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00:13:42.000Patchy the pirate who's watching on the stream says love the suspenseful music feels like I've been abducted by
00:13:48.000aliens and I'm about to get probed You'll only know what that suspenseful music is like if you
00:13:53.000watch us when we stream which we do every day at these times
00:13:57.000If you're in New York, it's that time If you're in LA, it's that time.
00:14:01.000If you're in London, see that pound going up nice and high now, that pound.
00:14:06.000With me is the producer of the show, Gareth Roy, and over there is Suby and Will.
00:14:10.000They help us with your comments, so if you've got anything you want to add, anything you want to add to the chat or the comments, you can do that.
00:14:17.000Of course, not if you're in your car right now listening to a podcast, You'd be asking us to master time travel, and I actually just find punctuality in itself quite difficult.
00:14:27.000Like, that's just travelling to a place.
00:14:29.000That's not even... That's place travel.
00:14:32.000Although, what about when you get on a plane, and then you arrive somewhere at a different time than... That's still travel.
00:14:38.000Because... What about... Well, like, they say that helicopter travel, that's like time travel, because all of a sudden, you're just somewhere else.
00:14:49.000Because, you know, when you get to a place on a plane and then you get back and you say, oh, in my time, back where I was, it's actually 6pm tomorrow.
00:14:57.000And you're like, well, have we time travelled?
00:15:10.000Little IT guy says, aren't we all travelling through time?
00:15:13.000Little IT guy, you're right, we're wrong.
00:15:16.000Wittgenstein said, if you consider eternity not to be a sort of a sequence of time, but the present moment, then the way to eternity is the present.
00:15:25.000In fact, Will, can you find that Wittgenstein quote on the eternal present?
00:15:29.000First up, a Wittgenstein quote on the eternal present, then not long after that, the news, which of course is about things that are new.
00:15:54.000I remember reading a note from your teachers that had to go to your mum that said Russell hasn't turned up to school or he's late all the time or something and you actually wrote it didn't you?
00:16:10.000It was like I was one limitless consciousness expressing myself for all the various nodes of attention but also what I was doing was faking notes to bunk off PE because I was shy about not being good enough at PE.
00:16:20.000One time there goes So, talking about the news, it was Mr. Hall who was the headmaster of what you lot would call, probably, grade school, if you're an American.
00:16:42.000If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration, but timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present.
00:16:51.000If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration, but timelessness, Then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present.
00:16:59.000Let us know what you think about that.
00:17:00.000Let us know what you think about that in the chat or in the comments.
00:17:03.000Later on, we're doing this really brilliant news item where we look at Joe Biden's recent decision to release anyone, anyone who's in a federal prison just for marijuana.
00:18:09.000But that might be the culture of the Chinese then.
00:18:11.000Anyway, all I'm saying is that often drug legislation, whether it's prohibitive or, you know, letting you do the old drugs, what do I want to say, permissive, like, it's usually propaganda.
00:18:43.000Yeah, basically it was to create an underclass and then to irritate that underclass and now because the underclass is growing because of AI and increased mechanization, the fact is is that not that many people are necessary anymore.
00:18:54.000There's more of us that is necessary and they're thinking of ways to get rid of us.
00:18:57.000I don't want to be, you know what I mean, I don't want to be...
00:19:34.000It's interesting when he's talking about releasing people where there is no one to release, but also in general prison populations have gone up, but also the fact that it's pretty profitable.
00:19:43.000There'll be, yeah, there'll be a prison lobby.
00:19:44.000Every time you say we're going to reduce the population of prisoners in America, they'll say, oh, loads of them are making agent provocateur knickers and stuff, and loads of them are working in those prisons, plus there's the prison contracts themselves.
00:19:56.000There's no authenticity of governance.
00:20:00.000And the simple truth is, I don't think it would be any better if the Republicans got in.
00:20:05.000In our country, it's absolute chaos as well.
00:20:07.000Like our country, Britain, the pound can't keep still for a minute.
00:20:09.000I think it's about I think it's about there.
00:20:11.000You'll have to get an economist to correct me, but it's more or less there.
00:20:14.000The new Chancellor has had to make, well he's just made an emergency statement, and his emergency statement, we've got one, is called Jeremy Hunt, right?
00:20:22.000Now if you're an English person, you'll have heard of Jeremy Hunt for a while now because he's been floating around in the political scene.
00:20:27.000The main thing about Jeremy Hunt is when people talk about him, they make an evident and obvious Freudian slip, which I will not make in case it offends you, but there's loads and loads of clips online of people going, I was just talking to Jeremy and then they I have to say the C word, because there's something in them.
00:20:41.000Either it's because that's what they think about him, or just in their minds they're like, I mustn't say it, I mustn't say it, I'm gonna say it, I can feel myself nearly saying it.
00:20:48.000Sort of like the yips, you know, with darts or golf, where you go, I can't throw this dart!
00:20:54.000In all of golf, I can't hit it too much!
00:20:57.000My father-in-law's like a proper golfer, did you know that?
00:21:10.000Like the geezer that was Chancellor about an hour and a half ago, Kwasi Kwarteng, who had to be nutted off because he was making such a bad job of it, because every policy that he introduced in his mini-budget Annihilated British economics.
00:21:22.000We're now sort of invited to believe that this next person knows exactly what they're doing and as if it's like as if it's sort of money chess.
00:21:48.000Nor do I. Over in your country, President Biden, that's Joe Biden, the president of your country, commented on British politics while in an ice cream parlour.
00:22:00.000He transgressed against the protocols that exist between our nations.
00:22:04.000Our nations that I feel that we built together, member, is our idea to go there.
00:22:39.000And the alliance is for good stuff, isn't it?
00:22:40.000That's all the alliance is about, just nice things.
00:22:43.000We're just a couple of pals helping each other out.
00:22:46.000Let's have a look at Joe Biden down an ice cream parlour.
00:22:48.000What I think is troubling about this is that it happens in an ice cream parlour.
00:22:53.000Why is Joe Biden in an ice cream parlour?
00:22:55.000We'll show you a video in a minute which gives you a clue as to why Joe Biden might be in a bloody ice cream parlour.
00:23:01.000But first of all, just look at Joe Biden in an ice cream parlour.
00:23:06.000I wasn't the only one that thought it was a mistake.
00:23:12.000What I'm interested in at the moment is everything else that's happening in the ice cream parlor.
00:23:17.000There's this person behind, the woman here with glasses, there's a couple of other people.
00:23:21.000She looked to me like she's part interested in getting an ice cream, and also partly like, he's mad that the president's in this ice cream parlor.
00:23:28.000I think she works with him, because in a minute she says, Mr. President.
00:25:03.000Cutting taxes on the super wealthy at a time when... Anyway, I disagree with the policy, but it's up to Great Britain to make that judgment, not me.
00:25:15.000What's happened there is he's gone to an ice cream parlor for some reason or another, some sort of photo opportunity.
00:26:37.000Many of you that are familiar with the President of the United States of America will have sort of been aware of these peculiar interactions he has with young women.
00:26:44.000I would have thought he's been told enough times now about this hair sniffing to never do that again.
00:27:09.000And now, this is what I think is, again, it's Freudian.
00:27:11.000Like accidentally calling Jeremy Hunt, the new British Chancellor, Jeremy Seaward, What is it that's on Biden's mind to say this to a person?
00:28:32.000But that is less weird and inappropriate than conjecture on her sexual proclivities.
00:28:40.000I think he does this thing, Biden, where he starts talking and then thinks, oh God, I've started talking, and then just says something mad.
00:29:10.000I think it's like them old time cars, where you have to rev that engine at the beginning to get it going.
00:29:15.000So I think when he sees there's an interaction coming, like he's got to do a speech, he's down the ice cream parlour, he's got to comment on the British economy, he's got to make small talk with an adolescent female.
00:29:25.000He gets the old brain going, fires up them new...
00:29:29.000And all of the systems are sort of getting all jazzed up.
00:29:33.000Like, while it's all getting pumped up, once he starts talking, like he's hearing himself talking, and I'm like, what am I saying now?
00:29:39.000The British made a mistake, you shouldn't be alleviating a tax burden on the super-rich at a time like this.
00:29:43.000Hold a minute, mate, all you're describing is socialism.
00:29:45.000Oh no, I'm in an ice cream parlour and I'm quoting Karl Marx!
00:33:29.000I mean, the thing is, look, let's not create a culture where you cannot be affectionate and loving and it's immediately assumed that it's some sort of sexual advance.
00:34:01.000So also later on in the show, we're going to be talking to you about the Sweden are not willing to share their Nord Stream investigation findings.
00:34:26.000I've got all them, like, them lines, them laser lines that they have in cat book films where they have to get, like, something out of a museum.
00:34:31.000You know, all the crisscrossing lines.
00:35:04.000You've got to watch it because it shows that even at the level of geopolitics, the same way as that ice cream Farago and this, you know, this incident with this youngster, Show that even at the top level of politics there are kind of levels of ineptitude and clumsiness that you would expect to find at much lower levels of society.
00:35:23.000I mean I suppose that's what the work of Armando Iannucci is about is that you expect these people, you know he wrote like Veep and directed Veep and brilliant shows like In the Loop and The Thick of It, is that you anticipate that these people are going to be brilliant but when you encounter them they are not.
00:35:39.000They're normal people with The budget is a perfect example, isn't it?
00:36:11.000Because my mortgage has gone through the roof.
00:36:13.000At the end of all this rhetoric and all this ludicrous skullduggery and tomfoolery, all this faux idiocy, all this apparent expertise, all of this language designed to create a war between them and you, there's just people fucking stuff up and suffering.
00:37:27.000Right, we tried a mini-budget, and it's a bit like a mini-bar.
00:37:30.000It's exactly like a bar, but it's like a mouse's size.
00:37:33.000Like, a mini-bar is the least economic thing you could do, because, like, a bottle of vodka, to produce one glass bottle that big, it's probably only a few cents more to create a full-size bottle of vodka.
00:37:52.000Again and again, we are either blinded by jargon and ridiculous rhetoric or distracted by cultural collisions that ultimately aren't going to make a difference in most people's lives, while ordinary power continues apace and interrupted by our requirements.
00:38:11.000Our requirements, the people of the earth, with all of our diverse needs, with all of the limitless expressions of being human that you would find in any room, in any school, in any business, in any town, in any place.
00:38:21.000I'm not just talking about obvious cultural markers like race or creed or gender.
00:38:25.000I'm talking about some people are very emotional, some people are very anxious, some people are likely to obey rules.
00:38:30.000There's so many ways of being human and I feel that we're at the point where we have to discover A general unity and a general consensus to do things differently.
00:38:41.000That's the part of like the kind of climate change movement that I wholeheartedly agree with.
00:38:49.000You should love and respect the planet.
00:38:51.000Two, we all live on one planet, so we have to find a way of uniting.
00:38:56.000I recognise that those of you in the chat are like, oh, climate change, it's a myth, the universe is heating up generally, but still, it ain't good, all of the pollution and the filthy behaviour and the disgusting submission to the requirements of corporations.
00:39:10.000You know, I'm not able to agree with some globalist agenda that ultimately costs you more money.
00:39:33.000Like, they're one of the fourth, I think they're about the fourth biggest corporation.
00:39:36.000You know, like when you see that list?
00:39:38.000In fact, let's pull that up, young Putin.
00:39:40.000Like, he just looks a bit like young Putin.
00:39:42.000I'm not advocating for Russia's actions in Ukraine.
00:39:45.000Like, when you see that list of the 100 most powerful NAEs in the world, like, of the top 100, like 20 of them are countries, the rest of them are corporations!
00:39:55.000We're beyond the point where national sovereignty and the power of the nation, and therefore the power of democracy, are the dominant forces in our culture.
00:41:12.000Because I understand how people must be pissed off at being blamed for something.
00:41:17.000Because I think that's ultimately what it comes down to.
00:41:19.000Is everyday people, working class people, are told the problem lies with you.
00:41:24.000It's that you're not recycling enough, that you're not changing your cars to electric vehicles that cost an absolute fortune.
00:41:30.000Still have to be ran from energy from somewhere.
00:41:32.000The problem is you, and so people rail against that and go either it's not real or they're just trying to, you know, change us to some one world government type stuff.
00:41:41.000And I get that, but the problem is if you then say, oh actually there's nothing wrong with Exxon Mobil and BP, you're also wrong.
00:44:25.000It's funded by taxpayer money, the investigation, probably, you know, through BioNTech, so it's German, you know, taxpayers, presumably, and ultimately bought by taxpayer money.
00:44:35.000They weren't giving it away free, like sweeties.
00:44:38.000So in the end, we're extracted from the profit, we're included in the funding, but extracted from the profit.
00:46:31.000Alright, so we're going to describe to you anarcho-syndicalism and you guys can tell us if you think it's going to work as we discuss alternative ways of organising our reality.
00:46:39.000And before you criticise it, have a look at your own reality and see if you like it very much.
00:46:45.000Have a look at this country, the one I live in, reversing budgets and doing mini-budgets and half-budgets and quarter-budgets and pseudo-budgets and demi-budgets and miss-budgets and dis-budgets.
00:48:00.000You'll remember that when Joe Biden was campaigning to be president, a glorious time that fortunately ended with Joe Biden as president, he said he was going to decriminalize cannabis.
00:48:09.000He wasn't going to go to Saudi Arabia and do deals with them.
00:48:13.000He was going to put caps on big pharma prices.
00:48:16.000Now, he hasn't really done any of those things.
00:48:19.000What he's done is fudged versions of those things that are kind of gestures, empty, hollow, shallow gestures that don't really help Anybody.
00:48:29.000And nothing demonstrates this mentality more clearly than what began as a pledge to decriminalize cannabis.
00:48:35.000It actually, as a piece of propaganda, looked quite good.
00:50:18.000You can't do that because of lobbyists for the prison industry need the prison population to be relatively stable.
00:50:23.000Maybe people that are Republican or right wing or whatever you want to describe it as, you use your own words, but they might be anti the idea of people that are drug dealers being released.
00:51:29.000You can make a good profit on that if you tell people it doesn't kill them, which... Oh, shit!
00:51:33.000I'm asking the Secretary of Health and Human Services and the Attorney General to initiate a process to review how marijuana is scheduled under federal law.
00:51:41.000This pledge amounts to a person telling you that they're going to ask for something.
00:51:46.000I'm asking the Secretary of Health and Human Services...
00:51:48.000That's not enough, is it, for the Commander-in-Chief?
00:51:50.000Well, I'm gonna give him a damn good asking.
00:52:46.000Joe Biden repeatedly promised on the 2020 campaign trial that he would pardon everyone serving time in federal prisons for marijuana and expunge their records.
00:52:53.000Last week, he seemed to belatedly carry out on that promise, announcing with great fanfare that he was issuing thousands of pardons.
00:53:00.000The problem is that he's now reinterpreted his previous talk of releasing everyone in federal prison for marijuana in such a narrow way that his partner won't release even one federal prisoner.
00:53:20.000It only applies to federal convictions for simple possession, a crime for which literally no one is currently serving time in federal prison.
00:53:36.000Biden also announced the beginning of a process that might eventually lead to marijuana being taken off Schedule 1, the federal government's classification for the most dangerous drugs with no accepted medical uses.
00:53:46.000Could you say that Biden also announced the beginning of a process that might eventually lead to marijuana being taken off Schedule 1?
00:54:08.000Where does power really lie when the best a president can do is might and maybes and asking, while pharmaceutical giants can sort of like wrench us into a situation where medicines are almost mandated without being trialled for efficacy?
00:54:26.000The reason that everyone giggles and laughs when they see Biden fluffing his lines and stumbling over words is because Because it reveals what we all deep down know to be true.
00:54:36.000That is simply a vessel, a mouthpiece for actual power.
00:54:39.000The Democrat Party is owned by lobbyists.
00:54:41.000I would contest, so are the Republican Party.
00:54:44.000Everything beyond that is a meaningless spectacle that we engage with to varying degrees, knowing deep down in our heart of hearts that that channel will never lead to any meaningful change.
00:54:54.000And this is yet another example of that.
00:54:56.000Decriminalising cannabis might take it off schedule one, not one prisoner released.
00:55:03.000So if you've seen any TV shows where people are like, hey, Joe Biden really, you know, all going and jokes and treating it all light and like it's, Joe better not smoke any, he's forgetful enough as it is, and all that sort of light, high crap.
00:55:14.000Really, what should be happening is serious opposition to this kind of senseless, nihilistic, plastic governance.
00:55:21.000All in all, it's a baby step in the right direction.
00:55:26.000But he falls well short of his campaign promise and leaves thousands of people languishing in federal prison for non-violent marijuana offences.
00:55:34.000The pardon does not cover convictions for possessions of other drugs or for charges relating to producing or distributing marijuana.
00:55:41.000We've been trained to accept piecemeal and gestural politics as opposed to the real thing.
00:55:48.000If you're going to get into drug use and narcotics, really what ought to happen is some wide-scale decriminalisation, meaningful control over those substances, available therapies for people with addiction issues.
00:56:00.000What's happening here is like they're trying to find the narrow crack Through which you can appear to be doing something without offending genuine powerful interests, isn't it?
00:56:09.000Like, can't offend the prison lobby and their, you know, powerful privatised interests and their lobbying groups.
00:56:14.000Can't offend whatever other interests are involved, I don't know, tobacco, alcohol, people that are really just dead against any sort of moral decline.
00:56:22.000So through that tiny gap that exists between those opposing sets of ideas, you can just get like a meaningless pipsqueak Fart of policy.
00:56:32.000Now we're all supposed to stand around clapping.
00:56:35.000As a presidential candidate, Mr Biden also promised to decriminalise cannabis use.
00:56:39.000Fulfilling that promise should be the easiest of easy calls.
00:56:42.000As a matter of principle, it's awfully hard to argue with a straight face that buying, selling or possessing a pound or two of marijuana.
00:56:47.000is somehow worse than buying, selling or possessing a fifth of vodka.
00:56:51.000And as a matter of politics, it's a slam dunk.
00:56:53.000Ending the war on cannabis is wildly popular.
00:56:55.000According to a Gallup poll last year, 68% of Americans support not just pardons, but full federal legalisation.
00:57:01.000That poll found that even Republicans were split down the middle on the issue, with 50% supporting full legalisation and 49% opposing it.
00:57:07.000Other polls in the last few years have showed a somewhat larger Republican majority for legalisation.
00:57:12.000The pardons come a month before November's congressional midterm elections, which will determine the power balance in Washington for the last two years of Mr Biden's term.
00:57:20.000Mr Biden is not the first US president to pardon cannabis offenders.
00:57:23.000On his final day in office, Donald Trump pardoned 12 marijuana offenders, including some who have been jailed for life under the free strikes rule created by Mr Biden's 1994 crime bill.
00:57:34.000This is basically an old man apologising by doing basically nothing for a problem that he caused.
00:57:40.000That's not cause for celebration, that's cause for radical change and recognition that the systems that we live within are incapable of doing anything other than offering us theatre with unattractive people in the lead parts.
00:57:51.000Too many lives have been upended because of our failed approach to marijuana.
00:57:55.000Your approach was literally your own idea.
00:57:58.000Wouldn't you expect any public figure to say, and actually this is a bit ironic because I came up with it, and admitting that it's basically nothing.
00:58:08.000As a White House candidate, Mr Biden was criticised for writing the 1994 crime bill that stiffened penalties for drug crimes and led to more incarceration of minorities.
00:58:17.000I imagine that the reality is Joe Biden is a career politician who only became president because it was his turn.
00:58:23.000He's been in Congress for so long he'll have deep entrenched relationships But that's just what I think.
00:58:27.000Let me know what you think in the comments.
00:58:29.000Let me know what you think in the chat.
00:58:30.000he will be completely incapable due to systemic corruption of introducing any legislation that will make
00:58:36.000any meaningful difference to the lives of ordinary American people.
00:58:39.000If your life improves as a result of a decision Joe Biden made, it's by accident.
01:00:21.000I'm a man, a regular man made out of bad stuff.
01:00:24.000On this, quickly though, on the subject of ice cream, Steve Sacks says, I'm gonna call you out on egg flavoured ice cream, it's called French Vanilla or Custard and it's awesome.
01:01:52.000As president, I'll work to reform the criminal justice system, improve community policing, decriminalise marijuana, and automatically expunge prior marijuana convictions.
01:02:49.000They lobby that one, then they lobby that one.
01:02:51.000So, Anna, an interesting thing Anna Gunderson, Assistant Professor of Political Science at Louisa State University pointed out, Democrat governors who barely win their elections outspend and out-incarcerate their Republican counterparts.
01:03:02.000Democrats were afraid to look weak on crime and instead supported policies at least as punitive or even more punitive than their Republican counterparts.
01:03:10.000They adopted tough on crime measures to curry favour and siphon voters who were voting Republican because of their crime platform.
01:03:16.000None of our audience will believe, Gareth, no matter what you say, That the Democrat Party are bad.
01:03:58.000Currently illegal drugs have not always been illegal.
01:04:01.000During the Civil War, morphine, that's a type of delicious heroin, was found to have Had pain-killing properties and soon became the main ingredient in several patent medicines.
01:04:09.000In the late 19th century, marijuana and cocaine were put to various medical uses.
01:04:13.000Marijuana to treat migraines, rheumatism, and insomnia.
01:04:56.000So, there's no, like, objective position on narcotics that's fundamentally right.
01:05:00.000What I'll talk to you about is the bacchanalian spirit, or the spirit of Dionysus, which I've mentioned to you before.
01:05:05.000It's the ability to access ecstasy within yourself, so you recognise there are different realms of consciousness, which is part of your life.
01:05:12.000You don't want the state regulating your state.
01:05:15.000Your state of consciousness Is your own business?
01:05:18.000Unless of course you're me and I'm a drug addict and I shouldn't take drugs under basically any circumstances because it's been proven that I become basically unreliable.
01:05:43.000The first anti-opium laws in the 1870s were directed at Chinese folk.
01:05:47.000The first anti-cocaine laws in the early 1900s were directed at black men in the south.
01:05:51.000The first anti-marijuana laws in the midwest and the southwest in the 1910s and 20s were directed at Mexican migrants and Mexican-Americans, today Latino, and especially black communities are still subject to wildly disproportionate drug enforcement and sentencing practices, which our man mentioned, didn't he, Joe Biden, when he was doing his propaganda?
01:06:17.000Now, whether you take drugs or don't take drugs, which I consider to be none of my business, if you're taking drugs and it's bad for you, I'd like to help you.
01:06:23.000If you're taking drugs and you're having a lovely time, I'm a bit jealous of you.
01:06:26.000You could alter your psychic state using a variety of means.
01:06:30.000One, you could educate yourself with our podcast Subcutaneous.
01:06:33.000Two, you could alter your consciousness by learning different meditation techniques on my podcast Stay Awake.
01:06:40.000Three, You could just listen to this podcast that you're watching right now as a live stream, as a podcast, a bit later, probably learn a bit more, maybe spot some stuff that you'd missed earlier and think, bloody hell, I shouldn't have said that, that was a bit irresponsible.
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01:08:00.000And I had a good argument with him in front of some school children at a school that I was meant to be at with him for an interview at Penguin Books.
01:08:07.000And I was like, hang on a minute, why are you telling these kids they all need to learn coding?
01:08:10.000We could tell them to smash the state and organise against this AI revolution that you're telling us is inevitable.
01:08:17.000The Penguin Publisher people were like, oh, hold on, this is going wrong.
01:08:20.000They didn't invite you back to that school, did they?
01:08:51.000You wouldn't just be trying to work out when he texts and doesn't.
01:08:53.000You'd think, well, why don't I make myself a personal fortune and then use that to not care whether or not other people's approval is gleaned.
01:08:59.000I'll just have my own approval, my big stack of money, go to the moon when I feel like it, Help Ukraine with their internet, then say they're not going to help Ukraine, then help them again.
01:09:32.000Focus on me, because I want to understand it.
01:09:34.000I've been talking about it for years, I still don't know what it means.
01:09:36.000Anarcho-syndicalism is a political philosophy and anarchist school of thought that views revolutionary industrial unionism, or syndicalism, as a method for workers in capitalist society to gain control of an economy and thus control influence in broader society.
01:09:52.000So, even though that model will not be relevant now, the industrialization is entered into another phase and much of our manufacturing is in, I say our, because it's in like different countries now, isn't it?
01:10:03.000It's in like Indian subcontinent, elsewhere and stuff.
01:10:06.000I'd say the idea that you're in control of your own community and workplace is a good idea and will be explored.
01:10:13.000And before you rush to, I'm not doing that, I'm not doing that, just think about the chaos and craziness in the world right now.
01:10:18.000And also forget the abstract, You know, somewhat abstract geopolitical conditions, although obviously it will ultimately affect us all.
01:10:42.000Having control in your own life can never be a bad thing, unless you're some sort of lovely little nitwit.
01:10:47.000Right, now let's talk... What's the next bit?
01:10:50.000The end goal of syndicalism is to abolish the wage system, regarding it as wage slavery.
01:10:54.000Anarcho-syndicalist theory generally focuses on the labor movement, too, reflecting the anarchist philosophy from which it draws its primary inspiration.
01:11:03.000Anarcho-syndicalism is centered on the idea that power corrupts, and that any hierarchy that cannot be ethically justified must be dismantled.
01:11:11.000See, this key phrase cannot be ethically justified.
01:11:14.000Now, a lot of you will love JP, won't you?
01:11:36.000But what you don't want is ultimately for medicine to be in the hands of profiteers.
01:11:41.000When you look at the last few years where we've lurched from crisis to crisis, 2001 and the resource wars that came out of that, 2008 and the economic impiccunity induced by that deliberate market crashing.
01:11:55.0002019 and the pandemic and the way that the pandemic was handled in it seems in a way that led to powerful interests becoming more powerful.
01:12:03.000You have to recognize that systemic change is required.
01:12:06.000I'm not an EU having stuff or having power in your life or your traditions or your diet or your but I don't actually care.
01:12:13.000I actually think that the only way to diffuse the culture war is to recognize let people run their own communities.
01:12:19.000If some people want an ultra ultra progressive life inverted commas Let them.
01:12:49.000Well, I guess, you know, when you're talking about the industrial revolution that we were kind of touched on earlier, I guess now you could compare that to the way in which big tech operates and, you know, the giant, massive social media companies.
01:13:01.000There is a call by some people for those to be publicly run.
01:13:04.000And you've got to think how different our society would be now if they were.
01:13:08.000Do you know we heard though the other day that the reason that they won't ever introduce regulatory measures is because big tech and government agencies have already merged.
01:13:28.000They already have, you can check this out yourself, they have MI5 operatives, CIA operatives, not in insignificant roles either, in the control of information.
01:13:37.000So the state and big tech are already operating cohesively.
01:13:55.000They ultimately benefit from a culture where people on the inverted commas left and right are, well it's their fault, it's the people on the left or it's the people on the right.
01:14:04.000If you're able to go, I'm not going to think about that for five years, for five years I'm not going to think about it, I promise you some very good results.
01:14:12.000That's why when I'm Chancellor, this little guy Please, Bailey, you can only see his titmouse!
01:14:24.000It's not as easy as I... Damn you, Kuatang!
01:14:27.000Turns out that economics is quite complicated, even when it's a metaphor for economics.
01:14:32.000Let's read the rest of this anarcho-syndicalist analysis available on Wikipedia and then we'll see if we can establish new systems of government and empower people.
01:14:53.000People want to run their own lives because you evolved.
01:14:56.000You didn't evolve to live in a centralised system of governance where you're some little pipsqueak placating yourself on commodity on screens and sugar.
01:15:05.000The basic principles of anarcho-syndicalism are solidarity, direct action, action undertaken without the intervention of third parties such as politicians, bureaucrats and arbiters.
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