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00:11:40.000And indeed, we will be seeing if we can trust the science today.
00:11:44.000When we ask the question, are we being ushered into a metaverse penitentiary by senile oligarchs?
00:11:49.000I used the word prison earlier, but...
00:11:51.000Penitentiary, in a way, it scans better.
00:11:54.000If you're watching this on catch-up, hello, hello where you are.
00:11:57.000And if you're watching this in Luxembourg, it's 6pm and I hope you're satisfied.
00:12:02.000In here's the news today, we're going to be having a deeper look at the continued funding for the US organisation at the centre of the Covid-19 lab leak controversy.
00:12:11.000Also, we're speaking to Dr Alina Chan, who's a molecular biologist at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard and believes that Covid-19 likely came out of a lab.
00:12:36.000We're looking also at Joe Biden a little bit and his sort of ongoing apparent senility and I don't know man sometimes I feel that the ridicule for example at the Trump rally he did this sort of funny two minute reel I sometimes think it's really really funny and sometimes I think like I don't know like it reminds me of sort of my Nan or something and I feel like don't that's my Nan but then I remember that's not my Nan.
00:12:59.000That is the President of the United States of America.
00:13:27.000That's our members community where we stay behind after and have a real muck about, like we smoke and muck around Show each other each other's bums and that.
00:13:34.000Great gumbo and Denver Girl MB and Trina Redd.
00:13:37.000Thanks for joining us at Stay Free AF.
00:13:39.000If you are a member of Stay Free AF tomorrow, you can join us exclusive and live for my chat with Vandana Shiva because you ain't got no one in this world that's more willing to literally stand in front of a camera and tell you stuff about Bill Gates that's gonna make your bones bend, that's gonna make your blood boil, that's gonna make your socks fall down, stuff like that.
00:14:28.000Now, I want you to help us as we go through this news.
00:14:30.000Are these dishonest lies or merely pointless distractions?
00:14:34.000We've told you already, the NIH has awarded a grant to a group central to the lab leak theory.
00:14:40.000We're going to be looking at that in more depth.
00:14:42.000And also, I'm going to be asking you, how important to you is gain-of-function research?
00:14:48.000Which is, as I'm sure you know, because you're an informed audience, that's where they get a virus, make it more deadly, just in case that ever happens.
00:14:55.000I think people said it was just above gas prices, that it was of that importance.
00:15:11.000That is like sort of ensuring that you don't ever get murdered in the dead of night by inviting a murderer into your house, working out how to stop him and that, and then going, ah good, that's that under control.
00:16:11.000Let us know in the comments, let us know in the chat, how you feel about free speech.
00:16:14.000Let us know how you feel about PayPal making those kind of moves.
00:16:17.000Let us know if you'd like to see us take an in-depth look at that.
00:16:20.000Does this remind you a bit of the trucker protest when they started freezing bank accounts?
00:16:24.000Well, yeah, it does, because they... Sorry to jump in, Russ, but they...
00:16:28.000They were going to fine anyone guilty of misinformation, as we hear all the time, about two and a half thousand dollars.
00:16:36.000But they've now retracted that policy saying that it was an error.
00:16:39.000Which, it doesn't sound like much of an error, but... Sorry, I accidentally had a policy there where I was going to fine you two and a half thousand dollars.
00:17:15.000So this states that any licensed physician or surgeon committing unprofessional conduct Is if they disseminate misinformation, or disinformation, or cis-information, or piss-information.
00:17:29.000About the nature and risks of the virus, the prevention and treatment of COVID-19, and the development, safety and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines.
00:17:36.000So essentially I think what we're getting from that is, do not speak ill of any of that.
00:17:41.000Hear this dog, and this is some pretty dope information.
00:17:47.000Toby Young from the Free Speech Union, he is one of the people that's being, I think, curtailed by PayPal there because he complained about us getting that YouTube strike.
00:18:12.000The pound just shot up a couple of penny pieces right there.
00:18:15.000And Toby Young said, if that's misinformation, then surely Rachel Maddick going on MSNBC going, you take a vaccine, you can go cough in your grandma's face.
00:18:44.000Let me know in the comments, let me know in the chat whether you think that this misinformation, disinformation thing's getting all sorts of out of control, baby.
00:19:34.000Gavin Newsom reached 10.6 million dollars in campaign cash for vendors who then pocketed 6.2 billion.
00:19:42.000Now, interesting we're talking about health and vaccines because major healthcare gave nearly 700 grand Anthem Blue Cross gave nearly 900 grand and United Health Group 500, just over 500 grand.
00:19:58.000So essentially the point of this is that through these donations a lot of these companies, a lot in healthcare, are receiving massive amounts in return.
00:20:05.000And do you think because Gavin Newsom accepted that funding money that he would favourably legislate on behalf of pharmaceutical companies?
00:21:13.000You tell me if that's monkey pox territory.
00:21:15.000But now we're wondering, if pets give it to us, because it was monkey pox, so surely monkeys started it, unless that's a bad rap for monkeys, the same way as some people unfavourably blame Chinese people just because the virus came from, where did that virus come from again?
00:21:49.000The risk of people with monkeypox passing the virus to their pets is low.
00:21:52.000The authors of a new study that found no transmissions in the United Kingdom have concluded.
00:21:57.000The study's finding a broader perspective in the wake of two recently reported cases of apparent monkeypox transmission from humans to their pets, including a dog in France and a puppy in Brazil.
00:22:09.000Like, this whole article is written about a dog in France and a puppy in Brazil, and I don't actually know what the difference between a dog and a puppy really is.
00:22:17.000Yeah, age is just a number, they say, but a puppy in Brazil, that guy's living it large, isn't he?
00:22:22.000He's in the Copacabana, he's wearing a little thong, he's possibly having monkey-pox style sex with Barry Manilow, I mean, possibly, at the Copacabana, I'm not alleging, you know.
00:22:59.000I've really got more confident with those buttons.
00:23:01.000Epidemiologists have expressed concern, based on these two dogs, that animal-to-human transfers of viruses will only become more common as climate change and human encroachment upon wild areas increasingly bring people into contact with wild animals, or if they fuck them.
00:23:33.000Why do your genitals look like bubble wrap?
00:23:36.000Well, it's for literally the same reason.
00:23:38.000So I don't think there's any real risk except for there's one puppy in Brazil who's in a lot of trouble and one dog somewhere in Calais who had the smile wiped off his little face.
00:24:38.000Let's get off on the right foot with no more blunders.
00:24:41.000You know, sometimes you'll hear stories about, like, indigenous trials untouched by Western civilization, where their systems of numeracy are abstracted from our own assumptions.
00:24:50.000They have things like self, other, many.
00:25:16.000Two and three, that's not complex numbers, that's not fractions, that's not square root, that's normal stuff.
00:25:22.000If I asked either of my children what the difference between two and three was, and they were not able to give me an accurate answer, it's straight down to the adoption agency, I'm afraid.
00:25:32.000Also, this place he's speaking at, it's Volvo, isn't it?
00:25:35.000Although he's speaking about the state of the US economy on manufacturing day, he's speaking Swedish.
00:25:40.000The only way to save the American manufacturing industry is by helping our good old buddies, those old hot dog Uncle Sam-loving cowboys themselves!
00:25:57.000No offence if you're Swedish, but just look at the statistics and tell me whether or not that was an accurate appraisal of reality right there, and then if it wasn't, I'll apologise anyway, I don't care.
00:26:56.000That's the kind of joke you can make on Rumble.
00:26:58.000Let's have a look at Joe Biden backing out of those questions.
00:27:02.000No, the trip was not essentially for oil.
00:27:06.000The trip was about the Middle East and about Israel and rationalization of positions.
00:27:13.000Firstly, they always claim that, don't they?
00:27:15.000They always claim that there's some humanitarian undergirding for all international diplomacy and visits, whether it's this current war between Russia and Ukraine.
00:27:57.000It's the walking backwards is fantastic but it's the continued smile that I like best.
00:28:05.000In a sense, he's not only emulating Michael Jackson, he's improving on Michael Jackson.
00:28:11.000And if you doubt that, have a look at this same thing with just the smallest amount of amending, and you will see that I'm actually 100% correct.
00:28:51.000Before we get into this story about the NIH awarding grants to the EcoHealth Alliance, the organisation that potentially were tangentially involved in the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, certainly that's one theory that's being explored, slowly explored and with impediments because the Wuhan Institute of Virology are refusing to release their files.
00:29:13.000And for me, when you're doing an investigation, when someone refuses to cooperate, That normally always means they're innocent, like if this was an episode of, I don't know, Columbo, or Morse, or Starsky & Hutch, or something.
00:29:24.000You go, oh, that person's not cooperating.
00:29:26.000Presumably, because they're so innocent, they don't even want to be involved with a chinwag.
00:29:30.000Yeah, let's give them some more money.
00:29:32.000Give these guys... Here's some more money, just could you please be double-double sure that this time you don't let anything spill out?
00:29:40.000And also, like, doesn't the fundamental question remain, why do you want to do gain-of-function research?
00:29:45.000Right, just in case ever something got really, really infectious, let's get ahead of the game, make something really, really infectious, solve the problem in advance.
00:30:05.000The company that may have caused the global pandemic through their experimentation on bat coronaviruses have been given more money to experiment on bat coronaviruses!
00:30:18.000Now, what did we learn during the pandemic?
00:30:21.000One thing I learned is it's definitely a good idea to do gain-of-function research in laboratories in Wuhan on what happens if you take a disease in a bat and make it much, much worse.
00:30:34.000Maybe it came from a wet market, maybe it came from a laboratory.
00:30:37.000There is no conclusive evidence and I'll let you know why there isn't any conclusive evidence in a minute in this story.
00:30:41.000It's going to knock your little socks off.
00:30:44.000One thing we could perhaps be a little circumspect about is giving additional funding to the very bodies that may have caused the last coronavirus pandemic pending evidence, pending evidence that is currently being withheld.
00:30:59.000This is exactly the kind of story we need to bring you.
00:31:01.000Questions that are posed here are the very questions that if they remain unanswered, leave out in the open for us all to see the hypocrisy, potential collaboration and lack of transparency of organizations like the NIH, the U.S.
00:31:14.000government, Big Pharma, the mainstream media.
00:31:25.000health officials have given a controversial research organization another $650,000 grant to experiment on COVID-like viruses, despite fears that similar risky work may have actually sparked the pandemic.
00:31:36.000Is this a place where democracy could be at work?
00:31:37.000Would you like to be given the opportunity to vote on whether or not you, in particular you, care about if there's ongoing gain-of-function research?
00:31:45.000Because they'll have an argument for it, won't they?
00:31:46.000They'll go, no, we're doing it because in case in the future there was ever a pandemic like this, we would possibly have a vaccine for it.
00:31:53.000Yeah, well, thing is, you might cause a pandemic while doing it.
00:31:56.000Yeah, but we'll have a vaccine for it, so... Oh!
00:31:58.000It makes it look like the motivation is financial rather than health-oriented.
00:32:02.000You cannot have a health industry and a pharmaceutical industry whose goals are predicated on financial outcomes.
00:32:08.000Otherwise, what you'll get is a warped system where people do irresponsible and risky things in the pursuit of profit.
00:32:58.000The grant was awarded on September the 21st and is titled, Analyzing the Potential for Future Bat Coronavirus Emergence in Myanmar, Laos and Vietnam.
00:33:06.000I'd say the potential is pretty high if there's any labs there.
00:33:09.000But even worse, if they've got wet markets in Laos, Yeah, we love them there.
00:33:13.000It's where we get all our fish and that.
00:33:36.000The new grant comes despite an open congressional investigation into the organisation, which has two other ongoing NIH grants and a third in negotiation.
00:33:43.000In August, the NIH terminated a sub-award to the Wuhan Institute of Virology that had been part of an earlier grant to EcoHealth Alliance, telling the House Oversight Committee that the organisation had refused to turn over laboratory notebooks and other records as required.
00:33:59.000Why would they refuse to hand over laboratory notebooks and other records as required?
00:34:04.000And if it's a requirement, just do it!
00:34:07.000Oh, you thought that those notebooks contained information that might lead you to conclude that our experiments led to the outbreak of this pandemic?
00:34:16.000Those notebooks were planned for a surprise party for your birthday, which we were going to hold down that stinking wet market Until we found out how dirty it was and full of coronaviruses!
00:34:28.000Well, there'll be no surprise birthday party now!
00:34:35.000The NIH has requested on two occasions that EHA provide NIH the laboratory notebooks and original electronic files from the research conducted at WIV.
00:34:45.000That's the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
00:34:47.000To date, the WIV has not provided these records, the NIH wrote to the committee.
00:34:52.000If you ask, listen, we're a bit worried about that pandemic and everything, you know, when everyone in the world had their life ruined and that, except for, I suppose, it was good for billionaires and for the pharmaceutical industry, but aside from that, that's irrelevant, most people, like grandparents, dying, not being able to see babies, born in hospital, economic opportunities, ruin of business, inability to travel, all that stuff.
00:35:09.000Just wondering if you could help us, because, you know, it came from Wuhan and that, and we're pretty sure it came from that disgusting wet market, pooey, but could we have a look at your notebooks and files and that, as you are required to give a No!
00:35:21.000Right, well, God, I can't think of any real reason why you wouldn't do that.
00:35:46.000Have you looked out your window lately?
00:35:48.000The aim of the new research is to identify areas of potential concern for future pandemic emergence in order to help public health authorities suppress an outbreak before it breaks containment.
00:35:58.000Well, that's what they were doing last time.
00:36:00.000The problem is, is the rewards for them are extremely high.
00:36:02.000Evidently, look who did well in the last pandemic.
00:36:05.000And the risks, they're not punished for anyway, because they're not being forced to release the files, which could lead to proof of culpability.
00:36:12.000So that's why those things are happening, it seems to me.
00:36:14.000Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments if you agree.
00:36:17.000But the process of performing the research introduces the risk of sparking an outbreak that would not otherwise have occurred, a concern highlighted by The Intercept last year.
00:37:21.000It's the whole thing is ridden with risk and driven by profit.
00:37:24.000That's where systemic problems underwrite the practical realities of potentially what caused this pandemic.
00:37:31.000And also, I think more generally, warped ideologies within pharmacology.
00:37:36.000It shouldn't How about incorporating someone other than self-contained regulatory bodies into the mix, into the conversation, into the process?
00:37:41.000Wouldn't you like a say in whether this happens?
00:38:11.000Even with the best of intentions, which I don't think they have, scientists can serve as vectors for the viruses they hunt.
00:38:16.000And as a result, their work may put everyone else's lives on the line along with their own.
00:38:20.000The new grant proposes to collect samples of viruses from wildlife and then rapidly supply viral sequences and isolates for use in vaccine and therapeutic development.
00:38:51.000It's disturbing that additional funding continues to be awarded for the same high-risk research that may have caused the current pandemic before there's been a national investigation of the origin of the current pandemic.
00:39:01.000If you've only just had a pandemic, don't cause another one, said Richard E. Bright, a molecular biologist with the Waxman Institute at Rutgers University, referring to EcoHealth's multiple ongoing grants.
00:39:12.000It is disturbing that additional funding continues to be awarded to a contractor that the NIH has reported to have repeatedly and seriously violated contractual terms and conditions of a grant.
00:39:22.000If you keep violating a contract, don't give them any more contracts.
00:39:24.000The lack of specific lab records pinpointing a specific accident or mutation that led to the emergence of the novel coronavirus has been used as evidence to discount the possibility of a lab origin, but without access to the records in question, such evidence is unattainable.
00:39:40.000You've got no evidence at all that I've done a poo down my pants!
00:39:43.000Would you mind if I had a look in your pants?
00:39:48.000In early February 2020, many of the scientists who today are the most vocal advocates of a natural origin theory joined a conference call with Dr. Anthony Fauci.
00:40:00.000Ahead of the call, and in notes afterwards, they expressed varying degrees of concern that the virus may have originated in a lab.
00:40:05.000Fauci and Collins, who controlled a large portion of the global funding streams for scientific research, discouraged the pursuit of the theory.
00:40:18.000What have they got to lose as scientists thoroughly investigating what would seem to be one of the most significant areas of scientific inquiry in modern memory?
00:40:28.000Vanity Fair reported in June of last year that Daszak personally organized a February 2020 statement signed by 27 scientists and published in the influential British medical journal The Lancet.
00:40:38.000Almost as if he had a vested interest in one particular outcome and one particular narrative, which, for a while, became the dominant narrative.
00:40:45.000At the beginning, you might not remember this anymore, at the beginning of the pandemic, you literally couldn't say this.
00:40:50.000I know I'm saying this with some little dumb Wikipedia thing below me right now.
00:40:53.000If you're watching it on YouTube, watch your Rumble.
00:41:07.000Is it also possible that you're protecting corporate and financial interests at a global level and that you have alliances between big tech, big business, big media and government?
00:41:26.000The statement which deplored the lab leak idea as a conspiracy theory included the signatures of six scientists who had either worked at or being funded by EcoHealth Alliance, conflicts along
00:41:36.000with DASIC's ties to the Wuhan lab were not disclosed. We should tell you by the way that we all work
00:41:41.000at that lab and six of us are funded by that lab but here's our opinion, our unbiased opinion.
00:41:47.000It's not coming from that lab, it's coming from that stinking dirty little wet market.
00:41:51.000The Lemphia report published in Vanity Fair based on dozens of interviews and more than a hundred thousand leaked internal documents detailed how EcoHealth operated in a world of murky grant agreements, flimsy oversight, and the pursuit of government funds for scientific advancement, in part by pitching research of steeply escalating risks.
00:42:09.000Well, whether it's steeply escalating risk, murky grant agreements, or flimsy oversights, the EcoHealth Alliance is the company you want in control of very, very risky, bad coronavirus pandemic-causing, potentially, research.
00:44:34.000Well, young Putin always has to be observed carefully, because you never know when he would cast a strike on YouTube, for example, with his misinterpretation of the current situation around Ivermectin.
00:45:29.000But you could see that he might have been a little bit corruptio, but we'll show you him in a minute, because at the moment we just want to do a little bit more examination of that story, because Gareth's done a bit of research, haven't you Gareth?
00:45:38.000You're the producer of the show in many respects.
00:45:41.000So tell me what you've done with regards to research.
00:45:44.000We were going to focus a little bit on Fauci and Daszak and their relationship.
00:45:50.000Daszak, obviously head of EcoHealth Alliance, who we just talked about in the video.
00:45:55.000So obviously we spoke last week as well about Facebook Mark Zuckerberg's relationship with Fauci over the pandemic, literally writing emails to him.
00:46:02.000So we kind of established a connection between We'll end that very quickly, very quickly.
00:46:41.000Fauci answered alleging a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists determined the virus totally consistent with the jump of a species from animal to a human.
00:46:49.000The next day, Daszak reportedly emailed Fauci to thank him for publicly standing up and stating that the scientific evidence supports a natural origin for COVID, sorry, from a bat to human spillover, not a lab release from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
00:47:04.000But as we know, also for The Intercept, in early February 2020, many of the scientists who today are the most vocal advocates of a natural origin theory joined the conference call with Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins ahead of the call and in notes
00:47:18.000afterwards they expressed varying degrees of concern that the virus may have originated in a lab. Fauci and
00:47:23.000Collins who controlled a large portion of the global funding streams for scientific research discouraged
00:47:28.000the pursuit of the theory. So yeah there's something going on there Russ. There is and in our
00:47:33.000conversation with Alina Chan the microbiologist she talks in some depth about the way that
00:47:39.000the narrative has been manipulated by the media. Fauci's collusion and I mean she like it's
00:47:45.000pretty good because obviously she's a scientist and in some areas she agrees with the existing
00:48:42.000Almost like I'm some sort of Shirley Temple figure, some sort of nitwit, some sort of just front man for all of this that never does any work, just spends all his time worrying about whether he's got a denim shirt with some nice embroidery on it and how his hair looks.
00:50:36.000In California, Louisiana and Washington D.C., mandated vaccines, those states mandated vaccines for all school children, even ones what couldn't afford shoes and socks, says that in brackets.
00:50:47.000Over 84 million people would have been required to get a vaccine if Biden's mandate went ahead.
00:51:50.000Okay, so would you now, Gareth, having seen what genuine research looks like from the renegade master, would you like to see Alina Chan, calls herself a scientist, not to the level you've just witnessed, more of a hobbyist.
00:52:04.000You've not managed to do this as well, have you?
00:52:07.000I've done an interview with her earlier.
00:53:39.000If the next person who speaks is not a microbiologist from, you know, Boston, from Massachusetts, right from the East Coast where the Puritans first laid out the American Dream, then my name is not Ol' Rusty Boots.
00:53:56.000Unfortunately, we've seen a lot of misinformation being spread by the central and left-leaning media in recent months.
00:54:02.000So for example, you might have seen like CNN interviews or The Guardian claiming that two recent studies showed that there were infected animals at the market.
00:54:11.000So this couldn't be anything further from the truth.
00:54:12.000There were no infected animals at that market.
00:54:14.000None of the animal samples there tested positive for the virus.
00:54:19.000And when the Chinese CDC appeared at that market on January 1st, 2020, they did not find any live animals.
00:54:27.000So it's very problematic that this sort of False information is being spread by the media that most people trust.
00:54:35.000Ought there be more insistence on transparency regarding such complex and potentially dangerous issues?
00:54:44.000Does it not seem that as people like even Anthony Fauci have somehow supported one set of data over others and pushed one narrative and prevented actively the idea of a lab leak theory being properly investigated.
00:55:04.000For example, those early communications with people that put forward the lab leak theory that were sort of quashed.
00:55:11.000And I feel like that there was, if not a cover up, certainly curation of the data.
00:55:18.000Yeah, so as many of your viewers probably know, the top scientific leaders, Dr. Fauci, and even in the U.S.
00:55:26.000and the U.K., they had this private teleconference call in early 2020, and they were really worried that this pandemic might have started from a virus that was accidentally enhanced in a lab.
00:55:37.000And they were worried that that research might have been co-funded by the U.S.
00:55:42.000through the NIH or through the Wellcome Trust.
00:55:44.000So they On that call, they were really worried.
00:55:49.000But two days later, the people who were worried about lab origin were trying to shut down other scientists by saying, no, we know that this wasn't genetically engineered.
00:55:56.000And then soon they put out this paper saying that, yeah, we can, based on the science, we can say that this was not from a lab.
00:56:04.000And in emails that were, you know, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, through Republican transcripts, they showed that these leaders, these scientific leaders, they were really worried about even the idea that this may have come accidentally from a lab.
00:56:18.000So they were doing everything they could, citing this paper that the teleconference call produced, again and again to the media, trying to tell people that the science is settled.
00:59:56.000Usually when there's been a crossover from the natural world to the human world, even though we are part of the natural world, that's the way I see it, I don't know about you, there's normally some telltale signs.
01:00:05.000Like, say in France, they've got now that dog all covered in bubble wrap.
01:08:21.000You're going to have to stay with me on Stay Free AF.
01:08:24.000You're going to have to stay... If you're not a member of Stay Free AF, you just have to make a small stipend to me, and we give that... No, no, we don't give that to drug addicts.
01:08:33.000Drug Addicts, that's the merchandise that you buy.
01:09:29.000I've told you a minute ago, remember, how a whole model of reality is a construct and how it's all reality passes through human consciousness.
01:10:13.000He talks about the relationship between order and chaos.
01:10:15.000We are living within a corrupted order.
01:10:17.000We need to embrace, at some point, chaos.
01:10:20.000Of course, it's risky to embrace chaos.
01:10:22.000You might not be able to find your page, unless you meticulously plan when you're going to look at it.
01:10:27.000This is why, and this is written by, wait a sec, Robert A. Johnson, who's a Jungian analyst, why we need to incorporate, and that means bring into the body, Dionysian energy.
01:10:36.000The energy of wine, the energy of ecstasy, the energy of revelry.
01:11:17.000The collective human psyche needed to suppress the irrational before it got completely out of hand because cults of mad bacchanalia were emerging out of the worship of Dionysus.
01:11:25.000Carnality, sex, murder, all sorts of craziness.
01:11:29.000In order to nurture the rational, this had to be repressed.
01:11:32.000As greatly as I feel the loss of Dionysus, says the writer, I also believe that the Dionysus ethic had continued to prevail.
01:11:39.000We would never have achieved the discipline we needed to make the progress which our scientific, rational culture has produced, i.e.
01:11:45.000medicine, technology, all these great advantages that the rational, patriarchal, some would argue, systems have delivered to us, but sometimes at the cost of the divine and sacred feminine, as is found across the spectrum of genders.
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