00:00:18.000Thanks for joining me today on Stay Free with Russell Brand for a very important conversation with Sonia Elijah.
00:00:23.000After Tulsi Gabbard released all that information that showed how corrupt Anthony Fauci is and has been, we got Sonia Elijah on the show who wrote about the pandemic.
00:00:34.000Her book is called Viral Takeover 311.
00:00:40.000And she sees the pandemic as the sequel to 9 11, i.e., an event that was used to create control.
00:00:48.000She describes not only the origins and the lies of the proximal origin theory paper that the advent of the pandemic was used to shut down people, saying, Did this thing come from a laboratory?
00:01:00.000All the way to the excess deaths, the corruption in the United States, in the United Kingdom, globally, Bill Gates' involvement.
00:01:07.000She's done a brilliant piece of investigative journalism.
00:01:10.000That really helps you understand, even though now we're all concerned about other stuff, that the pandemic was a significant moment in our history.
00:01:18.000It was the moment where they advanced a new project, where they took it to a new level of control.
00:01:24.000The pandemic, in and of itself, is important enough.
00:01:27.000But when it comes to understanding the future, it is the key event.
00:01:31.000It might even be key when understanding the past, because now, when you look at the, I don't know, whether it's the First World War or the Second World War or even the American Civil War, you have to know this about power.
00:01:40.000Whatever it is they're telling you, That probably isn't the truth.
00:01:44.000And if they're telling you, we're doing this because we love you so much and we want to help you, that definitely isn't true.
00:01:52.000Whether they're talking about protecting children through digital ID, whether they're talking about you taking vaccines to protect your children, whether they're talking about funding some war, whatever it is they're saying, it ain't true.
00:02:06.000Unless they come out and say, we're doing this because we want total control over you.
00:02:09.000You'll have a better understanding when you watch this brilliant conversation with Sonia Elijah and click the link in the description and get her book.
00:02:16.000Also, why not get this book, Forbidden Facts, by the great Gavin DeBecker?
00:02:20.000Also, why not get this book by Ole Russ, which in a sense tells you the one thing that you yourself could do?
00:02:26.000Instead of inoculating yourself with some weird experimental gene therapy that's going to mess you up and likely give you a, not likely, possibly give you a turbo cancer, inoculate yourself from this fallen world in Christ.
00:02:39.000Sometimes my relationship with him changes so far so rapidly that I wish there was a different word, but that's the name he was given Jesus Christ, the name above all names.
00:02:47.000Is not what you think it is if you've been involved in institutional religion.
00:02:52.000It's about, well, freeing yourself from the slavery of this world.
00:03:09.000And if you doubt that now, you won't doubt it after this interview, after it's explained to you what happened during the pandemic.
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00:03:20.000Before we speak to Sonia, here's a brief video explaining her work.
00:03:24.000Sonia Elijah is an independent investigative journalist and former BBC researcher whose work focuses on pharmaceutical regulation, public health policy, and government transparency.
00:03:35.000Over the past five years, she's conducted extensive investigations into the COVID 19 response, examining regulatory documents, freedom of information disclosures, vaccine safety data, and the decisions made by governments and public health agencies.
00:03:50.000Her new book, 311 Viral. Takeover brings together years of research into a single account of the pandemic and its political, scientific, and social consequences.
00:04:00.000How much control have you got over your money right now in this second?
00:04:03.000I wonder where all my money is, and I wonder right now.
00:05:31.000Is it, as it seems to be increasingly clear, the result of irresponsible.
00:05:37.000Bio research likely funded by the very people who were charged with remedying a situation that, with delicious and vicious irony, they created the social and political responses, who benefited socially and politically, how it was used to expedite further authoritarianism, who the heroes were, who the villains were, and what the motives were behind it.
00:06:04.000What's different, I suppose, about your work as compared to.
00:06:08.000My own interest as a sort of a human being that was profoundly affected by the pandemic is that you've done research and that there are close to a thousand citations in your book.
00:06:19.000Can you firstly give our audience an overview of the scope and scale of your task?
00:06:24.000Because the truth is, while there have been government inquiries in the United States and a truncated and rather facile one in the United Kingdom, it seems that any real work that's done when it comes to understanding the pandemic and its connotations, as I just described, is going to have To be done by investigative and independent journalists.
00:06:49.000So it's an evidence based examination that completely dismantles the official narrative of the COVID pandemic that reshaped society.
00:06:58.000It shows how unelected and conflict of interest ridden scientists, pharma linked philanthropies, and intelligence linked networks coordinated a narrative that.
00:07:11.000Basically, overrode ethics, science, and our basic human freedoms.
00:07:37.000But some of the most egregious incidents, apart from the general.
00:07:44.000The disaster that we all encountered were the internment camps in Australia, the trucker protests in Canada, the deception, the global deception.
00:07:55.000So, to help us narrativize it, and because you've done the responsible investigative work, can you tell us what are some of the kind of flashpoints and who are some of the real villains?
00:08:04.000You know, because you talked about the ethics of it, the ethics that were overridden.
00:08:08.000Who are some of the sort of figures that stand out?
00:08:13.000So, I mean, I mentioned this sort of, you know, the conflict of interest ridden scientists.
00:08:18.000So, essentially, the beginning of the book looks at the origins of the virus.
00:08:25.000And it sort of pivots around three pillar papers published in prestigious journals, Russell, that basically lock in the natural origin theory, right?
00:08:34.000This is a theory they pushed onto the public.
00:08:37.000Um, but amongst themselves, I'm talking about Anthony Fauci.
00:08:41.000I'm talking about Sir Jeremy Farrar, who was heading up the Wellcome Trust at the time.
00:08:46.000I'm talking about, um, the evolutionary biologists like Christian Anderson and Andrew Rambout and also, you know, Sir Patrick Valance in the UK as well.
00:08:56.000All sort of, you, they've got these massive emails and I look and a lot of my book is based on Freedom of Information Act release documents, these emails that they didn't want the public to see, right?
00:09:08.000So in private, they're completely believing that it's highly plausible that this virus basically leaked from a lab, right?
00:09:17.000This is, they're discussing it amongst themselves.
00:09:20.000Um, but in the, in public, they all, they all sort of lock in, they come together and they agree on this official narrative, which is to completely dismiss dispel, smear, anyone that suggests that the virus came from a lab, right?
00:09:37.000So the, I would say the most influential paper, and it is the most sort of, I think in history, the most sort of, uh, uh, influential paper in the scientific literature.
00:09:48.000This is the proximal origin paper that was published in Nature Medicine.
00:09:56.000And it was, uh, authored by Christian Anderson and Andrew Rambat, Robert Gary, Uh, Ian Limpkin, um, some renowned actually gain of function scientists.
00:10:07.000Now, on the surface, they, they, they, they conclude Russell.
00:10:11.000They actually say, we do not believe that any type of laboratory based scenario is plausible, which completely contradicts their discussions.
00:10:22.000You've got Anderson basically saying in a, one of his private Slack messages.
00:10:27.000He's the key, key author of the paper.
00:10:30.000This virus, when you look closely at this virus, it looks engineered.
00:10:35.000And then you've got the other author saying that given the shitshow that's going to be unleashed, it's best for us to say that this virus is not engineered.
00:10:49.000You also have, you know, sort of that shadowy hand at play.
00:10:54.000You have the Fauci characters, Francis Collins, Sir Jeremy Farrar.
00:10:59.000Now, it's very interesting that one of these leaked, one of these disclosed emails, You actually have Farrar as the official editor of this paper.
00:11:10.000Even though his name is not listed as an author, he's actually saying to the, the, the writers, could you please change this word?
00:11:20.000Instead of saying the word unlikely, can you write implausible?
00:11:24.000So he's literally, you know, editing the paper.
00:11:27.000But even going back before that, you have a very, um, infamous teleconference call that takes place on Saturday, February 1st, Russell.
00:11:37.000And leading up to this teleconference call, you have these emails where they're really in a panic about what to do because this virus looks engineered.
00:11:46.000But after the conference, there's a lot of backslapping that goes on, and they're really relieved because they all basically are going to, you know, dismiss as a conspiracy theory the lab origin.
00:11:58.000So this proximal origin paper comes out of that teleconference call.
00:12:03.00026, and then prior to that, you have a joint statement in The Lancet.
00:12:09.000This is the second key piece of literature that pushes to the natural origin, where 26 of the 27 scientists, Russell, are linked to.
00:12:20.000The Wuhan Institute of Virology and its funders.
00:12:23.000Um, you've got major conflicts of interest at play.
00:12:28.000This is Christian Anderson and Andrew Rambout, who wrote the proximal origin paper, who have, you know, they've, they've received funds from the Wellcome Trust and Fauci's NIH.
00:12:41.000So it's just, it screams of conflict of interest.
00:12:45.000And I, I start from there, Russell, because I, I want to dismantle every lie.
00:12:51.000I want to go for every untruth, what they pushed on the public, and how every dissenting voices were censored.
00:12:59.000Because the day the paper comes out, you have the editor in chief of Nature Medicine, where the paper is published, tweeting on this is pre Musk's X, this is when it was Twitter, saying, oh, this paper puts all the, let's put conspiracy theories to rest and stop spreading misinformation.
00:13:25.000And he sort of re, re quotes the paper.
00:13:28.000So you, you have this coordinated push for just locking in this natural origin theory, which is a complete, it's a complete lie.
00:13:38.000We know that the CIA linked USAID agency, their predict program, which was actually interesting, quietly disbanded in September 2019.
00:13:51.000But prior to that, they've, they funded a eco health alliance.
00:13:55.000So, this is Peter Dazak's charity, New York based charity, that was doing gain of function work with the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China, with the infamous Batwoman, Dr. Shi Zheng Li, if you remember her.
00:14:12.000So, you have this funding these scientists, funding these papers, and characters like Ralph Barrick from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
00:14:29.000A lot of his papers funded by, um, the CIA linked USAID, their PREDICT program.
00:14:36.000And, uh, this, yeah, this was going, and CIA covered it all up.
00:14:39.000So, um, just recently we've got, you know, these emails being disclosed going viral on X, right?
00:14:48.000And, um, yeah, so the lies started from the very beginning, but my book even goes before I do an extensive timeline looking at what was running up to the 311.
00:15:03.0002020, that's when the World Health Organization declared the pandemic.
00:15:09.000But running up to that, you have all these pandemic simulation exercises going on.
00:15:15.000I'm sure you've heard of the event, Event 201, right?
00:15:19.000So a lot of recommendations came out of that event where they are saying you've got to do something about misinformation.
00:15:27.000Governments and private sector need to come together to, in real time, combat misinformation and What do we have going on now in the UK, Russell?
00:15:37.000We've got the government coming out saying social media needs to only promote trusted news sources like the BBC.
00:15:46.000That is straight out of the playbook from Event 201, which I really kind of go into and dissect.
00:15:52.000So this has been, you know, it never was an organic response to a health event.
00:16:00.000It was a profound psychological operation.
00:16:04.000So the proximal origin paper, the function of which was to thwart the.
00:16:11.000Inverted commas conspiracy theories itself is a primary artifact in demonstrating that the conspiracy theorists were 100% accurate, eerily accurate, alarmingly accurate.
00:16:26.000Some people like Jay Bhattacharya, Robert Malone, Peter McCulloch, doctors and medical professionals that spoke out at the time, specifically and explicitly for the Barrington Declaration in the case of Bhattacharya, were.
00:16:41.000On point, that the response was inappropriate.
00:16:44.000Now, a few of the details from your excellent research that struck me as fascinating were 26 of the 27 authors were financially connected to the Wuhan Institute of Virology or its funders in one way or another.
00:16:57.000Of course, familiar names keep coming up Peter Dazak and Eco Health Alliance, a name you hear consistently.
00:17:09.000I think you said that that was Jeremy Farrow.
00:17:13.000Editing like small editorial changes, words like unlikely to implausible.
00:17:18.000This is a kind of a level of manipulation that is difficult to track.
00:17:22.000Now, the challenge that we have now is maintaining people's interest in something that is fascinating and provides, in a sense, a map for how our contemporary global imperial reality operates.
00:17:37.000That these various institutions that might seem to be, and perhaps in a limited way, are separate, function in concord.
00:17:47.000As George Carlin said, where interests converge, no conspiracy is necessary.
00:17:54.000Because I've not had the chance to read your book, it's quite a tome.
00:17:58.000I wonder if you had a chance to investigate when it comes to our country, the United Kingdom, the intervention, for example, of the 77th Brigade, Logically AI, and CRISPR, some of the groups that were charged and paid, not only by Moderna, but by the British government, therefore the taxpayer, you and I, to limit.
00:18:20.000Misinformation and take down vaccine misinformation spreaders.
00:18:25.000Can you tell me just particularly about some of the media control?
00:20:38.000They get, when we, when, Do you remember the Twitter files that got disclosed not so long ago?
00:20:44.000And you have like memos, like internal memos from Facebook, and they're kind of boasting how they're sort of, you know, de platforming these individuals.
00:20:54.000And yeah, I mean, it's just we know that the Biden administration worked with big tech companies to silence any dissenting voices.
00:21:06.000And that happened also in the UK, right?
00:21:10.000It wasn't just a US thing, but actually.
00:21:12.000The CCDH spurred this whole on and they're, they, they are a UK centric, uh, organization.
00:21:19.000Um, and then you have them actually, there were some leaked files.
00:21:22.000These are the, um, where you have them saying their top annual priority is to kill, uh, Musk's Twitter.
00:21:30.000So this is, and my book has got loads of screenshots of all this evidence, all these exhibits.
00:21:36.000Um, so, um, and, and a way of, uh, of killing Musk's Twitter is to do all these advertising boycotts and things like that, because they're literally, you know, Afraid of the truth, right?
00:21:49.000They want to silence people, deplatform.
00:21:52.000But I mean, yes, the scientists got a lot.
00:21:55.000A chapter is just literally censoring of the science, where I look at all these scientists, how they were treated, any papers that raise the risk of these gene based shots, right?
00:22:08.000This mRNA technology being retracted or not being able to get published, being smeared.
00:22:15.000But not only that, you had the injured.
00:22:17.000These are the vaccine injured and how they were treated.
00:22:21.000Uh, there's a section in my book where how you have the BBC involved in this.
00:22:26.000So you have them boasting they have a, they, they put forward an article where they are bragging that, uh, these anti-vax groups on Facebook, these are what they're calling the vaccine injured, have anti-vax groups are using carrot emojis to circumvent the censors, right?
00:22:44.000And they're bragging how they, they took, you know, they, they alerted Facebook and they got those accounts taken down.
00:22:50.000We know that the BBC helm The trusted news initiative.
00:24:05.000Not of COVID, but of other like, Heart attacks and other, other ailments and diseases.
00:24:11.000So, um, it's, it's, uh, yeah, it's, it's just really, I mean, if you think of, I mean, my mind still boggles what went on and how they weaponized fear.
00:24:22.000We must not forget this was a major psychological operation because early on, they knew that it, that the infection fatality ratio was like 0.1%, which is comparable to a severe flu season.
00:24:56.000I look at the rise of, of Moderna and I look at it's the, the, it mRNA technology is a DARPA technology.
00:25:05.000And DARPA is the, obviously, as you know, the military, uh, research, uh, arm of, you know, the Pentagon.
00:25:11.000And we know that they were really Desperate to bring out this mRNA technology.
00:25:17.000BioNTech and Moderna had failed to bring any mRNA product to market prior to 311.
00:25:25.000So it takes this disruptive event, right?
00:25:29.000Uh, this health crisis to usher in this new novel technology.
00:25:33.000And I believe the lockdowns were a psyop.
00:25:37.000So people were so desperate to get the shot so they could literally, you know, they would like, you know, uh, uh, the economy could go back to normal.
00:27:18.000It's reminded me of the depth of it and the tenacity of the event and the severity of.
00:27:26.000The deception on a number of layers, and also when you start to list the institutions and groups involved the BBC, the British government, DARPA it's so far reaching, so ridiculous, and also they are such pompous, pious, haughty organizations that approach the public.
00:27:48.000And actually, you know, obviously, this is personal to me like independent media and me, actual me.
00:27:55.000You know, there's no sort of actual, like actual me.
00:27:58.000I feel like I've actually been directly.
00:28:01.000And quite significantly and severely impacted by these events.
00:28:06.000And it's inspired me a kind of a righteous indignation that I know that I'm going to need.
00:28:13.000Because, in a way, significant though these events are on their own, and I enjoy your framing, Sonia, of the events of 311 as a sequel to 9 11, a biological sequel.
00:28:27.000That's a very good idea and smart branding for your own.
00:28:32.000Book and accurate because these events, whether they are engineered or not, and it can sometimes be difficult to corroborate such outlandish notions.
00:28:47.000But if we, through the with the advantage of the passage of time, look at the results of those events, we're able to perhaps discern what the intention of those events might have been were they orchestrated, and even if they weren't.
00:29:05.000It's curious how these global events seem to inadvertently benefit the most powerful interests in the world.
00:29:12.000And one of the moments that I started to like, the common sense started to kick in quite hard with me is when I recognized that the motivation of preserving life and the sanctity of life is not in evidence in global policy elsewhere.
00:29:30.000So if you're being told, well, the reason that we need you to take these injections, the reason we need you to remain in your home is because we love you.
00:29:38.000And we love life so much and we want to protect you.
00:29:42.000You can detect whether or not that's consistent with the values they deploy elsewhere.
00:29:49.000And so, once you've undertaken that quick exercise and quickly concluded that that's a total lie, you can then look at what they say about migration.
00:29:59.000We have to help people because we love people and we care about people.
00:30:15.000It's an important one, but it's a separate one.
00:30:17.000What we can definitely deduce is that they do not care about protecting migrants or refugees.
00:30:26.000You can detect quite quickly that they do not care about the sovereignty of Ukraine, that they do not care about people, whichever side they are of the Israel or Gaza argument, whatever it is they're saying.
00:30:40.000And when I say they, I'm talking about this.
00:30:43.000And the reason they have this sort of viable deniability because it is when you look at the work you've done, look at how diffuse and molecular it becomes.
00:30:54.000One person in one place is saying, don't use the word unlikely, use the word implausible.
00:31:00.000DARPA are experimenting in China with new biotechnology.
00:31:06.000Moderna, at the point when it has, I don't know, five employees, is getting investment from a hedge fund that the eventual chancellor and then prime minister of the United. Kingdom Rishi Sunak's invested in, then that guy just disappears from the scene.
00:31:24.000No one investigates the relationship between Moderna and the contracts that Moderna subsequently got.
00:31:29.000And of course, the media shaming and the attacks.
00:31:34.000I saw something in the Times where it said that the 77th Brigade had been specifically tasked with taking down and taking out Vax misinformation propagators in the UK.
00:31:48.000Well, At the time of the pandemic, Sonia, not to make everything about me, but I do notice I have that habit.
00:31:55.000I was like, there was not a person that was more saying, Hey, you want to be careful of these vaccines.
00:32:02.000And I don't trust the government, and I don't trust Big Pharma, and I don't trust the media.
00:32:06.000There was no one doing that more in the UK than me.
00:32:11.000And around that time, I experienced some pretty negative publicity and some pretty serious attacks.
00:32:18.000And as soon as they happened, As soon as they happened, the head of the Department of Media and Social Media and Culture, Dame Caroline Dynage, contacted X, YouTube, Meta, Rumble, etc., and said Russell Brown should be demonetized.
00:32:36.000This is interesting, one, because it's government intervention in a private matter.
00:32:40.000At that point, I hadn't even been charged with anything.
00:32:43.000It's also interesting because she's married to Mark Lancaster, who runs the 77th Brigade.
00:32:48.000So, you know, it's a big club and you ain't in it.
00:32:51.000And what I. Beginning to appreciate and understand is as long as they've got plausible denial.
00:32:57.000Oh, do you really think that Moderna were spending money here on logically AI and the British government was spending here and the 77th Brigade were doing this?
00:33:06.000You know, as long as they can sort of find ways to continue to advance control, you know, they'll do it.
00:33:14.000And like we're in our country right now, there's sort of political upheaval and distraction and all of that.
00:33:20.000But generally speaking, the train is still on tracks on you.
00:33:26.000When you were undertaking this significant and diligent task, can you tell us some of the moments where you felt the most visceral and personal outrage at demonstrable corruption?
00:33:41.000For understandable reasons, we can't keep streaming on YouTube.
00:33:44.000YouTube are part of the trusted news initiative that Sonia Elijah talks about, a network of media organizations that agree on narratives and agree to censor and control information together.
00:34:18.000The Wellcome Trust is this charitable organization that funds research, scientific research, that was led at the time of the pandemic, was led by Sir Jeremy Farrar.
00:34:29.000So we know that, that they, they made about 10 billion during the pandemic, right?
00:34:35.000Because of their portfolio, because they were heavily invested in pharmaceutical companies.
00:34:41.000And, um, I mean, for example, one of the companies was, which wasn't pharmaceutical was DoorDash, which is an online food delivery service.
00:34:50.000And what do you think, you know, I mean, how, yeah, and, and Jeremy from our was instrumental in pushing down, pushing for lockdowns, right?
00:34:59.000Um, so, But my book goes into the, um, this heavily flawed paper.
00:35:05.000This is, uh, the Professor Neil Ferguson's Report Nine, right?
00:35:10.000Coming out of Imperial College London, which happens to also be heavily funded by the Gates Foundation.
00:35:18.000And Professor Neil Ferguson, it was his paper that essentially was used to justify locking down almost the world, right?
00:35:26.000We know that Deborah Burks, she was on the US vaccine task force.
00:35:32.000She cited that paper when she was asked by reporters, why is this sudden need to lock down?
00:35:38.000Because I know, you know, remember, Trump didn't want to lock down, just like Boris Johnson at the time.
00:35:44.000And she cites this paper, this paper coming out of London, this explosive paper.
00:35:48.000So he predicted his catastrophic predictions of like, if we don't lock down in the US, you'll see two and a half million deaths by that summer.
00:35:56.000In the UK, you'll see half a million deaths.
00:35:59.000We know that he has a history of catastrophic prediction, all based on his modeling, right?
00:36:16.000On an exponential growth of the virus, which was flawed.
00:36:21.000And this is the paper that everyone locked down on.
00:36:25.000So, the same can be said with the PCR testing.
00:36:29.000So, I really delved into the whole PCR tests and all the essentially scams with that.
00:36:35.000And the conflicts of interest, again, you know, I look at Professor Christian Drosden, the German virologist.
00:36:42.000So, his paper is adopted by the World Health Organization as a gold standard.
00:36:48.000For diagnosing this novel virus, SARS CoV 2, three, like literally like the three days after the genomic virus, the sequence gets uploaded to vrological.org, which is January the 10th, January 13th of 2020.
00:37:05.000The PCR test is formally approved by the World Health Organization.
00:37:13.000My book, because it was very hard to write, you know, obviously I've been doing this for many years, but to pull a book together where it flows, where There's a direction to it.
00:37:26.000And if you look at the timeline, there are so many anomalies that jump out to do with the dates.
00:37:31.000So we know this was not an organic response to a health event based on these dates.
00:37:37.000We know that, for example, Moderna and the NIH, their vaccine research center, again, like three days after the virus is uploaded, the sequence, they've decided on the genetic sequence for their vaccine.
00:38:02.000Do you remember those NHS testing kits that were given out like candy?
00:38:08.000These were these, uh, rapid antigen tests.
00:38:10.000They work a bit like a pregnancy test to see if you've got the virus or not.
00:38:15.000The government spent, the UK government spent four billion of taxpayers' money on these tests that the FDA said they should be thrown in the trash.
00:38:26.000And it's so interesting because I was writing this report because a lot of my writings, you know, from, you know, 2021, I was writing on all of this when it was going on.
00:38:37.000And I happened to come across this Innova and I was writing on it.
00:38:41.000And then when my part two of my report came out, suddenly the FDA announced this, this, you know, messaging alert you've got to throw away these garbage, these tests.
00:38:52.000But again, the conflicts of interest, this VIP lane, the scandal of, How, I mean, people made so much money.
00:38:59.000There was a massive transfer of wealth during this time.
00:39:03.000And of course, at the end of the day, unprecedented control.
00:39:08.000My book ends with the final chapters look at this rise of digital authoritarianism that we are seeing across the West.
00:39:17.000You have to look at things like the Online Safety Act.
00:39:20.000Did you know that the CCDH, this is the organization I was talking about before, they were instrumental in the Online Safety Act?
00:39:28.000They were advising the UK government, they were also advising the EU on the Digital Services Act.
00:39:36.000The OSA, the Online Safety Act, is the most sweeping, uh, digital control legislation ever across, you know, is seen across the West.
00:39:46.000And, and we are seeing this play out now.
00:39:47.000We're seeing now them banning, um, social media for under 16s.
00:39:53.000Um, but this is all to usher in digital IDs, Russell.
00:40:06.000That was the test to see that will people comply? with a government digital, I, you know, kind of form of credential to access their basic freedoms, like travel, going to a restaurant, going to the theater.
00:40:55.000I was one of the early first journalists, I would say, to report and break the story of the Pfizer's lactation and pregnancy review document.
00:41:07.000And they, I mean, this is Pfizer's own document where they say, Oh, exposure to the vaccine through the placenta.
00:41:16.000And remember the lie they told everyone was that the shot would just stay in your arm, but it didn't.
00:41:22.000I mean, looking through all these documents, it goes everywhere, especially the lipid nanoparticles, which are essentially the vehicle for the modified mRNA and the synthetic mRNA.
00:41:36.000But I look at the DNA contamination scandal in the shots, and essentially the shots that were rolled out to the public, Russell.
00:41:55.000So really the product that went out to the public was completely untested.
00:42:00.000It never even went through a clinical trial because they used a completely different manufacturing process because with a biological product, the process is the product and these are biologicals.
00:42:12.000So Um, we have massive DNA contamination because in the pro, the process they used for the commercial batches, the one rolled out to the public, they used plasmid DNA from E. coli.
00:42:45.000And this is a huge scandal that hasn't really kind of, you know, people aren't really aware of because we know that DNA, when that's injected, you know, it can go to the nucleus.
00:42:56.000It has oncogenic potential, means cancer inducing potential.
00:43:08.000That's completely been swept under the carpet.
00:43:11.000And I went really, you know, we've got the UK Health Security Agency refusing to give the data that links excess deaths with these novel shots, right?
00:43:24.000And they're citing the reason that if they did, it would cause, it would trigger misinformation and it would make the bereaved families unstable.
00:45:16.000And I think that having listened to you as carefully as I can manage today, one of the areas is where we just got to the withholding of that information about excess deaths.
00:45:27.000All of us, much closer to the pandemic period, became aware of, you know, there was those extraordinary, all those morticians when they were embalming bodies, finding all that weird, peculiar white matter.
00:45:42.000It's incredibly audacious what they did.
00:45:45.000But what I want to try to Is that as many people as possible read your book and that you and I, going forward collaboratively, are able to identify where they are most vulnerable?
00:46:03.000If you think of Secretary Kennedy's book, The Real Anthony Fauci, of course it was very, very successful at the time.
00:46:10.000And now, you know, the man that wrote that book, a man that was at a risk to have him on a podcast, is now the head of the HHS and the American government's pretty far from perfect.
00:46:20.000But I can see that some great work's being done.
00:46:23.000In that area in particular, and he at least is a great man, I haven't a doubt about that.
00:46:27.000And what I'm interested in is in our country, it's smaller and it's got very deep power, the UK, very deep power.
00:46:38.000And if you get near it, it's really, really dangerous and really frightening.
00:46:43.000But this has been such a far reaching project, and it's obviously transcendent of British sovereignty.
00:46:49.000So there are unique vulnerabilities if you fight it domestically.
00:46:54.000If you fight it domestically, There are going to be fissures and flaws.
00:46:59.000They're not strong enough, smart enough or clear enough.
00:47:01.000Just look at some of that little rogues gallery of Dominic Cummings or Matt Hancock or Chris Witte, because it's a bit like the same as in Canada, it yielded the trucker protesters as they tried to shut down localised protests against pandemic related matters.0.63
00:47:25.000The UK haven't had that because, in a sense, our country is so fixated on migration issues because of Europe.
00:47:34.000Wide challenges in that area that people aren't able to focus on.
00:47:39.000And, you know, one of the problems of the very technology that affords us the ability to communicate at this rate and gather this information together and communicate it presents the problem of people aren't able to pay attention.
00:47:51.000And they require impactful communication and they require, I think, clearly iterated resolution.
00:48:00.000So, in a sense, what you've done, in the same way as one might say that with the rape gangs, Rupert Lowe's done an inquiry that's sort of brought together.
00:48:08.000A bunch of data, and I've not, you know, read it, but I can see that it's got information in it that's going to be pretty incendiary.
00:48:14.000The work you've done is going to be very useful in getting the British government on the hook.
00:48:23.000I mean, of course, since then, there's been about 19 prime ministers, so, and probably that's not a coincidence either, by the way, so that they can obfuscate.
00:48:33.000Who are we going to, you know, there's no one left that we can blame for that in government, but that's why, you know, if we don't, you don't.
00:48:39.000fixate on who they trot out next, Keir Starmer, Rishi Sunak, David Cameron, the new guy, Andy Burnham.
00:48:47.000What we're interested in is these institutions and these departments and how they're funded and how they operate.
00:48:53.000And I think that probably based on some of your research with some support, which I think I might be able to direct you towards, we might be able to come up with some real interesting lines of attack, Sonia.
00:49:07.000So where do you sense, yeah, it is necessary, where do you sense there might Be some vulnerability yourself?
00:49:17.000Where do you sort of, what would you most like?
00:49:20.000What bit of information would you most like access to?
00:49:27.000For example, it's sort of they, you know, the Freedom of Information Act, the whole process, that's amazing, of course.
00:49:36.000But when they refuse to disclose that, for example, I asked the DCIT, the Department of Science, Innovation and Technology, all their emails, memos, minutes of their meetings.
00:49:48.000To see how NATO was involved with the UK vaccine misinformation policy.
00:50:39.000And I think that's their greatest weakness.
00:50:42.000The involvement of the military is certainly interesting.
00:50:45.000And there are numerous examples of that.
00:50:46.000We've already touched upon the 77th Brigade.
00:50:49.000But it's the collaboration of these various apparently.
00:50:52.000Distinct groups, whether it's the BBC, you brought up the Trusted News Initiative, which is a coalition of media alliances where they have a kind of an agreement to report on the stories in the same way and an explicit agreement that they're not competing with one another, but that they are focused on trying to bring down independent media.
00:51:10.000There's that media component, there's the military component.
00:51:14.000In the United States, much of the pandemic planning was deferred to and organized by military organizations.
00:51:22.000Even the funding for the vaccine research is.
00:52:14.000Using biological weapons under the cover of an endemic or natural disease occurrence provides an attacker the potential for plausible denial.
00:52:25.000Biological warfare's potential to create significant economic loss.
00:52:30.000And subsequent political instability, coupled with plausible denial, exceeds the possibilities of any other human weapon.
00:52:41.000What he wrote in 1998 very prescient work.
00:52:45.000Yes, and it's interesting too that really, when you one steps back, and this is where I'm very grateful to you for your work because, you know, I'm very interested in the big picture and I'm very interested in how this is working through time.
00:53:05.000And how it is, in a sense, is a kind of an imprature and fingerprint of the movement of power.
00:53:10.000And the example you just gave is perfect.
00:53:13.000But to have this conversation at the level that's required, everything must be corroborated and demonstrable at every phase.
00:53:24.000There are lots of ways of preventing that from happening.
00:53:26.000Of course, literally, censorship and the control of information and not cooperating with well intentioned journalists is one of the methods.
00:53:37.000Second one is a kind of a state of continual hysteria, a general trend towards not, even though no one trusts government anymore and no one trusts media.
00:53:48.000There are kind of deeper spiritual problems when it comes to obedience and compliance, which, as you suggested, might have been piloted during that period.
00:54:00.000Like, to what degree will people comply?
00:54:07.000Pandemic period, and Mickey Willis, who made the film Plandemic, agrees that in a sense they weren't able to mitigate the intervention of independent media because independent media can have a diffuse and disproportionate impact.
00:54:26.000That's why this has been allied with censorship and misinformation from the beginning because they require not only the ability to reach everyone through this immersive technology, but To ensure that we don't use the same technology to provide counter arguments.
00:54:42.000I was really struck by in the sort of immediate aftermath of the pandemic, Sonia, when there was that North Stream pipeline story where the first wave was, oh, Russia have done this.
00:54:54.000And then people were like, just people sort of using common sense were like, why would Russia do it?0.60
00:54:58.000Isn't that sort of like their primary income stream?
00:55:01.000And then, you know, people on independent media, like we had like sort of former Navy SEALs on, and like, well, does that seem like a kind of the sort of thing Navy SEALs would have done?
00:55:14.000I can't remember the dude's name, but it was like a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist came on, it might have been called Seymour Hoffman, I think.
00:55:19.000He came on like a bunch of shows and wrote for a relatively prestigious sort of weekly magazine and said, This story, this pipeline story.
00:55:30.000So, like, now, like, the process that would have taken a long while previously, even though this is like the pandemic's now, you know, five, six years ago, the way that we can aggregate and disseminate information is pretty rapid.
00:56:30.000The desired result is control of the internet.
00:56:33.000Why would people grant us control over the internet when they don't trust us?
00:56:37.000Child protection, or like you know, that's when it starts to get really evil, they prey upon where we are vulnerable, our sweetness.
00:56:48.000This is where it becomes for me, Sonia, and I don't know how interested you are other than your surname in this territory of where it becomes.
00:56:57.000Spiritual battle that we are engaging with, I would say, evil.
00:57:02.000And this is how, what does evil look like in 2026?
00:57:06.000It doesn't look like demonic in the way that we've been trained from a sort of a medieval perspective to understand evil.
00:57:14.000It looks banal, to use Hannah Arendt's phrase.
00:57:18.000And it looks bureaucratic, managerial.
00:57:21.000But the thing about bureaucracy is it is dehumanizing.
00:57:25.000That's what we don't like about bureaucracy.
00:57:28.000Even on an interpersonal level, while you're waiting on the phone, now press four, now press five.
00:57:43.000Now, why I'm energized, why I'm deeply energized, is because I can see that their advancing desire for control is creating the front upon which this battle is going to be fought.
00:58:02.000As yet, we can still communicate openly.
00:58:06.000Now, of course, what they'll do, as they've always done, they'll assassinate either literally or via character people that are willing to step into the fray.
00:58:14.000But they won't be able to do that quickly enough.
00:58:17.000The technology will always be the frontier because it's the unmanifest made manifest.
00:58:30.000And this technology that we have now allows total centralized authoritarianism, but it also permits total decentralization, real democracy, transparency, total communication.
00:58:42.000In our country, the United Kingdom, they're advocating for total technological control, a kind of technological feudalism where they have absolute control over information, absolute control, a kind of Foucaultian biopolitics where they can actually control what's happening in your mind.
00:58:57.000But the problem they have and the problem that they encountered and witnessed in real time during the pandemic.
00:59:03.000Is that we can use the same technology in the same way.
00:59:06.000So, I guess, like in all wars against tyrants, and in all wars, we're in one because that's why the military was so heavily involved.
00:59:12.000It was an act of war against everybody.
00:59:16.000We have to fight like guerrilla style.
00:59:20.000There will be, you know, acts of a kind of, I don't know, virtual terror.
00:59:24.000And the great leaders of the last century demonstrate to us, as also and somewhat significantly, I would have to concede, Christ, that it must be peaceful.
00:59:36.000That as soon as you violate, they've got you.
00:59:39.000They can do what they want to bring people down.
00:59:45.000They can move around the tiles in reality to create collages using the systems that ultimately work for them the legal system, the media system, the political system.
01:00:05.000No, the function is how do they work, walk that.
01:00:08.000Delicate line of getting us to believe, well, this is all for us and we're paying for this and they're helping us and not break out into like, yeah, what I'm aware of myself here, Sonia, in this conversation is careful, Russell, because I feel it.
01:00:22.000I feel the energy coming, the energy that you need when you believe in something.
01:00:27.000But I notice that that energy can be very difficult to hold.
01:00:32.000It's difficult to hold, is what I would say about it.
01:00:35.000So I need to, yeah, we need to really help one another.
01:01:49.000This is the scientific advisory group on emergencies that advised the government, SAGE, where they actually list, it actually states in this paper there's a screenshot, we need to use media to increase the sense of threat, of fear.
01:02:17.000Like, in the end, you can see the distillation into very personal and spiritual humors.0.99
01:02:27.000That if you can shame people, if you can frighten people, if you can create, I mean, even as you said, the incentivization, the kind of ridiculous stick and carrot of if you are an anti vaxxer, you are shameful.
01:02:39.000Whereas if you get a vaccine, you're a good person and you can go on holiday and you can go to a bar and you can go to a concert.
01:02:49.000The enlisting of celebrities that you why I am fascinated by the pandemic is it showed us everything, it showed us everything, it's all out there now.
01:03:01.000But, uh, but the challenge is to respond.
01:03:21.000On this terrain, like I'm thinking of Solomon's discernment in the Tower of the Harlots, is how, like, what an idea that creates truth from it.
01:03:33.000Like, you can't, when he says, Well, let's cut the baby in half, then, and you can have half the baby each.0.80
01:03:42.000The true mother, even if that's not the woman that gave birth, the true mother is the one, Oh, no, don't do it.
01:03:49.000Like, it's like that's that wisdom.0.99
01:04:51.000Arm yourself with the facts so that you can have these conversations.
01:04:55.000And because it's not just about the pandemic.
01:04:58.000It's a playbook for how power operates in the modern age.
01:05:01.000And once you understand their playbook, then you know how to counterattack.
01:05:05.000We are going to be playing counterattack because they've got the guns, but we've got the numbers, as Jim Morrison used to say before he died in the bath.
01:05:13.000You know, drug addicts, the way they all go out.