Stay Free - Russel Brand - Stay Free with Russell Brand #005 - What Is A Fascist And Who Decides?

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00:11:47.000 We're going to be talking to Wim Hof, a hero of mine, a roaring modern-day shaman, a man who accesses the great power that lies beneath order, for where else but there will change come from?

00:12:00.000 If you can't get change from within the system, you're going to have to get change from outside of the system.

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00:12:12.000 On today's show, we're asking the question, are some fascists okay?

00:12:17.000 Or are all these terms manufactured for political gain?

00:12:21.000 That's because Hillary Clinton, of course, recently called Donald Trump supporters fascists because of their little one-finger salute there, and of course because of some of the nationalism that's believed to be part of Trump's rhetoric and ideology.

00:12:33.000 Let me know in the comments, let me know in the chat what you think about that.

00:12:36.000 I know a load of you love Trump, I know a load of you don't love Trump, but I'll tell you what I know more than anything is that you are all Welcome here, because I believe that what unites us is more significant than what separates us, and if we can overcome the cultural collisions that they're trying to create, we can create a movement powerful enough to challenge the establishment.

00:12:56.000 So, Hillary there was calling Trump supporters a fascist.

00:12:59.000 We're going to be looking into that.

00:13:01.000 in our item, here's the news, no here's the effing news.

00:13:05.000 While also she said it was good that Giorgia Maloney had become, or potentially is

00:13:09.000 becoming president of Italy, although she is a bit fascist. So these terms

00:13:14.000 fascist, Nazi, what do we mean by them? Is there anyone in the world

00:13:18.000 that thinks that the Nazi party were anything other than an abomination, that

00:13:22.000 the genocide was wrong? I'm sure that there aren't. Let me know in the chat, let me know in

00:13:27.000 the comments.

00:13:28.000 For me, what I'm interested in asking you, and what I'm interested in hearing from

00:13:32.000 you, are some fascists okay?

00:13:33.000 Are all these terms manufactured for political gain?

00:13:38.000 What is a fascist, essentially, is what I'm asking you.

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00:14:19.000 Now, you may be tired of the mainstream.

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00:14:33.000 It's time now for our fantastic item.

00:14:35.000 Here's the news.

00:14:36.000 No, here's the effing news. 1.00

00:14:41.000 Here's the fucking news! 1.00

00:14:44.000 Hillary Clinton has called Trump supporters Nazis, but has declared that she admires that new Italian leader who the left say is a fascist. 1.00

00:14:52.000 And also though, aren't there Nazis fighting for the Ukraine?

00:14:56.000 So we ask, what is a fascist?

00:14:58.000 And is it okay to like some fascists?

00:15:00.000 Or is fascist just a convenient term to bring down people you don't agree with?

00:15:07.000 So, Hillary Clinton has compared Trump supporters to Nazis, because of the finger bob salute.

00:15:12.000 But, you know there are Nazis, don't you?

00:15:14.000 Fighting out of the Ukraine.

00:15:16.000 And also, she has praised new female Prime Minister of Italy, Giorgia Maloney, which sounds like a child's made-up name for an Italian person.

00:15:25.000 Hey, Giorgia Maloney, President of Italia! 0.88

00:15:29.000 praised her for being a woman but being a fascist. 0.72

00:15:32.000 So what is it then? 0.95

00:15:33.000 The left says she's a fascist.

00:15:34.000 I'm not saying she's a fascist.

00:15:35.000 And in fact, we're not going to cover that in this video.

00:15:35.000 I don't know.

00:15:37.000 What we're covering in this video is who gets called a fascist, why and when?

00:15:42.000 Because it's complicated, isn't it? 0.96

00:15:43.000 Trump's supporters are fascists. 0.92

00:15:44.000 They're right in your country. 0.98

00:15:45.000 Ukrainian soldiers that literally say, I'm a Nazi on tattoos on their body can go Disney World and get like awards off Jon Stewart. 0.80

00:15:52.000 And also Maloney, she's praised for being a woman, even though she's also a fascist. 0.72

00:15:56.000 So what is the problem with fascism?

00:15:58.000 Fascism is a serious thing.

00:16:00.000 I'm anti-fascist.

00:16:01.000 The fact is, is that the political ideology we need to be concerned about is neoliberalism, which I would define loosely as the pose of social liberalism.

00:16:11.000 Hey, you can be free, be who you want to be, do what you want, the individual is important.

00:16:15.000 Meanwhile, allowing economic power to carry on unchecked.

00:16:19.000 Allowing it to cross borders, evade taxation, and organizing the state to facilitate the interests of corporations.

00:16:27.000 All the while going, oh, we care about this vulnerable person, we care about that vulnerable person.

00:16:31.000 That's what I think neoliberalism is.

00:16:33.000 We live in a neoliberalist world, and I'm a neoliberalist girl.

00:16:36.000 Former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has slammed the hand gestures made by supporters of Donald Trump at his Ohio rally comparing them to Nazis.

00:16:46.000 Now look, Nazis are definitely bad, but don't you think that what they're probably doing is going, ah, see, that's the sort of thing a Nazi would do, and therefore we can disparage them rather than having a genuine concern.

00:16:59.000 Oh no! 0.98

00:17:00.000 They're Nazis!

00:17:00.000 No!

00:17:01.000 They're actual Nazis!

00:17:02.000 There are families where there are Trump supporters and Democrats. 0.87

00:17:05.000 The same family!

00:17:06.000 We've all got, like, once you say someone's a Nazi, do you know what you're saying?

00:17:09.000 We don't have to deal with you.

00:17:10.000 We don't have to talk to you.

00:17:11.000 You're out.

00:17:11.000 You're out of the conversation.

00:17:13.000 Simon says, Nazi, you're out. 0.73

00:17:15.000 We don't have to talk to you no more.

00:17:17.000 But if Trump's supporters are so bad, why, as we've told you before on this channel, why are the Democrats funding MAGA candidates in primaries in order that, you know, the reason is, oh, if we fund this sort of MAGA candidate, then our Democrat candidate will eventually face a lame duck candidate and more Democrats will win.

00:17:35.000 But if you truly believe these are Nazis, you wouldn't take the risk, would you?

00:17:38.000 Particularly as Hillary initially supported measures that would highlight Trump's campaign because they thought, oh, this guy, he's never going to win anything. 0.85

00:17:44.000 What I'm saying is, is if you're serious about fascism and you're serious about Nazis, don't spend penny one on supporting their campaigns.

00:17:51.000 That's a pretty serious allegation.

00:17:54.000 Millions of millions and millions of people died is a really heavy thing to call someone.

00:17:59.000 Don't just say because they've done something funny with their finger.

00:18:01.000 Don't say if you've got Boobies! 1.00

00:18:03.000 It's okay to be a Nazi. 0.97

00:18:05.000 If you're a Nazi, that is not good.

00:18:07.000 And we are dealing with complexity, because obviously, we're pro-Ukraine in their fight against Russia, and that fight includes, like it or lump it, Nazis! 0.69

00:18:16.000 Mrs. Clinton, who was speaking at the Texas Tribune Festival in Austin, said her reaction to the index finger salute seen at the rally was similar to how she used to feel about Nazis, adding, what's going on?

00:18:27.000 I used to feel that about Nazis! 0.92

00:18:29.000 I used to see that, and I'd think, oh, I don't like that, and then I'd see that, oh!

00:18:33.000 Been here before?

00:18:34.000 I mean, yeah, they've got rid of these three, but it's still not good, is it?

00:18:38.000 Also, the problem with the Nazis, that wasn't the problem with the Nazis, was it?

00:18:41.000 If anything, that was a side effect, or just like, that was a badge of honour for the Nazis. 0.92

00:18:45.000 If they'd just done that, and none of the other stuff, the murders, the evangelism, the homicides and the genocides... Oh, and then I did that!

00:18:53.000 I mean, that's...

00:18:54.000 Not bad, I don't think.

00:18:55.000 Other than that, even less bad.

00:18:57.000 Like, don't muddle it all up.

00:18:59.000 Nazism is, in my opinion, it's creating a group of others, and then enacting a genocide against that other group, in order to facilitate the advancement of a whole set of other goals. 0.79

00:19:11.000 The bit about doing that, you know, take it or leave it.

00:19:13.000 But, let's see, because, right, I'm going to warn you now, we're going to watch this, but watch out, because it could make you go a bit Nazi.

00:19:19.000 Look, I mean, I'm feeling a bit Nazi-er, even, oh, but yeah.

00:19:22.000 That's better.

00:19:22.000 Hillary Clinton once again taking aim at former President Trump and his supporters, this time comparing his Ohio rally to a Nazi rally.

00:19:30.000 I bet what it was is he says, okay everyone hold a finger in the air and just think of one person you love.

00:19:35.000 If he said it like that it would have been some sort of rhetorical device.

00:19:38.000 It wouldn't have been, let's be a bit Nazi but only one-fifth as Nazi as we could be. 0.72

00:19:44.000 I remember as a young student, you know, trying to figure out, how did people get basically drawn in by Hitler?

00:19:55.000 Here's a comparison you might want to make about Nazi Germany, that those figures rose out of social economic crises induced by a globalist agenda.

00:20:03.000 That's what brought that about.

00:20:04.000 Hyperinflation?

00:20:06.000 Anybody?

00:20:07.000 Wars in Europe?

00:20:09.000 Neoliberalism is a political and economic agenda that advantages elites, centralizes financial and indeed political power, and leads to the rise of far-right, far-left, because Stalin was no Great Shakes, nor was Mao, figure also.

00:20:23.000 So if you want to prevent extremism, what you have to have is a functional democracy.

00:20:28.000 Not a democracy where you highlight Trump in order to ensure that your own party, in this case the Democrat Party, can neglect ordinary blue-collar Americans of all hues, colours and persuasions.

00:20:39.000 In fact, when a figure like Bernie Sanders, who I know some of you don't like and some of you do, rises up crushing that dude, because he was saying things like, control the banks, have a proper representative democracy, whether you like Bernie Sanders or not.

00:20:50.000 That's what he was saying.

00:20:51.000 He was a leftist populist figure who I'm sure isn't perfect because he's operating within that system.

00:20:56.000 But what I will tell you is that Hillary Clinton and her acolytes and her hegemonist Democrat pals crushed that dude, highlighted Trump, because she wanted to be the president.

00:21:06.000 You saw the rally in Ohio the other night.

00:21:09.000 Trump is there ranting and raving for more than an hour.

00:21:14.000 More than an hour?

00:21:15.000 It's during a rally.

00:21:16.000 It's a free country.

00:21:18.000 45 minutes is enough for a rally.

00:21:18.000 Oh, God.

00:21:20.000 I'd be fainting and passing out after about half an hour.

00:21:23.000 Yeah, that's part of the problem, mate.

00:21:24.000 And you have these rows of young men.

00:21:28.000 Poo. Poo. Young man, sweaty pits, dangle dangle ding dongs, stinky arms up in the air. That's all it takes.

00:21:36.000 I think using the spectre of 20th century fascism in order to avoid confronting the inefficiency of contemporary neoliberalism

00:21:44.000 is the real crime here.

00:21:46.000 If you want people not to be drawn to what you regard as extremism, then present alternatives and options instead of Increasing the social tensions, exacerbating existing cultural conflicts, pretending that Trump is worse than he is.

00:22:02.000 Anybody that knows anybody knows there's people that like Donald Trump that are alright.

00:22:06.000 It's not the same as saying, I think that you should execute people on the basis of their religion or a pre-existing template of what a human being should be.

00:22:15.000 It's not the same thing.

00:22:16.000 Whether you like Donald Trump or don't like Donald Trump, comparing him to a Nazi, is illegitimate, it's wrong, and it's a way of avoiding your own political shortcomings.

00:22:25.000 And that's the real problem.

00:22:29.000 The finger salute at the rally made by dozens of Mr. Trump supporters made headlines, inviting comparisons to gestures seen at an evangelical conference, to the so-called QAnon salute, and even with the Nazi Sieg Heil.

00:22:41.000 Some, however, argued it was simply a reference to Mr. Trump's America First slogan.

00:22:45.000 So there's various things it could have been, and if you go with the worst possible interpretation, it's difficult not to imagine that that is somehow for political gain, particularly if you're willing to praise Georgia Maloney, who some say, particularly on the left, is a far-right politician, certainly she's praised Mussolini, and if you're willing to support Ukrainian troops that are literal, explicitly Nazi.

00:23:06.000 It shows that there's a degree of complexity and certainly invites the question, do you just call people fascists and Nazis so that you can malign, marginalise them and disengage from conversation?

00:23:18.000 Which is the one thing you actually need to do.

00:23:21.000 Engage in conversation.

00:23:23.000 Has fascism simply become a kind of Bullet to end conversation.

00:23:27.000 To end debate.

00:23:28.000 And if that is the case, and I suspect it is, then that's the last thing America and the world need right now.

00:23:33.000 What they need are open arms, open discourse.

00:23:36.000 A lot of people are frustrated.

00:23:38.000 A lot of people are angry.

00:23:39.000 Because of the failings of neoliberalism, people are willing to look at Ethno-nationalist populist ideas.

00:23:45.000 They're attracted by brilliant public orators like Donald Trump, and that's our fault.

00:23:51.000 We should do better.

00:23:53.000 Meanwhile, Clinton has claimed that Giorgia Maloney becoming Italy's first woman prime minister will open doors for women. 0.97

00:23:59.000 Yeah, fascist women. 1.00

00:24:01.000 What do you want? 1.00

00:24:01.000 Hitler with tits? 1.00

00:24:03.000 Hitler! 0.99

00:24:04.000 Interviewed for the country's leading daily, Il Corriere della Sera, she spoke of the very powerful forces who threaten democracy, from Russian cyber attacks to Donald Trump-style demagoguery.

00:24:13.000 But commenting on Maloney, who's been labelled fascist, Clinton said, every time a woman is elected to head of state or government, a fairy gets its wigs. 0.98

00:24:22.000 No, that's a step forward.

00:24:23.000 She continues.

00:24:24.000 I never agreed with Margaret Thatcher, but I admired her determination, she added, referring to the British Prime Minister who played an instrumental role in advancing the neoliberal counter-revolution in the United Kingdom.

00:24:33.000 To pretend that there is no direct link between the policies of Margaret Thatcher and the policies of the Clintons is ridiculous.

00:24:40.000 Margaret Thatcher, when asked what was her greatest achievement, answered Tony Blair.

00:24:45.000 Meaning that from that point on, you couldn't have an old-school left-wing politician.

00:24:50.000 You couldn't have that anymore.

00:24:51.000 Tony Blair was conservatism or republicanism light.

00:24:55.000 That's what she regarded as a great achievement.

00:24:57.000 And when you look at that more broadly, what it suggests is that beyond apparent bipartisan politics, there is an ideology It's called neoliberalism, which encompasses both of those apparently separate parties in a way that makes them kind of redundant.

00:25:11.000 Their differences are not that important.

00:25:14.000 That's why they want you to argue about things like gender identity, racial identity, cultural values, tradition versus progressivism, because while you're doing that, very powerful financial interests and state interests are getting on with business as usual.

00:25:28.000 You don't need me to tell you that, but I am telling you that because it's my job.

00:25:32.000 Thanks in no small part to Clinton and her husband, former US President Bill Clinton, Thatcher's free market ideology and upwardly redistributive policies such as privatisation, pro-corporate trade deals and deregulation of the financial industry also took hold in the United States, worsening inequality and aiding the ascent of reactionaries like Trump.

00:25:51.000 So there you go.

00:25:52.000 Is the real problem fascism?

00:25:54.000 Or is the real problem neoliberalism that means apparent partisan distinctions are redundant and irrelevant and ordinary people have got nowhere to go and blindly grope for some sort of solution and apparently gifted orators offering populist solutions will be more attractive?

00:26:12.000 Isn't that what should be addressed rather than going around saying someone's fascist because of the way their fingers move about?

00:26:19.000 I would say it bloody well is.

00:26:21.000 But that's just what I think.

00:26:22.000 Let me know what you think in the comments.

00:26:24.000 Here's the news. 1.00

00:26:25.000 No, here's the fucking news! 0.99

00:26:31.000 Well, a lot of good points there. 0.99

00:26:32.000 Keep your comments and chat coming in.

00:26:34.000 Stay with us for the entirety of the episode.

00:26:37.000 Now, I'm very, very excited to share with you my conversation with the fantastic contemporary shaman, a man who, when he lost his wife to suicide, didn't crack, didn't crumble, because I know a lot of you are suffering.

00:26:49.000 I know there's a lot of pain out there.

00:26:50.000 We come from pain.

00:26:52.000 I'm going to have a fantastic conversation with Wim Hof.

00:26:54.000 It's always enlightening to talk to him.

00:26:56.000 It's always enlightening to get up on your feet and do the horse dance.

00:26:59.000 Wim, these practices, in a sense, you're working at such a crucial place.

00:27:05.000 The intersection, biochemical process, which it always would have been, you know, the reason meditation works, the reason that breath work is successful, the reason that these techniques have been around for millennia, is because they are effective.

00:27:19.000 And now, and your work has been significant in this, we are able to see what the impact is On the body in the same way you can look at the way that vitamin D is helpful or vitamin C or other forms of more material nutrition.

00:27:33.000 It's hard when working in the territory of spirit to make material demonstration and this is what has always led to cynicism and the ongoing favoring of that which is demonstrably true and rationally true.

00:27:48.000 But we're beginning to see the end of the road for this model as we approach a kind of planetary cataclysm, whether you take that to be ecologically or a kind of psychic crisis that seems to be happening wherever we are in the world.

00:28:02.000 The pandemic, it seems, was a kind of warning, a few years of potential respite and re-examination, but it became a time, in my opinion, of unprecedented corruption, exploitation, Centralised power and elitist profiteering.

00:28:17.000 This war in Ukraine, a war in Europe, at this point in our evolution, it seems ridiculous to imagine that we could be in this position.

00:28:26.000 And even though, of course, both sides, and I don't mean Ukraine particularly, I mean, you know, it seems that there is some complexity that is not reported in the mainstream media, that is historically underwritten perhaps by the actions of NATO, And the complexities of Ukrainian political life and the various factions that operate within Ukraine, not to mention potential electoral fraud and mismanagement.

00:28:49.000 These are all things that I do not claim to be an expert in, but I've seen reported.

00:28:53.000 In this evident time of crisis, it is obvious that we have to change, but people do not want to change.

00:29:00.000 A lot of people, certainly people that are in positions of power, don't want to change because the systems that are failing a lot of people continue to work for them.

00:29:10.000 So I wonder Wim, what kind of methods would you like to see brought to the forefront culturally as well as at the level of the individual?

00:29:21.000 And how do you use your techniques to give you a sense of hope and optimism when a lot of people feel that we are moving from crisis to crisis?

00:29:33.000 Yes, right now there's actually a crisis from crisis, put Christ out loud.

00:29:40.000 Crisis out loud.

00:29:43.000 What we see historically never happened, but evolution will push through.

00:29:51.000 And evolution is saying, hey, the purpose of you guys, humanity, is not to make a mess out of it and not to be in a crisis or in a confusion.

00:30:00.000 You have to go past these clouds and come to the understanding that you are able to expand neurologically to 100% of your brain, which is then able to connect with the Omnipresence, Omniscience and Omnipotency, which is nothing more than physics.

00:30:20.000 It's no longer even metaphysics.

00:30:23.000 You can measure it.

00:30:24.000 You can see it.

00:30:25.000 The thing is, the future is beautiful.

00:30:30.000 And the child wants to be born.

00:30:32.000 The spiritual child wants to be born.

00:30:34.000 That is harmony inside and outside.

00:30:37.000 The hierarchies.

00:30:38.000 The hierarchic systems of the past.

00:30:41.000 The wars coming there from. 0.98

00:30:43.000 Because one king is different than the other.

00:30:46.000 And then they want to expand and they make war.

00:30:48.000 They sacrifice their subjects and all that. 1.00

00:30:52.000 Stupidity is ending now. 1.00

00:30:56.000 And it doesn't make sense. 1.00

00:30:58.000 We can nuclearly Kill the world 150 times over and and still we are fighting it is it is not according to our evolutionary Development what it says is hey guys the the guys who are right now in power and taking our money and Parasiting like vultures upon us and trying to win within their arrogance to keep on going as much as people at it and

00:31:27.000 It is time of awakening.

00:31:29.000 It is time to get autonomous.

00:31:32.000 Now, what did I show?

00:31:34.000 People are not going to listen if I'm talking like this.

00:31:38.000 But they will listen if I show that the autonomic nervous system can be controlled.

00:31:44.000 That the autonomous processes in the brain can be controlled.

00:31:48.000 Beyond the paradigm of the past.

00:31:52.000 Far beyond the paradigm of the past.

00:31:56.000 And then, when you've got that connection, which can be done in one day, then people get their autonomy.

00:32:06.000 Then the old sayings from the old scriptures was, The mind in control is your greatest enemy of your greatest friends.

00:32:19.000 If it is not in control, it's your greatest enemy.

00:32:23.000 And that's where we are.

00:32:25.000 We have been held, arrested, and it was nice and smooth, mesmerized, hypnotized, schooled to fit into a system, a hierarchic system, and it all went nice.

00:32:37.000 Evolution gave us the time to play around with that kind of model. 0.96

00:32:41.000 But the change is inevitably coming and we better get our shit together all. 0.82

00:32:51.000 And we bring it with love and power, music, art, with common sense, tribal, family love for everybody in the world. 0.97

00:33:00.000 No more insensitivity and wars like the children in Syria.

00:33:07.000 They are brought up in war.

00:33:09.000 And that's the only thing they know.

00:33:11.000 And we call ourselves civilized. 0.99

00:33:14.000 In the U.S., it's five hours looking at a damn television to be entertained. 0.99

00:33:20.000 Five hours on average. 0.99

00:33:22.000 That's civilization.

00:33:24.000 It's numbness.

00:33:25.000 It's insensitive.

00:33:27.000 It is hypnotism, mesmerized, and we keep on going.

00:33:34.000 And the little club who are ruling, and over the politicians, and over all of us, they are just keeping on.

00:33:42.000 They are not happy.

00:33:43.000 They are not strong.

00:33:44.000 They are not healthy.

00:33:46.000 They're just trickery, devious, with false arguments in a place where they think happiness doesn't exist.

00:33:57.000 There's a real guarantee for strength and health.

00:34:02.000 Love doesn't exist.

00:34:03.000 I take the second best alternative.

00:34:05.000 I take control of all the people.

00:34:08.000 Oh, look at me, look at me.

00:34:11.000 It's over.

00:34:11.000 It's done.

00:34:13.000 Masquerade is over.

00:34:14.000 Carnival, the real carnival, is coming, where we are in a paradise. 0.76

00:34:19.000 And it takes time, but the transition is there, and it's for us to push every day goddamn hard.

00:34:27.000 And I love it. 0.90

00:34:29.000 I'm a sucker for fights.

00:34:32.000 I love to cross the wall.

00:34:35.000 I love it every day!

00:34:36.000 And if I talk with you, I feel inspired even more!

00:34:40.000 And so, you do it in your way, I do it in my way, and I got so many friends.

00:34:44.000 In fact, I just had a WhatsApp of a person who went to the summer retreats.

00:34:50.000 He said, I got my leukemia results just checked in the blood.

00:34:56.000 It's gone!

00:34:58.000 Just one week.

00:34:59.000 What is this?

00:35:00.000 I take on the cancer.

00:35:02.000 I take on those monsters.

00:35:04.000 I take on ALS.

00:35:05.000 I take on these monsters.

00:35:07.000 We are the new St.

00:35:08.000 John's.

00:35:09.000 We take on the monsters, the dragons.

00:35:12.000 And we show bravery where others say, oh, you cannot say this! 1.00

00:35:18.000 Fucking pharmaceuticals on top, having brainwashed you, saying that to me? 0.99

00:35:23.000 Come on, where is your belief? 1.00

00:35:25.000 Where is your faith in humanity, in the power of Mother Nature?

00:35:29.000 Where is it?

00:35:30.000 And people take it up.

00:35:32.000 I just startled them.

00:35:34.000 You know, first day, guys, I'm not doing gradual cold exposure.

00:35:39.000 Do they know this or not?

00:35:41.000 Conditions or not, you're going to go for 10 minutes into the ice.

00:35:45.000 And they do it.

00:35:48.000 75 years, the oldest.

00:35:50.000 And with conditions.

00:35:51.000 He had to pee five times a night.

00:35:53.000 And directly after that startling start of the day with 10 minutes into the ice, he was spirited.

00:36:01.000 He went in and he doesn't pee anymore in the night.

00:36:05.000 I mean, crazy stuff happens.

00:36:07.000 Well, it's probably frozen, Wim.

00:36:10.000 The pee is probably frozen in his belly.

00:36:12.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:16.000 It's crazy what I all see.

00:36:18.000 You know, life is a miracle.

00:36:20.000 Miracles happen.

00:36:21.000 Go to life.

00:36:23.000 So Wim, essentially a lot of your work, or like your method, your ideal, is that there is power in us already.

00:36:31.000 And the power has become crushed.

00:36:33.000 It has become dormant.

00:36:35.000 There are ways of awakening this power.

00:36:38.000 I, as you know, have the good fortune to have regular ice baths and regular sauna.

00:36:43.000 How far are you now?

00:36:44.000 I saw it.

00:36:45.000 How far did you guys go?

00:36:50.000 I've done 10 minutes, it's still my record.

00:36:53.000 What do you think I should aim for?

00:36:54.000 15, tomorrow.

00:36:57.000 15 tomorrow?

00:36:58.000 Yes.

00:36:59.000 Wim, when I come out, I feel very, very, well, cold.

00:37:04.000 Is that how I feel?

00:37:06.000 What do I do when I get out?

00:37:08.000 You do the horse stance.

00:37:10.000 Shaman you know?

00:37:12.000 Legs down.

00:37:16.000 Legs down.

00:37:18.000 PEACE.

00:37:31.000 Yeah, I feel bad.

00:37:53.000 If you do this five minutes, you're totally back.

00:37:56.000 I'll be warm as toast, won't I, Wim?

00:37:59.000 Yeah, really!

00:38:01.000 You know, lately I did it with 50,000 people.

00:38:05.000 No way, where?

00:38:06.000 In Czech Republic.

00:38:08.000 What was it like, Wim?

00:38:10.000 That was like an ocean.

00:38:14.000 All this... I will send you the video.

00:38:18.000 Yeah, you showed me it really.

00:38:20.000 I remember you sent it to me.

00:38:21.000 I was watching it at the time.

00:38:22.000 I just wanted to give you the opportunity to talk about it on the podcast.

00:38:25.000 I love it when you send me these videos of everyone covered in mud and clay.

00:38:30.000 It looks so ancient and beautiful and powerful.

00:38:33.000 It's back!

00:38:34.000 It's exactly what you said in the beginning.

00:38:37.000 The time of indulgence is over.

00:38:40.000 We have to get back to the family.

00:38:43.000 We have to get back from the cities to the village.

00:38:46.000 And the village is inside of us.

00:38:49.000 There where there is craftsmanship, creativity, where you feel each other instead of being disconnected and into strange abstract thinking and getting lost of your purpose and soul.

00:39:04.000 So, that one is back.

00:39:05.000 The native is back.

00:39:07.000 We burritinated it.

00:39:08.000 We, westerners, colonists, taken over what is not ours in the world.

00:39:14.000 That aggressive mind taken over, insensitive, now comes, the native is awakening.

00:39:23.000 Because the natives never, they have maybe gone and left their body, but their spirit is strong and it's coming now.

00:39:31.000 It's a sacrifice, it has been.

00:39:34.000 And it sounds like mystical, but it's not.

00:39:37.000 It's who we are.

00:39:38.000 One with the world, one with nature, and one with ourselves.

00:39:42.000 That's where we go.

00:39:43.000 It's very simple.

00:39:45.000 Yeah, that's really beautiful.

00:39:46.000 I mean, because, you know, on this show we talk to a lot of people that have academic theories of how the world must change, that have good philosophical analysis of the way that leadership needs to change, that talk about new systems that are required so that people can be empowered in their own lives as individuals and communities, so that we can prevent corrupt and centralized control from dominating the planet.

00:40:11.000 But people miss what seems to me to be a vital point.

00:40:16.000 It's going to take a change in consciousness and it will be a full body change that we have to become different. 0.93

00:40:23.000 You know, when I talk to you, sometimes I feel a little hypocritical, Wim, because I still sometimes just sit and watch dumb stuff on a screen. 0.89

00:40:30.000 Sometimes I just want to eat a cake. 0.99

00:40:32.000 My wife told me sometimes you just have to look at this dumb screen. 0.99

00:40:37.000 It's a way to detangle all your thoughts. 1.00

00:40:40.000 That it is so dumb, you don't need to think, you just let it go. 0.99

00:40:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:40:44.000 I got that.

00:40:45.000 But now, since a year, I'm not looking at TV at all anymore.

00:40:51.000 Yeah.

00:40:51.000 First it was like, hey, but I want to see the news later.

00:40:54.000 But then I found out the news is not really news. 0.99

00:40:57.000 It's prefabricated spiritual manner of the shit hole. 0.99

00:41:03.000 And I don't like, I don't want it. 0.99

00:41:06.000 So, yes, there we are.

00:41:09.000 And no television anymore.

00:41:11.000 And now I forgot the line.

00:41:13.000 Bring it back.

00:41:14.000 You don't, yeah, you don't watch TV.

00:41:16.000 You don't, in your, because I was saying that I still sometimes live a very kind of normal life.

00:41:22.000 Like, you know, like, I'm like a normal guy.

00:41:23.000 And I do too!

00:41:25.000 Do you?

00:41:25.000 I do too!

00:41:26.000 What, you go to the supermarket?

00:41:29.000 Oh yeah, I do it all.

00:41:30.000 I do all what God has forbidden.

00:41:34.000 Especially that.

00:41:35.000 But it feels great, you know, mate.

00:41:37.000 The thing is, I got my objectives.

00:41:40.000 And one of the objectives is simple.

00:41:43.000 I want to change the whole wide world and anything that is in that realm, scientifically to be proven, I do it.

00:41:52.000 I also train every day. 0.94

00:41:54.000 I'm fucking strong. 0.95

00:41:56.000 I make music. 0.97

00:41:57.000 I just, very soon we have an album with 10 great songs of like seven minutes each, like Pink Floyd.

00:42:08.000 Me and Tayir.

00:42:09.000 I love Tayir.

00:42:10.000 Tayir also performed at Community.

00:42:13.000 Brilliant musician.

00:42:14.000 He's a Uyghur, is that right? 1.00

00:42:16.000 A Uyghur person. 1.00

00:42:17.000 Uyghur, Uyghur.

00:42:19.000 Uyghur, Uyghur.

00:42:20.000 Is that how you say it?

00:42:20.000 Uyghur, yeah.

00:42:21.000 I love that dude.

00:42:22.000 He's fantastic.

00:42:23.000 He's Chinese now.

00:42:25.000 But, you know, the Uyghurs, they have no Dalai Lama or Gandhi.

00:42:31.000 They have music and poetry.

00:42:33.000 His brother has been arrested 15 years now just because of poetry.

00:42:39.000 That's why the world is.

00:42:41.000 So, as long as the world is that way, I told him, let's conquer the whole wide world.

00:42:46.000 You know how we conquered the Chinese? 1.00

00:42:49.000 Because I've been in China a couple of times.

00:42:52.000 They are beautiful people, only the government, this hierarchy once again.

00:42:56.000 We just get through the hearts.

00:42:59.000 Let's make beautiful, tender music.

00:43:02.000 If music is able to make you cry, then that's the music we need to make.

00:43:06.000 Because then we are able to open up the hearts in China and everywhere else in the world.

00:43:12.000 And it's almost done.

00:43:15.000 And that's where we go.

00:43:18.000 But I can be as normal and I am as normal as... Actually, I'm not normal.

00:43:23.000 No, you're not.

00:43:24.000 I've never seen you do be normal.

00:43:25.000 I've never seen it.

00:43:27.000 From the minute you arrived at the festival... It's alright.

00:43:29.000 No, you're not.

00:43:30.000 When we did Community, you arrived and then we were in the woods and then you did those exercises with my daughter.

00:43:38.000 We did the splits, then we marched down and all the festival wasn't set up yet and you started playing a guitar, you got straight into some ice baths, you performed the song, you brought people together, you gave an impromptu lecture on the pharmaceutical industry and the positive impact on breathing exercises, potentially on cancer and a variety of diseases.

00:43:57.000 You're just a tornado!

00:43:59.000 You're a tornado of a person.

00:44:01.000 And I think that, you know, when I meet very special people like you, or like the Saint Amma, you know, like, for me, it's important that all of us know that, yeah, there are people that are different and that have a concentration of very particular talents.

00:44:13.000 But, like, even me as a person that still, like, stares at stuff online, that still sometimes eats dumb food, that sometimes feels, even in spite of the fact I meditate and do Brazilian jiu-jitsu and try to do all of these things, your breathwork, the ice baths, you know, coming from where I'm coming from, The education I had, the drug habit I had, because of techniques like yours, I've come a long way.

00:44:36.000 Like, these techniques are very effective in dealing with the deficits that this system, I think, installs in you.

00:44:43.000 Deliberately creates these deficits so that you consume in order to get them.

00:44:47.000 I remember, I remember the first time I saw you on TV.

00:44:51.000 You were talking with a politician.

00:44:53.000 So how come we, as young people, start to take drugs?

00:44:58.000 Why isn't that questioned within the Parliament?

00:45:02.000 Something like that.

00:45:02.000 And I found that revolutionary spirit there.

00:45:06.000 I loved it.

00:45:07.000 I loved the way you just bluntly asked for interrogation, you know, to be inquisitive, to get clearance, to get some clarity about this.

00:45:21.000 Yeah.

00:45:23.000 I was last week with Joseph Fiennes.

00:45:24.000 He's going to play me.

00:45:25.000 No way!

00:45:26.000 They're making a Wim Hof movie with Joseph Fiennes playing you.

00:45:30.000 I can't believe it.

00:45:30.000 Tell me more about this.

00:45:32.000 Oh yeah.

00:45:33.000 We had such fun.

00:45:36.000 He went to do the Ant-Man's Tale in Canada and all.

00:45:42.000 He was there in Vancouver.

00:45:44.000 And all America.

00:45:45.000 It's a Western country.

00:45:47.000 It's a Western country.

00:45:48.000 And when you go walk in Vancouver, beautiful!

00:45:52.000 And then you walk into that avenue.

00:45:55.000 There you see all these people homeless in some tents and they're victims of the pharmaceutical painkiller industry.

00:46:05.000 And they are just left there.

00:46:07.000 They are not even on drugs or something.

00:46:10.000 They're just victims of our industry, governed by our governments, installed and maintained.

00:46:19.000 And there they are, left to their wits.

00:46:23.000 It's misery.

00:46:24.000 Pure, filthy misery.

00:46:27.000 And Jordan Peterson was in the same.

00:46:33.000 He is a very honest man and very intelligent.

00:46:36.000 And then he got a pain, an injury, and he began to take painkillers.

00:46:41.000 And then he got hooked, addicted on it, very much pain.

00:46:46.000 Then he started to do this breathing and the cold.

00:46:50.000 And it seems that it is all gone now.

00:46:52.000 That is what we bring.

00:46:54.000 We bring to honest people and that actually is everybody.

00:46:59.000 Besides, when people pass through their traumas and we are able to do that in the centers and our festivals to de-traumatize people, to bring them back to their beautiful self and have the reins consciously in their own hands.

00:47:16.000 That's what we do.

00:47:18.000 So, there I am!

00:47:20.000 I love this Wim.

00:47:21.000 I love the assumption that our native state is beautiful and that we acquire tendencies and habits that are less than beautiful.

00:47:31.000 No one is, of course, perfect.

00:47:32.000 I'm also fascinated to hear that there's a film being made about you and I'm excited to watch it and I think I should have a cameo in that movie, frankly, Wim.

00:47:42.000 Yes!

00:47:42.000 Oh, let's do that!

00:47:44.000 You look like Jesus.

00:47:44.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:47:46.000 Maybe I talk sometimes to Jesus.

00:47:47.000 You've got to meet our Lord Jesus at some point in the transcendent state.

00:47:52.000 Tell the studio, otherwise they can't have the life rights unless Russell Brain gets to play Jesus.

00:47:57.000 They'll love that.

00:47:58.000 Another thing is I'm going to do a series just in seven days with eight people with conditions in Ireland.

00:48:07.000 In March, TV series, IRT, or ITR, or whatever.

00:48:12.000 That name.

00:48:14.000 It's the biggest station.

00:48:16.000 I'm going to guide eight people within five days with, say, addiction.

00:48:24.000 Crohn's disease, rheumatoid arthritis, depression, whatever they got.

00:48:29.000 And I will show that within five days they will be able to embrace their nativeness and a native being is in harmony with the nature outside and inside.

00:48:41.000 That makes them very, very, very powerful.

00:48:44.000 And then he is able to heal.

00:48:46.000 Of anything.

00:48:47.000 And that in five days.

00:48:49.000 That is the new challenge.

00:48:50.000 And I will do a new series with the BBC.

00:48:54.000 Hey, listen to this.

00:48:56.000 The Kardashians, you know the soap series with the Kardashians?

00:49:00.000 Of course, yeah, everyone knows.

00:49:02.000 They have 200, 300 million followers.

00:49:04.000 They are doing the Wim Hof Method now!

00:49:06.000 Amazing.

00:49:07.000 Now, they asked me, the BBC, don't tell nobody, we just tell it to your community.

00:49:16.000 Is it okay?

00:49:21.000 Because they wanted me already at their place.

00:49:25.000 But Enam said, no, just do the fundamentals.

00:49:31.000 Doesn't matter.

00:49:31.000 Now, I'm going to take the reign, I'm going to connect with them, and then tell the Kardashians, hey, come to the BBC series as a guest, or I go to you guys and we do a whole series on whatever, because your reach is power, and power I need to distribute, I give them purpose, something they cannot buy.

00:49:55.000 That would be massive.

00:49:57.000 Yeah, whatever it takes, we're going to spread this all over the planet.

00:50:02.000 So it's going to be, it's going to go faster and faster and faster.

00:50:07.000 And Russell, beautiful show.

00:50:10.000 I know your silver line cascades everywhere and people like to be washed by that.

00:50:18.000 It's just beautiful.

00:50:19.000 Beautiful plants grow around and it's imaginary beautiful.

00:50:24.000 It's a dream landscape what you create and that's a glimpse of the future coming to them.

00:50:31.000 And they can feel it.

00:50:32.000 They can remember with that.

00:50:35.000 And that is the future because we never had the neurological power and activity in our brain to be able to really connect consciously with those deepest areas within us.

00:50:49.000 And now we have.

00:50:52.000 Let's do much more together.

00:50:55.000 And that could be film, Hollywood, BBC series.

00:50:59.000 Now, yesterday I heard the format of the Frise de Fer has been sold through the sales department of the BBC to the whole wide world.

00:51:12.000 So, France was yesterday.

00:51:14.000 And in France, they're going to do the Frise de Fille, that is breathing, that is the eyes, and people are getting through their trauma and find their deeper potential, the nativeness and all.

00:51:28.000 It's getting there.

00:51:29.000 And then every country, I will take people who are instructors in the Wim Hof Method or in your method, you know, the right people and the right wavelength and do it in their language.

00:51:43.000 It's fantastic!

00:51:44.000 It's fantastic!

00:51:45.000 We're getting even a great cut of it!

00:51:48.000 Amazing!

00:51:49.000 Perfect!

00:51:49.000 They can't do it without you, Wim!

00:51:51.000 They can't do it without you! 1.00

00:51:53.000 What the shit! 1.00

00:51:55.000 It's amazing! 0.99

00:51:56.000 So, where I want to invest in The centers of consciousness of uplifting the spirit with name and addressing everything very clearly.

00:52:09.000 So there is no space for speculation.

00:52:11.000 It's physical evidence-based connection what you're going to get in one day if you get to a center like that because we are humans with all that beauty existence. 0.99

00:52:21.000 We just take away the shit. 0.99

00:52:24.000 Wim Hof, that's magnificent. 0.99

00:52:26.000 Wim, do you mind answering a few questions that we've been sent in from our audience?

00:52:31.000 The first one is Mr. Silence Dugood said, Wim, you almost lost your toes to frostbite while breaking a record running a marathon barefoot in the snow.

00:52:39.000 It's the only time I've ever seen you afraid.

00:52:42.000 Can I ask you, did you feel fear in those moments when you were speaking to your toes and kissing them and begging them to respond?

00:52:49.000 Was it a manifestation?

00:52:50.000 Was it prayer?

00:52:51.000 Was it hope?

00:52:52.000 What was it, Wim?

00:52:53.000 Yeah, it was all that.

00:52:55.000 It's human to think of all that.

00:52:57.000 And all that happens.

00:52:58.000 But you are... I was also heightened in that moment.

00:53:03.000 I was calculating.

00:53:04.000 Yes or no?

00:53:04.000 Can I do it?

00:53:05.000 The doctor said, no.

00:53:07.000 Physiologically, it is really a risk.

00:53:09.000 You're going to lose your foot.

00:53:11.000 And the evidence, she said this and that and so and so.

00:53:16.000 And I just felt, I was with myself, feeling my foot and said, Just making connection, feeling it.

00:53:26.000 It's alright.

00:53:30.000 Let's go.

00:53:31.000 And then I went.

00:53:32.000 You know, you feel at that moment.

00:53:35.000 Of course, fear is there.

00:53:36.000 And fear is saying, yeah, you cannot do this.

00:53:39.000 It's going to be dangerous.

00:53:41.000 But there is a sense which is stronger.

00:53:44.000 And that is connected to your purpose.

00:53:46.000 I had a purpose there.

00:53:48.000 What I did not know, but I fulfilled it.

00:53:50.000 And now, later, looking at it, I say, I'm bloody proud of it.

00:53:55.000 That I went and do all that crazy stuff, not to succumb to my rationale, but to something else inside which I wanted to open up.

00:54:05.000 And I did!

00:54:07.000 So, I love fear, but I love life even better.

00:54:13.000 That's fantastic, Wim.

00:54:14.000 SensitiveHeart25 says, Can cold showers help me with my grief, Wim?

00:54:19.000 My heart feels so heavy since my father died.

00:54:22.000 That's SensitiveHeart25.

00:54:24.000 As a papa, I say yes.

00:54:26.000 The first thing you do when your heart is on fire, actually cold, is to take, like macrobiotics or homeopathics, they take a little bit of the disease and that makes, awakens an equation inside the blood flow.

00:54:48.000 A little bit of cold triggers the deep emotional neurological cold To go away.

00:54:57.000 Wow.

00:54:57.000 Yes.

00:54:58.000 It will help with grief.

00:54:59.000 It will help with grief.

00:55:01.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:55:02.000 This is from Maria.

00:55:03.000 Dear Wim, I enjoyed watching and listening to you at the Community Festival with Russell in Hay-on-Wye.

00:55:08.000 I wasn't brave enough to try the ice bath, but my friend said they felt amazing.

00:55:13.000 If you're there next year, I'll definitely do it.

00:55:15.000 Will you join me?

00:55:16.000 How should I prepare?

00:55:18.000 That's from Maria.

00:55:20.000 Oh, Maria, where's Jesus?

00:55:23.000 Yes, of course!

00:55:24.000 Let's do this!

00:55:25.000 Maria, I'm waiting.

00:55:28.000 You better be ready.

00:55:29.000 You know how to get ready?

00:55:30.000 Just take cold showers.

00:55:32.000 Besides of that, cold shower a day keeps the doctor away.

00:55:35.000 Even the doctor is doing it.

00:55:38.000 Thanks, Wim.

00:55:38.000 David, this is from Twitter.

00:55:41.000 What's the best number of rounds for the breathing method and is there a time limit on the breath hold?

00:55:47.000 There is absolutely no time limit, and not for rounds, as long as you feel good with it.

00:55:54.000 That is one.

00:55:56.000 About the time limit, don't force.

00:56:00.000 Then you can go on.

00:56:01.000 How many rounds is the most that you do?

00:56:05.000 Last January, I had to do a 12 series with the BBC, and we only had seven days. 0.97

00:56:15.000 There I did like one and a half hour of breathing in the morning to cleanse myself of all the shit and I was flawless. 0.98

00:56:24.000 I could deliver all the time, shop all the time. 0.99

00:56:29.000 Twelve programs in one week and still we had the time.

00:56:35.000 So really, Wim, I reckon it takes, the process for me, like my first round is usually maybe two minutes, then maybe two and a half, then three, then, you know, so like if I do five rounds, I normally get to four, I can get to four minutes.

00:56:51.000 So like that process can take, thank you.

00:56:53.000 So that process can take, you know, 20 minutes to half an hour to do five rounds.

00:56:58.000 Yeah, half an hour to do five rounds and it can take around 20 minutes to do three rounds

00:57:02.000 So you probably did like 10 15 rounds 15 15 rounds and yeah When you really need something to be done well

00:57:13.000 breathe in the morning Cleanse yourself to the deepest.

00:57:18.000 That is the lymphatic system.

00:57:20.000 And you can only do that through the breathing, because it directly goes into the bloodstream, into the fluids, past the borders of the lymphatic knots, into the deepest, and it cleanses any acid out of your lymphatic system, which is the garbage system, the deep garbage system.

00:57:39.000 And then, if pressure is coming of whatever you need to do in performance, acting, or work, or very important, I don't know, Olympic performance, you will find no resistance.

00:57:57.000 Well, did you enjoy that?

00:57:58.000 It was fantastic stuff, wasn't it?

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00:59:19.000 Bye, dude.

00:59:27.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:59:39.000 Let's plug it.

00:59:40.000 Alright, let's plug it.

00:59:42.000 Man switching, switch on, switch off.

00:59:47.000 Man, he's switching.

00:59:49.000 Switch on, switch on.

00:59:50.000 Man, he's switching.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - October 04, 2022

Stay Free with Russell Brand #005 - What Is A Fascist And Who Decides?

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