Stay Free - Russel Brand - The Real Story of Civilization—and Why They’ve Buried It | Randall Carlson - SF595

00:00:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand.

00:00:09.000 Action.

00:00:09.000 Russell Brand.

00:00:10.000 Controversial conspiracy theorist.

00:00:12.000 Trying to bring real journalism to the American people.

00:00:16.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:00:18.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:00:21.000 Randall Carlson's coming up on the show a little later.

00:00:24.000 Randall Carlson is an archaeologist, anthropologist, and for me, a great storyteller when it comes to deep time and deep history and understanding alternative perspectives.

00:00:42.000 What do we believe?

00:00:43.000 Why do we believe it?

00:00:44.000 What is our epistemology?

00:00:46.000 Where are the cracks and fissures and fractures in that epistemology?

00:00:50.000 Before we get into that, thank you Tim Cass for the raid.

00:00:53.000 Thank you Crowder and Mug Club for the raid.

00:00:55.000 We're going to be with you for the next hour.

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00:01:11.000 Before we get into this conversation with Randall Carlson, I wanted to have a look at this.

00:01:14.000 Look at Australia's peculiar reversal when it comes to COVID jabs and COVID vaccination recommendation.

00:01:21.000 There's been some great work being done at the HHS.

00:01:24.000 Bobby Kennedy has conducted a mass clear out of the CDC.

00:01:27.000 But as we continue to understand the pandemic period more...

00:01:35.000 Let's have a look at that and then I'll be back with Randall Carlson.

00:01:37.000 See you in a second.

00:01:38.000 Australia has admitted that when it comes to COVID vaccines, the harms outweigh the good for young people.

00:01:46.000 Took your time, didn't you?

00:01:49.000 If you've been watching Rumble during the pandemic period, you would have been well aware that you shouldn't take those vaccines, even at the time when it would have been relevant.

00:01:56.000 Nevertheless, it's worth looking at these stories now, because we can use it as a kind of litmus test when it comes to information we're currently receiving, and the likelihood that it can't be relied on.

00:02:05.000 Certainly you can't rely on the sources that they use, which include Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, nearly every single living president of the United States, lined up behind a syringe in order to tell you what to do.

00:02:17.000 Let's remind ourselves of that.

00:02:23.000 Our fellow Americans.

00:02:25.000 Right now the COVID-19 vaccines are available to millions of Americans.

00:02:29.000 And soon?

00:02:33.000 The science is clear.

00:02:34.000 These vaccines will protect you and those you love from this dangerous and deadly disease.

00:02:39.000 Anytime there is a cross-party alliance, it's worth examining what their motives might be.

00:02:44.000 They're playing with harmonious music as if this is a lovely opportunity for generalized unity, but in all likelihood, what you've got is the full force of the establishment coming together to ensure maximum efficiency.

00:02:55.000 They could save your life.

00:02:57.000 So we urge you to get vaccinated when it's available to you.

00:03:00.000 That's the first step to ending the pandemic and moving our country forward.

00:03:05.000 It's up to you.

00:03:06.000 So there you go.

00:03:07.000 That was consensus.

00:03:08.000 A consensus across the political spectrum and across the world that the vaccines were safe and effective and if you didn't take them you should be publicly shamed.

00:03:15.000 There may be a tremendous effort to get you to forget that.

00:03:18.000 But remember, there's video evidence.

00:03:20.000 This reporting is from John Fleetwood in Substack about Australia's reversal of its recommendations that young people should continue to take the jab.

00:03:28.000 In a quiet but historic reversal, the Australian government has officially updated its national immunisation guidance to state that healthy individuals under 18 years old should not receive COVID-19 injections, citing potential harms.

00:03:40.000 According to the government's own website, the COVID-19 vaccine is not recommended for healthy infants, children or adolescents who do not have medical conditions that increase their risk of severe illness.

00:03:51.000 The update cites the extremely low risk of severe illness in this age group, Here is a medicine.

00:04:07.000 It may be advantageous if you have particular respiratory or cardiological conditions.

00:04:11.000 If you are young and generally healthy, you don't need the vaccine.

00:04:14.000 Now, saying that a few years ago would have been tantamount to these days saying, I don't know, men shouldn't participate in women's sports, or you can't have a moral and ethical system of government if you don't believe in God because there are no absolute verifiable principles, just conjecture and consensus derived either from masses or an intellectual elite, neither of which you can trust.

00:04:36.000 So, what I want you to focus on during this video is not just what we know now, but what we don't know now but might yet assume.

00:04:50.000 An extraordinary yet recent period of massive radical change, authoritarianism, media deception and wealth transfer.

00:04:58.000 The recommendation published on the 3rd of June 2025 marks a stunning shift from earlier public health campaigns that heavily promoted COVID jabs for nearly all Australians, including children.

00:05:09.000 The admission follows mounting international concern over adverse events tied to COVID.

00:05:15.000 Now, another significant establishment voice was, of course, Anthony Fauci, and whilst he might be currently vilified and under investigation, whether that's a sort of a media investigation or an official governmental one, here he is in his pomp, in his prime with Barack Obama telling you what to do for your safety, for your health.

00:05:36.000 Thanks to the work of the Biden administration, Dr. Fauci, we already have...

00:05:50.000 Talk to somebody you trust, your family doctor, your pediatrician, a school nurse.

00:05:57.000 Get more information about it.

00:05:59.000 They'll tell you it's safe, it's effective.

00:06:01.000 Under what authority were they telling you that at the time?

00:06:04.000 Under what authority?

00:06:05.000 How could they possibly have known something that's demonstrably now untrue?

00:06:11.000 So what was their motivation in telling you that at the time?

00:06:15.000 This is this vaccine is tailored for kids.

00:06:19.000 And now we know the harms outweigh the benefits.

00:06:23.000 So what personal responsibility does Barack Obama and Anthony Fauci bear?

00:06:28.000 Certainly they'd have been happy to take the credit when it was record numbers of people getting vaccinations and we're returning to schools.

00:06:34.000 Think about all the celebrities that lined up.

00:06:36.000 Remember them.

00:06:37.000 Of course, if your theological purview includes forgiveness, then grant them forgiveness.

00:06:41.000 But forgiveness on the basis of repentance, that forgiveness is based on turning away from the old life.

00:06:47.000 Do you think that Barack Obama and Anthony Fauci have taken...

00:07:00.000 Then come on down and find a spot to get vaccinated.

00:07:03.000 You can get it for free just by going to vaccine.gov.

00:07:07.000 It'll tell you exactly where you can go to get vaccinated and, you know, make sure to do it, as you said, for your kids, your entire family, as well as for the community at large.

00:07:19.000 And I think we should probably tell Barack Obama and Anthony Fauci exactly where to go.

00:07:23.000 Let me know in the comments and chat exactly where that might be.

00:07:26.000 Now, the FDA have updated their guidance when it comes to Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

00:07:30.000 Have a look at this.

00:07:32.000 In Fox 5 Health News, the FDA now requires COVID vaccine makers to expand the warning about rare heart diseases and risks linked to the shots.

00:07:42.000 All right, joining us now with Dr. Porvie Parikh, Clinical Assistant Professor of Infectious Diseases and Immunology at NYU Langone.

00:07:47.000 She has done research with the Pfizer vaccine, by the way, worth noting.

00:07:50.000 All right, walk us through what these warning labels now say in the update that the FDA is requiring.

00:07:56.000 Right.

00:07:57.000 So, you know, this is a rare side effect of both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, myocarditis or pericarditis, which is inflammation in your heart.

00:08:06.000 And currently, that label is already there.

00:08:09.000 So Pfizer's vaccine says that the risk is highest in males age 12 to 17, and Moderna says that the risk is highest in males 18 to 24. So essentially what the FDA wants is kind of to combine the two and then, you know, label it for that risk to be from, you know, Age 12 all the way through 24. So it kind of encompasses both of their warning labels, if that makes sense.

00:08:33.000 Yeah.

00:08:33.000 I think give us some context in terms of how rare this might be.

00:08:37.000 What kind of risk are we talking about?

00:08:39.000 Right.

00:08:40.000 So in the grand scheme of things, you know, if you were to get infected with the actual COVID virus.

00:08:46.000 Your risk for myocarditis or pericarditis would be significantly more, and we see that significantly more, you know, as much as twice as likely, and some studies even go so far to say four or five times as likely.

00:08:58.000 So, again, this is extremely rare in a very specific age group, and there's also ways to mitigate that risk.

00:09:05.000 For example, by spacing out vaccine doses, sometimes they're less likely to get that inflammation.

00:09:10.000 But still, for the general public, the risk is extremely low, Excellent framing of the information.

00:09:20.000 Remember, the function of the media is to frame information in a manner that is convenient to the agenda of the powerful.

00:09:25.000 Let's continue with the article.

00:09:27.000 U.S. CDC data shows that 38,600 deaths have been linked to the COVID jab since 2020, but fewer than 1% of adverse events are even reported.

00:09:36.000 As a 2010 HHS-funded Harvard analysis suggests, the real number could exceed 3.8 million.

00:09:43.000 Do you remember some of the...

00:09:44.000 The hysterical and marginal prognoses that emerged during that period.

00:09:48.000 Unusual men like Steve Kirsch coming forth to tell you that there could be millions of people worldwide affected by this.

00:09:55.000 And remember thinking, this can't be true, this can't be right.

00:09:57.000 But have a look at these numbers, do a little bit of maths, and it seems likely, given the way that information is currently being released, that they were right.

00:10:03.000 Pfizer's own data showed over 1,200 negative health outcomes associated with their mRNA COVID shot.

00:10:10.000 Australia's updated guidance comes just days after US Health and Human Services What the COVID period revealed is that elites regard humanity as a kind of homogenous blob,

00:10:32.000 that there isn't time to be discerning about whether pregnant women or young children should take the vaccine and how that research could ever have been undertaken.

00:10:40.000 Pregnant women don't generally present themselves for clinical trials. 0.99

00:10:49.000 It's just common sense, as a matter of fact.

00:10:51.000 But beyond the common sense are deeper diagnosis of the relationship between the governed and the governing.

00:10:57.000 And what's revealed is they will tell you whatever they need to tell you in order to get you to behave how they want you to behave.

00:11:02.000 they will always tend towards maximisation of state authority and profitability for corporate and commercial interests.

00:11:09.000 That's without getting into any possible accomplishments.

00:11:15.000 That stuff is difficult to corroborate.

00:11:17.000 What's not difficult to corroborate is they lied at scale.

00:11:20.000 They're even now trying to roll back the deception and lies that covered the earth during that period of time.

00:11:25.000 Sending out a variety of people to create a sort of a state of bewilderment.

00:11:29.000 Oh, we didn't know this.

00:11:30.000 We could have known that.

00:11:31.000 Was Joe Biden really senile?

00:11:33.000 Will we ever know?

00:11:34.000 in order to create really just a climate of generalised confusion in which it's difficult to make the sort of diagnosis that were bleeding obvious to anyone switched on pretty near the beginning of this process.

00:11:43.000 The near-simultaneous reversals by two Western governments underscore a growing international retreat from universal COVID vaccination, at least for so-called low-risk populations.

00:11:54.000 The good news, at least in the United States of America, For example, these changes within the CDC.

00:12:04.000 RFK has removed all members of a CDC panel advising the US on vaccines.

00:12:09.000 Also, he said, Today we are taking a bold step in restoring public trust by totally reconstituting the Advisory Committee for Immunisation Practices.

00:12:17.000 A clean sweep is necessary to re-establish public confidence in vaccine science.

00:12:20.000 The entire world once looked to American health regulators for guidance, inspiration, scientific impartiality and unimpeachable integrity.

00:12:27.000 Public trust is eroded.

00:12:29.000 Only through radical transparency and gold standard science can we earn it.

00:12:34.000 Now, whilst Kash Patel's interview with Joe Rogan may have garnered a lot of scrutiny as a result of the apparent Bongino and Kash Patel reversal when it comes to the Epstein files, he had some interesting things to say about Fauci.

00:12:48.000 Have a look at this.

00:12:49.000 I mean, we just had a great breakthrough this week on Fauci.

00:12:54.000 So, Senator Rand Paul, Senator Kennedy, and I hate naming names because I always forget people, are doing a great job with us on COVID origins.

00:13:02.000 And we've got multiple investigations open on that.

00:13:07.000 But they had always been looking for Fauci's original phone, or not original, but phones and devices he used while he was Fauci back in Trump one during COVID.

00:13:20.000 And nobody had found it.

00:13:22.000 Till two days ago.

00:13:25.000 Really?

00:13:25.000 Yeah.

00:13:26.000 Now look, your audience and everybody listening to it should jump to the conclusion, everything's in there.

00:13:32.000 We'll look at it, we'll pull it, we'll rip it as we say, and maybe it's deleted, maybe it's not.

00:13:37.000 But at least we found it, and at least now we can tell the American people we've been looking, because it is of public importance to figure out, did that guy lie?

00:13:45.000 The challenge is this.

00:13:46.000 Even if you're an anti-establishment political figure, when you become part of the establishment, then where does your anti-establishmentism go then?

00:13:54.000 The function of the system, I suppose, is ultimately its own sustenance.

00:13:58.000 So what we're observing unfolding now is a world recognizing that they have to acknowledge there was a lot of deception and ineptitude during the pandemic period.

00:14:06.000 Potentially, the entire thing in extremis might be regarded as a plan to legitimize mass authoritarianism and potentially even some of the more peripheral theories around population control.

00:14:17.000 But now, various systems of power have to conduct the contradictory task of revealing information that undermines their legitimacy while holding on to their authority.

00:14:28.000 This is going to be a complicated...

00:14:35.000 There will be revelations, but not to the detriment of the system itself.

00:14:40.000 Ultimately, I suppose what we have to conclude is that we must remain personally discerning, never trust authority, and I would suggest investigate together the potential for parallel economies, ecologies, and political systems.

00:14:53.000 But that's just what I think.

00:14:54.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.

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00:16:56.000 Randall Carlson, thank you so much for joining us today. 0.99

00:16:59.000 Thanks for having me, Russell.

00:17:00.000 I'm sure it's going to be fun.

00:17:02.000 The reason I've been so excited to speak with you is because we live in this sort of blizzard of perpetual present, this kind of ongoing amnesia, where when you're making content, as I do, that's somewhat based on current affairs, what our current affairs on Thursday by Friday seem irrelevant, even if it seems sort of seismic in a pocal for about half an hour, there's sort of endless, relentless...

00:17:34.000 And I know from watching your content that you sort of are a student of, expert on, and educator on deep time.

00:17:44.000 and I, there's a kind of archetypal topography that I need to understand at depth.

00:17:50.000 It feels like we're in a unique and...

00:17:58.000 I wonder, Randall, if there are times when you're looking at your feed, if you do such things, when you're looking at this sort of bewildering present and see patterns, archetypes, a kind of sublime geometry that could guide us.

00:18:18.000 Yes, I kind of feel like we're poised on an inflection point of history right now because so many things, trends that have been evolving for years.

00:18:35.000 Right.

00:18:35.000 Holocene is the geological epoch in which we find ourselves right now.

00:18:39.000 It followed upon the Pleistocene, which was about two and a half million years.

00:18:44.000 What characterized the Pleistocene from the previous epoch was there was a major shift in the global climate regime.

00:18:51.000 And one of the manifestations of that shift was this oscillation between glacial age and interglacial age.

00:19:03.000 We're now in an interglacial age that has lasted about 11,600 years, according to the latest data, which is the longest we see any period of interglacial climatic regime over the past roughly quarter million years,

00:19:21.000 which I find interesting, because if you look at all of the patterns of the evolution of civilization, What we find is civilizations arise, at least our modern incarnation of civilization arises in that interval of relatively stable climate, which is in very marked contrast to what has preceded us.

00:19:44.000 So we've got Homo sapiens sapiens, us, the last man surviving, the last man standing, if you will, of what, 14 different species of hominids?

00:19:57.000 That have also inhabited this planet, many of them alongside us.

00:20:02.000 They're all gone.

00:20:03.000 We're the last ones.

00:20:04.000 We're the last hominids. 1.00

00:20:06.000 We've built our civilization within this window.

00:20:09.000 We see, if we go back between 8,000 and 10,000 years ago, we see the shift from nomadic to sedentary lifestyles, the onset of agriculture, the dispersion of languages, the domestication of animals, the first appearance of urban complexes.

00:20:28.000 So generally, history and historians have looked at this as the beginning of the awkward arc of history, preceded by millennia of history, Essentially, no evolution of civilization at all.

00:20:42.000 A savage existence, hunter-gatherers. 0.97

00:20:46.000 But there may be a different model now.

00:20:49.000 The model now may be that, and there's evidence to support this, that the model now suggests that all of these things that we've seen developing through the Holocene is actually more realistically portrayed as a reboot or a reset.

00:21:07.000 And I think we're realizing that there's a lot deeper, more complex story of our species on this planet than had previously been assumed by academia, scholars, scientists, and so on.

00:21:22.000 So we're in this point now where we have these technological capabilities at our disposal.

00:21:29.000 And it's everything, really it began in the 20th century with the advent of aerial photography.

00:21:36.000 Suddenly we had this broadened perspective of this world that we live in.

00:21:41.000 And we started seeing things that no one could see previous to that because we're too small, too close.

00:21:49.000 Whereas once you get a higher perspective, you can begin to see these other things.

00:21:53.000 So then that's evolved.

00:21:54.000 Then, of course, now we have satellite surveys.

00:21:57.000 We have digital elevation models.

00:22:00.000 We have ground-penetrating radar.

00:22:01.000 We have LIDAR.

00:22:03.000 What is happening is it's revealing to us a story that's engraved, if you want to use that term, engraved into the literal surface of the planet.

00:22:14.000 It's been sitting there for thousands of years, undetected, unseen, because we're too small and it's too grand.

00:22:23.000 Now we are in a position where we can begin to see the big picture.

00:22:26.000 And what it's disclosing to us is vastly different.

00:22:31.000 Pageant of events than we had previously assumed.

00:22:34.000 And we have to now be open to the possibility that there may have been other civilizations.

00:22:41.000 We know there have been civilizations.

00:22:43.000 We know that the Bronze Age civilizations collapsed. 0.78

00:22:45.000 We know that there were, in fact, two phases.

00:22:49.000 Early Bronze Age, late Bronze Age, right?

00:22:52.000 But there may have been civilizations that preceded the Holocene.

00:22:57.000 And this is a very contentious idea.

00:23:00.000 There may have been civilizations.

00:23:01.000 In fact, I go so far as to say there probably was civilizations that have been completely lost to history.

00:23:07.000 And the reason they've been lost to history, again, is because of these intervals of concentrated change within the continuum of global change.

00:23:19.000 We've been in a position now where we've got going 10,000 years of relatively stable climate.

00:23:24.000 And now we're able to build...

00:23:29.000 And look how far we've come just in the last three to four hundred years since the scientific revolution.

00:23:35.000 How far we've come in the last century.

00:23:37.000 I was born mid-century, 1951.

00:23:40.000 No computers, right?

00:23:42.000 No presence in space at all.

00:23:45.000 None at all.

00:23:45.000 When my grandfather was born in the 1890s, cars were just being invented.

00:23:50.000 You know, we had...

00:23:56.000 In the late 1800s compared to the 20th century, and how far we've come in simply 100 years.

00:24:03.000 Now, when you think about it in that context, is it not possible that in the duration of hundreds, hundreds of millennia that we modern humans have been occupying this planet, we could have had 300 years, 500 years, where we created something resembling civilization?

00:24:27.000 Certainly possible.

00:24:28.000 We have to be open to that possibility.

00:24:30.000 And there are traditions, of course, from all over the world, and I'm sure you're familiar with some of these traditions, there are traditions from all over the world that suggest there was a former order of existence.

00:24:42.000 And it doesn't matter really what you call it, whether it's Atlantis or Hyperborea or Shangri-La or any of the dozens of terms that have come down to us about this universal tradition of there being an earlier order.

00:24:56.000 Of the ages, where there was a different, if you will, order of civilization.

00:25:01.000 But what we know now, that we didn't know even 25 years to 50 years ago, a generation or two ago, is what happens during these interruptions of the continuum, and how drastically, dramatically, and even violently sometimes the order of nature is upended, and then in the aftermath there's a completely different order of nature.

00:25:25.000 And the obvious example of that is the transition out of the Ice Age, which used to be when I was learning about the Ice Age as a kid in the 50s and 60s, the belief was that the Ice Age was something that was tens of thousands of years to form, tens of thousands of years to get out of, into our present environment.

00:25:48.000 With the advent of radiocarbon dating and optically stimulated luminescence and all of these new dating technologies, we know now that it's happened way, way quicker than anybody had imagined.

00:26:00.000 That creates a problem.

00:26:02.000 The problem is, in order to melt the amount of glacial ice that was overlaid on the continents back, let's say, 12,000 to 20,000 years ago, that takes energy.

00:26:17.000 It takes a lot of energy.

00:26:19.000 The estimates are maybe 6 million cubic miles of ice.

00:26:23.000 That's over North America and over Northwestern Europe.

00:26:26.000 As a result of that ice forming, sea levels dropped 400 feet.

00:26:33.000 What happens when sea levels drop?

00:26:35.000 Coastlines migrate.

00:26:36.000 In some cases, tens of miles, 50 or even 100 miles because of the shallow continental shelves, right?

00:26:46.000 Six million cubic miles of ice.

00:26:48.000 You've got 400-foot lowered sea level.

00:26:51.000 Oops, there's a...

00:26:57.000 It looked like an epiphany from here, Randall.

00:26:59.000 look like sort of luminescent beings, celestial entities visiting you even now.

00:27:08.000 I'm sitting here at...

00:27:12.000 I can hear you, but in a sense, it's like one of those glacial moments is occurring before our eyes.

00:27:17.000 There is a major storm blowing over right now.

00:27:24.000 The thunder is rumbling.

00:27:27.000 My brother called about 20 minutes ago.

00:27:29.000 He was on the north side of town to warn me that there was a front moving in.

00:27:36.000 So that's what's going on.

00:27:37.000 My power has gone off and on about three times sitting here.

00:27:41.000 And now it's saying I have no signal. 0.99

00:27:43.000 Damn it. 0.99

00:27:44.000 Okay. 0.99

00:27:45.000 Well, Randall, you've retreated into a vortex, but I can hear you very clearly, and as we resume our connection, I'll just, as best as I can, render what I've understood so far.

00:27:57.000 Civilizations form in stable periods.

00:28:01.000 What can be measured and registered as our ability to read our environment increases suggests that we've been living in a highly reduced and perhaps even deliberately reductive appraisal of anthropological history, perhaps deliberately rendering civilization according to the lens that we currently have, due to a kind of shared myopia, an inability to even discern what might have once been...

00:28:28.000 masked by six million cubic feet of ice, a world unrecognisable to the one that we inhabit now.

00:28:36.000 One of the questions that emerged during that beautiful monologue for me, Randall, is how likely it is that there, within our epistemology, that there are pockets of esotericism that are not shared because were we to gain access to the,

00:29:02.000 it might make us less likely to submit to the tyrants of the present, as well as seeing a kind of fraternity amongst us across time that would belittle and even maybe negate the sort of senseless tribalism that defines our species.

00:29:19.000 Do you think that there are kind of concealed hermeneutics that would change the way that we see reality?

00:29:30.000 I feel that inflection point.

00:29:32.000 I feel like we're on the precipice of some awakening, like on the edge of sneeze or the edge of orgasm.

00:29:39.000 Like there's something waiting to be born, something waiting to puncture and pierce from outside of time.

00:29:47.000 What are the suggestions that there could be some difficult to corroborate but nevertheless puncture?

00:29:57.000 Well, I think there's multiple traditions about, you know, esoteric knowledge being handed down through various venues.

00:30:07.000 and I think that's a part of it because there are ages of oppression and then there are ages of enlightenment during the ages of oppression sometimes the I use the analogy of a subterranean river, a great river that's flowing underground.

00:30:27.000 And from time to time, that river will breach the surface and flow over the surface.

00:30:31.000 And then it'll find some opening and it goes back underground.

00:30:35.000 And I think there is a river, a great river, a tradition of knowledge that has been handed down.

00:30:40.000 I think that the evidence for that is pretty overwhelming.

00:30:44.000 And there are various orders and groups that I think have been misinterpreted and had projections of what their purpose in existence was.

00:30:53.000 And what that has done is it's, we're in one of those times now where I think we can look at some of those traditions and reevaluate what their role has been in our own history.

00:31:05.000 I'll cite probably one of the more well-known beliefs.

00:31:14.000 And there's a lot of misinformation about Freemasons going around the internet now.

00:31:21.000 And really, when you look into it, it's just, you know, they've got two things that they do primarily.

00:31:26.000 Charitable work, and they're the custodians of a vast body of symbolism.

00:31:32.000 That body of symbolism tells a very important story, and from my reading of that symbolism, it's telling us some of the same, it's a parallel story to the thing I'm just describing, that there is this long-term view of history, that there are cycles of change, and this is an important concept.

00:31:51.000 Are these episodes of change random, or are they cyclical?

00:31:56.000 Is there a periodicity to them that could make them somewhat predictable?

00:32:00.000 The answer, I think, is most definitely yes, there is a cyclicity to them.

00:32:06.000 Not precise like to today, like you can say, oh, on January 12th, such a year, the world's going to end.

00:32:12.000 But certainly within an epoch, if you want to put it that way.

00:32:16.000 And I would define an epoch, not in a geological sense, but a span of time of perhaps a millennia or two.

00:32:24.000 And within that window, it's likely that...

00:32:33.000 And when we look back, I've done a lot of work on this, trying to correlate the great upheavals, natural upheavals in Earth history and correlate those with larger astronomical cycles.

00:32:44.000 And what it seems is that there's two modes of change that are juxtaposed on one another.

00:32:53.000 And these modes of change...

00:33:00.000 But the random change is juxtaposed on a more periodic change.

00:33:04.000 And once you know how to kind of tease them apart, you can begin to see, okay, there's a regularity here.

00:33:11.000 And over here, there seems to be a randomness.

00:33:13.000 And if we had my visual, I would pull up and show you examples, which is really disappointing here.

00:33:19.000 Do you think we can get our visual back?

00:33:21.000 Should we try and reboot it, Randall?

00:33:24.000 I think it would be worth a try.

00:33:26.000 Let's have a go.

00:33:28.000 Okay, I'm gonna shut down and reboot.

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00:34:55.000 It's so much nicer being able to see you.

00:34:59.000 I know.

00:35:01.000 When you were just assigned, that was, I don't know, I think it lost something.

00:35:06.000 I didn't realize that there was a strong aesthetic component to your work, but it turns out there is.

00:35:12.000 Yeah, you know, that's one of my strong traits.

00:35:14.000 As I tell people, you know, I'm known far and wide for my luscious hair.

00:35:19.000 And that's always part of creating the proper, Maybe you should do a calendar for charity, like sort of Randall Carlson.

00:35:33.000 Springtime, Randall, in Christmas.

00:35:36.000 Summertime, with you as a sort of green man.

00:35:40.000 Various sort of images of you.

00:35:42.000 I wouldn't have thought until you weren't there and I couldn't look at you.

00:35:45.000 I didn't realise how important looking at you was.

00:35:47.000 One of the main things I was getting from what you were talking about is like these custodians of deep truths, hieroglyphs and important symbols and sigils.

00:35:57.000 And I suppose what I'm interested in is how it relates to power.

00:36:02.000 How esotericism and power converge.

00:36:04.000 How knowledge and concealed knowledge is being observed.

00:36:08.000 I've become Christian recently.

00:36:10.000 I'm reading a lot of scripture.

00:36:12.000 I'm fascinated by how the kind of talk, how the discussions of the nature of evil in scripture aligns with more contemporary talk of occultism and satanic ritual online.

00:36:26.000 And I wonder in your rather more academic and considered appraisal, there is if you see a kind of a continuum or parallels when it comes to these civilized, You know, particularly when you're hearing these days about child sacrifice.

00:36:53.000 You know, Randall, well, it gets kind of salacious and stuff.

00:36:55.000 I wonder where in your work those areas, if those areas converge.

00:37:02.000 Wow, okay, that's a handful, but...

00:37:21.000 because if they did, you wouldn't be able to control the narrative, which I think that's a huge part of the strategy at present, is we want to control what people think.

00:37:31.000 Because if you look at reality through a certain lens, that lens will filter things out.

00:37:40.000 And I think our whole education system is oriented around indoctrinating us into a worldview.

00:37:46.000 And if that worldview begins to crack or fracture along any fault line, it could spell the end of the whole world.

00:37:57.000 the whole model that has been created and inculcated literally, you know, for most of the 20th century now, since the government began to control education, it certainly has accelerated in the last few decades, particularly where, you know, as I look at education, I'm seeing people turning out that no way would have even graduated.

00:38:21.000 You know, when I was, you know, And it's degenerated since then, in my opinion.

00:38:30.000 And the whole issue of the theological questions.

00:38:37.000 I'm a man of the Spirit.

00:38:39.000 I believe that there is a greater intelligence, that it is not a meaningless creation, that it's just a random happening.

00:38:50.000 However, when I get into that realm, you know, I'm so overwhelmed by the majesty and power and extent of creation, as I understand it, that I'm almost...

00:39:11.000 So I kind of like have to definitely rein it in to the point where, okay, I got to function on a day-to-day basis.

00:39:18.000 And, you know, I've been through a lot of various...

00:39:28.000 Even going back to my teenage years, I saw things that instantly transformed me over one weekend from basically being a budding juvenile delinquent to being on a quest for God.

00:39:42.000 Over those years, I've explored, I've studied with Brahmin priests, I've studied with Himalayan swamis, with whirling dervishes, I've read extensively in the world's spiritual literature, I've gone, you know, explored deeply into Eastern philosophy, then kind of circled back to looking at the Western spiritual traditions.

00:40:02.000 I have found a tremendous font of knowledge and wisdom and insight in Christianity.

00:40:12.000 Leaning towards early Christianity than I am the later organized version of it.

00:40:19.000 I feel like if you get too much into the outer parameters of it, you might miss the inner core, the inner tradition.

00:40:30.000 I don't look at Christianity in isolation from the rest of the world's great traditions.

00:40:36.000 I believe God works through many venues.

00:40:41.000 To reveal himself, herself, however you want to characterize.

00:40:44.000 I think God is beyond those kind of characterizations.

00:40:48.000 However, I do think that Christianity is a very special dispensation relevant to our own times.

00:40:55.000 And from my studies, which are limited compared to some, but my studies would suggest that wisdom of the ages was basically embedded in Codified in, updated in the modern advent of Christianity.

00:41:15.000 I find these archetypes that are playing out through the whole Christian tradition, prevalent in many other traditions that go back thousands of years before Christianity.

00:41:30.000 But I see Christianity as being sort of an update. 0.92

00:41:36.000 if you will, that was suitable for the times of 2,000 years ago.

00:41:39.000 And now it could be updated again, given what we now know about our position on the planet, in the solar system, in the universe, and so on.

00:41:50.000 So from my standpoint, I think that there is a deep roots into the ancient mystery tradition that for me was necessary to accept Christianity as being a unique personality

00:42:09.000 And so one of the things that really that I discovered, and you probably know this term gematria or gematria, which is that, you know, in the Semitic languages, and the Old Testament was written in Hebrew and the New Testament was written in Greek, as you know.

00:42:26.000 So both of those languages preceded the advent of the Hindu-Arabic numeral system.

00:42:31.000 So both languages...

00:42:42.000 So one of the things I discovered, and this goes back to the 70s and the 80s when I was researching various traditions, was that when you look at the literal stories of the Bible, that underlying those, I think there's a whole doctrine of scientific knowledge.

00:43:08.000 There's epistemological, ontological, eschatological.

00:43:12.000 It's all there in great detail.

00:43:14.000 And I don't think we would have a chance to get into that today because I'm not prepared to do it.

00:43:20.000 But if you want to have a follow-up conversation, I'd love to show you some of the extraordinary scientific knowledge that I think is encoded in the original languages of Scripture.

00:43:32.000 I do want that.

00:43:33.000 Of course I want that.

00:43:35.000 Of course, anything that's translative or interpretive when it comes to Scripture potentially can become quite controversial.

00:43:44.000 And as a recent Christian, one of the aspects of it that seems significant to me is this kind of willing self-subjugation, self-sacrifice, and this new position of obedience, which when I was in a previous personal incarnation of Spirit,

00:44:02.000 Spiritual exploration allowed me to stay at the very centre of a variety of beliefs, which did include psychedelic experimentation and some personal peripatetic learning.

00:44:18.000 What's been interesting since coming to Christ is there's a few things that probably one of the few people in the world I could probably launch at in the unbridled manner that I'm about to.

00:44:30.000 When in the protean, the undifferentiated super state, one might encounter all sorts of phenomena, demonic and difficult to discern, difficult to appreciate and understand and abide amongst.

00:44:46.000 I felt when dealing with the shamanic that I was attempting to handle the living flow.

00:44:52.000 You referred earlier in our conversation to a subterranean river, the living flow, the living water.

00:45:00.000 The two images that presented themselves to me recently in Costa Rica, whilst I was not under any psychedelic influence at all, was the image of the bridge and the image of the cross or crucifix.

00:45:13.000 Crucifix.

00:45:14.000 I have teachers that are druidic and shamanic and are able to deal with the undifferentiated and handle it, hold it, abide within it.

00:45:22.000 I don't appear to have that facility.

00:45:25.000 I need to be held to account on the crucifix and live in the frequency of the covenant of the man-god, fully man, augur, harbinger, and bringer of these new frequencies by coming into flesh, coming into carnation, through the blood entering.

00:45:42.000 into the spirit, this sort of elemental design and this elemental, what do I want to say, sort of new rubric established through the sacrifice in the coming together.

00:45:53.000 I personally, close to the edge of insanity.

00:46:13.000 I just want to give one illustrative example of what I'm trying to describe because I know I'm saying, like, I'm using a lot of language, I'm bandying about a lot of terms here, but sometimes I just try to create a silhouette.

00:46:25.000 I can.

00:46:26.000 A polysyllabic silhouette, Randall, that I know you'll be able to discern the shape emerging magnetically out from the molecules.

00:46:34.000 Just recently I heard that in these new intravenous DMT experimentations, they're putting their subjects under MRI, and some of the entities that are being encountered in these DMT IV states are asking, what's going on with the MRI?

00:46:48.000 What's going on with the scanning?

00:46:50.000 Who's doing that scanning?

00:46:52.000 When I heard this, I thought about the numerous times I've encountered mentally ill people who say things along the line.

00:46:59.000 Indeed, it's a cultural cliche.

00:47:00.000 Where else do we get the expression aluminum foil hat or in my language, tin foil hat?

00:47:05.000 Mentally ill people often believe that their thoughts are being intercepted, interceded and observed by entities, often in alignment with the government.

00:47:13.000 It occurred to me just recently when thinking about MKUltra and the various experiments that took place with psychedelics and experimentation on mentally ill people, that potentially there's a clandestine and secondary history, even with recent events such as this.

00:47:29.000 That potentially the reason that mentally ill people who glitch and are outside of the main circuitry sense that there may be entities observing them is because there are, that potentially government collusion with entities, secondary entities and secondary beings and phenomena might include the establishment of connections, psychic connections and psychic communes that people that are not bound by the sort of conventional

00:47:58.000 perspective, who haven't been cloistered and narrativised by the mainstream and by the dominant frequency, sense and in Isn't part of madness the sense that on the edge of your understanding is another world?

00:48:13.000 Doesn't Christ continually talk about daemons, entities, beings, that which can't be understood?

00:48:19.000 Aren't we continually instructed to seek first the kingdom of God, to embrace the ever-present heaven, the atemporal, aspatial, a-manifest?

00:48:29.000 Reality that's accessible to us through our consciousness that's somehow disrupted, disturbed and diluted by the senses, not enhanced, although I suppose you could make a case for the glory of nature can bring us closer to the supernatural.

00:48:41.000 I suppose that's a sort of a pagan claim, but certainly not one without legitimacy.

00:48:46.000 So what I suppose I'm saying is that somehow in Christ I felt the collapse from the super state of potentiality into something particular, the cross.

00:48:56.000 I need the horizontal and the vertical.

00:48:58.000 I need the man-god to come and to die to instantiate a new frequency that I can live within, because I don't do well in the chaos.

00:49:07.000 That's not to say that some people can't, but my absolute faith in Christ has come about because in this surrender, something becomes available to me that was not previously available somehow.

00:49:19.000 It's not dampened my curiosity about...

00:49:25.000 That's the kind of ethereal esotericism and the sort of citadels as yet unvisited that may yet be real.

00:49:35.000 But it's just I'm...

00:49:45.000 I could end up adrift in the Limitless quite easily, as that last announcement potentially demonstrated.

00:49:54.000 Well, wow.

00:49:56.000 lot to respond to there you know I guess I came from a I don't know what your growing up background was.

00:50:08.000 We had property on a lake.

00:50:12.000 Some of my early memories being seven years old, I'm sitting on a fallen down tree over the lake catching fish.

00:50:20.000 So I felt like I grew up around farms.

00:50:24.000 My dad wasn't a farmer.

00:50:25.000 He was a house builder.

00:50:27.000 I grew up around farms, spent all my time on farms.

00:50:30.000 I was very close to that, you know, the food cycle, the agricultural cycle.

00:50:36.000 That was my whole youth, essentially.

00:50:38.000 And so I felt like it gave me kind of a grounding into things.

00:50:44.000 I mean, I have very early memories being six, seven years old, being out with my dad.

00:50:49.000 You know, learning to identify Orion, learning to identify the Big Dipper, the North Star, learning how to navigate.

00:50:57.000 You know, if you get lost and you're at night, you can always find the North. 0.51

00:51:01.000 So, I mean, I knew that stuff at seven, eight years old, rural Minnesota.

00:51:06.000 And I feel like...

00:51:24.000 if you will.

00:51:25.000 By becoming disconnected from nature, we've sort of become disconnected from the creator.

00:51:32.000 So we have the creator, we have creation, which is, to me, God's handiwork, which is filled with insights and lessons and knowledge and wisdom that we're losing because we've become an urbanized civilization.

00:51:48.000 And so many young people now that I know could not have never, I know people who are of college age, in their 20s, who've never seen the Milky Way galaxy, who've never stood out there in a rural area, And that's missing.

00:52:09.000 I think that that's going to be detrimental to our species if we become disconnected from the creation.

00:52:17.000 Because for me, I look at the creation and it's like a great manuscript.

00:52:22.000 Which is talking to us, which is teaching us.

00:52:24.000 And it's a direct message from the higher power, the higher creative power, that created this incredible confluence of things that makes it possible for you and I to sit here having this conversation.

00:52:41.000 If we shift the parameters, even in the slightest, all this goes away.

00:52:46.000 I mean, the whole...

00:52:53.000 And you might say that my roots of spirituality became teleological at some point in the 70s where I began to think that the creator has hidden his wisdom in the creation that we are a part of.

00:53:09.000 And so for me, it's like reading the sacred writings of old, but also then reading.

00:53:23.000 And this is what led me essentially, I guess, into this great eschatological framework of thinking, which is that there have been convulsions of nature, and oftentimes our theological perspectives If we go back to 1908, the Tunguska event, the great explosion over Siberia, are you aware of that story?

00:53:52.000 No.

00:53:53.000 1908, probably a piece of a comet flew in over Tunguska, Siberia, and it exploded with the force of a 15 megaton.

00:54:04.000 Hydrogen bomb.

00:54:06.000 It completely flattened over 800 square miles of old-growth Tiaga Forest.

00:54:11.000 And the people who witnessed that, it launched a whole new religion.

00:54:17.000 out of that event.

00:54:19.000 They believed that it was God descending to earth to punish them for their transgressions.

00:54:25.000 Of course, the scientific view is it's The controversy now, was it an asteroid or a piece of a comet?

00:54:33.000 I lean towards it being a piece of the comet.

00:54:35.000 And the reason is because it happened on June 30th.

00:54:39.000 And on June 30th, the Earth is going through an ancient meteor stream called the Taurid stream.

00:54:45.000 Takes its name from Taurus the bull, because if you go out on the night of June 30th, or better yet, go out on Halloween.

00:54:55.000 Because we crossed this stream twice, once in late June, early July, and the other late October, early November.

00:55:02.000 Coincidentally, the fall-time peak of the Torrid Meteor Shower falls right on Halloween, and it falls on the All Souls, All Saints Day, and All Hallows' Eve.

00:55:12.000 those three days actually are the peak of the torrid meteor shower, which is a very ancient meteor shower.

00:55:18.000 It's very possible that, in the past, in fact, it's accepted by a lot of astronomers who study this, that in the past, the torrid meteor stream was exponentially more active than it is now in its younger state, and would have caused phenomena that people would have witnessed that would have looked

00:55:38.000 supernatural, cosmic in a sense, and may have influenced people's beliefs, particularly along eschatological lines, you know, the end of the world kind of thing, you know, which is what the The holy city descends from God out of heaven.

00:55:59.000 Now, one of the things, and I would assume that you would probably be very interested, but what I've done is like, for example, there's a very specific document.

00:56:14.000 What is the Holy City?

00:56:15.000 Well, we don't know specifically, but it's described essentially as a cube.

00:56:20.000 The city lieth four square, and the length, the height, and the breadth of it are equal.

00:56:24.000 12,000 furlongs.

00:56:26.000 Well, right there, it gives you enough information that you can kind of, in a way, kind of reverse engineer the model.

00:56:33.000 So that's what I've attempted to do with limited success.

00:56:37.000 But there's definitely...

00:56:41.000 Once you get into it, you realize that what it's doing is it's guiding you into the realm of geometry.

00:56:47.000 And then, of course, now you get into the Keplerian worldview that God geometrizes, that the creation of the universe is a work of geometry, and God is envisioned in that model as a great geometrician or a great architect who designed and created the universe.

00:57:04.000 I find that intellectually satisfying.

00:57:06.000 And one reason I couldn't come to any sense of organized religion too much was because I felt like too much was taken on faith, and it was ignoring the power of reason, which I believed to be an endowment from God.

00:57:21.000 We were created in an image of God, and that includes our power to think, to reason.

00:57:28.000 And so I wanted something in my spirituality that I could...

00:57:33.000 That was compatible with my sense of reason.

00:57:36.000 When I discovered that there were these deeper layers to religion, to specifically Christianity, well, that was very eye-opening for me and very inspiring.

00:57:48.000 And that kind of, in a sense, allowed me to come to Christianity with a more scientific perspective and then realize there's deeper knowledge here.

00:57:59.000 There's deeper knowledge here that has scientific vindication and validation.

00:58:04.000 And that led me into it.

00:58:06.000 Because before that, it seemed to me, oh, people go to church, they quote the Bible, they have no concept of what's in it, they walk out of church, they go back to their lives.

00:58:18.000 For me, if a spirituality is meaningful, it has to be something that's everyday.

00:58:23.000 It's not something you go into an organized institution for a couple hours each week.

00:58:35.000 I'm not condemning that.

00:58:37.000 I'm just saying that that in itself, to me, is not enough.

00:58:41.000 You know, to me, yes, we've got the holy books.

00:58:44.000 You know, I've got right next to me here, I've got, let me show you this, right next to me, keep this next to me.

00:58:49.000 I don't know if you can see this.

00:58:53.000 That's the interlinear Hebrew-English Old Testament.

00:58:56.000 I've also got the Hebrew, the interlinear Greek New Testament.

00:59:01.000 So what I do is I...

00:59:04.000 It means, I'll show you, it means that what you've got here is you've got here the Hebrew on one line and the English next to it.

00:59:14.000 See that?

00:59:16.000 Yes.

00:59:17.000 And then I've got my dictionaries here of the Semitic languages.

00:59:21.000 And so I go through, and I'm a novice at this, I admit.

00:59:25.000 But I've seen enough by going back to the original languages that these sacred writings were composed in, that there are deeper layers of meaning that for me, and having a scientific worldview, appeals to me immensely.

00:59:41.000 And without which, I would have some problems embracing this as a belief system.

00:59:48.000 It's obvious that parochialism will always inhibit the efficacy of language in a way that geometry mathematics and music can access the absolute the eternal can exist outside of the kind of localism and restrictions that we're obviously discerning, but what I suppose is Randall that's troubling me somewhat even though I'm really sort of excited to listen to you is that when we

01:00:31.000 certainly spiritual claims, perhaps more simply and more broadly.

01:00:37.000 There are, it seems to me at least, dogmas within reason and rationalism that curiously and paradoxically lead to assumptions that one would never tolerate in a theological realm.

01:00:56.000 That through reason and assumption we end up, I would say, observably and demonstrably

01:01:10.000 I feel that through reason, through the sort of the great gifts of rationalism, the instruments of magnification, like we've arrived at a point where through translating and interpreting that which might be best yielded to faith, we have kind of colonised.

01:01:32.000 See, I like what you said about teleology, as if there is some imperative, as if there is some forward motion.

01:01:36.000 But in this kind of sort of intrepid nature of our kind, there's been this colonisation of the of of the gnome.

01:01:49.000 And what I feel is that perhaps in faith.

01:01:53.000 faith best understood through our ascent and the ascent of our belief, we enter into a state where we may receive a wisdom that's outside of the realm of that,

01:02:23.000 Well, this is difficult to corroborate.

01:02:26.000 Let's discard it.

01:02:27.000 This we can verify.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - June 11, 2025

The Real Story of Civilization—and Why They’ve Buried It | Randall Carlson - SF595

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