In this episode of Stay Free with the Russell Brand Brand Conspiracy Theory, Jake and Dave are joined by the man himself, Joe McCann, to discuss the current events happening in America, including the election of President Donald Trump and the protests in the streets of Minnesota.
00:01:26.000Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with the Russell brand.
00:01:29.000We are in the United States of America, specifically Florida, and we're talking about politics and culture in the United States with some people that I love very dearly.
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00:03:51.000Why don't we leap right away into this sort of contentious story?
00:03:54.000Everywhere I go, people are telling me they're losing friends over this.
00:03:57.000People are bickering and arguing over admittedly serious social unrest, predicted with eerie accuracy, some are saying, by Sam Tripoli, a guest on Rogan.
00:04:06.000I might look at that to give myself a bit of an understanding of what's going on.
00:04:09.000Remember, of course, a lot of my focus is on my beloved live work.
00:04:12.000As much as I adore Rumble, Chris Pavlovsky, Claudio, the whole crew there for the great support they've given us.
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00:05:18.000The world's changing radically real fast.
00:05:22.000Look, I'm telling you now, you're not going to make yourself happy buying stuff.
00:05:25.000Or say if you might be thinking, I don't know, that your kids are going to go to college, or maybe you're thinking you're going to go to Disney World.
00:05:39.000You know, it's like Everie's birthday, your oldest kid, and like you've got lovely sort of daughters that are, I don't know, 15, 17, that kind of age.
00:05:46.000And like you think, well, I think, what are we preparing them for?
00:05:52.000I'm not necessarily talking about armed conflicts, although that does seem, on the basis of the first story today, to be a significant part of it.
00:05:57.000If you're a member of our locals community or our Rumble community, we love you.
00:06:28.000So I'm pretty happy being sent wherever I've got to go.
00:06:31.000Been spending a lot of time reading Joseph, Joseph cast down a pit.
00:06:36.000Joseph, a little show off when he's a kid.
00:06:37.000Joseph going around predicting things, telling people what's what, wound his brothers up, they fucked him down assistant to shut his mouth for a little while for him.
00:06:45.000Then sold into slavery, initially to men, but ultimately to God.
00:06:47.000Goes work at Potiphar's house, gets falsely accused of rape.
00:07:16.000It might be a Larry Vivid one or it might be a sort of a dre grab one, but it's a persona nonetheless because your true identity is in Christ.
00:07:24.000Joseph serves as a proto-Christ going through various environments, being fashioned in his job and then in the prison till ultimately he becomes a significant political figure.
00:07:35.000But they say that about the chosen people.
00:07:38.000They're very good at getting higher to the Old Testament.
00:07:42.000Daniel, Joseph, they're always getting in there, getting little jobs in high places.
00:07:46.000Hey, there's no room for anti-Semitism.
00:07:56.000So I suppose that's a kind of religion.
00:07:59.000Of course, we will talk about that a little more later.
00:08:02.000But first, let's get into what's going on in Minneapolis.
00:08:06.000Probably, I'm guessing, because we're on Rumble, you all think that the ICE agent was in the right.
00:08:12.000But if we were doing this somewhere else like MSNBC, everyone would be vehemently opposed.
00:08:16.000So let's see if we can find out what the correct way to understand this complex, baffling, pullulating, ever-swarming, mad reality we're forced to live in is.
00:08:28.000I want to start with the very first statement made by the Trump administration in the aftermath of this shooting.
00:08:33.000It was a tweet by the Department of Homeland Security showing a firearm on what appears to be the seat of a car.
00:08:39.000And the tweet reads, an individual approach U.S. Border Patrol officers with a 9mm semi-automatic handgun seen here.
00:10:26.000This is important because an important detail because concealed carry is legal.
00:10:33.000We know from local officials Pretty had a permit to carry a weapon and law enforcement analysts here on CNN have raised questions as to why the picture of this gun that DHS shared online was shown on the seat of a car and not in the scene where Pritty was shot.
00:10:49.000Okay, so I suppose we might anticipate that people's traditional positions on gun ownership might alter and switch.
00:10:58.000One of the things I'd like to ask you if you're watching us at home is, well, actually if you're watching us in the middle of the street, I actually don't mind about your location.
00:11:07.000I've just not in a position to judge that.
00:11:09.000That last Civil War you lot had, wasn't that kind of about secession?
00:11:14.000Like some southern states wanted to secede for a number of reasons.
00:11:19.000Inconveniently, it seems that slavery was a part of it.
00:11:23.000But ultimately, don't you feel that rather than live in this continual tension of maintaining a union, decentralization is a political solution that's ultimately going to have to be embraced anyway.
00:11:36.000Why don't you grant further autonomy to states and boroughs and cities?
00:12:12.000Like, say if Minnesota went, we like immigrants, we want to have loads of them, and we want it illegal.
00:12:17.000Just go, all right, then, just make sure they stay there and that you've got the resources to look after everyone because a lot of people in other states don't want any.
00:12:28.000Why is the idea of the nation even being clung on to?
00:12:31.000Who's benefiting from this obvious temporary idea of nation?
00:12:34.000I know there's a biblical idea of nation, but nationhood is, I think, I mean, ain't the government meant to be on the shoulders of our Lord, Jake?
00:12:42.000Yeah, I mean, I think that's what's kind of happening, but people don't know whether it's okay to say, this is what I want to do, therefore I'm moving here.
00:12:50.000You know, it's trying to get people to all agree, which I just don't think will ever happen.
00:12:56.000It's not going to happen now because there's too many means for dispute and disagreement, and we live in a cultural climate.
00:13:01.000There are wards, endless, seemingly endless conflict.
00:13:57.000I mean, if you are an American and have been paying attention to the politics in your country for over half a century, 60 years specifically, you'll remember the assassinations that defined and divided your country in the 1960s.
00:14:10.000I'm referring mostly to the murder of the Kennedy brothers and, of course, Malcolm X and Martin Luther King.
00:14:16.000Think of the Zapuda film as it was known of JFK's assassination, presumably somewhat state-sponsored.
00:14:23.000I think more and more people are understanding the reality behind that.
00:14:28.000Now, everything, there's everything, remember when it was first CCTV and like the footage went missing of the plane that hit the Pentagon?
00:14:36.000Remember when it was just normalized as is being done currently in the UK, that facial recognition technology is going to be mass installed everywhere.
00:14:45.000They're going to facilitate protests so they can get databases of more and more people on camera.
00:14:50.000Now, like, and isn't like this one, there's so much for it.
00:14:54.000I can't believe already after Good, you know, the Rene Good a week ago, we're in another, I don't even mean ICE versus protesters, though, of course, but also studying at a granular level footage as if somehow that might bring about some kind of obvious conclusion.
00:15:16.000Because, I mean, I don't, you know, I've not been covering or observing this, but I know that this would be like everything.
00:15:22.000There'll be some people who are just law enforcement officers have to do their job.
00:15:26.000If they think their lives are at risk and that there's a firearm, they're entitled to use deadly force.
00:16:17.000What strikes me as pretty significant is people come to these endless incidents these days with a pre-existing perspective.
00:16:25.000Like there are people that just want the perfect story of an ICE officer doing something utterly transgressive.
00:16:33.000The best thing would be, if we were brainstorming it, can we get one to kill a pregnant woman like in broad daylight?
00:16:42.000And then there's other people that want to see the worst example of a protester, a drug-addicted, crazy, sex-offending monster.
00:16:54.000And there's such an appetite to impose these ideas on reality that reality itself, look, I mean, gosh, even when I say that, reality itself is fluxing and flexing under the freight of endless attention.
00:17:08.000Attention is one of the components of consciousness.
00:17:11.000The new technology we have means that time itself, another thing that's almost impossible to measure, atomic clocks aren't really super reliable.
00:17:21.000What can be measured of velocity and entropy?
00:17:24.000Those things refer to space and matter.
00:17:27.000We're living in this peculiar, synthetic, eternal present.
00:17:32.000Not the eternal present proposed by, you know, Buddha or Christ, seek thee first the kingdom of God.
00:17:39.000No, a kind of synthetic facsimile simulacrum present.
00:17:45.000So what I mean to say with all of those wonderful polysabic words there is that everyone's just imposing their own perspective on reality all the time en masse and that is not a sustainable model.
00:18:02.000At the moment, the elites that benefit in are likely somewhat MAGA affiliated due to the results of your last election.
00:18:09.000A minute ago, the elites that were benefiting were more associated with your classic Democrat neoliberal interest.
00:18:16.000The fact though is this, whether you're a person who was out protesting George Floyd or a person that was out protesting COVID restrictions or you're a person protesting that lad Gino, whatever, the good-looking lad that killed the CEO, wherever you think you are on the political spectrum, it's all made up.
00:18:36.000And if you don't start to focus on your actual reality, your community, your life and your connection to God, you will be herded into the paddocks reserved for the chattel that you're behaving like.
00:18:50.000That's my pretty blunt analysis on it.
00:18:53.000All I can see Joe looks like he's warming up to say something.
00:18:58.000And I think it's going to be insensitive, Joe.
00:19:00.000I know you well enough to sort of it's going to be insensitive.
00:19:03.000But before that insensitivity, here's Tim Waltz about whom Donald Trump once went, sorry not right about that guy.
00:19:09.000Many of us grew up reading that story of Anne Frank.
00:19:14.000Somebody's going to write that children's story about Minnesota.
00:19:18.000Some of us, like me, Tim Waltz, were masturbating over that book about Anne Frank.
00:20:52.000You can't be all gurney your way through it like she's out of her nut on MDMA.
00:20:56.000Pictures and unrelated people who we don't know anything about and a picture of a firearm to try and spin a narrative.
00:21:07.000I think they should be forced to use signers that have strikingly different political views so that the signer, you can tell, sort of misleading him and taking him on a wild ride.
00:21:17.000And I say this with some personal experience because one time I interviewed His Holiness the Dalai Lama in front of an audience of 15,000 people and I think the interpreter was misinterpreting me.
00:21:28.000Certainly the Dalai Lama was getting very angry and all I was suggesting was a little smooch.
00:21:33.000So if the Dalai Lama can't handle a little smooch in an interview, I don't know what's happening with the guy.
00:21:38.000Now I think what the guy kept doing, I said to Dalai Lama when I interviewed him, I goes, what's it?
00:21:43.000He had a glass right of a beverage in it.
00:22:58.000Well, that's me trying my hardest to be nice.
00:23:02.000Like, so now, look, look, look, I actually, I'm a follower of Christ Jesus and therefore know that absolute love is what we owe to each other because of our love to him, because of the grace he showed us.
00:23:16.000But like, if you're like having to confront this sort of constant, giddy, saccharine piety, this excuse for a culture that we're operating in, you've got to laugh at it because there is no other proper response, set for probably suicide which i've also you know long considered but i've decided to get don't do it No, thank you.
00:24:10.000Well, because she's sort of going, it ain't right that that lad's been shot at the protest, and she don't want that to come across like she's being sarcastic.
00:26:45.000We need over here in the United States for us to do our jobs well.
00:26:49.000Ironically, this is an immigration issue.
00:26:51.000We want Joe here in the United States of America, but because of the bloody ICE agents, because of bloody Homeland Security, we can't get him over because as you can see, Joe's as Mexican as all heck.
00:27:03.000The guy's getting held up at every single one.
00:28:03.000But let's have a look what he's saying.
00:28:05.000Now, I'm headed from here to Minneapolis, where we're going to talk with some of our ICE agents, talk with local officials about how we can turn down the chaos.
00:28:13.000And my simple piece of advice to them is going to be: look, if you want to turn down the chaos in Minneapolis, stop fighting immigration enforcement and accept that we have to have a border in this country.
00:28:29.000If you look all across our country, what's happened in Minneapolis is happening almost nowhere else in the United States of America.
00:28:36.000And that's because whether it's in Texas or Tennessee, it's in red states, it's in blue cities, even within our country.
00:28:44.000Most people are cooperating with the simple principle that we ought to be able to enforce our immigration laws and get illegal criminals the hell out of the United States of America.
00:29:11.000I think this is where there's a gridlock on both sides of this polar dualistic political reality, e.g., neoliberal, option one, Republican, neoliberal, option two, Democrat, is there is no reason to mass centralize the control, organization, and government of any territory anymore.
00:29:33.000The principle should be devolution and central authority only where necessary.
00:29:38.000There should be a conversation about that should start now.
00:29:40.000Where do you want centralized authority?
00:29:41.000Now, some people might say, that's already happened, Russell.
00:29:47.000Obviously, it needs to be re-evaluated because the communications have changed, the technology has changed, and our political reality no longer reflects our capacity.
00:29:57.000And the changes that all of us talked about for a long time, if you listen to sort of Joe Rogan five, ten years ago, many of his podcasts, he was sort of foresaw that there would be problems born out of this communication.
00:30:11.000Even if you note what happened to the record industry and the entertainment industry and the way it's reconfigured, the way that some of the most powerful organizations on earth didn't exist 10, 15 years ago, just economic, something that's measurable.
00:30:22.000Like things that didn't exist 20 years ago are now the most powerful entities on earth.
00:30:34.000And we shouldn't be exchanging illusions.
00:30:37.000We should be seeking to instantiate truth.
00:30:40.000Before we come to the psalm selected by a producer, Jake, let's have a look at one such Joe Rogan guest, Sam Tripoli, talking about these, the likelihood of there being unrest and disputes and I guess even protests on the street as early as in 2023 when this clip is from.
00:30:56.000We're in the Bolshevik war right now, bro.
00:30:58.000And right now what's coming up is all the pride stuff is going to be.
00:31:02.000Okay, so I had this woman come on my podcast.
00:31:31.000Oh, yeah, the illegal immigrants are upset about where they're staying.
00:31:35.000And these illegal immigrants who speak no English are holding up perfectly written English signs saying we're tired of how we're being treated.
00:31:43.000And now you're starting to see this over and over again.
00:31:46.000Eric, so everyone's always like when all these Republican governors are like sending these immigrants all over the country.
00:31:53.000Everyone's like, yeah, you're showing those Democrats, bro.
00:33:03.000I'm praying for the day where we can comfortably use the N-word.
00:33:07.000Now, before that, though, let's have a look at this psalm.
00:33:10.000When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars which you have set in place, what is mankind that you are mindful of them?
00:33:23.000I think there is, that's the reminder.
00:33:26.000He does care for us, that we are a part of this plan that he has, a story that he's unfolding.
00:33:33.000So I think we can't just say humanity needs to just, you know, go away, but we have to find what is God's purpose for us.
00:33:41.000It's definitely not just fighting and destroying each other.
00:33:45.000It's very ugly and nihilistic to watch that.
00:33:48.000Like when that guy had that green smoke coming out of him.
00:33:51.000And actually thinking about it now, when I was going to protest, attending things like that when I was younger and on drugs, they were left-wing type protests.
00:34:01.000And what motivated it for me was a sense that my life was being controlled by forces that didn't care about me and I didn't agree with and that they were injustice.
00:34:10.000And I still basically feel the same way.
00:34:14.000And I wonder then, should you think we should have...
00:34:17.000Problem is, it's quite funny saying stuff like that about the sign language lady, but perhaps we should just be really nice and compassionate all the time and really try our best to understand the perspective of people that we strongly disagree with and try and find the good in...
00:34:33.000What we could probably agree with is, all right, you people in Minnesota there, you're super compassionate about vulnerable people.
00:34:40.000That's a wonderful attribute to really care about vulnerable people who can't protect themselves.
00:34:48.000I really, that's a very strong Christian value.
00:34:55.000And then what's the other perspective?
00:34:58.000Oh, that you're a nice officer, that you're very dutiful, that you're actually bold enough to put yourself in danger because of what you believe in.
00:35:05.000But I reckon everyone thinks the opposite, don't they?
00:35:07.000What is it we say, Joe, that people are focused on other people's conduct and their own welfare when we must focus on other people's welfare and our own conduct.
00:35:16.000And that nun I'm reading in her book, Ruth Burroughs, she goes, sorry about that, what a terrible time to belch, you know, right, when you're bringing a nun up.
00:35:24.000Like it's the last time to belch, isn't it?
00:36:40.000Well, and when you get pulled over, when I got my concealed handgun, the very first thing you give a police officer is your concealed handgun license and you put both hands on the wheel and you tell them where your gun is.
00:36:55.000And then if they say that you get paper sprayed and thrown to the ground.
00:36:59.000Well, if you did that, I mean, if you scream at them and tell them, hey, my gun's here, or something like that, maybe you get paper sprayed.
00:37:06.000But usually they're just like, I'm like, do you want me to open my glove box?
00:37:12.000Or if it's on me, then I'm like, do you want to, do you want me to take it out?
00:37:16.000Like, you just let them tell you what they want.
00:37:20.000I've often wondered if the Minneapolis Border Patrol shooter would be charged, but wonder no more.
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00:41:09.000Even people getting shot in the streets in Minneapolis.
00:41:12.000You don't know how to talk about it no more.
00:41:13.000Even a person like me, basically sensitive, weary and exhausted by watching weirdly cast sign language folks signaling more than information to the deaf, signaling a political perspective.
00:41:26.000Lord, is it possible that we could focus ourselves on the greatness of Alex Honold without turning it into a spectacle?
00:41:34.000Indeed, it was spectacular to see him ascending that building.
00:42:16.000We're trying to keep sort of a reverent hush so as not to break his concentration.
00:42:23.000Here's the things that struck me about it, right?
00:42:25.000Is that for Alex Honold, who's a person who's used to climbing up mountains with their inconsistent, variable, and unpredictable surfaces that might be subject to weather and detritus and wetness and decay and crumble, climbing that building, even though to any normal person it would be terrifying to me, it's probably like a great big jungle gym, just a great big climbing frame with really easy grips and things to hold on to.
00:42:48.000And I was sort of wondered that and was curious about it.
00:42:51.000That doesn't sort of diminish the achievement in my mind.
00:42:54.000What does diminish the achievement is the way that like Netflix had like a panel of people sat in the street and someone that was a wrestler?
00:43:00.000Again, not an attack on these individuals.
00:43:02.000Just the culture itself is making everything into some sort of like bubblegum for the mind.
00:43:57.000Like I'm a former priest of the culture, cast out of the culture, and now I'm enraged by the culture.
00:44:07.000So like I'm not good at being objective.
00:44:10.000Like even things that I really like, lifelong loves of mine, West Ham United Football Club, like it's hard for me to get, because everything is so shellact in the culture's sticky livery, I find it hard to enjoy even things that I've loved my whole life, you know, and I find it hard to see the authenticity and beauty and God in things now.
00:44:31.000And it's pretty easy perspective to have because so many things are so appalling and revolting.
00:44:36.000And I thought this was a perfect example that Alex Honold is a genius and a beautiful oddity.
00:44:43.000And like having to watch him and his girlfriend kissing and like the mandatory bits of bullshit that pave across the truth of anything worthwhile and nothing having any value except for economic value.
00:44:56.000And I feel like the culture needs to stop and give up.
00:45:01.000I suppose this is the exact format of sour grapes, really.
00:45:06.000But when I think of like the Oscars, are you still doing this stuff?
00:45:11.000People like getting, like, that's what that clip was, Massey or Isaac or whatever, cut about like the Mark Ruffalo thing.
00:45:17.000Because with Ricky Gervais and Mark Ruffalo, you've got sort of two perfect objects, haven't you?
00:45:24.000You've got Mark Ruffalo turning up at the Golden Globes saying, I can't believe I'm here, you know, when everything's going on in Minneapolis.
00:45:31.000And you've got Ricky Gervais shredding it.
00:45:33.000But I suppose a better analyst than I might say, well, both Ricky Gervais and Mark Ruffalo are still participants in the culture in their own way.
00:45:40.000One playing the role of the cynic, the other one playing another role within it.
00:45:44.000And surely the only, like you've said before about like with Christian folk, like that have gotten big in the Christian space and then come back as I'm the ante, get big in the Christian space guy.
00:45:54.000Like, what if you're actually against this stuff?
00:46:38.000And Matt Stone also is the person that's holding it together with him.
00:46:42.000Like that came from one VHS of like, you know, Jesus and Santa Claus owning about who Christmas is really about.
00:46:49.000And from that tiny artifact, he's like, you know, 30 or 40 seasons of it, whether they're done movies, merchandise, like the sort of atomic explosion, the light held in that particle of creativity was so luminous and powerful that it's enough to create all that.
00:47:05.000Then think of when, like, you know, we're all of an age where when YouTubers started to like, YouTubers making money, that's fucking disgusting.
00:47:14.000When I were a lad, it were like, the first of the precursor to that idea was reality TV stars.
00:47:20.000Like in our country, reality TV stars, I think you had the same thing when people out of Jersey Shore or whatever would become stars and get their own shows and turn up on things.
00:47:28.000Well, in our country, that one was like Big Brother.
00:47:31.000And it brought out like proper underclass stars, like not just working class.
00:47:36.000We're talking like people like traveler level, kind of like, fucking hell, like rowdy people that didn't look illiterates, illiterates, like becoming famous.
00:47:47.000Like they've got totally different social values.
00:47:50.000And I'm thinking in particular of Jade Goody, who was a sort of a sensation that emerged our big brother, who went through this mad cycle of being really hated and vilified, a bit like that movie, the Stephen King movie, Carrie, and then everyone realizing, oh, fuck, we've gone too far hating her.
00:48:04.000We better we can't do this because people sometimes are confronted with their own unconscious appetites to vilify, bully, condemn, damn, and to just want desperately to hate someone.
00:48:15.000And like the culture does it a lot to women.
00:48:16.000They did it to Princess Diana, Amy Winehouse, Britney Spears.
00:49:34.000I'm not going to give him any more than that.
00:49:36.000But like, you know, God forbid that Alex Honneld should be complex.
00:49:40.000Or, you know, like, it's just with someone like Jade Goody, a working class person turned into a celebrity who later said racist stuff on telly because she comes from a class and a culture where that is completely normal and not even considered racist.
00:49:52.000She would spend more time with black and Asian people than any of the people that were condemning her and have more Asian and black friends than any of the people condemning her.
00:49:59.000But if you said a word that is a racist word in British, it's packy.
00:50:02.000It is a racist word, but I'll say it, I suppose, for the purposes of you knowing what it is.
00:50:07.000But I wouldn't say it in a derogatory or hurtful way.
00:50:10.000I'd hate for anyone to be hurt by anything that I've said or done ever, actually.
00:50:19.000All right, that's not so racist, though, right?
00:50:21.000Joe McCann, let's hand it over to Joe.
00:50:23.000Joe's live for like, Joe, go on, talk these guys through piekeys and packies.
00:50:28.000Yeah, that is actually the same, the same saying, right?
00:50:32.000I was actually at the gym the other day with a mate of mine who's Pakistani and a friend of mine who's a traveller bumped into him in the changing rooms and he said, look, I suffer racism all the time.
00:50:42.000They call us pikeys, do as you like, East, they're not over there, all that sort of stuff.
00:51:19.000You've said something I know something about.
00:51:20.000Now you're going to have to listen to me.
00:51:24.000From when people started to settle and build communities at the advent of agriculture, i.e., people don't have to follow food around no more.
00:51:33.000Some people continued with a nomadic lifestyle.
00:51:36.000The nomadic people were always regarded with cynicism and doubt, the troubadours, the wandering minstrels, the people that move through, the shaman, the mysterious folk, because they don't need to build relationships.
00:51:48.000So the logic goes, and therefore they're less reliable.
00:51:51.000And the very things that people say about travelers and you know, using the racial slur, you'd have to say pikey there.
00:51:58.000They say, oh, they're going to nick your baby.
00:52:01.000They'll come and they'll tarmac your drive and do a bad job of it.
00:52:30.000They suffer a lot of racism because they keep within their own sort of community.
00:52:35.000And they, like I say, very old-fashioned.
00:52:38.000And look, I've met a lot of good people, a lot of good people, travelers, but they do get a lot of stick, you know, and it seems to be almost like they're not represented for that.
00:52:50.000Well, they're not participating in the system in some way because, like, the famous thing is they don't pay tax and that kind of order, that kind of stuff, innit?
00:52:57.000But really, but so there's the real problem is they've gone, we're not operating inside of this system.
00:53:03.000So whether it's like the travelers or the Amish, the people that we should be emulating after, who are people who are going, this is my community, this is how I want to live.
00:53:10.000Hopefully I'm open-hearted and tolerant and love other people and want to learn about other cultures.
00:53:14.000But the reality of my life is us lot grow the food, these lot do the protecting if there's any kind of problems.
00:53:23.000We've got our own little ways of doing it.
00:53:24.000There are basic understandings that we don't mess with vulnerable people.
00:53:28.000That there are sexual, moral, and ethical laws that hold us all together.
00:53:32.000You know, like other than some basic universal truths, which curiously enough are the other things that the neoliberalist post-structuralist movement tried to deny existed, i.e. they said there is no objective thing of good and evil.
00:53:45.000There's nothing wrong with this, nothing wrong with that.
00:53:48.000Once you dispatch that crap and just go, no, there is.
00:53:52.000Forget Foucault and Derrida and the post-structuralists and embrace indeed the truth of God.
00:53:59.000You know if you're doing something right or wrong.
00:54:01.000Let's stop wasting our time trying to pretend that there's a thousand different rights and sort of some sort of hegemonic patriarchal class imposing law and order.
00:54:10.000If you're able to protect, protect, if you're able to serve, you should serve.
00:54:14.000If you're in a position of power, it should be a position of service.
00:54:17.000You should always have people in leadership positions answerable to the people that they serve.
00:54:21.000You should never allow positions of power to become entrenched.
00:54:25.000You should recognize that all of us are in the same relationship to God, i.e. we are creatures, we are subordinate to him.
00:54:31.000We have different abilities, different deficits.
00:54:34.000We're all here and we're all going to die.
00:54:36.000And if we don't love one another, why are you going to be a disgusting mess and it might go on for all eternity, as I've been led to believe.
00:54:42.000And like people that are living in community have at least understood the first part.
00:54:46.000Well, why don't we all look after one another?
00:54:49.000Now, Christ wants to remove limited liability for the category of neighbor to include everyone in the whole world.
00:54:55.000And that is what we should be aspiring to.
00:54:57.000But you can't achieve anything at all when you're atomized and global.
00:55:01.000You're a self-obsessed individual living in a global community.
00:55:05.000And all you really care about when you drill down to it is your amount of pleasure and pain.
00:55:13.000All you're after is pleasure and pain, dressing it up, justifying why this bit of pleasure you're entitled to, justifying why this bit of pain shouldn't happen.
00:55:21.000Oh, this person in Minnesota's done this.
00:55:24.000This person over in there's like, you don't know nothing about fuck all.
00:55:27.000Just settle yourself right down, get in touch with the Lord Almighty and do something less daft.
00:55:44.000We'll arm ourselves to the fucking teeth.
00:55:46.000We'll teach people how to unhook themselves from these systems in the holy name of Christ.
00:55:50.000And we'll fight this war because that's what they want.
00:55:53.000But not on the front foot, learning from beloved Gandhi and Martin Luther King that the first thing is mass disobedience, total disobedience.
00:56:00.000And to have the stones to disobey, you've got to be willing to die, innit, Joe.
00:56:49.000There's slight variations between the three prophecies, but most of them say that it's going to start with like an illumination of consciousness, right?
00:56:58.000So think like St. Paul on the road to Damascus.
00:57:01.000But you're going to have this big experience where you're going to see yourself as God sees you, right?
00:57:06.000This is then followed by the three days of darkness.
00:57:10.000So thick, dark smog essentially is going to cover the earth, right?
00:57:15.000You ain't going to be able to go outside.
00:57:28.000Now, during this time, you can either repent of your sins, come back to Christ and be redeemed, or you get consumed by demons and the black smog.
00:58:04.000I've done a little deep dive on this and made some notes here.
00:58:06.000So there's things to look out for in the build-up to this, right?
00:58:10.000So some say that the Antichrist will rule for three years first.
00:58:14.000Then there's a little checklist things to look out for, which I listed, right?
00:58:18.000So it says false worship, close of churches, rebellion against God, pride in human knowledge, breakdown of the family unit, corruption, revolutions, floods and earthquakes.
00:58:31.000So there's going to be like global disasters and all that as well.
00:58:34.000And then this ends in a return of the light, the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
00:58:41.000That's good work there, my beloved brother.
00:58:45.000What if in, I know, I know it ain't scriptural.
00:58:48.000You said it's like catechism or Catholic prophecy, but what if the use of the word day is maybe like the creation story defining a movement or unit of time rather than a 24-hour relationship between the sun and the earth?
00:59:06.000So like it's because I think we're already in it.
00:59:08.000It sounds like that's like we might have been in that.
00:59:11.000I mean, I don't know how, and no one does, thankfully, how to sort of interpret the temporal in scripture or in prophecy.
00:59:21.000But what it does seem to me is that that heavy darkness, that image is sort of a powerful scriptural image.
00:59:28.000In Exodus, Moses, in his approach to Yahweh, has to move through thick cloud.
00:59:33.000And any of you to have ever thought of killing yourself, and Jake thinks I should do it.
00:59:39.000Jake didn't say, he said the opposite.
00:59:41.000Like, any of you, that's what you pass through is a cloud of darkness.
00:59:46.000I think sometimes, you know, when people say the moonlanders didn't happen because there's an asteroid belt that people can't envisage how the shuttle was meant to have got through.
00:59:54.000It's one of the things that people who believe there were no moon landings say.
00:59:58.000And I feel that there is something you have to pass through, and this is mythically quite tight too, I believe, in order to become enlightened.
01:00:09.000Paul got shazammed off the back of that nag, didn't he, on the way to Damascus?
01:00:14.000But most people's white light experiences, I think, are on the back of successive crises.
01:00:20.000But for all we know, Saul of Tarsus was so depressed with his way of life.
01:00:25.000Like he's holding the jackets while they're burning Stephen or stoning him and he's like watching all this and something in him is like, this ain't right.
01:00:36.000And think about your own experience of personal awakening.
01:00:39.000Those of you that have entered into that as an adult, it was preceded, wasn't it, by like a sort of an almost inconceivable darkness.
01:00:48.000I'm not suggesting that these three days are not true because I think they are true.
01:00:52.000I'm just wondering about the way that it will play out.
01:00:56.000But perhaps what's even more interesting than that, and we'll have to save this story for our Rumble Premium viewers, is that Joe's accruing this information.
01:01:06.000Joe's going and visiting like different Franciscan friaries and hanging out with like badass monks that sound like they should be played by like Brendan B, like sort of like Brendan Gleason style mad hunched monks, like all sound like proper badasses.
01:01:23.000So we'll be talking more about that because in a sense what this show is for these days, yes, of course, we're proud supporters, allies and partners of our friends at Rumble.
01:01:31.000And of course, any economic partnerships that they have, we want to support those as well and be good colleagues and friends to these beloved supporters who have been so bold and brave in their actions and attitudes towards us.
01:01:44.000But I'm actually, tell you the truth, I'm like, the two options for me now are either what Jake's alluding to, like, no, not to be sorry, check out, like go live the sort of hermetic life, hermetic monastic life of just like, oh, but then I've got kids, so I'm in the world.
01:02:02.000And then, or fully, like, whatever the equivalent is of religious devoutness in preparation for war.
01:02:10.000But because I've been such an egomaniac most of my life, I'm going to see which one God wants and just do that one because I can't be bothered to keep pushing this stone of myself up a hill for all eternity.