Stay Free - Russel Brand - March 22, 2024


“The Left Are Globalists Now!” George Galloway DESTROYS The Uniparty Establishment - #331


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 15 minutes

Words per Minute

140.90648

Word Count

10,622

Sentence Count

568

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

Join us as we bring you a special edition of Stay Free with Russell Brandt, featuring an important interview with British MP George Galloway. In this episode, Galloway talks about the crisis in Gaza, the uniparty, and what we can do to oppose it. Can parliamentary or congressional politics ever become a tool for its own demise and destruction? And what kind of radical figures will we have to support? What kind of new alliances will we need to make? And how can we take on subjects as wide and varied as war and commerce and migration if we are to stop the descent into new techno-tyranny? And who better to talk about that than our guest today, the great George Galloway, a man who has once again taken parliament by the scruff of the neck, has bruised little Rishi Sunak, and given him a new nickname in the process, the Member of Parliament for Rochdale, George Gelloway. Stay Free, Russell! Stay free, and stay free, wherever you are listening to Stay Free. Stay free! . You can stay free by using the hashtag on social media, and we'll give you the latest updates on what's going on in the world and what's happening in your favourite podcasting platform. . . . Stay free and remember to leave us a five star rating and review on Apple Podcasts! , wherever you get your favourite streaming service. , and don't forget to tell us what you think about what you're listening to this episode. We'll be listening to us on your favorite podcast! Thanks for joining me for a chance to be heard on Stay Free! - stay free! <3 - Russell Brandz - Stay Free - Stay free - Thank you, Thank you! - R. Brandt. - P.S. - Rachael Thank you for listening and supporting me, Rachie - - Thank You, R. & R.Briggs - Cheers, Cheers - Cheers! - Rachel - Rachel - Roshan , Cheers - Rachel & Gav - Cheerio ( ) :) - The Good Morning, Rachel Gooding - Timestamps: 5:00 6:00- 6:30- 7:15-7:00 - 8:20-9:15 - What's Next? 9:30 - What do you think of This Episode? 11:00 | 12:40 - 13:00 + 15:00+ 16:00 & 17:15 14:30 + 15, 21:00 // 22:00 / 15:30


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00:02:18.000 You Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brandt today.
00:02:23.000 It's an important interview with George Galloway that we are bringing with you.
00:02:27.000 If you're watching us on YouTube, we'll be available there for the first 15 minutes, but then we will be exclusively available on that sweet stream of freedom that we call Rumble, because this is a critical moment, not only in British politics, but In the fight against the globalist establishment in your country and in our country.
00:02:44.000 For the first 15 minutes we'll be talking to George Galloway here on YouTube about the war, about the uniparty, about our slide towards techno-feudalism and about what we can do to oppose it.
00:02:56.000 Can parliamentary or congressional politics ever become a tool for its own demise and
00:03:01.000 destruction?
00:03:02.000 And what kind of radical figures will we have to support?
00:03:06.000 What kind of new alliances will we have to make?
00:03:08.000 What kind of global position will we have to take on subjects as wide and varied as
00:03:13.000 war and commerce and migration if we are to stop this descent into new techno-tyranny?
00:03:20.000 And who better to talk to you about that than our guest today, the great George Galloway,
00:03:25.000 a man who has once again taken parliament by the scruff of the neck, has bruised little
00:03:30.000 Rishi Sunak and given him a new nickname in the process, the Member of Parliament for
00:03:34.000 Rochdale, George Galloway.
00:03:35.000 Thanks for coming on.
00:03:36.000 Stay free today.
00:03:38.000 Always a pleasure.
00:03:38.000 Welcome.
00:03:40.000 Privileged to talk with you in a brilliant jacket, by the way.
00:03:43.000 Excellent.
00:03:43.000 Thank you so much for spontaneously noticing that jacket, George.
00:03:47.000 Now, what people say about you, even within the legacy media, is that you are a street fighting politician who knows how to win elections.
00:03:55.000 There is some division because you have come to prominence, of course, on a powerful mandate against the ongoing Massacre or genocide is perhaps the term you would use to describe the thousands and thousands of deaths that are taking place in Gaza right now to a degree supported by arms provided from the United States of America and certainly not opposed or shut down by either our country or by the United States of America.
00:04:22.000 I wonder given that overnight images have been released of drone strikes within Gaza that appear to be striking Well, my blood runs alternately boiling hot and chilled cold because I've seen so much now.
00:04:32.000 as a member of parliament for Rochdale signifies about domestic populations views regarding
00:04:40.000 this conflict and others in the UK and the United States of America?
00:04:46.000 Well my blood runs alternately boiling hot and chilled cold because I've seen so much
00:04:54.000 now I've never seen so much in my whole life. Wholesale slaughter of the innocents for the
00:05:01.000 most part 72% of all the dead and mutilated people in Gaza were women or children mothers
00:05:09.000 and their children very often.
00:05:12.000 It is unconscionable that this has been allowed to go on for so long.
00:05:18.000 It would not have been allowed to go on for so long were the attack dog in question not been the Permanently attached tack dog of the United States and of Great Britain.
00:05:34.000 We invented the State of Israel.
00:05:36.000 We promised it to a small group, actually, of English Jews at the time of the Balfour Declaration.
00:05:45.000 We promised them the land which belonged to a third people, namely the Palestinian people, and then we descended.
00:05:54.000 Down this bloody staircase to the hell that we're watching today.
00:05:59.000 And so sometimes I'm boiling mad.
00:06:02.000 Sometimes tears are running down my cheeks.
00:06:05.000 Sometimes my heart feels numb at the sheer scale and nature of the slaughter.
00:06:12.000 And they say that I ran my by-election on Gaza.
00:06:16.000 Well, if I did, then Gaza won.
00:06:19.000 And the political class needs to take heed of it.
00:06:23.000 Because I didn't just win, Russell, I beat the Tories, Labour, Liberal Democrat and Reform all together.
00:06:32.000 I got more votes than all of them put together.
00:06:35.000 That is a landslide.
00:06:37.000 And if a landslide was achieved in a kind of referendum on Gaza, then Gaza won.
00:06:45.000 So what are the governing parties going to do about it?
00:06:50.000 There are some signs of movement in the United States and in the UK, but the slaughter continues.
00:06:57.000 The starvation continues.
00:06:59.000 The four horsemen of the apocalypse are galloping across Gaza.
00:07:05.000 War, famine, pestilence, and disease are now everywhere, and of course it will not be contained in this tiny piece of land when disease, famine, and all the attendant Conditions that come with it begin to spread.
00:07:22.000 They'll spread into Israel first and foremost, and given a very large number of Israelis are dual nationals of the U.S., of the U.K., and so on, God knows what diseases Are going to be traveling around the world as a direct result of the policy of siege and sanction and slaughter that we've got going on in Gaza.
00:07:47.000 But of course, the truth is, and you know this, I didn't actually only fight the election on Gaza.
00:07:55.000 I fought it on the UNI party, the two cheeks of the same backside, and all their failures, all their disappointments, All their betrayals, all British people as a whole, of all kinds, colours and creeds.
00:08:12.000 The Uniparty is, I suppose, the greatest threat that we all face, whether it's in our country here in the UK or in the United States of America.
00:08:19.000 And indeed, your success in this election and the astonishing triumph that Bobby Kennedy is demonstrating across polls in America now shows that there has long been an appetite for meaningful candidates.
00:08:33.000 Even though, even in offering these two examples of success, we are confronted with the Significance and complication of the issue that we're talking about now.
00:08:43.000 Media spaces have been divided by this war.
00:08:47.000 We, I know when we've spoken before George, how you deplore all forms of racism and surely antisemitism is a form of racism.
00:08:54.000 And this issue is continually used to create division.
00:08:57.000 It's created division in an emergent peripheral anti-establishment right-wing movement that was growing in America, mostly in the kind of media spaces that you and I are now familiar with.
00:09:08.000 Commentators like Stephen Crowder and Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson.
00:09:13.000 We've just heard that Candace Owens has left The Daily Wire.
00:09:17.000 No doubt because, in part because of the stance she's taken on this particular war and the perspective that the Daily Wire and its affiliation with the faith of Judaism and the nation of Israel, understandable given the founders, has caused rifts and division in a space that was starting to coalesce around anti-establishmentism.
00:09:36.000 Also, On the left, George, what I find fascinating is that many groups and individuals that were unwilling to talk up on the matter of censorship and media control are starting to notice that when it comes to the subject of Palestine, and in particular this conflict, there is a great deal of censorship, with many people arguing that part of the reason that the US government wants to bring down TikTok is because it's a place where reporting on Gaza has been accurate and revealing.
00:10:05.000 So, This conflict is very, very unique and shows us the nature of the challenge we now face.
00:10:10.000 Because if there is to be success against the Uniparty, it seems to me that communities that are directly opposed on important issues are going to have to find common ground if we're going to make a dent in the significant power of that party.
00:10:24.000 Do you see alliances as being a possibility, George?
00:10:28.000 And are you looking to make those kind of alliances?
00:10:32.000 Well, first of all, free speech has to be that common ground.
00:10:36.000 I have to be able to speak my truth on Israel-Palestine, and Shapiro has to be able to speak his.
00:10:46.000 I can't close him down.
00:10:47.000 He can't close me down.
00:10:49.000 If we get into the business, in the anti-establishment periphery that you talk about, of actually turning on each other's right to speak Then we have no chance whatsoever of dealing the Uni Party, the globalists, the real deep-seated problem that we have, with no chance of turning them over, no chance of replacing them.
00:11:15.000 So free speech has to be the common ground.
00:11:18.000 I happen to believe that even in the last 48 hours, there's reason to believe that some elements of the right of that anti-establishment periphery are coming around to my point of view on Israel-Palestine.
00:11:34.000 Alec Jones, for example, is now to the left of Joe Biden.
00:11:42.000 Tucker Carlson in the last 24 hours.
00:11:45.000 Candace Owens in the last two or three, four weeks.
00:11:50.000 These are people that are not of the left, But they are people who were a part of our periphery who are now beginning to challenge what was the prevailing orthodoxy on the right on this question.
00:12:06.000 And I'm very glad about that.
00:12:08.000 Especially people who said, America first.
00:12:11.000 You can't say America first if it's actually Israel first.
00:12:15.000 Because Israel might do things that are not in America's interest.
00:12:20.000 But if you have already given them a blank check, a green light, then they're going to go, and indeed Netanyahu today has said that whatever the Americans say, he's going to invade the tent city of Rafah with his army.
00:12:37.000 What could possibly go wrong?
00:12:39.000 There's only 1.7 million people living there in tents.
00:12:43.000 What could possibly go wrong?
00:12:45.000 But yes, alliances, If not electoral alliances, then an alliance that we must defend each other's right to speak freely is, I think, a precondition of progress.
00:12:58.000 But we are standing in hundreds of constituencies on May 2nd in the local council elections and then on what seems to be October 17th in the British general election.
00:13:13.000 We are prepared To negotiate with others, but it's far better to stand as an organized force than as an isolated independent, because unless you're really well known, I mean, Russell Brand independent would be one thing, and we'd be fully behind you.
00:13:36.000 There are one or two others, but unless you're already a big established name, Standing as an independent doesn't quite do it, because you've got no logo on the ballot paper.
00:13:47.000 How do people know which of the many independents on that ballot paper you are?
00:13:53.000 Far better to stand as an organized force.
00:13:55.000 So more and more people are choosing to stand under the workers' rubric and under our logo, the Roundup, red, white and blue, because we are patriotic, you see.
00:14:09.000 We say it's the globalists who are the traitors.
00:14:11.000 To Britain.
00:14:12.000 Not us.
00:14:14.000 We have nowhere else to go.
00:14:17.000 We're not people from anywhere.
00:14:20.000 We have no green card for California.
00:14:23.000 We're stuck here on this rain-soaked but beautiful and green island.
00:14:29.000 And so who could be more patriotic than we who are here and must remain here, have no alternatives?
00:14:39.000 But to remaining here.
00:14:41.000 So our red, white and blue roundel and cog is a symbol of what we stand for and where we stand.
00:14:51.000 I'm fascinated about the possibility that the Workers' Party could make a significant impact in the forthcoming election in our country.
00:14:59.000 2024 is a big election year in our country and in the United States of America and we are seeing the resurgence of revitalised anti-establishment politics both on the left and the right and God knows that to oppose the Uniparty and this Evident globalist plan to assert a techno-feudalist style system on us all.
00:15:20.000 We need to find ways of working together.
00:15:23.000 I'm sure many of our viewers will know you, George, for your historic affiliation with socialism.
00:15:30.000 Many of our viewers will know that you're a working class man from a working class background, a blue collar man who believes in the empowerment of ordinary people, ordinary workers.
00:15:40.000 So perhaps it's not fair to say that Important issue, though it is, that your victory in Rochdale was entirely based on the strong anti-war sentiment that many people feel.
00:15:51.000 And to give Tucker Carlson his due, as a matter of fact, I've always known him to be anti-war across the board.
00:15:58.000 A lot of, indeed, American nativists or American first pundits and political figures, while dismissed widely as racist, often seem to me to be Nationalist in a somewhat 20th century sense, not the worst kind of National Socialism sense I'm keen to add, but just that they believe in the people of their nation.
00:16:19.000 And if nation is something that's real, surely there could be some kind of...
00:16:25.000 Bargain pact agreement that were there to be controls on migration, controls on the border, this must surely be accompanied by a strong anti-war commitment, not to intervene and intercede and disrupt those nations from which migrants tend to come.
00:16:42.000 And of course, I know that what's important to you, George, is that those nations are losing many of their best and brightest doctors, medics and professionals As well as the many economic migrants, refugees, however that you want to describe them.
00:16:55.000 Do you consider it to be interesting, George, the possibility that a non-imperialist, non-interventionist model, i.e.
00:17:03.000 an anti-globalist model, might mean don't get involved in wars, don't get involved in exploiting the resources of these countries, and therefore it seems more reasonable and practical to manage borders sensibly?
00:17:15.000 Because I know that people might be surprised to hear some of your views on migration.
00:17:21.000 Yeah, perfectly put.
00:17:22.000 That is the case.
00:17:24.000 Only a fool or an anarchist or a very, very rich man could possibly want open borders.
00:17:35.000 I'm the leader of the workers, so part of my job, a very important part of it, is to raise the price of labour.
00:17:46.000 The price of what?
00:17:48.000 And, of course, to do that I have to control the supply of labor, otherwise the price of work will plummet, the pressure on the public services.
00:18:01.000 Council housing, National Health Service, places, places in the schools, in the nurseries, and so on, will become broken.
00:18:09.000 It will become impossible for the people I represent, who are, of course, of all colors.
00:18:16.000 We are a multicolored, multicultural country, so there's nothing racist about it.
00:18:22.000 In fact, the free movement of labor that we had before Brexit was white labor from the European Union.
00:18:33.000 It had nothing to do with color or race.
00:18:37.000 It had to do with the supply of labor.
00:18:40.000 And with an endless supply of labor, you have a constantly falling price of labor.
00:18:46.000 Obviously, if I'm the trade union official negotiating with the factory owner and he tells me I've got 5,000 Bulgarians outside are going to do the job cheaper than your members.
00:18:59.000 I'm finished.
00:19:01.000 I could use another F word, but won't.
00:19:04.000 The reality is that this tendency of liberals, and they are liberals actually, small l liberals, to apply ists and isms as pejoratives To ordinary people merely standing up for their own interest is one of the reasons why leftism has such a bad name.
00:19:31.000 And I'm one of those who no longer wants to hear myself described as a leftist, because left has become synonymous With liberalism, with license, with open borders, with, you know, refugees welcome here, and so on.
00:19:53.000 All this is inimical to the interests of the working class of all colors who are already here.
00:20:01.000 Now, you are quite right to identify that one of the drivers of mass immigration, of flows of refugees, is the endless making of war on the poor countries of the Global South, whether it's full-out hot war or economic war or overthrowing popular governments, replacing them with dictatorships like in Latin America, for example.
00:20:31.000 That's what's causing many of these refugee flows.
00:20:35.000 If you stop making war on them, give them a hand up, To build their own economies and their own societies, invest a bit in them, the number of people who want to leave their country will be far fewer.
00:20:50.000 Look, I'm an example.
00:20:52.000 My grandparents came here as Irish refugees from hunger, from famine.
00:21:02.000 If there's no famine, my grandparents, great-grandparents, would never have wanted to leave Ireland.
00:21:09.000 Anyone who's been in Ireland, been in Scotland, knows the islands better.
00:21:14.000 So if you hadn't been driven out of Ireland, you wouldn't be here in the first place.
00:21:20.000 So what I am very interested in is a de facto alliance between the people like Tucker, who are American firstists, Who are nativists, if you like.
00:21:36.000 There's no reason for hostility between him and me.
00:21:39.000 I have no interest in the domestic politics of the United States of America.
00:21:44.000 I just don't want them to come here.
00:21:46.000 I don't want them to bomb here or there or elsewhere.
00:21:50.000 I don't want them interfering in other people's countries.
00:21:55.000 I take my hat off to Tucker Carlson.
00:21:57.000 I mean, you and I are both in the broadcasting game.
00:22:00.000 He is captain, my captain.
00:22:02.000 I take my hat off to him.
00:22:05.000 And I like some of the things that he says, dislike some of the other things that he says.
00:22:11.000 But I'm always listening, aren't you?
00:22:14.000 Absolutely I am, because I think these are exactly the kind of relationships that need to be explored.
00:22:19.000 Indeed, in a truly representative system, there would be freedom for a degree of true diversity, culturally and economically, not just within nations, but within regions, if decentralisation were part of the shared goal.
00:22:34.000 Full autonomy, maximum autonomy, maximum representation.
00:22:38.000 Now, we are going to leave YouTube now precisely because this channel does get subject to a degree of censorship that comes from unelected globalist bodies like the WHO.
00:22:51.000 It does prioritise legacy media outlets that will actively attack independent voices and anti-establishment voices Like George Galloway and like my voice.
00:23:02.000 Indeed though, there's several subjects I want to cover with you George, not least the subject of faith.
00:23:07.000 I believe you are a man of faith.
00:23:09.000 I'm exploring Christianity myself and I think people of the world who believe in spirituality have perhaps more in common with those of us that are those that are brutally materialist and rational to the point that everything ultimately becomes a matter of economics and power dynamics.
00:23:26.000 So We're going to say goodbye to YouTube before we leave.
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00:24:34.000 If you want to stay with us, then you're going to have to join us over on Rumble.
00:24:38.000 Click the link in the description right now.
00:24:41.000 I'm going to be asking George a variety of questions on a variety of extremely important topics.
00:24:47.000 One, I want to know about the election that George is going to be fighting.
00:24:50.000 How can it be considered democracy when you've got two globalists like Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak, two friends of the WEF, who have more in common with one another than they do with any of us?
00:25:00.000 Presenting themselves as opponents in an election.
00:25:03.000 And isn't it just the same in America?
00:25:06.000 What are we gonna do in 2024?
00:25:08.000 How are we gonna make an impact?
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00:25:11.000 George, well it seems to me ludicrous that these two men and these two parties would be presented to the electorate as opposing alternatives.
00:25:19.000 Rishi Sunak with his ties to the WF via his wife and Infosys, her father's firm.
00:25:26.000 Due to his relationship with Moderna, which he was a hedge fund investor for prior to Moderna's massive profits in the last few years, and Keir Starmer, who seems to care more for the WF than he does any of the nations within the United Kingdom, seem to me, and even when you've got figures, and this will mean more to British viewers than it will to Americans, figures like Owen Jones, real cheerleaders of the Labour movement, walking away because the Labour Party's principles have collapsed.
00:25:55.000 What exactly is it that we have to form in this country to oppose them?
00:25:58.000 What does it mean when people walk away from the Labour Party like that?
00:26:03.000 And I wonder how that maps onto the politics of the United States also.
00:26:08.000 Well, you know, people like me, my father, I don't know about you, but I do know your father.
00:26:15.000 We were, we were raised on like mother's milk.
00:26:21.000 The idea that labor was the cause of the working people, and that the conservatives were the champions of free market capitalism.
00:26:36.000 None of these things, neither of these two things, is any longer true.
00:26:41.000 The Labor Party doesn't represent the workers, and the Conservative Party doesn't champion free markets.
00:26:51.000 They want rigged markets.
00:26:53.000 They want to close competitors.
00:26:56.000 They want to lock out people who would otherwise freely compete for business, for profit in the economy.
00:27:06.000 So neither stands for anything that they used to stand for, and both stand for the same set of globalist liberal principles.
00:27:18.000 And I'm going to go further.
00:27:20.000 They're all Blairites now.
00:27:23.000 Tony Blair's legacy is that both the Conservatives and Labour are followers of his liberal globalist ideology.
00:27:35.000 And it increasingly shows they are interchangeable.
00:27:39.000 You could switch the Labour frontbench over to the Tory frontbench and vice versa, and I promise you, you would not notice the difference.
00:27:50.000 There's a nuance here, there's a fake argument there about the colour of the curtains in the Ministry of Paperclips in Whitehall, on or off the income tax, but it's all synthetic sound and fury.
00:28:09.000 And you can see it, now that I'm back in Parliament, see it up close and personal.
00:28:16.000 The fury across the dispatch boxes is replaced by back clapping, mutual congratulation, much laughter as they laugh all the way to their own personal banks.
00:28:32.000 But they have bankrupted the idea of Britain.
00:28:36.000 They have bankrupted Brexit of all meaning.
00:28:40.000 We supported Brexit because we wanted Britain to be an independent country.
00:28:46.000 Free to make its own fiscal and economic policy, its own laws, control its own borders.
00:28:52.000 Free to pick its own friends and not allow other people to pick its enemies.
00:28:57.000 That's the Britain that we wanted post-Brexit.
00:29:02.000 You've just got to look for a moment to see the Britain we got instead.
00:29:07.000 We are locked into whatever the WEF, whatever the globalists have decided we must do, whether we're in the European Union or out of it.
00:29:18.000 So we are going to provide an alternative.
00:29:23.000 You asked earlier what it costs.
00:29:25.000 Luckily, in Britain, it doesn't cost much.
00:29:29.000 In a general election, Each candidate in each constituency is responsible, in our case, responsible for raising their own election expenses.
00:29:40.000 But the cap is £12,000.
00:29:44.000 So in American terms, that's next to nothing.
00:29:48.000 For £12,000, and most communities can raise £12,000 through crowdfunding, through passing the hat round.
00:29:56.000 They can even borrow my hat to do so.
00:30:00.000 Most people can do it, and in each constituency we'll have, for the price of £12,000, a fellow who's on a level playing field.
00:30:09.000 He's at the starting gate, right beside Labour, right beside the Conservatives.
00:30:15.000 And I believe we're going to give them a very good run for their money.
00:30:19.000 We will affect the outcome of hundreds of contests.
00:30:23.000 Hundreds.
00:30:24.000 And I believe that we'll score some spectacular victories.
00:30:28.000 Yes, I think that's a real possibility, George, and a terrifying one for the establishment.
00:30:32.000 And your victory in Rochdale where you scored as many votes as the Conservatives, the Labour
00:30:37.000 Party and the next contender combined shows that there's a real appetite for independent
00:30:42.000 politics and real opposition to the establishment systems.
00:30:45.000 So are you saying that with some significant funding you could be running 100 or 200 candidates
00:30:51.000 in seats that are not at all safe for Labour?
00:30:53.000 Because let's have it right, it's assumed that Keir Starmer is in the Ascendancy ready
00:30:58.000 to assert another four years of globalism on the people of Britain where nothing will
00:31:02.000 meaningfully change for ordinary workers, where the legacy media will continue to lie,
00:31:07.000 where ordinary people will continue to be bowed, where nothing will be done to protect
00:31:11.000 our valued systems of healthcare, our social systems, our transport, not to mention the
00:31:17.000 meaning and connection of these people to their land.
00:31:20.000 Our historic love for this great nation, a true agenda that we can all be bound by together, a genuine pursuit on the world stage of something glorious together, an example to our friends across the ocean of a real independent movement.
00:31:35.000 You think that we could make a real difference if we were to, for example, crowdfund a significant number, say a hundred Or 200 worker party candidates so that the Labour Party would end up going into an election even if they were to win, requiring a coalition or facing a minority government or a hung parliament?
00:31:51.000 That must be terrifying for globalists like the WEF-affiliated Keir Starmer, a man who's abandoned Labour's principles on day one, a man who, as I recall, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong here, George, when there were those riots in London and across our country, wasn't he high up in the legal system ensuring there were Well there were courts running round the clock so poor people could be processed a lot quicker than any 2008 corrupt economy collapsing banker ever might be.
00:32:20.000 So this is a chance to really stick it to these globalists whatever colours they masquerade under.
00:32:27.000 Yeah, that's our aim.
00:32:30.000 It is to create a hung parliament.
00:32:33.000 To reduce Stalmer's majority as far as possible and, if possible, make him dependent upon people like me to get any business through the parliament at all.
00:32:47.000 And our price would be a simple one.
00:32:50.000 It would be for the introduction of proportional representation.
00:32:55.000 We have people enjoying huge parliamentary majorities whilst only polling a relatively small minority of the vote.
00:33:06.000 You can have 30% of the votes, not the voters, if you include the people who don't vote at all.
00:33:14.000 There are people forming governments in this country with 20% of the voters, but they get 50, 60, 70 percent of the seats because we have this first-past-the-post voting system.
00:33:30.000 If we had a voting system like they have in many countries on the mainland of Europe, the Workers' Party would already have 40 or 50 members of parliament.
00:33:43.000 So we want big change in this country, big change in the political system.
00:33:49.000 Big change in the constitutional system.
00:33:51.000 I don't know where you stand on the royals.
00:33:53.000 Maybe you're hoping for a knighthood one day.
00:33:56.000 So I've given up hope of that.
00:33:59.000 Let me be blunt.
00:34:01.000 We have an unelected head of state who will be succeeded By someone whose only qualification is that they were the first born male to the unelected head of state.
00:34:14.000 We have an unelected prime minister whose own members of parliament didn't even vote for him.
00:34:21.000 And we have an unelected foreign secretary, David Cameron, who's come back from the dead, but couldn't get elected to parliament.
00:34:30.000 So they put him in the unelected House of Lords.
00:34:33.000 So our constitution is a monstrosity.
00:34:37.000 The American Constitution is a state of perfection compared to ours, for all of its faults.
00:34:47.000 You've got in America the First Amendment.
00:34:50.000 We have no First Amendment.
00:34:53.000 If the Speaker of the House of Commons decides, he might decide, I've made two powerful speeches this week, look them up.
00:35:01.000 If he decides, actually Galloway's spoken enough, he's getting too many supporters out of these speeches, I'm never going to call him to speak again.
00:35:11.000 I will never speak again in Parliament.
00:35:15.000 It's up to him if I catch his eye or I don't catch his eye.
00:35:20.000 If the feudal big tech companies say Galloway's show is getting too big, the mother of all talk shows.
00:35:29.000 3.9 million views last week alone.
00:35:33.000 We're going to close him down.
00:35:35.000 Like other people, including you, have been closed down, harassed, algorithmically strangled.
00:35:43.000 These feudal lords can do that.
00:35:47.000 And so we have to box very clever, and we have to create our own platform.
00:35:53.000 Have to create and defend our own spaces.
00:35:56.000 That's why we need the alliance I was talking about earlier.
00:36:00.000 We've got to make sure that if they ban us, they've got to ban Tucker Carlson also.
00:36:06.000 And that makes us twice as strong if we have these kind of alliances.
00:36:11.000 Yeah, I think they're absolutely vital and on the subject of techno-feudalism and its already existent sensorial practices, we've made a number of Freedom of Information Act requests that we've now received significant data as a result of.
00:36:26.000 We'll be reporting on that extensively in the coming weeks that shows the scale Of the monitoring and spying by the state, by state departments, and the amount of de-amplication and crushing of dissent that their private proxies have been practicing.
00:36:41.000 This is an outrage.
00:36:42.000 And clearly, with laws being passed in Canada, with the attempts to pass those hate speech laws in Ireland, and with our own online safety bill being passed, there's an attempt now to control the genie that's already out of the bottle.
00:36:56.000 It's become plain that peripheral voices are now able to reach a large number of people.
00:37:01.000 It's become evident that the old categories are collapsing, as you just described.
00:37:06.000 And this is, of course, not unique to our country.
00:37:09.000 This is a truly global phenomena.
00:37:11.000 In a few years ago George, I don't think you would have got the rise of a character like Bobby Kennedy who even two, three, four years ago was regarded as a crackpot on the subject of vaccines and if you've read anything that he's written on that subject he knows a great deal and his research is extraordinary and who is advocating for a different type of America.
00:37:32.000 Now I'm sure and I know right off the top of my head that there'll be subjects on which you would vehemently disagree with Bobby Kennedy but What we're trying to create here are civil spaces.
00:37:42.000 I know a large number of our audience love Donald Trump.
00:37:46.000 That Donald Trump is the berserker, the bull in the china shop, the anti-establishment figure, the drainer of the swamp, the slayer Of that professional class of politicians like Hillary Clinton, who they detest!
00:38:02.000 Our audiences detest those politicians that claim they're going to go into a country like Haiti and help, but ultimately end up exploiting, who put the country of Haiti into the condition it was in by imposing, or in this case, breaking tariffs that were there to protect Haiti's native agriculture.
00:38:19.000 We are united, regardless of the hue or pedigree of our political affiliations or liveries, by a strong anti-globalist message.
00:38:30.000 I wonder, George, what you think about the global agricultural movement right now in Germany, in the Netherlands, in Sri Lanka, in India.
00:38:40.000 Yet another example how top-down edicts are being used to cripple ordinary working people and in particular our ability to create communities, to grow our own food, to trade independently, to run our communities without the intervention, intercession and control of unelected bodies like those that would impose these regulations, of course on the basis of climate change in this instance, on ordinary farmers.
00:39:06.000 And what are your views on that, George?
00:39:08.000 Well, no farmers, no food.
00:39:10.000 And I'll be on Parliament Square on Monday meeting the British farmers who've joined that worldwide movement.
00:39:19.000 And we have to defend our ability to grow our own food.
00:39:26.000 The idea that we can close down our farms under the bogus climate change, apocalyptic Catastrophism of the so-called climate change, extinction, rebellion and so on is perfectly absurd.
00:39:50.000 What we're going to do?
00:39:50.000 Eat insects?
00:39:53.000 Eat bugs?
00:39:55.000 Some of us will never do that.
00:39:57.000 Some of us are unreconstructed red meat eating white straight males.
00:40:04.000 I'll get my coat.
00:40:05.000 I know I'm no longer wanted.
00:40:07.000 The idea that the climate is affected more by cows farting in the field next to where I live than the devastating wars that are taking place.
00:40:26.000 The explosion of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline releasing into the atmosphere the world's greatest ever Methane leakage, the spilling of oil in tankers in the Red Sea because the big companies and countries would not reach an agreement with the people of Yemen for passage across their waterways and so on.
00:40:56.000 These are all, each and every one of them, more significant contributors to climate change Than our farmers are.
00:41:06.000 And frankly life wouldn't be worth living for me if I could not eat the natural food produced by the farmers in my own land.
00:41:18.000 And I intend to continue to be able to do so.
00:41:22.000 Sometimes it seems that the way of life of ordinary people is under attack.
00:41:27.000 The recent rejection of the attempt to change the language in the Irish constitution shows how hopelessly out of touch the globalist elite class are with the people that they govern.
00:41:38.000 I wonder, I wonder, George, how you feel about the legacy media's ongoing willingness to amplify and normalize the agenda of globalists that clearly don't represent the interests of working people, to obfuscate their failings and even their cruelty, while continuing to trumpet and implore Obedience and compliance to their agenda.
00:42:06.000 You mentioned Tony Blair a moment ago and I feel like in a sense it is indeed his legacy within which we live.
00:42:12.000 A man who took this country to war on false pretenses.
00:42:16.000 A man who masked in fact the nefarious intentions of then hawkish republicans who are now the party that is certainly in the if not in that region but certainly with the conflict between russia and ukraine more likely to advocate for peace like the blair in a sense is a figure that we all have to live with the phantom of this somewhat charismatic
00:42:37.000 Yet slick individual who represents the kind of egocentric, detached politics that's come to define an age.
00:42:47.000 I wonder, George, do you feel that there can be some connection between people that revere tradition, that revere God, that revere community and family, and respect for new civil rights movements?
00:43:00.000 Is that opposition and fissure Irresoluble?
00:43:03.000 Or do you think that there, too, there is the possibility for alliance when it comes to traditional communities, Christian communities, Muslim communities?
00:43:10.000 Is it possible for there to be alliances there, too, that can oppose this kind of globalism that only has amplified and berserk wokeism as its only badge?
00:43:23.000 I like that phrase, berserk wokeism, because that's exactly what we are facing here.
00:43:30.000 Nobody wants to interfere in other people's lives.
00:43:37.000 They don't want to see discrimination, bigotry, hatred, hate crimes even less, against people because of their sexual orientation or whatever, and they don't want The behaviour of minorities criminalised at all.
00:43:57.000 I was a champion.
00:44:00.000 I got a Stonewall Award in the 1990s in the British Parliament for my, quite lonely at that time, it was before it was really hip, my quite lonely stand in favour of equality between gay people and straight people, for example.
00:44:22.000 So, I'm untouchable in terms—many of my staff, friends, are gay, and always have been in 37 years in public life.
00:44:35.000 I have had such gay people close to me, oftentimes even living in my house.
00:44:43.000 So, I'm untouchable as a bigot on this.
00:44:48.000 But I don't want my children To be prematurely sexualized in any case.
00:44:57.000 I have young children, as you do yourself.
00:45:00.000 My youngest child is three.
00:45:02.000 I have five children in the school system.
00:45:06.000 I don't want them taught about sex prematurely, and I don't want them taught About sexual preference and orientation and the trans agenda and so on.
00:45:24.000 I want to do that.
00:45:26.000 They're my children, not the school's children.
00:45:29.000 They're not the state's children.
00:45:31.000 I want to educate my children on these personal and social matters According to the ethos in which I believe, I am a Roman Catholic, and that is where I stand.
00:45:46.000 It's the faith of my fathers.
00:45:48.000 I will never leave it, and I want to be able to bring up my children with these ethics at the forefront of their personal and social education.
00:46:00.000 I don't trust it to a here-today-gone-tomorrow school teacher working for a liberal politician who's also here-today-gone-tomorrow, rootless, maybe faithless, almost certainly faithless.
00:46:19.000 So these are Issues, if you like, in which I, an otherwise radical individual, can be credibly described as, small c, conservative on these social matters.
00:46:37.000 I'm against many of the things that liberals insist upon for themselves.
00:46:45.000 And my view is, do it.
00:46:48.000 Go ahead.
00:46:49.000 Enjoy it, if that's what you call enjoyment, but don't frighten the horses and don't do it in front of my children.
00:46:58.000 When I first went to the United States, once it became clear that I was no longer a denizen of the mainstream, this is prior to the accusations and attacks that I would attribute to conspiracy, not, I wouldn't use the word conspiracy, collaboration, evident and demonstrable collaboration between legacy media, online groups that can dismantle or amplify dissent
00:47:22.000 according to their will and state departments which I'll talk about in more detail
00:47:27.000 another time. It became clear to me that figures of the right as they are
00:47:32.000 described whether it's Tucker Carlson or indeed Ben Shapiro with whom of course it
00:47:37.000 would be possible to find various areas to strongly disagree. We've obviously
00:47:42.000 spent some time discussing about you know the differences on the subject of
00:47:46.000 war between a man like yourself and Ben Shapiro. What surprised
00:47:50.000 me and interested me particularly if they were speaking in good
00:47:53.000 faith I know that I was was a willingness to look for ways of forming a
00:47:59.000 Alliances and coalitions with people that had different cultural perspectives.
00:48:02.000 In fact, the example I used with Ben Shapiro is, would you be willing to stand on a platform with supporters of Black Lives Matter or trans movements in order for you to be able to run your own community and your own schools and religious life according to your own principles?
00:48:18.000 If it meant that similarly you would not intervene or interfere with the lives of communities that chose to do things entirely differently.
00:48:25.000 Increasingly it seems as you have said that in the United States of America hot-button cultural issues are used to continually divide people and when I see sometimes in our chat people using speech around Islam or Judaism or Christianity or sexuality I tell them you are doing the establishment's work for them.
00:48:44.000 By opposing one another on these issues you prevent us from unifying in the way that we must have to.
00:48:50.000 Unified but decentralized against the true monolithic power that opposes us all.
00:48:56.000 I, like you, believe that I don't want the state involved in how I raise my children.
00:48:59.000 I don't want the state involved in any aspect of my life as a matter of fact.
00:49:03.000 But as a person of the left, how are we of what was once known as the left, excuse me, How would you suggest that we might oppose the evident globalist forces that are made up of a kind of corporate contract between the state and, as you say, rootless economic interests.
00:49:20.000 I'm speaking of large corporations, the big tech giants, the energy giants, those that would seek to control absolutely agriculture.
00:49:29.000 How do we, George, and what is going to be the role of congressional politics or parliamentary politics or conventional mainstream politics in delivering to us a new politics where we can oppose the true problem, this centralised power?
00:49:43.000 What do you see the route as being?
00:49:45.000 For you, I suppose, it's to stand candidates in October in this country.
00:49:49.000 Are you going to stand someone for Mayor of London?
00:49:52.000 But how do we make sense of it on a global scale?
00:49:55.000 Because it seems it's mostly, whilst it's global, it's emanating from America.
00:50:00.000 I'm afraid it is emanating from America and I'm so old I saw it happening.
00:50:07.000 I saw what I call the Californication of the British political system.
00:50:14.000 The prevailing culture of, you know, I'm a member of the Groucho Club.
00:50:20.000 I think maybe you are.
00:50:21.000 I saw the Groucho Club transform, be californicated, and the journalists, the media, the wider class, policy class, the politocracy that govern us, that set the Boundaries, parameters of the prevailing... I saw it all become Californicated, and I think we've all lost out as a result.
00:50:54.000 No harm to California.
00:50:55.000 I wish I was there right now.
00:50:57.000 It's pouring rain outside in Rochdale, and I'm sure there are wonderful people there, but This liberal prevailing orthodoxy has brought us all low.
00:51:09.000 It's even brought California low, if you ask me.
00:51:13.000 We insist in the Workers' Party that we all have identities.
00:51:19.000 Some are Catholic, some are Protestant, some are atheist.
00:51:22.000 Some support United, some support City, Celtic, Rangers.
00:51:27.000 Some are gay, some are straight, some are black, some are white, some are gingers.
00:51:31.000 We all have multiple identities, but the one overarching identity that we have is that we are all dependent on selling our labor in order to live.
00:51:46.000 If we had no wages at the end of the week, no salary at the end of the month, if that happened two months in a row, We'd be in the poorhouse if they still had poorhouses.
00:51:59.000 We'd be in the workhouse if they still had workhouses.
00:52:03.000 So that's our main identity.
00:52:06.000 Our main identity is that we have to sell our work in order to live and feed and bring up our families.
00:52:16.000 If we can unite everyone who's in that boat, We're uniting the vast majority of people in the country.
00:52:25.000 Our second main identity is that we're here.
00:52:29.000 We've got nowhere else to go.
00:52:32.000 We have no imagined or mythologized country or time to which we can transport all of ourselves.
00:52:41.000 We must make the best of where we are and when we are.
00:52:46.000 And we must do it having united people under the banner of our fundamental identity, and live with each other's football preferences, sexual preferences, colours and religions and creeds.
00:53:03.000 Just tolerate each other.
00:53:05.000 That fellow's fasting now, this one is not.
00:53:09.000 He prays facing that way, he prays facing that way.
00:53:14.000 We can live with all these things.
00:53:16.000 We're humans, after all, for God's sake.
00:53:20.000 George, I've got a few quick questions about globalism that you're going to love, that I'd love to get your perspective on.
00:53:26.000 Do we need NATO anymore?
00:53:29.000 In 2024, what will NATO do for us?
00:53:33.000 You know, I spoke in Parliament on this yesterday, and they were all shifting very uncomfortably indeed, because I was bursting their bubble.
00:53:46.000 And now they know that what was once confined to the Parliament Channel, watched by a few thousand geeks, is now on all of our social media platforms and getting millions of views of my speech and their uncomfortableness.
00:54:05.000 And I made the point.
00:54:06.000 I said, Donald Trump's coming, you know.
00:54:09.000 He's coming in November.
00:54:11.000 And he doesn't much like your NATO.
00:54:14.000 That you have all spent your entire careers burrowing around in.
00:54:20.000 And Donald Trump has made clear that your war in Ukraine will end on day one of a Trump presidency.
00:54:30.000 There'll be not one more dollar, not one more bomb or bullet going to the Zelensky regime.
00:54:37.000 When I said Zelensky regime, the whole house transformed.
00:54:42.000 Their faces assumed grotesque grimaces.
00:54:48.000 I mean, I wish someone could have painted it.
00:54:51.000 As my good wife said, I wish the wind had come in and frozen their faces like that in all their ugliness.
00:55:01.000 I mean, they were baying, baying at me when I was telling them that Donald Trump doesn't like your NATO.
00:55:08.000 Donald Trump's going to end your Ukraine war.
00:55:12.000 Donald Trump thinks the Zelensky regime are crooks that have embezzled billions From the American taxpayer.
00:55:21.000 Oh, Russell, you should have been there.
00:55:25.000 You're too young to have read The Iron Heel by Jack London, but I commend it to you.
00:55:33.000 In The Iron Heel by Jack London, there's a scene when the hero, Ernest Everard is his name, confronts the local chamber of commerce With all the crimes they've committed against the workers and their widows in the town.
00:55:50.000 And he describes how their faces all began to contort and their baying rise and rise.
00:55:57.000 That's what it was like in Parliament yesterday when I confronted with these people with the ineluctable fact that unless they stop him with extreme prejudice, President Trump will be back in November.
00:56:12.000 How about that then?
00:56:13.000 Yeah, that's pretty extraordinary to hear your beautiful description of that.
00:56:18.000 And it shows that in a sense what we have is a religion in all but name.
00:56:24.000 That the belief in the war between Ukraine and Russia can't be subject to any real scrutiny.
00:56:31.000 That people don't want to confront the origins of that conflict and the CIA's intervention and provocation.
00:56:38.000 The fact that Zelensky's doing deals with Black Rock for any eventual post-war scenario.
00:56:44.000 Neither is it often talked about that the media has been centralized in Ukraine and there's been no democracy or certainly no elections there.
00:56:54.000 For a significant period of time has become a religious belief and this peculiar and literally Orwellian ability to transform meaning is happening before our very eyes almost continually.
00:57:05.000 I wonder what you think of this new extremism bill in our country where extremism is being redefined.
00:57:10.000 I think somewhat with you in mind George and certainly With the ability to curtail and stop any populist movements coalescing.
00:57:19.000 It was very diffuse.
00:57:20.000 I saw some language within the bill, which Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak, both of those globalists agreed must be passed, saying if it was against the British way of life.
00:57:30.000 Excuse me, it could be regarded, any speech that was against the British way of life could be regarded as hate speech.
00:57:35.000 What do you think about that bill in particular?
00:57:37.000 Do you think it's targeted at you?
00:57:38.000 And what do you think about the way that language is being changed?
00:57:42.000 Vague hate speech laws, vague censorship being imposed, true information, which is mal-information, being censored if it's not convenient to the agenda of the powerful.
00:57:52.000 Did you ever think you'd witness something like this happening in Western democracies within your parliamentary career?
00:58:00.000 I really didn't, and you know, I was first elected to Parliament 37 years ago, and if someone had said to me 37 years ago that the day would come when in Scotland the hate bill comes into operation on April Fool's Day, I mean, they're laughing at us.
00:58:21.000 On April Fool's Day, if I say to you some of the things that I have already said to you down this camera, but even if it was around my own dinner table, you know the Englishman's home used to be his castle, now you can be charged for saying something in private in your own home that the Authorities, the globalized elite, have decided, constitute hate speak.
00:58:53.000 And it doesn't even have to be things that most of us would consider to be hate speak.
00:59:01.000 You know, I hate this kind of person.
00:59:04.000 I would like to shoot that kind of person.
00:59:07.000 No, that's the number one donor to the British government that said that about my colleague Diane Abbott.
00:59:15.000 Who said that she made him hate all black women and that she should be shot.
00:59:23.000 I'm not talking about that kind of hate speech.
00:59:26.000 I'm talking about this kind of hate speech.
00:59:28.000 That a man cannot become a woman merely by declaring himself to be so.
00:59:36.000 That's hate speech.
00:59:37.000 I can be charged with it.
00:59:40.000 Whether I'm in my own home, Whether I'm talking to Russell Brand on international television or if I'm saying it in any other country in the world.
00:59:51.000 I don't even have to be in Scotland to be charged with it in Scotland.
00:59:57.000 If I turn up in Scotland, which I must do from time to time, I can be arrested for having said it in California.
01:00:07.000 This is a kind of madness.
01:00:10.000 It will either mean We have to have a million police officers doing nothing else with their time but arresting people for hate speech.
01:00:21.000 A million new courts trying people on extremism charges defined by a group of people that most of us would believe are pretty extreme themselves.
01:00:35.000 The pot calling the kettle black.
01:00:38.000 That's probably another example of hate speech I've just uttered.
01:00:42.000 I don't know.
01:00:43.000 My lawyer's not here.
01:00:46.000 The only antidote to all of this, Russell, is free speech.
01:00:50.000 It's the only way it can work.
01:00:52.000 Otherwise, who guards the guards?
01:00:55.000 Who decides who's extreme?
01:00:59.000 Who decides what is malinformation, disinformation, misinformation, or merely official information?
01:01:09.000 The only antidote to this is free speech.
01:01:13.000 Let a thousand flowers bloom.
01:01:15.000 A hundred schools of thought contend.
01:01:19.000 Let the people pick the flower they like the best.
01:01:24.000 Extraordinary the assumption of paternalism that the government espouses and imposes in seeking to censor the information that we might access, that we as sovereign adults may determine for ourselves our medical choices, our cultural choices, our religious choices.
01:01:43.000 I couldn't obviously agree with you more.
01:01:45.000 Obviously the movement you came up in was defined in a sense as a response to mass industrialization and the necessity for workers to be able to impose, oppose the potential tyranny that people that controlled industry may exploit.
01:01:59.000 Now that we live in an age where globalism controls the workforce, I wonder what you think of examples of corporations such as Amazon.
01:02:08.000 Perhaps Amazon is the easiest symbol for us to attack.
01:02:12.000 Where in places like Tilbury, Furrock, where I'm from, there are mass PAC centres, where there are workers' movements find it hard to get off the ground.
01:02:21.000 And for all of the discourse that you've described, much of which is built around compassion, wokeism ultimately comes from ideas that are meant to be about compassion towards vulnerable people, minority people.
01:02:32.000 When it comes to the hard line of the rights of people to earn a living that you spoke about earlier, this is where the compassion seems to sharply run out.
01:02:43.000 Is there a possibility for some kind of movement of workers built around these truly global monoliths that require labour on an international level?
01:02:53.000 Even when they have, you know, distribution factories in countries like ours, distribution centers rather, in countries like ours.
01:02:58.000 Do you see that there's a way to organize on that basis?
01:03:03.000 Or do you think that the way that the working people, ordinary Americans, ordinary British people, perhaps ordinary people around the world, have to organize other than their role in the workplace?
01:03:16.000 Or as you said earlier, do you still see that as a defining aspect of all human life?
01:03:21.000 No, of course, the workplace has changed.
01:03:26.000 In my old constituency in Glasgow, there was once a factory, Parkhead Forge, which employed 30,000 people inside that factory, and every one of them had a union card in their pocket, and they had political education coursing through the workplace and the workforce.
01:03:45.000 All of that has changed, so we have to change also.
01:03:50.000 A person who works for these big monoliths needs to join a union.
01:03:56.000 It's kind of not rocket science that you'll have more power collectively vis-a-vis your employer than you will individually.
01:04:05.000 But even that will not be enough.
01:04:08.000 I think that we are all in these multiple identities that we have.
01:04:12.000 One of the identities we all have is consumers.
01:04:16.000 Now, I'm here to tell you that Starbucks It is on the floor.
01:04:23.000 McDonald's is on the floor because of mass boycotts.
01:04:28.000 I travel a lot, as do you.
01:04:32.000 I've been in several countries recently where there's nobody in McDonald's at all.
01:04:39.000 I mean, zero.
01:04:40.000 Starbucks has changed its name in Ireland, such is the power of consumer boycott.
01:04:48.000 So, The workers who work in these monoliths need to organize for themselves.
01:04:55.000 If the employer resists it, all the rest of it must boycott it.
01:04:59.000 In support of them, we need to define the real enemy.
01:05:08.000 The real enemy is exploitation, one or the other.
01:05:13.000 Exploitation of the earth.
01:05:16.000 The division of the peoples of the world into not just competing but warring factions.
01:05:24.000 This is where my religion and my politics merge, because I believe that all of us are God's children, that none of us are exceptional, that none of us are God's chosen people, that we are all God's chosen people.
01:05:44.000 Then we need to make a world that is fair and equitable.
01:05:49.000 It won't happen overnight.
01:05:51.000 But it's another of the reasons why I oppose mass immigration, to which you alluded earlier.
01:05:57.000 The people of Bangladesh shouldn't have to leave Bangladesh.
01:06:02.000 Bangladesh should be such a beautiful and harmonious and prosperous place.
01:06:09.000 That we might be lucky to move to Bangladesh.
01:06:12.000 That's the world I'm fighting for.
01:06:15.000 And I ask everyone to join that fight.
01:06:17.000 I have one final question, George, that I think will be interesting to you.
01:06:20.000 We've spent a lot of time in the early part of our conversation talking about how particularly fractious, historic, religious and potent the conflict in Gaza is.
01:06:28.000 How it's defined politics for more than a generation.
01:06:31.000 It's defined politics for millennia.
01:06:33.000 That it reaches into culture.
01:06:34.000 That it reaches into economics and ideologies.
01:06:37.000 Even in new emergent spaces where there were extraordinary affiliations starting to form.
01:06:44.000 In particular, I mean, what is known, somewhat glibly perhaps, as the alt-right.
01:06:49.000 You had figures like Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens forming alliances.
01:06:54.000 Now, Candace Owens has just left the Daily Wire, presumably because of differences around this conflict.
01:07:00.000 I want to tie this to a question that connects to our culture.
01:07:03.000 I remember when I first heard of Tommy Robinson, who's come up through football culture in Luton, a town in our country with a large Muslim population.
01:07:12.000 I remember thinking, if you could ever find a way of making the Muslim population and the white working class population of Luton come together and recognise who they were truly opposed to, you would have a movement indeed.
01:07:25.000 With these new media spaces that we participate in, George, becoming increasingly and necessarily politicised, I note with interest that you are avid online because it's presumably a way of reaching your electorate, presumably a way of growing it, presumably a way of ensuring massive success on October the 17th when you oppose the globalists from all across our parliament.
01:07:48.000 I wonder what it means when Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens, on the subject of this war in particular, can't find a way of allowing each other free speech, of coming together in unity.
01:08:02.000 What does it tell us?
01:08:03.000 Is there something unique about this conflict?
01:08:05.000 It's become divisive in places where there was at least a burgeoning sense of potential unity and real opposition.
01:08:12.000 Yeah, it ought not to have been a deal breaker on the issue of free speech.
01:08:18.000 Candace and Ben Shapiro have quite similar views on a lot of things and ought to have been able to live with their difference on this subject.
01:08:30.000 As I said earlier, Tucker Carlson, Alec Jones, and Candace Owen are all moving In the direction towards my position, and I find that very interesting and very significant and actually inevitable.
01:08:48.000 I honestly can't understand how anyone can look at the pictures and videos that I'm looking at, and they are presumably looking at, and come to any other conclusion, unless you believe in exceptionalism, you see.
01:09:02.000 Unless you believe that some of us are more exceptional than others.
01:09:08.000 Some of us are chosen and therefore some of us by definition are not.
01:09:12.000 If you believe that, then you'll believe anything.
01:09:16.000 And if you believe that, you'll believe that the inferior will have to bow down to the superior.
01:09:24.000 The unexceptional bowing down to the exceptional.
01:09:28.000 And I'm religiously forbidden to believe in such things, as well as politically disinclined to do so.
01:09:36.000 So I don't think it's the issue itself.
01:09:41.000 It's the issue of exceptionalism, and that's what we have to dish.
01:09:48.000 It's the one thing that will always divide the likes of Robinson with me.
01:09:53.000 It's the one thing that will always divide a fascist with me.
01:09:59.000 Because a fascist, a Robinsonist, believes that they are exceptional, that the people they support are chosen somehow.
01:10:11.000 If you believe that we're all God's children, if you believe that we're all the sons of Adam, Then you cannot believe in exceptionalism or chosenness or ideas of superiority.
01:10:26.000 And I'm very glad that I was born and grew up in an atmosphere that would never have tolerated any such ideas on my part.
01:10:35.000 George, I knew that it would be a rollercoaster ride to converse with you.
01:10:39.000 I knew that I would learn new things about the Labour movement, the way that conventional and traditional politics can start to coalesce with new and emergent political forces beyond the categories that increasingly seem To be less and less useful.
01:10:55.000 I didn't realize that we would talk so much about faith, about the significance and importance of the role of Christ, but how that does not facilitate exceptionalism in the true believer, George.
01:11:08.000 And also we've had that whole conversation without mentioning our previous time knowing one another on a reality-based show decades and decades ago.
01:11:16.000 We've moved into a different reality indeed, George Galloway.
01:11:21.000 God bless you.
01:11:21.000 God bless you.
01:11:22.000 More power to your elbow.
01:11:24.000 You too, sir.
01:11:24.000 Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to supporting you going forward.
01:11:27.000 Thank you, George Galloway.
01:11:28.000 Thank you.
01:11:29.000 Well, let me know what you thought of that conversation with George Galloway.
01:11:32.000 Did it inspire in you the hope that people from across the political and cultural spectrum, even internationally, can come together to demand more localised democracy, less globalism, more representation and even use existing political systems To oppose globalist establishment power.
01:11:50.000 Is it going to be necessary for us to look at our hardest felt and longed for prejudices and how we can overcome them in order to form a new movement that is powerful and able to attack a potent serpent that is coiled around the globe even now?
01:12:04.000 Surely we have to recognize that we are on the precipice of something important and seismic.
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01:13:57.000 We've got some fantastic guests coming up in the future.
01:14:00.000 Steve Bannon's coming on the show, the architect of Trump's success, who continues to be a thorn in the side of the establishment.
01:14:06.000 We'll be continuing our theme of forming alliances with people from across the political spectrum.
01:14:12.000 If anyone's from the right, it's Breitbart Steve Bannon.
01:14:15.000 If anyone's from the left, it's George Galloway.
01:14:18.000 We are determined to create a movement that will be able to serve you and me and our families and loved ones as we oppose this behemoth that sits astride the We've got Florida Surgeon General Dr. Lapidot?
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01:14:32.000 You might have to break that down for me, because I know he's an important medic and significant voice.
01:14:36.000 In fact, throughout the pandemic period, he was one of the people that you could rely on to say, we're not doing this right.
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