Stay Free - Russel Brand - February 20, 2026


Starmer’s Under-16 Social Media Ban and New York’s Muslim Dog Row — SF685


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 6 minutes

Words per Minute

170.61841

Word Count

11,312

Sentence Count

888

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

Russell Brand tries to bring real journalism to the American people with Stay Free with Russell Brand. This week, we discuss Marco Rubio's growing popularity, Big Food and Real Food, Social Media Ban in the UK, Mike Tyson apologising for a stupid question, and more.


Transcript

00:00:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
00:00:17.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.
00:00:18.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:21.000 We are free indeed.
00:00:22.000 Wherever you're watching us, why don't you make that choice and get over onto Rumble and acquire Rumble Premium if you ain't got it yet?
00:00:29.000 And while I take my first hit of Methylene Blue of the day, praying that I bypass the old Nash's, I want to point out to you that we've got a fantastic show coming up.
00:00:41.000 Social media ban in the UK.
00:00:45.000 How are they dressing it up as helping people?
00:00:47.000 Well, by saying they're protecting youngsters, of course.
00:00:50.000 Marco Rubio, we've got a story to discuss with his growing popularity after his performance at the Munich Security Conference earlier in the week.
00:01:01.000 We'll be talking about big food and real food.
00:01:03.000 In fact, here I am, just earlier today, apologising to Mike Tyson.
00:01:09.000 Have a look at this.
00:01:12.000 Thanks so much.
00:01:13.000 Do you want to say something to Mike Tyson?
00:01:15.000 He's coming on next.
00:01:16.000 Yes, I'm glad he's coming on because I've been wanting to challenge Mike to a fight.
00:01:19.000 Oh, no, he's bringing it.
00:01:21.000 Hello, Mike.
00:01:22.000 How amazing to be.
00:01:23.000 I love you, brother.
00:01:24.000 I love you.
00:01:25.000 I love you.
00:01:25.000 Praise the Lord.
00:01:26.000 I hope that you are free and in recovery.
00:01:28.000 I pray for you regularly.
00:01:29.000 I'd like to take this opportunity to apologise to you, Mike, for that time when I asked you a stupid question.
00:01:35.000 You probably don't even remember it.
00:01:36.000 You lived a big and busy life.
00:01:38.000 But I want to reiterate my respect and admiration for you as a champion and as a man in recovery and now as an advocate for these beautiful values.
00:01:47.000 And as I promised, I would tell Dr. Oz, your hair looks fantastic.
00:01:51.000 And I'm going to have to mean body hair by that because you're a shaved man.
00:01:57.000 But I also am confident that your body hair looks fantastic.
00:02:00.000 And I'll leave it there, Mike, because I don't want to, you know, re-cause the trauma.
00:02:04.000 Dollar, brother.
00:02:05.000 Dollar, brother.
00:02:06.000 Praise the Lord.
00:02:07.000 Cheers, Mike.
00:02:08.000 Thank you, brother.
00:02:09.000 God bless you.
00:02:12.000 It's good.
00:02:12.000 It's nice to know that any potential bad blood between me and all former heavyweight champions has been assuaged.
00:02:20.000 Let's get into the first story.
00:02:23.000 If you're British, and I am, so's Joe.
00:02:26.000 Massey, you're British, are you?
00:02:28.000 Yeah, English.
00:02:30.000 I can't even tell.
00:02:30.000 You're all over the place.
00:02:32.000 Dave and Jake, Americans, but nevertheless, you know, well.
00:02:36.000 Yeah, we're English.
00:02:37.000 Well, yeah, everyone's English.
00:02:40.000 We've got to find out.
00:02:42.000 Let's get that.
00:02:43.000 They're English.
00:02:44.000 Let's see what's going on in the UK with their social media ban.
00:02:49.000 Let's have a look firstly at what Keir Starmer, God Love Him, has announced.
00:02:53.000 Starmer has announced a consultation into setting a minimum age for social media.
00:02:57.000 Before that consultation takes place, however, ministers will write a clause into the existing children's well-being and schools bill that will enable them to enforce a ban quickly if that's what the consultation recommends.
00:03:09.000 These so-called Henry VIII powers allow the government to use secondary legislation to enforce an age limit rather than writing entirely new bill.
00:03:17.000 Now, I suppose what's interesting is they're lowering the age for voting.
00:03:20.000 They've always advocated for lower ages for consent, those weirdos.
00:03:24.000 At the same time, trying to restrict social media usage.
00:03:28.000 Let's have a look at this commentary on whether or not the UK should indeed wade into the waters already occupied by Australia and Spain, who have already imposed forms of social media control.
00:03:43.000 A social media ban for children under 16 has come into effect in Australia, representing a world first.
00:03:50.000 The move has been welcomed by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, but he has already warned it won't be easy to enforce.
00:03:57.000 The ban has already received mixed reactions across Australia, but it raises a wider question.
00:04:04.000 Should the UK enjoy I walked over that bridge once.
00:04:07.000 It's like a tourist experience you can do.
00:04:09.000 They sort of strap you on it.
00:04:10.000 You have to wear like a boiler suit, a jumpsuit.
00:04:12.000 Americans don't.
00:04:13.000 What do you call an all-in-one suit such as a plumber would wear?
00:04:17.000 You don't have a word for that.
00:04:18.000 A onesie.
00:04:21.000 They won't say overalls, Massey, though.
00:04:21.000 Overalls.
00:04:23.000 Overalls, yeah?
00:04:24.000 I think so, overalls.
00:04:25.000 Overalls, like Mario Brothers wear.
00:04:27.000 Yeah.
00:04:28.000 Overalls, that's what they say.
00:04:29.000 They say overalls.
00:04:30.000 Well, I wore overalls or a boiler suit in my language.
00:04:33.000 And I walked right over that bridge.
00:04:36.000 So I went right over that bridge.
00:04:38.000 And it was a strange experience.
00:04:39.000 It started off being terrifying.
00:04:41.000 Like, that was the first bit.
00:04:42.000 It was like, oh my god, this is so terrifying being up on this high steel bridge over Sydney Harbour.
00:04:48.000 And then after about 15 minutes, it was actually boring.
00:04:50.000 And it was the same experience.
00:04:51.000 It's interesting how quickly you adjust.
00:04:53.000 That's why I mustn't take drugs.
00:04:55.000 Because what starts off as terrifying quickly becomes boring.
00:04:59.000 Try Methyl.
00:05:01.000 Did you want to jump at any point?
00:05:02.000 Yeah, throughout.
00:05:03.000 I mean, that was to brighten it up.
00:05:06.000 Most of the time, this would liven the experience up.
00:05:09.000 A little jump into the abyss would cheer me right up.
00:05:13.000 All right, so look, we've all got children, and you just got to control yourself.
00:05:17.000 Do you want the government restricting your children's access to social media?
00:05:21.000 How are you going to do it then?
00:05:22.000 We can do that.
00:05:22.000 Yeah, we can do that.
00:05:23.000 Do it ourselves.
00:05:24.000 Parents, yeah.
00:05:24.000 Parents don't need a government.
00:05:26.000 So you think that that's not the real reason that they're doing it.
00:05:30.000 It's just like anything that they try to...
00:05:32.000 This is for your safety.
00:05:33.000 This is for your safety.
00:05:35.000 We care for you.
00:05:36.000 We love you.
00:05:37.000 Let's just come to the island and relax.
00:05:40.000 Here's Keir Starmer and Sadiq Khan.
00:05:43.000 Oh, wow, they've teamed up together at last.
00:05:45.000 Sadiq Khan, Mayor of London, and Keir Starmer teamed up to go, well, to a school.
00:05:51.000 Now, if I was a politician in the United Kingdom, the last place I'd be campaigning is a school.
00:05:55.000 I'm surprised them kids didn't flee for the fences immediately on sighting them.
00:06:00.000 Oh my god, there's a politician.
00:06:01.000 Protect your bums.
00:06:03.000 I was really glad to welcome the Prime Minister to Putney today to talk about immediate action to make the online world safer for children.
00:06:12.000 I've been campaigning on this.
00:06:13.000 I know that local parents, parents across the country want this action and the government is listening and putting in place new powers to keep children safe.
00:06:23.000 Ensure that no social media platform gets a free pass.
00:06:26.000 We selected this music to keep things bright and breezy while telling you that controlling you is for you.
00:06:34.000 We selected this like music so that you won't suspect that what you're watching is propaganda.
00:06:40.000 Listen to the nice head mistress.
00:06:42.000 I'm not saying she's not a nice head mistress.
00:06:44.000 I'm saying she's being exploited by that social media artefact.
00:06:47.000 That's designed to legitimise control.
00:06:52.000 And a new crackdown on AI chatbots.
00:06:55.000 I was here at St Mary's in Putney with the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, with the Secretary of State for Science and Technology, Liz Kendall, and with the Minister for Schools, Georgia Gould, all coming together to show how we can work across government to take the action needed.
00:07:13.000 I'm a parent, in fact, my daughter came along with me today.
00:07:17.000 And I know that the Prime Minister is a parent as well.
00:07:20.000 And we know that parents cannot keep ahead and be the people who are expected to police the system online.
00:07:28.000 It's got to be the social media companies that now are forced to take the action.
00:07:34.000 Forced!
00:07:35.000 Forced to do it!
00:07:37.000 It's lovely because it's soft propaganda and as usual, the lubrication for this particular piece of legislative sodomy is your protection.
00:07:48.000 It will be always your protection rather than their erection.
00:07:52.000 But I've been around politicians and power long enough now to know that whatever it is they're saying, what the aim will be is control.
00:08:00.000 Does this legislation advance their ability to control you?
00:08:04.000 Once the answer is yes, that was the objective.
00:08:07.000 Elsewhere, Starma is talking about allowing kids to vote at 16.
00:08:13.000 Let's check out the evident hypocrisy in this pair of measures.
00:08:16.000 George, I'm 17.
00:08:18.000 I wanted to ask about the representation of the people bill, which is being put before Parliament and how giving 16 and 17 year olds the vote risks being incompatible with a social media ban under 16 because the majority of young people get their news from social media, from their TikTok feed.
00:08:35.000 So I wanted to ask, you know, what provisions will the government put in place for citizenship education in schools, for example?
00:08:42.000 Well, a lot bound up in that.
00:08:45.000 Firstly, I'm a big advocate of votes at 16 and 17.
00:08:48.000 At 16 and 17, you are old enough and mature enough to make a decision about a government that ought to be and will be a government for you.
00:08:59.000 So it's really important that we have those votes.
00:09:02.000 We do need that we have those votes.
00:09:04.000 The assumption is that those he accidentally said the quiet part out loud.
00:09:10.000 The assumption is that 16 and 17 year olds will vote specifically for Labour, that their policies are oriented in that direction, that they recognise that they've lost popular support among so many demographics.
00:09:23.000 Only children would consider voting for them.
00:09:27.000 And they wouldn't consider it if they knew what a lot of these politicians' hobbies were.
00:09:31.000 We do need to make sure the citizenship is part of what we look at.
00:09:35.000 We've broadened the curriculum in schools because I think children and young people ought to learn about citizenship and how we operate as a society more generally.
00:09:48.000 It's very important skills that they need for life.
00:09:50.000 I'm acutely aware of your point about news because in politics there's always been a heavy sort of focus on newspapers but frankly I don't think many people have young people certainly ever read newspapers anymore or even sit down as a family and watch the six or ten o'clock news.
00:10:11.000 It's much more likely to be through social media and really goes with the point this gentleman made.
00:10:16.000 We must make sure that we're not cutting off sensible and good access for young people.
00:10:22.000 What an extraordinary and sort of sweet man Keir Starmer is in a number of ways with his sort of clumsy blundering through the talking points he was briefed on prior to that conversation and he's recognized that people aren't reading newspapers anymore.
00:10:38.000 Under 16 social media ban would almost certainly require compulsory digital ID.
00:10:43.000 So the first attempt at getting digital ID normalized and passed, it was going to be mandatory, has failed.
00:10:48.000 So I guess you know how these things are engineered.
00:10:52.000 For what reason would people submit to greater authority and control?
00:10:56.000 Well if their children were under threat.
00:10:59.000 I suppose if their children were under threat.
00:11:01.000 They reverse engineer scenarios that legitimise control that they would like to take anyway.
00:11:06.000 Let's have a look at a reliable authority, the authority of a loving God.
00:11:11.000 This is from 1 John 5 to 19.
00:11:15.000 We know that we are children of God and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
00:11:21.000 We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding so that we may know him who is true.
00:11:29.000 And we are in him who is true by being in his son Jesus Christ.
00:11:33.000 He is the true God and eternal life.
00:11:35.000 Dear children, keep yourselves from idols.
00:11:39.000 Well, there's a lot bound up in that to quote Keir Starmer, but it talks very clearly that first epistle of John does about authority.
00:11:50.000 Authority on earth from a scriptural and Christian perspective is said to be yielded to the devil, to evil.
00:11:57.000 And one of the things that surprised me most when coming to Christ is that my long learned and hard-earned understanding that the institutions of power, be they governmental or media or even smaller institutions, that these institutions were broadly speaking generally captured and corrupted, was underwritten by scripture.
00:12:18.000 That the Bible tells you clearly that we live in a fallen world, that there is such a thing as evil.
00:12:24.000 In our sort of rational time, to talk about the devil and evil and to talk about angels and goodness and even pure and essential ideas decoupled from this splendid and sometimes arcane seeming imagery is unpopular.
00:12:37.000 Look at the results of that.
00:12:38.000 You live in a bureaucratic and managerial world where a bureaucratic and managerial and I'm sure by God's grace a very sweet man like Keir Starmer wrestles with complex ideological notions using managerial and crass language with no certainty that there is such a thing as good or evil.
00:12:58.000 All there really is if there is no good or evil is expedience and power.
00:13:03.000 You need Christ.
00:13:05.000 You need to come to Christ personally.
00:13:07.000 You need to have an encounter with...
00:13:10.000 The real miracle of coming to Jesus is the understanding that within you is an access point to great, great power, to whole and total power.
00:13:20.000 One of the challenges that comes after that that I'm learning about is how to surrender yourself to that power and recognize that that power cannot be located on or directed towards false idols like that quote ends on in fact.
00:13:35.000 It ends with the warning that you must keep yourself from idols.
00:13:40.000 Idols being in our culture so evidently and obviously the idols that come at you through the culture that always leads you back to self and self-centeredness.
00:13:50.000 I'm very interested in where this sort of social media ban will go.
00:13:54.000 We know that ultimately what it will be used to do is control information under the auspices of protecting children.
00:14:00.000 But if you look at the way that the pandemic period was handled, we're all regarded as children by the state, vulnerable and capable of discerning truth from fiction ourselves, requiring of their constant guidance.
00:14:12.000 And that's precisely indeed how the Bible talks to us as well.
00:14:15.000 It recognizes our brokenness.
00:14:17.000 It recognizes throughout the Old Testament that the endeavors of prophets fail.
00:14:22.000 Kings are fallible.
00:14:24.000 And in the end, there is the requirement for God and man to align again, for a new covenant to be achieved, for our endless sin to be taken upon him, for a new frequency to be established.
00:14:36.000 This psychedelic aspect of Christ, what I mean by psychedelic, is something that's superior to, holy, set apart, divine, able to overwhelm this sort of static sense of self that I lived with, this cluster of memories and projections and fears and mount into a malleable self.
00:14:53.000 Look at them go through the world.
00:14:55.000 Note the bullshit.
00:14:56.000 Look at the vanity and deception of even that silly twinkling video.
00:15:00.000 Ding ding ding as they try to find ways to make sense of endless deception.
00:15:07.000 We're gonna over here we're gonna let kids vote.
00:15:09.000 Over here we're gonna control kids' access to social media.
00:15:12.000 This is why it all makes sense.
00:15:13.000 The game is up.
00:15:15.000 It's over.
00:15:16.000 And here's the answer.
00:15:17.000 As an individual, embrace Christ.
00:15:19.000 It's going to be strange for you and really hard for you.
00:15:21.000 And maybe like me, you'll require crisis.
00:15:24.000 Beyond that, believe in the power of democracy.
00:15:28.000 One person, one vote.
00:15:30.000 Use this technology that they're continually trying to implement to advance control to advance technology and democracy.
00:15:38.000 Technology and democracy are not opposed to one another.
00:15:41.000 They can align and work together.
00:15:43.000 As this idea becomes more popular, which it will over the next few years, you'll see it becoming more popular.
00:15:48.000 People will start talking about it.
00:15:49.000 People will put aside their old left-v-right biases and start saying, Yeah, actually, you're right.
00:15:54.000 If we had decentralized control of our own community, that would solve the problem.
00:15:57.000 People will talk about it more and more.
00:15:59.000 You will hear it.
00:16:00.000 What they'll say is it's not safe, that the machines will get hacked.
00:16:03.000 Of course, when they're in control of surveillance technology and digital ID, there's no problem with them getting hacked.
00:16:08.000 The fact that cash machines and ATMs all over the world aren't ever hacked.
00:16:13.000 No one ever hacks an ATM, do they?
00:16:15.000 And empties it off all of its money.
00:16:16.000 Suddenly, there will be new concerns about technology.
00:16:19.000 You watch.
00:16:20.000 The minute we start saying we're going to turn these devices against you, instead of giving you all our data so you can market to us and control us, we're going to use these devices to run our towns, our communities, our hospitals, our schools, our lives and our roads.
00:16:32.000 It's just logistics and operations.
00:16:36.000 That's all it is.
00:16:37.000 That's all you need a government for.
00:16:38.000 Logistics and operations.
00:16:40.000 Minimize their power.
00:16:42.000 You've already seen what happens when they maximize it.
00:16:45.000 You have already seen what happens when you let them behave as gods.
00:16:50.000 They are not gods.
00:16:51.000 They are fallen and broken.
00:16:53.000 They're no better or worse than you or I. Sometimes I think they're a bit worse with all the Epstein Island stuff and all that kind of thing.
00:16:58.000 But hey, none of us are perfect.
00:16:59.000 The point is this: don't worship false idols, children, like any political figure or cultural figure.
00:17:06.000 Trust the God within you.
00:17:07.000 But that's just what I think.
00:17:08.000 Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and the chat?
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00:19:00.000 There's a link in the description.
00:19:03.000 Indeed, here's a short piece from the show.
00:19:06.000 It was very funny.
00:19:06.000 Have a look at this.
00:19:07.000 Remember I was a drug addict for a long time.
00:19:10.000 Who are you nodding?
00:19:11.000 You was too, were you?
00:19:12.000 You look like you're on drugs right now, family sister, sir!
00:19:19.000 But Randy Sod, Henry VIII, couldn't get enough of it.
00:19:25.000 Couldn't get enough of it.
00:19:28.000 Listen.
00:19:30.000 Is your last pipe kicking in?
00:19:37.000 I'm about to say something that I consider to be quite funny.
00:19:40.000 Now, if I do, it also, it's always a risk that it's hurtful.
00:19:44.000 You never know.
00:19:45.000 I don't think so, though.
00:19:46.000 I think it's funny.
00:19:47.000 And I think we've established rapport you anyway.
00:19:50.000 Now, before I say it, are you willing to sort of stand up and rotate after I've said it?
00:19:56.000 Okay, on my cue.
00:20:00.000 If Einstein ran a meth lab, let's see what it says in here.
00:20:16.000 Do not accuse anyone in the audience of being the proprietor of a meth lab under any circumstances.
00:20:24.000 You know what happens, Russian.
00:20:26.000 Stick to the carefully engineered script.
00:20:32.000 I'd like to offer you an apology, sir.
00:20:37.000 Not necessary.
00:20:38.000 I love you.
00:20:38.000 Thank you.
00:20:39.000 Dogs!
00:20:40.000 Everyone loves them.
00:20:42.000 Muslims!
00:20:43.000 Everyone loves them as well because we've all got to love one another.
00:20:47.000 But what happens when it's dogs versus Muslims?
00:20:51.000 There can be only one winner.
00:20:55.000 Let's have a look at this.
00:20:55.000 Apparently there's a lot of conflict going on because of a dog versus Muslim war.
00:21:00.000 Let's check it out.
00:21:01.000 Firstly, NYC is coming to Islam.
00:21:03.000 Dogs definitely have a place in society, just not as indoor pets.
00:21:06.000 Like we've said all along, they are unclean, says Nadine Kiswani.
00:21:10.000 Okay, so there's a pro-Palestinian NYC activist saying she don't like dogs.
00:21:14.000 Now me, I love dogs.
00:21:16.000 You won't get it.
00:21:17.000 You'll get nothing but unbiased decisions and insights from me.
00:21:20.000 If they force us to choose between dogs and Muslims, it's not a difficult choice.
00:21:25.000 Oh my word.
00:21:26.000 Look at the world we are living in.
00:21:28.000 It's dogs v Muslims.
00:21:29.000 There can be only one true winner.
00:21:32.000 Allah Akbar!
00:21:36.000 Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, this is generally one of the most disgusting statements I've ever seen issued by an American official.
00:21:44.000 It should not stop shocking us.
00:21:47.000 The Republican Party openly embraces this.
00:21:49.000 Fine should be censured and stripped of committees to ignore this, to accept it, and normalize it.
00:21:54.000 Just have democracies, then it'll be solved.
00:21:56.000 I believe you should, if people want to run their community according to the Quran and Islam, they should be able to democratically.
00:22:02.000 If people want to have mass deportations, they should be able to democratically.
00:22:06.000 If people want to have communities of no dogs, they should be able to democratically.
00:22:10.000 I'd say have a dog town.
00:22:11.000 I'd love to live there, dog town.
00:22:14.000 And in dog town, it's them that picks my shit up.
00:22:17.000 Dog town!
00:22:19.000 Okay, let's have a look at Piers Morgan's Get Stuck In or is it still a still?
00:22:24.000 Here's Piers Morgan.
00:22:25.000 He posted on it.
00:22:27.000 There are a lot of white English people I would happily trade for a good weekly chicken ticker masala.
00:22:34.000 Well, go to Epstein Island.
00:22:35.000 They're eating people there anyway.
00:22:37.000 I think you can probably get that.
00:22:38.000 You could probably get a little boy chopped up and made into a cormorant.
00:22:42.000 Massey, what are you saying, baby?
00:22:44.000 So that's a really old tweet there of Piers.
00:22:47.000 But if you go back to the AOC one, you see Piers Morgan reacting to the first tweet by the congressman.
00:22:52.000 And then I pulled that one up to show that he says stuff like this himself all the time.
00:22:57.000 Ah, there, here he is.
00:22:58.000 Right.
00:22:59.000 So dear Piers Morgan.
00:23:00.000 Yeah, well, one of the charges leveled at Piers Morgan is that he rides the coattails of trends.
00:23:05.000 I've heard Candace Owens, for example, say that with his significant pivot on the COVID issue.
00:23:11.000 But this is, hey, I guess people do have the right to change their minds.
00:23:16.000 Here's Sneeko, a Muslim streamer who lives in Miami, demands that Americans keep their dogs at home because they are gross.
00:23:22.000 Let's see what Sneeko's saying about those hounds.
00:23:25.000 Fuck your dog.
00:23:28.000 Fuck your dog.
00:23:29.000 Keep your dog home.
00:23:30.000 I don't care.
00:23:31.000 It's not cute.
00:23:32.000 It's not, it's, I don't want to pet it.
00:23:35.000 I don't want to touch your dog.
00:23:36.000 Dogs are haram for a reason, and this was a sign from Allah.
00:23:39.000 There's shit all over my fucking rug.
00:23:42.000 Dogs are gross.
00:23:44.000 Have a child.
00:23:46.000 God wants us to have kids, not to have a bunch of fucking dogs.
00:23:50.000 Everybody in Miami pushing around a little Frenchie, putting a dog in a stroller.
00:23:55.000 Have a kid.
00:23:56.000 You're weird.
00:23:57.000 Fuck dogs.
00:24:00.000 Fuck dogs.
00:24:03.000 Man, people cannot actually even come to a peaceable agreement on pets anymore.
00:24:09.000 We can't live in this communication model for much longer, can we?
00:24:13.000 This is the, we're on the edge when people are willing to go to the mat over a pug in a buggy.
00:24:19.000 Let's have a look at, okay, the streets of New York are filled with dog stools.
00:24:24.000 Let's have a look.
00:24:30.000 No, that's not very nice.
00:24:32.000 Oh, Mamdani.
00:24:33.000 Mamdani.
00:24:36.000 This shopwalk is filled with shit.
00:24:44.000 Mike, this is ridiculous.
00:24:49.000 I'll sit on a step in there.
00:24:52.000 But yeah.
00:24:56.000 I ain't never seen no shit like that.
00:25:01.000 Pun intended.
00:25:03.000 I ain't never seen no shit like that.
00:25:05.000 Oh, well, there we go.
00:25:07.000 The cultural war has drawn yet another boundary upon which to squabble and quarrel and fight.
00:25:14.000 I think we need to radically decentralize pretty, pretty quickly.
00:25:18.000 I don't think cities work anymore.
00:25:20.000 I don't think mass communication works anymore.
00:25:22.000 I don't think a model where two teams vie for supremacy with the other team being submitted for a term, you know, in your crazy country and my crazy country is viable anymore.
00:25:34.000 If we can't come to some peaceable agreement on pets and sanitation, it shows you how hopeless the model is.
00:25:41.000 These are the end times, and in a way, that's good news.
00:25:43.000 And I welcome AI and constant synthetic reality because, as you've said before, Jake, perhaps that will encourage people to return to in real life physical contact, handshakes, and communities that we run together.
00:25:55.000 You know, you know that on one hand, you want to be able to get on with Muslim folk, you want to be able to get on with dog owners.
00:26:00.000 If that's going to start becoming separate camps, you know, my God, when it was like Israel-Palestine, it's like, well, these are ancient and difficult theological and geographical conflicts that are going to be playing out in the new world, in the new technological world.
00:26:16.000 But dogs, oh, God help us all.
00:26:18.000 Personally, I'm on the side of dogs.
00:26:20.000 I prefer to people.
00:26:22.000 I mean, and I mean that all people in general.
00:26:25.000 In fact, that's just my dog.
00:26:26.000 It's not all dogs.
00:26:28.000 You're part of the problem.
00:26:29.000 I'm part of the problem.
00:26:29.000 Right?
00:26:30.000 I'm sick of it.
00:26:32.000 I'm part.
00:26:33.000 Fuck you.
00:26:34.000 Where's my fire?
00:26:35.000 I'll kill you.
00:26:37.000 I'll shoot you dead.
00:26:38.000 Yeah, listen.
00:26:40.000 We need to change our attitudes to one another.
00:26:42.000 Okay, let's have a look.
00:26:43.000 What was the next one?
00:26:44.000 We don't need to worry about Marco Rubio, do we, right now?
00:26:47.000 Surely there can't be more Epstein file releases.
00:26:49.000 How about, well, Dave, it seems to me that you should contribute to this show and life in general.
00:26:57.000 What have you got, darling?
00:26:58.000 I've had my clip for a while.
00:27:00.000 Yes, lemons is what it says.
00:27:03.000 We've got a couple in there for you.
00:27:04.000 Introduce it, Dave.
00:27:05.000 Have you even seen it?
00:27:07.000 Yeah.
00:27:07.000 What is it, darling?
00:27:08.000 It's a guy that talks about lemons and he talks about taking over the worlds with a lemon empire.
00:27:15.000 Well, fair enough.
00:27:15.000 Let's have a look at Dave's clip, taking over the world with Lemon Empire, because, you know, at least it's not people scrolling about dogs.
00:27:24.000 Dog poo.
00:27:25.000 Here we go.
00:27:26.000 Life hands you lemons.
00:27:28.000 Make lemonade?
00:27:30.000 No.
00:27:32.000 First, you roll out a multimedia campaign to convince people lemons are incredibly scarce, which only works if you stockpile lemons, control the supply, then a media blitz.
00:27:42.000 Lemons are the only way to say I love you.
00:27:44.000 A must-have accessory for engagements or anniversaries.
00:27:48.000 Roses are out, lemons are in.
00:27:51.000 Billboards that say she won't have sex with you unless you've got lemons.
00:27:54.000 You cut the beers in on it.
00:27:56.000 Limited edition lemon bracelets, yellow diamonds called lemon drops.
00:28:00.000 You get Apple to call their new operating system OS Lemon, little accent over the oat.
00:28:05.000 The rest of this content will be off YouTube.
00:28:07.000 If you're watching this, there, you've got a few seconds to click the link in the description and join us over on Rumble.
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00:28:19.000 Well, you charge 40% more for organic lemons, 50% more for conflict-free lemons.
00:28:23.000 You pack the capital with lemon lobbyists, you get a Kardashian to suck a lemon wedge in a leaked sex tape.
00:28:30.000 Timothy Chalabay wears lemon shoes at Can get a hashtag campaign.
00:28:36.000 Something isn't cool or tight or awesome.
00:28:39.000 No, it's lemon.
00:28:42.000 Did you see that movie?
00:28:43.000 Did you go to that concert?
00:28:44.000 It was F lemon.
00:28:47.000 Billy Heilish, O MG Hashtag Lemon.
00:28:53.000 You get Dr. Oz to recommend four lemons a day and a lemon suppository supplement to get rid of toxins because there is nothing scarier than toxins.
00:29:02.000 Then you patent the seeds.
00:29:06.000 You write a line of genetic code that makes lemons look just a little more like tits.
00:29:11.000 And you get a gene patent for the titlemon DNA sequence.
00:29:14.000 You cross-pollinate.
00:29:16.000 You get those seeds circulating in the wild.
00:29:19.000 And then you sue the farmers for copyright infringement when that genetic code shows up on their land.
00:29:25.000 Sit back, rake in the millions, and then when you're done and you've sold your lempire for a few billion dollars, then and only then you make some fucking lemonade.
00:29:41.000 There they go That's a way to organize a campaign with the old lemons.
00:29:47.000 Now, what about the I want to talk about this image of Bail being burned in Iran?
00:29:55.000 Check it out.
00:30:57.000 Yeah, the world's clapping.
00:30:58.000 It's pretty interesting, isn't it?
00:30:59.000 Like, kind of could be good from a spiritual perspective, not to feel freighted and weighed down by the past, but with history kind of living and all of these sigils and signs and endless AI.
00:31:16.000 It's interesting.
00:31:17.000 We're right in the midst of an absolute cyclone.
00:31:20.000 And Joe McCann, there happily beneath his own rosary, was about to tell us that Satan will masquerade as an angel.
00:31:30.000 Why?
00:31:31.000 I mean, yeah, I wouldn't dispute it.
00:31:33.000 Why, Joe, why are you saying this?
00:31:36.000 I believe it says in somewhere in Revelations, didn't it?
00:31:38.000 That Satan will masquerade as an angel.
00:31:41.000 That's my understanding of it.
00:31:43.000 Anyway, I should have pulled this up really.
00:31:44.000 I'd have been more prepared.
00:31:45.000 Oh, right.
00:31:46.000 Yeah, I didn't tell you that we were going to do this all of a sudden.
00:31:49.000 I forget that not everyone's inside of my mind all of the time.
00:31:53.000 Well, this is why we've chosen it, because I guess we have this asset that illustrates it.
00:31:59.000 Let's check that out and then we'll talk about it.
00:32:00.000 All these little breadcrumbs that they're dropping, these Epstein files that so many of you are just gobbling up, not only are they a distraction from whatever else is going on, but they are being done strategically.
00:32:12.000 They are being dropped intentionally to get the world sick and tired, to get the world fed up, to get the world disgusted at this satanic system.
00:32:20.000 So that when the AC arrives and exposes it all and tears it all down, he will be seen as a Christian.
00:32:29.000 He will be seen as doing the Lord's work because he's tearing down a satanic system that everybody is sick of.
00:32:36.000 And see, what the enemy is doing is he is propping up people on the world stage to do that exact thing, but on a much smaller scale.
00:32:44.000 And when they do, they are instantly seen as a Christian.
00:32:47.000 They are instantly seen as somebody who is saved.
00:32:49.000 They are instantly seen as somebody who follows Jesus because they are now on our side.
00:32:54.000 They are talking about the evil.
00:32:55.000 How can they not be saved?
00:32:56.000 How can they not be a Christian?
00:32:58.000 How can they serve Satan when they are talking about the very system?
00:33:02.000 See, I think the church has just forgotten that the word of God warns us that Satan masquerades as an angel of light, that his followers masquerade as servants of righteousness.
00:33:15.000 And see, that paves the way for the Antichrist because when he steps out onto the scene, he's going to expose and tear down the satanic system and the world is going to applaud him because he's a Christian.
00:33:25.000 He's tearing down evil.
00:33:26.000 I address this on my ex account and half the comment section now thinks she's Christian.
00:33:32.000 Half the comment section thinks that she's saved, that she's on our side now because she's addressing the evil.
00:33:39.000 Satan is crafty, y'all.
00:33:41.000 He is clever and he masquerades as an angel of light.
00:33:47.000 Lucifer is the angel of false light.
00:33:50.000 And if you, I think sometimes that we are continually spellbound in the dark black mirror of endless narcissistic technology.
00:34:01.000 Man, I want to attack this addiction head on.
00:34:04.000 It's time for crack on with Russell, Dave, and Joe.
00:34:09.000 This podcast is not allied with nor endorsed by any particular 12-step fellowship.
00:34:14.000 Although we may reference their literature, we do not represent these organizations.
00:34:19.000 The primary purpose of this podcast is to provide additional support to men and women who walk the path of recovery.
00:34:25.000 We share our personal experience of the 12 steps in the hope that others can benefit.
00:34:29.000 Take what is useful, disregard what isn't.
00:34:32.000 Apologies in advance for any offense caused.
00:34:34.000 Any other problems?
00:34:35.000 Take them to your God and to your sponsor.
00:34:40.000 Did you bring us a reading today, mate?
00:34:43.000 Yeah, this is from the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous, page 25.
00:34:48.000 That's very early in the book.
00:34:50.000 So like, why, firstly, so that I know how to listen to it and why I'm listening to it.
00:34:56.000 Like, I know that page 25, early in AA, like, I mean, obviously early in the book, it's a formative page.
00:35:03.000 You still talk about alcohol and dependence on alcohol.
00:35:06.000 What was it about this?
00:35:08.000 No, really.
00:35:10.000 No, I don't think so.
00:35:12.000 So the reason why I say that is, right?
00:35:15.000 So this book, the first 164 pages, is where the program of recovery comes from.
00:35:22.000 The program is summarized in the 12 steps, okay?
00:35:26.000 Four chapters, if you include the doctor's opinion, four chapters are dedicated to step one.
00:35:32.000 So that's like a third of the program.
00:35:34.000 So not only is it saying you are powerless over alcohol and your life's become unmanageable, within these four chapters, it's showing you there is no other way for you to recover other than a spiritual solution.
00:35:48.000 So really, really, if you break it down, it's kind of saying step one and two come together.
00:35:54.000 Like you can't do this on your own power.
00:35:57.000 Now that you've read through these four chapters, you realize how hopeless this condition is.
00:36:03.000 You need a spiritual solution.
00:36:05.000 You're now ready to take step three.
00:36:09.000 And this is like pretty early on in there is a solution.
00:36:12.000 And it goes from this reading into telling you about Roland Hazard, who spent a lot of time under the care of Carl Jung.
00:36:21.000 Obviously, he was a hopeless alcoholic, but he got sober for a year under the care of Carl Jung, right?
00:36:27.000 And there's even a reading there.
00:36:29.000 It says like the thought of relapse was unthinkable.
00:36:32.000 He understood the inner workings of his mind and all its secret trapdoors and all that, right?
00:36:37.000 He couldn't imagine drinking again.
00:36:39.000 Nevertheless, he leaves and within a short time he's drunk and he's been sectioned back in a mental home and he can't understand why.
00:36:47.000 So he goes back to see Carl Jung and he tells him straight, I've never seen anyone recover from this state of mind and body.
00:36:54.000 You're hopeless.
00:36:55.000 You're a chronic alcoholic.
00:36:58.000 And he says to him, the necessity of a spiritual awakening is the only way you can recover.
00:37:04.000 And he says to him, well, how?
00:37:06.000 You must know someone this has happened to.
00:37:08.000 He says, nah, I haven't.
00:37:10.000 They're a rare phenomenon.
00:37:11.000 I've heard of it happening here and there throughout history.
00:37:13.000 They're coming to great spiritual experience that rearranges old thoughts and ideas, old beliefs.
00:37:20.000 And these people live new lives on a spiritual basis.
00:37:24.000 And subsequently, that happens for Roland Hazard.
00:37:27.000 He finds the Oxford group as a result of joining the Oxford group.
00:37:31.000 I think they're looking for people to help, right?
00:37:34.000 So they're actively out on the front foot trying to find drunks.
00:37:38.000 And they're going to courtrooms and places like that.
00:37:41.000 On one of these court hearings, I think it's Ebby Thatcher, who's a friend of Bill Wilson.
00:37:45.000 He's about to get sentenced for something, right?
00:37:48.000 I don't know the exact details of that.
00:37:50.000 We'll have to pull it up.
00:37:52.000 But Roland Hazard steps in, says, don't send him to jail.
00:37:55.000 We can help him.
00:37:56.000 We'll help him.
00:37:57.000 Send him to us.
00:37:58.000 He goes off with them, gets sober.
00:38:01.000 Then he finds Bill Wilson.
00:38:03.000 Tells Bill Wilson that he's found God and all the rest of it.
00:38:06.000 Explains a little bit to him about the program recovery.
00:38:08.000 And then Bill Wilson gets sober.
00:38:10.000 And that's pretty much the beginning of Alcoholics Anonymous from there.
00:38:15.000 All right, so that bit of pre-history is to illustrate that there is a fundamental connection between addiction or in this case, explicitly and definitively, alcohol, dependency and spirituality.
00:38:27.000 That those two things are inextricable, inseparable, that you can't talk about addiction separate from spirit.
00:38:36.000 I suppose in a way that's kind of obvious because it's your inner state that you're trying to, anyone who drinks, even people that drink recreationally, they're doing it to feel a certain feeling.
00:38:47.000 And of course, one of the more sort of prosaic statements in that big book is people drink because they like the effect.
00:38:54.000 They like the effect.
00:38:55.000 So like anyone who's just having a pint or a couple of shots likes the effect.
00:38:59.000 That's why they're doing it.
00:39:00.000 Well, what is that effect?
00:39:01.000 It's altering your state.
00:39:03.000 And people that have a tendency to dependency just will do it all the time to the point of destruction and won't notice when the process has become warped, won't be able to intervene and recognize, oh my God, this has gone crazy.
00:39:16.000 All right.
00:39:17.000 Okay.
00:39:17.000 Hit us with a reading then, Joe.
00:39:19.000 Yeah.
00:39:21.000 If you're seriously alcoholic as we were, we believe there is no middle of the road solution.
00:39:26.000 We were in a position where life has become impossible.
00:39:30.000 And if we passed into the region from which there is no return through human aid, we had but two alternatives.
00:39:38.000 One was to go on to the bitter end, blotting out the consciousness of our intolerable situation as best we could.
00:39:46.000 And the other to accept spiritual help.
00:39:51.000 I like that blotting out there, Joe, blotting out, because I feel that even when we looked at that mouse experiment a little while ago, a couple of shows back, or maybe it was the last show, the sense I get is that of a whole culture blotting out its awareness of reality.
00:40:09.000 Not just obviously through substance and consuming orally, but just a constant process of consuming information.
00:40:18.000 How often are you alone with God?
00:40:20.000 How often are you just in nature?
00:40:23.000 How often do you stop and have no interface at all?
00:40:27.000 Not a screen, nothing.
00:40:29.000 Prayer, meditation.
00:40:32.000 I think for a lot of people, it might be never.
00:40:35.000 Look, that job of spirit, of being connected to spirit has been replaced by some kind of substance use.
00:40:41.000 Is that the end of the reading or is there more?
00:40:44.000 That's the end of that reading.
00:40:45.000 Then you turn over the page and it starts talking about the story I was just saying there, Roland Hazard, a certain American businessman.
00:40:55.000 There's also a reference at the bottom.
00:40:57.000 It says fully explained appendix two.
00:40:59.000 So I'll have a little look and see what it says at the appendix at the back.
00:41:03.000 Oh yeah, it talks about the types of spiritual experience that are available.
00:41:07.000 Sort of sudden epiphanies or theophanies, encounters with God, urgent and immediate, such as anyone who's not a fae with spirituality will regard as necessary even to qualify.
00:41:20.000 That you want, you know, almost C.S. Lewis's definition, when the train left Paddington station, I wasn't a Christian.
00:41:28.000 When I arrived, I was Christian.
00:41:30.000 I'd accepted Christ.
00:41:31.000 A spiritual conversion has taken place.
00:41:34.000 A very likely way that those conversions, whether it's from drugs and alcohol to abstinence or from believing that the world can provide you with solutions to not believing that anymore, believing only God can save you, is crisis.
00:41:50.000 The reason I think that the reason that I'm interested in 12-step ideology beyond my own requirement for it is because I think it's a brilliant way of recognizing that all of us have to make some powerful transformation and some powerful transition from dependency on things to dependency on God.
00:42:12.000 And one of the things I'm experiencing a lot lately is I'm trying to stay in, I'm trying to notice when my self-will kicks in.
00:42:22.000 I'm trying to notice it.
00:42:24.000 I'm trying to observe what the conditions are when I go, I'm going to make these decisions.
00:42:28.000 I'm going to take this course of action.
00:42:31.000 And the program provides a lot of checks for that.
00:42:34.000 One, lateral community.
00:42:36.000 See, in a normal church, they'd say relationships of accountability, where before I do anything, I check.
00:42:42.000 I check, where's this coming from?
00:42:44.000 There's a way of doing it, and it talks about it later in the book that is more sort of spiritual and internal, where it says, you know, you will get used to relying on your instincts and intuitions, but be careful because you'll pay for it in all sorts of crazy mistakes early on, like believing that your instincts.
00:42:57.000 Now, so me, when I'm making decisions now about pretty much anything, I'm trying to go in myself and go, where's this coming from?
00:43:05.000 And God, is this what you want?
00:43:07.000 Is this what you want, God?
00:43:09.000 Is this what you want for me?
00:43:10.000 Because otherwise, I'm worshiping me.
00:43:13.000 It's me that's making those decisions.
00:43:15.000 And as Chesterton famously said in response to the Times' inquiry in 1914 when he was still alive, what is the problem with the world?
00:43:27.000 Chesterton responded, Dear Times, you asked what was the problem of the world.
00:43:31.000 I am yours, GK Chesterton.
00:43:34.000 That really the problems all begin with you.
00:43:37.000 And what alcohol and alcoholism and addiction do is they make it kind of clear that if you don't take this action and become abstinent, your life is not going to change.
00:43:47.000 And most people can grasp that idea.
00:43:49.000 It's harder when it's not just one compound, but when it is your compounded sense of self and your whole life is the problem.
00:43:57.000 This is the way I regard my family.
00:43:58.000 This is the way I regard my work.
00:43:59.000 This is the way I treat people.
00:44:01.000 This is what I believe.
00:44:02.000 This is what is triggered if someone says this or if this happens or if I'm tired or all of that.
00:44:06.000 To detach from all of it requires a kind of personal resurrection and a personal kind of death.
00:44:12.000 And where I always end up now, and I suppose it's understandable because I've not taken drugs or had a drink for 23 years, is how do I continue to apply these ideas now when it's not going to be by God's eternal grace, I'm going to just go get drunk.
00:44:27.000 It's going to be I'm going to make a decision.
00:44:29.000 And I think for me now, I need to be sort of immersed in continual community.
00:44:35.000 Like that I have to straight away watch as like for me is speed is probably the observable thing.
00:44:41.000 Like I start to speed up.
00:44:43.000 I become impatient.
00:44:44.000 So my defect of character in a six and seven way that tells me where I most easily fall into self and therefore I'm vulnerable to Satan is impatience.
00:44:54.000 I start to think this is taking too long.
00:44:56.000 Hurry up.
00:44:57.000 And like I'm always looking for a way where I can take control.
00:45:00.000 Drive-ins and obvious example.
00:45:02.000 I'm just going to turn right.
00:45:03.000 I can just drive around this person.
00:45:04.000 I do stuff like that all the time.
00:45:06.000 I drive around people that are waiting for things that I consider to be imaginary.
00:45:10.000 And the part of it that I like, I like is I've not accepted the world's rules.
00:45:15.000 I've not accepted that.
00:45:16.000 I don't agree with it.
00:45:17.000 I believe in, but I do, I have to abide by God's rules.
00:45:22.000 And the problem is, is different people disagree about where God's dominion and man's dominion ends.
00:45:28.000 I like some of that about you, I'll be honest.
00:45:30.000 Like where you just ignore a red light and just take off.
00:45:34.000 And I think what's hard though, and I relate to a lot of that, is it's hard when you're an entrepreneur.
00:45:44.000 It's hard when you own your own business, when you're your own boss in this world.
00:45:49.000 It's hard to step.
00:45:51.000 And I mean, it just takes, for me, that active time in the morning, especially in the morning with me, before I even start going, so that I'm not running on self-will.
00:46:04.000 You mentioned 86 to 88.
00:46:06.000 It talks about God consciousness and it becomes almost a sixth sense to us.
00:46:10.000 And that we, it says we can exercise our willpower along these lines.
00:46:16.000 It's the proper use of the will.
00:46:18.000 Yes, I like having instruction on the proper use of the will.
00:46:21.000 That's 86 to 88.
00:46:24.000 Joe, you find that section like where it says that, but not the whole thing, but just the bit where it sort of talks about what starts as the occasional hunch becomes a reliable way of living.
00:46:36.000 I think it's top of 87.
00:46:38.000 Top of 87.
00:46:39.000 What used to be the hunch or the occasional inspiration gradually becomes a working part of the mind.
00:46:45.000 Being still inexperienced and having just made conscious contact with God, it is not probable that we are going to be inspired at all times.
00:46:53.000 We might pay for this presumption in all sorts of absurd actions and ideas.
00:46:57.000 Nevertheless, we find that our thinking will, as time passes, be more and more on the plane of inspiration.
00:47:04.000 We come to rely upon it.
00:47:06.000 Yeah, getting on that plane of inspiration is the goal.
00:47:10.000 And absurd actions is sort of something, you know, when I think about it, Jake, how often in my life I might just be in some mad scenario because I've gone, yeah, because of a total lack of trust in the world and a total lack of trust in self and an inability to tell the difference between that's divine.
00:47:30.000 I'm being divinely directed to do this.
00:47:32.000 Like there's been loads of times in my life where it's like I felt you're being guided.
00:47:36.000 Follow it.
00:47:36.000 Go with the spontaneity.
00:47:37.000 Trust the Lord.
00:47:38.000 And it's led to amazing things.
00:47:39.000 But also it has led to, as it said in that passage, absurd situations and messed up relationships and chaos of like, because me just going, yeah, this is the right thing to do.
00:47:50.000 Like it becomes, I think, it can become a sort of superstition if you're not careful.
00:47:55.000 Yeah, there is a filter.
00:47:56.000 We talk about it all the time, like the fruits of the spirit, the things that come from it.
00:48:00.000 Like, yeah, there's going to be unknown, but you will know that's at least godly characteristics that flow from it.
00:48:07.000 You know, that it's not going to be anti-God, what he leads you to do.
00:48:11.000 Yes.
00:48:12.000 And I think the hard part is, for you, is that you've built this thing on you because that's your Russell Brand.
00:48:20.000 And that's, you know, sometimes you feel like who else can you lean on?
00:48:25.000 And that's what Dave's talking about with being an entrepreneur.
00:48:28.000 But I think you have to have good support people around you because the reality is it's not just an individual game.
00:48:34.000 If it was just an individual game, you would do everything and you would have to do everything.
00:48:39.000 And you can go get lost in the woods and then come do a video.
00:48:42.000 You would have to do everything.
00:48:43.000 But that's not what this is.
00:48:45.000 So even in a setting like this, Dave's got insight.
00:48:49.000 Joe has insight.
00:48:51.000 You can lean on those guys.
00:48:53.000 And it doesn't have to all come from you.
00:48:55.000 And I think that's freeing.
00:48:57.000 Yeah.
00:48:58.000 And also that in the brokenness, like that when you own your brokenness, it I think facilitates what you are calling and are called the fruits of the spirit mentality.
00:49:09.000 One of the ways of checking, oh, am I in the flow of God now is, well, are you being an asshole?
00:49:16.000 Because like if you are, you probably aren't.
00:49:19.000 Like if it doesn't feel like you are being beautiful and gracious, you know, like it's not always going to be Mary Martha.
00:49:27.000 It's not always going to be, listen, while you think it's double important to be fussing in the kitchen and all that, it's not.
00:49:33.000 Get with Christ.
00:49:34.000 Sit at the feet of Christ and listen and hear.
00:49:37.000 And I suppose the challenge is, is because we are living in this sort of post-structuralist and dismantling time where statues are being pulled down, where history is being rewritten, where whole genders and races are being condemned in an attempt to redress assumed, the assumed reverse, to have something you can say, no, this I rely on.
00:49:58.000 This is true.
00:49:59.000 This is Christ.
00:50:01.000 This is what goodness is.
00:50:02.000 That's what I will, that I will not do.
00:50:05.000 And, you know, this has been very helpful for me reading this book, Faith and Reason, because in it, the Southern Baptist academic Andrew Lawrence, using cultural events, makes claims for universal good in the same way any apologist does, in the same way that C.S. Lewis does, in the same way that C.S. Lewis says that we all know good and bad.
00:50:27.000 And he illustrates it with like betrayal and traitors.
00:50:31.000 Even though, in a military situation, if intel can be achieved from a spy or a traitor, everyone knows what that person's that person's a rat.
00:50:41.000 Everyone knows what that is.
00:50:42.000 Everyone knows that's not a cool thing that's going on.
00:50:45.000 And my man there said, only I think it's important, Andrew Lawrence, in this book about faith and reason, that when the culture tells you, becomes God, when the culture says we will decide what's right and what's wrong.
00:50:56.000 And it note for one thing how it changes all the time, that it's not consistent.
00:51:00.000 It's no consistency in one minute, this is our cherished set of ideals.
00:51:05.000 Oh, now this is our cherished set of ideals.
00:51:07.000 And notice how often in the political space people switch up who believes what.
00:51:11.000 Hold on, aren't you the free speech ones?
00:51:12.000 No, we're the free speech ones.
00:51:13.000 Oh, aren't you the ones that believe in individual bodily autonomy?
00:51:17.000 No, we're the ones that believe in individual bodily autonomy because there's no persistent or consistent principle.
00:51:22.000 There's just materialism and control at work there.
00:51:26.000 He uses the sort of example of this like defining recent moment in our culture when Elliot Page went on Oprah Wimfrey to declare their sex change.
00:51:36.000 That Oprah Wimphrey's default position is one that the culture cedes to quite frequently.
00:51:43.000 That you in yourself must become yourself.
00:51:48.000 You know who you are, and you must become who you are.
00:51:50.000 And all of us must, Elliot Page, you know, you were Ellen Page, now be Elliot Page.
00:51:55.000 And from a compassionate perspective, I obviously anyone will be sympathetic about not pretending to be someone that you're not, masklessness.
00:52:04.000 But this idea that who you are is fundamentally and essentially good and should be pursued at all costs is actually a satanic idea, a Luciferian idea, a false light idea.
00:52:15.000 The false light of self must not be allowed to bleach out the true light of Christ.
00:52:21.000 Because if the greatest expression of yourself and the fullest expression of yourself was pedophilia or murder or rape, everyone knows you're not meant to do that.
00:52:29.000 Oprah Wimphrey knows you're not meant to do that.
00:52:32.000 Everyone knows you're not meant to do that.
00:52:33.000 So now we know there's a line.
00:52:35.000 Now we have to agree where the line should be drawn.
00:52:37.000 Is it going to be by a human?
00:52:39.000 No, because if it's a human, you're going to end up in quarrels and arguments and conflict.
00:52:44.000 So when it says here that through the crisis of alcoholism, we will eventually over time if we practice the program and remain abstinent and take from the see how Indiana Jones moves that stone off the thing and like puts the bag of sand there.
00:53:01.000 If you take from the driving seat of your reality self and replace it with God, you are going to become able to know instinctively how to behave in different situations.
00:53:13.000 But there is still in the same way that there are the fruits of the spirit, there are the challenges of the flesh.
00:53:17.000 In 12-step lit, it's the promises are you will become all these things if you practice the program.
00:53:24.000 And the bedevilments are this is what you are when you're in your disease.
00:53:27.000 You're selfish.
00:53:28.000 You're not capable of being any use to anybody.
00:53:31.000 Like these two pairs live together.
00:53:33.000 And I feel that the spirits are the fruits of the spirit and sin are similar.
00:53:39.000 And what I notice in myself is that I'm all of these things.
00:53:43.000 At any point, I could drift into anything.
00:53:45.000 So I suppose, yeah, the more I submit, the better it is.
00:53:50.000 The less like, yeah, like John early John, like John the Baptist, he must become greater and I must become lesser.
00:53:57.000 The more I'm living in my rustleness, the more at risk we all are.
00:54:02.000 Joe, do you have anything to add there, my dear friend?
00:54:05.000 No, I think it's interesting that you mentioned the sort of text step 10 protocol.
00:54:11.000 Like watch for fear, resentment, and selfishness.
00:54:14.000 Like when these crop up, ask God to remove them at once.
00:54:16.000 That's like a clear indicator, innit?
00:54:18.000 That you sort of cut off from the spirit.
00:54:21.000 And it's just such a practical way to live.
00:54:23.000 Like you can recognize when you're falling into self, take action, and then it sort of clears your path for connection.
00:54:29.000 It's not always easy, is it?
00:54:31.000 It's not always easy.
00:54:32.000 And like these instructions here for like how to start your day.
00:54:36.000 But man, you've got to restart your day from time to time in recovery, I've found.
00:54:40.000 Do the start of your day instructions, Joe.
00:54:42.000 Read them out.
00:54:44.000 So this is on awakening.
00:54:46.000 So that was a little bit we just had there, top of 87, but it begins here.
00:54:50.000 Look, on awakening, let's think about the 24 hours ahead.
00:54:54.000 We consider our plans for the day.
00:54:56.000 Before we begin, we ask God to direct our thinking, especially asking that it be divorced from self-pity, dishonest or self-seeking motives.
00:55:05.000 Under these conditions, we can employ our mental faculties with assurance.
00:55:10.000 For after all, God gave us brains to use.
00:55:13.000 I thought life will be placed on a much higher plane when our thinking is cleared of wrong motives.
00:55:18.000 In thinking about our day ahead, we may face indecision.
00:55:22.000 We may not be able to determine which course to take.
00:55:25.000 Here we ask God for inspiration, an intuitive thought or decision.
00:55:29.000 We relax and take it easy.
00:55:31.000 We don't struggle.
00:55:33.000 We are often surprised how the right answer comes after we have tried this for a while.
00:55:37.000 Then it rolls over the bit we were just talking about.
00:55:40.000 I like that it begins with on awakening.
00:55:43.000 And someone said to me once in AA, one of the things that's been good that's great about going to 12-step groups is like it starts off with just, oh, I can't drink, I can't drink, I can't take drugs, can't take drugs.
00:55:53.000 And then you start to encounter people that are incredibly wise, like all over the world, whose job is nothing to do with how wise they are.
00:56:00.000 They're just some bloke or some woman who, like, I've had it happen around here.
00:56:04.000 Someone just give me incredible insights.
00:56:06.000 Like, and it happened the whole time I've been in recovery because they're people that are forced to live outside of the world.
00:56:11.000 They're forced to live their life upon spiritual lines.
00:56:15.000 And one of them around there said to me that on that reading begins with, upon awakening, it says in it, like the first words of it, Joe.
00:56:22.000 He said, that might not mean in the morning.
00:56:24.000 That might not mean in the morning.
00:56:26.000 It might mean you awaken.
00:56:28.000 As you awaken to, oh, wow, I'm living in a different reality now.
00:56:34.000 You'll be cool as long as your motives are divorced from self-pity.
00:56:38.000 It's very beautiful.
00:56:39.000 And it reminds me of this verse from scripture that I've been thinking about a lot from John's Gospel, chapter 3.
00:56:47.000 After Christ has spoken to Nicodemus in his nocturnal soiree with a sadducee, an informed student of the law, we have this encounter where John the Baptist's disciples sort of almost try and goad him a little bit, Joe.
00:57:03.000 Like, I see everyone's off with this new guy.
00:57:06.000 And John the Baptist says, the bride belongs to the bridegroom.
00:57:13.000 The friend who attends the bridegroom waits and listens for him and is full of joy when he hears the bridegroom's voice.
00:57:22.000 That joy is mine.
00:57:25.000 And it is now complete.
00:57:28.000 He must become greater.
00:57:30.000 I must become less.
00:57:33.000 John the Baptist, like it may see with the joyful mysteries, I've always wondered, like the first mystery is Gabriel telling Mary, get ready.
00:57:48.000 And the next one is she goes to visit her cousin and the baby jumps in Elizabeth's belly.
00:57:55.000 And I've always thought, how's that made it all the way to the rosary this moment?
00:58:01.000 And I can't claim to understand it, but I feel like it must be to do with the nascent in utero John knows then.
00:58:09.000 He knows even before he's born that the Messiah is coming, that his cousin is the Messiah, that he's the one that has to make straight the ways.
00:58:18.000 And I like that what it comes down to is as, as always, a death of self.
00:58:26.000 That even John, like even John, who's, you know, by Christ reckoning the greatest prophet that ever lived, says, I must become less.
00:58:35.000 He must become greater.
00:58:38.000 And that wisdom is parroted throughout that 12-step thing.
00:58:43.000 That what we eventually want to do is like, you know, we want a good antidote to whenever we have a resentment at some point in the past, we usually find we've made a decision based on self that's put us in a position to be hurt.
00:58:55.000 Like every time, what have you done?
00:58:58.000 Why is this happening?
00:58:59.000 Is this happening to you because of a corrupt and evil world or because of exploitative people?
00:59:03.000 Or did you make some decision at some point, Russell, because you wanted something for yourself?
00:59:09.000 Even sometimes when it's like when my kids are crying, actually I'm like, shut up.
00:59:15.000 Like, you know, I don't want, it's not even their problem I'm trying to solve.
00:59:18.000 It's mine.
00:59:19.000 I'm trying to solve my problem of kids crying.
00:59:23.000 Almost always.
00:59:23.000 Almost always.
00:59:25.000 It's whatever's going on with me is getting elevated.
00:59:28.000 Whatever's happening externally is just elevating something that is already happening in me internally.
00:59:34.000 Yes.
00:59:35.000 Yeah, I think that's where, but that's where you grow in that God consciousness.
00:59:39.000 So I've the last, God, several months, I've been going back and I've almost consistently done 86 through 88 in the morning, which is like foundational for me.
00:59:51.000 And like sitting down, taking that time, going, okay, the first couple of things it says is on awakening, we think about the 24 hours ahead.
01:00:00.000 So think.
01:00:02.000 Then it says we consider and then we ask.
01:00:05.000 And so it's like, we think, we consider and ask.
01:00:09.000 Those are three things that I usually don't do before acting.
01:00:12.000 I'm like, I act and then I consider it and think about what happened afterwards.
01:00:17.000 It's like, when I took the positional change in step three, I said, you're going to be the director.
01:00:23.000 So the very first thing you ask him in 86 is to direct my thinking.
01:00:29.000 And so when I'm asking him to direct my thinking, that's where I'm considering my plans for the day.
01:00:37.000 Like his thinking, I want him to interrupt my day with stuff that he would have me be because I want the life that he wants me to have versus what I think I need, which is tough.
01:00:53.000 I think it's super tough with being entrepreneurial.
01:00:58.000 Like, and especially in your case, because, yes, we do have the community part, but in your case, like, I mean, it would be even more difficult.
01:01:09.000 Like, I already struggle with trusting people or having anyone trying to control me.
01:01:14.000 Like, I don't necessarily want to control anyone else, but don't try and control me.
01:01:19.000 And for you, it's like, especially your experience in Hollywood and stuff, you had people, I mean, everyone.
01:01:28.000 That's the culture.
01:01:29.000 It's just using, just using you.
01:01:32.000 And so did not have your best interest in mind at all.
01:01:36.000 Always full of shit.
01:01:37.000 There's always some alternative motive.
01:01:39.000 And so I think it takes a while building up genuine friendships and recovery that you can trust.
01:01:46.000 That if Joe comes to me and says something, calls me out on something, that I know that I can trust him, that it's really for my good.
01:01:56.000 And it's not for him in some sort of way or to, you know, that he doesn't have some alternative motive for it, which to me has been, that's been really helpful.
01:02:06.000 When you're trying to grow in like a God consciousness, I don't think, I mean a big part of it is that listening to God throughout the day and not being blocked off with resentments and stuff like that.
01:02:20.000 But I think a lot of that, I mean, I get a lot through my good friends that tell me things through 10-stepping stuff and even just good friends just sharing with me.
01:02:33.000 And I think I think I understand some of that.
01:02:37.000 I think you probably understand that to a whole other degree just because of your background and experience.
01:02:44.000 I wonder.
01:02:45.000 I can't tell how it's different.
01:02:46.000 All I know is that it's non-negotiable.
01:02:48.000 There has to be a state of continual surrender and that the game becomes how quickly can I spot that I'm starting to go into it.
01:02:59.000 And it's really, it's happened.
01:03:01.000 See, alcohol and drugs is baby steps because it's so obvious.
01:03:05.000 If you drink or take drugs, it's so obvious.
01:03:08.000 Then the next one will be something like sex.
01:03:10.000 And then it's obvious if you're having promiscuous encounters or it's obvious if you're looking at pornography.
01:03:16.000 It's less obvious if you're having sexual thoughts about people.
01:03:22.000 And when what I've started to notice about that is the self-regulation of sexual thoughts is like just transformed.
01:03:30.000 It's transformed like that.
01:03:31.000 If I, in my field of vision, if attractive woman, I've spent so long and I think you're culturally, geometrically almost predisposed to sort of notice attractive woman, like it's like a scan.
01:03:45.000 And I've noticed that there's some secondary thing now.
01:03:48.000 It's like, no, no.
01:03:50.000 And then alone in my mind, if I wake in the night, no.
01:03:54.000 And now I'm starting to notice with something that's even subtler than that because it's, it's like you said, the thing's already in you.
01:04:01.000 That's what you said.
01:04:02.000 It's already in you.
01:04:03.000 And some stimulant or provocative event or situation will bring out what's already in you.
01:04:08.000 Think, Joe, rage, think self-pity, whatever.
01:04:12.000 You know, like it's waiting to come out.
01:04:14.000 And then it's sort of like some sort of drag of reality goes like that, nicks it.
01:04:19.000 And ah, right, this is it.
01:04:20.000 It's coming out now.
01:04:21.000 Could be a nice thing, could be a bad thing.
01:04:23.000 I don't know.
01:04:24.000 You know, like it says in, you know, in the director bit, he'll have a variety of traits that get expressed.
01:04:31.000 But what I've started to see now is even with, as I start to become, I've become more observant of, oh, you're tired.
01:04:37.000 You're tired.
01:04:38.000 Just calm down.
01:04:39.000 Don't deal with tiredness by speeding up.
01:04:42.000 Don't do that.
01:04:43.000 Just be tired, relax, be peaceful.
01:04:47.000 There's nothing to get.
01:04:48.000 There is nothing to get.
01:04:49.000 It's already over.
01:04:50.000 That doesn't mean we're not going to do things.
01:04:52.000 We are going to do things.
01:04:53.000 We're going to do a lot of things.
01:04:54.000 This bit is a nascent period, a period of incubation and reflection and discovery and learning that will include podcasts where we just sit around and sort of talk quite gently.
01:05:05.000 Because the next bit, I've got a feeling is going to involve the implementation of direct democracies, powerful evangelism, frontline cultural warfare, spiritual warfare, exhausting, potent stuff if it's his will.
01:05:19.000 And if it's not his will, if his will is go live in a shed somewhere, I'm starting to find that idea quite attractive.
01:05:25.000 Actually, go and live in a shed somewhere, grow vegetables, you know, hunt stuff.
01:05:29.000 I'll be cool with that as well.
01:05:31.000 So I'm good with either outcome.
01:05:34.000 And so thank you for walking this path and having these conversations.
01:05:38.000 Joe and Massey and beloved Dave and my dear brother Jake.
01:05:43.000 That's all we're going to do today.
01:05:45.000 It's not all we have time for.
01:05:46.000 It could go on forever, but we're not going to.
01:05:48.000 People outside.
01:05:50.000 I'm going to take a week off and go to the United Kingdom to go to a preliminary hearing for the trials that I'm undertaking later on this year.
01:05:59.000 So I'm going to take a week off.
01:06:00.000 We'll be back the following week.
01:06:01.000 Of course, we'll be posting content all over Rumble and all over everywhere, of course.
01:06:05.000 It's the way the game is these days.
01:06:07.000 But we won't be doing live shows next week.
01:06:08.000 We'll be back the following week, not with more of the same, but with more of the different.
01:06:12.000 If you want to come and get tickets to come see me in Florida in the Panhandle, do.
01:06:16.000 There's a link in the description.
01:06:17.000 Come and see that.