In this episode of Stay Free With Russell Brand, host Russell Brand sits down with activist, whistleblower, insider, and activist against Big Food and Big Pharma, Callie Means. In this episode, they discuss: 1. Why Big Food is trying to kill your kids 2. How Big Pharma benefits from obesity and diabetes 3. Why baby food is being pushed by Big Food 4. Big Food s role in funding Legacy Media 5. Big Pharma s influence on the media 6. What is the role of Big Food in our children s lives? 7. How can we stop Big Food from killing our children? 8. What does Big Food have in common with Big Pharma and Big Food? 9. Why is Big Food pushing baby food and pesticides on our kids? 10. What are the dangers of pesticides and baby food? 11. Why should we be worried about them? 12. What s the best way to prevent obesity? 13. How do we know if our kids are being poisoned? 14. What can we do about it? 15. What should we do? 16. Is there a solution? 17. What do we need to do to stop this epidemic? 18. What kind of food is safe for our kids to eat? 19. Is it safe for them to eat or not to eat, and can they grow enough? 22. How should we know what they should be eating, and what are the best foods to eat if they're going to have enough calories and exercise enough to sustain a good night in the long enough to stay fertile? And so they won t get enough vitamins and minerals in their bodies? and so on, and so they can have enough vitamins, minerals, minerals and fibre, etc., etc. Don t miss it! Stay Free with Russell Brand! - Russell Brand - Stay Free, stay free, stay Free, and stay free! and stay tuned for more episodes in the coming weeks! Subscribe to stay free. - The Awakening Wonder Podcast, stay woke! . . . - Thank you for listening to this episode? - RATE/SUBSCALIVE, RUMBLE, RATE, Subscribe, Share, Retweet, and subscribe to our podcast, and let us know what you think of this episode is your favorite podcast? We'll be listening to us on Apple Podcasts!
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00:02:41.000But because we've got Callie Means on today, who's a whistleblower, insider,
00:02:45.000an activist against Big Food and Big Pharma, who will reveal to you information
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00:02:53.000of your children getting diabetes, might, if you're male,
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00:03:16.000We'll be teaching you a little bit more about that over coming weeks in this conversation as well.
00:03:20.000We'll be talking about the pharmaceutical industry and Big Food's role in funding Legacy Media.
00:03:25.000Kali is, of course, the founder of TrueMed, a company that enables tax-free spending on food and exercise.
00:03:31.000Simple things that might change and save your life.
00:03:33.000He's also the co-author with his sister of Good Energy, which is coming out next year and available for pre-order.
00:03:39.000There's links in the description for that.
00:03:40.000We talk about a Zen pic, which you'll love hearing about and how they're pushing that on kids now.
00:03:45.000One industry fattens them up, another industry benefits from their diabetes.
00:03:49.000We'll be talking about baby foods and pesticides, a little bit about Bill Gates and the emergence of independent media and independent voices, as well as some stuff that relates to me personally.
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00:06:16.000What I'm consistently hearing behind closed doors is that people are getting wind that this is the biggest issue in the country.
00:06:25.000I mean, among kids, puberty among American children is starting like years earlier.
00:06:31.000Now, literally, 70-year-olds are growing breasts at an alarming rate.
00:06:37.000We're literally dragging puberty down because all the hormones and all the toxins in our food are changing our biology.
00:06:44.000Infertility is skyrocketing in the country.
00:06:46.000We're literally, and this is pronounced happening in America, but happening around the developed world, We're losing our ability to reproduce, to commit our main evolutionary function.
00:06:59.000Male sperm count is down 50% in the past generation.
00:07:03.000And obviously, the chronic diseases among Americans, but particularly among children with You know, the most staggering statistic we've talked about a lot, 33% of teenagers having prediabetes.
00:07:13.000I mean, this is the biggest issue in the country.
00:07:15.000But I will tell you, members of Congress are very frustrated.
00:07:18.000You know, back to my days, early days as a working for the pharma industry, They're being bombarded with study after study saying ultra processed food is good.
00:07:28.000They're bombarded with study after study and threat after threat about ruining their political careers if they go against the status quo.
00:07:34.000So they're really, really figuring out what to do.
00:07:36.000And I think where there's a potential hope here, Russell, is you look at the polling in America and actually, you know, the two outside candidates who I would say actually are basing their campaigns on tearing up this corrupt system, particularly the healthcare system, are RFK and Donald Trump.
00:07:54.000I mean, they're polling over 60% in a general election.
00:07:57.000So whatever you think of those two candidates, there's clearly an appetite of Americans.
00:08:01.000And I would argue Obviously, RFK, the most popular politician among independents and among women in America.
00:08:08.000And if you listen to Donald Trump increasingly talking about figuring out what's going on with childhood health, with pharma, with food, actually talking about that a lot, you actually have the two campaigns that are getting the majority of support in the country really staking the message to a large degree on figuring out what's going on.
00:08:28.000But we need that national leadership because members of Congress feel very stuck.
00:08:33.000Yes, it sounds like at least there is an appetite within the system for change and I suppose I've always suspected that the individuals within our institutions are not uniformly bad.
00:08:46.000It's just there's a kind of a magnetism towards the type of interest that you've described being expressed through what I would characterize as corrupt studies that are clearly tendentious and an ongoing inability to challenge the systems of power
00:09:05.000that undergird our public systems of democracy. The food industry, I suppose, because it's ubiquitous,
00:09:14.000has avoided the kind of scrutiny, or at least the kind of deeply critical, directed scrutiny
00:10:00.000And as with other powerful industries that seem to have undue influence in American political life, like Big Pharma, like the military-industrial complex, we were just talking just now about UFOs, and with the retrieval of extraterrestrial spacecraft, the CIA hand them over to Lockheed Martin, it's been reported.
00:10:19.000So even when there's extraterrestrial discovery, it falls into the Hands of corporations.
00:10:25.000Are you optimistic that change could indeed come in the form of candidates like Trump or RFK?
00:10:32.000And how important is it that we educate ourselves and organise ourselves?
00:10:37.000Because obviously this is something that's, you know, if it's 33% and 50%, you know, that's essentially affecting, you know, not all of us statistically, but by relationship it'll affect everybody.
00:10:49.000I think it's optimistic that people are catching on.
00:10:51.000So if you ask an average mother in this country what her number one concern is, it's that they walk into a classroom and clearly there's something happening with kids.
00:10:59.000Kids are obese, they're sicker, they're more depressed.
00:11:05.000Um, and again, going to the Congress, the micro level, the district by district, and you talk about the corruption, the NIH, the majority of grants that they fund in the past 10 years have gone to researchers with direct conflicts of interest.
00:11:20.000have gone out in recent years to folks, to researchers with a literally direct conflict
00:11:25.000against what they're studying, whether that be nutrition or whether that be pharma.
00:11:29.000And then what members of Congress are telling me is then the lobbyists from food and pharma
00:11:33.000come with those studies that have the seals of Harvard, that have the seals of the NIH on them,
00:11:38.000and slam them on the desk and say, if you go against, you know, this study saying that Lucky
00:11:43.000Charms that processed cereals are better than eggs, if you go against this study that's saying
00:11:47.000we've got to prescribe Ozempic, we've got to prescribe more drugs, we've got to prescribe
00:11:52.000and fund expensive Alzheimer's drugs that are relatively ineffective. That's the way
00:11:57.000we need to go to cure chronic diseases.
00:12:00.000And if you go against this, we're gonna Spend all the money we have to destroy you.
00:12:04.000That's literally what every Congress person is telling me, that there's direct threats where they're going to run ads in their districts, where they're going to pound the media, saying that they're killing old people if they go against pharma.
00:12:15.000When they get those threats, it's hard for that individual member of Congress to act.
00:12:18.000But what gives me hope is that I do think there's an incentive on a national leadership scale to talk about these issues, because frankly, it's resonating with voters.
00:12:26.000If you go to... I was at a playground with my young son the other day, and every child at that playground is eating ultra-processed food, which they're clearly addicted to, they're clearly obese, and they're on a treadmill of suffering.
00:12:39.000they're on a treadmill of pre-diabetes, of obesity, of more and more drugs.
00:12:43.000So I do think this is catching on, but it's really being spurred by a bottoms up revolution,
00:13:22.000If those questions actually start being asked, it's very, very disruptive.
00:13:27.000So there's a lot of opposition to this bottoms-up message.
00:13:34.000With your own son, what foods will you absolutely not allow him to eat and which foods do you allow him to have a little bit of?
00:13:41.000Because I've got young children and because I'm, I was not properly conscious and because it's easier, I allowed them access to things like, you know, some, they came back the other day from like a fair, they were eating like a blue dummy and like sort of like purple candy floss.
00:13:58.000They're eating, even the colours of some of the food they're eating tell you that they are, Not found in nature, and they're basically poison.
00:14:06.000How rigorous are you with your, if you don't mind telling me, your child's diet?
00:14:11.000Well, quickly on the addiction for kids, Russell, because I think no parent should feel shame.
00:14:17.000I think we have a system that's rigged against us, and it's powering to understand that.
00:14:20.000My dad, who you mentioned at the beginning, who loved meeting you, actually was at Stanford Hospital yesterday.
00:14:25.000He's fine, but he had to have surgery.
00:14:28.000And my sister accompanied him there, and she sent me a picture.
00:14:32.000And the picture was the entrance to the cardiology unit at Stanford Hospital and there were two Coca-Cola machines and a vending machine selling ultra-processed food.
00:14:41.000Now working for Coke, I actually worked with them to make sure that Coca-Cola machines were in pediatric wards and schools for young children.
00:14:50.000That was a huge priority for Coke and it was very clear and it was very enunciated in the meetings That we wanted to get these things in pediatric units and schools to normalize that for kids.
00:15:01.000You know, it's very hard to say that this is the root of all of our problems.
00:15:05.000This is the root of all the cardiology issues, the diabetes issues, all the obesity issues, all the issues we're seeing with kids.
00:15:10.000If literally as my son was being born, I walk outside the room in the pediatric ward in Arizona and there's a Coca-Cola machine.
00:15:19.000So there's a real effort to get your kids addicted and Russell, we've talked about this and all my knowledge of addiction, once you get somebody addicted and you get them addicted early, it's very hard.
00:15:32.000So I really feel for parents and kids that sugar by all definitions is a highly addictive drug and we're getting kids hooked.
00:15:40.000So I want to say first to parents, hopefully it's empowering, don't shame yourself.
00:15:45.000I think this is potentially an opportunity and it's an opportunity I'm going to work on Of educating your child about dopamine, about that our system is really rigged against them and to hijack their dopamine.
00:16:00.000And I think unwinding this addiction crisis, quite frankly, that kids are facing is an important conversation where we shouldn't feel shame, but really be working through this with our kids.
00:16:10.000If our public officials are going to let us down the three ingredients to your question, and I think the core issue in the country is the unholy Trinity.
00:16:31.000Is a weapon of mass destruction to blood sugar levels, you know, that's a new phenomenon really Russell just just putting that sugar.
00:16:39.000It's like an IV drinking it in liquid form particularly in fructose, which is a highly weaponized form of sugar, which is in most sodas right to the bloodstream highly addictive raises the blood sugar level.
00:16:48.000So that's a big issue and particularly, you know with a young child where I can control it, obviously no sugar seed oils.
00:16:55.000Industrial byproduct created by John D. Rockefeller 100 years ago, the top source of American calories, very inflammatory.
00:17:02.000There are omega-6 inflammatory fats instead of omega-3 fats, which we used to eat for all of human history, like olive oil and animal-based fats.
00:17:10.000Those are also make the food relatively addictive.
00:17:13.000And then grains, highly processed grains.
00:17:15.000You've got to ask why food is able to stay on a shelf for years and years and years.
00:17:45.000If you measure mother's breast milk, they've got glyphosate, which is a pesticide
00:17:50.000that we're putting on foods in their breast milk.
00:17:54.000We have tons of neurotoxins that we're putting in food because we have a completely unregulated market.
00:18:00.000When I was, you know, young and a conservative and working for these companies, I used to say, well, we don't want the nanny state.
00:18:07.000We don't want any regulations on these food companies.
00:18:09.000That actually was a perversion of conservative principles.
00:18:12.000What's a nanny state and what's a perversion of the free market is that these companies have gotten a complete completely free reign. They're self-policing, there's no
00:18:19.000oversight, and they're literally putting poison in our food. These people aren't dumb. They
00:18:25.000employ thousands and thousands of scientists to make our food addictive and make it cheap.
00:18:30.000Kali, before you answer the next question, which I know is going to take us into territory
00:18:34.000that's complex, certainly too complex for the censorship industrial complex that dominates
00:18:39.000the conversations that we have these days, I'm going to have to ask those of you, you
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00:18:56.000Okay, if you're watching this on Rumble, Last time we spoke about Ozempic, the purported weight loss drug and how popular it was going to be and that it was an unprecedented medicine and there's great marketing behind it and incredible projections behind it.
00:19:11.000Now, I believe, based on what I've learned from you, that it's being marketed at six-year-old children.
00:19:18.000So it seems like the partner to these devastating and addictive foods is a pharmaceutical solution that may yet even inflame the situation further.
00:19:29.000Let's go to that playground I talked about with my two-year-old son.
00:19:34.000Every kid in that playground, you go to any area where there's a bunch of kids, they are being poisoned.
00:19:44.000They're eating food covered in neurotoxins like glyphosate and colorings.
00:19:48.000We've allowed Our system to just lose its way and completely have, you know, moral blindness about what we're feeding kids.
00:19:58.000The reason for that is because the food system has interest in making food addictive and cheaper, but the medical system, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Diabetes Association, they haven't said anything as we've seen obesity and all chronic diseases skyrocket among kids.
00:20:13.000But right now, those organizations, those medical organizations,
00:20:17.000which are almost fully funded by pharma, they're being very loud.
00:20:20.000And they are saying in unison that Ozempic, a weekly shot that is required to take for life,
00:20:29.000that that drug should be the standard of care for obesity starting at six.
00:20:36.000They are pushing and doing research and actually pushing this as the immediate intervention
00:20:52.000And 80% of American adults are overweight or obese.
00:20:55.000So the second this is approved, and the second they're able to substantiate obesity as not something that's controlled by food or lifestyle, but something that's genetic, and let's be very clear, that is what doctors at Harvard are saying.
00:21:07.000They are arguing aggressively that this is literally not tied to food, that obesity is genetic, not under control.
00:21:13.000The second they're able to establish that, Doctors will be able to prescribe this drug for life, again, to 30% of six-year-olds, to 50% teens, and 80% of American adults.
00:21:25.000This is why Russell Novo Nordics just passed LVMH, Louis Vuitton, as the most valuable company in Europe.
00:21:33.000But what's interesting is that Ozempic is not... My message is very simple.
00:21:39.000When are we going to realize that if you have a dirty fish tank, you've got to clean the tank.
00:22:01.000And as we do this, our costs are going up and our sicknesses are going up and our life expectancy is going down.
00:22:08.000We've got to attack these industrial complexes.
00:22:11.000I will say the health industry has done a lot of good things in the past hundred years, but it's been co-opted.
00:22:17.000We lost our way, just like the education industrial complex and the military industrial complex.
00:22:22.000These industries that have done a lot of good are completely losing their way.
00:22:27.000And I think Russell, when you talk about optimistic or not, I'm optimistic that people are waking up, listening to you and others, but these are existential threats.
00:22:37.000If we let ourselves continue to get sicker, more depressed, more infertile, fatter, while bankrupting the country, that is the top threat to America, in my opinion, if you just look at the math.
00:22:50.000Yeah, you coined or at least you used the phrase chronic disease industrial complex and I suppose what was indicated in your last answer is we have a kind of broken psychopathic metric by which we measure our country's success as much as you might describe and outline the terrifying statistics, the diabetes, the Infertility, even the more diffuse and difficult to measure sorrow and despair that I sense is increasing across the world.
00:23:20.000Those are the harder things I guess to get accurate metrics on referring as they do to people's subjective inner experience.
00:23:28.000It seems that if that cannot be Opposed.
00:23:33.000And, you know, using the phrase industrial complex seems right because, you know, we've brought into play already the idea that it's beneficial, of course, for the food industry, because whilst it might be creating decline, it's also generating profit and addiction and an addict is a customer for life.
00:23:49.000The pharmaceutical industry is benefiting from it.
00:23:52.000One sense is that their legacy media are tied into these systems financially and ideologically in some way.
00:23:58.000the state benefits from passive and consuming citizens, is a very difficult thing to imagine
00:24:05.000breaking down, isn't it, Callie? And it requires probably, in essence, firstly, the recognition
00:24:13.000of the sanctity of the individual, the duty of the individual to awaken, and then some kind
00:24:18.000of organisation. Yeah, I had two moments in the past couple years that were powerful for me.
00:24:28.000One was early on during COVID when I hadn't really heard of Joe Rogan and there's just absolute vilification of the guy and I'm like, let me listen to this podcast.
00:24:41.000I turn it on and it's just time after time.
00:25:05.000We have what we need to take matters into our own hands and then Russell quite frankly at the Community Festival with with you.
00:25:11.000I have never been surrounded by more positivity.
00:25:14.000By people working on improving their lives, by people talking about their recovery journeys, by many speakers talking, you know, not in a mean way, but just in an empowering way, how to break free of a lot of the institutions that are profiting from us.
00:25:27.000We had a direct line to every editor in the country and we paid their bills.
00:25:34.000The pharmaceutical industry and the healthcare industry at large spends five times more on political donations and lobbying than the oil industry.
00:25:43.000They are the people that pay the politicians' paychecks, frankly, the RNC and the DNC's paychecks.
00:25:50.000And then tech companies, and then not even talking about research.
00:25:53.000Obviously, it's the biggest funders of universities and academic research, more than 50% of the funding for Stanford Medical School and Harvard Medical School, such pharma.
00:26:43.000These companies know how to attack and how to attack dirty.
00:26:49.000Yeah, you're describing an extraordinary amount of power.
00:26:52.000Thank you for your kind comments about community.
00:26:54.000I felt the same way, and obviously the recent attacks on me have been at points overwhelming and terrifying, and there are ways in which I've made myself vulnerable because of the, as I've described, the promiscuity in my past.
00:27:12.000But when I recently discovered that Moderna in particular were spying on me and hiring FBI agents.
00:27:22.000It's difficult not to see some kind of connection between the type of power that you've described and attempts to just remove voices that are anti-establishment by whatever means are available.
00:27:55.000Well, it started becoming weaponized when this became the largest industry in the country.
00:28:01.000Again, going back to talking to a Harvard obesity doctor off the record, she said she does feel uncomfortable at the wide prescription of Ozempic, but if they stop having obese people and more people don't get sick and more people don't get in their clinics as lifetime patients, she'll lose her job and she'll have to lay off a bunch of people in the clinic they just built.
00:28:18.000This is the incentive and it's an invisible hand that leads some bad people but a lot of good people to do things that are really not great.
00:28:27.000On the Moderna front, and Li Feng has been a champion on this, you know, I've been in touch with him and just incredible reporting.
00:28:37.000This came out in other email leaks that I mentioned with Dr. Fauci and Freedom of Information requests.
00:28:43.000But I think what's happening, and I saw this inside the room with Pharma, there's an idea that they are on the leading edge of helping humanity.
00:28:55.000And they've convinced themselves that the American people are stupid, that they need these drugs, that there's dark forces out there that are That are denigrating science and they are science.
00:29:10.000Remember Dr. Fauci, who is the greatest funder of the pharmaceutical industrial complex in American history over 40 years at his perch, doled out hundreds of billions of dollars in grants to pharmaceutical companies and was really the top of the pyramid there.
00:29:29.000And what they've been able to do, right, is because they're the largest funder of media, and because they're the largest funder of tech companies, to many degrees, Twitter back in the heyday, and because they're the largest funder of politicians, they have those organizations as their referees.
00:29:44.000So the media used to be a skeptical entity.
00:29:47.000The media, the government, frankly, used to be looking out for us, very trusted up until the last generation.
00:29:53.000These industries, these organizations that really control a lot of our lives, have moved from an oversight role to a referee role.
00:30:02.000They shut down anyone, censor everyone, threaten people, frankly, sometimes with legal action, certainly with banning and a lot of underhanded tactics to destroy people's reputation.
00:30:20.000Um, where you can't ask any questions.
00:30:23.000And I'm not a full anti-pharma guy, even.
00:30:25.000But, but I do think at the point you've been making, the point you've been making, the point a lot of people are making, this is a small part, it's a small part of the equation, right?
00:30:34.000Our metabolic health, chronic disease crisis, where nine out of ten killers of Americans today are directly tied to food and would be eliminated Essentially, if we cut those three ingredients I mentioned out of our diet, if we if we have a national reckoning on more metabolically healthy habits, frankly, like they have in Japan, where they live seven years older than us, and have five times lower rate of obesity, like this can happen if you have a national culture of health.
00:31:00.000But they see that as a threat and they see and they've convinced themselves that they're right, that they're doing the right things, that these pharmaceutical products are, you know, God's great gift to the country.
00:31:13.000And if you've convinced yourself of that and have all of the people in media and government saying that you're right because you paid them off, then any means necessary makes sense.
00:31:22.000If you're fighting really for science and if you're fighting for the You know, saving the country in their minds, then hiring FBI agents to do investigations to root out misinformation when the president right now and other, you know, leaders are saying misinformation is the greatest threat to the country.
00:31:41.000So definitely they do justify it in their heads.
00:31:45.000And if you justify that you're fighting for civilization, fighting for science, then they unjustify the means.
00:31:51.000Yes, and you said that the power reaches into academia, it reaches into the medical profession.
00:31:58.000With Lee Fang's excellent article, he talked about 45,000 medical professionals receiving coaching and training.
00:32:06.000And when you outlined the amount of expenditure by the pharmaceutical industry and the influence, whether that's political or through TV advertising, it's not insignificant, and academic research, it's not an insignificant amount of power that we're describing. These power centres
00:32:22.000obviously are what determine outcomes and direction and one of the trends that it seems
00:32:27.000that we're experiencing is that what globalists and these words that we use a lot in these
00:32:33.000spaces like globalism and corporatism what it feels like it comes down to is the ability to
00:32:40.000control your life or even your nation's sovereignty is moving away from the institutions
00:32:46.000that were once built to, as you say, serve the people, to these new organizations and
00:32:52.000institutions that are, you know, truly global, whether that's the WHO and I think it's worth for a
00:32:59.000moment looking at the kind of figures that operate on that global scale, most notably
00:33:06.000and obviously Bill Gates, who seems to be moving into the agricultural industry in ways
00:33:12.000that are surprising. Vandana Shiva has been explicit about his, the negative impact of Bill
00:33:17.000Gates, his ideas and expenditure in India, the damage that he's done in Africa, in African
00:34:18.000He's not a, seems like a moral person.
00:34:20.000I mean, Um, his ex wife has basically said explicitly the media hasn't followed up that he's done some very bad things with, with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:35:34.000And when I look at Bill Gates, who's making millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars from literally lab grown meat, he's preaching fake meat.
00:35:43.000He's preaching ultra processed food and denigrating the Gates Foundation is denigrating vegetables.
00:35:48.000He recently said that anyone that says trees help reduce carbon, which is literally their function, isn't practicing good science because he has hundreds of millions of dollars invested in carbon scrubbers, machines, which are literally just basically trees.
00:36:07.000So I think there's a lot of money in this, but what scares me is that that's going more of the same.
00:36:15.000Like technological progress in trying to create lab-grown food and lab-grown medical solutions to solve the issue that we're being poisoned by food is more of the same.
00:36:27.000What we have to get back to, what I think the most important trend of the next 10 years is called regenerative agriculture.
00:36:35.000Actually, if you don't have monocropping, you know what Bill Gates is pushing for, all this farmland is monocropping.
00:36:42.000It's one crop in the field where you have to use a lot of pesticides, the glyphosate.
00:36:48.000You need the glyphosate, you need the pesticides because there's no biodiversity.
00:36:52.000When cows were around the plants and animals are growing with the plants, that actually creates natural fertilizer and it creates natural pesticides and you don't need to spray the food with a bunch of crap.
00:37:04.000Also, regenerative farming has higher crop outputs.
00:37:08.000So, what I would say is we're losing our way of using technology to create meat in the lab.
00:37:13.000We need to use technology to actually figure out how to get back to basics, how to get back to regenerative method of farming.
00:37:20.000Maybe we can have robots or maybe we can have AI understand how to have better and better crop outputs with a more natural farming practice.
00:37:27.000But we're just not going to outhack this.
00:37:29.000We're not going to outhack getting sicker and sicker and sicker with creating more and more lab-grown food and more and more medical solutions.
00:37:35.000That is That is taking us on the path to ruin.
00:37:39.000So the best I can estimate, Russell, is that there's economic motivations here.
00:37:44.000I mean, there might be some dark, you know, distrust of humanity.
00:37:47.000Bill Gates has said, you know, he thinks we're overly populated.
00:37:59.000One of the unquestioned ideologies that governs much activity on our planet is this idea of progress, that we are progressing, that we are on an upward trajectory.
00:38:08.000And for many years, certainly in fields like medicine and technology, it's a story that's easy to tell.
00:38:14.000But you alluded to something there, Kali, that's important, that we have found ourselves somehow subject to these fields of progress.
00:38:24.000rather than deploying them for utility.
00:38:30.000The idea that we might use technology to facilitate a lifestyle
00:38:36.000judged by a different metric, a kind of a rather more, not opaque really,
00:38:41.000but just less observable than money, material, power and dominion.
00:38:46.000It seems like one of the common themes when we're talking about progress and advance, it seems like, as you just described, that we're only willing to try to move forwards, hacking in the same direction, more and more mechanisation, more and more profitability.
00:39:01.000No interest in the arcane, no interest in a kind of what is it to be human?
00:39:06.000How did we live for many, many thousands of years?
00:39:18.000I don't think there should be no technology, but we've got to ask what question we're trying to solve.
00:39:23.000Poisoning kids and then injecting a synthetic material into their veins every single week for the rest of their lives to keep their obesity ostensibly in check by paralyzing their stomach and destroying their microbiome and their gut, which is ozempic, It seems somewhat Orwellian.
00:39:40.000Again, you can ask questions of the technology.
00:39:43.000The issue with regenerative farming is that it requires a lot of labor.
00:39:57.000So it depends what question you're asking, but I think what you get to is that when you look at the largest companies in the world, they profit when we are confused.
00:40:28.000There's a war for our dopamine and we're losing right now.
00:40:32.000And I think this is all tied up because the one of the top sources of addiction and I think dopamine is our addictive food system and it's very profitable and there's a lot of interest to keep that going.
00:40:45.000And it's starting earlier and earlier.
00:40:47.000I understand that 40% of baby food contains pesticides that might be harmful.
00:40:55.000How do we become so disconnected from our own well-being that a sentence like that isn't from a kind of a sort of a DC villains manifesto but it's just sort of an ordinary statistic from the world we live in?
00:41:10.000Well, I think it's helpful to break that down from my experience.
00:41:13.000So you look at that statistic, it's like, where, where are people falling asleep at the switch?
00:41:17.000How are we losing our moral way so much that we have literally poisoned baby formula, which we do.
00:41:24.000And so actually, and I saw this in DC, the soybean farmers, so soybeans are one of the most subsidized ingredients.
00:41:33.000There is cornerstone of ultra processed food and there it makes soybean oil, which is actually the single most prominent fat used in the American diet.
00:41:43.000Soybean oil, you maybe people don't even know this term, but if you look at anything you're eating, you'll see soybean oil is one of the ingredients.
00:41:51.000And they have a very powerful lobbying group and they did a lot of fake research and actually lobbied Congress to require seed oils, to require soybean oil, which is often like has a lot of glyphosate and other neurotoxins in it because it's from crops that are sprayed with a lot of neurotoxins.
00:42:14.000That's required by law in baby formula in the United States.
00:42:19.000And that is why you have a massive black market of people illegally importing baby formula from Europe.
00:42:28.000So that, again, you look at the intentions here.
00:42:32.000Okay, the soybean lobbyists, they did a good job.
00:43:15.000So literally the people that you have creating the nutritional guidelines and overseeing our nutrition standards are paid for by those exact people.
00:43:23.000So that's where I think the moral blindness really reigns is that we in any world if we had the USDA saying this is wrong on the baby formula if we had Dr. Fauci saying that We would stop that.
00:43:37.000When medical leaders say something, we listen.
00:43:39.000We listened to the Surgeon General in the 1980s.
00:43:42.000Smoking rates plummeted when they finally talked out about smoking.
00:43:45.000Frankly, we listened to Dr. Fauci when he said to get the COVID vaccine, more than 90% of people got it.
00:43:51.000We listened in the 1990s when the government told us to eat more carbs and sugar and the food pyramid, which led to disaster.
00:43:59.000So if If the medical leader spoke out, and then a lot of times I hear from regulators, they're like, well, you know, that's going to be too expensive to tell everyone to eat organic.
00:44:11.000Their job is not to worry about the policy.
00:44:14.000The medical leader's job is to follow the science.
00:44:17.000Right now, we tell the kids, two-year-olds, that 10% of their diet could be added sugar because of the heavy lobbying of the sugar industry to the people making the nutrition guidelines.
00:44:29.000It is not the regulator's job to think about public policy.
00:44:33.000The health industry, the health leaders need to say the truth that we should not be putting seed oils and baby formula that's covered in GDMOs, that we should not be recommending sugar to two-year-olds.
00:44:45.000And then policymakers can do what they will of that.
00:44:49.000But the breakdown here is that the medical leaders are asleep at the switch and corrupted themselves.
00:44:54.000I can see that with the degree of education that you've accumulated and your ability to communicate and your great skill at tying together data with the outcomes and how it's come about systemically, your inside experience and your obvious passion, that if enough people were exposed to what you were saying, It'll be very, very difficult, I think, to not make the changes that you're immediately suggesting, many of which sound like simple common sense.
00:45:26.000Feed children healthy food that's grown or was raised near where they are to, wherever possible, use technology and science to support nature, combating anomalies within nature only when Necessary, and ensure that our political institutions are free from the influence of financial interests that appear to benefit in ways that are completely at odds with our individual and collective human experience.
00:45:59.000So you can see how, you know, I would imagine in time, Callie, the sort of information that you're conveying will be subject to censure, that it'll be difficult for you to... Do you get to communicate this sort of stuff Within what might be called legacy or mainstream media, have you received pushback yourself?
00:46:21.000So I have friends at the mainstream media.
00:46:24.000I used to work in DC and a lot of my friends went into, you know, the big guys that we all know.
00:46:30.000And I've been told explicitly that negative stories on the pharmaceutical industry And food are essentially off-limits.
00:46:40.000You've got to ask, right, if you really analyze what's happening in America and look at 25% of teens having fatty liver disease, 33% having prediabetes, you know, the just explosions of autoimmune conditions, allergies, ultra-processed food and denigrate natural food, hidden payments as an FTC violation, millions of dollars.
00:47:00.000Now there's congressional investigations and that.
00:47:03.000Lee Fang, But getting to Lee Fang and what's happening, the independent media revolution, I think, is on par of one of the biggest trends in American history.
00:47:13.000I think it's like, you know, Ben Franklin level and a real shift of how media and communication is happening.
00:47:21.000We've gone from a situation where there were a limited amount of networks Completely funded by the industrial complexes to a more disaggregated where the biggest eyeballs and ears are tied to people that have more of an independent voice.
00:48:44.000And thank you once again for your optimism.
00:48:47.000Almost everything you've said, I thought, oh, this needs to be broke up, put into a smaller clip and put out there because I think you're arming people with information that could change their lives.
00:48:55.000And based on what you've said about your recent trip to D.C., you're having an impact in places that can make a meaningful difference.
00:49:02.000Thank you so much for the work that you're doing, Kelly.
00:49:24.000She is the Dominant energy, I would say, in this movement, presenting a voice, a face and a power that could literally oppose the centralist, authoritarian, globalist agenda.