Stay Free - Russel Brand - “THEY’LL SHUT YOU DOWN!” - Dr John Campbell On Vaccines, Big Pharma & WHO Treaty - Stay Free #218

00:00:00.000 This is a video of the game.

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00:00:35.000 Hello there you awakened wonder wherever you are.

00:00:49.000 Well done for transcending the fear.

00:00:51.000 Well done for not allowing the machine to reduce you to the status of an automaton.

00:00:56.000 Well done for remaining connected to your essence.

00:00:59.000 Well done for questioning and interrogating mainstream narratives that will mean one day we will have alternatives.

00:01:06.000 The alternative has already been born.

00:01:08.000 We are it.

00:01:09.000 We are the movement that's going to change the world together.

00:01:12.000 By questioning, for example, a memorial for the war on terror.

00:01:12.000 How?

00:01:16.000 You know the War on Terror?

00:01:17.000 That great scar on the West?

00:01:19.000 That great exemplifier of transgressions and lies and treachery and deceit?

00:01:25.000 Yeah, I remember that already, and it's still happening, so I don't need to remember something that's happening now.

00:01:30.000 Well, why don't we build a statue to it?

00:01:32.000 This helps us.

00:01:33.000 This story you're going to see in a minute, and here's the news.

00:01:36.000 It helps us to understand the way that the media simply amplifies propaganda of the state and normalises the message of the state.

00:01:42.000 Something we've recently begun to understand as state-free media.

00:01:45.000 They normalise an idea through repetition and immersion.

00:01:50.000 Now I've got to ask you, follow us!

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00:01:58.000 You know now that the government, the actual government, demanded that we be demonetised.

00:02:03.000 Well, they didn't demand, they asked, but the fact is that it was treated as a demand and we were demonetised.

00:02:09.000 So we need your support now.

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00:02:21.000 Your attention and your presence is so much more important than your money.

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00:02:26.000 But we do need your money.

00:02:27.000 The first part of the show is available everywhere.

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00:02:34.000 Let's see what the legacy media are telling you.

00:02:37.000 During the Liberal Convention in Ottawa, Chrystia Freeland, Nazi granddaughter, and Hillary Clinton need No explanation have been telling us that Ukrainians are dying right now, not for humanitarian reasons or can't remember what they told us last week, but it's so that NATO can send a message to China. 0.56

00:02:55.000 This is astonishing.

00:02:56.000 They're admitting publicly that this is a sort of, well, a PR exercise.

00:03:01.000 It's a resource exploitation exercise.

00:03:04.000 It's an opportunity to pilot tech dystopias.

00:03:07.000 We've already told you about that.

00:03:08.000 BlackRock are already involved.

00:03:10.000 This is extraordinary.

00:03:12.000 Watch the way that this is presented.

00:03:14.000 This is propaganda live. 0.99

00:03:16.000 It's essentially like watching the Emperor and Darth Vader's PR people go, this is why we've got to kill those Ewoks. 1.00

00:03:24.000 It'll send a message to other cute, fluffy, bear-like forest dwellers. 1.00

00:03:29.000 Now, I agree with you, Madam Secretary, that... No shit. 1.00

00:03:33.000 You wouldn't be here if you didn't. 0.99

00:03:36.000 Message of deterrence?

00:03:39.000 Can you see how much is packed into that little statement?

00:03:46.000 Do China need to be deterred? 0.93

00:03:48.000 Where is the empirical evidence that China are expansionist beyond their geographical region and their own History and trajectory and rights to have their own attitudes that maybe isn't the rest of the world's business and do you imagine that that's what America is doing right now?

00:04:03.000 Do they need to be deterred?

00:04:05.000 Deterred from what?

00:04:06.000 Are China circling America now with military bases or are America circling China right now with military bases?

00:04:15.000 Just check the answer to that question and then you perhaps will be in a better position to see whether or not there's any legitimacy to what Chrystia Freeland, Nazi granddaughter, is saying there to Hillary Clinton.

00:04:25.000 You've done your research.

00:04:26.000 I know already in the chat what you think Hillary Clinton's doing for a hobby and where her husband goes on holiday. 0.97

00:04:31.000 Notice no one's investigating that.

00:04:33.000 So let me know in the chat in the comments your views.

00:04:35.000 And just look at, again, the media normalizes the agenda of the powerful.

00:04:41.000 The media normalizes the agenda of the powerful.

00:04:46.000 Yeah, send a message!

00:04:51.000 We're sending a message to you, China. 1.00

00:04:53.000 That's like, if this was a movie about the mob, they're just saying, let's go smash up, like, China's shop. 0.75

00:04:58.000 That's what they're saying, isn't it?

00:04:59.000 That's what they're literally saying.

00:05:01.000 Smash up their shops to let them know what's coming.

00:05:05.000 And Christian Freeland, Nazi granddaughter, should know a thing or two about sending messages by smashing stuff up. 0.90

00:05:13.000 That is the message that says to all the world's dictators, you know what?

00:05:19.000 Democracy is prepared to fight back.

00:05:22.000 It's not fighting back.

00:05:23.000 It's actually fighting preemptively.

00:05:26.000 It's not like bloody China when they sent that hot air balloon over the country. 0.95

00:05:26.000 It's beyond fighting back. 0.95

00:05:31.000 Well, do you know what we'll do? 1.00

00:05:32.000 We'll kill the Chinese. 1.00

00:05:33.000 That's what we'll do. 1.00

00:05:34.000 We'll start taking over Taiwan right now. 0.99

00:05:36.000 That's not what's happening.

00:05:38.000 Sending a message that democracy is willing to fight back.

00:05:41.000 Democracy is not a religion.

00:05:43.000 It's meant to be just a municipal bureaucratic system of engaging the will of the people.

00:05:49.000 Do you know what would be democratic?

00:05:51.000 Do you want a war with China?

00:05:52.000 Yes or no? 0.99

00:05:53.000 Tick yes, we'll go bomb China. 0.99

00:05:55.000 Tick no, we won't.

00:05:56.000 Do you want us to fund welfare in Hawaii?

00:06:00.000 Tick yes or no.

00:06:01.000 Do you want us to perpetuate?

00:06:02.000 Well, that's what would happen in a democracy.

00:06:05.000 That would be democracy.

00:06:06.000 Then you could legitimize what you're saying. 1.00

00:06:08.000 Not once every four years you're gonna have this son of a... or this total arse. 0.99

00:06:13.000 You know, that's not democracy. 0.99

00:06:15.000 That is a contained system of hegemony where your views are meaningless.

00:06:21.000 And if that were not sufficient evidence that you're sliding into dystopia, how about a delicious ice cream made out of waste plastic?

00:06:30.000 You're alright.

00:06:31.000 No, no, we're spending money evolving this project.

00:06:34.000 Of course you know the saying, I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream.

00:06:38.000 Oh, I'm screaming.

00:06:40.000 I'm screaming because you're normalizing dystopia.

00:06:43.000 First it was eat bugs, lab-grown meat, and now ice cream made out of plastic.

00:06:48.000 Also may I say, Ice cream's a luxury.

00:06:50.000 You don't even need ice cream anyway.

00:06:52.000 Even if it's like grass-fed cattle or some sort of pure bean grown somewhere without lopping down a bit of the Amazon.

00:06:59.000 It's a re-harvest plastic just to give people ice cream.

00:07:04.000 Stop eating ice cream, actually.

00:07:05.000 Stop it.

00:07:06.000 It's not very good for you. 1.00

00:07:07.000 We're not idiots. 0.99

00:07:08.000 Let's start eating things that grows where we are, when we are. 0.96

00:07:11.000 And if you're a person that eats meat, and even though I don't, I don't judge you because it's your life.

00:07:16.000 That's called your life.

00:07:18.000 Try and eat meat.

00:07:19.000 There's somewhere around where you are.

00:07:21.000 Not shuttled around the world, in a factory, bolted in the brain.

00:07:25.000 Let's try and get out of this hell, shall we?

00:07:27.000 Not work out.

00:07:28.000 We found a new corner of hell to occupy. 1.00

00:07:31.000 You're gonna eat shit now. 1.00

00:07:34.000 I'd like it. 1.00

00:07:35.000 It's vanilla flavoured.

00:07:36.000 Can't you at least make it chocolate?

00:07:41.000 This is plastic ice cream.

00:07:44.000 Scientists from the UK have reportedly made the world's first food made from plastic waste.

00:07:50.000 Why is this news?

00:07:51.000 It's not even edible yet.

00:07:52.000 This is like they've made food made out of plastic.

00:07:57.000 Well done.

00:07:58.000 Well done you.

00:07:59.000 Can we do something about the forever wars?

00:08:01.000 Can we do something about the incremental increasing surveillance Can we do something about these censorship laws that are being normalized and introduced?

00:08:08.000 Can we do something about the culture wars?

00:08:09.000 Can we let people have some hope, meaning, and God in their lives?

00:08:14.000 Sorry, did you say you want a plastic ice cream or not?

00:08:16.000 It's chocolate flavored now!

00:08:19.000 Why isn't chocolate?

00:08:21.000 Researchers from the University of Edinburgh figured out a way to harness bacteria.

00:08:26.000 Also, part of the problem with processed food, like, isn't food already too processed?

00:08:30.000 Given it's diabetes, heart disease, cancer, full of phthalates from plastics that's getting in there by accident.

00:08:35.000 Do you know what?

00:08:36.000 We need more processed food, go on, with more plastic!

00:08:40.000 That isn't the answer!

00:08:41.000 Why are you going that way?

00:08:43.000 Why are you running in the wrong direction? 0.62

00:08:46.000 Why are you dragging us to hell?

00:08:48.000 It's delicious, you know! 0.94

00:08:50.000 Delicious hell!

00:08:52.000 As well as enzymes to behave as eco-friendly factories that break down plastic into digestible material.

00:08:59.000 Hang on that rotating thing like it's a car on a game show.

00:09:03.000 Look at what you could have won!

00:09:05.000 Some disgusting plastic ice cream! 0.86

00:09:07.000 However, the scientists involved made sure to emphasize that the ice cream is still a research project and not yet ready for human consumption.

00:09:17.000 We will see.

00:09:19.000 Not news!

00:09:20.000 Propaganda!

00:09:21.000 Shh! 0.97

00:09:21.000 Propaganda! 0.97

00:09:22.000 Just because something's digestible doesn't mean you should eat it.

00:09:25.000 The news is digestible, but you shouldn't be consuming it.

00:09:29.000 Next on the Dystopia cavalcade, WorldCoin.

00:09:32.000 We told you about WorldCoin, how they've found some country poor enough to tolerate the introduction of chrome spheres, sucking data out of your eyes, stealing all your biometrics under the auspices of helping you, as usual.

00:09:43.000 Safety and convenience, safety and convenience, all the way to the cell and to the boneyard.

00:09:49.000 Here, the claim is made that this technology could be used for social welfare.

00:09:53.000 Let's see how the legacy media are going to normalise this piece of propaganda.

00:09:58.000 In cities around the world, big metallic orbs are scanning people's eyeballs and handing out a new cryptocurrency as a reward.

00:10:05.000 Well, actually, I'm not happy about that.

00:10:07.000 I'm still getting used to the idea that you don't have like a milkman come to your house and deliver milk every day, that you don't have a paperboy There you go, sir!

00:10:15.000 There's your newspaper!

00:10:17.000 I'm adjusting to that.

00:10:18.000 I'm adjusting to the dehumanization, turning everything into data and information, stripping away community and connection.

00:10:25.000 I'm not ready yet for the Chrome Orb, sucking information out of my eyes, spying on me, and introducing a currency that could be switched off if I'm not an obedient little prisoner of the state.

00:10:36.000 Notice how the news, the news, which is Never forget, just the TV show Amplifying the Agenda of the Powerful tells you now that this is somehow going to help you.

00:10:47.000 From New York to Tokyo, these scanning stations look like a scene out of a sci-fi movie.

00:10:52.000 One where... That's not good!

00:10:53.000 Sci-fi movies may be enjoyable as entertainment.

00:10:56.000 You don't want to live there, do you?

00:10:57.000 You don't want to actually live in Blade Runner.

00:10:59.000 You're like, oh, I like that.

00:11:00.000 Blade Runner really makes you think about the possibility of, like, AI and the amount of control that could be exerted by a government.

00:11:06.000 Yeah.

00:11:06.000 And what does it make you think about it?

00:11:07.000 That you would like it to actually happen?

00:11:10.000 No, actually, it's a warning.

00:11:11.000 A horrific Warning about the hubris of humankind and what happens if we detach absolutely from simple, easy-to-understand values like kindness, service, justice, unity, love, tolerance, which to these people are just words and ways of sucking information out of your eye with a chrome bull.

00:11:30.000 Did you hear that?

00:11:36.000 The right to participate.

00:11:39.000 That means they can switch off your money.

00:11:41.000 That's where it's going.

00:11:42.000 You won't be able to travel.

00:11:43.000 You won't be able to spend.

00:11:44.000 Do you really think, after what you've been through in the last few years, they'd never do that?

00:11:49.000 I'd like to see them implement the laws they introduced in China.

00:11:53.000 To Americans or to British people as a matter of fact.

00:11:56.000 Yeah, or Australians, mate. 1.00

00:11:57.000 And what about Canadians? 0.57

00:11:59.000 Well, we're going to do a double quick over there.

00:12:01.000 We've already got the perfect regime in place.

00:12:04.000 This is just the normalisation of immersive surveillance, censorship, and now the ability to shut off your money.

00:12:11.000 has a lot of big name backers. In May, WorldCoin raised $115 million in a series C funding

00:12:17.000 round led by Blockchain Capital. Other members of its cap table and what was attractive about

00:12:23.000 blockchain if I understand you guys right and let me know in the chat and the comments

00:12:26.000 because you guys are much more advanced on this than me plainly is that it allows anonymity.

00:12:31.000 It allows commerce and trade outside of the auspicious reach of the government, the state

00:12:38.000 and the corporate partners in big tech. Well, what they're doing is what if we took blockchain

00:12:43.000 and cryptocurrency but instead of it being private, anonymous and untraceable, we made

00:12:48.000 it the opposite of that.

00:12:50.000 Maximum privacy for government, maximum invasion into your privacy.

00:12:55.000 It should be the reverse.

00:12:57.000 The government should be 100% transparent and you should have access to total privacy, unless you're proven to have done something wrong.

00:13:05.000 What's being normalized is the inverse of that.

00:13:07.000 Before your very eyes.

00:13:08.000 And while you've got your eyes, how about sucking some information out of those guys?

00:13:12.000 Just look into the chrome sphere.

00:13:14.000 Completely normal.

00:13:15.000 Nothing to worry about.

00:13:17.000 ...include VCs like Andreessen Horowitz and Coinbase.

00:13:20.000 Worldcoin, now valued at 3 billion dollars.

00:13:23.000 According to the information, a user signs up through the app and they are then tasked with visiting a Worldcoin location.

00:13:29.000 Find a nearby orb, just like, you know, like it's a sort of a mailbox, a postbox, a friendly policeman that you're strolling by.

00:13:37.000 Where is the pastoral life?

00:13:39.000 Madness.

00:13:40.000 In one of the more than 20 countries where the orbs are currently operational.

00:13:44.000 We told you last time they pilot it in a poor country, they'll bring it to rich countries.

00:13:48.000 It turns out we, stroke you, stroke we, were right about that.

00:13:53.000 Let's have a look at some other facts.

00:13:54.000 According to Reuters, WorldCoin has said it will allow companies and governments to use its ID system.

00:13:58.000 Oh, so part of the convenience and safety will be that your information will be given to companies for advertising and governments for control.

00:14:05.000 Yeah, I suppose you could do that.

00:14:08.000 One of the envisaged applications of WorldCoin is to create a public infrastructure that will serve as proof of personhood.

00:14:13.000 Who doesn't want to prove that they're a person?

00:14:15.000 That's the only thing that's happening.

00:14:16.000 It's not that it's going to create a vast database of facts about you.

00:14:21.000 Without citing sources or methodology allowing it to arrive at this conclusion, a post on WorldCoin's website claims that India managed to save more than half a billion dollars worth of social welfare and subsidies by using a biometric data-based anti-fraud system.

00:14:35.000 Social welfare, I feel, is the lubrication that will ultimately become social

00:14:39.000 credit scores. But let me know in the chat and the comments what you think. And remember, if it's

00:14:45.000 within your means, press the red button, join us, become part of this movement. We need you if we're

00:14:49.000 going to oppose all this stuff.

00:14:51.000 Hey, you know we believe in free speech, you know we believe in freedom of speech,

00:14:54.000 and where freedom meets speech, you get free speech, and where free speech means you get freech.

00:15:05.000 This is from V-BEC.

00:15:06.000 The problem arising for creators of independent journalism is that you stand alone.

00:15:12.000 You should seriously consider creating a collective of some sort so you can stay free and bring us news that leaves space for free thinking, reasoning, and deduction.

00:15:20.000 Yeah, we would love your help.

00:15:21.000 That's why it's important that you join us.

00:15:22.000 Press the red button.

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00:15:26.000 Hello, how lovely to say your name.

00:15:27.000 I hope you're all right out there.

00:15:29.000 Lawlessness equals where evil is good and good is evil.

00:15:32.000 We're well on our way, aren't we?

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00:15:47.000 As an independent news junkie, I finally found your platform.

00:15:49.000 It's the best remedy for maintaining one's sanity.

00:15:51.000 I can't recall laughing this much in months.

00:15:53.000 Thank you, Russell.

00:15:54.000 You are the best.

00:15:55.000 You've got to keep laughing.

00:15:57.000 Humour, the ability to discern, the ability to stay awake are absolutely vital.

00:16:01.000 Press the red button.

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00:16:07.000 Remember the War on Terror?

00:16:08.000 What do you mean remember it?

00:16:09.000 It's still happening?

00:16:10.000 Oh yeah, well you don't need to remember it.

00:16:11.000 But can we build a memorial anyway?

00:16:13.000 I don't think you should build a memorial.

00:16:15.000 It seems bad taste with all those millions of people that died.

00:16:18.000 We're gonna build a memorial.

00:16:20.000 We're gonna build a memorial to the War on Terror.

00:16:22.000 Let's have a look at the War on Terror.

00:16:25.000 What it means, what it meant, why it happened, why a memorial is being built and why the legacy media simply amplifies the propaganda of the corporate state rather than interrogating it and questioning it.

00:16:36.000 Here's the news.

00:16:37.000 No. Here's the effing news.

00:16:39.000 Thanks for watching Fox News.

00:16:41.000 Good day.

00:16:42.000 No. Here's the fucking news. 1.00

00:16:45.000 Remember the war on terror? 1.00

00:16:46.000 Yeah, it was awful.

00:16:48.000 Let's put it behind us.

00:16:49.000 Or commemorate it with a new memorial.

00:16:51.000 Luckily the mainstream media will interrogate the veracity of this endeavor and ensure that this isn't used to facilitate ongoing wars.

00:17:00.000 Or will they just make it seem normal and kind of cute?

00:17:05.000 There is a new memorial being planned to celebrate, commemorate the war on terror.

00:17:11.000 Those of you old enough to actually remember it will not want a memorial because you will remember it as a travesty and a tragedy that caused the deaths of millions of people all over the world.

00:17:20.000 4.5 million is a rough estimate, created problems that we're still living with, geopolitical

00:17:26.000 disasters across the Middle East and in a sense facilitated the new military-industrial 0.89

00:17:32.000 complex that continues to perpetuate its agenda to this day.

00:17:36.000 It's also the issue that defines our time. When people tell the truth about war, the motives

00:17:42.000 for war, the fiasco that is war, whether it's in Afghanistan, Iraq or the current

00:17:46.000 conflict between Ukraine and Russia, those people are silenced and shut down.

00:17:51.000 This is a time where war is perhaps more important than ever because there is a war against the individual, the war against domestic population and numerous planned wars against other superpowers, presumably to facilitate a unipolar global dystopia where none of us have any individual freedom and it seems that they're doing surprisingly well.

00:18:09.000 Let's have a look at this memorial To dread, death, tragedy, travesty and dishonour.

00:18:15.000 Alright?

00:18:16.000 Yeah, here's the news, we are your friends!

00:18:26.000 The news is a television program.

00:18:28.000 The news is not here's some information.

00:18:30.000 Newspapers, mainstream legacy media, they are agenda-led.

00:18:33.000 It is absolute propaganda.

00:18:35.000 Some of it is vicious, overt propaganda.

00:18:38.000 Sponsored by Pfizer.

00:18:39.000 Brought to you by Pfizer.

00:18:41.000 Moderna shot of the tournament.

00:18:43.000 Some of it is more insidious propaganda.

00:18:45.000 Hello, I'm just a neutral expert and yes, we should escalate this war. 0.96

00:18:48.000 Did you get any money from Raytheon?

00:18:50.000 Well, some.

00:18:51.000 You know, like, there's different degrees of propaganda, but it's all propaganda, and this propaganda is fantastic.

00:18:57.000 It's the cozy familiarity of news media that those of us that are around my kind of age lean into for comfort, as if we're watching Cheers or the Golden Girls, a time when television was your kind of friend, or at least you felt that it was.

00:19:11.000 There was a kind of a warmth and a reaching out in good faith.

00:19:15.000 Not the just ongoing, agenda-led, propagandizing, disempowering, lying filth presented to you over a hot steaming mug of Morning Joe.

00:19:25.000 Doesn't smell like Joe. 1.00

00:19:27.000 Smells like bullshit. 1.00

00:19:28.000 Welcome back to CBS Mornings. 0.99

00:19:31.000 As we celebrate the holidays, we're also remembering those who served our nation, including service members who fought in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria.

00:19:39.000 We're not gonna remember them too hard, though.

00:19:41.000 Otherwise, we'll be forced to remember that their lives were squandered and wasted in an attempt to steal resources in a conflict that was not at all connected to the war on terror that it was claimed they were fighting.

00:19:53.000 They may as well have just bombed Finland, except there's no oil in Finland.

00:19:58.000 So it's presented to you as if it's like part of Christmas or something, wasn't it?

00:20:01.000 Like it's time for the holidays.

00:20:03.000 And of course I'm not blaming the individual newscaster.

00:20:05.000 This is just an individual node within a vast network of deception.

00:20:09.000 Let me know in the chat if you agree.

00:20:09.000 You know that.

00:20:11.000 But it's the manner of this presentation.

00:20:13.000 Isn't the legacy media supposed to interrogate and investigate?

00:20:17.000 In the instances when they do do that, you might surmise that there's an agenda behind it.

00:20:22.000 And if you look, you will find one.

00:20:24.000 Oh, it's really interesting.

00:20:25.000 Why are they investigating that issue?

00:20:27.000 Oh, I see, it benefits the powerful.

00:20:28.000 What the news could be saying is, let's have a serious look at the war on terror because millions of people died.

00:20:32.000 Did it benefit anybody?

00:20:34.000 Why were we told that we were having this war?

00:20:36.000 We were told there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, for example, and there just weren't.

00:20:40.000 What's the true legacy of the war on terror?

00:20:42.000 How has it affected our attitude towards militarism and how has it affected US foreign policy?

00:20:46.000 Is this a time It's time for us to radically re-evaluate America's role in the world.

00:20:50.000 Do you want America going around getting engaged in foreign wars that's funded by you?

00:20:54.000 Your funding is.

00:20:55.000 Make no bones about it.

00:20:56.000 And, by the way, that funding isn't reaching those troops that are putting their lives on the line.

00:21:01.000 Significant sums, at least half, maybe as much as 70%, ends up in the hands of Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.

00:21:05.000 That's not hard to do, that.

00:21:08.000 Actually, it is quite hard.

00:21:09.000 We've worked extremely hard and we've been dedicated to it.

00:21:11.000 But it's possible to do it.

00:21:13.000 We do it with you.

00:21:14.000 We do it because we believe that it's necessary.

00:21:16.000 These guys don't.

00:21:18.000 What is their job then?

00:21:19.000 What are they actually doing?

00:21:20.000 They're essentially saying their role is to normalise the agenda of the powerful.

00:21:24.000 Just notice that.

00:21:25.000 Next time you're looking at mainstream news, I don't reckon you should do it.

00:21:27.000 Notice, are they normalising the agenda of the powerful now?

00:21:30.000 This is essentially an advert for big tech. 0.99

00:21:32.000 Is this introducing a piece of authoritarian surveillance technology that is gonna next time I say oh yeah yeah I saw that on the news like you're just seeing the Kellogg's Rooster and just put it in your mouth about thinking hang on a minute would it be just as nutritious to eat the goddamn box? 0.90

00:21:47.000 There's now a bipartisan push on Capitol Hill to build a memorial on the National Mall to honor their sacrifice. 0.91

00:21:54.000 You know that illegal war? 0.59

00:21:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:56.000 Well, we're just gonna honour your sacrifice.

00:21:58.000 You mean when a beloved family member died for no reason?

00:22:01.000 We're gonna honour that.

00:22:01.000 Yeah.

00:22:03.000 Thanks.

00:22:04.000 But the effort has run into some political obstacles in Congress.

00:22:08.000 The effort to build a national global war on terrorism memorial was authorized by Congress in 2017. 1.00

00:22:13.000 The war on terror is always a stupid idea. 1.00

00:22:17.000 It's stupid! 1.00

00:22:18.000 It's a stupid idea. 1.00

00:22:19.000 You can't have a war on terror. 1.00

00:22:21.000 You've made it worse already by doing a war on it.

00:22:24.000 It's abstract.

00:22:25.000 It's diffuse.

00:22:26.000 It has complex undergirdings.

00:22:28.000 It doesn't take place sponsored by nation-states.

00:22:31.000 And if it did, there was one in particular that really stood out.

00:22:34.000 They're a prominent ally of America to this day with old Joe Biden going over there, not making them a pariah, but making them a friend.

00:22:41.000 It's complicated.

00:22:42.000 So the idea that you're going to somehow solidify it as a monolith or an object just shows you the propagandizing mentality of the state to

00:22:52.000 this day.

00:22:52.000 It's just to give you a reality that sort of engulfs your consciousness and stops you thinking straight.

00:22:58.000 The mainstream media supports it, propagates it, benefits from it, is part of it.

00:23:02.000 But it didn't specify when or where construction would begin.

00:23:05.000 It will be built with private donations.

00:23:08.000 Hmm.

00:23:09.000 Well, that's good.

00:23:10.000 Private donations.

00:23:11.000 From whom?

00:23:12.000 Where'd they get the money?

00:23:13.000 What's their agenda?

00:23:14.000 Answer those questions.

00:23:15.000 Be surprised by the outcome.

00:23:17.000 And three sites on the National Mall have been proposed, allowing the remembrance of our longest war to share hallowed ground with memorials to our founding fathers, World War II, Korea, and Vietnam.

00:23:29.000 It's not the tit parade, is it?

00:23:30.000 It's not like the charts.

00:23:32.000 It's not the billboard top ten.

00:23:33.000 Some of our best wars.

00:23:35.000 This war, that was a good one. 1.00

00:23:37.000 That one, sorry about that.

00:23:38.000 This one, that was illegal.

00:23:39.000 This one, this is the longest one.

00:23:42.000 Like, it's still happening.

00:23:43.000 I mean, it's been normalized to the point where I don't even really think about it anymore, except with a heavy heart.

00:23:49.000 I don't think, should we build a statue to that?

00:23:51.000 I think, should we stop doing it?

00:23:53.000 This has been our nation's longest war.

00:23:56.000 Here you go, yet more propaganda.

00:23:57.000 Do you know what would make this look great?

00:23:59.000 If we had two female people from Congress, one from each party, to show that we are united in propagandizing the population. 1.00

00:24:07.000 That would look nice.

00:24:08.000 How about actually having some integrity?

00:24:11.000 Some authenticity?

00:24:12.000 Some values?

00:24:12.000 Some principles?

00:24:13.000 We could never do that.

00:24:14.000 Iowa Senator Joni Ernst, a Republican, and New Hampshire Democrat Maggie Hassan are leading a bipartisan effort to mandate the Global War on Terror memorial be built on the Mall.

00:24:23.000 It's amazing that what we're presented is a full argument between two parties who are funded in the exact same way, who have basically the same agenda.

00:24:31.000 They're occasionally brought together either to fund a war or to build a monolith to an unnecessary and illegal war.

00:24:39.000 Well, what united you two?

00:24:41.000 I suppose just our love of war.

00:24:43.000 At least 54 other senators are also on board.

00:24:46.000 Getting agreement across the aisle shouldn't be hard.

00:24:49.000 This is not news, is it?

00:24:50.000 This is the amplification of an existing message.

00:24:52.000 Why is that person not going, what the hell are you doing?

00:24:55.000 What do you mean a memorial for a war?

00:24:57.000 This is appalling.

00:24:58.000 Why are you still doing this stuff?

00:24:59.000 Do you have stocks and shares in anything that's connected to this?

00:25:02.000 What's your relationship with Raytheon and LockheedMine?

00:25:05.000 Just tell us again how much money they spend on donations to your party every year.

00:25:09.000 Get out! 0.98

00:25:10.000 That's what the media is supposed to be doing. 0.88

00:25:11.000 But when people actually do stuff like that, do you know what the media do?

00:25:13.000 they destroy them. Exactly when you think about our veterans men and women who serve

00:25:18.000 don't ask each other what political party they're in as they go into danger. The fact that this

00:25:24.000 apocryphal service person doesn't ask which party is leading them to war is presented here as a sort

00:25:31.000 of a cozy maxim around loyalty somehow.

00:25:34.000 But it wouldn't matter if they did ask because the answer would be both of them.

00:25:38.000 All the time.

00:25:39.000 Always.

00:25:40.000 Because you cannot oppose war anymore because the interests that drive war are transcendent of democracy.

00:25:46.000 regardless of who's in this position or the position of administration, you will still be getting wars as exemplified

00:25:51.000 by the two of us apparent opponents sat here together cozily discussing a memorial to an

00:25:57.000 imaginary war that somehow caused actual deaths.

00:26:01.000 So it's not like, oh, isn't it great that people don't ask questions?

00:26:04.000 The fact is it doesn't matter if you ask questions because the answer is these interests are beyond party politics.

00:26:09.000 Party politics is irrelevant and really all these people are at this point are actors.

00:26:13.000 This is a production. These two congresspeople are actors.

00:26:16.000 You have a spectacle.

00:26:17.000 It's a spectacle.

00:26:17.000 It's an illusion.

00:26:18.000 matter what they say, what they do or what they want. The news media just amplifies of

00:26:21.000 that message. Congress people are not going, we're here to represent the American people,

00:26:25.000 what do the American people want, how do we ensure that their will is enacted through

00:26:29.000 us? They're not doing that, are they? Plainly, you can see that. The media aren't going,

00:26:32.000 is what you're saying true? Why are you doing that? Hey, wait a minute, I've got some questions.

00:26:35.000 So what do you have? You have a spectacle. It's a spectacle.

00:26:38.000 It's an illusion. It is almost actually, I suppose, the Matrix. Don't ask each

00:26:42.000 other what political party they're in as they go into danger on behalf of their...

00:26:46.000 On behalf of their who?

00:26:48.000 You're about to say fellow Americans?

00:26:50.000 Is that what it was?

00:26:51.000 Did anyone believe at this point that if the war on terror had not happened, actual Americans in America would be any worse off than they are today?

00:26:59.000 That the world would be any worse off than it is today?

00:27:02.000 I've not heard any convincing arguments.

00:27:04.000 Most people say it caused ISIS.

00:27:06.000 The fractures and disputes in the Middle Eastern region are the direct legacy of that.

00:27:10.000 Millions of children died.

00:27:12.000 Millions of service people, the people indeed that this congressperson is talking about, died as a result of it.

00:27:16.000 What was gained?

00:27:17.000 What can we go, well there you go, Halliburton did well out of it and Dick Cheney's looking good.

00:27:21.000 Remember that's when the Republican Party were the party of war.

00:27:24.000 Now the Democrat Party are the party of war.

00:27:26.000 Almost as if really there's an agenda and they're just like the fleas on the back of the dog of war.

00:27:31.000 We know that it is the right thing to do to place a Global War on Terror memorial on the National Mall.

00:27:38.000 We all know that.

00:27:41.000 Oh my god, reality is broken.

00:27:42.000 It's actually broken.

00:27:43.000 They've broken it.

00:27:44.000 They've broken actual reality now.

00:27:46.000 We're gonna have to amend it.

00:27:47.000 We're gonna have to put reality back together.

00:27:49.000 Nothing less than a total revolution beginning with your individual consciousness but ending with the replacement of all of our existing systems will be sufficient to amend the horror that they have wreaked upon our planet.

00:27:59.000 Thanks for joining us!

00:28:00.000 We want to make sure that we're able to honour those that have participated in our nation's most recent war while they are still with us.

00:28:08.000 They're presenting this as honouring and commemorating brave dead service people, but what they're actually doing is normalising a corporate, commercial, colonial, imperialist endeavour that was based on a lie and remains a lie.

00:28:22.000 Do you see how the trick happens?

00:28:24.000 See, even in criticising it, you could get people to go, oh, you don't care about those dead service people.

00:28:29.000 Yeah, I do actually.

00:28:30.000 I do care about them.

00:28:31.000 That's why I think this whole endeavour is pretty disgusting.

00:28:34.000 Many of them are questioning, does my country understand the sacrifice that I gave?

00:28:40.000 And we want to tell them that yes, we honor you.

00:28:45.000 So what is this?

00:28:46.000 A sort of a play?

00:28:47.000 A puppet show?

00:28:48.000 They may say, does my country recognize the sacrifice of my life?

00:28:53.000 They're dead now.

00:28:54.000 This is a ghost.

00:28:55.000 And we're saying, yes, cause of statue.

00:28:57.000 Now the bill actually unanimously passed a Senate committee chaired by Joe Manchin.

00:29:02.000 The senators are now hoping to attach it to the national defense spending bill that the Senate will take up next week.

00:29:08.000 What?

00:29:09.000 Nationals?

00:29:09.000 What?

00:29:09.000 Sorry, more expenditure for... Are there wars going on now?

00:29:13.000 How about this as a memorial to those dead people?

00:29:17.000 Stop involving America in unnecessary, unwinnable wars.

00:29:21.000 Are there any unnecessary, unwinnable wars happening right now?

00:29:25.000 Yeah, loads.

00:29:26.000 The one we're building this statue to and a great big new one that some people think will become an actual hot boots on the ground war any day now.

00:29:35.000 And there is some indication that troops are being sent to Ukraine in spite the president saying that would never happen.

00:29:42.000 It's happening.

00:29:42.000 The foundation intends to not only break ground, but complete construction and open the memorial to the public, perhaps right back there.

00:29:50.000 There might be a statue there one day beyond that duck.

00:29:53.000 Here's the news.

00:29:54.000 Thanks for tuning in.

00:29:55.000 If you need to know anything else that might happen beyond a duck, you can rely on us for other near-duck related information.

00:30:02.000 If, however, you require integrity, insight, transparency, and potentially holding the powerful to account, which I don't think that is related to ducks, you probably should watch something Right back there, by the end of the decade.

00:30:18.000 And I said decade, not decade.

00:30:19.000 Chris, a generation of men and women in their service and as so many said in that piece, you don't want that slap in the face at this point.

00:30:26.000 Thank you.

00:30:28.000 What?

00:30:29.000 No one likes the metaphorical slap in the face of not building an unnecessary statue but I bet they like even less the actual physical bullets in the guts of an unnecessary war where a foreign territory was invaded under false pretenses.

00:30:42.000 Also don't you think that what the statue should actually just be the face of an American service person being slapped by a handful of money held by Jules W Bush or Joe Biden, don't matter, they both agreed that it should happen.

00:30:55.000 This is from The Intercept.

00:30:56.000 You may not know that there's a memorial planned for the global war on terror.

00:31:00.000 President Donald Trump signed legislation approving the memorial back in 2017.

00:31:04.000 The bill created an exception to the commemorative works act of 1986 which requires the passage of at least 10 years after the official end of a war before a memorial to it can be constructed in Washington DC.

00:31:14.000 That was obviously unworkable regarding the global war on terror because it's still happening.

00:31:19.000 I think I need to remember something that's still happening.

00:31:22.000 And now a statue for the increasing centralization of power, surveillance, and ongoing lies.

00:31:27.000 Why do we need to remember that?

00:31:28.000 It's happening now.

00:31:29.000 Well, can't hurt.

00:31:30.000 It's a nice statue. 0.98

00:31:31.000 It's you being slapped around the face with some money. 0.54

00:31:34.000 Do it then. 0.99

00:31:35.000 We're gonna put it by that duck. 0.95

00:31:36.000 There's no design yet, but the foundation funding the memorial is conducting a public survey for ideas through October 17th.

00:31:43.000 Here's the survey.

00:31:44.000 When someone stands before the GWOT memorial, what do you hope they feel?

00:31:49.000 Oh my god, what the hell's going on in the world?

00:31:52.000 Feel?

00:31:53.000 That's emotions now!

00:31:54.000 We're into the realm of psychic archetypes.

00:31:56.000 Here's some of the things that you might want the statue to make you feel.

00:31:59.000 Honour, healing, empowerment, unity, understanding, patriotism, peace.

00:32:04.000 That's not a statue.

00:32:05.000 That's fentanyl.

00:32:06.000 You can't induce that with a statue.

00:32:09.000 You have to get the Sackler family to drug you so that your consciousness is below reality now. 0.99

00:32:14.000 Because if you're awake, you'll look at the statue and go, Hang on a minute, what I feel is hypocrisy, anger, rage, disgust.

00:32:20.000 That there needs to be an entirely new system.

00:32:23.000 That we need to form our own militias and oppose the people behind this statue and the war on terror and ensure that we are able to run our own communities.

00:32:31.000 We demand democracy.

00:32:32.000 Give them some Fentanyl!

00:32:33.000 Give them some Fentanyl!

00:32:34.000 You'll note that none of the options are emotions such as rage-fueled sorrow or the urge to prosecute war criminals.

00:32:40.000 Given this, you may not be surprised to learn that the honorary chair of the foundation is George W. Bush, who happens to be the president who birthed the global war on terror with the invasions of Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraq in 2003.

00:32:51.000 The foundation's funders include 7-Eleven, Oh my god.

00:32:55.000 There's a war on terror with 7-11.

00:32:55.000 7-11?

00:32:59.000 No matter whether it's 7 or 11 or the hours between them, you can commemorate an unnecessary war and have a slushie.

00:33:07.000 Amazon and Baker Bots, a powerhouse Texas law firm named after James Baker, Secretary of State for the first George Bush.

00:33:15.000 He's one of the people that came up with the war and now he's funding the statue for his own mad war. 0.80

00:33:18.000 God.

00:33:19.000 A recent estimate by the Costs of War Project at Brown University found that over 4.5 million people have died thanks to the direct and indirect effects of conflict in post-911 war zones.

00:33:30.000 Of these, about 10,000 are Americans, including those who died on September 11, 2001, or during the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

00:33:38.000 The Costs of War Project has also calculated that the price of the global war on terror has been about $6 trillion so far, And we'll have to spend another $2 trillion on care for veterans in the future for an eventual total cost of $8 trillion.

00:33:52.000 Some of this money was essentially set on fire and has disappeared.

00:33:56.000 But a lot of it is still here in the US, in particular in the lovely suburbs surrounding the Defense Department in Northern Virginia.

00:34:02.000 Since the Global War and Terror Memorial is going to be right by Arlington Memorial Bridge, there could be complimentary bus trips across the Potomac, allowing visitors to gape at all the mansions, $108,000 Range Rovers and more recently luxury Pickleball Courts they purchased for defence contractors.

00:34:19.000 The mainstream media simply amplifies the propaganda of the state and the military-industrial complex, whereas we want to interrogate and investigate the facts so that we can bring you truth, so that we can mutually awaken together, which frankly is impossible for us to do without our commercial partners and sponsors, and by God are they loyal.

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00:35:14.000 They're supporting us.

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00:35:16.000 Let's get some stickers out of this thing.

00:35:18.000 Let's go back to the egregious, awful propaganda of the mainstream media that like to pretend that what they're doing is actual news, when what they're doing is the amplification of propaganda without inquiry and question.

00:35:30.000 Remember when George W Bush CIA briefers gave him a presentation on August 6th 2001 titled Bin Laden determined to strike in the US?

00:35:39.000 And part of it warned that the FBI had information that indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings.

00:35:46.000 And other warnings his administration received were titled Bin Laden attacks may be imminent and Bin Laden planning high-profile attacks.

00:35:52.000 And how Vice President Dick Cheney asked the CIA whether Al Qaeda might be pretending to be about to attack America just to fool us into expending resources in response.

00:36:01.000 This is just the tip of a 9-11 iceberg that I know many of you are familiar with when it comes to the potential for deep state involvement that you can investigate for yourself, although we have discussed it elsewhere in some depth.

00:36:14.000 Back in 2004, at the White House Correspondents Association dinner, Bush joshed about looking for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction in the Oval Office, since they hadn't turned up anywhere else.

00:36:23.000 Those weapons of mass destruction gotta be somewhere.

00:36:30.000 Nope, no weapons over there.

00:36:31.000 It's unbelievable, isn't it?

00:36:35.000 4.5 million people died and it's like, oh, those weapons of mass destruction, where were they, huh?

00:36:39.000 Wink wink.

00:36:40.000 Maybe under here.

00:36:42.000 At the same event six years later in 2010, President Barack Obama kidded about killing the Jonas Brothers with a Predator drone.

00:36:49.000 The Jonas Brothers are here.

00:36:51.000 Sasha and Malia are huge fans, but boys don't get any ideas.

00:36:55.000 I have two words for you.

00:36:56.000 Predator drones.

00:37:00.000 You will never see it coming. 0.58

00:37:02.000 Again, the joke here is that Obama murdered American citizens with drones and according to a 2013 book told aides that I'm really good at killing people.

00:37:10.000 It's not really the legacy of Barack Obama that we're encouraged to consider, is it?

00:37:15.000 That, you know, he participated in murder and was good at murder.

00:37:20.000 Maybe these two videos could play continuously at the Global War and Terror Memorial so everyone will realize there's no reason we can't have some fun with this whole thing.

00:37:26.000 So what we'd like to draw your attention to is the way that the mainstream media doesn't investigate this story at all, just amplifies an existing message, the way it's presented as a bipartisan endeavor of unity, the brushing over of the true causes of the war on terror and the true consequences of the war on terror, and an attempt to make any anti-war sentiment unpatriotic or adversarial to the people who gave their lives, when it is in fact That is how narrativization works.

00:37:54.000 You associate someone with a legitimate sense of inquiry and investigation with something negative.

00:37:59.000 Oh, if you don't like this memorial and therefore the war on terror, which was illegal and based on lies, then you are not supportive of the troops.

00:38:05.000 No, no, no, no.

00:38:07.000 I am supportive of the troops, so much so that I'd like them not to pointlessly die in order to create opportunities for profit for the military-industrial complex.

00:38:16.000 And to create further oppositions for unipolar exploitation of the planet and the needless perpetuation of war that continues to this day.

00:38:23.000 You don't need a memorial to the war on terror.

00:38:25.000 The war on terror is still happening.

00:38:27.000 So our other wars and the wars that we are in are increasing in their tenacity, if not their efficacy.

00:38:33.000 What's required here is a news media that asks valid questions.

00:38:38.000 What's required is a Congress where people do not unite for photo ops and propaganda, but interrogate the politics of America, both domestically and internationally.

00:38:47.000 A suitable memorial for the war on terror is your awakening, your investigation of facts, your rejection of legacy media, your rejection of systemic corrupt politics that's funded by a donor class and sets of interests that are transcendent of democracy.

00:39:02.000 That's the memorial they deserve.

00:39:04.000 That's the memorial that we are suggesting.

00:39:07.000 Well that's just what I think.

00:39:08.000 Let me know what you think in the chat.

00:39:09.000 Go on, let me know.

00:39:10.000 No, see you in a second.

00:39:11.000 Thanks for watching Fox News. 0.99

00:39:14.000 No, here's the fucking news. 0.99

00:39:17.000 So there you are, commemorating a war that's still happening. 0.99

00:39:21.000 The war on terror, a stain on our culture, an example how the media normalizes and amplifies the messages of the powerful instead of interrogating and investigating.

00:39:32.000 Unless, of course, they are investigations that are designed to bring down dissent and dissidents and stop open conversation.

00:39:39.000 We are moving now.

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00:40:05.000 So click the link and join us for this conversation.

00:40:07.000 Dr. John, thanks for joining us today.

00:40:10.000 If only all those things were true, Russell.

00:40:12.000 Thank you for having me.

00:40:14.000 There is certainly a degree of truth in the fact that I believe that you are a man who believes in transparency, openness, communication and genuine science and throughout the pandemic period you were certainly one of the voices that I leant into.

00:40:26.000 Thank you.

00:40:28.000 Mate, so let's just start off broadly.

00:40:31.000 We've got a lot of subjects to cover in our conversation and I'm reminded continually now that the point of what we do is to ensure that the agenda of the establishment and the legacy media does not go unchallenged.

00:40:44.000 That is the function of what we're doing.

00:40:46.000 Of course, you came to prominence during the pandemic period and during that time the public trust in various government institutions, in particular in the United States, you might say that the CDC, FDA, but in our country too and across the world, trust in media and trust in government institutions is failing and falling apart.

00:41:08.000 I wonder what you think about the latest round of COVID vaccines in the US, and I wonder what you think about the management and manipulation of that myocarditis information between males, the sort of use of those studies.

00:41:21.000 So perhaps you can start with a couple of examples there.

00:41:24.000 The new monetization and charges for the Pfizer and Moderna shots.

00:41:27.000 So I wonder what you feel about that, Doc.

00:41:29.000 Yeah, so I think the new shots are going to be, I think it's $120 each, Russell, per shot or slightly more.

00:41:38.000 And yet the advice in the United States is still to vaccinate with the updated vaccines everyone that's over the age of six months.

00:41:47.000 And that's really concerning because, you know, the risk-benefit analyses that are often quoted are those from really early on in the pandemic when Covid was.

00:41:56.000 You know, still a dangerous disease to some people, but now the situation's really changed quite dramatically.

00:42:03.000 You know, vaccines can have some effect, did have some effect early in the pandemic.

00:42:08.000 Now, everyone's been exposed to COVID multiple times, and we have this wonderful thing called the immune system, and it learns to recognize these infections.

00:42:18.000 It learns to fight these infections.

00:42:21.000 And for the vast majority of people now, the vast majority, Covid is a very mild irritation.

00:42:27.000 I guess pretty well everyone watching who's bothered to test will have had Covid in the last year or two or have a partner or a child or someone who's had Covid in the last year or two, and they found it to be a somewhat irritating but pretty mild disease, which is for the vast majority of people.

00:42:45.000 So quite why there's this discrepancy between the vaccination protocols in the United States, everyone over six months of age, and the United Kingdom, where it's just I think it's over 65 and people with high risk.

00:43:00.000 I mean, you know, this is like a 64 and a half year difference in the recommendations.

00:43:08.000 And, you know, if both of these authorizing bodies are working on the same data, why are they coming to such different conclusions?

00:43:17.000 It really is quite hard to explain where the evidence is coming from.

00:43:22.000 Yeah, it is, and it makes you wonder if the evidence can be interpreted so differently.

00:43:29.000 What type of evidence is it, and what kind of agenda is ultimately driving it?

00:43:35.000 Increasingly as well, many of the And again, one needn't be conspiratorial to inquire about these things, nor assume mendacity where ineptitude will do.

00:43:51.000 But it seems that social distancing, surface cleaning, face covering, there wasn't a great deal of evidence for much of that.

00:44:00.000 It makes me obviously wonder what on earth was motivating all of that conduct.

00:44:05.000 Those things, it doesn't cost too much to wash your hands when you come in the house, and if that didn't do any good, it's not such a big deal.

00:44:11.000 But this includes the non-pharmaceutical interventions.

00:44:16.000 And of course, that includes lockdowns.

00:44:19.000 That includes quarantine hotels, isolation.

00:44:25.000 That includes the, remember this term we had, the pingdemic, when people were pinged on their phones and couldn't couldn't do things.

00:44:32.000 It includes all of these things, but particularly the lockdown strategies.

00:44:36.000 And we've actually had data just published a week or so ago by the UK Health Security Agency.

00:44:42.000 And to be fair here, the UK Health Security Agency are going through what they did really quite systematically.

00:44:50.000 And what they're doing is they're looking at thousands of pieces of literature to try and work out what the evidence base is for what they did.

00:44:58.000 But this latest publication from the UK Health Security Agency had 151 studies.

00:45:04.000 So they narrowed it down to that, looking at studies where there was only one thing being studied at a time.

00:45:10.000 And they reviewed 151 studies, and they plotted what they call an evidence gap map.

00:45:18.000 And you can download this as a spreadsheet, and there's loads of places where the evidence is limited.

00:45:24.000 Highly limited.

00:45:25.000 So only 19 of the 151 studies reported effective measures to reduce infection at the individual level.

00:45:33.000 And most of those were to do with mask wearing.

00:45:36.000 And two-thirds of the evidence was based on modeling studies.

00:45:41.000 So 100 out of 151 of these studies were based on modeling.

00:45:45.000 And my recollection of this, when the first lockdown started, is the government were hoping to get away with it.

00:45:52.000 But then we had these modeling predictions that showed tremendous amounts of death and everything from COVID.

00:45:59.000 But it turns out these were based on models which have been, well, I think the least we can say is they've been disputed since then.

00:46:07.000 So, so much of the evidence was based on modeling rather than based on what we would call empiricism, real world collecting data.

00:46:16.000 And that's what science is.

00:46:17.000 Science is not someone sitting on a computer thinking, oh, I wonder what would happen if.

00:46:22.000 You know, science is what happens in the real world.

00:46:25.000 And to their credit, I just want to give you a couple of quotes actually, Russell, here.

00:46:29.000 To the credit, the UK Health Security Agency have said, the evidence available for this category is therefore likely to be weak.

00:46:36.000 This is evidence to reduce infections, both in terms of study design and potential bias.

00:46:44.000 Studies reporting on travel and border restrictions, they say, a weak evidence base in terms of study design.

00:46:50.000 Overall, they say, the body of evidence available on effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical interventions in the UK provides weak evidence in terms of study design.

00:47:02.000 So they have acknowledged this, which is good to see, because if you acknowledge the mistakes, the public are pretty forgiven.

00:47:08.000 OK, it was a pandemic.

00:47:10.000 We didn't know quite what was going on for a while.

00:47:13.000 But they now acknowledge that it was weak and they do say if there is a future pandemic, which there will be, I won't go into that one at the moment, but they say that there should be a method for collecting feedback empirically as we go along, which is certainly true.

00:47:34.000 But looking back, you know, were these huge lockdowns, this massive financial cost, this social cost, this psychiatric cost, Looking back, it was based primarily on mathematical models.

00:47:47.000 And people understand those better than me, but they're not the best way to conduct national policy.

00:47:53.000 In addition to this, if not pseudoscience, then modelling that you have explained is flawed, plainly is flawed, based on the emergent evidence.

00:48:03.000 And you're right, it is to the credit of that agency that they're at least willing to communicate that.

00:48:08.000 Plainly there was a degree of hysteria and it's sort of harder to speculate on the impact of something as abstract as fear and the use of fear and the use of hysteria and certainly it's encouraging to hear that in the event of a let's call it inevitable future pandemic the data would be compiled as the event unfolded.

00:48:33.000 What my concern is, and this is again sort of rather more difficult to talk about, particularly with someone as committed to using evidence as you are, which is perhaps one of the most laudable aspects of the work that you do, is the potential that in a way we were, and I'm not suggesting this was deliberate, primed for authoritarian measures that prior to the pandemic would have been unacceptable.

00:48:58.000 The idea that you could shut down the economy.

00:49:00.000 I remember when I first heard that football was being cancelled, thinking, what?

00:49:05.000 No, no, no, that can't happen.

00:49:08.000 And the normalisation of individual incarceration, the normalisation of massive medical programmes that are mandated or near mandated, and we've touched already on the questions that that's left in its wake.

00:49:21.000 Suggest to me that with forthcoming potential issues of scale, you know, and you can pick your issue really, whether it's climate change, food shortages, water shortages, necessity to regulate agriculture as a result of fertilizers, the need to shut down individual farming practices, there are so many issues and ideas that appear to be Being defined by a top-down ideology, i.e.

00:49:52.000 you hear from the WEF or the WHO or some sort of unelected but somehow publicly funded, as well as privately funded in the case of the WHO entity, coming up with some ideas that sort of find their way into government.

00:50:06.000 Increasingly this seems common and like an event of the scale of the pandemic, doesn't it leave us open to the possibility that a kind of If not social engineering, a sort of piloting may have taken place.

00:50:18.000 I don't mean that from a conspiracy theory perspective per se, Doctor.

00:50:22.000 I just mean a convergence of interest that led to those measures that evidently were not scientifically undergirded could be repeated in other circumstances.

00:50:30.000 I mean, there was certainly a lot of fear going on, wasn't there?

00:50:34.000 And I think the reason that people were compliant because there was fear, and to be fair, there was genuine unknowns, although I think Facts became available much earlier than they were often shared with the hoi polloi like you and me.

00:50:49.000 And I think we can rest assured, Russell, that people that are interested in organizing, interested in administration, interested in controlling populations, will have taken a fairly thick set of notes from the pandemic.

00:51:09.000 They will have noticed what works, what doesn't work.

00:51:13.000 And I think they'll have learned a lot of control.

00:51:16.000 Control of social media being one example.

00:51:20.000 That started on pretty early in the pandemic.

00:51:24.000 Control of news.

00:51:27.000 The influence of regulatory bodies and the way that they interact with political bodies.

00:51:34.000 Vested interest that would like to control populations in a more detailed way, I think, will have learned one heck of a lot from what worked and what didn't work in the pandemic.

00:51:48.000 Now, the UK Health Security Agency are rightly trying to take that knowledge to apply it to improving health in the future, which of course everyone would applaud.

00:51:59.000 But, you know, have people who have slightly questionable motives and throughout history people with questionable motives have arisen in the past?

00:52:09.000 I think we can assume that they've learned quite a lot from this as well.

00:52:15.000 Yes, and perhaps again less tangentially, the recent, relatively recent, or proposed WHO pandemic treaty that could grant legislative powers to a non-sovereign transnational body.

00:52:32.000 I see that it's been, you know, I don't know, in Canada there's some opposition to it, but it feels like the sort of thing that Could happen and it certainly seems like there's an like during the pandemic period the WHO were granted incredible authority.

00:52:46.000 The platform that we've been recently demonetized, I'll speak for myself, like you know YouTube still uses WHO guidelines to govern its own community or to form its own community for guidelines.

00:52:58.000 I wonder what your views are or if you have concerns about a potential WHO pandemic treaty and how that could become biased or exploited?

00:53:07.000 Yeah, so this is based on the amendment of the, I'm pretty sure it was 2005, International Health Regulations.

00:53:15.000 So health regulations were put in in 2005, updating previous regulations.

00:53:21.000 And they were fairly reasonable.

00:53:24.000 They said things like, I'm not giving direct quotes here, but quite often they said this will not be mandatory in nation states, it will be advisory.

00:53:34.000 But if you read these international health regulations amendments, very often in a sentence all they've done is taken out one word like not.

00:53:43.000 So if you go from, these will not be mandatory, and you take out the word not, what are you left with?

00:53:50.000 These become mandatory.

00:53:55.000 And there's a whole load of these.

00:53:57.000 I have read through them all and they really are quite concerning.

00:54:02.000 My interpretation of it is, is that the World Health Organization can define in the future when these are probably going to be adopted, and we haven't got much time to reject these.

00:54:13.000 Because what seems to be happening is that these are going to be accepted unless the head of state of a country, unless Mr. Sunak actually writes to the WHO invoking a particular section and saying, no, this won't apply to the UK.

00:54:27.000 So if Mr. Sunak's watching, I would ask him to do that or to certainly consider that.

00:54:33.000 But it's almost that these are just going to click into place.

00:54:37.000 And my understanding is that the World Health Organization can define a public health emergency, which could be a pandemic, or it could be a nuclear leak, or it could be a food shortage.

00:54:51.000 Or it could be, basically, however they want to define it.

00:54:56.000 They can then make rules passing these down to the member states.

00:55:00.000 But my concern is that these would then have the power of law in the member states.

00:55:06.000 So I have made videos about these IHRs in the past and people say, well, I'm not going to do that.

00:55:13.000 I won't be complying with that.

00:55:14.000 Well, actually, you're flipping well-willed if the police are forcing you to.

00:55:18.000 This is the whole point.

00:55:19.000 You know, the state has powers to enforce things.

00:55:22.000 So fortunately, you're right, in Canada there's opposition, and we have interviewed people opposing that in Canada.

00:55:22.000 You have no choice.

00:55:30.000 But in the United Kingdom, as you know, we have this idea where you can get 100,000 signatures.

00:55:36.000 for a particular topic.

00:55:37.000 And Tess Lorry, God bless her, Dr. Tess Lorry, she opened this petition quite a few months ago now.

00:55:45.000 It closed, I think, a couple of days ago, but it was well over the 100,000, I think 115,000.

00:55:50.000 So we should have a debate in Parliament now on whether these should be accepted or rejected.

00:55:56.000 So at least it's got to that stage.

00:55:58.000 But why did it necessitate a public petition for that?

00:56:03.000 You know, you would hope that the Civil servants and things will be saying to the Prime Minister, oh by the way Prime Minister, you know you've only got so long if you want to reject this.

00:56:13.000 It seemed like this process was just sort of carrying on inevitably, which was concerning.

00:56:19.000 So we should be getting that debate.

00:56:21.000 And as well as that, another slightly encouraging thing on debates is Andrew Bridgen has been awarded a adjournment debate on the 20th of October to debate excess deaths.

00:56:34.000 Now, when we say debate, I would imagine there's probably going to be as many people in the chamber as there were for this last statement on vaccine dangers, which was, I think, about two MPs stayed, I think.

00:56:45.000 But the Minister has to give a response.

00:56:47.000 But the point is, once you've got the debate, once it's an official government debate, whether it's on the international health regulations, which we'll get, or whether it's on excess deaths, that means it's in Hansard.

00:56:56.000 It's official.

00:56:58.000 And once it's officially documented, maybe that will encourage others to take more action on this, because people won't be able to say, well, we didn't know about that.

00:57:11.000 Well, yeah, you do kind of, because it's in Hansard.

00:57:14.000 It's actually possible to see the ghost of democracy inhabiting its institutions.

00:57:21.000 The momentum inertia, as you suggest, of power is continually carrying us towards centralised, unelected, globalised power, often supported by billionaires under the guise of philanthropy.

00:57:36.000 But in our echoey, dusty old chambers of democracy, like a mouse fart, you can almost just detect Oh, you have to have a debate on that, you know, that a couple of people might go to or attend.

00:57:50.000 Oh, if you get 100,000 signatures on a petition, they will have to consider that.

00:57:56.000 It's almost like the institutions themselves and the principles themselves already exist.

00:58:03.000 And I suppose for you, someone who's like dedicated their life to public service prior

00:58:07.000 to this incarnation as an online truth teller, you must have a great connection to when something

00:58:13.000 like the National Health Service, how publicly funded, formally at least, a health service

00:58:17.000 in the country of the UK was sort of a proud monument to unity and togetherness.

00:58:23.000 And God, it went through the various slurs and slams of, oh, it's a waste of money and

00:58:28.000 everything should be privatised and slowly sort of vampired from the outside to sort

00:58:33.000 of piece by piece, it's ultimately privatised.

00:58:37.000 I wonder sometimes, John, how you feel about the potential of meeting these poly-crises, like that, you know, like one minute it's like the WHO are just about to pass this bill, we've only got a minute, this new online legislation has just been passed that means that platforms that host people that dissent will be able to be, have their, you know, their owners arrested, you know, like I've been talking to, you know, Rumble, about this.

00:59:07.000 Rumble is something that could become illegalized, and of course they'll say hate speech is the problem, but when it comes, it's sort of comparable to the claim that Ukraine is a humanitarian war.

00:59:19.000 What about the US imperialist projects in North Africa and the Middle East have led you to believe that when they get involved in a conflict it's with a humanitarian motivation?

00:59:29.000 It's very difficult to maintain that.

00:59:31.000 How do you feel, John, about the small victories, like a debate being held in front of a couple of people or some signatories, when there are these poly-crises of legislature simultaneously passing all around the world, and what appears to be a mass centralising of power and the introduction of new means and measures, whether they are legislative or technological, that appear to be about, as you said earlier, the induction of control?

00:59:59.000 It does all seem to be in one direction, doesn't it?

01:00:02.000 It does seem to be more towards centralised control.

01:00:07.000 One of the things that just really grieves me is all the things that we're missing out on.

01:00:12.000 We could talk about the administrative things and the political things, but if you just take some things as simple as, you know, talking about pharmacy, talking about therapeutic molecules, You know, things that actually do you good.

01:00:25.000 So if you go to your doctor, he can prescribe something as long as it's in this book.

01:00:30.000 Well, the electronic version of it now, the British National Formula.

01:00:35.000 And it seems to me that this only represents a very small subset of the therapeutic molecules that are potentially available.

01:00:44.000 I want to give you just a couple of examples, if you don't mind.

01:00:49.000 There's a fungus called lion's mane.

01:00:52.000 It's called Lion's Mane because it looks like a lion's mane, it's all straggly.

01:00:56.000 I hasten to add this is 100% legal, 100% not hallucinogenic.

01:01:02.000 I've talked to a couple of people, one guy who had quite bad post-concussive disorder, the brain fibres in his brain were affected.

01:01:12.000 And he took this lion's mane for about a week and he started to feel better.

01:01:16.000 And he took it for a month and he felt a lot better.

01:01:18.000 Now, of course, we're not prescribing on this channel.

01:01:19.000 We're not telling people to go out and take lion's mane.

01:01:22.000 But the point is, that's interesting.

01:01:24.000 That's interesting.

01:01:25.000 There's almost certainly molecules in there which can promote the healing of nerve cells to some extent.

01:01:32.000 And that's like a holy grail.

01:01:34.000 You know, for 40 years I taught nerve cells do not regenerate.

01:01:39.000 Well, it appears they may be stimulated to be generating, but of course that's a natural molecule, so it'd probably be different to patent.

01:01:46.000 Difficult to patent that.

01:01:48.000 So are we missing out on this whole class of potentially useful drugs?

01:01:53.000 So many things in nature.

01:01:55.000 So if you look at two of the most successful drugs in history, we've got antibiotics.

01:02:00.000 Everyone knows they come from mould.

01:02:02.000 Moulds make them to protect themselves against bacterial infection. 1.00

01:02:05.000 And ivermectin, even ignoring the most recent debate, has just revolutionized the treatment of parasitic diseases around the world.

01:02:13.000 Pretty well eradicated river blindness and elephantiasis in Africa.

01:02:18.000 And that comes, the bacteria actually make that to protect themselves against other things in the environment.

01:02:24.000 So how many of these molecules are we missing out on?

01:02:26.000 And isn't that just so sad that people could be dying of things, that molecules are selected for their ability to go through a trial process to make money rather than go through some form of evidence-gathering process in order to help people.

01:02:43.000 It just seems so sad to me that this is happening.

01:02:46.000 And this is because it's facilitated because we have this centralised authorities and you can understand that doctors uh... nurse practitioners whatever are afraid to go against

01:02:59.000 the guidelines because

01:03:01.000 if they do when something goes wrong you know the first question the judge is going to ask is

01:03:06.000 what did you follow the guidelines did you follow the national guidelines

01:03:10.000 that people are trying to go outside the guidelines and then this is a whole

01:03:12.000 other issue that could be a revolution in psychiatry about the uh... the mushrooms that we can't use because

01:03:18.000 they are illegal the psilocybin type mushrooms

01:03:21.000 But trials going on those now, for example with micro-dosing, is remarkably promising for various forms of mental distress, such as anxiety and depression.

01:03:29.000 And for those of us that have had anxiety and depression, it's awful!

01:03:35.000 You know, we're missing out on alleviations of this.

01:03:39.000 It's just very, very sad that all these molecules have been provided.

01:03:44.000 We're only allowed a very small subset of these molecules.

01:03:48.000 Sad situation.

01:03:50.000 Yes, and it seems that it's carefully curated what is permissive and it appears, as you've said, that profitability and control continue to be important criteria in which avenues of research are conducted and which are left unignored.

01:04:07.000 I suppose there's an optimism in that that I often find in the kind of jaws of this deadly apocalypse that Even when talking about recently the likelihood that were a Republican candidate to win in 2024 they would immediately shift their focus from exacerbating conditions and tensions between Russia to provoking China and I'm just struck that there isn't a presidential candidate or a political movement that says we won't have a war

01:04:35.000 With anybody.

01:04:36.000 I mean, of course, there is Bobby Kennedy and Cornel West and there are, you know, sort of blessedly great independents.

01:04:42.000 But when you talk about institutional thinking, whether it's in the field of medicine, whether it's in the field of administration of medicine and the sort of terrifying WHO treaty that we just mentioned, geopolitics, there's always a kind of a systemic unconsciousness.

01:04:56.000 And I suppose systems have to be unconscious by their nature, because they require sets of decisions that are Not going to be able to respond to plasticity and mutability.

01:05:07.000 What it makes me continue to think, John, is that decentralization is an absolute necessity and I know that some areas of concerns that you and I share are around ecology and agriculture and the potential that these areas are being mishandled and that even something like climate change, which one might imagine is a significant conversation for all of us, is being utilised to generate systems of control.

01:05:35.000 What do you feel about that?

01:05:36.000 Yeah, I've been thinking about this quite a lot recently.

01:05:38.000 It was actually as a result of something that RFK, Bobby Kennedy Jr.

01:05:43.000 said a few weeks ago.

01:05:44.000 I started looking at it and I'm actually concerned.

01:05:48.000 I mean, we've talked about the problems with control and vested interest in pharmacy and drugs, which is tragic, but I'm actually quite concerned about agriculture and food supply.

01:06:00.000 And quite a few things come into this.

01:06:02.000 So we hear a lot of emphasis at the moment about fossil fuel burning, global warming, and you know that there is good science behind that.

01:06:14.000 But what people just seem to ignore, that I've just checked out recently, is the amount of carbon in the soil now, on the surface of the Earth, is greater than all of the carbon in the atmosphere.

01:06:28.000 and greater than all the carbon in all the organisms.

01:06:31.000 That's all the trees and the bushes and the cabbages and the human beings on the surface of the planet.

01:06:36.000 And yet we hear nothing about this.

01:06:39.000 We hear nothing about this.

01:06:41.000 And as well as that, when you add nitrogen-based fertilizers to the soil, if there's too much nitrogen-based fertilizer in the soil, that produces a substance called nitrous oxide.

01:06:55.000 Now, if you've ever been to Glastonbury in the past ten years, you may have heard of nitrous oxide.

01:07:01.000 It's laughing gas.

01:07:03.000 It's produced if there's too much nitrogen.

01:07:05.000 And by the way, we think that's a really bad idea to take recreational substances of any form, that goes without saying.

01:07:13.000 Nitrous oxide, of course, is a wonder drug.

01:07:15.000 In A&E, you can give someone a few whiffs of nitrous oxide and the pain goes away.

01:07:19.000 It's a wonderful, wonderful drug.

01:07:21.000 But if you put in huge amounts of expensive nitrogen-based fertilizers on the soil, Then you're not putting enough organic matter in.

01:07:30.000 Now, if you put in plenty of organic matter, the bugs, the bacteria, will feed on the organic matter and you'll greatly improve the quality of the microbiome of the soil.

01:07:39.000 This is the way it's supposed to be.

01:07:41.000 You'll get good quality soil storing huge amounts of organic matter and we can change agricultural techniques really quite quickly.

01:07:48.000 It's called conservation tilling.

01:07:50.000 to keep more of that in the soil.

01:07:52.000 But we hear nothing about this.

01:07:53.000 So instead of using the organic matter, we put on nitrogen-based fertilizers.

01:07:59.000 When you put on too much of those, we get the production of nitrous oxide.

01:08:02.000 Now, nitrous oxide can go into the atmosphere.

01:08:06.000 And the amounts of this have been increasing year on year for some time now.

01:08:10.000 And it hangs around in the atmosphere for over a hundred years.

01:08:14.000 And it is three times stronger, a greenhouse gas, than carbon dioxide.

01:08:21.000 Three times stronger.

01:08:23.000 But you don't hear anything about this and it just makes you wonder if, you know, because fertilizers are purchased, they have to be bought, they're paid for, you know, often made by pretty big scale companies that people just don't want to talk about this, this greenhouse gas.

01:08:38.000 And the nitric oxide also reduces high up stratospheric ozone as well.

01:08:43.000 It's really not a good idea.

01:08:45.000 So why don't we put in more carbon into the soil, reducing the amount of carbon in the atmosphere, reducing the greenhouse gases, preventing... we've got more carbon in the soil so it needs less nitrogen-based fertilizers, that means less nitric oxide.

01:09:02.000 And again, herbicides and pesticides, huge amounts of these are used.

01:09:08.000 And again, these are all marketed products.

01:09:15.000 You know, let's control things that are for the good of the ecology and the future of the human race rather than people making money in a relatively short-term period of time.

01:09:25.000 Again, it just seems so sad that these common-sense ecological things that are well-known aren't adequately practiced or talked about.

01:09:32.000 It seems like a curious anomaly of our time that during war, military industrial complex benefit from that type of crisis.

01:09:42.000 During an energy crisis, energy companies benefit from that type of crisis.

01:09:47.000 During a health pandemic, Pharmacological company benefit from that crisis.

01:09:54.000 That if you have a strata of society that benefit from crisis,

01:09:59.000 it's likely that you find yourself in a state of perpetual crisis because

01:10:03.000 for what is crisis for people that are not powerful is opportunity for the most powerful interests in the world.

01:10:12.000 And when you mention and describe the problem with carbon and nitrous oxide in the soil, what comes to mind is that even something as immersive, prominent and well-publicized as climate change and anthropomorphic climate change, etc.

01:10:33.000 It seems that the information that we're given is selective.

01:10:37.000 And this total lack of institutions is something that I think exploded during the pandemic because there was this new capacity for control.

01:10:47.000 There was this new imposition of control and it seems that many of the claims that were made were not legitimate and this was exposed due to independent media in particular.

01:10:57.000 This is where that conversation moved forward.

01:11:00.000 There were people, as you are well aware because you were one of them, The very advent of the pandemic had one perspective and we're watching the information as it changed and we're able with a degree of objectivity and certainly in good faith to chart what was happening.

01:11:14.000 There were people like Robert Malone right at the beginning saying well I don't think you should be vaccinating at the height of a pandemic.

01:11:20.000 All sorts of information that was available was shut down and I feel that we have now A total crisis of trust.

01:11:28.000 I don't think that many people actually, and thank God they don't, trust the legacy media.

01:11:33.000 A significant number of people do not trust the media.

01:11:36.000 A significant number of people think that whoever they vote for they're going to end up with a political party that ultimately works for a set of financial interests that Preclude meaningful democratic change.

01:11:48.000 I think that extends to the judiciary in some course, medicine, doctors, I mean the name what you know any sort of instance the institutions of our planet are rightly regarded with considerable mistrust and when you were earlier on talking about oh the you know the possibility that they could somehow be mobilized again Into utility, into service, into principles that are actually sort of rather old-fashioned than quite so simple I blush to mention them.

01:12:15.000 It appears to me, John, and I think about it a lot, that independent media has to become politicized.

01:12:22.000 It can no longer just be, oh here we go, have you noticed this?

01:12:25.000 In the end, even if you didn't have an intention to be political, you are politicized.

01:12:29.000 You'll get strikes, you'll get bans, you'll get attacks, The more traction you get, the more likely those attacks are to come.

01:12:36.000 And the extent of those attacks, as far as I can see, has the capacity to be almost limitless.

01:12:42.000 There's plainly an appetite.

01:12:43.000 Governments getting involved in demonetizing channels that they are opposed to.

01:12:50.000 It makes me wonder, John, how you feel this may unfold for you personally and what you see your role as a communicator like, how you see that evolving and whether you feel like it will become politicised or if indeed it already has been.

01:13:08.000 Yeah, I think we have to distinguish between party politics and politics.

01:13:15.000 I would like to steer clear from from party politics, but inevitably, if you're talking about things like land use, if you're talking about things like reducing food miles, if you're talking about things like reducing pollution, reducing nitrates, reducing greenhouse gases, then I think inevitably it does become political.

01:13:38.000 I mean, I've got a friend who's been campaigning against incineration.

01:13:44.000 And one of the things he's pointed out is that, incinerating plastics particularly, you get release of a certain amount of dioxins.

01:13:55.000 Now, you're far too young to remember, Russell, and I can just about remember the substance in Vietnam called Agent Orange that a certain world government sprayed on another country.

01:14:09.000 And I've actually worked in Cambodia and seen birth defects related to that after all those decades.

01:14:18.000 It had dioxins in it.

01:14:20.000 And the dioxins hang around.

01:14:22.000 They stay in the soil for long periods of time.

01:14:25.000 So if we have legitimate concerns that we want to stop incineration to reduce dioxins, we can put forward the science of that.

01:14:34.000 But to actually get these decisions changed and to actually influence these decisions, I guess that does become political.

01:14:42.000 So, you know, I would like to provide evidence as much as I can.

01:14:48.000 And what I do more and more these days, because I'm increasingly out of my depth in a lot of these fields, for some strange reason, leading experts, absolutely leading experts from around the world have come on my channel And they've shared their expertise in ways that people can understand, which we're very grateful for.

01:15:08.000 So the expertise is there, we can put it together, we can put this into forms that people can understand.

01:15:15.000 But it is difficult, and I've only mentioned this once or twice, but I've had personal threats that are really quite significant.

01:15:26.000 I've had the police round twice with threats to my life, basically, that are incredible.

01:15:36.000 These were kicked up to an intelligence unit who couldn't work out where they came from.

01:15:42.000 They probably didn't have to look very far.

01:15:47.000 Was that your desk?

01:15:49.000 Apparently it went up to, I won't mention which intelligence agency it was, but it went quite high up and they couldn't work out where the threat came from.

01:15:56.000 In other words, it was done quite a sophisticated way.

01:15:59.000 So it's quite difficult, but there are genuine threats.

01:16:07.000 I'm not saying I'm in the same category as someone like RFK, but he says he gets up in the morning and thinks, well, how can I behave ethically today?

01:16:21.000 If we do see the threat, there's an Old Testament account of the watchman.

01:16:26.000 It's in the 33rd chapter of Ezekiel.

01:16:29.000 And it says if the watchman sees the sword coming against the city, and cries the alarm, and the people get out the way, then that's fine.

01:16:38.000 But if the watchman says the sword is coming against the city, and the people do nothing, if they ignore the watchman, then their blood is on their own heads.

01:16:49.000 So it's the role of the watchman to say, look, this danger is coming.

01:16:54.000 This danger is coming.

01:16:56.000 And we could talk about heroes, great heroes from the 1920s and 1930s.

01:17:02.000 Dietrich Bonhoeffer, for example.

01:17:05.000 And, you know, he warned about the danger that was coming.

01:17:07.000 Many did.

01:17:10.000 But many didn't listen.

01:17:13.000 And likewise now, Not saying it's the same situation, but I'm not comparing it in any way, but we have leading scientists from around the world who are telling me things that concern them.

01:17:27.000 Leading analysts, people that do really significant analysis around the world, telling me they have concerns.

01:17:35.000 And if we've got these world-leading analysts, often professors, often doctors, People that do this really quite seriously.

01:17:44.000 If we don't at least say, well, just a minute, you've raised the question there.

01:17:46.000 Let's think about that.

01:17:49.000 Then I think that that's tantamount to ignoring the watchman.

01:17:53.000 We have to think about it.

01:17:55.000 Because there are threats coming and I really think we have to take these threats seriously or they could overwhelm us.

01:18:04.000 Yeah, it's pretty heavy.

01:18:06.000 I mean, I also think you're right, and even with my personal situation, which I can't go into too much depth about for reasons that will be obvious to anyone who understands such matters, it's apparent to me that I've just found myself in a position, not entirely inadvertently, because I've been very deliberate about sort of attacking what I believe to be establishment interests, and I've been deliberately provocative. But what I have seen in

01:18:38.000 terms of the coordination and ability of power, you know, we had a conversation with a

01:18:44.000 guy called Dr. Robert Epstein, who you'd enjoy actually, John, he's, he does, he uses

01:18:50.000 monitoring systems to observe the way that Google behaves and relays information,

01:18:55.000 particularly news media, and by his reckoning are able to create almost impenetrable spheres of data.

01:19:03.000 And when it's pointed out to them, they alter it.

01:19:05.000 That's the nature of their work.

01:19:08.000 They go, hey, hang on a minute.

01:19:09.000 In Georgia, all of your news stories are going this direction.

01:19:11.000 All of your news stories, look at the biases.

01:19:13.000 They're able to measure bias in reporting, for example.

01:19:16.000 Political bias is one obvious way.

01:19:20.000 Yeah.

01:19:21.000 And when you talk about, you know, the impending crises, whether they're of an ecological, ideological, military, pharmacological, I mean, like, there's so many ways now that it seems that what AI, my God, you know, technologization, it's very difficult to envisage a world where I'm at what this is what I sort of feel broadly this

01:19:45.000 conversation I wouldn't say this to everybody I feel like that is a type of, because of what you were alluding

01:19:50.000 to, I suppose is fascism and I feel like our template of fascism, our manner of 0.76

01:19:57.000 recognizing it, our swatch of the livery pageantry and paraphernalia of fascism is based on

01:20:04.000 the militarism of a century ago.

01:20:07.000 That's a sort of a late industrial early modern version of fascism.

01:20:13.000 Now what we have is a much more Huxleyan, sanitized, rational, logical, oriented towards

01:20:22.000 safety and convenience, managerial version of foreclosure of all other possibilities.

01:20:30.000 And when you look at every time I read about these new protest laws mean you won't be able

01:20:35.000 to do this and this new suggestion means that everyone will have to register in this way

01:20:39.000 and we will all carry this ID.

01:20:41.000 This new currency means that everyone will have a centralized currency.

01:20:45.000 I can sort of just...

01:20:47.000 I feel the formulation of it.

01:20:49.000 I feel it like a kind of binary fog enclosing.

01:20:54.000 And as you say, I mean, yeah, are we watchmen or do we have to become avenging angels, John, with swords of fire?

01:21:04.000 No, I think I'll stick with the watchmen for now.

01:21:06.000 We'll leave the...

01:21:09.000 We'll leave that to someone else.

01:21:11.000 But you're right, fascism to me is about controlling other people.

01:21:15.000 It is me imposing my will on you.

01:21:19.000 To me a fascist says, you will think as I think, you will do as I do, or I will punish you.

01:21:28.000 That to me is what fascism is, it's control.

01:21:32.000 Now, does it make too much difference whether that's on the point of a bayonet Or at the risk of losing your livelihood, losing your occupation.

01:21:46.000 The end result is that the person doing the controlling has people controlled as he wants them controlled.

01:21:55.000 And the modality of that probably doesn't matter too much.

01:21:59.000 If you'd said to previous fascists, maybe Genghis Khan for example, are you happy to rule the world and have absolute authority and absolute power everywhere just by using persuasion.

01:22:16.000 I'm sure if that was quick enough, he'd say, well, yeah, that's okay.

01:22:20.000 You know, it's just the warfare was quicker.

01:22:25.000 The modality through which the control is achieved is perhaps less important.

01:22:30.000 It's the control itself that matters.

01:22:33.000 And you mentioned AI there, Russell.

01:22:33.000 Yes.

01:22:36.000 I didn't take this seriously until about a year ago.

01:22:38.000 I had people warning me about it 10 years ago and I thought, oh no, I don't really get that.

01:22:45.000 But now, I think we can rest assured that the bad guys, whoever they are, are working on AI.

01:22:56.000 Because it is a way to control and understand and that's another modality that will be used to facilitate people's power.

01:23:08.000 Because unfortunately you get a small subset of the population of the earth that are interested in money and control and power.

01:23:17.000 Most people aren't.

01:23:19.000 Most people just maybe want to go to work and come home and have the tea and have a nice family life, or go to the football on a Saturday, or go walking on the hills on a Sunday afternoon.

01:23:30.000 But you do get some people, for some strange reason that I don't understand, and yet I do witness that this is true, are interested in controlling other people.

01:23:40.000 I used to be a psychiatric nurse.

01:23:41.000 You see it in psychiatric hospitals where you get People with particular conditions, particular personality disorders, and they just want to control other people because that's the way that they are wired up.

01:23:56.000 I don't understand it because it doesn't affect me, but it is a problem.

01:24:00.000 And when these people get into power, they have to be seen for what they are and hopefully identified at an earlier stage, as early a stage as is possible.

01:24:13.000 Because once power becomes entrenched, it often becomes self-perpetuating.

01:24:18.000 I mean, I just can't believe that the North Korean situation is still going on since I was a child. 0.98

01:24:25.000 You know, that self-perpetuating, evil, idolatrous country. 0.69

01:24:33.000 The power is somehow perpetuated down through the generations.

01:24:39.000 Let's just take that as a warning for how badly wrong things can go, that a people can be so oppressed in that way for so long is possible.

01:24:50.000 We've been raised in a pretty good time.

01:24:52.000 Let's not take that for granted.

01:24:55.000 You're right.

01:24:55.000 The aesthetics can't distract us, or the modality, to use your words.

01:25:00.000 If the endgame is controlled... The way it's done.

01:25:03.000 Yeah.

01:25:03.000 The way it's done.

01:25:04.000 Yeah.

01:25:07.000 It's always fantastic to talk to you.

01:25:07.000 Thanks, John.

01:25:09.000 It always makes me feel...

01:25:11.000 More optimistic, then terrified, then a bit more optimistic, then charmed.

01:25:16.000 So it's a giddy roller coaster ride, much like the famous image of the country wall roaming off across a pastoral and bucolic wonder.

01:25:27.000 The conversations with you provide a boundary across a still yet lush space that might provide freedoms for us all, John.

01:25:36.000 It could go either way, Russell.

01:25:37.000 I know that!

01:25:38.000 I know that, John.

01:25:39.000 I know that, man.

01:25:41.000 But we're in it now.

01:25:43.000 We're in it now, Dr. John.

01:25:44.000 Thank you so much for joining me today.

01:25:46.000 It's a pleasure always to just be in the radiance of your sweet kindness.

01:25:51.000 Thanks for having me, Russell.

01:25:52.000 Let's get the message out.

01:25:54.000 Let's get it out there!

01:25:55.000 Is that a cat or a dog that's by you there that you just stroked?

01:25:58.000 Oh, that's my son's dog.

01:26:00.000 What's that doing there?

01:26:01.000 Oh, he's, uh...

01:26:04.000 Cos my son's at work.

01:26:06.000 You seem to have gone all carmaginally about the dog.

01:26:09.000 Well, he's my grand dog.

01:26:11.000 So I have two grandchildren and one grand dog that I'll get to look after.

01:26:19.000 Pretty lovely.

01:26:20.000 Thank you, you wonderful man.

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01:26:37.000 We've got a fantastic week next week.

01:26:39.000 We've got Dave DeCamp coming on the show talking about potential ubiquitous Armageddon.

01:26:44.000 Each party has its own superpower war lined up.

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01:26:55.000 Kim Iverson, fellow Rumble host, truth teller and charming human being, will be on the show as well.

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