Stay Free - Russel Brand - Stay Free with Russell Brand #011 - Pfizer - They Admitted It!

00:00:00.000 I'm going to go ahead and get you out of here.

00:00:26.000 I'm going to get you out of here.

00:12:53.000 Brought to you by Pfizer.

00:12:55.000 I'm gonna lose you.

00:12:56.000 In this video, you're going to see the student service.

00:13:14.000 Hello and welcome to Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:13:17.000 Hare Krishna.

00:13:19.000 Namaste.

00:13:20.000 As-salamu alaykum.

00:13:21.000 Hallelujah.

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00:13:23.000 Shalom.

00:13:24.000 And secular greetings also.

00:13:26.000 Wherever you're from, wherever you believe in, you are welcome here.

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00:13:52.000 The theme of today's show is of course Pfizer.

00:13:56.000 They admitted it.

00:13:57.000 We saw a Pfizer exec under a degree of scrutiny, or at least questioning, admit that they never tested transmission efficacy with the Pfizer vaccine trials.

00:14:10.000 I mean, isn't that the most extraordinary thing?

00:14:14.000 After for a couple of years hearing that if you're an unvaccinated person that you are irresponsible, I believe Joe Biden, for example, said this Is a pandemic of the unvaccinated, right?

00:14:28.000 We'll be checking in with that in a little moment.

00:14:28.000 Can you remember that?

00:14:31.000 It's for me an extraordinary day where so many issues coalesce around this.

00:14:37.000 The ability of the media to control a narrative, like for example, are you seeing anywhere on CNN, MSNBC, maybe on Fox?

00:14:46.000 Let me know where you're seeing it because we don't tend to watch that stuff too much.

00:14:48.000 On the BBC, In mainstream newspapers, are you seeing them saying, yeah, okay, hey, listen, we misrepresented the efficacy of vaccines?

00:14:57.000 If you're not, you have to ask yourself why, because they were pretty keen to spend taxpayer money on advertising those campaigns.

00:15:06.000 Stop the spread if you're... watch out for your... I mean, it was at a point where it was tantamount To kicking a grandmother into a ditch to not be vaccinated every hour on the hour.

00:15:19.000 So we're going to be covering that in some depth.

00:15:21.000 Also in our main story today, we're talking about billionaire bunkers.

00:15:25.000 Are the billionaire class preparing for Armageddon?

00:15:29.000 And is it possible that what most people consider to be crises, i.e.

00:15:32.000 the economic crash, the pandemic and potentially even nuclear war, for an elite strata of society are actually opportunities?

00:15:41.000 Comment on that as well.

00:15:42.000 We'll be talking to the brilliant author Douglas Rushkoff as well about the billionaire bunker class.

00:15:49.000 And live in the studio is the brilliant philosopher Brad Evans.

00:15:52.000 He's a professor of violence.

00:15:54.000 He's a fantastic academic.

00:15:56.000 But let's get us started with a little bit A little bit of normal news and see if we can tell if these things are pointless distractions or whether or not they're just downright lies.

00:16:07.000 Joining me in the studio as always is Gareth Roy.

00:16:11.000 Hello Russell.

00:16:12.000 Do you feel ready to do some news?

00:16:12.000 Hello mate.

00:16:14.000 Yeah, about as ever I think.

00:16:16.000 Do you feel ready to blast some brass?

00:16:18.000 Nope.

00:16:20.000 We've been talking for a while about Gareth is, as well as a great producer, able to bring together a variety of news stories, anti-establishment, anti-big business, anti-media stories and present them in a way that's not too hysterical and is usually underwritten by brilliant research.

00:16:37.000 Gareth likes to Blast a lungful right down a French horn.

00:16:41.000 Who among us doesn't?

00:16:42.000 Perhaps by the end of the show, if there's enough goodwill in the chat, we'll encourage Gareth to give the old, that curly golden little horn a blast.

00:16:53.000 But before that, let's do some news.

00:16:57.000 Isaiah Executive admits COVID vaccine was never tested on preventing transmissions.

00:17:03.000 Oh wow, that's some news.

00:17:04.000 We'll go into that in some depth.

00:17:07.000 Gareth, what?

00:17:08.000 Oh no, I've got another news story.

00:17:11.000 Biden says no one should be in jail for just possessing marijuana.

00:17:15.000 The good news is that no one is in jail for just possessing marijuana.

00:17:19.000 They checked.

00:17:20.000 So that's a problem solved there that didn't exist.

00:17:24.000 I wonder what other imaginary problems Joe Biden could solve this week.

00:17:29.000 Hopefully he could solve the problem of people not being willing to play the French horn on command.

00:17:35.000 That's something that we can address right within our own environment.

00:17:38.000 Have you got a news story for us, Gal?

00:17:41.000 Oh yeah, thanks.

00:17:42.000 Yeah, so Gazprom say NATO mine destroyer was found at Nord Stream 1 in 2015.

00:17:46.000 So obviously this is the ongoing mystery around Nord Stream 2.

00:17:53.000 The explosions that happened, I think, about a week ago.

00:17:55.000 And now Gazprom are saying that Nord Stream 1, they'd found a mine basically in 2015.

00:18:00.000 Didn't explode, but they found it there anyway.

00:18:02.000 So there was a mine there?

00:18:04.000 So people had put mines there previously?

00:18:06.000 A NATO mine. 0.84

00:18:08.000 It's got NATO written on it?

00:18:10.000 I don't know about it.

00:18:12.000 Oh, because you found a NATO mine there from 2015 and now it's just blown up, you automatically assume that because it'd give us an economic advantage that we're somehow behind it.

00:18:22.000 That's the story, is it?

00:18:23.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:18:24.000 Mind you, they said it was a NATO device called the Seafox.

00:18:27.000 It was retrieved from a depth of around 40 metres and made safe.

00:18:31.000 Seafox?

00:18:32.000 I know, Seafox.

00:18:33.000 Childish.

00:18:34.000 So, at the same time of this, Nord Stream operators have said they were unable to inspect the damaged sections because of restrictions imposed by Danish and Swedish authorities.

00:18:42.000 Nord Stream AG, operator of the older Nord Stream 1 pipeline, said they've been told by Danish authorities that receiving the necessary permits to carry out an inspection could take over 20 working days.

00:18:52.000 When did Danish authorities start stepping up?

00:18:55.000 Well, I guess what it is, is that that pipeline goes under a lot of people's, um, you know, areas.

00:19:00.000 Lives.

00:19:00.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:01.000 Lives and countries.

00:19:02.000 So lots of different countries are getting involved, but, um, yeah, Nord Stream AG are unable to inspect it at the moment, so it seems like we might never know.

00:19:12.000 Go inside yourself right now and think, what do you think happened with that Nord Stream pipeline?

00:19:16.000 Do you think it just legitimately blew up?

00:19:18.000 Do you think the Russians blew it up?

00:19:20.000 Do you think it was blown up by special forces?

00:19:22.000 Whose agenda does it advance? 0.84

00:19:24.000 Do you know who I'd like to talk to?

00:19:25.000 Jocko Willink, Navy SEAL.

00:19:27.000 Well, let me tell you this by fair, just because this might swing your opinion one way.

00:19:32.000 It swings about a bit, in my opinion.

00:19:34.000 A 2019 Pentagon-funded study from the RAND Corporation on how best to exploit Russia's economic, political and military vulnerabilities and anxieties.

00:19:43.000 Don't know why you'd want to exploit those.

00:19:45.000 It should be nice to people if they're anxious.

00:19:47.000 Exactly.

00:19:48.000 ...included a recommendation to reduce Russian natural gas exports and hinder pipeline expansions.

00:19:55.000 The study noted that a first step would involve stopping Nord Stream 2 and that natural gas from the United States and Australia could provide a substitute.

00:20:02.000 This was Pentagon funded in 2019.

00:20:05.000 So again, do you think, who do we think might have been culpable?

00:20:09.000 I think that's just a coincidence.

00:20:10.000 One thing I've learned while being alive on this planet is that you can trust big government in collusion with corporations.

00:20:19.000 They never lie or manipulate and they don't plunder the world in pursuit of resources.

00:20:25.000 That's just one of the things I've watched unfold over time.

00:20:30.000 Elon Musk denies he spoke to Putin about Ukraine war.

00:20:34.000 Tulsi Gabbard quits Democratic Party saying that it's an elitist cabal of warmongers.

00:20:39.000 Let's have a look at Tulsi Gabbard saying just that.

00:20:43.000 I can no longer remain in today's Democratic Party that's under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers who are driven by cowardly wokeness.

00:20:54.000 Oh wow, that's a pretty harsh condemnation.

00:20:57.000 It makes you wonder, what did she think she was joining when she joined the Democratic Party?

00:21:02.000 Because they've been doing that for a while, haven't they, the old warmongering?

00:21:08.000 Yeah, warmongering has always been sort of part and parcel of it, I suppose.

00:21:11.000 You do need to monger them. 0.80

00:21:12.000 We've got a Chris Hedges who we love, quote from Chris Hedges, one of his articles earlier

00:21:16.000 in the year, War mongering by the Democrats always comes wrapped in the

00:21:19.000 mantle of democracy, freedom and human rights, making Democrats the more effective sales 0.73

00:21:23.000 people for war.

00:21:25.000 Democrats eagerly lined up behind George W. Bush during the calls to invade Afghanistan

00:21:28.000 and Iraq in the name of humanitarian intervention and liberating the women of Afghanistan who 0.99

00:21:34.000 would spend the next two decades living in terror, burying family members and at times

00:21:39.000 Even when Democrats, including Barack Obama, criticized the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq while running for office, they steadfastly voted to fund the wars to support our troops once elected.

00:21:48.000 Now House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says an assault on Ukraine is an assault on democracy.

00:21:52.000 The same argument Democrats clung to a half century ago while launching and expanding the disastrous war in Vietnam.

00:21:58.000 So there's a history for it, Ross.

00:22:00.000 Yeah, there's been a lot of wars.

00:22:02.000 At this point it's difficult to continue to believe that the Democratic Party is a party of peace.

00:22:09.000 Even though you know that I'm not like a pro-Republican guy, what I believe in, and what I hope we can continue to discuss in this space, and obviously necessarily spaces beyond it, ...is the possibility of new systems of government where our opinions and views are reflected.

00:22:27.000 True democracy.

00:22:29.000 A new democracy.

00:22:30.000 The ability to control your own life as an individual, to live according to your own values, free from oppression, not living just as some kind of node dominated and controlled by centralized forces that you don't interact with.

00:22:42.000 But that's, you know, that would be nice.

00:22:44.000 Good news though...

00:22:46.000 King Charles III's coronation day is confirmed.

00:22:49.000 What's amazing, if you're a British person, is I keep talking about like the... because we're all still sort of like, oh wow, the Queen's there.

00:22:55.000 That's mental.

00:22:56.000 The Queen was just always there. 0.99

00:22:57.000 She was an omnipresent force.

00:22:59.000 You could almost believe this person was never going to die.

00:23:01.000 Now she has died.

00:23:02.000 People en masse are like, Do you even need a monarchy, really, actually?

00:23:06.000 Do you need a king and queen? 0.83

00:23:07.000 And they're sort of slowly realising it.

00:23:09.000 This coronation, it's just going to be a very modest, low-key coronation.

00:23:14.000 They're trying to make it like it's a coronation of the people.

00:23:17.000 But it's very difficult to frame a king getting a golden hat put on his head as, like, something that's just, hey, I'm down with the people.

00:23:25.000 We're doing it down the village hall.

00:23:26.000 My coronation's on the street.

00:23:28.000 Doing a little town hall or something like that.

00:23:31.000 Yeah, this is just a low-key coronation, sort of like if you're getting married for the third or fourth time.

00:23:37.000 At this point, you know, we're just doing it pretty casual.

00:23:39.000 Yeah, so that coronation, pretty low-key.

00:23:43.000 A man took magic mushrooms and then assaulted United Flight Attendants, so maybe not everyone who takes magic mushrooms is immediately introduced to a realm of limitless oneness, where separation becomes revealed to be an illusion.

00:23:59.000 Where even your own ego starts to appear like a system that you've constructed in order to... just to hold yourself together.

00:24:07.000 Oh my God, nothing's real but love.

00:24:08.000 Where's my peanuts?

00:24:09.000 I said gin and tonic!

00:24:10.000 Let me out of here! 1.00

00:24:11.000 So it's, uh, yeah, it's not 100% reliable.

00:24:13.000 There needs to be more context here, though.

00:24:15.000 Right, first of all, how long did it take?

00:24:17.000 Like, they don't even include anything about the passage of time here.

00:24:20.000 Man took magic mushrooms, what, and then immediately assaulted someone, did he?

00:24:24.000 Was it that immediate?

00:24:25.000 Right, could have been five years later.

00:24:26.000 Could have been five years later.

00:24:28.000 Was the United Flight Attendant on a plane?

00:24:31.000 Or was it just that that person had a job and it happened to be that?

00:24:34.000 Unhand me! 0.96

00:24:36.000 I'm a United Flight Attendant!

00:24:38.000 Get out of my garden, then! 1.00

00:24:39.000 Exactly.

00:24:40.000 Right, we don't know the context.

00:24:41.000 We don't know the context.

00:24:42.000 I've been... Maybe this guy's a hero.

00:24:44.000 You're right, actually.

00:24:45.000 He's a psychedelic hero.

00:24:47.000 I was once ejected from an aeroplane, of course, simply for having my feet up.

00:24:52.000 And they stopped the plane.

00:24:53.000 I mean, it was still on the tarmac.

00:24:54.000 I hadn't taken off yet.

00:24:55.000 They stopped the plane and said, get off.

00:24:57.000 And I tried to appeal to the other passengers.

00:24:59.000 This was before there had been some significant terror attacks that sort of changed the general vibe on planes.

00:25:04.000 No, I went, look, if we all stand together here and refuse to let me throw... Boo!

00:25:08.000 Get off! 0.99

00:25:09.000 No, wait, sir, get off!

00:25:11.000 We'll hear you after!

00:25:12.000 If we can all just come together as one unit, they can't throw me off, is it?

00:25:15.000 And they, yeah, they... Yeah.

00:25:17.000 Had you caused a bit of strife beforehand?

00:25:19.000 Was that the first thing you did?

00:25:21.000 Well, actually, no.

00:25:21.000 Of course, I tried to start so for Charles.

00:25:26.000 I wasn't a popular passenger by that point anyway, to tell you the truth.

00:25:29.000 All right, shall we get into this Pfizer story in some detail?

00:25:32.000 Here is the Dutch politician Rob Roos questioning the EU, the Pfizer official.

00:25:41.000 What's her name?

00:25:41.000 Jane Small, I think she's called.

00:25:43.000 Here she is, just sort of admitting publicly that they never even trialled the vaccine for transmission.

00:25:49.000 Have a look.

00:25:50.000 Was the Pfizer Covid vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market?

00:26:02.000 If not, please say it clearly.

00:26:05.000 Um, regarding the question around, um, did we know about stopping humanisation before, um, it's entered the market?

00:26:12.000 No.

00:26:12.000 Uh, these, uh... Why are you laughing about that?

00:26:15.000 Embarrassed?

00:26:17.000 No!

00:26:17.000 We didn't test it!

00:26:19.000 You know, we had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place.

00:26:24.000 Ooh, the speed of science is so fast!

00:26:27.000 That's not a phrase, is it?

00:26:28.000 Let's be honest.

00:26:29.000 Just invented that.

00:26:30.000 Lie with science in order to justify some pretty shoddy clinical trials there.

00:26:35.000 Oh, the speed of science?

00:26:36.000 What?

00:26:37.000 Hang on, that isn't a phrase.

00:26:38.000 No, you can't just say stuff like that.

00:26:40.000 We must have tested five mice!

00:26:43.000 Yeah, the speed of science is not objectively something that you can just throw out there.

00:26:47.000 Now, I think the thing that bothers me most about these revelations is the kind of information we were given at the start of the pandemic era.

00:26:57.000 A number of people that really went out on a limb.

00:26:59.000 Let's start with Joe Biden saying, this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

00:27:06.000 You're sort of invited to forget that these things ever happened.

00:27:09.000 What they want is for us to just put it behind us, that there was no rhetoric around it, that there was no persuasion, that there were no nudges.

00:27:17.000 There was no BF Skinner style behavioralist, get it, get it, blame, shame.

00:27:22.000 All sorts of resources were used.

00:27:23.000 Here's Joe Biden.

00:27:25.000 Because what is happening in America right now is a pandemic, a pandemic of the unvaccinated. 0.93

00:27:30.000 Let me say that again.

00:27:32.000 It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. 0.93

00:27:35.000 Misinformation, misinformation now because it plainly, or at least if it does prevent spread, that's just a coincidence because it wasn't tested.

00:27:45.000 I don't I never pass up the opportunity to see Brian Stelter making

00:27:51.000 some claims.

00:27:52.000 Like, here's Brian Stelter talking about vaccine hesitancy, which was a phrase for a while,

00:27:58.000 because it was assumed that if you were not taking a vaccine, there must be some weird

00:28:02.000 reason for it.

00:28:03.000 Here, Brian Stelter unpacks those potential reasons.

00:28:05.000 I count five Fs that contributed to vaccine rejection.

00:28:10.000 Facebook?

00:28:11.000 I've reduced it all to apps!

00:28:12.000 I've taken a little bit of time, like five fruits a day!

00:28:16.000 Fox, falsehoods, faith, and fear. 0.99

00:28:20.000 In the words of this new UC research paper... Now, no fucking evidence! 0.99

00:28:24.000 Pharmaceutical miscalculations! 0.99

00:28:27.000 Lack of trials!

00:28:27.000 You can go through the whole alphabet now!

00:28:29.000 That's sort of the confidence of it.

00:28:31.000 You all saw the famous Rachel Maddow clip.

00:28:34.000 For me, this is bigger than the potential divisions in American politics and American media between apparently liberal people and apparently conservative people.

00:28:44.000 I don't think we can fetishize that division anymore.

00:28:48.000 I think we have to look at the evident alliance between corporations, the state, Global bodies that are able to make suggestions at scale that are then disseminated through media.

00:29:00.000 This is like at the time of this when we had to be very very careful on YouTube for example we got a YouTube strike for like a pretty minor transgression that we sort of self-corrected but you weren't able to talk about this kind of stuff and we were saying then This shouldn't be something about condemnation.

00:29:16.000 People have got different types of lives.

00:29:18.000 People have different kinds of considerations.

00:29:20.000 And one of them was, people might be really concerned about elderly relatives.

00:29:24.000 People might be getting vaccinated because they're really concerned about elderly relatives, or not getting vaccinated because they've had terrible experiences with authority all their life.

00:29:33.000 And it was really used as an opportunity to divide people.

00:29:35.000 And something like COVID passports now, well, what was that about?

00:29:40.000 What possible benefit is there To a COVID passport.

00:29:44.000 Why are there travel restrictions placed on unvaccinated people when we cannot demonstrate that the vaccine stops the spread?

00:29:53.000 Now all of those questions that were emerging at that time have a lot more legitimacy.

00:29:59.000 Let me know in the comments, let me know in the chat what you think about it.

00:30:03.000 What do you think about it now, Gareth?

00:30:05.000 Well, it's tricky.

00:30:06.000 I mean, you know, when it comes to stopping the spread, I suppose the fact is, I mean, even the Guardian wrote here in October 21, people who are fully vaccinated against COVID yet catch the virus are just as infectious to others in their household as infected, unvaccinated people, research suggests.

00:30:20.000 So, I guess, you know, we were never at a point where it did actually stop the spread.

00:30:25.000 There is some evidence as to whether it reduces the spread or not, but I guess that's not the point.

00:30:29.000 That's not what we were being told and that's not what so many decisions were apparently made on the basis of.

00:30:35.000 How can you make any argument now that it was anything other than an opportunity to generate profit and an opportunity to introduce regulation?

00:30:44.000 It's difficult to make any argument beyond that.

00:30:47.000 Should we just have a little look at Don Lemon as well and his rigid certainty that they were doing the right thing and his attitude towards people that were hesitant or cynical about vaccination?

00:30:58.000 I think we have to stop coddling people when it comes to this and the vaccine, saying, oh, you can't shame them. 1.00

00:31:05.000 You can't call them stupid. 1.00

00:31:06.000 You can't call them silly. 1.00

00:31:07.000 Yes, they are. 0.96

00:31:08.000 It's just not a helpful attitude to have.

00:31:12.000 Not on the news either.

00:31:14.000 Yeah, it's that, the news.

00:31:15.000 It is the news.

00:31:15.000 That's the actual news.

00:31:17.000 Shame people.

00:31:18.000 You can't use shame as a social tool.

00:31:22.000 Our next story, shame's good now.

00:31:25.000 You don't look very nice in that hat! 1.00

00:31:27.000 Your genitals are not the right shape! 1.00

00:31:29.000 That can't be the position that the news takes on these kind of issues. 0.97

00:31:34.000 All right, so we're going to look now in more depth at the relationship between elitism, the introduction of crisis, and the people that suffer the consequences of crises more Partially.

00:31:48.000 We've got a fantastic story.

00:31:50.000 Well, it's not necessarily fantastic if you don't want to die in an apocalypse in hideous pain, but billionaire bunkers is big business now.

00:31:58.000 Just to remind you, before we look at this story about billionaire bunkers and a mental advertisement for them, I'll just remind you that billionaires added five trillion to their fortunes during the pandemic.

00:32:08.000 The world's richest 10 people saw their collective wealth more than double, shooting up 1.3 Here's the news.

00:32:14.000 a day and now billionaire bunkers are becoming more popular.

00:32:19.000 What does it suggest? What's happening? Is it possible that even the

00:32:24.000 most extreme crisis imaginable, nuclear Armageddon, could potentially be evaded

00:32:30.000 by the world's most powerful interests? Here's the news. No, here's the

00:32:34.000 effing news.

00:32:41.000 On the brink of Armageddon, Bill Gates and his buddies are buying up bunkers.

00:32:47.000 Do they know something we don't know?

00:32:49.000 Is this the new pandemic?

00:32:51.000 Armageddon now!

00:32:54.000 Now let's get into this story.

00:32:55.000 Do you think that crises are being used to further impecuniate, if that's a word, poor people and enhance the lives of rich and powerful institutions and groups?

00:33:07.000 Like the 2008 stock market crash was ultimately beneficial for the financial industry.

00:33:12.000 The pandemic was ultimately beneficial for the most powerful people in the world.

00:33:16.000 The richest people in the world Got richer, so for some institutions it wasn't a crisis at all.

00:33:23.000 Is it conceivable that even nuclear Armageddon could be part of a crisis response solution mentality?

00:33:30.000 Firstly, let's have a look at some of these bunkers that are available for Bill Gates and his billionaire buddies. 0.87

00:33:36.000 I've got to tell you, they're actually fucking lovely.

00:33:39.000 No one knows exactly what the future has in store. 0.95

00:33:42.000 Don't they?

00:33:43.000 But one startup company says avoiding threats from any potential natural disasters, viruses, and wars doesn't have to come at the expense of your comfort.

00:33:53.000 Yeah, why should I give up my comfort just because there's a virus and a nuclear war?

00:33:59.000 I should be able to relax!

00:34:01.000 Another few million people dead.

00:34:03.000 Seals on the telly.

00:34:04.000 Oh, repeats again.

00:34:06.000 Why is no one making any new content?

00:34:10.000 No.

00:34:11.000 I suppose what this makes me feel is that there are different strata of society.

00:34:21.000 That's no surprise, we knew that already.

00:34:23.000 Even anyone who lives modestly well is still doing better than someone in a homeless shelter or sleeping on the street, so I accept that there are different strata of society.

00:34:31.000 But at a time when it seems possible that we could radically revise the way we live, look at alternative systems where we empower communities differently, to double down on elitism, to double down on the idea that we should create a class of individuals that are free from the consequences of the way that society is sliding, seems to me to be distasteful.

00:34:53.000 So, look, you can just literally seal yourself off from the world.

00:34:56.000 Now, in a way, this is already happening.

00:34:58.000 I have a much better lifestyle than a lot of people.

00:35:00.000 which will say each bunker is air and gas tight.

00:35:03.000 So you can just literally seal yourself off from the world.

00:35:07.000 Now, in a way, this is already happening.

00:35:09.000 I have a much better lifestyle than a lot of people.

00:35:12.000 I recognize that.

00:35:13.000 But the idea that our plan for the future ought to be to create citadels for the super rich

00:35:19.000 at a point in history where really what's required is a new model altogether is almost beyond parody

00:35:27.000 and is certainly grotesque.

00:35:28.000 Allowing those inside to be completely cut off from the atmosphere outside for up to a month.

00:35:33.000 What are you gonna do, though, after a month?

00:35:35.000 Oh, hello, everybody!

00:35:37.000 Listen, does anybody know where I can get some rainwater?

00:35:39.000 Hey, what are you doing with that bone sword?

00:35:42.000 The shelters are also armed with the technology to make their own water, air, and energy, while coming with the chicest amenities.

00:35:49.000 In a way, that's already happening.

00:35:52.000 If you think, during the pandemic, I think one of the things that many people felt is that ordinary people were being forced to live by a lot of restrictive regulations.

00:36:00.000 You can't leave your house, you must wear a mask, you must take certain medications.

00:36:03.000 And I think there was a strong sense that that wasn't affecting everybody in the same way, that some people were travelling around privately, still going to gatherings.

00:36:10.000 I mean, this isn't hypothetical.

00:36:11.000 We know in our country, the UK, Prime Minister and high up politicians were literally having parties.

00:36:17.000 We know that in your country, America, the California governor held events.

00:36:19.000 I'm saying that the pandemic was clearly a divisive time that negatively impacted certain sectors of society more than others.

00:36:27.000 Let me know if you agree with that in the comments.

00:36:29.000 Let me know if you agree in the chat.

00:36:30.000 Whatever is happening in the world outside, you can rest easy.

00:36:35.000 What type of moral center is implied by the statement, no matter what's going on in the world outside, you can rest easy?

00:36:45.000 Oh, look at that!

00:36:46.000 Another child dying of radiation sickness.

00:36:48.000 The gardener doesn't look well.

00:36:50.000 Oh, look at that!

00:36:51.000 Algeria just sunk into the sea.

00:36:53.000 Like, you can't rest easy.

00:36:55.000 What kind of person are you?

00:36:56.000 If you can tolerate and cope with Armageddon just because you've got a decent wine cellar, And live fully in times of tranquility and in times of unrest.

00:37:07.000 He's actually literally having a cigar in there. 1.00

00:37:10.000 Ah, fuck him. 1.00

00:37:11.000 Entertain friends and enjoy private time with your family. 1.00

00:37:15.000 Who are these friends you're entertaining?

00:37:16.000 They're all dead!

00:37:17.000 Unless all your friends are super.

00:37:19.000 Oh, look, the Joneses are coming by.

00:37:21.000 Well, they seem to have a weird look on their faces, though, as they stagger blindly towards the front door, screaming the word brains.

00:37:29.000 Brains!

00:37:30.000 Again and again.

00:37:31.000 And that's for private time with your family.

00:37:33.000 That's all you've got now.

00:37:34.000 You're 24-7 in your luxury prison staring at your family who you hate because they've got no morals.

00:37:41.000 Beautifully appointed and entirely bespoke.

00:37:44.000 What this feels like to me is that the most powerful interests in the world are willing to crash the planet knowing they would survive it.

00:37:51.000 And if you think that sounds crazy, look at what they did to the economy.

00:37:53.000 They crashed it knowing that they would be okay.

00:37:56.000 Look at what happened in the pandemic.

00:37:58.000 They locked down a whole planet knowing they would be okay.

00:38:00.000 I'm not suggesting the lockdown wasn't a necessary measure or that the vaccines weren't ultimately helpful.

00:38:05.000 I'm just suggesting that this is a A stratified society where people making the decisions do not suffer the consequences of the decisions that they're making.

00:38:13.000 And now it's taken to a ridiculous extreme. 0.56

00:38:15.000 See that zombie hellscape, son? 0.87

00:38:18.000 That used to be Madrid.

00:38:20.000 Or just savour having a safe place to reflect.

00:38:23.000 What are you gonna reflect on?

00:38:25.000 Ah, well that went well for us.

00:38:26.000 Daddy, was that the right thing to let everyone else die?

00:38:30.000 Let me reflect on that.

00:38:32.000 It was, yeah.

00:38:37.000 These priceless works of art that they've accumulated.

00:38:40.000 Even the value of art is contextual.

00:38:42.000 It's like, these are what human beings have achieved.

00:38:45.000 You can't, like, look at a Matisse or a Picasso knowing that all of the values that art is funded upon are a connection to something sublime and divine.

00:38:52.000 They're all gone now!

00:38:53.000 That's all gone!

00:38:54.000 It's just you!

00:38:55.000 In your mansion!

00:38:56.000 With essentially nothing!

00:38:57.000 Your private gallery keeps your collections in perfect condition.

00:39:02.000 Freedom is the possession of those with courage to defend it. 0.99

00:39:04.000 I don't think what Pericles meant by that is why don't we all bunker down and fuck society. 0.98

00:39:10.000 I don't think classical Greece was founded on every man for himself. 0.99

00:39:14.000 Let's hunker down, bunker down, let's create foundations that fund media and pharmaceutical companies and non-democratic global bodies that infiltrate and interrupt the democratic process.

00:39:26.000 Democracy, I think, was quite important to the Greeks.

00:39:31.000 Wondering if an opedem is in reach for you? 0.97

00:39:33.000 Not really, because they're gonna cost fucking fortune, aren't they? 0.91

00:39:36.000 Well, officials say if you have a net worth of more than 100 million dollars... Wait, is that sarcastic news? 0.97

00:39:42.000 Is that what sarcastic news is?

00:39:43.000 Because look, here's what happened.

00:39:45.000 Billionaires added five trillion to their fortunes during the pandemic.

00:39:48.000 That happened.

00:39:49.000 The world's richest 10 men saw their collective wealth more than double, shooting up by 1.3 billion a day.

00:39:54.000 The ranks of the global ultra high net worth individuals swelled by 46,000 last year to a record 218,000 as the world's richest people benefited from almost an explosion of wealth during the recovery from the pandemic.

00:40:06.000 It makes me wonder if events are being constructed in order to facilitate the capture of wealth.

00:40:13.000 Whether that's something like a foreign war, That allows taxes of ordinary people to ultimately end up in the hands of private military contractors.

00:40:22.000 That's generally what happens.

00:40:23.000 Or a pandemic that enhances the wealth of big tech and big pharma.

00:40:27.000 I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

00:40:28.000 I'm not saying that they planned these kind of things.

00:40:30.000 Let me know in the comments.

00:40:31.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:40:32.000 I'm not saying that.

00:40:33.000 But if a system benefits people up to the point where they can survive a nuclear apocalypse And it ultimately doesn't make any difference because they're at the precipice of an AI revolution where you don't need what would be referred to as a working class anymore, then what's the reason to not have a nuclear war?

00:40:49.000 Usually when we ponder this apocalyptic breakdown, we evolve Sky in it, don't we?

00:40:52.000 The robots realised they didn't need people no more and they might as well have a nuclear war.

00:40:56.000 Well now it's like the billionaires have realised they don't need people anymore and they might as well have a nuclear war.

00:41:01.000 Unseen and untouched.

00:41:04.000 To protect the people we love and the objects we cherish is the most powerful human instinct.

00:41:10.000 It's not, is it?

00:41:11.000 The most powerful human instinct is meant to be to survive and love and I suppose that's a version of survival but sprinkling little bits of bunker-grown basil on your sunny-side up eggs while the rest of society is dying doesn't It doesn't seem like the optimum outcome for human life, does it?

00:41:29.000 Mommy?

00:41:31.000 Daddy?

00:41:31.000 Why's all my friends dead?

00:41:33.000 Well, we sent you to a state-funded school because we wanted you to occasionally meet Mexican people so that you could be woke.

00:41:39.000 But when it came to the crunch, goodbye!

00:41:42.000 Turns out we got a robot to make our eggs now.

00:41:47.000 And in a sense, their economic model can withstand that also.

00:41:54.000 So it's, in a way, a real-life metaphor for what we're already experiencing.

00:41:59.000 There is a culture that is behind a wall.

00:42:01.000 And most of us are kind of trained to believe that that's normal.

00:42:04.000 and acceptable somehow, but it isn't.

00:42:07.000 It's such a peculiar perversion of what we're evolved to live like.

00:42:12.000 It amounts to an abomination.

00:42:13.000 So their bomb shelters are an abomination.

00:42:16.000 And the idea that this is in any way normal or acceptable or could be on the news without provoking a revolution

00:42:23.000 is extraordinary.

00:42:24.000 This is security without sacrifice.

00:42:27.000 Comfort without compromise.

00:42:29.000 Compromise and sacrifice are exactly the values that we need to get in touch with.

00:42:34.000 We have to realize that you can't achieve anything without sacrifice.

00:42:38.000 If you're not willing to sacrifice, you don't have any principles.

00:42:40.000 That's what virtue signaling is.

00:42:42.000 It's principles without sacrifice.

00:42:44.000 I believe in this.

00:42:45.000 Are you willing to give up something for it?

00:42:47.000 No.

00:42:48.000 Sacrifice is a necessity.

00:42:49.000 Until you're willing to sacrifice, you don't have principles.

00:42:52.000 It's one of the questions I level at myself most.

00:42:54.000 How much are you willing to sacrifice?

00:42:55.000 What are you willing to give up?

00:42:56.000 And it actually tears me apart a little bit, how addicted to comfort I am.

00:43:01.000 But compromise and sacrifice are what we need to learn, not what we need to negate.

00:43:05.000 It's their negation that has led us to this peripheral insanity, to this precipice of Armageddon. 0.98

00:43:14.000 Their name of their company, Up-A-Dum, sounds like an idiot saying, sorry I blew up the world. 0.99

00:43:19.000 Up-A-Dum, Up-A-Dum, I blew up your planet. 0.99

00:43:22.000 Up-A-Dum, it's okay, because we can grow those plants under the ground now.

00:43:26.000 Up-A-Dum, it's okay, I scrapped a Picasso from the ashes.

00:43:30.000 And can shell out at least 10 million for a bunker. 0.98

00:43:34.000 Why are the media telling this like it's a normal story about, look at this crazy little thing, rather than, okay, here's clear evidence that society is falling apart and the most powerful people in the world don't give a fuck about you.

00:43:48.000 Because all the people you see on the news, whether it's from an influential perspective or a political perspective or a corporate perspective, They're the sort of people that will be in these bunkers. 0.86

00:43:56.000 I mean, I'm a normal human. 0.99

00:43:57.000 I think, oh shit, you kind of would, wouldn't you? 0.99

00:43:57.000 I'm a person. 0.99

00:44:00.000 That's not the instinct or aspect of our nature we should be cultivating.

00:44:04.000 The news should be saying, listen, we're in real trouble now.

00:44:07.000 Those powerful people in the world are beginning to prepare for the day when viruses and ballistic missiles and environmental threat destroy the planet.

00:44:15.000 So, there's probably something in it.

00:44:18.000 So, is this an amusing news story, or is this a harrowing window into where we are heading?

00:44:23.000 If they're preparing, we should be preparing, but in an entirely different way.

00:44:28.000 But that's just what I think.

00:44:29.000 Why don't you let me know what you think in the chat, in the comments, right now.

00:44:33.000 See you in a moment.

00:44:34.000 Thanks for watching Fox Family's I'm Not Dead. 0.99

00:44:37.000 Now, here's the fucking news. 0.98

00:44:40.000 The point I want to pick up on is the point about sacrifice and compromise. 0.99

00:44:45.000 Like, those are sort of vital values.

00:44:47.000 I find them hard, don't you?

00:44:48.000 You find it hard?

00:44:49.000 Sacrifice, compromise.

00:44:50.000 CrystalDW6471.

00:44:53.000 Hey Russell, I have a huge favour for you.

00:44:55.000 I'm deaf and there isn't any type of captioning option on your broadcast or on Rumble.

00:44:59.000 Hook a sister up. 0.70

00:44:59.000 I'm deaf. 0.70

00:45:00.000 We will.

00:45:01.000 Sorry about that.

00:45:02.000 We'll talk to Rummel directly about closed captions.

00:45:06.000 Is that good speaking?

00:45:07.000 Because I feel like watching the lips is what you need in a time like this.

00:45:11.000 I think you need to hear or be able to see how passionate you are in that room.

00:45:16.000 You're very passionate, don't you?

00:45:17.000 I was just...

00:45:18.000 Looking at you then, through my telly.

00:45:20.000 Yeah.

00:45:20.000 You seem ever so passionate in that room.

00:45:22.000 I really care!

00:45:22.000 Is that the passion room?

00:45:24.000 I can't, that's my passion room.

00:45:26.000 That's where I go there to really express myself and if ever you hear sort of any unusual moans, groans, tapping sounds, that's the sound of me generating passion and you're not going to come in there.

00:45:36.000 Unless you're going to come in there with those lips pursed.

00:45:39.000 And a little bit of brass about yourself.

00:45:42.000 We've got some new Stay Free AF members.

00:45:43.000 Stay Free AF is our membership community where you can stay behind for additional Q&As and you get additional content.

00:45:49.000 Like Wendy and Bert, they've joined up.

00:45:51.000 Kim Lorraine Leach, Robert Winston, the biologist.

00:45:55.000 Welcome, sir.

00:45:56.000 It's good to have you on board.

00:45:58.000 Yannick McCarley, Kristen Brack.

00:45:59.000 We've got some... Wendy and Bert sounds like a kid's TV show or something.

00:46:02.000 It should be anyway.

00:46:03.000 Wendy and Bert.

00:46:04.000 Wendy and Bert.

00:46:05.000 Hey guys, are you gonna get vaccinated?

00:46:07.000 It's your responsibility to- I'M NOT GETTING VACCINATED UNTIL THERE ARE CLINICAL TRIALS THAT DEMONSTRATE THAT IT STOPS THE SPREAD!

00:46:17.000 Um, there's some, uh, people here talking about our, uh, bunker news item there, Wasabi Raptor.

00:46:23.000 Life inside bunkers must be very interesting though.

00:46:26.000 I don't know, they will be.

00:46:27.000 I think it'll be crushing.

00:46:28.000 I- I get sort of bored on holidays, so I don't think I'd do very well In a bunker.

00:46:34.000 And also, Brad Evans, who's coming on later, the philosopher and professor of violence, he's going to talk to us a bit.

00:46:40.000 And I think he'll touch upon the idea that bunker was the term used by the Germans.

00:46:45.000 It was Hitler's phrase, bunker. 0.90

00:46:47.000 And, you know, I don't know if you're aware of where Hitler died.

00:46:50.000 He was in a bunker.

00:46:52.000 That's where it all ended up for Hitler. 0.93

00:46:55.000 Didn't end well, did it?

00:46:56.000 Not for Hitler! 0.93

00:46:57.000 And many others suffered as a result of his schemes and practices, I'd call them.

00:47:03.000 1800s kind of guy.

00:47:04.000 Bunkers would be no good. 1.00

00:47:05.000 One very.

00:47:06.000 Imagine that those at the top encouraged buttons to be pressed, then run away to their bunkers, leaving us all to perish.

00:47:11.000 I, Lou T. I weld bunkers doors shut and barbecue on air vents. 0.90

00:47:16.000 That's an interesting scheme you've got there.

00:47:18.000 A little bit of the old cannibalism going on.

00:47:21.000 And why the hell not?

00:47:22.000 They look nice though, don't they?

00:47:24.000 The bunkers.

00:47:25.000 Well, some of those priceless works of art were appealing, but the context of art is that they are tokens of human excellence.

00:47:32.000 So what is the value of art once humanity has been annihilated?

00:47:37.000 I was thinking of something like Guernica, by Picasso, a painting that demonstrates the horror of war.

00:47:44.000 How would you look at that in a post-apocalyptic world?

00:47:47.000 And what is its value now?

00:47:50.000 Value is its specialness.

00:47:52.000 It's as if something special has been captured and held.

00:47:55.000 So how can you be in your underground art gallery marvelling over Guernica when the world has been torn apart?

00:48:02.000 Also, the billionaires, they would have had staff, wouldn't they?

00:48:04.000 They're not going to do it all themselves.

00:48:06.000 Like Bill Gates, apparently he's rumoured to have lots of these in all his properties.

00:48:09.000 Is he?

00:48:09.000 That's the rumour, that he's got one of these in all his properties.

00:48:12.000 But there's no way Bill Gates is, like, sprinkling that, like, oregano over his salad, is there?

00:48:17.000 He's not doing that himself.

00:48:18.000 He won't be there doing his own eggs with a bit of basil off the windowsill.

00:48:21.000 No chance.

00:48:22.000 No.

00:48:22.000 So it's a real treat, isn't it?

00:48:23.000 If you buy them herbs, you think, yeah, I've really... That's much better pasta.

00:48:27.000 Yeah.

00:48:28.000 I've just made there.

00:48:29.000 Look at that.

00:48:29.000 That's something out of... But then I was thinking, what if those staff revolt against the billionaires?

00:48:35.000 They'll probably outnumber them. 0.98

00:48:35.000 They will. 0.98

00:48:36.000 Of course they do.

00:48:37.000 And then... 0.99

00:48:38.000 Douglas Rushkoff in the interview says that they've got Navy SEALs protecting them and like they've inserted, they've working out ways to insert chips in them because like the Navy SEAL, hang on a fucking minute! 0.98

00:48:48.000 This could be my bunker! 0.97

00:48:50.000 Now you just wait a second now!

00:48:52.000 Like they're ready with something to blow up an archery in the Navy SEAL.

00:48:56.000 Wow.

00:48:56.000 Yeah, that's what's going down.

00:48:58.000 I reckon we should get... I wanna get Jocko Willink on this show and cuddle him so hard.

00:49:02.000 No, like, Jocko Willink, former Navy SEAL... Whenever you say that, it sounds like you wanna, like, set up a little fight.

00:49:06.000 I wanna get Jocko Willink and Bill Gates and let him go for it!

00:49:10.000 Because I like Jocko Willink, because he's got, like, such a squ... There's no way, when you're looking at Jocko Willink, that you could ever make the mistake of, I think I could have him in a fight.

00:49:19.000 Like, you could never make that mistake.

00:49:21.000 He looks like... Like, he looks like he could use his, sort of, chin to smash your face in.

00:49:26.000 Like he could hurt your elbow with his chin. 0.86

00:49:26.000 Right. 0.86

00:49:29.000 You know?

00:49:29.000 That's what I was thinking when I was interviewing him before.

00:49:32.000 Let's get Jocko Willink on.

00:49:33.000 Firstly, I'll ask him about would the Navy Seals have the capacity to sabotage that Nord Stream pipeline and do you think it will be in line with American policy?

00:49:41.000 The sort of thing he might not want to say, maybe.

00:49:44.000 I don't know how it works.

00:49:44.000 I don't know.

00:49:45.000 And then I'll say, if me and you were to smash my elbow on your chin, do you think my elbow would start hurting?

00:49:53.000 That's question two, is it?

00:49:54.000 Yeah that's too radical.

00:49:55.000 I think maybe leave it question four or five I would go if I were you. 1.00

00:49:58.000 Yeah you're right there needs to be some sort of ebb and flow before like otherwise hmm I'm assessing you you're an idiot. 0.99

00:50:04.000 Yeah like you're right I'll create a natural narrative. 1.00

00:50:08.000 Oh there he is.

00:50:09.000 If you have a look at Jocko Willink you can see what what my fascination is based on that sort of like there's some pretty serious machismo coming out of the man he's also like a BJJ black belt and everything.

00:50:18.000 Yeah let's get on the show because I'd like to talk to you about the old Nord Stream Pipeline.

00:50:22.000 I'm thinking of some very silly innuendo right now around pipelines, which I don't know what I'm not going to do.

00:50:27.000 It's sort of in case Jocko Willink eventually learns of it. 0.81

00:50:31.000 I don't want him to have that reference of some dumb innuendo and stuff.

00:50:36.000 Mate, did you want to say anything else about these bunkers before we show my interview with Douglas Rushkoff?

00:50:42.000 I was looking into experiments that the US government did in the 60s.

00:50:45.000 There's a piece in the Guardian.

00:50:46.000 During the early days of the Cold War, governments, the military and universities conducted numerous experiments to see how long people could withstand being trapped underground together.

00:50:57.000 In total, in the early 60s, about 7,000 people volunteered to be locked in spaces with groups ranging from the size of a family to more than 1,000 people as part of a US government's attempt to assess the psychological impact.

00:51:09.000 I like the idea that you're trapped underground to see how long you can withstand it.

00:51:13.000 That was a glorious day, glorious time for behaviouralism, all of that meal groom experience.

00:51:18.000 Why don't you just push that button?

00:51:20.000 Oh but they're crying!

00:51:21.000 Give it a little push! 1.00

00:51:22.000 And then like the experience where they dress up as prison officers and in about a day half the students are like, I hate those fucking screws man! 1.00

00:51:28.000 I don't trust them! 0.99

00:51:29.000 That's for you to do maths class with him!

00:51:32.000 Like, people, like, immediately are easily influenced.

00:51:34.000 But when I used to do movies, like, the people that were dressed up as police, I used to think, hmm... Well, better watch what I say around him.

00:51:41.000 Like, it's... That's, I suppose, the point of a uniform and these kind of signifiers.

00:51:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:51:45.000 We forget that we are dominated by our unconscious mind.

00:51:49.000 Do your kids wear uniforms at school?

00:51:50.000 No, my kids go to one of them schools where they can basically do what they want, and like I'm even, like you know those kids, there's special schools, like where they can smoke and that.

00:52:00.000 They can do that if they want.

00:52:01.000 Yeah, if they want them to, like if they go, I believe I should be able to smoke!

00:52:05.000 Well, that's their right to be able to smoke if they want. 0.99

00:52:08.000 And like, if they tell the teacher to fuck off and stuff. 0.99

00:52:11.000 But like, I don't encourage that. 0.99

00:52:13.000 But what I've always told my children is never trust authority and always confront authority and always assume that a rule is a bad rule until you've seen that it's not.

00:52:23.000 I can't imagine you were one for uniforms at school, yeah?

00:52:26.000 I always made mine a little shorter.

00:52:29.000 I turned my school shirt into a crop top.

00:52:32.000 A little bit of midriff.

00:52:35.000 I androgynised it a little bit.

00:52:38.000 Listen, we've looked at billionaire bunkers and I would say...

00:52:42.000 Coruscating detail.

00:52:43.000 We've really gotten into the meaning of it, I'd say.

00:52:45.000 Douglas Rushkoff wrote a book called Survival of the Richest, how the elite plan to survive the apocalypse.

00:52:51.000 I spoke to him a little bit earlier.

00:52:53.000 This full conversation will be available in the Stay Free AF community.

00:52:57.000 Just have a look at this bit.

00:52:59.000 And also remember to smash that rumble button, innit?

00:53:02.000 With your chin, maybe.

00:53:03.000 Use your chin and your elbow and see if you're closer to Jocko Willink or me on that sort of scale of machismo.

00:53:10.000 Have a look at this chat.

00:53:11.000 The odd thing is it teaches us that, I think, of the ultimate futility of trying to live a life where you want to build a car that can escape from its own exhaust.

00:53:25.000 You know, it's what the tech bro billionaires who are trying to build bunkers are really using what I started to call the insulation equation.

00:53:35.000 They want to know how much money and technology do I need to insulate myself from the reality I'm creating by using Money and technology in this way.

00:53:46.000 And the fact is, you never win.

00:53:49.000 It's like escaping from karma.

00:53:51.000 So the real lesson is that, oh, instead of building a civilization or an empire in order to escape from the reality of nature and people and women and all the stuff they're afraid of, learn to join the others and have a much better time at it.

00:54:12.000 Billionaires added five trillion to their collective fortunes during the pandemic.

00:54:17.000 So the reality is that there is now a separate reality, a billionaire class.

00:54:23.000 Already, while their bunkers may not be subterranean, the bunker mentality already exists.

00:54:31.000 I wonder.

00:54:32.000 It already existed, though.

00:54:32.000 Yeah.

00:54:34.000 I mean, once you have whatever, a billion dollars, it's a kind of a almost an economic obesity, right?

00:54:40.000 You've now surrounded yourself with all of this money.

00:54:43.000 But what does the money actually do?

00:54:45.000 It's storage.

00:54:46.000 It's batteries.

00:54:47.000 They actually don't have a way.

00:54:49.000 There is no way for them to spend it.

00:54:51.000 I mean, even even Jeff Bezos, you know, Bezos going up in Blue Origin and the ultimate example of white flight. 1.00

00:54:58.000 You know, that's still not a reasonable escape strategy from any kind of disaster that would befall the planet.

00:55:07.000 I, myself, have always been driven by a kind of scarcity model and a kind of fear mentality.

00:55:13.000 But what I had to do is, right, if I can just do these things, I'll be alright!

00:55:18.000 And I suppose, though, I suppose the difference is, is whether someone that's operating at my level, is that the, of course, it's contributing to a collective impact in a number of ways, environmentally, ideologically, politically, etc.

00:55:29.000 But actually, if you're Jeff Bezos, or the people that are in the territory that they can actually afford these bunkers, it's almost making a verifiable, measurable impact.

00:55:41.000 As you say, they're like, as a Uroboros component, they're devouring their own tail as they enter the bunker. 1.00

00:55:48.000 Yeah, that really is interesting.

00:55:49.000 It's like they're playing a mind game, but they have enough money for the mind game to actually seem like it's working, right?

00:55:58.000 They could, in some ways, the evidence of climate change, or economic unrest, or electromagnetic pulse, or a nuclear war, those kinds of disasters help them justify their privatization of the world.

00:56:17.000 Hoag670 goes, how will Amazon delivery find your bunker?

00:56:21.000 Yeah.

00:56:22.000 How will your drone deliver your stuff?

00:56:23.000 Pdon, just as border walls are simultaneously imprisoning citizens, these bunkers are just the rich digging their own graves.

00:56:31.000 The brilliant British writer Robert McFarlane says that we only put things under the ground that we deeply cherish or that we're so ashamed of that we want to hide forever, like imagine a dead body.

00:56:41.000 Or nuclear waste, but then also the sort of tombs of the revered buried with jewels and even their beloved pets and this sort of bunker idea.

00:56:51.000 Do you know what I see it at from a psychological perspective?

00:56:55.000 It's like an unwillingness to confront reality.

00:56:57.000 It's like literally burying your head in the sand.

00:57:01.000 If the system that you are a dominant contributor to is causing the destruction of the planet, Isn't it time now to look at how you could participate in new systems rather than, right, so I keep destroying it but then I can go over there and it's so mental.

00:57:17.000 I used to think a lot when I'd see people sleeping rough, you know, homeless people, street sleepers, whatever, rough sleepers, whatever you want to call them, that The degree of comfort that I had then, like living in an apartment or whatever, was like, I'm able to remove myself from the reality of suffering.

00:57:33.000 But like, once you are homeless, then suffering is on you.

00:57:36.000 And I suppose that material wealth is about moving away reality to the point where you don't have to, you're not confronted with it at all.

00:57:44.000 It's just away from you.

00:57:45.000 You're insulated.

00:57:46.000 And that's what Douglas was talking about a lot.

00:57:48.000 They're trying a bunch of things, aren't they?

00:57:50.000 The mega rich, the billionaires.

00:57:51.000 Because if it's not bunkering down into the ground, They're going into space, and if it's not that, then it's trying all kinds of techniques to live forever.

00:57:59.000 So you know, you've got like these billionaires who are experimenting with using young people's blood and things like that.

00:58:05.000 They are trying literally everything they can to live forever.

00:58:08.000 And so many things are enshrined in myth, like vampirism, like the idea of vampires exists mythically perhaps.

00:58:15.000 Perhaps to sort of safeguard against the idea that, oh, well, we can suck the lifeblood out of people that that's the only resource they have left.

00:58:23.000 And even moving closer to the sun is mythically explored and understood.

00:58:29.000 Elsewhere in the conversation, Douglas was saying about like a kind of disembodiment.

00:58:33.000 And we're being invited now to inhabit the metaverse.

00:58:36.000 We saw an amazing video of like Walmart now who are entering the healthcare space and now have a

00:58:41.000 sort of a supermarket where you can shop online. But it's really horrible in their

00:58:46.000 supermarket. You walk around with like the shop assistant don't have no legs and that and she's 1.00

00:58:50.000 sort of floating around like Casper the friendly shop assistant. Would you like

00:58:54.000 more milk?

00:58:55.000 I noticed from your house you're out of wine.

00:58:57.000 Can I recommend a bottle? 1.00

00:58:59.000 And then your own sort of little Mickey Mouse robot hands reach and grab a carton of milk and sling it like an idiot into a trolley. 1.00

00:59:07.000 What about actual reality? 0.99

00:59:09.000 Why are we sort of synthesizing what is deeply already known?

00:59:13.000 That there is a connection between us.

00:59:15.000 The reason that I can't get drawn too much into hateful rhetoric, even though I obviously as a human being experience hate and judgment and all those kind of things, just realize that cannot be the solution.

00:59:26.000 This cannot be about finding a group of people that don't have power and condemning them.

00:59:31.000 It can't be that.

00:59:33.000 It must be about recognizing in myself Where I am contributing to and participating in systems of oppression.

00:59:41.000 Where can I be more beautiful?

00:59:42.000 Where can I be more helpful?

00:59:43.000 And it's not very easy to do that.

00:59:45.000 No.

00:59:46.000 Do you know what would really make it easier? 1.00

00:59:49.000 A bit of fucking French horn! 0.99

00:59:51.000 A rousing bit of brass! 1.00

00:59:56.000 I've got to save the world now, have I?

00:59:59.000 I know what it is.

01:00:00.000 You don't feel like in the right sort of mood.

01:00:02.000 I don't play an instrument, but I can imagine if you play like a brass thing, you can't half-arse it.

01:00:09.000 It's not like strumming a guitar, is it?

01:00:10.000 You can sort of be all sorrowful and be a bit like Neil Young or something.

01:00:14.000 With brass, you've got to go...

01:00:17.000 The energy level is like a controlled fart, isn't it?

01:00:20.000 Yeah, it is.

01:00:21.000 It's like using your whole body in that.

01:00:23.000 It is exactly that, yeah.

01:00:24.000 And you sort of think, I can't do it.

01:00:26.000 I feel a bit sad.

01:00:27.000 I feel like I've got to talk about Facebook and things like that and Tulsi Gabbard.

01:00:31.000 It's not the mood isn't right.

01:00:33.000 What is the right sort of mood?

01:00:36.000 It's more like what you did.

01:00:40.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:00:41.000 I was watching the people from the road club doing their rowing exercises and I thought I will never

01:00:48.000 know that world.

01:00:49.000 I could see them they were brightly lit on rowing machines with their tops off

01:00:52.000 and for them something... Hang on a minute. First of all you said... Why do you need context?

01:00:56.000 You said the row club like everyone knows what you're talking about to start with. You know the row club.

01:00:59.000 And then you talking about men with their tops off. What's going on? God all right.

01:01:03.000 I was walking down the river with my wife, just a couple of normal people living normal lives, and then I could see the road club, because it's by a river, and it's illuminated up by a bridge.

01:01:12.000 And we could see them in there, and every so often you'd hear them sort of shout like people exercising do.

01:01:16.000 Come on, baby! 1.00

01:01:17.000 Or something like that, you know, to get it more... That's it.

01:01:20.000 And like, they had their tops off, and I was thinking, that to them, that's just their normal life.

01:01:25.000 Come on, we know you were thinking four.

01:01:27.000 It was quite far away, but I knew it would be four.

01:01:30.000 Because there's a level of beauty, where even if you're a person of sort of declared heterosexual, such as myself, there's a level of sort of beauty where you think, well I don't really care what you are, I just like the shapes, let me poke that!

01:01:42.000 Right?

01:01:42.000 And like, them men, I think, were that.

01:01:45.000 Because they had their tops off, and they were doing the rowing.

01:01:48.000 Anyway, look, that's not my point.

01:01:49.000 My point is, they occupy a world that I will never know.

01:01:52.000 I will never kno- Unless I join the road club.

01:01:55.000 Well yeah, I mean that is, it seems like you live near it.

01:01:57.000 They've invited me to come in!

01:01:59.000 I just stood there sort of weeping.

01:02:02.000 I will never know the road club!

01:02:04.000 You just took your top off anyway.

01:02:05.000 I stood there like that, a single tear, a flaccid tear.

01:02:14.000 I'm just saying that there are all sorts of avenues in reality to occupy did you not think when you was a kid that you'd like to be in a computer game where you could sort of do anything where it wasn't even restricted by the agenda of the game that you could just wander around and be in reality and experience it then you think this is reality like if you ever put a virtual reality helmet on you start to realize actually I I'm in a virtual reality helmet.

01:02:36.000 My body is a virtual reality helmet.

01:02:39.000 There's more to be experienced than the limited senses will allow us.

01:02:43.000 Not that the senses aren't wondrous, but it's a curated reality we live within.

01:02:47.000 So if within that curated reality you live within a subset of moral values, particularly if they're sort of persecutory, if they include self-hatred or hatred of others, we have to transcend them.

01:02:57.000 This is the spiritual message.

01:02:58.000 To get beyond what is material.

01:03:00.000 To get beyond what is rational.

01:03:02.000 To access There's something within yourself that is powerful enough to help you to overcome these powerful systems.

01:03:07.000 You're not going to do it by Democrat, Republican or, in our country, Conservative Labour or any kind of traditional progressivism.

01:03:15.000 Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

01:03:17.000 There needs to be a deep unity and I think it can only come from Going to a road club, really.

01:03:23.000 Joining right in.

01:03:25.000 And offering some of those lads a bloody good massage.

01:03:27.000 Because they must be exhausted. 0.77

01:03:28.000 Their traps must be knackered, Gary.

01:03:30.000 Sorry?

01:03:31.000 Their traps!

01:03:32.000 Oh, right, okay.

01:03:33.000 Why, what did you think?

01:03:33.000 I don't know, I just wondered.

01:03:34.000 I thought it might be a euphemism.

01:03:36.000 That's a unique new term that I've come up with.

01:03:38.000 Hey, listen, there's no point in us saying stuff.

01:03:40.000 We're not philosophers.

01:03:43.000 We do a podcast called Subcutaneous.

01:03:45.000 Every Tuesday's episode is a deeper conversation with a brilliant person.

01:03:49.000 The next one is Vandana Shiva.

01:03:50.000 God love her, the great mother.

01:03:52.000 Have a look at this little bit of the conversation.

01:03:54.000 You'll see that next Tuesday.

01:03:56.000 But also, if you join Stay Free AF, you can see these four conversations and you can join us live when we're talking to them.

01:04:02.000 So when I talk to Eckhart Tolle, you can be there live when I talk to Jordan Peterson.

01:04:05.000 You'll be there live when I talk to Kanye West.

01:04:07.000 Who knows?

01:04:08.000 We might not risk that.

01:04:09.000 But when I talk to Elon Musk, when will you respond to my texts?

01:04:12.000 I have actually sort of fallen in love with him a bit now, because he's not responded.

01:04:15.000 Still not responded.

01:04:17.000 I'm not double texting.

01:04:18.000 No, you mustn't.

01:04:18.000 I won't double text.

01:04:19.000 Not with Elon.

01:04:20.000 Never double text with Elon.

01:04:21.000 OK, have a look at Vandana Shiva.

01:04:23.000 Right after that, we'll be joined with the philosopher, my friend, Brad Evans.

01:04:27.000 See you in a second.

01:04:28.000 How do you feel about the current war?

01:04:32.000 You know, I don't call it a Ukraine-Russia war.

01:04:35.000 Look at who is financing it.

01:04:37.000 Look at where the weapons are coming from.

01:04:39.000 So all of those countries are involved.

01:04:45.000 Here we are with Brad Evans.

01:04:47.000 Thanks for joining us.

01:04:47.000 Welcome, Brad.

01:04:48.000 Always a pleasure, mate.

01:04:49.000 Thank you, mate.

01:04:50.000 Brad is a professor of political violence at the University of Bath and author of Disposable Futures.

01:04:55.000 You can follow Brad, and you bloody well should, and you should purchase his materials when you can.

01:05:00.000 Maybe we'll strap some stuff up on Brad.

01:05:03.000 Brad!

01:05:03.000 We've been talking about bunkers and how it's a sort of physicalisation of several things.

01:05:08.000 Obviously a social bifurcation, the separation of an elite class, well someone in the chat said you shouldn't call them an elite class because they're parasites on ordinary working folk.

01:05:18.000 It obviously demonstrates that economic inequality and I was thinking before that the submergence in the ground sort of demonstrates something.

01:05:25.000 What else can we draw from this phenomena of the bunker?

01:05:30.000 Yeah, I think historically a bunker, we can think of course, is very much linked to narratives of security.

01:05:35.000 I know you mentioned about Hitler.

01:05:36.000 You know, the idea with Hitler... You told me earlier. 0.94

01:05:39.000 I credited you.

01:05:41.000 So, you know, when Hitler kind of accelerates the bunkerization of Europe in World War II, when he builds 25,000 bunkers, which kind of was called the Atlantic Wall, this gives rise to an idea of what's called Fortress Europe, where we kind of protect this kind of Terrain.

01:05:55.000 Now, the question of the bunker symbolically is, what's being protected?

01:05:59.000 What's being preserved?

01:06:00.000 What rights, what values, what ideas are being preserved?

01:06:03.000 And there's an interesting piece by Paul Virilio.

01:06:06.000 He wrote a brilliant book called Bunker Archaeology.

01:06:08.000 And he says, you know, bunkers are built in response to a menacing outside, but they're always inhabited by madness and monsters.

01:06:15.000 And I think it's a really interesting way of thinking about, you know, the madness of creating something.

01:06:19.000 Because if you think about it, it's inherently nihilistic.

01:06:22.000 It's about people who've really given up on the world, given up that we can resolve our problems.

01:06:28.000 Oh, Brad, what you're telling me suggests that even the existence of these bunkers is an indication that they have declared that the world will soon become an unlivable space.

01:06:40.000 Well, I think it's interesting if you look at who's planned to be inhabiting these bunkers.

01:06:44.000 And if we talk about the elite class, it's largely the technocratic class.

01:06:47.000 And we're living in an age of a technocracy today.

01:06:50.000 And that technocracy, on the one hand, is encouraging us all to live this metaverse lifestyle.

01:06:55.000 And they are the ones who will kind of not only live in the kind of, you know, the real world, but also they're the ones who'll survive this real world.

01:07:01.000 What was also striking, I saw the video that you showed, is what is actually represented in terms of what's kept, you know, we know the great works of art, but what was striking was there's no animals in this.

01:07:11.000 Yeah.

01:07:12.000 And actually, we need the banana plant, right?

01:07:14.000 There's one token banana plant.

01:07:16.000 And obviously, we say there's, you know, the servants.

01:07:18.000 Perhaps we won't need the servants, because AI will do all that kind of stuff, you know?

01:07:21.000 And I think there's... It's actually revealing about the kind of future we're imagining.

01:07:25.000 And if this is left as the only imagination left to us, you know...

01:07:29.000 When Verilion says madness and monsters, Brad, do you think that that's sort of more relevant when you consider the image of mad Hitler in a bunker with his Reich crumbled around him? 0.70

01:07:40.000 Or do you think that this monster and madness model can be applied to the kind of bunkers that we're discussing today?

01:07:46.000 What is the monster and madness?

01:07:48.000 I think the madness is the talk of annihilation.

01:07:53.000 The monster is basically the kind of world that we will leave after it.

01:07:56.000 It'll be a monstrous world.

01:07:58.000 How could you survive that?

01:08:00.000 I mean, intellectually, psychologically, if you were to inhabit this bunker, aside from the fact, you know, whatever would be the very first bunker divorce or the very first bunker murder.

01:08:11.000 I've really gone off you since we've been in this bunker!

01:08:15.000 But I think in terms of, you know, the monstrous is really the world which follows.

01:08:18.000 And I think the madness is the point that leads us to the brink of annihilation.

01:08:22.000 The monstrous is not an individual.

01:08:23.000 The madness is not an individual.

01:08:25.000 It's the logic of power which basically says, you know what, it's okay to bring us to the point of annihilation.

01:08:31.000 And I think that's the cusp that we're at today.

01:08:33.000 And I think that's quite terrifying if you think about it in those terms.

01:08:35.000 Yeah, it is terrifying.

01:08:36.000 And even the commodification of the apocalypse, the idea that this can be survived, somewhere in that commercial for Oppidum, it listed the potential reasons why you might want a bunker.

01:08:49.000 It said something like, native unrest, and pandemics, and then I think it sort of said, like, war.

01:08:56.000 The idea that that is, that those crises, that you wouldn't spend your energy and your resources in creating a planet that meaningfully addresses those crises rather than, well, like you said, it's nihilistic because it accepts the inevitability of that condition and then says, but we'll be alright!

01:09:15.000 Because we're going to be down here with a work of art and no pets.

01:09:19.000 Well, I think it's also interesting, you know, there's another great theorist on the apocalypse, a guy called Jacob Taubes said, at least the old apocalyptic narratives had an idea of a better world to come.

01:09:28.000 This is no better world to come.

01:09:29.000 You know, it's the only thing we can do is just commodify the apocalypse and commodify it in a way which becomes, as I say, ultimately nihilistic.

01:09:37.000 That's what happens if you try to materialise everything.

01:09:39.000 Like, I read an analysis of Christ once, saying that Christ was part of a tradition of apocalyptic preachers. 0.97

01:09:46.000 When you look at it historically, where he was not the only evangelist at that time, saying, you best get your shit together, because in the hereafter, it's gonna go down! 0.98

01:09:56.000 Is what Jesus was saying. 0.98

01:09:57.000 Paraphrasing, for the kids.

01:09:58.000 And like, obviously in that vision, We're moving towards a kind of moral singularity.

01:10:06.000 We're moving to a place of true unity, a place of reckoning, where we're forced to confront that our value systems have been irrelevant, wayward, sinful, broken.

01:10:18.000 But it's almost like we're trying to hedge the possibility of necessary morality.

01:10:24.000 Yeah, but I think obviously there's... I agree with you completely and also... Because I actually hit a pulpit there because I'm so serious.

01:10:30.000 But also there's that point about, you know, There's no philosophy without death, right?

01:10:36.000 Philosophy is learning how to die.

01:10:38.000 And what these bunkers seem to represent also is this inability to recognize the question of death in terms of, you know, what does the broad annihilation of the planet except for the top 2% actually mean, philosophically, in terms of what it means for humanity?

01:10:52.000 You talked about the artwork, you know.

01:10:53.000 What's the point of the artwork if it's not witnessed by the human?

01:10:56.000 Witnessed by humanity in a shared collaborative experience.

01:10:59.000 You know, I don't want to just sat there by myself looking at Guernica all day.

01:11:02.000 I'll go absolutely insane.

01:11:04.000 That will be the madness as well, so.

01:11:05.000 I've got Rodan's thinker over there. 0.99

01:11:08.000 I've been masturbating. 0.93

01:11:09.000 It's not that my wife's gone. 0.99

01:11:10.000 She said she preferred the ashes.

01:11:12.000 Gareth said that the super-rich have kind of fetishized.

01:11:16.000 You know, you said like there's the vampire thing, the bunker thing, the space thing.

01:11:20.000 Yeah, they're either going to space or burrowing into the ground or injecting themselves with the blood of young people and all sorts of other methods to try and sustain their lives on this planet as it is at the moment. 0.98

01:11:31.000 But they're trying to escape what we currently inhabit.

01:11:35.000 Yeah, and escaping what it means to be human, right?

01:11:37.000 To be human means to live amongst a messy collective of millions.

01:11:41.000 And this is kind of, you know, you say that kind of shift to transhumanism, to put yourself into a computer consciousness or to kind of evacuate yourself into this.

01:11:50.000 And maybe the pandemic represents a step in this, you know, the normalisation of bunker mentalities, getting us all to buy into the idea that it's OK to be in permanent lockdown.

01:11:59.000 And then, of course, you might die and then as a few will survive.

01:12:02.000 Because if you're saying, and you did say Brad because I heard you, that like without death there is no philosophy, if what the current modality, or the emergent modality, is the denial of death through wealth and affluence, whether it's through this sort of modern vampirism, space flight and sort of physical transcendence, or the sort of physical burying their head in the sand, That they're trying to extract this fundamental tool that we've always had, that has been foundational for civilization.

01:12:37.000 Even if you think of... I wonder if you contemplate a philosophy that precedes civilization, folk philosophy, the philosophy that would accompany totemism.

01:12:45.000 This is a kind of philosophy, isn't it?

01:12:47.000 Or do you think it requires a degree of abstraction, that it only becomes philosophy once it's applied to the modes of civilization?

01:12:53.000 Is it a type of philosophy to revere the animals that you hunt or the plants that you cultivate?

01:12:59.000 Is that a philosophy of a type?

01:13:02.000 The most beautiful philosophy we know is the ancestral.

01:13:05.000 It connects, far predates European history and far predates, you know, we think of the artwork, the poetry, the narrative, the history, the unwritten stories which kind of accompany the history of the human condition.

01:13:16.000 The other side of that, of course we think of the ancestral as kind of pre-civilization, all this kind of ideas.

01:13:21.000 The other side of that is the apocalyptic where, you know, I'm reminded of Einstein's quote when he says, I don't know what the third world war will look like, I know the fourth world war will be fought with sticks and stones.

01:13:33.000 Yeah.

01:13:33.000 And he's talking about this kind of utter devastation, which is the complete antithesis of the ancestral.

01:13:40.000 The idea that actually there is a deeper connection that humans can have, which would always philosophical, even before philosophy is kind of invented by Europe.

01:13:48.000 That's cool.

01:13:49.000 Einstein there, just trying to cheat his way out of properly describing the world war we're most interested in hearing explained.

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01:14:03.000 We're going to be here for a little while longer, but only for those of you that are members of our Stay Free AF community.

01:14:09.000 Hey, we're going to look into getting Rumble to provide closed captions.

01:14:12.000 That seems like a Bloody good idea.

01:14:15.000 So today we were, of course, primarily interested in discussing and analyzing the revelations that Pfizer never even bothered to trial that drug when it comes to transmission.

01:14:25.000 They didn't have the time.

01:14:25.000 They couldn't be bothered.

01:14:26.000 We're going to look at that in more depth tomorrow.

01:14:29.000 So make sure that you join us live tomorrow.

01:14:32.000 Our guest will be Dr. Asim Malhotra.

01:14:35.000 He's a cardiologist who actually thinks that the vaccination should be halted, gal. 0.69

01:14:40.000 Get that down your anti-conspiracy theorist throat.

01:14:43.000 And he's a proper doctor as well.

01:14:45.000 Not just a doctor of something where you can't mend a broken arm.

01:14:48.000 Real doctoring.

01:14:49.000 Doctoring like Mama used to make. 0.99

01:14:52.000 Also, on Friday we're talking about Trump and fascism.

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01:15:17.000 You don't need it widescreen, do you?

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Stay Free - Russel Brand - October 12, 2022

Stay Free with Russell Brand #011 - Pfizer - They Admitted It!

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