Dr. Peter McCulloch was one of the early adopters and brave voices when it came to speaking the truth to power during the pandemic period. And today we re talking about his new book, Vaccines: Mythology, Ideology, and Reality.
00:00:18.000Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:20.000Today I'm talking to Dr. Peter McCulloch, one of the early adopters and brave voices when it came to speaking the truth to power during the pandemic period.
00:00:29.000Peter McCulloch stayed the line and stayed the course when it came to the truth about vaccines.
00:00:34.000And today we're talking about his new book, Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology, and Reality.
00:00:38.000What you'll find fascinating, I really enjoyed the number of correlations between scientific orthodoxy and religious orthodoxy.
00:00:47.000You may think you've heard that horse being flogged already, but not to this degree and to this depth.
00:00:52.000For example, look at this Euro coin, this 20 Euro coin that sort of essentially tries to equate transubstantiation with vaccination.
00:02:04.000The reason I admire you so much is because you're one of those people that stepped up when it mattered and was bold enough to tell the truth when there were obviously consequences.
00:02:11.000And now you're rightly being rewarded.
00:02:14.000Your new book, Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology, and Reality, is available now.
00:02:18.000There's a QR code up on the screen for those of you that want to buy it.
00:02:22.000Tell me, like, I mean, we're just living in this extraordinary storm of new information.
00:02:27.000Just today or earlier this week, I was reading that they are now saying, yes, there are not ample clinical trials to claim that there's no connection between, for example, autism and vaccines.
00:02:41.000Tell me where you stand and what the benefit of reading this book is for a parent and indeed anyone that cares about truth.
00:02:49.000Well, like you and so many people around the world, I was blown away with the complete madness that occurred with the COVID-19 vaccine campaign.
00:02:57.000And with my co-author, John Leake, who is a historian, we decided to look into this and did our own investigation.
00:03:08.000We go back to actually Cotton Mather in the United States, 1721, about 50 years before Edward Jenner in the UK.
00:03:19.000And what we uncovered from the very beginning is that there was an incredible fear of infectious diseases, bold claims made by vaccine developers that couldn't possibly have been true, and then always a tremendous amount of money and power.
00:03:37.000And early on in vaccines, they didn't even know it caused the disease, let alone whether a product, you know, an injection or something else would stop it.
00:03:45.000But when we saw things roll out with the COVID-19 vaccine campaign, again, a blind acceptance of the vaccines based on essentially a religious faith, not scientific evidence, then it started to fit together.
00:04:00.000And so the book is written as a narrative.
00:04:03.000It's not a boring medical book, and it's not a timeline.
00:04:06.000It's a character-driven description of what happened.
00:04:11.000An ideology formed around vaccines, you know, driven by these various factors.
00:04:16.000And Russell, if I could go a bit further and just say the ideology essentially says this, that we have fear and susceptibility to infectious diseases, that through the brilliance of mankind, man can improve upon God's creation.
00:05:01.000I've never heard it put so succinctly, but it fits very neatly into a paradigm that I've been exploring for some time myself, where accumulative human authority undergirded by reason surmounts and surpasses divine authority.
00:05:17.000And once you accept that as a premise and the principle, you can deploy it, if not arbitrarily, wherever, you can apply it where it's required.
00:05:31.000I remember even before I knew any of this stuff that being kind of skeptical about vaccines when I considered, as the individualist I was, and I suppose to some degree remain, that whilst I can understand the idea that vaccines might be good for the whole, they may not necessarily be good for the individual.
00:05:52.000And that was sort of voided of any sort of spiritual insights.
00:05:55.000That was just a kind of my own counter-rational perspective.
00:06:00.000My rationalism versus their rationalism.
00:06:02.000I can see that for you, you might want to vaccinate everyone for the school system or whatever, but my Mabel and my Peggy and my Herbie might not want them involved in this.
00:06:12.000Now, that's before we start to understand the layers of deception and disingenuity that you've already started to unpack in the first few minutes of our conversation.
00:06:21.000Now, this transition from kind of snake oil selling and, you know, and well-intentioned entrepreneurialism and alchemic brilliance that sort of must have preceded the medical profession was somehow sort of lacquered and shellacked in sigils and insignia of medical authority,
00:06:40.000perhaps to mask, ironically, just how protean some of these ideas were and how insubstantial and how lacking in the kind of credible, clinically undergirded, double-blinded authority that most of us require before putting substances into our children's body.
00:07:02.000How exactly did they conduct that bait and switch, doctor?
00:07:06.000How did we get from, you know, I don't know, where was it where George Washington famously vaccinated troops?
00:07:13.000You know, where's that famous battle you guys had, you know, where all of the troops were sick and stuff and they were like literally prior to syringes and stuff vaccinating.
00:07:22.000Wenda, how did we get from an open, honest appraisal of the experimental nature, excuse me, of vaccine ideology into this sort of robust certainty?
00:08:50.000You know, King Edward III of Britain, he had his children variolated.
00:08:58.000And two of his children died directly after the procedure.
00:09:02.000But there was an acceptance here that we were going to accept loss in order to try to protect others.
00:09:10.000He must have thought it was valuable for his 15 other children.
00:09:13.000Benjamin Franklin was originally very critical of Cotton Mather, thinking, you know, this is, you know, this is potentially dangerous or may not work.
00:09:21.000No one even knew what smallpox was, let alone how it spread.
00:09:24.000But then he lost little Frankie to smallpox.
00:09:28.000And Ben Franklin did 180 and said, you know, I'm behind this.
00:09:32.000If this works, we're going to give it a go.
00:09:34.000And then Edward Jenner in the UK and Colster, essentially, he was at the right hand of the king and queen.
00:09:42.000Pasteur, you know, essentially would make bold claims and said, you know, I'll get back to you on the details later.
00:09:49.000And he made all kinds of claims that he had cured foul cholera and all kinds of diseases.
00:09:54.000When his memoirs finally came out in the 1960s, his family released them, we realized most of what Louis Pasteur was claiming wasn't true at all.
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00:11:41.000It's extraordinary, actually, how these almost archetypal patterns are observable in this apparent chaotic slew of events passing through time.
00:11:51.000Where I've sort of first noticed that phenomena is in the bold and obvious example of the Russian revolution, where the centralist czarist model is replaced and somehow as if controlled by ethereal magnetic fields,
00:12:14.000the communism that replaces it or the Bolshevism initially eventually becomes a similarly centralized, corrupt institution that coalesces around one individual.
00:12:28.000It makes me wonder, Doctor, if, as with variolation, there is a requirement to honor whatever forces we cannot understand, the sort of extrasensory supernatural powers that likely organize, originate, design, create life.
00:12:49.000When we detach ourselves from that, we create diabolical models.
00:12:54.000And isn't Lucifer's primary creed the belief that we can set up systems aside from and parallel to God?
00:13:03.000So Pasteur and Fauci have a peculiar correlative.
00:13:09.000Now, we're in at the moment, in my country, I can see you're leafing through your own fantastic book, endorsed by the Children's Science.
00:13:16.000Russell, before you get off the supernatural, I wanted to point out the cover.
00:13:20.000So the cover features not only a genetic code, because where we are now with genetic vaccines, but look at the coin and look at the iconography of this.
00:13:30.000This is the classic tripartite depiction of a boy about to receive the Eucharist.
00:13:37.000And instead of receiving the body and blood of Christ, he receives a vaccine.
00:14:26.000And so the entire faith community bought into this religiosity around the COVID vaccines.
00:14:35.000I'd never noticed before the emulation of transubstantiation inherent in the body and blood.
00:14:46.000And when you consider that one of the, am I right, Doctor, in saying that one of the ingredients of is frequently fetal tissue from human embryos, that we're being invited, yeah, that's terrifying, that coin, we're being invited to participate in a transubstantiation in which we do not emulate or become like Christ.
00:15:14.000What are these counterfeit institutions that want us, like God demands, to come like little children, to depend upon them, to trust them, to submit to them?
00:15:27.000perfectly reasonable postures when you're dealing with an imminent and transcendent, irreproachable God, but a little more dubious when it's human reason detached from divine principle, which is where reason goes wrong.
00:15:44.000That's when reason becomes demonic, diabolical, in a way, unreasonable, ironically.
00:15:51.000And so that's fascinating and terrifying.
00:15:54.000And of course, one of the things that was most notable was we lost the ability to congregate.
00:15:59.000We were given a lot of falsehoods that were undergirded.
00:16:03.000In fact, that's what the pandemic period was characterized by.
00:16:09.000Otherwise, you are a heretic and you must be shamed and you must be destroyed and you are the worst kind of person.
00:16:15.000And one by one, we've sort of peeled away these various liturgies that we were offered.
00:16:25.000And each one of them, whether it's masks or social distancing or lockdowns itself or the efficacy of the vaccines or the impact of COVID or the origins of COVID, one by one, it's been shown to be absolutely false.
00:16:39.000And almost, I suppose, like vaccines themselves, doctor, you know, we participate through faith.
00:16:46.000Like, I want to believe that there's some way that I can take an injection and be inoculated and immunized against infection.
00:16:54.000My faith is an ingredient in the vaccine.
00:16:58.000Now, how is it that we are so, I mean, I guess this is behavior in mass psychology, but why are we so reluctant to, a couple of years down the line, accept exactly what's happened to us?
00:17:10.000And what kind of effort in communication is going to be required from those of us that are to various degrees, of course, in your case, it was supremely so, aware of the truth of these events and the degree of duplicity of the pandemic period.
00:17:26.000What is our obligation now, obviously, write this book, but like, I wonder if people are, how people are going to receive such an unwholesome truth.
00:17:36.000Believe it or not, they may not receive it at all or they may not accept it at all.
00:17:43.000I was honored to lecture at Chautauqua this year, which is an age-old dialectic institution in Western New York where dignitaries have lectured there for hundreds of years.
00:17:54.000And I pointed out that when it's in the medical field and there's self-participation by doctors and nurses and others, we can get deeply off course.
00:18:04.000And I gave the example of the first great cocaine epidemic from 1860 to 1920, where virtually every medicinal product, every pharmaceutical company made cocaine products.
00:18:15.000And doctors and nurses became incredibly hooked on cocaine.
00:18:22.000And the doctors did not stop themselves.
00:18:24.000Halstead, the father of modern surgery, Sigmund Freud, they became cocaine addicts.
00:18:30.000And through that period of time, through that 60 years in one of our journals, GEMA, which is a well-cited journal, there was one paper of concern regarding cocaine addiction among healthcare providers.
00:18:44.000Now we fast forward to 1920 to 1978, smoking.
00:18:50.000By 1950, virtually every doctor and nurse smoked.
00:18:53.000There was campaigns by Philip Morris and R.G.I. Reynolds, an American tobacco company.
00:18:58.000Doctors gave out cigarettes in their waiting room.
00:19:00.000They proclaimed they were safe and they were studied.
00:19:04.000And when it was pointed out by two Bretts, the epidemiologist was Austin Bradford Hill and the doctor was Richard Dahl, that smoking caused lung cancer.
00:19:32.000This went all the way till 1978 before the American Medical Association had its very first campaign about the health hazards of smoking and then the tobacco settlement in the 1990s.
00:19:44.000So here's two examples where there's great harm being done to the doctors themselves and the public at large, and they refuse to see it or accept it.
00:19:53.000Now we're five years into this COVID-19 vaccine.
00:19:56.000Some of the biggest supporters of vaccination were the doctors and nurses.
00:20:02.000There's not a single chief of medicine at any major institution in the world who's come out and expressed any concern regarding these COVID vaccines.
00:20:26.000They've recognized now that it's not a mandatable product that they have to appeal in a different and more commercial way.
00:20:34.000And I suppose that the lessons of the pandemic are so stark and severe that one can appreciate why they are, that people are reluctant to receive them.
00:20:48.000I suppose if one were to make it a more parochial, it's difficult to accept.
00:20:54.000In cases where children are abused by their parents, it's so sort of seismic to take on board the horror of that reality that it's sort of held at arm's length as a necessary survival strategy.
00:21:09.000And I suppose that with the pandemic, the conclusions that flow forth from just even a somewhat shallow appreciation of what took place are so stark that it amounts to.
00:21:22.000You cannot trust the World Health Organization.
00:21:24.000You cannot trust the American government.
00:21:25.000You cannot trust the BBC, CNN, the New York Times.
00:21:29.000You cannot trust your own family GP or medical practitioner.
00:21:34.000You can't trust nurses in scrubs in TikTok videos dancing around.
00:21:40.000It's like such a kind of a rejection and a dispelling of the kind of cultural sort of icons and idols that most people would rather just get their head down and have a drink and smoke a cigarette and do a line of Coke rather than sort of confront that you have to repent.
00:22:04.000I mean, I've only been willing to do it because life kicked the absolute shit out of me.
00:22:09.000That's the only way that I've been able to come to a place of repentance.
00:22:13.000First through drugs and alcohol that I was chemically dependent on, then through sex, like through, you know, like I just loved having sex.
00:22:53.000Most people are not going to want, like, you know, when you sort of look at vaccines beyond COVID vaccines and look at the childhood immunization, who among us want to start unpeeling that and unraveling, oh my God, I've given my kid this thing and it doesn't work and it might have been deleterious.
00:23:32.000He points to his arm and he's well, as if synthetic messenger RNA makes you more healthy than what you were, you know, as a normal, natural human being.
00:23:44.000But let me tell you, we're doing a lot of research here in Dallas at McCullough Foundation in my clinic.
00:23:49.000I'm in practice as a practicing doctor.
00:23:52.000And like you, I've faced adversity through the pandemic.
00:23:55.000But, you know, my patients have taught me much that the COVID vaccines have record injuries, disabilities, and deaths worldwide.
00:24:05.000I think many millions of people have died from a vaccine.
00:24:08.000Previously healthy people have lost their life with a vaccine that was supposed to protect them.
00:24:14.000Instead, it took their life or caused heart damage or blood clot or stroke or neurologic problems or cancer.
00:24:22.000But I have patients in my practice in research where the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine is circulating in their bloodstream with the dangerous spike protein that it produces 3.2 years after the shots.
00:25:11.000So we've seen just the most bizarre sets of medical behaviors.
00:25:15.000Complete trust has been lost because there's been the suppression of early treatment, inadequate hospital treatment, and now this relentless pursuit of the vaccine.
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00:26:30.000Because it's not an anomaly and neither is it actually enormous though the story is.
00:26:35.000It's merely an observable symptom of systemic corruption that you would find in every area where there are relationships between commercial entities of that size and bureaucratic bodies of that size.
00:26:47.000It's the modus operandi of state and commerce at the global level.
00:26:52.000And so I suppose that by investigating it explicitly and transparently, they would literally have to disband their entire model.
00:27:26.000This was widely covered in the U.S. media, in shows really across the world.
00:27:32.000And with over 300 studies reviewed, our conclusions were that there are risk factors for autism, which is in epidemic proportions now in all Westernized countries.
00:27:45.000The risk factors include premature delivery, older parents, some exposures during pregnancy, like heavy psychiatric drugs, and then common genetic variants.
00:28:01.000But far and away, the biggest risk factor for the development of autism is combination vaccines.
00:28:09.000And so since 1986, in the United States, the companies have been relieved of any liability for their products.
00:28:38.000And after a big battery of vaccines, they had brain inflammation called encephalitis and now have taken on this post-encephalitic state, which includes the inability to speak, marketly impaired intelligence, unable to navigate in the bathroom, repetitive headbanging, injurious behavior.
00:28:57.000We now have 27% of the entire pool of autism having profound autism.
00:29:03.000And the biggest modifiable risk factor is combination vaccines.
00:29:08.000We've concluded that there's more children in the United States today with profound autism completely disabled than there ever was with polio.
00:29:17.000We've, in a sense, caused a major public health crisis through this vaccine ideology.
00:29:24.000And given the McCullough Foundation report, which is the only thing that's changed in the last three weeks, our CDC quietly, on November 19th, 2025, no press release, no announcement by Robert F. Kennedy or anybody else.
00:29:41.000They changed their language on the website to say, you know, our prior position on this, that the vaccines don't cause autism, that wasn't right.
00:29:56.000And that's what I've been encouraging.
00:29:58.000We sent this report to Robert F. Kennedy, all the public health officials in the United States, you know, on the day we released it.
00:30:05.000And the report has not been criticized by anybody in the medical community because it includes every single bit of scientific data that's evolved on this.
00:30:14.000The prior 29 studies that claimed there was no link to autism, this is astounding.
00:30:20.000And several, many of them come from what's called the Danish cohort study in Denmark.
00:30:24.000Those studies never examined the vaccine record of the child, never interviewed the parents, and never actually examined the child to see if they had autism.
00:30:35.000They were based on computer automated data.
00:30:38.000So the real live observation of a normal child getting a battery of vaccines and then being converted to autism, that came out in case series data, most of it since the CDC has actually made their original statements.
00:30:53.000So we think our report, you know, supported by lots of activism over the last 10 or 20 years by organizations like Children's Health Defense and recently World Council for Health in the UK and others.
00:31:05.000They played a role, but it was our evidence-based report that essentially forced the CDC to change their statements.
00:31:17.000So CNN now has completely turned against the CDC.
00:31:22.000They used to be in lockstep with one another during the pandemic.
00:31:28.000Yeah, well, there's points where I myself reach a threshold of fury that's difficult to maintain.
00:31:39.000And I suppose that's part of the challenge of operating in this space is being able to withstand the truth without going kind of crazy.
00:31:52.000When this was unfolding initially, Doctor, what I mean to say is when we were told, oh, there's an outbreak of a virus in Wuhan, China, are you able to now, with hindsight,
00:32:08.000at the end of 2025, to almost narrativize how that unfolded of what that was like for you as a person that had a degree of understanding of when you did you, for example, go, Wuhan, haven't they got that Institute of Virology there?
00:35:03.000The shortcoming is, certainly from my perspective, I wasn't paying attention.
00:35:08.000Now there are many books published on this that have pieced together the entire timeline.
00:35:13.000And bring it fast forward, Anthony Fauci, who's part of the co-conspiratorial team to create SARS-CoV-2, he gets a preemptive 10-year pardon.
00:35:24.000Almost certainly he requested that from Biden before Biden leaves his term.
00:35:28.00010 years of clemency for crimes that he knows he committed in the creation of SARS-CoV-2, in the fraudulent misrepresentation of what was going on to America, the suppression of early treatment and the promotion of the vaccines.
00:35:47.000And that combination led to a catastrophic loss of life.
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00:36:48.000It's not only that the events themselves are so staggering.
00:36:52.000It's when they are coupled with the way that this pandemic was initially rendered that I get a kind of almost visceral sense of vertigo.
00:37:04.000I kind of feel like overwhelmed because I'm remembering how Anthony Fauci was kind of packaged in this saintly manner and like how innocuous cultural artifacts like late night talk shows were participating.
00:37:22.000Then in my country, the UK, ghoulish condemnatory campaigns urging you to get vaccinated on a moral basis in much the way you described at the beginning of our conversation, has always been concommittant with vaccine ideology.
00:37:39.000That it's your responsibility as a participant and member of the whole the congregation, the community, to do this.
00:37:46.000And I actually, you know, when I think of Um Robert Kennedy's book The Real Anthony Fauci, I can remember reading parts of it because it's you know it's dense.
00:37:57.000It's a very good book but it's kind of dense and thinking this can't be true, it can't be true that he's involved in this anthrax Experimentation.
00:38:04.000It can't be true that HIV is somehow involved.
00:38:08.000There's been so many things that even I, who's somewhat open-minded to these ideas and sometimes to a fault, willing to accept anti-establishment ideas.
00:38:19.000I've like, now I've got a kind of appetite, doctor, to like, you know, when sort of people are talking about the Epstein files, I'm like, good, I hope this person is exposed.
00:38:28.000I hope this person is exposed because I'm now radicalized by my circumstance.
00:38:51.000So it's extraordinary to just look back at something that's so recent, even though time itself appears to be warping and bending because in a way, information is moving so quickly.
00:39:02.000How can we have an objective sense of time when data is being inundated, literally?
00:39:09.000So I wonder then if there can be ever, if there can ever be adequate reprisal.
00:39:15.000I mean, looking at your McCulloch Foundation report here on the determinants of autism spectrum disorder, a name that I'm familiar with here is Andrew Wakefield, who I met for the first time at their recent children's health defense event that we're both affiliated with.
00:39:32.000And I feel like Andrew Wakefield was more or less sort of called a paedophile and dragged through the streets and pelted with fruit and eggs.
00:39:40.000And like, isn't he, wasn't he just ahead of it and telling the truth?
00:39:45.000Do you know that every in every one of these examples in public health, the person who makes the seminal observation is not celebrated, is not bestowed awards.
00:40:00.000In fact, they're denigrated, castigated, and sometimes lose their life.
00:40:05.000I mean, a great example is Ignace Simmelweis, 1855.
00:40:10.000Simmelweiss does careful research and discovers that doctors are transmitting infections to pregnant women in maternity wards in Vienna by not washing their hands.
00:40:23.000They just transmit the bacteria from one woman to another.
00:40:28.000And he does studies showing if they wash their hands with chlorinated lime, the infection rates plummet.
00:40:34.000But instead of being celebrated, he's debarred, debunked.
00:40:42.000If it was modern day, his Twitter account would be taken away.
00:41:14.000He makes an observation that when children get the MMR vaccine, measles, mumps, and rubella, and that was a combination product, new one at the time, 1998, that some children get sick, they get a fever, they have changes actually in their GI tract, the lymph nodes are on the GI tract, and they convert to autism.
00:43:46.000You know, he took money from family members or he all kinds of untruths.
00:43:52.000And that's one of the problems with artificial intelligence is it's completely poisoned now by those who are programming artificial intelligence and how it portrays information.
00:44:05.000Like you, as you said, you put it into Google, which is just all you really want from Google is information.
00:44:12.000Andrew Wakefield is an English fraudster, anti-vaccine activist, and former senior surgeon.
00:44:19.000He was struck off the medical register.
00:44:23.000Like, you know, I wonder how long I have to scroll down.
00:44:26.000The MMR vaccine autism, refutation, retraction, PMC, means was moments of vaccine behavioral, the long read, doctor who fooled the world, Andrew Wakefield, British medical journal charges, fraud.
00:44:39.000In a way, you start to see how the machine works.
00:44:42.000It's very difficult for me not to be sort of personally affected by this because inadvertently I strolled into this territory myself just because I had a YouTube channel and that's the way that I work.
00:44:55.000And it's a kind of natural progression.
00:44:57.000If you work in media and you're competent at communicating, you realize that there's no requirement anymore for the brokerage of centralized systems, whether they're movie studios or TV organizations or production companies, particularly if someone like me, where stand-up comedy was always what was most expedient because that's the minimal brokerage.
00:45:21.000But as I'm sort of a moral man, I have to acknowledge that promiscuity by its nature is morally transgressive unless you are hedonic and decadent and living within a hedonic and decadent set of a value system.
00:45:36.000So, you know, what's been very difficult for me is acknowledging that promiscuity when you're a famous man and sleeping with 20 year olds, 25 year olds, you know, when I was 30, when I was younger, that's morally incorrect.
00:45:54.000But what happens is you can use the raw material of a promiscuous person who's like, you know, at the scale that I was operating at, been in lots of restrooms and bathrooms with strangers.
00:46:05.000You can mobilize and metastasize that if you've got an appetite very easily.
00:46:09.000And I bet the initial journalists involved in the reports that led to criminal investigations, which will lead to me standing trial.
00:46:17.000I bet these journalists are not thinking, let's destroy Russell Brand.
00:46:21.000He's a great guy, but, you know, we can do it.
00:46:23.000I bet they think they're doing great work.
00:46:29.000We can really do something worthwhile.
00:46:31.000In the same way that people that are attacking anyone who's in the crosshairs of the system just because they're inconvenient, just because the system's recalibrating itself.
00:46:41.000The fact is, is were it not for independent media, that entire pandemic period would be regarded differently.
00:46:47.000That 56% of Americans that now regard the vaccines as cynically, skeptically, dubiously, that is because of Joe Rogan.
00:47:01.000That's because of a whole new strata of media has gotten our hand because of the technology.
00:47:08.000And they can't get it back in the box fast enough.
00:47:11.000Indeed, I consider the kind of real arms race of our time, doctor, to be a kind of an information war.
00:47:18.000Wasn't Alex Jones perspicacious there with that title?
00:47:22.000Can they centralize control of information before too many people are turned off forever from these institutions?
00:47:30.000Like, look at that WHO treaty that included in it the ability for confiscatory tax, but also for the ability to censor.
00:47:41.000Something like that WHO treaty would have passed, may yet pass, but would have passed were it not for robust opposition that coming primarily out of independent media responding to experts like you that no longer are gatekept in the manner that they once were.
00:47:59.000And it's just interesting to watch the collateral damage, particularly for me because I'm part of it, like to just see how this thing just sort of spawned and got out of control and the countermeasures to retain control, what's included within it.
00:48:13.000Jay Bacharia being a great example, because when I sort of first spoke to Jay Bachario, he was like, like me in a kind of a state of bewilderment.
00:48:21.000And now there he is at the NIH or Marty McCari, now at the FDA.
00:48:25.000I mean, one of the things that I'm encouraged by, and I can sort of sense in your tone and timbre, doctor, that you're perhaps frustrated that Secretary Kennedy hasn't done more.
00:48:36.000For example, when you said to this day, they've not said the COVID vaccines explicitly don't take them.
00:48:42.000But you must have had enough interfacing yourself with these institutions of power to recognize why that is.
00:48:53.000Well, it sure is codified into law as people, as these individuals enter the government, if they break from the government narrative, they're on their own.
00:49:03.000They actually have to get their own lawyers and they can be accused and tried of all kinds of things.
00:49:09.000So they actually have to follow a government narrative.
00:49:11.000Now, Bhattachara and Macri were in my frequent contributor group at Fox.
00:50:58.000Independent media now is becoming very dominant.
00:51:04.000And this government aspiration of totalitarianism is falling apart.
00:51:11.000Remember the statement by Jacinda Ardern, former prime minister of New Zealand, during the pandemic, she said, there will be a single source of truth.
00:52:12.000Well, I hope you enjoyed that conversation.
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00:52:37.000My conscious won't let me go shoot my brother or some darker people or some poor, hungry people in the mud for big powerful America and shoot them for what?
00:53:27.000Muhammad Ali, as he demonstrated, become a great boxer, but he could have become almost a great anything.
00:53:32.000I suppose, like that other more contemporaneous great athlete, Michael Jordan.
00:53:38.000You get the idea that guy could have just sort of done anything.
00:53:41.000And I suppose why it's doubly exciting with Muhammad Ali is he stepped in to the public arena and was willing, I'll die here right now fighting you.
00:53:58.000My enemies are white people, not Vietnam or Chinese or Japanese.
00:54:02.000I mean, you're my opponent when I want freedom.
00:54:04.000You're my opponent when I want justice.
00:54:06.000In a way, what Muhammad Ali demonstrated there, although it might be difficult and uncomfortable to hear some of the racialized language and a racialized dispute broadcast in that way, was demonstrated the qualities of heroism which are inseparable from the qualities of Christianity, i.e., willing to die for what you believe in.
00:54:45.000And when you see Muhammad Ali doing it, you remember.
00:54:48.000You're reminded: hold on, we can be glorious.
00:54:51.000How have I allowed myself to be thresholded and curtailed by the low ceilings of a lowly culture?
00:54:58.000Malcolm X returned from Mecca transformed, breaking with rigid ideologies that previously defined him.
00:55:05.000And this is what I had to become aware of on my pilgrimage to Mecca.
00:55:08.000I could see then that there are many white people in this country who will side with the Negro in whatever he has to do to protect himself.
00:55:16.000But that's a considerable change of opinion in Malcolm X.
00:55:21.000Formerly, I spoke for Elijah Muhammad, and everything I said was, Elijah Muhammad teaches us thus and so.
00:55:28.000I'm speaking now from what I think, from what I have seen, from what I have analyzed, and the conclusions that I have reached.
00:55:34.000Then the white man is no longer the devil and he is no longer bound to be evil.
00:55:39.000If I judge a man by his conscious behavior, I am not a racist.
00:55:43.000I don't subscribe to any of the tenets of racism.
00:55:46.000Then there are good whites and good blacks and bad whites and blacks.
00:55:50.000It's not a case of being good and bad, good or bad, blacks and whites.
00:55:54.000It's a case of being good or bad human beings.
00:55:58.000When you watch Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X, it's striking that this country has chosen to follow the wrong leaders and to follow the wrong ideas.
00:56:32.000Robert Kennedy and John Kennedy were not perfect men.
00:56:38.000All of them, actually, it seems like there was pretty, you know, some interesting appetites went on with those guys.
00:56:44.000But what we've replaced greatness with is a kind of mass market of mediocrity, a kind of a deliberate, bureaucratized kind of ordinariness, ordinariness.
00:56:56.000If you kill the great people, I don't know, I don't know what you're going to get as a society.
00:57:03.000Bobby Kennedy, Sr., after the murder of his brother, recalibrated toward a moral clarity that made political calculation secondary.
00:57:11.000The whole of whether we are lowering the barriers with communism and on one side of the world, we're signing a proliferation treaty of control of atomic weapons in one part of the world and in another part of the world we're killing people because they're commonly.
00:57:28.000Sounds inconsistent and it is inconsistent.
00:57:30.000Or the whole question of, for instance, of drug.
00:57:55.000There is tremendous economic power behind those people, and so that we don't pass laws to deal with that, even though our Department of Health had said that they're so dangerous.
00:58:07.000Although there is this great wealth that I talked about, and yet there's great poverty.
00:58:14.000There are speeches made about the fact we're going to treat everybody equally, and yet we don't treat everybody equally.
00:58:19.000There's talks given and pronouncements made and laws written that everybody's going to have an opportunity to have a job and have decent housing.
00:58:27.000And yet 43% of the people that live in the city of New York and live in this city live in dilapidated and rundown housing and are bitten by that.
00:58:36.000And the poverty in rural areas is worse.
00:58:40.000So if we weren't sanctimonious about it, if we weren't hypocritical about it, and we didn't perhaps tell untruths about ourselves, then I think that's an safe to reality.
00:58:52.000Then I think our country would be much better off and our people would have much more confidence in those of us who are public officials and in our government as a whole.
00:59:02.000The individual breaking free from imposed scripts, refusing to play the role assigned by power structures.
00:59:08.000Green's move echoes that dangerous impulse, but in the hyper-mediated post-ideological terrain of modern politics, such departures are rarer and more destabilizing than ever.
00:59:20.000The modern moment amplifies the threat of such awakenings.
00:59:23.000Political labels are no longer merely slippery.
00:59:26.000They're instruments of conditioning, shaping not just what people think, but how they experience reality.
00:59:31.000The public consumes outrage as if it were sustenance, reinforcing the system's boundaries while the elite manipulate outcomes with impunity.
00:59:40.000Greens, stepping outside that system, is akin to the red pill in the matrix, a confrontation with the hidden forces of control, a refusal to participate in the illusion, a destabilization of narrative.
00:59:52.000In a world where obedience is rewarded and insight punished, such departures carry ominous potential.
00:59:58.000They remind us that the machinery is not only pervasive, it is fragile if challenged from within.