Stay Free - Russel Brand - February 06, 2026


The Battle For Britain’s Countryside — SF679


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 11 minutes

Words per Minute

187.32962

Word Count

13,469

Sentence Count

1,077

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

43


Summary

Join Russell Brand and Jake Smith as they take a look at the Epstein files, and the people in them, and how they could have been involved in the Epstein scandal. Plus, a special guest appearance from none other than Lord Voldemort himself!


Transcript

00:00:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand, actually, Russell, Russell Brand, controversial conspiracy theorist, trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
00:00:17.000 Epstein files, we've been looking at the Epstein files, it's just a lovely bunch of pedophiles, they've been swimming around for a while, you gotta smile, they're...
00:00:30.000 There's Bill Clint and Bill Gates having a nice time.
00:00:37.000 They are all noncinner and trafficking and doing sex crimes.
00:00:44.000 They'll say it's not so tough.
00:00:47.000 A little bit of muff.
00:00:49.000 Traffic from afar on the Epstein files.
00:00:53.000 We're living in the Epstein.
00:00:55.000 So hello.
00:00:57.000 Remember, don't take life too seriously because one day, unless you're in Christ, it's the old eternal lake of fire fuckers.
00:01:06.000 You're joining me, Russell Brand, on stay free with Russell Brand on Rumble.
00:01:10.000 Wherever you're watching us, click the link in the description.
00:01:12.000 Get on over.
00:01:13.000 Join us.
00:01:14.000 We have assembled a mighty army.
00:01:15.000 We are ready for the apocalypse.
00:01:16.000 We're ready for Armageddon.
00:01:18.000 What is the first requirement to be ready for Armageddon?
00:01:20.000 You've got to die for this shit.
00:01:22.000 You can't be quivering like a little nimsy in the corner or worried about your wiggle worm.
00:01:26.000 Oh no, it's gone back in my body.
00:01:29.000 No, You've got to get ready.
00:01:32.000 You've got to fight for your right to party.
00:01:34.000 The beastie boys knew that.
00:01:36.000 But were they?
00:01:37.000 Epstein Files.
00:01:39.000 We've been living in the Epstein Isles.
00:01:42.000 We went to that weird ceramic temple.
00:01:45.000 Happy days.
00:01:46.000 Happy days.
00:01:46.000 Happy times.
00:01:47.000 Today on the show, we're not actually talking about the Epstein Files because we've talked about them quite a lot.
00:01:53.000 We know who's in there.
00:01:54.000 We know what's going on.
00:01:55.000 Pay attention to the powerful people.
00:01:56.000 Pay attention to the money.
00:01:57.000 Think about the reasons and pray, Lord, pray for the victims and those that suffer as a result of this.
00:02:03.000 I'm joined, as always, by Louisiana's own Jake Smith.
00:02:06.000 Hello, Jake.
00:02:07.000 Woo!
00:02:08.000 You been alright?
00:02:08.000 Made any albums this week?
00:02:10.000 Not this week.
00:02:11.000 Well, what's going on?
00:02:13.000 Why are you hanging around in church parking lots like a hooker at a truck stop going, anyone need, anyone need a riff?
00:02:21.000 Anyone need a riff?
00:02:22.000 Because that's where the money's at.
00:02:25.000 That's where the money's at.
00:02:26.000 There's old Dave Fields there.
00:02:28.000 Dave Fields, he's never met an app he didn't like.
00:02:31.000 We're actually working on some projects together.
00:02:33.000 Dave, you're just apps are flowing out of you like wine.
00:02:37.000 Yeah.
00:02:38.000 It's fun.
00:02:39.000 You're good.
00:02:40.000 I enjoy it.
00:02:40.000 You're a good entrepreneur.
00:02:42.000 I love it.
00:02:42.000 I enjoy it.
00:02:43.000 It'll be good when you're rich, but just do remember to look after the rest of us.
00:02:47.000 That's all I ask.
00:02:48.000 I hope you're enjoying this new shot as well.
00:02:50.000 That's one of the things that we're doing now in this pre-taped show: we are establishing.
00:02:55.000 And you come in, I don't know how close you are on me, Liam.
00:02:57.000 Can you see everything?
00:02:58.000 Can you see the money makers?
00:03:00.000 Take a good look at these because it's the last time you'll be seeing them for a while.
00:03:05.000 Unless you are Joe McCann, who is in Redding Redding, will kick your effing head in England, more or less.
00:03:11.000 Is that where you are, mate, in Redding?
00:03:13.000 Where I am, mate.
00:03:14.000 Yeah, it's bedtime here in the UK.
00:03:16.000 That's why I look all vulnerable.
00:03:17.000 You do look vulnerable.
00:03:18.000 And also, I wouldn't suggest a Technicolor pillow for a man of your state.
00:03:23.000 Like, you need something clean, mate.
00:03:25.000 Your mind is already full of electricity.
00:03:28.000 That's like an Aztec's pillow.
00:03:29.000 That's devil worship, that pillow.
00:03:31.000 What's going on with that?
00:03:32.000 How come?
00:03:33.000 It's very colourful.
00:03:35.000 It's a bit too psychedelic, innit?
00:03:37.000 A bit leery.
00:03:38.000 I'd say it's borderline false gods, that.
00:03:40.000 That's false gods, that pillow.
00:03:41.000 That's almost like you're worshiping it.
00:03:43.000 It's giving me a migraine.
00:03:45.000 You could give anyone a migraine.
00:03:46.000 Now, you've got to be careful.
00:03:47.000 Don't look at it.
00:03:48.000 Stay alert.
00:03:49.000 Stay focused.
00:03:50.000 With us is beloved Massey, who's got the enviable task of cutting all this up at some time later.
00:03:57.000 I always think that you look like, I mean, that's really effective lighting you've got wherever you are.
00:04:01.000 Very effective lighting.
00:04:02.000 You could be anywhere.
00:04:03.000 You could be in an arc.
00:04:04.000 Oh, now we're talking, maybe.
00:04:06.000 Changes made stuff.
00:04:07.000 I'm in my mum's attic, not my mum's basement, but same shit at the end of the day.
00:04:11.000 Basically, the same thing.
00:04:12.000 I mean, just being upstairs.
00:04:13.000 Any non-room in your mother's residence is a potential serial killer issue, I would say.
00:04:20.000 We've got a lot to talk about today.
00:04:22.000 We're talking about the UK, wherever you're watching.
00:04:24.000 Just remember to join us on Rumble.
00:04:25.000 If you ain't got Rumble Premium yet, get Rumble Premium Now.
00:04:28.000 Additional content from me, from Crowder.
00:04:29.000 We've got to go on his show.
00:04:30.000 We've got to go on Crowder Show.
00:04:32.000 We've got to go to Dallas.
00:04:34.000 Nikki!
00:04:35.000 Nurse Nikki!
00:04:36.000 Nurse!
00:04:38.000 Nikki!
00:04:39.000 We've got Nurse Nikki now.
00:04:41.000 Things are good.
00:04:41.000 We've always got the availability of Wow Nurse.
00:04:45.000 How's it going?
00:04:45.000 That's a hell of an entrance.
00:04:47.000 We should be getting issued NADs at all times, I would say.
00:04:50.000 We just called you in because we're thinking about when are we going to go to Dallas?
00:04:53.000 Would you mind being on?
00:04:54.000 Oh, yeah, go.
00:04:55.000 Liam's got you.
00:04:55.000 You're on camera.
00:04:56.000 Brilliant.
00:04:57.000 He's already paying his own salary, this kid.
00:04:59.000 Young Liam Sullivan there, Chelsea fan.
00:05:02.000 What he didn't learn on the shed, he made up inside his own head.
00:05:05.000 Nikki, thanks for joining us.
00:05:06.000 We're thinking that it's very important that we go on.
00:05:09.000 Is that camera working?
00:05:10.000 Are we going to use Liam?
00:05:11.000 Like, we've got a few things that we're going to do because when this secret project is ready, we can't talk about the secret project yet, but my word, the secret project, you are going to love it.
00:05:21.000 You are going to love it.
00:05:22.000 When we're ready for the secret project, we've got to go on.
00:05:24.000 Everyone's show got going.
00:05:25.000 Megan Kelly got to go on Tucker.
00:05:26.000 Got to do something with Tate.
00:05:27.000 Got to go on.
00:05:28.000 Candice got to go on.
00:05:29.000 We've got to go on the lad, the funny lad, Theo.
00:05:33.000 Theo, got to go on Sean Ryan, friends of him.
00:05:35.000 So we've got to get all this booked.
00:05:36.000 It's big.
00:05:37.000 Something big is coming down the pipe.
00:05:39.000 I don't mean in a kind of constipation way.
00:05:40.000 I mean, something big is coming down the pipe.
00:05:43.000 Something big and positive.
00:05:44.000 It would be coming soon.
00:05:46.000 So watch out around March.
00:05:47.000 Watch out around Easter for something glorious and life-changing in the holy name.
00:05:51.000 So yeah, you've just got to work out.
00:05:53.000 I mean, we called you in here essentially because Jake shouted your name like a madman and I just went with him.
00:05:59.000 Yeah, thank you very much for coming.
00:06:01.000 You enjoying your work here so far?
00:06:02.000 Yeah.
00:06:03.000 Good.
00:06:03.000 You've been on camera now and you've also said that on camera.
00:06:06.000 So there we go.
00:06:06.000 That's all of the evidence we need.
00:06:08.000 Nurse Nikki, please stay alert because you don't know when we may need to be administered an electrolyte.
00:06:13.000 You're interested in alternative therapies, aren't you, nurse?
00:06:17.000 I am.
00:06:17.000 These are very important.
00:06:18.000 I want, I'll take some right now.
00:06:19.000 Please.
00:06:20.000 Thank you.
00:06:21.000 Yeah, get yourself loaded up on electrolytes and remember too, the methylene blue.
00:06:25.000 Have you started that?
00:06:26.000 No.
00:06:26.000 Is Sam taking them, your husband, Mr. Brown?
00:06:29.000 No, we do have the tallow.
00:06:30.000 You've got the tallow.
00:06:31.000 You're cooking with it or you're putting the one on your face.
00:06:33.000 Yeah, I like it on my hands.
00:06:35.000 Yeah.
00:06:36.000 Remember, you can subscribe to Reborn.
00:06:37.000 You'll be really helping me in my war against what I consider to be the evil Empire, funding us in our legal battle.
00:06:44.000 Remember, also, I've got to get some new bed spreads for dear old Jake.
00:06:47.000 I mean, for Joe, actually.
00:06:48.000 I'm going to get you.
00:06:50.000 I want to get you like a Superman bed spread, something like that.
00:06:52.000 What I had when I was a kid.
00:06:53.000 What did you have as your bedspread, Joe?
00:06:55.000 What did you have when you were little, mate?
00:06:58.000 I had an Arsenal one and I've had a SpongeBob SquarePants one and all.
00:07:01.000 I weren't that little then.
00:07:02.000 I was in jail, actually.
00:07:04.000 When I've got SpongeBob SquarePants, SpongeBob in jail?
00:07:07.000 Yeah, SpongeBob, SquarePants.
00:07:10.000 Bedset.
00:07:11.000 That's amazing.
00:07:12.000 I don't think when you're at Her Majesty's pleasure, as it was then, that you should be allowed the privileges of a SpongeBob.
00:07:20.000 Where'd you get it?
00:07:21.000 It was a privilege.
00:07:22.000 You had to be an enhanced prisoner and you could order it from Argos.
00:07:27.000 What's required in order to become an enhanced prisoner, mate?
00:07:31.000 You've got to apply for it after you've done six months.
00:07:34.000 And if you've not gotten any trouble or nothing, they'll let you have it.
00:07:37.000 Then you can order nice little treats from Argos.
00:07:41.000 He's stayed out of trouble.
00:07:42.000 He's been a good lad, six months.
00:07:44.000 He's paid his debt to society.
00:07:46.000 Give him a SpongeBob bed spread to show him there's a way back for everybody.
00:07:51.000 Should we go to the bottom?
00:07:51.000 Give him a cellmate a nurse so she can go back to work.
00:07:54.000 Yeah, Nicky.
00:07:56.000 Round of applause for me.
00:07:56.000 She's amazing.
00:07:57.000 What a woman.
00:07:58.000 What a woman.
00:07:59.000 Thank you for bringing the femininity and the power back into this filthy testosterone film-filled boys club where without Nurse Nikki's presence, and even to a degree with it, we actually end up just talking about Joe's jail bedspread.
00:08:13.000 That's the level of conversation that we find ourselves at.
00:08:16.000 And remember, if you ain't got tickets to come see me in the Florida panhandle, get them now.
00:08:22.000 A funny thing happened on my way to church.
00:08:26.000 A title given to me by the great Gary Oldman.
00:08:28.000 Not directly.
00:08:28.000 I don't want to drag him into some of the nightmares I've been through.
00:08:30.000 The fella has been through enough, but it was a title someone going to.
00:08:33.000 I told Gary Oldman, he said, call it that.
00:08:35.000 So come and see me.
00:08:36.000 I'll be talking about how I came to Christ.
00:08:38.000 It's good stuff.
00:08:39.000 There's some preaching.
00:08:40.000 Oh, there's preaching, baby.
00:08:41.000 Is there preaching?
00:08:42.000 They're singing.
00:08:42.000 Jake will sing a song.
00:08:44.000 Who knows with?
00:08:45.000 Jake will probably meet someone on the way there.
00:08:48.000 Have an album out by the time he gets there.
00:08:50.000 I'm not singing that.
00:08:51.000 Come on, Jake.
00:08:52.000 Jake, is it fantastic?
00:08:54.000 Listen to Jake Smith's music on Spotify if he gets enough listens and he'll realize that, you know, behind this teasing is nothing but love.
00:09:03.000 Have you noticed that the British countryside is full of white people?
00:09:08.000 And I'm sick of it.
00:09:09.000 Everywhere I look, just another honky, just another honky.
00:09:13.000 When I go countryside, I want to see N-Word after N-Word after N-Word.
00:09:19.000 I want to see Somalians here, Moroccans there, Egyptians there.
00:09:24.000 I don't want to wander through there looking at Icelandic folk and albinos.
00:09:28.000 The albinos, they've took it too far.
00:09:30.000 I want them to be just the right shade of white.
00:09:33.000 This is, of course, the story that in Britain, there's a political dispute over identity.
00:09:40.000 Everyone's going crazy.
00:09:41.000 It's because of Kier Starmer.
00:09:42.000 love him.
00:09:43.000 Keir Starmer, a man more focused on, I mean, look, we joke about it a lot on this show.
00:09:47.000 Keir Starmer is a child of God and we love him and he's trying his best.
00:09:51.000 But when you see videos of him, like walking along next to an helicopter and trying to be all military, he don't look right, does he?
00:09:57.000 Look.
00:09:57.000 And when you see him like trying to get involved in campaigns, like when he sat next to that little kid going, oh, what are you doing?
00:10:02.000 Making San Katoplestascine, are you?
00:10:05.000 He don't look right, does he?
00:10:06.000 And when about 40, 50 years after everyone stopped caring about AIDS, because all you have to do is take a tablet and it's out of bleeding window, he started talking about AIDS tests.
00:10:15.000 Yeah, I've done the important work.
00:10:17.000 I've had AIDS test.
00:10:18.000 You got YouTube too.
00:10:20.000 Look down that little spile, pull it wide open, open it up, peel it like a banana, and you'll see if there's any monkey business going on down there.
00:10:29.000 You never know.
00:10:30.000 You never know where you put it, where you put it.
00:10:32.000 Don't leave your purping slippers in the wrong place.
00:10:34.000 You could pay a terrible, terrible price.
00:10:36.000 Don't take my word for it.
00:10:37.000 Ask Mark Almond.
00:10:38.000 I don't mean Mark Almond, actually.
00:10:39.000 I think he's still alive.
00:10:40.000 And HIV 3, praise the Lord.
00:10:42.000 Keep them protected.
00:10:43.000 Protect our beloved ones.
00:10:44.000 But the fact is, is that Britain is undergoing a cultural identity crisis.
00:10:48.000 Check out this.
00:10:50.000 A Telegraph headline, Telegraphed British newspaper, of course, sets up controversy over initiatives aimed at making the countryside less white, framing rural England as a space in need of ideological correction.
00:11:01.000 That's probably, do you know what they're doing?
00:11:03.000 They're trying to shut down them farmer protests because there's a good agricultural movement coming up out of the UK right now.
00:11:08.000 The farmers who've had enough of all these top-down e-dicks out of the EU, you've got to use this fertiliser.
00:11:14.000 You can't use that fuel.
00:11:15.000 Sit down.
00:11:16.000 Call that sheep.
00:11:17.000 Your cow farts are ruining our country.
00:11:19.000 The farmers are fighting back.
00:11:21.000 And when farmers fight back, it's serious gear because they'll go down parliament and sort of spray shit everywhere.
00:11:26.000 It's amazing because they've got good kit, haven't they?
00:11:28.000 They can block roads easy, spray manure.
00:11:30.000 I love these farmers, man.
00:11:32.000 I love farmers.
00:11:33.000 Say no to stama.
00:11:35.000 That's basically the message.
00:11:36.000 And probably making Britain and the British countryside less white is a kind of cultural attack.
00:11:41.000 I mean, imagine if you went to Japan and said, few too many Japanese around here, aren't they?
00:11:45.000 Look at them.
00:11:45.000 You can't trust them, crafty little devils.
00:11:47.000 Remember the war?
00:11:48.000 They was a cruel people.
00:11:50.000 A cruel people.
00:11:51.000 Bamboo shoots under the fingernails and the Sikhs working as prison guards.
00:11:55.000 You can't fucking trust them.
00:11:57.000 They don't like it up.
00:11:58.000 If racism's wrong, it's wrong on the basis that you shouldn't judge people on the basis of a set of characteristics that are not connected to character, right?
00:12:09.000 As the great Martin Luther King said, judge us not by the colour of our skin but by the content of our character.
00:12:14.000 That's a universal law.
00:12:16.000 And the very idea that you can make universal statements is under attack now because they want us to believe there is no God but them.
00:12:21.000 By them, I mean these institutions of bureaucratic power who are using technology now to induce and introduce levels of control that are inconceivable.
00:12:30.000 How inconceivable?
00:12:32.000 Well, for example, getting involved in social engineering in the British countryside.
00:12:39.000 Let's have a little look at that story now.
00:12:44.000 So look, it says here, diversity drive to make Britain's countryside less white.
00:12:49.000 They don't mean the grass and that, which is green, and presumably they want to leave it that colour.
00:12:53.000 They mean the folks what live there.
00:12:54.000 Rural areas tasked with coming up with strategies to attract more ethnic minorities that reflect a multi-cultural nation.
00:13:00.000 You got it.
00:13:01.000 Like, what a weird abstract concept.
00:13:03.000 Just leave us alone.
00:13:04.000 Stop doing social engineering.
00:13:06.000 Do you know what we need?
00:13:07.000 Muslims in the countryside.
00:13:09.000 I mean, like, just let people be who they are, where they are.
00:13:12.000 Stop it.
00:13:12.000 It's not Disneyland.
00:13:13.000 You don't need to curate it.
00:13:14.000 It's not Epcot Centre.
00:13:15.000 Why don't we have a little bit over there where everyone's Chinese?
00:13:18.000 Have a little bit over there where it's guardians of the galaxy ride.
00:13:22.000 Let people get on with their lives.
00:13:24.000 The British countryside will be made into a less white environment under nationwide diversity plans.
00:13:28.000 Officials in rural areas, including the Chewans, I've got house there, and the Cotswolds, cracking place, have pledged to attract more minorities.
00:13:36.000 Pledged.
00:13:36.000 We're gonna do it.
00:13:37.000 Don't worry, we've got a pledge.
00:13:39.000 Plans drawn up by the Department of Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, DEFRA.
00:13:43.000 The plans follow DEFRA's commissioned report that claimed the countryside would become irrelevant in a multi-cultural cultural society as it was a white environment principally enjoyed by the white middle class.
00:13:54.000 Now, what this is, is social engineering.
00:13:56.000 There was a massive farmer protest in the UK 20 years back when they were going to ban fox hunting, as a matter of fact.
00:14:01.000 Now, right back then, I was a vegan myself and would have been against fox hunting.
00:14:06.000 I'm still a bit against fox hunting.
00:14:07.000 I mean, I really, really love foxes and think it's out of order.
00:14:10.000 But what I've subsequently learned to understand is that metropolitan areas like to impose control over rural people.
00:14:17.000 It's a way of ensuring that centralization infuses every area of cultural and public life.
00:14:23.000 And what they've worked out is, oh, people in the countryside are just cracking on, getting on with their own lives.
00:14:27.000 Now, me, I'm very sensitive to class politics.
00:14:31.000 Indeed, the aspects of socialism to which I'm most sensitive and about which I'm most interested pertain to class politics.
00:14:36.000 I don't like concentration of wealth and power in small pockets, particularly when it's not representative of artwork, it's representative of sometimes nepotism, sometimes imperialism.
00:14:49.000 It's pretty corrupt, actually.
00:14:50.000 But this is social engineering that we're experiencing now.
00:14:54.000 Let's have a look at this lady here saying that it's pretty difficult to create the perfect utopia with a Sikh, a Muslim, a Jew, and a Christian all enjoying a pint together in a country pub.
00:15:05.000 One, because some of those religions don't drink alcohol, because of real cultural reasons.
00:15:10.000 And indeed, if you're making claims to the type of objectivity that any ideology requires, i.e., you have to be certain that you're right, then you've got to take into mind the very least the contradiction that comes when you say native people from this set of land need to be respected and honoured, and native people from this land we want to destroy their culture.
00:15:33.000 You have to honor and acknowledge the contradiction, nay, hypocrisy.
00:15:38.000 We've got a problem.
00:15:39.000 It's a lot about, yeah, it's a lot about the national parks and getting people out there and making national parks for everybody.
00:15:48.000 And one of the problems is dogs.
00:15:51.000 And actually, this isn't just about the fact that a lot of Muslims find dogs very difficult.
00:15:57.000 It is about people who do not know how to control their dogs.
00:16:01.000 Why do Muslims find dogs difficult?
00:16:04.000 Because a lot of they don't have dogs as pets.
00:16:10.000 It's good.
00:16:11.000 It's good stuff.
00:16:12.000 It's good stuff, all of this, isn't it?
00:16:15.000 Actually, look, I want to let you know and I want to remind you that for a long time I lived in London and I lived in East London and I'm very sympathetic to the challenges faced by Muslim people and I think that it is possible for people of different cultural and racial identities to live harmoniously together.
00:16:29.000 But I don't think the way to do that is by annihilating the rights and identity of the native people, especially particularly if those people are the British because that's the tribe I'm from.
00:16:39.000 We can't make this content without the support of our partners.
00:16:41.000 Here's a message from one now.
00:16:45.000 They can freeze your accounts, they can shut off your cards, lock you out of your own money overnight.
00:16:50.000 Whether you're Canadian truckers or mouthy motherfuckers, you know the system's got ways of curtailing and controlling you.
00:16:56.000 Banks don't protect you, they control you.
00:16:58.000 That's why we are introducing and are proud to introduce the Rumble Wallet.
00:17:03.000 You can freely trade, you can freely transact and centralized systems of banking government can't control you.
00:17:08.000 That's not a euphemism.
00:17:09.000 I'm saying literally that because I know a lot of you like, Nate, you'll try and make that about the Jews, won't you?
00:17:13.000 With Rumble Wallet, you don't just buy a digital currency like Bitcoin and Tether, you can own Tether Gold, real gold on the blockchain.
00:17:20.000 Through Tether Gold, you can get direct ownership of physical gold bars, each one fully allocated, verifiable by a serial number, purity and weight.
00:17:27.000 This isn't paper gold, this isn't an IOU, this is real gold without bank vaults, storage fees or gatekeepers.
00:17:33.000 You can buy, sell or move it 24 hours a day, seven days a week, even when traditional gold markets are closed.
00:17:38.000 And if you want, tether gold can be redeemed for physical gold.
00:17:42.000 That's power.
00:17:43.000 And when you support creators on Rumble, you can tip them directly using Rumble Wallet, peer-to-peer, and outside the banking system.
00:17:49.000 No permissions, no middlemen, no cancel button.
00:17:52.000 This wallet is yours forever.
00:17:54.000 Welcome to freedom.
00:17:56.000 Welcome to the revolution.
00:17:57.000 Welcome to Rumble Wallet.
00:18:01.000 So, okay, then let's have a look at what this is.
00:18:04.000 This is the claim, the outrageous claim that the countryside is racist.
00:18:07.000 In a minute, I'll be getting the views of my beloved friends here, Dave Fields, entrepreneur and tech genius.
00:18:12.000 Some are saying, Jake Smith, musician for hire producer.
00:18:16.000 Ah, excellence and occasional sex object.
00:18:20.000 Proven to be racist or have issues with racial prejudice.
00:18:23.000 So the countryside is not exempt from that.
00:18:26.000 And what people fail to realize is that in these particularly kind of these spaces that are particularly dominated by white people, it can end up being kind of, it can feel quite exclusive.
00:18:38.000 The reason why is because these individuals share the same culture, same values, which includes food, language, music, etiquette, manners, hobbies, etc.
00:18:48.000 So when someone new comes along, that's different.
00:18:51.000 They can end up standing out like a sore thumb.
00:18:54.000 They can end up not potentially fitting in.
00:18:56.000 And then they also have to contend with the racial prejudice that kind of lies within that area.
00:19:02.000 So there's that interesting dynamic of not necessarily fitting in because you're different.
00:19:07.000 And then also racial prejudice that we have in this country.
00:19:10.000 There you go, the old countryside.
00:19:12.000 It's racist.
00:19:13.000 There's no question that there is such a thing as racism.
00:19:15.000 There is such a thing as bigotry.
00:19:16.000 There is such a thing as prejudice.
00:19:18.000 And it appears like it's a two-way street.
00:19:20.000 But what I find disheartening as a white British person is I know that the people I grew up with in Essex, I come from a relatively diverse community.
00:19:28.000 Essex where I'm from is much more diverse now than it was when I was growing up.
00:19:32.000 And I do recall the casual racist language that would be used both by the kids I went to school with against the Asian Pakistani kids and that.
00:19:41.000 It was just normal to use racist language back then.
00:19:43.000 So that's a legit point.
00:19:45.000 I also recall that people that I write loved, like my grandmother and that, would sort of just say racist stuff.
00:19:49.000 It was just normal to say that kind of thing.
00:19:52.000 But there's a difference between protocols and manners and the aspect of racism that's an indicator of real dark, nasty cruelty.
00:20:02.000 And the British people aren't dark, nasty people.
00:20:04.000 The British people, not so long ago, were willing to fight a war and lay down their lives.
00:20:09.000 I'm talking about the Second World War, of course, on a matter of high principle.
00:20:14.000 Whatever the real reasons were for World War II, and perhaps it's too complex a subject to assess and address here on this microphone on this admittedly wonderful platform, the people that fought and died in that war in significant numbers believed they were fighting for something righteous.
00:20:28.000 The same as the many service personnel that I'm honored to know, admire and adore and support this show.
00:20:34.000 They're fighting for, by their reckoning, freedom, honor, the freedom of the people that they love.
00:20:40.000 Freedom may be free to you, but it costs someone something.
00:20:44.000 Truth is, though, that when I speak to people in the forces in this country, many of them that have been in and around the military for a long while increasingly recognize that they have been exploited and lied to.
00:20:56.000 And one of the betrayals, one of the many betrayals that veterans experience and the mentality and the ideology that they have fought and died for, is when, in a very sort of pat, simplistic and reductive way, racial dynamics are trotted out in the manner that we've just seen there, where people just casually say, British people, they're racist in the countryside.
00:21:16.000 Condemn them, condemn them in a kind of a glib and rather unfair way.
00:21:21.000 What do you think about this, Dave?
00:21:22.000 You're like not from England.
00:21:23.000 You've only been there twice.
00:21:24.000 You always comment on the wrong things.
00:21:26.000 Times I've got you there.
00:21:27.000 Instead of looking at Windsor Castle, you're looking at a pebble-dashed council house.
00:21:31.000 And what's that?
00:21:32.000 What's their technique for what's there?
00:21:34.000 Oh, that's pebble dashing, sir.
00:21:35.000 Instead of looking over there, where's like houses where like Alfred the Great lived?
00:21:40.000 So, Dave, do you see that there are different class and racial dynamics and different attitudes around patriotism in the United States than in my country, the UK?
00:21:50.000 See, some similarity.
00:21:51.000 Like, my first thought when I'm looking at this clip is wrong question.
00:21:58.000 My first thought is, is it the government's job to come in and switch out or try and put in minorities in the countryside?
00:22:06.000 Like, if that was a farmer from the countryside saying, hey, we've been pretty racist.
00:22:13.000 We need to start including them.
00:22:15.000 And then I'm like, okay, yeah, sure.
00:22:19.000 Like, they're adjusting their own culture.
00:22:21.000 But when it's a government coming in to adjust their own culture.
00:22:24.000 In the morning, right?
00:22:25.000 We got up, then we had to look after cows.
00:22:28.000 Then we were out in the field, right?
00:22:29.000 We had to do the, we had to get rid of wheat and we had to bail it all up.
00:22:32.000 It took a few hours.
00:22:33.000 That was 5 a.m.
00:22:35.000 Then like between 11 and 1, we just did some focus mostly on racism.
00:22:39.000 We just went out later and we discriminated against the people of Northern Africa and then the Western African people.
00:22:45.000 Then what we done is we went out and we burned them their Qurans.
00:22:48.000 When the guy piled up some Qurans and built them, oh, it's a hard life working on the farm.
00:22:52.000 Gotta spend, firstly, there's the agricultural work.
00:22:55.000 That take a long time.
00:22:56.000 But a lot of our time is consumed with racism.
00:23:00.000 It's exhausting.
00:23:01.000 Oh, my father before me, I was before a combine harvester.
00:23:05.000 So his racism.
00:23:06.000 He had to do his racism the old-fashioned way by hand.
00:23:10.000 But nowadays, you can do a lot of your racism with Monsanto.
00:23:13.000 They'll help you plant a genetically engineered racism in the fields and your racism grow a whole crop.
00:23:19.000 And if any of that racism blows onto neighboring fields, that racism won't grow out quite as much because it's copyrighted and patented.
00:23:26.000 So we do need the government to get involved, help us to not be so racist.
00:23:29.000 Otherwise, we're so stupid being farmers and that that we'll probably go, well, I'm much more racist.
00:23:35.000 Yeah.
00:23:36.000 Comedy, baby.
00:23:37.000 Comedy, poor and simple.
00:23:40.000 Absolutely racist.
00:23:41.000 I mean, it's saying that there is a problem with the countryside because it's traditionally British.
00:23:45.000 Our traditional pubs are a problem.
00:23:48.000 Somehow ethnic minorities feel excluded from these areas.
00:23:50.000 I mean, imagine going to rural China or rural India and complaining that there aren't any white people there.
00:23:55.000 I mean, you'd be carted away to the loony bin, I would imagine, for a start.
00:23:59.000 But of course, you know, just, you know, the English countryside is English.
00:24:02.000 That's really funny.
00:24:03.000 When it goes rural China.
00:24:05.000 Excuse me.
00:24:06.000 Hey, you look.
00:24:08.000 Come over here.
00:24:09.000 Come here.
00:24:10.000 I've been looking around, rural China.
00:24:12.000 Everywhere, look, Chinese.
00:24:14.000 Lampshades for fucking hats.
00:24:17.000 What's going on?
00:24:18.000 Or, you know, nah, man, I ain't having that.
00:24:21.000 I want to see myself black geysers.
00:24:24.000 I want to see a big, tall, blonde bird.
00:24:26.000 You should be ashamed of yourself to use Chinese.
00:24:29.000 Also, the other thing is, as soon as you've had, like, as soon as he's been to one Chinese village, 20 minutes later, you need another Chinese.
00:24:37.000 I was trying to do a joke about how you need more Chinese food.
00:24:38.000 And he didn't quite.
00:24:39.000 He didn't really land.
00:24:40.000 Countryside is English countryside.
00:24:42.000 You know, to paraphrase Basil Faulty, what do you expect to see there?
00:24:45.000 Sydney Opera House, herds of wilderness sweeping majestically.
00:24:49.000 You don't expect to see Chinatown there.
00:24:50.000 You don't expect to see Jamaican steel bands there.
00:24:54.000 We need to call this out for what it is.
00:24:56.000 this fundamentally racist it's the logical argument that he's saying Logical.
00:25:06.000 Just, wow.
00:25:07.000 Brilliant.
00:25:08.000 Brilliant.
00:25:13.000 And who is behind this report?
00:25:14.000 So DEFRA wants to make this policy change based upon a report from the Leicester University's Centre for Hate Studies.
00:25:21.000 Now, that tells you all you need to know.
00:25:23.000 A completely biased report by this far-left society, which is now shaping government policy.
00:25:29.000 I think questions should be asked in the House about this.
00:25:32.000 Well, Britain is going crazy.
00:25:34.000 We've noticed it for a long time.
00:25:36.000 They're scrapping their plans for digital ID, praise the Lord, or mandatory digital ID, at least, but they're pushing ahead with digital surveillance.
00:25:42.000 Many people believe that there's a connection between the huge number of people that have been arrested more than anywhere else in the world for social media posts and this sense of draconian government overreach.
00:25:52.000 So is this attempt to ethnically cleanse or ethnically spice up the countryside part of a social engineering program in the UK that includes extraordinary decisions like ignoring the rape gang crisis,
00:26:05.000 appearing to shut down free speech wherever it opposes government mandates, extraordinary behavior during COVID, the deployment of the 77th Brigade, for example, a psyops organization that was started to deal with misinformation in foreign countries like Iraq that ultimately ended up being used on the domestic population and the deployment of groups like Logically AI to monitor and control social media.
00:26:28.000 What exactly is going on in the UK?
00:26:30.000 They want to scrap trial by jury.
00:26:31.000 It's difficult not to think that all this leads back to one man, one AIDS test, one leader, Keir Starmer.
00:26:39.000 Tucker Carlson, friend of the show and American pundit, broadcaster and writer, says that nothing will convince him that Keir Starmer is running the UK.
00:26:48.000 But what do you think?
00:26:50.000 Is Keir Starmer a WEF, WHO globalist type stooge who's been blackmailed and like many of the people we've seen in the Epstein files, has skeletons in his closet that are used to control him?
00:27:01.000 Or is something else going on?
00:27:02.000 These are legitimate questions to ask.
00:27:05.000 These are certainly not declarations or accusations.
00:27:07.000 You don't make those things, not anymore.
00:27:09.000 Not when you've got a justice system.
00:27:11.000 We're innocent until proven guilty is the way that justice worked.
00:27:16.000 Innocent until proven guilty.
00:27:19.000 But what is Tucker Carlson saying about Keir Starmer right here?
00:27:23.000 But I know a fair amount about Keir Starmer and you will never convince me at gunpoint even that Keir Starmer is making independent decisions about the future of Britain.
00:27:33.000 Just you can't convince me of that.
00:27:35.000 He's not adequate as a leader of a nation.
00:27:39.000 He just doesn't have the basic qualities.
00:27:41.000 He is taking orders.
00:27:42.000 That could not be clearer.
00:27:44.000 And I think it's clear to the British population.
00:27:47.000 But you don't know who's giving those orders.
00:27:49.000 I mean, have you ever seen him sort of like flapping and lapping around Zelensky?
00:27:53.000 Iman Rishi Sunak before him, the previous Rishi Sunak, who of course was one of the people that was an owner and participant in a hedge fund that invested in Moderna when Moderna had like five employees and subsequently was paid out by Moderna after Moderna.
00:28:08.000 I think they benefited quite significantly during the COVID era and certainly they were awarded lucrative rich contracts by the British government.
00:28:16.000 Look at all these contracts and look at people like Jonathan Van Tam, people that worked for the government and went on to work for Moderna.
00:28:23.000 Something strange is going on in the UK.
00:28:26.000 But what is it?
00:28:27.000 Is it even a proper country anymore?
00:28:29.000 Is it a capsized nation?
00:28:31.000 I think it's been captured.
00:28:33.000 I think it's a nation under control.
00:28:35.000 I think it's a nation that hates its population and is trying to destroy it.
00:28:39.000 My belief, my prayer for Britain, is that it becomes a Christian country directly controlled by the people.
00:28:47.000 Maximum direct digital democracy.
00:28:51.000 Will it always be a diverse country?
00:28:52.000 Of course it will.
00:28:54.000 Should the people there be loved?
00:28:56.000 Should foreigners be welcomed and loved?
00:28:58.000 Of course.
00:28:59.000 Of course there will be a variety of cultures in Britain.
00:29:02.000 In any great British city that's controlled by its population using technology to achieve direct democracy.
00:29:09.000 Of course what you want is compassion and love.
00:29:12.000 But what you don't want is compassion in the hands of tyrants used as a tool to control, claiming that they're trying to help some minority somewhere.
00:29:23.000 It's always on behalf of some minority somewhere, isn't it?
00:29:26.000 When they take more power and control.
00:29:28.000 Stay in your houses, take the jab, wear the mask, do as you're told.
00:29:31.000 Climate change.
00:29:33.000 Remember, they reverse engineer their authority.
00:29:36.000 They know that they want total control.
00:29:38.000 Control not only of the government state, but of your inner states.
00:29:42.000 They won't rest till they control your very spirit.
00:29:45.000 And as far as I can tell, there's only one way to control and prevent that.
00:29:50.000 And that's why I keep mentioning it.
00:29:51.000 Praise Jesus.
00:29:52.000 Christian country, mass democracy, individual freedom, voluntary coming to Christ.
00:29:57.000 But that's just what I think.
00:29:58.000 Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and the chat?
00:30:02.000 We cannot continue to criticize people for a variety of complicated views without the support of our partners.
00:30:09.000 Here's a message from one now.
00:30:12.000 Do you want to support me?
00:30:14.000 No, I don't.
00:30:14.000 Yes, you do.
00:30:15.000 Support me and support Rumble Premium.
00:30:17.000 You won't only be supporting me, you'll get additional access to Mug Club, that's Crowder's Gig, Tim Cast, that's Tim Paul's racket, and Glenn Greenwald's additional content.
00:30:25.000 Join us on Rumble Premium.
00:30:27.000 We make content every single week through Rumble because Rumble supports free speech.
00:30:31.000 When I was under attack from the British government and the British media, Rumble stood firm.
00:30:36.000 Yes, of course, there's crazy people on Rumble.
00:30:38.000 There's crazy people everywhere.
00:30:39.000 There's a crazy person living under this hat.
00:30:41.000 That doesn't mean we shouldn't have the right to speak freely together.
00:30:44.000 By supporting Rumble Premium, you're supporting me and content creators like me.
00:30:48.000 You get additional content, and what I will say even more, drink down deep on the delicious irony in this one.
00:30:54.000 You get an ad-free experience.
00:30:55.000 If you want an ad-free experience of Rumble, get Rumble Premium.
00:30:59.000 In the meantime, stay free.
00:31:03.000 Get off, YouTube.
00:31:05.000 You can fuck off.
00:31:06.000 Fuck off.
00:31:07.000 You can fuck off, YouTube.
00:31:09.000 Demonetize me.
00:31:11.000 Fuck off.
00:31:12.000 Click the link in the description.
00:31:14.000 Jake, you pulled a bit of scripture for us here from Revelation.
00:31:19.000 Never less than terrifying.
00:31:20.000 Let's have a look.
00:31:21.000 After this, I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count from every nation, tribe, people, and language standing before the throne and before the Lamb.
00:31:32.000 They were wearing white robes and they were holding palm branches in their hands.
00:31:38.000 Why now, Jake?
00:31:39.000 Why are you using this bit of scripture for this story?
00:31:42.000 That's a diversity that we can look forward to.
00:31:46.000 Diversity in God.
00:31:48.000 Yeah, we're all united under Jesus, different tribes, different tongue.
00:31:52.000 That's ultimately what people are trying to get, but I think they're going about it the wrong way.
00:31:57.000 Yeah, you can't reverse engineer it.
00:31:59.000 You can't impose it on people.
00:32:00.000 Joe, you're there in the United Kingdom right now, mate.
00:32:04.000 You live in like sort of pretty near towns like Slough, Reading, High Wickham, places immortalized in British drama.
00:32:11.000 Slough immortalized in Benjamin's poem, Come Friendly Bombs and Fallen Slough.
00:32:16.000 But mostly, you know, poet laureate of British comedy, Ricky Gervais, is from Reading and wrote a lot about Slough.
00:32:22.000 When you're there now, do you feel like you're in a country that's what does it feel like to be a young British white man, a Catholic, living in the UK?
00:32:32.000 Does it feel like it's a place that's for you?
00:32:34.000 Not really, no.
00:32:36.000 It depends where you go.
00:32:37.000 Like, like you say, Redding, Slough, they're very, I don't know, sometimes it does feel like a foreign land, I've got to be honest with you.
00:32:48.000 But then you go to like Henley, and it is like all traditional, you know, rural.
00:32:54.000 And I guess it is like more white people there.
00:32:57.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:32:58.000 But that's just how things have gone, isn't it?
00:33:00.000 You know, like people seem to live within their own little communities, like in Slough, big Asian population and that.
00:33:07.000 And the same in Reading, I guess.
00:33:08.000 And a lot of sort of like Muslim population in Reading as well.
00:33:12.000 I don't know, man.
00:33:13.000 It's just how things have played out here, isn't it?
00:33:17.000 This is what I want, mate, is I want Muslims to be able to watch our show, right?
00:33:22.000 And go, this is fair.
00:33:24.000 And this is not an anti-Muslim perspective because I don't, I'm not down with it at all.
00:33:32.000 And I think it's an important component.
00:33:34.000 I think people are trying to leverage and exacerbate tensions between different cultural groups.
00:33:40.000 You know, we've had Tommy Robinson on the show and I think he's an important voice in British politics.
00:33:48.000 You don't get to choose actually.
00:33:50.000 The country will tell you and show you who the important voices are because they listen to them and they have marches.
00:33:55.000 And if there's a couple hundred thousand people at a march for a bloke who's done jail time on numerous occasions on a variety for a variety of reasons, but seemed somewhat connected to his ability to speak openly about rape gangs and the aspect of that migrant culture that are obviously not working unless rape gangs is your thing.
00:34:17.000 But what I've tried to say directly to him and what I want to try to achieve is a viable and clear argument that Britain is a Christian country and that the people that pay taxes, fought for it, whatever the investment is, are entitled to believe that it's their country.
00:34:41.000 If you want to pull the threads of something like inverted commas your country, yeah, before long you do realize that all culture is laying upon the earth.
00:34:50.000 It's laying upon the earth.
00:34:52.000 You can believe yourself to be French.
00:34:53.000 Oh yeah, why?
00:34:54.000 Because you had a croissant and a glass of red wine.
00:34:56.000 Well, no, because I live in France, you might say, and I was born in France.
00:35:01.000 I guess what I'm trying to say is that when the culture is used to divide people, it becomes increasingly clear that only Christ can unite people, that only leadership that is uncontaminated by the kind of earthly failings.
00:35:17.000 Because see, when you talk about Henley, mate, I think that before when I was a kid, I was all about class politics.
00:35:22.000 I was like, I hate rich, powerful people.
00:35:24.000 I hate it.
00:35:24.000 I hate it.
00:35:25.000 Like, it was vehement in me.
00:35:26.000 Like, this is the thing to attack.
00:35:28.000 I really strongly felt it.
00:35:30.000 And I liked it when I was at them, like, Dockers marches and them other reclaim the streets things.
00:35:35.000 And they were like, you know, that's what's become the kind of woke Antifa stuff.
00:35:38.000 That's what grew out of that for sure.
00:35:42.000 But now, I see how that's nihilistic.
00:35:47.000 It's nihilistic.
00:35:48.000 It can't lead us anywhere that.
00:35:49.000 And I think the reason it becomes nihilistic is because it ain't got no God.
00:35:52.000 It's not got a God at the center of it.
00:35:54.000 And when there's not a God, you can reason yourself into all sorts of peculiar positions.
00:35:58.000 You have to be somehow submissive and surrendered.
00:36:02.000 And the idea of distinct tribes and distinct identities under Christ.
00:36:07.000 And honor and reverence between us.
00:36:09.000 That can only really be bought out if you trust people and if you give people power.
00:36:12.000 There there is, there is this sort of sense that power is being held at the center and no one's.
00:36:17.000 Everyone's in the same sort of gripe, the same grind and same tension.
00:36:21.000 I don't know what's going to happen mate, but I do know that they benefit when we're in tension with one another.
00:36:27.000 Has anyone got any?
00:36:28.000 What do you think about a meeting like how an?
00:36:31.000 A meeting brings together people like you will have.
00:36:34.000 You can have someone that's homeless, and then you can have a billionaire next to each other.
00:36:40.000 That I mean complete socioeconomic different classes, but yet man, they you can even have uh, guys sponsoring the leadership structure come up in that that has nothing to do with their net worth or who they're associated with or where they live.
00:36:58.000 I think it's one of the purest pictures i've seen.
00:37:02.000 Do you think though Dave, that 12 step groups that are, by their nature?
00:37:07.000 People would say it's anarchic, but actually the term anarchic collapses into democratic when you push it enough, because what it means is there is no imposed structure, there is only consensus established through direct discourse and votes.
00:37:23.000 That's how.
00:37:23.000 That's how an a question would be this, how would you scale it?
00:37:30.000 And two it, do you not think that there's something fundamental about it, about the fact that people come to a 12-step group needing broken and needing to stop drinking, and needing to stop taking drinks or drink uh, drugs excuse me, i've got to stop taking these drinks or needing to stop gambling, or whatever it is?
00:37:47.000 Do you think that?
00:37:49.000 Uh, because I guess the fact that you've raised it make you must believe on some level that it there's information in it that we can learn from.
00:37:56.000 Yeah well, I think for sure you're coming in there.
00:38:00.000 You're coming in there with a problem that you cannot solve and you need help right, and you need the help of the group or members of the group and their experience going through the steps.
00:38:10.000 Um also, you need to help as well.
00:38:13.000 In order to stay sober, you need to participate and help out.
00:38:17.000 I mean, I think how you go about that, I don't know.
00:38:20.000 I mean carefully, because the way they went about it was hey, least possible organization, least possible government over it, and they really took a position of if you're, if you're a leader in there, it's a leader, it's a servant position.
00:38:37.000 You're serving the group that's a Christian idea in it, like the highlight isn't.
00:38:42.000 Like our lord, the highest position is servant.
00:38:45.000 He who tries to exalt himself will be humbled.
00:38:48.000 He who humbles himself will be exalted.
00:38:50.000 Do Do you think like that?
00:38:52.000 I mean, this is saying I think about forgive the tangent.
00:38:54.000 Like, in like when you look at 12 steps, right?
00:38:59.000 A sponsor of mine used to say the thing that's genius, like the 12 steps are, um, you can find that anywhere in some sort of way.
00:39:07.000 Like, you can find a process of, you know, indeed, it came from the Oxford group, so they found it there, but it sort of is a recognizable pattern.
00:39:15.000 Me used to say, Alfie did, that it's the 12 traditions that's the masterpiece because the 12 traditions makes us acknowledge that no one individual is all-powerful.
00:39:28.000 The only authority is a vote.
00:39:30.000 You know, they call it group conscience, of course, or group conscious, but conscience.
00:39:34.000 Like that, you know, that ultimately that boils down to we vote on anything.
00:39:38.000 Even if you want to get a new kettle, you've got to do a vote, right?
00:39:41.000 We're going to vote.
00:39:41.000 We want to spend some of the money on a new kettle.
00:39:43.000 Takes ages.
00:39:44.000 Like, that's one of the things I've noticed.
00:39:46.000 I've been involved in a few anarchist sort of organizations or Democratic, let's call it Democratics, people don't like anarchists, but it doesn't mean that.
00:39:54.000 Decentralized group where the group is fully independent and autonomous.
00:39:57.000 That's one of the things I like about it.
00:39:58.000 It says each group is fully autonomous, except in matters affecting other groups or in the case of AA as a whole.
00:40:07.000 So, like, I've been thinking about how you could map that onto a sort of a city-state.
00:40:13.000 You could say every borough is fully independent, except in matters affecting other boroughs, or say for example, London as a whole.
00:40:22.000 Every borough is independent.
00:40:24.000 So, this is your budget.
00:40:25.000 You vote among yourselves.
00:40:26.000 You've already got a council.
00:40:27.000 You've voted in mayors and councillors and all that.
00:40:30.000 Use a lot, put it before the public, have polls on it.
00:40:33.000 Do you want to spend this money on outsourcing all of your refuse collection on your sewage, or do you want to employ council workers?
00:40:40.000 Do you want to repave that road?
00:40:42.000 Or do you want to open a hostel?
00:40:44.000 Like, what do you, you know, and then you've got democracy.
00:40:47.000 And what you would require, I suppose, is people being able to communicate.
00:40:52.000 Look, this is the challenge you're going to face.
00:40:53.000 If you don't put this money into sewage, you're you know, this these are the consequences, but it's up to you.
00:40:57.000 It's your money.
00:40:58.000 Like, that's that's the relationship, though, that democracy should be.
00:41:01.000 It's your money.
00:41:02.000 Like, that's not how the government talks to us now, is it?
00:41:04.000 This is your money, so tell us.
00:41:07.000 Like, we're doing this and we're doing that.
00:41:09.000 Like, whatever side you're on, the assumption is you are subordinate.
00:41:13.000 And once you say none of us are subordinate, we've all got the same God, and we are all subordinate to him and laterally connected.
00:41:20.000 And there may be other structures if we choose to participate in them.
00:41:24.000 When I go to BJJ with Carlos, Carlos is in charge, that's clear.
00:41:28.000 He's a black belt, he's a teacher.
00:41:30.000 When I'm in my household, there are areas where me and my wife are communicating about leadership in the 12 steps.
00:41:36.000 As you said, that it's only by consensus of the governed.
00:41:41.000 It's not by like a mandate delivered by consensus of the governed, to quote in fact.
00:41:46.000 Holy grail.
00:41:47.000 But like, so, um, you know, so, mate, do you think that those ideas can work politically?
00:41:56.000 Should.
00:41:56.000 Yeah.
00:41:57.000 It should.
00:41:57.000 That's how it should be.
00:41:59.000 Now, how you go about that, I don't know.
00:42:01.000 I mean, I think you know some of it.
00:42:03.000 I mean, you've mentioned some of it.
00:42:04.000 Decentralization, right?
00:42:06.000 Being able to use technology, blockchain specifically, to do voting and polling.
00:42:13.000 Getting everyone involved.
00:42:15.000 Everyone in a community would just need to be involved.
00:42:17.000 And you'd have to give them the simplest way to be involved.
00:42:21.000 You know, here's an app.
00:42:22.000 Go to it.
00:42:23.000 This is everything going on in your county or city or is you quote borough.
00:42:28.000 Borough.
00:42:29.000 Serez barrio in like Brazil or whatever.
00:42:33.000 And then being able to, okay, if you don't want that road or you want this changed in your area, you've got to participate.
00:42:41.000 You've got to participate.
00:42:43.000 You could even have a vote to not do it.
00:42:44.000 You could even go, we're not doing it.
00:42:45.000 And we opt out.
00:42:46.000 We want the council to run our bit.
00:42:48.000 All right, cool.
00:42:48.000 Do that then.
00:42:49.000 Like, you know, give people maximum, the principle should be maximum, not minimum power.
00:42:53.000 What was you going to say, mate?
00:42:54.000 I was just saying, you got to have something that unites you.
00:42:57.000 You have to have something that unites you.
00:42:59.000 So even in AA, addiction and recovery, there's it.
00:43:04.000 We're at least on the same page, and this is what we're here for.
00:43:06.000 In Christ, you can have a diverse church, but they're all united under Christ.
00:43:11.000 So even in relation to this, what's the uniting factor?
00:43:16.000 So if you would say it's country.
00:43:18.000 But then you want to change everything about the country, or you don't, or it's culture, and you want to come in and change the culture completely.
00:43:25.000 That's where the battle is happening.
00:43:27.000 I like this culture well, I don't like this culture.
00:43:29.000 That's the battle.
00:43:30.000 So if there's like a lot of Muslims that want to go out to the countryside and have a house, I just don't know if that's the case, but there has to be a uniting factor for any of this to work.
00:43:43.000 It's very interesting.
00:43:44.000 It does have to be like well and that's.
00:43:46.000 But do you see how the Babylonian filthy, Satanic system is destroying concepts like universality and objectivity?
00:43:52.000 Because even when you said that thing, I like the culture.
00:43:55.000 I don't like the culture.
00:43:56.000 That should work in this system.
00:43:58.000 Okay, so people who don't like the culture, I mean, but the problem is, is it's not geographical?
00:44:02.000 Is it it's ideological?
00:44:04.000 So there are people all over London like the, but what you know, one of the things that excites me about this is it would expose them fuckers, man them, people that are like, um well yes, this is a diverse country.
00:44:14.000 We want immigration cool, cool.
00:44:17.000 So in Barnes, you want hostels built all around Barns.
00:44:21.000 Yeah, because it seems like Laytonstone.
00:44:23.000 They ain't down.
00:44:24.000 They ain't down in Laytonstone, so they vote against it.
00:44:26.000 But you like barns, you love it, right.
00:44:28.000 So that's where we're going to build all the.
00:44:30.000 You get a budget for it.
00:44:30.000 You've got your budget.
00:44:31.000 You're not going to spend it on roads or hanging fucking baskets of flowers, which I notice are more pro?
00:44:36.000 Uh proliferated in posh areas.
00:44:38.000 You're going to find more hanging baskets and hedges in south Kensington than you find in Luton.
00:44:42.000 But you can, you fuck your hanging baskets, motherfuckers.
00:44:45.000 Now you've got some hostels because you wanted them, right.
00:44:47.000 So fuck you.
00:44:48.000 Now we know, now we know you don't want them, do you right?
00:44:51.000 Gap your hanging baskets back and shut your fucking mouth.
00:44:54.000 Like, and that's like you know, now we've got real politics.
00:44:56.000 Now we've got real politics.
00:44:58.000 Well yeah, what are you saying, Jojo?
00:45:03.000 You're right and like I, like what uh Jake was saying there as well.
00:45:07.000 Like in a you join, it says in our common peril right, so that's what brings people together.
00:45:12.000 We have, like a common unity in recovery.
00:45:16.000 Um, what is the common unity in this country?
00:45:19.000 I really don't know.
00:45:20.000 Like everyone says oh, it's a Christian country.
00:45:22.000 Well, it ain't really, is it?
00:45:24.000 I don't think.
00:45:25.000 How is it a Christian country what?
00:45:27.000 What makes it a Christian country?
00:45:29.000 Kiest Armor ain't Christian.
00:45:30.000 Where's the Christian principles being demonstrated in government?
00:45:34.000 It's just not.
00:45:35.000 And church numbers churches are shutting down all the time here, like there's hardly any priests.
00:45:40.000 They're dwindling, you know, and that's been going on for years.
00:45:44.000 Um, I don't know man look, it's controversial to even say it in it, but you know there's, there's a lot more mosques these days, especially across London, and that.
00:45:53.000 So the culture has changed.
00:45:55.000 It like that's the reality.
00:45:56.000 The culture has changed.
00:45:58.000 And now where do you go from here?
00:46:00.000 What's the how?
00:46:01.000 How do you bring people together and accept, right?
00:46:03.000 You're Muslim, you're Sikh, and we're Christian.
00:46:06.000 How do we all live nice?
00:46:09.000 You know, do you want to live in Henley?
00:46:11.000 Should we build a mosque in Henley?
00:46:12.000 Should we build a new ship?
00:46:13.000 What is it?
00:46:14.000 I don't know.
00:46:17.000 Is that what gets you fired up about it?
00:46:19.000 Is the idea that the people that are saying, oh, we want diversity, we want diversity, but when it comes to their own area that they live in, they don't want diversity or they don't want these things.
00:46:31.000 They just want to faint like they want to present.
00:46:35.000 What we did in the Grammys just now is, I think, as good an example as you're ever going to get of people saying stuff that they're not going to pay the price for.
00:46:45.000 And we've all done it.
00:46:46.000 We all do it.
00:46:48.000 I do it in my own house with my own kids.
00:46:50.000 I can't tell you how often I notice myself saying to one of my daughters stuff like, all you think about is yourself.
00:47:02.000 But I check myself, hopefully before I wreck myself.
00:47:06.000 I do like the idea that the technology exists for like, you know, that my example is the anger of someone that feels like I've been at the heart of a culture, left the culture, but then been attacked, attacked by a culture.
00:47:22.000 I'm angry, man.
00:47:23.000 I'm angry with the culture.
00:47:24.000 And my religion tells me that there's a war coming and good.
00:47:30.000 That's what I feel like I've been waiting for my whole life.
00:47:32.000 That's what I feel like I'm being prepared for.
00:47:34.000 So I don't like, I don't want to, I know forgiveness, love, Christ.
00:47:38.000 And I know that.
00:47:39.000 What I want and what I feel is at best secondary, closer to irrelevant.
00:47:45.000 But what I like is that like the negative, the sort of rather vindictive side of it is all those people that say they want this and want that, well, go on then.
00:47:54.000 You do it.
00:47:55.000 Show me that's what you want.
00:47:55.000 Show me.
00:47:57.000 And all the people that actually do want to participate in a culture will be able to because the world is full of, you know, like there are a load of Muslim food banks, Christian food banks, Muslim people wanting to help the community, people in Muslim communities saying we don't want this sort of ghettoized culture that's about like bloody, like the worst aspects of stories that we've heard.
00:48:16.000 We want to be participants in building a common community.
00:48:18.000 We want to love our God.
00:48:19.000 Now, when someone says, like, you know, people do, no, baked into Islam is they want to take over and they want to destroy you.
00:48:25.000 Or baked into Judaism, they want to take over, they want to destroy you.
00:48:28.000 Or look at the Christian Crusades and what it's actually meant and how Christianity has played out and look at the Catholic Church and look at this church and that church and mega churches or whatever.
00:48:36.000 But that's, for me, that's institutions.
00:48:39.000 That's how institutions behave.
00:48:41.000 And my prayer is that it doesn't have to be this way.
00:48:45.000 It doesn't have to be this way.
00:48:48.000 I think also it's okay to not have everything be diverse.
00:48:56.000 So even with Dave's example of, you know, when you go to AA, you have different socioeconomic status.
00:49:02.000 You have a rich person next to a poor person.
00:49:04.000 You have somebody further along in their journey or whatever.
00:49:08.000 You can go and visit that place for however long AA is.
00:49:12.000 But to make the decision that goes, I want to go live at that crack house or I want to go live at that, you know, poor area of town, that's a totally different commitment.
00:49:22.000 So even if Billie Eilish says all the stuff she says on the Grammys, if you go a little bit further, are you willing to live in that one line you said for a longer period of time and have people live on your land and set up different structures around your house in Malibu?
00:49:39.000 They don't want to do it.
00:49:40.000 You don't really want to commit to that, but you'll commit to it for a touch.
00:49:44.000 And maybe that's okay.
00:49:46.000 Well, Amasi, I can see you want to talk and I'm going to come to you in a second.
00:49:49.000 But I think what it is, is people don't even know how to categorize what they're saying and what they're doing.
00:49:54.000 See, I know it myself because a lot of times the category I'm existing is in is say funny thing, you're on a rumble stream.
00:50:03.000 That's the category I'm in.
00:50:04.000 I'm not in, here's my true opinions about how to raise a child or the complexity of moral indications in scripture.
00:50:13.000 Like, a lot of the time I'm in play.
00:50:15.000 I'm in play.
00:50:16.000 Now, I think Billie Eilish in that moment is in, um, I'm, people are listening to me.
00:50:22.000 I'm a powerful entertainer and I'm part of a culture that is rewarding condemnation of the ICE officers.
00:50:31.000 See, do you remember when our man Pete Davidson, the brilliant comedian of SNL who lost his father in 9-11, you know, and our man Dan Crenshaw, who, of course, Eddie Gallagher hates and like some of my mates hate, like, they got together somehow, like, because I think he'd said something.
00:50:47.000 He made jokes about him, didn't he?
00:50:48.000 Pete Davidson made jokes about his eye patching like he looked like a baddie.
00:50:52.000 And they got him on the same show and they talked.
00:50:54.000 It was kind of, I liked it, actually.
00:50:58.000 You know, I liked it.
00:50:59.000 I liked that the two of them, like Pete Davison goes, well, he's just joking me.
00:51:03.000 And Dan Crenshaw was like, oh, well, whatever you think.
00:51:06.000 Like, you know, I like the idea.
00:51:08.000 What I like is good faith, actually.
00:51:10.000 And I don't think there's a lot of good faith in the culture.
00:51:13.000 I think the culture is always started with, like, say, obviously, how can I not be personal about it?
00:51:18.000 Because how can I not be?
00:51:19.000 Like, I think the main motivation behind what's happened with the trial and the case is people like it.
00:51:25.000 People like going, you're a rapist.
00:51:27.000 You're a rapist.
00:51:28.000 This is fun saying this.
00:51:29.000 I'm enjoying it.
00:51:29.000 This is fun.
00:51:30.000 Don't make me stop saying that.
00:51:30.000 I'm enjoying it.
00:51:32.000 I like saying it.
00:51:33.000 I'm not talking about complainants.
00:51:35.000 Of course, I can't talk about complaints because I'm in a legal situation, but I have theories.
00:51:40.000 You better believe it for why people have come forward.
00:51:43.000 Of course I do.
00:51:45.000 But what we can focus on now is the kind of lack of good faith when people are, you shouldn't want people to have been, like, I participate in it.
00:51:54.000 I want Bill Gates to, I want to find out that Bill Gates, oh, look, there's pictures of Bill Gates, you know, he's a paedophile.
00:52:01.000 I'd be sort of, part of me would be happy.
00:52:03.000 When really it should be, oh, I don't want Bill Gates to be a paedophile.
00:52:06.000 I don't want some child to be abused by Bill Gates.
00:52:10.000 I don't want that.
00:52:11.000 And for Bill Gates, I want Bill Gates to be happy.
00:52:14.000 He's a child of God like me, right?
00:52:16.000 That's where I know I'm supposed to get.
00:52:18.000 But it's hard to get there.
00:52:20.000 And I think that the culture has sort of given up even on that kind of aspiration.
00:52:24.000 That everyone's just like, no, I want my side to win.
00:52:26.000 Fuck you.
00:52:27.000 Let's find the right bit of video footage that shows that Alex Pretty was right.
00:52:30.000 Let's find the right bit of food footage that justifies that the Ice Agent was this.
00:52:34.000 With no kind of sense of there's a principle.
00:52:36.000 There's a principle.
00:52:38.000 And like that, you know, if we can't think like that, we're in trouble.
00:52:42.000 Yeah.
00:52:42.000 Which goes back to your point of it's too big.
00:52:45.000 It's too connected.
00:52:47.000 We're trying to move these big, massive things when those conversations of good faith and working through conflict and walking through differences happen on this level, relationship level.
00:53:01.000 And I think everybody's so connected that they've lost the individual.
00:53:06.000 They've lost the decentralized.
00:53:08.000 Well, I think about it when I do dumb voices and stuff, or like if I make a joke or a glib comment, I don't want anyone to feel hurt as a result of something I've said or done.
00:53:18.000 I don't want that.
00:53:19.000 And in fact, I want systems that afford us the ability to actually make mistakes, to make genuine mistakes, to say something, like, that was a stupid thing you said just then.
00:53:27.000 Yes, I see that now.
00:53:28.000 I apologise.
00:53:29.000 Well, what you did there has had these repercussions.
00:53:32.000 But that's not how the system works.
00:53:34.000 The system wants to destroy everyone and lie and exaggerate and make it as bad as possible.
00:53:38.000 And you see the devil in that.
00:53:40.000 Counterfeit, the accuser, synthesis.
00:53:44.000 And so in the end, the Christian argument becomes unavoidable.
00:53:48.000 It becomes, I know, it's not like, oh, this would be nice if this was true.
00:53:51.000 It's actually not nice because you've got no choice anymore.
00:53:57.000 Your choices are over.
00:53:58.000 You don't matter anymore.
00:54:00.000 You're not relevant.
00:54:01.000 What you think, what you feel, the idea that you're important.
00:54:04.000 Like if you want Christ, you give up everything else.
00:54:07.000 You give up everything else.
00:54:09.000 And that's not easy.
00:54:11.000 But the truth is, is that everything you think you've got anyway is bullshit.
00:54:16.000 Even the things that are beautiful.
00:54:18.000 Like, you know, your kids, dead in the ground.
00:54:20.000 I mean, like, it's like, it's not, it's a hard thing, I think.
00:54:25.000 I find it hard.
00:54:25.000 I find it very, very hard.
00:54:27.000 I find it hard.
00:54:27.000 I think there's a difference, though, between people directly being able to destroy your life and have no consequences if they're wrong or they're lying.
00:54:38.000 Or, I mean, like, what's going to happen when you get acquitted?
00:54:43.000 And are they going to get in trouble for going?
00:54:45.000 Oh, man.
00:54:45.000 Okay.
00:54:46.000 I lied.
00:54:46.000 Okay.
00:54:48.000 Or the, I don't know, the news crew that put together everything.
00:54:52.000 Are they going to get in trouble for it?
00:54:53.000 No, they have no consequences for it.
00:54:56.000 So when someone has no consequences for the things that they do that affects all these people's life or destroying someone's life specifically.
00:55:04.000 Well, I would take responsibility for my own portion in that inso much as that I, for a long time, lived like the only thing that mattered was what I wanted.
00:55:15.000 The only thing that mattered.
00:55:17.000 That doesn't mean that I bypassed people's consent very actually, explicitly, and emphatically, I did not.
00:55:24.000 But that's not what you're on trial for.
00:55:26.000 No, I'm not on trial.
00:55:27.000 Like what I'm on trial for, I don't understand anymore.
00:55:30.000 It's very difficult to understand.
00:55:31.000 It's very difficult to understand.
00:55:33.000 But what I will, what I want, what I would welcome is the ability to go, yeah, of course.
00:55:38.000 I was attracted.
00:55:40.000 I was when I was 30, an attractive, rich, famous person where women would get in, come into bathrooms with me, where like, you know, people freeze and people would do all sorts of stuff.
00:55:50.000 And that's like a, you need to have a strong connection with something in order to not find that appealing.
00:55:56.000 And I feel that, you know, again, no cost, no consequence.
00:55:59.000 All the people that are like, oh, that's this guy.
00:56:01.000 Like, well, have you ever tried it?
00:56:03.000 Have you ever had that?
00:56:03.000 Have you ever had someone walk up to you and like get on their knees and get, you know, because, you know, you need to be pretty close to God to say, no, no, that's not who I am.
00:56:12.000 That's not who I am.
00:56:13.000 I'm with God now.
00:56:14.000 You know, yeah, that's my favorite.
00:56:16.000 Yeah.
00:56:16.000 So, hey, what was you saying, Massey?
00:56:17.000 You like, you didn't say nothing, mate.
00:56:19.000 You wanted to say something, I think.
00:56:21.000 Oh, yeah, just two things really about this immigration stuff.
00:56:24.000 You've got to be careful because I'm in England and I literally could get arrested leaving the country talking about it.
00:56:29.000 But like, first thing is, reading a lot of history at the moment and all of human history is people fighting and killing each other over the slightest differences.
00:56:37.000 French people fighting British people, British people fighting Irish people, Irish people fighting Irish people over the tiniest differences.
00:56:44.000 So if you're someone from Iran where I grew up and you're looking at French people and German people, they look exactly the same and yet they've been killing each other.
00:56:52.000 I mean, Germany fought the world, right?
00:56:54.000 So to all of a sudden think that we can just import people from vastly different places and everyone's going to get along fine, I think is incredibly naive because if you take any person now and have them grow up in the Amazon rainforest, they're going to be exactly the same as person from like 100,000 years ago.
00:57:14.000 We haven't biologically changed in any way.
00:57:16.000 It's just our knowledge and our technology that's changed.
00:57:18.000 So human nature is fundamentally exactly the same.
00:57:20.000 So that's point one.
00:57:21.000 Point two is that nobody has been, anyone who's talking about importing people from the third world or wherever has never really spent any time there.
00:57:30.000 I grew up in these places.
00:57:31.000 They're great places for some reasons and terrible for other reasons.
00:57:35.000 But these people have never been there and they've never been in any kind of conflict militarily and they've never had their country invaded in any way.
00:57:42.000 My granddad fought in World War II.
00:57:44.000 He signed up underage to go and fight in World War II in the Navy.
00:57:48.000 He's dead now.
00:57:49.000 I don't know any stories from World War II.
00:57:51.000 No one around remembers the last time that England was invaded.
00:57:54.000 They have no memory of it at all.
00:57:56.000 And if you think about, if you think about what happens with rich people, someone makes a fortune and then their son generally continues that fortune or builds the business.
00:58:07.000 And by the third generation, that fortune is squandered.
00:58:10.000 We are the third generation inheritance of a fortune, which is the United Kingdom, Western democracy, and whatever.
00:58:16.000 And we're completely squandering it because we didn't in any way have to fight for it.
00:58:21.000 Yeah, that's it, basically.
00:58:23.000 Although, when you think that's good, some good analysis.
00:58:25.000 What I would add, though, is when you said about the sort of naivety of mass migration, of course, one of the analyses is that it isn't an inadvertent and inconsidered or unconsidered matter, but a deliberate attempt to create precisely the type of crisis and chaos that might precede the ability to legitimately impose different authority.
00:58:52.000 And of course, like what I've really, what was it?
00:58:54.000 What was the one I was thinking about the other day?
00:58:56.000 I was thinking about, well, it was this.
00:58:59.000 When I saw on them Epstein things, like the pizza and the grape juice, does seem to be a code for something.
00:59:04.000 I remember when all that Pizzagate stuff came onto the news, remember all of like, I think we did it.
00:59:09.000 We did a watch along with it, didn't we?
00:59:11.000 We did a watch along, good watch along actually.
00:59:13.000 It's on Rumble.
00:59:14.000 And the mainstream news going, oh, there's these ridiculous theories that pizza and that this was centers around one pizza restaurant in New York.
00:59:22.000 And what they always do is they make a claim that's obviously stupid, straw manning.
00:59:28.000 They make it that the entire claim is about that.
00:59:32.000 Now, all of that willingness to condemn and criticize and dismiss people that, you know, for a long time, lots of people have thought that powerful elites and institutions have got some weird sex stuff going on.
00:59:46.000 And it's gone from like a peripheral marginal thing or a bit of, you know, like, I mean, I don't know pre-internet what the spaces would be to talk about something like an Epstein.
00:59:59.000 You would have to be someone that I think went to an interesting university or knew someone that had been in government or something.
01:00:04.000 Like, I don't know what kind of hookup you would require to, in the same way that pornography is limitlessly accessible should you require it, forgot it in the holy name of God if you wanted it.
01:00:15.000 The same way, like this sort of information is limitlessly accessible, something that would be incredibly esoteric.
01:00:22.000 So the only way actually to combat that is to flood the system.
01:00:26.000 You've got to flood it.
01:00:27.000 So I think the misinformation and malinformation isn't coming from Alex Jones, Candice Owens, David Icke, me, Joey Rowe, whoever it is this week.
01:00:36.000 It's actually a deliberate attempt to flood the space with so much stuff that if you talk about like, well, do you think it's deliberate that people are being brought over from various countries that don't have natural cultural inclinations that are going to make cohabitation easy in a Western democracy?
01:00:56.000 People go, you are racist and shut that down.
01:00:59.000 And that's called displacement theory or replacement theory.
01:01:02.000 And it's one of the worst, most white supremacist things.
01:01:04.000 You can't even talk about it.
01:01:06.000 Shut up.
01:01:07.000 And actually, when you think about it, you're actually, it's not racist to say that.
01:01:13.000 Because who are you being racist against?
01:01:15.000 Are you being racist against the like sort of them lads that you sometimes encounter now in British cities that just feel like displaced actually?
01:01:24.000 And wouldn't it, isn't it okay to say, where have these lads come from?
01:01:29.000 And shouldn't we look at what's going on in that culture and that country that's necessitated this mass migration?
01:01:38.000 Because presumably things are great.
01:01:39.000 And the arguments you hear back of like people that are working at the National Health Service, that's the British medical establishment and a much loved aspect of British cultural and institutional life.
01:01:48.000 I don't think anyone anywhere thinks it's wrong that there are nurses coming from Ghana or whatever.
01:01:53.000 But some people have said, well, don't you want it that sort of various African nations have themselves got good infrastructure?
01:02:00.000 And the reason I think I took a long while to even consider things because of my natural dislike of anything like racism, like replacement theory, is because I didn't like the idea that I was being sort of condemnatory or critical of people that were doing like, you know, important work and good work.
01:02:18.000 And I didn't like the idea of taking a divisive picture position.
01:02:22.000 And also because I was very sympathetic because of the old class politics and empire ideas to Britain's, you know, even more than your mad, crazy, unprecedented and crazy, incredible country.
01:02:34.000 Britain did literally go around the world taking stuff over, killing people, nicking all their stuff.
01:02:42.000 Like Britain's crazy.
01:02:43.000 It was like really India, Africa, the whole world and everything.
01:02:46.000 And so one feels that there could be a kind of retributional or karmic or tit for, there's a kind of, at least however you want to term it, there's a relationship.
01:02:58.000 One can establish a relationship.
01:03:00.000 Britain went all around these countries, nicked all their tea, spices, minerals, oil, killed people, massacred them, turned them against one another.
01:03:08.000 I'm thinking most about India, the example in my mind, because it's the most one I know most about.
01:03:12.000 And it's so obscene, the way that it was actually initially corporations that went.
01:03:16.000 And then the army and the empire went and backed up the British, the East India Tea Company, which was a corporation like making tea.
01:03:23.000 Then they started having private militia over there because the Indians were like, what the fuck's going on?
01:03:27.000 And then they said, we can't control this lot anymore.
01:03:29.000 They're really kicking off.
01:03:30.000 And the British Army just centralised the people, killed them all.
01:03:32.000 They were locking them up, shooting them.
01:03:34.000 It was really terribly barbaric and awful.
01:03:37.000 So when, like, and it was part of the Commonwealth, Britain said, we own it.
01:03:40.000 We own India.
01:03:41.000 It's ours.
01:03:42.000 Like, so when Indian people want to come and live in England, there's an argument for it.
01:03:48.000 That's the argument.
01:03:48.000 Well, you fucked our country up, nicked all our stuff.
01:03:53.000 But what was mad for me, and it's only recent, is when they try to use the same, and you can make a bit of the same argument for America, most powerful nation in the world, Iraq, Manifest Destiny, you know, like, look at what's happening under Trump.
01:04:04.000 We're having Greenland.
01:04:04.000 We've got like, it's a sort of crazy, most powerful country in the world.
01:04:08.000 This is what goes on.
01:04:09.000 But then when they said it about Ireland, I was like, no, that don't track.
01:04:13.000 That don't track.
01:04:14.000 Ireland didn't go around the world.
01:04:15.000 Ireland were trying to fight off the fucking British who were getting involved in their politics, messing with them, killing their leaders and their martyrs, controlling them, persecuting them, starving them.
01:04:24.000 So you can't say, the Irish, they're racing.
01:04:26.000 The Irish have got nationalism in them because they had to kill the people, their neighbours were trying to kill them the whole time.
01:04:32.000 So you know they're lying.
01:04:34.000 It's sort of a bit of a bigger example of Alex Pretty.
01:04:38.000 Like, if you're telling the truth, why are you fucking lying?
01:04:42.000 I mean, like, you know, obviously that's a sort of in itself a contradiction.
01:04:44.000 But if what you're saying is true, that it's terribly unjust that Alex Pretty has been murdered.
01:04:49.000 And I would agree that it is, you know, that he's died protesting and all of it.
01:04:52.000 Of course, it's wrong and it's bad and it's awful.
01:04:55.000 But why are you making him look different?
01:04:57.000 Because you are using it.
01:04:59.000 It's just an object.
01:05:00.000 It's just an object.
01:05:01.000 And both sides do it and everyone does it.
01:05:03.000 But I just, again, back to Jake's point shows everyone's fucked and we need a radical review of how we run reality.
01:05:09.000 And that's all the weather.
01:05:10.000 Should we finish on?
01:05:11.000 It's the Super Bowl.
01:05:13.000 Well, it's the Super Bowl.
01:05:14.000 It is the Super Bowl.
01:05:16.000 It is.
01:05:17.000 What is?
01:05:18.000 It is.
01:05:19.000 It's the Super Bowl.
01:05:20.000 America is Rome.
01:05:22.000 Bread and circuses.
01:05:23.000 It's the most powerful country of the world.
01:05:25.000 Sometimes when you're not from America, you think, well, it is the most important sport.
01:05:28.000 Is it baseball?
01:05:29.000 The old traditional sport of baseball.
01:05:31.000 Marilyn Monroe, Joe DiMaggio, all of that stuff.
01:05:35.000 Babe Roof smoking a fag on the mound, all that gear.
01:05:39.000 No, it's actually football.
01:05:40.000 And I'll tell you how you can tell.
01:05:41.000 Is it basketball though?
01:05:42.000 Hoop dreams and all of that.
01:05:43.000 Michael Jordan, greatest superstar that maybe global sport has ever produced.
01:05:48.000 Could you say that about Michael Jordan?
01:05:49.000 Certainly richest, I guess.
01:05:51.000 Yeah, maybe, maybe.
01:05:52.000 No, though, it ain't because it's football, American football, because of the adverts, isn't it?
01:05:57.000 Like, that's how you know, because of their Super Bowl halftime adverts.
01:06:00.000 It tells you the culture will tell you what it reveres.
01:06:03.000 Joseph Campbell, the great American genius, he used to say, if you want to know what's important to a culture, look at its biggest buildings.
01:06:09.000 There was a time where the biggest buildings were churches, and then, like, you know, look at the city of London or Wall Street or wherever, the biggest buildings are all banks.
01:06:15.000 Now, we don't really live in buildings anymore.
01:06:17.000 We live in an altogether different digital terrain.
01:06:20.000 But there's no question that the Super Bowl is the most powerful thing in the world.
01:06:23.000 And Jake, what aspect of the I don't know who's in it, who's doing what, why it matters, any of it.
01:06:30.000 So, tell us a little something.
01:06:32.000 I mean, it's definitely been one of the least followed for me.
01:06:35.000 Super Bowls.
01:06:35.000 Dave, what about you?
01:06:36.000 I mean, are you into it at all?
01:06:38.000 No.
01:06:38.000 Why?
01:06:39.000 I don't know.
01:06:40.000 It's like college football.
01:06:41.000 Yeah, we're into college football a lot.
01:06:43.000 Racist.
01:06:44.000 But you got the Patriots.
01:06:45.000 They're back.
01:06:46.000 Right?
01:06:47.000 The Patriots.
01:06:48.000 Which you should love, the Patriots from my favorite movie.
01:06:51.000 Because of the Green Dragoons.
01:06:54.000 They're going against the Green Dragoons in the Super Bowl.
01:06:56.000 Good.
01:06:57.000 Well, those Patriots.
01:07:00.000 The Seahawks.
01:07:00.000 The Seahawks.
01:07:01.000 They're both sort of teams with good pedigree, ain't they?
01:07:04.000 Yeah, so the Patriots won like all the time with Tom Brady.
01:07:07.000 And so the Seahawks are kind of in and out.
01:07:09.000 They're always like right around there.
01:07:10.000 But it'll be an interesting game.
01:07:13.000 I think my clip is just my favorite Super Bowl halftime show that I can remember watching as a kid is Michael Jackson.
01:07:22.000 Let's watch Michael Jackson.
01:07:24.000 Nothing could stop me loving Michael Jackson.
01:07:27.000 If you're that talented, I think that the entire cast of Home Alone should just do whatever the fuck you tell them.
01:08:54.000 To me, that's peak halftime.
01:08:58.000 It's never going to be better than that.
01:09:01.000 No.
01:09:02.000 Be able to beat it.
01:09:03.000 Got a bad bunny, and a lot of people obviously politically are excited about that.
01:09:07.000 From that, what's happening?
01:09:08.000 Bad Bunny.
01:09:09.000 Yeah, he'll be the halftime.
01:09:10.000 You had Kendrick Lamar last year.
01:09:12.000 So those are all very, you know, used as tools.
01:09:14.000 But I think Michael Jackson, it's like hard to beat that.
01:09:18.000 The culture's not the same anymore, is it?
01:09:19.000 Because like Michael Jackson, I mean, it was interesting to see those children running towards him.
01:09:24.000 That's not how it would be today.
01:09:26.000 But like, you can't have a mic, you can't have a Michael Jackson now because how are you going to even have Bad Bunny?
01:09:32.000 Because isn't it like I know college football more belongs to the South and to what you might call the nationalist aspect of American culture, but football, that's working class people, isn't it?
01:09:41.000 Ultimately.
01:09:42.000 And how are they going to have someone that's gone fuck ICE when like they're all pro-military, pro-first responders type people and crowd?
01:09:51.000 It's potentially could be the same thing when they did that Bud Light campaign with the transgender person because it's just missing who drinks Bud Light.
01:09:59.000 It's the rebel flag in your audience racist, you know?
01:10:04.000 They fucked it.
01:10:04.000 They fucked it.
01:10:05.000 But they must know.
01:10:06.000 But Massey, what I think is they know what they're doing.
01:10:08.000 I don't know.
01:10:08.000 Some people who have been around go, no, they're all idiots.
01:10:11.000 They're idiots.
01:10:12.000 And sometimes I think that as well.
01:10:14.000 But I think they do know what they're doing in some way.
01:10:17.000 Like, you know, when it comes to division, like, you know, see, all of the words are about evil, about diabolical, speaks with forked tongue.
01:10:23.000 The serpent has no vertical access, only the horizontal access, speaks with the forked tongue.
01:10:28.000 And what I would say is, oh, yeah, all those words, diabolical, like splitness, split, division, that God is a unity force.
01:10:36.000 You can only have true unity in the triune form.
01:10:39.000 You need the principal, the recipient, and you need the sort of connection.
01:10:43.000 You need it somehow.
01:10:44.000 Anyway, I can't understand it.
01:10:45.000 That's beyond human consciousness, I think.
01:10:46.000 So it's beyond mine.
01:10:47.000 What's your prediction?
01:10:48.000 Who's going to win?
01:10:50.000 I think the paedophiles.
01:10:51.000 No, I mean, the Patriots.
01:10:52.000 I think the Patriots.
01:10:54.000 No?
01:10:54.000 I mean, who are you supposed to think is going to win?
01:10:58.000 Patriots.
01:10:59.000 How do you tell?
01:11:00.000 Don't you look at form or something?
01:11:01.000 Ain't someone important?
01:11:02.000 Has someone important been injured?
01:11:03.000 I'm surprised we don't have a polymarket ad for it right now.
01:11:07.000 Never leave me.
01:11:10.000 What about Polymark?
01:11:12.000 Let's look over at Polymarket.
01:11:13.000 Oh, look, it's a squiggly line that says a green button with mouse milk on it.
01:11:18.000 And the winner will be Lord Mouse Milk.
01:11:21.000 Oh, my gosh.
01:11:23.000 Hey guys, thanks very much.
01:11:25.000 Some of that was pretty good That was pretty good.
01:11:27.000 Thanks for joining us.
01:11:28.000 Remember, we will be back Monday, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.
01:11:31.000 We'll be doing our show Crack On where we talk about recovery.
01:11:34.000 Joe, well done for staying up so late on your Technicolor dream pillow of the Aztec Mayan child murdering cult there.
01:11:42.000 Sweet dreams, baby.
01:11:45.000 And well done, Massey.
01:11:46.000 Good work.
01:11:46.000 Good work.
01:11:47.000 Love you.
01:11:47.000 Thanks, Dave.
01:11:48.000 Thanks, Jake.
01:11:49.000 Nice work, Liam.
01:11:50.000 Hopefully, we've got some nice stuff there.
01:11:52.000 All right, praise the Lord.
01:11:52.000 See you Monday.
01:11:53.000 Not for more of the same or the difference.