Trump's visit to the UK has highlighted that people have an appetite for freedom and for radical change. Is the UK officially a police state, and how does a state deal with a figure that some regard as the ultimate authoritarian, and others as a symbol of freedom?
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00:13:59.000And I feel like he goes on a long holiday in August.
00:15:49.000It's the perfect time for Donald Trump to be visiting the UK.
00:15:53.000And it's been an extraordinary, and for the leader of the UK, embarrassing visit.
00:15:57.000Here are some of the highlights of his recent press conference with Keir Starmer, where Trump in customary fashion is able to demonstrate pretty primitive power dynamic moves that are kind of enjoyable for those of us that have got some kind of grievance against Keir Starmer.
00:16:16.000The BBC, of course, the propaganda state-funded, tax-funded media unit within the UK, extracted all of the embarrassing moments that came up during their press conference between Trump and Starma.
00:16:30.000And therefore, I guess it was pretty short.
00:16:32.000Just watch the BBC, says Lee Harris, on X. They left out everything that embarrassed Starmer.
00:17:09.000Here are some of my favourite moments from the conversation.
00:17:13.000He talks about Sadiq Khan, who's the mayor of London, who previously, a few years ago and when Trump was making a visit, I think during his 2016 presidency term, the term in which he was elected in 2016.
00:17:25.000And I feel like Sadiq Khan participated in protests in which a giant inflatable Trump baby was floated above London as part of a kind of present ridicule device for his visit.
00:17:38.000Now though, crowds have turned up in London to welcome Trump.
00:17:41.000No one's pretending Trump's not a divisive figure and that loads of people in the UK, whether they're from the left or whether they believe in progressive identity politics, despair of Donald Trump.
00:17:50.000You know that my own affection for Donald Trump is born of the fact that he opposes many ideas that I myself and I feel like you are opposed to.
00:18:02.000And whilst now we have Trump in power, there are a lot of questions being asked.
00:18:05.000We'll be answering some of them over the course of this conversation.
00:18:08.000And if you want a comparison to clinically trial against Trump, you don't need to look any further than the UK where rampant authoritarianism dressed as concern and compassion is at an all-time high, the online safety bill being but one example.
00:18:25.000In order to protect you, in order to protect children, we're going to monitor you, spy on you and censor you.
00:18:30.000And with people being arrested and even incarcerated for free speech crimes, we know that the UK government are serious on clamping down on freedom, not threats to children.
00:18:41.000Let's have a look at this moment where Trump interrupts Kiostama in a forthright manner.
00:19:08.000That interjection, that was like apes quarreling over a piece of fruit.
00:19:13.000Let's have a look at this moment here where Kierstalma tries to interject with the claim that Britain is a forbear and bastion of free speech.
00:19:25.000I don't know if you're referring to any place in particular.
00:19:28.000Perhaps they are, but we've had free speech For a very, very long time here, so we're very proud of that.
00:19:34.000Nothing to worry about when it comes to little free speech.
00:19:36.000I've been free speaking all morning, I've free speaked my way here, I've been free speaking at the podium, I'll have a little free speech chin wag.
00:19:45.000Trump interjects on the subject of online censorship with particular regard to his own site, Truth Social.
00:19:52.000You have a successful social media site.
00:19:55.000There are new powers here to censor your site, state-mandated.
00:21:40.000How are we going to legitimize censoring people when the technology affords immediate, instantaneous, global communication?
00:21:49.000Which is a massive problem for us because control of information and power equate to the same thing.
00:21:54.000If you can't control information, you can't consolidate power unless you are governing truly by consent and you have an electorate or population that broadly supports you.
00:22:17.000What we'll do is we'll have a spate of media stories seeded by our compliant partners in media about child suicide, child pornography or anything to do with the protection of children.
00:22:28.000And then what we'll do is we'll exploit people's natural tendency to want to protect children in order to get them to bow down to our power.
00:23:05.000That's why marketing trends alter in alignment with political trends and cultural trends.
00:23:11.000You know, I prefer an advertisement for American Eagle that has Sidney Sweeney in it than one that doesn't.
00:23:17.000But I won't make the mistake of thinking that American Eagle or any other corporation are my friend, they exist to sell you a product and they'll sell you a product any way they can.
00:23:26.000You might consider that less nefarious than a government selling you an idea that is detrimental to your well-being and your understanding of reality.
00:23:37.000Of course, the UK government selling you an online safety act inverting commas when in fact it's a censorship bill is much worse than any number of corporations that will one minute have a gay flag on their logo, one minute have a Black Lives Matter logo, another minute support Ukraine, another moment support Palestine, another minute support Israel.
00:24:03.000And it's our obligation and duty to separate our loyalty and fealty from people and places that we actually love, from a bunch of brands that are selling us products and a bunch of governments that are there to simply control you.
00:24:24.000Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
00:24:26.000And this is another example of why I prefer Donald Trump over other politicians while acknowledging that Donald Trump is pretty far from perfect and as long as he's existing within corrupt institutions and systems, he'll continue to ultimately follow the flow and patterns of other powerful patriarchal figures and political leaders.
00:24:42.000The reason I like him is because you're not going to get Joe Biden or Kamala Harris going and digging Keir Starmer out live on your TV set for perfect amusement.
00:24:51.000You're not going to get your X feed lit up with moments of like Keir Starmer squirming around like someone who's got some sort of hemorrhoid condition induced by Lord alone knows what.
00:25:17.000Thanks Stephen Crowder and all you guys over at Mud Club.
00:25:20.000If you're watching us anywhere other than Rumble, make your way over.
00:25:22.000We're speaking freely about what the encounter between Trump and Keir Starmer demonstrates.
00:25:28.000Firstly, what it demonstrates is Kier Starmer is not a person that should be in a position of leadership unless you think people in positions of leadership should be utterly malleable servants of global imperialist systems of total control that ultimately don't care about democratic sovereignty.
00:25:43.000He is not the prime minister of the UK.
00:25:45.000He is a WEF, WHO, NATO, UN, even EU in spite of Brexit stooge.
00:26:02.000How many times do I have to tell you we've got free speech?
00:26:04.000Why are these people keep getting jailed for saying stuff like I'm concerned about migration?
00:26:07.000Because that's not bloody well very free at all, is it?
00:26:11.000Like you are free to say anything that falls within the parameters and paradigm of their preferences.
00:26:17.000If you start talking outside of that, if you start communicating ideas that are detrimental to the hegemony of these systems of power in the UK, you will learn fast that your speech ain't free.
00:26:28.000And they'll do whatever it takes to prohibit, inhibit, and delete your ability to openly communicate.
00:26:34.000I know this from some personal experience.
00:26:56.000Oh, Christ, it's going to kill itself, that poor little young teenager.
00:27:00.000Who among us, after living through COVID, or the phony wars, or the constant taxation, or the manipulative and mind-dulling media, believes that these people have anything other than their own concerns, front and center, like a ridiculous erection that they ludicrously worship?
00:27:29.000We actually passed a bill in Congress headed up by my wife, actually, which was to pull bad stuff out having to do with children because it is a problem.
00:27:40.000But I cannot imagine him censoring the truth.
00:27:43.000So this is very political and it's been a very big success.
00:27:49.000And I only say good things about him and his country, so if they censor me, you're making a mistake.
00:27:56.000Give my ambassador the job, make sure it's not successful.
00:27:59.000I had imagine his little sweaty bottom as he just sits in that armchair, squirming and a sweating, fretting and a panicking, knowing that the truth is coming for him.
00:28:13.000What's your advice on dealing with a small boat crisis in this country?
00:28:16.000The small boats crisis coming over the channel, so we're taking a lot of action to stop people coming over the channel who should taking a lot of action to stop people coming over the channel.
00:28:27.000Look at how ultimately the true dynamic has asserted itself.
00:28:30.000Starmer, bureaucrat, middle management figure, apparently rather impressive when he was head of the CPS, although they didn't do a great deal to help Jimmy.
00:28:39.000They didn't do a great deal to protect Julian Assange and they didn't do a great deal to prosecute Jimmy Savile, the rampant, paedophile, and apparent servant of the elite.
00:28:48.000Extraordinary that that took place under Keir Starmer's watch.
00:28:51.000Here, he is returned to his rightful position as a kind of acolyte and underling of someone like Trump who, whether you like him or not, emanates a kind of chief power.
00:29:02.000The child who shouldn't be here, stopping them coming in the first place.
00:29:19.000We had a border last June, just recent, you know, last month.
00:29:24.000We had zero people come into the country, zero, other than come in through legal means.
00:29:30.000The subject of immigration remains a contentious one because arguments can certainly be made that as one global human family we have an obligation to care for and love one another.
00:29:42.000I think it's ridiculous that that claim is made though by governments that plainly exist in order to control and exploit and perpetuate their own power, which they'll do however they can.
00:29:52.000What's not contentious is that you need food to live and in order to have food you need farmers unless we of course kowtow to Bill Gates who would have us eaten near plastic lab grown flesh.
00:30:04.000But for now at least we need farmers to feed ourselves and across Europe and across the world there seems to be an attempt to centralize control over agriculture and to break the spirits of the farming community in my country I'm talking about and to destroy their ability to operate through various taxation methods and apparent climate change control initiatives that don't seem to do a great deal to protect or preserve or help the planet but do a lot to disempower farmers.
00:30:31.000That subject came up as well during Star Martin Trump's set of public appearances that accompany his visit to the UK.
00:30:39.000What's fascinating about this is the same way that during the Canadian trucker protests we were invited to assume that truck drivers in Canada had all become mad, giddy, hopeless, Nazi racists.
00:30:52.000In the UK at the moment we have to engineer our internal feelings of hatred against farmers not to acknowledge that what's happening is part of a globalist decree to control food.
00:31:03.000It's important I reckon that we are able to keep a macro perspective on these geopolitical and global themes like control, centralized bureaucratic control and distraction from the efforts to achieve that control, as well as the sort of more amusing dynamics between Trump and Starma.
00:31:21.000Here the subject of agriculture and the agricultural protests come up.
00:31:33.000We have a lot of unhappy farmers in this country at the moment and I'm sure the Prime Minister won't thank me for raising this.
00:31:38.000We've had changes to inheritance tax which means a lot of farmers feel they're going to lose their farms when they die or their father dies.
00:31:45.000How important are farmers to a country?
00:31:49.000They're going to lose the farm because of the state taxes.
00:32:27.000If you're watching this anywhere other than Rumble, join us over on Rumble if you're an ex or if you're on YouTube, we're looking at Donald Trump's visit to my country, the UK, and the embarrassing collision of ideas that has emerged.
00:32:41.000How do you feel about nativism, patriotism, America first, UK first?
00:32:45.000Certainly there's a resurgence in national pride and patriotism that I suppose is an understandable response to globalism and the kind of boring, tedious bureaucratic tyranny that it engendered all the while they're telling you that they care about you, that they're here to protect you, whether that's the online safety bill or the way they handled COVID or the way they handle migration.
00:33:05.000Increasingly, people are rejecting those ideas, thankfully.
00:33:08.000One of the most interesting moments to emerge from these set of public appearances was their discussion about Sadiq Khan, who's the current mayor of London, who Kiestama says is a personal friend of his, which is interesting actually.
00:33:22.000Donald Trump, though, he didn't like Sadiq Khan because Sidiq Khan participated in a bunch of protests last time Trump was in office.
00:34:03.000It's difficult not to feel some compassion for Keir Starmer when you see his ineptitude and inability to deal with the easy intensity of Donald Trump.
00:34:13.000Keir Starmer, I suppose, the reason that I feel not animosity towards him, but steep cynicism, is because I know that while he was at the CPS, he could have intervened when it came to the various forms of incarceration pertaining to Julian Assange there, who was holed up in an embassy for five years and then Belmarsh for five years without trial, simply because he revealed embarrassing secrets about both the United States government and the UK government.
00:34:40.000And always, really, it comes down to the machinery behind what we regard as power, a mere edifice with interchangeable figures like Keir Starmer at their forefront.
00:34:51.000And it's interesting for me to see Kiostama exposed to the awkwardness that comes when you're around someone who handles power rather than rather better than he does.
00:35:01.000Ceno Frias, do you feel like he's a WEF puppet?
00:35:05.000You're asking that about Kierstama, of course.
00:35:07.000Well, he did say that he preferred Davos, the home of the WEF, to Westminster, the home of the British government.
00:35:14.000And we're in a really unique and interesting moment in British power and British politics because we have an unpopular government with no election coming, not for a couple of years, unless they call a snap, urgent or early one.
00:35:26.000We have the rise of Nigel Farage and reform.
00:35:28.000I think more importantly than that, we have a sense in the UK that neither of these political movements, the left or right, are going to lead to anything other than the further ossification of old establishment power.
00:35:42.000And peculiarly, that might mean something arcane, something deep and old, a return to God, a return to Christ.
00:35:50.000Certainly there's signs of a revival in the UK, people going to Roman Catholic churches and Pentecostal churches and abandoning the false belief that worldliness can fulfill you.
00:36:01.000In a way, I always felt that Trump was a kind of figure that was born out of the tides of time.
00:36:06.000He showed us where American culture is.
00:36:09.000He showed us that the collision of entertainment and politics and commerce was always going to create someone that had chops in all three of those areas, a perfect orator and creature for his time.
00:36:20.000Similarly, Keir Starmer, this grey and somewhat tepid bureaucratic figure, tells you where British power is and where British politics are.
00:36:30.000Having crushed Jeremy Corbyn and a left-wing movement that was somewhat populist and certainly authentic, the left doesn't know what it is other than a bureaucratic servant of global imperial power.
00:36:42.000The right under Boris Johnson fell apart while in office and will likely ultimately end up being claimed by Nigel Farage.
00:36:50.000I presume Reform and the Conservative Party will align and mesh at some point, I guess.
00:36:58.000But whatever outcome we receive through the current conduits of power, it will amount to more of the same unless we're willing to confront the systems and institutions of power themselves.
00:37:09.000I wonder how you, my beloved friends here in America, feel about the ongoing cynicism from the left and media institutions about Trump and how that is facilitated further by the failure to release the Epstein files or the ongoing wars or what seems to be a kind of inertia in global politics that's very difficult to interrupt.
00:37:30.000We'll be talking about that in more length later, but for now, on Trump's visit to the UK, it's pretty clear that what it does is exposes the unpopularity of Keir Starmer, the failure of contemporary bureaucracies when it comes to dealing with the complexity of migration, new media and censorship, and ultimately that the British people need at least an election and potentially a revolution.
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00:40:01.000Let's tackle this rather challenging and sad story about these murders in New York.
00:40:09.000Let's have a look at what the legacy media are saying about it.
00:40:13.000Shimoni, you hear John's reporting that they do know what he looks like.
00:40:17.000Male, possibly white, mustache, sunglasses in that building, isolated to, they believe, to various locations, including upper floors is where they're focused.
00:40:27.000Okay, some people are comparing it to the Mangioni, Luigi Mangioni murders in that it seems to be an ideologically motivated and targeted attempt at terror rather than the old school sort of mass shootings, sadly often take place often at schools.
00:40:45.000The gunman was apparently targeting the NFL offices and went to the wrong location, some people are saying.
00:40:52.000Although I thought that where he ended up had a bunch of like sort of global corporate entities in it.
00:40:58.000Let's have a look at, yeah, I guess you lot are interested because it's just talking about race.
00:41:02.000And you've noticed probably that the legacy media don't report on the racial identity of an assailant if he's not white.
00:41:41.000Bradley, we've seen videos now of police in Las Vegas searching the suspect's home.
00:41:47.000Since we last talked to you, are we hearing anything new about a possible motive?
00:41:54.000Alona Jacob, we know from New York City's mayor that this suspect, this shooter, was found with a note yesterday where he blamed the attack on his belief that he had CTE, the brain condition that we have seen in some NFL players.
00:42:10.000He claimed he was suffering from that and that he blamed the NFL for it.
00:42:14.000The NFL, one of the companies headquartered in this Midtown building, there is evidence that this shooter was a standout high school player, but no evidence that he ever attempted to play for the NFL or had an NFL career.
00:42:28.000But certainly authorities are looking at all the details here to get a more complete picture of why this shooter came here and what was driving him.
00:42:37.000And the NFL overnight said they are stepping up security, even though officials say that this was a lone wolf attack and there's no ongoing threat to the public.
00:42:45.000Wow, and he drove cross-country to get there, too.
00:42:47.000Okay, Bradley, what do we know about the victims of the shooting?
00:42:54.000We are learning more about these four victims, including one who is a Blackstone employee.
00:43:00.000That company confirming that this morning.
00:43:02.000And we're also learning more about the NYPD officer who was shot and killed, Officer Diderel Islam.
00:43:09.000He's a 36-year-old man, a three-and-a-half-year veteran of the force, Jacob.
00:43:14.000And the mayor praised him overnight, said he was defending the city when this happened.
00:43:20.000And we have learned that he was a married father of two young boys, and his wife is now expecting their third child.
00:43:26.000So she is among the many families that are grieving this morning, Jacob.
00:43:58.000People are returning to the office buildings here.
00:44:01.000But we also know that it wasn't just this building that was affected yesterday.
00:44:05.000Multiple buildings in this area were locked down for hours.
00:44:09.000So this was a traumatic experience for thousands and thousands of Midtown office workers.
00:44:14.000This is one of the busiest office sectors in the entire country.
00:44:17.000And we know that in some cases companies are telling their employees to work from home or take the day off today as this whole city grapples with this tragic event.
00:44:29.000Okay, well we don't really want to contribute to the politicization of this sad shooting.
00:44:36.000Unheard have commented that already the tragedy is being used to discredit Mamdani's mayoral beard.
00:44:42.000Can somebody in Uganda please wake Zoran up?
00:44:44.000A copy is dead, tweeted the Fox News writer David Marcus, referring to Mamdani's trip to his land of birth to celebrate his wedding in 2020.
00:44:51.000Mamdani called for the defunding of the police.
00:44:55.000All right, let's have a look at, I suppose, for a minute, let's pay attention to the ongoing and potentially pivotal Epstein files.
00:45:06.000You know, in spite of Trump's entreaty that we forget about it and it don't matter, people are still pretty interested, as we've said on this show before, because it forms a kind of locus of how deep state power might operate.
00:45:18.000Are there sets of individuals that have been blackmailed, shamed, I suppose is the word, through sexual conduct that's been recorded or otherwise documented that subsequently used against them?
00:45:28.000I guess that's what most people think that the Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell case refers to and points to, and unless we find a way of dealing with our shame, our sin, and brokenness, these kind of levers will be used against corrupted and corruptible human beings who are all fallen and broken, if you ask me.
00:45:45.000Trump's answered a bunch of questions on the subject, but I'm pretty interested to see that Joe Rogan said that he knew that Cash Patel was lying on the subject of Epstein when he was on the Joe Rogan podcast.
00:45:56.000Let's have a look at Rogan's testimony, give the word, here, and then we'll look at what Trump said in a recent conversation where he answered a load of questions on the subject.
00:46:09.000The Epstein stuff is so crazy because when Cash Patel was on here and he was like, there's nothing.
00:46:16.000And I was like, what are you talking about?
00:46:29.000Everyone knows it doesn't make any sense.
00:46:32.000Let's just, and then he didn't know about the Michael Badden stuff, the autopsy stuff, where it showed that he had three broken bones in his neck, which never happens when you hang yourself.
00:46:43.000Even when you like leap from somewhere with a rope around your neck and it snaps your neck, you never have three broken bones.
00:46:52.000He's not launching himself off the first floor balcony.
00:46:56.000So like Joe Rogan continues to point out that there are pretty glaring inconsistencies when it comes to this Epstein case.
00:47:04.000And I often feel like when something don't make sense is because there's a concealed iceberg of data that without the revelation thereof, it will continue to be a sort of a blunt, sort of a muddled and confusing story.
00:47:20.000I remember there's a bunch of high-profile stories, in fact, all of them.
00:47:23.000That whole category of conspiracy theory stories, whether it's 9-11, the murder of JFK, the handling of COVID, UFOs, the Clintons and all the suicides, the reason there are these anomalies is because there's a big concealed set of facts that were they revealed, oh, it would all make sense.
00:47:52.000And the reason it's become so important is because it suggests that whether or not you vote for a populist and powerful and well-supported leader like Donald Trump, you still have an avenue of institutional powers that you cannot access.
00:48:07.000And I think that's really frustrating for a lot of people.
00:48:09.000All the more so after how, like, you know, we covered the Bongino story the other day when you get sort of weird cryptic posts where someone like Bongino has lived in both worlds.
00:48:17.000This world of spread stay free, free speech, contemporary independent media, and now is within them institutions of power, and he seemingly is stymied by the same interests and limitations.
00:48:30.000And I suppose what that does is it makes you wonder if the appointment of Dan Bongino was a kind of tactical appointment, you know, precisely for that reason.
00:48:39.000Let's have a look, you know, because he's credible.
00:48:42.000Let's have a look at Trump building a bunch of questions.
00:48:44.000If you're watching this on YouTube, click the link in the description.
00:48:47.000We can't speak this freely on YouTube, who are themselves avowed members of the trusted news initiative organisation that are align when it comes to reporting on a story.
00:48:56.000Whenever you see a news story reported on in unison by a variety of outlets, it's likely been through that filter.
00:49:04.000Facebook, YouTube, the BBC, the New York Times, they're all part of this kind of cartel of media outlets that have definitely got skin in the game when it comes to reporting on independent media.
00:49:17.000Of course, they want more censorship because it will benefit them because the rise of independent media is in part as a result of the unwillingness of central media organisations to report openly on complex news stories, indeed, like the Epstein files.
00:49:31.000So if you've been paying attention to someone like Whitney Webb, who has been honest and candid and intrepid, reporting with brilliant detail, speaking to witnesses and victims, then you'll be well informed when it comes to the Epstein files.
00:49:44.000And you'll know that there's a requirement for independent media and there's a requirement to oppose censorship in all its forms.
00:52:49.000That sort of makes sense, unless it was also so detrimental to them, because you've got to assume, you know, some of them legacy names from the Democrats are going to be all over it.
00:53:07.000It's pretty niche to be down with underage sex.
00:53:10.000And it seems more likely that the people that pose as morally unimpeachable are the ones that you want to look at when it comes to the filthy, nefarious, devil-worshipping paedophilians.
00:53:25.000Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
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00:55:57.000Join us over on Rumble, where we'll be talking about how the UK has become a police state and how it legitimizes that, of course, by claiming that authoritarian measures are for your benefit rather than simply put in place in order to control you.
00:56:14.000We're highlighting this, of course, because Trump's visit has shown Starma for the kind of leader he is.
00:56:19.000A little bit of a milk sop, a bit of a moon calf, a bit of a soppy soddle, sat there squirming in his own bottom sweat.
00:56:26.000Sad little occasion, really, in many ways.
00:56:28.000Let's talk, though, about the important issues behind these peculiar characters.
00:56:32.000Vivid and lucid in the case of dear Donald Trump and somewhat insipid in the case of Starmer.
00:56:41.000Here are the legacy media reporting on the protests and some would say riots in the UK that have risen up this summer over the issue of migration.
00:56:51.000Many people frustrated that guest houses and hotels are being apportioned and paid for by British taxpayers in order to handle the flow of illegal migration into the UK.
00:57:04.000In a country that truly has free speech, people would be free, of course, wouldn't they, to voice their concerns about these subjects.
00:57:11.000And in a real democracy, you would have a referenda on that subject.
00:57:15.000If you had a government that were truly responsive to their population, they would govern in accordance with the will of the people.
00:57:20.000And it's pretty clear that the people are concerned about migration, want to reduce it, eliminate it, reverse it even.
00:57:27.000And whether you agree with that or not, in a democracy, you would have to, of course, govern in accordance with the will of the people.
00:57:35.000Therefore, if that's what the people want, you'd have to do it.
00:57:38.000Let's have a look at how the legacy media are tackling the idea that Britain has got a very particular position on migration right now, and that the way that that problem is being tackled is by censoring the views of people that are concerned about migration rather than dealing with the issue about which they are concerned, migration itself.
00:57:58.000The rain has really dampened things down.
00:58:01.000Until a short time ago, there were hundreds and hundreds of people here protesting outside the Brook Hotel.
00:58:08.000We're on the outskirts of Norwich, very much against the fact that asylum seekers are being put up inside that hotel.
00:58:17.000Then on the other side of the road, on the other side of the roundabout, was a group of people very much in support of those people who've come to this country, many of them on small boats.
00:59:13.000When there's a medical crisis in our lives, don't you want competent doctors to step in and help you with your children?
00:59:19.000Or if you're in a legal situation that's complicated, don't you want competent, well-informed lawyers to handle your deal, your scenario?
00:59:26.000Generally, though, you want to be left alone, don't you?
00:59:29.000You don't want to feel the encroachment of government in your life.
00:59:32.000COVID was interesting because it showed me that some people clearly like authoritarianism, like being told to wear a mask or get in their house or take medication or wherever it is.
00:59:58.000You can't have a football team if both the teams playing are the same team and you both have the same agenda, right?
01:00:03.000I suppose that's just a very reductive way of describing it.
01:00:07.000This migration issue has become a testing point because people are dissatisfied.
01:00:12.000And whether it's as a result of migration or not, people sense and feel that it is.
01:00:18.000I believe in general, both ends of the political spectrum benefit from people focusing on migration as the central issue.
01:00:26.000Because my personal belief is migrants are a group that are somewhat dispossessed and don't have a great deal of power.
01:00:32.000If you don't have a great deal of power, how can you possibly be significantly impacting power itself?
01:00:38.000You can't be, not by my reckoning at least.
01:00:41.000That's not to say that powerful interests don't benefit from the tensions that arise from mass migration and that replacement theory might be a thing and just causing disruption and social tension by importing people from different cultures might possibly be a tactic of those that benefit from globalization more broadly, social and social discontent.
01:01:01.000Where this story gets, in my view, less contentious is when it comes to how it's being handled online, how reporting on it is being censored, how people discussing it is being censored.
01:01:11.000And indeed, this is the hub and nexus of our story today because an elite team of police officers have been set up to monitor social media reporting and even conversation on the subject of migration.
01:01:25.000So not just independent media figures like say Tommy Robinson, who's coming on the show later this week, who's been subject to not only censorship, but actual incarceration for contempt of court, which is an illegal thing.
01:01:38.000But most people sense that Tommy Robinson is being maligned because he's disruptive and problematic.
01:01:44.000Indeed, would there, let me know in the comments and chat, be a rape gang inquiry in the UK were it not for Tommy Robinson's documentary and Elon Musk's posting of that documentary on X?
01:02:30.000And off the record, we talked about a sense of tension across the UK, social unrest.
01:02:37.000It's pretty inevitable that there will be riots in the UK, particularly when you look not just at the migration issue, but the agricultural issue that we touch on sometimes, the general inherited despair from the COVID period.
01:02:51.000The tensions and concerns around migration are sort of paramount.
01:02:56.000But in general, people feel hugely dissatisfied in that country.
01:03:01.000The division assembled by the Home Office will aim to maximise social media intelligence gathering after police forces were criticised over their response to last year's riots.
01:03:11.000It comes amid growing concerns that Britain is facing another summer of disorder as protests outside asylum hotels spread.
01:03:17.000On Saturday, crowds gathered in towns and cities, including Norwich, Lees and Bournemouth, to demand action, with more protests planned for Sunday.
01:03:25.000But critics on Saturday night branded the social media plans disturbing and raised concerns over whether they would lead to restrictions of free speech.
01:03:32.000Chris Phelp, the Shadow Home Secretary, said, Tuti Akir can't police the streets, so he's trying to police opinions instead.
01:03:39.000They're setting up a central team to monitor what you post, what you share, what you think, because deep down they know the public don't buy what they're selling.
01:03:46.000Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.
01:03:49.000Labour have stopped pretending to fix Britain and they've started trying to mute it.
01:03:53.000This is a prime minister who's happy to turn Britain into a surveillance state, but won't deport foreign criminals, won't patrol high streets, won't fund frontline policing.
01:04:06.000Labor don't even know the public, Nigel Farage, the reform UK leader, said.
01:04:10.000This is the beginning of state-controlled free speech.
01:04:13.000It's sinister, dangerous, and must be fought.
01:04:16.000It's a further sign of dissent over the government's approach to social media.
01:04:20.000In a further sign of dissent, campaigners claimed on Saturday that posts about anti-migrant protests in the past week have been censored because of new online safety laws.
01:04:30.000The new unit called the National Internet Intelligence Investigation Team will work out of the National Police Coordination Centre.
01:04:38.000Extraordinary and interesting, the measures that are taken and the means that the government will undergo to justify these new measures.
01:04:46.000Let's have a look at this report in Modilla.
01:04:49.000With the protesters on this side pushing against the police, shouting, swearing, and then there was a surge maybe 100 meters or so up the road and it appeared that Someone was going to be arrested, and that possibly a decision was made not to do that.
01:05:07.000Since then, we've heard people coming past, beeping their horns in support.
01:05:12.000You can hear that now, but far fewer people here than there were.
01:05:17.000Now, I did have a chance to speak to some people, many reluctant campians, certainly those supporting those in the hotel.
01:05:42.000The people in this hotel are able to get a dentist.
01:05:45.000He said that, as well as the food that they have inside that hotel, they're given meal tickets, he said, to be able to go to the restaurant across the road.
01:05:54.000And he just said that that simply wasn't right.
01:05:58.000He also talked about being on the bus with his eight-year-old son.
01:06:05.000If you feel that in your country, you don't have access to the resources for which you have personally paid and for which your relatives and ancestors have paid and, in some cases, sacrificed their lives, it's going to create social tension.
01:06:17.000The working class in the UK have been maligned for a long while now.
01:06:21.000The Brexit period was what highlighted that most severely is that the professional classes that operate primarily in media, and although this woman and her accent are a welcome change to the normal received pronunciation that defines the airwaves, the vilification of working class people has been a long-standing project.
01:06:43.000And I feel that in my country where you can't get doctor's appointments or dentist's appointments and you hear that migrants are getting access to these things, however significant that is within the overall picture, the overall economic decline and crisis of meaning and cohesion, however important the migration issue is as a portion of it, it impacts people.
01:07:04.000In the same way that when you get the sense that those governing, Kierstarma specifically in this instance, have stronger affiliations with global bureaucratic bodies than they do with the people they're supposed to be governing, that impacts you.
01:07:16.000You can see there's been an attempt to pivot by Kierstarma.
01:07:18.000He's like using the union jack more, talking about nationalism more, but you can't mask what appears to be the insidious ongoing presence of a professional class that hate ordinary people in Britain.
01:07:30.000The Hillary Clinton basket of deplorables moment was the, I suppose, the icon of these sentiments in your country, the United States.
01:07:39.000In my country, class is a more robust and consistently divisive dynamic deployed to enhance separation among ordinary people.
01:07:48.000And again, I believe the focus on migration as the key issue creates more tension that can never hope to resolve.
01:07:55.000In a sense, what we really need to focus on is the values upon which Britain is built.
01:08:01.000And those values are, by my reckoning, Christian, and historically they are Christian as well, because we can sort of get into that in a minute.
01:08:08.000But my point is this, that if people don't feel that they have impact and meaning in their communities, their families and their lives, if they feel that the people that are governing them are interested in only getting them a kowtow and controlling them, shutting down their free speech, importing people to share in resources that they haven't paid for while at the top tier of society,
01:08:31.000there's an endless flow of resources and power to bureaucracies and corporations that don't participate in the building of a nation or the cohesion of a nation.
01:08:40.000In the end, there will be disputes, disobedience, and even rioting.
01:08:48.000There are some, I suppose, aspects of this story that encourage a little bit of optimism.
01:08:54.000There are new political parties emerging in the UK on both the left and the right.
01:08:59.000But my sense is that unless we are willing to form alliances that go beyond the traditional political taxonomies, we're doomed to be controlled in much the manner we have been for decades, for the last few decades.
01:09:17.000The UK is now officially a police state.
01:09:19.000It's become precisely what Orwell warned about.
01:09:22.000Criticise mass migration and you can expect the police to come to your home.
01:09:25.000And judges will give longer sentences for wrongthink than many violent crimes.
01:09:29.000What I think is notable when it comes to referencing George Orwell is George Orwell was perhaps commentating on social democracies.
01:09:37.000The liberal democracies lead to tyranny.
01:09:40.000Not just centralized, explicit state communism, but even when you're told that you're living in a liberal free culture where you can buy what you want, watch what you want, say what you want.
01:09:50.000In fact and in truth, you're being controlled by centralized forces that don't even have the common decency to make you dress in a grey oiler suit and bow down before Stalin.
01:10:00.000It was told to me, explained to me, that Orwell knew about Soviet communism.
01:10:05.000Soviet communism was well underway at the time that Orwell wrote 1984, that his predictions and prognosis pertained to social democracies.
01:10:15.000And if that were the case, it's an interesting theory, if that were the case, he was right because we are now seeing how liberal democracies tend towards centralized control, all apparently for your benefit.
01:10:27.000In order to keep you free and to protect the children, we've seen him say it today.
01:10:31.000We have to control online speech because children are committing suicide.
01:10:34.000No one wants children committing suicide.
01:10:35.000In order to protect you from this virus, we have to lock you in your home.
01:10:38.000In order to protect you from this virus, you have to take these medications.
01:10:42.000We're beginning, aren't we, to understand how these tropes operate.
01:10:45.000In order to protect you, we have to control you.
01:10:48.000So you have to decide whether or not you want to be protected, stroke, controlled by these powerful elites, or whether you would prefer to take your chances with local government, local governance, and most of all, opposition towards the establishment and its centralized power.
01:11:06.000And that you might want more than to change the livery, color, and hue of your tyrant.
01:11:11.000You might want to change the system itself.
01:11:14.000And you will be able to do that with a technology that exists.
01:11:27.000To distract you from that fact, they are highlighting issues that are emotive, like exploitation of children, migration, national identity.
01:11:36.000In order to overcome it, we have to be sincere in our belief and our faith and willing to sacrifice in order to take back our country.
01:11:57.000Tomorrow, Rand Paul will be on the show.
01:12:00.000I've got some interesting things to discuss with Rand Paul.
01:12:03.000And coming up soon, our exclusive interview with Tommy Robinson, where I'll be talking about many of the issues that we've discussed today, as well as how we manage to exist compassionately and in some kind of unity in these divisive times.