Stay Free - Russel Brand - “SHOULD I EAT MEAT?!” Paul Saladino Recommends Russell Converts To Carnivore Diet! - Stay Free #191

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00:00:49.000 Hello there you awakening wonders.

00:00:51.000 I couldn't be more honoured that you have joined us for conversation, connection and love.

00:00:57.000 A time when it feels sometimes that we're on the precipice of real disaster.

00:01:00.000 When the people in Maui are suffering because of these fires.

00:01:04.000 When there are conspiracies everywhere that it was in all good with ill intent and will benefit the elites and establishment that we're coming to detest.

00:01:12.000 I want to offer out to you the spirit of love and friendship.

00:01:16.000 I welcome you with an open heart and an open mind to whoever you are and wherever you're from and tell you now with clarity that you belong in this movement.

00:01:24.000 You deserve to be who you are.

00:01:26.000 You can express yourself freely here.

00:01:28.000 For the first 15 minutes we're going to be on YouTube.

00:01:31.000 Then we will slide, glide and glide to the other place where free speech flows like abundant wine down from Mount Sinai,

00:01:39.000 not like the tablets of Moses, no, but like a liquor, like an ambrosia that will

00:01:43.000 light us up and change our consciousness.

00:01:46.000 Let's partake in this ceremony together. We're going to be talking about when RFK, friend

00:01:50.000 of the show, my pull-up opponent, went on Tucker and he talked about Ukrainian biolabs.

00:01:57.000 Now, I know those of you that are a little bit more in the conspiracy world, you knew about this stuff ages ago.

00:02:01.000 Let us know in the comments and chats, actually, if you were aware of that biolab story already.

00:02:06.000 Let us know if you were dismissed, called a crackpot on a tinfoil hat-wearing nut job as a result of espousing those theories.

00:02:12.000 Well, it seems that there's more credibility to them than we first thought.

00:02:16.000 In our item, here's the news.

00:02:18.000 We're gonna be looking at the investigation by special counsel.

00:02:20.000 Is this the story, Gal, my on-screen assistant and dear friend, that the person that's conducting this investigation is the person that gave the plea deal?

00:02:27.000 They negotiated the plea deal, yes.

00:02:29.000 He negotiated the plea deal and now he's gonna investigate?

00:02:31.000 Yeah, he's got special powers now though, Russ.

00:02:34.000 That's special powers.

00:02:35.000 Special powers now.

00:02:36.000 When he was doing the play, he had no powers.

00:02:38.000 No, there were just normal powers.

00:02:40.000 I've got normal powers here.

00:02:41.000 That's not going to be enough to learn.

00:02:43.000 Anything more than your name might be Robert.

00:02:46.000 Did you know that Hunter Biden's name was Robert?

00:02:47.000 Let us know in the chat.

00:02:48.000 If you're watching us on Rumble right now, why don't you join us in the locals chat there, like Ash Ella, and Tamara Spencer, and True Chimera, and Art by Wendy.

00:02:56.000 They're talking about conspiracy theories around Hawaii.

00:02:58.000 That's what they're chatting about now.

00:03:00.000 You'll love it.

00:03:01.000 I've got a great guest coming on.

00:03:02.000 He was recommended to me by none other than former SAS hero and TV superstar Bear Grylls.

00:03:08.000 He said to me, you've got to talk to Dr. Paul Saladino on your show.

00:03:13.000 He goes, Russell, You're a vegan, right?

00:03:13.000 You've got to.

00:03:15.000 I said, Bear, you know from our time together when we went on that adventure, did you take a glance at my kill?

00:03:21.000 And he said, of course I did.

00:03:22.000 I took that opportunity when he was there.

00:03:23.000 He goes, I'll go, so do you think I'm vegan?

00:03:25.000 He goes, I saw that you're a vegan.

00:03:27.000 And now I know that Bear's a carnivore from what I saw up there.

00:03:30.000 There's a barbecue on that grill! 0.97

00:03:33.000 There's a veena on the barbecue! 0.98

00:03:35.000 Lovely stuff.

00:03:36.000 Yeah?

00:03:36.000 There's a steak grilling up there!

00:03:39.000 Well, Paul Saladino, and this might sound crazy to you, and let me know if it does, because I don't want you feeling like you're listening to crazy talk here, because this is a movement, this is a revolution, this is where the pilgrims come, this is the place where we come to taste the sweet wine of freedom, I've told you that.

00:03:52.000 Dr. Paul Saladino says we shall be tanning our ball bags to within an inch of our life.

00:03:57.000 Now, I don't know if that contravenes WHO guidelines, so let me be careful, because on YouTube they've just updated their laws, Gareth, They're guidelines.

00:04:04.000 They call them guidelines, but let's face it, they're laws.

00:04:06.000 Because, you know, if you don't obey these guidelines, you're not just being guided down a line, you're being financially penalised if you don't listen.

00:04:13.000 And for all I know, the WHO don't like us tanning our nutsacks till they're a brighter shade of pale.

00:04:19.000 I'm surprised that's not something you and Bear Grylls did together.

00:04:22.000 Well we did actually, but it was an inadvertent side effect rather than the intention of our trip up to the Hedbradys.

00:04:28.000 Right, that wasn't the name of the show.

00:04:29.000 Weren't Russell Brand and Bear Grylls tanning their nutbags together?

00:04:33.000 No.

00:04:33.000 Bear Grylls told me some pretty exceptional... Bear Grylls sent me a photograph of me own father like a secret agent.

00:04:39.000 Like you know when like sort of in a... Say if you're watching a Tom Cruise film and like you're talking to the baddie and he's maybe played by Philip Seymour Hoffman, God rest his eternal soul.

00:04:49.000 Sure. 1.00

00:04:49.000 And like, he'll send you, like, you'll be like, listen, I got you, you son of a bitch. 1.00

00:04:53.000 And then, like, Philip Seymour Hoffman will send a picture of, like, your kids going to school or your wife at the supermarket. 0.99

00:04:58.000 That's what Philip Seymour Hoffman's terrorists would do in a film.

00:05:01.000 Sure, of course he would.

00:05:02.000 Classic move.

00:05:03.000 Classic!

00:05:04.000 That's classic Hoffman.

00:05:05.000 Like, well, like, this is, uh, Bear Grylls sent me a picture of my own dad on the front of a magazine from the 1980s.

00:05:10.000 Why's he, is he trying to intimidate you?

00:05:13.000 He did intimidate me and I was already intimidated from glaring up his kilt while I was running wild.

00:05:17.000 There was nothing wilder.

00:05:18.000 We're talking to Paul Saladino about carnivore diets.

00:05:21.000 Would you consider the carnivore diet?

00:05:23.000 Am I crazy being a vegan?

00:05:25.000 Is it the vegan way or is it the carnivore way?

00:05:25.000 Let me know.

00:05:28.000 Because tell you what, things are changing fast.

00:05:32.000 Which story do you want to hear first?

00:05:34.000 I'm going to consult our locals community on this.

00:05:36.000 Do you want to hear about Cornel West, who is as liberal and left as they come, slamming AOC and Bernie Sanders?

00:05:45.000 Do you want to start there? 0.96

00:05:46.000 Or do you want to start with rats in New York City that are the size of a slipper?

00:05:51.000 The size of a man's fist?

00:05:53.000 The size of a dog's elbow.

00:05:55.000 The size of the length of a pig's tail.

00:05:57.000 What's it gonna be? 0.68

00:05:58.000 Rats or Cornell?

00:05:59.000 We're doing Maui a little bit later.

00:05:59.000 Tell us, tell us.

00:06:02.000 Rats, rats, rats, rats.

00:06:03.000 People want rats. 0.98

00:06:04.000 Right. 0.94

00:06:04.000 Okay, let's have a look at these rats in New York City. 0.94

00:06:07.000 It's really weirdly reported on story. 0.66

00:06:08.000 We'll do Cornel West slamming Bernie Sanders after.

00:06:11.000 You'll love this because what it shows is that independent political figures are coming together like RFK and Cornel West and even the great avatar of the anti-establishment, Donald Trump, in alliance, at least in alliance in terms of the discourse, in terms of the critiques

00:06:26.000 they're offering of the establishment. 0.90

00:06:28.000 You're going to love this, but first, there's a rat in this city. What am I going to do?

00:06:32.000 Let's have a look.

00:06:33.000 The first anti-rat day of action was held in Harlem.

00:06:36.000 We've had rats the size of crocs.

00:06:40.000 Just running up and down the street. 0.61

00:06:41.000 Like a croc shoe.

00:06:43.000 Average size 8. 0.96

00:06:44.000 Like that, because it's a rat that's the size of a croc.

00:06:47.000 Not a crocodile, but a croc shoe.

00:06:49.000 She then offers some further guidance.

00:06:51.000 It's a size 8.

00:06:52.000 That's an average size 8.

00:06:54.000 So that's that big, is it?

00:06:56.000 Yeah, that's about right. 0.90

00:06:57.000 That's kind of what I'd imagine a... That's what I'd expect for a rat. 0.67

00:06:57.000 About that big? 0.67

00:07:00.000 A rat, yeah.

00:07:00.000 Also, the bit where she said, rather than running up and down the street... What, it goes up it, then down it?

00:07:04.000 Well, that's another thing that I would expect from a rat. 0.96

00:07:06.000 Rats, they're just up to their usual... They're not doing something... It's not like flying or something. 0.51

00:07:10.000 They're not doing something really odd.

00:07:11.000 Right. 0.74

00:07:12.000 It's that standard rat behaviour.

00:07:13.000 They're not wearing little straw boaters and singing barbershop quartet songs.

00:07:17.000 I'd like to draw your attention to that elegant rivulet of sweat running down that lady's mid-chest. 1.00

00:07:17.000 No. 1.00

00:07:24.000 But they're not becoming chefs.

00:07:26.000 Well, they are in the film Ratatouille, which I believe is an accurate portrayal of Parisian rat life. 0.95

00:07:31.000 Let's see what else these rats are up to. 0.98

00:07:34.000 Rats need food, water and shelter to survive.

00:07:38.000 For the rats?

00:07:39.000 Are we against the rats?

00:07:40.000 Is this a rat telephone?

00:07:42.000 For just one dollar, you can buy a rat a little chef hat and an apron so it can make it as a chef in Gastron or whatever it is in that restaurant in France.

00:07:52.000 She sounds like she's on the wrong side. 0.96

00:07:54.000 One team hates the rats. 0.92

00:07:55.000 They think they're too big like a shoe. 0.96

00:07:57.000 Other team love the rats.

00:07:59.000 Why don't they just try and work together?

00:08:01.000 Are you guys so different after all?

00:08:04.000 Today we're going to cut off their food source and reduce their habitat. 0.94

00:08:09.000 Take away the places they can live.

00:08:11.000 There you go.

00:08:12.000 So rats in New York City, normal size, normal measures being undertaken.

00:08:17.000 If you don't want to live in a rat infested city, don't give rats all of their delicious rat requirements really.

00:08:24.000 There's going to have to be a lot of work done on things like sanitation, but also the whole restaurant system, the food system, big food, corporations. 0.99

00:08:31.000 I mean, there's a lot of work.

00:08:32.000 You're going to have to start again from the beginning, because you know where there's a real infestation?

00:08:37.000 Washington!

00:08:38.000 Cronyism!

00:08:39.000 Capitalism!

00:08:41.000 Corruption!

00:08:42.000 Everywhere you look, but a friend of the show, Cornel West, He's getting stuck into the real problem by moving beyond partisan politics and into exactly the type of independent politics that we're advocating for.

00:08:54.000 Independent media.

00:08:55.000 Independent politics.

00:08:57.000 New voices in politics making new pledges.

00:09:00.000 That's precisely why Cornel West is interesting.

00:09:02.000 On a podcast, The Breakfast Club, he had this to say about Bernie and AOC.

00:09:07.000 Let's check him.

00:09:08.000 At the core of the Democratic Party is a rot.

00:09:12.000 And that rottenness is corporate greed.

00:09:15.000 So when I hear AOC, I say, okay, she's part of that progressive small slice of the Democratic Party, but she's given in to the perceptions of the corporate wing of that party.

00:09:27.000 And the corporate wing says over and over again, all we have is two parties.

00:09:31.000 It's freak and frack.

00:09:33.000 is Tweedledee and Tweedledum. Ha ha ha ha, Tweedledee and Tweedledum.

00:09:37.000 Cornel West offering us an accurate diagnosis. Both parties have been co-opted

00:09:42.000 by corporate and financial interests, are unable to offer us reasonable change. Isn't this

00:09:47.000 exactly the problem? Isn't that the reason why every indictment Trump receives simply amplifies

00:09:52.000 his popularity? Because it's the system itself that you have recognised is no longer

00:09:58.000 capable of serving you.

00:09:59.000 And isn't part of the problem crazy crackpot ideas like this?

00:10:03.000 Now Joe Biden's offering $700 to each household affected by the Hawaii fires.

00:10:08.000 Some are saying too little, too late.

00:10:10.000 It's at least an improvement from his no comment moment, where even as the president of a nation, he's unable to offer a few words of comfort.

00:10:18.000 to those suffering. Many of you saying, and let me know if you think this in the chat and the comments,

00:10:21.000 this is his Katrina. This is the moment where we finally see, where it's finally revealed, 0.52

00:10:26.000 even to his ardent fans. And God, it's impossible to imagine such a thing. But what we got there is

00:10:31.000 a figurehead for naught but ineptitude. Just the stooge, just the figure from the establishment,

00:10:37.000 incapable of offering anything but platitudes and bumbling, mumbled, half-arsed comments. Now,

00:10:44.000 $700 for each household affected by the fires. Check it. He also authorized one-time payments

00:10:51.000 of $700 per household to folks who've been displaced so they can do the immediate things

00:10:56.000 of just taking care of medications and prescription that they so badly need.

00:11:01.000 That's all well and good, but you know the $900 of your tax money is being paid already each year to continue to sustain this unwinnable war between Ukraine and Russia.

00:11:14.000 I don't think either side can win, but it seems that Russia are benefiting. 0.75

00:11:17.000 Do you know that the United States has spent more money on this conflict than Russia and yet claim not to be involved?

00:11:22.000 That's why we offered you this poll.

00:11:25.000 What do you think your tax dollars should be spent on?

00:11:27.000 Hawaiian aid or funding wars?

00:11:31.000 And of course, 97% of you want your tax dollars to build US infrastructure.

00:11:38.000 I'm sure you are compassionate and loving people.

00:11:41.000 I'm sure all of you share in our compassion for the people in Ukraine that are affected by this negative conflict that was criminally begun.

00:11:49.000 But it was of course provoked.

00:11:51.000 We've been through The various reasons that NATO's behaviour and ignoring treaties, or if not treaties, deals has exacerbated this condition.

00:11:51.000 We all know that now.

00:12:00.000 But how is sustaining this war beneficial to anyone but the military-industrial complex?

00:12:05.000 We need a radical review of this rather than what's happening right now.

00:12:09.000 Biden is going to Congress asking for $25 billion more of your money to sustain a war.

00:12:16.000 There simply cannot be one.

00:12:16.000 Yeah.

00:12:17.000 So that $900 is growing.

00:12:18.000 You know, that's in terms of, that $900 represents the $113 billion that I think has been spent so far.

00:12:24.000 But $25 billion now is going to be spent every quarter on the Ukraine war, on this ongoing war.

00:12:29.000 $900 already?

00:12:29.000 That is going up.

00:12:31.000 Not a dollar more on this war.

00:12:33.000 That's something that one of your presidential candidates could stand on.

00:12:38.000 RFK thinks the war should end.

00:12:39.000 Trump thinks the war should end.

00:12:41.000 Cornel West thinks that the war should end.

00:12:43.000 Who doesn't want the war to end?

00:12:45.000 The Biden administration.

00:12:46.000 Democrats, I think, used to frame themselves as the anti-war party.

00:12:50.000 They were disgusted by the Iraq war.

00:12:53.000 It's an easy mistake to make, but then I didn't start either of those wars, neither did I profit from either of them.

00:13:00.000 It's extraordinary, isn't it?

00:13:01.000 It's like there is no moral centre, there are no guiding principles other than the relentless pursuit of profit and propagandising a population to the point where we can't even ask reasonable and legitimate questions.

00:13:13.000 Yeah, and I think to go back to Cornel West and his criticism of AOC, you know, she's received criticism from Democrats themselves or Democratic supporters for endorsing Biden on the very same day that he said he was going to send cluster bombs to Ukraine to be used in that war.

00:13:28.000 Honestly?

00:13:29.000 The cluster bomb day? 0.66

00:13:29.000 Yeah. 0.66

00:13:30.000 That's right, on that day.

00:13:31.000 Clusterbomb Christmas!

00:13:32.000 Yeah, so when he says, you know, she's being co-opted or she now represents the same things, it feels like he's onto something there.

00:13:39.000 What do you guys think?

00:13:39.000 Let us know in the chat and the comments.

00:13:41.000 Listen, if you're watching us on YouTube right now, where your content is regulated by the WHO,

00:13:47.000 don't get me wrong, we love every single one of you, 6.5 million awakening wonders.

00:13:52.000 And that's why we are dedicated to bringing you the truth, including you in this conversation,

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00:14:00.000 We don't think we're smarter than you.

00:14:01.000 We don't think they're smarter than you.

00:14:03.000 We wanna know what you feel, what you think.

00:14:06.000 We think it's absolutely vital for this movement that we have your attention,

00:14:09.000 that we have as much dedication and devotion as you can offer us.

00:14:12.000 And you better believe me, I'm gonna give you everything I've got.

00:14:15.000 We're gonna be talking about Tukka and RFK and their recent discussion around Ukrainian biolabs.

00:14:20.000 Yet another of the extraordinary coincidences around this conflict.

00:14:24.000 Yet another trail where Ukraine leads to institutional, potentially corrupt figures.

00:14:30.000 Allegedly!

00:14:32.000 In this case Fauci, and in the case of Burisma, Robert Hunter Biden, who will be bringing you more on later when we look at the various tendrils that wrap around that peculiar tale.

00:14:44.000 So if you're watching this on YouTube, click the link in the description, join us over in the other place where free speech is truly free, where freedom and speech coalesce beautifully, Well, we can dance together around the totem pole of free speech in glorious and unselfconscious worship.

00:15:02.000 I see you over there.

00:15:03.000 We're going to be talking about biolabs in Ukraine.

00:15:05.000 You ain't going to want to miss out on that, baby.

00:15:08.000 Let's have a look at the conversation.

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00:15:27.000 Remember, we're talking to Dr. Paul Saladino a little later.

00:15:30.000 He may have salad in his name, he don't have it in his diet, I'll tell you that.

00:15:33.000 Because all he wants to do is bite into the side of an elk.

00:15:37.000 That's all he wants to do is drag an elk down by its antler and bite a hole in its chest. 0.63

00:15:41.000 That's right.

00:15:42.000 All he wants to do is flap out his ghoulies in the hot sun and warm them up like toast. 0.96

00:15:48.000 Apparently Tucker does this.

00:15:49.000 Have you heard this rumour?

00:15:51.000 Like that Tucker Carlson's already vitamin D'ing himself in the ball bag using Sweet Lady Sunshine as a natural salve.

00:15:58.000 He looks great.

00:15:59.000 He does look well.

00:16:00.000 I know we can't see them, but I've never dared even glance.

00:16:03.000 But I tell you, you know, of course, as you know, when I was in Tucker's garden with you, actually, I took the liberty of passing water on his property.

00:16:12.000 It was a risk.

00:16:13.000 His wife endorsed it.

00:16:14.000 She did.

00:16:15.000 When he came around our house, he went for a wee in our garden as well.

00:16:18.000 That's the kind of treaty we need.

00:16:21.000 Americans and English people putting aside their differences and piddling in each other's garden in the sweet spirit of love.

00:16:27.000 Did you know that about us?

00:16:28.000 Yeah, I do like talking about it, Nodaganoku.

00:16:31.000 Nodaganoku goes, do you like talking about it this way?

00:16:33.000 And I love it!

00:16:34.000 I love it, baby!

00:16:36.000 Kelly Page laughing, just laughing.

00:16:38.000 Okay, should we, oh yeah, so we'll talk about the nutbags a little bit later.

00:16:41.000 I can't believe I drove my car into a hedge this morning.

00:16:43.000 I spilled coffee all over my legs.

00:16:43.000 No, no.

00:16:45.000 Which came first?

00:16:46.000 The coffee legs.

00:16:47.000 Coffee legs.

00:16:48.000 First coffee legs, then hedge. 0.97

00:16:49.000 Right.

00:16:50.000 It's a tale as old as time, isn't it?

00:16:50.000 And I felt delirious.

00:16:52.000 A tale as old as time.

00:16:53.000 Coffee on your legs.

00:16:56.000 Driving to the hedge.

00:16:59.000 You broke your reg plate.

00:17:01.000 Beauty and the Beast.

00:17:04.000 Yeah, I feel bad about it because it made me feel that reality was breaking apart.

00:17:08.000 I'm always having that, like a little thing goes wrong, like you spill a coffee, and while I was going, oh no, I was really angry that I'd spilled the coffee and I couldn't have it no more, and I was looking at you, I was on the seat of the car, we were in it and that.

00:17:19.000 Did you think about licking it up a little bit?

00:17:21.000 Some of it went in this shoe.

00:17:23.000 Now, as you know, my favourite shoe is a Vivo Barefoot.

00:17:25.000 Those are the best shoes Sweet Lady Money can buy. 1.00

00:17:27.000 Oh, he loves those.

00:17:28.000 I love them.

00:17:29.000 He loves them.

00:17:29.000 But some coffee went in my shoe and I felt it pooling around my heel.

00:17:33.000 Oh dear.

00:17:34.000 Yesterday I stood on a slug and I felt it resist.

00:17:37.000 I felt it push back.

00:17:38.000 You shouldn't have to go through this.

00:17:39.000 It's disgusting the way I live.

00:17:40.000 And anyway, while I was thinking about all that, I drove into a hedge.

00:17:42.000 I didn't feel good about it.

00:17:43.000 Not one bit.

00:17:44.000 Not one bit.

00:17:45.000 There's a metaphor in there somewhere, isn't there?

00:17:47.000 Somewhere, I think, the universe is talking to us.

00:17:50.000 Ulterior forces are telling us the truth.

00:17:52.000 Let's have a look at Tucker and RFK now, talking about Ukrainian biolabs. 0.69

00:17:55.000 Let us know if you think there's a connection between these issues and this ongoing conflict.

00:18:00.000 And if you're watching us on Rumble, get over to Locals, where the conversation runs free.

00:18:05.000 Have a look at Tucker.

00:18:06.000 Toria Nuland kind of blithely announced during congressional testimony last year that, oh, by the way, we have these biolabs in Ukraine.

00:18:13.000 Yeah.

00:18:14.000 And that was kind of ignored, and the people who covered it got attacked for covering it, but the fact remains there are U.S.

00:18:20.000 biolabs in Ukraine.

00:18:21.000 Why would we have biolabs in Ukraine? 1.00

00:18:23.000 We have bio-weapons because we're developing bio-weapons and those bio-weapons are using all kinds of new synthetic biology and CRISPR technology and genetic engineering techniques that were not available to previous generation and they can make frightening, frightening stuff.

00:18:43.000 What happened was in You know, when we walked away from, when the Patriot Act reopened the bioepsis armories in 2001, the Pentagon began putting a lot of money into bioweapons, but they were nervous at that time.

00:19:02.000 Because if you violate Geneva, the Geneva Convention, it's a hanging offense.

00:19:07.000 And they weren't sure that that Provision in the Patriot Act would actually hold up as a loophole to treaties that had been ratified by Congress.

00:19:17.000 So they were nervous about actually going full force into bioweapons development.

00:19:22.000 So they transferred the authority for biosecurity to one agency in the HHS called the National Institute for Infectious and Allergic Diseases run by Anthony Fauci.

00:19:36.000 So, Anthony Fauci got all the responsibility for bioweapons development.

00:19:41.000 He got, at that time, a 68% raise from the Pentagon in order to do that work.

00:19:48.000 So, and that's why he was the highest paid official in American, in the American government of, you know, four, four million people in the American, he's the highest, he has more money, he got more money, $450,000 a year than the President.

00:20:03.000 Extraordinary figure, Anthony Fauci.

00:20:05.000 Certainly there are numerous accusations now accumulating, peculiar means of profiting, public declarations that have proven to be untrue, and to think that he was initially presented to us as a saviour during the early pandemic.

00:20:25.000 This is what authority should be like. Not this clown President 0.97

00:20:29.000 Donald Trump. This guy, Antony Fauci, a man who, when the moment came, was able to offer us the 0.97

00:20:35.000 scientific advice, the medical expertise that this pandemic required. Well, as time has

00:20:41.000 gone on, it seems that he's precisely the kind of profiteering bureaucratic figure that we should

00:20:46.000 be extremely cautious of. Unelected officials with incredible power, with extraordinary ways of

00:20:52.000 making money, not accountable to an electorate, not accountable in any of the ways that

00:20:58.000 democracy pledges that any official with that amount of power ought be.

00:21:03.000 Now we have these revelations around the biolabs. 1.00

00:21:08.000 Victoria Newland, Victoria Newland, One of those names, one of those figures that's not a politician but is always in and about various administrations.

00:21:17.000 Wasn't she in Ukraine around the time of the 2014 coup?

00:21:20.000 Correct.

00:21:21.000 How does she intersect with this story, mate?

00:21:25.000 So yeah, she's a State Department official.

00:21:28.000 She confirmed the existence of biological research laboratories in 2022.

00:21:32.000 Man, this was like, I thought this was spoken about as a conspiracy.

00:21:36.000 I remember when Ukraine Biolabs, at the beginning of this war, was a conspiracy theory territory.

00:21:40.000 Yeah it was and even this is being disputed but what people have spoken about with this clip in particular is the fact that she says we don't want them getting into Russian hands and so what they've kind of walked this back and said no it's just biological research it's not dangerous we're not developing weapons but then obviously the point that people were making was why are you worried about it getting into Russian hands if this isn't dangerous?

00:22:02.000 That doesn't make sense.

00:22:02.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:22:03.000 Both those things can't be true and there's just so little trust, isn't there?

00:22:06.000 I mean, it seems generally speaking that my automatic response is to resist authority.

00:22:13.000 Can you tell us in the chat where you lot stand?

00:22:15.000 Like, if someone tells me what to do, my sort of impulse, my visceral impulse in my gut is, I'm not doing that.

00:22:21.000 I don't like that you're telling me that.

00:22:22.000 I like to be consulted as an adult and as an equal.

00:22:26.000 This is what we suggest is best for you.

00:22:28.000 What do you want to do?

00:22:30.000 That's what I would say should be the premise and the framing for our relationship with the state.

00:22:34.000 Authority derived from consensus.

00:22:37.000 Authority that is governing along lateral lines.

00:22:42.000 Not hierarchies of power and dominion.

00:22:45.000 Because when you have Figures like Victoria Nuland do keep cropping up like some negative zealot all over history.

00:22:52.000 2014, during the coup, she's there.

00:22:54.000 She's worked for the Bush administration, I think.

00:22:55.000 I think she worked under the Clinton administration.

00:22:58.000 She's still at work now.

00:22:59.000 She has some interesting marital relationships.

00:23:02.000 I think she's married to figures that operate within the same field.

00:23:05.000 It seems, doesn't it, increasingly, that there's a cadre of political apparatchiks that are not put there by us, but are paid for by us.

00:23:14.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:15.000 And Glenn Greenwald writes about the ways, obviously, the connection that the RFK is making there is Fauci and COVID, obviously, in terms of the gain of function research, which is done in the name of being defensive.

00:23:28.000 You know, that's the whole point.

00:23:30.000 But Glenn talks about the way in which defensive research can easily be converted into extremely destructive biological weapons.

00:23:36.000 Anthrax being the example.

00:23:38.000 That's a great example.

00:23:39.000 It's the prime example.

00:23:40.000 And this is what RFK wrote about in his book, The Real Antony Fauci.

00:23:44.000 And at that point, I was looking at that book with its tiny print and its difficult premise and its difficult content as well, thinking, I never imagined that RFK would become a presidential candidate and a prominent figure in the international discourse.

00:23:58.000 But he was saying exactly that.

00:23:59.000 that as a result of the Patriot Act it became possible to do good kind of

00:24:03.000 experiments that previously been adjudged to be dangerous and that they

00:24:07.000 had somehow conflated bioweapons with vaccines and there were some

00:24:12.000 extraordinary liberties being taken again with taxpayer money. What's

00:24:17.000 Greenwald saying Gal? Yeah I mean in terms of the anthrax what he says is

00:24:22.000 according to the FBI the 2001 anthrax attacks that terrorized the nation came

00:24:26.000 Army research scientist, Dr. Bruce Ivins, working at the U.S.

00:24:30.000 Army's Infectious Disease Research Lab in Fort Detrick, Maryland.

00:24:34.000 The claim was that the Army was merely conducting defensive research to find vaccines and other protections against weaponized anthrax, but to do so, the Army had to create highly weaponized anthrax strains, which Ivins then unleashed as a weapon.

00:24:45.000 Brilliant.

00:24:46.000 How extraordinary.

00:24:47.000 I mean, isn't that the entire mRNA research mentality?

00:24:51.000 That we have to create these entities and these pathogens, pathogens, in order to cure and heal them.

00:24:59.000 I can't help but think we need a radical revision of all of our systems of research and the way that science is funded and conducted.

00:25:06.000 Nobody asked me!

00:25:07.000 Nobody asked me if I wanted that done.

00:25:10.000 I find it astonishing that you have to develop lethal anthrax in order to solve the problem of lethal anthrax, and that'll all be okay if the story was then, and that's how we solved that lethal anthrax attack, rather than, this is how we created a perpetual war economy, and how we don't, I don't feel safer than I felt at the start of the Patriot Act era.

00:25:30.000 No, and also, you know, when you've got headlines that we know about from the Telegraph at the moment about the next pandemic, we're always reading about the next pandemic and how many people it's going to kill and what are the kind of measures that the WHO are going to have to bring in.

00:25:42.000 When we know that the potential that through this kind of research for things like COVID being created, you think, well, that...

00:25:51.000 Well, they're priming us for a pandemic that's much worse.

00:25:54.000 They're doing experimentation that is, by its nature and by intent, dangerous.

00:26:00.000 And of course, I'm not suggesting that they would deliberately release things from laboratories.

00:26:05.000 I don't think anyone's claiming that.

00:26:06.000 Anyone claiming that?

00:26:06.000 Is anyone claiming that?

00:26:07.000 Remember, you can speak freely in the locals chat.

00:26:09.000 Press the red button and talk there.

00:26:11.000 Remember, we've love to each other, with pure love.

00:26:13.000 What's the point?

00:26:14.000 There's enough hate in this crazy world.

00:26:15.000 So yeah, you're right.

00:26:17.000 It feels like it's like almost like we've been prepared for another Mission Impossible movie.

00:26:20.000 Coming soon, another pandemic.

00:26:22.000 Bigger, better.

00:26:23.000 Tom Cruise is gonna jump out of a lab with pathogens and spray them into your eyes in a burning train.

00:26:30.000 I mean, like, they're sort of selling us the next pandemic.

00:26:33.000 I'm very cynical.

00:26:34.000 Do you know just a mate of mine who's a person who's not involved in politics, doesn't even watch my content, we were chatting about the pandemic, and he goes, you know, at the beginning of it, we all just thought we was doing what was right.

00:26:43.000 It was lockdown, we all had to do what we were told.

00:26:44.000 He goes, I won't be doing that again.

00:26:47.000 This is a person that's not inside the political establishment or media establishment or any of those establishments.

00:26:54.000 I think most of us have had enough of being told what to do.

00:26:56.000 I don't think anyone trusts the establishment anymore.

00:26:59.000 I don't think any of us want mainstream media to prevail while independent media is censored and surveilled.

00:27:06.000 I think that the tide is turning.

00:27:08.000 Things are changing.

00:27:09.000 I think people believe in freedom of speech.

00:27:11.000 They believe in free speech.

00:27:12.000 Of course they do.

00:27:13.000 And where freedom meets speech, you get free speech.

00:27:15.000 And where free means speech, you get freech.

00:27:18.000 Let's have a look at some of this free speech.

00:27:26.000 They're chatting pretty freely over there.

00:27:28.000 The boss says, I would like ten cases of Russell's Kombucha flavoured vile slops, please.

00:27:33.000 Where do I sign up?

00:27:34.000 We are experimenting even now.

00:27:35.000 If you take a look at Gallery Cam, you'll see the team.

00:27:38.000 Yes, ostensibly what they're working on is our online show here on Rumble.

00:27:42.000 Stay free of Russell Brand.

00:27:43.000 But in their hearts, they are making vile slops. 0.99

00:27:45.000 In their abdomens, they're making vile slops. 0.95

00:27:47.000 Under the desk, I think.

00:27:47.000 They're making vile slops with their loins.

00:27:49.000 Yes.

00:27:50.000 We're brewing it up.

00:27:51.000 We're brewing it up in our cellars, even now.

00:27:53.000 So if you want Vileslops, and if you can pitch a better name than Vileslops, could there be... Do you actually... Can you... Nodaganoku says, can you actually call your kombucha Vileslops?

00:28:02.000 Yeah, we can.

00:28:04.000 Make a dark fruits version, says PrimalColin2.

00:28:06.000 It's the only flavour.

00:28:08.000 The dark fruits of Vileslops.

00:28:10.000 The lids of vile slops will be nips, says jimurfc137.

00:28:14.000 I like you.

00:28:15.000 That's a good suggestion.

00:28:17.000 Nip lids? 0.95

00:28:18.000 Flip the nip. 0.89

00:28:19.000 Drink the slops.

00:28:20.000 That's our slogan.

00:28:21.000 We haven't made the drink yet, but we've got the slogans and the flavours slotted.

00:28:21.000 Wow.

00:28:24.000 The dark fruits.

00:28:26.000 Do you want... fart juice? 0.58

00:28:27.000 I'm not calling that pride farts. 0.99

00:28:29.000 Not cum butch. 0.99

00:28:30.000 Oh God. 0.99

00:28:31.000 Grow up!

00:28:32.000 Don't use your free speech!

00:28:34.000 Don't use your free speech to make spunk jokes!

00:28:38.000 BFG says, talking about the world coin. 0.93

00:28:42.000 You know, you see that dirty little orb?

00:28:43.000 We did a great video on this. 0.98

00:28:45.000 That dirty little eye sucker orb sucking out your eye juice and telling you what's what. 1.00

00:28:50.000 World coin sounds sinister as fuck. 1.00

00:28:52.000 Thanks for the heads up! 0.99

00:28:55.000 Nice one, mate.

00:28:56.000 Knocked it on the bonce, didn't we? 1.00

00:28:56.000 Sinister as fuck. 1.00

00:28:58.000 Here's some PBD comments. 1.00

00:29:01.000 We had on the show Patrick David.

00:29:04.000 There he is.

00:29:06.000 I like him.

00:29:07.000 He's a very successful man and he shares our space and we're all friends together in this space.

00:29:07.000 I'm not criticising him.

00:29:12.000 But he kept going hypothetical situations to me.

00:29:16.000 There's nothing you hate less than a hypothetical situation.

00:29:18.000 I don't like it.

00:29:19.000 Right, okay.

00:29:21.000 1947, and you had nine mouseticks lined up on a wall.

00:29:24.000 Which one of them mouseticks is gonna fall first, east or west?

00:29:27.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:29:28.000 Because when someone makes you do a hypothetical thing, it's like you're in a sort of little game now, aren't you?

00:29:33.000 You're in the car.

00:29:34.000 You've got a coffee on your lap.

00:29:35.000 Wait, hold on.

00:29:36.000 You spill the coffee. 1.00

00:29:37.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:29:38.000 Oh, no! 1.00

00:29:38.000 You look down. 1.00

00:29:39.000 What happens next?

00:29:40.000 My ball bag!

00:29:41.000 I mean, no, I've crashed into a hedge!

00:29:43.000 It's the hedge.

00:29:44.000 Yeah, that's what happened.

00:29:45.000 How did you know that, PPD?

00:29:47.000 I know a lot.

00:29:48.000 Should I put my ball bag out of the window?

00:29:50.000 Should I stretch it long? 1.00

00:29:52.000 Should I suck my own ball like a lozenge? 1.00

00:29:55.000 Would it cure the common cold? 1.00

00:29:56.000 Could it fight off COVID-19, BBD?

00:30:00.000 Anyway, someone here says, uh, Chief411, never ever give Russell a hypothetical.

00:30:05.000 Because what I started to do, someone goes, who is this guy, Robert De Niro?

00:30:08.000 That's Dawny Girl's idea. 1.00

00:30:10.000 No, he's good.

00:30:11.000 He's had, like, you know, Tate on there and Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:30:11.000 He's really good.

00:30:14.000 He's really good on economics.

00:30:16.000 But I disagree with him on some stuff he said about single mums.

00:30:18.000 We're allowed to disagree.

00:30:20.000 Healthy debate.

00:30:20.000 That's good.

00:30:21.000 Free speech, healthy debate.

00:30:22.000 That's what we're doing here.

00:30:22.000 That's what we're doing now.

00:30:23.000 Swipe me up! 1.00

00:30:24.000 Swipe me up! 1.00

00:30:24.000 And anyway, when he started giving me help for hypothetical situations, I started to really make them weirder. 1.00

00:30:29.000 Yeah, of course you did.

00:30:31.000 In my hypothetical situation, I made a tit milk dairy and talked about incest and stuff like that.

00:30:36.000 But it's alright.

00:30:37.000 It's all good fun.

00:30:38.000 Good.

00:30:38.000 None but some pals living life to the full, I say.

00:30:44.000 Hunter Biden.

00:30:44.000 Ian Drummer goes, his name is Hunter Biden, but maybe Russell should be called the Biden Hunter.

00:30:51.000 Yeah, well, hunt him down.

00:30:52.000 Oh, I see.

00:30:53.000 But I'd hunt down Joe Biden more.

00:30:55.000 It wouldn't be difficult, you'd have thought, because he can't move that quickly.

00:30:58.000 Even when he was doing that speech a bit earlier, it's like he had to summons up every bit of it.

00:31:04.000 It's like he's pulling the words up from his sphincter and they've got a long way to go, you know, because his sphincter, it might have been externalised now, like a duck egg.

00:31:18.000 Got it.

00:31:19.000 Like a boy penguin's looking after the duck egg to get it.

00:31:21.000 Okay.

00:31:24.000 Hey, listen guys, do you want to know the truth?

00:31:27.000 Should we be slinging our ball bags onto an aluminium foil tray, baking them in the hot, hot sun?

00:31:34.000 And what about you ladies out there?

00:31:36.000 You've got to cook up them labia till they're golden brown, textured like sun.

00:31:41.000 What have we got to do to be free?

00:31:44.000 Paul Saladino, him be on the show now.

00:31:47.000 How's it going, Doctor?

00:31:49.000 Good to see you, Russell.

00:31:50.000 Thanks for having me on.

00:31:51.000 I'm so happy that you're here.

00:31:52.000 You were recommended to me by our mutual friend, Bear Grylls.

00:31:56.000 He just simply texted me, you've got to have Paul Saladino on the show.

00:32:01.000 And for that reason alone, and now I love you more than ever, because you're a hero, George, white toothed wonder man.

00:32:07.000 And I want to talk to you about carnivore diets.

00:32:09.000 And I want to talk to you about Gorgeous brown ball bags.

00:32:13.000 What if your ball bags are already brown, Paul?

00:32:15.000 How do you even know the bloody difference?

00:32:17.000 And what's the point of all this ball bag bakery and carnivorism? 0.98

00:32:23.000 Did you know that your testicle sac, the scrotum, contains some of the highest concentration of melanin in your body? 0.99

00:32:28.000 So you can get a tan on your body, but your balls can get even more tan than the rest of your body. 0.96

00:32:33.000 So like the melanin in your ball sac is more than everywhere else.

00:32:37.000 Paul, is that why the ball bag is, generally speaking, and I'm talking in the Caucasian skin tones here, because I'm... Well, let me think about that.

00:32:45.000 I'm thinking I'm talking universally.

00:32:47.000 The ball bag is browner than the rest of the skin tone. 0.99

00:32:50.000 Yeah.

00:32:50.000 Is that right?

00:32:51.000 Yeah, because it has melanin.

00:32:52.000 And the idea here is just that real sunlight... I mean, you experience this with Bear when you guys are out sunning your ball sacks in the wilderness.

00:33:00.000 Real sunlight is valuable for humans.

00:33:03.000 Real ultraviolet light does a lot of things in the human body that vitamin D capsules can't do.

00:33:08.000 We know that vitamin D is valuable for humans.

00:33:10.000 We saw this during the COVID pandemic when the majority of people admitted to the hospitals were vitamin D deficient.

00:33:14.000 I mean, how many thousands, tens of thousands of lives could be saved with attention to simple supplementation of vitamin D?

00:33:21.000 But even sunlight is better than vitamin D supplementation. 0.65

00:33:24.000 And you can get it wherever you want, on your skin, On your chest, or you can get it on your coffee-soaked balls now. 0.99

00:33:30.000 That's the antidote to coffee on your balls. 0.99

00:33:33.000 Marinate them in caffeine and bake them in the sun. 0.99

00:33:37.000 Paul, I'm so glad.

00:33:38.000 I'm actually going to need you as an expert witness because during the pandemic, at the height of it, I did march into the emergency room and I said, while yous lots are coughing and spluttering on ventilators, These guys are the solution and I'm not afraid to admit I presented my ball bags to some of the senior consultants and medical officials there.

00:33:56.000 They asked me to leave and would you believe it I'm facing prosecution and even trial.

00:34:02.000 So the point of this is it brings about natural vitamin D. Your ball bags are the route to health.

00:34:09.000 Now you know Paul that I'm a Very committed vegan, by God.

00:34:14.000 I live and I die for sweet lady veganism. 0.99

00:34:16.000 But you're saying that the carnivore diet might have some method to its madness.

00:34:22.000 And what about veganism?

00:34:23.000 Is it some sort of fad?

00:34:25.000 Should we put aside our compassion for the cow and down a bit of their leg?

00:34:30.000 Not at all.

00:34:30.000 I think that anyone who makes an intentional choice with regard to their diet, anyone who's not just walking as a zombie and eating whatever foods fall in front of them or they can pick up in an airport or at a fast food joint, deserves to be appreciated.

00:34:45.000 And though you and I make different intentional decisions with regard to our diets, the first step for people finding health, and I think Being good citizens in the community of the earth is making intentional choices and understanding how we're choosing to eat.

00:35:01.000 With regard to meat versus plants, I have found and I have concerns that when humans don't eat meat and organs, so we're talking about like muscle meat, steaks, hamburgers, or organs like heart and liver, which come with the whole package of the animal, There are a lot of nutrient deficiencies that can develop unless we're very, very intentional about supplementation.

00:35:20.000 And this is where things get really interesting and you go really far down the rabbit hole.

00:35:24.000 But I've just seen so many people improve their health when they include more meat in their diet and organs especially, like liver.

00:35:33.000 And I think that for the last Decades, last two to three, maybe five decades, we've been told that meat is bad for us.

00:35:39.000 But when I look at the science, I think meat is good for humans nutritionally.

00:35:43.000 You and I can talk about the ethics and how we navigate that in the world if you want.

00:35:48.000 But I think nutritionally, meat is so valuable for kids, for adults, for elderly.

00:35:53.000 There's so many things to argue for including these animal foods in our diet from a nutritional standpoint.

00:35:58.000 From a nutritional standpoint?

00:35:59.000 Yeah, thank you, Paul, for that distinction.

00:36:00.000 Is it primarily because of protein or particular types of protein?

00:36:04.000 Because I'll say this, I'm actually looking to put on functional muscle mass as a result of a forthcoming contest against RFK.

00:36:11.000 I've got to do a pull-up competition.

00:36:13.000 I'm willing to ingest almost anything.

00:36:15.000 Are you saying it's impossible to get strong enough to win a pull-up competition

00:36:20.000 without a little bit of meat in your diet?

00:36:23.000 And what is it in particular that, where are the benefits derived from, mate?

00:36:28.000 There's the protein in animal foods is more bioavailable than the protein in plant foods.

00:36:34.000 But there are examples of people who eat a vegan diet who have lots of muscles.

00:36:38.000 And some of those people are probably supplementing with some steroids or some exogenous hormones.

00:36:42.000 But I know people in the vegan community that I've had respectful conversations with

00:36:45.000 who are probably just taking a lot of protein powder.

00:36:49.000 But if you just want to eat foods that you could get from the earth that you could hunt and gather and not a synthetic hemp protein or a synthetic pea protein made in the lab, you're going to be able to gain muscle and all of the other benefits that come with the meat.

00:37:01.000 We can talk about the other nutrients much more easily by including animal foods in your diet than you would by eating things like peas and lentils and things like this.

00:37:09.000 So if you think about this, This gets a little technical, but there's this one amino acid, leucine, in meat that's associated with muscle growth.

00:37:16.000 And you can get enough leucine to trigger optimal muscle growth in eight ounces of meat, like a burger patty, maybe even six ounces of meat.

00:37:23.000 But to get that amount of leucine, to get Russell Brand jacked to beat RFK in this pull-up contest, you're going to have to eat pounds of rice and lentils.

00:37:32.000 I mean, pounds a day.

00:37:33.000 That's going to cause problems for your septic system in your house, and maybe nobody will want to be around you because of the flatulence.

00:37:39.000 So I'm telling you, Like, it's a better, and then we can talk about the other things too.

00:37:43.000 That's just the protein, but there are many other nutrients that are valuable in animal foods and meat that you can't get in plant foods at all.

00:37:49.000 True Nature's Child says, I've got no gallbladder, so I have to watch the fat or it gets runny.

00:37:55.000 And I, like, I feel like, you know, like, I do take a lot of protein powders.

00:38:00.000 Like, I drink a nice protein shake.

00:38:02.000 It's delicious most days, but you're saying that it's not just protein we need to, like, In your ideal world, Dr. Paul Saladino, you've got salad in your name, but not in your game.

00:38:15.000 The ball bag is out the window, baking in the sun.

00:38:18.000 You're noshing down on elk meat.

00:38:21.000 Is that what it's going to take?

00:38:23.000 Tell us a little bit about your diet, oh wise and handsome man.

00:38:28.000 Yeah, elk meat and elk liver and grass-fed cattle.

00:38:31.000 We can talk about regenerative agriculture, but beyond the protein, when people think about meat and steaks, they just think about protein.

00:38:39.000 But Russell, it's so interesting when you go down the rabbit hole and you think about the other nutrients that are in meat that are difficult to find in plant foods or impossible to find in plant foods.

00:38:47.000 There's been a lot of research recently about this.

00:38:49.000 This compound called taurine, and of course the name is there, it's bull.

00:38:52.000 And taurine has been found in worm models, in mice models, and in primate models to extend longevity in those models.

00:38:59.000 So we haven't done controlled experiments in humans, but taurine looks to be beneficial for humans in other sorts of experiments in terms of cognitive benefits and as an antioxidant.

00:39:09.000 And the only place you get taurine, so clearly shows benefit across multiple species in longevity, And overall quality of life.

00:39:17.000 The only place you get this is animal meat.

00:39:19.000 And I don't know many vegans that are supplementing with taurine, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

00:39:23.000 What about creatine?

00:39:24.000 What about carnitine?

00:39:26.000 What about anserine?

00:39:26.000 What about carnosine?

00:39:28.000 What about vitamin K2?

00:39:29.000 What about riboflavin?

00:39:30.000 It's just that we've evolved eating meat, and there are so many of these key nutrients that allow us to thrive as humans that are predominantly or exclusively found in meat and organs that don't occur in hemp protein or pea protein or Brussels sprouts.

00:39:46.000 What about Tina Turner?

00:39:47.000 What about Flavor Flav?

00:39:49.000 You can't just hit me with a list of magical strings of nutrients and expect me to sit there and take it like a baking ball bag.

00:39:58.000 Dr. Paul Saladino, what are the ethnographic and anthropological undergirdings of this because as surely

00:40:06.000 as we are hunters we are gatherers and I suppose really the only reason I'm not eating animals is

00:40:11.000 not for is not for nutritional reasons in my case I've seen game changers I've seen them

00:40:14.000 documentaries for me it's just I think animals they're all right I don't want like as Morrissey

00:40:20.000 once said I don't think something's life should end just so I can have a snack like and I know

00:40:26.000 so that's the only reason.

00:40:28.000 And I agree with you as well, by the way.

00:40:29.000 I don't think everything should get so politicised that you can't let people be different from you.

00:40:32.000 That's crazy.

00:40:35.000 My wife ain't vegan. 0.96

00:40:37.000 It's not a political thing for me.

00:40:40.000 It's just a personal choice.

00:40:41.000 Like, I believe all spiritual choices should fundamentally be personal and if people are Inspired by your sacrifices or endeavors?

00:40:48.000 Although I don't know how they would be when they hear how I live my life.

00:40:51.000 Coffee sloshing about in my groin while I displace my neighbor's shrubbery.

00:40:58.000 You know, then that's that.

00:40:59.000 But like, do you think that human beings... Is there not a way, mate, that it could be healthier to live on plants?

00:41:06.000 Or would that involve the degree of supplementation you've described?

00:41:09.000 And if it does, what of it?

00:41:11.000 Why not supplement yourself up to the hilt?

00:41:16.000 I don't believe there's any evidence in the medical literature that meat is bad for humans.

00:41:19.000 I mean, you sort of asked, is it healthier to be on plants?

00:41:22.000 And I would say, no, it's not.

00:41:23.000 It's healthier to include meat in your diet, especially for children, but even for adults, and then for elderly who become frail, who need the muscle mass to avoid sarcopenia, which is when we get kind of skinny fat, lose our peripheral muscle mass, and get kind of like fat on the inside.

00:41:37.000 So we know that what Kills elderly people. 0.99

00:41:42.000 What causes us to die is frailty.

00:41:44.000 And the way that you avoid frailty is by having enough quality food in your diet, especially micronutrient-rich meat and organs.

00:41:51.000 And then for children's development, for proper development of the brain and all of the organs and all of these tendons and muscles as kids are developing and growing so they're strong and resilient, the animal foods provide so many unique nutrients that are so hard to get elsewhere.

00:42:03.000 You asked about the anthropology, and I think this is an incredibly important point.

00:42:06.000 So I went to Tanzania last year and got to hang out with this tribe of hunter-gatherers called the Hadza. 1.00

00:42:10.000 They're some of the last hunter-gatherers left on the planet.

00:42:13.000 There's only a few thousand true hunter-gatherers left on the planet.

00:42:16.000 And I'll tell you what.

00:42:17.000 We hunted, and then we ate the animal.

00:42:19.000 We ate the organs first.

00:42:20.000 We ate the animal from nose to tail.

00:42:22.000 I shared the brain of this animal with the hunter that killed the animal the next day.

00:42:25.000 I ate the brain with him. 0.95

00:42:27.000 I'm sure they ate the testicles, but I didn't get a chance to see them because they were so prized. 0.97

00:42:32.000 Then we ate honey. 0.96

00:42:33.000 They found a beehive, and they ate the honey.

00:42:34.000 We found some berries.

00:42:36.000 These hunter-gatherers, they don't care about vegetables at all. 1.00

00:42:39.000 They don't want to eat vegetables.

00:42:40.000 They just want to eat meat.

00:42:42.000 They want to eat fruit.

00:42:43.000 They want to eat honey. 0.73

00:42:44.000 And they want to eat this baobab fruit.

00:42:46.000 And occasionally, they'll eat a tuber, but that's the last thing they care about. 0.96

00:42:49.000 If you look at hunter-gatherers, I think that, from what we can tell with our ethnographic and anthropologic time machines, humans, we don't give a shit about vegetables if we can get other stuff that tastes better. 0.95

00:43:00.000 Title. 0.97

00:43:00.000 Good title. 0.97

00:43:01.000 Paul, when you was living with them indigenous people, how did you get on? 1.00

00:43:06.000 Was the vibe good?

00:43:07.000 Did they include you?

00:43:08.000 Did you get on their nerves?

00:43:10.000 Did you start cosying up to them too tight in the living quarters?

00:43:14.000 Was it a bit like dances with wolves?

00:43:17.000 Also, was there a good ceremonial atmosphere?

00:43:20.000 People living a lifestyle where they were connected to meaning and purpose because survival acquired a kind of mythic quality because it took so much endeavour and focus after a day's hunting.

00:43:31.000 Did it feel beautiful to sit around a campfire?

00:43:33.000 Was there a sense of community, connection? 0.84

00:43:35.000 Were there other aspects beyond diet, you diet-obsessed lunatic, that were inspiring?

00:43:42.000 Yeah, it was really cool to be with them.

00:43:43.000 I mean, I think of them as, like, the best time machine we've got.

00:43:47.000 It's not a perfect DeLorean.

00:43:48.000 This isn't perfectly Back to the Future, but it's about 50,000 years ago, I imagine, that you go back in time when you see these people.

00:43:54.000 Now, they're influenced by the Western world, for sure, but it was really moving to sit around the fire with them.

00:44:00.000 They were very welcoming.

00:44:01.000 They were happy, Russell.

00:44:02.000 They were fundamentally happy and peaceful people.

00:44:05.000 They welcomed us.

00:44:06.000 I think they were more welcoming because we wanted to go on hunts.

00:44:09.000 We said, let's take us on the longest hike Yeah, we got to see a lot of them.

00:44:13.000 And very few people go visit them and even fewer people that go visit them will go on an eight or nine hour hike slash run slash hunt with them.

00:44:21.000 So we got to see as much as we possibly could embedded with them, and it was.

00:44:25.000 It was just fundamental.

00:44:27.000 Happiness was what they were sharing with us.

00:44:29.000 Just they didn't have cell phones.

00:44:31.000 They don't use money.

00:44:32.000 They were just happy having what they had.

00:44:34.000 They had community and they celebrated the food when they could get it and they shared it.

00:44:39.000 And especially when we had very successful hunts, there was music and dancing and they were happy to share

00:44:44.000 that with us.

00:44:45.000 So, not a perfect time machine, but it was pretty idyllic.

00:44:48.000 It was really pretty remarkable, the experience with them.

00:44:51.000 Also, the DeLorean was not a very good time machine.

00:44:54.000 As I recall, there were problems with the flux capacitor, and it broke down in that barn, and Marty McFly had to stay there.

00:45:01.000 And we all know what he did when he met his mum, Paul.

00:45:03.000 And I'm sure you're not endorsing that, Paul, because that's called incest.

00:45:09.000 And that, it don't matter how much elk meat you consume, if you're eating it from your mother's lap, that is a problem in the sweet name of Jesus!

00:45:21.000 Mate, what do they hunt, and what do they hunt with? 0.99

00:45:26.000 They make all of their own hunting implements.

00:45:28.000 So they have bows and arrows they make from wood.

00:45:30.000 Their arrows are made from wood.

00:45:32.000 They have a neighboring tribe called the Datoga that will make them steel or metal arrowheads.

00:45:37.000 And they will sometimes take a local plant called an elephant foot plant and put poison on the tip of an arrow.

00:45:43.000 And so they hunt with bows made from wood, sinew, and then Barrows they've made by themselves, and they are predominantly hunting local animals around Lake Iasi in Tanzania, and their hunting grounds have been constricted because of encroachment from other pastoralist tribes, so they don't have as much access to game as they once did.

00:46:03.000 But their prized thing is an elan, which is a large sort of impala-type ruminant animal.

00:46:08.000 When I was with them, we hunted baboons, and along the way they would hunt small monkeys and birds.

00:46:14.000 Did you feel, did you have a go in the bow and arrow and wouldn't you feel a bit guilty shooting a baboon down because it's so, uh, sort of the Simeon's beings are so human. 0.83

00:46:25.000 Like I imagine him tumbling out of a tree sort of going, ah! 0.95

00:46:28.000 And almost maybe going, bloody hell! 0.91

00:46:30.000 I've got a date tonight! 0.97

00:46:33.000 Don't you feel a bit... I mean, at least if you shoot an undulate, it's got that slit up it's hoof, I think.

00:46:38.000 Ah well, you're asking for it.

00:46:40.000 But a monkey that looks like it... I put aside the one that betrayed Indiana Jones in the marketplace.

00:46:46.000 Fuck that little guy. 1.00

00:46:47.000 But normally, monkeys are our friends. 1.00

00:46:49.000 Didn't you feel a bit bad about it, and did you have a go?

00:46:52.000 It's so when we were actually at the key part of the hunt for the baboons, this tribe of Hadza, this maybe eight or nine Hadza males hunters, they just scattered everywhere. 0.89

00:47:03.000 They were running and I was just sort of watching and like trying not to get in their way, but they were hurting the monkeys in certain ways.

00:47:09.000 They had dogs.

00:47:10.000 And so they were the ones that were actually trying to get the monkeys out of the tree, or the baboons, excuse me.

00:47:15.000 So I wasn't directly involved in the baboon hunt.

00:47:17.000 I was like right there with them, but it was so frenetic.

00:47:20.000 And I'm, you know, I'm a westerner, right?

00:47:22.000 I've never hunted a baboon in my life.

00:47:23.000 I've never been in their tribe.

00:47:24.000 I have no business doing this with them.

00:47:26.000 The fact that it's like a human and has a thumb and opposable fingers, it is kind of Stirring and disturbing, but you also realize that this is life for them.

00:47:37.000 And this kind of goes back to your point earlier, and I'll just add this as humbly and as respectfully as possible.

00:47:45.000 When I think about food choices that we make as humans, I'm reminded of a book that I read when I was younger.

00:47:52.000 It's called The Tracker by Tom Brown.

00:47:54.000 And he tells a story in the book of being apprenticed to this Apache Indian elder who was teaching him sort of these Native American ways.

00:48:01.000 And he tells a story of killing his first animal when he was 9 or 10 years old.

00:48:04.000 And it's a lame deer that he's killed by himself with a knife.

00:48:06.000 He brings it back to camp, and he's weeping.

00:48:08.000 And this Apache Indian, this Apache Native American says, why are you crying? 0.97

00:48:13.000 And he says, because I killed this animal.

00:48:14.000 And I'm paraphrasing from the book.

00:48:15.000 But this has stuck with me.

00:48:16.000 So the response from this elder was, in order for something to live, something else must die.

00:48:21.000 This is the way of life.

00:48:22.000 When you understand that the life in a blade of grass is the same, and it's all kind of this life force, you'll understand this.

00:48:29.000 And the goal is to be respectful of the things that you're using to fuel your life.

00:48:32.000 So even when people want to eat plants and they believe that the plants are resulting in less death, I think that it's interesting and important to really look into that and understand all of the ecosystems that are disrupted by the plants that we eat, all of the by-kills, all the moles, the voles, the beavers, the snakes, the rabbits.

00:48:53.000 There are literally tens of thousands of lives that are disrupted, that are displaced, that are killed when we're Plowing a field to grow plants.

00:49:02.000 And so I think that if we want to live on this earth as humans, and I feel like you especially illustrate this, we have the ability to do a lot of good in the world as humans.

00:49:12.000 We have to accept that in order for something to live, something else must die.

00:49:15.000 And when I think about the choices we make, In terms of food quality, I believe, and this is just my belief, that by eating meat and organs, we're giving our bodies such unique nutrients that allows us to do the best work in the world, allows us our brains to function well, allows us to be strong and protect our families.

00:49:32.000 And so I believe that we have this purpose on Earth to do good in the world, and that none of us should be, I think, ignorant to the way that we affect the world.

00:49:41.000 We're all responsible for ending life.

00:49:43.000 And it's just how we choose to use that that gift that we're given as we get the chance to live and do things in the world.

00:49:50.000 Those are excellent points, Paul.

00:49:52.000 And it's just a degree exposes that sometimes we adopt the pose of morality when what we are in fact Discussing his sentimentality rather than rather than true morality that the consequences of the food systems and how they're economically undergirded is not free from a negative impact exactly as you've described and this

00:50:17.000 Ideology of non-separateness, acknowledging a continuum of life beyond materialistic, individualistic, solipsistic obsession with the role of humans and our sort of supremist kind of position in hierarchies even beyond the food chain and in sort of ultra-civilised social systems, It protects us.

00:50:43.000 It protects us in sort of a kingdom of folly from the consequences of our actions.

00:50:47.000 And yeah, you present some really interesting arguments.

00:50:51.000 But what I also got from listening to that hunt is when it came to the crunch of shooting a baboon, you floundered and you scampered and you got in the way. 0.90

00:51:01.000 You dropped the bow and arrow, you squealed, you tripped up, you probably distracted them from an important and nourishing meal. 1.00

00:51:10.000 But it's time now to put your testicles back in your pants. 1.00

00:51:14.000 The sun has got its hat on and your balls should have their pants on. 1.00

00:51:18.000 because this is an important moment in our show and it's as indigenously wonderful 0.95

00:51:24.000 as any native ceremony you might have experienced.

00:51:27.000 Oh well that was a shock.

00:51:35.000 That's when Gareth asks the question that that happens, Paul, and here it comes, look.

00:51:39.000 Paul, no, I was really interested, I mean, you've raised some amazing points, and I've recently started eating meat again myself, due to a lot of the things... When were you going to tell us?

00:51:48.000 Well, I was hiding it from you. 1.00

00:51:50.000 You bastard! 1.00

00:51:51.000 What have you been having? 1.00

00:51:52.000 For these very reasons.

00:51:54.000 No, you've just heard that!

00:51:56.000 What's next?

00:51:57.000 You've been out kicking a baboon? 0.86

00:51:59.000 I went down London Zoo yesterday and kicked a baboon up the bollocks.

00:52:04.000 It's the only way that I could ensure myself a full head of hair.

00:52:08.000 This is outrageous!

00:52:09.000 I've started to reintroduce some meat into my diet for the reasons that you... You didn't know them reasons!

00:52:15.000 Well, who do you think I work with all day long?

00:52:18.000 Young Putin.

00:52:19.000 What's young Putin been saying?

00:52:20.000 He's obsessed with this information.

00:52:21.000 If you're not necking a raccoon kidney... He loves Paul.

00:52:23.000 Dane's Paul's a god to him.

00:52:25.000 Is he?

00:52:26.000 Young Putin's in there, Paul.

00:52:27.000 He loves you.

00:52:28.000 He looks like Putin, the Russian leader, when he was a young man.

00:52:33.000 Like he's a dead ringer for him.

00:52:35.000 He's well into your gear.

00:52:36.000 He loves it. 1.00

00:52:37.000 He's sat there now sucking on a baboon's butt, simply to impress you. 0.99

00:52:44.000 That's before he knew it was nutritious! 1.00

00:52:47.000 Go on then, ask your question.

00:52:50.000 So I wondered what, in terms of, you mentioned grass-fed meat is, you know, kind of the best that you can get and it's important.

00:52:59.000 When it comes to people, because obviously that comes with a certain expense to it, you know, grass-fed meat, the high quality meat that you ideally want to buy.

00:53:08.000 What if you can't afford that?

00:53:09.000 What about people who wanna, you know, get the same kind of quality, uh, meat, but they have to, like, go to the shops to buy it?

00:53:16.000 Like, what's your- Can you get- What are you gonna do about that, Paul?

00:53:19.000 What you gonna do about that now, Paul Saladino?

00:53:21.000 What they gotta do? 0.77

00:53:22.000 Stick their bum out the window and see if they can get some vitamin D up the rectum? 0.91

00:53:27.000 You think you've got an answer for everything, don't you, Saladino? 0.91

00:53:30.000 Well, he's got you, hasn't he?

00:53:31.000 The lad from Hull, he's Flummoxed you!

00:53:33.000 It's privileged elitism!

00:53:35.000 We can't all go off and live with a tribe!

00:53:37.000 Annoying them by ballsing up an important hunt.

00:53:40.000 Can we? 1.00

00:53:41.000 Some of us is down Lidl, down the middle aisles eating brains faggots! 1.00

00:53:48.000 So this is a really interesting point. 0.99

00:53:49.000 So let's just make sure people understand what grass-fed meat means.

00:53:52.000 So I want to be clear that I stand with you guys shoulder to shoulder and not being a fan of industrialized agriculture for animals, whether it's chickens or pigs or cows.

00:54:02.000 I think clustered animal feeding is not the way that we create healthy ecosystems for those animals, not the way that we create the healthiest animals.

00:54:09.000 And it certainly isn't good for those animals' welfare and life in their lifespan.

00:54:13.000 But when you've seen a grass-fed and grass-finished cow, that's a cow that's basically on a pasture its whole life.

00:54:18.000 And I've been to a lot of farms.

00:54:19.000 I've been fortunate to be with a lot of really cool farmers that I've learned a lot from, because I grew up in the suburbs of northern Virginia.

00:54:26.000 I'm not a farmer.

00:54:27.000 I'm not a Hadza hunter, as Russell has clearly outed me for.

00:54:32.000 But when you're with these farmers on these farms and you see these cows, they're eating grass.

00:54:37.000 They're healthy cows.

00:54:38.000 They eat grass for their whole life, which is what they're meant to eat evolutionarily.

00:54:41.000 Like all other species on the planet, I think that cows have a species-appropriate diet, and I think humans in some ways have a species-appropriate diet.

00:54:48.000 So I think that it's clear that grass-feeding, grass-finishing of cattle is good in so many ways.

00:54:54.000 Good for the cattle, Good for their being while they're alive.

00:54:58.000 They have this happy, healthy life.

00:55:00.000 And all animals die eventually, right?

00:55:01.000 If they're in the wild, they're killed by a predator.

00:55:03.000 These cows are just safe and they get to eat grass and they're healthy their whole lives.

00:55:07.000 It creates healthier meat free from pesticides and other things that come with grain feeding at the end of a cow's lifespan when it's in a clustered animal feeding operation.

00:55:15.000 And from an environmental perspective, if you look at the The carbon emissions, if you want to get that granular, we know that this way of raising animals, especially regenerative raising where they do rotational grazing of these animals, is actually carbon negative or carbon neutral.

00:55:28.000 So there's so many reasons to eat grass-fed meat.

00:55:31.000 It's nutritionally better.

00:55:33.000 It's free from pesticides and mold toxins that come with the grains.

00:55:36.000 And from an environmental perspective, if that's something you get wrapped around the axle about, if you're worried about carbon emissions and these kind of things, it's clearly beneficial.

00:55:43.000 Now, for some people, the grass-fed meat is more difficult financially.

00:55:47.000 I'd say it's probably 20 to 40, maybe 50 percent more expensive.

00:55:51.000 I want people to not let perfect get in the way of benefits, and so if someone can't afford grass-fed meat, Get the meat that you can afford, because I do think that even though we know that a grain-fed animal is not ideal from a lifespan perspective, from a lifecycle perspective, it's still going to have lots of good nutrients.

00:56:09.000 It's still going to have the taurine and the flavor flave and the Tina Turner that we talked about earlier, Russell.

00:56:14.000 And You know, it's going to have these unique nutrients that are hard to get other places.

00:56:18.000 And then I think that people can start to make these calculations in their mind.

00:56:22.000 For me personally, I can't think of anything that's a better investment than quality of food for you and for your family.

00:56:28.000 But I'm going to let everyone else listening to this make their own decisions in terms of how they use their finances.

00:56:33.000 Maybe they want to spend it on...

00:56:34.000 Gonna get a bow and arrow.

00:56:36.000 You're not gonna get a bow and arrow and go around their house and spangle it off in the wrong direction, telling them that it's Paul Saladino's way or it's the highway.

00:56:44.000 Oh, we're allowed to make our own choices.

00:56:46.000 You're not gonna march us into McDonald's and make us sup down a pint of cow fat with a straw.

00:56:53.000 No, no.

00:56:54.000 You know what's interesting about McDonald's though, and a lot of these fast food places, is that even at McDonald's, and I've done some content about McDonald's and how bad their french fries are, how many ingredients and how bad their food is, but you can go to McDonald's in terms of like getting food availability.

00:57:10.000 Their quarter pounder is 100% beef.

00:57:12.000 They don't have any additives in their quarter pounder and they don't use seed oils to cook it.

00:57:16.000 So, It was interesting, you know, when we were in Austin, I wanted to talk to some of the homeless people and ask them like, how much money do you get asking people per day?

00:57:24.000 You know, you can get a four quarter pounders at McDonald's for six to seven dollars.

00:57:28.000 And that's for someone who has no stove and no way to cook, you can get 100% beef.

00:57:32.000 Now, is that the ideal way to get beef?

00:57:34.000 No.

00:57:34.000 Is that the ideal beef?

00:57:35.000 No.

00:57:35.000 But the accessibility is there.

00:57:37.000 And even in like, The fast food joint that is the epitome of probably many causes of our health problems today, there is an ability to make a less bad, potentially even reasonable health choice in terms of high quality meat.

00:57:52.000 Dr. Paul Saladino, Thomas Beard in our local chat says, have you ever tried any plant-based food or do you think it's beneath you, you heartless monster?

00:58:03.000 No, I added the last bit.

00:58:04.000 He just said, have you tried any plant-based food?

00:58:07.000 You know, I was a vegan once, Russell.

00:58:09.000 I was a raw vegan for seven months, probably about 14 or 15 years ago.

00:58:14.000 And I would go to my local grocery store and buy two heads of kale per day.

00:58:18.000 So I'd walk out with six heads of kale.

00:58:20.000 And this cute girl at the grocery store says, what is that for?

00:58:23.000 And I said, well, it's for my smoothies.

00:58:24.000 And I made these huge green smoothies.

00:58:25.000 So I've been down the vegan path myself.

00:58:29.000 Like I said, I respect people's autonomy and their ability to make these choices.

00:58:32.000 I just believe as a physician and from a scientific perspective that there are better choices for human health that can be made ethically and morally as well.

00:58:40.000 So I've been there.

00:58:41.000 I haven't tried any of the vegan burgers.

00:58:43.000 Every time we do content on any of this stuff, my whole team is trying to like just eat some Beyond Burger and I just won't do it.

00:58:49.000 Why Paul?

00:58:51.000 Because I know what's in the ingredients, Russell, and I worry.

00:58:54.000 A lot of these plant-based foods contain seed oils, which are something that I have a major problem with.

00:58:58.000 I don't think it's healthy for humans.

00:59:00.000 Things like corn, canola, sunflower, safflower, soybean oils.

00:59:04.000 I'm not convinced that I want to get leg hemoglobin, so like fake hemoglobin in my diet.

00:59:09.000 A lot of the plant-based burgers contain cellulose, which can be problematic for the human gut.

00:59:13.000 So I look at this food and I think it's not healthy for humans.

00:59:17.000 And if someone is really feeling a pull from the deeper regions of their brain to eat meat, that's probably an evolutionary signal that you need those nutrients.

00:59:26.000 I have a study here from Johns Hopkins University, and it says that when Paul Saladino says the vegan pathway, he's referring to his own anus.

00:59:36.000 Is that true, Paul?

00:59:40.000 Of course it's true.

00:59:41.000 It's Johns Hopkins.

00:59:42.000 How can I debate that?

00:59:43.000 Can't debate Johns Hopkins.

00:59:44.000 Paul, thank you so much.

00:59:45.000 What an amazing conversation.

00:59:47.000 What a fantastic perspective.

00:59:49.000 So much to think about.

00:59:50.000 Let's stay in touch.

00:59:51.000 I think we've already got each other's emails and we will communicate more.

00:59:55.000 Or I'll get it off bear or something.

00:59:56.000 I so appreciate what you're doing.

00:59:58.000 Thank you so much for having me on.

00:59:59.000 I hope it's valuable for you guys.

01:00:00.000 Oh, you're just lovely to talk to.

01:00:01.000 You're lovely to talk to.

01:00:02.000 You're a delight.

01:00:03.000 Thank you so much.

01:00:04.000 You can find out more about Paul at heartandsoil.co.co or dragonace.com and download the Paul Saladino podcast, which I reckon is brilliant because he's pretty... He's so lovely, isn't he?

01:00:15.000 So knowledgeable.

01:00:17.000 And he's nearly killed a baboon.

01:00:18.000 He's nearly killed a baboon.

01:00:20.000 He was trying to march the homeless into McDonald's.

01:00:22.000 He's telling us there's nothing better we can do with our lives than go in there and start eating Big Macs.

01:00:26.000 Quarter Pounders.

01:00:27.000 He's out of control, that geezer. 0.98

01:00:28.000 Quarter Pounders.

01:00:29.000 Very specific about that.

01:00:30.000 Quarter Pounders says there's beef patties.

01:00:31.000 He's sort of got a very open, kind face.

01:00:33.000 He's so nice.

01:00:34.000 I really liked him.

01:00:35.000 The murderer. 0.99

01:00:37.000 He's a monkey murderer. 1.00

01:00:38.000 He'll murder a monkey as soon as look at it, wouldn't he? 1.00

01:00:40.000 He'll shoot it out of trees. 1.00

01:00:42.000 Any monkey he sees.

01:00:43.000 Oh, look at that cute little cup of tea. 1.00

01:00:45.000 Sir, this is Whipsnade Safari Park.

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01:00:58.000 It's the only thing you can do for your children.

01:01:00.000 Otherwise, it's irresponsible.

01:01:02.000 I like Pooh Saladino.

01:01:03.000 That was a good guess, man.

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01:01:05.000 Because obviously, you'd like...

01:01:06.000 Well, I'm not going to say that.

01:01:07.000 No, same here.

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01:01:35.000 What's the matter?

01:01:36.000 What's the matter, mate?

01:01:37.000 Someone in the chat says you look like Liam Hemsworth.

01:01:40.000 Well, that's a lovely thing to say.

01:01:42.000 So what's the problem?

01:01:43.000 You look like Liam Hemsworth.

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01:01:47.000 Take the rough with the smooth, you look like Liam Hemsworth.

01:01:49.000 Leave Gal alone, says jimurphc137.

01:01:53.000 Paffodlipalian and a bloody happy medium. 1.00

01:01:56.000 What a load of rubbish. 1.00

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01:01:58.000 Listen, you might be wondering...

01:02:02.000 Oh, kerosene, testosterone, taurine.

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01:02:09.000 Well, Codswallop.

01:02:11.000 Hunter, you know Hunter Biden, do you, Gal?

01:02:13.000 Yes, I do, yeah.

01:02:14.000 Talking of Hunter and Gatherer.

01:02:16.000 Hang on.

01:02:17.000 Cut that bit out. 0.81

01:02:18.000 Don't say that he said it.

01:02:20.000 Right, check this out.

01:02:23.000 You may think they're nothing more nobler than being a hunter, but I'll show you one hunter, or gatherer, who contracts with Burisma what ain't right.

01:02:31.000 And what, then he wouldn't even have gotten them if it weren't for his dad helping him out and everything, behind the scenes, shouting down a speakerphone. 0.98

01:02:38.000 If Devon Tropelop, testimony archer, if his words are to be believed, then shit dog, Something came rotten in the state of Denmark. 0.98

01:02:47.000 That's right, it bloody well will. 0.99

01:02:49.000 How can a special counsel that bargained him a plea deal be in charge of the investigation with new powers? 1.00

01:02:56.000 Shit off, you pigs. 1.00

01:02:57.000 That's right. 1.00

01:02:58.000 Here's the news.

01:02:59.000 No, here's the effing news.

01:03:00.000 Someone got his pills.

01:03:01.000 That's how you do a link, my friend.

01:03:04.000 like that.

01:03:05.000 I'm gonna do. No. He's the fucking news. Rogan says the Bidens are definitely corrupt.

01:03:14.000 The investigation is ongoing.

01:03:16.000 But the investigation's being done by the people that are doing it anyway and haven't found anything so far.

01:03:21.000 Hmm.

01:03:24.000 On board with us we have Joe Rogan claiming that the Biden family are definitely corrupt, that there's sufficient and significant evidence.

01:03:31.000 The investigation is ongoing but it's being done by the person that did that plea deal that seemed a bit dubious anyway.

01:03:37.000 What are they telling him?

01:03:38.000 Could you investigate properly this time?

01:03:40.000 Just investigate harder!

01:03:42.000 Why won't you?

01:03:44.000 Let's have a look at Rogan's claims and see if we can work out together whether or not the Biden's business dealings will ever be investigated with the same vigour and forensic tenacity that Trump's business endeavours and indeed other escapades are being investigated. 0.99

01:03:58.000 Joe Biden's been a goof his whole fucking career. 0.99

01:04:00.000 He's always been a goof. 1.00

01:04:02.000 He's been caught lying so many times. 1.00

01:04:06.000 He's so full of shit. 1.00

01:04:07.000 Do you sometimes think that actually media has changed now, and the way that things are 1.00

01:04:11.000 investigated has changed now, because of channels like Joe Rogan, but the plethora of channels

01:04:16.000 ranging from hardline investigative channels, and the fact that investigative career journalists

01:04:21.000 can expose stuff if they want to.

01:04:23.000 And you, me, anyone with a phone can report on stories.

01:04:26.000 Now a career politician who's been around Congress their whole life, been through all

01:04:30.000 of those institutions, like, they're gonna be exposed if they've done anything wrong

01:04:34.000 ever.

01:04:35.000 But one thing's for sure, these kind of institutions and these kind of political figures can't

01:04:38.000 survive in this kind of media environment.

01:04:41.000 That's why this media environment, I believe, is being manipulated, managed and changed so that you simply can't discuss this stuff.

01:04:47.000 The mainstream media, you'll notice, don't talk about Hunter Biden in the same way that independent media like Joe Rogan does.

01:04:52.000 That's because they are still managed in the traditional way.

01:04:55.000 Presumably, if social media sites like Twitter We're infiltrated by the FBI and CIA?

01:04:59.000 Presumably.

01:05:00.000 Mainstream media, legacy media organizations have relationships.

01:05:03.000 You saw how they towed the line during COVID.

01:05:06.000 We've got to do what's best for the country.

01:05:07.000 Well, you know what they think's best for the country.

01:05:09.000 Democrat government, Biden is president.

01:05:11.000 That's what they think's best.

01:05:12.000 You don't have to assume these people are evil.

01:05:14.000 You just have to assume they have biases and institutional relationships that don't permit honest and authentic reporting.

01:05:20.000 Fortunately now, there are people outside of the space that are willing to say, hold on a minute, this looks like corruption.

01:05:25.000 There's so much evidence that he's corrupt.

01:05:28.000 Just undeniable evidence of corruption.

01:05:31.000 And the stuff with him and his son, and then the guy who just testified that was business partners with Hunter, who talked about all the different things that Joe was involved with.

01:05:41.000 Evan Archer.

01:05:41.000 Yeah.

01:05:42.000 It's fucking undeniable. 0.99

01:05:44.000 The fact that mainstream news is ignoring this except for right-wing media, it's fucking crazy. 0.99

01:05:52.000 Wouldn't you prefer a media that had biases and allegiances with a particular wing of institutional politics 0.80

01:05:58.000 but still reported on matters in an open and transparent way?

01:06:02.000 then wouldn't you trust them and the party more?

01:06:04.000 If you saw CNN, Morning Joe, whatever saying, listen this Hunter Biden business stuff,

01:06:09.000 we didn't talk about it enough at the beginning and it was obviously kept off Twitter,

01:06:12.000 that Daily Post story should never have been repressed about the laptop,

01:06:15.000 but now it looks like there are dubious business dealings that have been ongoing.

01:06:19.000 Wouldn't that make you feel more trust?

01:06:21.000 Things have become so divided, so separatist and sectarian, that it's almost like that aspect of the media consider it to be their duty to display ongoing fealty to an aspect of the administration.

01:06:32.000 That just, I think, continues to diminish trust.

01:06:35.000 Let's have a look at this in more detail.

01:06:36.000 Joe Biden's son Hunter will now be investigated by special counsel with additional powers, the US Attorney General has been announced.

01:06:42.000 What was the first investigation then?

01:06:43.000 Look, investigate Hunter Biden, but don't try very hard.

01:06:47.000 Don't use all of your powers.

01:06:48.000 Just use a little bit of power.

01:06:50.000 Let's see now how professional the mainstream media are, how they're better than us, and see how the representatives of the government speak in a clear and candid way that definitely isn't obfuscating, confusing, hypocritical, and sometimes just untrue.

01:07:05.000 This is a CBS News special report.

01:07:07.000 I'm Margaret Brennan in Washington.

01:07:09.000 We are coming to you on the air to bring you an announcement.

01:07:12.000 Everything about it, actually, is just grandiosity.

01:07:14.000 This is my name.

01:07:15.000 I'm in Washington, CNN.

01:07:16.000 We are coming to you.

01:07:18.000 From the Department of Justice, Attorney General Merrick Garland is making a statement.

01:07:24.000 Ooh! 0.96

01:07:25.000 A statement!

01:07:26.000 Let's pull down our pants! 1.00

01:07:28.000 It's a statement!

01:07:30.000 And is making some detailed remarks that we will bring you in a moment.

01:07:35.000 Are you just filling now?

01:07:37.000 What we know is that it has to do with President Biden's son, Hunter Biden.

01:07:43.000 Let's listen in.

01:07:44.000 Let's listen in.

01:07:45.000 Put a glass up against your TV now.

01:07:49.000 This is goodness.

01:07:50.000 Put a string in a paper cup, then your friend has another paper cup at the end.

01:07:53.000 What is this?

01:07:53.000 Is that children's television?

01:07:55.000 Good afternoon.

01:07:56.000 I'm here today to announce the appointment of David Weiss as a special counsel.

01:08:01.000 And now he's doing it.

01:08:02.000 Everything's paraphernalia and empty ceremony.

01:08:05.000 Like, everyone's behaving like what they're doing is really important and significant.

01:08:08.000 But I think you guys are ready for the news done by a man in a leopard print dressing gown, right?

01:08:12.000 Let me know in the comments.

01:08:13.000 I have today notified the designated members of each House of Congress of the appointment.

01:08:19.000 Push in with the camera.

01:08:20.000 Ooh, it's more important now.

01:08:22.000 Beginning in 2019, Mr. Weiss, in his capacity as U.S.

01:08:26.000 attorney and along with federal law enforcement partners, began investigating allegations of certain criminal conduct by, among others, Robert Hunter Biden.

01:08:36.000 They've been doing this investigation for six years.

01:08:38.000 They've got video evidence of criminal behavior.

01:08:41.000 They've got a paper trial that leads them to Burisma.

01:08:43.000 They've got Joe Biden letters saying, oh, I hope it goes well, Devon, to his business partner.

01:08:48.000 And they actually are only just learning that his name's not even Hunter Biden.

01:08:52.000 We've been working on this six years on the Hunter Biden case.

01:08:55.000 This just in, that isn't his name.

01:08:57.000 That's the end of the investigation.

01:08:59.000 Thank you.

01:09:00.000 Found his spoon, sir.

01:09:01.000 That investigation remains ongoing.

01:09:04.000 I'm gonna need another six years.

01:09:06.000 I was looking into someone called Hunter Biden.

01:09:08.000 He's called Robert Biden.

01:09:09.000 All of this was about someone else.

01:09:11.000 He actually owns a laptop company and sel- Oh no, that could be him.

01:09:15.000 This appointment confirms my commitment to provide Mr. Weiss all the resources he requests.

01:09:21.000 It also reaffirms that Mr. Weiss has the authority he needs to conduct a thorough investigation This is a really weird bit of news, isn't it?

01:09:28.000 About Mr. Weiss.

01:09:30.000 Like, Mr. Weiss, this time, we are going to let him have proper powers to investigate.

01:09:34.000 Last time, we told him, investigate very, very slowly.

01:09:37.000 Doesn't it make you feel that the machinery of government is about providing the appearance of authenticity and transparency, rather than authenticity and transparency itself?

01:09:45.000 And aren't you now learning how to spot the difference?

01:09:48.000 Isn't part of the success of figures like Joe Rogan, based on the fact that whether you like him or agree with him, you kind of trust that he's telling you the truth.

01:09:56.000 And indeed, political figures like Trump, who plainly says things that are not true sometimes, but so overtly that compared to other political figures that obfuscate and engage in such sophistry, while actually the investigations being ongoing, well at the time I believed it to be true, well that's Not actually, you know, we're so used to a kind of odd, bureaucratic, boring, tedious, ongoing, linguistically complex set of lies.

01:10:20.000 But when people just are playing with us, we go, oh God, all right, you then, you then.

01:10:24.000 And to continue to take the steps he deems appropriate independently.

01:10:29.000 Based only on the facts and the law.

01:10:32.000 The men and women undertaking this investigation.

01:10:34.000 See, I said men and women.

01:10:36.000 Do you see how far we've come?

01:10:38.000 Who have dedicated their careers to protecting the citizens of this country.

01:10:44.000 The appointment of Mr. Weiss reinforces for the American people the department's commitment.

01:10:49.000 Committedment?

01:10:50.000 They can't even say words like commitment because they don't mean anything.

01:10:54.000 They don't believe in anything.

01:10:55.000 They're just bureaucrats.

01:10:56.000 Remember at the beginning of the pandemic.

01:10:57.000 This is Anthony Fauci.

01:10:59.000 This guy, as long as you don't look at any of his past, is super reliable and we should trust everything he says, even though he doesn't trust it himself.

01:11:06.000 This is the way that we understand Washington and indeed all centralized government to work now.

01:11:11.000 My belief is that they are not especially corrupt.

01:11:13.000 My belief is they've always been this corrupt, but now the means for investigation and communication is so profligate that they can't maintain power and control in the way that they used to.

01:11:23.000 There's, I believe, a global panic about the miracle of modern communication that requires the legitimisation of censorship in particular, and what we're watching here is just these old institutions desperately scrabbling to hold on to their authority, when all of us can see that the Emperor is nude, and it's not very impressive.

01:11:40.000 Last week, the New York Post reported that President Biden's family and their allies bought in at least $20 million from foreign sources, including first son Hunter Biden's business associates in Russia, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, some of whom dined with the current commander in chief.

01:11:55.000 So, as you know, nepotism exists in politics.

01:11:58.000 People grant access for money in politics.

01:12:01.000 Joe Biden, of course, like any of us would, helps his children to get on in life.

01:12:05.000 The problem is, is it's with a bunch of Kazakhstani, Russian and Ukrainian energy firms as his There's this weird war going on at the moment.

01:12:11.000 There's the receipt of extraordinary sums of money.

01:12:14.000 It doesn't look good when the whole of the media is in a frenzy about the apparent corruption of Donald Trump, a possibility that I remain entirely open to as long as that is investigated with the same veracity and tenacity as all other potential incidences of corruption.

01:12:29.000 Democrats who for years accused Trump of corruption and of breaking the law have turned a blind eye to the dishonesty of President Joe Biden, his administration and his family.

01:12:39.000 For years, politicians such as Nancy Pelosi, Congressional Democrats and left-wing political pundits all touted in a cultish, well-rehearsed, creepy sort of unison that no one was above the law, not even a president.

01:12:49.000 Yet, as time has passed, that affirmation has been anything but true.

01:12:54.000 In fact, the only time Democrats seem to care about upholding the law is when the person involved has the last name Trump.

01:13:00.000 The law is a tool and a weapon to ensure that their agenda can be pursued, their objectives met.

01:13:05.000 The law is not an independent entity that is revered and honoured in the same way a god might have been in an earlier incarnation of civilisation or pre-civilisation.

01:13:15.000 The law is a weapon and you might argue that gods are similarly weapons to enshrine a set of values and to create in-groups and out-groups and to other communities that you have enmity towards.

01:13:25.000 Well, has that much changed?

01:13:27.000 They just use bureaucracy and apparent rationalism to underwrite their own preferences and their own agenda.

01:13:33.000 At this point, I think it's pretty safe to say that Hunter Biden's businesses benefited from the fact that his surname is Biden and that Joe Biden gave him favorable opportunities and favorable access.

01:13:43.000 To deny that, like, this guy would have done all of these business deals even if his dad had been Ron Brand.

01:13:50.000 That's my dad!

01:13:50.000 It simply wouldn't have happened, although Ron Brand does have assets.

01:13:54.000 When it comes to Biden and his family, there have been a completely different set of standards held compared to former President Donald Trump.

01:14:00.000 Everything surrounding the investigation of Hunter Biden has been suspect since the beginning.

01:14:04.000 Say what you want about Trump's legal issues and multiple indictments, there is a miscarriage of justice here that reeks of corruption.

01:14:10.000 Democrats are not applying the same standards to Biden that they did for Trump.

01:14:14.000 That's the fundamental argument.

01:14:15.000 You can't trust people who do not apply the same standards across a whole gamut of moral or judicial issues, because otherwise we're not talking about moral and judicial issues.

01:14:27.000 We're talking about favouritism, political expedience, managing elections, bringing down opponents.

01:14:32.000 All of those things start to become more relevant when you see that they don't apply the same scrutiny across the board of issues, I think.

01:14:40.000 What do you think?

01:14:40.000 think? Let me know in the comments.

01:14:41.000 When Trump was in office, Democrats were determined to investigate and hold anyone accountable

01:14:45.000 for their illegal acts and corruption. Since Biden has been in office, Democrats' efforts

01:14:49.000 at accountability have been much less vigorous. It's almost as if they created two separate

01:14:54.000 realms of justice. That's not justice at all. Justice has to be evenly applied, or it is

01:14:58.000 no longer justice. It's just a tool of the state. Look no further than last Friday's

01:15:02.000 appointment by the Department of Justice of a special council to investigate Hunter Biden.

01:15:07.000 The person assigned to investigate Hunter Biden, David Weiss, is the same person who negotiated the President's son's plea deal earlier this year.

01:15:14.000 So the person that gave him the favourable plea deal is doing the investigation.

01:15:17.000 If he gave him a favourable plea deal, what kind of investigation is likely to be conducted?

01:15:21.000 Probably a favourable one, I would imagine, or at least one that takes so bloody long that by the time the results are in, think still, we don't know the full facts around JFK.

01:15:29.000 What is this process likely to look like.

01:15:31.000 A thorough, fierce and prompt investigation or a laborious task that distracts us from the facts.

01:15:36.000 We all of us sort of know, don't we, that presidents do favours for their family.

01:15:42.000 That a career politician like Joe Biden's gonna have blood on his hands because of the way he's voted in previous wars, because of the way he's supported various globalist corporations, energy companies, big tech, financial industry.

01:15:52.000 We know he's gonna have accepted money from them.

01:15:54.000 We know he stood in front of a room full of donors and said nothing's gonna change. 0.68

01:15:57.000 When what they were offering the population after Trump was massive change, so plainly there, that's hypocrisy and lying.

01:16:02.000 And that same intuition tells us that this investigation is theatre, spectacle.

01:16:07.000 Look at what it looked like on the news.

01:16:10.000 Now something important's gonna happen, an important man's gonna, this is CNN, I'm the news, this is gonna be great, and then he comes out.

01:16:16.000 David Weiss is a special counsellor.

01:16:19.000 That guy could come and go, look, I know it might look a bit weird, like David Weiss is the person that negotiated the special plea deal that most people now recognise is the fundamental problem, that that demonstrates that this hasn't been done thoroughly or properly, so to bring the same person in looks like a horrible misstep.

01:16:32.000 The only way you can get round that issue is by ignoring that issue, because if you address that issue, it tells you all you need to know. 0.99

01:16:38.000 We've been schooled to think we don't understand politics properly, we must be idiots. 0.99

01:16:42.000 Oh, it's ever so complicated what they're doing over there. 1.00

01:16:43.000 They make it sound complicated, and indeed it Probably on some degree is complicated because of the degree of hypocrisy, corruption, lying, obfuscation, concealment of facts.

01:16:52.000 It probably has complexity as a result of all those competing factors.

01:16:55.000 But when it comes to how do you run a community?

01:16:57.000 How do you deal with competing ideas?

01:17:00.000 How do you create republics and democracies and manageable systems of government?

01:17:04.000 It clearly isn't like this.

01:17:05.000 What these systems do is they advantage elites and prevent us from seeing how those advantages

01:17:11.000 are undertaken and kept in place.

01:17:13.000 That's why they're so fiercely protective of it and that's why they have to create villains

01:17:16.000 like Trump and place them centre stage.

01:17:19.000 So we're all caught up in this garish, vivid, lurid, grotesque spectacle when in fact what

01:17:24.000 we should be deducing is all government is corrupt.

01:17:26.000 That's why this doesn't feel like a big deal when it comes to the Trump indictments. 0.92

01:17:30.000 We know Trump's probably corrupt. 0.88

01:17:32.000 He exists in a world of corruption. 0.97

01:17:33.000 He tells us that he does corrupt stuff.

01:17:34.000 I take advantage of the very tax loops the cheap, Clinton.

01:17:40.000 This would signify a massive conflict of interest in any regular, objective, fair and non-corrupt person.

01:17:48.000 Yet this was the duplicitous act de jure by Attorney General Merrick Garland and the Biden administration.

01:17:54.000 If the situation were reversed and Trump was in office and did something like this, Democrats would demand it not stand.

01:17:58.000 And given their history, they would probably file articles of impeachment, launch a criminal investigation and bring an indictment.

01:18:04.000 Simply put, this is why much of the country claims Trump's indictment, no matter the legal basis for any of them, are nothing more than political persecution.

01:18:12.000 The Biden administration and Democrats have demonstrated they cannot be trusted when it comes to matters of justice.

01:18:17.000 If Trump broke the law, then hold him accountable.

01:18:19.000 If not, leave him alone.

01:18:20.000 But there shouldn't be one set of rules for people named Trump, and another set entirely for those named Biden.

01:18:25.000 And based on all available evidence, that's exactly how it seems to any objective person paying attention.

01:18:30.000 So there you are!

01:18:32.000 Seems like the reason that there cannot be a thorough investigation of the Biden business affairs is because a thorough investigation would reveal corruption.

01:18:40.000 I think many of us intuit that.

01:18:42.000 Presumably, even people that have strong fealty to the Democratic Party on some level recognize that there is corruption within the system, that there is corruption within the Biden family, and what they would probably say is, yeah, but it ain't as bad as the Trumps.

01:18:55.000 What I would say is there shouldn't be corruption of this degree in any of the institutions of government that we, the people, What I'm saying is that this is evidence that when you take the temperature of the system, you find that it is corrupt through and through, that it is overbaked, undercooked, that it's full of salmonella, that this is a diseased feast that we're being invited to eat.

01:19:16.000 And the only way that they can obscure that is through the language of politics, bureaucratic nomenclature that's confusing, obfuscating and distracting.

01:19:24.000 If we spoke plainly to one another about politics, it would sound like this. 0.65

01:19:27.000 Both parties are corrupt.

01:19:29.000 Both parties are funded in ways that means that it's impossible for them to do their job.

01:19:34.000 The Biden administration's primary function is to create the perception of difference between them and the Republicans, and in particular Trump.

01:19:42.000 Plainly, they want to elevate the Trump issue to a degree that it's the only thing in the political conversation.

01:19:47.000 In part, it would seem, because they've got a lot of corruption and hypocrisy to deal with within their own party and their own family.

01:19:54.000 But that's just what I think.

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