Stay Free - Russel Brand - THEY’RE POISONING US | Big Pharma’s Shocking TRUTH - Stay Free 398

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00:04:35.000 brought to you by pfizer in this video you're going to see the future

00:04:47.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:04:55.000 Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:04:59.000 We've got a brilliant show, actually, because Callie Means is on.

00:05:01.000 If you don't know who Callie Means is, yeah, if you don't, do you know who he is?

00:05:04.000 Callie Means used to work at Coca-Cola, used to work at Big Food, now he exposes a lot of the corruption and hypocrisy within Big Food and how Big Food work in tandem with Big Pharma through donation and lobbying to create situations where legislation can't get through if it would mean that you'd eat better food, be healthier, not have to take medications that would ultimately be bad for you.

00:05:21.000 He's been brilliant on a Zen pic.

00:05:22.000 He was Really good on Big Pharma during the pandemic era and he's a very lucid and brilliant communicator.

00:05:28.000 I like him and you're gonna like him as well.

00:05:31.000 Hey, dear old Joe Biden, it was just one off night, wasn't it?

00:05:35.000 Just, yeah, calamine.

00:05:36.000 It's not catamine.

00:05:37.000 Not catamine.

00:05:38.000 Isn't that?

00:05:38.000 That's a herb.

00:05:39.000 It's not catamine the herb.

00:05:41.000 If you, uh, hey, join us on, um, on Locals if you want.

00:05:45.000 On Locals we do additional content.

00:05:47.000 For example, just today I did my five things I can't live without.

00:05:50.000 It was pretty good.

00:05:51.000 And one of the things I can't live without I concur with Justice Sotomayor's dissent today.

00:05:56.000 She hears what she said.

00:05:58.000 She said, in every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law.

00:06:03.000 With fear for our democracy, I dissent.

00:06:05.000 Sotomayor's dissent today. She hears what she said, she said, in every use of

00:06:10.000 official power the president is now a king above the law.

00:06:15.000 With fear for our democracy I dissent. End of quote.

00:06:20.000 I think sometimes why I feel so delirious and untethered is you can't have an objective opinion on say the Supreme

00:06:28.000 Court.

00:06:28.000 Like, the Supreme Court is good and just.

00:06:31.000 Or the Supreme Court is bad and unreliable.

00:06:34.000 The Supreme Court's function, purpose, and moral evaluation alters depending on who is utilising it on that particular day.

00:06:44.000 Teapothead says, I only tuned in for the tiny hat.

00:06:48.000 There will be a tiny hat at some point.

00:06:50.000 It's Callie Means, not Killie Memes.

00:06:53.000 Look, stop being confused about that.

00:06:54.000 Write it down.

00:06:54.000 Someone post in the Rumble chat, Callie Means his name, so that they know.

00:06:58.000 And write it in there.

00:06:59.000 And in fact, why don't you post on there his brilliant new book that he's got out, which is called Energy, isn't it?

00:07:03.000 What's it called?

00:07:04.000 Good Energy.

00:07:05.000 Yeah, post that in there.

00:07:07.000 Is Callie even here right now?

00:07:08.000 I can say hello to him before I do something dazzling on the day's news, and then we'll rejoin one another.

00:07:14.000 Are you there, Callie, my darling?

00:07:16.000 Right here, Russell.

00:07:16.000 Right here.

00:07:18.000 There's your book in the background, you pro, you look handsome, how are you?

00:07:21.000 Oh, so good.

00:07:22.000 So good.

00:07:23.000 I'm excited to get into it with you today.

00:07:26.000 Yeah, we're gonna have good fun together, you and I. Look, I think I'm the first person that started to use that background, you know, that sort of them sort of slats like that. 1.00

00:07:34.000 I would say that I am the first person, and I think that... I'm not saying... It's not Cali memes!

00:07:40.000 It's Cali means, like as in Cali means business.

00:07:43.000 Cali, can you... That's right.

00:07:44.000 Can you... I've obviously not done... Not ketamines!

00:07:46.000 Not ketamine!

00:07:48.000 Can you do... We will be talking about ketamine later, but...

00:07:51.000 Yes, we will.

00:07:53.000 We will be talking about it.

00:07:53.000 Not on YouTube, though.

00:07:54.000 Hey, Callie?

00:07:56.000 Oh, no, no.

00:07:57.000 We've got to get off YouTube for that.

00:07:59.000 You can't be freely talking about ketamine or MDMA as a potential alternative to SSRIs.

00:08:06.000 You can't talk about that on YouTube.

00:08:07.000 No, that's rumble only.

00:08:08.000 That's rumble only, that kind of stuff.

00:08:11.000 Not cauliflower!

00:08:13.000 You're infuriating me!

00:08:15.000 What's wrong with... We'll be talking about cauliflower too.

00:08:16.000 We're going to talk about healthy food.

00:08:18.000 I heard once from a yogi, I don't know if I can trust them, he said that food... Actually, thinking about it, I can't believe I'm bringing this up to an expert.

00:08:27.000 He said food does for you what it looks like.

00:08:30.000 So he said walnuts and cauliflower, they're good for your brain.

00:08:33.000 They look like a brain.

00:08:36.000 That's why I eat a lot of baby carrots, baby! 1.00

00:08:39.000 You know what I'm talking about, Callie!

00:08:40.000 You know what I'm talking about, Callie!

00:08:42.000 Callie, you'll be back.

00:08:44.000 We'll be talking about your book, Good Energy, and maybe we'll get to the bottom of this ketamine issue as well, if we can.

00:08:53.000 As well as MPIC.

00:08:54.000 I'll see you in a second, Callie.

00:08:54.000 I'm just going to do some interesting takes on the news.

00:08:57.000 Thank you for your patience.

00:08:59.000 Right, you want a take on the news?

00:09:01.000 Stop talking about my small hat.

00:09:03.000 I'm going to get on with it.

00:09:04.000 So thank you, guys.

00:09:04.000 Thank you very much.

00:09:05.000 If you can turn off the teleprompter now.

00:09:07.000 That's lovely.

00:09:08.000 Thank you so much for showing me an image of Callie, which was lovely while it lasted.

00:09:12.000 But now I must focus on some other stuff.

00:09:15.000 And also Callie's sink, if you don't mind that as well.

00:09:17.000 Thank you, guys.

00:09:17.000 Although I'm flattered that he laughed.

00:09:19.000 I mean, I think that's a...

00:09:21.000 Not carry beans, JK Jerome!

00:09:23.000 Not carry beans!

00:09:24.000 If you're watching this on YouTube, we'll be there for another 10 minutes.

00:09:28.000 Then, for the interview with Callie, where we'll talk about a Zempik, SSRIs, whether Trump or Biden will be better when it comes to the issue of food, nutrition, and health, and Big Pharma.

00:09:38.000 Remember Joe Biden?

00:09:38.000 We beat Big Pharma this year!

00:09:40.000 And all of that stuff.

00:09:41.000 We'll be talking about that, as well as a curious connection that Donald Trump has to childhood Uh, illness.

00:09:47.000 It's something that's, um, pretty fascinating that I didn't know about.

00:09:50.000 Now, I mentioned already to you the fact that I don't know how to... Body positivity is a good setup for, uh, a Zen pic.

00:09:59.000 All right, we'll get into that.

00:10:00.000 We'll get into body positivity.

00:10:01.000 That's one of our awakened wonders here on Locals.

00:10:03.000 I missed who it was that says it, but like, yeah, we'll follow up on that point.

00:10:07.000 We will follow up on that.

00:10:08.000 Not Cammy Screams! 1.00

00:10:10.000 Not Collard Greens! 0.97

00:10:11.000 I'll tell you what, I will not put up with this.

00:10:13.000 I will not put up with this.

00:10:14.000 Hey, one of the stories that we've got to cover is that, um, look at this.

00:10:18.000 This is hyperbole and it's, um, what do you want to say?

00:10:21.000 Hysteria, I suppose.

00:10:23.000 Given that the Supreme Court has said that Donald Trump, to a degree, has immunity, people are saying, pundits I suppose, well, well, we could use that immunity to do anything then!

00:10:35.000 And it just makes me wonder, this kind of untethered hysteria, what is the set of principles and morals that we're actually protecting?

00:10:43.000 I guess, you know, theoretically, President Biden, acting within the scope of his official duties, could dispatch the military to take out the conservative justices on the court, and he'd be immune.

00:10:58.000 Batch the military!

00:10:59.000 I mean, even as a point of conversation and reflection, that seems pretty outrageous, doesn't it?

00:11:06.000 Let me know!

00:11:07.000 Good expose to that guys, that and just the reaction.

00:11:09.000 Smash it out there! 0.60

00:11:10.000 Um, what about this?

00:11:11.000 Steve Bannon, he's gone down today and I would say...

00:11:15.000 That Bannon has been a good guest out there on this show.

00:11:18.000 And I like Steve Bannon.

00:11:19.000 I like Steve Bannon's two shirts.

00:11:21.000 I like his natural hair lift.

00:11:22.000 I like his go-get-em attitude.

00:11:24.000 I like that really what I feel Steve Bannon is about.

00:11:28.000 I don't know, man.

00:11:28.000 I feel like Steve Bannon is about...

00:11:31.000 A challenging establishment power.

00:11:33.000 Maybe you lot will say, no, no, no, Stephen, Steve Bannon is a product of establishment power.

00:11:38.000 Here he is giving a pretty good speech just as he makes his way off the prison.

00:11:43.000 And again, doesn't seem right.

00:11:45.000 Like he ignored a subpoena to testify in one of the hearings around January 6th.

00:11:45.000 What did he do?

00:11:49.000 And January the 6th is starting to feel increasingly like a meeting.

00:11:51.000 media concoction. Isn't it? Was it that bad? Was it that bad? Is it more of a

00:11:58.000 yeah a confection, a construct of the media being used to delegitimize the

00:12:03.000 Trump presidency? I mean many of the charges that he is currently facing pertain to his handling of that event

00:12:10.000 and they sort of often extract that Nancy Pelosi is on camera saying it was

00:12:13.000 my responsibility not to dispatch the National Guard. Do you see what I mean? Isn't it hard? Do you find it hard to

00:12:19.000 say right this is the moral center. I know that a lot of you

00:12:22.000 are full throttle maggot and like the full throttle maggot people 0.98

00:12:25.000 in a way I envy you because you've gone Trump. 0.96

00:12:29.000 I don't think there are any full-throttle Biden people anymore.

00:12:32.000 What we're watching actually is the media meltdown as such a position becomes impossible to maintain.

00:12:37.000 We're seeing the fissures and cracks as half of the media establishment says, oh my god, we can't back this guy anymore because the dementia is now evident.

00:12:45.000 And others say, yeah, but with dementia or without dementia, he's still better than Trump.

00:12:50.000 Now, let's have a look at our man Bannon on his way to bird.

00:12:54.000 Coast to coast and streaming worldwide, you're watching CBS News 24-7, where we know we are seeing history write itself in real time.

00:13:01.000 Think about it today.

00:13:02.000 History writing itself in real time.

00:13:04.000 Hello, I'm history.

00:13:06.000 I'm writing me.

00:13:07.000 I'm shot me to stop me.

00:13:09.000 That's weird.

00:13:09.000 That's just time passing.

00:13:10.000 That's just events being recorded.

00:13:12.000 History writing itself in real time.

00:13:14.000 That's an extraordinary piece of propagandist language.

00:13:18.000 While Donald Trump gets a ruling from the Supreme Court that he celebrates today, one of his men who helped get Trump to the White House is going to the big house.

00:13:26.000 We're talking, of course, about former Trump aide Steve Bannon.

00:13:29.000 He just reported to federal prison today in Connecticut.

00:13:32.000 Tonight, Steve Bannon behind bars.

00:13:35.000 Before starting his federal sentence, he played to the lively crowd gathered outside the correctional institution in Connecticut.

00:13:42.000 What group of pirates is out here today?

00:13:46.000 The longtime Trump ally and former chief strategist surrendered himself to authorities to serve a four-month sentence on contempt charges for defying a subpoena in the congressional investigation into the U.S.

00:13:58.000 Capitol attack.

00:14:00.000 I am proud to go to prison.

00:14:02.000 If this is what it takes to stand up to tyranny, if this is what it takes to stand up to the garland, corrupt, criminal DOJ, if this is what it takes to stand up to Nancy Pelosi, if this is what it takes to stand up He's actually laughing his way to Jan, isn't he?

00:14:18.000 And the very prospect of Nancy Pelosi's put a smile on his face.

00:14:23.000 One of the most enjoyable moments, if you ask me, of the post-debate meltdown has been watching Joe Scarborough try to reorganise reality as the backgammon board of his neurology has now been flipped.

00:14:40.000 And he's trying to assemble some kind of order in his own mind.

00:14:44.000 And even he and Micah cannot agree about what reality is anymore and the kind of

00:14:50.000 semiotic trope of the kind of man-wife hosts on TV together is starting to

00:14:57.000 include even that dynamic of a marital spat as Joe tries to sort of walk

00:15:02.000 the tightrope between saying that he still loves Joe Biden but he should

00:15:07.000 step aside, clutching his heart at one moment before Micah pursues that other

00:15:13.000 Democrat neoliberal establishment narrative of no matter what, no

00:15:18.000 matter what, there's keep Even if Joe Biden has to be pushed around in a wheelbarrow like C-3PO when he's being pulled apart, we've still got a vote.

00:15:27.000 Put him on Chewbacca's back!

00:15:29.000 and have him carried around in a rucksack and try to decipher Chewie's...

00:15:33.000 Maybe that would be a better debating style. Here they are, Morning Joe and Mrs Morning Joe,

00:15:40.000 grappling with a reality that can no longer be reliably held down.

00:15:46.000 If however you believe, as do I, and as do so many people who watch this program

00:15:57.000 and who fear Chewie...

00:16:05.000 Just how dark of a place a second Donald Trump term will take America.

00:16:13.000 Then I think it's critical that we ask the same questions about this man I love, respect, I suppose the framing is, it doesn't matter how demented, and I'm afraid I'm using that word literally, Joe Biden is, a second Trump term will be so dark, so awful.

00:16:33.000 He's already been president for four years.

00:16:35.000 I didn't think it was that bad.

00:16:36.000 I didn't really notice any difference, except the late-night talk shows were all unified in their condemnation of a sitting president in a way that they wouldn't consider being currently, for example.

00:16:46.000 What was so significantly different?

00:16:47.000 I know that the MAGA folk out there were saying, oh, it was bad.

00:16:49.000 There was more jobs, and there were manufacturing increases, and this was better, and you had a Better sort of feeling of patriotic priapism.

00:16:57.000 You felt a bit more boosted and stuff.

00:16:59.000 But what I'm trying to do is neutralise the partisanship and say we're talking about two presidents who have each been president for one term roughly four years each.

00:17:10.000 It's not like under one of them we all turned into orbs of pure consciousness and under the other sort of serpent creatures rained down from black clouds and we were all devoured by them. 0.99

00:17:22.000 It was More or less the fucking same! 0.94

00:17:26.000 And who's public service in saving this country from Donald Trump over the last three and a half years, I honor and always will. 0.98

00:17:38.000 I think we have to ask the same questions of him that we have asked of Donald Trump since 2016.

00:17:45.000 And that is, if he were CEO and he turned in a performance like that, She's not happy about where he's going, is she?

00:17:55.000 She's looking down.

00:17:56.000 She's looking down into cardigan land.

00:17:58.000 Oh, no, no.

00:17:58.000 He's being quite critical here.

00:18:00.000 Would any corporation in America, any Fortune 500 corporation in America, keep him on as CEO?

00:18:09.000 It was the worst debate performance in modern political history.

00:18:16.000 And the question, Mika, I know that has to be asked is, you believe... Yeah!

00:18:21.000 What is it?

00:18:23.000 I don't even... I'm not even going to pretend to like you anymore, Morning Joe.

00:18:26.000 You have too many fucking holidays for one thing! 0.99

00:18:30.000 Amy, but it was not the same. 0.99

00:18:31.000 No, I know a lot of you, you know, the no wars.

00:18:35.000 No wars was good.

00:18:36.000 I like no wars.

00:18:37.000 I liked no wars.

00:18:38.000 It may have just been because he had a cold last night because he wasn't feeling well.

00:18:43.000 There's so many opportunities that were missed last night that I don't think a cold is...

00:18:51.000 Like, this is me when I get a cold.

00:18:52.000 Oh, excuse me, I've got a bit of a cold.

00:18:54.000 I don't turn into a person who's barely able to operate my anatomy.

00:18:59.000 Dear old Joe Biden, it's completely clear and has been for a couple of years now, hasn't it?

00:19:03.000 Let's face it, that he's got some dementia, senility or dementia, and should be being carefully catered for, not just for his own well-being, but so that the people of America at large don't begin to think that their figures and public officials Our little more than marionettes placed at the front of the stage while true global corporate power continues its dark masquerade.

00:19:25.000 In order to prevent us realising that modern bipartisan democracy is a kind of sham, you should at this point see a hook emerge from the side of the stage, yank him off and then shove out dear old Kamala Harris, whipping up a word salad for everyone. 1.00

00:19:43.000 Just before we go to our fantastic guest, Callie Means.

00:19:46.000 I said Callie Means.

00:19:47.000 Write it down in the chat.

00:19:49.000 Write it down.

00:19:50.000 Callie Means.

00:19:51.000 He's an expert in big food, big pharma, and corruption.

00:19:54.000 Callie Means.

00:19:55.000 No, it's not spelled like that.

00:19:56.000 It's not Callie.

00:19:57.000 You're writing it down.

00:19:57.000 It's not a T at the end of it.

00:19:59.000 You lunatic. 0.97

00:20:00.000 It's not Calais like Chalet means. 1.00

00:20:03.000 It's Cali.

00:20:04.000 Like Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali.

00:20:05.000 Yes!

00:20:06.000 Yeah, don't do a capital E. Post it like that so everyone sees what I was watching.

00:20:09.000 I was just watching it being posted out of the chat and I actually misspelt it.

00:20:13.000 I'm guessing that was Jim.

00:20:15.000 Was that you, Jim?

00:20:16.000 Nick?

00:20:18.000 Who was it?

00:20:19.000 I mean, it's not a shaming situation.

00:20:21.000 Everyone's made mistakes.

00:20:22.000 I mean, you should see some of the things on my ex-feed.

00:20:23.000 It's absolute chaos out there.

00:20:25.000 Kali means... No, I don't even know if it's IE out there.

00:20:27.000 It's not Kali Meat!

00:20:29.000 It's not Ketamine!

00:20:30.000 Kaki... Kali Pokemon!

00:20:33.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:20:34.000 Let's have a look at Micah desperately trying to scramble.

00:20:39.000 Not Catimones, not Calimari.

00:20:41.000 Oh, I'm getting that.

00:20:42.000 I'm fuming. 0.99

00:20:42.000 I'm fucking fuming about this. 0.99

00:20:44.000 If you watch it on YouTube, we'll be here for a few more minutes. 0.98

00:20:46.000 Now, Joe, our Joe, is off this morning on a bland vacation.

00:20:51.000 What do you mean planned?

00:20:52.000 That sounds like you're trying to cover an unplanned vacation.

00:20:55.000 He's not had a mental breakdown because he realizes that everyone knows now that he's been lying about Joe Biden for the last couple of years.

00:21:01.000 This was a holiday.

00:21:03.000 He is not khaki jeans!

00:21:05.000 This is a holiday, a vacation that he's been planning for a very, very long time.

00:21:09.000 He likes to go and practice his facial expressions in Sarasota for months.

00:21:13.000 On end.

00:21:14.000 On Friday's show, I should clarify, Joe said it may be time for Biden to consider stepping aside.

00:21:21.000 May.

00:21:22.000 Consider.

00:21:23.000 Two qualifying words.

00:21:24.000 He also said we should wait a few days to see how he responds.

00:21:27.000 We're shoulder to shoulder on- Not celestial beings!

00:21:31.000 I do agree.

00:21:31.000 That.

00:21:33.000 Joe Biden has work to do.

00:21:35.000 He has to do better.

00:21:36.000 It's not like work to do, he has to do better.

00:21:39.000 Right, he could improve from here.

00:21:41.000 We've got a good foundation of terrible senility.

00:21:45.000 Let's build on that.

00:21:46.000 That's not reliable, is it?

00:21:47.000 It's like, we've got them things that go down the stairs.

00:21:51.000 Let's build a house on it.

00:21:54.000 What are those things?

00:21:54.000 Slinkies.

00:21:55.000 It's a slinky. 0.99

00:21:57.000 His mind is like a slinky. 0.94

00:21:59.000 His team has to do a lot better.

00:22:02.000 Tacky beans! 0.74

00:22:03.000 I'm just not ready though.

00:22:05.000 To count Joe Biden out.

00:22:08.000 That tells you everything.

00:22:09.000 I'm not ready.

00:22:10.000 She's like personally not ready.

00:22:11.000 I'm still going to cling on to for dear life to the idea that Joe Biden is somehow capable and indeed when we're with Kali Mead.

00:22:21.000 I'm going to talk actually Kali in a minute with you mate about like Joy Reid because that's a really lovely moment.

00:22:27.000 It's a lovely clip.

00:22:28.000 I want to get to it.

00:22:29.000 So what we're watching here is the establishment, at least the media establishment, can't even formulate a cohesive response to its own visible entropy.

00:22:38.000 Perhaps unable to tackle the fact that the decay is the clear signal.

00:22:43.000 That the decay is what's been masked for such a long time now.

00:22:47.000 I'm not referring to Joe Biden's decay.

00:22:49.000 I'm talking about institutional decay.

00:22:51.000 I'm talking about the need for radical change.

00:22:53.000 Radical change of the deep state.

00:22:55.000 Radical change when it comes to lobbying.

00:22:57.000 And when I say, you know, there basically was no difference between Trump's four years and Biden's four years, consider this.

00:23:02.000 Consider a government that said, we're not accepting lobbying money anymore.

00:23:06.000 We're not accepting donations anymore.

00:23:09.000 We are decentralising power.

00:23:10.000 I'm going to make the role of government the bare minimum.

00:23:13.000 We are going to ensure that our defence budget is only spent on our troops and military personnel.

00:23:20.000 We end up with 70% of that budget going via the Pentagon and shooting off into Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and Northrop Grumman.

00:23:26.000 Them days are gone.

00:23:26.000 That's over.

00:23:27.000 Those days are over.

00:23:28.000 What you would see is powerful interests fleeing.

00:23:32.000 And until you have a political party that's offering you that, You don't got much, baby! 0.96

00:23:36.000 Listen, we can't start the countdown on YouTube.

00:23:38.000 We're leaving you, darling.

00:23:40.000 I love you, but I need more.

00:23:41.000 We are going now to be exclusively on Rumble, baby, where I'll be talking to Kali Means.

00:23:48.000 That's C-A-L-L-E-Y, new word, M-E-A-N-S. 1.00

00:23:54.000 And I'll be talking to him about the FDA, I'll be talking to him about Big Food, and I'll be talking to him about Big Farmer baby!

00:24:02.000 Click the link in the description, join us over there, see you in a second.

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00:25:35.000 Alright, let's get back to this content.

00:25:38.000 If you can read, you will now be able to read the words Callie Means.

00:25:43.000 Callie Means is not only a brilliant expert, he happens to be my friend.

00:25:48.000 He's written a book called Good Energy.

00:25:51.000 Callie, are you there?

00:25:53.000 I'm here, Russell.

00:25:54.000 Callie, it's so good to see you.

00:25:56.000 Thank you for staying with us.

00:25:57.000 Aside from these complications in your name in the rumble chat, it seems that we've created an environment for you in which to thrive.

00:26:05.000 You were the first person that made me understand Ozempic.

00:26:07.000 You were the first person that made me understand that the function of big food is to make us sick.

00:26:12.000 That big food and big pharma seem to operate in lockstep.

00:26:16.000 If we could understand that consumerism starts with the mouth, and what we put in our mouth, what we put in our bodies, defines us as a culture and as a society.

00:26:27.000 Kali, I've learned so much from you.

00:26:29.000 I'm very excited to read your new book, Good Energy.

00:26:33.000 I want to start where you want to start, mate, and it seems to me that you are most interested in talking about obesity, first of all.

00:26:40.000 Is that right?

00:26:42.000 I'll go wherever you want, Russell.

00:26:44.000 I think these all tie together.

00:26:46.000 Because, well, I mean, I know a lot of the stuff you've done around the Zempik has sort of showed us in real time how the pharmaceutical industry sort of revs up and fires up new opportunities for revenue and sort of bypasses common sense as well as legislation.

00:27:03.000 And I wonder if you'll even touch on the fact that, you know, the F in FDA is for food.

00:27:09.000 They regulate food and drugs.

00:27:12.000 It's an extraordinary little cartel they've got given where they receive the majority of their funding.

00:27:17.000 Yeah, I mean, listening to you talk about the debate and talk about what's happening in our politics with Biden, I think the food issue and this obesity issue really ties to, I think, the biggest issue, the biggest dynamic of the past decade, which is the breakdown of institutions.

00:27:34.000 I think we have the Uniparty in the United States desperate to maintain control, even if that somebody doesn't have cognitive function.

00:27:41.000 We have, you know, populist uprisings on the left and the right throughout Europe, as we see in the UK and France.

00:27:48.000 And I think people are just lashing out about the co-opting of our government by industry, and it's coming out in various ways.

00:27:56.000 But, you know, the biggest industry in the United States is healthcare.

00:27:59.000 You know, it's not AI, it's not tech, it's healthcare.

00:28:03.000 And fundamentally, you know, the healthcare system and then the food system right behind it has co-opted the government.

00:28:08.000 So when it comes to obesity, we have a situation where, just as a simple statement of economic fact, you know, our biggest industries profit when we're poisoned.

00:28:16.000 They profit when we're sick.

00:28:18.000 You know, I tie it to the food companies because, you know, most people don't even realize this.

00:28:22.000 The processed food industry in the United States was created by the tobacco industry.

00:28:27.000 You know, in 1990, when, you know, the 80s, you had the Wall Street and you had all these M&A deals.

00:28:32.000 The two biggest M&A deals in American history up until 1990 were cigarette companies buying food companies.

00:28:37.000 As cigarettes were declining, they actually bought food companies.

00:28:40.000 They bought Kraft, they bought U.S.

00:28:42.000 Foods, you know, they bought Nabisco, R.J.

00:28:45.000 Reynolds and Philip Morris.

00:28:46.000 Those two companies were the biggest food companies in the world in the 1990s.

00:28:50.000 And what they did is they shifted their tobacco scientists, their addiction specialists, to food.

00:28:54.000 And then they also shifted their lobbyists.

00:28:56.000 So around the world, we exported the food pyramid, which said ultra-processed food, carbs, sugar was fine.

00:29:02.000 We got both the United States and people in the UK and people throughout Europe more addicted to ultra-processed food, saying that the ingredients, the thousands of chemicals that tobacco scientists made the food addictive were fine.

00:29:12.000 We got addictive and we got much, much fatter.

00:29:15.000 Now that in America that 80% of the American people are obese or overweight, instead of actually talking about how we should de-rig the system that the tobacco industry actually created with our food, we're saying that 80% of Americans need a drug, a lifetime drug.

00:29:32.000 That's much more profitable.

00:29:34.000 And what's sad to see is that our healthcare leaders Not only aren't speaking out about that, they're in bed with both the food industry and the drug industry.

00:29:45.000 The Food and Drug Administration.

00:29:49.000 Kali, this is precisely the type of point that I am indeed trying to make.

00:29:53.000 Which of the two parties is offering the electorate a pledge to break up these cartels and radically alter... We have to come to you to hear that kind of discourse.

00:30:09.000 I want a political party that says we're not even considering the fact that food has become poisonous, that big pharma makes us sick, that defence creates war, that we're living in some kind of bureaucratic paradox where the various agencies that are charged with protection do near enough the opposite to what they pledge.

00:30:31.000 These kind of conversations aren't available In the MAGA space or in the, you know, RFK is the sort of person that is talking about this kind of stuff.

00:30:40.000 Is that fair?

00:30:41.000 Does Donald Trump have anti-FDA or anti-Big Food views?

00:30:46.000 Do you feel that either one of the candidates would make a difference in the area of your expertise?

00:30:51.000 For example, just with what you said about the tobacco industry's co-opting Big Food and using it as a sort of a second addictive tool.

00:31:00.000 Well, I think we have a huge dynamic with RFK, you know, who has, I think, very ably articulated this devil's bargain between the food and the pharmaceutical industry made it the pillar of our campaign.

00:31:11.000 But I think we have to give credit to President Trump.

00:31:14.000 I mean, the foundation of his candidacy, and let's just back up and look at President Trump, whatever you think of him.

00:31:20.000 This has been the dominant figure in American politics for the past 10 years.

00:31:24.000 He is a vessel that voters continually, election after election, are gravitating towards and trying to say something.

00:31:30.000 What are those voters trying to tell us?

00:31:32.000 I believe that the foundation of Trump's candidacy, the thesis of his candidacy, is that our institutions are breaking down and letting people down.

00:31:41.000 And the biggest institution in the United States, the institution I would argue that affects us more than anything is our health.

00:31:46.000 I mean, just look at what's happening to kids.

00:31:50.000 33% have prediabetes.

00:31:51.000 50% of teens are overweight or obese.

00:31:53.000 This is a unique problem in America.

00:31:55.000 It's a moral stain in our country.

00:31:57.000 In Japan, the childhood obesity rate is 3%.

00:32:01.000 Fatty liver disease of teens, 25%.

00:32:03.000 The mental health disorders among teens in the United States and really throughout the world are exploding.

00:32:09.000 I believe that voters and Trump is a vessel to express that frustration.

00:32:13.000 I think Trump and RFK are the two most anti-establishment candidates, whatever you think of them in recent American history.

00:32:22.000 And I think there is an all-out war to delegitimize both of these candidates and make us think they're not valid.

00:32:31.000 and I think it's any means necessary, not because of partisan politics, but because

00:32:35.000 of uniparty and corporate control of our political system.

00:32:39.000 My personal position is that anti-establishment candidates are an absolute necessity now in

00:32:46.000 your country and in mine, and whatever reservations and doubts you may have about them, just the

00:32:52.000 very fact that the establishment objects to them is reason enough to support them in order

00:32:59.000 to at least ignite the necessary change that we've been discussing.

00:33:03.000 For some time.

00:33:04.000 Do you think that if Biden were to get a second term, in spite of his odd and somewhat ridiculous mantra that they'd beat Big Pharma just by imposing what seemed like pretty moderate measures, the Zempik would become the de facto solution to the problem of obesity that is given to children?

00:33:25.000 And I understand we have some footage of so you can fire that in now, guys.

00:33:30.000 Audio-less, audio-less, and it plays in conjunction with Callie.

00:33:33.000 So, Callie, we should be looking at that in screen with me and Callie.

00:33:37.000 Right.

00:33:37.000 Thanks.

00:33:38.000 Thanks, guys.

00:33:39.000 Yeah, get that straight.

00:33:40.000 Cheers.

00:33:41.000 So, yeah, Callie, tell me what you... Tell me, mate, do you think that if Trump is elected, these are the type of drugs that will be regulated and controlled?

00:33:54.000 Yeah, I've been chatting regularly with RFK, who's been a hero on this issue, and also with Republican leaders and folks that are close to Trump.

00:34:03.000 I know you just talked to Don Jr.

00:34:05.000 Don Jr.

00:34:06.000 has actually been very strong on this issue, and I know he cares deeply about our food system and pharmaceutical corruption.

00:34:12.000 I think there's a lot of people on both sides.

00:34:14.000 So let me just explain what road we're going on with our current system and then how I do think Trump and RFK understand this issue.

00:34:22.000 Ozempic is so important because, you know, we have this situation where I called it a dirty tank.

00:34:28.000 We have a dirty fish tank.

00:34:30.000 And instead of cleaning that tank, you know, addressing why 50% of the teens have obesity, the American Academy of Pediatrics, which sets pediatric care standards throughout the world and in the United States, 90% of their funding comes from Farmer one of their biggest donors is Nova Nordics this Danish company and they haven't been speaking about kids eating ultra processed food as we talked about before food stamp funding going to soda the number one item you know basically that we subsidize sugary drinks for kids they haven't spoken about that but now that kids are obese

00:35:03.000 They're saying that this needs to be the first-line defense for a 12-year-old and they're now studying it for six-year-olds.

00:35:07.000 We're very close on the road to where if a six-year-old is overweight in the United States, the American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't say diet and lifestyle.

00:35:17.000 You know, they actually say a first-line defense needs to be this lifetime drug.

00:35:21.000 Now, why is that the case?

00:35:23.000 Because this drug is $1,800 per month per patient per year.

00:35:28.000 Excuse me, $1800 per month, okay?

00:35:31.000 It's a lifetime drug.

00:35:33.000 And in the United States, drug prices don't go down, its volume goes up.

00:35:36.000 So the pharmaceutical industry, and again, this isn't conspiratorial, this is a statement of economic fact, is the largest funder of politicians.

00:35:44.000 of regulatory agencies, they fund 75% of the FDA, of research institutions,

00:35:49.000 they're the largest funder of medical research, and the media itself,

00:35:53.000 they fund 50% of mainstream media TV spending, which is now saying that Ozempic has to be the answer.

00:35:59.000 And they're actually saying you're anti-science if you talk about diet and lifestyle.

00:36:02.000 I'm not even joking about that.

00:36:03.000 The 60 Minutes and other mainstream news programs are having a Harvard doctor on

00:36:10.000 that says you are anti-science if you say obesity is tied to what children are eating.

00:36:15.000 It is a genetic condition and quote, a brain disease.

00:36:18.000 So that's the type of environment.

00:36:20.000 It's the COVID playbook.

00:36:21.000 You are anti-science if you talk about exercising.

00:36:23.000 You're anti-science about asking why we're getting sick.

00:36:26.000 It is following the science to jab and drug ourselves.

00:36:30.000 And the last, the stakes here, Russell, are, you know, our human capital is being depleted and it's not working drugging the problem.

00:36:37.000 I mean, the more statins we prescribe, the more heart diseases going up, the more metformin we prescribe, the more diabetes is going up.

00:36:42.000 We're getting more and more depressed as we take more antidepressants.

00:36:45.000 So I just think it's the moral clarity.

00:36:49.000 It's the ability to go up against this monolithic, powerful system that's kind of created our rules and be able to say enough is enough.

00:36:59.000 And I think, again, whatever you think of them, Donald Trump and RFK are the two candidates in our lifetime who have that understanding of these dynamics and have the courage potentially to go after it.

00:37:11.000 Yeah, that's encouraging, at least.

00:37:13.000 A few things to flag here is that under Obama, the head of food safety at the FDA was a former Monsanto lobbyist.

00:37:23.000 And I suppose that's... Yeah, can I just... No, I still need to callion screen.

00:37:27.000 Thanks, guys.

00:37:28.000 And...

00:37:30.000 I would say that when you have something as serious and significant as the type of cancer increases that we're currently experiencing, that too is a sort of seismic challenge that needs to be addressed.

00:37:46.000 Do you think that there's a danger, Callie?

00:37:49.000 I'm looking at you, Callie, now in the screen, guys.

00:37:51.000 Let's leave Callie in there and then just keep The pips in this monitor, if you could manage that in the gallery. 0.99

00:37:56.000 Is that possible for you or is that something you're struggling with, guys?

00:37:59.000 Just let me know on microphone now if you don't mind.

00:38:02.000 No, let me know if it's possible, or using your language in the microphone.

00:38:06.000 Is it possible?

00:38:08.000 Hello, gallery?

00:38:08.000 I can't hear you, gallery.

00:38:09.000 I'm just asking you a question.

00:38:12.000 Gallery?

00:38:12.000 Hello?

00:38:13.000 Would you answer me please, so I know, through the mic?

00:38:17.000 Hello?

00:38:18.000 Alright, come in then if you can't answer me.

00:38:20.000 Come in, if you can't answer me.

00:38:21.000 Don't leave me hanging, remember we talked about this last week, if you don't mind.

00:38:25.000 Thank you.

00:38:25.000 So remember, does the mic work?

00:38:28.000 Doesn't work either.

00:38:29.000 Okay, guys.

00:38:30.000 So, with something as significant as these radical cancer increases, Kali, I wonder, mate, if you consider it a possibility that recent medical interventions during the pandemic period have contributed to this extraordinary rise.

00:38:44.000 I know that it's been taking place over decades rather than years, but do you think it's possible that these somewhat untried medications have potentially contributed to increased cancers, and in particular what have been called turbo cancers?

00:38:59.000 Well, there's a couple dynamics to unpack here.

00:39:02.000 Cancer rates, as you said, are at their highest rate in history in 2024 and they're skyrocketing among kids.

00:39:09.000 The New York Times recently had a front page headline that said cancer rates are exploding among children.

00:39:13.000 Nobody knows why.

00:39:15.000 Russell, we know why. 0.98

00:39:17.000 And I've never been, you know, if you told me 15 years ago as a conservative lobbyist that I'd be talking about nutrition, I would have said, you know, you're crazy.

00:39:25.000 That wasn't my issue.

00:39:26.000 You know, but fundamentally these are very basic things.

00:39:29.000 We're eating food that Monsanto has lobbied and literally they have their lobbyists running big parts of the FDA with glyphosate and other chemicals that clearly are tied to cancer and other issues.

00:39:40.000 You know, we have thousands of chemicals in our food that are very unknown, that are very

00:39:45.000 unregulated.

00:39:46.000 You know, we have ultra-processed food with completely artificial ingredients that are

00:39:49.000 hurting ourselves.

00:39:50.000 And this is the point of our book which is really resonating.

00:39:53.000 I mean, just as a data point, it debuted at number one.

00:39:56.000 It's really, I think, catching a nerve.

00:39:58.000 And the point of the book is really simple.

00:40:00.000 It's that we're being lied to.

00:40:02.000 We're being lied to that the exploding rates of autoimmune conditions, cancer, diabetes,

00:40:07.000 heart disease, we're told this is all complicated.

00:40:09.000 It's actually very simple.

00:40:11.000 Our ultra-processed food consumption has gone up from 20% to 70% in a generation.

00:40:18.000 We have just chronic stress with our phones, especially that we give our kids.

00:40:23.000 We're sleeping an hour less than we did just 50 years ago where we're so sedentary that 78% of American 21 year olds aren't eligible to join the military.

00:40:32.000 You know, we've got basic dynamics that are just demonstrably hurting ourselves, and it's very damaging to the existing healthcare system to point out these simple facts.

00:40:43.000 What the healthcare system does, and we talk about in the book, is, you know, my sister, the first day of Stanford med school, she's trained that Americans are lazy, and that they're going to get sick, and that the medical system treats people once they're sick.

00:40:56.000 That is a very profitable idea, right?

00:40:58.000 But you have to understand that everyone in healthcare just accepts that we get sick.

00:41:03.000 They profit from managing disease.

00:41:05.000 That's where 95% of healthcare spending goes.

00:41:08.000 So, you know, cancer is a preventable condition.

00:41:11.000 It's a preventable disease.

00:41:12.000 My mom died of pancreatic cancer.

00:41:15.000 Our ecologist at Stanford said that was unlucky.

00:41:18.000 It wasn't unlucky.

00:41:19.000 Pancreatic cancer is as tied to diabetes, which she had, and blood sugar decirculation as smoking is to lung cancer.

00:41:25.000 You can really tie cancer rates to what we're eating and other, you know, issues like diabetes.

00:41:30.000 We don't even have curiosity about that.

00:41:32.000 So that's the radical shift that is really resonating on both sides of the aisle.

00:41:39.000 But particularly with Trump and RFK, it's not about lecturing people about eating healthier or exercising, but a doctor when they're sitting across the table from somebody with high cholesterol, with high blood sugar, with that first sign of an issue, There's a huge moment where does that doctor prescribe a drug or does the doctor talk about what's actually underlying happening in that patient's body.

00:42:02.000 If we shifted to a system where that doctor is actually spreading curiosity about the underlying causes of that disease, we're both going to feel better today but we're also going to prevent diseases like cancer and dementia which is a form of diabetes to Truly, it's called type 3 diabetes.

00:42:21.000 We can prevent that down the road.

00:42:23.000 But again, Russell, that is a threat to the largest and fastest growing industry in the country, the healthcare industry, which has completely bought off the Uniparty.

00:42:33.000 How extraordinary that the alarming performance that we saw from Joe Biden in those debates is in some ways a consequence of the kind of systems when it comes to nutrition and regulation that he is in fact the epitome of.

00:42:54.000 Your book, and the incredible success of your book, debuting, I think, at number one on the New York Times, but also on Amazon, that you wrote, as you've mentioned, in conjunction with your sister, Dr. Casey Means.

00:43:05.000 I suppose the success of that book is an indication that there's an incredible appetite for truth, and that's not the kind of truth that's easy to get anymore within the establishment.

00:43:15.000 For all of its kind of vanguardia in its rhetoric, it's an incredibly conservative ...organization by nature, that the function of the legacy media is to prevent real...

00:43:29.000 The function of the establishment is to ensure that power remains constricted and manageable, that the kind of interests that you've spent the last 20 minutes describing to us aren't challenged by the only force that could ever truly challenge them, a well-informed population armed with the facts and willing to oppose the narratives that we're currently dealing with.

00:43:53.000 I'm interested to get your take, Kali, on the rise in interest in not only psychedelics, but also MDMA.

00:44:02.000 And when we were mucking around on YouTube earlier, you mentioned ketamine.

00:44:07.000 Are these mental health drugs or psych drugs and new emergent potential solutions part of a new conversation that could similarly affect the profits and of Big Pharma.

00:44:25.000 Is it possible that the truth is being withheld when it comes to the efficacy of the medications we're currently prescribed and these new and emergent medications?

00:44:36.000 Well, I'm glad you brought up psychedelics as I'm wearing my blue sports coat.

00:44:39.000 I like to talk about this not with my shaman outfit, but looking like a conservative nerd, because I do think this is a very important bipartisan issue.

00:44:48.000 And I'm talking a lot to people on the right and the left about this, because I think the coming wave of Psychedelics, which has always been kind of a dominion of the left, is actually being seen now as a bipartisan, even a rightward, a lot of people embracing issue.

00:45:05.000 And here's why.

00:45:06.000 And just to set the table, I think this is actually gets the core of what's wrong with our health care system and is a extremely important societal dynamic.

00:45:15.000 So my main issue, my main message is that in America particularly, we're not getting to the root cause.

00:45:22.000 $4.5 trillion of healthcare is spent on managing disease once people are sick.

00:45:26.000 Fundamentally, just as a simple statement of economic fact, a child that gets sick, depressed, that is eventually infertile, is overweight, that's a very profitable patient for the system because there's a lot of conditions to manage and American in fear is easy to control and very profitable.

00:45:45.000 Again, that's just a simple statement of economic fact.

00:45:47.000 Now, depression is the biggest of them all, of health issues.

00:45:52.000 25% of women are on a mental health medication right now.

00:45:55.000 We're really struggling in the United States with meaning and mental health.

00:45:59.000 But that predominant method, the SSRIs, fundamentally numb you out from reality and they don't cure.

00:46:05.000 They're a lifetime drug.

00:46:06.000 The science and psychedelics are profound.

00:46:09.000 In one therapy session, a high-dose psilocybin therapy session, people see dramatic remissions in PTSD, depression, And how does that happen?

00:46:18.000 According to the research, and my personal experience is the most impactful experience of my life of therapeutic psychedelic sessions and sent me in my entire trajectory, it helps you get to the root cause of your trauma.

00:46:28.000 It helps you reset some pathways.

00:46:29.000 It helps you see the world and issues that were holding you back from a different dimension in a different way and kind of outside of the ruts that we all have.

00:46:37.000 That's fundamentally what the experience and what this medication does.

00:46:41.000 That is very disruptive for the medical system because a one-time treatment that helps you get to the root cause is not the business model.

00:46:48.000 The business model is numbing symptoms and recurring revenue.

00:46:52.000 So the industry, the mental health industry, the pharma industry is actually using every trick in the book To delegitimize this research and stop FDA approval, even though across the board, literally without exception, the doctors who've studied this at Johns Hopkins and Harvard and other institutions have said it's the most promising mental health research of their careers.

00:47:11.000 So this is a big fight.

00:47:12.000 And I want everyone to understand who hasn't really looked into this research.

00:47:16.000 This is.

00:47:17.000 There's nothing more important than our brains.

00:47:19.000 There's nothing more important than the trauma narratives that are holding us back.

00:47:23.000 That's the first order issue.

00:47:24.000 And there is a war right now.

00:47:26.000 Let me be very clear.

00:47:27.000 There is a war from the FDA to prevent the American people from having access to their own brains.

00:47:34.000 Oh wow, that's so fantastic.

00:47:35.000 It really makes sense when you zoom out into the big picture like that.

00:47:41.000 I was listening to you and paying very close attention, but also thinking that the systems that are being suggested by the nature of the problem are decentralized and localized systems of food production that wherever possible you should be eating food that's grown reared or hunted as close as possible as to where it will ultimately be

00:48:07.000 And the impact of that would be devastating, decimating to big food and ultimately big pharma.

00:48:13.000 Because when you start talking about psychedelics ultimately operating as a kind of opportunity to have a psychological, and maybe even perhaps more appropriately, spiritual reset, you're starting to approach what we're dealing with here.

00:48:28.000 People are being treated as kind of blobs on a conveyor belt, as you said.

00:48:33.000 Sick from childhood, medicated throughout their lives, continually consuming.

00:48:39.000 It's clear that somewhere, Callie, and maybe you've seen them, there are charts and graphs where Americans are represented as numbers, where we require this percentage of the population to eat this type of food, or to be on this drug.

00:48:55.000 Yeah, data charts exist.

00:48:57.000 At the recent JPMorgan Healthcare Conference in San Francisco, which is the largest confab of healthcare investors, they showed charts of the increasing depression rates of Americans and increasing obesity rates, and people gave a standing ovation.

00:49:11.000 of people and investors and the pharmaceutical community cheers the fact that we're getting

00:49:17.000 sicker, fatter, more depressed, literally, quite literally.

00:49:21.000 And you're absolutely right, Russell.

00:49:23.000 And that's why a lot of people ask, well, you're saying kind of anti-drug, but then

00:49:26.000 you're talking about psychedelics.

00:49:28.000 It's about following the science and getting to the root cause.

00:49:32.000 When it comes to 9 out of the 10 killers of Americans, from cancer to diabetes, to heart disease, to kidney disease, to even COVID deaths, these are fundamentally tied to the functioning of our cells and basic habits like what we're eating, how we're sleeping, how we're moving.

00:49:46.000 And we are completely and utterly, you know, distracted by that fact from the medical system.

00:49:52.000 Because a child that learns metabolic healthy habits is not profitable.

00:49:57.000 But a child that's on Ozempic and STATS and SSRIs and Adderall, which is one molecule away from meth, which is prescribed to 15% of high school students in the United States, that's a profitable patient.

00:50:08.000 Not only because they're racking up continued money from their recurring drugs because they're

00:50:14.000 not learning the habits that are needed for health and they're going to just

00:50:17.000 continue to be more and more expensive patients. So you have the USDA

00:50:22.000 saying it's dangerous to farm your own food. You have the FDA saying it's

00:50:28.000 dangerous to take psychedelics, psilocybin which is the safest drug out of

00:50:33.000 all 20 drugs the actually an international body studied on side effects and

00:50:39.000 addictiveness and and things like that.

00:50:41.000 It's the lowest side effect, safest drug there is, and they're saying that's dangerous because it helps you get to the root cause of what's going on in your brain.

00:50:47.000 You know, we're hearing that it's dangerous to drink raw milk, but find and serve kids Coca Cola, you know, you fundamentally have a corporatist uniparty doing the bidding of an institution.

00:51:00.000 That just fundamentally wants us to be addicted and sick and.

00:51:07.000 You know, from the top down, I think it's why I'll just be direct.

00:51:11.000 It's existential that we have a president who communicates this issue, who understands that it's more than health care.

00:51:19.000 It's just corruption.

00:51:20.000 Corruption is the issue that's going to bring the American experiment down.

00:51:24.000 And healthcare is the biggest example of that.

00:51:26.000 We need a president who understands that.

00:51:28.000 And from the bottoms up, we need people to start checking out of the system when it comes to chronic conditions, when it comes to mental health.

00:51:35.000 We are not being led correctly.

00:51:39.000 And I think people are flocking to that with books, with podcasts.

00:51:43.000 And I think it's why there is such a war on independent media, because it's very disruptive to get these ideas out.

00:51:50.000 There's clearly a correlation between the way that we are mentally imprisoned when it comes to the ideas that we have access to and the ideas that are inaccessible through censorship.

00:51:58.000 And like you said, Americans are being denied access to their own brains and kind of external attempts to enclose and incarcerate us physically through various means and measures.

00:52:09.000 I was very struck, Callie, by what you said.

00:52:11.000 That is one molecule away from meth.

00:52:14.000 That's a pretty Terrifying, if catchy, offering there.

00:52:19.000 And also I want to pass on a few of the questions and inquiries that have been coming through from our Rumble chat as well.

00:52:26.000 Audrey DB said, how is veganism not environmentally friendly?

00:52:32.000 Is veganism Veganism, there was a big push for that, fake meats, lab meats, all that kind of stuff for a while and we were like, what is your take on veganism and what interests were pushing for veganism?

00:52:43.000 Because from Turbo1980 in the chat, I saw a whole list of names like Soros and Gates and I think he was relating it to issues around food and big food and the control of food at a global level.

00:52:59.000 I wonder if there's any connection between those two ideas, Callie?

00:53:03.000 That's a great question.

00:53:04.000 So in the book we talk about how when we hear about a dietary philosophy, and my sister used to be a militant vegan and has evolved on this, but dietary philosophies are generally, you should be very skeptical of, and are tools of corporate interests to sell you something and not to improve the environment or improve your health.

00:53:22.000 I think it's totally fine to be on a path of veganism as long as you're on whole foods.

00:53:28.000 As I said, my sister was on that path and realized and brought some meat in. 0.81

00:53:32.000 What we really realized and what I think is really the most important issue to understand is that we have to get back to basics.

00:53:38.000 A cow that is raised on GMO corn feed in a factory farming situation, they are bad for the environment and very bad for our health.

00:53:48.000 The things they're being fed with the corn and soy and things they're not made to eat actually changes the makeup of their body, makes that animal actually less healthy.

00:53:58.000 and makes it bad for the environment.

00:53:59.000 A cow raised regeneratively, how cows have always been raised up until 50 years ago, actually is neutral slash potentially even positive for the environment.

00:54:08.000 Regenerative agriculture is carbon neutral.

00:54:11.000 So the key, I think, is getting back to basics.

00:54:14.000 It's not seeing, as Bill Gates says, innovation as lab-grown meat and other way things and processed routes that our body, you know, is not made to handle.

00:54:25.000 I see innovation as using AI, using technology to figure out how to get back to basics, to figuring out how to raise plants and animals together in a cohesive ecosystem, which helps the soil.

00:54:39.000 You know, to figure out how to raise food that our body is biologically made to eat.

00:54:44.000 Right now, ultra-processed food, the key ingredients are processed grains, sugar, and seed oils.

00:54:50.000 Those are new manufactured ingredients.

00:54:53.000 Just fundamentally, if we can You know, raise and feed our bodies with food that the way it's been made to eat.

00:54:58.000 That's better for the environment.

00:54:59.000 That's better for us.

00:55:01.000 So I would just I really do worry about the vegan kind of agenda being a scare tactic to get us away from productively raised meat and really ecosystems with farming that are the way it's supposed to be.

00:55:19.000 Yeah, there seems to be a war against farmers and an attempt to control agriculture everywhere in the world.

00:55:24.000 Farmers are up in arms in our country, in yours, in India, in Sri Lanka.

00:55:28.000 There seems to be some globalist movement to use environmental ideas to exert control on farming.

00:55:35.000 As usual, we're being protected by these peculiar globalist forces.

00:55:39.000 I wonder if you have anything to say on that subject and whether or not it aligns with Warren Buffett, who seems to have made a good deal of his considerable fortune by investing in addiction.

00:55:49.000 Cigarettes via Philip Morris, McDonald's, Coke, Dairy Queen, but even he has cut ties with Bill Gates.

00:55:58.000 How does this tie into this global agenda?

00:56:03.000 100%.

00:56:03.000 So taking the first question, RFK speaks very eloquently about this, and Trump is frankly speaking more about needing to stick up for small farmers.

00:56:13.000 But our soil in America, like what produces our life, but the soil basically puts nutrients into our food.

00:56:20.000 It's depleted.

00:56:21.000 A tomato in the United States has 70% less nutrients than it did 50 years ago.

00:56:26.000 So, our farming practices have absolutely just robbed our food of its nutritional value.

00:56:32.000 So, rather than getting into a dietary philosophy of vegan versus carnivore or these games that I think the system wants us to fight over, we got to ask, are we getting back to basics?

00:56:42.000 Are we getting to good farming practices?

00:56:44.000 Are we getting to pasture-raised beef?

00:56:45.000 Are we getting to regenerative Because if we get back to how food is supposed to be grown and raised and ranched, you're inevitably going to be better for the environment.

00:56:57.000 And if veganism is just a wrap on an ultra-processed food factory farming agenda, you should be very, very skeptical.

00:57:06.000 Warren Buffett, I think, ties into this.

00:57:08.000 It's interesting.

00:57:09.000 And it gets back to my point on why we have industrial agriculture that's really biased towards ultra-processed food.

00:57:16.000 Why we have this devil's bargain where the food industry is making us sick and addicted and the pharma industry is complicit in profiting.

00:57:23.000 It's because Warren Buffett realized early on this point about a sick child.

00:57:28.000 And I just want to make this clear one more time.

00:57:30.000 And it's just, it's a statement of economic fact.

00:57:33.000 A child that gets addicted to sugar, a child that gets addicted to ultra processed food, a child that continues to be, you know, sick over time and addicted, that is a profitable person.

00:57:42.000 They're the greatest economic goldmine.

00:57:45.000 in capitalism is our dopamine.

00:57:48.000 And when you actually look at Warren Buffett's investment returns, his performance was driven

00:57:53.000 by actually eight companies above all else.

00:57:56.000 You can kind of like throw away the rest.

00:57:59.000 And almost all those companies preyed upon dopamine.

00:58:02.000 He actually built his career investing in cigarette companies and that was a very targeted

00:58:06.000 strategy for him.

00:58:07.000 Then, of course, he bought Dairy Queen.

00:58:09.000 He bought See's Candies, which has actually been one of his best investments.

00:58:12.000 He was the largest owner of Coca-Cola.

00:58:14.000 He was the largest owner of McDonald's.

00:58:17.000 So, you know, you can judge this morally however you want, but as an investor, he was a genius for over 40 years realizing that dopamine is a great, great tool and really making that connection between cigarettes and

00:58:32.000 food.

00:58:33.000 Now, that's the way the game is played.

00:58:36.000 He made a lot of money that way, but this gets back to the top down.

00:58:40.000 This system is gonna destroy America.

00:58:43.000 Just fundamentally, our financial, our health, our economic systems being dependent

00:58:49.000 on Americans getting sicker is not a sustainable trajectory.

00:58:53.000 I don't think it's a free market.

00:58:54.000 This is a rigged market because ultra processed food is subsidized.

00:58:59.000 Oh, my plant's coming down here.

00:59:01.000 The plant's trying to tell me something.

00:59:04.000 I think that's because when you criticized vegans.

00:59:06.000 This is kind of a sign, actually, on the regenerative agriculture.

00:59:08.000 This is good.

00:59:09.000 Help me, Kelly!

00:59:10.000 Why don't you practice what you preach?

00:59:13.000 You're not giving me any water!

00:59:15.000 I think the plant was giving me a hug for what we were saying.

00:59:18.000 Thanks for sticking up for us, boss!

00:59:20.000 Well, listen, let me take that opportunity to say that he'll like love in our Awakened Wonder chat on Locals, for our members said of Warren Buffett, our dopamine is their gold.

00:59:32.000 And I like it the way, even when you have very powerful individuals like that, In a sense, they're part of a system that rewards a particular type of behaviour.

00:59:40.000 On one hand, the commodity that they're mining is within our own biochemistry, and the system that controls them is a sort of an economic superstructure within which they are just a particularly successful node that has to be occupied by someone.

00:59:58.000 And it shows you sort of both from our perspective as individuals that we require a degree of control or at least a different type of focus and systemically there needs to be radical change otherwise you know you replace one billionaire or one globalist and another one will just pop up to take its place.

01:00:16.000 Also, A Miller 24 in the chat says, I'm ordering Callie's book,

01:00:20.000 Good Energy, The Surprising Connection Between Metabolism and Limitless Health right now.

01:00:27.000 We'll post a link for that in the chat right away.

01:00:30.000 And I wanted to take the chance here, Callie, to talk to you about lobbying.

01:00:35.000 As we approach this election, in the 2020 cycle, the food and beverage political donations

01:00:42.000 amounted to 56 million in total, and that was split 22 million to the Democrat party,

01:00:47.000 29 million to the Republican party, roughly 50-50, more or less.

01:00:51.000 And when it came to Big Pharma in the last election cycle, there was 80 million spent on lobbying, that is.

01:00:58.000 50 million of that went to the Dems and 29 to the Republicans, so just under 80.

01:01:03.000 So again, this is sort of kind of a systemic stranglehold that's pretty prohibitive and I hope that you're right about Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump, that these anti-establishment figures who certainly in their discourse understand that most people are, well both literally but also psychologically, sick of of these systems are a significant part of the electorate and we all actually really want change.

01:01:31.000 And the kind of change that you're talking about would kind of mean the breaking up of big food, the breaking up of big pharma, the ability of people to eat good local food, become healthier and stronger and more awakened.

01:01:45.000 I mean, that is a radically different America, a radically different world, isn't it?

01:01:50.000 I think it's an embrace of American principles.

01:01:52.000 I mean, what I think is resonating when I talk to folks on the right, when I talk to folks on the left, is that it's not about slanting Americans to eat healthy or exercise.

01:02:01.000 It's just following the science and correcting incentives.

01:02:04.000 I don't think Americans are trying to kill themselves.

01:02:07.000 You know, my mom who died early, you know, and had diabetes.

01:02:11.000 High cholesterol that eventually got the pancreatic cancer.

01:02:13.000 I can tell you she wanted to live and I think most Americans who have diabetes heart disease cancer We're kind of lied to right that that everyone's trying to get sick that we can't really help it You know when there's epidemic cancer rates epidemic autoimmune condition rates epidemic obesity rates.

01:02:27.000 There's really a systemic problems I'm a personal responsibility guys, you know Russell but like when when it's the majority of the American people are getting sick all at once I think you've got to look at the system and incentives and Yeah, but you are right.

01:02:41.000 This will be a radical change.

01:02:43.000 We're not living in a capitalist society right now.

01:02:46.000 We're living in a cryptocracy where corporate interests are completely slanting our institutions, as you point out every day, from the military, from education to health.

01:02:55.000 Our big institutions are not producing safety, they're not producing educated children, they're not producing healthy Americans.

01:03:02.000 They've been co-opted because they're jobs programs and there's a lot of corruption that's not in the interest those industries are supposed to serve.

01:03:09.000 So yeah, unpacking this incentive is going to be really, really disruptive.

01:03:16.000 Unpacking the devil's bargain between food and healthcare is going to cause short-term economic dislocation.

01:03:22.000 These are the most employed industries in the country.

01:03:25.000 But I would just argue, given the rates of sickness, given how health care spending is going to bankrupt our country, given the, I could tell you, I don't know if it's the same case in the UK, but going into a classroom for my young child and looking at, it's not a good feeling.

01:03:41.000 Nobody feels like what's happening with kids is on a good trajectory.

01:03:44.000 So when are we going from the top down to say enough?

01:03:49.000 And when are politicians going to increasingly realize that channeling what you're talking about, that channeling what Joe Rogan's talking about, that channeling what the most popular books are talking about, that channeling where Americans are gravitating towards is questioning our institutions and questioning why we're getting sick.

01:04:04.000 And there's huge political resonance in unpacking that.

01:04:09.000 Man, we've got a few more inquiries from the chat that I'd love to pass your way.

01:04:12.000 One is from The Unicorn Plug.

01:04:13.000 Have you heard that Coca-Cola is actually the world's most elite water mafia next to Nestle?

01:04:19.000 Are they acquiring water?

01:04:19.000 Is that true?

01:04:21.000 Are they controlling water?

01:04:22.000 I don't know what they mean there by water mafia, but I wanted to put that question your way.

01:04:26.000 As well as this from Goose McGrain, who's put this many times in the Rumble chat.

01:04:30.000 Ask Callie about vitamin B17 and cancer.

01:04:34.000 So there's a couple of things I'd love to pass on to you there.

01:04:38.000 Great questions.

01:04:39.000 So, I am pretty cynical about why, you know, let's just call the fact of fact, why Bill Gates is buying up more farmland than any human who's ever existed.

01:04:52.000 Why George Soros is so interested in our food and water systems.

01:04:57.000 Why there's such a push from elite systems to push us into an ultra processed food system.

01:05:02.000 You know, and why water politics, you know, are such an interest of the elites.

01:05:08.000 If you control the food, you control the people.

01:05:11.000 That's a tried and true aphorism.

01:05:13.000 And I think when big corporations and elites are buying up our farmland and really controlling our water supply, which is what's happening, I think that should be a big concern.

01:05:24.000 I do think, given how concentrated our farming system is becoming and how Low resilient, it's becoming as we're becoming more of a industrial farming and not having small farmers anymore.

01:05:37.000 I think that we are on the verge of a food or water crisis.

01:05:41.000 And I think that's a really good question on the vitamin B12 to cancer.

01:05:45.000 I just can't stress this enough and this is why this book is resonating.

01:05:48.000 A book I'm proud to say has outsold Dr. Fauci's new book.

01:05:52.000 I think Americans are gravitating towards messages of empowerment.

01:05:58.000 And the key point here is that cancer is a preventable condition tied to food.

01:06:03.000 Wow.

01:06:04.000 And there's steps you can take and through my sister's genius, there's really tactical step-by-step actions.

01:06:12.000 With the key point that actually feeling better today, reversing your anxiety, sleeping better, steps you take to feel better today, can demonstrably and significantly lower your chances of getting a life-threatening disease like cancer down the road.

01:06:25.000 So we unpack that in the book.

01:06:26.000 I'm going to get myself a copy of that book.

01:06:29.000 It's written by Callie and his sister Casey, and it sounds like a very practically useful and ideologically informative piece of writing.

01:06:38.000 And I'm astonished to hear that it's doing better than one of my favorite authors, Dr. Anthony Pouchy!

01:06:43.000 Who's a very good writer, but is it okay to find him sexually attractive?

01:06:47.000 Is that alright?

01:06:48.000 That that guy is a heartthrob?

01:06:50.000 Come for the medical advice! 0.93

01:06:52.000 Whatever... Whatever... No judgment there, Russell.

01:06:54.000 Whatever gets you going.

01:06:55.000 That's a little masochistic, but it's okay.

01:06:57.000 I like it.

01:06:58.000 I like to be controlled.

01:06:59.000 It's as simple as that.

01:07:00.000 Callie, thank you for joining me.

01:07:02.000 We'll post a link to your book on the chat and to all of our social media sites because it's no obligation at all to support your brilliant and informative work.

01:07:12.000 I'm hoping that we can do more together going forward and form a kind of alliance that eventually becomes a revolutionary force that takes over... We don't take over the world, I don't want any power.

01:07:22.000 We create templates that other people can use to take over their communities and then we can just sit back and enjoy our dotage eventually.

01:07:30.000 Thank you sir, you're a hero.

01:07:32.000 Cally Means, thank you so much for your time today.

01:07:34.000 Thank you mate, I'll speak to you again soon.

01:07:36.000 Thanks, lots of love mate. 1.00

01:07:37.000 Well, thank you so much for joining us.

01:07:39.000 That concludes our show today.

01:07:40.000 We will be back tomorrow.

01:07:42.000 We're getting ready of course for Thursday the 11th when the announcement as to whether or not

01:07:47.000 Donald Trump will go to jail like his former advisor Steve Bannon will be made.

01:07:54.000 In the intervening time, of course we're gonna be discussing

01:07:57.000 the fallout from the debate, the increasing clamour for war and NATO involvement

01:08:02.000 in the Ukraine-Russia conflict, as well as doing our best to understand

01:08:06.000 the complexity of matters in the Middle East and what our obligations are.

01:08:10.000 When it comes to ending all of that.

01:08:12.000 I think with Kali, a lot of important subjects were raised.

01:08:15.000 They all seem to me to point towards individual awareness and the local ability to be in charge of our resources.

01:08:23.000 And perhaps even the word resources is one we should examine if we truly want to have a symbiotic relationship with this planet and the Lord our God.

01:08:30.000 Hey, but that's just what I think.

01:08:31.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.

01:08:34.000 Hope you enjoyed.

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01:08:51.000 Letting go of absolutely everything.

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