In this episode of Stay Free With Russell Brand Live on Rumble, the lads discuss whether Trump is a fascist, and whether he's actually a fascist. Plus, a look at how our perspectives are constantly changing, and how we can be influenced by them. And, of course, there's still time to catch up with Russell on Rumble too! Stay Free with Russell Brand is out now, and you can catch it live on Rumble. Subscribe to stay free with Russell and the rest of the Stay Free gang on Rumble here. Just pay the 2.95 postage and you'll get a free ad-free version of the show on your favourite streaming platform. Enjoy, and spread the word to your friends about what's going on in the world of politics and pop culture. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and we'll read it on the next episode. Thank you so much for your support, it really does mean a lot to us and we really appreciate it. Timestamps: 3:00 - Is Trump a fascist? 5:30 - Who are the real fascists? 6:00 | Is Putin a dictator? 8:00 9:30 | Who's the real fascist? 11:30 12:15 - Is Putin the real dictator? 13:00 // Is Putin scared of the USA? 16:20 - What does Putin think of the US? 17:40 - Is he miscalculated his power? 18:20 19: Is Putin intimidated by the US President? 19:00 +16:40 21: What's the point of Putin? 22:15 | Putin's days are over? 27:40 | Does he really mean it like that? 27:00 / 28:00/30? 29:00+ - Is the US have a problem with the USSR? 30:00? 35:00 & 35:30 + 35:10 36:00 Or is he a man like this guy? 31:00 And so what does he really think of us? 36: Is he intimidated by us? 37:00 Is he scared of us, or not? 39: Is this guy intimidated? 40:00 Do we have a chance to stand up to him? 41:00 Can he be intimidated by me? 45:00 What s the point?
00:11:07.000In this video, you're going to see the future.
00:11:19.000Ah, you've joined us, haven't you, for Stay Free with Russell Brand, live on Rumble, then in full on Rumble later, or now, if that's when you're watching it.
00:11:51.000At it, there was a bit where he said, um, let's have peace, didn't he?
00:11:56.000And, uh, that's not a fascistic perspective generally, is it?
00:12:00.000How are our perspectives altering so radically, vacillating wildly?
00:12:04.000It used to be, don't you remember when you grew up, that the people that wanted peace were the goodies, and the people that wanted war were the baddies, like literally in Star Wars and everything.
00:13:22.000We've got some news about that guy, actually.
00:13:23.000Obviously, in our country, England, the pound has, wait a minute, the Chancellor's been sacked, and it means that the pound has gone Up a bit.
00:13:57.000So, yeah, that's good to pound off a bit.
00:13:58.000Biden says Putin totally miscalculated Russia's ability to occupy Ukraine.
00:14:04.000Some of you will be old enough to remember something that got said about two years ago, where he said like he was going to really sort Putin out.
00:14:12.000Have a look at this and just tell me what it makes you feel.
00:14:15.000Note your stomach, your heart, your head, all of it, just as Biden says these things.
00:14:20.000Because Putin knows if I am President of the United States, his days of tyranny and trying to intimidate the United States and those in Eastern Europe are over.
00:14:29.000Do people actually mean it when they say stuff like that?
00:15:02.000Do you think that a man like Putin would be intimidated, not by Joe Biden personally, I don't engage in that kind of tittle-tattle mudslinging, but by anybody that you go, oh no, this guy looks I'm going to stand up to him.
00:15:14.000Look, he can't even replace one of the light bulbs.
00:16:48.000There's no point in running to a helicopter because a helicopter saves you so much time travelling by helicopter that the run to it, that's pointless.
00:16:56.000Because like a journey that would take you 4-5 hours by car, in a helicopter, 15 minutes.
00:17:02.000So that little jog there... It's pointless, wasn't it?
00:17:07.000The level of scrutiny and self-consciousness that office must bring requires, I think, the kind of magnificent ego that Donald Trump brought automatically to it.
00:17:22.000I guess you can't get into that position without a degree of egocentrism, even particularly, I suppose, as our culture is Predicated around materialism, individualism, we all believe that everything is outside of us, even on the most rudimentary level.
00:17:38.000I'll be happy if I get this, I'll be happy if I get that.
00:17:40.000No one thinks, my role in life is to let go of my own selfishness and find a way to make myself useful to everyone.
00:20:08.000Of course, Nancy Pelosi does have some previous for violence.
00:20:11.000Here she is carrying out a threat against a child, just to the side of her, who's potentially infringing upon a photograph, though we still don't really know what drove Nancy to hustle that kid so hard.
00:20:23.000Flores claims Pelosi tried to shove her young daughter out of the way during her swearing-in ceremony last week.
00:20:58.000The war between Russia and Ukraine, the ongoing support from NATO, the claims of Putin's unique status as a tyrant and dictator looking for a new Russian hegemony, the cost of living crisis, and indeed, most importantly, whether or not The institutions and elites with the most power can withstand even nuclear Armageddon.
00:21:21.000Is it possible that given that crises usually benefit the most powerful interests in society, e.g.
00:21:27.0002008, terrible crisis, ruins loads of people's lives, the richest people in the world get richer, 2019, pandemic, ruins loads of people's lives, Big tech gets richer.
00:22:53.000Palace officials are understood to be reviewing whether she should wear the jewel.
00:22:57.000Options could include the removal of the diamond and its mount, replacement with a crystal replica, or Camilla could opt for another crown, because there's other crowns.
00:23:05.000So there isn't an option at the moment of just giving it back.
00:24:25.000Evans before he got jabbed up, jabbed up into a Superman.
00:24:29.000And actually, interestingly, the Avengers are now allying with Pfizer, aren't they, for a new push now that Pfizer's products have to be purchased privately.
00:24:38.000They're not going to be purchased publicly no more.
00:24:41.000The government ain't going to buy no more.
00:24:42.000So Pfizer and Marvel are teaming up to promote booster shots.
00:24:58.000Well, you can have a magazine with... What I'm saying is, it's not just about, you know, selling the vaccine, is it?
00:25:05.000You get a magazine and also there's a positive affiliation between supremacy... You know like when you get a magazine and you get some free sweets or something?
00:27:41.000I've never done it, so I have no idea.
00:27:42.000Well, I don't know if you've mentioned this to you, but I took a lot of drugs, and that's what makes me so approachable and a man of the old people, the drug people.
00:27:51.000Let me know if you're on drugs right now.
00:29:01.000They should be made to use that music.
00:29:03.000They should be made to use that music at fashion shows so that they can understand how senseless it is what they're doing.
00:29:09.000Once in the same week, I went to Africa to do something at this British charity called Comic Relief.
00:29:13.000I went to a place in Uganda, I think, and I was on a rubbish dump where children were foraging in the rubbish and there was all sorts of sex crimes and gang stuff going on there.
00:29:23.000And they told me that this was the cradle of civilization where most archaeological evidence suggests humankind sprang from this region.
00:29:31.000And as I had that explained to me, I thought, this is it.
00:29:59.000And then the next week I was in Paris Fashion Week watching like a John Galliano show where there were these bubbles filled with smoke.
00:30:07.000My, my, I couldn't hold it together that I'd had these two experiences so close together, that on one planet, those things were happening.
00:30:14.000Like, if it was a human individual, it would be someone whose face was amazing and beautiful, but their ass was hanging out, or they had cancer throughout their abdomen.
00:30:22.000We're not living in a congruent reality, and on some level, we feel it.
00:30:26.000I suppose that's what, as I said before, the ridicule of Joe Biden is about, is his evident ineptitude as a communicator makes it obvious that it's a type of fear.
00:30:35.000And if you create a situation where what is most prized is people being able to communicate well or perform well, then you're gonna get those kind of figures rise up.
00:30:45.000And someone like Trump, who when we speak to Aram Ma'ay in a little bit, you'll be informed, apparently made decisions that were, that actually advanced the likelihood of conflict between Ukraine and Russia.
00:30:55.000Even Obama did deals in 2014 that made this situation worse.
00:30:59.000Trump did deals that made that situation worse.
00:31:02.000But, you know, both Obama and Trump were, in their own ways, very kind of beautiful, even in extremist politicians.
00:31:11.000Great at rhetoric, great at talking, somehow symbolic of a particular set of cultural values, or even beyond cultural in the case of Trump, I sometimes feel.
00:31:23.000There's a sort of a mad polarity of glibness And because he's such a berserker, such a bull in the china shop, you know that mentality of my enemy's enemy is my friend.
00:31:34.000Even someone like me, who, like, my primary position is a mistrust of authority, anti-establishment thinking, breakdown power, decentralised, free people wherever possible to be who they are as individuals and as a community.
00:31:48.000Still, I find someone like Trump, who is allied to big business and corporatism and individualism in an extraordinary way, I still found it appealing.
00:31:56.000just like this guy's smashing up this shit it's all gone proper mental have a
00:34:56.000But actually, what it said on the government website is we're clinically trialling it at the moment and subject to these clinical trials, we would recommend it as a treatment.
00:35:34.000Barely got quit now, you could get a right handful of that stuff.
00:35:37.000Anyway, like we did a video where we said, hold on a minute, I was under the distinct impression that there was a general sense that the vaccines were going to prevent transmission.
00:35:47.000And now everyone's acting like that weren't happening.
00:35:49.000Like Rachel Maddow didn't go get the vaccine, stops with you.
00:35:52.000Like Joe Biden said, pandemic of the unvaccinated.
00:37:21.000Before you can put it in the chat, before you can put that in the chat, I'll tell you.
00:37:24.000The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation are the second biggest funders of the WHO.
00:37:29.000So do you want a regulatory body with that much authority, not even the explicit authority within their remit, but tangential authority taken on by big tech?
00:37:38.000We can't pretend anymore that democracy is a real thing.
00:39:48.000Anyway, most recently, his most bold transgression is that he said that there should be a peaceful solution in the war between Russia and Ukraine.
00:39:57.000Let's have a look at what that fascist Trump said now, the peace-loving fascist pig.
00:40:03.000We must demand the immediate negotiation of a peaceful end to the war in Ukraine or we will end up in World War III and there will be nothing left of our planet, all because stupid people didn't have a clue.
00:41:40.000He's got sort of a way of talking that makes you literally imagine him doing stuff to a tank and sewing uniforms and coaching people over those walls that the Marines have to climb.
00:41:53.000He's got a brilliantly solipsistic and wonderfully raw narcissism and it shows you that there is a dearth of viable political alternatives, that that seems like the most attractive option.
00:42:06.000Rather than someone that's, you know, doddering about, hopeless, that spent their entire career taking corporate money that can't deliver, that says they're going to release people from prison that aren't in prison, that's the cannabis story, that says they're going to control drug prices and we beat pharma this year in a way that didn't make no difference to pharma.
00:42:22.000We're going to make Saudi Arabia a pariah.
00:42:24.000We're just going to carry on business as usual with Saudi Arabia.
00:42:27.000If that's what's normal, then anything alternative to that is going to seem reasonable.
00:42:32.000Now if war becomes normal, if that's the assumed position, we're in a war with Russia.
00:42:39.000Oh, this seems a bit like what went on in Iraq, crossed with what went on in Afghanistan, a perpetual war that's beneficial to the military-industrial complex.
00:42:47.000We can't keep promoting to the forefront of our culture adversary and condemnation of the other without looking at what our own political positions are.
00:44:00.000Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments what you think.
00:44:02.000Why isn't Joe Biden saying, look, the way things are going with Russia's imperialist intentions, it looks like we could head to a nuclear war.
00:44:08.000That's why I, as your president, will...
00:44:10.000I assure you right now, and ensure that this situation isn't going to head towards an apocalypse, because obviously, even though there's lots of complexity here, it's pretty obvious, even to a bloody idiot, that the worst of all possible scenarios is a nuclear armageddon.
00:44:57.000Biden told Democratic donors in New York that for the first time since the Cuban Missile Crisis, we have a direct threat from the use of nuclear weapons if things continue down the path they're going.
00:45:05.000He sounded like he sat on a porch chewing a bit of straw.
00:45:08.000He should be in there going, right, let's not go down this path anymore.
00:45:12.000Because, you know, I don't really want to be the President of the United States that presided over the end of the world.
00:45:17.000That might be a bit of a blot on the old copybook.
00:45:20.000During an interview on Saturday morning's Real America's Voice, a right-wing network, Trump accused the US and its leadership of goading Putin into waging a botched invasion of Ukraine on February the 24th.
00:45:57.000Earlier in the interview, the former president claimed that the war between Russia and Ukraine would never have happened if he'd won the election and served a second term.
00:46:54.000Can you see anything in American cultural life that you would prefer to have that money spent on?
00:46:59.000Does it surprise you that there's an easy highway for that money to travel towards the military-industrial complex, and some would say to the military more generally, and it's more difficult to get those resources into American infrastructure and also into the lives of ordinary American people?
00:47:14.000The relentless stream of funding announcements in the absence of any public discussion of what the US is doing to seek an end to the conflict has signalled to critics a recognition that there is no end in sight to the war and that the US is committed to supporting Ukrainian defence efforts for the long haul rather than pursue a negotiated end to it.
00:47:31.000Now of course what Noam Chomsky thinks is the most likely outcome is the absolute annihilation of Ukraine.
00:47:37.000What recent history suggests is the American military-industrial complex would like an ongoing entrenched war where tax expenditure can be diverted towards weapons manufacturers etc.
00:47:50.000I don't know enough to say for sure that that's the desired outcome.
00:47:53.000But what I would say is a factor that ought to be considered is that if Putin is a madman or a strategist, whatever he is, he's got nuclear weapons.
00:48:01.000So it seems like a bit of a risky game.
00:48:04.000I mean, I love a gamble, but do you gamble when your whole life and the planet's future is contingent upon it?
00:48:14.000It's actually preparing for endless war in Ukraine, said Stefan Semler, co-founder of the Security Policy Reform Institute.
00:48:20.000The US government has pumped more money and weapons into supporting the Ukrainian military than it sent in 2020 to Afghanistan, Israel and Egypt combined, surpassing in a matter of months three of the largest recipients of US military aid in history.
00:48:31.000Up to half of the $14 trillion spent by the Pentagon since 9-11 went to for-profit defence contractors, a study found.
00:48:39.000That's $7 trillion to defence contractors.
00:48:44.000Now, are you beginning to see what the motivation might be for not immediately curtailing this war and coming to peaceful terms?
00:48:51.000Do you think that in a capitalist system with a strong military-industrial complex, That spend a lot of money on lobbying, that have a lot of people in Congress that own shares in those organisations.
00:49:00.000Do you think that that seven trillion would have any influence?
00:49:02.000Because we're not talking about a Dalai Lama here.
00:49:04.000We're not talking about someone who thinks that the material world is an illusion and what matters is the spiritual world.
00:49:09.000I don't matter what's happening out there, it don't really affect me.
00:49:11.000We're talking about a financially oriented system, aren't we?
00:49:15.000Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments what you think.
00:49:17.000The Ukrainian news outlet Ukraininska Pravda reported that British Prime Minister Boris Johnson used his surprise visit to Kiev... Surprise!
00:49:25.000...to pressure President Zelensky to cut off peace negotiations.
00:49:37.000To cut off peace negotiations with Russia, even after the two sides appeared to have made tenuous progress towards a settlement to end the war.
00:49:43.000The British government has become an obstacle to peace in Ukraine by encouraging the continuation of the war through huge arms shipments and incendiary rhetoric.
00:49:50.000Oh, oh, you think arms shipments and incendiary rhetoric is likely to increase war?
00:49:55.000Those arms shipments and incendiary rhetoric were for a surprise birthday party.
00:49:59.000Lindsay German, the convener of the UK-based Stop the War Coalition, said in a statement, although I added the bit about it being a surprise birthday party, So there you go, it seems there are a lot of vested interests in keeping that war going, and the only voice advocating for peace in a meaningful way within the mainstream media, even though let's face it, he's somewhat marginalised, is Donald Trump.
00:50:18.000So at what point do you accept voices advocating for peace, wherever they come from?
00:54:42.000I had a brilliant conversation with him.
00:54:44.000Did the US and the UK sabotage the peace deals?
00:54:47.000Is there a diplomatic solution available?
00:54:49.000foreclosing on the idea of a peaceful solution.
00:54:52.000And if we are, does that mean it's going to be one of those sort of Afghanistan wars that just goes on and on forever?
00:54:56.000Or one of those wars like in Iraq where it leads to sort of terrorist groups going on the rise?
00:55:00.000Or is it going to be like a terrible nuclear war because Russia are a former superpower with incredible access to powerful military equipment?
00:55:08.000Yeah, well the one thing linking all those scenarios is... Go on.
00:55:11.000Well, the military-industrial complex making a lot of money.
00:55:14.000Funny you bring that up because... Go on, have you got a fact?
00:55:37.000They're having half of it, aren't they, the bastards?
00:55:39.000Look at this, the average taxpayer in America contributed two grand, that's £2,000 in your money, dollars, 2,000 bucks, to the military last year, and more than $900 of that went to corporate military contractors.
00:55:52.000So you're giving them that money directly.
00:55:54.000That means some of the time you're at work, you're just working for Lockheed Martin on the sly.
00:56:22.000Jonas Omen, the founder of Lithuanian-based organisation supplying the Ukrainian military, tell the American News Network that getting the weapons to the troops involves navigating a complex network of power lords, oligarchs and political players.
00:58:38.000Bob McKee, when he teaches his course, says, if you want your heroic character to demonstrate love, The only way you can have your character demonstrate love is through sacrifice.
01:00:46.000What is really worrying is that some countries that are sending weapons do not seem to think that it is their responsibility to put in place a very robust oversight mechanism.
01:00:54.000A US intelligence source told CNN in April that Washington has almost zero idea what happens to these arms, describing the shipments as dropping into a big black hole.
01:01:04.000I could come up with something better than that!
01:01:42.000And what it suggests is, are you actually sending them with the idea of them helping Ukraine, or is there something else at play here?
01:01:51.000And I think that's when you get into a headline like former NATO advisor says the UK and US sabotage peace deal, it starts to create a kind of narrative.
01:02:00.000All you want, really, is for people to sort of tell the truth a bit.
01:03:10.000Aaron, did the US and UK deliberately sabotage peace deals to keep the war in Ukraine going?
01:03:18.000And if that's true, and there is evidence to suggest that it is, why would they do that?
01:03:22.000It's true according to multiple sources.
01:03:25.000The first hint of this came actually from sources close to Zelensky, who told a Ukrainian media outlet in May That after Russia and Ukrainian negotiators reached a tentative deal to end the war, Boris Johnson came over from the UK, and there's no doubt he was acting at the behest of the US, because the UK is a lackey of the US when it comes to foreign policy, and told Zelensky that, sorry, we're not going to back you up if you make a deal with Putin, and it's not the time to negotiate with Putin, it's a time to fight him.
01:03:54.000So that killed those talks, and since then, Putin has said a similar thing.
01:03:58.000He accused the US of wrecking a peace agreement. And Fiona Hill, who's a former White
01:04:03.000House Russia expert, also said that U.S.
01:04:06.000officials knew that there was a peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine reached. So that's
01:04:10.000the evidence for it. And why they would want to kill peace is because, look, their goal is not
01:04:16.000to defend Ukraine. As Lloyd Austin, the defense secretary, said, their goal is to weaken Russia,
01:04:22.000to use Ukraine to bleed Russia, which has been a longtime goal of the U.S.
01:04:29.000And that's been made clear over and over.
01:04:31.000Lindsey Graham, the Republican senator, recently said that as long as we arm Ukraine, they will fight to the last person.
01:04:38.000So from Washington's point of view, Ukraine is not something to be defended.
01:04:42.000It's something to be used as cannon fodder against Russia.
01:04:47.000Aside from the moment where you said that the UK was the lackey of the United States, I found little to disagree with in your argument, but I've still been well enough conditioned to feel a kind of flush of patriotic rage pass through my body.
01:05:02.000Aaron, has six years of propaganda nudged us culturally into believing that it's futile to negotiate with Putin and Russia.
01:05:16.000Is there any indication that there is a diplomatic solution available that would be generally amenable?
01:05:22.000It's definitely ridiculous to believe that there's no chance of negotiating with Russia when you have all these sources saying that there was a deal reached and there's no reason why that can't be tried again.
01:05:33.000And yes, the last many years of propaganda where we've been told in the U.S.
01:05:38.000that Russia is basically responsible for all of our problems, Hillary Clinton, Concocted a conspiracy theory that Trump was a Russian asset, and then when she lost the election, blamed Russia for her loss instead of doing any real self-reflection.
01:05:51.000We've also seen Russia blamed for Hunter Biden's laptop.
01:05:55.000We've seen Kamala Harris say that Russia was responsible for the Colin Kaepernick controversy when he refused to stand for the national anthem.
01:06:03.000We've seen Russia blamed for Black Lives Matter protests.
01:06:06.000There's nothing They can't be laid at the Kremlin's doorstep by the Democratic Party or at least by the leaders of the Democratic Party.
01:06:13.000And so in that context, Russia is portrayed as this demonic existential threat that we can't negotiate with.
01:06:23.000If Russia's so bloody good, might as well let them be in charge.
01:09:09.000As a Navy SEAL, could you have done that pipeline in, done it in with an explosion, and do you think that's the sort of thing they might have done in the government, you know?
01:11:11.000Food is the embodiment of the community from the soil, the community of the insects and the pollinators, the community of the people who took care of the land.
01:11:21.000But begin a food community and have a party.
01:14:10.000Anyway, if you want to join me and Jocko Willink for what promises to be rather an awkward and embarrassing chat filled with unreciprocated sexual tension, it's going to happen on Tuesday live.
01:14:21.000We'll let you know over on Stay Free AF.