what your relationship with the government is meant to be, other than a giant metallic orb that sucks all your data out of it and gives it to them.
00:10:22.000When I think of authenticity, immediately one thing comes to mind.
00:10:26.000It's not sovereignty, it's not personal freedom, it's not communities rising up together to support one another in harmony with nature.
00:10:33.000It's this miracle sucking information out from under your eyebrow.
00:10:42.000Cheeky theme tune it's got, like it's Mario Brothers.
00:10:47.000What this commercial fails to mention is the biometric data that is then collected in exchange for a... Yeah, also we'll be taking your biometric data.
00:11:13.000Some of those orbs found in Nairobi, Kenya, where authorities are now scrambling to suspend operations, saying there are too many unknowns.
00:11:27.000This is extraordinary because if you think of the grammar of news that people that grew up in the 80s are used to, like these are sort of stories of philanthropy in the continent of Africa, measures undertaken to apparently intervene benignly in civil wars or to help in famines.
00:11:43.000Now, data People in Kenya queuing up to receive food tokens, tokens at any rate, in exchange for their data so that this scheme can be piloted so they can bring it to apparently more, you know, apparently more, I don't want to say evolved, but technologically advanced, I suppose appropriate term, societies.
00:12:04.000They're piloting this so they can do it to all of us.
00:13:52.000Hey, listen, if you're watching this on YouTube, we're going to depart now because there's yet more dystopic revelations to convey, this time concerning your precipitations and your foresight around the Covid lockdowns.
00:14:05.000The Scottish of all people, those pioneers in the world of finance, caber tossing, haggis and golf, have finally revealed to us that lockdowns may have been... Allegedly!
00:15:25.000Wait a minute, he's joined a marionette band of theatrical pirates.
00:15:30.000All of a sudden, he's living an illusory life.
00:15:32.000In order to become real, you have to suffer.
00:15:35.000In order to rescue the father from the belly of the beast, the father, the man that you will become when you liberate yourself from the artificial puppet person that you initially are, you have to wrestle with the beast down in depth, same as Jonah.
00:15:47.000Anyway... Sounds a lot like the plot to my bookie book.
00:16:06.000Hey diddly dee, an actor's life for me!
00:16:10.000Those were the days, simpler times in a way.
00:16:12.000So obviously me and JP started flirting and one of the things that got said was that sex itself was not, like the procreation prior to sex was done by sort of, I don't know, like amoeba or something splitting up or that there are some kind of lizards that can procreate.
00:16:29.000I'm glad you got into the science of it.
00:17:02.000I then back-referenced that when he said that identity politics was too dependent on sex and sexuality, that that's not the most important aspect of your identity, and why would you bolt your identity onto that?
00:17:46.000So, hey, listen, you know, remember Covid lockdowns when you were all locked down in your house and sometimes you might find yourself doing what you were told and that, and you don't like being told what to do and then actually doing it.
00:17:57.000Like, you should think, if someone tells you what to do, just don't do it.
00:18:21.000So like, yeah, I do encourage the disobedience because I believe in personal freedom and autonomy and I'm suspicious of many rules and much of the kind of authority that we're supposed to obey these days and it turns out I'm right to do that because there was no evidence to support Covid lockdowns in Scotland during the pandemic.
00:18:43.000There's a new report that's in the Scottish Express which is what they have instead of newspapers up there.
00:19:00.000So this was, apparently, there's a Covid inquiry going on in Scotland at the moment and some of the findings are that there was insufficient or no evidence to suggest lockdown, social distancing or face masks.
00:20:51.000She said, like, oh, the thing was with the vaccines, they were very good for the first round of Covid, but they, yeah, they ran out of puff.
00:20:59.000she essentially said that they were basically they were getting out they were 100 effective but we know that there are emails between her involving uh and the cdc saying oh no they're not saying we know breakthrough cases i.e we know that people who have had the vaccination are still getting covered We did a great presentation on that.
00:21:20.000Also, what about when Albert Baller, wish he was a bit taller, CEO of Pfizer, when he was on the news getting noshed off by a panel of women, sort of all going, oh, you've done so well with this vaccine.
00:21:33.000He goes, now you were hoping it might be 80% effective, but how effective was it?
00:21:38.000And he goes, I think it was 96% effective.
00:21:46.000No, I think, look, I think with all these... You might as well have done nothing.
00:21:49.000I don't think that's like strictly, strictly true because I think a lot of people obviously say that for certain age groups the vaccines at certain times are extremely effective and continue to be so.
00:23:17.000Could the recent UFO testimony being entertained by Congress have anything to do with increased military spending?
00:23:22.000You told us that you were suspicious and cynical about these UFO findings.
00:23:27.000We've had Jeffrey Korbel, sorry, he's my friend, Jeremy Korbel, we've had him on here numerous times, revealing, and we've had old David Grush.
00:24:19.000We're of course looking at the UFO hearings, we're examining whether or not there are non-human entities among us, whether or not there are recovered extraterrestrial spacecraft, and why, as usual, you were right that this is being used to generate extra military expenditure without ever really acknowledging the deep reality suggested by these whistleblowers revelations.
00:24:41.000Starting off with this tweet from the Empire Files, hmm, wonder if all the UFO stuff suddenly being entertained by Washington has anything to do with this.
00:24:48.000US Space Force budget hits 30 billion dollars in 2024 proposal.
00:24:53.000That sounds like the government to try and use a cultural or public phenomena to generate more revenue for Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.
00:24:59.000There are extra and they come here in peace.
00:25:03.000That's why we've asked Lockheed Martin to build these new deadly fucking things.
00:25:08.000President Biden's $842 billion budget request for the Defense Department for fiscal year 2024
00:25:14.000includes $30 billion for the US Space Force, the largest funding request to date
00:25:36.000This is a sort of miracle akin to the kind of revelations that you would read in scripture.
00:25:40.000There are pervasive intercosmic consciousnesses communicating with us.
00:25:45.000Potentially this has been happening throughout civilization.
00:25:48.000Maybe the reason there are gaps in our observable evolution is because for a long time we've been communing with advanced species that perhaps have We've even been involved in our advancing civilization.
00:26:00.000Perhaps some of the phenomena we discuss in scripture, religion, in temples and synagogues around the world relates to these heavenly beings, these orbs in the sky, these chariots of fire.
00:26:10.000So, I've spoken to Raytheon, and we're gonna blow those motherfuckers right out of the sky.
00:26:14.000The proposed budget procures and modernizes capabilities to secure the use of space in the face of increasing threats to US national security space systems, the Pentagon said in budget document.
00:26:25.000So while this is a very novel story, I mean for someone my age it's almost ridiculous that in public there are congressional hearings in those rooms that we're familiar with now from like McCarthyism and mob hearings where people are discussing people from outer space.
00:26:49.000There are advanced extraterrestrial beings.
00:26:51.000Because another interpretation could be, well, what the hell are we having a war between Ukraine and Russia for if there are extraterrestrial beings?
00:27:10.000Clearly a massive and defining culture like American culture is falling apart right now.
00:27:15.000There's no reason to have centralised systems in the way that we do.
00:27:19.000What we perhaps could advance are new ways of living, new ways of worshipping together, new ways of affording one another the maximum amount of freedom in the face of the revelation that here in the universe We are not alone that the infringements and fractures between us don't amount to a great deal when you consider that there are presumably powerful civilizations that could wipe us out like that.
00:27:39.000Let's get on with the business of using diplomacy and peacemaking as the modalities of our time.
00:27:45.000No, instead of that, let's prepare for more war against people with big eyes and grey faces.
00:27:50.000I hate those grey-faced bastards flying around like that.
00:27:53.000Ignore the rules of gravity, would you?
00:27:57.000So with all these UFO whistleblowers, some of them from pretty respected positions within the deep state, how have the Pentagon reacted?
00:28:03.000What's their re-evaluation of the new reality that we find ourselves living in?
00:28:07.000The head of the Pentagon's UFO office has slammed last week's shocking congressional hearing in which three whistleblowers claimed they had first-hand encounters or knowledge about secret government programs involving technology that is non-human.
00:28:19.000Firstly, why have you even got a UFO office if you don't think there's such a thing as UFOs?
00:28:23.000What are you doing in that UFO office?
00:28:38.000Why have a UFO office if you don't think there are such things as UFOs?
00:28:42.000How could there be non-human technology?
00:28:44.000All day long in the UFO office, we laugh and laugh about the ridiculousness of that.
00:28:49.000Next door in the crocodile office, they're astonished about events in Florida where people claim there are weird, big, jagged-toothed lizard things biting people on the toes.
00:29:00.000Sean Kilpatrick issued a statement Friday denying some of the witnesses' claims.
00:29:04.000David Grush, a former top intelligence official, testified that in his role liaising with Kilpatrick's office on UFOs, he discovered the government was keeping crashed non-human spacecraft secret from the public and illegally from Congress.
00:29:19.000As a distraction from criminality within government, from ludicrous jumped up charges and bizarre hearings, from FBI deep state corruption.
00:29:27.000Perhaps it's being used in all of these ways.
00:29:29.000But one thing that the Pentagon are not doing is admitting that it's plausible and true.
00:29:34.000So remember those of you that sort of just automatically, if they say UFOs are real, UFOs are not real.
00:29:39.000Remember, it could be a bit more complex than that.
00:29:40.000But in his statement, Kilpatrick called the testimony insulting.
00:30:38.000I can't just disavow David Grush just because he says there's UFOs in the UFO office.
00:30:44.000The claims directly contradict Grushy's previous description of his government roles, vetted by both the House Oversight Committee and media, that he served as the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency lead on UFOs reporting to AARO until April this year.
00:30:58.000Kilpatrick, who claims that at the UFO office they never talk about UFOs and don't acknowledge UFOs, is also lying about Grushy's role, saying he was nothing to do with it.
00:31:06.000Because the oversight committee have already vetted the claims and found them to be plausible, reasonable and true and that the matter should be addressed with some urgency.
00:31:13.000Kilpatrick's talking about David Grush like he was an ex-girlfriend.
00:31:38.000And you better believe I'm ready to mingle, David Grush!
00:31:41.000Although not with UFOs, because they ain't real.
00:31:43.000In a personal statement on his LinkedIn page, slammed the hearing, saying he was deeply disappointed at the denigration of civil and defence staff.
00:31:50.000He's an emotional lunatic, Kilpatrick, isn't he?
00:31:53.000You never even worked here, David Grush!
00:32:00.000I cannot let yesterday's hearing pass without sharing how insulting it was to the officers of the Department of Defence and Intelligence Community, he wrote.
00:32:07.000Guys running on pure emotion, working in the UFO office, denying the existence of UFOs and treating former employees like they're lovers that jilted him at the altar.
00:32:17.000Among Grushy's eye-popping claims at Wednesday's hearing were suggestions the government may have been involved in murder while covering up its alleged UFO secrets.
00:32:25.000So it's quite serious stuff being alleged here.
00:32:27.000Grush told lawmakers that he was scared for his own life after becoming a whistleblower.
00:32:31.000Well, we all know that whistleblowers are generally treated with a good deal of respect and don't end up regularly homeless and vilified in the mainstream media.
00:32:41.000Let's have a look at some of those congressional hearings.
00:32:42.000We begin with that historic UFO hearing on Capitol Hill today, as we just said, the bipartisan push for transparency.
00:33:13.000...in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program.
00:33:21.000There, uh, the controller told us that these objects, uh, had been observed for over two weeks, coming down from over 80,000 feet, rapidly descending to 20,000 feet, hanging out for hours, and then going straight back up.
00:33:32.000For those who don't realize, above 80,000 feet is space.
00:33:36.000Tick-tack was far beyond current tech.
00:33:37.000Oh, they don't mean ordinary tick-tacks.
00:34:28.000Or also, we could spy on everyone, say everyone's a bastard and make everyone fight all the time, and create a climate of hatred, surveillance, and censorship.
00:34:38.000Oh, yeah, that's also possible, I suppose.
00:34:39.000So we should be surprised that the UFO phenomena, like there's lights in the sky, there's dizzying technology, this means that our interpretation of what God is, what profits are, what life, biology, chemistry, the most rudimentary understanding of the universe has to be re-evaluated, which we already know from quantum physics, all of the things that we consider to be static amounts a little more than local.
00:34:58.000local customs in our particular dimension on our particular plane of reality. This is
00:35:02.000just obviously evidence of that. Instead of recognising that what we have here is an opportunity
00:35:06.000to re-evaluate our philosophy and our approach to life at a time when it's bloody needed
00:35:09.000because there's wars and fracture all over the place.
00:35:12.000Instead it's just like, can we use this to keep our existing system going and in fact yet
00:35:16.000more profitable for the very people and institutions that have proven to be utterly
00:35:20.000corrupt. Yeah, I suppose we could say that these intergalactic beings are kinda like Putins.
00:35:32.000All four of us, because we were in F-18Fs, so we had pilots and Wizzo in the back seat, looked down a small, saw a white tic-tac object with a longitudinal axis pointing north-south and moving very abruptly over the water like a ping-pong ball.
00:35:51.000As we started clockwise towards the object, my wizard and I decided to go down and take a closer look at the other aircraft staying in high cover to observe both us and the TIC-TAC.
00:35:58.000We proceeded around the circle about 90 degrees from the start of our descent, and the object suddenly shifted its longitudinal axis, aligned it with my aircraft, and began to climb.
00:36:09.000We consumed 270 degrees, and we went nose low to where the TIC-TAC would have been.
00:36:15.000Our altitude at this point was about 15,000 feet, and the TIC-TAC was about 12,000.
00:36:54.000There's lots of spacecraft that was just little circles like Cheerios, but every so often there was like a pink one or a green one, and those ones were sweeter.
00:37:01.000Our wingmen, roughly 8,000 feet above us, lost contact also.
00:37:05.000We immediately turned back to see where the white water was at, and it was gone also.
00:37:09.000So as you started to turn back towards the east, the controller came up and said, sir, you're not going to believe this, but that thing is at your cat point, roughly 60 miles away in less than a minute.
00:37:16.000I bit the end off of it, and then inside it was a delicious cream, and I sucked it out of it.
00:37:22.000During a training mission in Warning Area Whiskey 72, 10 miles off the coast of Virginia Beach, two F-18 Super Hornets were split by a UAP.
00:37:31.000The object, described as a dark grey or black cube inside of a clear sphere, came within 50 feet of the lead aircraft.
00:37:37.000At least he's describing things in more of a scientific way.
00:37:43.000Not like, it's like a bag of potato chips in there, but you could pour your own, but... They're making it like childhood nostalgia snacks.
00:37:50.000I think I don't have to ever describe alien corpses.
00:37:53.000There's a lot like Big Bird, Thick Lung, Yellow Feathers, and then there's one like Mr. Snuffleupagus.
00:37:57.000Two of them, even though they were the same gender, lived together, and it made me think, you know, maybe, like, uh, that we could all just live together regardless of what sex we are.
00:38:05.000Are you describing Sesame Street right now?
00:38:07.000No, no, I remember them saying out the window, can you tell me how to get- No, no, no, you're sorry, that was Sesame Street.
00:38:12.000It was estimated to be 5 to 15 feet in diameter.
00:38:16.000The mission commander terminated the flight immediately and returned base.
00:38:19.000Our squadron submitted a safety report, but there was no official acknowledgement of the incident and no further mechanism to report the sightings.
00:38:26.000Soon these encounters became so frequent that aircrew would discuss the risk of UAP
00:38:30.000as part of their regular pre-flight briefs.
00:38:32.000Well that's pretty amazing, it just became ordinary and acceptable.
00:38:35.000So look, I know loads of you think this is a distraction and in a way I agree with you,
00:38:39.000and I know that those of you knew that this would be used to leverage greater budgets
00:38:44.000and plainly you're right about that because that is what's happening.
00:38:46.000But I also think you have to remain open to the possibility that this is real just on the ordinary basis that we are in a limitless expanse of space and we only understand reality through our own sensory instruments and the magnification of our own sensory instruments and it's entirely possible that there are entities that are interdimensionally distinct from us and these descriptions are the kind of things that were kept out of the public eye for a long time for a reason because the natural questions to start asking yourself are ontological ones about the nature of being.
00:39:13.000Wait a minute, if we're not alone in the universe What is the veracity of all of our existing power structures?
00:39:28.000What it exposes is the capriciousness of culture.
00:39:31.000That culture is not arbitrary, because it's evolved based on principles that are as close to universal as we might be able to conceptualise and understand.
00:39:39.000But we should be willing to re-evaluate things that are not working.
00:39:43.000Are there things that are not working?
00:39:44.000Yeah, we seem to be in this sort of mad ongoing culture war.
00:39:47.000People want to censor us and surveil us.
00:39:49.000People have been turned against each other.
00:40:12.000It makes you wonder, it makes you wonder if, you know, maybe I could eat an onion-y sandwich with some bologna or whatever and then straight away eat a Tic Tac after that and carry on with my day.
00:40:20.000The majority of witnesses are commercial pilots at majority major airlines.
00:40:25.000Often they are veterans with decades of flying experience.
00:40:28.000Pilots are reporting UAP at altitudes that appear above them at 40,000 feet, potentially in low Earth orbit or in the gray zone below the Karman line.
00:40:35.000This guy, they should have put him on first, because he's really taking all the joy out of it.
00:40:38.000He's making it sort of boring, isn't he?
00:40:40.000One guy makes it boring, the other one makes it ridiculous.
00:40:42.000Like, one turns him into sort of snacks from yesteryear.
00:40:45.000The other one makes it so mathematical, I'm sort of switching off.
00:40:48.000Making inexplicable maneuvers like right-hand turns and retrograde orbits or J-hooks.
00:40:53.000If everyone could see the sensor and video data I witnessed, our national conversation would change.
00:40:58.000He's basically saying this is what you want from any witness really.
00:41:01.000If you knew what I have seen then you would regard reality entirely differently.
00:41:05.000What's masterful about the way this is being conceptualized, framed and contained is we're keeping it to a sort of a debate around mechanics and technology and public defense and national security when really what we've been invited to do is to push beyond our understanding of reality.
00:41:20.000And that's obviously what's required at the most basic level.
00:41:22.000If you want to change the world you can't go We're going to change the world, but only like this.
00:41:26.000That's what contemporary politics offers you.
00:41:27.000You can have this one or this one, and the undergirding remains unaltered.
00:41:31.000What a story like this could do is invite us to go, hang on a minute, everything's different from how we thought it was, so should we start looking at how we might differently organise society?
00:41:40.000The answer to that is, of course, yes.
00:41:42.000I urge us to put aside stigma and address the security and safety issue this topic represents.
00:41:46.000If UAP are foreign drones, it is an urgent national security problem.
00:41:50.000If it is something else, it is an issue for science.
00:42:32.000It's by its nature beyond our conception, beyond our understanding.
00:42:35.000But that's precisely where we need to go.
00:42:37.000So this is of course a matter for science, but it's also a matter for philosophy.
00:42:40.000And I mean that on an individual level.
00:42:41.000Because what I believe in is that your individual freedom and your individual understanding is what influences the flow of world power.
00:42:47.000Not currently with the institutions that we have and the structures that we have, but with the introduction of information like this, it invites us to view reality differently.
00:42:56.000New individual power, new community power, a new understanding of the way that we view the most immersive and ubiquitous structures could change.
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00:44:43.000Football is nice. Hello and welcome to football is nice with Russell Brand and Gareth Roy.
00:44:55.000We've got Mark Goldbridge on the show a little bit later, host of the Manchester United YouTube channel, The United Stand.
00:45:02.000We're going to be looking at him becoming increasingly enraged as Manchester United fail to materialise, nearly materialise, dematerialise.
00:45:10.000They're an ontological entity that are even beyond Physics at times.
00:50:11.000I'm just trying to think of when we get, like, you know, we have had, from Jimmy Greaves to Ian Wright to Liam Brady, like, we've had post-Clive Allen, like, we've had post-Peake stars.
00:50:23.000throughout our history. But it's always better when it's like, when I think of the great players like Payet, Affine,
00:50:30.000you know, the Caño, and even more latterly the likes of Jarrod, Antonio.
00:50:35.000I guess it's like, what does it suggest your club is? As in, is it finding, as you say, players from around the globe
00:50:43.000that kind of, you know, would suggest that you have a great scouting network?
00:50:47.000Or is it plucky, great players for the Championship?
00:50:59.000But this is what I worry about is the pathology of Moyes.
00:51:01.000I feel like David Moyes, because of his own wounding at United, might sort of think, I can like take over poor wounded souls from Man U. And these are all things we can talk to Mark Goldbridge about because he's an expert in all of these players.
00:51:16.000So we'll talk about that a little bit.
00:51:19.000Mate, what do you want to talk about in your podcast?
00:51:23.000It seems like we've got a new title sequence from Bad Graphics Jack, as well as a host of topics to talk about.
00:51:33.000Shall we have a look at Bad Graphics Jack?
00:51:50.000Donald Trump, this in American football news, Donald Trump is supported by entirely by Wayne Rooney's at different embryonic phases yes there's late Rooney to Trump's left there's classic current Rooney immediately to the right of Trump and then there's the thinking man's Rooney just at the edge of frame there and also Munch's scream just above Trump's shoulder there as a sort of a nice addition that's a bold courtroom artist right there it is that's a
00:52:25.000Absolutely captured you that isn't it mate?
00:52:27.000Yeah well Rooney is interesting isn't he?
00:52:29.000Because he's doing, he's managing apparently very well at the moment with his big beard.
00:52:37.000I think it's America or Canada that he's at and apparently doing very well.
00:52:40.000Aren't people worried that Saudi Arabia's transfer window stays open too long and Premier League players are going to get hoovered out in the hundredth minute, the 115th minute of play, you'll suddenly see Mo Salah galloping off to Saudi?
00:52:56.000Because they're similarly unable, or DC United it is with Rooney, Yeah, they're seemingly unable to do anything about it.
00:53:03.000I mean, Liverpool's reading that Klopp wanted to keep Henderson, but just the lure of that money was just too much, you know.
00:53:12.000People were ever so upset about Henderson, weren't they?
00:53:14.000The thing is, with glorious money, Is there you can sort of persuade yourself almost anything like like sort of Jordan Anderson would have gone from being an avid supporter of LGBTQ plus issues in the World Cup to thinking that is so much money I'm not ever gonna have to do anything again and like we sort of say oh come on mate you're getting a lot of money anyway but
00:54:14.000David Foster Wallace, he goes, like when talking about John McCann's incarceration subsequent to his capture in Vietnam, that of course his plane crashed in a swamp, he was captured by Viet Cong, had his arms broken, was stabbed with a bayonet in the groin, and then when he was taken to the prisoner of war camp, he was offered early release because they found out that he was a high up, and indeed his relatives in the McCann family were like part of the Admiralty.
00:54:59.000Anyway, like when it came to the release, they wanted to release him as part of a bargaining deal because they thought they'd get more loads of prisoners for him.
00:55:05.000But the Geneva Convention plus, I don't know, protocols of the US military Uh, dictate that prisoners should be released in the order that they were captured.
00:55:15.000And McCain refused to be released out of sequence.
00:55:19.000They're like, we want to release you now, mate.
00:55:23.000You've got to release all this stuff first.
00:55:25.000So John McCain, whether you agreed with his politics or not, had morals and he didn't.
00:55:29.000And why I'm mentioning this now is because David Foster Wallace in an essay about this said, imagine yourself in that situation, the excuses you would use to accept that deal.
00:55:39.000But I will dedicate my life to releasing other prisoners.
00:55:43.000And in fact, in the long run, this will work out better for them because I will use my time and influence.
00:55:47.000So then he goes, imagine the things you'd remember, the smell of your wife's hair, all these things.
00:55:50.000He goes, so whatever you think about John McCain, he's a person who in that situation did that.
00:55:54.000So that's why ethics and morality... Although, to be fair, Stephen Gerrard would never want to sign John McCain.
00:55:59.000He, not like, certainly not in goal because he couldn't lift his arms above his head due to the torture that he received during that period.
00:56:08.000But I suppose like when you see people wear rainbow laces or a badge or an armband or take the knee or whatever, the charge that exists in our culture now is that these gestures of virtue signaling, as it's commonly known, are actions undertaken without cost or consequence.
00:56:26.000Like, when it, if it, like the real sacrifice and real activism, if you think of like, I don't know, Gandhi,
00:56:33.000and it seems perhaps a little unfair to compare Jordan Henderson to Mahatma Gandhi,
00:56:37.000perhaps the greatest civil rights leader in history, like...
00:57:02.000I think all of this stuff that gets labelled at footballers, I mean, again, bit of a trope and a cliche now to say this, but it is one of those, you know, few areas where working class people can earn a lot of money and it's one of the... It's one of the few areas where working class people can prop up a corrupt regime!
00:57:20.000But you know, there are so many awful things going on in the world.
00:57:37.000If you're going to make these arguments with any sincerity, let's get ready to dismantle the machinery of capitalism and start building ecologically friendly, anarcho-syndicalist, decentralised tribes.
00:57:49.000And given that no one's doing that, you might as well not criticise Jordan Henderson for doing it.
00:57:54.000Jordan Henderson is definitely not getting paid more than America are making selling arms to Saudi Arabia.
00:58:02.000And yeah, or the way that Raytheon and Lockheed Martin are profiting from the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia, which is still posed as a moral crusade in a kind of cake-and-eat-it capitalist sort of orgy of profit.
00:58:17.000All right, hold on, I had one more thing to say about this that was pretty good and I think was going to be the Real so really seal the deal in either direction.
00:58:25.000Yeah, I think so I think I was gonna seal it once and for all but I don't know should we go to Mark Goldbridge yet?
01:01:08.000This is just, like, it can only be, people go, listen, we'll give you a hundred million for Harry Kane, even though he's only got a year left in his contract, and he goes no.
01:01:47.000I mean, I know it's never an indication.
01:01:49.000I think, like, one team who won the Shield has won the Premier League in the last 10 years or something, so that's not an indication that Arsenal will be winners this season.
01:03:12.000Let's have a look at a few examples of Mark Goldbridge taking it real bad that he's a Man United fan and Man United fans won't do what it's supposed to do and what it used to do.
01:04:37.000Have there been brief moments of respite and joy within it or has it been a real grind?
01:04:44.000I read somebody say a few years ago that you've got to appreciate the fact that we had so much success that it goes in swings and roundabouts and now it's a period of bad times that you've just got to put up with, but that's like being rich.
01:05:01.000For 20 years and then living in a tent in a forest, isn't it?
01:05:04.000I mean, you don't have to go, this is acceptable.
01:05:07.000The serious answer is, you know, the club has been run badly and never should have fell as far as it has from the tree.
01:05:17.000It is quite humbling because obviously under Sir Alex, it was every year you expected to win things.
01:05:23.000Whereas now you can sort of appreciate the fact that the reality football is that there's a lot of fans out there that don't have success as well.
01:05:33.000It's quite funny watching those clips back because it is just utter despair that most fans probably have for 99% of their lives.
01:05:39.000Yeah it's striking as well because I think the quality that it has just watching it analytically is people enjoy watching authentic content and you can see that you allow yourself to have natural reactions to the frustration and disappointment that being a Man United fan has latterly included.
01:06:00.000Now let's talk a little bit mate about Maguire and McTominay.
01:06:03.000How are Man United going to cope With the loss of such a significant skeletal figures that are holding together the framework of that club, how do you actually feel about the departure of them players?
01:06:14.000And also, do you think that Ten Hag's going in the right direction?
01:06:18.000And what kind of appointments are required to get United anywhere near where they need to be to challenge City?
01:06:27.000Just give us an overview from those potential West Ham departures all the way up to Hoyland, if you can, mate.
01:06:32.000Yeah, well, look, I know you're a West Ham fan, Russell, so I'm very careful as to who might be watching in the higher-up corridors of West Ham, of what I truthfully say about Harry Maguire and Scott McTominay, because I think they would be very good signings for West Ham, and I think there's good value in going up to maybe £70 million for the pair.
01:06:49.000But no, look, you know, Scott McTominay's an interesting one.
01:06:53.000I've never been a massive fan of his in the sense that I don't think he's a first-team player for Manchester United, but I think playing regularly I do think he would.
01:07:45.000I heard you saying earlier about how he plays well for Scotland, but it amazes me that United would reject £30 million for him because I just don't know where that value has come from.
01:08:02.000Obviously, Cristiano Ronaldo would be the most obvious choice where you go and buy a teenager from sporting Lisbon, and they become a great player.
01:08:09.000Manchester United over the last decade talking about failure have sort of fallen into this trap for spending a lot of money on other people's players, whether it be the Maria or Pogba or, um.
01:08:32.000And then they develop at your football club.
01:08:34.000Manchester United should be doing more of that.
01:08:36.000And I think that's something that Eric ten hog is looking to bring as a developmental coach rather than a Jose Mourinho wants to get the players ready and do it now.
01:08:45.000I think Manchester United fans are always welcome to a manager that wants to build something over a period of time for a longer period of time.
01:08:52.000Do you feel that these kind of changes are going to be sufficient to make you competitive?
01:08:58.000Or do you feel that we're just getting deeper and deeper into an era of man-city supremacy?
01:09:04.000And I suppose the most, in a way, obvious question and the defining question is that with clubs like City and Newcastle having the level of investment that they now have, are we going to see a new tier emerge in top flight Well, I was listening to what you were both saying about Jordan Henderson and I suppose that's the way football's gone.
01:09:37.000If you'd said to me three or four years ago that United Would be in pole position to be acquired by Qatar.
01:09:50.000But where we are now, I'd say there's many a football fan who will agree with this, that if you want to be successful, so therefore in your lifetime, if you want to see your football club win trophies, then I don't see how it's possible without that level of, you know, unreserved wealth.
01:10:10.000The likes of Man City and Saudi Arabia with Newcastle have.
01:10:15.000I mean, look, Pep Guardiola has built a team over a number of years where he can say, I don't like that goalkeeper.
01:10:23.000He's a fantastic coach as well, because they've acquired the best coach in the world.
01:10:27.000They've acquired a brilliant structure around him in relation to recruitment and coaching, the infrastructure around Man City in relation to training facilities.
01:10:36.000It's all bought, and it's all high level.
01:10:39.000And I think that if you want to compete with that, and I'd love to see teams compete with that, I don't think you can without that sort of investment.
01:10:48.000We're at the critical point, I think, of either regulation or embrace the fact that it's a financial free-for-all.
01:10:55.000You've either got to ban that and sort of introduce meaningful financial regulation of like, you can only spend this, wages can only be that.
01:11:03.000You know, but I would prefer regulation at the point of purchase.
01:11:08.000It's really interesting what you say there about infrastructure because it's something that isn't spoken about that much.
01:11:12.000You know, take Man United as an example.
01:11:14.000They've spent an awful lot of money over the last few years and yet haven't really had much to show for it at all.
01:11:19.000In fact, you'd say that that money's been badly spent in many, many a case.
01:11:23.000And then you look at Man City, obviously have spent a lot of money themselves, but it feels like in terms of an infrastructure, they've got something so solid that no one else is kind of competing with.
01:11:32.000You look at like Newcastle are trying to implement something similar and it feels like That's as important as the money that you're spending on players.
01:11:40.000That what comes with that Saudi money or that Qatar money, whatever it is, is an infrastructure that's kind of unmatched and that feels like that's your future route to dominating this league for the next five years.
01:11:53.000Do you think that infrastructure is something that isn't maybe spoken about as much as the more eye-catching headlines around player transfers?
01:12:02.000I think the modern football fan is probably more aware of it than I was when I was younger.
01:12:06.000I mean, growing up in the late 80s, it was Teletext.
01:12:10.000I had no idea who played for Bayern Munich, etc.
01:12:13.000And I think when you look at the Brightons and the Brentfords of the Premier League, their success isn't a coincidence.
01:12:19.000It's based on scouting systems that other big clubs are now trying to replicate that will take them a couple of years.
01:12:25.000I think that the structure is massively important and what man's I mean, Newcastle as soon as they were taken over.
01:12:31.000I think they went and took the head of development from Brighton so you can.
01:12:35.000You can have money and you're right, Manchester United.
01:12:37.000I think even the CEO was caught saying 12 months ago that what we've spent in the last 10 years you walk into Carrington, the training ground and you go, where did it get spent?
01:12:45.000So I think Manchester City and Newcastle not only are they rich, but they look at every level of the football club from youth to recruitment to.