Stay Free - Russel Brand - THEY’RE CENSORING VACCINE HARM DATA | Dr Dave Martin EXPOSES Big Pharma Manipulation - SF 403

00:00:00.000 Okay.

00:05:06.000 In this video, you're going to see the kids first.

00:05:15.000 We're getting some breaking news.

00:05:16.000 We've got a live shot there.

00:05:22.000 There you Awakening Wonders.

00:05:23.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:05:25.000 Dave Martin's on the show.

00:05:25.000 It's a brilliant show.

00:05:26.000 Hello there, Dave.

00:05:27.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:05:29.000 It's brilliant to see you there and it's so fantastic that you could make it.

00:05:34.000 I'm excited to talk to you.

00:05:36.000 I've actually done notes.

00:05:37.000 I've done notes of questions I would ask Dave Martin.

00:05:40.000 Do you want to hear them, Dave?

00:05:41.000 Hey, you know, isn't it more fun when we just do it when it happens?

00:05:47.000 Yeah, it's us.

00:05:49.000 Thank you very much for that coffee.

00:05:50.000 This is somewhat a tease because we're still on YouTube so people are going to know that you wouldn't be able to answer these questions while we're on YouTube.

00:05:58.000 For example, look at this one.

00:06:03.000 Did vaccines kill more people than they saved and can we prove that?

00:06:07.000 You can't be answering that kind of thing on YouTube unless the answer is don't know, don't be ridiculous, they saved countless lives and we should, as Bill Gates is suggesting, have a vaccine for everything.

00:06:18.000 We've got a brilliant clip of that as well.

00:06:22.000 I also wanted to ask you about the debate, Dave, whether or not it's plausible that it's part of a concerted effort to replace Biden because I can't imagine that they put him in that position without knowing the likely ramifications.

00:06:36.000 Yeah, that wasn't a surprise.

00:06:37.000 There were no surprises there.

00:06:39.000 There are no surprises, there are no surprises.

00:06:41.000 Well thank you so much for joining us.

00:06:42.000 I saw your interview with Alex Jones recently and I also saw a clip from our last conversation where we talked about the WHO and in particular their immunity from prosecution was getting a lot of heat, a lot of love On the platform of X. So I'm very excited for us to have the conversations today about bird flu vaccines, about where we are with the pandemic, about the reason that the information is being delayed, and whether or not the UK and French elections are simply a kind of a globalist beauty parade.

00:07:13.000 So there's quite a lot to talk to you about, Dave.

00:07:16.000 So much to talk about and so little time, but we're going to make a lot more of these times, so that's great.

00:07:21.000 We are going to collaborate more, you and I, and indeed Kim, your beautiful wife.

00:07:25.000 There's quite a lot for us to discuss.

00:07:28.000 There's a hell of a lot of future for us to discuss.

00:07:32.000 That's exactly right.

00:07:33.000 All right, we're looking.

00:07:35.000 Thank you, Dave.

00:07:36.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:07:36.000 I love you.

00:07:37.000 Okay, so first of all, I wanted to talk to you lot.

00:07:41.000 Thank you, Dave.

00:07:41.000 That's great.

00:07:42.000 So if you don't mind, well done, guys.

00:07:44.000 Thank you.

00:07:45.000 So first of all, this is what I want to talk to you about.

00:07:50.000 I suppose because I'm British, this matters to me personally.

00:07:55.000 I live in this country.

00:07:56.000 That means there's all sorts of stuff that I don't talk to you about.

00:07:58.000 I'm not bothering you with my feelings about England's advance through the Euros tournament.

00:08:03.000 I'm not troubling you with what my personal opinions are on the formation or my admiration for Ivan Tony and his particular style of penalty taking.

00:08:12.000 I'm not bothering any of you with that because we've got important Revolutionary, radical matters to discuss.

00:08:18.000 But when it comes to British politics, particularly as it seems that we've elected another figure with strong connections to the WF, like Macron, who's just assured himself a significant number of years, even if it's just two or three more years, in the office of President.

00:08:34.000 I think it's worth us looking at these leaders and what they represent.

00:08:39.000 We've talked to you before about Keir Starmer's relationship or lack of relationship with Julian Assange, his potential opinions on the Assange case, his authoritarian position on previous matters of unrest in political and social matters in the United Kingdom when he was head of the CPS.

00:08:57.000 But a new Litmus test that's blessedly emerged in the post-pandemic era is we can see how authoritarian leaders are by looking at their response during the pandemic period.

00:09:09.000 We can look at whether or not they believe in independence, freedom, liberty, freedom of communication, censorship, surveillance, All issues that you know are bound up in the incumbent and ancillary issues that connect to the pandemic and the way that it was legislated.

00:09:24.000 And here is a beautiful montage of Keir Starmer, new UK globalist supremo, talking about the pandemic

00:09:32.000 and in particular, offering us what solutions he agrees with.

00:09:37.000 And I think the thing I really want you to pay attention to here is the way he talks about

00:09:41.000 how the degree to which he'd be willing to collaborate with the government.

00:09:45.000 Now, you know, in your country, they always say this is a bill that's so popular,

00:09:48.000 it has support on both sides of the aisle.

00:09:52.000 And he's always support for a war.

00:09:54.000 It's often that.

00:09:55.000 Or support for voting themselves a new pay rise.

00:09:58.000 It's, for me, not an indicator of a healthy democracy, but quite the opposite.

00:10:03.000 How democracy has become a mask for a kind of obfuscated, somehow vague, new form of tyranny.

00:10:11.000 This is an interesting example of how that works.

00:10:14.000 Let's look at Keir Starmer's position on the pandemic at different points throughout it.

00:10:20.000 Pay close attention, y'all.

00:10:22.000 The scientists are clear.

00:10:23.000 Our best defence is the booster jab.

00:10:26.000 The vaccine is safe and effective.

00:10:28.000 It protects us and those around us.

00:10:31.000 That's why Labour supports it.

00:10:33.000 But remember, no clinical trials for transmission.

00:10:36.000 Just bear that in mind.

00:10:37.000 Supports the government's plan to get every adult boosted by the end of the month.

00:10:44.000 And personally, I want to urge every one of you to book an appointment or go to a walk-in centre as soon as you can.

00:10:51.000 I've just had my booster.

00:10:54.000 Quick, painless, no side effects.

00:10:57.000 And I would encourage absolutely everyone who is eligible to come forward and have their booster.

00:11:04.000 Don't be taken in by the misinformation.

00:11:07.000 Blue Nose Bob in the rumble chat calling him Keir Farmer.

00:11:10.000 That might overtake Starmageddon as the best available new nickname.

00:11:14.000 Look at the degree that he's going to to personally advocate for those medications.

00:11:19.000 Now remember, at the time, perhaps in good faith, you could believe, and I'm fascinated to hear what our guest Dave Martin says about this, that those political leaders, those media pundits, those Endless advocates for pharmaceutical intervention that were willing to call it vaccines, not gene therapy, that were willing to pressurise and shame people that were vaccine hesitant or vaccine reluctant or downright cynical about globalist intervention and evident authoritarianism on the rise.

00:11:47.000 Remember the position that these leaders took and note how aligned they are with the current government.

00:11:54.000 This is Keir Starmer, of course, when he was in opposition.

00:11:57.000 But where is His opposition obstructive or opposing or inquiring or interrogating role as the official leader of the opposition.

00:12:07.000 Do you not feel that if it's the government's role not to represent you but to oppress you, surely it's the role of the opposition to resist and inquire of the government As to what they're doing and how they're achieving their stated goals, their manifesto.

00:12:22.000 How often do you remember seeing Keir Starmer going, what's going on with Julian Assange?

00:12:25.000 Is he still in Belmarsh?

00:12:26.000 Are we going to do something about that?

00:12:28.000 You never saw it.

00:12:29.000 What you saw was more of this kind of stuff.

00:12:31.000 Come forward, have your booster.

00:12:32.000 Think of yourself, think of others, think of your communities.

00:12:35.000 Places like this are open, it's quick, it's easy.

00:12:37.000 Please do it.

00:12:38.000 Anti-vaxxers getting platforms and so on.

00:12:41.000 Well we have to deal with the anti-vax campaigns because they will cost lives and if we need to pass emergency legislation to deal with them I'd be quite prepared to work with the government on that.

00:12:50.000 We could pass it in a couple of days in Parliament.

00:12:54.000 Misinformation costs lives and if we have to create emergency legislation to deal with them, I'm happy to work with the government on that.

00:13:01.000 We can draw it up in a couple of days.

00:13:03.000 That's talking about censorship.

00:13:06.000 Do you have any idea what's being discussed there?

00:13:09.000 The ability to newly censor, novel new ways to censor and control information just being blithely discussed on morning television in the UK.

00:13:19.000 As if freedom of speech ain't a thing.

00:13:21.000 As if individual freedom isn't a thing.

00:13:23.000 As if the right to be cynical about a product that has shown us more and more that we were correct to be cynical isn't a legitimate right of all of us individually and almost a duty of us now collectively.

00:13:34.000 The sooner we do that, frankly, the better because for many NHS staff it is really distressing.

00:13:39.000 They're under huge pressure.

00:13:42.000 And it's been building over the last few weeks and months.

00:13:45.000 They're all doing their level best.

00:13:47.000 They're all seeing that it's getting very, very difficult.

00:13:50.000 And to come out and to have to confront that or even hear that is against the national interest.

00:13:56.000 And if we need legislation, I'll sit down with Boris Johnson.

00:14:00.000 We can pass it very, very quickly because that misinformation will cost lives.

00:14:00.000 We can draft it.

00:14:06.000 We need as many people vaccinated as possible.

00:14:09.000 Even if your argument is this is Kyistarma in response to a crisis, we live in a time of omni-incessant unending crisis now.

00:14:16.000 So how do you imagine Kyistarma will respond if NATO say we need troops from every NATO member country?

00:14:23.000 Or how do you imagine that Kyistarma will respond if the WHO say we need you to participate in this treaty and we'll be taking taxes from your country?

00:14:30.000 How do you imagine, with the escalation of war, with the escalation of digital IDs, digital currencies, new measures and means for individual control, new measures and ideas predicated on saving the environment, or protecting the climate, or whatever, a seemingly worthy cause, how do you imagine this man as leader will take it, and how significant, let me know in the chat, how significant do you think it is that he is a fully paid up and maybe fully purchased member of the World Economic Forum?

00:15:00.000 All need to give people confidence to be vaccinated and that is pulling together as part of the programme and it's also dealing with this misinformation that is out there.

00:15:13.000 As the Prime Minister knows we've got the highest regulatory and medical safety standards in the world but it's really important we do everything possible to counter dangerous.

00:15:24.000 Met Police calls for common sense over Christmas.

00:15:27.000 Let's just settle down into some common sense and celebrate the birth of Lord Jesus!

00:15:32.000 In a sensible way though, not like God is incarnate among us and that the whole festival has been commodified and the people are having massive Christmas parties in ...including, actually, Keir Starmer, although his party was a little more muted.

00:15:44.000 I seem to recall long-lens shots of him clutching a beer while working.

00:15:49.000 While working.

00:15:50.000 Because they're so different.

00:15:52.000 This is a wonderful new hue of authoritarianism that's been ushered in, same as in France.

00:15:57.000 Vive la France.

00:15:58.000 Vive la revolution.

00:16:00.000 Vive the march towards globalisation and authoritarianism.

00:16:03.000 Frankly, life-threatening disinformation about vaccines.

00:16:07.000 We on this side have called for legislation to be introduced to clamp down on this with financial penalties for companies that fail to act.

00:16:15.000 So will the Prime Minister work with us on this and bring forward emergency legislation in the coming days, which I think the whole House would support?

00:16:22.000 Well, Mr Speaker, we are, of course, working to tackle all kinds of disinformation across the internet and he's right to single out the anti-vaxxers.

00:16:34.000 There you are.

00:16:35.000 That is how Keir Starmer was in opposition.

00:16:39.000 How might you imagine that he will govern?

00:16:42.000 presumably in accordance with global edicts, presumably kowtowing to institutions such

00:16:48.000 as the WHO and NATO and financial institutions of a global nature.

00:16:54.000 Presumably he will be inviting and enticing Bill Gates at all to contribute.

00:17:00.000 This to me does not seem like a departure from the last 14 years for all of their ineptitude

00:17:05.000 and obvious corruption.

00:17:08.000 Rishi Sunak with his connections to Moderna even prior to entering government extraordinarily.

00:17:14.000 Although this might be a variation, it's not a significant change, is it?

00:17:19.000 And this taken in step with France's recent political machinations where it seems the system can be manoeuvred to create the desired results while maintaining for us the spectacle of democracy or representative electoral systems.

00:17:33.000 Choose your own idiom.

00:17:35.000 It seems to me, more than ever, we have to start recognising that radical change is what's required.

00:17:41.000 And where does radical change begin?

00:17:43.000 I would offer you, it begins within.

00:17:46.000 It begins by listening to your own heart.

00:17:48.000 It begins by connecting to nature and one another and rejecting the information that we get from Keir Starmer and his globalist media But that's just what I think.

00:17:58.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.

00:18:00.000 If you're watching us on YouTube right now, we're going to be available for a matter of seconds more because I'm joined by our fantastic guest Dave Martin.

00:18:08.000 Dave Martin has torn up the rule book when it comes to reporting on matters of globalism and global health, the power of Big Pharma, the corruption of regulatory bodies, and I'm today going to ask him the questions that matter.

00:18:21.000 Starting with this one, Dave Martin.

00:18:23.000 Dave Martin, once and for all, can you tell us For an actual fact, do you believe that those medications killed more people than they saved?

00:18:35.000 Let's do a very simple math exercise, shall we?

00:18:38.000 Yes!

00:18:39.000 The math exercise that we're told in the world of public health is really simple.

00:18:44.000 We do what's called a cost and benefit analysis.

00:18:48.000 And in the world of public health, the cost is, if you don't take measures, if you don't do things, what will the outcome be?

00:18:57.000 And the benefit is supposed to be is there a social gain in the world of public health where if we take a measure is there a public gain that we're going to get from that measure?

00:19:09.000 And unfortunately in this particular case the whole system from the outset was set up to actually unfortunately for the whole world never answer the social question is as we just heard from Keir Starmer is there A social benefit.

00:19:28.000 Are you helping grandma?

00:19:29.000 Are you helping your neighbor?

00:19:30.000 Are you helping your community?

00:19:32.000 Are you helping other people?

00:19:34.000 And the answer is very simple.

00:19:36.000 This injection was designed to genetically modify your body so that your body manufactured a toxin to which your body may, may, and the may we didn't have any evidence to support, May develop some sort of a immune like response.

00:19:59.000 Tiny little problem.

00:20:01.000 The clinical trial specifically said it wasn't measuring transmission.

00:20:05.000 It wasn't measuring infection.

00:20:07.000 It was measuring only the severity of capriciously defined symptoms.

00:20:13.000 In other words, This shot only had an effect on you.

00:20:17.000 It didn't have an effect on the community.

00:20:18.000 It was not a public health measure.

00:20:21.000 As the Ninth Circuit Court recently found, it was actually a medical procedure, not a vaccination.

00:20:29.000 As the companies themselves reported, this was gene therapy, not immunotherapy.

00:20:35.000 As it is gene therapy, as it is an experimental gene therapy, what we can say is every single adverse effect was in fact An effect that happened without a social benefit.

00:20:47.000 In other words, the cost to society and the cost to the individual taking the injection outweighed any proposed benefit whatsoever.

00:20:57.000 My God.

00:20:58.000 And that is an absolute statement.

00:21:00.000 More people died from the intervention.

00:21:00.000 Yes.

00:21:06.000 More people got sick from the intervention than had no intervention been taken whatsoever.

00:21:14.000 I'm sure you've already seen this clip of Bill Gates advocating for vaccination for everything.

00:21:21.000 It only takes about 30 seconds, Dave.

00:21:23.000 I'd love for us to watch it together.

00:21:25.000 I believe it's Asset 37.

00:21:26.000 That's not on my board.

00:21:27.000 So guys, could you play that in from the gallery so me and Dave can watch it in full together and then we'll comment on this.

00:21:33.000 Because this is Bill Gates saying vaccines for everything now.

00:21:36.000 Let's have a look.

00:21:37.000 Making the mRNA is really easy and really cheap and that's the magic of this thing.

00:21:43.000 But there's no doubt in the next five years we can, you know, we just need to mess around.

00:21:48.000 There's a lot of lipid nanoparticles and some are very self-assembly.

00:21:52.000 There's no inherent reason it's not thermal stable, it's not cheap, and it's not scalable.

00:21:57.000 And so as over the five years we fix that part of it, mature it, which which is very typical, we'll be able to build factories

00:22:06.000 worldwide that can make $2 vaccines with even less lead time than we've had to have here during

00:22:13.000 this pandemic. And we'll use those, as you suggest. For every disease that we don't have

00:22:20.000 vaccines, we will try mRNA.

00:22:22.000 In fact, for HIV, we have multiple ways.

00:22:25.000 One that's more of a B-cell approach, one that's more of a T-cell approach.

00:22:28.000 For malaria, we have multiple ideas.

00:22:30.000 For TB, we have multiple ideas.

00:22:32.000 And so to fill in the missing vaccines, we'll make a lot of our bets of the Gates Foundation and others who care about global health will be mRNA focused.

00:22:47.000 What do you make of that, Dave?

00:22:50.000 Does this seem like the part of a broader plan being introduced to us more widely?

00:22:56.000 Well, as you know, Russell, we have no question that the Gates Foundation has for its entire existence been promoting experimental therapies of every variety.

00:23:10.000 And the mRNA platform, which he just got done advocating, saying that we can just mess around Just mess around with human genome.

00:23:19.000 Let's just mess around with it, play around and over the next five years we're going to come up with the way we can take this mess of the mRNA platform and we can fix it so that we can get everybody treated is a sociopath telling you that he is going to experiment with the death and destruction of humanity and he is going to do it with impunity.

00:23:46.000 I can't still understand how this amount of power has coagulated around these individuals, how it's happened so... Well, I guess when I listen to you, Dave, I recognise that it's not happened rapidly when you explain to me the history of the WHO, when you give me some insights to how these bureaucracies have been formed What's remarkable about the way that media works nowadays is it's possible for us, over the course of one conversation, to see Biden advocating enthusiastically for the shots, to see the legacy media carrying that message, and then to see, as we have done, as we can see now, that the Biden administration are seeking to delay

00:24:28.000 The release of data relating to COVID vaccines and their side effects.

00:24:32.000 How do you imagine that they will be able to maintain control of the narrative when it seems pretty clear that the measures that they're taking now are an attempt to obscure the truth that they have, you know, up till now denied?

00:24:48.000 Well, Russell, remember, and I try to remind people that the clinical trials for the mRNA shots are a matter of public record.

00:24:56.000 This is not This is not something that is hidden.

00:25:00.000 It's not something that requires a FOIA request.

00:25:02.000 The clinical trials for this particular intervention are still open in their second phase.

00:25:08.000 We are not into post-approval programs.

00:25:16.000 We're still in the clinical trials phase and we will be in that phase until 2027.

00:25:22.000 So when we talk about we're not disclosing and we're not letting all this information get released, We need to understand we're still in the middle of the clinical trial.

00:25:32.000 As recently as two months ago the Moderna clinical trials were updated because there were all kinds of changes to the protocol.

00:25:41.000 So not only are we not going to see the data but we remember that in 2016 to 2018 the pharmaceutical industry collaborated with the World Health Organization to change the definition of adverse events.

00:25:58.000 They literally ripped the definition out of the dictionary and said that adverse events can only be counted if there is published scientific literature that shows that the adverse event is shown to have been in scientific studies validly associated with the alleged intervention.

00:26:21.000 Here's a tiny problem.

00:26:23.000 When you have Gates on the one hand, and you had in the COVID case, this manufacture of an experimental gene therapy, the injection of it into billions of people's arms, and then you change the definition of adverse event to say that adverse events aren't adverse if they have not been published before.

00:26:42.000 Listen to what I just said.

00:26:43.000 If they haven't been published before, they don't exist.

00:26:48.000 And now we're not going to publish them.

00:26:50.000 So great news!

00:26:52.000 There will be no adverse events.

00:26:54.000 It's an amazing racket and this is why we have to see that when they changed the legal definition of adverse event in 2018, they actually wrote the law so that there can be no adverse event to any of Bill Gates's mRNA platforms.

00:27:12.000 There will be no adverse events because we don't have published scientific literature showing causality and as such they don't exist.

00:27:20.000 It's extraordinary to see those kind of legislative changes taking place prior to 2019.

00:27:31.000 I recently saw you describing the significance of event 201.

00:27:35.000 I find it 201, yeah.

00:27:40.000 Thank you, Dave.

00:27:40.000 201.

00:27:41.000 I find it so hard, even after all these years, even after having the privilege of having conversation with people like you, to accept that these staged events precipitated and preceded the pandemic, meaning that this is in fact that the worst possible appraisal of what took place in those couple of years is the truth.

00:28:07.000 That it was pre-planned, that it was designed to create opportunity for authority, to create profit, and probably even more malfeasant goals than that.

00:28:18.000 How do you interpret the fact that that legislation was made, that legislative change was made in 2018, event 201 happens in 2019?

00:28:28.000 How do you interpret that, Dave?

00:28:33.000 Remember, I don't have to interpret it.

00:28:35.000 Remember, I don't have to because September 18th, 2019 is the day that lives in infamy and will live in infamy For all of human history it is the date when the World Health Organization said there would be a accidental or intentional release of a lethal respiratory pathogen so that by September 2020 the world would accept the universal vaccine.

00:29:03.000 The World Health Organization stated on September 18th in publication in the document a world at risk.

00:29:12.000 They stated that there would be a release of a lethal respiratory pathogen for the purpose of a universal vaccine by September 2020.

00:29:23.000 Russell, I don't have to guess.

00:29:25.000 I don't have to state my opinion.

00:29:26.000 I just have to read their plan.

00:29:31.000 It's, I suppose, comparable to the Project for the New American Century, where it was written down, we need a Pearl Harbor-like event to legitimize a spate of Middle Eastern wars.

00:29:45.000 There's a kind of theme developing, there is now a kind of bureaucratic paper trail available to us.

00:29:53.000 Why is it so hard, when this kind of information is available, to make a reasoned argument about the ongoing assent and death grip of globalist governments on civilised and significant nations around the world?

00:30:08.000 Why have the UK just voted in with a pretty significant mandate, a centrist, WEF-oriented Labour Party?

00:30:17.000 How have France been able to manoeuvre to ensure Macron remains president and what is happening, I mean this is a lot of questions, but what is happening in the United States right now to either ensure that Biden is able to continue to run as president or that minimal change and impact takes place during and around the next election?

00:30:41.000 Well, Russell, you and I have had this conversation and I celebrate the fact that we continue to have it and I will celebrate that we continue to have it as long as we can, which is that we, the people, have allowed these systems to go into near autopilot.

00:31:00.000 The complacency and the acquiescence of the masses to get steamrolled into this belief that says, well, I don't know how it happened, but it just happened.

00:31:14.000 We allegedly changed the UK government, but apparently what we got was an apologist for Boris Johnson.

00:31:25.000 That doesn't feel like change at all.

00:31:26.000 That doesn't feel like any alteration in the status quo.

00:31:29.000 And then you realize, oh, hold on a minute.

00:31:32.000 That's because Boris Johnson didn't represent himself or his ideology anymore than the current government represents itself or its ideology.

00:31:41.000 The fact of the matter is, and I've said this, you know that I talked about this back in 2010 and 11 and 12, but this goes all the way back to the first Bush presidency when I said when investors, largely pharmaceutical and defense, bought both sides of the ticket.

00:32:00.000 Meaning the Democrats and the Republicans were in fact owned by the same people.

00:32:07.000 Then it doesn't actually matter what puppet you put into whatever position you ascribe having power because it is merely puppetry.

00:32:17.000 At that point in time, the marionette strings are what we should be paying attention to, not the thing that we see dancing on the stage.

00:32:24.000 And the thing we see dancing on the stage looks like, oh my goodness, he's wearing different clothes.

00:32:29.000 Oh my gosh, he doesn't have any clothes at all.

00:32:31.000 And we watch the puppet and we forget that it's a puppet.

00:32:36.000 And we forget that the same hand is pulling on both sides of the string.

00:32:41.000 So we've got the puppet string on this side, the puppet string on this side, and lo and behold, if we look up, we see it's the exact same hand running the puppet.

00:32:52.000 And it doesn't matter which side they're on.

00:32:53.000 Macron could not be a better example of what I just said.

00:32:58.000 There's no way that he actually has a mandate But he's helpful for the people who mandate what's going to happen.

00:33:08.000 And this is the point.

00:33:08.000 The point is, we still are living in the illusion that goes all the way back to what we fantasized about in the 13th century, where we fantasized about maybe we would have rights as people.

00:33:23.000 To actually live and have liberty and have livelihood and have all of the things that matter.

00:33:29.000 We live in that fantasy only to find out that the reality is that a very small group of people are the people who are actually managing the theater.

00:33:41.000 And we are merely observers of the theater until we choose to stop playing along.

00:33:49.000 And we must stop playing along.

00:33:51.000 We must actually leave the theater.

00:33:54.000 And I wonder what this new resistance movement is going to look like.

00:33:54.000 I love it!

00:33:58.000 Early indications suggest that populism is on the rise, primarily across Europe, and I believe in your country, in the form of right-wing populism.

00:34:09.000 But I have a sense that what we need to come up with is a little more sophisticated A little more inclusive and a little more anti-big finance and big corporations.

00:34:18.000 Dave, after a short break, I want to ask you about what the next event will likely be to legitimise further authority through crisis.

00:34:26.000 Will it be war?

00:34:27.000 Will it be bird flu?

00:34:28.000 How will we organise in the way that we surely must against it?

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00:36:40.000 Oh, OK.

00:36:41.000 Well, while we're doing that, let me show you something that I want to talk to Dave about.

00:36:47.000 While we wait for Dave, let's have a quick look at this bird flu clip.

00:36:53.000 Asset 28, that's actually just one over the page.

00:36:57.000 Let's have a look at this.

00:36:57.000 Nice one, guys.

00:36:58.000 We're going to ask Dave about bird flu.

00:36:59.000 He's just dropped off Zoom.

00:37:01.000 It's presumably...

00:37:04.000 Will bird flu be one of the next measures deployed against us?

00:37:09.000 Let's have a look.

00:37:10.000 We turn now to the growing concerns over the spread of bird flu.

00:37:13.000 A third human case has now been reported in the US.

00:37:16.000 Another farm worker in Michigan.

00:37:18.000 While officials say the risk to the general public remains low, work on vaccines is already underway.

00:37:25.000 Better believe they're working on vaccines because it seems, as Bill Gates said, you name it, and even if you can't name it because it's unpronounceable, we will have a gene therapy for it.

00:37:35.000 It's enough to send you dancing into the arms of the Lord.

00:37:39.000 That's why over on Locals the other day, I don't know if you saw it yet, it's up already, I had a conversation with Bishop Robert Barron.

00:37:45.000 We talked about theology, we talked about personal relationship with Christ, and we talked about Interpreting the Bible.

00:37:50.000 We talked about a whole lot of stuff and it's Asset 17.

00:37:52.000 While we wait for Dave to come back, have a look at this and consider becoming an Awakened Wonder and joining us.

00:37:57.000 I suppose that I've come to faith through addiction, through despair, through suffering, through loss, through isolation, through disappointment, through heartbreak, heartache and personal ruin.

00:38:08.000 You came to it through addiction, through a kind of Spiritual, moral, crisis.

00:38:15.000 And that's a classical path to God.

00:38:17.000 You know, when something falls apart in this world and then a deeper, higher world opens up in that process.

00:38:23.000 Or when you hit the bottom of an addiction and you realize, this is taking me nowhere, it can open you up then to what's beyond all addictive desire, which is the desire for God.

00:38:34.000 And what's disguised in all addictive desire is ultimately a desire for God.

00:38:38.000 So, that's a powerful thing, and you're standing in a great tradition there, going back to the New Testament itself, coming up through all kinds of the lives of the saints.

00:38:46.000 So, that's a beautiful path, you know?

00:38:48.000 Now, having gone through that, then you are better suited to be an active presence and

00:38:56.000 a transformative presence in the world.

00:39:07.000 Dave, I'd be very grateful to talk to you about your spiritual journey and your faith, but when we left off we were discussing the next likely outbreak and the next measures to be able to implement Further global control.

00:39:26.000 We can assume that at least part of that will be cyber attacks because Dave Martin appears to have been yanked right off of Zoom again.

00:39:33.000 This is a... When Dave comes back, I want to talk to him about this.

00:39:37.000 Actually, it's up to you.

00:39:38.000 I could talk to you about Remdesivir, or I could talk to you about the latest media scramble and the latest attempt to reframe... Dave's back, thankfully, but I've got some good stuff to show you.

00:39:50.000 Dave, before you were cyber-attacked right off of Zoom, I was asking you about what you considered would be the next event.

00:39:57.000 Now that we can track these patterns, now that you are able to observe the paper trowels, what do you imagine is going to be the next event?

00:40:04.000 Is it going to be bird flu?

00:40:05.000 Is it going to be increasing war?

00:40:07.000 How will they, through crisis, legitimise further controls?

00:40:10.000 What's your opinion on that, sir?

00:40:13.000 Well, let's double check.

00:40:15.000 First of all, can you hear me, Russell?

00:40:16.000 Because I want to make sure you can hear me.

00:40:17.000 I hear you loud and clear, and I see you in Technicolor, and you're more beautiful than ever, if such a thing were possible.

00:40:23.000 Beautiful.

00:40:24.000 There you go.

00:40:26.000 So, I said on the show I did with Alex Jones the other day, that we're in the middle of World War III.

00:40:34.000 And I'm going to just take a quick little framing response, because if we understand that in war, The enemy is always going to be using multiple strategies at any point in time.

00:40:45.000 It's going to be information warfare.

00:40:47.000 It's going to be kinetic warfare.

00:40:49.000 So what we saw just recently with the Ukraine, what we see that's going on in Israel and Gaza, what we see that's going on across the destabilization of parts of right now South America, where we see resurgence of this alleged kind of anti-government force activity that's going on.

00:41:10.000 We're going to see kinetic warfare, but we're also going to see the now biological warfare, which is going to be vast and without question, the greatest deployment that we have on this earth, because it becomes so easy to deploy.

00:41:27.000 All you do is you create the illusion of fear.

00:41:31.000 And ironically, rather than running away from the battlefield, You actually see people running to the clinic to get shot, literally running to get shot.

00:41:43.000 This is the weirdest war that we could ever imagine.

00:41:46.000 It's the only one that we've seen in human history where the victims of the war have run into the live fire zone.

00:41:56.000 It's called a clinic.

00:41:58.000 It's called a hospital.

00:42:00.000 It's called a Pharmacy. 0.92

00:42:02.000 It's called a drugstore. 0.61

00:42:04.000 You are running into the bullets.

00:42:07.000 Don't run into the bullets.

00:42:09.000 Think about how ridiculous the H5N2 bird flu story is when I tell you, Russell, that in patents that we have identified, The H5N2 bird flu was available for commercial sale.

00:42:27.000 Listen to what I just said!

00:42:28.000 Available for commercial sale from EEI Resources, which is a company owned by, are you ready for this?

00:42:36.000 NIAID.

00:42:39.000 Who would have seen it coming?

00:42:41.000 A company It was started by the Rockefeller Foundation, owned by NIAID, a for-profit business that calls itself non-profit because only for research purposes.

00:42:52.000 But they have a catalog, Russell, from which you can buy H5N2.

00:42:57.000 You can just, kind of like Amazon, just flip through it and go, yeah, I'll have H5N2, please.

00:43:04.000 And then I'll have Ebola over here and I'll have this modification of something else.

00:43:10.000 When I actually first said, That H5N2 was actually found in a patent.

00:43:18.000 And then in the patent it said, purchased from BEI Resources.

00:43:23.000 And then you go back and you look, who's BEI Resources?

00:43:26.000 And you read that this is a Rockefeller Foundation started, NIAID owned, commercial venture of selling pathogens I don't know how you feel about the whole pandemic version of this story, but I'm sitting there going, if Walmart got into the business of shipping pathogens, or if Amazon got into the business of shipping monkeypox to your front door, maybe you'd fall for it too.

00:43:53.000 But I wouldn't fall for it if I actually saw that you could buy it off of a catalog.

00:44:00.000 That's extraordinary and I suppose it's now increasingly obvious why there are such virulent and potent attempts to control communication and information.

00:44:13.000 Why the categories of misinformation had to be created because I suppose we're at the point that now everyone watching this live stream, everyone that's watching this on demand, everyone that's watching this cut up and posted on X is now aware That you can go to a kind of pathogen catalogue and order diseases.

00:44:30.000 So we are now forearmed.

00:44:33.000 But how is it, I suppose, Dave, that we are able to resist these ongoing attempts to increase censorship, the apparent victories of authoritarian and globalist governments around the world,

00:44:45.000 when it seems that what we're confronted with might be an urgent matter.

00:44:51.000 I know you're an optimistic man, I can tell it from your demeanour, your manner, the way

00:44:54.000 that you communicate.

00:44:55.000 You're not a pessimist, you remain, to me, when I talk to you, I always feel there's

00:45:00.000 the possibility of change, there's a possibility for revolution.

00:45:04.000 I wonder though, I wonder though how you envisage that unfolding when in every area of life,

00:45:10.000 whether it's the judiciary, whether it's the media, big pharma, the military industrial

00:45:14.000 complex, we seem to be seeing urgent exacerbation of crisis.

00:45:22.000 You know, I used the metaphor before, so I won't bore you with it again, but the rhinoceros in the movie 300.

00:45:30.000 The fact of the matter is, as we get towards the end of any period, and it doesn't matter what the period is, it can be a natural cycle, it can be a manufactured cycle, but when we get to the end of a period, what happens is frenetic behavior becomes the norm, meaning that the reflexes that the organism once used are going to just fire off.

00:45:53.000 And so what you have is this cacophony of activity, which on the one hand looks like it's very complicated and organized because you have a missile blast at a hospital here, and then you have a bird flu here, and then you have somebody in Mexico falling over, and then you have a shark bite somewhere else, and we just bounce this thing all over the place without pausing for just a moment and saying, oh, that's like an animal that's dying.

00:46:25.000 When all of a sudden it starts twitching, you know, and you start having these things that appear to be action, but they're not coordinated action.

00:46:36.000 They have lost the plot.

00:46:39.000 And bird flu is a beautiful example of this.

00:46:42.000 We were all supposed to line up for shots for bird flu.

00:46:45.000 I don't know if you know, but we were supposed to line up a couple weeks ago.

00:46:49.000 to start getting experimental injections around bird flu.

00:46:52.000 But the fear porn didn't work this time.

00:46:54.000 If you look at how much money the United States government allocated for bird flu, ironically, it's about $125 or $135 million.

00:47:00.000 hundred and twenty five hundred thirty five million dollars.

00:47:02.000 So so the billions of dollars that was the warp speed number

00:47:07.000 versus what they're doing for bird flu is telling you a very important thing.

00:47:11.000 And that is we are prevailing.

00:47:14.000 That's the message.

00:47:15.000 We're prevailing.

00:47:17.000 If we had not done the outspoken work we did during COVID, they would have gone for a billion dollars worth of bird flu shots.

00:47:26.000 But here's the problem.

00:47:28.000 The problem is, as Del Bigtree loves to celebrate, others love to celebrate, those of us who kept our ground, during this last attempt instilled enough uncertainty that now they're uncertain about their own effectiveness.

00:47:45.000 And that's why I, when I saw the announcement of the bird flu injection program for Moderna, I celebrated.

00:47:52.000 It's an order of magnitude smaller number.

00:47:56.000 And these are the, these are the encouraging things.

00:47:58.000 You have to look at these things and look at them and go, Oh my gosh, that's good news, not bad news.

00:48:03.000 It's great news that it was In the hundreds of millions of dollars range, not in the billions of dollars range.

00:48:10.000 What does it tell you?

00:48:11.000 It tells you that they know that there are not going to be enough people falling for this to jeopardize that much capital.

00:48:19.000 So I'm actually enthusiastic about it.

00:48:22.000 That's the weirdest thing to be happy about.

00:48:24.000 But I'm weird and I'm happy about it.

00:48:26.000 I'm weird about the happiness I have that says a few people and Russell, you know, You know your budget, your magnificent budget that, you know, you and your rumble cronies have.

00:48:38.000 These billions that you spend to promote yourself.

00:48:41.000 Oh, that's right.

00:48:41.000 No, you know how much I'm actually spending to promote my massive studio here.

00:48:47.000 Listen, a few of us prevailed against the force of darkness.

00:48:54.000 That's an amazing win.

00:48:55.000 And that's the reason why I'm so energized, because the facts are that if H5N2 was going to be the world ender that it was forecast to be.

00:49:08.000 That number would have been $12 billion.

00:49:11.000 And it was $125 million.

00:49:16.000 What a great win.

00:49:18.000 And the next one's going to be $12 million and Moderna will be bankrupt.

00:49:21.000 Here's the point.

00:49:23.000 The point is, we are already seeing the foundation crumble.

00:49:28.000 And we're watching as the building looks like there's cracks, there's cracks.

00:49:33.000 And we're watching, for example, in the United States, we're watching the cracks in the electoral system.

00:49:41.000 You know, right now, the Democrats can't figure out exactly how to save themselves from themselves.

00:49:49.000 That's hilarious.

00:49:51.000 It's fun to watch, because it's fun to see them on the one hand, Dial the dollars as soon as the debate was over and say, well, just an off night.

00:50:02.000 When you go, oh, no, no, no, no.

00:50:04.000 This is the same off night, off day, off evening, off morning, off every moment of time that we've seen him in front of a camera.

00:50:11.000 And God help you when he's not in front of a camera.

00:50:14.000 I'm sure it's worse because that's probably his best behavior.

00:50:18.000 What has happened is the cracks are growing.

00:50:23.000 I look at the elections in Europe.

00:50:25.000 And I look at the fact that right now we've seen the World Economic Forum sanctioned individuals ascend once again.

00:50:34.000 But that just galvanizes the ability to do what you alluded to, which is there is a better us.

00:50:42.000 There is a representational us.

00:50:44.000 And it is not reactionary extreme right extremists.

00:50:47.000 And it's not the what we saw in Switzerland back 20 years ago.

00:50:52.000 What this is, is a fat middle of the population, which are decent, hardworking, ethical, moral, good human beings.

00:51:02.000 They do not have a voice yet, but the hum is beginning.

00:51:11.000 The hum is beginning.

00:51:13.000 And that's the sweeter song.

00:51:15.000 This is like Orpheus as he's coming out of hell, right?

00:51:19.000 It's just, you just get the faint whispers of it.

00:51:23.000 But we know how many there are, and it is at least a third of the world's population that will stand in solidarity to a good, moral, correct, ethical, transparent, humble, powerful voice of the people who say, you know what?

00:51:47.000 We want a little more tolerance than the extreme right has been willing to offer.

00:51:52.000 But we want a little more accountability and discipline than the left has been able to offer.

00:51:56.000 We want to actually have a conversation about the emergent representation of the moral compass that is essentially human.

00:52:05.000 And that sound is growing, Russell, and I'm so thrilled that all it took was a few voices to keep the tone going during the darkness, and now the chorus is rising.

00:52:19.000 That's a very beautiful soliloquy of hope there, and some wonderful references.

00:52:25.000 And it's clear now, even in the retrospect afforded by just a couple of years, that it was an attempt to seize complete control.

00:52:34.000 And you're right, what would be, had the plan succeeded, an escalation of authoritarianism Exactly as you described with the bird flu measures, precisely as we observed with the failed WHO treaty, would have escalated further, but the voices and perhaps more importantly the connection of voices, the sort of symphonic impact of various nodes finding a kind of harmony, was able to create sufficient opposition.

00:53:05.000 I wonder then how much more cultural division we will see around issues that have always been hot-button topics in your country, the subjects that have always been able to rouse people.

00:53:19.000 I wonder how the deep state will be able to continue to manage media spaces and how a candidate like Bobby Kennedy will be managed Curtailed, eliminated, silenced, because just in preparation for today's conversation I was watching Bobby Kennedy talking about Remdesivir and Fauci and how long Anthony Fauci has been involved in sort of epic corruption that's kind of staggering to listen to.

00:53:49.000 If someone gave us all of that information, which I know you were privy to, At the point that Fauci was being heralded as the voice of the pandemic response.

00:53:59.000 He in holy triumvirate with Bill Gates and other figures that were less visible but still lauded.

00:54:07.000 That we would have regarded him from the beginning as criminal.

00:54:12.000 Sometimes I'm Still astonished to hear your admonishing assessments of organisations like the WHO, WEF.

00:54:22.000 Last time we spoke, you talked to me about the indemnity that they were granted, that they granted themselves at the point of their inception, which is somewhat reminiscent, I suppose, of vaccine manufacturers always having been granted Indemnity.

00:54:39.000 I wonder what you think will happen because currently our mainstream media spaces are in a cyclone of analysis of Biden's debate performance.

00:54:47.000 Bobby Kennedy is being, as all independent candidates are, ridiculed.

00:54:52.000 There is a populist uprising that continues around Trump and what he represents.

00:54:56.000 He's certainly very popular in some of the spaces we work in.

00:55:01.000 I wonder how you feel we might see shifts in those spaces.

00:55:05.000 For example, do you think it's significant that you might now see Jake Tapper openly ridiculing Biden on CNN or Van Jones?

00:55:14.000 Like the kind of choir choristers of the establishment are now openly

00:55:20.000 criticizing establishment figures. Do you see that as part of the string twitches

00:55:26.000 of the marionettes before some new stooge is ushered in?

00:55:30.000 And where do you see the potential for Bobby Kennedy to make an impact and

00:55:36.000 indeed the opposite of that, the potential for him to be controlled?

00:55:41.000 Well there's a lot in that but let's let's start with the the post debate

00:55:49.000 performance and what's happened and I'm glad you brought up Van Jones.

00:55:53.000 Van Jones and I had the opportunity to interact years ago on a whole other level when we were working with the NFL to try to deal with the financial Crimes that were being committed by financial advisors who were stealing vast wealth from NFL players who were financially illiterate.

00:56:13.000 And that's where I got to meet him.

00:56:15.000 And here's the thing I will say is, I was not surprised to see Van Jones come out after the debate going, we've got a problem.

00:56:24.000 And that's because, albeit the apologist he is for the mainstream narrative, he also knows that he has to have his own future.

00:56:34.000 And it turns out that self-interest does play a role in this and self-interest is something where at a certain point in time, your credibility does in fact matter.

00:56:45.000 Now, obviously, I would suggest that MSNBC has selectively The vast majority of people who are commentators in this particular narrative are starting to realize that they have to live outside of this election cycle, and as a result, they're starting to pull back from the just full-on apologist that they've been.

00:57:17.000 Bobby's an interesting one, and he's interesting in that An enormous amount of the material that he is now coming out with in the last few months was presented to him when he and others were part of our efforts in early 2020 and mid-2020 to bring public awareness to a number of the things that are now news items that he's bringing out.

00:57:40.000 And I sit back and ask the question, well, I know, for example, when he got the proposal from me, because I sent it to him, I know when he got the proposal to actually take a direct hit on Pfizer.

00:57:52.000 And I know what his response was then.

00:57:56.000 And the fact is that there were a number of steps that he could have taken early on to use his voice and his platform to actually mitigate some of the harm that's done.

00:58:06.000 And when people do the, well, Bobby Kennedy would do this or do that, I sit there going, well, I don't have a theoretical on this one because I have personal experience.

00:58:14.000 And I know the decisions that were made in expediency.

00:58:17.000 And I understand.

00:58:19.000 Let me be very clear.

00:58:20.000 I understand that every political calculus has to have an expediency component to it.

00:58:27.000 But I live in a world where right still exists, where the right thing to do is the right thing to do.

00:58:35.000 And it may cost you a lot.

00:58:37.000 It may cost you everything.

00:58:39.000 And it's still the right thing to do.

00:58:41.000 And I also know that that's in rare supply in the political arena.

00:58:47.000 As I was asked by Alex Jones what I thought about the Trump situation, specifically around Operation Warp Speed, I've said many times, there's no question in my mind, that when he signed the executive order on September 19, 2019, and you heard the date right, that's when the executive order was signed, for DNA-based vaccines, Which, I don't know if you remember, but during the summer of 2019, we were all suffering from a myriad of ailments and maladies, and I think Ricketts and Scurvy were running amok among all the sailing class.

00:59:27.000 I don't know why we needed to have DNA-based vaccines in an executive order on September 19, 2019, except for the fact that the coup that was going to happen to overthrow the Trump administration from inside was actually putting its teeth into the system and putting its plan in motion.

00:59:48.000 And, as I said before, I think it would be fabulous for Trump to say, guess what?

00:59:54.000 Corruption inside of my administration led to a series of events for which I can publicly apologize.

01:00:02.000 You know what that takes?

01:00:04.000 That takes a moral compass.

01:00:06.000 That takes a sense of identity.

01:00:08.000 That takes a sense of humility and, and are you ready for this?

01:00:11.000 Power.

01:00:12.000 Because you find out that real power comes from being that self-aware character that says, hey, guess what?

01:00:21.000 I got misinformation.

01:00:22.000 I had evil actors that were working behind the scenes to harm me.

01:00:25.000 And I have the ability to stand up and say, I was duped.

01:00:30.000 I was wrong.

01:00:31.000 Whatever.

01:00:32.000 Come up with something.

01:00:33.000 And lo and behold, what he'd find is his popularity would rise.

01:00:39.000 It would rise.

01:00:40.000 It would rise by virtue of being humble.

01:00:44.000 But what we have right now in all three candidates, Russell, all three of them, not just Trump, not just Biden, and not just Kennedy.

01:00:54.000 It's important to point out all three of them suffer from exactly the same problem, which is they double down when the information comes out that suggests that they could have made a better decision.

01:01:10.000 And this is a fascinating problem because the public knows, and by the way, everyone in the public knows, That the cleanest, most appropriate way to address a problem is head-on, at the moment it happens, with candor.

01:01:28.000 And the public, remarkably, is resilient.

01:01:31.000 Remarkably, is forgiving.

01:01:33.000 Remarkably, is understanding because they themselves have these exact same issues.

01:01:38.000 And this is the fundamental issue, at a character level, that we currently have with no possible option in any public arena right now.

01:01:51.000 Which is, can we find the humility and the power and grace to say, I was mistaken, I am sorry, and I will do better.

01:02:01.000 You're talking about humility, candor and grace.

01:02:06.000 And in that line of inquiry, which I know from various sectors will generate resistance, based on partisanship and personal affinity and affiliation, you indicated that perhaps the systems and institutions themselves have been co-opted by a type of psychic force That is immune to the type of morality that you're describing.

01:02:31.000 This may seem tangential, Dave, but I think you can handle it.

01:02:36.000 When I was reading about Christianity yesterday, C.S.

01:02:41.000 Lewis was talking about usury and systems of debt.

01:02:45.000 And he said from a specifically Christian perspective, these things are outlined again and again as wrong.

01:02:52.000 That's not unique to the Christian faith.

01:02:53.000 It sort of crops up.

01:02:56.000 It's extraordinary that this financial system that is again and again condemned in Christianity is the entire basis for our economies of debt.

01:03:10.000 I wonder if you see a kind of psychic correlative in the strains and strands of energy that appear to dominate systems of power that could be compared to economic systems themselves that are antithetical to moral systems of financial governance.

01:03:30.000 Do you feel that what we create are systems that preclude the potential for true human evolution, growth, or awakening?

01:03:40.000 Well, so let's unpack the very last statement you made.

01:03:44.000 Number one, yes, the debt-denominated system, which we have lived with for a long time, is a system that unfortunately celebrates decoupling the human condition and the environmental condition and everything else from the monetary system, because money becomes its own god in the debt-denominated system.

01:04:05.000 We often mistake These words we confuse the words credit because we have credit cards which are in fact debt.

01:04:14.000 We actually mistake the word credit for debt and I spent a lot of time in my blog Inverted Alchemy.

01:04:20.000 If you ever want to read it it's it's geeky and wonderful and it's lovely but in Inverted Alchemy I talk about this.

01:04:27.000 Credit was a beautiful construct that said that for example I'm going to sow a hundred seeds of grain and I'm going to harvest a crop That's going to each one of those seeds become itself a hundred seeds.

01:04:40.000 And so credit was what do I deposit today for a future yield that I know about?

01:04:46.000 And a whole credit system.

01:04:48.000 The last, by the way, the last bank that was established on this basis was the Dutch bank Rabobank.

01:04:54.000 It's the last one that was ever established on a credit system.

01:04:57.000 But credit was about what do I plant today for a harvest tomorrow?

01:05:02.000 And it worked because we knew what natural growth cycles were.

01:05:08.000 Debt, unfortunately, a legacy once again of the unholy convergence between life insurance, a essentially Christian phenomenon that was born out of the UK and Scottish and other Presbyterian cultures, but life insurance and debt, ironically, uncoupled productivity. 0.54

01:05:34.000 Most people don't know that debt and The construct of usury, the acceptance of it, was actually sold on the back of life insurance because life insurance was in fact the church's ability to pay priests little amounts, too little as a matter of fact, so that the widows and orphans of parish priests could actually survive after their parish priest husband died.

01:06:00.000 That's where the Scottish Presbyterians came up with the idea of life insurance in the first place.

01:06:04.000 But the debt system And the life insurance system came together after the Civil War in the United States, and our current economic system decoupled itself from productivity.

01:06:18.000 Now, what happens when that happens is really important, and this gets to the second part of this, which is when you decouple yourself from the natural scale of life, you open yourself up to shame.

01:06:32.000 Shame is at the heart.

01:06:37.000 The reason why we are incapable of getting to the transparency and the truth that we would in fact celebrate and love.

01:06:45.000 And here's the problem.

01:06:46.000 The problem is when you know you have done something wrong and that wrong might be a large scale social wrong.

01:06:55.000 Maybe it is the impoverishment of nations like we did with the wealth of nations with Adam Smith.

01:07:01.000 Maybe it's knowing that the lithium battery that you put into your electronic appliance came at the unconsidered cost of the lithium miner in south

01:07:09.000 america is gonna die at thirty seven years of age so that you can have an extended life battery in your cell phone

01:07:17.000 right.

01:07:17.000 Maybe we've got a problem where socially we've been asked the ties ourselves to the things that we should have cared

01:07:25.000 about but because we decoupled our life and our economy from our productivity and our

01:07:32.000 accountability what we got was a collective shame. We know we're living wrongly.

01:07:38.000 you We don't.

01:07:40.000 We know we are.

01:07:41.000 We don't want to be introduced with, God forbid, evidence that an extended life battery means somebody else's life literally has to end at half of its life expectancy so you can have your extended life battery.

01:07:54.000 We don't want to have that conversation, Russell, but the fact of the matter is the decoupling of accountability and productivity and natural cycles From our monetary system allows all of us to have the monetary system be the basis for change.

01:08:11.000 Not surprising.

01:08:13.000 Not surprisingly.

01:08:14.000 At the same time we have a pandemic, we start outlawing the use of cash.

01:08:18.000 Why?

01:08:20.000 Why?

01:08:21.000 Because cash isn't essentially democratic.

01:08:25.000 It's an essentially egalitarian means of engagement.

01:08:31.000 We push everybody into what?

01:08:33.000 Indebtedness.

01:08:35.000 We see record levels of consumer credit.

01:08:37.000 We see record levels of real estate credit.

01:08:40.000 We see record levels of these things.

01:08:42.000 And what we don't do is we don't put the pieces together and say, oh, this was never about an influenza from the Wuhan region of China.

01:08:54.000 This was about a planned demolition on humanity's ability to self-organize and to operate in democratic and socially acceptable principles.

01:09:04.000 And that's the reason why, literally, I go into shops and I carry cash.

01:09:09.000 I do it not because I don't have a credit card, I do, but I carry cash because I want to make my social statement that says, guess what?

01:09:19.000 I'm not playing the game.

01:09:22.000 I want this dollar that I spent for this particular item to live its own life with some other transaction somewhere else.

01:09:29.000 And I want to know that I am making the currency, remember the word currency, the flow of energy.

01:09:37.000 I'm going to make the currency work.

01:09:40.000 These are simple things, Russell, but they're profoundly important.

01:09:45.000 And by unpacking the association, we can understand that politically, We are allowing the most shame-carrying candidates to be the candidates that rise to the surface.

01:09:59.000 And what we could do is we could, once again, as you said this at the beginning of the show, start by the internal examination.

01:10:06.000 Do the inner work.

01:10:08.000 Be accountable for your own activity, your own life, your own responsibility, your own choices, and lo and behold, you then have the prophetic ability to ask for others to be equally accountable.

01:10:20.000 But we cannot, to borrow from the parable, remove the speck in our brother's eye, we have to take the plank out of our own, right?

01:10:28.000 Find our own planks and turn them into benches and deck work, and use those planks good You know, for good purposes, before we start looking outside at what everybody else has wrong.

01:10:40.000 I'm a huge fan of doing the inner examination so that you have the credibility to have a voice for the outer critique.

01:10:49.000 That's beautiful, that's a very beautiful way of stitching together or at least demonstrating the connections between the psychic terrain and what it obliviates and forbids and systems primarily economic and how they induce states.

01:11:09.000 I'd not heard that shame connection demonstrated or illustrated so cleverly before and how something that seems so personal as surely shame must to us all being systemically deployed.

01:11:27.000 I think it's a very good service you did by explaining that.

01:11:29.000 Well, think about what you played in your clip, right?

01:11:34.000 If you go back and you listen to the clip, get your booster, get your booster, get your booster, for what purpose?

01:11:42.000 It's appealing to shame.

01:11:47.000 People pretended like this was a social beneficence.

01:11:51.000 But remember that the shot was only for your hospitalization and your disease severity.

01:11:55.000 It wasn't to stop anything.

01:11:57.000 Yeah.

01:11:58.000 Australia is losing its mind right now because there's rampant, rampant cases of COVID in the most injected population, probably in most countries around the world.

01:11:58.000 Right.

01:12:08.000 And lo and behold, they're having These massive outbreaks of COVID, no one can credibly say, get your shot and take care of your neighbor.

01:12:16.000 This was selfishness for individual self-interest and you heard it in his own voice.

01:12:23.000 The World Economic Forum would collapse tomorrow if we had the right shame conversation.

01:12:29.000 Because their only currency, their only currency is the Jeff Epstein's.

01:12:34.000 And their only currency is the Lolita Expresses, and their only currency is the compromise that they have on people.

01:12:41.000 If we had the right conversation about shame, the World Economic Forum would end tomorrow.

01:12:47.000 I want to talk to you more about that.

01:12:48.000 I think that's really important and powerful, because obviously I've been attacked on a public level using precisely this weapon.

01:12:55.000 It's very interesting.

01:12:56.000 Exactly.

01:12:57.000 It's very interesting.

01:12:59.000 Thank you, Dave.

01:13:00.000 That was an amazing conversation.

01:13:02.000 I'm so glad that we have the opportunity to further augment and fortify our connection, our collaboration, and our growing unified mission to, through decentralized power, confront these forces that you have so beautifully researched, understood, and relayed to us as an audience.

01:13:23.000 It's always an honor.

01:13:23.000 Thank you.

01:13:26.000 And Russell, I want everybody to come to expect.

01:13:30.000 Expect the best.

01:13:33.000 Expect the best from yourself, from us, from these conversations.

01:13:37.000 Expect to be honored.

01:13:40.000 Expect to be respected.

01:13:42.000 Expect to come and be enriched.

01:13:44.000 So this is not some sort of experience where you kind of get the drive-by adrenaline hit and then you move on.

01:13:53.000 Expect excellence.

01:13:55.000 Because if you do, Our quality will only rise.

01:13:59.000 I will indeed.

01:14:01.000 Amen. Give my love to Kim, please. And thank you once again for her doing those drawings with my little daughter.

01:14:09.000 And thank you for that coin for my biggest daughter. That was a very beautiful occasion when we hung out that day.

01:14:14.000 Well, I have a whole bag for your daughters, so nobody has to choose coins next time. 0.92

01:14:20.000 Ha ha! 0.86

01:14:21.000 Excellent!

01:14:22.000 Thanks, man.

01:14:23.000 It's lovely to see you.

01:14:25.000 I'm coming to Milwaukee, actually, next week.

01:14:27.000 I don't know where you're going to be.

01:14:29.000 I'm being at the Russian... Not Russian. 1.00

01:14:33.000 Certainly the Republican Party is not controlled by Russia.

01:14:35.000 I'll be at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

01:14:40.000 Great.

01:14:41.000 Well, I'll be in South Dakota, so I won't be far away.

01:14:43.000 No, I'll be in Iowa, so I won't be far away.

01:14:46.000 We may be able to hook up.

01:14:48.000 We'll be together soon.

01:14:49.000 So much love to you and gratitude.

01:14:50.000 Thanks as always, Dave.

01:14:51.000 Speak again soon.

01:14:52.000 You bet.

01:14:52.000 Loads of love to you.

01:14:53.000 Thank you.

01:14:54.000 That was Dave Martin.

01:14:55.000 Thank you very much, everyone, for participating in that conversation.

01:14:57.000 Remember the conversation we had with Bishop Barron?

01:15:00.000 That's up there already if you want to check it out.

01:15:02.000 There's a link in the description if you guys want to come and see me in Milwaukee doing a couple of little shows there.

01:15:06.000 I'm doing one little show in the UK.

01:15:08.000 If you want to come and see me, Get the tickets to see me.

01:15:11.000 I'm in the south of the UK, just outside of London, doing a little show.

01:15:15.000 Uh, Friday!

01:15:16.000 So, uh, yeah, please come.

01:15:17.000 You're most welcome.

01:15:18.000 Thanks for joining us.

01:15:19.000 Tomorrow, am I allowed to say who the guest is tomorrow?

01:15:22.000 We've got Candice Owens on tomorrow, but we'll be available first for you Awakened Wonders on Locals for a week. 0.99

01:15:29.000 Friday, is that when we're... Oh, okay, yeah, that'll be for... available for Awakened Wonders on Friday.

01:15:33.000 Let me know what questions you have for Candice and we'll pass on the ones that are appropriate and polite.

01:15:39.000 And, uh, thanks very much.

01:15:40.000 It was a good conversation, that, with Dave Martin.

01:15:41.000 That shame thing he said was very, very important, I think, guys.

01:15:44.000 Um, there's your tickets.

01:15:45.000 There's your tickets.

01:15:47.000 So, love yous, guys.

01:15:48.000 Take it easy.

01:15:49.000 See you tomorrow.

01:15:50.000 Not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

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