Joe Biden's State of the Union speech may not have addressed the truth of America, but Satish Kumar thinks it did, and he's here to tell us why. Plus, we've got a quiz to keep you warm in the winter months, and an apology from Joe Biden for the way he conducts his trivia quizzes. Thanks to our sponsor, Pfizer. In this video, you're going to see the future, and in this video you'll get to see The Awakening Wonders. The full show is available only on Rumble on the Wild West, wherever you're watching the show now. Thanks for joining us whereverver you re watching us now. The Wild West is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. New episodes drop every Tuesday, only on Native Creative. Native Creative is a podcast produced in partnership with Native Creative, and produced by Native Creative Productions. This episode was produced and edited by Rishi Sethi. Additional audio mixing and mastering by Matthew Boll. Our theme song is by Ian Dorsch and our ad music is by Haley Shaw. We'd like to learn more about you, the listeners, so please take a few minutes to leave us a rating and review our podcast by rating and reviewing our podcast on Apple Podcasts, and we'll be looking out for your feedback in the next episode. Thank you! If you like what you hear, please tell us what you think about it in the comments and what you're listening to us on social media! or share it with a friend about it on the wild west podcast and/tweet us about it! and/or share it on your thoughts on the podcast! if you're looking for more like this episode on Insta- or share us on your favourite podcasting platform, we'll get a shoutout! Timestamps: 5 stars and a review on the episode 7 stars is a review of the podcast? 8 stars is much more! 9 stars is more than enough! 10 stars is enough, right? 11 stars? 12 stars is appreciated! 13 stars is all you can do, please spread the word about this episode? 14 stars are much more than that? 15 stars is not enough? 16 stars is too much? 17 stars are enough, can I have it? 19 stars are a star rating? 21 stars are more than just a star?
00:01:10.000In this video, you're going to see the future.
00:01:12.000In this video, you're going to see the future.
00:01:23.000You Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining us.
00:01:25.000Wherever you're watching us now, the full show is available only on Rumble.
00:01:29.000That means, Gareth, producer of the show, we've got to get as much into this first 10 minutes before community guidelines kick in, before free speech collapses, before we lose the ability to unite people from across the political spectrum and create new movements, new unity, new acceptance, a new vital political movement, which is surely what the world needs right now.
00:01:51.000Biden's State of the Union speech maybe doesn't address the truth of America.
00:01:58.000I've got a fantastic guest coming up, Satish Kumar, a genuine hero, an elder, a true, spiritual, potent voice that can provide the necessary sucker that we require at this time.
00:02:10.000He's not a conspiracy theorist, is he?
00:02:13.000That conspiracy theorist Satish Kumar when he was meeting those other conspiracy theorists like Martin Luther King Jr and Bertrand Russell, those crackpots in the SDE.
00:02:26.000We're only going to be on Twitter and YouTube for a little while before we're on Rumble on the Wild West, so I want to make sure that we get as much across as possible.
00:02:36.000Do you know what I want to give people the chance to do?
00:02:38.000Everyone's worried about the energy crisis, aren't they?
00:02:40.000The fuel, for some reason, has become very, very expensive and costly, even though the energy companies like Shell and BP are enjoying their most profitable years in history, even though they still receive government subsidies.
00:04:06.000A mass formation, because we've been discussing mass psyche and mass hypnosis over the course of the week.
00:04:12.000We get guests on here that can give us unique insights into the reality behind the systems of domination within which most of us toil and grind.
00:04:21.000But now it's our take on the State of the Union Address, which is essentially just a propagandist piece, isn't it?
00:04:30.000But, like, a lot of people think that it was senseless faticus, that's imitative information, no real political value to it, just an oratory exercise with no real truth.
00:04:40.000But I think it was pretty valuable, and there was some pretty powerful rhetoric in there.
00:04:45.000And make no mistake, if you try to increase the price of Frisbee, I will veto it.
00:06:30.000Technological, inaccessible to most of us who don't understand the complexity of the way that technology operates, manages demographics and data.
00:06:39.000But like, when something, like, old school, like there's a balloon floating in the... You up there?
00:06:44.000Like, Joe Budden, he could deal with that with one of his angry fish shakes.
00:07:13.000What we're looking at is how the left have fetishised conflict with Russia in order to pursue a unipolar agenda and how the right potentially is looking at exacerbating the conflict that is already an economic one.
00:07:28.000I suppose Joe Biden has imposed the most aggressive sanctions yet because of semiconductors.
00:07:33.000There's a thing you've never heard of that now you have to learn.
00:07:42.000Yeah, this is how we're going to beat China, apparently.
00:07:44.000So I suppose this is what we're asking, is that even though the State of the Union Address, I'm sure, was full of the usual platitudinous patriotic claptrap, are we being groomed and prepped for yet more global wars?
00:07:57.000I mean, the one thing that was good about the proxy war with Russia, I thought, is it's not China.
00:08:52.000Do you remember when like Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, all them dudes told their shareholders we can guarantee profits in the next quarter because this war is going to be dragging on?
00:09:01.000Yeah, war with Ukraine is good for business.
00:09:03.000I think, let me know if you agree with me in the chat and the comments, that at this point, because of our ability to curate information from a wide variety of sources, if we truly watch the narratives that are usually suppressed, ones that you won't see discussed on mainstream media, you might be able to...
00:09:19.000Pre-empt where these conflicts are going and even when they might commence We're already into the sanctions at stage.
00:09:27.000We're already into the condemnatory Bombastic language phase the economic opportunity of war China encircled by a war John Pilger called a noose.
00:09:52.000Through a double arc, maybe even a little McDonald's, but a noose, nothing good comes out of that unless, I mean, I don't even want to get into that territory until we're in the Wild West that is Rumble.
00:10:02.000But this is why we shouldn't be tricked by this whole balloon stuff.
00:10:22.000I sometimes feel that news narratives require symbols.
00:10:26.000I'll handle this as carefully as I possibly can.
00:10:29.000Part of the idea that coronavirus originated in a wet market, which still yet may be the truth because there are several theories being discussed and no conclusions have yet been offered, but the wet market was an evocative idea because it plays to the ordinary mistrust that Occidental people may have when contemplating Food sources, different cultural ideas and values.
00:10:55.000When you start seeing the different... It's very basic and primal, the food people eat, the way people are, our atavistic suspicion of the other, of people that are from other communities.
00:11:06.000These things transcend ethics and morality.
00:11:32.000The balloon is literally above America.
00:11:34.000Increasingly likely now that it was a weather balloon, at least that's what they're saying.
00:11:38.000You'll still see people say, oh no, they could have got down into the air force bases and fired off something from a nuclear fission factory.
00:11:46.000Yeah, but even if that is the case, I mean literally when we're talking about this noose and this arc of military bases, perhaps giving the US a front row seat to spy on China.
00:11:54.000And then a point that Caitlin Johnson made in one of her brilliant articles as usual this week was, Talking about Edward Snowden, the revelations around spying with that, it's like we get all in this frenzy about this balloon because it eventually leads us towards this narrative about war with China, but when revelations like Edward Snowden come out that America is spying on its own citizens, oh we bang him up and or let him flee off to Russia.
00:12:58.000They are amping up the war on drugs, as you can see from this story.
00:13:03.000Harsher penalties for fentanyl related substances.
00:13:06.000Now if there's one aspect of the drug crisis and mental health crisis in America in the last few years, it was the disgusting way the pharmaceutical industry induced that crisis.
00:13:18.000The profits that were gleaned, and this seldom happens, is an area where I'm something of an expert.
00:13:23.000I understand addiction and I understand what psychologically underwrites addiction.
00:13:28.000Pain, loss, disconnection, loneliness, total lack of trust in the system.
00:13:34.000So to hear that the war on drugs is back but under the new auspices of liberalism shows you precisely and exactly how hollow this administration is.
00:13:48.000Well yeah the thing is this is it's being talked about and I think it was in the State of the Union where Biden was talking about the trafficking element of this and that we're cracking down on the trafficking element and that's how we're going to solve the problem of the fentanyl issues.
00:13:59.000But it's also that fentanyl any fentanyl related cases it's a schedule one drug now so it means that like people taking it You know, so you're going to end up with the same situation where prisons are going to get filled up with more people.
00:14:40.000One of our elders we'll be talking to a little later in the show, Satish Kumar.
00:14:44.000A man who went on a pilgrimage from India, met greats like Bertrand Russell, the English philosopher, and Martin Luther King, the unparalleled, peerless leader of the American civil rights movement.
00:14:57.000More dark money flooding into politics in spite of the Democrat Party saying that they wouldn't sanction it.
00:15:02.000And by the way, We're not saying that the Republican Party are the solution to these problems, are we?
00:15:10.000Because we believe in transcendent ideals.
00:15:12.000No, but you can point out hypocrisy when you see it.
00:15:14.000I mean, for a party that once decried dark money and said, you know, it's just the Republicans using it and we wouldn't do it, and then winning an election using dark money, and now they're They won an election using the very dark money they said they would never use.
00:15:57.000The reason we're on Rumble is we can freely say whatever we want and we believe in...
00:16:01.000Unity, transcendence, freedom of the individual, freedom of the community, traditional values, progressive values, your right to democratically run your community, public discourse where all voices are heard, valued and respected and everybody is included and we unify where possible against centralised establishment power, that's our real threat, not one another, that we should find ways to unite, accept and love one another and if that That makes me a conspiracy theorist baby.
00:18:21.000Better than... What you're not doing is killing one of the creatures of the Lord as a temporary material expression of the limitless love that we surely all must be accessing.
00:18:31.000One of the things I'll be talking to Satish Kumar about.
00:18:34.000Now, we mentioned the quiz a little bit earlier.
00:18:36.000Which country pretends to be liberal, but is actually a tricky little totalitarian country?
00:18:41.000Let me just see what people are saying.
00:20:43.000I don't mind him doing that so much though.
00:20:46.000You probably would really like him if you were like I guess he's at some stage school in London when he yeah I think it was just wasn't it the day before something really serious yeah they did some stuff with the truckers like around then they said those truckers Nazis, and we're going to shut down all the bank accounts.
00:21:01.000It's this time where we just all need to be very careful about what we're doing.
00:21:37.000You'll be lucky if you're using any kind of actual cash notes these days Ross.
00:21:41.000You will earn nothing and you will be happy.
00:21:42.000Certainly not in Canada anyway, that's not the way it's going.
00:21:45.000Because they are, actually there are stories behind this, this isn't just frivolity and just an opportunity to show you Trudeau, God love him, being slightly absurd.
00:21:56.000There's a new online censorship bill that's been passed in Canada, what does it mean Gal?
00:22:02.000Currently the law for censorship only kind of pertains to like TV and radio and things like this, but this is designed to extend those powers for online media as well.
00:23:04.000The guys, the way that they're introducing this is that it's about climate change, is that people will be able to kind of monitor their climate change and all help to, you know, What our job is now, I think, is to diagnose upcoming trends.
00:23:20.000As well as doing our level best to inform you of reality as we understand it, I think we have to be alert to the geopolitical issues, such as the reality behind the proxy war between the USA and Russia and what the goals are of that.
00:23:36.000We've spoken about that at some length.
00:23:38.000There are Numerous goals to destabilize and drain Russia, to create a post-war Ukraine that generates opportunity for companies like BlackRock, to pilot ideas like digital ID and surveillance.
00:23:51.000They've already said that Ukraine will be 100% digital.
00:23:54.000So to report the stories that you don't get.
00:23:57.000You tell us in the chat in the comments if this is what you want.
00:24:00.000Then to be alert Excuse me, of emergent stories like the evolving conflict between the USA and China and how we're prepared and groomed for it.
00:24:10.000Then to watch out for stories about digital IDs, censorship.
00:24:13.000That's one of the things we're super interested in and what we do with our guests.
00:24:16.000We bring on guests that are experts in those areas.
00:24:19.000If you cannot control communication and information because of the technological revolutions of
00:24:24.000the last 20 years in particular, what's obviously a requirement is the ability to
00:24:48.000The right of the Republican Party weren't regarded as, like, flat-out Nazis.
00:24:53.000There's a rise of nationalism as a response to globalism, no doubt about it, but the ordinary political discourse within a country like America was, Republicans, Democrats, they really make no difference, so it wasn't, like, fueled by hatred.
00:25:06.000And that's one of our main points, isn't it?
00:25:08.000That if you were sort of fervidly pro-Joe Biden, Then what are you now doing with what's happened in that country since then?
00:25:16.000With what's happening now with the opioid crisis story that we just talked about today, the escalating of tensions, the botched Afghanistan, all of this stuff.
00:25:26.000You have to accept that ultimately these are establishment entities.
00:25:30.000You also have to hope that, like, on the other side, that when Donald Trump comes on the telly and says stuff about, you know, ending the war and that there wouldn't be war if he was president, that it doesn't mean that if he does get to become president again, that then they ramp stuff up with China even more.
00:25:46.000You know, you have to hope that on both sides.
00:25:48.000I mean, Jimmy Dore was brilliant last week when he came on and he said, this is not about either party, this is about the military-industrial complex.
00:26:50.000If we're to unite against the threat of terrifying killer robots and AI taking all of our jobs, we better learn to communicate better, even if the systems of communication may end up being co-opted by those very robots.
00:27:02.000Let's have a look at some of those terrifying robots now.
00:27:08.000I don't like that their soundtrack is like Stomp or one of those Broadway shows where people are like dum-dum-dum-da-dum-dum.
00:27:21.000Yeah, well, at least no-one's strapped a gun to their back and just let them loose in society where they nervously spray bullets into a barren landscape.
00:27:31.000Alright, well as long as it's just the military using these terrifying robot dogs against people from other countries who are nothing like us and don't have soul spirit stuff, we don't have to worry about that.
00:27:42.000We don't want them filtering into domestic police forces and being used against the domestic population.
00:27:51.000In March, the Biden administration was criticized for encouraging local governments to use the American Rescue Plan Act, ARPA funds, a 1.9 trillion pandemic relief aid package on policing in the midst of an ongoing pandemic.
00:28:04.000There are many confusing things that happened in that pandemic, but it just didn't make sense.
00:28:08.000But perhaps the most confusing thing was when they went, OK, in order to help people that have suffered as a result of this pandemic, we are buying an army of robot dogs that can shoot people.
00:28:23.000Some towns and cities approved police requests to spend pandemic relief funds on drones and armoured vehicles.
00:28:28.000We brought you that story at the time.
00:28:30.000This week, members of Los Angeles City Council's Public Safety Committee voted in favour of LAPD's acquisition of military robots.
00:28:38.000Because LAPD have got such a great history when it comes to dealing with civil unrest, that what you want is for them to have autonomous clip-clop gun dogs unleashed throughout Compton!
00:28:49.000The result of the committee's vote were not surprising.
00:28:52.000Four of its five members are top recipients of campaign donations from political groups representing LAPD officers.
00:28:59.000Of course, there are great people in the police force.
00:29:01.000I happen to know some great people in the police force, so this is not an out-and-out attack on the police force.
00:29:06.000This is an attack on militarizing the police force and the potential of the police force being used against the public that they're supposed to be protecting and serving.
00:29:12.000It's not like there's any history or current news stories about the police attacking citizens.
00:29:17.000In the past, these semi-autonomous quadrupedal bots have had only brief tours of duty with police forces across the U.S.
00:29:24.000You know how they're introducing them to us by making them laugh, aren't they?
00:29:26.000Like, hey, look at these funny little clip-clop dog.
00:29:30.000How can we make American people like these evil killer robots?
00:31:02.000The goal here is to normalise and ingrain the technology so that taxpayers start footing the bill down the line.
00:31:08.000No, they wouldn't do that, would they?
00:31:09.000Get the taxpayers to pay for something that became profitable and ultimately led to less freedom for all of us?
00:31:13.000No, that doesn't even sound remotely familiar.
00:31:15.000This is what happened when LAPF, Los Angeles Police Foundation, funded a pilot of LAPD body camera surveillance, funded LAPD's implementation of Palantir data processing systems, funded the hiring of controversial academics But otherwise, have you done it?
00:32:50.000White Castle is testing the Flippy Robot at 100 locations, and Chipotle uses a one-armed robot to make tortilla chips at one site, and Starbucks has $18,000 AI-powered espresso machines in at least 1,200 locations.
00:33:03.000When you watch this mainstream media news report on the Flippy Robot, please notice their perspective and their general tone towards the Flippy Robot.
00:33:11.000That it's favourable, that it's fun, that it's innocuous.
00:33:13.000Even when it's announced that it's going to have a human economic cost, they still see it as brilliant because their agenda is not interrupted by the Flippy Robot.
00:33:20.000It is ultimately served, as is your espresso, piping hot by a robot that hates you.
00:33:24.000Chipotle's testing an autonomous kitchen robot that can make its tortilla chips.
00:33:57.000That's not positive news if you're concerned about the automization of the workforce.
00:34:00.000That's not positive news if you care about increasing inequality and the inability of ordinary people to organize against centralized power.
00:34:07.000That's bad news cheerfully delivered by the media arm of centralized authority.
00:34:10.000A follow-up story on Chippy, of course, you know, also related to Flippy, which is the hamburger flipper that is stationed in some White Castle restaurant.
00:34:55.000In a way even this innocuous seemingly story is a good example of how the mainstream media
00:35:01.000facilitates the agenda of centralized authority.
00:35:03.000I don't want to be conspiratorial, but the coalescence of financial interest is to the advantage of the kind of elites that hugely benefited, for example, during the pandemic and benefit during this war.
00:35:14.000And the more that people become expendable, generally speaking, the more power they have.
00:35:19.000If, like, the only power that we have is, hey, we're not going to do that, I'm not buying that, why don't we come together and organise our own city?
00:35:25.000They've got chippy, flippy, lippy and grippy, all of Donald Duck's bastard robot nephews.
00:36:11.000That employee is not going to be taking off days from work.
00:36:14.000It's not going to be taking off any time, is it, Flippy or Chippy?
00:36:17.000It's certainly not going to complain about its labor conditions or about growing inequality across America or the possibility of ordinary people having a life that's built around more than just working, endless shifts, and maybe looking out the window one day and seeing a butterfly or a leaf floating on a breeze.
00:36:58.000I'm willing to pay more for the perfect tortilla chip.
00:37:00.000I'm gonna leave there happy, feeling good about myself.
00:37:02.000How dare they include improved food quality on that list, like a faceless soulless robot can prepare food better than a human being, or your grandmother, or the relationship between ceremony, ritual, community, culture and food.
00:37:15.000Every single bit of humanity extracted.
00:37:18.000The thing that's true is reduces labour costs.
00:37:20.000All the other things on that list are sort of mitigating.
00:37:22.000In fact, I don't care about anything other than that, and I'm not blaming the individual news show, or even A massive organization like Chipotle.
00:37:52.000A 2020 World Economic Forum report predicted that robotics and automation would displace 85 million jobs globally in the coming five years.
00:38:01.000Experts have also claimed that AI bots will take 20% of all jobs within five years.
00:39:22.000The economists examined the effects of industrial robots on the Chinese labour market using data from over 15,000 families and found that the workforce struggled to adjust to the dramatic changes brought by robotics.
00:39:33.000So what exactly was it that made working with robots so difficult?
00:39:45.000Robot exposure led to a decline in labour force participation, minus 1%, employment, minus 7.5%, and hourly wages, minus 9% of Chinese workers, they wrote.
00:39:55.000At the same time, among those who kept working, robot exposure increased the numbers of hours worked by 14%.
00:40:01.000The implications of robotisation in emerging markets for jobs, growth and inequality could be profound, the economists wrote.
00:40:07.000They went on to argue that developing nations may be faced with the decision between increased productivity and potential higher economic inequality and social unrest if they choose to continue automating away jobs with robots.
00:40:19.000Hopefully then there are new protest laws being introduced all over the world and harsh new measures preventing people from forming unions and coming together.
00:40:27.000Also, hopefully, there are massive censorship laws that prevent people from conducting conversations in public spaces that allow them to organise around alternative narratives and agenda that oppose centralised authority.
00:40:39.000Keep watching the mainstream media everyone, you'll see the way this is heading.
00:40:43.000That's why we need independent voices like this and independent conversations like this one, so that we can continue to present mainstream news and advancing technologies in a more balanced light.
00:40:52.000That's not to say that technology isn't fascinating, that all of this couldn't be used to create some kind of utopian society where people didn't need to work and that we could spend all our time praying and exploring inner and outer space and creating Wonderful new systems of opportunity and care and love for one another, psychedelic ventures, but I don't imagine that's the way all this is heading.
00:41:36.000Stay free, awake, self-sufficient and unified.
00:41:38.000This is something Gareth and I were discussing earlier.
00:41:41.000So many of us are prisoners of comfort, unable to cope in reality.
00:41:46.000I feel an urge to train myself to be able to feed myself to survive if there is the solar flare or some event that brings civilization crumbling to rubble.
00:41:58.000Hunter Biden, oh I'm not going to read that name out, Hunter Biden then one of his hobbies 2022, those robotic dogs won't need Oh God, that whole comment is disgusting.
00:42:31.000A lifelong activist, a significant figure, and I have argued consistently that were there to be a global council of elders, or even, you know, don't have to be global, Satish Kumar would be on it.
00:42:43.000He's the founder of the Resurgence Trust, that's an educational charity that seeks to inform and inspire a just future for all.
00:42:49.000He's the editor of the charity's change-making magazine, Resurgence Anecologist, Satish Kumar entered first into public consciousness in 1962 when he walked 8,000 miles, a global pilgrimage over two years.
00:43:04.000He started at Mahatma Gandhi's grave and walked to Moscow, Paris, London and the United States where he met Martin Luther King Jr.
00:43:10.000and I'm very proud to call him a teacher.
00:43:14.000Satish, thank you very much for joining us on Stay Free today.
00:43:21.000Satish, you came to prominence in the 1960s where the countercultural movement genuinely seemed like it might change the world before it metastasized into kind of individualism and consumerism that is Still morphing into a tyrannical force, an entirely immersive force across our culture.
00:43:41.000During the 60s when you came to prominence, people spoke openly about the desire for peace.
00:43:46.000In this time that appears to be defined by conflict of different kinds, most Obviously, of course, literal war.
00:43:54.000Do you feel that when there is conflicts that are necessary for the military-industrial complex, one of the most influential and powerful forces on this planet, while there is a war between Ukraine and Russia, when it feels like there are escalating tensions between the USA and China, that peace ought once again become part of our discourse.
00:44:12.000What are your thoughts on these conflicts that are determining and defining our planet right now, sir?
00:44:20.000I'm very saddened to see war in Ukraine.
00:44:25.000And as you say, this industrial military complex, which is kind of benefiting maybe perhaps, but at the cost of hundreds of thousands of ordinary people suffering and destruction.
00:44:39.000So I think, but politicians have forgotten how to be a statesman.
00:44:47.000The diplomats have forgotten how to practice diplomacy, and religious leaders on all sides have forgotten how to practice religion and love.
00:44:58.000This is why I've written this book, Radical Love.
00:45:01.000Radical love, Russell, is when you are able to love even those you don't like and you don't agree.
00:45:09.000And this is where I think Putin and Biden and Rishi Sunak and Zelensky, they all need to read my book and practice radical love and sit down together.
00:45:20.000And I have a good solution for Ukraine situation.
00:45:47.000Winning these days of war is impossible.
00:45:50.000So it will go on destroying and there's no win.
00:45:53.000So what my solution for Ukraine is being like Switzerland.
00:45:58.000Swiss model, where Switzerland did not go to First World War, did not go to Second World War, did not join NATO, did not join EU.
00:46:07.000Independent, its own currency, its own system and a very neutral and trading with everybody.
00:46:14.000So if Ukraine can say to Russia that there's no threat from you, from us, for you, there's no NATO, there's no EU, we are independent, we are neutral, like Switzerland, and Switzerland can be rich because they are neutral.
00:46:31.000And Switzerland can be home for everybody.
00:46:56.000Russia would say, yes, if you are neutral and not a member of NATO and not a member of EU and independent, trading with everybody, that's welcome.
00:47:03.000It seems that eventually a solution of that type will have to be reached.
00:47:09.000Currently, what appears to be driving the conflict is the set of interests that are most obviously going to benefit From the reconstruction of Ukraine, some of our investigations and investigations of others, which we have curated as part of our team, suggest that and it's publicly understood that BlackRock will be participating in the reconstruction of Ukraine.
00:47:37.000Ukraine want to be 100% digital after this war.
00:47:40.000And assurances that Ukraine could become a place of neutrality surely would make a difference, as well as providing, if there were anything like Switzerland, another potential venue for WEF to host their globalist events.
00:47:55.000The problem, Satish, is that it feels like, in reality, the conflict between Ukraine and Russia is about ...territorial and economic interests, not all of which are explicit.
00:48:10.000And there is an attempt to reduce these conflicts to simple moral stories of, you know, Russian criminality and Putin's evil.
00:48:21.000And radical love, I suppose, radical love, I mean, it's your book and you wrote it, but for me that suggests an acknowledgement, ultimately, of our fundamental Humanism, of our fundamental shared goals, of our fundamental unity.
00:52:08.000I would say technology should be in the service of humanity.
00:52:13.000Technology should be a tool to help humans, not replace humans.
00:52:18.000Not replace human thinking, but aid human thinking.
00:52:22.000So technology as a servant of humanity is good.
00:52:26.000Technology as a master of humanity and replacing humanity is a disastrous and bad technology.
00:52:33.000So I want to challenge all the digital dictators that what are you doing is anti-human and anti-nature.
00:52:42.000It's very beautiful and it reminds me of the analysis of the ego, that the ego is a good servant but a terrible master.
00:52:50.000That when the persona, the set of ideas with which we most strongly identify dominate us, our lives become more materialistic, more wedded to transitory and ultimately temporal things.
00:54:13.000Small and elegant and simple is beautiful.
00:54:17.000So we should, at the grassroots level, people should come together and say we are going to live a human life.
00:54:23.000Technology as a servant, but human life.
00:54:26.000And we are going to take a Hippocratic oath, the Hippocratic oath like Dr. State, do no harm, do no harm to nature, do no harm to other people, and do no harm to yourself.
00:54:37.000If all of us practice that nonviolent Peaceful way of living, the Hippocratic oath, then that Hippocratic oath is oath to loyalty to nature and loyalty to humanity rather than loyalty to business and money and profit and governments and military.
00:54:56.000Our loyalty has to shift at a grassroots level.
00:54:59.000So let us create a movement of the hypocrite out. Everyone, you are a businessman or
00:55:06.000woman or a politician or economist or a scientist, whoever you are, practice non-violence,
00:55:13.000practice the hypocrite out, doing no harm. That is radical love.
00:55:18.000It's very hard though Satish to live like that. It's very hard to live only in love.
00:55:24.000All the great things are hard, Russell.
00:56:47.000This is, I suppose, one of the challenges when you lose your connection to spirituality, which involves things like sacrifice, discipline, focus.
00:56:56.000When everything becomes tethered to the external, when all of our personal validation, verification is externally sourced, we don't have the cojones no more.
00:57:06.000We don't have the spiritual stones, the minerals to sort of go Right, I'm gonna suffer now.
00:57:15.000It's difficult, but I will do it now that you have commanded it on our show.
00:57:19.000I think suffering will make us strong and resilient.
00:57:24.000If you take a tree, A tree stands in the winter, in the snow, in the storm, out in the field as a stronger.
00:57:32.000If you keep a tree in a greenhouse or in a conservatory all the time, the tree will not be strong.
00:57:38.000So resilience comes when we suffer and we make sacrifice and I have suffered and made sacrifice in my life and I am much more strong for that.
01:01:08.000Once you create agriculture, of course you meet loads of food needs, but we all know about food wastage.
01:01:13.000We all know how so many needs go unmet, possibly with the technology we have.
01:01:17.000Well, there's an essay that I've got to read, actually.
01:01:20.000Daniel Pinchbeck's always telling me to read it.
01:01:22.000Oscar Wilde's essay, The Soul of Man Under Socialism, that technology could be used to create Utopias, where we have more time for contemplation, art, and leisure.
01:01:31.000That all of these tools and technologies, in fact, could be used to create a fairer world, but we'd have to change spiritually.
01:01:36.000As long as the most powerful institutions and interests and sort of almost systemic magnetism is directed towards selfish goals, as long as the emotional palette that it's drawn from is greed and selfishness, because a lot of that stuff can be distilled into it, it's unlikely that we'll create the utopias that are possible.
01:01:52.000But what he was saying about things being hard as well, I thought it was really interesting.
01:01:55.000You know, that's what we've been given.
01:01:56.000We've been given comfort and convenience over freedom.
01:02:00.000That's essentially, that's the bargain that we've made.
01:02:03.000We've entered into that and we kind of forget that we have, but it seems like on the surface, all things are alright and we can get these things and, but that's what they've, that's what they've done.
01:02:14.000And so, you know, you get to a point where, like we were saying the other day about the pandemic and all these 30% of small businesses closing.
01:02:23.000We kind of think it does because we've got this kind of supposed comfort and convenience that even in the pandemic, we could order this food that came in half an hour or whatever.
01:04:21.000Uh, hey, on tomorrow's show we've got Callie Means talking about how he's taking on big food.
01:04:26.000One of the great problems is the food that we are eating is good for the system that generates food, not good for the human body.
01:04:33.000And if that weren't enough to radicalise you and wake you the hell up, Friday, Dr John Campbell, he of the overhead shot, who quietly, meticulously breaks down the data and has over the course of the pandemic gone from, hey, yeah, I guess, you know, the vaccine, that's good news, to Wait a minute!
01:04:49.000But he's never done anything incendiary or silly because he's a doctor.
01:04:53.000If you want to, you can... I'm getting a strike on YouTube.
01:04:56.000Oh yeah, the WHO ain't having it, let me tell you.