Stay Free - Russel Brand - November 14, 2022


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709

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Russell Brand is back with a brand new show that you can rely on. This week, he's joined by his good friend Gareth Roy to discuss the latest headlines in the world, including the latest on Joe Biden and Xi Jinping's relationship, and a story about how Jeff Bezos's cleaners are forced to climb out of a window to use the toilet when he's at home. Plus, a new segment called 'Stay Free with Russell Brand' from the Stay Free podcast. Stay Free With Russell Brand is on all of the social medias, if you search for Stay Free, you'll find us. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/OurAdvertisers or use the promo code: "ELISSA" to receive 10% off your first purchase when you enter the offer code: STAYFREE at checkout. This offer ends on 1/31/2019. We apologise for the audio quality at the beginning of the show. We've been working on this episode for a few weeks, and we re working on making sure it's as good as possible. We appreciate the feedback we can get it. Thank you so much for all the support, we really do appreciate it. Stay Free with you! - Your continued support is so appreciated and appreciated. - Stay Free! - Thank you, Stay Free and See Ya'll Next Monday! . . . Stay free, Stay free! xoxxx - P.S. XOXO, P.B. P. and P.A. . PSA: We'll be working on a new episode of Stay Free. Stay free with you, stay free, yay! Stay free. , , P.E. & P.M. ( ) (P.S: P.C. is a is a good job, I hope you enjoy it? . P.R. Thank you. :P. is not a good thing, :) - P) - P&E: (p) (Sorry about the audio is better than the background music in this one? (A. B. is not too loud, but it's not good enough, but I'm sorry about the background noise in the background, but that's not enough, I know it's better than that? )


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The sound of the heart beating.
00:00:07.000 The heart beats faster.
00:00:14.000 The heart beats faster.
00:00:21.000 The heart beats slower.
00:00:36.000 The heart beats faster.
00:00:47.000 The heart beats slower.
00:01:02.000 The heart beats faster.
00:01:05.000 The heart beats faster.
00:01:19.000 In this video, you're going to see the scene circle.
00:01:26.000 Hey, you're watching Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:01:41.000 Finally, a broadcast that you can rely on.
00:01:45.000 Hey, this is much too, this is coming, I'm getting feedback out of these cans or something.
00:01:48.000 Yeah, I've hit you twice.
00:01:50.000 Yeah, once is difficult, twice is unbearable.
00:01:53.000 Where's that coming from?
00:01:54.000 That's coming out of here.
00:01:56.000 Blimey.
00:01:57.000 OK, thanks for joining us.
00:01:59.000 We've got a fantastic show for you today.
00:02:02.000 Here are some headlines for you to consider.
00:02:04.000 With me, of course, is Gareth Roy.
00:02:05.000 Gareth Roy produces the show with me and helps to create the wonderful content that you're about to enjoy that's going to give you a new, awakened and enlightening perspective on world events and, I hope, on your inner life.
00:02:17.000 Thanks for joining me, Gareth.
00:02:18.000 It's a real pleasure, Russell.
00:02:19.000 And over there is young Putin.
00:02:20.000 Do we have a camera on young Putin?
00:02:22.000 Don't think so.
00:02:23.000 No, quite rightly, because he's somewhat... He's part of the reason we're even on this channel, because of his strike-inducing content over at the other place.
00:02:31.000 If you're joining us on YouTube right now, click over to Rumble as quickly as possible so you can enjoy this content free from censorship.
00:02:39.000 You know that there's all sorts of infiltration to be considered.
00:02:44.000 And let's get into the news.
00:02:45.000 Shall we get immediately into the news?
00:02:46.000 Straight into it.
00:02:46.000 Let's do it.
00:02:47.000 Like professionals.
00:02:48.000 Zelensky visits liberated city of Kherson.
00:02:52.000 There he is visiting it.
00:02:53.000 We'll be talking about that and we'll be talking in particular about how the mainstream news reports on that.
00:02:57.000 Of course if you are a member of the Kherson community, if you're a resident of Kherson, this will be tremendous news and cause for great celebration.
00:03:05.000 But Are there aspects of this story that ought be more responsibly covered?
00:03:09.000 That's something we'll be doing.
00:03:11.000 We'll talk a little bit about Remembrance Day and how ceremonies of this nature are used to galvanise jingoistic sentiment without perhaps drawing attention to the genuine sense of connections that ought to underwrite a nation, i.e.
00:03:24.000 are these empty gestures or are they legitimate and real?
00:03:27.000 We'll be fact-checking Biden because he's claimed falsely that student debt forgiveness has been passed by Congress.
00:03:33.000 That's simply not true.
00:03:36.000 Of course, Pfizer and Moderna are launching clinical trials to track health issues such as myocarditis in the years following diagnosis.
00:03:43.000 That is in mainstream media now.
00:03:46.000 So YouTube fact-checkers, watch out.
00:03:48.000 That's an NBC story right there.
00:03:51.000 Joe Biden and Chinese leader... Can you say his name for me?
00:03:54.000 Xi Jinping, I think.
00:03:55.000 Thank you.
00:03:56.000 A meeting during the G20 summit in Biden.
00:03:59.000 And actually, they haven't got a nice time.
00:04:01.000 Yeah, in Bali, not in Biden.
00:04:02.000 They're not doing it in Biden.
00:04:04.000 Some of it's happening inside of Biden.
00:04:06.000 It's a good point.
00:04:07.000 Inside of his mind.
00:04:08.000 Where a lot of things happen.
00:04:08.000 That's true.
00:04:10.000 Yeah, this is happening.
00:04:11.000 So what the claim is here is that they're getting on ever so well.
00:04:14.000 They're smiling and shaking hands and things.
00:04:16.000 This, as the United States prepares to deploy up to six nuclear capable B-52 bombers to Northern Australia, Where they would be close enough to strike China.
00:04:23.000 That's just a coincidence though, and it's unlikely to irritate the powerful nation of China.
00:04:30.000 Don't be worried about those nuclear-capable B-52s.
00:04:33.000 Also, Jeff Bezos's cleaners are forced to climb out of a window to use the toilet when he's home.
00:04:40.000 If Jeff's home, you've got to clamber out of the window just to use the lavvy.
00:04:46.000 Doesn't seem very kind.
00:04:47.000 No.
00:04:48.000 It seems unkind.
00:04:49.000 No, it does seem unkind, because that's even worse than... What are those places where you get, like, a door for just the working people?
00:04:54.000 Like, a poor door.
00:04:55.000 Tradesman's Entrance.
00:04:56.000 One of those.
00:04:57.000 It's not even that anymore.
00:04:58.000 It's the Tradesman's Window.
00:04:59.000 Why should we waste good money on an entrance?
00:05:02.000 You can clamber out the same way we'd let a wasp out!
00:05:06.000 Get out there!
00:05:06.000 I need the toilet, Mr Bezos!
00:05:08.000 And I didn't even do the accent I assumed would be appropriate, which I believe would be a Central or Latin American accent.
00:05:14.000 I don't know exactly where Jeff Bezos lives, but I imagine that's the kind of labour that will be exploited and forced to clamber out of the window.
00:05:22.000 They developed infections because they couldn't use it for long periods.
00:05:25.000 I'm not part of that.
00:05:26.000 Do you think he's just employing the same tactics that they have at actual Amazon warehouses?
00:05:30.000 Because they're not allowed to take toilet breaks, are they?
00:05:32.000 I thought that the lack of toilet breaks was incidental rather than this is my belief.
00:05:36.000 People should not take toilet breaks.
00:05:38.000 Seems like a pretty fundamentalist.
00:05:41.000 That's his main thing.
00:05:43.000 Main thing is no one go for a wee.
00:05:45.000 Also, would you like things delivered to your home quick, smart, pronto?
00:05:48.000 That's number two.
00:05:51.000 But number one is my real priority.
00:05:53.000 No one doing number one.
00:05:54.000 I guess maybe the two are affected by each other.
00:05:57.000 You know, the parcels get there quicker due to the lack of loo breaks, maybe.
00:06:01.000 And the house gets cleaner due to the lack of loo breaks.
00:06:04.000 But I think at the point that you're getting a bladder infection, I would be inclined to just go.
00:06:09.000 As you know, Gareth, I have Simply Weed on command.
00:06:13.000 That's what all of us do, I suppose, when we take a wee.
00:06:16.000 Not in front of the rest of us, though.
00:06:17.000 No, and it was only once, and it was for a stunt-oriented TV show that I briefly participated in.
00:06:22.000 Now, should we look a little more closely at Zelensky?
00:06:27.000 This isn't about him visiting Herson.
00:06:31.000 We watched ABC News reporting on events in Herson and what I was interested in is the celebratory, thank you, tone.
00:06:40.000 Justifiably celebratory, but is there more complexity to this story?
00:06:43.000 Let's give you a bit of a hint.
00:06:46.000 Is this war against a country that has nuclear capacity?
00:06:50.000 And is there some complexity to the forces fighting within the Ukraine?
00:06:57.000 And were that complexity elsewhere in cultural life, would it be the focus?
00:07:00.000 I'm speaking obviously particularly about the... Am I going to say the word Nazi?
00:07:05.000 Yeah.
00:07:06.000 Nazis within the Ukrainian forces.
00:07:08.000 Not that I'm suggesting that, I mean, that that's the, you know, the significant number of the forces, but there's an inconvenient bit of footage.
00:07:15.000 Okay, so this is how mainstream media will give you the story of the, let's call it the liberation of Herson.
00:07:21.000 And by the way, if you're a Ukrainian person, or if you are particularly, what do I want to say, sort of sympathetic to the plight of Ukrainian people, then of course I share with you in the joy of people being able to return To their homes and the idea of a peaceful resolution to this war.
00:07:36.000 I'm certainly not a pro-Putin person.
00:07:39.000 No, this is a comment on the media, isn't it?
00:07:41.000 This is a comment on the media.
00:07:42.000 This is the media I'm commenting on.
00:07:44.000 Let's have a look at how ABC News, in the form of this human, reported on the story.
00:07:49.000 Jubilation in the Ukrainian city of Kherson.
00:07:51.000 The country's troops liberating residents after months of Russian occupation.
00:07:55.000 This soldier returning to the arms of his emotional grandmother who dropped to her knees.
00:08:01.000 Right now that, first of all, I would say that that's...
00:08:05.000 Needlessly emotive.
00:08:06.000 Of course wars do include returning service personnel being greeted by grandmothers, grandfathers, family members and that is pretty beautiful but to highlight that in a news package is obviously biased and it's a sort of a guiding ideal.
00:08:26.000 Here is a grandmother on her knees welcoming home It is important, and it's beautiful, but wouldn't you also like to hear, for example, that in October, Putin warned that any direct clash of NATO and Russian troops could lead to a global catastrophe, while the head of Russia's Security Council recognised that Russia is now fighting NATO in Ukraine.
00:08:47.000 That's something that I'd also like to say.
00:08:49.000 That grandmother is very, very happy.
00:08:52.000 But, also though, like all grandmothers everywhere, She will be less happy if there were a nuclear war.
00:09:02.000 Unless she's one of that rare category of grandma that just loves Armageddon.
00:09:07.000 She's an Armageddon-loving granny.
00:09:09.000 They will exist.
00:09:10.000 They're out there.
00:09:11.000 I don't know if you could sort of base a Coca-Cola campaign on hitting that as your target audience.
00:09:15.000 We want to get those Armageddon-loving grannies as a big group.
00:09:19.000 Or like you're saying, Lisa Marie That's Me says, it's a Wag the Dog moment.
00:09:23.000 And of course that's a reference to the De Niro and Dustin Hoffman movie that shows you how war was
00:09:28.000 Utilized to sort of create I think sort of popularity for an incumbent president. Not I'm suggesting there's any
00:09:35.000 comparison Now we're only going to be on YouTube for another minute
00:09:37.000 If you want to join us and see how we report on Trump and how we want to cover the rest of this story then
00:09:43.000 click over to rumble right now Let's carry on watching the rest of this news Tom Sufi Burrage
00:09:50.000 from Ukraine where there are fears that a humanitarian disaster looms
00:09:54.000 Tonight euphoria in Herson a major Ukrainian city now free from Russian rule
00:10:00.000 now free from Russian rule.
00:10:04.000 That as well, like seeing people with the flags, that's very positive.
00:10:06.000 I can only imagine what it will be like to be able to return to your homes after a foreign invading force had occupied your city. I feel completely, I feel sympathy
00:10:16.000 for them, I feel total support for those people, but wouldn't it be responsible to also
00:10:22.000 mention that Russia possessed 6,000 nuclear warheads and its military doctrine explicitly states that
00:10:28.000 it will use them before it will accept an existential military defeat? Don't you want that
00:10:33.000 included in the news? Yeah I think you probably do. Yeah. Yeah you do.
00:10:37.000 But that seems important as well.
00:10:39.000 What Jeffrey Sachs came on and told us is that this war essentially happened, or was initiated, a long time before what was being stated recently by the media and by governments.
00:10:51.000 And essentially what we're now, this narrative pertains to what we've been told the war is, as in it happened, you know, at the start of this year.
00:11:01.000 It doesn't go back any further, but we know in 2008 William Burns, the US ambassador to Russia, wrote a long memo warning the US policy of trying to turn Ukraine into a NATO proxy on Russia's borders was a red line that could lead to civil war.
00:11:12.000 So we know this goes back much further.
00:11:14.000 And it's also difficult to argue that the mainstream media aren't being reductive in their reporting when a news report focuses and centres on a happy grandma, like when it reduces the story down to Here's a happy grandma.
00:11:27.000 That's the level that we want you to receive this information at.
00:11:32.000 Of course, the celebratory tone is perfectly understandable.
00:11:35.000 With the people of Ukraine, I join in celebration.
00:11:38.000 I love Ukrainian people.
00:11:40.000 I'm so happy that the people of Kherson have got their homes back.
00:11:42.000 I think it's terrible that their country is invaded.
00:11:45.000 And I think the only things that could be worse than what's happened to Ukrainian people would be, obviously, a global apocalypse in which everybody was similarly... There isn't one mention of a proxy war in this news report, is there?
00:11:59.000 No.
00:11:59.000 That's one thing they are not explicitly covering.
00:12:01.000 We'll be talking to Max Blumenthal later from Greyzone, and he'll be, I think, articulating some of the complexities for us.
00:12:09.000 And I'm going to be really pushing back, actually, on that.
00:12:13.000 I'm going to be saying, are you sure about that, Max?
00:12:13.000 Oh, yeah.
00:12:13.000 Yeah, I am.
00:12:16.000 Max, are you sure that you're not got some biases?
00:12:16.000 Yeah.
00:12:19.000 You're not telling... Right, first question I'm going to say is, tell us all of your biases, so as I know exactly what it is you're telling us.
00:12:26.000 Sponsorships.
00:12:27.000 Who's sponsoring you, mate?
00:12:29.000 Big Pharma, is it?
00:12:30.000 Is it Big Pharma?
00:12:32.000 Let's see what else is going on in this news report.
00:12:35.000 Ukrainians hugging and kissing their soldiers, treating them as heroes, autographing flags.
00:12:42.000 Right, we're seeing the grandmother again!
00:12:43.000 That's twice!
00:12:45.000 You've not mentioned proxy war once, you've not mentioned the lethal aid, you've not mentioned NATO infringement on former Soviet Union territories against the peace deal struck between Gorbachev and Reagan, but twice on the kneeling grandmother.
00:13:00.000 I think the kneeling grandmother is an important moment that epitomises a certain aspect of war.
00:13:04.000 That war tears families apart.
00:13:07.000 The people that are willing to give their lives to fighting conflicts are heroes.
00:13:10.000 The Ukrainian people have suffered.
00:13:12.000 These are all important pieces of information, but also what is important to know is, for example, that, um, well, okay, the relentless stream, in the absence of any public discussion of what the U.S.
00:13:24.000 is doing to seek an end to the conflict, has signals, creates a recognition there's no end in sight to the war, and that the U.S.
00:13:30.000 is committed to supporting Ukrainian defense efforts for the long haul.
00:13:33.000 Rather than pursuing a negotiated end to it.
00:13:37.000 That also should crop up in the report.
00:13:39.000 It probably should.
00:13:40.000 grandma down on her knees reunited after months apart and tears of joy.
00:13:49.000 So it's a motive, an emotional reporting on a complex geopolitical issue that involves
00:13:55.000 resources, a proxy war, NATO infringement, ongoing imperialist projects on both sides
00:14:02.000 whether it's the imperialism of Putin and Russia to reclaim territories that they've
00:14:07.000 always regarded as part of Russia and I know that's sort of like a complex and ongoing
00:14:10.000 issue and that the people in Ukraine are clearly overjoyed to have regained sovereignty of
00:14:16.000 their city and that's, I totally sympathise and I agree with them but what we're focusing
00:14:19.000 on is the emotion.
00:14:20.000 Don't you feel that when you personally are receiving information on an emotional level
00:14:26.000 you are perhaps not best poised to appreciate complexity?
00:14:30.000 Who wanted to separate Ukrainians, says Elena, we are united as never before.
00:14:37.000 The Russian retreat revealing a trail of destruction.
00:14:40.000 With many basic services cut off here, an entire population in need.
00:14:45.000 But it's a symbolic and stinging defeat for Vladimir Putin.
00:14:50.000 Ukraine saying it's recaptured 1,700 square miles, an area nearly the size of Delaware in just the...
00:14:57.000 We've got a Delaware back.
00:14:59.000 Often when I sort of hear stuff, though, about, like, Russian retreat and territory maps like this, I can't help but think of the old Second World War, where the Russians were able to demonstrate a considerable degree of tenacity on a summit in Spiagol 2020.
00:15:14.000 Delaware is tiny, by the way.
00:15:16.000 Okay, but...
00:15:17.000 I'm certainly not suggesting that this is not an important victory for Ukrainian people, particularly people that are directly affected by this horrible conflict, who deserve peace and deserve to live freely.
00:15:28.000 What we are trying to assess is the objectivity in the news reporting, and beyond objectivity, which is perhaps impossible to achieve, responsibility.
00:15:38.000 Now have a look at this clip that sort of again demonstrates an aspect of this war that people perhaps are unwilling to address because of the haste to present a simplified narrative.
00:15:51.000 Have a little look.
00:15:53.000 It's just a member of the Ukrainian military celebrating the recapture of Kherson.
00:16:01.000 Just good old-fashioned celebrations.
00:16:03.000 Let's have a look.
00:16:06.000 Residents there have been celebrating their long-awaited freedom.
00:16:09.000 Back in Ukraine, back in Herson.
00:16:14.000 Oh, just a... Wait, what's that?
00:16:16.000 I recognise that wave from somewhere.
00:16:19.000 Cheering wave.
00:16:20.000 The old cheer.
00:16:21.000 Just having a good old cheer.
00:16:23.000 Now...
00:16:24.000 If you're willing to use that gesture as a reason to criticise and condemn rallies for Trump supporters, then it ought be mentioned as a component in this ongoing and complex story.
00:16:39.000 Certainly what I feel we, ordinary people, deserve from our media is some balanced reporting, not what ultimately amounts to propaganda for the aims and agenda of, in this case, the military-industrial complex.
00:16:53.000 I think that's what this is all about, isn't it?
00:16:54.000 I mean, even the BBC back in 2014 reported that the Ukrainian state has provided funding, weapons and other forms of support to extreme right-wing militias, including neo-Nazi ones.
00:17:04.000 And really what we're saying about this is, obviously, the celebration of this, of people's freedoms and of people getting their cities back, is incredible.
00:17:12.000 And that is something to be celebrated.
00:17:13.000 Of course it is.
00:17:13.000 Should be celebrated.
00:17:14.000 But this has happened.
00:17:16.000 Partly due to, for example, the U.S.
00:17:19.000 passing a $40 billion aid package for Ukraine, including $24 billion in new military spending.
00:17:26.000 For Americans, that's $110 million a day over the last year.
00:17:30.000 So this is no doubt being achieved in part due to the help of the U.S.
00:17:37.000 And whilst, you know, members of, I mean, as I said before, the U.S.
00:17:41.000 ambassador to Russia has spoken about how this is a proxy war between U.S.
00:17:46.000 and Russia.
00:17:47.000 So now that we know it's a proxy war, it's being funded by the Americans, and Putin has said explicitly that we will use our 6,000 nuclear warheads if we see any kind of existential military defeat, then this is only going in one direction.
00:18:03.000 I think what you've done there, Gareth, is you've forgotten about the importance of a grandmother.
00:18:07.000 Of course.
00:18:07.000 Perhaps you need another look at a grandmother who's not even using her entire leg to greet her grandson.
00:18:15.000 So there we have it.
00:18:16.000 The reporting of the mainstream media seems somewhat irresponsible, focusing solely on Ukrainian jubilation, an important story Important for people reclaiming their city and their homes to be acknowledged.
00:18:28.000 But in the context of a potential nuclear apocalypse, in a potential proxy war evidently funded by the American military-industrial complex, do you think you're capable of handling that level of complexity?
00:18:41.000 Would you prefer to be told stories like an adult rather than as a child?
00:18:46.000 Let us know in the chat.
00:18:47.000 Let us know in the comments.
00:18:48.000 And remember, Smash that rumble button like your life depends on it, because it might actually depend on it, because perhaps we are the last potential road to freedom.
00:18:58.000 That's too grandiose.
00:18:59.000 I can't say we're the last road to freedom.
00:19:00.000 But I can tell you now that the political shape is shifting in America.
00:19:04.000 Trump as the libertarian messiah, as the rouser, as the swamp drainer, may finally be an era that is at an end.
00:19:13.000 Certainly he's lost a powerful ally in the Murdoch family, because now he's being reported on, not As a saviour, and I know a lot of you lot, you adore Trump, don't you?
00:19:23.000 A lot of people watching this will love Trump, a lot of people watching this will hate Trump.
00:19:26.000 Me, I tend to try to remain transcendent of the Trump phenomena, focusing on the fact that figures like Trump emerge in political landscapes where many people feel that political systems do not respond to them, where many people feel That the state and corporations are operating in harmony to exclude the will of ordinary people being met.
00:19:50.000 But that's just so much verbiage when compared to an image of Donald Trump looking like Humpty Dumpty.
00:19:56.000 So there we go.
00:19:57.000 Don, who couldn't build a wall, right, mentioning that wall, had a great fall.
00:20:03.000 Can all the... It's weird to mention that just to justify the... Yeah.
00:20:08.000 The Trumpty Dumpty pun.
00:20:09.000 Isn't it?
00:20:09.000 Yeah.
00:20:10.000 We'll keep going with this.
00:20:11.000 We'll persist.
00:20:12.000 We're calling him Trumpty Dumpty.
00:20:13.000 Well, hold on.
00:20:14.000 Isn't Humpty Dumpty mostly known for sitting on a wall?
00:20:18.000 That is what we're mostly known for.
00:20:19.000 Hold on!
00:20:20.000 Donald Trump, he had that wall.
00:20:22.000 He was always going to build a wall.
00:20:23.000 It's going to be the best wall.
00:20:25.000 Right, bring that wall up, even though the wall's not actually relevant now, other than to facilitate this pun.
00:20:32.000 Can all the GOP's men put the party back together again?
00:20:35.000 And the future, so that's what it is.
00:20:37.000 They're saying that DeSantis is now the future of the Republican Party.
00:20:42.000 This is essentially, this is a departure.
00:20:45.000 The Trump narrative, at least as far as the Murdoch press are concerned, is over.
00:20:50.000 Yeah, I mean Trump obviously has had an amazing response to it.
00:20:54.000 I've printed you out something here.
00:20:55.000 So Trump says, despite having picked so many winners, I have to put up with fake news.
00:21:01.000 For me, Fox News has always gone, even in 2015-16 when I began my journey, but now they're really gone.
00:21:07.000 We'll show a clip of Fox News to support that.
00:21:10.000 News Corp, which is Fox, the Wall Street Journal and the no longer great New York Post is all in for Governor Ron DeSantimonious.
00:21:21.000 Let me know what you think.
00:21:23.000 Do you think that the Trump era is over?
00:21:25.000 Do you think that DeSantis is the future?
00:21:27.000 Let's have a look at what they say on Fox News.
00:21:31.000 So going into 2024, the Republicans are going to be looking for candidates who are focused on winning, not just making a point or settling a score.
00:21:42.000 So to really change the country, We're going to have to win and we have to win over voters outside our traditional base.
00:21:49.000 That means young people too.
00:21:51.000 That's got to be the goal for the next presidential election.
00:21:54.000 The populist movement is about ideas.
00:21:57.000 I suppose what's significant about this is whether it's in the form of the New York Post or Fox News, you're seeing Murdoch media turn away from Trump.
00:22:07.000 And that's, I suppose, that's surprising and new.
00:22:10.000 Could we have a little look though at the image of Trump as Humpty Dumpty again?
00:22:15.000 Because I've got a little bit more, I would call it, Jungian analysis to offer on that.
00:22:21.000 Now I know a lot of you people, a lot of you watching, a lot of our glorious Awakening community Like Trump, I think because of Trump's ability to skewer and criticise the establishment from a position of authenticity.
00:22:36.000 I was just thinking about what the Humpty Dumpty myth, if I can call it that, represents.
00:22:42.000 And I think it's fragility, and I think it's egotism.
00:22:45.000 And I wonder if on some linguistic level, the word egg, which Humpty Dumpty is, and as Ricky Gervais pointed out in his brilliant special, there's no actual... It never says anywhere that Humpty Dumpty is an egg.
00:22:56.000 That's just something we've all just assumed as a culture together.
00:23:01.000 But I reckon that the reason for that assumption is because of egg, because of that first syllable.
00:23:08.000 So like I reckon what we're being invited to look at is the fragility and egotism of
00:23:13.000 Trump as a figure rather than what was previously presumed is that he had the power as someone
00:23:19.000 that's seen both sides of the veil to report on establishment power and corruption and
00:23:26.000 also ultimately to change it.
00:23:29.000 Some of you feel that Trump did that.
00:23:30.000 Like I know if I ever say what did Trump really do though in government that meaningfully
00:23:33.000 changed the lives of ordinary Americans people say he did this thing that meant that there
00:23:37.000 was manufacturing industry more manufacturing and it was no wars and definitely no wars
00:23:42.000 is a good thing although I think he carried on with the droning.
00:23:44.000 But if we're going to talk about this, we should probably look at Dave Chappelle on SNL, whose analysis, yeah, we don't want to see Fox News again, Dave Chappelle on SNL, whose analysis, as you would expect from perhaps the greatest stand-up comedian ever to have lived, let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments if you think that that is, if that's how you'd describe Chappelle.
00:24:03.000 Talking about something that you don't see people on mainstream media acknowledge enough.
00:24:10.000 And obviously we can't explain it as well as Chappelle does, but let's have a look at Chappelle's analysis of Trump on SNL.
00:24:17.000 And note in particular The discomfort of the audience as they are invited to look at Trump from anything other than a reductive, vilifying and demonizing perspective.
00:24:28.000 Even if you're not celebrating Trump, even if you don't like Trump, you know, this is America.
00:24:32.000 We're meant to be free to like and dislike people according to our personal tastes.
00:24:37.000 People have been kind of trained to hedge their responses to even a mention of Donald Trump.
00:24:43.000 Let me know in the chat, in the comments, what you think of this as Chappelle invites us to look at the phenomena I'm watching the news now, they're declaring the end of the Trump era.
00:24:54.000 Now okay, I can see how in New York you might believe this is the end of his era.
00:24:58.000 I'm just being honest with you, I live in Ohio amongst the poor whites.
00:25:05.000 A lot of you don't understand why Trump was so popular, but I get it because I hear it every day.
00:25:11.000 He's very loved.
00:25:13.000 And the reason he's loved is because people in Ohio have never seen somebody like him.
00:25:19.000 He's what I call an honest liar.
00:25:23.000 I'm not joking right now.
00:25:24.000 He's an honest liar.
00:25:25.000 That first debate, that first debate, I've never seen anything like it.
00:25:30.000 I've never seen a white male billionaire screaming at the top of his lungs, this whole system is rigged, he said.
00:25:38.000 And across the stage was a white woman, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, sitting over there looking at him like, no, it's not.
00:25:44.000 I said, now wait a minute, bro.
00:25:47.000 It's what he said.
00:25:48.000 And the moderator said, well, Mr. Trump, If in fact the system is rigged, as he suggests, what would be your evidence?
00:25:56.000 You remember what he said, bro?
00:26:00.000 He said, I know the system is rigged because I use it.
00:26:05.000 I said, God damn!
00:26:07.000 And then he pulled out an Illuminati.
00:26:11.000 Yeah, that's I suppose the moment that many of us acknowledge that something unusual was happening in
00:26:20.000 American politics and that that territory had been created by the inability of, let's call it the mainstream media and
00:26:27.000 the mainstream political establishment to have an honest discourse about the nature of corruption,
00:26:32.000 The fact that ultimately the both American political parties respond primarily to their donors and to lobbyists and not to ordinary American people.
00:26:43.000 Donald Trump occupied that space with an incredible dexterity and vivacity and that was something that didn't seem to be able to be talked about.
00:26:53.000 I mean and I suppose that in a way perhaps Chappelle saying this now, do you think that's another reason why we should think that the Trump phenomena I don't know how you could ever put anything past Trump anyway.
00:27:11.000 I mean, even when he was saying this about Fox, even in 2015, 2016, when I began my journey, Fox was always gone.
00:27:18.000 I mean, did he ever really need Fox?
00:27:21.000 I know he has that affinity with Sean Hannity.
00:27:25.000 I don't know.
00:27:25.000 Why would you put anything past him?
00:27:27.000 It feels like... I think the other question is how effective is mainstream media in terms of how much impact does Murdoch have now?
00:27:36.000 It'd be very interesting to see that.
00:27:36.000 I don't know.
00:27:37.000 Certainly we're beginning to think that print media is over and mainstream TV is over but if you look at the results of the midterms we do a great story which I think we'll be showing that tomorrow, Gareth.
00:27:47.000 We did a story on How Biden's pledge to eliminate student debt, while in effect incomplete and possibly even downright untrue, has been very effective in mobilising younger voters.
00:28:02.000 So we recognise now that politics is a strategic game It's not about the simple delivery of, what is it you want us to do?
00:28:08.000 Oh okay, we'll do that then.
00:28:10.000 It's about manipulation, deception, performance and spectacle.
00:28:14.000 So if you create that as the climate, that as the environment, then a sort of what I've heard him refer to as a master persuader, like Trump, is going to be able to operate in that space more effectively than these wonkish, bureaucratic, dry old fuddy-duddies from the Democrat Party.
00:28:30.000 What is DeSantis?
00:28:31.000 Is he Trump Mark Two?
00:28:33.000 Or is he Trump Light?
00:28:34.000 Is Trump, once again, what he called him, average, didn't he?
00:28:37.000 Not average.
00:28:38.000 And that's it, like he has another one of Trump's skills.
00:28:40.000 And again, I don't agree with the politics of Donald Trump.
00:28:43.000 I don't agree with the institutions within which he sits, whether that's the Republican Party or Congress or the The White House, I think all of that needs to be radically revised in favour of decentralised political systems.
00:28:55.000 We're simply talking about the phenomena of Trump in the manner that the great master Dave Chappelle is there.
00:29:00.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
00:29:02.000 And let me know if you think, as Gareth is suggesting, that Trump is transcendent of old media anyway.
00:29:07.000 He's found a way of reaching the sort of anger centres of dispossessed and infuriated people.
00:29:14.000 People that don't feel that there's a political class that serves them anymore, if they ever did.
00:29:19.000 For a long time, I've used the phrase politically homeless.
00:29:22.000 I feel like a vagrant.
00:29:23.000 I don't think that the left or right cares about what I want.
00:29:27.000 Ultimately, I see sort of...
00:29:29.000 aspects of libertarianism that I believe in, leave people alone to be whoever they want,
00:29:33.000 regardless of what aspect of their lives that is, and not hurting other people, culturally,
00:29:36.000 sexually, traditionally or progressively. But also I believe in community. I believe
00:29:41.000 that if we don't help one another, voluntarily, but integrally, then we are living in a nihilistic
00:29:47.000 and atrophying society. Really then, we need to find a way of fusing together these ideas.
00:29:53.000 Individual freedom, community responsibility. But this shouldn't be an imposed community
00:29:57.000 responsibility and perhaps never can be again, as long as we know that the government primarily
00:30:01.000 is interested in liberating your money from you and giving it to private interests, whether
00:30:07.000 that's the military industrial complex, big pharma, big media or other aspects of big
00:30:12.000 That's certainly a question I want to put to you lot.
00:30:14.000 And what kind of politicians and what kind of political movement do you want to belong to?
00:30:19.000 How many of you there see as the center of your ideology the right to control what other people do sexually, the right to control what other people do economically, the right to how other people respond to certain vital hot-button topics?
00:30:31.000 Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments.
00:30:33.000 I think it's with Trump, isn't it?
00:30:34.000 What Chappelle's talking about here is, I guess, Trump's ability to own his own hypocrisy.
00:30:40.000 Whilst you can say he probably doesn't do that in every situation, in that situation he did.
00:30:45.000 And maybe that was the moment where people went, this is different, this is something different, even if it didn't turn out to be anything different.
00:30:53.000 He lit something in people where they saw a politician, or a potential future politician, own up to the fact that he uses all these rigged tax codes in the same way that the Democrat donors do as well.
00:31:06.000 And, you know, when it comes to, say, Ron DeSantis, you know, I was reading here, Ron DeSantis invoked a capital riot to reintroduce and pass into law a repressive anti-protest bill that had previously failed.
00:31:17.000 In a video promoting the bill, his party even placed footage of the Capitol breach side-by-side with that of George Floyd protesters, making the case that such out-of-control protesters need to be subdued.
00:31:27.000 So DeSantis has a history of shutting down protests.
00:31:29.000 That's not something that necessarily he would even own in a way that, say, Trump might do, like Chappelle is talking about.
00:31:37.000 I don't know.
00:31:38.000 It's going to be interesting to see how this goes.
00:31:40.000 Obviously, the reason why Murdoch is picking DeSantis is because he thinks he's got a better chance of winning.
00:31:44.000 But who knows what will happen?
00:31:46.000 OK, well, let us know what you think in the comments and the chat.
00:31:50.000 A lot of people here saying that they think that Tulsi and DeSantis would be an unstoppable ticket.
00:31:56.000 But my personal opinion is that within these institutions, within these systems, you will not get results that meaningfully change your reality.
00:32:04.000 Now, I feel like we're not even going to get to the end of this fantastic clip from Chappelle, because we have to move towards our, well, it's our beautiful item.
00:32:12.000 Here's the news.
00:32:13.000 No, here's the effing news.
00:32:14.000 We talk about Bill Gates now.
00:32:16.000 Bill Gates now is either someone that's sort of deified and lauded by a certain portion of the political and mainstream world and vilified in extremists in certain portions of certain online spaces.
00:32:32.000 But the reason I like this story is because it rationally demonstrates Bill Gates' Potential nefariousness, but certainly his irresponsibility when it comes to agriculture.
00:32:42.000 We've had Vandana Shiva come on the show many times and explain to us the negative impact of Gates' ideas on Indian agriculture.
00:32:49.000 But many of you will be unaware of just how harmful his ideas have been to farmers across the continent.
00:32:56.000 You'll love this because it shows how centralising, globalist, technocratic, technologically dictatorial
00:32:56.000 Here's the news.
00:33:04.000 forces have stepped in to control what ought be the territory of ordinary people.
00:33:10.000 Here's the news.
00:33:11.000 No, here's the effing news.
00:33:21.000 He's the answer to all the world's problems and anyone who criticizes him is a conspiracy theorist or a considered academic concerned about him colonizing and monopolizing the world's resources.
00:33:33.000 You're gonna love this.
00:33:36.000 Whenever people talk about Bill Gates, it's usually as a kind of sort of megalomaniacal tyrant or as the savior of the world.
00:33:44.000 When he is harshly criticized, people often think it's a kind of conspiracy-oriented argument derived from his actions during the pandemic or the considerable power of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
00:33:57.000 Recently, 50 agricultural organisations got together to write Bill Gates a letter condemning his approach and suggestions to the problem of food sovereignty.
00:34:07.000 It's a beautiful letter, it's brilliantly articulate, and the reason we want to present it to you today is because it demonstrates that criticising Bill Gates doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist, and it demonstrates Two, that Bill Gates's actions and influence are nefarious and harmful.
00:34:23.000 Stay to the end of this video because we are equipping you with arguments so that you can have a conversation with people and go, oh you're a conspiracy theorist, you're a conspiracy theorist.
00:34:33.000 This is not conspiracy theory.
00:34:35.000 This is Harmful policies that are designed to centralise power and control food.
00:34:41.000 And people are answering back from a position of authority, integrity and expertise.
00:34:47.000 This is not woo woo clap trap or QAnon bullshit.
00:34:52.000 This is important, integral information.
00:34:55.000 But before we get into that, let's see Bill Gates present in solutions in a way that definitely doesn't make you query his motives.
00:35:01.000 After all, he's got a little trolley full of corn.
00:35:05.000 When you see something like that, do you straight away think, this is going to be propaganda?
00:35:09.000 Otherwise, why has Bill Gates got a trolley full of corn?
00:35:12.000 Alright, just watch over that there, Mark.
00:35:15.000 Yeah, Mark, you watch over that, you bloody idiot.
00:35:17.000 Well, I brought some corn with me.
00:35:20.000 Some people call it maize.
00:35:21.000 Because this letter by the Community Alliance for Justice stroke Agriwatch is much more articulate and authoritative than I could ever be, let's get right into it because it addresses the patronising nature of this video and also the fact that Bill Gates is just plain wrong.
00:35:35.000 And it alludes to the idea that there may be more nefarious objectives afoot because almost everything that Bill Gates suggests empowers Bill Gates and interests comparable to Bill Gates while disempowering ordinary people.
00:35:49.000 It's brilliant.
00:35:50.000 Dear Bill Gates, I like that they've called him his full name.
00:35:52.000 You were recently featured commenting on the global state of agriculture and food insecurity.
00:35:57.000 It is your preferred high-tech solutions, including genetic engineering, new breeding technologies, and now digital agriculture, that have in fact consistently failed to reduce hunger or increased food access as promised.
00:36:10.000 So straight away, Bill Gates's suggested solutions do not work and have made the problem worse.
00:36:16.000 In two recent articles, you make a number of claims that are inaccurate and need to be challenged.
00:36:20.000 Both pieces admit that the world currently produces enough food to adequately feed all the Earth's inhabitants, yet you continue to fundamentally misdiagnose the problem as relating to low productivity.
00:36:31.000 We do not need to increase production as much as to assure more equitable access to food.
00:36:36.000 In addition, there are four specific distortions in these pieces which should be addressed.
00:36:40.000 Namely, one, the supposed need for credit for fertilizer, cheap fertilizer, to ensure agricultural productivity.
00:36:47.000 Two, the idea that the Green Revolution of the mid-20th century needs to be replicated now to address hunger.
00:36:52.000 Three, the idea that better seeds, often produced by large corporations, are required to cope with climate change.
00:37:00.000 And four, your suggestion that if people have solutions that aren't singing Kumbaya, you'll put money behind them.
00:37:06.000 What I like about this first paragraph is the initial statement that food poverty could be solved immediately.
00:37:13.000 That the world produces enough food for nobody to be hungry.
00:37:16.000 Now, as countries like the UK and the United States enter into a cost-of-living crisis and likely conditions of poverty not seen for nearly a century, it's important to address that the problem is not a lack of resources.
00:37:30.000 The problem is therefore a political one.
00:37:32.000 That means it relates to systems of the imagination and mind brought into being for the convenience and benefit of hierarchical elites rather than a necessary problem that relates to resources.
00:37:44.000 And I also like the promise that we're going to break down the four assumptions that Bill Gates has made and one by one take them down.
00:37:51.000 First, synthetic fertilisers contribute 2% of overall greenhouse gas emissions and are the primary source of nitrous oxide emissions.
00:37:59.000 Producing nitrogen fertilisers requires 3-5% of the world's fossil gas.
00:38:03.000 They also make farmers and importing nations dependent on volatile prices on international markets and are a major cause of rising food prices globally.
00:38:12.000 Yet you claim that even more fertilizer is needed to increase agricultural productivity and address hunger.
00:38:18.000 Toxic and damaging synthetic fertilizers are not a feasible way forward.
00:38:22.000 Already, companies, organizations, and farmers in Africa and elsewhere have been developing biofertilizers made from compost, manure, and ash, and biopesticides made from botanical compounds such as neem tree oil or garlic.
00:38:34.000 These products can be manufactured locally, thereby avoiding dependency and price volatility, and can be increasingly scaled up and commercialized.
00:38:42.000 The agricultural protests that we're seeing across the world are a result of edicts that they reduce emissions.
00:38:48.000 Meanwhile, Bill Gates is suggesting measures that would increase emissions yet further, claiming that they're ecologically motivated and that they're going to solve problems.
00:38:59.000 So it doesn't make sense, does it?
00:39:01.000 Measures are introduced that persecute ordinary farmers, while simultaneously people that
00:39:06.000 have enormous influence in the agricultural field are suggesting measures that will lead
00:39:11.000 to an increase in emissions, while flying around the world on a private jet to COP27
00:39:16.000 and other meaningless gesture conferences in order to espouse how normal people have
00:39:20.000 got to change their behaviour.
00:39:22.000 Second, the Green Revolution was far from a resounding success.
00:39:25.000 It did very little to reduce the number of hungry people in the world or to ensure equitable and sufficient access to food.
00:39:30.000 It also came with a host of other problems, from ecological issues like long-term soil degradation and socio-economic ones like increased inequality and indebtedness, which has been a major contribution to the epidemic of farmer suicides in India.
00:39:43.000 So of course this indebtedness could perhaps be seen as part of the solution.
00:39:47.000 I've been told before, look at what the results of some of these measures are.
00:39:51.000 And then forget what they told you they were doing it for.
00:39:53.000 Just look at the results.
00:39:53.000 And if the results are, oh, indebtedness or the ability to lock people down, then you can start to think, oh, that's why they did it then.
00:40:01.000 Judge them by their fruits.
00:40:02.000 It's literally biblical.
00:40:03.000 Your unquestioning support for a new green revolution demonstrates willful ignorance about history and about the root causes of hunger, which are by and large about political and economic arrangements, not about a global lack of food.
00:40:15.000 So you're not even told the true nature of the problem, let alone the inefficiencies of the solution.
00:40:20.000 Third, Climate resilient seeds are already in existence and being developed by farmers and traded through informal seed markets.
00:40:27.000 You know that most investments have been in maize and rice rather than locally adapted and nutritious cereals like sorghum.
00:40:32.000 Yet AGRA, the Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa, which your foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, created and financed, has been among those institutions that have disproportionately focused on maize and rice.
00:40:44.000 In other words, you are part of creating the very problem you name.
00:40:47.000 The AGRA initiative, which your foundation continues to fund, has also pushed restrictive seed legislation that limits and restricts crop innovation to well-resourced labs and companies, centralizing power, preventing informal seed markets, disempowering ordinary farmers.
00:41:03.000 These initiatives don't increase widespread innovation, but rather contribute to the privatization and consolidation of corporate monopolies over seed development and seed markets, almost as if that was the intention.
00:41:15.000 Finally, Your assertion that critics of your approach are simply singing kumbaya rather than developing meaningful and fundable solutions is extremely disrespectful and dismissive.
00:41:23.000 Well, of course it is.
00:41:24.000 There are already many tangible ongoing proposals and projects that work to boost productivity and food security, from biofertilizer and biopesticide manufacturing facilities, to agroecological farmer training programs, to experimentation with new water and soil management techniques, low-input farming systems, and pest-deterring plant species.
00:41:42.000 So there are already measures in place that can be controlled and implemented by the communities themselves and don't require the centralization of power, the patenting of seeds and crops, the technologicalization of the process of agriculture, all by the way by a fellow who seems to be buying up Farmland, at the moment, by coincidence.
00:42:03.000 What you're doing here is gaslighting.
00:42:05.000 Presenting practical, ongoing, farmer-led solutions as somehow fanciful or ridiculous, while presenting your own preferred approaches as pragmatic.
00:42:13.000 This is an approach that we see all over the world.
00:42:15.000 Solutions that benefit ordinary people and allow ordinary people to continue to control our lives, control our food.
00:42:21.000 These things are seen as somehow Vulgar, or kumbayari, like all spiritual, stupid, ill-considered.
00:42:28.000 Do you think there's an agenda at play?
00:42:30.000 Let me know in the comments, let me know in the chat if these solutions are pragmatic, or pragmatic only in so much as they empower Bill Gates.
00:42:36.000 Yet, it is your preferred high-tech solutions, including genetic engineering, new breeding technologies, and now digital agriculture, that have in fact consistently failed to reduce hunger or increase food access as promised.
00:42:48.000 And in some cases, the solutions you expound as fixes for climate change actually contribute to the biophysical processes driving the problem, e.g.
00:42:56.000 more fossil fuel-based fertilizers and more fossil fuel-dependent infrastructure to support them.
00:43:00.000 So even the stuff they talk about, the stuff that they do in those conferences, all of their sort of hand-wringing about, we've got to save the planet, we've got to save the climate, they are simultaneously presenting ideas that make the problem worse.
00:43:13.000 So do they really care?
00:43:15.000 Or exacerbate the political conditions that lead to inequality in food access, e.g.
00:43:19.000 policies and seed breeding initiatives that benefit large corporations and labs rather than farmers themselves.
00:43:25.000 That's not a coincidence that we're seeing this worldwide agricultural movement that is presented as being against climate change measures.
00:43:32.000 Meanwhile, digital agriculture and centralisation of resources and ideologies is being presented as the solution.
00:43:38.000 In both articles, you radically simplify complex issues in ways that justify your own approach and interventions.
00:43:44.000 You note in the New York Times op-ed that Africa, with the lowest costs of labour and land, should be a net exporter of agricultural products because their productivity is much lower than in rich countries and you just don't have the infrastructure.
00:43:55.000 However, costs of land and labour as well as infrastructures are socially and politically produced.
00:44:00.000 Africa is in fact highly productive, it's just that the profits are realised elsewhere.
00:44:05.000 Through colonisation, neoliberalism, debt traps and other forms of legalised pillaging, African lives, environments and bodies have been devalued and made into commodities for the benefit and profit of others.
00:44:15.000 Infrastructures have been designed to channel these commodities outside of the continent itself.
00:44:20.000 Africa is not self-sufficient in cereals because its agricultural, mining and other resource-intensive sectors have been structured in ways that are geared towards serving colonial and then international markets rather than African peoples themselves.
00:44:32.000 Although you are certainly not responsible for all of this, you and and your foundation are exacerbating some of these problems
00:44:38.000 through a very privatised, profit-based and corporate approach to agriculture. So Bill
00:44:42.000 Gates is presenting himself as a solution when in fact he is the problem. And many of these arguments
00:44:48.000 about the exploitation of Africa and racial differences and colonialism and imperialism
00:44:53.000 actually centralise on the figures that are trying to make a kind of social profit
00:44:57.000 from saying they're helping.
00:44:59.000 We gotta have a fairer world.
00:45:00.000 Let's put badges on things.
00:45:01.000 Let's support stuff.
00:45:02.000 Let's do the right hashtags.
00:45:04.000 These are the guys that are causing the problems.
00:45:06.000 There is no shortage of practical solutions and innovations by African farmers and organizations.
00:45:11.000 We invite you to step back and learn from those on the ground.
00:45:13.000 That's a flood web, so fuck off Bill.
00:45:15.000 At the same time we invite high profile news outlets, mainstream media, to be more cautious about lending credibility to one wealthy white man's flawed assumptions, hubris and ignorance at the expense of people and communities who are living and adapting to these realities as we speak.
00:45:30.000 I wonder why the mainstream media are so eager Well, I brought some corn with me.
00:45:35.000 Some people call it maize.
00:45:36.000 as if they are somehow financially indebted to him and have commercial relationships with
00:45:39.000 Bill Gates and affiliate organizations that prevent them from telling you the truth and
00:45:44.000 making you realize that wow, all the people of the world have the same problem.
00:45:59.000 Those bloody idiots!
00:46:00.000 They work with less than a hectare, which is about two acres.
00:46:05.000 Stupid!
00:46:06.000 So just about 12,000 times as much as what's sitting right there.
00:46:11.000 Blarf!
00:46:12.000 Fucking damn, you ain't got farm!
00:46:14.000 As Ndidi said, the Green Revolution was a miracle.
00:46:18.000 There's a counter-argument for that.
00:46:19.000 Amazingly, despite low land costs, low labor costs, Sub-Saharan Africa still imports billions of dollars of crops every year from all over the world.
00:46:32.000 Yeah, well, there's a reason for that.
00:46:33.000 And it's not because they're all idiots.
00:46:35.000 There are complex historical and corporate and commercial reasons for it.
00:46:38.000 And that's the reason why the war in Ukraine is now causing a hunger crisis.
00:46:43.000 Yes, there's definitely no subplots there or skullduggery to look at.
00:46:46.000 Look at how the whole thing is simplified.
00:46:48.000 There's just one problem.
00:46:50.000 Well, there's Putin and there's these idiot farmers and I've got the solution to all of it.
00:46:54.000 Let me be in charge of everything.
00:46:55.000 Don't think.
00:46:56.000 And the answer is innovation.
00:46:58.000 Oh, could anyone help us with this innovation, Bill?
00:47:01.000 Is there anyone around here with innovation?
00:47:03.000 Oh, me, mummy!
00:47:04.000 Please pick me!
00:47:06.000 Please pick me!
00:47:06.000 Let me be in charge of everything!
00:47:08.000 And we have some good examples from the past where we did drive innovation.
00:47:14.000 We certainly do, Bill.
00:47:15.000 You can speak to the grieving widows of the farmers of India.
00:47:19.000 The Gates Foundation funded a group of researchers in Africa To breed drought tolerant varieties of maize.
00:47:27.000 Which the letter tells you is one of the crops I don't need so much of!
00:47:30.000 In Kenya, that's enough to feed their family for the whole year and have excess maize to sell for about $880.
00:47:40.000 Bill Gates was boasting that they have magic seeds, crops engineered to adapt to climate change and resist agricultural pests, which ironically is what the people of Kenya call Bill Gates.
00:47:50.000 Because this is the trend, the one thing that will push against that population and climate change.
00:47:57.000 No, no, no, Bill.
00:47:59.000 I think they're saying that many of the fertilizers you're suggesting flying around the world on a private jet.
00:48:03.000 Hey, use some more fertilizers.
00:48:05.000 But aren't those fertilizers costly?
00:48:07.000 Bye!
00:48:08.000 Bye!
00:48:08.000 We can develop the tools and the systems to make sure that people have enough to eat, even despite the negative effects of climate change.
00:48:19.000 Thank you.
00:48:20.000 So there you have it.
00:48:21.000 Bill Gates likes to look at the world as simple data.
00:48:24.000 What I offer you is this question.
00:48:26.000 Is Bill Gates trying to help or is Bill Gates simply suggesting that the solution to all of these problems is to give Bill Gates more power?
00:48:35.000 You let me know in the chat.
00:48:36.000 Let me know in the comments what you think.
00:48:38.000 See you in a second.
00:48:51.000 Synchronicity525.
00:48:53.000 They're trying to control our water.
00:48:55.000 They're going to sell off our water.
00:48:56.000 That's Flash629, actually, says that.
00:48:58.000 They're trying to control food, air, water.
00:49:01.000 Now, we have to be careful, don't we?
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00:49:14.000 I invite you to join this community and help us to become more and more educated and enlightened.
00:49:20.000 Why I like that story is because it's, the one that we've just watched there, is because it's based in fact, it demonstrates the efficacy of real power and the willingness of the media to comply with powerful individuals pursuing aims that they say are undergirded by real science But are clearly underwritten by something more plain and more plainly malfeasant.
00:49:45.000 Greed.
00:49:45.000 A desire for power.
00:49:48.000 Microsoft remains one of the biggest corporations in the world.
00:49:51.000 The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is a significant donor to organisations like the WHO who have power that's not just symbolic but real legislative power and If you want to know someone who's been at the arse end of it while I look no further, then your friend Ol' Russ here, who has a strike on the YouTube, simply for speaking out against the WHO.
00:50:12.000 And I love the people that watch us over there on YouTube, but that's why we had to come here, so that we had the ability to speak plainly and openly.
00:50:19.000 Gareth, we've got to go to Max Blumenthal, because you do not keep a man like Max Blumenthal waiting.
00:50:25.000 He's waiting to talk to us now.
00:50:26.000 We're going to have to put Headphones on so we can just absorb his information.
00:50:30.000 Max, earlier in the show we were talking about the mainstream media's reporting on the Ukraine-Russia conflict, in particular the jubilance and jingoism that has framed the return of Ukrainian forces to Herson, and anyone would understand and support the victory of Ukrainian people who have known such suffering during this conflict, but Is there something irresponsible in presenting just one side of the story?
00:50:55.000 And do you think we're being given a fair depiction of events in the Ukraine and Russia war right now?
00:51:01.000 And what in particular do you think is being neglected?
00:51:04.000 And why, Max?
00:51:06.000 Well, you're right, Russell.
00:51:07.000 There's been a lot of celebration of the Ukrainian military's successful offensive in the Kherson region, and specifically the city of Kherson in southern Ukraine.
00:51:20.000 And Russia has retreated from the West Bank of the Dnieper River and established a new line of defense.
00:51:27.000 This is not something that Russia really wanted to have happen.
00:51:32.000 But whose victory are we talking about among the Ukrainian people?
00:51:36.000 And who are the Ukrainian people?
00:51:38.000 See, these are questions that go to the heart of this conflict and help us provide a context for understanding why this conflict is taking place, what motivated Russia to enter in February, and how this war has actually been going on for eight years.
00:51:55.000 As we see now in Herson, and you're going to have to look on social media to see this, you can look at my Twitter account, you can see it on Telegram channels, and CNN has inadvertently shown some of it along with the AP.
00:52:08.000 Members of that 30% of the Ukrainian population who are ethnic Russian, who have been officially disenfranchised, had their language stripped as an official language, been attacked, slaughtered, jailed, threatened by the regime that was installed with a US-backed coup in 2014, they are being tortured, disappeared, And kidnapped inside her son right now, because they're suspected of Russian sympathies by the Ukrainian so called liberators so for them this is not a liberation.
00:52:42.000 It's why Russia before withdrawing its forces evacuated 80,000 civilians from her son because they would all.
00:52:50.000 be targets of the Ukrainian military and they've done this all across areas that they've supposedly liberated before this we saw it in areas outside Harkiv, like this, the town of coupons for example, neo Nazi.
00:53:07.000 Battalion leader named Maxim Zorin actually published on Telegram video of his men dumping the bodies of civilians into a mass grave that they just executed after accusing him of Russian sympathies.
00:53:19.000 And now we see the same thing happening in Kherson.
00:53:21.000 Soldiers torturing, mocking, bound civilians.
00:53:25.000 Civilians being bound to poles and mocked by the local pro-Ukrainian population.
00:53:31.000 And we've also seen the soldiers coming in with Nazi insignia on their uniforms, like the Totenkopf, which was worn by the Nazi SS in World War II.
00:53:42.000 One apparently pro-Ukrainian civilian was, I think it was an accident, shown by CNN on a national broadcast yesterday sig-hailing as he rode through the town with a Ukrainian flag.
00:53:56.000 I mean, maybe he was sig-hailing, maybe he was just stretching his arm.
00:54:00.000 After torturing collaborators, I don't know what was happening there, but it was an obvious SIG Heil.
00:54:06.000 So what happened the next day?
00:54:08.000 The Ukrainian government banned CNN and Sky News and other networks from the town because they said that their so-called stabilization activities were not complete.
00:54:21.000 So, you know, we're not just talking about some anomalous situation.
00:54:24.000 This is the violence that the entire ethnic Russian population or much of the ethnic Russian
00:54:29.000 population in Ukraine, a large segment of the Ukrainian people, has faced for the last
00:54:36.000 eight years.
00:54:37.000 And it's what fuelled this conflict in the Donbass region.
00:54:40.000 And that's that's a picture that the American public just doesn't get from their media.
00:54:45.000 They're constantly told this is just an unprovoked invasion by a madman who wants to re-establish
00:54:49.000 the Soviet Union.
00:54:52.000 Do you think that these stories are not reported in the mainstream media just because it's
00:54:58.000 too complex for people to handle that there's good and bad on both sides of any conflict?
00:55:07.000 Why is it that we're continually offered, as we were in that report, like sort of saccharine scenes of a grandmother Greeting a soldier, which of course, you know, that's kind of beautiful that that's happening.
00:55:17.000 I'm not suggesting that the Ukrainian people that have suffered as a result of this war don't deserve sympathy and support.
00:55:22.000 What I'm more interested in is the reason that we are just given such a simplistic rendering of this story.
00:55:30.000 Whose objectives are better met by extracting complexity from this narrative?
00:55:36.000 Why is it that we're not allowed to be given the information?
00:55:40.000 Look, there's some complexity here.
00:55:42.000 We participate in this way.
00:55:44.000 How do we find ourselves here, Max?
00:55:46.000 Why is it so diluted and so anodyne and so reductive?
00:55:53.000 Well, the answer is pretty simple.
00:55:56.000 The American public which is detached from the war physically and geographically, needs to not question where their money is going.
00:56:05.000 And some $80 billion of American money has flowed into the pockets of Ukrainian warlords, into arms dealers, and into the contractors in one of the greatest money laundering operations since Afghanistan.
00:56:17.000 I mean, we remember Julian Assange when he commented on Afghanistan in 2011.
00:56:22.000 He said, this war is just about Extracting trillions of dollars from the public and running it through the weapons companies and the big contractors, but running it through Afghanistan.
00:56:34.000 They just need a justification for doing that.
00:56:36.000 So you can't start telling the American public that there are political complexities here.
00:56:41.000 That this is not a battle of good and evil, that this is not a new World War II, or that Ukraine is actually not a democracy.
00:56:48.000 It is an authoritarian state that, like Russia, is cracking down on opposition media.
00:56:53.000 It's basically banned all opposition media.
00:56:55.000 That Zelensky has banned all opposition parties.
00:56:58.000 That he's had his main opponent, who ran against him in 2019, jailed and beaten by the Ukrainian SBU.
00:57:07.000 that human rights activists inside Ukraine who question the war are being disappeared, you can't tell that to the American public.
00:57:14.000 On the human rights issue, it will start to weaken liberal support for the war, and conservative support for the war will start to be weakened when you start to tell them that this is not a moral crusade.
00:57:26.000 So these scenes from Kherson are coming at a time when the Biden administration is pushing back on calls for negotiations.
00:57:40.000 And who are they pushing back against, Russell?
00:57:42.000 They're pushing back against the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of the U.S.
00:57:47.000 military, of the Pentagon.
00:57:49.000 Mark Milley, who's saying this is a time to start talking about peace.
00:57:53.000 Why?
00:57:54.000 Because there's another aspect to Harrison that is extremely dangerous that Americans need to understand.
00:58:00.000 It will be, if Russia's defense is somehow broken on the other side of the Dnieper River, a launching pad for attacking Crimea.
00:58:08.000 And that is the ultimate red line for Russia.
00:58:11.000 If Crimea is attacked, that can take us towards nuclear war.
00:58:15.000 It can lead towards which could lead towards a direct intervention from NATO, and what Millie is doing is drawing a line in the sand against the chicken hawks in the Biden administration Secretary of State Tony Blinken NSC director Jake Sullivan who've never seen war, and who don't have the lives of thousands and thousands of men.
00:58:34.000 on the line.
00:58:36.000 And he's saying, I will not commit US troops, he's getting out ahead of them.
00:58:39.000 So this is really a significant and actually terrifying moment in US politics, especially after the midterms.
00:58:47.000 We can verify, of course, that the expenditure has exceeded what has been spent in Afghanistan and certainly at a pro-rata rate.
00:58:55.000 What terrifies me, Max, is the willingness in pursuit of what appears to be little more than blunt profit and geopolitical and resource-based goals.
00:59:08.000 To take us to the precipice of the apocalypse.
00:59:11.000 We spoke to Jeffrey Sachs when he was on the show about the same thing.
00:59:14.000 Do you think that this is something that... How could you not consider that outcome?
00:59:19.000 And why would you be willing to take the planet so close to annihilation if you had considered that potential outcome?
00:59:27.000 Yeah, why wasn't this considered in the beginning?
00:59:30.000 Why wasn't it considered when the Minsk Accords were on the table?
00:59:33.000 This was the path towards peace that the Donbass Independent Republics agreed to with Kiev.
00:59:43.000 And every ceasefire was broken by Kiev with US encouragement.
00:59:47.000 So this was going on for the last eight years.
00:59:49.000 There were so many opportunities to prevent this conflict.
00:59:53.000 And then once it broke out, And Putin demonstrated that he wasn't bluffing.
00:59:58.000 They invaded.
01:00:00.000 You constantly heard in U.S.
01:00:02.000 media that we can continue to increase our involvement and pour more money and pour more advanced weapons in, like the HIMARS rocket system, which is enabling the Ukrainian advance, and Putin will not escalate.
01:00:17.000 And now we see that that escalation is taking place.
01:00:21.000 Okay.
01:00:22.000 One of the main symbols that Putin is most proud of is the Kerch Bridge between Crimea and the Russian Federation.
01:00:30.000 It cost $4 billion to make with advanced engineering tactics.
01:00:33.000 It was attacked by the Ukrainian SBU.
01:00:36.000 And according to our reporting at the Gray Zone, it looks like there was at least British assistance there.
01:00:42.000 Read Kit Clarenberg's report on our site.
01:00:45.000 It's a blockbuster.
01:00:47.000 They attacked that, knowing that, taunting him to escalate.
01:00:51.000 And what did Russian forces do?
01:00:53.000 They started attacking Ukrainian electrical infrastructure, and now large parts of Ukraine are having blackouts.
01:01:00.000 So the escalation continued.
01:01:01.000 Well, the U.S.
01:01:02.000 media promised, and all the experts in the think tank said this wasn't going to happen.
01:01:06.000 And now they're saying, you know, fanatics like the neocon Ann Applebaum, Who's a confidant of Hillary Clinton, major pro-war pundit in the US.
01:01:15.000 She's saying we should call Putin's bluff on tactical nuclear weapons and continue to escalate and tempting fate once again, but this time with nuclear weapons.
01:01:24.000 These people are insane and they don't care about us.
01:01:27.000 They care about their profits and this is their war, not ours.
01:01:32.000 I live in Washington.
01:01:34.000 I live in Ward 8 in Washington, D.C.
01:01:37.000 It's a mostly monolithically black area of the city.
01:01:41.000 You do not see Ukrainian flags there.
01:01:43.000 And you go across the river to the areas that are filling up with the contractors living in these new luxury condos, or you go across the Potomac River to Northern Virginia, and you see Ukrainian flags everywhere.
01:01:55.000 Why?
01:01:56.000 Because the people living there have skin in the game.
01:01:58.000 The money that's going out to Ukraine from From Ward 8 taxpayers and taxpayers across the country whose communities are being flooded with fentanyl and are facing all kinds of social problems, that's coming right back to those affluent areas in Washington D.C.
01:02:13.000 where the contractors live.
01:02:15.000 Half of the Pentagon's budget goes to contractors, not to the troops.
01:02:19.000 We're not supporting our troops with this money.
01:02:21.000 We're not actually supporting Ukrainian troops with this money.
01:02:25.000 What appears to be the truth to me, Max, and I've had a number of conversations that have verified this view, is that there are several strata of reality.
01:02:37.000 One that is accessible to ordinary people, a sort of a saccharine-covered version of events that invites you to view ...global affairs from behind a lens of simple, reductive, good-evil narratives.
01:02:54.000 Meanwhile, there are interests that span administrations, agenda that take decades to fulfill, that we are not invited to contemplate and consider.
01:03:04.000 We're given images of, like, returning troops hugging grandmas and celebrating crowds.
01:03:10.000 Returning home.
01:03:11.000 And here on our channel, we're not suggesting that those aren't, in a way, certainly victories for Ukrainian people, for the residents of those towns, for people that have had their lives disrupted and destroyed by war.
01:03:21.000 And I'm certainly not suggesting that Putin is anything other than a sort of a powerful world leader who has his own agenda and his own worldview.
01:03:29.000 Merely, what troubles me is the way that we are given information.
01:03:33.000 The inability of the mainstream media and centralised political forces to say, this is what's happening, this is the complexity, these are the potential consequences, the entire thing leads me to believe that we're regarded as idiot children, only trusted with limited information, and I suppose...
01:03:52.000 I'm obviously beginning to query whether or not they have our best intentions at heart.
01:03:58.000 Even your anecdotal example of the difference between the ward within which you live and the neighbouring one suggests that only a certain set of interests are being represented and the rest of us have to make do with a kind of a palatable version of reality.
01:04:13.000 Max, I could obviously talk to you for ages, but we have to wrap up this show now.
01:04:18.000 One question for Max, if there's time.
01:04:20.000 No, there isn't, because there's 63 minutes.
01:04:22.000 If you ask Max a question, your question will take two minutes.
01:04:24.000 Max's answer will take seven minutes, and I think that we have to... I can keep it short if you want to go for it, but...
01:04:31.000 Okay, Max.
01:04:32.000 I just wondered, Max, in light of the news that we were told last week that apparently the US was nudging Ukraine towards peace talks, I just wondered, when you twin that with what we kind of have come to know about Boris Johnson going to Kiev in April and pressuring Zelensky to cut off peace negotiations with Russia, When we look at this news footage and we talk about what we've been fed by the media, I think part of the analysis is not to say people shouldn't be celebrating.
01:04:32.000 Go on then, Gareth.
01:04:57.000 It's more to say, well, hang on, if this could have been ended back in April and yet what we're not being told is, well, Boris Johnson went over there to cut off negotiations.
01:05:07.000 What do you read into this supposed nudging now?
01:05:11.000 Is it real or do they just want to prolong this?
01:05:15.000 Well, two quick points.
01:05:16.000 First, the story about Boris going to Ukraine to push Zelensky not to negotiate was reported by Ukrainian media.
01:05:24.000 And it's amazing how much discipline the British media has shown in not reporting this, or not reporting on the incredible leaks that Kit Clarenberg has reported on British participation in the war at the Grey Zone, or the labor leaks that Al Jazeera's investigative team reported.
01:05:42.000 This is a huge story.
01:05:44.000 Let's look at the timing.
01:05:45.000 That was in the spring.
01:05:46.000 Summer was coming up.
01:05:47.000 That's the time for the offensives.
01:05:48.000 That's the time to flood Ukraine with advanced weaponry.
01:05:52.000 And NATO's calculation was kind of correct that Ukraine was going to start making some offensive gains on the battlefield and they needed to do it before winter.
01:06:00.000 And what else happened?
01:06:03.000 Right after Boris Johnson's visit, it was the big $40 billion vote in the US Congress.
01:06:08.000 So they were starting to pump all that money into Ukraine.
01:06:11.000 The money that I say is going back into Washington, back into the wealthy contractors pockets in London as well.
01:06:18.000 So they needed to extract more money.
01:06:20.000 And they needed to have a bigger war.
01:06:23.000 And you know what's so frightening right now is that the U.S.
01:06:27.000 is now establishing a new command center in Stuttgart, Germany, with a three-star general presiding over it all to continue the war into 2023.
01:06:38.000 So obviously this war has been a great racket that they want to continue for some time.
01:06:44.000 So whatever you think about this conflict, and however much you support Ukraine, having listened to Max describe this situation, and having watched the ABC footage that focuses on the hugging grandmother and not so much on the Sieg Heiling, make your own decision as to whether this war is being accurately and responsibly reported on, whether there are agenda that are being concealed, and whether or not peace has been deliberately averted in favour of profit.
01:07:11.000 I have my suspicions, but I want to know what you think.
01:07:13.000 Let me know in the chat.
01:07:14.000 Let me know in the comments.
01:07:16.000 Max, thank you so much for joining us.
01:07:17.000 Will you come back on?
01:07:19.000 And oh, and if you're interested in following Max's wonderful reporting and that of his colleagues, you can follow him at The Grey Zone.
01:07:24.000 We'll put a link in the description so that you can follow Max's excellent work there.
01:07:28.000 Thank you so much and can't wait to rejoin you and there's an invite for you sometime in the future at the Grey Zone.
01:07:34.000 I'll be on that Grey Zone.
01:07:36.000 We'll come on there together.
01:07:37.000 We're already choosing outfits.
01:07:39.000 We're seeing a stylist.
01:07:40.000 We're consulting.
01:07:42.000 Max, thanks very much for that.
01:07:44.000 Well, everyone, thank you so much.
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