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00:05:50.000This is somewhat a tease because we're still on YouTube so people are going to know that you wouldn't be able to answer these questions while we're on YouTube.
00:06:03.000Did vaccines kill more people than they saved and can we prove that?
00:06:07.000You can't be answering that kind of thing on YouTube unless the answer is don't know, don't be ridiculous, they saved countless lives and we should, as Bill Gates is suggesting, have a vaccine for everything.
00:06:18.000We've got a brilliant clip of that as well.
00:06:22.000I also wanted to ask you about the debate, Dave, whether or not it's plausible that it's part of a concerted effort to replace Biden because I can't imagine that they put him in that position without knowing the likely ramifications.
00:06:39.000There are no surprises, there are no surprises.
00:06:41.000Well thank you so much for joining us.
00:06:42.000I saw your interview with Alex Jones recently and I also saw a clip from our last conversation where we talked about the WHO and in particular their immunity from prosecution was getting a lot of heat, a lot of love On the platform of X. So I'm very excited for us to have the conversations today about bird flu vaccines, about where we are with the pandemic, about the reason that the information is being delayed, and whether or not the UK and French elections are simply a kind of a globalist beauty parade.
00:07:13.000So there's quite a lot to talk to you about, Dave.
00:07:16.000So much to talk about and so little time, but we're going to make a lot more of these times, so that's great.
00:07:21.000We are going to collaborate more, you and I, and indeed Kim, your beautiful wife.
00:07:25.000There's quite a lot for us to discuss.
00:07:28.000There's a hell of a lot of future for us to discuss.
00:07:56.000That means there's all sorts of stuff that I don't talk to you about.
00:07:58.000I'm not bothering you with my feelings about England's advance through the Euros tournament.
00:08:03.000I'm not troubling you with what my personal opinions are on the formation or my admiration for Ivan Tony and his particular style of penalty taking.
00:08:12.000I'm not bothering any of you with that because we've got important Revolutionary, radical matters to discuss.
00:08:18.000But when it comes to British politics, particularly as it seems that we've elected another figure with strong connections to the WF, like Macron, who's just assured himself a significant number of years, even if it's just two or three more years, in the office of President.
00:08:34.000I think it's worth us looking at these leaders and what they represent.
00:08:39.000We've talked to you before about Keir Starmer's relationship or lack of relationship with Julian Assange, his potential opinions on the Assange case, his authoritarian position on previous matters of unrest in political and social matters in the United Kingdom when he was head of the CPS.
00:08:57.000But a new Litmus test that's blessedly emerged in the post-pandemic era is we can see how authoritarian leaders are by looking at their response during the pandemic period.
00:09:09.000We can look at whether or not they believe in independence, freedom, liberty, freedom of communication, censorship, surveillance, All issues that you know are bound up in the incumbent and ancillary issues that connect to the pandemic and the way that it was legislated.
00:09:24.000And here is a beautiful montage of Keir Starmer, new UK globalist supremo, talking about the pandemic
00:09:32.000and in particular, offering us what solutions he agrees with.
00:09:37.000And I think the thing I really want you to pay attention to here is the way he talks about
00:09:41.000how the degree to which he'd be willing to collaborate with the government.
00:09:45.000Now, you know, in your country, they always say this is a bill that's so popular,
00:09:48.000it has support on both sides of the aisle.
00:10:57.000And I would encourage absolutely everyone who is eligible to come forward and have their booster.
00:11:04.000Don't be taken in by the misinformation.
00:11:07.000Blue Nose Bob in the rumble chat calling him Keir Farmer.
00:11:10.000That might overtake Starmageddon as the best available new nickname.
00:11:14.000Look at the degree that he's going to to personally advocate for those medications.
00:11:19.000Now remember, at the time, perhaps in good faith, you could believe, and I'm fascinated to hear what our guest Dave Martin says about this, that those political leaders, those media pundits, those Endless advocates for pharmaceutical intervention that were willing to call it vaccines, not gene therapy, that were willing to pressurise and shame people that were vaccine hesitant or vaccine reluctant or downright cynical about globalist intervention and evident authoritarianism on the rise.
00:11:47.000Remember the position that these leaders took and note how aligned they are with the current government.
00:11:54.000This is Keir Starmer, of course, when he was in opposition.
00:11:57.000But where is His opposition obstructive or opposing or inquiring or interrogating role as the official leader of the opposition.
00:12:07.000Do you not feel that if it's the government's role not to represent you but to oppress you, surely it's the role of the opposition to resist and inquire of the government As to what they're doing and how they're achieving their stated goals, their manifesto.
00:12:22.000How often do you remember seeing Keir Starmer going, what's going on with Julian Assange?
00:12:38.000Anti-vaxxers getting platforms and so on.
00:12:41.000Well we have to deal with the anti-vax campaigns because they will cost lives and if we need to pass emergency legislation to deal with them I'd be quite prepared to work with the government on that.
00:12:50.000We could pass it in a couple of days in Parliament.
00:12:54.000Misinformation costs lives and if we have to create emergency legislation to deal with them, I'm happy to work with the government on that.
00:13:01.000We can draw it up in a couple of days.
00:13:06.000Do you have any idea what's being discussed there?
00:13:09.000The ability to newly censor, novel new ways to censor and control information just being blithely discussed on morning television in the UK.
00:13:19.000As if freedom of speech ain't a thing.
00:13:21.000As if individual freedom isn't a thing.
00:13:23.000As if the right to be cynical about a product that has shown us more and more that we were correct to be cynical isn't a legitimate right of all of us individually and almost a duty of us now collectively.
00:13:34.000The sooner we do that, frankly, the better because for many NHS staff it is really distressing.
00:14:06.000We need as many people vaccinated as possible.
00:14:09.000Even if your argument is this is Kyistarma in response to a crisis, we live in a time of omni-incessant unending crisis now.
00:14:16.000So how do you imagine Kyistarma will respond if NATO say we need troops from every NATO member country?
00:14:23.000Or how do you imagine that Kyistarma will respond if the WHO say we need you to participate in this treaty and we'll be taking taxes from your country?
00:14:30.000How do you imagine, with the escalation of war, with the escalation of digital IDs, digital currencies, new measures and means for individual control, new measures and ideas predicated on saving the environment, or protecting the climate, or whatever, a seemingly worthy cause, how do you imagine this man as leader will take it, and how significant, let me know in the chat, how significant do you think it is that he is a fully paid up and maybe fully purchased member of the World Economic Forum?
00:15:00.000All need to give people confidence to be vaccinated and that is pulling together as part of the programme and it's also dealing with this misinformation that is out there.
00:15:13.000As the Prime Minister knows we've got the highest regulatory and medical safety standards in the world but it's really important we do everything possible to counter dangerous.
00:15:24.000Met Police calls for common sense over Christmas.
00:15:27.000Let's just settle down into some common sense and celebrate the birth of Lord Jesus!
00:15:32.000In a sensible way though, not like God is incarnate among us and that the whole festival has been commodified and the people are having massive Christmas parties in ...including, actually, Keir Starmer, although his party was a little more muted.
00:15:44.000I seem to recall long-lens shots of him clutching a beer while working.
00:16:00.000Vive the march towards globalisation and authoritarianism.
00:16:03.000Frankly, life-threatening disinformation about vaccines.
00:16:07.000We on this side have called for legislation to be introduced to clamp down on this with financial penalties for companies that fail to act.
00:16:15.000So will the Prime Minister work with us on this and bring forward emergency legislation in the coming days, which I think the whole House would support?
00:16:22.000Well, Mr Speaker, we are, of course, working to tackle all kinds of disinformation across the internet and he's right to single out the anti-vaxxers.
00:17:08.000Rishi Sunak with his connections to Moderna even prior to entering government extraordinarily.
00:17:14.000Although this might be a variation, it's not a significant change, is it?
00:17:19.000And this taken in step with France's recent political machinations where it seems the system can be manoeuvred to create the desired results while maintaining for us the spectacle of democracy or representative electoral systems.
00:17:46.000It begins by listening to your own heart.
00:17:48.000It begins by connecting to nature and one another and rejecting the information that we get from Keir Starmer and his globalist media But that's just what I think.
00:17:58.000Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
00:18:00.000If you're watching us on YouTube right now, we're going to be available for a matter of seconds more because I'm joined by our fantastic guest Dave Martin.
00:18:08.000Dave Martin has torn up the rule book when it comes to reporting on matters of globalism and global health, the power of Big Pharma, the corruption of regulatory bodies, and I'm today going to ask him the questions that matter.
00:18:23.000Dave Martin, once and for all, can you tell us For an actual fact, do you believe that those medications killed more people than they saved?
00:18:35.000Let's do a very simple math exercise, shall we?
00:18:39.000The math exercise that we're told in the world of public health is really simple.
00:18:44.000We do what's called a cost and benefit analysis.
00:18:48.000And in the world of public health, the cost is, if you don't take measures, if you don't do things, what will the outcome be?
00:18:57.000And the benefit is supposed to be is there a social gain in the world of public health where if we take a measure is there a public gain that we're going to get from that measure?
00:19:09.000And unfortunately in this particular case the whole system from the outset was set up to actually unfortunately for the whole world never answer the social question is as we just heard from Keir Starmer is there A social benefit.
00:19:36.000This injection was designed to genetically modify your body so that your body manufactured a toxin to which your body may, may, and the may we didn't have any evidence to support, May develop some sort of a immune like response.
00:20:21.000As the Ninth Circuit Court recently found, it was actually a medical procedure, not a vaccination.
00:20:29.000As the companies themselves reported, this was gene therapy, not immunotherapy.
00:20:35.000As it is gene therapy, as it is an experimental gene therapy, what we can say is every single adverse effect was in fact An effect that happened without a social benefit.
00:20:47.000In other words, the cost to society and the cost to the individual taking the injection outweighed any proposed benefit whatsoever.
00:22:32.000And so to fill in the missing vaccines, we'll make a lot of our bets of the Gates Foundation and others who care about global health will be mRNA focused.
00:22:50.000Does this seem like the part of a broader plan being introduced to us more widely?
00:22:56.000Well, as you know, Russell, we have no question that the Gates Foundation has for its entire existence been promoting experimental therapies of every variety.
00:23:10.000And the mRNA platform, which he just got done advocating, saying that we can just mess around Just mess around with human genome.
00:23:19.000Let's just mess around with it, play around and over the next five years we're going to come up with the way we can take this mess of the mRNA platform and we can fix it so that we can get everybody treated is a sociopath telling you that he is going to experiment with the death and destruction of humanity and he is going to do it with impunity.
00:23:46.000I can't still understand how this amount of power has coagulated around these individuals, how it's happened so... Well, I guess when I listen to you, Dave, I recognise that it's not happened rapidly when you explain to me the history of the WHO, when you give me some insights to how these bureaucracies have been formed What's remarkable about the way that media works nowadays is it's possible for us, over the course of one conversation, to see Biden advocating enthusiastically for the shots, to see the legacy media carrying that message, and then to see, as we have done, as we can see now, that the Biden administration are seeking to delay
00:24:28.000The release of data relating to COVID vaccines and their side effects.
00:24:32.000How do you imagine that they will be able to maintain control of the narrative when it seems pretty clear that the measures that they're taking now are an attempt to obscure the truth that they have, you know, up till now denied?
00:24:48.000Well, Russell, remember, and I try to remind people that the clinical trials for the mRNA shots are a matter of public record.
00:24:56.000This is not This is not something that is hidden.
00:25:00.000It's not something that requires a FOIA request.
00:25:02.000The clinical trials for this particular intervention are still open in their second phase.
00:25:08.000We are not into post-approval programs.
00:25:16.000We're still in the clinical trials phase and we will be in that phase until 2027.
00:25:22.000So when we talk about we're not disclosing and we're not letting all this information get released, We need to understand we're still in the middle of the clinical trial.
00:25:32.000As recently as two months ago the Moderna clinical trials were updated because there were all kinds of changes to the protocol.
00:25:41.000So not only are we not going to see the data but we remember that in 2016 to 2018 the pharmaceutical industry collaborated with the World Health Organization to change the definition of adverse events.
00:25:58.000They literally ripped the definition out of the dictionary and said that adverse events can only be counted if there is published scientific literature that shows that the adverse event is shown to have been in scientific studies validly associated with the alleged intervention.
00:26:23.000When you have Gates on the one hand, and you had in the COVID case, this manufacture of an experimental gene therapy, the injection of it into billions of people's arms, and then you change the definition of adverse event to say that adverse events aren't adverse if they have not been published before.
00:26:54.000It's an amazing racket and this is why we have to see that when they changed the legal definition of adverse event in 2018, they actually wrote the law so that there can be no adverse event to any of Bill Gates's mRNA platforms.
00:27:12.000There will be no adverse events because we don't have published scientific literature showing causality and as such they don't exist.
00:27:20.000It's extraordinary to see those kind of legislative changes taking place prior to 2019.
00:27:31.000I recently saw you describing the significance of event 201.
00:27:41.000I find it so hard, even after all these years, even after having the privilege of having conversation with people like you, to accept that these staged events precipitated and preceded the pandemic, meaning that this is in fact that the worst possible appraisal of what took place in those couple of years is the truth.
00:28:07.000That it was pre-planned, that it was designed to create opportunity for authority, to create profit, and probably even more malfeasant goals than that.
00:28:18.000How do you interpret the fact that that legislation was made, that legislative change was made in 2018, event 201 happens in 2019?
00:28:33.000Remember, I don't have to interpret it.
00:28:35.000Remember, I don't have to because September 18th, 2019 is the day that lives in infamy and will live in infamy For all of human history it is the date when the World Health Organization said there would be a accidental or intentional release of a lethal respiratory pathogen so that by September 2020 the world would accept the universal vaccine.
00:29:03.000The World Health Organization stated on September 18th in publication in the document a world at risk.
00:29:12.000They stated that there would be a release of a lethal respiratory pathogen for the purpose of a universal vaccine by September 2020.
00:29:31.000It's, I suppose, comparable to the Project for the New American Century, where it was written down, we need a Pearl Harbor-like event to legitimize a spate of Middle Eastern wars.
00:29:45.000There's a kind of theme developing, there is now a kind of bureaucratic paper trail available to us.
00:29:53.000Why is it so hard, when this kind of information is available, to make a reasoned argument about the ongoing assent and death grip of globalist governments on civilised and significant nations around the world?
00:30:08.000Why have the UK just voted in with a pretty significant mandate, a centrist, WEF-oriented Labour Party?
00:30:17.000How have France been able to manoeuvre to ensure Macron remains president and what is happening, I mean this is a lot of questions, but what is happening in the United States right now to either ensure that Biden is able to continue to run as president or that minimal change and impact takes place during and around the next election?
00:30:41.000Well, Russell, you and I have had this conversation and I celebrate the fact that we continue to have it and I will celebrate that we continue to have it as long as we can, which is that we, the people, have allowed these systems to go into near autopilot.
00:31:00.000The complacency and the acquiescence of the masses to get steamrolled into this belief that says, well, I don't know how it happened, but it just happened.
00:31:14.000We allegedly changed the UK government, but apparently what we got was an apologist for Boris Johnson.
00:31:26.000That doesn't feel like any alteration in the status quo.
00:31:29.000And then you realize, oh, hold on a minute.
00:31:32.000That's because Boris Johnson didn't represent himself or his ideology anymore than the current government represents itself or its ideology.
00:31:41.000The fact of the matter is, and I've said this, you know that I talked about this back in 2010 and 11 and 12, but this goes all the way back to the first Bush presidency when I said when investors, largely pharmaceutical and defense, bought both sides of the ticket.
00:32:00.000Meaning the Democrats and the Republicans were in fact owned by the same people.
00:32:07.000Then it doesn't actually matter what puppet you put into whatever position you ascribe having power because it is merely puppetry.
00:32:17.000At that point in time, the marionette strings are what we should be paying attention to, not the thing that we see dancing on the stage.
00:32:24.000And the thing we see dancing on the stage looks like, oh my goodness, he's wearing different clothes.
00:32:29.000Oh my gosh, he doesn't have any clothes at all.
00:32:31.000And we watch the puppet and we forget that it's a puppet.
00:32:36.000And we forget that the same hand is pulling on both sides of the string.
00:32:41.000So we've got the puppet string on this side, the puppet string on this side, and lo and behold, if we look up, we see it's the exact same hand running the puppet.
00:32:52.000And it doesn't matter which side they're on.
00:32:53.000Macron could not be a better example of what I just said.
00:32:58.000There's no way that he actually has a mandate But he's helpful for the people who mandate what's going to happen.
00:33:08.000The point is, we still are living in the illusion that goes all the way back to what we fantasized about in the 13th century, where we fantasized about maybe we would have rights as people.
00:33:23.000To actually live and have liberty and have livelihood and have all of the things that matter.
00:33:29.000We live in that fantasy only to find out that the reality is that a very small group of people are the people who are actually managing the theater.
00:33:41.000And we are merely observers of the theater until we choose to stop playing along.
00:33:58.000Early indications suggest that populism is on the rise, primarily across Europe, and I believe in your country, in the form of right-wing populism.
00:34:09.000But I have a sense that what we need to come up with is a little more sophisticated A little more inclusive and a little more anti-big finance and big corporations.
00:34:18.000Dave, after a short break, I want to ask you about what the next event will likely be to legitimise further authority through crisis.
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00:37:18.000While officials say the risk to the general public remains low, work on vaccines is already underway.
00:37:25.000Better believe they're working on vaccines because it seems, as Bill Gates said, you name it, and even if you can't name it because it's unpronounceable, we will have a gene therapy for it.
00:37:35.000It's enough to send you dancing into the arms of the Lord.
00:37:39.000That's why over on Locals the other day, I don't know if you saw it yet, it's up already, I had a conversation with Bishop Robert Barron.
00:37:45.000We talked about theology, we talked about personal relationship with Christ, and we talked about Interpreting the Bible.
00:37:50.000We talked about a whole lot of stuff and it's Asset 17.
00:37:52.000While we wait for Dave to come back, have a look at this and consider becoming an Awakened Wonder and joining us.
00:37:57.000I suppose that I've come to faith through addiction, through despair, through suffering, through loss, through isolation, through disappointment, through heartbreak, heartache and personal ruin.
00:38:08.000You came to it through addiction, through a kind of Spiritual, moral, crisis.
00:38:17.000You know, when something falls apart in this world and then a deeper, higher world opens up in that process.
00:38:23.000Or when you hit the bottom of an addiction and you realize, this is taking me nowhere, it can open you up then to what's beyond all addictive desire, which is the desire for God.
00:38:34.000And what's disguised in all addictive desire is ultimately a desire for God.
00:38:38.000So, that's a powerful thing, and you're standing in a great tradition there, going back to the New Testament itself, coming up through all kinds of the lives of the saints.
00:38:46.000So, that's a beautiful path, you know?
00:38:48.000Now, having gone through that, then you are better suited to be an active presence and
00:38:56.000a transformative presence in the world.
00:39:07.000Dave, I'd be very grateful to talk to you about your spiritual journey and your faith, but when we left off we were discussing the next likely outbreak and the next measures to be able to implement Further global control.
00:39:26.000We can assume that at least part of that will be cyber attacks because Dave Martin appears to have been yanked right off of Zoom again.
00:39:33.000This is a... When Dave comes back, I want to talk to him about this.
00:39:38.000I could talk to you about Remdesivir, or I could talk to you about the latest media scramble and the latest attempt to reframe... Dave's back, thankfully, but I've got some good stuff to show you.
00:39:50.000Dave, before you were cyber-attacked right off of Zoom, I was asking you about what you considered would be the next event.
00:39:57.000Now that we can track these patterns, now that you are able to observe the paper trowels, what do you imagine is going to be the next event?
00:40:26.000So, I said on the show I did with Alex Jones the other day, that we're in the middle of World War III.
00:40:34.000And I'm going to just take a quick little framing response, because if we understand that in war, The enemy is always going to be using multiple strategies at any point in time.
00:40:49.000So what we saw just recently with the Ukraine, what we see that's going on in Israel and Gaza, what we see that's going on across the destabilization of parts of right now South America, where we see resurgence of this alleged kind of anti-government force activity that's going on.
00:41:10.000We're going to see kinetic warfare, but we're also going to see the now biological warfare, which is going to be vast and without question, the greatest deployment that we have on this earth, because it becomes so easy to deploy.
00:41:27.000All you do is you create the illusion of fear.
00:41:31.000And ironically, rather than running away from the battlefield, You actually see people running to the clinic to get shot, literally running to get shot.
00:41:43.000This is the weirdest war that we could ever imagine.
00:41:46.000It's the only one that we've seen in human history where the victims of the war have run into the live fire zone.
00:42:09.000Think about how ridiculous the H5N2 bird flu story is when I tell you, Russell, that in patents that we have identified, The H5N2 bird flu was available for commercial sale.
00:42:41.000A company It was started by the Rockefeller Foundation, owned by NIAID, a for-profit business that calls itself non-profit because only for research purposes.
00:42:52.000But they have a catalog, Russell, from which you can buy H5N2.
00:42:57.000You can just, kind of like Amazon, just flip through it and go, yeah, I'll have H5N2, please.
00:43:04.000And then I'll have Ebola over here and I'll have this modification of something else.
00:43:10.000When I actually first said, That H5N2 was actually found in a patent.
00:43:18.000And then in the patent it said, purchased from BEI Resources.
00:43:23.000And then you go back and you look, who's BEI Resources?
00:43:26.000And you read that this is a Rockefeller Foundation started, NIAID owned, commercial venture of selling pathogens I don't know how you feel about the whole pandemic version of this story, but I'm sitting there going, if Walmart got into the business of shipping pathogens, or if Amazon got into the business of shipping monkeypox to your front door, maybe you'd fall for it too.
00:43:53.000But I wouldn't fall for it if I actually saw that you could buy it off of a catalog.
00:44:00.000That's extraordinary and I suppose it's now increasingly obvious why there are such virulent and potent attempts to control communication and information.
00:44:13.000Why the categories of misinformation had to be created because I suppose we're at the point that now everyone watching this live stream, everyone that's watching this on demand, everyone that's watching this cut up and posted on X is now aware That you can go to a kind of pathogen catalogue and order diseases.
00:44:33.000But how is it, I suppose, Dave, that we are able to resist these ongoing attempts to increase censorship, the apparent victories of authoritarian and globalist governments around the world,
00:44:45.000when it seems that what we're confronted with might be an urgent matter.
00:44:51.000I know you're an optimistic man, I can tell it from your demeanour, your manner, the way
00:44:55.000You're not a pessimist, you remain, to me, when I talk to you, I always feel there's
00:45:00.000the possibility of change, there's a possibility for revolution.
00:45:04.000I wonder though, I wonder though how you envisage that unfolding when in every area of life,
00:45:10.000whether it's the judiciary, whether it's the media, big pharma, the military industrial
00:45:14.000complex, we seem to be seeing urgent exacerbation of crisis.
00:45:22.000You know, I used the metaphor before, so I won't bore you with it again, but the rhinoceros in the movie 300.
00:45:30.000The fact of the matter is, as we get towards the end of any period, and it doesn't matter what the period is, it can be a natural cycle, it can be a manufactured cycle, but when we get to the end of a period, what happens is frenetic behavior becomes the norm, meaning that the reflexes that the organism once used are going to just fire off.
00:45:53.000And so what you have is this cacophony of activity, which on the one hand looks like it's very complicated and organized because you have a missile blast at a hospital here, and then you have a bird flu here, and then you have somebody in Mexico falling over, and then you have a shark bite somewhere else, and we just bounce this thing all over the place without pausing for just a moment and saying, oh, that's like an animal that's dying.
00:46:25.000When all of a sudden it starts twitching, you know, and you start having these things that appear to be action, but they're not coordinated action.
00:47:28.000The problem is, as Del Bigtree loves to celebrate, others love to celebrate, those of us who kept our ground, during this last attempt instilled enough uncertainty that now they're uncertain about their own effectiveness.
00:47:45.000And that's why I, when I saw the announcement of the bird flu injection program for Moderna, I celebrated.
00:47:52.000It's an order of magnitude smaller number.
00:47:56.000And these are the, these are the encouraging things.
00:47:58.000You have to look at these things and look at them and go, Oh my gosh, that's good news, not bad news.
00:48:03.000It's great news that it was In the hundreds of millions of dollars range, not in the billions of dollars range.
00:48:26.000I'm weird about the happiness I have that says a few people and Russell, you know, You know your budget, your magnificent budget that, you know, you and your rumble cronies have.
00:48:38.000These billions that you spend to promote yourself.
00:49:51.000It's fun to watch, because it's fun to see them on the one hand, Dial the dollars as soon as the debate was over and say, well, just an off night.
00:51:15.000This is like Orpheus as he's coming out of hell, right?
00:51:19.000It's just, you just get the faint whispers of it.
00:51:23.000But we know how many there are, and it is at least a third of the world's population that will stand in solidarity to a good, moral, correct, ethical, transparent, humble, powerful voice of the people who say, you know what?
00:51:47.000We want a little more tolerance than the extreme right has been willing to offer.
00:51:52.000But we want a little more accountability and discipline than the left has been able to offer.
00:51:56.000We want to actually have a conversation about the emergent representation of the moral compass that is essentially human.
00:52:05.000And that sound is growing, Russell, and I'm so thrilled that all it took was a few voices to keep the tone going during the darkness, and now the chorus is rising.
00:52:19.000That's a very beautiful soliloquy of hope there, and some wonderful references.
00:52:25.000And it's clear now, even in the retrospect afforded by just a couple of years, that it was an attempt to seize complete control.
00:52:34.000And you're right, what would be, had the plan succeeded, an escalation of authoritarianism Exactly as you described with the bird flu measures, precisely as we observed with the failed WHO treaty, would have escalated further, but the voices and perhaps more importantly the connection of voices, the sort of symphonic impact of various nodes finding a kind of harmony, was able to create sufficient opposition.
00:53:05.000I wonder then how much more cultural division we will see around issues that have always been hot-button topics in your country, the subjects that have always been able to rouse people.
00:53:19.000I wonder how the deep state will be able to continue to manage media spaces and how a candidate like Bobby Kennedy will be managed Curtailed, eliminated, silenced, because just in preparation for today's conversation I was watching Bobby Kennedy talking about Remdesivir and Fauci and how long Anthony Fauci has been involved in sort of epic corruption that's kind of staggering to listen to.
00:53:49.000If someone gave us all of that information, which I know you were privy to, At the point that Fauci was being heralded as the voice of the pandemic response.
00:53:59.000He in holy triumvirate with Bill Gates and other figures that were less visible but still lauded.
00:54:07.000That we would have regarded him from the beginning as criminal.
00:54:12.000Sometimes I'm Still astonished to hear your admonishing assessments of organisations like the WHO, WEF.
00:54:22.000Last time we spoke, you talked to me about the indemnity that they were granted, that they granted themselves at the point of their inception, which is somewhat reminiscent, I suppose, of vaccine manufacturers always having been granted Indemnity.
00:54:39.000I wonder what you think will happen because currently our mainstream media spaces are in a cyclone of analysis of Biden's debate performance.
00:54:47.000Bobby Kennedy is being, as all independent candidates are, ridiculed.
00:54:52.000There is a populist uprising that continues around Trump and what he represents.
00:54:56.000He's certainly very popular in some of the spaces we work in.
00:55:01.000I wonder how you feel we might see shifts in those spaces.
00:55:05.000For example, do you think it's significant that you might now see Jake Tapper openly ridiculing Biden on CNN or Van Jones?
00:55:14.000Like the kind of choir choristers of the establishment are now openly
00:55:20.000criticizing establishment figures. Do you see that as part of the string twitches
00:55:26.000of the marionettes before some new stooge is ushered in?
00:55:30.000And where do you see the potential for Bobby Kennedy to make an impact and
00:55:36.000indeed the opposite of that, the potential for him to be controlled?
00:55:41.000Well there's a lot in that but let's let's start with the the post debate
00:55:49.000performance and what's happened and I'm glad you brought up Van Jones.
00:55:53.000Van Jones and I had the opportunity to interact years ago on a whole other level when we were working with the NFL to try to deal with the financial Crimes that were being committed by financial advisors who were stealing vast wealth from NFL players who were financially illiterate.
00:56:15.000And here's the thing I will say is, I was not surprised to see Van Jones come out after the debate going, we've got a problem.
00:56:24.000And that's because, albeit the apologist he is for the mainstream narrative, he also knows that he has to have his own future.
00:56:34.000And it turns out that self-interest does play a role in this and self-interest is something where at a certain point in time, your credibility does in fact matter.
00:56:45.000Now, obviously, I would suggest that MSNBC has selectively The vast majority of people who are commentators in this particular narrative are starting to realize that they have to live outside of this election cycle, and as a result, they're starting to pull back from the just full-on apologist that they've been.
00:57:17.000Bobby's an interesting one, and he's interesting in that An enormous amount of the material that he is now coming out with in the last few months was presented to him when he and others were part of our efforts in early 2020 and mid-2020 to bring public awareness to a number of the things that are now news items that he's bringing out.
00:57:40.000And I sit back and ask the question, well, I know, for example, when he got the proposal from me, because I sent it to him, I know when he got the proposal to actually take a direct hit on Pfizer.
00:57:52.000And I know what his response was then.
00:57:56.000And the fact is that there were a number of steps that he could have taken early on to use his voice and his platform to actually mitigate some of the harm that's done.
00:58:06.000And when people do the, well, Bobby Kennedy would do this or do that, I sit there going, well, I don't have a theoretical on this one because I have personal experience.
00:58:14.000And I know the decisions that were made in expediency.
00:58:41.000And I also know that that's in rare supply in the political arena.
00:58:47.000As I was asked by Alex Jones what I thought about the Trump situation, specifically around Operation Warp Speed, I've said many times, there's no question in my mind, that when he signed the executive order on September 19, 2019, and you heard the date right, that's when the executive order was signed, for DNA-based vaccines, Which, I don't know if you remember, but during the summer of 2019, we were all suffering from a myriad of ailments and maladies, and I think Ricketts and Scurvy were running amok among all the sailing class.
00:59:27.000I don't know why we needed to have DNA-based vaccines in an executive order on September 19, 2019, except for the fact that the coup that was going to happen to overthrow the Trump administration from inside was actually putting its teeth into the system and putting its plan in motion.
00:59:48.000And, as I said before, I think it would be fabulous for Trump to say, guess what?
00:59:54.000Corruption inside of my administration led to a series of events for which I can publicly apologize.
01:00:40.000It would rise by virtue of being humble.
01:00:44.000But what we have right now in all three candidates, Russell, all three of them, not just Trump, not just Biden, and not just Kennedy.
01:00:54.000It's important to point out all three of them suffer from exactly the same problem, which is they double down when the information comes out that suggests that they could have made a better decision.
01:01:10.000And this is a fascinating problem because the public knows, and by the way, everyone in the public knows, That the cleanest, most appropriate way to address a problem is head-on, at the moment it happens, with candor.
01:01:28.000And the public, remarkably, is resilient.
01:01:33.000Remarkably, is understanding because they themselves have these exact same issues.
01:01:38.000And this is the fundamental issue, at a character level, that we currently have with no possible option in any public arena right now.
01:01:51.000Which is, can we find the humility and the power and grace to say, I was mistaken, I am sorry, and I will do better.
01:02:01.000You're talking about humility, candor and grace.
01:02:06.000And in that line of inquiry, which I know from various sectors will generate resistance, based on partisanship and personal affinity and affiliation, you indicated that perhaps the systems and institutions themselves have been co-opted by a type of psychic force That is immune to the type of morality that you're describing.
01:02:31.000This may seem tangential, Dave, but I think you can handle it.
01:02:36.000When I was reading about Christianity yesterday, C.S.
01:02:41.000Lewis was talking about usury and systems of debt.
01:02:45.000And he said from a specifically Christian perspective, these things are outlined again and again as wrong.
01:02:52.000That's not unique to the Christian faith.
01:02:56.000It's extraordinary that this financial system that is again and again condemned in Christianity is the entire basis for our economies of debt.
01:03:10.000I wonder if you see a kind of psychic correlative in the strains and strands of energy that appear to dominate systems of power that could be compared to economic systems themselves that are antithetical to moral systems of financial governance.
01:03:30.000Do you feel that what we create are systems that preclude the potential for true human evolution, growth, or awakening?
01:03:40.000Well, so let's unpack the very last statement you made.
01:03:44.000Number one, yes, the debt-denominated system, which we have lived with for a long time, is a system that unfortunately celebrates decoupling the human condition and the environmental condition and everything else from the monetary system, because money becomes its own god in the debt-denominated system.
01:04:05.000We often mistake These words we confuse the words credit because we have credit cards which are in fact debt.
01:04:14.000We actually mistake the word credit for debt and I spent a lot of time in my blog Inverted Alchemy.
01:04:20.000If you ever want to read it it's it's geeky and wonderful and it's lovely but in Inverted Alchemy I talk about this.
01:04:27.000Credit was a beautiful construct that said that for example I'm going to sow a hundred seeds of grain and I'm going to harvest a crop That's going to each one of those seeds become itself a hundred seeds.
01:04:40.000And so credit was what do I deposit today for a future yield that I know about?
01:04:48.000The last, by the way, the last bank that was established on this basis was the Dutch bank Rabobank.
01:04:54.000It's the last one that was ever established on a credit system.
01:04:57.000But credit was about what do I plant today for a harvest tomorrow?
01:05:02.000And it worked because we knew what natural growth cycles were.
01:05:08.000Debt, unfortunately, a legacy once again of the unholy convergence between life insurance, a essentially Christian phenomenon that was born out of the UK and Scottish and other Presbyterian cultures, but life insurance and debt, ironically, uncoupled productivity.
01:05:34.000Most people don't know that debt and The construct of usury, the acceptance of it, was actually sold on the back of life insurance because life insurance was in fact the church's ability to pay priests little amounts, too little as a matter of fact, so that the widows and orphans of parish priests could actually survive after their parish priest husband died.
01:06:00.000That's where the Scottish Presbyterians came up with the idea of life insurance in the first place.
01:06:04.000But the debt system And the life insurance system came together after the Civil War in the United States, and our current economic system decoupled itself from productivity.
01:06:18.000Now, what happens when that happens is really important, and this gets to the second part of this, which is when you decouple yourself from the natural scale of life, you open yourself up to shame.
01:06:46.000The problem is when you know you have done something wrong and that wrong might be a large scale social wrong.
01:06:55.000Maybe it is the impoverishment of nations like we did with the wealth of nations with Adam Smith.
01:07:01.000Maybe it's knowing that the lithium battery that you put into your electronic appliance came at the unconsidered cost of the lithium miner in south
01:07:09.000america is gonna die at thirty seven years of age so that you can have an extended life battery in your cell phone
01:07:41.000We don't want to be introduced with, God forbid, evidence that an extended life battery means somebody else's life literally has to end at half of its life expectancy so you can have your extended life battery.
01:07:54.000We don't want to have that conversation, Russell, but the fact of the matter is the decoupling of accountability and productivity and natural cycles From our monetary system allows all of us to have the monetary system be the basis for change.
01:08:42.000And what we don't do is we don't put the pieces together and say, oh, this was never about an influenza from the Wuhan region of China.
01:08:54.000This was about a planned demolition on humanity's ability to self-organize and to operate in democratic and socially acceptable principles.
01:09:04.000And that's the reason why, literally, I go into shops and I carry cash.
01:09:09.000I do it not because I don't have a credit card, I do, but I carry cash because I want to make my social statement that says, guess what?
01:09:40.000These are simple things, Russell, but they're profoundly important.
01:09:45.000And by unpacking the association, we can understand that politically, We are allowing the most shame-carrying candidates to be the candidates that rise to the surface.
01:09:59.000And what we could do is we could, once again, as you said this at the beginning of the show, start by the internal examination.
01:10:08.000Be accountable for your own activity, your own life, your own responsibility, your own choices, and lo and behold, you then have the prophetic ability to ask for others to be equally accountable.
01:10:20.000But we cannot, to borrow from the parable, remove the speck in our brother's eye, we have to take the plank out of our own, right?
01:10:28.000Find our own planks and turn them into benches and deck work, and use those planks good You know, for good purposes, before we start looking outside at what everybody else has wrong.
01:10:40.000I'm a huge fan of doing the inner examination so that you have the credibility to have a voice for the outer critique.
01:10:49.000That's beautiful, that's a very beautiful way of stitching together or at least demonstrating the connections between the psychic terrain and what it obliviates and forbids and systems primarily economic and how they induce states.
01:11:09.000I'd not heard that shame connection demonstrated or illustrated so cleverly before and how something that seems so personal as surely shame must to us all being systemically deployed.
01:11:27.000I think it's a very good service you did by explaining that.
01:11:29.000Well, think about what you played in your clip, right?
01:11:34.000If you go back and you listen to the clip, get your booster, get your booster, get your booster, for what purpose?
01:11:58.000Australia is losing its mind right now because there's rampant, rampant cases of COVID in the most injected population, probably in most countries around the world.
01:13:02.000I'm so glad that we have the opportunity to further augment and fortify our connection, our collaboration, and our growing unified mission to, through decentralized power, confront these forces that you have so beautifully researched, understood, and relayed to us as an audience.