Russell Brand is joined by his on-screen assistant, Gareth Roy, to discuss matters such as Merc, suing to kill Medicare, and the WHO's new treaty allowing them to bypass the laws of the country you are in. Plus, we talk about how to smile, and why you don't need to do it just for other people to see it. And, of course, there's a bit of news about smiling too! Stay free, y'all. Stay free. And don't forget to like, subscribe and subscribe to Stay Free with Russell Brand on Apple Podcasts and wherever else you re listening to podcasts. This episode is brought to you by Pfizer and Rumble, the original home of free speech. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/sponsorships/StayFreeWithRussellBrand and use the promo code stayfree at checkout to receive 10% off your first purchase when you place an order of $10 or more. And if you like what you see on Stay Free With Russell Brand, please consider pledging a pledge of $5 or more by clicking here: bit.ly/stayfreewithrussellrandonalden and we'll be giving you 5% off the first month of your first month, plus a freebie when you sign up to stay free with us for the rest of the month. We're giving you a discount code: stayfreewithrussandrachel@pfizzee and a discount of $50 or more! when you leave us a review and get 5 stars! and get a discount on your first week of the offer starts next month, you'll get 10% of your ad discount, they'll get 5 VIP access to stayfree with us'll get a chance to win a VIP discount, and they'll also get 5% of the deal, too get 20% off of the whole deal, and get VIP access, too discount, too shout it! they'll have it for VIP access and get all the best of it too get the full service, too say what they're doing it starts next time, they get it too say it starts in the world, too do it, and there's an ad-only course, and you get 5-only discount, it'll get the whole place they'll be 5-choice, they also get it all-of-they-say it, they're also get all-they'll get it, too-much of the best place to rate your ad-free, and also get an entire place to review the whole thing, and other things will get a whole deal of free, plus they'll even get all of that, plus he'll get all that, and all they'll hear about it, plus the whole world will get the chance to watch him, and he'll also receive a discount, plus all that will be 5% discount and all that other things, plus some other stuff, and more, plus an ad free, and so much more.
00:00:47.000Thanks for joining us on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:49.000If you ain't been told yet today that you are loved, that you are complete, that you are beautiful, and that you are whole, and you're going in the right direction, then let us convey that very message to you right now, you beautiful Awakening Wanderer.
00:01:00.000Joining me for the show is my on-screen assistant, Gareth Roy, with whom I will be discussing matters such as Merc, suing to kill Medicare drug pricing.
00:01:09.000We'll be with you on YouTube for a while, we'll be there, maybe Twitter, are we on Twitter still?
00:01:14.000We don't know, you never know with Elon, do you? You never know what moves he might make.
00:01:38.000Uh, later on in our presentation, Here's the News, we'll be talking more about the WHO, where they get their money, and what exactly it is they're up to with this new treaty that they propose should be allowed to bypass the laws of the country you are in.
00:02:10.000Over in Japan, the Japanese folks got so used to wearing face masks during Covid that they've had to have smile lessons and I've had a look at this and they aren't doing very well.
00:02:21.000Like some of them are not entering into it in the right spirit.
00:02:24.000They're not even, because the problem was that they're wearing face masks and of course face masks, as you know Gareth, indefatigably are worth wearing.
00:02:38.000Face marks definitely work and we're not ultimately a sort of a symbol, an emblem that came to be a sort of a facial testimony to your political position, but in fact we're just a sort of a medical thing.
00:02:50.000Very good, I see what you've done there.
00:05:09.000In a class about how, right, now that you no longer need these masks and you've evidently somehow forgotten how to smile during this period of time, right, here's a mirror.
00:05:22.000Like, if it was- I don't know, if it was, like, football class, and you just sort of wouldn't put on the equipment... Well, look, the only other time that someone holds a mirror like that in front of me is if I go to the dentist.
00:05:32.000You know, they clean your mouth, and then there's loads of blood, and then they put the mirror there to be like, look, see what's happened!
00:06:06.000After years of keeping their faces partly covered, these students say classes like this are necessary to reawaken their awareness about facial expressions.
00:06:18.000It was a new experience for me to smile while paying attention to my facial expressions.
00:06:24.000I might become a bit more aware of what my facial expression looks like when I'm in a situation that makes me smile from now on.
00:06:32.000The grammar of facial expressions is regarded to be universal, but there are different facial expressions and different bits of body language.
00:09:27.000advise that you shut down your borders and you lock your population in their homes and they take certain medications, That will be binding advice.
00:09:36.000And I actually don't think advice should be binding under any circumstances.
00:09:40.000It should be a friendly offering at worst.
00:09:43.000Yeah, so this is something that we've spoken about regarding the UK, but now the US, Canada and France have expressed support for this as well.
00:09:51.000So it does seem like it's starting to have a kind of global Interest.
00:09:57.000I feel like that these WHO, WEF, World Bank, IMF, all these organizations are by their nature an attempt to create a global bureaucracy.
00:10:09.000I think beneath these institutions there are the funding processes.
00:10:14.000Some of them are national funding like i.e.
00:10:16.000five percent for in order to like five percent of our health treaty of our health budgets will go to supporting this treaty in the necessary measures but Also, they receive a great deal of money, as you know, from philanthropic so-called organizations like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
00:10:31.000Now, let me know in the chat if you think this is a significant strata of power.
00:10:36.000Look at the level of influence that we're discussing.
00:10:38.000The WHO is not democratically elected.
00:10:41.000They're going to be able to pass, essentially, laws.
00:11:10.000I know you've always cared about I don't want to get a strike!
00:11:14.000I know, I know, we don't, we won't do that.
00:11:16.000So member states will be obliged to follow the agency's instructions when responding to pandemics including introducing vaccine passports, border closures and quarantine measures under the draft regulations.
00:11:26.000So that's quite, that's a lot of power you could say.
00:11:48.000But we want to talk about how global or continental bureaucracies are used to utilize corporate profit and bypass systems of democratic power.
00:11:57.000And we're going to speculate now in ways that are potentially risky, aren't they Gal?
00:12:03.000Because they're not entirely undergirded by facts.
00:12:06.000So if you're watching us on YouTube right now, I want you to look at the link in the description, click over, join us on Rumble because I simply can't say this to you, the 6.5, nearly 6.5 million awakening wonders.
00:12:42.000That during the pandemic, when vaccine passports came in, And we were told, these won't be, this is just for the pandemic, they won't be, you know, turned into like an everyday thing, that's not, that's not what we're doing, it's just for this.
00:12:54.000And again, this now seems to be coming true, that vaccine passports will be now used to form this global digital health certificates.
00:13:02.000In other words, digitising your health in order that, I guess critics could say, you can be spied on by your government.
00:13:08.000And denied certain things, as you were during the pandemic with us.
00:13:12.000We could show some of our content from 2020.
00:13:17.000And I bet we're saying, oh, it's all well and good passing these regulations and allowing these temporary measures, but the concern would be that they continue to deploy them.
00:13:26.000Also, it looks like there's relationships between the EU and vaccine manufacturers, primarily in the form of, what's her name?
00:13:33.000Ursula von der Leyen, with her villainous name.
00:13:51.000Now of course in this country, the United Kingdom we're in, we Brexited ourselves right out of Europe and that was widely regarded as a symbol of sort of, I don't know, racism, troglodytism, foolishness.
00:14:05.000And of course there's been an astonishing economic downturn in the subsequent period.
00:14:10.000But I feel that people want to be able to control their own lives to such a degree that
00:14:16.000even symbolic opportunities to exit economic and bureaucratic entities like the EU that
00:14:23.000are non-representative and plainly have interesting relationships with pharmaceutical companies,
00:14:29.000big tech, big corporations, look to impose measures that could look like social credit
00:14:36.000gateways to things like social credit scores.
00:14:40.000I can understand why the EU is viewed with cynicism.
00:14:43.000I guess look in the same way that people talk about CBDCs as like digital money that I think is going on in China at the moment, that you're kind of having expiry dates of when you can spend money.
00:14:55.000You already mentioned the kind of social credit score element of what goes on in China at the moment.
00:14:59.000Essentially, the more and more of our lives that become digitized, the more and more that the powerful have control over that information, the more and more ability they have to decide what we can do, where we can go, what we can spend our money on.
00:15:11.000And it is, it has lived in the realm of the conspiracy, and it's something that people early on in the pandemic were saying, but it does seem like we're moving in that direction.
00:15:21.000Yeah, especially in a world where, you know, Elon, who we love, who's hopefully coming on the phone.
00:15:25.000Oh, I guess, I mean, we've got to get Elon on the show soon, don't we?
00:15:51.000So, like, what you don't want is a digital dystopia in which your freedom is endlessly diminished and we're ushered into a black crack Mirror World without due process, when we're losing contact with deep emotional truths, where nearly half of all men think about ending their own lives, where there's a deep suspicion in institutions, where half of us don't believe in God, and barely any of us believe in the government, where none of us trust the media.
00:16:16.000We don't want to turn ourselves into little blocks of data that are ushered about by regulations that you never voted for.
00:16:24.000Apparently 20% of vaccines will be controlled by the WHO.
00:16:31.000So they're going to have the ability to regulate and control us.
00:16:42.000Yeah so basically yeah so I mean this is in this form is one of the issues that we had during the pandemic in terms of kind of pro-vaccine thing was that vaccines weren't spread distributed equally to nations.
00:16:55.000That's right nations that couldn't afford them because obviously the vaccine makers what they wanted to do was to stop the pandemic that's obviously was their main aim here.
00:17:02.000That's why we're giving them to everyone, except for people that we can't make money from.
00:17:06.000Hold on then, isn't it at least part of the reason to get money?
00:17:08.000No, it would be unconscionable, Albert Baller, to make a profit from this product.
00:17:38.000Let us know in the chat, in the comments, if you think that this kind of legislation, imposed by unelected bureaucracies, that are funded by ultimately private interests, albeit in the guise of philanthropic organisations, does that leave us open to undue influence?
00:17:55.000Is it potentially something that could be corrupt?
00:17:58.000Particularly when you couple it, and it can't be decoupled from The ability for the WHO to regulate, to bypass national sovereignty.
00:18:06.000As more and more, it's becoming plain that democracy is irrelevant.
00:18:10.000Don't you want more power in your own life?
00:18:20.000And the new order that we're continually told is the territory of the crackpot.
00:18:24.000Yeah, I kind of think, you know, this again, this does get mixed in with the kind of conspiracy right wing angle.
00:18:30.000And yet, I think there are loads of people on the left who recognize that privacy is a very important thing.
00:18:36.000And that when it's things like Facebook selling our data, Or any other kind of big tech having access to our data.
00:18:43.000It's very much viewed in kind of, oh no, that's a view of the left that we can get behind.
00:18:47.000But when it relates to something like the WHO, suddenly it becomes a kind of right-wing talking.
00:18:51.000That's why it's important we have people like Cornel West on here, who exclusively announced his candidature.
00:18:58.000For the presidency, because he's attacking the same institutions, the same system, and the same corruption from the left.
00:19:04.000And a figure like Robert F. Kennedy, who's obviously been smeared as an anti-vaxxer, is a member of the Democrat party and is running for the leadership of the Democrat party.
00:19:14.000It's a very narrow trail that you can operate in without being a right-wing conspiracy theorist or a nutjob and crackpot.
00:19:22.000I think privacy is essentially, is that you can't say privacy surely is a right-wing thing or a left-wing thing.
00:19:29.000Privacy should be something we all care about equally.
00:19:32.000Yeah, it's an important part of personal integrity and freedom.
00:19:35.000The construction of these arguments and critiques reminds me of a phrase attributed to me, though I'm not entirely sure that I said it, that when I was poor and talked about inequality, they said I was jealous Well, I hope you remember the sin things I actually said.
00:20:18.000If you're, like, if you, either you're right-wing, or you're, it's just simply, look, you're only allowed to say these things.
00:20:25.000These are things, like, someone like Cornel West is clearly interested in racial equality, economic equality, he's got no axe to grind when it comes to identity, so you can't get him with any of that.
00:20:35.000It's similar to Vandana Shiva, who's more outspoken on the nefarious influence of Bill Gates than anyone that I've ever met, and it's She just has to be ignored and shut down because you can't really, because of her academic credentials and her ability as an orator, as well as the fact that she's an Indian woman, talking about the colonial and imperial impact of corporate forces on her country, which she regards as being no different from the negative impact of the British Empire on her country.
00:21:08.000That's why, if you are a person, and you're very welcome here, and we absolutely bloody well love you, the super, inter, MAGA or whatever, start thinking about the kind of alliances that you might afford, because no lesser person than Ben Shapiro said that he would be willing to form alliances with people from BLM and the trans movement in order to have more localised democracy.
00:21:27.000Without localised power, you're not going to get anything.
00:21:29.000What kind of systemic change do you think we're discussing here?
00:21:33.000We, above all else on Rumble, believe in free speech.
00:21:36.000And where there's freedom and speech, you get free speech.
00:21:39.000And where there's free speech, you get freech.
00:22:59.000But even if you looked in the very cleft of his bottom, between the taint, between the nutsack and the bum crack, the perineum itself, beautiful.
00:25:16.000I'd like to see Boris Yeltsin dancing like that, I'd like to see Trump's dance, and I'd like to see, all the while, in the background, De Santis licking pudding off his fingers.
00:29:25.000I can't stop membering it in my mind from when it happened.
00:29:30.000OK, listen, we've told you enough about the WHO, but if it wasn't enough, here's more.
00:29:34.000The WHO's new powers, if this treaty gets passed, will enable it to enforce border closures, bang you up in your little hovels and houses and homes, and inject you to within an inch of your life at a moment's notice.
00:30:15.000We are talking today about the WHO's new proposal that they have the ability to impose on your country, wherever you are in the world, because it's the World Health Organization.
00:30:25.000The World Health Organization wants to be able to impose certain restrictions.
00:30:29.000So how did the World Health Organization even get their money and their legitimacy?
00:30:44.000I mean, presumably part of it is really helping people and providing medicines.
00:30:48.000But one way of working out what the intention of an organization is, is looking at where they get their money from under the assumption that people won't give them money if that organization is not going to be advantageous to the economic ends preferred by the donor.
00:31:02.000Let me know in the chat and the comments.
00:31:03.000So firstly, we'll talk about the WHO and where they get their money.
00:31:06.000Then we'll talk about the legitimacy of this new proposal that they're able to impose on your country, and therefore you, regulations that you didn't vote for.
00:31:14.000Let's have a listen to Margaret Chan, former director of the WHO, explaining how it's funded.
00:31:22.000If I tell you, WHO as an organisation, only 30% of my budget I mean, how far into this video are we going to get without saying, it's Bill Gates!
00:31:34.000In the end, Bill Gates is going to turn up, isn't he, with some money?
00:31:37.000But let's let Margaret Chan have her moment.
00:32:03.000That's how we've always understood the relationships between organizations like the WHO, various national governments, and the corporate world to be.
00:32:08.000That money is funneled in, expectations are funneled out.
00:32:30.000They're just doing stuff because of their love of mankind or humankind, right?
00:32:33.000Over the years, the billionaire philanthropists have become the WHO's second biggest donor, making their health agency heavily dependent on their support to keep functioning.
00:32:42.000As Margaret Chan said, they have to go round with their hat out and these people have preferences.
00:32:47.000I wonder what the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation's preference is.
00:32:51.000Global health experts say that while this money is welcome, it gives the Gates and outsized influence and underscores the chronic funding problem the WHO faces, even as it contends with more and more health crises.
00:33:02.000Over 80% of the WHO's funding relies on voluntary contributions, meaning any amount of money given freely by donors, whether member states, NGOs, philanthropic organizations, or other private entities.
00:33:12.000The voluntary contributions are typically earmarked for specific projects or diseases, meaning the WHO cannot freely decide how to use them.
00:33:20.000I mean, that means their whole legitimacy, or at least 80% of the legitimacy of the organisation, is up for question.
00:33:26.00080% of their funding comes from people or organisations, as it just listed, that say, you can have this money if you agree to...
00:33:32.000And we can all fill that in depending on how much we've educated ourselves of the events of the last couple of years, the involvement of the pharmaceutical industry in various health crises, not just the obvious one over the last few years, but the continent of Africa has had all sorts of peculiar stuff inflicted upon it, as well as the nation of India.
00:33:49.000This is an ongoing problem that merely became concentrated and some would say more visible and perhaps even relevant during the pandemic because it affected everybody in ways that became observable, if not reliable.
00:33:59.000The WHO has had to do the bidding of rich donors, not only rich nations in Europe and North America, but also rich philanthropies such as the Gates Foundation, said global health expert Lawrence Gostin.
00:34:10.000Kelly Lee, a professor of public health at Simon Fraser University, who authored a book about the WHO, said, the sheer size of the funds from the Gates Foundation compromises the WHO's independence.
00:34:21.000Whether it's political parties being funded by the donations of corporations and billionaires, or the WHO being funded by billionaires and corporations and philanthropic organisations that many people say are about tax breaks actually and influence and power, shows you that these organisations If you use this platform, YouTube, did you know that YouTube and Google accept the WHO's regulations and recommendations when it comes to things that can be said on this platform?
00:35:13.000plays the piper, plays the tune, as the old saying goes, she said. Nice.
00:35:17.000There are important questions to be raised about good governance, including the accountability,
00:35:21.000representativeness and legitimacy of having a single foundation be so influential. The
00:35:25.000current system is frankly undemocratic. And yet democracy is the word that people continually
00:35:30.000use when reifying our civilisations, particularly in contrast with some of the civilisations
00:35:35.000that we should be bombing or attacking or otherwise destabilising and usurping and replacing.
00:35:40.000So let's have a look at the WHO's current agenda to impose a treaty that would mean that you would have no control over whether your borders were locked down, certain medications might be made mandatory or the carrying of passports.
00:35:53.000Lockdown measures could be imposed on the UK by the World Health Organization during a future pandemic under sweeping new powers.
00:35:59.000Member states will be obliged to follow the agency's instructions when responding to pandemics, including by introducing vaccine passports, border closures and quarantine measures under a draft update to its regulations.
00:36:10.000Now we have to go around the world as well with our handout begging for money from all sorts of people.
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00:38:00.000Some ministers are understood to be alarmed by plans to increase the WHO's powers, enabling its governing body to require countries to hand over the recipe of vaccines regardless of intellectual property rights and to counter misinformation.
00:38:12.000Do you notice that increasingly we are being invited to not trust one another, to loathe one another, to engage continually in conflagration, to believe that people are sort of stupid and ugly and untrustworthy and And that there is a cadre of experts, a technocratic level of government that we should all be yielding to.
00:38:31.000If you believe in yourself, your ability to run your own life, to run your own community, to make your own decisions, why would you participate in the funding of an organisation that clearly has strong relationships with corporate interests that require a profit that they can get by imposing certain regulations?
00:38:46.000Why would we even participate in systems like that?
00:38:49.000Let me know in the chat and the comments.
00:38:50.000And notice that there's a dimension to this that's about social dynamics, about spirituality, about personal awakening, about the necessity to have a population that is ridden with fear and doubt and alert to conflict and totally mistrustful of other people.
00:39:04.000If you felt that you could trust yourself, if you felt that you could trust other people, if you felt that you could run your own life in your own community, why would you need these organizations?
00:39:12.000And of course, I know that WHO have participated in, I imagine, all sorts of beneficial programs that have alleviated all sorts of tensions.
00:39:18.000And in fact, if you're going to have a global body, it should be funded very responsibly and it should be democratic.
00:39:23.000These are just the sort of things that people say, aren't they?
00:40:17.000In their letter, seen by the Telegraph, they urge the Foreign Office to block powers that appear to intrude materially into the UK's ability to make its own rules and control its own budgets.
00:40:26.000You can see why there's a rise in nationalism when things like this are happening.
00:40:29.000That nationalism, to some degree, is a response to feeling invaded.
00:40:33.000My personal belief is that these decisions should have nothing to do with racial, religious, gender or sexual identity, but the idea that power is elsewhere and being imposed on you should be rejected by every independent-minded, community-oriented individual on our planet.
00:40:48.000The rule changes have been proposed as part of plans to update the WHO's international health regulations in light of the coronavirus pandemic and establish a new pandemic preparedness treaty.
00:40:58.000One of the things that troubled me most about the pandemic period was the lack of communication, transparency, the surveillance, the censorship, the opportunism and the ineptitude of many of the bodies, organizations and individuals that are in positions of power.
00:41:12.000How do you feel about granting more power to those interests?
00:41:16.000The treaty was first proposed by world leaders including Boris Johnson in 2021 during the pandemic and was originally designed to improve alert systems, data sharing and the production of vaccines to foster an all-of-government and all-of-society approach.
00:41:29.000Yeah, that sounds terrifying and the people involved are people like Boris Johnson, which is the last thing any of us want.
00:41:37.000Even Boris Johnson doesn't trust Boris Johnson.
00:41:40.000But among 300 proposed amendments to the IHRS are changes to make the WHO's advice binding.
00:42:27.000Well, I think I'm going to start binding!
00:42:29.000The plan would require member countries to recognise the WHO as the guidance and coordinating authority of international public health response and undertake to follow the WHO's recommendations in their international public health response.
00:42:40.000If passed, the change would mean the WHO could enforce border closures, quarantine measures and vaccine passports on all member countries, including the UK.
00:42:48.000So that means they've got the right to lock you up in your house.
00:43:11.000They're using bureaucracy and health and safety to legitimise new forms of tyranny that are presenting themselves as all kind of friendly and here to help.
00:43:20.000And if you attack them, they say you're a conspiracy theorist or have got some atavistic throwback nationalistic ideology that don't belong in today's modern world.
00:43:28.000But actually, This is the tyranny now.
00:43:30.000Always the conversations about despots and despotism use the semiotics and image systems of the most recent examples of tyranny and despotism.
00:43:42.000In a more technologically advanced version of events, in a more media-savvy, data-oriented tyranny, Everything will be like a kind of soft sell.
00:43:53.000They'll be just, oh, hi, do you want some help with your... Yeah, we've just got to do... And before you know it, you're locked in your house with a passport and unable to go anywhere.
00:44:05.000Yeah, but we're doing it for a reason.
00:44:07.000Despots always do what they do for a reason.
00:44:11.000A draft of the treaty itself would commit member states to spending 5% of their health budgets plus a proportion of GDP to pandemic preparedness.
00:45:00.000Hopefully though, the WHO have a good track record and that this mad, egotistical, narcissistic demand for authority is based on experience.
00:45:10.000It's like LeBron James saying, I'll be in charge of basketball because I'm the best at it.
00:45:15.000This is particularly worrying when you consider the WHO's poor track record on providing consistent, clear and scientifically sound advice for managing international disease outbreaks.
00:45:24.000That's like me taking control of basketball.
00:45:31.000That is the bare minimum for an organisation calling itself the World Health Organisation.
00:45:37.000Campaigners also expressed concerns about increasing the WHO's role in identifying misinformation, after its experts dismissed the lab-leak Covid origin theory, only to later accept it remains on the table.
00:45:49.000Yes, it does remain on the table, because it's not been wiped down properly, like the Wuhan lab itself.
00:45:53.000Molly Kingsley, co-founder of the Us For Them campaign group, said we should all be concerned about the WHO being ordained as an arbiter of pandemic truth, especially given its poor record during the pandemic.
00:46:04.000Such is its claim that COVID was definitely zoonotic in origin and its April 2020 denial of the role of natural immunity in protecting against infection.
00:46:13.000I wonder if what Margaret Chan said about the way that it's funded and those two errors have any kind of relationship with one another.
00:46:20.000Who could ever possibly work that out?
00:46:33.000You're not intelligent enough to make choices for yourself.
00:46:35.000You're not part of the limitless oneness that underwrites all reality.
00:46:38.000You're not You're not capable of remetabolizing yourself into glory.
00:46:42.000You're not capable of putting your past behind you and moving forward into a glorious new future based on love, pragmatism, rationalism, democracy, sharing, overcoming former prejudices and errors in order to create a better new world based on the technological advances and spiritual awakening that we are currently undergoing.
00:47:26.000And what a day it is to be a football fan, and what a time it is to be a West Ham United fan.
00:47:40.000We are recording this yesterday, so at this point I already will know the results of West Ham's historic match against Fiorentina in the Europa Conference League final.
00:47:54.000And this happened because we held a lovely West Ham United party and Eva, It was a magnificent and historic night and West Ham rightly triumphed against Fiorentina.
00:48:06.000Or it was a night of corruption, historic transgressions, bribed officials.
00:48:13.000What's it like being future you at the moment?
00:48:17.000Future me is so awakened, so evolved, and let's face it, so bloody sexy.
00:48:23.000How do you feel about past you, at this point?
00:48:25.000I don't even recognise that idiot anymore, the stuff that he stood for.
00:48:29.000But what I thought was weird is you at that party, taking your top off, as a whole fan, to celebrate or commiserate so strongly, even to take off your top because you were so happy, the West End one, or take off your top in rage!
00:51:49.000And did you see him, have you seen him do stuff and hear him talk and stuff?
00:51:52.000Yeah, it's lovely hearing him talk, because it's like watching, I know this is going to sound awful, but it's like watching someone like Alf Ramsey off Hoe and Away or something, there's a reference.
00:52:00.000If you thought us talking about football on this platform where our audience is primarily American was negligent, Let's hear some of Gareth's insights on the cast of Home and Away in the late 80s.
00:52:13.000They've just got a different kind of tone about them.
00:52:44.000They had about 75% possession over the SPL season.
00:52:49.000And even in their games in Europe, in which they lost every game in the group stages of Champions League, apparently they play in an encouraging way.
00:52:57.000And you know when people break down data, like, they, you know, expected goals and all that sort of stuff?
00:53:02.000Like, and then it's, you know, reality is different from the prediction of reality, which was what makes this a difficult episode of the show.
00:53:08.000He's like, like, his teams do better than expected.
00:53:11.000Like, so the assumption is, is if he gets to work with the players at Tottenham, he's gonna create results.
00:55:04.000He's done enough for Spurs, and he's done enough for England, and I think he deserves... I know he's obviously made a lot of money, but he deserves to win something, surely.
00:55:10.000If he goes to Manchester United, he's still not going to win anything anyway, so what's the point?
00:55:14.000He's not going to win the league, honestly, is he?
00:55:16.000He's not going to win the league, he's not going to win the Champions League.
00:55:39.000That it creates community, togetherness, fun, humour, buoyancy.
00:55:44.000But sometimes football obviously creates a lot of Madness and intensity.
00:55:50.000This, I think, is an interesting and somewhat embarrassing story because David Beckham, perhaps still maybe the biggest football brand, maybe you could say, has employed his former Class 92 mate, Phil Neville, to run Inter Miami.
00:56:57.000Posta Coglou's in charge now, he wants a high press, he wants inverted wing-backs, making sure you get possession right out of the field, didn't we?
00:57:49.000But you're calling your club Inter Miami.
00:57:52.000That's a gangster move, because I reckon it's to get the Latin population involved and to evoke the image of Inter Milan.
00:57:59.000Yeah, I mean, that decision's not come from their past, has it?
00:58:03.000It's just like, what's the best name that we can come up with that, as you say, will work for us, kind of, financially, I guess?
00:58:08.000You would never call them the Miami Wanderers.
00:58:11.000We wander around Miami trying our best at life.
00:58:15.000Although Phil Neville, until recently, the manager, the coach of Inter Miami, he would do better with a team like that because he looks like someone from the 1950s.
01:02:56.000I think we're doing pretty well at Stay Free Media.
01:02:59.000It's obviously risky to talk about football in the middle of a show that's mainly for an American audience, but... The thing that I'd say about... Gareth!
01:04:11.000Don't needlessly swear in front of a brand that's named itself after a particularly religious branch of Christianity, and don't then forget what you were going to say.
01:05:26.000He's got that hotel where they didn't put on enough, when I say enough, any fanfare for my arrival when I stayed at it that time with a fantasy that I developed on the journey to the hotel that it would happen.
01:05:36.000That's the one blemish, though, on his CV.
01:05:39.000Otherwise, perfect, except maybe that game against Everton towards the end of his career where he sort of played a bit too long.
01:08:47.000So that is organized by sort of men in recovery, which, listen, just to give us sort of an overview without blowing anyone's cover, is it's like includes sort of men that are sort of quite hard and that have been inside.
01:10:36.000I realize now that I don't like to be in situations where I'm incompetent because I don't like that feeling.
01:10:43.000I don't like the feeling of exposed... I don't like being exposed to my incompetence and ineptitude and total lack of power.
01:10:52.000Even though, ultimately, that is the deepest reality there is, universally.
01:10:56.000It's a total lack of power in everything that's meaningful, like, you know, the affairs of the heart, the inevitability of death, the inability to prevent serious things happening in your life.
01:13:26.000But like Michael Ball, anyway, he got glandular fever.
01:13:28.000He had to take a bunch of time off and he got nervous.
01:13:30.000He thought, I can't do show business anymore, it's too nerve-wracking.
01:13:32.000Then he did do a performance that was on ITV and he said he watched it back and he said he couldn't tell at all that he was nervous from watching it.
01:13:38.000Oh, it's meaningless. No point being nervous.
01:13:40.000And it made him better. He sort of tricked himself into not worrying anymore.
01:14:01.000Anyway, I did some tapping, and Nick Ortner, a Spurs fan, an Argentina fan, said, like, um, like he does tapping, on Tapping Solutions, like, he goes, what are you trying to achieve with this?
01:14:12.000Because, you know, you're not trying to be a footballer.
01:14:14.000Same as, like, you know, say I do Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
01:14:16.000I'm, like, at that, I'm at an appropriate level of effort.
01:14:23.000Um, but like it doesn't for me have the same cultural weight and impact and it's not so infused with personal wounding and meaning.
01:14:32.000I think what it meant to us as young, I don't know, teenagers or even before that, I remember being at primary school and not being good at football and it was my entire identity and it defined my progression through primary school hugely to a point where I thought by the time I start secondary school I'm going to be Better at football and I'm going to know about football because I thought that's my way through school.
01:16:17.000Also, I think that, you know, getting used to the group and all those kind of things, it will become more about looking forward to participating than, like, being anxious about how you're going to perform.
01:16:31.000Keep on going, because you have to continue to progress yourself in numerous ways in this life, or do you?
01:16:37.000This is a fantastic little football story.
01:16:40.000Napoli won Serie A after 33 years and like a couple of years ago when they didn't win Serie A, the notorious Napoli ultras, that means the sort of football fan contingency that are, in English football, a football hooligan is a sort of a bloke down a pub, right?
01:16:58.000That's what they sort of basically are.
01:17:00.000Like, you know, they've not got a secondary identity, you know, maybe they work in a trade, or what about sometimes you're surprised why they work in a city, or something like that, you know, like they work in finance.
01:17:13.000But in the Napoli Ultras, it's like actually that bit of their identity is backed by, I would suggest from the aesthetics of this video, Criminality.
01:17:27.000And given that it's in the south of Italy, and I don't want to do any racial profiling here, but I feel like that the Cosa Nostra has a relatively strong presence in the region.
01:17:36.000Seems like what's backing up the... It's not like, oh, then we'll drop down the booze hour to have a pint and a pie and a bit of a tear up.
01:17:44.000It's a bit more like what they actually have is a sort of membership of a sort of a criminal organization. Yeah, and the ultras are like, I
01:17:51.000mean, they're a big part of the crowd, they like have their own section.
01:17:55.000Yeah, this is the bit where the ultras are. Yeah, I mean, it comes across that way. I don't know.
01:18:01.000Where the ultras? Yeah, it's a big part of Italian football, the ultras still.
01:18:06.000Yeah, I know, because like, there's this thing where Paolo, like, where West Ham fans went to see Paolo De Canio in
01:18:11.000Rome, I think, and the ultras, like, picked him up, and like, they've
01:18:15.000taken him around and picked up some of the West Ham sort of fans, and like, was he, like,
01:18:18.000In English football, it's like the Hooligan fraternity might be a firm, like the ICF or the Chelsea Headhunters or whatever.
01:18:26.000And, but it all seems somewhat less formal than this.
01:18:29.000And a couple of years ago, when Napoli didn't win Serie A, they broke into the manager's car, which I think is a Fiat 500, nicked his CDs, which was a bit weird, even a couple of years ago, he still had CDs.
01:18:43.000And they nicked his steering wheel, and now because he's won, he was a Fiat Panda, now because he's won Serie A, they said he could have it back.
01:18:49.000And they bought it back for him in a ceremony, and here it is.
01:18:52.000Look at the ultras though, look how they're dressed and everything, it's pretty mental.
01:18:55.000It's pretty mad they're still in Balaclava.
01:19:17.000And also it's quite funny that like they kept it so it's sort of almost done in good humor even
01:19:22.000then but it was an actual break into a car. Yeah. It's weird that. Really weird. That is culturally
01:19:27.000fascinating and I don't think it's that bad. It's...
01:20:23.000Well, it's sort of like that with the ultras, it appears.
01:20:27.000They've got this tradition where they'll break in your car, nick some of your stuff, as a sort to incentivise you to perhaps win Serie A within the next couple of years.
01:21:36.000Yeah, that it feels, almost because of the imagery that you, you know, remember from the time, that it kind of Harks back to that and you kind of feel awkward summit and
01:21:44.000the ultra presence is there definitely I know your experiences in watching Italian football. I
01:21:49.000mean a lot look I love gonna watch Italian football, but yeah, it's different
01:21:52.000I would say it's different to the Premier League. Oh, I got different. Well, what about with Luton? That's gonna be
01:21:56.000good There you go. That's gonna spice up our lives a little bit
01:22:00.000of Luton in the Premier League. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it
01:22:31.000I did all my predictions before the games happened.
01:22:36.000That's really the only thing a prediction requires, isn't it?
01:22:40.000The only time a prediction becomes less valid is when you make it after an event.
01:22:44.000Like now, when West Ham have either already won or lost their conference to Fiorentina, or against them.
01:22:54.000Quick prediction for Man City in Milan.
01:22:56.000It's impossible to conceive of anything other ...than a thrusting, priapic, mighty, red-cocked Haaland sort of smashing, pillorying through them, battering down Inter Milan.
01:25:49.000And there's other bits where I talk about Alfred Russell Wallace, the co-founder, the co-establisher of the theory of evolution, a contemporary of Darwin.