In this episode of Stay Free With Russell Brand, host Russell Brand is joined by Callie Means to talk about his new book 'Good Energy' and how he exposes the hypocrisy and corruption within Big Food and Big Pharma, and how they work together to make sure you don t have to eat healthy food. He also talks about how dangerous it is to eat ketamine and the dangers of SSRIs and ketamine-based drugs, and why he thinks cauliflower is a great alternative to ketamine. Stay free with Russell Brand! Stay free, my friends. You re not going to want to miss this one. This episode is brought to you by Pfizer. In this video, you re going to see the future. In this episode, you ll get to see The Future: Awakening Wonders, hosted by Russell Brand. Stay Free, my loves. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and tell a friend about this podcast if you like it. You can also join the FB group and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts and we'll read out your thoughts on what you think of the show. Thank you! Love ya, bye. Timestamps: 0:00 - What's Good Energy? 5:30 - How Can I Have It All? 6:15 - Why is it Better than Keto? 7:40 - Why Keto Eat Good Food? 8:20 - Keto Keto or Ketamine? 9:00- What's Yours Truly? 10:00 | Can I have it All the Best? 11:00 12: What's Better? 13:30 | Keto Be Good? 15:00 + 5 Things I Can't Have It? 16:00 Is It All I Can I See The Future? 17:00 Can You Have It Better Than This? 18:00 // Keto, My Thoughts On Keto & Keto And Keto Or Not? 19:00 / 21:00 My Thoughts? 22: Is It Better than That's Good Enough? 25:00 & I'll I Can t Have It Yet? 26:00? 27:00 Or Do You Think So? 28:00 And I'll Get It Better? / Is It Good Or Not So Much? 35:00+ - Is It More Than That?
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00:04:55.000Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:04:59.000We've got a brilliant show, actually, because Callie Means is on.
00:05:01.000If you don't know who Callie Means is, yeah, if you don't, do you know who he is?
00:05:04.000Callie Means used to work at Coca-Cola, used to work at Big Food, now he exposes a lot of the corruption and hypocrisy within Big Food and how Big Food work in tandem with Big Pharma through donation and lobbying to create situations where legislation can't get through if it would mean that you'd eat better food, be healthier, not have to take medications that would ultimately be bad for you.
00:07:23.000I'm excited to get into it with you today.
00:07:26.000Yeah, we're gonna have good fun together, you and I. Look, I think I'm the first person that started to use that background, you know, that sort of them sort of slats like that.
00:07:34.000I would say that I am the first person, and I think that... I'm not saying... It's not Cali memes!
00:07:40.000It's Cali means, like as in Cali means business.
00:08:15.000What's wrong with... We'll be talking about cauliflower too.
00:08:16.000We're going to talk about healthy food.
00:08:18.000I heard once from a yogi, I don't know if I can trust them, he said that food... Actually, thinking about it, I can't believe I'm bringing this up to an expert.
00:08:27.000He said food does for you what it looks like.
00:08:30.000So he said walnuts and cauliflower, they're good for your brain.
00:09:24.000If you're watching this on YouTube, we'll be there for another 10 minutes.
00:09:28.000Then, for the interview with Callie, where we'll talk about a Zempik, SSRIs, whether Trump or Biden will be better when it comes to the issue of food, nutrition, and health, and Big Pharma.
00:10:23.000Given that the Supreme Court has said that Donald Trump, to a degree, has immunity, people are saying, pundits I suppose, well, well, we could use that immunity to do anything then!
00:10:35.000And it just makes me wonder, this kind of untethered hysteria, what is the set of principles and morals that we're actually protecting?
00:10:43.000I guess, you know, theoretically, President Biden, acting within the scope of his official duties, could dispatch the military to take out the conservative justices on the court, and he'd be immune.
00:11:49.000And January the 6th is starting to feel increasingly like a meeting.
00:11:51.000media concoction. Isn't it? Was it that bad? Was it that bad? Is it more of a
00:11:58.000yeah a confection, a construct of the media being used to delegitimize the
00:12:03.000Trump presidency? I mean many of the charges that he is currently facing pertain to his handling of that event
00:12:10.000and they sort of often extract that Nancy Pelosi is on camera saying it was
00:12:13.000my responsibility not to dispatch the National Guard. Do you see what I mean? Isn't it hard? Do you find it hard to
00:12:19.000say right this is the moral center. I know that a lot of you
00:12:22.000are full throttle maggot and like the full throttle maggot people
00:12:25.000in a way I envy you because you've gone Trump.
00:12:29.000I don't think there are any full-throttle Biden people anymore.
00:12:32.000What we're watching actually is the media meltdown as such a position becomes impossible to maintain.
00:12:37.000We're seeing the fissures and cracks as half of the media establishment says, oh my god, we can't back this guy anymore because the dementia is now evident.
00:12:45.000And others say, yeah, but with dementia or without dementia, he's still better than Trump.
00:12:50.000Now, let's have a look at our man Bannon on his way to bird.
00:12:54.000Coast to coast and streaming worldwide, you're watching CBS News 24-7, where we know we are seeing history write itself in real time.
00:13:14.000That's an extraordinary piece of propagandist language.
00:13:18.000While Donald Trump gets a ruling from the Supreme Court that he celebrates today, one of his men who helped get Trump to the White House is going to the big house.
00:13:26.000We're talking, of course, about former Trump aide Steve Bannon.
00:13:29.000He just reported to federal prison today in Connecticut.
00:13:35.000Before starting his federal sentence, he played to the lively crowd gathered outside the correctional institution in Connecticut.
00:13:42.000What group of pirates is out here today?
00:13:46.000The longtime Trump ally and former chief strategist surrendered himself to authorities to serve a four-month sentence on contempt charges for defying a subpoena in the congressional investigation into the U.S.
00:14:02.000If this is what it takes to stand up to tyranny, if this is what it takes to stand up to the garland, corrupt, criminal DOJ, if this is what it takes to stand up to Nancy Pelosi, if this is what it takes to stand up He's actually laughing his way to Jan, isn't he?
00:14:18.000And the very prospect of Nancy Pelosi's put a smile on his face.
00:14:23.000One of the most enjoyable moments, if you ask me, of the post-debate meltdown has been watching Joe Scarborough try to reorganise reality as the backgammon board of his neurology has now been flipped.
00:14:40.000And he's trying to assemble some kind of order in his own mind.
00:14:44.000And even he and Micah cannot agree about what reality is anymore and the kind of
00:14:50.000semiotic trope of the kind of man-wife hosts on TV together is starting to
00:14:57.000include even that dynamic of a marital spat as Joe tries to sort of walk
00:15:02.000the tightrope between saying that he still loves Joe Biden but he should
00:15:07.000step aside, clutching his heart at one moment before Micah pursues that other
00:15:13.000Democrat neoliberal establishment narrative of no matter what, no
00:15:18.000matter what, there's keep Even if Joe Biden has to be pushed around in a wheelbarrow like C-3PO when he's being pulled apart, we've still got a vote.
00:16:05.000Just how dark of a place a second Donald Trump term will take America.
00:16:13.000Then I think it's critical that we ask the same questions about this man I love, respect, I suppose the framing is, it doesn't matter how demented, and I'm afraid I'm using that word literally, Joe Biden is, a second Trump term will be so dark, so awful.
00:16:33.000He's already been president for four years.
00:16:36.000I didn't really notice any difference, except the late-night talk shows were all unified in their condemnation of a sitting president in a way that they wouldn't consider being currently, for example.
00:16:47.000I know that the MAGA folk out there were saying, oh, it was bad.
00:16:49.000There was more jobs, and there were manufacturing increases, and this was better, and you had a Better sort of feeling of patriotic priapism.
00:16:57.000You felt a bit more boosted and stuff.
00:16:59.000But what I'm trying to do is neutralise the partisanship and say we're talking about two presidents who have each been president for one term roughly four years each.
00:17:10.000It's not like under one of them we all turned into orbs of pure consciousness and under the other sort of serpent creatures rained down from black clouds and we were all devoured by them.
00:18:52.000Oh, excuse me, I've got a bit of a cold.
00:18:54.000I don't turn into a person who's barely able to operate my anatomy.
00:18:59.000Dear old Joe Biden, it's completely clear and has been for a couple of years now, hasn't it?
00:19:03.000Let's face it, that he's got some dementia, senility or dementia, and should be being carefully catered for, not just for his own well-being, but so that the people of America at large don't begin to think that their figures and public officials Our little more than marionettes placed at the front of the stage while true global corporate power continues its dark masquerade.
00:19:25.000In order to prevent us realising that modern bipartisan democracy is a kind of sham, you should at this point see a hook emerge from the side of the stage, yank him off and then shove out dear old Kamala Harris, whipping up a word salad for everyone.
00:19:43.000Just before we go to our fantastic guest, Callie Means.
00:20:52.000That sounds like you're trying to cover an unplanned vacation.
00:20:55.000He's not had a mental breakdown because he realizes that everyone knows now that he's been lying about Joe Biden for the last couple of years.
00:22:29.000So what we're watching here is the establishment, at least the media establishment, can't even formulate a cohesive response to its own visible entropy.
00:22:38.000Perhaps unable to tackle the fact that the decay is the clear signal.
00:22:43.000That the decay is what's been masked for such a long time now.
00:22:47.000I'm not referring to Joe Biden's decay.
00:22:49.000I'm talking about institutional decay.
00:22:51.000I'm talking about the need for radical change.
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00:26:05.000You were the first person that made me understand Ozempic.
00:26:07.000You were the first person that made me understand that the function of big food is to make us sick.
00:26:12.000That big food and big pharma seem to operate in lockstep.
00:26:16.000If we could understand that consumerism starts with the mouth, and what we put in our mouth, what we put in our bodies, defines us as a culture and as a society.
00:26:46.000Because, well, I mean, I know a lot of the stuff you've done around the Zempik has sort of showed us in real time how the pharmaceutical industry sort of revs up and fires up new opportunities for revenue and sort of bypasses common sense as well as legislation.
00:27:03.000And I wonder if you'll even touch on the fact that, you know, the F in FDA is for food.
00:27:12.000It's an extraordinary little cartel they've got given where they receive the majority of their funding.
00:27:17.000Yeah, I mean, listening to you talk about the debate and talk about what's happening in our politics with Biden, I think the food issue and this obesity issue really ties to, I think, the biggest issue, the biggest dynamic of the past decade, which is the breakdown of institutions.
00:27:34.000I think we have the Uniparty in the United States desperate to maintain control, even if that somebody doesn't have cognitive function.
00:27:41.000We have, you know, populist uprisings on the left and the right throughout Europe, as we see in the UK and France.
00:27:48.000And I think people are just lashing out about the co-opting of our government by industry, and it's coming out in various ways.
00:27:56.000But, you know, the biggest industry in the United States is healthcare.
00:27:59.000You know, it's not AI, it's not tech, it's healthcare.
00:28:03.000And fundamentally, you know, the healthcare system and then the food system right behind it has co-opted the government.
00:28:08.000So when it comes to obesity, we have a situation where, just as a simple statement of economic fact, you know, our biggest industries profit when we're poisoned.
00:28:46.000Those two companies were the biggest food companies in the world in the 1990s.
00:28:50.000And what they did is they shifted their tobacco scientists, their addiction specialists, to food.
00:28:54.000And then they also shifted their lobbyists.
00:28:56.000So around the world, we exported the food pyramid, which said ultra-processed food, carbs, sugar was fine.
00:29:02.000We got both the United States and people in the UK and people throughout Europe more addicted to ultra-processed food, saying that the ingredients, the thousands of chemicals that tobacco scientists made the food addictive were fine.
00:29:12.000We got addictive and we got much, much fatter.
00:29:15.000Now that in America that 80% of the American people are obese or overweight, instead of actually talking about how we should de-rig the system that the tobacco industry actually created with our food, we're saying that 80% of Americans need a drug, a lifetime drug.
00:29:34.000And what's sad to see is that our healthcare leaders Not only aren't speaking out about that, they're in bed with both the food industry and the drug industry.
00:29:49.000Kali, this is precisely the type of point that I am indeed trying to make.
00:29:53.000Which of the two parties is offering the electorate a pledge to break up these cartels and radically alter... We have to come to you to hear that kind of discourse.
00:30:09.000I want a political party that says we're not even considering the fact that food has become poisonous, that big pharma makes us sick, that defence creates war, that we're living in some kind of bureaucratic paradox where the various agencies that are charged with protection do near enough the opposite to what they pledge.
00:30:31.000These kind of conversations aren't available In the MAGA space or in the, you know, RFK is the sort of person that is talking about this kind of stuff.
00:30:41.000Does Donald Trump have anti-FDA or anti-Big Food views?
00:30:46.000Do you feel that either one of the candidates would make a difference in the area of your expertise?
00:30:51.000For example, just with what you said about the tobacco industry's co-opting Big Food and using it as a sort of a second addictive tool.
00:31:00.000Well, I think we have a huge dynamic with RFK, you know, who has, I think, very ably articulated this devil's bargain between the food and the pharmaceutical industry made it the pillar of our campaign.
00:31:11.000But I think we have to give credit to President Trump.
00:31:14.000I mean, the foundation of his candidacy, and let's just back up and look at President Trump, whatever you think of him.
00:31:20.000This has been the dominant figure in American politics for the past 10 years.
00:31:24.000He is a vessel that voters continually, election after election, are gravitating towards and trying to say something.
00:31:30.000What are those voters trying to tell us?
00:31:32.000I believe that the foundation of Trump's candidacy, the thesis of his candidacy, is that our institutions are breaking down and letting people down.
00:31:41.000And the biggest institution in the United States, the institution I would argue that affects us more than anything is our health.
00:31:46.000I mean, just look at what's happening to kids.
00:33:04.000Do you think that if Biden were to get a second term, in spite of his odd and somewhat ridiculous mantra that they'd beat Big Pharma just by imposing what seemed like pretty moderate measures, the Zempik would become the de facto solution to the problem of obesity that is given to children?
00:33:25.000And I understand we have some footage of so you can fire that in now, guys.
00:33:30.000Audio-less, audio-less, and it plays in conjunction with Callie.
00:33:33.000So, Callie, we should be looking at that in screen with me and Callie.
00:33:41.000So, yeah, Callie, tell me what you... Tell me, mate, do you think that if Trump is elected, these are the type of drugs that will be regulated and controlled?
00:33:54.000Yeah, I've been chatting regularly with RFK, who's been a hero on this issue, and also with Republican leaders and folks that are close to Trump.
00:34:30.000And instead of cleaning that tank, you know, addressing why 50% of the teens have obesity, the American Academy of Pediatrics, which sets pediatric care standards throughout the world and in the United States, 90% of their funding comes from Farmer one of their biggest donors is Nova Nordics this Danish company and they haven't been speaking about kids eating ultra processed food as we talked about before food stamp funding going to soda the number one item you know basically that we subsidize sugary drinks for kids they haven't spoken about that but now that kids are obese
00:35:03.000They're saying that this needs to be the first-line defense for a 12-year-old and they're now studying it for six-year-olds.
00:35:07.000We're very close on the road to where if a six-year-old is overweight in the United States, the American Academy of Pediatrics doesn't say diet and lifestyle.
00:35:17.000You know, they actually say a first-line defense needs to be this lifetime drug.
00:35:33.000And in the United States, drug prices don't go down, its volume goes up.
00:35:36.000So the pharmaceutical industry, and again, this isn't conspiratorial, this is a statement of economic fact, is the largest funder of politicians.
00:35:44.000of regulatory agencies, they fund 75% of the FDA, of research institutions,
00:35:49.000they're the largest funder of medical research, and the media itself,
00:35:53.000they fund 50% of mainstream media TV spending, which is now saying that Ozempic has to be the answer.
00:35:59.000And they're actually saying you're anti-science if you talk about diet and lifestyle.
00:36:21.000You are anti-science if you talk about exercising.
00:36:23.000You're anti-science about asking why we're getting sick.
00:36:26.000It is following the science to jab and drug ourselves.
00:36:30.000And the last, the stakes here, Russell, are, you know, our human capital is being depleted and it's not working drugging the problem.
00:36:37.000I mean, the more statins we prescribe, the more heart diseases going up, the more metformin we prescribe, the more diabetes is going up.
00:36:42.000We're getting more and more depressed as we take more antidepressants.
00:36:45.000So I just think it's the moral clarity.
00:36:49.000It's the ability to go up against this monolithic, powerful system that's kind of created our rules and be able to say enough is enough.
00:36:59.000And I think, again, whatever you think of them, Donald Trump and RFK are the two candidates in our lifetime who have that understanding of these dynamics and have the courage potentially to go after it.
00:37:30.000I would say that when you have something as serious and significant as the type of cancer increases that we're currently experiencing, that too is a sort of seismic challenge that needs to be addressed.
00:37:46.000Do you think that there's a danger, Callie?
00:37:49.000I'm looking at you, Callie, now in the screen, guys.
00:37:51.000Let's leave Callie in there and then just keep The pips in this monitor, if you could manage that in the gallery.
00:37:56.000Is that possible for you or is that something you're struggling with, guys?
00:37:59.000Just let me know on microphone now if you don't mind.
00:38:02.000No, let me know if it's possible, or using your language in the microphone.
00:38:30.000So, with something as significant as these radical cancer increases, Kali, I wonder, mate, if you consider it a possibility that recent medical interventions during the pandemic period have contributed to this extraordinary rise.
00:38:44.000I know that it's been taking place over decades rather than years, but do you think it's possible that these somewhat untried medications have potentially contributed to increased cancers, and in particular what have been called turbo cancers?
00:38:59.000Well, there's a couple dynamics to unpack here.
00:39:02.000Cancer rates, as you said, are at their highest rate in history in 2024 and they're skyrocketing among kids.
00:39:09.000The New York Times recently had a front page headline that said cancer rates are exploding among children.
00:39:17.000And I've never been, you know, if you told me 15 years ago as a conservative lobbyist that I'd be talking about nutrition, I would have said, you know, you're crazy.
00:39:26.000You know, but fundamentally these are very basic things.
00:39:29.000We're eating food that Monsanto has lobbied and literally they have their lobbyists running big parts of the FDA with glyphosate and other chemicals that clearly are tied to cancer and other issues.
00:39:40.000You know, we have thousands of chemicals in our food that are very unknown, that are very
00:40:11.000Our ultra-processed food consumption has gone up from 20% to 70% in a generation.
00:40:18.000We have just chronic stress with our phones, especially that we give our kids.
00:40:23.000We're sleeping an hour less than we did just 50 years ago where we're so sedentary that 78% of American 21 year olds aren't eligible to join the military.
00:40:32.000You know, we've got basic dynamics that are just demonstrably hurting ourselves, and it's very damaging to the existing healthcare system to point out these simple facts.
00:40:43.000What the healthcare system does, and we talk about in the book, is, you know, my sister, the first day of Stanford med school, she's trained that Americans are lazy, and that they're going to get sick, and that the medical system treats people once they're sick.
00:40:56.000That is a very profitable idea, right?
00:40:58.000But you have to understand that everyone in healthcare just accepts that we get sick.
00:41:19.000Pancreatic cancer is as tied to diabetes, which she had, and blood sugar decirculation as smoking is to lung cancer.
00:41:25.000You can really tie cancer rates to what we're eating and other, you know, issues like diabetes.
00:41:30.000We don't even have curiosity about that.
00:41:32.000So that's the radical shift that is really resonating on both sides of the aisle.
00:41:39.000But particularly with Trump and RFK, it's not about lecturing people about eating healthier or exercising, but a doctor when they're sitting across the table from somebody with high cholesterol, with high blood sugar, with that first sign of an issue, There's a huge moment where does that doctor prescribe a drug or does the doctor talk about what's actually underlying happening in that patient's body.
00:42:02.000If we shifted to a system where that doctor is actually spreading curiosity about the underlying causes of that disease, we're both going to feel better today but we're also going to prevent diseases like cancer and dementia which is a form of diabetes to Truly, it's called type 3 diabetes.
00:42:23.000But again, Russell, that is a threat to the largest and fastest growing industry in the country, the healthcare industry, which has completely bought off the Uniparty.
00:42:33.000How extraordinary that the alarming performance that we saw from Joe Biden in those debates is in some ways a consequence of the kind of systems when it comes to nutrition and regulation that he is in fact the epitome of.
00:42:54.000Your book, and the incredible success of your book, debuting, I think, at number one on the New York Times, but also on Amazon, that you wrote, as you've mentioned, in conjunction with your sister, Dr. Casey Means.
00:43:05.000I suppose the success of that book is an indication that there's an incredible appetite for truth, and that's not the kind of truth that's easy to get anymore within the establishment.
00:43:15.000For all of its kind of vanguardia in its rhetoric, it's an incredibly conservative ...organization by nature, that the function of the legacy media is to prevent real...
00:43:29.000The function of the establishment is to ensure that power remains constricted and manageable, that the kind of interests that you've spent the last 20 minutes describing to us aren't challenged by the only force that could ever truly challenge them, a well-informed population armed with the facts and willing to oppose the narratives that we're currently dealing with.
00:43:53.000I'm interested to get your take, Kali, on the rise in interest in not only psychedelics, but also MDMA.
00:44:02.000And when we were mucking around on YouTube earlier, you mentioned ketamine.
00:44:07.000Are these mental health drugs or psych drugs and new emergent potential solutions part of a new conversation that could similarly affect the profits and of Big Pharma.
00:44:25.000Is it possible that the truth is being withheld when it comes to the efficacy of the medications we're currently prescribed and these new and emergent medications?
00:44:36.000Well, I'm glad you brought up psychedelics as I'm wearing my blue sports coat.
00:44:39.000I like to talk about this not with my shaman outfit, but looking like a conservative nerd, because I do think this is a very important bipartisan issue.
00:44:48.000And I'm talking a lot to people on the right and the left about this, because I think the coming wave of Psychedelics, which has always been kind of a dominion of the left, is actually being seen now as a bipartisan, even a rightward, a lot of people embracing issue.
00:45:06.000And just to set the table, I think this is actually gets the core of what's wrong with our health care system and is a extremely important societal dynamic.
00:45:15.000So my main issue, my main message is that in America particularly, we're not getting to the root cause.
00:45:22.000$4.5 trillion of healthcare is spent on managing disease once people are sick.
00:45:26.000Fundamentally, just as a simple statement of economic fact, a child that gets sick, depressed, that is eventually infertile, is overweight, that's a very profitable patient for the system because there's a lot of conditions to manage and American in fear is easy to control and very profitable.
00:45:45.000Again, that's just a simple statement of economic fact.
00:45:47.000Now, depression is the biggest of them all, of health issues.
00:45:52.00025% of women are on a mental health medication right now.
00:45:55.000We're really struggling in the United States with meaning and mental health.
00:45:59.000But that predominant method, the SSRIs, fundamentally numb you out from reality and they don't cure.
00:46:06.000The science and psychedelics are profound.
00:46:09.000In one therapy session, a high-dose psilocybin therapy session, people see dramatic remissions in PTSD, depression, And how does that happen?
00:46:18.000According to the research, and my personal experience is the most impactful experience of my life of therapeutic psychedelic sessions and sent me in my entire trajectory, it helps you get to the root cause of your trauma.
00:46:29.000It helps you see the world and issues that were holding you back from a different dimension in a different way and kind of outside of the ruts that we all have.
00:46:37.000That's fundamentally what the experience and what this medication does.
00:46:41.000That is very disruptive for the medical system because a one-time treatment that helps you get to the root cause is not the business model.
00:46:48.000The business model is numbing symptoms and recurring revenue.
00:46:52.000So the industry, the mental health industry, the pharma industry is actually using every trick in the book To delegitimize this research and stop FDA approval, even though across the board, literally without exception, the doctors who've studied this at Johns Hopkins and Harvard and other institutions have said it's the most promising mental health research of their careers.
00:47:35.000It really makes sense when you zoom out into the big picture like that.
00:47:41.000I was listening to you and paying very close attention, but also thinking that the systems that are being suggested by the nature of the problem are decentralized and localized systems of food production that wherever possible you should be eating food that's grown reared or hunted as close as possible as to where it will ultimately be
00:48:07.000And the impact of that would be devastating, decimating to big food and ultimately big pharma.
00:48:13.000Because when you start talking about psychedelics ultimately operating as a kind of opportunity to have a psychological, and maybe even perhaps more appropriately, spiritual reset, you're starting to approach what we're dealing with here.
00:48:28.000People are being treated as kind of blobs on a conveyor belt, as you said.
00:48:33.000Sick from childhood, medicated throughout their lives, continually consuming.
00:48:39.000It's clear that somewhere, Callie, and maybe you've seen them, there are charts and graphs where Americans are represented as numbers, where we require this percentage of the population to eat this type of food, or to be on this drug.
00:48:57.000At the recent JPMorgan Healthcare Conference in San Francisco, which is the largest confab of healthcare investors, they showed charts of the increasing depression rates of Americans and increasing obesity rates, and people gave a standing ovation.
00:49:11.000of people and investors and the pharmaceutical community cheers the fact that we're getting
00:49:17.000sicker, fatter, more depressed, literally, quite literally.
00:49:28.000It's about following the science and getting to the root cause.
00:49:32.000When it comes to 9 out of the 10 killers of Americans, from cancer to diabetes, to heart disease, to kidney disease, to even COVID deaths, these are fundamentally tied to the functioning of our cells and basic habits like what we're eating, how we're sleeping, how we're moving.
00:49:46.000And we are completely and utterly, you know, distracted by that fact from the medical system.
00:49:52.000Because a child that learns metabolic healthy habits is not profitable.
00:49:57.000But a child that's on Ozempic and STATS and SSRIs and Adderall, which is one molecule away from meth, which is prescribed to 15% of high school students in the United States, that's a profitable patient.
00:50:08.000Not only because they're racking up continued money from their recurring drugs because they're
00:50:14.000not learning the habits that are needed for health and they're going to just
00:50:17.000continue to be more and more expensive patients. So you have the USDA
00:50:22.000saying it's dangerous to farm your own food. You have the FDA saying it's
00:50:28.000dangerous to take psychedelics, psilocybin which is the safest drug out of
00:50:33.000all 20 drugs the actually an international body studied on side effects and
00:50:39.000addictiveness and and things like that.
00:50:41.000It's the lowest side effect, safest drug there is, and they're saying that's dangerous because it helps you get to the root cause of what's going on in your brain.
00:50:47.000You know, we're hearing that it's dangerous to drink raw milk, but find and serve kids Coca Cola, you know, you fundamentally have a corporatist uniparty doing the bidding of an institution.
00:51:00.000That just fundamentally wants us to be addicted and sick and.
00:51:07.000You know, from the top down, I think it's why I'll just be direct.
00:51:11.000It's existential that we have a president who communicates this issue, who understands that it's more than health care.
00:51:20.000Corruption is the issue that's going to bring the American experiment down.
00:51:24.000And healthcare is the biggest example of that.
00:51:26.000We need a president who understands that.
00:51:28.000And from the bottoms up, we need people to start checking out of the system when it comes to chronic conditions, when it comes to mental health.
00:51:39.000And I think people are flocking to that with books, with podcasts.
00:51:43.000And I think it's why there is such a war on independent media, because it's very disruptive to get these ideas out.
00:51:50.000There's clearly a correlation between the way that we are mentally imprisoned when it comes to the ideas that we have access to and the ideas that are inaccessible through censorship.
00:51:58.000And like you said, Americans are being denied access to their own brains and kind of external attempts to enclose and incarcerate us physically through various means and measures.
00:52:09.000I was very struck, Callie, by what you said.
00:52:14.000That's a pretty Terrifying, if catchy, offering there.
00:52:19.000And also I want to pass on a few of the questions and inquiries that have been coming through from our Rumble chat as well.
00:52:26.000Audrey DB said, how is veganism not environmentally friendly?
00:52:32.000Is veganism Veganism, there was a big push for that, fake meats, lab meats, all that kind of stuff for a while and we were like, what is your take on veganism and what interests were pushing for veganism?
00:52:43.000Because from Turbo1980 in the chat, I saw a whole list of names like Soros and Gates and I think he was relating it to issues around food and big food and the control of food at a global level.
00:52:59.000I wonder if there's any connection between those two ideas, Callie?
00:53:04.000So in the book we talk about how when we hear about a dietary philosophy, and my sister used to be a militant vegan and has evolved on this, but dietary philosophies are generally, you should be very skeptical of, and are tools of corporate interests to sell you something and not to improve the environment or improve your health.
00:53:22.000I think it's totally fine to be on a path of veganism as long as you're on whole foods.
00:53:28.000As I said, my sister was on that path and realized and brought some meat in.
00:53:32.000What we really realized and what I think is really the most important issue to understand is that we have to get back to basics.
00:53:38.000A cow that is raised on GMO corn feed in a factory farming situation, they are bad for the environment and very bad for our health.
00:53:48.000The things they're being fed with the corn and soy and things they're not made to eat actually changes the makeup of their body, makes that animal actually less healthy.
00:53:59.000A cow raised regeneratively, how cows have always been raised up until 50 years ago, actually is neutral slash potentially even positive for the environment.
00:54:08.000Regenerative agriculture is carbon neutral.
00:54:11.000So the key, I think, is getting back to basics.
00:54:14.000It's not seeing, as Bill Gates says, innovation as lab-grown meat and other way things and processed routes that our body, you know, is not made to handle.
00:54:25.000I see innovation as using AI, using technology to figure out how to get back to basics, to figuring out how to raise plants and animals together in a cohesive ecosystem, which helps the soil.
00:54:39.000You know, to figure out how to raise food that our body is biologically made to eat.
00:54:44.000Right now, ultra-processed food, the key ingredients are processed grains, sugar, and seed oils.
00:54:50.000Those are new manufactured ingredients.
00:54:53.000Just fundamentally, if we can You know, raise and feed our bodies with food that the way it's been made to eat.
00:55:01.000So I would just I really do worry about the vegan kind of agenda being a scare tactic to get us away from productively raised meat and really ecosystems with farming that are the way it's supposed to be.
00:55:19.000Yeah, there seems to be a war against farmers and an attempt to control agriculture everywhere in the world.
00:55:24.000Farmers are up in arms in our country, in yours, in India, in Sri Lanka.
00:55:28.000There seems to be some globalist movement to use environmental ideas to exert control on farming.
00:55:35.000As usual, we're being protected by these peculiar globalist forces.
00:55:39.000I wonder if you have anything to say on that subject and whether or not it aligns with Warren Buffett, who seems to have made a good deal of his considerable fortune by investing in addiction.
00:55:49.000Cigarettes via Philip Morris, McDonald's, Coke, Dairy Queen, but even he has cut ties with Bill Gates.
00:55:58.000How does this tie into this global agenda?
00:56:03.000So taking the first question, RFK speaks very eloquently about this, and Trump is frankly speaking more about needing to stick up for small farmers.
00:56:13.000But our soil in America, like what produces our life, but the soil basically puts nutrients into our food.
00:56:21.000A tomato in the United States has 70% less nutrients than it did 50 years ago.
00:56:26.000So, our farming practices have absolutely just robbed our food of its nutritional value.
00:56:32.000So, rather than getting into a dietary philosophy of vegan versus carnivore or these games that I think the system wants us to fight over, we got to ask, are we getting back to basics?
00:56:42.000Are we getting to good farming practices?
00:56:44.000Are we getting to pasture-raised beef?
00:56:45.000Are we getting to regenerative Because if we get back to how food is supposed to be grown and raised and ranched, you're inevitably going to be better for the environment.
00:56:57.000And if veganism is just a wrap on an ultra-processed food factory farming agenda, you should be very, very skeptical.
00:57:06.000Warren Buffett, I think, ties into this.
00:57:09.000And it gets back to my point on why we have industrial agriculture that's really biased towards ultra-processed food.
00:57:16.000Why we have this devil's bargain where the food industry is making us sick and addicted and the pharma industry is complicit in profiting.
00:57:23.000It's because Warren Buffett realized early on this point about a sick child.
00:57:28.000And I just want to make this clear one more time.
00:57:30.000And it's just, it's a statement of economic fact.
00:57:33.000A child that gets addicted to sugar, a child that gets addicted to ultra processed food, a child that continues to be, you know, sick over time and addicted, that is a profitable person.
00:57:42.000They're the greatest economic goldmine.
00:58:07.000Then, of course, he bought Dairy Queen.
00:58:09.000He bought See's Candies, which has actually been one of his best investments.
00:58:12.000He was the largest owner of Coca-Cola.
00:58:14.000He was the largest owner of McDonald's.
00:58:17.000So, you know, you can judge this morally however you want, but as an investor, he was a genius for over 40 years realizing that dopamine is a great, great tool and really making that connection between cigarettes and
00:59:20.000Well, listen, let me take that opportunity to say that he'll like love in our Awakened Wonder chat on Locals, for our members said of Warren Buffett, our dopamine is their gold.
00:59:32.000And I like it the way, even when you have very powerful individuals like that, In a sense, they're part of a system that rewards a particular type of behaviour.
00:59:40.000On one hand, the commodity that they're mining is within our own biochemistry, and the system that controls them is a sort of an economic superstructure within which they are just a particularly successful node that has to be occupied by someone.
00:59:58.000And it shows you sort of both from our perspective as individuals that we require a degree of control or at least a different type of focus and systemically there needs to be radical change otherwise you know you replace one billionaire or one globalist and another one will just pop up to take its place.
01:00:16.000Also, A Miller 24 in the chat says, I'm ordering Callie's book,
01:00:20.000Good Energy, The Surprising Connection Between Metabolism and Limitless Health right now.
01:00:27.000We'll post a link for that in the chat right away.
01:00:30.000And I wanted to take the chance here, Callie, to talk to you about lobbying.
01:00:35.000As we approach this election, in the 2020 cycle, the food and beverage political donations
01:00:42.000amounted to 56 million in total, and that was split 22 million to the Democrat party,
01:00:47.00029 million to the Republican party, roughly 50-50, more or less.
01:00:51.000And when it came to Big Pharma in the last election cycle, there was 80 million spent on lobbying, that is.
01:00:58.00050 million of that went to the Dems and 29 to the Republicans, so just under 80.
01:01:03.000So again, this is sort of kind of a systemic stranglehold that's pretty prohibitive and I hope that you're right about Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump, that these anti-establishment figures who certainly in their discourse understand that most people are, well both literally but also psychologically, sick of of these systems are a significant part of the electorate and we all actually really want change.
01:01:31.000And the kind of change that you're talking about would kind of mean the breaking up of big food, the breaking up of big pharma, the ability of people to eat good local food, become healthier and stronger and more awakened.
01:01:45.000I mean, that is a radically different America, a radically different world, isn't it?
01:01:50.000I think it's an embrace of American principles.
01:01:52.000I mean, what I think is resonating when I talk to folks on the right, when I talk to folks on the left, is that it's not about slanting Americans to eat healthy or exercise.
01:02:01.000It's just following the science and correcting incentives.
01:02:04.000I don't think Americans are trying to kill themselves.
01:02:07.000You know, my mom who died early, you know, and had diabetes.
01:02:11.000High cholesterol that eventually got the pancreatic cancer.
01:02:13.000I can tell you she wanted to live and I think most Americans who have diabetes heart disease cancer We're kind of lied to right that that everyone's trying to get sick that we can't really help it You know when there's epidemic cancer rates epidemic autoimmune condition rates epidemic obesity rates.
01:02:27.000There's really a systemic problems I'm a personal responsibility guys, you know Russell but like when when it's the majority of the American people are getting sick all at once I think you've got to look at the system and incentives and Yeah, but you are right.
01:02:43.000We're not living in a capitalist society right now.
01:02:46.000We're living in a cryptocracy where corporate interests are completely slanting our institutions, as you point out every day, from the military, from education to health.
01:02:55.000Our big institutions are not producing safety, they're not producing educated children, they're not producing healthy Americans.
01:03:02.000They've been co-opted because they're jobs programs and there's a lot of corruption that's not in the interest those industries are supposed to serve.
01:03:09.000So yeah, unpacking this incentive is going to be really, really disruptive.
01:03:16.000Unpacking the devil's bargain between food and healthcare is going to cause short-term economic dislocation.
01:03:22.000These are the most employed industries in the country.
01:03:25.000But I would just argue, given the rates of sickness, given how health care spending is going to bankrupt our country, given the, I could tell you, I don't know if it's the same case in the UK, but going into a classroom for my young child and looking at, it's not a good feeling.
01:03:41.000Nobody feels like what's happening with kids is on a good trajectory.
01:03:44.000So when are we going from the top down to say enough?
01:03:49.000And when are politicians going to increasingly realize that channeling what you're talking about, that channeling what Joe Rogan's talking about, that channeling what the most popular books are talking about, that channeling where Americans are gravitating towards is questioning our institutions and questioning why we're getting sick.
01:04:04.000And there's huge political resonance in unpacking that.
01:04:09.000Man, we've got a few more inquiries from the chat that I'd love to pass your way.
01:04:39.000So, I am pretty cynical about why, you know, let's just call the fact of fact, why Bill Gates is buying up more farmland than any human who's ever existed.
01:04:52.000Why George Soros is so interested in our food and water systems.
01:04:57.000Why there's such a push from elite systems to push us into an ultra processed food system.
01:05:02.000You know, and why water politics, you know, are such an interest of the elites.
01:05:08.000If you control the food, you control the people.
01:05:13.000And I think when big corporations and elites are buying up our farmland and really controlling our water supply, which is what's happening, I think that should be a big concern.
01:05:24.000I do think, given how concentrated our farming system is becoming and how Low resilient, it's becoming as we're becoming more of a industrial farming and not having small farmers anymore.
01:05:37.000I think that we are on the verge of a food or water crisis.
01:05:41.000And I think that's a really good question on the vitamin B12 to cancer.
01:05:45.000I just can't stress this enough and this is why this book is resonating.
01:05:48.000A book I'm proud to say has outsold Dr. Fauci's new book.
01:05:52.000I think Americans are gravitating towards messages of empowerment.
01:05:58.000And the key point here is that cancer is a preventable condition tied to food.
01:06:04.000And there's steps you can take and through my sister's genius, there's really tactical step-by-step actions.
01:06:12.000With the key point that actually feeling better today, reversing your anxiety, sleeping better, steps you take to feel better today, can demonstrably and significantly lower your chances of getting a life-threatening disease like cancer down the road.
01:07:02.000We'll post a link to your book on the chat and to all of our social media sites because it's no obligation at all to support your brilliant and informative work.
01:07:12.000I'm hoping that we can do more together going forward and form a kind of alliance that eventually becomes a revolutionary force that takes over... We don't take over the world, I don't want any power.
01:07:22.000We create templates that other people can use to take over their communities and then we can just sit back and enjoy our dotage eventually.
01:08:12.000I think with Kali, a lot of important subjects were raised.
01:08:15.000They all seem to me to point towards individual awareness and the local ability to be in charge of our resources.
01:08:23.000And perhaps even the word resources is one we should examine if we truly want to have a symbiotic relationship with this planet and the Lord our God.