Every time a popular movement emerges, it is discredited. Why? Why does this happen? Why is it that every time a new popular movement arises, it s discredited? What is this tendency towards divide and conquer? On today's show, we talk to Stella Assange and Dr. Rhonda Patrick about why everyone is talking about Julian Assange again. We also look at Boris Johnson and Gavin Newsom partying without a mask, and why does that happen? And what does it have to do with the Silicon Valley bank collapse? And why does it matter if you're not a member of our local community, yet you can participate in this conversation? Because we believe that a new movement is emerging that needs to communicate and participate in the conversation, because we can t be left out of the conversation. We'll be there on Rumble, giving you a taste of what's to come on the show, so get out there and get involved in the movement! You're going to see the future, and in this video you'll get a sneak peak of the future! In this video, you'll also get a chance to get involved and join the RUMBLE Revolution! You'll get access to the whole show only available on Rumble. You won't want to miss it! - Gareth - R.V.I.E.S.W. (Rumble Revolution) - Gareth Can you believe it? - Rumble Revolution? - R-V-I-E-S-U-R-V? - You're Going to See The Future? - Run, D-VV-E? - Fight! - You'll See the Future? Oh, Oh, You're Gonna See the future? In This Video, You'll Be There on Rumble? R-RUMBLE? - This is the future you're Going To Be? - In This Episode: You'll Hear the Future You'll Have The Future You're gonna See The Real Thing? On Rumble? - The Rise of the Future?! - This Is The Future We'll Be Here On Rumble, You Will Be Here? (featuring StellaAssignment, Dr. Dr. Ronda Patrick Patrick, Will Will Tucker Tucker Tucker, Will Who's That's That, Will, Will? ) - Dr. Will Will? - Will Will Who s That? , Dr Rhonda Pippen, Will Whaley, Will Won Won What Will Be There?
00:01:36.0001 million Awakening Wonders here on Rumble.
00:01:38.000Thank you for joining us, and if you're one of the 6.3 million on YouTube, the whole show will only be available on Rumble, and populism is one of the things we are discussing today.
00:01:48.000How come every time a popular movement emerges it is discredited. What is this tendency
00:02:20.000She's coming in on here to talk about Julian Assange and why everyone is talking about Julian Assange again and when I say everyone I mean independent thinkers, independent journalists, people that are interested in freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of information.
00:02:33.000Why has Julian Assange's name suddenly returned to the lips of people interested in freedom and why won't the mainstream discuss him?
00:03:02.000Did you pandemic us so hard we couldn't go out of our houses?
00:03:06.000Did you pandemic us right in the small business?
00:03:09.000Did you pandemic us, Raccoon Dog, right in the wealth transfer?
00:03:13.000We're also going to look at that fantastic meet and greet moment where you see what happens when the highest paid public servant in the world meets The public.
00:03:26.000And also, when an accredited scientist has a conversation about science with an ordinary member of the public, it's extraordinary to see.
00:03:33.000This is one of my favourite things I've seen for a long while.
00:03:36.000But we're going to start now with our other hero of the pandemic, Boris Johnson, who during the pandemic was partying like it was one 2019 still, the early part of it.
00:03:49.000Of course, Boris Johnson famously claimed that he didn't go to any parties.
00:03:52.000Then when pressed, he said he did go to some parties, but when he was at them, he didn't know that they were parties that he was at.
00:03:58.000Now his most senior advisor has revealed that he must have known that he was at a party.
00:04:04.000Johnson knew Garden Event was a party because because I told him," said Dominic Cummings.
00:04:09.000And if you can't relate to that because you're an American person,
00:04:12.000don't feel left out because Gavin Newsom was also caught without a mask, a maskless party.
00:04:18.000Although you know those guys go to parties with masks as well.
00:04:32.000It's interesting because all of these members of elite organisations, old Etonians posing in government, Gavin Newsom partying without a mask while telling you that you have to do that, are still benefiting from their Inside Connections.
00:04:48.000Gavin Newsom recently applauded the response to the Silicon Valley bank collapse, saying, you know, that's the right thing to do, without revealing the quarter of a million dollars in there!
00:05:02.000Isn't that just like an establishment figure to praise the actions of the government, claiming he supports their ideals, in this case when he is literally Financially invested in the venture.
00:05:13.000At least three of the California governor's wine companies are held by SVB and a bank president sits on the board of his wife's charity.
00:05:21.000California governor Gavin Newsom praised the Biden administration's decision to intervene on behalf of Silicon Valley bank clients.
00:05:27.000He didn't reveal that they held $250,000 in deposits in that same bank.
00:05:53.000It's another case of do as I say, not as I do.
00:05:57.000If you're not a member of our locals community yet, join it right now.
00:05:59.000Then you can communicate and participate in this conversation.
00:06:03.000Because what we believe is that a new movement is being born before our very eyes.
00:06:08.000As we all witness the end of the old order, as we witness the establishment floundering, unable now to control our ability to communicate, doubling down on smearing dissenters, surveillance and censorship, there is a new populism emerging.
00:06:23.000Donald Trump, of course, is one of the Figures of populism who many people disagree with on many, many issues.
00:06:29.000But I know loads of you love him and he's still awaiting arrest.
00:06:34.000He represents a certain type of energy and an emergent new political force that may yet be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
00:06:43.000Because if you look now for a moment, To politics in the Netherlands, the politics of Holland, the farm protest movement has just won parliamentary seats.
00:06:53.000Like the farm protests that we've talked about a lot on this show with Vandana Shiva.
00:06:56.000We've talked about the farm protests in Sri Lanka, the farm protests in India.
00:07:00.000The emergent soil movement, and the reason we're interested in this is precisely because it is a response to globalism that is truly global, that cannot be dismissed as racism, but that will not stop the mainstream media trying to condemn it as somehow right-wing and racist.
00:07:17.000In fact, even with The Guardian reporting on this story, don't they say, yeah, has won the support of far-right populist parties?
00:07:34.000There'll be manure, spit, there'll be all sorts of things in a wave of rural anger that you won't want to surf on.
00:07:40.000Government environmental policies has emerged as the big winner in Dutch provincial elections with almost 90% of the votes The BBB is now the biggest bloc in the Senate.
00:07:49.000Now, as well as reporting on it, The Guardian, mainstream media, of course, don't miss the opportunity to smear this populist movement because they think they're better than you, because they think they're cleverer than you, that they think that they need to parent you through politics, to guide you with instruction, haughtiness and condemnation, rather than be part of a conversation, which is what we believe.
00:08:09.000We believe that you will teach us, that we'll tell you our version of the truth, you'll respond to it, and together we'll be in a dialogue.
00:08:15.000With the possibility of redemption, forgiveness, with the possibility of altering our opinion, amending, adapting, finding new relationships, but that's not the way they go in the mainstream.
00:08:24.000The BBB, which has won the support of far-right and populist parties internationally, claims the problem has been exaggerated.
00:08:31.000So, there you go, I mean, it's just, for me, it seems like what they do, first of all, is look for a reason to shut down populism, and then bolt it on to any movement that's getting it.
00:08:39.000If it's come from nowhere, is it Russ?
00:08:40.000I mean, the Dutch government, this was in response to, and the catalyst for this was the Dutch government offering to buy up, and this was through forced buyouts, 3,000 farms.
00:08:49.000And so obviously there's a big movement that's been spawned from this.
00:08:51.000But even in the research that we've done, because obviously they're saying that these are big polluter problems, I think they call them peak polluter farms.
00:08:57.000But just in the research from mainstream media, you find the richest 1% of the global population use two times as much carbon as the poorest 50% over the last 25 years.
00:09:07.000In terms of the energy, companies recently have all made record profits in 2022 and 2023.
00:09:11.000ExxonMobil, Shell, BP and Chevron are all identified as among the highest emitting investor-owned companies since 1988.
00:09:17.000And they still receive subsidies, and they never come for elite interests.
00:09:22.000They always come for popular interests, the interests of the people.
00:09:28.000Even when condemning in particular the type of fertilizer and stuff that these Dutch farmers are using, which may be environmentally harmful, Bill Gates, who's a king of climate change, as well as international king of medicine, you, I believe, elsewhere in his format and within his portfolio, literally uses the same fertilizers that the Dutch farmers are being penalized for using.
00:09:56.000They're brilliant, do amazing investigations.
00:09:58.000So in his book, How to Avoid a Climate Disaster, Gates discussed his plans to model African food system
00:10:03.000upon India's Green Revolution, which moves farmers towards ever larger and less diverse
00:10:07.000farming operations that rely on pesticides and climate harming chemical fertilizers.
00:10:12.000This is something he's been promoting in Africa for the last 15 years, which has not
00:10:15.000gone down too well with a lot of the people in Africa.
00:10:18.000But it's one rule for one and one rule for, evidently, these farmers in Netherlands.
00:10:23.000When Bill Gates uses that fertilizer, it knows that Bill Gates is behind it.
00:10:27.000and it immediately causes a lot less climate change.
00:10:30.000But when it's a Dutch farmer, or a Sri Lankan farmer, or an Indian farmer, or a farmer somewhere on the continent of Africa, they bungle it.
00:10:44.000They think our traditions, our heritage, our new alliances, our ability to accept difference, our ability to come together with new alliances is an impossibility.
00:10:55.000Hit me up right now in the comments with examples from your own life of this haughtiness, this superciliousness, this ongoing patronizing condemnation that rains down from on high.
00:11:47.000Because there are some things that we're going to say that are now empirically demonstrable that are still against, unbelievably, against the guidelines.
00:11:55.000But you're going to love watching this.
00:11:56.000Let's have a look at that clip right now, please.
00:11:58.000I heard that it doesn't, um, cure it and it doesn't, um, stop you from getting it.
00:12:05.000So... On the very, very, very rare... Like, already, if you think of the narrative, remember for a moment, Don Lemon saying, you should shame the unvaccinated.
00:12:30.000Yes, that's why you've got to join us on Rumble.
00:12:32.000The link's in the description because what we've got, do you know, you're going to love this, every single moment in this exchange, our team, our diligent, hardworking and brilliant team back there have found a scientific study from legit sources like the British Medical Journal, those Conspiracy theorists over at the Lancet and Johns Hopkins University that prove that everything that that woman and her partner or whoever that other person in the house was, I don't want to make any assumptions what goes on in that household, everything they say is scientifically true.
00:13:08.000But, inconveniently, science that supports the rights of the people, not science that can be used to double down on establishment centralised power.
00:13:16.000Let's give Fauci another few moments in the sun, though.
00:13:19.000Although he would never admit that the sun's good for you, because they can't sell you that!
00:13:35.000You know, there's some vex, he won't even know you've taken it.
00:13:39.000Except there'll be a spring in your step and you might feel a fluttering in your heart.
00:13:43.00030% more like, hey, join us on Rumble in a moment or so.
00:13:48.000Because I suppose what we're talking about more broadly, the theme of this show, before we get to Stella Assange, partner of Julian Assange, of course, is why is it that there's so much divide and conquer?
00:13:58.000Why is it that there's so much condemnation?
00:14:00.000I mean, you've got to see how the Dutch news reported on the victory of this Dutch farmer movement.
00:14:06.000Like, even though when they're talking about unbridled joy, listen to the level of enthusiasm mustered up by the mainstream media reporter.
00:14:32.000As her party shook up the Dutch political landscape on Wednesday evening.
00:14:36.000Founded just four years ago, the BBB is now projected to be the largest party in the Senate.
00:14:43.000Obviously, this issue has to be drained of all enthusiasm because issues like this, a movement like this, is precisely what can change the world.
00:14:53.000Don't let them tell you it's not possible to change the world.
00:14:55.000Don't let them tell you it's not possible to change your own life.
00:14:57.000Don't let them tell you new systems ain't possible.
00:15:00.000They rely on us losing our ability to imagine new worlds.
00:15:03.000They rely on us losing our spirit, darkening us down.
00:15:07.000That's why they're promoting bad food.
00:15:08.000That's why they're promoting dumb stuff on your screen.
00:15:31.000I'm going now, home to my house to make love.
00:15:35.000I'm now going to move elegantly from that quote and that rather puerile bit of tomfoolery to a quote from Immanuel Kant on the idea of divide and conquer.
00:15:47.000In Perpetual Peace, a philosophical sketch by Kant, Appendix 1, divide et impera, is the third of three political maxims, the others being fac et excusa, act now, make excuses later, we see that in the political realm, and si fascisti nega, if you commit a crime, deny it.
00:16:03.000Kant refers to this tactic in Appendix 1 of his Perpetual Peace when describing the traits of political moralists, divide and conquer, keep people divided, promote difference in the culture, promote the idea that we're different from one another, that we have different interests, That you could never get on with a person who's wearing a baseball cap like that, you could never get on with a person who's using a pronoun like that, when ultimately you have more in common, we have more in common, with one another than we could ever have in common with the rarefied small group of elite institutions and individuals that ultimately determine the global agenda.
00:16:36.000Some Indian historians, this is how it is in practice, such as politician, I hope I'm saying this right, Shashi Tharoor, assert that the British Raj frequently used this tactic divide and conquer to consolidate their rule and prevent
00:16:49.000the emergence of the Indian independence movement, citing Lord Elphinstone, who said that the divider
00:16:54.000empire was the old Roman maxim and it should be ours. And of course, we mention this now to show
00:17:01.000our largely American audience that we, the British, acknowledge that many of the bad ideas that
00:17:06.000are currently being used by the American corporatist regime were invented by the British
00:18:21.000Like in our conversation with Glenn Greenwald the other day.
00:18:23.000Once we've established a meaningful system of actual democracy, once we've got systems where we can control our resources and be individually free, then we can have a conversation about, hey, how do you prefer this?
00:18:34.000And are we going to leave each other alone?
00:18:36.000We don't want a centralised authority, corporate or state, involved in these aspects of our life.
00:18:43.000We want as much freedom as possible, not as little.
00:18:46.000Gareth, do you think it's time for us to Skip over to being exclusively available on Mumble.
00:18:51.000I'm really determined to show because as well as everything else, as well as being almost a kind of new Rosetta Stone for many of the deceptive tactics deployed during the pandemic period, many of the errors made, much of the misreporting, the censorship, the opportunity to surveil, it demonstrates in real time too the Attitude that undergirded it, one of supremacy, one of domination, one of condescending, of speaking down to people parentally, and it entirely backfires because the family being addressed to a conveniently a family of color are able to sort of intuitively, instinctively, or as a result of education, plainly in some of the arguments, rebut
00:19:34.000Everything that Fauci is saying to in the end Fauci and his crew just walk off weary and exhausted.
00:19:47.000Remember, we're talking to Stella Assange in a minute as well.
00:19:50.000So join us on the other side, on the side of righteousness, inclusivity, absolute acceptance of diversity, end of all hatred, inclusivity and love.
00:21:16.000In fact, we got to get you vaccinated so that if you were to get infected, you could pass it on to them.
00:21:21.000So you're actually protecting your family by getting them vaccinated.
00:21:25.000Jabs do not reduce the risk of passing COVID within households, study suggests.
00:21:30.000Research reveals fully vaccinated people are just as likely to pass the virus on to those they share a home with as unvaccinated people and that's from those conspiracy theorists over at The Guardian.
00:21:42.000Well, I heard that it doesn't cure it and it doesn't stop you from getting it.
00:21:51.000This point is empirically demonstrably correct before we let Fauci A bare-faced lie in the face of the people he's paid to represent by their tax dollars.
00:22:41.000Um okay and now for our second clip yeah we can roll right over to that guys.
00:22:46.000People in America are not settled with the information that's been given to us right now.
00:22:52.000So I'm not going to be lining up taking a shot on a vaccination for something that wasn't clear in the first place and then you all create a shot Well let's check that.
00:23:09.000A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5-10 years and sometimes longer to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials.
00:23:17.000That's from those fringe lunatics at Infowars, no sorry not Infowars, John Hopkins University in 2021.
00:23:27.000You know how many years were invested in this approach?
00:24:56.000You know how many people died of... Essentially, what's heartening about this is it reassures you that ordinary people have a reasonable understanding of the world.
00:25:05.000Of course we're not saying that there isn't such a thing as expertise, ingenuity, study.
00:25:10.000What we're saying now and have always said is that this issue was revealing because it shows that when there is a convergence of interests and a particular momentum, An agenda almost automatically appeared.
00:25:20.000Where facts were denied, certain voices were cut out of the conversation, people were condemned and then not really apologized to.
00:25:28.000The counterpoint to all of this, and the bright side of all of this, is that ordinary people ain't stupid.
00:25:33.000That's good because, to a degree, we're all ordinary people.
00:25:37.000We can make decisions for ourselves, informed decisions.
00:25:42.000And I think this reveals to us the degree to which propaganda and authoritarianism has taken hold of our culture that you're not allowed to question.
00:25:49.000The presumptuousness of Fauci knocking on that door, assuming that he's just gonna blast people to the wall with facts when the facts aren't on his side at all.
00:26:00.000Yeah no I think it's really important and just to kind of come back to like Don Lemon's point and a lot of the kind of attitude of the mainstream media and of course like comments from Biden and the pandemic of them vaccinated but this poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation in 2021 said unvaccinated adults cite a variety of reasons why they've gotten not gotten a COVID-19 vaccine with half citing worries about side effects and 38% saying that the reasons include not trusting the government and we're in this situation where you know you're watching Fauci interacting with members of the public you can well see why people wouldn't trust the government why they might have had historical reasons for not trusting the government and then when it gets to something like this where they're told if you don't take this you are letting down half the population you are the reason why this pandemic continues
00:26:44.000And then you find out, oh, that wasn't the truth.
00:27:02.000We're so sorry about that condemnation.
00:27:04.000I don't know what happened to them 34,000 nurses booed out of their jobs in New York City.
00:27:08.000And in fact, part of the reason that we're willing to Form new relationships with people from different traditional political backgrounds, speaking for myself, like Tucker Carlson.
00:27:17.000It's just Tucker Carlson turning up on podcast right now saying I was wrong about how I reported on the Iraq war.
00:27:24.000I feel ashamed that I participated in that propaganda.
00:27:30.000And Tucker Carlson of Fox News, for now, who knows where that guy's going, will at least own his own errors. This is what, you know, I'd like to see
00:27:39.000Fauci go back around the house and say, sorry, you were right, I was wrong. Do you want to
00:27:56.000The flu the last year, I mean, not this year, virtually none, but the previous year, about
00:28:02.000You know how many people have died from COVID-19 in the United States?
00:28:06.000Okay Fauci's obviously about say 600,000 but Dr. Liana Nguyen writes in the Washington Post that the medical communities over count in the amount of COVID deaths and hospitalizations.
00:28:15.000She writes Are these Americans dying from COVID or with COVID?
00:28:19.000Which, if you've been part of this conversation for a while, if you've been part of our audience for a while, is a distinction that you're more familiar with.
00:28:25.000In fact, it's a distinction that you taught us.
00:29:08.000The man said, you're given the number that died, that's your number.
00:29:10.000The National Centre for Health Statistics uses incoming data to produce provisional COVID-19 death counts.
00:29:16.000When you start talking about paying people to get vaccinated, when you talk about incentivising people to get vaccinated, there's something going on with that.
00:29:21.000The incentives, of course, as you remember, included free donuts, fries, entering a lottery.
00:29:26.000I think there was a strip club involved at some point.
00:29:42.000Anyway, listen, one of the things that is worth mentioning is our health minister at the time, like the person in our country, the UK, charged with that, subsequently went on to be on reality TV and all kinds of crazy stuff after he got busted on CCTV adjusting what I can only describe as his erection while he was having an affair with someone from Another household when we were told that we weren't going to communicate with anybody else Some of these whatsapp messages got leaked and he said stuff like Matt Hancock's leaked messages suggest plan to frighten the public yeah, and now that man's part in shot was you're trying to keep people in a state of fear and
00:30:18.000Division, fear, shame, odd emotional tactics to use.
00:30:24.000If you think about it, controlling your consciousness, controlling your freedom, means engaging with your emotional palate.
00:30:30.000It means reaching deep into your psyche.
00:30:33.000That is why it's so vital that we have a free press.
00:30:36.000That is why it's so vital that we are able to be stringently critical of power.
00:30:41.000That is why it's so vital that the case of Julian Assange is looked at in detail.
00:30:46.000Why is Julian Assange In Belmarsh Prison now, without trial, a maximum security prison, when the stuff that he reported has not been proven to endanger the life of a single American service person, and that's what legitimizes it currently, while the facts that he reported were simultaneously reported by organizations like the New York Times, The Guardian, The Spiegel, all that top brass, neoliberal propaganda mouthpieces.
00:32:14.000I think that people have come to recognise that Julian is a symbol.
00:32:19.000I don't like the term martyr because no one should be a martyr, right, in a society that calls itself democratic and there are all these rights that we're supposed to uphold and so on.
00:32:31.000But they understand, they kind of see themselves mirrored in him in the way the Those in power are treating him with contempt, as if his rights don't matter, as if the truth doesn't matter.
00:32:45.000And in fact, Julian represents exactly what we should uphold,
00:32:49.000which is truth, which is treating people with respect, precisely the opposite of propagandizing them,
00:32:59.000giving them true information so that they can use that information
00:33:16.000And with suppressed information, you can go to court, you can rebut, as you have just done extensively.
00:33:23.000And, you know, the truth is, in the end, all we have.
00:33:28.000That's our final, the final defense of the powerless.
00:33:34.000And that's why they're trying to silence him so badly.
00:33:37.000The key revelations, I mean it's difficult to say because there was so much documentation that was revealed, but some headline points include the US Army's manual for Guantanamo prison camp, literally how to run a torture camp, that was revealed, including information within the document itself which said, don't let this fall into the wrong hands, we don't want anyone knowing we are doing this.
00:33:59.000500,000 messages sent on 9-11, video footage of a US Apache helicopter, Killing civilians and I think one of them was a Reuters journalist and given that these are so evidently stories that are in the public interest that demonstrate that American foreign policy was violent, egregious, unethical, illegal.
00:34:24.000What is the argument for keeping Julian Assange in Belmarsh prison right now?
00:34:34.000Well, in reality, it's just a show of force, because even when you look at the legal argumentation by the U.S.
00:34:45.000Basically, what they're saying is that to receive information from a source To possess it and to communicate it to the public, even if that information involves evidence of war crimes, evidence of crimes against humanity, as is the case here, then if the US government doesn't like it, then they can put you in prison.
00:35:05.000It's completely absurd, especially coming from the country that prides itself in being a defender and promoter of press freedom, right?
00:35:18.000I wanted to say how do they square that with the fact that the revelations were simultaneously made by more established and still operate in mainstream media outlets such as those I listed notably New York Times, Guardian etc.
00:35:29.000How is that distinction legally drawn?
00:35:38.000And that's why, actually, The Washington Post and The New York Times and The Guardian, who have historically seen Julian and WikiLeaks as a rival in the press landscape, they've actually come out to defend him.
00:35:54.000I mean, obviously, they could do so with more energy and commitment.
00:35:59.000But so far, they've basically put their editorials out to be on the right side of history and said that this case is a danger to press freedom, that it sets a terrible precedent, because they have done the analysis, and they understand that what the U.S.
00:36:14.000government is arguing here is that journalism is a crime, and especially journalism that denounces the state committing crimes.
00:36:23.000So, naturally, when you think about it, you know, They invoke this kind of secrecy, this almost sacred secrecy.
00:36:45.000Because obviously, if you have a war crime, and you decide to cover it up, then you have to stamp a secret stamp on it.
00:36:54.000And therefore, journalists who do serious journalism about national security issues
00:37:00.000have to have the right to be able to publish the truth, even when that truth is so-called
00:37:05.000classified, because obviously cover-ups are going to be classified.
00:37:10.000This Friday, there's a WikiLeaks art exhibition in London that you can attend if you want
00:37:17.000to that shows diplomatic cables leaked by Julian.
00:37:20.000Tell us a bit more about that, Stella, would you?
00:37:23.000Yes, here in London we're opening, Wikileaks is co-curating an art exhibition with an organization called Apolitical and it's a very exciting project.
00:37:33.000It has huge artists like Ai Weiwei, the Chinese dissident artist.
00:37:39.000It has a posthumous piece by Vivian Westwood and the piece you're referring to of the US State Department cables, it's part of Cablegate.
00:37:49.000So Julian faces 175 years in a US prison For publishing true information, right?
00:37:55.000And 50 of those years concern the State Department cables.
00:37:59.000And what this exhibition does is it publishes the secret cables out of those.
00:38:07.000I don't know how many thousands, tens of thousands of cables physically printed on paper.
00:38:13.000And so, theoretically, I mean, if you take the U.S.
00:38:17.000case seriously, which no one should do, I mean, you should take it seriously because it criminalizes the free flow of information and your right to know.
00:38:28.000But what I'm saying is that there's no legitimacy to their argument that if you read the information,
00:38:34.000you are in fact violating the Espionage Act.
00:38:37.000And this is a point that this piece is trying to make.
00:38:40.000In fact, when you read the news, when you read Seymour Hersh or when you read the Snowden
00:38:45.000documents or reporting about the Snowden documents, what you're doing, in effect, is violating
00:38:50.000Espionage Act, because that is information that the U.S.
00:38:53.000government says is classified and you're not allowed to know, even when it violates your rights.
00:39:47.000Estella, thanks for coming on and explaining how we can violate the Espionage Act and look at some art simultaneously and enjoy that documentary.
00:39:55.000We'll put the link to that in the description for you now.
00:40:00.000Estella, thank you so much for carrying the burden that you undoubtedly carry, for continuing to campaign for Julian's freedom, So for continuing to highlight that many people do not want a paternal relationship with the state where truthful information is censored in order apparently to protect us and those of you that have been following the Twitter files case will see that similarly truthful information is being censored presumably because you and I'm talking to you
00:40:29.000don't know how to look after yourself or make decisions for yourself and for your
00:40:33.000family, Julian Assange is in prison because of that mentality, hopefully not
00:40:37.000for too much longer. Thanks for joining us Stella. Thanks Russell. Why won't people
00:41:07.000Have you never been around those dirty, look they're dirty bastards, a raccoon dog.
00:41:10.000If you see a raccoon dog, they look like exactly what they sound like, you will get coronavirus so hard it will knock you to the middle of next week.
00:41:18.000So why don't you follow the science and start worrying less about corrupt oddly funded scientific procedures and worry a bit more
00:41:29.000about a little guy called Raccoon Dog.
00:41:31.000Here's the news. No, here's the effing news.
00:41:34.000Even though the FBI, former director of the CDC and the head of the Department of Energy
00:41:47.000all think that Covid likely came from a lab, there's a news story in town.
00:41:54.000Yeah, you know, raccoon dogs who you've never ever heard of before and haven't just been made up to distract you from it definitely coming from a lab.
00:42:14.000It did come from a wet market, not from the Wuhan Laboratory of Coronaviruses, as you might have started to suspect from the first bloody time you ever heard those words said.
00:42:25.000It's come from the stinky old wet market, this time because of a thing called raccoon dogs that you've never ever heard of before.
00:42:31.000Once again, an attempt to focus your attention on unusual animals like that thing called a pangolin or whatever the hell it's called, instead of irresponsible scientific practices Leading to an outbreak which would be costly and would diminish the authority of certain institutions.
00:43:29.000Something that might distract us from the fact that it probably came from a laboratory in which the people that were engaged heavily in organizing the response to the pandemic were also invested in by the NCIH and EcoHealth Alliance, which would be super embarrassing.
00:43:43.000There's this thing called a raccoon dog.
00:43:45.000If we start inventing new animals or just plucking them out of the forest, The team says their new analysis of samples taken at a Wuhan market in the early days of the pandemic.
00:43:56.000Why don't they get on and see what's going on at the Wuhan Institute of Virology?
00:43:59.000That's where the real scrutiny needs to go.
00:44:01.000Look at how some information is reported.
00:44:03.000Look at how other information is ignored.
00:44:05.000That shows you that there's a superstructure, that the media is a subset of a bunch of other interests and particular stories flow down and other stories get knocked back.
00:46:05.000Would you also like us to take the heat off an emerging idea that makes the pharmaceutical industry and several government agencies culpable for one of the biggest disasters in recent history?
00:46:17.000And before you think about the second one, raccoon dog.
00:46:28.000They haven't done any tests on the raccoon dogs!
00:46:30.000Sorry, is there such a thing as raccoon dogs?
00:46:32.000I don't know, to be honest, it just sounded cute.
00:46:34.000It's too early in the process to put this on the news.
00:46:37.000Look, can you cobble together a graphic of a little white silhouette dog, a little white silhouette lady, a bloody great big coronavirus, and a double-ended arrow?
00:47:29.000In a classified report to Congress, the Department of Energy concluded with low confidence that COVID-19 leaked from a Wuhan lab.
00:47:37.000The FBI also believes the lab may be the source.
00:47:40.000So it could be raccoon dogs, catch them now before their new animated movie franchise starts, or it could be this.
00:47:45.000Top scientific advisors told Congress earlier this month there's mounting evidence COVID leaked from the Wuhan lab and accused Dr. Anthony Fauci of trying to cover up the claims because they didn't fit his narrative.
00:47:56.000Experts, including a former Biden staffer and Donald Trump's CDC director, testified to the House subcommittee investigating COVID that taxpayer-funded gain-of-function likely caused the virus that came from the Chinese facility.
00:48:09.000So it's either taxpayer-funded gain-of-function research or those adorable dogs.
00:49:09.000They look like they're wearing a Zorro mask.
00:49:11.000Surely that is more interesting than a bunch of stuff in a pouring Why would they do this?
00:49:18.000Because I had a different point of view and I was told they made a decision that they would keep this confidential until they came up with a single narrative, which I will argue is antithetical to science.
00:49:28.000Robert Redfield's explanation sounds eerily similar to what we've all long suspected actually happened, that they had a preference for a particular perspective and promoted a lot of information that led to that perspective While excluding information that might challenge it.
00:49:40.000And all the time that they were saying follow the science what they actually meant was follow the science that we're giving you access to because we don't want you looking at this science because it's a counter-narrative that we cannot accommodate because if we accommodate it we will at some point become culpable for this entire pandemic.
00:49:56.000Some Democratic representatives at the hearings warned that accusing Fauci of ill motives would further erode trust in government health officials threatening public health.
00:50:05.000If you accuse this person of being dishonest, are you not aware that that will cause people not to trust that person?
00:50:11.000Yeah, but what if they shouldn't trust that person because he's excluding important data from the international conversation?
00:50:18.000Listen, do you know what a raccoon dog is?
00:50:36.000Maybe Fauci's coming round to the lab leak theory now that the evidence is mounting and surely he won't present some sort of bizarre magic bullet version of a lab leak theory to make it sound absolutely ridiculous and exculpate himself from blame.
00:50:48.000And on this theory of a lab leak, you know, I've been wondering this, do we have any idea how that would even work?
00:50:56.000They didn't have proper safety procedures and it got out of the lab either via a person or through a faulty air vent or through a variety of other means or through an infected animal.
00:51:08.000Have you got some sort of weird way that it could have happened so that no one that you've been financially or otherwise involved with would be in any way to blame?
00:51:40.000That is part of their job, actually, because that's what's made so many people speculate it came from there, because they do go and get bats with coronavirus, and then accelerate and enhance the functions of that virus.
00:51:50.000And potentially, maybe something could go wrong.
00:53:11.000The only thing that can make this whole situation worse is if you found out that you paid for it twice.
00:53:15.000US taxpayers may have been double billed for coronavirus research grants in Wuhan, feared to have started the pandemic, a damning investigation is claimed.
00:53:22.000Diane Cutler, former federal investigator for the House of Energy and Commerce Committee, found evidence that points to the potential theft of tens of millions of government funds.
00:53:31.000Former federal investigator Diane Cutler spent two decades combating white collar crime and healthcare fraud.
00:53:38.000During the pandemic, Cutler turned her attention to US government grants.
00:53:42.000That's interesting that white collar crime could have been occurring during that pandemic period.
00:53:46.000I suppose then there would have been a massive wealth transfer and newly empowered private entities being granted legal indemnity.
00:54:48.000Particularly not if the mainstream media keep underwriting and amplifying confusing stories that have literally no empirical evidence attached to them.
00:55:25.000If all home air purifiers are the same, why did the US Department of Defense select EnviroCleanse to protect and purify the air on board your Navy ships?
00:55:35.000Because EnviroCleanse advanced mineral technology goes beyond ordinary HEPA filters to destroy airborne illness-causing cold and flu viruses, including COVID.
00:55:45.000Perhaps if they'd invested in one of these little guys in a certain laboratory in Wuhan, we'd have all had a different couple of years.
00:56:56.000And lots of love coming in Stella's direction.
00:56:59.000Then, what I might call a passive-aggressive comment from the Rugby Druid.
00:57:03.000When Brandt was this fast-talking tosser on Big Brother's Little Brother, it was Big Brother's Big Mouth, thanks, I wanted nothing more than to see him stranded on a remote island with savage beasts.
00:57:33.000Because I was locked into a modality that made me believe that health I only could be purchased by pharmaceutical companies.
00:57:41.000I didn't know about Dr. Help Me Rhonda Patrick.
00:57:45.000She's a biomedical scientist and the host of Found My Fitness podcast and she's here now to talk to us about the limitless power within us that can be unlocked by subjecting ourselves, I think, to extreme temperatures.
00:58:22.000It's almost true, with the exception of cancer, that hasn't been shown yet. But as you mentioned,
00:58:28.000you know, thermal stress, the sauna is a type of thermal stress. You're elevating your core
00:58:32.000body temperature, much like exercise. When you exercise, you elevate your core body temperature,
00:58:37.000you sweat to try to cool yourself down. Well, saunas, you know, they're a type of stress,
00:58:43.000they're called intermittent stress. And this is the same type of stress that exercise is. It's a
00:58:48.000good type of stress where you're stressing your body, but your body has evolved these stress
00:58:54.000responses that are beneficial to that stress. I mean, humans were, you know, throughout evolution,
00:59:00.000we were exposed to intermittent stress. We were...
00:59:03.000You know, hunting, gathering, you're running fast to get prey, you know, that we went through periods of food scarcity, right?
00:59:09.000Like, these are types of intermittent stress, and our bodies have evolved pathways, genes that are turned on that sort of respond to that, that are not only beneficial in that moment, but they have a net beneficial effect.
00:59:24.000Anti-inflammatory responses, antioxidant responses that are active much longer than the intermittent type of stress period that we sort of
00:59:34.000engaged in. And so, yes, sauna use has been, and it's a modality, another modality, I argue, another modality
00:59:44.000of basically healthful types of behaviors like exercise, like meditation, like good sleep,
00:59:50.000all these things that, good diet, these are lifestyle factors that are known to improve
00:59:56.000health. And I think sauna should be one of those factors because there is just mounting
01:00:02.000evidence that the sauna is associated with a 50% lower cardiovascular-related mortality.
01:00:08.000It's associated with a 40% lower, what's called all cause mortality,
01:00:12.000basically dying from all non-accidental causes.
01:00:15.000As you mentioned, respiratory disease as well, it affects the lungs.
01:00:19.000Alzheimer's disease, a 66% lower chance of getting Alzheimer's disease.
01:00:23.000So many different benefits that have been sort of over the years now,
01:00:27.000we're getting more evidence that the sauna is beneficial.
01:00:31.000It's extraordinary, it seems to me, doctor, that by replicating the conditions
01:00:36.000the conditions by which we long lived deep in our forgotten history, we can engage
01:00:37.000by which we long lived deep in our forgotten history, we can engage dormant forces.
01:00:43.000dormant forces, and that one of the hallmarks of our time appears to be this disembodying
01:00:51.000way of life, that we increasingly stare sedentary at screens, glazed and lost and not
01:00:59.000connected to our bodies, unable to have healthy sex, eat healthy food, move nimbly through
01:01:11.000Do you believe that that's part of what it is?
01:01:14.000That it replicates the conditions for which we are evolved?
01:01:18.000And indeed, is that why it even, like exercise, sauna, and can I ask, cold therapy, is that why they affect your mental health positively too?
01:01:31.000I think that because we have been able to measure genetic pathways, molecular pathways, molecules that are increasing in our body in response to sauna use, in response to exercise, in response to cold exposure, We're able to measure those molecules and genes and go, look, these are beneficial molecules.
01:01:54.000They're things that are blunting chronic inflammation, which is a byproduct of being sedentary, of being overweight, obese, of eating a refined, you know, carbohydrate, processed food, rich diet.
01:02:06.000And we're able to then also look at these genes.
01:02:09.000These are genes that are, You know, heat shock proteins, for one, they respond to
01:02:14.000heat, but they also respond to just stress in general.
01:02:17.000So you can actually activate heat shock proteins, obviously, from sauna, which would increase,
01:02:22.000you know, your core body temperature and exercise, but cold exposure also increases those.
01:02:27.000And they're basically...they have a beneficial effect in your brain, also in muscle mass.
01:03:08.000You know, these are bioactive compounds that are found in plants that they're a little bit toxic, but only when they're like in a really, really, really, really high dose.
01:03:17.000Like, for example, they're toxic to insects or fungus, and that's kind of how Why plants evolve these compounds is to sort of ward them off.
01:03:24.000But when humans ingest them, it has a similar response.
01:03:28.000It activates these beneficial anti-inflammatory, antioxidant pathways in our brain and in our body that are improving the way we age and improving the way we feel, the way we think.
01:03:40.000And it's interesting because I actually became so interested in Asana when I was a graduate student getting my PhD.
01:04:32.000And since then, there has been quite a bit of literature showing that sauna is beneficial on the brain.
01:04:40.000So work by Dr. Charles Raison, you know, this was back in about 2016, he published a paper with people that have major depressive disorder, and they were sort of resistant to typical treatment.
01:04:53.000So like SSRIs, serotonin reuptake inhibitors is a very common one.
01:04:57.000And so he took these individuals and separated them into two groups.
01:05:01.000One group got what's called whole body hyperthermia, which is kind of like a sauna.
01:05:06.000So there's a machine, it's an infrared type of sauna where you basically are warming the person up via infrared radiation.
01:05:16.000And so they were getting that active treatment.
01:05:19.000And then there was a placebo group that was, getting just a little bit warmer, like enough to think they
01:05:24.000were getting the treatment, but it wasn't. And the people that were getting the actual
01:05:27.000treatment, they actually were in a feverish state.
01:05:30.000So their core body temperature, I mean, they were at about 101.3 degrees Fahrenheit, which is a
01:05:36.000little bit feverish. So they were really getting hot. And after just one treatment, they had an
01:05:42.000antidepressant effect that was not found in the placebo group that lasted six weeks.
01:05:47.000And this was sort of the instigation of now what is a, you know, a field of research that I'm involved in.
01:05:56.000Dr. Ashley Mason at UCSF is now taking that...she's taken that study And she said, OK, well, that was one session.
01:06:04.000What if we take depressed people and give them like four or eight sessions?
01:07:08.000It gets uncomfortable when you get hot, and you do have to sort of bear through that uncomfort, but it's easier to step into a sauna than to start going for a jog, especially if you've never done that.
01:09:14.000I want to know more specific information about how hot I should be getting and how long I should be in them.
01:09:18.000I'm obviously gonna ask you that, as well as reading you this comment from a member of our locals community, which you can join, anyone can join.
01:09:39.000That's how the Finns have been doing it for a long time.
01:09:41.000And you, Doctor, may be a scientist, but I will tell you plainly, with my hand on my heart, it's pronounced Chumerick.
01:09:50.000Also, Doc, tell us a little more, would you, about the benefits of lactic acid, and in particular within high-intensity workouts, and perhaps pick up, too, on Gareth's point that there are, it seems, natural facilities for life-giving benefits to our immune systems and respiratory systems that are not promoted or explored precisely because they're not profitable or not worthy of research.
01:10:14.000These are the kind of questions that were raised during the pandemic and that we continue to discuss.
01:10:19.000Not because we're like hippy-dippy lunatics, although in the case of me I actually am a bit,
01:10:23.000but because we believe that there are great powers that can be accessed and will only be
01:10:29.000supplemented through profitable medicines when necessary.
01:10:33.000What do you think about all that, Doc?
01:11:12.000And, you know, there's not an incentive there.
01:11:14.000As you mentioned, the incentive, you're not going to profit much from someone that can go for a run or from someone that can actually even take a hot bath, to be honest.
01:11:23.000Hot baths have also been shown you can do 20 minutes at 104 degrees Fahrenheit, and you can activate heat shock proteins in the same way that being in a sauna 163 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 minutes can do.
01:11:37.000And so not everyone has access to a sauna.
01:11:41.000As the commenter mentioned in Finland, they are pretty ubiquitous.
01:11:45.000But a lot of people do have access to a hot bath.
01:13:03.000But so much more we have learned over the course of the past 30 years or so is that lactate, when you force your muscles to work too hard, they basically can't make enough energy quick enough from basically these energy-producing little systems inside
01:13:22.000of your muscle called mitochondria that use oxygen to make the energy.
01:13:25.000They have to adapt and they have to go, okay, I need to make energy quicker.
01:13:29.000So they use glucose, they do this really quick type of metabolism where lactate is a byproduct.
01:13:35.000It turns out the muscles excrete it into circulation and it gets into the brain, it's transported
01:13:41.000into the brain where it's been shown to increase neurotransmitter production, glutamate, the
01:13:46.000major excitatory neurotransmitter, norepinephrine, involved in focus and attention.
01:13:51.000And also it's important, it's been shown to be critical for what's called long-term potentiation.
01:13:56.000Essentially, long-term memory, being able to remember things, learning, being able to learn things.
01:14:03.000And this is all being generated from your muscle.
01:14:05.000It acts as a little messenger that increases what's called brain-derived neurotrophic factor in your brain.
01:14:13.000It's making your brain more plastic, able to adapt to changing environments.
01:14:18.000And it's increasing the production of new neurons in your brain, all from exercise, all from this, quote-unquote, what we thought metabolic waste product.
01:14:25.000Our muscles are like little pharmaceutical factories.
01:14:27.000They're making compounds that are beneficial Not only for cardiovascular health, I think everyone agrees exercise has been known to be beneficial for cardiovascular health, but mental health as well.
01:14:38.000It's producing compounds that are, you know, they're acting as little signaling molecules, increasing neurotrophic factors in our brain.
01:15:18.000And there's so much that can be done beneficially for mental health, for physical health,
01:15:22.000for the way we age, for improving the way our loved, you know, our family members, our loved ones,
01:15:27.000helping them feel better, helping the world feel better.
01:15:30.000I think exercise is like the most important thing and particularly moderate to vigorous exercise.
01:15:37.000But on top of that heat stress is another modality as well.
01:15:39.000And so I'm it's awesome to hear that you're doing this Russell and I do it as well and it's like one of those things you don't know until you know, you just you got to try it.
01:15:48.000If this is true, and you're doing it, how come you are so lacklustre and lacking in passion in your own discourse?
01:15:57.000How come you are so stymied and astringent and sloppy and lacking in vitality?
01:16:05.000Doctor, it's so fantastic to have you on the show and to have the opportunity to showcase your evident passion and knowledge, to hear you explain how many of the tools we require for wellness are accessible within us, even though of course we accept that, as you say, not everyone has access to a sauna, although if there are good facilities near you it's an absolute possibility.
01:16:24.000It's interesting to know that we can take control of our personal wellness, that we can alter the trajectory of our health, that we don't Need to be sedentary zombies staring dimly at screens, pumping ourselves sort of SSRIs to remain just a little bit upbeat.
01:16:41.000If you are yourself a symbol of these methods, then they seem to be working extremely well.
01:16:48.000I hope that I get another opportunity to speak with you.
01:16:51.000I'd love to have you on the show many, many more times.
01:16:53.000You obviously have a great deal to say and so much of it is incredibly beneficial and informative.
01:19:54.000I think more than the betrayal in the line and the potential duplicity that's implied by the fact that they weren't abiding by rules that we had to abide by, presumably for safety reasons, if they weren't concerned about those safety reasons, why were those rules implemented?
01:21:11.000You can get that, you can watch it now if you're a member of the locals community, like Thomas Beard, who says exercise is almost always the answer, or Pride Faults, I know something that'll work for your depression, but you won't try it.
01:21:26.000Well, you beautiful folk in our community.
01:21:28.000Well, It's time for us to leave you now, unless you're a member of our locals community, where you can immediately watch Stay Connected, the weekly show Gareth and I do, where we answer your questions and show you behind the scenes, and by God, what crazy things go on.
01:21:41.000Remember, we've got fantastic content coming up later this week, as well as the weekly meditations that are accessible.
01:21:47.000There's one dropping on Sunday, where I deal with imposter syndrome.
01:21:50.000Not personally, I know who I am, I believe in me.
01:21:53.000You can access things like live podcast recordings, like the one I've just done with Graham Hancock, which will be the show for everyone else on Friday.