Pfizer and Moderna are testing for Myocarditis as a potential consequence of their vaccines. Is there a link between vaccines and heart disease? In this episode, we talk to the author of Living Untethered, Michael S Singer, about his new book, 'Living Unwethered' and the recent appearance of former British Health Minister Matt Hancock on the British TV show 'Get Me Out Of Here' where he was asked whether he thinks vaccines should be banned. We also discuss the impact of mass lockdowns across the world, and the role of fear and censorship in order to stifle debate and stifle dissent. We're joined by the writer of the fantastic book, Living Unethered Michael Singer, to discuss the implications of these developments, and why we should all be concerned about them. You can catch up with the full show on our social media accounts here and here. Stay free, stay free, and stay free! Stay safe out there, and Stay Free, and Don't Get Lost in the Pandemic. - Russell Brand - This episode is brought to you by Pfizer, I'm Looking For The Seal. In this video, you're going to see The C-C-Circuit. This is The C.C.U.I represent the C- Circuit, and I represent The C+C-U-E-K-U. This is the C+E-C. (The C+K-E.E-R-A-D-S-U (C+C+A-U). (C) (c) - This is a show where we're looking for the truth about what's going on in the pandemic, not the lies we're telling us about it, and we're trying to tell us, and trying to make sense of it, so we can be a little bit more of it. . (A) The truth about it? And we're here to help us understand it, not less scary, not more scary, and more scary? (F) (C-C+E (D) - I'm looking out there (I'm Looking for the Seal). (E) - C+A C+U ( ) (B+E) (A-) (H) (F). (C-) Is it a pandemic?
00:00:55.000Hello and welcome to Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:57.000We've got a fantastic show with you today.
00:01:00.000We're talking about myocarditis and the recent revelations that both Pfizer and Moderna are testing for myocarditis as a potential consequence of their vaccines.
00:01:12.000We frame this also with the recent appearance of the former British Health Minister Matt Hancock on the British TV show, I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here.
00:01:21.000And I suppose what question that leads me to ask is, Are we kind of living in a bizarre spectacle now?
00:01:26.000We've asked this question so much on this show.
00:01:28.000Where politics is entertainment, where entertainment is politics, and where conversations with a former high-ranking government official pass for entertainment on a mainstream TV show before we've had a chance to resolve many of the issues that affected so many people during the last two years.
00:01:47.000Whether it's lockdown, regulations around medications, there are so many questions to ask.
00:01:53.000Then we'll be talking to our guest, Michael Singer, who's the writer of the fantastic book, Living Untethered.
00:01:58.000Because as you know, on this show, we believe that your personal spiritual awakening and political activity are connected.
00:02:07.000That if we are not in a fit state to deal with our own emotional and psychological reality, we won't be able to deal with the complex sociological conditions that we live within.
00:02:18.000We've been talking about Pfizer and Moderna's recent tests for myocarditis.
00:02:26.000On the NBC website that we looked at the story broken on, it says they're testing for any connection between the vaccines and myocarditis, if there is any.
00:02:36.000So there's literally no confirmation that there is a connection between vaccines and heart disease, but it is now being trialled for.
00:02:43.000That's just to sort of set out what the conditions are.
00:02:46.000But the conversation Generally speaking, around the pandemic is altering.
00:02:50.000And I think it's important for us to avoid hysteria when discussing this subject.
00:03:00.000To focus on just what's being proven and what's demonstrable.
00:03:03.000But it does seem that people are starting to re-evaluate their perspectives on this subject.
00:03:09.000People that were very, let's say, pro-vaccine, pro-mandates, pro-lockdowns, are starting to suggest now that condemning unvaccinated people, for example, as you
00:03:20.000know many unvaccinated people who lost their jobs for example, are starting to suggest that this
00:03:26.000situation ought be looked at differently.
00:03:28.000What were you going to bring up there, Gareth? Even in the same article it says both Pfizer and
00:03:33.000Moderna are launching clinical trials to track health issues, if any, in the years following
00:03:38.000a diagnosis of vaccine-associated heart problems in teens and young adults.
00:03:41.000But in the same article it then says there have been around a thousand reports of vaccine-related myocarditis in children under age 18 according to the CDC.
00:03:51.000So even as I say in the exact same article at the start they say if any and then they go on to say that there have been reports of around a thousand.
00:03:59.000So we do know that that's the case and that's in the same article.
00:04:02.000Right, so it already suggests there's a connection.
00:04:06.000And obviously this has been something that has been, you know, we know about the Florida surgeon who was banned from Twitter for recommending that men under 40 didn't get the vaccine due to cardiac related deaths.
00:04:18.000Obviously it's one of those areas where you have to Where the idea of censorship comes into, I mean it's very important at this point, like who's able to talk about it and who's not.
00:04:29.000Even on this channel, or certainly on YouTube, we've had to wait until it's been discussed in the mainstream media.
00:04:36.000And I also, from a personal perspective, don't want to find myself encamped with people that are kind of crazy about this stuff.
00:04:45.000What is troubling me existentially is that a couple of years ago there was a complete inability to discuss these things.
00:04:58.000Was it from a laboratory leak or was it from a wet market?
00:05:02.000That was once the territory of conspiracy, the necessity for lockdowns and their success and impact.
00:05:10.000We now know that across the world, and speaking particularly and personally about the UK, that the government ministers and officials that were in charge of implementing those lockdowns were ignoring them.
00:05:22.000Now the most cynical analysis of that would be that for some reason they did not share the fear that they were inviting us to participate in.
00:05:31.000You could even further extrapolate that a culture that is governed by and guided by fear is a culture that's easier to manage.
00:05:41.000If you note how often you're invited, outside of the issue of the pandemic, just generally to be in a state of anxiety, desperation and fear.
00:05:56.000You have to ask yourself, what kind of society are we inhabiting?
00:06:00.000What kind of culture are we being invited to participate in?
00:06:04.000This is why I reiterate that there is a necessity for a personal and collective spiritual awakening.
00:06:10.000One of the challenges that I find with spirituality is that it's often presented as a kind of solipsistic issue, something that's personally undertaken.
00:06:19.000But all of our morals and ethics and systems of government are undergirded by, for example, humanitarianism, which is derived from spiritual ideas like, for example, I don't know, equality, human rights.
00:06:32.000Where do you, from where do you derive those principles if there isn't something spiritually valuable about humanity and even life itself?
00:06:40.000That's why I'm so excited to be speaking to Michael Singer, the author of Untethered soul and also his new book Living Untethered who's been on our show many times and who I'm always personally grateful to see because I'm always quite close to a mental breakdown.
00:07:05.000Michael, thank you so much for saying.
00:07:07.000The last time we spoke, I was in a state of crisis.
00:07:10.000I recall using you almost as a therapist.
00:07:14.000I felt like, right, I'm talking to Michael Singer now.
00:07:17.000This is a person who I regard as a sort of a modern day sage, a contemporary yogi, an unordained priest.
00:07:25.000So now that I'm in this position of crisis, Instead of interviewing Michael in an abstract way, I'm going to speak to him plainly and candidly about my fears.
00:07:35.000Well, today, I feel that because of the nature of the work we generally do, where we talk about political corruption, centralised power, the nature and role of the media in keeping a population spellbound, I wonder how you feel that your work, which focuses on individual and personal awakening, an ability to sort of almost become, I don't want to mangle your life's work, but to become the witness consciousness rather than the objects within our consciousness, to try to get beyond the stored fear and anxiety that most of us experience.
00:08:10.000How do you feel that this individual work relates to the kind of society that we're living in and the kind of systems that we occupy.
00:08:18.000And also, Michael, because I know your answer, I pray your answer will be a long and coherent one.
00:08:23.000How do you feel that these are individual problems that we're experiencing or problems that are somehow socially induced?
00:08:43.000Let's say that every single person on the earth was completely content, happy, filled with love, and feeling peace inside.
00:08:53.000There would be no wars, there'd be no conspiracies, there'd be no conspiracy theories, there would just be people getting along.
00:09:01.000John Lennon, imagine all the people living life in peace, sharing all the world.
00:09:06.000If you're okay inside, You're not manipulating other people.
00:09:10.000There is no fear of some centralized government that wants to take from you or has some motive that individual, you know, Congress and different people have motives to say empower and so on.
00:09:20.000The only reason people want all that is because they're not okay.
00:10:32.000If everybody writes, if I get, excuse me, if I get 7 million upvotes, I'm not a Facebook guy, I'm not on Facebook, but I think there's such a thing as, you know, acceptance, whatever it is, you feel wonderful that day.
00:10:44.000If all of a sudden you get a bunch of downvotes, you don't feel so good.
00:11:07.000There'd be no reason to be having all these talks because people would respect each other, they'd honor each other, they'd share with each other.
00:11:51.000Now, I'm not okay inside, and I still believe that my inner life can be improved by the management of external circumstances.
00:12:00.000I've found this to be Sisyphean, an endless daily task that seems futile and resets each day at dawn, draining and unsuccessful.
00:12:11.000Even though I've been in recovery for almost 20 years, that means I'm abstinent from drugs and alcohol, even though I meditate every day, even though I place spirituality at the forefront of my life, I still find that a lot of my time is spent feeling inadequate, inferior, hungry, hungry for pleasurable experiences.
00:12:30.000My primal drives often dominate my psychological life.
00:12:35.000Now, I don't want to make excuses for myself, Michael, but when we talk about, say, if we isolate even the issue of mental health and the sense that we are experiencing a decline and a deterioration in the area of mental health, on one level, this is of course a situation experienced subjectively by each individual, presumably, But on the other hand, it appears that we're living in a culture that is inducing this state.
00:13:03.000Now I'm not suggesting here that this is a result of a centralised massive conspiracy, but it does indicate to me that there are a set of values that are promoted And almost enshrined, that are to do with materialism, individualism, and a kind of negligence of the kind of principles that we're discussing, surrender, gratitude, acceptance.
00:13:25.000You know, in your book, The Surrender Experiment, it's almost like you said you used the fidelity of surrender as a guidance principle, and the results were a kind of abundance.
00:13:33.000So, I suppose what I'm trying to say is that these conditions that, you know, just speaking for myself, are not occurring in a vacuum.
00:13:40.000I'm a participant in a cultural discourse and, like, my own not-okayness in here is being exacerbated and stoked by cultural conditions that, admittedly, that I'm participating in and seem unable to surmount, but what is the role of our culture and how do we alter that culture?
00:14:13.000I can manipulate somebody or try to make them be the way I want them to be, but I can't do everything, all right?
00:14:18.000So I have to decide at some point in my life, and I decided very young, am I going to sit there and let all that stuff you just talked about ruin my life?
00:14:58.000Go out there and say, I have to change everything which you already told me makes you neurotic.
00:15:02.000I have to change every single thing, every single moment so I can be okay inside.
00:15:06.000Or you can say, wait a minute, I'm the one who's in here.
00:15:09.000And you're going to find out if you do real work on yourself, and I'm not saying you don't, but if you do real work on yourself, that you're causing your own problems inside.
00:15:17.000You're not causing everybody else to be the way they are, but you're causing the fact that if somebody doesn't like you, it bothers you, right?
00:15:29.000So you start to work inside to say, can I at least set an example for humanity All right, that you can be okay in the middle of all this, or you can complain about it, but it doesn't do any good.
00:15:53.000Can you do something to where you're at peace inside, you're whole inside, so that now you can come out and instead of complaining, I'm not saying you're complaining, you're very good and you help a lot of people, but instead of it just being a lot of what's wrong, you can come out here and help.
00:16:59.000Yeah, and he said, man is the sum of his learned experiences.
00:17:03.000You're not the sum of your learned experiences.
00:17:05.000You're the consciousness that is aware that your mind is the sum of your learned experiences and your emotions are the sum of your learned experiences.
00:18:04.000And my experience is, as you learn to let go of that stuff inside, underneath it there's this beautiful energy.
00:18:12.000The energy that you feel when things are the way you want, whether it be relationships, whether it be success, that energy is always there.
00:18:19.000It's just you set up conditions that have to happen for you to feel it.
00:18:24.000When you start to let go of those conditions which are based upon your suppressed stuff, it's not different than psychology, it just goes deeper, all right?
00:19:41.000You interact to give because you don't need it to be a certain way.
00:19:45.000There are things that you are saying that have a universal resonance.
00:19:52.000It appears that my inner life is a response to a set of embargoes and injunctions that I have placed upon reality, that I have curated an inner geometry that traps certain experiences.
00:20:07.000I identify with what you say about there being hands, that I am curating a museum of personal misery and experience within myself.
00:20:20.000I know that what you're saying is true.
00:20:23.000Where I am, and there are times actually, and it's exactly in accordance with your guidance Michael, there are times where I think I'm going to let go of how I think this organisation that I work within, this movement, is going to be run.
00:20:40.000I'm going to even let go of how I think my children should regard me in reality.
00:20:44.000I'm going to let go of how my wife sees me.
00:20:46.000I'm going to let go of what I think I want and what I think I'm entitled to, this sort of inner religion, because My understanding of reality is negligible.
00:20:57.000The amount of reality that I experience through my limited five senses, it's so close to zero that it's almost not worth basing opinions on.
00:21:08.000The sum total, in fact, of human knowledge, when compared to the vastness of all potential knowledge, is negligible.
00:21:17.000So is it then that what you recommend at the level of the individual, a kind of total surrender and recalibration towards service, is what you believe ought be the guiding principles of humankind?
00:21:33.000And if this is so, why Why would the optimal state for a human being and the optimal state for a society and a culture be so hard to achieve, to be so antithetical?
00:21:48.000Why have we found ourselves at odds with reality?
00:26:47.000Except for some beings who work with themselves enough to where they don't need to do that.
00:26:53.000And somehow they have had a major effect on the world.
00:26:56.000Thank you, Michael, in spite of the fact that you've obviously explained to us exactly what's required.
00:27:01.000I'd like to take a moment for us to look at our item, Here's the News Now, Here's the Effing News, where we talk about the complexity of experienced and rendered reality, how we're asked as a culture to endure and evoke a type of amnesia.
00:27:18.000Forgetting that a couple of years ago there was a very deliberate perspective where figures that were once in positions of political high office are now appearing in reality TV shows and this is expected to provide a kind of cultural catharsis and evoke a type of amnesia where we forget just a couple of years ago this person was making decisions based sometimes I think on deception and being personally deceptive in ways that are not being addressed here but are just being witnessed as entertainment.
00:27:51.000Similarly in this video we talk about myocarditis and new tests that Pfizer and Moderna are undertaking to see if there is indeed a link between certain medications The British health minister in charge of the pandemic is now in a celebrity show eating testicles in the jungle.
00:28:17.000Meanwhile Pfizer and Moderna are finally testing vaccines for their impact on myocarditis.
00:28:23.000So we ask, was the entire pandemic a reality show?
00:28:30.000During the pandemic, the British Health Minister was Matt Hancock.
00:28:33.000That means he was essentially in charge of the lockdown restrictions, the policies around vaccines, moving elderly people from one care home to another where they could infect one another, where lockdown measures were imposed on ordinary people that were not met by the government.
00:28:48.000He himself, of course, broke those lockdown restrictions to have an extra marital affair.
00:28:56.000The reason we're talking about this is because Pfizer and Moderna are now testing their vaccines for their impact on myocarditis.
00:29:02.000This means that the narrative around Covid continues to shift.
00:29:06.000The reason for having vaccine passports, the reason for having vaccines at all, the reasons for having lockdowns, the efficacy of vaccines, the impact of Covid.
00:29:16.000The question that we're offering you is What kind of reality are we living in now?
00:29:21.000Where a minister who a couple of years ago was in charge of these measures, who was responsible for reporting these regulations to the nation, is now in a reality TV show eating testicles, joshing and joking.
00:29:34.000I suppose the broader question that we're asking now is what is the nature of our democracy?
00:29:40.000What is the nature of our reality when the place that you're most likely to see a reasonable debate about the pandemic and its impact is on a reality TV show where politicians and pop stars and athletes eat animal genitalia for the amusement of the public?
00:29:55.000And how do we square that with the fact that pharmaceutical companies are now finally conducting tests for the potential impact of those vaccines on heart conditions?
00:30:22.000Okay, so let's have a look at what that straight story might be.
00:30:26.000Matt Hancock gave PPE contracts to his friends.
00:30:28.000That means that some of the equipment that's used in hospitals was manufactured by companies that Matt Hancock personally awarded contracts to.
00:30:37.000In many cases, companies that had no experience in the manufacture.
00:30:40.000So it's an explicit example of what would seem to be corruption.
00:30:45.000He discharged untested residents from hospitals back into care homes, resulting in a vast death toll.
00:30:50.000The government that he was part of used legal coercion to restrict basic human freedoms of the entire population for the best part of two years, while disobeying them themselves.
00:30:59.000Now I suppose it's ordinary and natural that times move on, that there is progress, but has there been a real reckoning?
00:31:08.000Have we really addressed what went on in those two years?
00:31:11.000Have we addressed the measures that were taken medically, socially, legally, ideologically, the shaming of unvaccinated people?
00:31:20.000Again, I'm not offering you a concrete conclusion on what would have been the best way to handle that pandemic, but in retrospect, It looks like many of the measures that were taken were advantageous to pharmaceutical interests, big tech interests, government interests.
00:31:36.000I'm not saying that's why those measures were undertaken, but one of the, let's call them glorious serendipities of the entire process, is that the situation was ultimately advantageous to some very powerful interests.
00:31:47.000Now, as we move into a post-Covid world, shall we call it that, we do have to recognise that many of the measures that were introduced were potentially not effective, and in some cases detrimental.
00:31:57.000That's if we look at the impact on mental health, other cancers, many of the medical conditions that were neglected during that period.
00:32:04.000So the idea that we might, as one article in the Atlantic suggested, just move on and forget about it is, I think, irresponsible.
00:32:11.000I'm not saying that we should continue to stoke tensions between people who politically supported the measures of the pandemic and people who politically were against them.
00:32:20.000I recognise that truth is necessary for people to move forward and amnesty is one thing.
00:32:26.000That means putting aside our differences and Amnesia is where we forget what happened.
00:32:31.000Because if we forget what happened, what my concern would be is that we move into this nihilistic space without categories, where nothing has any meaning anymore, where politicians turn up on TV joking about something that a couple of years ago was ruining people's lives, that corporations aren't held to account for their actions, that medical due diligence is not correctly observed and discussed.
00:32:55.000The issues that were vehemently politicised a couple of years ago are now just sort of brushed aside and swept under the carpet.
00:33:02.000If we do that, I feel that we're moving closer to a kind of technocratic, technological dictatorship where we can't meaningfully participate in the way that our lives are governed, where we're spellbound by literal spectacles while forgetting the impact that the last two years had on a lot of people's lives.
00:33:48.000It's interesting that it comes down to sort of semantics and regulatory language that guidelines were offered, like you shouldn't leave the house, you shouldn't mix with people from other households.
00:33:58.000Can you remember the moral hysteria of that period?
00:34:02.000Can you remember how people sort of went on the television to say, we should condemn unvaccinated people?
00:34:22.000Well, that's not what it was like two years ago.
00:34:24.000Two years ago, there was tyrannical certainty, dictatorial certainty.
00:34:30.000And those people and those interests are broadly still in power.
00:34:33.000Of course, some of the individuals are being moved on.
00:34:36.000But what I'm asserting is the same system that was in power then is in power now.
00:34:42.000A figure like Matt Hancock, in case you're American and don't understand it, can easily be scapegoated and disregarded.
00:34:47.000He seems like he might be a bit of a twit, a bit of a nitwit, but his sacrifice and humiliation on a celebrity TV show in order to sell books While it may offer a kind of purge and a kind of venting of the antagonism that many people felt during the last couple of years, what it doesn't do is address those fundamental problems.
00:35:07.000It doesn't address the relationship between the government and the media, the government and big business.
00:35:13.000It doesn't address the ability of powerful interests to control a narrative, and in this case, to control a population.
00:35:20.000Let's remember that during that lockdown, the government that he was part of held Christmas parties, regular gatherings, were ignoring the guidelines that they themselves put in place.
00:36:06.000I'm suggesting that we recognise this for what it is, part of a spectacle, and we patiently observe medical and scientific data as it emerges, and remember that it should be retrospectively applied to the conditions and circumstances that we've recently lived through.
00:36:21.000Because, you know, it was a mistake, because I fell in love with somebody, and we all know what happened.
00:36:39.000I had to sit by myself in the church at her funeral.
00:36:42.000We couldn't hug each other because we were following guidance.
00:36:45.000Clear now that what we're being offered in lieu of democracy is an actual reality tv spectacle.
00:36:51.000Is this the place where you have to go to witness this conversation?
00:36:55.000Are you concerned that on a show called I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here we're seeing a more explicit conversation about coronavirus and its impact than you will hear in congress or in parliament or any of those hearings where it seems opaque and bureaucratic where you don't get any clear conclusions?
00:37:12.000Are you worried that reality is becoming kind of detached from your actual lived experience?
00:37:19.000While I think it's sort of interesting that that's taking place and, you know, entertaining and sort of good in some ways, my concern is that this is what we're being offered instead of a functioning democracy.
00:37:30.000Do you remember years ago when these kind of reality TV shows became a phenomenon and people used to say, oh, it's interesting that people will vote for a singer on X Factor or Pop Idol or American Idol or whatever.
00:37:40.000But we don't have any democratic purchase when it comes to how our communities are run.
00:37:45.000And then it was seen as a sort of a joke, a humorous point to ponder, that people often remark that the biggest demographic at all, the biggest party as it were, is the party of people that don't bother voting at elections.
00:37:58.000Can you see the connection between this sort of odd nihilistic spectacle where people in a jungle discuss a catastrophe of a couple of years ago while voting the people in and out Meanwhile, nothing is actually getting done about the mistakes that were made, about the lies that were told, about the profits that were made.
00:38:17.000Do you not see that these things are connected?
00:38:19.000That it's not hysterical or conspiratorial to point that out.
00:38:33.000Do you recognise that that system includes the media, it includes the corporations that sponsor programs like this one, that it's an entrenched, deep, systemic problem that won't be solved by sort of hard conversations undertaken in a sort of a faux jungle, or even a real jungle, it might be a real jungle, I'm not saying that the jungle is part of the problem.
00:38:55.000What I'm saying is that we're being given a kind of synthetic snack Instead of a nutritious feast of true political discourse.
00:39:04.000But sorry for a lot of families, like mine, it doesn't really cut it.
00:39:07.000Yeah, that's one of the reasons that I, um, that I regret it as much as I do.
00:39:15.000That's one of the reasons I regret it as much as I do.
00:39:17.000It's odd that you're invited one minute to look at it from an emotional perspective, in a sort of a visceral or sentimental way, and at other times we were asked to follow the science, follow the data, look at the facts.
00:40:22.000How do you want to reorganise society?
00:40:25.000Do you want to reorganise it by having a sort of a heartfelt chat round a pretend campfire before someone goes off to eat a jar full of kangaroo bollocks?
00:40:33.000Or do you want a system where you have some ability to control your own life?
00:40:38.000Do you have regret regarding the way that as Health Minister you dealt with the pandemic as a whole?
00:40:45.000So the pandemic as a whole, no, I'm much, much more robust in my defence of it.
00:40:54.000Now, what I'll tell you from my limited experience in television is that those people will have been briefed.
00:40:59.000I'm not saying that the whole thing is constructed.
00:41:00.000But there would have been a moment where the woman talking to Matt Hancock would have been in sort of, I think they use a little boo in Celebrity, and they would go, what do you feel about the pandemic?
00:41:08.000And do you remember when people were released into care homes and the PPE equipment stuff?
00:41:12.000Yeah, well, it'd be good if you had a conversation with Matt.
00:41:14.000So it's not like it's a total construction.
00:41:18.000But this managed reality is, I'm afraid, Much too similar to the managed reality of Congressional discourse or Senate hearings or Parliamentary inquiries.
00:41:28.000When Matt Hancock referenced the Parliamentary inquiry, do you seriously imagine that the outcome might be the media were not explicit and transparent about the complexity of the situation?
00:41:40.000For the pharmaceutical industry were not made accountable for the vast profits that they were making.
00:41:44.000The clinical trial process was not as thorough as it ought to have been.
00:41:48.000We're only now looking at myocarditis.
00:41:51.000We banned people from discussing issues that were relevant and necessary.
00:41:55.000We condemned people and key workers lost their jobs as a result of ideas that have since been proven to be untrue and overturned.
00:42:05.000What will happen is your attention will be moved to another conflagration, conflict or war where you'll similarly be restricted in your ability to assess and analyse it.
00:42:16.000This little TV show and this vast issue demonstrate precisely what's going on in the world right now.
00:42:25.000You're being deliberately bewildered, nauseated, It's kept in a bilious state where you're unable to assess reality that induces a kind of nihilism.
00:42:35.000What is it that we are not allowed to discuss right now that in a couple of years you'll see someone on a dancing show or an ice skating show or where they're fired out of a cannon joking about it?
00:42:46.000Because already this is what's going on about myocarditis, which on this platform I wouldn't have been able to discuss probably two months ago, three months ago.
00:42:54.000Both Pfizer and Moderna are launching clinical trials to track health issues, if any, in the years following a diagnosis of vaccine-associated heart problems in teens and young adults.
00:43:02.000The if any there is a superfluous phrase inserted by NBC, where we got this information from, to indicate, well, there might be none.
00:43:11.000There are certainly some interesting graphs and data available.
00:43:15.000There have been around 1000 reports of vaccine-related myocarditis or pericarditis in children under age 18, primarily young males, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
00:43:28.000Most of those who develop the condition have fully recovered, although
00:43:31.000research so far has only looked at how well they're doing after several months. Some doctors
00:43:34.000wonder if it can cause permanent damage to the heart. Do you remember at the beginning of
00:43:39.000this pandemic and the beginning of the vaccine recommendations saying how can they possibly
00:43:43.000have clinically trialled it over a long time frame because we haven't had a long time frame?
00:43:48.000Do you remember how those questions were looked at as akin to saying, oh do you reckon aliens
00:43:53.000came here years ago and helped to advance human civilisation? Which I also believe actually. Now the
00:43:59.000first research in the US is underway tracking adverse health effects that may appear in the
00:44:03.000years following a diagnosis of vaccine associated heart problems.
00:44:06.000Now, I recognise that people aren't perfect, that people can make mistakes, and even large corporations with very chequered histories can make legitimate errors.
00:44:13.000All I'm suggesting is that at the beginning of this pandemic and during it, there was a degree of candour in the communications.
00:44:19.000We can't possibly know what the outcomes are because we haven't been able to do extensive trials yet.
00:44:23.000We're suggesting that people take these medications, but if you were cynical about those medications, we'd certainly understand that.
00:44:28.000We're not suggesting that it's going to prevent transmission because there have been no trials around transmission.
00:44:35.000It should be a decision that people make for themselves.
00:45:17.000That's how we're even able to talk to you about it.
00:45:20.000Because part of our model is, in order to ensure that we are not banned, we wait for mainstream media sources to report on this stuff, and then we give you it with perhaps a little edge of serrated truth.
00:45:33.000In some cases, people who have developed myocarditis after a viral infection can suffer scarring along the heart's tissue, reducing its ability to pump blood and circulate oxygen around the body, said Dr. Leslie Cooper, the chair of the Department of Cardiology at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.
00:45:47.000It's unknown how many people with vaccine-associated myocarditis will experience this scarring, he said, noting that about 20% of people with myocarditis linked to viruses go on to experience heart failure.
00:45:57.000It could be 2%, it could be 0%, it could be 20%, he said.
00:46:17.000I look forward to seeing that guy in a jungle or ice skating on a dolphin's back telling us that it was all a big joke and that he fell in love and he made some mistakes.
00:46:26.000PolitiFact said Facebook previously flagged myocarditis studies in its effort to combat false news and misinformation on its news feed.
00:46:34.000One of the aspects of this story has been censorship.
00:46:36.000Don't let these kind of shows and these kind of conversations fool you into thinking that there is transparency.
00:46:43.000This I would regard as still management of the information.
00:46:46.000Again, I'm not suggesting there's a conspiracy.
00:46:48.000There doesn't need to be a conspiracy when interests converge, as George Carlin always pointed out.
00:46:54.000If people have generally the same interests, there's no requirement for an explicit conspiracy.
00:47:00.000If mainstream media, government, big tech, big business are all porous organisations with revolving doors between them, there is no need for explicit conspiracy.
00:47:10.000FISA files were due to be fully released in 75 years.
00:47:12.000In 75 years, we'll have reality TV shows where Albert Baller, propped up using AI and vampire blood, totters about in some sort of snowscape, building igloos and laughing about all this in some post-apocalyptic reality show in which the few remaining humans giggle and chuckle and congratulate themselves and one another on a perfectly functioning democracy.
00:47:37.000I would say that Matt Hancock's appearance on I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here and the admission that there are aspects of vaccine health and consequences that were not openly discussed when it was important and relevant to do so shows us that what we're living in is a kind of spectacular reality.
00:47:54.000Where what we have instead of democracy is the appearance of democracy.
00:47:58.000Where what we have instead of honest conversation are contrived encounters after the fact with no ability to change our reality or our society or our systems based on the information that we are acquiring.
00:48:10.000Even when new regulation is introduced to control farmer pricing in the United States of America, we hear that it won't meaningfully impact their profits.
00:48:49.000Let me know in the chat and the comments what you thought about that.
00:48:54.000Michael, the reason that the 12 Steps continues to fascinate me is because it's predicated on the idea that, speaking personally, my addiction to alcohol or Drugs is merely an epitomising symbol of a kind of attachment to an external object required in order to be okay.
00:49:15.000And even in the most rudimentary and formative texts of the Twelve Steps, it says your alcoholism, for example, is merely an outer symbol of a deeper problem that are defined colloquially in that literature as self-centeredness.
00:49:32.000You're obsessed with yourself and you're obsessed with your desires.
00:49:39.000Then you will be confronted with the degree to which this self-centeredness is governing your life.
00:49:45.000Then we will show you what this self-centeredness looks like.
00:49:49.000And interestingly, one of the aspects of the 12 steps, steps 4 and 5 in particular, are an inventorying and confessional protest where you say, here are all the things I'm not okay with.
00:49:59.000My mum did that, my dad did this, this person broke my heart, my body's not how I want it to be, this happened, that happened.
00:50:05.000And then on sharing that, You recognise that it isn't the objective facts in themselves, but that at some point you've formed an impression of how reality ought be.
00:50:16.000And I suppose where I get fixated, and it's probably just another blankie, Michael, just another object, is that I wonder how we might influence cultural artefacts and conduits, you know, in the way that you do through your writing.
00:50:34.000influence these spaces so that they become avatars of a different type of reality because I don't know why I fetishize the global perhaps because of the scale of my own ego but like I fetishize oh this is what's happening in social media this is what's happening in geopolitics the current war in Ukraine why are we being told this information and this information is being excluded why during the pandemic Was this aspect of truth highlighted, and this aspect of truth neglected?
00:51:06.000And obviously the answer is, this truth suits the interests of the powerful, this truth is inconvenient to the interests of the powerful.
00:51:14.000My idea, Michael, one of my challenges is that I find it impossible to move between these rather narcissistic, personal travails.
00:51:30.000Like, you know, I want this, I want that.
00:51:31.000People need to treat me this way for me to be okay.
00:51:34.000And these, like, extraordinary, vast global issues, which I suppose in the scope of the cosmos are similarly trivial, if you can adapt and adjust to that scale, if you can adjust to that scale.
00:51:47.000So, I suppose then, like, it seems to me that your way of dealing with this has been to continually devote yourself to your own, this truth, the truth that you explain obviously better than I could, and To not allow yourself to latch, limp it, attach or connect to any of these glittering baubles on the carousel of apparently external experience.
00:52:13.000To remain devout, to remain faithful to this idea, to this sort of one truth, to this one truth of I am the awareness.
00:56:23.000The question has become totally different.
00:56:25.000They just become, OK, if you had beauty going on inside of you and some radical activist came to you and said, oh, my God, there's all this trouble with the virus and this kind of stuff.
00:56:36.000The first thing you would do is look with compassion and understand that is a view.
00:58:05.000I have a question though Michael Singer.
00:58:07.000It's about the nature of consciousness.
00:58:09.000Whilst materially we may be demonstrably finite, Is there something about the nature of consciousness that may be beyond spatial and temporal dynamics?
00:58:24.000And what do you feel about atheism as the pinnacle of material rationalism?
00:58:35.000Atheism appears to me, and I'm sure there's much more complexity to it than this, but it seems like a certainty that what is materially rendered and measurable is the apex of reality.
00:58:47.000And it seems to me that that's at odds with many of the things that you are saying.
00:58:51.000And it's curious to me that much of what you're saying is found in various spiritual, which I suppose by its nature means not material, not dogma, but writing and scripture.
00:59:04.000So, what do you think, may I ask you sir, is there something about the nature of consciousness that is transcendent of these systems of limitation and measurement?
00:59:18.000We can either make it a difficult question or a very simple question.
01:00:36.000There's a way that you can sit inside, your natural state is to sit inside, notice the thoughts, notice the emotions, and notice the world.
01:02:04.000The problem is that you are not okay inside.
01:02:07.000So therefore, it's saying that if you're not okay inside and money's making you be okay, and you're a miser and you're grabbing and you're holding and taking it, well then you're not, you know, definitely not in a good state.
01:03:20.000Who's noticing that if you see a person of a particular religion or a culture or something like that, that you either feel good or you feel icky?
01:03:42.000My daddy, there's all kinds of reasons that you got programmed to be that way.
01:03:48.000So ultimately, you come down to the point that the answer is always, you work on yourself to let go of this garbage that you've collected inside.
01:03:57.000And only when that ends up happening, people will be okay.
01:04:00.000And the people that are okay are helping everybody else.
01:06:37.000If you want to go drink to get rid of it, it's just going to go right back down.
01:06:41.000If you want to suppress to get rid of it, join a blog where everybody has the same problem and we all agree we have the right to have this problem.
01:08:14.000It says, I know that when your mother dies and you weren't able to get there because the plane was late and you felt guilty and you had all kinds of trouble for the rest of your life, all right?
01:08:23.000I know that when you hear the word mother, you feel weird.
01:08:26.000When you hear the word death, you feel weird.
01:09:16.000You know, if there's a fire in the house, it's bothering you, you better do something, right?
01:09:20.000But if the driver in front of you, they put his blinker on, and you spend the next five minutes driving, damn drivers, what's the matter with them?
01:09:27.000If they're driving in the wrong lane, when they're going slower, you're bothering yourself about stuff that you don't need to bother yourself about.
01:09:34.000So you start practicing Truly practicing, not on a meditation pillow, in real life, practicing letting go of the meaningless stuff.
01:09:44.000As a business person, you know I do business, right?
01:09:47.000I sit there and say, we made decisions based on cost-benefit analysis.
01:09:52.000If somebody came to me and said, here's an investment, the cost is 100% and the benefit is zero.
01:10:15.000If you will stop doing that, it will all happen.
01:10:19.000Literally, it will all happen if you take the attitude, I'm going to watch today what I bother myself about that there's no benefit for doing that.
01:11:52.000And then what happens is this joy starts flowing inside of you, and the more joy you have inside, the less you feel attached to things outside, and the more you're okay, and then you become a giver.
01:12:03.000So we didn't answer the source of consciousness.
01:12:08.000Yes, because Meister Eckhart says, the eye with which I see God is the eye with which God sees me, and that suggests that the idea of source, a teleology, an origin and a destination, is a difficult one to frame in an aspatial and atemporal, I can't even use the word context because it suggests that it's somehow contextless, So, when you talk about Source of Consciousness, and thank you for that by the way, I was really trying to do it and I was really recognising how embodied this pain is for me, that I wake up and I immediately feel like it's here and here, anxiety, pain, unhappy, what's going to make it happen?
01:12:53.000Something for the mouth is what I always think.
01:13:04.000to do something about this and of course the sort of dedicated clinical trials that I've been doing for 45 years by the way Michael, I hope 55 was an arbitrary example because I caught that when we used the number earlier and it was 10 years on top of my stated chronological time on this planet in this form with this identity.
01:13:36.000And the other thing, may I say, is that there are times when I experience this actual non-separateness, this beyond abundance, total unlimited-lessness.
01:13:52.000But like I, you know, I don't want it ever to go.
01:14:13.000If you're in a house and you're the only one living there, and you're the only one living in that house, and there's pizza crust all over the place, and boxes, and roaches, and all these things, you did it.
01:15:16.000To pull the consciousness into them, so that then you are distracted from this garbage as you store it inside.
01:15:22.000That's why everybody's doing everything, to distract themselves from themselves.
01:15:26.000Why not fix what's wrong inside and live a totally different life, which you say you've experienced sometimes, that is really beautiful in there.
01:15:34.000It can always be really beautiful in there.
01:20:09.000Thank you so much, Michael Singer, for spending time with us today, for providing a beautiful, expansive framework for the challenges that we face individually and culturally and collectively.
01:20:23.000found your books incredibly useful, evocative and powerful, living untethered and untethered soul, I love them.
01:20:31.000The challenge is, I suppose, for me personally, is that I have to continue this practice.
01:20:38.000I must have some kind of accompanying these extraordinary drives, I feel,
01:20:43.000and a type of amnesia that I move so easily away from principles that have been successful for me
01:21:18.000And in terms of remembering, 15 minutes in the morning, 15 minutes in the evening is all it really takes to remember the purpose of my day is to let go of this stuff that's inside and not put any more in.
01:21:31.000When you're done at the end of the night.
01:21:44.000If you will do that morning and evening, morning and evening, You will go to bed at night in a higher state than you woke up in the morning.
01:22:01.000Every day you go to bed in a higher state than you woke up.
01:22:06.000And you'll get really, it gets beautiful.
01:22:08.000Thank you, Michael Thinger, as always.
01:22:11.000Let me know in the comments, let me know in the chat how you find that helpful and if it makes you feel better about the things you're personally experiencing in your life, whether that appears to be induced by social, cultural or economic conditions.
01:22:22.000I want to let you know that this Wednesday we've got Books with Brad and we're going to be talking about Alice in Wonderland and our guest this Friday will be the farmer Will Harris who's the owner of White Oak Pastures.
01:22:33.000He's a regenerative farmer who's overtly, adeptly and articulately critical of Bill Gates in ways I think you'll find very interesting.
01:22:42.000I also want to let you know About a live event that we're doing in the town that I'm from, Greys.
01:22:47.000There's a campaign to save the theatre there, Thamesside Theatre.
01:22:50.000But when they were investigating, they discovered council-level corruption that involved billions of pounds.
01:22:55.000It's an extraordinary story, and we're doing a one-day event on the 5th of December.
01:23:01.000You can come and see me, Brad Evans, Mr G, and participate in a one-day event that will lead to that theatre being handed to the community.
01:23:09.000That thing that I'm always saying is the solution.
01:23:11.000Decentralizing power and allowing communities to run their own lives is something that we're focusing on on this event.
01:23:17.000There's a link in the description if you want to join me there on the 5th of December.