Randall Carlson is an archaeologist, anthropologist, and great storyteller when it comes to deep time and deep history, and understanding alternative perspectives. He's coming up on the show a little later, but in this episode, we're talking about why we should all get vaccinated.
00:00:18.000Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:21.000Randall Carlson's coming up on the show a little later.
00:00:24.000Randall Carlson is an archaeologist, anthropologist, and for me, a great storyteller when it comes to deep time and deep history and understanding alternative perspectives.
00:01:49.000If you've been watching Rumble during the pandemic period, you would have been well aware that you shouldn't take those vaccines, even at the time when it would have been relevant.
00:01:56.000Nevertheless, it's worth looking at these stories now, because we can use it as a kind of litmus test when it comes to information we're currently receiving, and the likelihood that it can't be relied on.
00:02:05.000Certainly you can't rely on the sources that they use, which include Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, nearly every single living president of the United States, lined up behind a syringe in order to tell you what to do.
00:02:34.000These vaccines will protect you and those you love from this dangerous and deadly disease.
00:02:39.000Anytime there is a cross-party alliance, it's worth examining what their motives might be.
00:02:44.000They're playing with harmonious music as if this is a lovely opportunity for generalized unity, but in all likelihood, what you've got is the full force of the establishment coming together to ensure maximum efficiency.
00:03:08.000A consensus across the political spectrum and across the world that the vaccines were safe and effective and if you didn't take them you should be publicly shamed.
00:03:15.000There may be a tremendous effort to get you to forget that.
00:03:20.000This reporting is from John Fleetwood in Substack about Australia's reversal of its recommendations that young people should continue to take the jab.
00:03:28.000In a quiet but historic reversal, the Australian government has officially updated its national immunisation guidance to state that healthy individuals under 18 years old should not receive COVID-19 injections, citing potential harms.
00:03:40.000According to the government's own website, the COVID-19 vaccine is not recommended for healthy infants, children or adolescents who do not have medical conditions that increase their risk of severe illness.
00:03:51.000The update cites the extremely low risk of severe illness in this age group, Here is a medicine.
00:04:07.000It may be advantageous if you have particular respiratory or cardiological conditions.
00:04:11.000If you are young and generally healthy, you don't need the vaccine.
00:04:14.000Now, saying that a few years ago would have been tantamount to these days saying, I don't know, men shouldn't participate in women's sports, or you can't have a moral and ethical system of government if you don't believe in God because there are no absolute verifiable principles, just conjecture and consensus derived either from masses or an intellectual elite, neither of which you can trust.
00:04:36.000So, what I want you to focus on during this video is not just what we know now, but what we don't know now but might yet assume.
00:04:50.000An extraordinary yet recent period of massive radical change, authoritarianism, media deception and wealth transfer.
00:04:58.000The recommendation published on the 3rd of June 2025 marks a stunning shift from earlier public health campaigns that heavily promoted COVID jabs for nearly all Australians, including children.
00:05:09.000The admission follows mounting international concern over adverse events tied to COVID.
00:05:15.000Now, another significant establishment voice was, of course, Anthony Fauci, and whilst he might be currently vilified and under investigation, whether that's a sort of a media investigation or an official governmental one, here he is in his pomp, in his prime with Barack Obama telling you what to do for your safety, for your health.
00:05:36.000Thanks to the work of the Biden administration, Dr. Fauci, we already have...
00:05:50.000Talk to somebody you trust, your family doctor, your pediatrician, a school nurse.
00:06:05.000How could they possibly have known something that's demonstrably now untrue?
00:06:11.000So what was their motivation in telling you that at the time?
00:06:15.000This is this vaccine is tailored for kids.
00:06:19.000And now we know the harms outweigh the benefits.
00:06:23.000So what personal responsibility does Barack Obama and Anthony Fauci bear?
00:06:28.000Certainly they'd have been happy to take the credit when it was record numbers of people getting vaccinations and we're returning to schools.
00:06:34.000Think about all the celebrities that lined up.
00:06:37.000Of course, if your theological purview includes forgiveness, then grant them forgiveness.
00:06:41.000But forgiveness on the basis of repentance, that forgiveness is based on turning away from the old life.
00:06:47.000Do you think that Barack Obama and Anthony Fauci have taken...
00:07:00.000Then come on down and find a spot to get vaccinated.
00:07:03.000You can get it for free just by going to vaccine.gov.
00:07:07.000It'll tell you exactly where you can go to get vaccinated and, you know, make sure to do it, as you said, for your kids, your entire family, as well as for the community at large.
00:07:19.000And I think we should probably tell Barack Obama and Anthony Fauci exactly where to go.
00:07:23.000Let me know in the comments and chat exactly where that might be.
00:07:26.000Now, the FDA have updated their guidance when it comes to Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
00:07:32.000In Fox 5 Health News, the FDA now requires COVID vaccine makers to expand the warning about rare heart diseases and risks linked to the shots.
00:07:42.000All right, joining us now with Dr. Porvie Parikh, Clinical Assistant Professor of Infectious Diseases and Immunology at NYU Langone.
00:07:47.000She has done research with the Pfizer vaccine, by the way, worth noting.
00:07:50.000All right, walk us through what these warning labels now say in the update that the FDA is requiring.
00:07:57.000So, you know, this is a rare side effect of both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, myocarditis or pericarditis, which is inflammation in your heart.
00:08:06.000And currently, that label is already there.
00:08:09.000So Pfizer's vaccine says that the risk is highest in males age 12 to 17, and Moderna says that the risk is highest in males 18 to 24. So essentially what the FDA wants is kind of to combine the two and then, you know, label it for that risk to be from, you know, Age 12 all the way through 24. So it kind of encompasses both of their warning labels, if that makes sense.
00:08:40.000So in the grand scheme of things, you know, if you were to get infected with the actual COVID virus.
00:08:46.000Your risk for myocarditis or pericarditis would be significantly more, and we see that significantly more, you know, as much as twice as likely, and some studies even go so far to say four or five times as likely.
00:08:58.000So, again, this is extremely rare in a very specific age group, and there's also ways to mitigate that risk.
00:09:05.000For example, by spacing out vaccine doses, sometimes they're less likely to get that inflammation.
00:09:10.000But still, for the general public, the risk is extremely low, Excellent framing of the information.
00:09:20.000Remember, the function of the media is to frame information in a manner that is convenient to the agenda of the powerful.
00:09:27.000U.S. CDC data shows that 38,600 deaths have been linked to the COVID jab since 2020, but fewer than 1% of adverse events are even reported.
00:09:36.000As a 2010 HHS-funded Harvard analysis suggests, the real number could exceed 3.8 million.
00:09:44.000The hysterical and marginal prognoses that emerged during that period.
00:09:48.000Unusual men like Steve Kirsch coming forth to tell you that there could be millions of people worldwide affected by this.
00:09:55.000And remember thinking, this can't be true, this can't be right.
00:09:57.000But have a look at these numbers, do a little bit of maths, and it seems likely, given the way that information is currently being released, that they were right.
00:10:03.000Pfizer's own data showed over 1,200 negative health outcomes associated with their mRNA COVID shot.
00:10:10.000Australia's updated guidance comes just days after US Health and Human Services What the COVID period revealed is that elites regard humanity as a kind of homogenous blob,
00:10:32.000that there isn't time to be discerning about whether pregnant women or young children should take the vaccine and how that research could ever have been undertaken.
00:10:40.000Pregnant women don't generally present themselves for clinical trials.
00:10:49.000It's just common sense, as a matter of fact.
00:10:51.000But beyond the common sense are deeper diagnosis of the relationship between the governed and the governing.
00:10:57.000And what's revealed is they will tell you whatever they need to tell you in order to get you to behave how they want you to behave.
00:11:02.000they will always tend towards maximisation of state authority and profitability for corporate and commercial interests.
00:11:09.000That's without getting into any possible accomplishments.
00:11:15.000That stuff is difficult to corroborate.
00:11:17.000What's not difficult to corroborate is they lied at scale.
00:11:20.000They're even now trying to roll back the deception and lies that covered the earth during that period of time.
00:11:25.000Sending out a variety of people to create a sort of a state of bewilderment.
00:11:34.000in order to create really just a climate of generalised confusion in which it's difficult to make the sort of diagnosis that were bleeding obvious to anyone switched on pretty near the beginning of this process.
00:11:43.000The near-simultaneous reversals by two Western governments underscore a growing international retreat from universal COVID vaccination, at least for so-called low-risk populations.
00:11:54.000The good news, at least in the United States of America, For example, these changes within the CDC.
00:12:04.000RFK has removed all members of a CDC panel advising the US on vaccines.
00:12:09.000Also, he said, Today we are taking a bold step in restoring public trust by totally reconstituting the Advisory Committee for Immunisation Practices.
00:12:17.000A clean sweep is necessary to re-establish public confidence in vaccine science.
00:12:20.000The entire world once looked to American health regulators for guidance, inspiration, scientific impartiality and unimpeachable integrity.
00:12:29.000Only through radical transparency and gold standard science can we earn it.
00:12:34.000Now, whilst Kash Patel's interview with Joe Rogan may have garnered a lot of scrutiny as a result of the apparent Bongino and Kash Patel reversal when it comes to the Epstein files, he had some interesting things to say about Fauci.
00:12:49.000I mean, we just had a great breakthrough this week on Fauci.
00:12:54.000So, Senator Rand Paul, Senator Kennedy, and I hate naming names because I always forget people, are doing a great job with us on COVID origins.
00:13:02.000And we've got multiple investigations open on that.
00:13:07.000But they had always been looking for Fauci's original phone, or not original, but phones and devices he used while he was Fauci back in Trump one during COVID.
00:13:26.000Now look, your audience and everybody listening to it should jump to the conclusion, everything's in there.
00:13:32.000We'll look at it, we'll pull it, we'll rip it as we say, and maybe it's deleted, maybe it's not.
00:13:37.000But at least we found it, and at least now we can tell the American people we've been looking, because it is of public importance to figure out, did that guy lie?
00:13:46.000Even if you're an anti-establishment political figure, when you become part of the establishment, then where does your anti-establishmentism go then?
00:13:54.000The function of the system, I suppose, is ultimately its own sustenance.
00:13:58.000So what we're observing unfolding now is a world recognizing that they have to acknowledge there was a lot of deception and ineptitude during the pandemic period.
00:14:06.000Potentially, the entire thing in extremis might be regarded as a plan to legitimize mass authoritarianism and potentially even some of the more peripheral theories around population control.
00:14:17.000But now, various systems of power have to conduct the contradictory task of revealing information that undermines their legitimacy while holding on to their authority.
00:14:35.000There will be revelations, but not to the detriment of the system itself.
00:14:40.000Ultimately, I suppose what we have to conclude is that we must remain personally discerning, never trust authority, and I would suggest investigate together the potential for parallel economies, ecologies, and political systems.
00:15:09.000Drinking coffee that looks like it's been fired out of the arse of GrĂĽttenberg?
00:15:14.000I've just had a cup of 1775 and now I'm vibrating on such a high frequency that Terence McKenna's machine elves are telling me how to do this advert.
00:15:22.000Man, it's completely possible that these entities and beings are interfacing with us right now.
00:15:27.000This isn't your nan's free dried sadness in a tin.
00:15:31.000This isn't the dregs of a wrung out sanitary product.
00:15:37.000I had a cup this morning and accidentally started a new religion.
00:15:41.000It doesn't whisper, it breaks into your subconscious like a caffeinated raccoon rifling through the flaming garbage and screams, Rise, you beautiful dumpster wizard!
00:15:48.000History isn't going to rewrite itself.
00:15:50.0001775 coffee is single origin, high attitude, organic, small batch roasted beans.
00:15:55.000What does that mean in normal personal terms?
00:15:57.000It means like Lady Liberty herself is French kissing your taste buds while bald eagles harmonise in the background.
00:16:05.000This coffee makes you feel seen, makes you feel alive, makes you feel like charging into Parliament on horseback with a scroll of forbidden knowledge and a cinnamon stick.
00:16:13.000I declare myself the new leader of these islands.
00:16:17.0001775, the revolution is coming to you, baby.
00:17:02.000The reason I've been so excited to speak with you is because we live in this sort of blizzard of perpetual present, this kind of ongoing amnesia, where when you're making content, as I do, that's somewhat based on current affairs, what our current affairs on Thursday by Friday seem irrelevant, even if it seems sort of seismic in a pocal for about half an hour, there's sort of endless, relentless...
00:17:34.000And I know from watching your content that you sort of are a student of, expert on, and educator on deep time.
00:17:44.000and I, there's a kind of archetypal topography that I need to understand at depth.
00:17:50.000It feels like we're in a unique and...
00:17:58.000I wonder, Randall, if there are times when you're looking at your feed, if you do such things, when you're looking at this sort of bewildering present and see patterns, archetypes, a kind of sublime geometry that could guide us.
00:18:18.000Yes, I kind of feel like we're poised on an inflection point of history right now because so many things, trends that have been evolving for years.
00:18:35.000Holocene is the geological epoch in which we find ourselves right now.
00:18:39.000It followed upon the Pleistocene, which was about two and a half million years.
00:18:44.000What characterized the Pleistocene from the previous epoch was there was a major shift in the global climate regime.
00:18:51.000And one of the manifestations of that shift was this oscillation between glacial age and interglacial age.
00:19:03.000We're now in an interglacial age that has lasted about 11,600 years, according to the latest data, which is the longest we see any period of interglacial climatic regime over the past roughly quarter million years,
00:19:21.000which I find interesting, because if you look at all of the patterns of the evolution of civilization, What we find is civilizations arise, at least our modern incarnation of civilization arises in that interval of relatively stable climate, which is in very marked contrast to what has preceded us.
00:19:44.000So we've got Homo sapiens sapiens, us, the last man surviving, the last man standing, if you will, of what, 14 different species of hominids?
00:19:57.000That have also inhabited this planet, many of them alongside us.
00:20:06.000We've built our civilization within this window.
00:20:09.000We see, if we go back between 8,000 and 10,000 years ago, we see the shift from nomadic to sedentary lifestyles, the onset of agriculture, the dispersion of languages, the domestication of animals, the first appearance of urban complexes.
00:20:28.000So generally, history and historians have looked at this as the beginning of the awkward arc of history, preceded by millennia of history, Essentially, no evolution of civilization at all.
00:20:46.000But there may be a different model now.
00:20:49.000The model now may be that, and there's evidence to support this, that the model now suggests that all of these things that we've seen developing through the Holocene is actually more realistically portrayed as a reboot or a reset.
00:21:07.000And I think we're realizing that there's a lot deeper, more complex story of our species on this planet than had previously been assumed by academia, scholars, scientists, and so on.
00:21:22.000So we're in this point now where we have these technological capabilities at our disposal.
00:21:29.000And it's everything, really it began in the 20th century with the advent of aerial photography.
00:21:36.000Suddenly we had this broadened perspective of this world that we live in.
00:21:41.000And we started seeing things that no one could see previous to that because we're too small, too close.
00:21:49.000Whereas once you get a higher perspective, you can begin to see these other things.
00:22:03.000What is happening is it's revealing to us a story that's engraved, if you want to use that term, engraved into the literal surface of the planet.
00:22:14.000It's been sitting there for thousands of years, undetected, unseen, because we're too small and it's too grand.
00:22:23.000Now we are in a position where we can begin to see the big picture.
00:22:26.000And what it's disclosing to us is vastly different.
00:22:31.000Pageant of events than we had previously assumed.
00:22:34.000And we have to now be open to the possibility that there may have been other civilizations.
00:22:41.000We know there have been civilizations.
00:22:43.000We know that the Bronze Age civilizations collapsed.
00:22:45.000We know that there were, in fact, two phases.
00:22:49.000Early Bronze Age, late Bronze Age, right?
00:22:52.000But there may have been civilizations that preceded the Holocene.
00:23:01.000In fact, I go so far as to say there probably was civilizations that have been completely lost to history.
00:23:07.000And the reason they've been lost to history, again, is because of these intervals of concentrated change within the continuum of global change.
00:23:19.000We've been in a position now where we've got going 10,000 years of relatively stable climate.
00:23:56.000In the late 1800s compared to the 20th century, and how far we've come in simply 100 years.
00:24:03.000Now, when you think about it in that context, is it not possible that in the duration of hundreds, hundreds of millennia that we modern humans have been occupying this planet, we could have had 300 years, 500 years, where we created something resembling civilization?
00:24:28.000We have to be open to that possibility.
00:24:30.000And there are traditions, of course, from all over the world, and I'm sure you're familiar with some of these traditions, there are traditions from all over the world that suggest there was a former order of existence.
00:24:42.000And it doesn't matter really what you call it, whether it's Atlantis or Hyperborea or Shangri-La or any of the dozens of terms that have come down to us about this universal tradition of there being an earlier order.
00:24:56.000Of the ages, where there was a different, if you will, order of civilization.
00:25:01.000But what we know now, that we didn't know even 25 years to 50 years ago, a generation or two ago, is what happens during these interruptions of the continuum, and how drastically, dramatically, and even violently sometimes the order of nature is upended, and then in the aftermath there's a completely different order of nature.
00:25:25.000And the obvious example of that is the transition out of the Ice Age, which used to be when I was learning about the Ice Age as a kid in the 50s and 60s, the belief was that the Ice Age was something that was tens of thousands of years to form, tens of thousands of years to get out of, into our present environment.
00:25:48.000With the advent of radiocarbon dating and optically stimulated luminescence and all of these new dating technologies, we know now that it's happened way, way quicker than anybody had imagined.
00:26:02.000The problem is, in order to melt the amount of glacial ice that was overlaid on the continents back, let's say, 12,000 to 20,000 years ago, that takes energy.
00:27:45.000Well, Randall, you've retreated into a vortex, but I can hear you very clearly, and as we resume our connection, I'll just, as best as I can, render what I've understood so far.
00:28:01.000What can be measured and registered as our ability to read our environment increases suggests that we've been living in a highly reduced and perhaps even deliberately reductive appraisal of anthropological history, perhaps deliberately rendering civilization according to the lens that we currently have, due to a kind of shared myopia, an inability to even discern what might have once been...
00:28:28.000masked by six million cubic feet of ice, a world unrecognisable to the one that we inhabit now.
00:28:36.000One of the questions that emerged during that beautiful monologue for me, Randall, is how likely it is that there, within our epistemology, that there are pockets of esotericism that are not shared because were we to gain access to the,
00:29:02.000it might make us less likely to submit to the tyrants of the present, as well as seeing a kind of fraternity amongst us across time that would belittle and even maybe negate the sort of senseless tribalism that defines our species.
00:29:19.000Do you think that there are kind of concealed hermeneutics that would change the way that we see reality?
00:29:32.000I feel like we're on the precipice of some awakening, like on the edge of sneeze or the edge of orgasm.
00:29:39.000Like there's something waiting to be born, something waiting to puncture and pierce from outside of time.
00:29:47.000What are the suggestions that there could be some difficult to corroborate but nevertheless puncture?
00:29:57.000Well, I think there's multiple traditions about, you know, esoteric knowledge being handed down through various venues.
00:30:07.000and I think that's a part of it because there are ages of oppression and then there are ages of enlightenment during the ages of oppression sometimes the I use the analogy of a subterranean river, a great river that's flowing underground.
00:30:27.000And from time to time, that river will breach the surface and flow over the surface.
00:30:31.000And then it'll find some opening and it goes back underground.
00:30:35.000And I think there is a river, a great river, a tradition of knowledge that has been handed down.
00:30:40.000I think that the evidence for that is pretty overwhelming.
00:30:44.000And there are various orders and groups that I think have been misinterpreted and had projections of what their purpose in existence was.
00:30:53.000And what that has done is it's, we're in one of those times now where I think we can look at some of those traditions and reevaluate what their role has been in our own history.
00:31:05.000I'll cite probably one of the more well-known beliefs.
00:31:14.000And there's a lot of misinformation about Freemasons going around the internet now.
00:31:21.000And really, when you look into it, it's just, you know, they've got two things that they do primarily.
00:31:26.000Charitable work, and they're the custodians of a vast body of symbolism.
00:31:32.000That body of symbolism tells a very important story, and from my reading of that symbolism, it's telling us some of the same, it's a parallel story to the thing I'm just describing, that there is this long-term view of history, that there are cycles of change, and this is an important concept.
00:31:51.000Are these episodes of change random, or are they cyclical?
00:31:56.000Is there a periodicity to them that could make them somewhat predictable?
00:32:00.000The answer, I think, is most definitely yes, there is a cyclicity to them.
00:32:06.000Not precise like to today, like you can say, oh, on January 12th, such a year, the world's going to end.
00:32:12.000But certainly within an epoch, if you want to put it that way.
00:32:16.000And I would define an epoch, not in a geological sense, but a span of time of perhaps a millennia or two.
00:32:24.000And within that window, it's likely that...
00:32:33.000And when we look back, I've done a lot of work on this, trying to correlate the great upheavals, natural upheavals in Earth history and correlate those with larger astronomical cycles.
00:32:44.000And what it seems is that there's two modes of change that are juxtaposed on one another.
00:33:32.000Mine particularly, yours and everybody's.
00:33:34.000Whether it's British government officials demonetizing people on YouTube, putting people in jail for Facebook posts, or the various other ways the nefarious systems and institutions that work, I reckon, for Satan, drag us down into the pit.
00:35:42.000I wouldn't have thought until you weren't there and I couldn't look at you.
00:35:45.000I didn't realise how important looking at you was.
00:35:47.000One of the main things I was getting from what you were talking about is like these custodians of deep truths, hieroglyphs and important symbols and sigils.
00:35:57.000And I suppose what I'm interested in is how it relates to power.
00:36:12.000I'm fascinated by how the kind of talk, how the discussions of the nature of evil in scripture aligns with more contemporary talk of occultism and satanic ritual online.
00:36:26.000And I wonder in your rather more academic and considered appraisal, there is if you see a kind of a continuum or parallels when it comes to these civilized, You know, particularly when you're hearing these days about child sacrifice.
00:36:53.000You know, Randall, well, it gets kind of salacious and stuff.
00:36:55.000I wonder where in your work those areas, if those areas converge.
00:37:21.000because if they did, you wouldn't be able to control the narrative, which I think that's a huge part of the strategy at present, is we want to control what people think.
00:37:31.000Because if you look at reality through a certain lens, that lens will filter things out.
00:37:40.000And I think our whole education system is oriented around indoctrinating us into a worldview.
00:37:46.000And if that worldview begins to crack or fracture along any fault line, it could spell the end of the whole world.
00:37:57.000the whole model that has been created and inculcated literally, you know, for most of the 20th century now, since the government began to control education, it certainly has accelerated in the last few decades, particularly where, you know, as I look at education, I'm seeing people turning out that no way would have even graduated.
00:38:21.000You know, when I was, you know, And it's degenerated since then, in my opinion.
00:38:30.000And the whole issue of the theological questions.
00:38:39.000I believe that there is a greater intelligence, that it is not a meaningless creation, that it's just a random happening.
00:38:50.000However, when I get into that realm, you know, I'm so overwhelmed by the majesty and power and extent of creation, as I understand it, that I'm almost...
00:39:11.000So I kind of like have to definitely rein it in to the point where, okay, I got to function on a day-to-day basis.
00:39:18.000And, you know, I've been through a lot of various...
00:39:28.000Even going back to my teenage years, I saw things that instantly transformed me over one weekend from basically being a budding juvenile delinquent to being on a quest for God.
00:39:42.000Over those years, I've explored, I've studied with Brahmin priests, I've studied with Himalayan swamis, with whirling dervishes, I've read extensively in the world's spiritual literature, I've gone, you know, explored deeply into Eastern philosophy, then kind of circled back to looking at the Western spiritual traditions.
00:40:02.000I have found a tremendous font of knowledge and wisdom and insight in Christianity.
00:40:12.000Leaning towards early Christianity than I am the later organized version of it.
00:40:19.000I feel like if you get too much into the outer parameters of it, you might miss the inner core, the inner tradition.
00:40:30.000I don't look at Christianity in isolation from the rest of the world's great traditions.
00:40:36.000I believe God works through many venues.
00:40:41.000To reveal himself, herself, however you want to characterize.
00:40:44.000I think God is beyond those kind of characterizations.
00:40:48.000However, I do think that Christianity is a very special dispensation relevant to our own times.
00:40:55.000And from my studies, which are limited compared to some, but my studies would suggest that wisdom of the ages was basically embedded in Codified in, updated in the modern advent of Christianity.
00:41:15.000I find these archetypes that are playing out through the whole Christian tradition, prevalent in many other traditions that go back thousands of years before Christianity.
00:41:30.000But I see Christianity as being sort of an update.
00:41:36.000if you will, that was suitable for the times of 2,000 years ago.
00:41:39.000And now it could be updated again, given what we now know about our position on the planet, in the solar system, in the universe, and so on.
00:41:50.000So from my standpoint, I think that there is a deep roots into the ancient mystery tradition that for me was necessary to accept Christianity as being a unique personality
00:42:09.000And so one of the things that really that I discovered, and you probably know this term gematria or gematria, which is that, you know, in the Semitic languages, and the Old Testament was written in Hebrew and the New Testament was written in Greek, as you know.
00:42:26.000So both of those languages preceded the advent of the Hindu-Arabic numeral system.
00:42:42.000So one of the things I discovered, and this goes back to the 70s and the 80s when I was researching various traditions, was that when you look at the literal stories of the Bible, that underlying those, I think there's a whole doctrine of scientific knowledge.
00:43:14.000And I don't think we would have a chance to get into that today because I'm not prepared to do it.
00:43:20.000But if you want to have a follow-up conversation, I'd love to show you some of the extraordinary scientific knowledge that I think is encoded in the original languages of Scripture.
00:43:35.000Of course, anything that's translative or interpretive when it comes to Scripture potentially can become quite controversial.
00:43:44.000And as a recent Christian, one of the aspects of it that seems significant to me is this kind of willing self-subjugation, self-sacrifice, and this new position of obedience, which when I was in a previous personal incarnation of Spirit,
00:44:02.000Spiritual exploration allowed me to stay at the very centre of a variety of beliefs, which did include psychedelic experimentation and some personal peripatetic learning.
00:44:18.000What's been interesting since coming to Christ is there's a few things that probably one of the few people in the world I could probably launch at in the unbridled manner that I'm about to.
00:44:30.000When in the protean, the undifferentiated super state, one might encounter all sorts of phenomena, demonic and difficult to discern, difficult to appreciate and understand and abide amongst.
00:44:46.000I felt when dealing with the shamanic that I was attempting to handle the living flow.
00:44:52.000You referred earlier in our conversation to a subterranean river, the living flow, the living water.
00:45:00.000The two images that presented themselves to me recently in Costa Rica, whilst I was not under any psychedelic influence at all, was the image of the bridge and the image of the cross or crucifix.
00:45:25.000I need to be held to account on the crucifix and live in the frequency of the covenant of the man-god, fully man, augur, harbinger, and bringer of these new frequencies by coming into flesh, coming into carnation, through the blood entering.
00:45:42.000into the spirit, this sort of elemental design and this elemental, what do I want to say, sort of new rubric established through the sacrifice in the coming together.
00:45:53.000I personally, close to the edge of insanity.
00:46:13.000I just want to give one illustrative example of what I'm trying to describe because I know I'm saying, like, I'm using a lot of language, I'm bandying about a lot of terms here, but sometimes I just try to create a silhouette.
00:46:26.000A polysyllabic silhouette, Randall, that I know you'll be able to discern the shape emerging magnetically out from the molecules.
00:46:34.000Just recently I heard that in these new intravenous DMT experimentations, they're putting their subjects under MRI, and some of the entities that are being encountered in these DMT IV states are asking, what's going on with the MRI?
00:47:00.000Where else do we get the expression aluminum foil hat or in my language, tin foil hat?
00:47:05.000Mentally ill people often believe that their thoughts are being intercepted, interceded and observed by entities, often in alignment with the government.
00:47:13.000It occurred to me just recently when thinking about MKUltra and the various experiments that took place with psychedelics and experimentation on mentally ill people, that potentially there's a clandestine and secondary history, even with recent events such as this.
00:47:29.000That potentially the reason that mentally ill people who glitch and are outside of the main circuitry sense that there may be entities observing them is because there are, that potentially government collusion with entities, secondary entities and secondary beings and phenomena might include the establishment of connections, psychic connections and psychic communes that people that are not bound by the sort of conventional
00:47:58.000perspective, who haven't been cloistered and narrativised by the mainstream and by the dominant frequency, sense and in Isn't part of madness the sense that on the edge of your understanding is another world?
00:48:13.000Doesn't Christ continually talk about daemons, entities, beings, that which can't be understood?
00:48:19.000Aren't we continually instructed to seek first the kingdom of God, to embrace the ever-present heaven, the atemporal, aspatial, a-manifest?
00:48:29.000Reality that's accessible to us through our consciousness that's somehow disrupted, disturbed and diluted by the senses, not enhanced, although I suppose you could make a case for the glory of nature can bring us closer to the supernatural.
00:48:41.000I suppose that's a sort of a pagan claim, but certainly not one without legitimacy.
00:48:46.000So what I suppose I'm saying is that somehow in Christ I felt the collapse from the super state of potentiality into something particular, the cross.
00:48:56.000I need the horizontal and the vertical.
00:48:58.000I need the man-god to come and to die to instantiate a new frequency that I can live within, because I don't do well in the chaos.
00:49:07.000That's not to say that some people can't, but my absolute faith in Christ has come about because in this surrender, something becomes available to me that was not previously available somehow.
00:49:19.000It's not dampened my curiosity about...
00:49:25.000That's the kind of ethereal esotericism and the sort of citadels as yet unvisited that may yet be real.
00:51:25.000By becoming disconnected from nature, we've sort of become disconnected from the creator.
00:51:32.000So we have the creator, we have creation, which is, to me, God's handiwork, which is filled with insights and lessons and knowledge and wisdom that we're losing because we've become an urbanized civilization.
00:51:48.000And so many young people now that I know could not have never, I know people who are of college age, in their 20s, who've never seen the Milky Way galaxy, who've never stood out there in a rural area, And that's missing.
00:52:09.000I think that that's going to be detrimental to our species if we become disconnected from the creation.
00:52:17.000Because for me, I look at the creation and it's like a great manuscript.
00:52:22.000Which is talking to us, which is teaching us.
00:52:24.000And it's a direct message from the higher power, the higher creative power, that created this incredible confluence of things that makes it possible for you and I to sit here having this conversation.
00:52:41.000If we shift the parameters, even in the slightest, all this goes away.
00:52:53.000And you might say that my roots of spirituality became teleological at some point in the 70s where I began to think that the creator has hidden his wisdom in the creation that we are a part of.
00:53:09.000And so for me, it's like reading the sacred writings of old, but also then reading.
00:53:23.000And this is what led me essentially, I guess, into this great eschatological framework of thinking, which is that there have been convulsions of nature, and oftentimes our theological perspectives If we go back to 1908, the Tunguska event, the great explosion over Siberia, are you aware of that story?
00:54:19.000They believed that it was God descending to earth to punish them for their transgressions.
00:54:25.000Of course, the scientific view is it's The controversy now, was it an asteroid or a piece of a comet?
00:54:33.000I lean towards it being a piece of the comet.
00:54:35.000And the reason is because it happened on June 30th.
00:54:39.000And on June 30th, the Earth is going through an ancient meteor stream called the Taurid stream.
00:54:45.000Takes its name from Taurus the bull, because if you go out on the night of June 30th, or better yet, go out on Halloween.
00:54:55.000Because we crossed this stream twice, once in late June, early July, and the other late October, early November.
00:55:02.000Coincidentally, the fall-time peak of the Torrid Meteor Shower falls right on Halloween, and it falls on the All Souls, All Saints Day, and All Hallows' Eve.
00:55:12.000those three days actually are the peak of the torrid meteor shower, which is a very ancient meteor shower.
00:55:18.000It's very possible that, in the past, in fact, it's accepted by a lot of astronomers who study this, that in the past, the torrid meteor stream was exponentially more active than it is now in its younger state, and would have caused phenomena that people would have witnessed that would have looked
00:55:38.000supernatural, cosmic in a sense, and may have influenced people's beliefs, particularly along eschatological lines, you know, the end of the world kind of thing, you know, which is what the The holy city descends from God out of heaven.
00:55:59.000Now, one of the things, and I would assume that you would probably be very interested, but what I've done is like, for example, there's a very specific document.
00:56:41.000Once you get into it, you realize that what it's doing is it's guiding you into the realm of geometry.
00:56:47.000And then, of course, now you get into the Keplerian worldview that God geometrizes, that the creation of the universe is a work of geometry, and God is envisioned in that model as a great geometrician or a great architect who designed and created the universe.
00:57:04.000I find that intellectually satisfying.
00:57:06.000And one reason I couldn't come to any sense of organized religion too much was because I felt like too much was taken on faith, and it was ignoring the power of reason, which I believed to be an endowment from God.
00:57:21.000We were created in an image of God, and that includes our power to think, to reason.
00:57:28.000And so I wanted something in my spirituality that I could...
00:57:33.000That was compatible with my sense of reason.
00:57:36.000When I discovered that there were these deeper layers to religion, to specifically Christianity, well, that was very eye-opening for me and very inspiring.
00:57:48.000And that kind of, in a sense, allowed me to come to Christianity with a more scientific perspective and then realize there's deeper knowledge here.
00:57:59.000There's deeper knowledge here that has scientific vindication and validation.
00:58:06.000Because before that, it seemed to me, oh, people go to church, they quote the Bible, they have no concept of what's in it, they walk out of church, they go back to their lives.
00:58:18.000For me, if a spirituality is meaningful, it has to be something that's everyday.
00:58:23.000It's not something you go into an organized institution for a couple hours each week.
00:59:17.000And then I've got my dictionaries here of the Semitic languages.
00:59:21.000And so I go through, and I'm a novice at this, I admit.
00:59:25.000But I've seen enough by going back to the original languages that these sacred writings were composed in, that there are deeper layers of meaning that for me, and having a scientific worldview, appeals to me immensely.
00:59:41.000And without which, I would have some problems embracing this as a belief system.
00:59:48.000It's obvious that parochialism will always inhibit the efficacy of language in a way that geometry mathematics and music can access the absolute the eternal can exist outside of the kind of localism and restrictions that we're obviously discerning, but what I suppose is Randall that's troubling me somewhat even though I'm really sort of excited to listen to you is that when we
01:00:31.000certainly spiritual claims, perhaps more simply and more broadly.
01:00:37.000There are, it seems to me at least, dogmas within reason and rationalism that curiously and paradoxically lead to assumptions that one would never tolerate in a theological realm.
01:00:56.000That through reason and assumption we end up, I would say, observably and demonstrably
01:01:10.000I feel that through reason, through the sort of the great gifts of rationalism, the instruments of magnification, like we've arrived at a point where through translating and interpreting that which might be best yielded to faith, we have kind of colonised.
01:01:32.000See, I like what you said about teleology, as if there is some imperative, as if there is some forward motion.
01:01:36.000But in this kind of sort of intrepid nature of our kind, there's been this colonisation of the of of the gnome.
01:01:49.000And what I feel is that perhaps in faith.
01:01:53.000faith best understood through our ascent and the ascent of our belief, we enter into a state where we may receive a wisdom that's outside of the realm of that,
01:02:23.000Well, this is difficult to corroborate.