Stay Free - Russel Brand - They’re HIDING THIS About Epstein! | Whitney Webb EXPLOSIVE Interview - Stay Free #288

00:00:00.000 I'm going to go ahead and get the rest of the food.

00:02:06.000 Oh In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:02:22.000 Alright you Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand and what a day it is!

00:02:26.000 If you're watching us on YouTube right now, we appreciate you and we love you, you Awakened Wonder, but there's no way we can use this platform to bring you a conversation from Whitney Webb, that savantish portal to truth, that early adapter of the Epstein Theory.

00:02:42.000 Why, back when Bill Gates was still thinking he was little more than a travel agent with Panache, Whitney Webb was going, I want to watch this Epstein dude! 0.83

00:02:52.000 We are talking to Whitney Webb later on the show.

00:02:54.000 It's like going to the university where conspiracy theories become conspiracy facts.

00:03:00.000 She takes some of the most extreme information.

00:03:02.000 The kind of information that shows you that the outliers, the people that have been reported on for years as being nutjobs, crackpots and lunatics, are actually a lot closer to giving us the truth than the likes of the legacy media, the trusted news initiative groups, those supporters of the pharmaceutical industry, those monsters and propagandists are demonstrably lying and Whitney Webb has bought receipts.

00:03:28.000 It's like getting a fantastic education and on that note, The BBC have been reporting on Disease X and we've got a wonderful dive into that.

00:03:36.000 Also we'll be talking about Davos because it's globalist Christmas up there in the Alps.

00:03:42.000 Klaus Schwab is generating more saliva than usual.

00:03:46.000 His cheeks are bloated.

00:03:48.000 I think the only people that enjoy Davos more than Klaus Schwab are potentially Rebel News, they love it! 0.65

00:03:54.000 And we've got a fantastic bit of content of Tony Blair, one of the globalist kings, being pursued through the streets, actually by a legacy media reporter, because there's a sort of scandal in this country to do with their post office, which is one of those kind of scandals that people can sort of handle.

00:04:08.000 20 years ago rather than the stuff that's going on right now that's frankly much, much worse that we're reporting on today.

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00:04:28.000 This week's video on the sudden and extraordinary 8% increase in child deaths In the UK certainly and potentially across the world.

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00:04:52.000 But hey, the world is in safe hands.

00:04:55.000 Another war in a country you've only just heard of.

00:04:57.000 Although I do believe that Matthew Perry went there once in his role as Chandler. I'm going to Yemen! 0.66

00:05:03.000 It's Yemen! Biden carefully and brilliantly explains how this war against Yemen will be

00:05:10.000 won.

00:05:11.000 Are the airstrikes in Yemen working?

00:05:13.000 Oh when you say working are they stopping the Houthis? 0.89

00:05:17.000 No.

00:05:18.000 Are they going to continue?

00:05:20.000 They're not stopping the Houthis, but we're going to carry on doing it anyway. 1.00

00:05:20.000 Yes. 1.00

00:05:26.000 Astonishing stuff.

00:05:28.000 Do you remember, yeah, here's a poll we done earlier.

00:05:30.000 What's the point of the Yemen airstrikes?

00:05:32.000 He says they're going to continue despite them not working.

00:05:35.000 Is the true aim to stop wars, 8% of you think it's that, or continue forever wars?

00:05:41.000 92% of you said that.

00:05:42.000 And to give you further evidence that we are on the precipice of the forever war, a kind of literal Orwellian nightmare where we're told that The continuation of war is the aim.

00:05:54.000 Here's NATO's Jens Stoltenberg.

00:05:56.000 Remember, he's the dude that admitted we've been provoking Putin.

00:06:00.000 He told us all we had to do is not yet let Zelensky in Ukraine join NATO and we'd back off.

00:06:05.000 But we said no, we're gonna bug that dude till he totally freaks out.

00:06:09.000 I'm paraphrasing!

00:06:10.000 Here's Nato Jens Stoltenberg speaking for himself, and this won't give you much hope that there will not be endless war.

00:06:16.000 Yeah, war is a racket, as second ch says in the Rumble chat.

00:06:20.000 Pedal2Metal, how's it going?

00:06:22.000 A-Einstein Universe, I'm sending you love.

00:06:24.000 In the Awakened Wonder chat, on locals, I'm talking to Motya28 and Kazo and KC40H.

00:06:29.000 Let's look at the head of Nato, who for some reason seems to think his opinion matters more than yours.

00:06:34.000 Here he is offering it.

00:06:36.000 ...is that if we want that to happen, a peaceful, just end to this war, the way to get there are more or is more weapons to Ukraine.

00:06:45.000 So the more credible we are in our military support, the more likely it is that the diplomats will succeed.

00:06:51.000 So you see, because you probably aren't clever enough, you don't understand how giving more and more weapons to Ukraine to perpetuate a war with a country with a nuclear armory, in this instance Russia, That leads to peace. 0.71

00:07:04.000 Do you see?

00:07:04.000 Do you not get it?

00:07:06.000 You're stupid! 1.00

00:07:07.000 Did you not go to university? 1.00

00:07:08.000 Are you not part of a professional media class?

00:07:11.000 Perhaps you're a working person.

00:07:12.000 Perhaps you just went to a normal school.

00:07:14.000 Maybe you don't trust the legacy media.

00:07:16.000 Let me explain again.

00:07:17.000 A trucker?

00:07:17.000 What are you?

00:07:18.000 And therefore probably a racist?

00:07:20.000 What are you, a key worker for a hospital?

00:07:22.000 Hero one minute, hated the next minute, when you're not fodder for the system no more?

00:07:26.000 Let me explain again.

00:07:27.000 Continuing war leads to peace. 1.00

00:07:29.000 Do you see?

00:07:30.000 Continuing war leads- war is peace. 0.98

00:07:33.000 Do you see?

00:07:34.000 Do you see now?

00:07:35.000 No, you don't see, do you?

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00:07:41.000 Like you, we're ready for a new system.

00:07:43.000 Like you, we're just about at the point where we're ready to die for this stuff.

00:07:47.000 I'm not!

00:07:48.000 Oh yeah, well yeah, there is one who's not ready to die for the cause, but other than that we're solid.

00:07:51.000 If you can name that film, we will send you a mug, if you can guess what that reference was.

00:07:56.000 First person to get that reference, we'll send you a delightful Stay Free Crow mug. 0.99

00:08:01.000 And if that wasn't enough good news for one day, remember if you're watching this on YouTube, we've got Whitney Webb coming up, who will take you through Conspiracy Theory University, help you to understand the true nature of Epstein's crimes it's kind of sort of worse than you think it is in some ways because it's so sort of financial and deep and there's no way that if you you know you'd sort of have to know man if you were involved with that stuff oh buddhist christianity life of brian yeah send us your details we'll send you a mug if you stay free team if you can catch that holy grail plinky plonk no no mug for you the good news is

00:08:34.000 That, thankfully, you know how it's highly likely that the Wuhan virus, and I'm being careful what I say here on YouTube because the WHO, remember, provide the community guidelines over on YouTube, and of course YouTube respond when the government say demonetized, YouTube say how high or how low I suppose, because demonetized is a low thing I suppose.

00:08:51.000 Anyway, the good news is this, China have been experimenting with a mutant coronavirus strain that has, don't worry, it has got a 100% fatality rate in mouses. 0.94

00:09:02.000 Chinese scientists are experimenting with a mutant... When I hear Chinese scientists, I don't think... Hooray! 1.00

00:09:08.000 That'd be a good name for a band, actually.

00:09:10.000 Chinese scientists.

00:09:11.000 We're the Chinese scientists.

00:09:12.000 Don't be racist against it.

00:09:14.000 Russell was not the messiah. 0.94

00:09:15.000 He's a very naughty boy.

00:09:16.000 Hey, why can't I be both?

00:09:17.000 Um, this lady, I think, before you all get into it, I think she's got maybe alopecia or something, so be compassionate and kind.

00:09:25.000 Also, why not look unusual and beautiful and striking in a variety of ways?

00:09:28.000 What's important is this is going to be a report about, like, I mean, when you listen to the symptoms these mouses have got, Tell me, which precedent does it remind you of?

00:09:39.000 COVID-19 strain that reportedly has a 100% kill streak in mice.

00:09:45.000 The new strain is called GXP2V and it attacks the brains of mice engineered to reflect similar genetic makeup to humans.

00:09:54.000 With most mice living just eight days after being infected with this virus, researchers report the mice lost weight, became sluggish, adopted a hunched Sluggish, hunched, posture with their eyes turning completely white the day before they died.

00:10:09.000 And this experiment, of course, brings back haunting memories from the 2020 pandemic.

00:10:13.000 Haunting memories.

00:10:14.000 It's Biden.

00:10:16.000 Yeah, that's not good news.

00:10:16.000 Yeah.

00:10:17.000 That's not...

00:10:18.000 Chinese?

00:10:19.000 That's enough of that. We can't keep going for that. We've got Whitney Webb coming up on the show.

00:10:22.000 She's gonna be talking about Epstein. She's gonna be talking about CBDC. She's gonna be talking about

00:10:25.000 globalism. It's an extraordinary conversation. Erica sees all. Mouses? Does he mean mice? No,

00:10:32.000 you know like one mouse and then mouses, numerous mouses.

00:10:36.000 Hey! 0.99

00:10:37.000 If you've been following globalism and the ascent of globalist elites for some time now, for example, from the Iraq war period where things started to go dreadfully wrong for everybody, particularly when it came to invading Middle Eastern companies for nefarious reasons and normally motivated by deception, Tony Blair will be a name you're familiar with.

00:10:54.000 Similarly, he was elected on a tidal wave of optimism.

00:10:57.000 Hey, he can play guitar!

00:10:58.000 I've seen him heading a football!

00:11:00.000 Optimism, everyone!

00:11:01.000 We found out eventually what Tony Blair was was a kind of globalist, a new kind of politician whose alliances and affiliations were to an establishment that's difficult to discern if you follow politics at the level of nations and oh the water board and who's paying for electricity but when you start to Look at geopolitics from an entirely different lens.

00:11:20.000 You see that Tony Blair seems to have a hell of a lot of influence.

00:11:23.000 He's being pursued through Davos by a news reporter and it's really amazing, particularly for British viewers, because eventually he runs into Gordon Brown who, like in sort of UK politics, it was kind of funny because the two of them had a pact who was going to be the leader of the Labour Party when they turned the Labour Party from a kind of party that was interested In supporting people to a corporatist party.

00:11:44.000 They had a kind of deal together.

00:11:46.000 Which one was going to go first?

00:11:47.000 And Tony Blair turned this dude over by... He just blagged him.

00:11:50.000 You know Tony Blair.

00:11:51.000 He's the person that makes pledges and then don't deliver.

00:11:54.000 Here he is being pursued.

00:11:55.000 Rebel News style through the streets of Davos.

00:11:58.000 Although I think it is by a legacy media journalist.

00:12:00.000 They're not all bad.

00:12:01.000 Remember that.

00:12:02.000 They're all human beings and therefore children of the Lord.

00:12:05.000 And just check out Tony Blair.

00:12:06.000 He's got some serious muscle on his team.

00:12:08.000 Your government was considering ditching the Horizon IT project back in 1998.

00:12:15.000 Do you regret not doing so?

00:12:16.000 What that report is talking about is a scandal where a bit of software went wrong and it meant that a bunch of people that worked at the mail service in the UK, the post office, were thought to have acted corruptly, incorrectly.

00:12:30.000 Many of them were, like, sort of sued.

00:12:31.000 I think some people went to prison.

00:12:32.000 Some people might have even taken their own lives.

00:12:34.000 And the whole thing was a total software error that it seems like maybe they hushed up.

00:12:39.000 Then the television made a drama about it and everyone started to pretend to care.

00:12:44.000 Now it's been on the television.

00:12:44.000 I care about this!

00:12:46.000 I saw an actor playing one of those postmen.

00:12:48.000 Now I care about it.

00:12:49.000 But of course the scandal happened ages ago.

00:12:52.000 I think the head of the Post Office got an MBE, which is something you get off the King or the Queen or whichever one's nominally in charge now.

00:12:57.000 So the whole thing is a sort of a big storm of publicity and nonsense and balderdash but how can anyone trust Tony Blair ever again after he said there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq after we found out they were sexying up a dossier.

00:13:10.000 There used to be anti-establishment attacks on figures like this and now everyone's just falling into lineman and heroes of companies like Pfizer.

00:13:18.000 The world's gone weird.

00:13:20.000 Mr Blair?

00:13:22.000 You had the opportunity to kill the Fujitsu project.

00:13:25.000 You chose not to.

00:13:26.000 Why not?

00:13:28.000 Do you regret that?

00:13:29.000 The main thing I like about Davos is this sort of stuff.

00:13:31.000 People in positions of power being pursued through snowy streets, clip-clopping around in what I imagine are relatively slippery brogues, really anxious that they're going to slip over either verbally or literally.

00:13:43.000 And you've got to give a shout out to Rebel News for pioneering this sort of technique of the long doorstep, just like Ezra Levant, just for ages, standing next to the head of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation going, hey, were you friends with Bill?

00:13:55.000 What's going on?

00:13:55.000 What do you think?

00:13:56.000 Hey, Why did Melinda leave the foundation? 0.99

00:13:56.000 What's it? 0.99

00:13:58.000 Did you ever go to Epstein's Island and discuss or something?

00:14:01.000 Oh, oh no!

00:14:02.000 Oh no!

00:14:03.000 No, it's Tony Blair though, a person that actually ran, you know, a country.

00:14:08.000 Tony Blair is still a person who has considerable political influence.

00:14:11.000 I remember once when I... I said this once publicly.

00:14:13.000 I went, there's no point voting for either party because they're both fundamentally the same.

00:14:16.000 And Tony Blair went, I literally don't know what he means.

00:14:18.000 I don't know what Russell Brand means.

00:14:20.000 I don't know what he means.

00:14:21.000 He kept saying it again and again.

00:14:22.000 It was really weird.

00:14:24.000 Decision, Mr Blair.

00:14:27.000 Do you feel in any way responsible for what has happened since?

00:14:30.000 You know why Tony Blair's at Davos?

00:14:39.000 He's talking about digital ID.

00:14:41.000 How you and me need digital ID.

00:14:43.000 You know, the kind of things that were talked about when they were trying to push the vaccine passport idea before it stopped making sense because there was no evidence, because there was no trialing that the vaccines prevented transmission.

00:14:54.000 Then it sort of didn't make sense to track who had vaccines and who didn't and it sort of fell apart for a moment but they'll be back.

00:15:00.000 In your country, the United States of America, they had a program and project to create, and this was an Obama, Barack Obama idea, a kind of driver's license for the internet.

00:15:09.000 Whitney Webb, our guest, we'll be talking about that later.

00:15:12.000 Get ready to get educated on globalism from an academic perspective by our journalist who's legit and has bought receipts.

00:15:19.000 After you've watched Whitney Webb, you are going to feel more intelligent, particularly if, like me, you take NMNs from Excuse me.

00:15:25.000 Black Forest. Are we still given a 25% discount on these things? How many have I had today? Am I

00:15:29.000 taking too many of these? You know I've got addiction issues, I have to be careful. But

00:15:31.000 I've got to have my M&Ms baby! They're like a head trip to listen to because they're only giving you 0.98

00:15:35.000 things you joke about with your friends inside your living room. Not M&Ms. I don't want to get

00:15:39.000 into Vivek territory here. Excuse me. Let's look at Tony Blair around the streets of Davos.

00:15:51.000 Peter Mendelsohn, Mr Blair, was worried about upsetting Fujitsu.

00:15:55.000 Was that a concern that you had?

00:15:57.000 Mr Blair?

00:16:02.000 Why won't you speak to us?

00:16:04.000 This is an important issue, isn't it?

00:16:06.000 Mr. Brett?

00:16:07.000 Oh my god!

00:16:15.000 I mean that's so sort of awkward and weird.

00:16:19.000 I always got a sense that Gordon Brown had a bit more integrity.

00:16:22.000 Do you know what that's based on?

00:16:23.000 He was sort of boring.

00:16:24.000 And like Tony Blair was one of them kind of like, you know how you had Bill Clinton?

00:16:29.000 With a saxophone, Tony Blair, he was always, you know, jerking around on the guitar and stuff, whereas Gordon Brown was sort of like, just groaning on about numbers and stuff, and sometimes I think those are the kind of politicians you want.

00:16:39.000 They're all these charismatic lunatics we've yielded to, appear to have odd ends.

00:16:47.000 Gordon Brown spoke to us about this yesterday, Mr Blair, will you? 0.55

00:16:50.000 Mr Blair, hello?

00:16:54.000 Mr Blair, hello?

00:16:56.000 We have to talk to more rich people.

00:16:59.000 Ha ha ha!

00:17:00.000 Did you see that?

00:17:01.000 If you're a lip reader, our producer Gareth just said that Blair went, the media!

00:17:05.000 And Brown went, oh God!

00:17:07.000 Oh, let's clip that up.

00:17:08.000 Nice.

00:17:09.000 Nice.

00:17:10.000 The real C Mike 21. 1.00

00:17:12.000 Probably grabbed his dick and twisted it. 1.00

00:17:14.000 Amazingly childish thing to say, you lunatics. 1.00

00:17:19.000 Richie Doop, Gordon Brown sold all gold reserves off, lol. 0.99

00:17:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:23.000 Yeah.

00:17:25.000 Get your hand off of my ear. 1.00

00:17:26.000 Funny.

00:17:27.000 There's some good stuff going on in the Rumble chat.

00:17:28.000 If you're watching us on YouTube, we'll be here for a couple more minutes before we migrate to that stream of freedom that is Rumble.

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00:17:43.000 We've just been meditating together.

00:17:44.000 We're doing everything we can to awaken together and change the world.

00:17:47.000 Remember, unified but decentralized.

00:17:50.000 True, true, true.

00:17:51.000 Democracy, baby.

00:17:53.000 Oh, someone who's been doing very well at Davos.

00:17:56.000 Who had a good Davos this year?

00:17:57.000 It's Javier Millet of Argentina who'd done a Ricky Gervais at Davos.

00:18:03.000 Elon's certainly well into it.

00:18:04.000 There you go.

00:18:05.000 Although, should we be showing that?

00:18:06.000 Does that seem right?

00:18:08.000 Is that right?

00:18:08.000 You know, we're a free speech platform, I suppose.

00:18:11.000 So, yeah, listen to this.

00:18:14.000 Here's the head of... Here's the president of the World Economic Forum openly discussing the new world order.

00:18:20.000 Don't you think they should stop saying stuff like new world order isn't it aren't these sort of tainted brands now they're going to literally do the eat the bugs thing again we are on the way to a new order so we are between orders

00:18:33.000 Do you agree with that or are there ways of what are we able to keep on the positive side from the old order to bring into a new world order?

00:18:44.000 Stop saying new world order!

00:18:46.000 People don't like it!

00:18:48.000 That brand has been very poorly tainted and for those of you, because I know loads of you like to look for signs and stuff, You'll be looking at the World Economic Foreign Sign.

00:18:58.000 You'll see it's bifurcated by a semicircle, meaning that there's a literal 666.

00:19:03.000 Given that they're like sort of a globalist organization, don't they need to check their branding and their messaging?

00:19:09.000 I mean, they're meant to be sort of a communication propagandist machine where the most powerful interests in the world come together to push a globalist agenda.

00:19:15.000 That's literally what they're doing.

00:19:17.000 And they keep saying things like New World Order, and their logo demonstrates actual Satan.

00:19:23.000 How can we avoid that that new world order becomes like jungle growing back and we rather have order based on international... The guy he's talking to is your President Joe Biden's national security advisor, so no worries there then.

00:19:40.000 The President of the United States national security advisor is talking to someone who's openly saying we need a new world order, which takes the best things!

00:19:47.000 Out of the old world order, like the centralised authoritarianism, the impecunious, impoverishing modalities, the militarism, the forever wars.

00:19:56.000 But we're going to need to introduce more tech and motion control.

00:19:59.000 How's it a satanic symbol says, actually Utah.

00:20:02.000 Oh, you're going to love this.

00:20:03.000 Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

00:20:04.000 Look at World Economic Forum.

00:20:06.000 Look at it.

00:20:07.000 Then look at the O's in the words WORLD, ECONOMIC and FORUM.

00:20:11.000 Each of them's got an O in it.

00:20:12.000 Then see how that semicircle goes for them and it makes 666 through the O's. 0.94

00:20:12.000 They line up. 0.94

00:20:17.000 It's fun, isn't it?

00:20:18.000 You can't unsee it once you see it.

00:20:19.000 Someone in the chat pointed it out to us and I love that kind of stuff.

00:20:24.000 Although, you know, when you start going, it's got 33 on it!

00:20:27.000 I do think this 33 vertebrae in the spine.

00:20:30.000 33 the age of our Lord Jesus Christ when he died.

00:20:33.000 That's why I'm into it.

00:20:34.000 Not in the Illuminati or the Masons, mind you.

00:20:37.000 I suppose probably people that are in it keep it quiet.

00:20:39.000 I guess that's how it works.

00:20:40.000 But what you probably would notice is they wouldn't say things like this.

00:20:42.000 Never trust globalism.

00:20:44.000 Never trust the establishment.

00:20:45.000 Never trust the legacy media.

00:20:46.000 Never trust anybody.

00:20:48.000 Demand on individual sovereignty and community democracy.

00:20:51.000 Do not trust the establishment.

00:20:53.000 Is that enough?

00:20:53.000 I don't know.

00:20:55.000 Law and the principles that have brought us prosperity and freedom for decades.

00:21:02.000 We are, you know, the post-Cold War era.

00:21:04.000 Kyle Reiner.

00:21:05.000 I'm a Mason.

00:21:06.000 Yeah, maybe it's alright.

00:21:06.000 I don't know.

00:21:07.000 Go on in there.

00:21:08.000 Has come to a close.

00:21:10.000 We're at the start of something new.

00:21:12.000 We have the capacity to shape what that looks like and at the heart of it will be many of the core principles and core institutions of the existing order.

00:21:23.000 Adapted for the challenges that we face today, and that's a lot of what I tried to lay out in my remarks.

00:21:30.000 Some of that goes to geopolitics and how we build or update the international economic order in ways that address the needs of working people, address the climate crisis.

00:21:41.000 Ah, the old climate crisis!

00:21:42.000 Because the new world order has to do that peculiar balancing act of appearing to be reverential to ethnic cultures and minority cultures, but without ever engaging in cultural re-appropriation.

00:21:54.000 They have to do a difficult job because fundamentally what's behind it is generate profit, Ensure that ordinary people are punished and controlled when it comes to subjects like climate change.

00:22:06.000 Ensure that there's no ability to challenge establishment and dominator culture narratives.

00:22:11.000 Shut down independent media.

00:22:13.000 All of that kind of stuff.

00:22:14.000 And then they've sort of got to soft sell it as being like, we care about the people.

00:22:19.000 And the way they do that is by getting sort of like native folk and indigenous people to perform their ceremonies.

00:22:24.000 And that's the sort of thing that I'm sort of down with as a matter of fact.

00:22:27.000 I'm really into Shamanism, I'm into like, you know, though I've never take drugs, I'm in recovery, but like ayahuasca ceremonies sound pretty interesting and exciting.

00:22:36.000 I have to do it the hard way myself as a meditator and a lover of the Lord and the light and all that kind of stuff.

00:22:41.000 I can't get into, you know, drugs, frankly, but, and I'm not suggesting that this is about drugs, but this is an interesting bit of appropriation of indigenous culture and proper just like they don't care about it what i think is they don't really care about this stuff and we're not in like central or latin america they're in switzerland i mean what is this thing that they're doing right here

00:23:08.000 You better wash your hands after that.

00:23:10.000 Covid could be everywhere.

00:23:11.000 You better wash your hands after that.

00:23:31.000 Covid could be everywhere.

00:23:32.000 Or disease X.

00:23:33.000 No more water, no more air.

00:23:37.000 Why should I?

00:23:39.000 Oof, oof. 1.00

00:23:41.000 Oof.

00:23:51.000 Thank you for that.

00:23:52.000 That was a lovely ceremony.

00:23:53.000 Now we're going to be taking your rainforest for Black Rock.

00:23:56.000 One of the stories that Whitney Webb will be describing to you is how Black Rock are creating a new category called Natural Assets, where literally everything on the planet, like a Bill Hicks joke, can be monetized.

00:24:06.000 Lakes, forests, fish, trees.

00:24:08.000 Vandana Shiva tells you about stuff like that when she's on the show.

00:24:11.000 is a literal Larry Fink, Black Rock geek to own everything. 0.93

00:24:16.000 Trees, well that tree, that should be monetizable.

00:24:18.000 That's creating oxygen. 0.84

00:24:19.000 We should be charging for that.

00:24:21.000 So like, they have someone come on and perform a shamanic ceremony,

00:24:25.000 which is sort of, you know, well why not?

00:24:27.000 Cool, let's revere the kind of cultures that are still thriving and are connected to nature

00:24:32.000 and sacredness and stuff.

00:24:34.000 Glorious, glorious.

00:24:35.000 But when they are actually a soft sell power grab for globalists that literally have a plan,

00:24:42.000 an explicit plan, Whitney Webb's talking about it in our interview, to monetize, in the words of Bill Hicks, 0.97

00:24:47.000 every god damn thing on this planet seems just a touch hypocritical. 0.94

00:24:52.000 Not to mention the fact that last year they're all saying everyone's got to put a mask on and breathe inside of it 0.99

00:24:56.000 and now they've got a ceremony where you literally blow down people's snout holes.

00:24:59.000 You need a jab. 0.73

00:25:09.000 You need a jab!

00:25:10.000 You know, you need a jab!

00:25:16.000 That's amazing, that's amazing.

00:25:18.000 Apparently the thing they're most scared of at Davos, the two individuals they fear most are Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

00:25:27.000 Figures that are outspoken, whether you are into those figures or not, that's up to you.

00:25:32.000 I'm into myself and establishment figures that believe in decentralization, respecting the sovereignty of the individual and respecting the rights of all communities for self-determination through democratic and representative Do we have any answer on what's on Donald Trump's... Donald Trump has... his hands are bleeding.

00:25:47.000 They don't like Donald Trump there.

00:25:48.000 And in fact the propaganda of the legacy media against Trump is reaching new proportions.

00:25:53.000 Now they're sort of worried that he's got red on his hands and trying to use that in

00:25:56.000 some weird way.

00:25:57.000 Check this.

00:25:58.000 Do we have any answer on what's on Donald Trump's, like Donald Trump has, his hands

00:26:04.000 are bleeding.

00:26:05.000 Looks like he's...

00:26:06.000 They pretend to be the rational grown-ups. 1.00

00:26:09.000 You know, that's when you see, like, Donald Trump is a hysterical lunatic. 1.00

00:26:13.000 He's not an adult. 1.00

00:26:14.000 He lies. 0.94

00:26:15.000 Plus, his hands are red.

00:26:17.000 He's got red stuff on his hands. 0.97

00:26:20.000 I mean, isn't it a bit sort of puerile and ridiculous? 0.91

00:26:24.000 And they're pretending to be the adults. 0.97

00:26:26.000 They're pretending to be the adults.

00:26:28.000 Is that Magic Marker?

00:26:30.000 Is it Magic Marker?

00:26:31.000 Is it Magic Marker?

00:26:32.000 What is that exactly?

00:26:34.000 It looks like he has a sore on his index finger there.

00:26:37.000 I don't know.

00:26:39.000 Maybe it's magic marker?

00:26:41.000 They've got nothing to offer.

00:26:42.000 They've got literally nothing to offer.

00:26:43.000 They've got no ideas.

00:26:45.000 They've got no values.

00:26:46.000 Oh man, it's over.

00:26:47.000 Hey, listen, put the countdown on.

00:26:49.000 We're going to leave YouTube right now because we have got some fantastic content for you.

00:26:54.000 Whitney Webb, who is way ahead of the curve on the Epstein stories with us, but that's just one of her greatest hits.

00:27:00.000 Whitney Webb is an educator. 0.99

00:27:02.000 She is what journalism should be.

00:27:04.000 The world should be built around information conveyed by brilliant journalists like Whitney Webb.

00:27:08.000 She's coming up on the show in a minute.

00:27:10.000 Plus, our analysis on some legacy media, state-funded propaganda on Disease X gon' give it to ya!

00:27:16.000 Disease X gon' give it to ya! 0.99

00:27:18.000 Join us over on Rumble.

00:27:19.000 There's a link in your description.

00:27:20.000 Come now!

00:27:21.000 Okay guys, if you're watching this on Rumble, if you're enjoying the chat, like Trinity0316 or ABBS or Oli Loving.

00:27:30.000 Yeah, give us a theory.

00:27:30.000 What are you lot saying?

00:27:31.000 Some people are saying Cheetos, breaking news, mark on finger.

00:27:35.000 Who cares?

00:27:36.000 Says somebody else.

00:27:37.000 Blue Man Group.

00:27:39.000 Aha, they finally caught him, like red-handed. 0.85

00:27:41.000 Nice, nice.

00:27:41.000 Very good.

00:27:42.000 We've got Whitney Webb coming up in a second.

00:27:44.000 You guys get involved in that chat.

00:27:47.000 Remember to put in, yeah, Webb, Webb, Webb, Webb, Webb, Webb, Webb.

00:27:50.000 Remember to put some, uh, grabbing too much.

00:27:52.000 Yeah, that's not bad, Bobby Mirror.

00:27:53.000 That's a good little joke.

00:27:55.000 A few of you are doing that.

00:27:56.000 That's not bad.

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00:28:40.000 Hey listen, so we're going to, before Whitney Webb, which is going to be pretty exciting, we've got a wonderful story for you where we just break down a piece of state media publicly funded propaganda on the subject of disease X. Now you'll be familiar that at the WEF they're talking about Disease X. The WHO are talking about Disease X. Of course they are, because they've just proposed a treaty that has to be signed up to by May, which will give the WHO the ability to take 5% of your nation's health budget and impose legislation including lockdowns and mandated vaccines.

00:29:15.000 Read it for yourself!

00:29:17.000 Read it for yourself.

00:29:19.000 And they need a disease to back that up. 0.97

00:29:21.000 One might contest.

00:29:22.000 So disease X is gone.

00:29:24.000 Give it to you.

00:29:24.000 Here's the BBC propaganda unit reporting on that very thing.

00:29:28.000 And straight after that, it's Whitney Webb with a class in how to handle elite establishment globalism.

00:29:37.000 She is a revealing and brilliant journalist.

00:29:39.000 You're going to love this conversation.

00:29:40.000 If you're not familiar with her, it's very, very exciting.

00:29:43.000 But before that, Disease X, it's gone give it to you.

00:29:47.000 Here's the news.

00:29:48.000 No, here's the F in news.

00:29:49.000 Thank you for choosing Fox News.

00:29:51.000 Good news.

00:29:52.000 No, here's the F in news.

00:29:54.000 Disease X may be on its way, but we've got great news.

00:29:58.000 Porton Down, a secret facility that works on bioweapons, has got a solution on its way.

00:30:03.000 Hopefully they don't leave any windows open, especially not those biochemical weapons in there. 0.52

00:30:10.000 What's the future gonna look like when a state broadcaster just casually tells you that at Porton Down they're working on new vaccines for disease X?

00:30:18.000 They also make chemical weapons there.

00:30:20.000 Have we learned nothing about mRNA technology?

00:30:22.000 The risks of clinical trials in these areas?

00:30:24.000 The problems of dual research?

00:30:26.000 And indeed, is it even appropriate that chemical warfare and vaccines are somehow alloyed?

00:30:31.000 Is there a reason for this?

00:30:32.000 What's going on?

00:30:33.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments.

00:30:34.000 Let's have a look at how the legacy media propaganda machine is supporting on this subject and telling you there's nothing to worry about and everything to be grateful for.

00:30:42.000 Luckily, you're funding it!

00:30:43.000 The British government has unveiled a new vaccine research facility where scientists are working to prevent future pandemics.

00:30:49.000 That is potentially exactly how the last pandemic started.

00:30:53.000 Scientists are working on a solution to future pandemics.

00:30:57.000 That's what they were doing at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:31:00.000 There hasn't been a proper debate about whether or not that's what we want.

00:31:04.000 Do you want it?

00:31:05.000 Do you want gain-of-function research?

00:31:06.000 Do you want humanised mice tested on?

00:31:08.000 Do you want new potential lab leaks?

00:31:10.000 Shouldn't we wait to the end of the COVID inquiry to see how this problem began, whether the response was appropriate, how effective the medicines were?

00:31:18.000 Are you not concerned that the COVID inquiry has been indefinitely delayed, even though it's cost £145 million already?

00:31:25.000 Are you not concerned that these inquiries are not being correctly undertaken and this sort of research is still happening?

00:31:31.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:31:32.000 It's located at Porton Down, a high-security research facility best known for its work on chemical warfare.

00:31:37.000 We're best known for our work on chemical warfare, but don't you dare try and tie us down.

00:31:41.000 We're also making crazy new vaccines for diseases that haven't happened yet.

00:31:45.000 Experts are preparing for what is known as Disease X, or the next pandemic virus.

00:31:51.000 Our health correspondent, Domina Cuse, was given rare access to the facility.

00:31:55.000 I hope nobody coughed on him.

00:31:56.000 Probably he was keeping his social distance.

00:31:58.000 Although actually that was arbitrary as well, wasn't it?

00:32:00.000 The delicate task of protecting the nation's health.

00:32:05.000 This is one of the laboratories at Porton Down where scientists are analysing current threats, new variants of Covid for example, and trying to identify new ones.

00:32:16.000 We've been built for a purpose.

00:32:19.000 We don't just fling these things up.

00:32:20.000 Have you ever looked into the measures of safety that are deployed?

00:32:24.000 That there's BSL 2 and BSL 3 and BSL 4.

00:32:27.000 And sometimes in BSL 3, that's the penultimate level of safety, there are frequent lab leaks.

00:32:32.000 Do you not think that given the potential origin of the last pandemic, it's possible that this type of research should be regulated a lot more stringently, that it should be extracted entirely from the possibility of profit, particularly if it's at any point publicly funded?

00:32:46.000 Do you think it's a possible problem that it's somehow become allied and connected to chemical warfare? 0.97

00:32:52.000 All of these things present you with a bunch of questions and do you think that you should be involved in that conversation or are you just too stupid and potentially misinformation might baffle you? 0.99

00:33:01.000 Where is misinformation coming from? 0.99

00:33:03.000 Is it from independent media or state-funded media?

00:33:05.000 More than 200 scientists working for the UK Health Security Agency are helping to develop and test vaccines against a range of diseases.

00:33:15.000 It's vital work to keep us all safe.

00:33:17.000 Yes, that's right.

00:33:18.000 Now, isn't it extraordinary that underneath us now is a warning?

00:33:22.000 COVID-19.

00:33:23.000 And potentially, when you watch this video, a pop-up.

00:33:25.000 Be careful, there's misinformation in this video.

00:33:27.000 Whereas on the BBC that you pay for, a journalist can just soberly say, they're doing this to keep us safe.

00:33:33.000 Don't you think it should be mandatory at that point to say, although the COVID-19 pandemic could have begun in a laboratory, in fact that seems the most likely point of origin for this virus, how can they possibly claim to be the protectors of pure information when conveying propaganda continually?

00:33:48.000 And of course, I know how we're reported on and how we're talked about.

00:33:51.000 I don't think that science is, like, ridiculous or absurd or oughtn't be undertaken. 0.98

00:33:51.000 We're not morons. 0.98

00:33:55.000 I'm saying that science, when connected to a profit motive, when regulations continually support the interests of the powerful, we, the public, ought be continually inquiring.

00:34:03.000 I think that these people are probably fantastic and brilliant and capable of doing wonderful work, but humanised mice being infected with MERS, which is currently happening, I believe, in China, is the The kind of research that oughtn't be undertaken.

00:34:14.000 You want absolute transparency, absolute clarity of communication, and if you're funding it, you want to know about it.

00:34:19.000 And if it's connected to weaponry, I think it's already becoming quite suspicious.

00:34:22.000 That's just what I think.

00:34:23.000 Let me know what you think.

00:34:24.000 We've got in many respects the toughest job in the world, which is to protect health against infectious diseases and environmental hazards.

00:34:31.000 And it is tough because we know that the risks of new and emerging infections, including those of pandemic potential, is increasing.

00:34:39.000 How do you know that?

00:34:40.000 For decades, scientists at Porton Down have been involved in medical research, as well as the work on chemical and biological warfare, for which the centre is perhaps better known.

00:34:51.000 That's not so philanthropic!

00:34:52.000 Look at this room!

00:34:53.000 These female scientists doing great work to protect us all together. 1.00

00:34:58.000 They're doing vital work to protect us.

00:34:59.000 They do this other thing where, you know, the most devastating and awful thing is imaginable.

00:35:04.000 Children being napalmed and bombed and diseased and consequences for generations.

00:35:08.000 They do that as well.

00:35:09.000 So they're not just heroes then, are they?

00:35:11.000 Admittedly, they're involved in the development of tools that could be utilised, or in the wrong hands, or if terrorists were to get hold of those weapons.

00:35:18.000 What about governments having those weapons?

00:35:20.000 What about wars being waged across the world in your name using those weapons?

00:35:24.000 You happy about the Ukraine-Russia war?

00:35:25.000 You happy about what's going on in Gaza?

00:35:27.000 You happy about what's going on in Yemen?

00:35:29.000 You're funding it!

00:35:30.000 During the pandemic, laboratories like this one played an absolutely vital role in assessing how effective the vaccines were in combating the coronavirus.

00:35:38.000 Okay, well luckily the COVID inquiry has been curtailed because it seems that there's still some room for debate about how effective those those medications were, what the adverse events were, the

00:35:47.000 cause of myocarditis, the sudden increase in cancers previously thought to be quite novel.

00:35:53.000 So whatever research they were doing into the efficacy and safety of vaccines, we might want to

00:35:58.000 go back and do a few more trials.

00:35:59.000 But as well as monitoring how effective existing vaccines are against new COVID variants,

00:36:05.000 the new Vaccine Development and Evaluation Centre is looking at emerging threats for

00:36:09.000 which no vaccine yet exists. Any minute now though.

00:36:13.000 Just give Albert Baller a little bit of advance notice.

00:36:16.000 I'm from the UK.

00:36:16.000 You may not know how the BBC is regarded.

00:36:19.000 They were a treasured institution, the arbiter of truth, a connection to ordinary people, one of the great gifts of the immediate post-war era that celebrated and demonstrated the togetherness of a nation.

00:36:32.000 I have to say now that the BBC has become a conveyor and purveyor of propaganda.

00:36:37.000 It's heartbreaking to say that.

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00:38:28.000 All right, come on.

00:38:28.000 Get it for yourself.

00:38:29.000 Let's get back to bringing down the globalist elites.

00:38:32.000 Changes to climate and the way we live.

00:38:34.000 They can't choose which bit of propaganda to convey.

00:38:36.000 Climate change is causing this.

00:38:38.000 It's more likely to be climate change than a lab leak that causes us to lock you in your homes next time, but we'll never know because the COVID inquiry is not happening till summer of 2026.

00:38:47.000 God knows how hot it'll be by then because of you and your recycling! 0.62

00:38:50.000 I mean, viruses like this one could find a way to the UK.

00:38:55.000 Why are you not saying that there might have been a lab leak at the Wuhan Institute of Virology?

00:39:00.000 Why are you not saying that indeed this type of research itself could be the problem?

00:39:05.000 Do you understand the extent of the research that's being done?

00:39:08.000 Do you understand how possible, likely, plausible and common lab leaks are?

00:39:14.000 Any idea how much it appears that establishment interests benefit from pandemics?

00:39:18.000 I am not suggesting for a second that the entire thing was a dastardly plan.

00:39:23.000 I will however point out that the institutions that benefited most from the pandemic are the state, globalist interests, big pharma, ability to regulate, ability to profit, ability to surveil, ability to censor, all increasing during that period.

00:39:36.000 This version of reality, we're just beavering away here with these little mites that are being caused because you have not done the recycling, It's your fault and we're stepping in to help you.

00:39:45.000 The entire characterisation of the relationship is bogus.

00:39:48.000 The relationship between the state.

00:39:50.000 And what that threat is.

00:39:51.000 We talked to Bill Gates.

00:39:52.000 So that is the challenge which I think you heard our Chief Scientific Officer, Professor Isabel Oliver, describe.

00:39:58.000 But there are a number of steps that we can take.

00:40:01.000 Look at the propaganda behind them.

00:40:02.000 We are impactful.

00:40:04.000 We are insightful.

00:40:06.000 We are telling you the truth.

00:40:08.000 We can be better prepared in terms of surveillance.

00:40:11.000 And inclusive.

00:40:12.000 Oh my god!

00:40:13.000 This is about a potential pandemic.

00:40:15.000 You know we're on the very precipice of signing a treaty with the WHO that will mean that they will demand 5% of the health budget of every member country and will be able to impose legislation on every member nation without any kind of consultation, referenda or opining from you as an individual.

00:40:30.000 Your freedom is being limited by this kind of propagandist measure, this kind of

00:40:35.000 perspective. And the people have got warnings under them are us. Look at the warning right

00:40:39.000 now. Oh, careful, COVID misinformation.

00:40:41.000 Look at this. Already, even in a story that's about future pandemics that they're getting

00:40:44.000 the solution for by doing more research that possibly caused the thing in the first place

00:40:48.000 in a chemical weapons factory, they're telling us that they're impactful, insightful and inclusive.

00:40:52.000 We include all of the government messaging in one healthy little package.

00:40:56.000 So we're doing that work separately.

00:40:59.000 But what we do in the UK...

00:41:00.000 Don't get bogged down in the fact that in this lab they're doing chemical warfare.

00:41:03.000 from the Ministry of Defence.

00:41:05.000 Although we do collaborate a little bit.

00:41:07.000 Facilities for chemical warfare.

00:41:09.000 Don't get bogged down in the fact that in this lab they're doing chemical warfare.

00:41:13.000 We're all just a team of scientists working together to ensure you're free.

00:41:17.000 Get ourselves ready both to isolate new pathogens, to develop assays so that we can test them accurately,

00:41:25.000 and to work with other partners, with academics and with pharmaceutical companies.

00:41:31.000 Right, they're your partners.

00:41:34.000 OK, so do you think that in the event that there was another pandemic and there was a vaccine, even though we are funding the research, they might potentially profit from it?

00:41:42.000 Is that why 10-year deals were done with Moderna?

00:41:45.000 Is that why Pfizer made sure that there was a 75-year period before we could gain access to some of the clinical trial data?

00:41:52.000 Well, this all seems incredibly transparent.

00:41:54.000 You better delay that COVID inquiry because you don't want people thinking too hard because they might think they're way out of obedience.

00:42:00.000 What would you say is the most important lesson that was learned from the pandemic?

00:42:03.000 People will do whatever you tell them to if you terrify them enough.

00:42:07.000 So I think I was going to say partnership was the immediate work that comes to mind.

00:42:11.000 Partnership!

00:42:12.000 What with the private sector and corporations and pharmaceutical companies.

00:42:16.000 Listen, I'm not saying anything about that individual or any of those scientists.

00:42:19.000 All individuals, I believe, are sacred.

00:42:21.000 I'm sure all of us are doing the best we can with what we've got.

00:42:25.000 But this kind of Systemic corruption?

00:42:27.000 This kind of propaganda?

00:42:28.000 Weapons manufacturers partnering with big pharma in order to create preemptive vaccines after we've just had a pandemic possibly caused by research into preemptive vaccines?

00:42:39.000 Seems like the sort of area where if you actually lived in a democracy people might get a little referendum, a little consultation, a little conversation rather than a puff piece telling you that this is good for everything from equality to the climate to recycling without any legitimate questions being asked.

00:42:54.000 This is the news.

00:42:55.000 Don't you think that a question that you might like to hear answered is, look, some people are concerned that actually this pandemic was caused by research of this nature.

00:43:03.000 Can you allay the fears of our viewers by telling us that this is extremely safe and assure us that the biggest risk to our future is emergent natural origin viruses rather than these kind of Frankenstein gain-of-function terrifying for-profit endeavours that potentially caused the last one?

00:43:17.000 And it is that continuing work which we are planning to continue going forward so that we are ready working together as soon as a pathogen appears and actually obviously beforehand so we're prepping as fast as we can.

00:43:30.000 There is that target of being able to deploy hopefully a vaccine within 100 days of the threat being identified.

00:43:37.000 Why are we normalising the next pandemic?

00:43:40.000 Why is that happening?

00:43:40.000 Why is that on the news?

00:43:42.000 Get ready, disease X, it's happening, it's inevitable, it's unavoidable, we have treatment in 100 days.

00:43:46.000 We should still be dealing with the reckoning of the last catastrophic response to a pandemic.

00:43:52.000 Were the social measures effective?

00:43:53.000 Were the medicinal measures effective?

00:43:55.000 What were the consequences of it?

00:43:56.000 There's gonna be a worse one, get ready, get primed.

00:43:59.000 Do you think that it's simply the function of the media to prime you and prepare you to be continually compliant?

00:44:04.000 Is the function of the culture to limit your horizons, limit your optimism, limit your freedom, whether it's at the level of entertainment, certainly at the level of propagandist news institutions like the one we're just witnessing, To prevent you from going, hang on a minute, I've got a lot of questions about the last pandemic, and who made money from it, and how it disrupted infrastructure, and how it destroyed individual lives, and how it's used to normalise the impediment of human freedom, before we go marching gleefully into the sequel like it's Iron Man 3.

00:44:30.000 How close are you to that particular target, to making that realistic?

00:44:34.000 So that is an ambition.

00:44:36.000 So to get from an identified pathogen to a vaccine and to therapeutics within 100 days.

00:44:43.000 I mean, to put it in context, that's about a third of the time that it took us to get a Covid vaccine.

00:44:51.000 You should have took your time a little bit.

00:44:52.000 Have a look at some of the people lit again against AstraZeneca.

00:44:55.000 Into people's arms.

00:44:57.000 And that was an outstanding record.

00:44:59.000 Usually, It takes about five to ten years for a new vaccine to come through.

00:45:03.000 Let's have a look at some of the results in five to ten years of your last success.

00:45:06.000 So it is a really challenging ambition and it won't work for all viruses and bacterias.

00:45:12.000 Indeed.

00:45:13.000 But I do think it is possible for many and the more we think about it in advance the more likely we are to achieve it and that's what the purpose So there you are.

00:45:25.000 Disease X is on its way, but fear not, because the chemical weapons industry are already preparing a solution and state media are already normalising that endeavour. 0.89

00:45:34.000 And the Covid inquiry has just been abandoned and booted off into the faraway future.

00:45:39.000 And the key word is partnership.

00:45:41.000 As long as we've got partnerships in big pharma, all of our futures are safe and secure together.

00:45:46.000 But that's just what I think.

00:45:47.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.

00:45:49.000 Well if that made you lose your faith in the system, get ready because Whitney Webb is our guest today.

00:46:02.000 Whitney Webb has become something of an expert on Jeffrey Epstein and his relationship with deep state agencies and but she as you are about to discover if you're not familiar with her work is a lot more than that and has a lot more to offer.

00:46:17.000 In a sense, Whitney Webb is able to provide the cartilage between the types of theories and ideas that peripherally exist and the even darker reality of what's happening globally Right now.

00:46:32.000 So we talk about Epstein but what Epstein significantly represents when it comes to financial crime in addition to the more salacious stuff that we're familiar with and additionally we talk about the limitations of populist politicians and the false dichotomies that exist i.e.

00:46:48.000 we're often offered alternatives but they don't mount to alternatives at all and just how close we are To entering a dystopia.

00:46:57.000 In fact the conversation ends with basically learn how to garden.

00:47:01.000 But it's the way that we get there that's significant.

00:47:03.000 Whitney is of course a contributing editor at Unlimited Hangout and the author of the book One Nation Under Blackmail.

00:47:09.000 You can find her work at unlimitedhangout.com and support her at unlimitedhangout.com forward slash join.

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00:47:20.000 Whitney, hello and thank you for joining us.

00:47:22.000 You must be very popular this time of year.

00:47:25.000 Um I don't know exactly what you mean by that but yeah I have gotten a lot of interview requests because Epstein stuff has happened recently and so yeah I tend to get more interview requests when when things happen there.

00:47:37.000 Because yes yes I suppose if like uh if something happens in the world of botany or biology David Attenborough might get a call if something happens on Epstein Island it's to Whitney Webb That we turn to understand what's been going on, because I suppose it's one of those news stories that used to exist primarily as a peripheral and indeed conspiratorial subject.

00:48:05.000 This is, I suppose, one of the trends of the post-independent media world, is subjects

00:48:11.000 that were regarded as conspiracy theories, like, you know, there are islands where famous

00:48:18.000 and influential people go and have illicit and indeed illegal criminal sexual encounters

00:48:26.000 and they're being blackmailed as a result of it.

00:48:28.000 That, when I was, you know, 25, that was stuff that, oh, that's Alex Jones, that's David

00:48:33.000 Icke, that's not true, that's crazy. 1.00

00:48:37.000 Now it's just, it's the normal news.

00:48:40.000 So that must be, as nearly one of the primary independent journalists writing on this subject, and given that you're I would guess somewhat younger than I am, has this always been something that you've understood to be true or have you similarly gone through sort of gradients of shock and disbelief while covering this story and learning about it?

00:48:59.000 Yeah, so I think definitely prior to 2019 there were efforts to sort of obfuscate what was going on with Epstein because he's obviously been sort of known since 2007 and to sort of attempt to join it together with other ideas that make it sound crazy.

00:49:15.000 You know, I think that was one of the functionalities of a movement.

00:49:18.000 Uh, QAnon, for example, that took, you know, aspects of truth about stuff, you know, for example, Jeffrey Epstein was doing and then sort of adding things that are not true or, or, you know, unable to be ever corroborated in order for people to more easily dismiss it, you know, or just dismiss the aspects of it that are true.

00:49:37.000 And I think, you know, there's been efforts to try and manipulate, um, this scandal in particular.

00:49:42.000 Um, and also, you know, I think another major problem.

00:49:45.000 Within the world of Epstein reporting for the mainstream and also the independent media is a tendency to focus on the most salacious bits of the story, which sort of distract from other aspects of the criminality of someone like Jeffrey Epstein, who was not just a sex trafficker, but was involved in a lot of financial crimes, has a lot of very extensive ties to Wall Street giants like JP Morgan.

00:50:08.000 To some of the biggest names in Silicon Valley, for example, a lot of this doesn't get scrutinized properly because of the extreme focus on, you know, certain figures who have been known to have been Epstein associates for some time.

00:50:19.000 So people like Bill Clinton, accusations against people like Alan Dershowitz, for example, Prince Andrew, you know, these are the names that just get circulated over and over again.

00:50:28.000 And a lot of stuff that, you know, you know, has been known about Epstein for years, sort of

00:50:32.000 periodically gets rehashed, I guess, or, you know, slight details get added to it, but

00:50:37.000 it tends to overly focus on as much like salacious stuff as possible. I think in

00:50:43.000 order to attempt to control the narrative and sort of paint Epstein just as a sort of like

00:50:48.000 a sex trafficker and a sex blackmailer when he was actually involved in a lot of other

00:50:53.000 stuff and to keep the focus on particular names that are useful to the whole divide and

00:50:58.000 conquer attempts in the United States.

00:51:01.000 So having it be Clinton versus Trump and things like that.

00:51:04.000 I mean, I think we still see that all the time.

00:51:07.000 And some other important names in the case, like Thomas Pritzker, for example, who's not sort of a guy that's very behind the scenes, but very powerful in the US don't get talked about very often.

00:51:18.000 Yes, I suppose which individuals you focus on might be part of the bias.

00:51:25.000 The fact that the salaciousness and a bias towards thinking about those things, there's all sorts of psychological and indeed biological reasons why that might be the case.

00:51:36.000 I wonder sometimes, Whitney, because I don't know that much about it, but when I sometimes see very extensive reported lists of people that might have gone to that island, that Would it have been that it was like parties full of really really attractive women or is it who to some degree were not there voluntarily or is it actually like people were kidnapped people they were under age they were coerced there was involuntary sexual activity taking place is there a whole range because when you're sort of seeing people that seem like pretty

00:52:07.000 I don't know, from the outside, vanilla celebrities.

00:52:09.000 Is it that what they would have experienced is... In fact, isn't there a famous piece of public content with someone talking about it and just going, I went to this island and it was amazing and there were all these parties and there was attractive women there and it didn't... at least it appears from that person's perspective, like, I was participating in this criminal, pedophilic evil, you know, like, is it so, like, what's actually happening when the people go there?

00:52:34.000 Um, yeah, so as far as I understand it, the girls that were there, it was a mix of girls that were sort of there voluntarily because they'd been promised certain things by Epstein and Maxwell, like help with a modeling career, for example, or promised, you know, help with paying for university, things of that nature.

00:52:52.000 And then some women who were there more or less involuntarily, like their passports had been seized by Maxwell, for example.

00:53:00.000 You know, there's examples of that where, like, they were forced into a much more exploitative relationship.

00:53:05.000 In my opinion, you know, it's both really exploitative because you're, you know, promising something that you're most likely not going to deliver on to these girls in order to get them to do stuff.

00:53:15.000 Or you're, you know, seizing their passport and, you know, going that much farther.

00:53:19.000 So there was different, you know, degrees of exploitative behavior.

00:53:23.000 To get these girls there, which I'm sure manifested in different, you know, behavior. 1.00

00:53:27.000 But I think the idea that Epstein wanted to project at these parties was sort of a, you know, an ambiance to have, you know, people he was targeting for the purpose of sexual blackmail.

00:53:37.000 Obviously, you want those targets to be at ease so that they're more likely to engage in the type of behavior you want to catch them in.

00:53:45.000 So I'm sure there was an effort to make it seem like a billionaire playboy Uh, you know, type of environment, but ultimately the girls that were there, uh, were there because of these, you know, uh, exploitative mechanisms, um, of various types that Maxwell and Epstein used on their targets. 1.00

00:54:01.000 Exploited to varying degrees.

00:54:04.000 Although it is possible to imagine that some people there were just like, oh, I'm at this fancy party is what I'm there at.

00:54:11.000 But it's difficult to imagine that.

00:54:13.000 But it seems like some people that were continually there.

00:54:15.000 And also, I suppose what you say is there are some things that are difficult to prove or corroborate, but it's difficult to know how exploitative, how criminal You know, even though any exploitation is obviously wrong, it's difficult to know how dark it could have got.

00:54:31.000 And also I suppose, but like you, I'm more interested, even though I'm interested in that stuff because I'm a human being, I'm interested in where it intersects with power, where it intersects with deep state agencies, and where it's being used to, in a sense, orchestrate powerful people and significant events and it does appear that what Jeffrey Epstein is is a sort of a visible facet of systemic corruption that's financial as well as sexual and international and elitist.

00:54:59.000 Absolutely.

00:55:01.000 Yeah and that's I suppose what is being revealed and that's the information that's sort of being managed.

00:55:08.000 Yeah, I definitely think so.

00:55:10.000 There's definitely efforts to keep certain names out of the press.

00:55:13.000 So, for example, the JP Morgan case with Epstein that was, you know, eventually settled, so it didn't end up going to court.

00:55:20.000 Some of the names that were subpoenaed were the two co-founders of Google, and one of the cool co-founders of Google, Larry Page, completely disappeared and was never served that subpoena.

00:55:28.000 He was basically hiding from that.

00:55:31.000 That's very significant, especially when you consider that You know, Google was essentially created with CIA assistance and money and has collaborated, you know, relatively closely with the NSA and also like the military in the years since.

00:55:47.000 And these guys had some sort of shady dealings, apparently, at least the USVI felt so, but with Epstein and JP Morgan.

00:55:55.000 And of course, the head of JP Morgan, Jamie Dimon, has a lot of connections to sort of the Wexner, the Leslie Wexner circle in Ohio.

00:56:03.000 Of course, Epstein being a key, you know, part of Wexner's network with, you know, Wexner's one of his most well-known benefactors.

00:56:11.000 And of course, Leslie Wexner is a person that, despite the insane amount of connections and, you know, financing he gave Epstein, properties, Complete control over his assets, essentially.

00:56:23.000 He hasn't been the target of any lawsuits, really, or scrutinized very much by the mainstream press, and it's because he's an extremely powerful individual, worth several billion dollars still.

00:56:35.000 So I suppose it seems like when you mention powerful institutions that have curious origins, notably Google founders and the way that Google was founded, I suppose it seems like the way that this story is being covered is to kind of keep you, to keep it buoyant at the level of Oh Bill Clinton he was president like 30 years ago that's pretty crazy but the story could be this shows you the intersection of all kinds of forms of power and in a sense what the limitations are of the sphere of reality that most of us operate in and do you feel that that's something that's increasingly happening?

00:57:17.000 I mean I know this isn't actually your particular area of expertise I'm in a way a bit foolish to but you've got so many you've reported on so many things but I just get a sense now, Whitney, while we're reporting on Davos, for example, and you can see figures from the WHO talking about disease X, and you can hear Bill Gates, another, you know, purported client and friend of Epstein's, of course, talking about more vaccines and more vaccines.

00:57:40.000 Meanwhile, there are a lot of Conversations now about excess deaths.

00:57:45.000 There's a recent report that suggests there's been an increase of 8% in child death in this country and possibly beyond that.

00:57:53.000 And I'm wondering how you feel as an independent journalist that operates in all these spaces, that 2024, for all of the kind of fear and trepidation that there is this year, there's an election in the United States, an election in the United Kingdom, is also like a sense of An avalanche of information about even the pandemic period, added to which, you know, the sort of Epstein story and ancillary stories that one might ponder as a result of it, the nature of power and the intersection between those different types of power.

00:58:23.000 Do you feel like it might be a point where it's difficult to maintain a cohesive, homogenized version of this is what reality is when you have so much inquiry, so much revelation, so many counter narratives?

00:58:40.000 Yeah, so I think what you're talking about is one of the main reasons why there's an increased push towards censorship from, you know, the US, the UK and the EU, major efforts to regulate the Internet in general and also AI.

00:58:54.000 And there's also.

00:58:57.000 You know, essentially, the blueprint for how to do this was written and I believe 2021 by Henry Kissinger and Eric Schmidt, the former Google CEO, basically talking about that we need to move to an internet model, essentially, where most information people are consuming for, you know, to form their political opinions is produced by generative AI.

00:59:17.000 And that also we put AI in charge of censoring the narratives that we shouldn't have sorted.

00:59:22.000 So I mean, they definitely Are looking to move towards unprecedented models of narrative control, and it's precisely because, you know, independent media has had a lot of successes, but I think at the same time, there's a lot of efforts to sort of muddy the waters with independent media to try and blunt its impact that it's been having, you know, not just the censorship drive, but I think, you know, going forward, especially as we get closer to the elections, every

00:59:49.000 Particularly in the UK and the US, I think there's going to be a lot more efforts to censor the ability of counter narratives to, you know, get out there and reach people.

00:59:58.000 And you have a lot of these efforts in the UK, right, with the online safety bill, for example, and some of these other, you know, legislative initiatives that are trying to You know, again, regulate the Internet, essentially, and where this is going long term is about having some sort of government issued I. D. Tied to everything you do online through your Internet service provider in the U. S. They call it the driver.

01:00:22.000 They tried to do it in the Obama administration.

01:00:24.000 It was called the driver's license for the Internet.

01:00:26.000 But now in the.

01:00:27.000 More modern era, the goal is to have the digital ID that's being implemented in various countries around the world, have that be tied to what you're doing online, so they know not just what you're posting, but what you're reading and consuming, so that they can more effectively manage that with the artificial intelligence algorithms they want to put in charge, essentially, of managing all content online.

01:00:48.000 Race against time, when you describe it like that.

01:00:51.000 That there are these emergent technologies that can be used by censorship.

01:00:54.000 I'm astonished to hear the name Henry Kissinger mentioned in association with something so avant-garde.

01:01:03.000 And that while that's happening, that like most of us or many of us have access to and to a degree the ability to corroborate Information that seems more and more likely to make you disobedient and deeply cynical about the state and the establishment, if I could just use a simple term, than ever before.

01:01:30.000 I saw a speech recently by Barack Obama, I think he was at Stanford University in fact, and he was saying that, you know, we need more control.

01:01:37.000 So something like a version, but of course an advocate version, Where he convivially conveyed the importance of being able to censor and control misinformation precisely because it muddies the water.

01:01:52.000 But I was struck when I was watching this significant figure of the establishment, this elder statesman of the establishment saying that independent media muddies the water, that that is precisely what The establishment indeed has to do to create enough doubt, enough uncertainty for us to sort of broadly be compliant, to broadly say, well, I will restrict my democratic choice to one of these two broadly similar parties.

01:02:21.000 And I suppose a significant outlier does come in the form of Donald Trump, he does seem to be the kind of an anti-establishment

01:02:31.000 avatar in so much as whatever you think of him or his policies, it's pretty

01:02:35.000 plain the establishment are infuriated by him, unless there's more layers to this than I can

01:02:40.000 imagine.

01:02:41.000 And it's interesting that the more he's indicted, the more he's in court, the more popular he

01:02:48.000 It seems that that would be an outlier.

01:02:51.000 And indeed, we've seen sort of like populist movements across Europe, and many of them do appear to have a sort of an ethno-national component.

01:02:58.000 or a nationalist component or a patriotic component. I don't know really where I land anymore. I've

01:03:02.000 sort of had to go on such a wild and carooming journey. But what broadly seems to be in place

01:03:07.000 is anti-globalism, anti-politics, anti-establishment. And if forces emerge that are able to harness and

01:03:13.000 direct that, it is going to be very difficult, I would think, to maintain control without

01:03:18.000 constant crisis and new measures for asserting that control, likely technological, likely around

01:03:25.000 And I wonder how you feel what will happen as populism and anti-establishmentism continues to rise and top technology and authoritarianism simultaneously arise.

01:03:36.000 What do you predict will be things we'll see in the news cycle or indeed what things you're aware of because you're reporting on them already?

01:03:41.000 They're going to define this space, this fissure, this line for the next year or so.

01:03:47.000 Yeah, so unfortunately, I think a lot of some of these more anti-establishment politicians that are being put out in front of us are not really, they're more of a controlled anti-establishment than anything that's organically anti-establishment.

01:04:00.000 And I think sort of, you know, in Trump's case, the political persecution of Trump sort of reinforces his anti-establishment credentials among his base.

01:04:09.000 And it's important to keep in mind that a lot of that credibility, that anti-establishment credibility he The reason he had lost that with his base is because of things like his continued assertion that Operation Warp Speed was a good thing and how he was responsible for that and the vaccine and a lot of other things that he did when he was in office that were very against his campaign rhetoric.

01:04:36.000 And what I think people, frankly, should do is pay a lot more attention to a politician's actions, particularly when they're in power, than just their campaign rhetoric, because oftentimes there's a big gap there.

01:04:49.000 So like in the case of Trump, for example, you know, when he was in office, he put people like John Bolton in charge, you know, as a national security advisor, who's a notorious war hawk, even though previously he had campaigned on being anti-war and against the neocons and the Iraq war and all of that.

01:05:05.000 But John Bolton is one of the most notorious neocons of all.

01:05:09.000 Um, and, uh, you know, other things, uh, happened during his term that are not good at all from an individual liberty standpoint.

01:05:17.000 For example, his attorney general, William Barr, legalized pre-crime in the United States, which is the exact, uh, some of, uh, that, that exact program really has been used to go after people that were present on January 6th, but didn't necessarily engage in anything that can traditionally be deemed illegal.

01:05:33.000 Um, you know, that framework was produced during the Trump administration.

01:05:36.000 Wow.

01:05:37.000 And I think for a long time, Americans and also elsewhere have sort of been pushed into choosing between the lesser of two evils and things like that, but ultimately that doesn't lead to good.

01:05:48.000 You're just getting, you know, one that's slightly better maybe than the other guy, but a lot of that, you know, these differences at the end of the day, Um, are about political rhetoric more than actual action when these people are in office.

01:06:00.000 And, um, there's definitely been, you know, an effort, um, to oscillate between left and right.

01:06:06.000 And, uh, you know, for decades to keep sort of, you know, the left, right paradigm going, which, which is one of the main ways that sort of these more global agendas, um, are able to advance.

01:06:16.000 Um, and people get frustrated with one and then switch to the other.

01:06:18.000 So, you know, there's a, an effort right now to frame.

01:06:22.000 Sort of these right-leaning figures as anti-establishment, not just with Trump, but people in Argentina, like Javier Mele, for example, or Bolsonaro in Brazil, for example, right?

01:06:32.000 A lot was said about Javier Mele's, you know, rise to power, that he was anti-establishment and all of this, and that he was going to depose the political elite in Argentina, and had a lot of campaign rhetoric similar to Trump.

01:06:46.000 But when Javier Mele came into power, he put a lot of career Wall Street people from JP Morgan, from Deutsche Bank, the Epstein banks, essentially, in charge of key parts of the economy.

01:06:56.000 He's not going to shut down the central bank.

01:06:58.000 He's not actually going to dollarize, which he campaigned on, and, you know, several other things there.

01:07:03.000 And at his recent WEF address, he was essentially framing the solution to the world's problems, more or less, as moving it away from government controlling things to corporations controlling things.

01:07:16.000 And, you know, essentially what we have as seen through groups like the World Economic Forum is that ultimately it's all about public-private partnership, and the governments and the corporations essentially are controlled by the, you know, it's really the same group at the end of the day.

01:07:30.000 I mean, if you think about the U.S., for example, the government, the politicians are owned by corporate America, so hand over More direct power to the private sector, the most powerful multinational corporations, or hand it to the government.

01:07:42.000 It's really the same people ultimately making decisions, and it's the decisions that benefit the 1%, not regular people.

01:07:50.000 And so my concern is that people are going to, again, focus rather myopically on the campaign rhetoric and not on the actions of people when they've been in power.

01:07:59.000 And, you know, hold them to account and instead, you know, sort of get in this space where people become sort of apologists for these politicians at times when they start doing things that go against their campaign rhetoric and promises, probably because they don't want to be wrong or don't want to admit that maybe they've been had or something like that.

01:08:18.000 But I think it's definitely, you know, groups like the World Economic Forum and these other entities have supporters both on the left and the right.

01:08:26.000 And I think there's a renewed effort to sort of reframe the current opposition in the U.S.

01:08:33.000 and also the U.K.

01:08:33.000 really anywhere as being more like against unpopular initiatives.

01:08:36.000 So in the U.S., for example, you know, you have Trump speaking out against CBDCs, people like Ron DeSantis as well.

01:08:42.000 But I've done some recent reports recently that the plan in the U.S.

01:08:45.000 was never to have A direct-issued CBDC, the model instead is to have a synthetic CBDC, which is a U.S.

01:08:52.000 dollar-denominated stablecoin that may not be a CBDC in name, but is just as available and programmable as a CBDC is, or can be.

01:09:01.000 So the same dangers of a CBDC would be true for a, you know, a synthetic CBDC, which is basically, you know, A CBDC instead of being issued by the Federal Reserve or the Central Bank would be issued by Wall Street.

01:09:14.000 Is that really that much better?

01:09:16.000 Having Wall Street and Jamie Dimon and Bank of America program and surveil your money than it would be than having Jerome Powell, head of the Fed right now, do it?

01:09:24.000 I mean, not really, but this is The kind of, you know, bait and switch that I'm talking about here.

01:09:30.000 So you have Ron DeSantis and Trump say, you know, no to a CBDC.

01:09:35.000 But, you know, for example, Trump and Jared Kushner, who played a very prominent role in his cabinet was, you know, privately promoting the idea of having this, you know, dollar denominated stable coin, why Trump was in office.

01:09:48.000 And there's been a lot of moves towards that on the part of the Fed, which in the US is owned by Wall Street.

01:09:53.000 So, You know, again, I think that this might be celebrated as some sort of win, you know, see no CBDCs in the US, it's a victory for freedom.

01:10:02.000 But if you're having, you know, the most corrupt people in the banking industry programming and surveilling your money, instead of the Federal Reserve, which is owned by Wall Street, anyway, in the US, it's not really a victory at all, but it's going to be framed as that.

01:10:15.000 Brilliant.

01:10:16.000 Thanks.

01:10:17.000 Although, you know, thanks for taking away all of the populist hope that I was beginning to indulge.

01:10:24.000 But it's pretty fascinating, Whitney.

01:10:27.000 I mean, and I'll hand right over to you straight away.

01:10:30.000 But like, it seemed as you...

01:10:32.000 We've laid out a set of various false dichotomies that we are offered, whether it's between a kind of centralised globalism predicated on state power, or centralised globalism predicated on corporate power, but the WEF wants partnerships between those entities anyway.

01:10:51.000 And then you talked about with the currencies, oh, does it make any difference whether it's the Federal Reserve that's owned by Wall Street or Wall Street itself?

01:10:58.000 That's not what we were being offered.

01:11:00.000 And what does, and hello and welcome to all of our community members right now that are joining us live.

01:11:06.000 And I'll be passing on your questions to Whitney.

01:11:08.000 And indeed, if you're watching this on Rumble right now, remember you could watch this content live if you become a member of our community.

01:11:15.000 And this, I think, is an important question because I think the reason that the rhetoric of anti-establishmentism is becoming so successful is because that's precisely what people want.

01:11:24.000 Now, am I also correct, Whitney, because I'm assuming I'm correct about that bit, in assuming that what we're experiencing is now the availability and possibility, because of technology, because of decentral, you know, because of the different types of cryptocurrencies, for example, because of the immediacy and democratic potential of the type of technology that we now harness, The decentralization and the disempowerment of these various occupants of these paradigms that you've outlined, whether it's corporate global power, state global power, you could now actually have

01:12:00.000 You could have communities that are self-governing, maximum amount of individual sovereignty.

01:12:04.000 And I ask you all of this because for them to work as hard as they currently are to censor and control, to introduce measures such as you've already explained to us, artificial intelligence, censoring...

01:12:16.000 It must mean that the inverse is true and when you, you know, one by one break down these apparent anti-establishment populist figures and say that in a sense they do exist within the framing of the establishment and, you know, you give clear examples of appointments made by people that campaigned as populist but governed as somewhat centralist.

01:12:37.000 What does represent anti-establishmentism now?

01:12:41.000 What political figures or movements or ideas are there Yeah, so I think the whole purpose of these controlled anti-establishment figures is precisely so people look to them and don't actually do anything themselves, presuming that these politicians are going to save the day, sort of as political saviors.

01:13:07.000 What I think were the real hope for anti-establishmentism lies is with regular people building alternatives to the establishment.

01:13:17.000 So really the only way to get out of this mess with where the establishment, you know, global power is taking us really comes down to people building alternative systems and divesting from the establishment as much as possible so that we're not dependent on these systems they're trying to force us into.

01:13:35.000 And the only way to really do that is to build something at the local level and actually actively create something new.

01:13:41.000 And I think the powers that be are hoping that we will remain dependent on them and dependent on the political figures they provide for us instead of taking any sort of, you know, individual responsibility or accountability and, you know, community building ourselves because the government Um, the corporations, you know, we don't need them, they need us, and they are essentially creating systems, whether it's digital ID, CBDC, or equivalents, um, that are all about controlling the population at mass, and part of this is tied up with speech and all of that, and I, as I see it, really the only way is to

01:14:18.000 Uh, start doing something, you know, us little people, you know, actually creating something decentralized.

01:14:23.000 We're not depending on these people at all, depending on, you know, the new money they want us to use or the new ID system they want us to use, which is, you know, basically going to lead us to a.

01:14:34.000 A system where everything is surveilled and also where everything in the world is a financial product.

01:14:39.000 I mean, there's these efforts right now by Wall Street to turn parts of the natural world that have never been included in the economy to monetize them and securitize them through this model, this vehicle called Natural Asset Corporations.

01:14:51.000 Larry Flink of BlackRock was just talking about how they plan to tokenize everything.

01:14:57.000 Including like human relationships, you know, calling it social capital, human capital, all of this stuff.

01:15:06.000 Now there's natural capital.

01:15:07.000 I mean, they literally want to turn everything into a financial product that they can put on the blockchain and trade and surveil you at the same time, decide what you can and can't do.

01:15:18.000 It's completely insane. 0.97

01:15:20.000 The only way to not let that happen is to build something else so that you can say, no, I'm not going to participate in this crap authoritarian system. 0.98

01:15:28.000 I'm going to participate in this system instead. 0.91

01:15:31.000 And we have to build that.

01:15:32.000 And if we're reliant on people, whether it's Trump or Malay or any of these figures, no, people are not going to be building. 0.84

01:15:38.000 They're going to be waiting for these figures to build it.

01:15:40.000 And when these figures have been in power, they have not built those things.

01:15:44.000 Oh, God.

01:15:45.000 End dependency now.

01:15:47.000 End dependency now.

01:15:48.000 Wherever you are dependent on this system, you are owned by this system.

01:15:52.000 That slavery is being replaced by dependency.

01:15:56.000 And if we are dependent on devices or new forms of currency, or we cannot control our food, and increasingly the control of food seems to be an issue, and more and more vital resources, and there are attempts to control energy.

01:16:11.000 It seems like that And I became sort of a little befuddled when you said that human relationships and children's dreams and sunsets, autumn, are going to become, like, all being tokenized.

01:16:28.000 How could that even, how could that work?

01:16:31.000 I mean, I suppose it's only one step on from Monsanto patenting seeds and Bill Gates's magnificent work across Africa and in India.

01:16:39.000 In measures for controlling agriculture, what is this natural assets coup that BlackRock are up to?

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01:16:57.000 It's there.

01:16:58.000 It's fantastic.

01:16:59.000 It is worth it.

01:16:59.000 The reason we need your support is because of what Whitney Webb is describing.

01:17:03.000 There is a necessity to organize and create a movement, and we are dedicated to that.

01:17:09.000 We are participating in that with you.

01:17:11.000 We're not pledging to be Leaders are superior because what this requires is a new modality and a new mentality of decentralization and empowerment of the individual and you'll learn a lot more by jumping into what we talk about in the latter part of our conversation.

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Stay Free - Russel Brand - January 19, 2024

They’re HIDING THIS About Epstein! | Whitney Webb EXPLOSIVE Interview - Stay Free #288

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