Stay Free - Russel Brand - “THIS Is The REAL Reason Kamala Didn’t Do Rogan!” Dana White On The Election, UFC And Trump – SF483

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00:02:17.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:02:20.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonderslap.

00:02:32.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand and what a special day it is because Dana White is on the show and he's going to be talking to us about, well, I guess, appearing at Madison Square Gardens.

00:02:41.000 He's going to be telling us about how he built the UFC from next to nothing or certainly a niche sport.

00:02:46.000 And he's going to be talking to us about this unique political moment now and whether or not...

00:02:51.000 On the 5th of November, which for British people like me is a significant day, look it up baby, will be a day for fireworks, explosions and change.

00:02:59.000 Or will we be on the precipice of something perhaps possibly terrifying?

00:03:04.000 Dana White will be with us in a few moments on the show.

00:03:06.000 If you watch us on YouTube, we'll be on that for the first 15 minutes.

00:03:09.000 But we want you to come over to Rumble where we can speak freely, where I can ask Dana White...

00:03:14.000 Anything at all.

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00:03:18.000 Awaken Wonders.

00:03:19.000 Remember, join us every week for Break Bread with Russell Brand where I have a Christian conversation like this one.

00:03:25.000 I look back on this road, Russell, and I go, I mean, you have a choice, victim or owner.

00:03:30.000 And I am so grateful that I have people around me to help me own it rather than point out.

00:03:37.000 Look in, and I've never stopped doing that.

00:03:39.000 So it frees you from bitterness.

00:03:41.000 It frees you from trying to, like, there's so much that I did that I can own.

00:03:45.000 That's where I spend my time.

00:03:46.000 And the stuff that isn't true, God's your defender.

00:03:49.000 He's your vindicator.

00:03:51.000 Time will tell.

00:03:52.000 And I've just, I've left it there.

00:03:54.000 So yeah, but when you said that I remember going man, it sucks to be lied about If you want to participate in that then join us there It's vital and important.

00:04:09.000 But let's talk to Dana White now because, you know, why not?

00:04:12.000 You've got Dana White available.

00:04:13.000 Let's talk to Dana White.

00:04:14.000 Dana, thank you so much for joining us for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:04:18.000 Thanks for having me.

00:04:19.000 Where are you?

00:04:20.000 Somewhere unusual.

00:04:21.000 I'm in Vegas, in my office.

00:04:23.000 From where he runs his global empire, from where he influences and impacts the world.

00:04:28.000 Dana, I'm so grateful to have this opportunity to communicate with you.

00:04:31.000 I've waited a long time to talk with you.

00:04:34.000 I've admired you for a long while.

00:04:35.000 You're a unique and fascinating figure in our culture.

00:04:38.000 And I suppose at the moment, while we're on the precipice of an election in your country, people will be interested in the fact that you have a pretty intimate relationship With Donald Trump, obviously there's more to you than that.

00:04:51.000 You've created a living carnival, a return to gladiatorial values.

00:04:56.000 You're an avatar of new masculinity or at least a return to traditional masculinity and the values that that might have.

00:05:03.000 You've been bold when it comes to the commercial space and commercial partners.

00:05:07.000 You're confrontational.

00:05:08.000 In previous conversations you've told me you never say anything unless you Mean to say it.

00:05:14.000 And I wonder how you see your story and your biography as aligning with where America is right now, in particular when it comes to authenticity.

00:05:24.000 So maybe we'll start there.

00:05:26.000 How has authenticity served you in your career and your ascent?

00:05:31.000 And can you give us examples, Dana, of where you think authenticity has served you and where authenticity has cost you?

00:05:39.000 Interesting.

00:05:40.000 Yeah, I think that, you know, we're at a day and age now where people know who's authentic and who isn't.

00:05:51.000 You know, I grew up in an era in the 80s where, you know, you would always have, whether it was sports figures or politicians or whoever it was, CEOs of companies reading canned statements that lawyers wrote for them.

00:06:05.000 That was never my style.

00:06:12.000 For instance, in my business, if you stay home Saturday night and pay $50 or whatever it is for our pay-per-view and the fight sucks, I'll be the first one to tell you that the fight sucked and it wasn't a good fight.

00:06:25.000 I won't try to spin it at the press conference.

00:06:27.000 I'll tell you you just saw something great.

00:06:30.000 I don't know.

00:06:31.000 It's just always the way that I have been.

00:06:35.000 Do you put that down to your background and the fact that you are a self-educated and self-made man?

00:06:40.000 Although, you know, people do argue that, you know, even if you are a self-made person, there are influences and there's been support and there's been advantages.

00:06:48.000 And in my opinion, you know, there is a God.

00:06:50.000 But I wonder what the relationship is between this authenticity that's uncustomary And your success.

00:06:58.000 Because I suppose the reason people are inauthentic is because they assume that if they tell people how they really are, either people won't love them or they will not succeed.

00:07:08.000 So what experiences do you accredit with the confidence to be authentic?

00:07:15.000 Yeah, well, the truth of the matter is, not everybody's going to love you, no matter what you do, whether you're authentic or phony.

00:07:21.000 Not everybody's going to love you.

00:07:23.000 I don't really care who likes me and who doesn't.

00:07:27.000 It's never been my goal to make everybody like me.

00:07:32.000 And I think, you know, you hear more people say it than just me.

00:07:36.000 If you're true to yourself, you can never...

00:07:41.000 You can never really fail in life.

00:07:43.000 It's like the whole cancel culture. 0.86

00:07:45.000 I've talked about this many times.

00:07:47.000 The only ones that can cancel me are the people that I actually care about.

00:07:50.000 You have a circle in your life of people that you care about, whether it's your children, your family, your friends, or whatever it is.

00:07:59.000 They're the only people's opinions that I care about.

00:08:02.000 They're the only ones who can really, I guess, cancel is a weird word anyway.

00:08:09.000 Cancel you. 0.99

00:08:10.000 I could give a shit what anybody else thinks that I don't care about. 1.00

00:08:14.000 I don't care. 0.99

00:08:16.000 I've been cancelled.

00:08:18.000 And I've got to tell you, the truth is, even though I thought I was a person that was very authentic and that I'm a person that's willing to say what I believe in, I've always, as a stand-up comedian, been explicit about the things that I'm into when I was a promiscuous, hedonist, single man.

00:08:33.000 I was letting the world know I'm all about that.

00:08:35.000 I'm not married.

00:08:36.000 I'm single.

00:08:37.000 I'm available.

00:08:38.000 I would say that stuff from the stage.

00:08:39.000 I love women. 1.00

00:08:40.000 And when I got cancelled, I felt like, wow, you must care what people think about you because I felt hurt and decimated and it really showed me that I was, to a degree, worshipping an image of myself and worshipping other people's opinions of me.

00:08:56.000 And now I care much less.

00:08:58.000 I wish I could have the boldness that you've exhibited, but I know that I'm getting made harder or purer or more authentic.

00:09:08.000 Now, I feel that your country is weird because one of the people that...

00:09:12.000 In some ways, I'm not talking about as a personality or in terms of morality, I mean in terms of someone that's built a carnival around themselves, is Vince McMahon.

00:09:23.000 Again, I'm talking about the ability to build something from nothing, not other aspects of Vince McMahon.

00:09:29.000 It's interesting that what Vince McMahon created was all about fabrication, narrative, storytelling, good v evil, American sort of pantomime, and how that's actually influenced American politics.

00:09:42.000 Sometimes when you watch either a Trump rally with Hulk Hogan or a Kamala rally with George Clooney or Beyonce or whatever, you realise people are really trying to access raw emotion, pure emotion.

00:09:54.000 Now what you've created with the UFC... It's, in a sense, comparable to, but in other ways opposite to what professional wrestling is about, in so much as it's about actual, raw violence, unexpurgated, like, not uncontrolled, I'm not so naive to say that it's uncontrolled, but it's about a sort of different level of authenticity.

00:10:15.000 What was it you saw in the nascent UFC, That made you, or did you even realize it would be a success of this magnitude?

00:10:25.000 Was that your vision, or was it just born of your own interest in it and passion for it?

00:10:32.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:10:33.000 I mean, it goes right in line with what we were talking about earlier, authenticity.

00:10:37.000 It's very authentic.

00:10:39.000 I mean, the tagline for the UFC when we first started it was, as real as it gets.

00:10:45.000 And, you know, not only in...

00:10:49.000 The pureness of the sport and the rawness of it and the fighting.

00:10:55.000 But also, you know, I don't tell these guys what to say.

00:10:58.000 There are no scripts.

00:11:00.000 You know, these are all grown men and women from different parts of the world with different politics and different passions and whatever it might be.

00:11:10.000 You know, you never know what the hell is going to be said at a press conference or on the mic after the fight.

00:11:15.000 It's, you know, Some of these people don't come from free countries, but, you know, you fight in the UFC. We had a situation with Tyron Woodley, you know, when the whole Black Lives Matter thing started.

00:11:29.000 Tyron Woodley came out and was at a press conference, and every question they asked him, his response was Black Lives Matter.

00:11:37.000 And, you know, then we had Colby Covington, who's a MAGA Trump guy, you know, on the other side saying what he said.

00:11:43.000 We've got guys from Russia.

00:11:45.000 We've got fighters from Ukraine.

00:11:46.000 We have fighters from Israel.

00:11:48.000 We have fighters from Palestine.

00:11:49.000 We have fighters from Australia.

00:11:51.000 So Canada, everybody can speak their mind here and everybody can be themselves and everybody who fights here can be authentic.

00:12:00.000 Do you then not intervene and allow the culture of the sport, in particular the stories that emerge around it in the way they do with any beloved sport, the characters, the victories, the losses, the vilification, do you allow them things just to happen?

00:12:18.000 And if you do, what is it when you sort of notice that someone is a star?

00:12:24.000 When you think, this person is a star, this person is box office.

00:12:28.000 There are qualities beyond people's physical attributes, even in athletics, that make them a beloved star.

00:12:36.000 In any sport, there are figures that emerge.

00:12:39.000 Excellence usually has to be a component because that's the entry price.

00:12:44.000 But have there been fighters that you've known were going to advance the UFC, advance the way it was going to be perceived, and that were going to break it out into new sort of dominions or markets or however you, whatever language you use for the expansion of your world?

00:13:01.000 Yeah, so basically the number one thing in being a star is you have to be good.

00:13:08.000 Let's start there. 0.76

00:13:09.000 I don't care if you're a deaf mute. 1.00

00:13:10.000 If you can fight and you're one of the baddest dudes in the world, you're going to be a star.

00:13:15.000 But if you have what Conor McGregor has, you're a great fighter and you have the personality or a Ronda Rousey or something like that, then it's just a home run.

00:13:25.000 But at the end of the day, the only thing I'm looking for is who's the best fighter in the world.

00:13:30.000 Yeah.

00:13:31.000 So the kind of the merits are very measurable.

00:13:35.000 I think that's what makes sport kind of sacred in American culture is there's so much subjectivity in politics and in culture and in life.

00:13:45.000 People are telling you that words have different meanings.

00:13:48.000 People are telling you that things have to be altered in ways that don't make sense.

00:13:53.000 New rules are appearing.

00:13:55.000 Old rules are being abandoned.

00:13:57.000 And in sport, for a limited amount of time, in a limited space, whether that's a ring or a sports field, things make sense according to agreed upon rules.

00:14:07.000 But it does fascinate me, the people that are able to transcend it.

00:14:11.000 Can you tell me, Dana, when was the moment that you felt...

00:14:15.000 Oh, this is no longer a niche or marginal interest.

00:14:19.000 This is something that's exploding into the mainstream.

00:14:23.000 Was there a particular UFC event or figure that made you realize you were dealing with a new entity?

00:14:29.000 When we did our Fox deal.

00:14:31.000 When we did the deal with Fox, that was when I knew we were there.

00:14:35.000 We were breaking into the mainstream.

00:14:37.000 Then as we started to go global, breaking into all these different countries and being on They're equivalent to a Fox or an ESPN at that time.

00:14:48.000 But once we did the Fox deal, I knew UFC was here to stay.

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00:15:10.000 Yeah, so in a way, even if you're working with something that is novel and new, it's when you are sanctioned by, or at least in partnership with, established old-school media or old-school systems that there's a recognition that you've got a seat at the table, that you're invited to the party.

00:15:30.000 Mainstream.

00:15:30.000 Yeah, mainstream media.

00:15:32.000 Yeah, you're in mainstream.

00:15:33.000 But now that mainstream is losing a lot of its integrity, and perhaps has lost its authenticity, do you feel that there might be a kind of shift in the power balance?

00:15:46.000 And probably some of the most obvious examples of that shift in power would be the rise of UFC versus old school pugilism and boxing.

00:15:55.000 And a relatively new sport like UFC, even though it probably is a reference to the oldest type of combat, I guess.

00:16:02.000 Gladiatorial combat, maybe.

00:16:03.000 I don't know.

00:16:04.000 I'm not an expert at all.

00:16:05.000 And the sport itself is pretty, as you said, as real as it gets.

00:16:11.000 And aside from the fighters and the somewhat transitory stars that come in any sport, because everyone has an expiration date, if physical excellence is part of the package, Joe Rogan is one of the defining figures.

00:16:24.000 I want to know how you knew, or did you know, that this guy was the right person to be the avatar and figurehead of the public broadcast aspect of UFC?

00:16:35.000 And what his rise tells us about the shift in landscape in media, where you knew that UFC was a success because of Fox or its international equivalents, and now those very media organizations...

00:16:48.000 if not being dwarfed by a figure like Rogan, are certainly being challenged.

00:16:54.000 No, you're absolutely right.

00:16:56.000 The mainstream media, the media as far as I'm concerned, is dead.

00:16:59.000 It doesn't exist anymore.

00:17:01.000 You have subscribers.

00:17:02.000 Fox has subscribers that want to hear what Fox has to tell them and CNN and MSNBC and all of them have subscribers who want to hear what they have to tell them.

00:17:11.000 Nobody's telling the truth anymore.

00:17:14.000 If you want to hear the truth or as close to the truth, podcasting is where it's at now, where you sit down one-on-one and you have these intimate conversations with somebody who doesn't have an agenda, who isn't trying to hit you with that gotcha moment, and then cut it up and edit it and make it look like somebody said something else.

00:17:36.000 The media now will use your podcast...

00:17:43.000 Chop it up 50 million ways and use it however they want to use it to say what they want to say, not what you said.

00:17:52.000 And Joe Rogan is definitely leading the charge in that world right now.

00:17:57.000 And it's one of the beautiful things about Joe.

00:17:59.000 I mean, even with the Trump thing, he invited Trump and Kamala to both come on his show.

00:18:06.000 Not showing favoritism toward either one of them.

00:18:09.000 And even recently when they put all the demands on her.

00:18:13.000 The reason that Kamala won't do his show.

00:18:16.000 It's because Kamala Harris cannot speak without a teleprompter. 1.00

00:18:20.000 And that's a bad environment for her. 0.99

00:18:23.000 Anytime you put her in front of a camera, it's a bad environment.

00:18:26.000 So I knew she wouldn't take the offer to do the show, but I actually think she's crazy not to.

00:18:34.000 Because Joe Rogan isn't one of those guys that's going to come out and attack her and try to make her look bad.

00:18:40.000 She can do that on her own.

00:18:43.000 You know, like, actually, he's a very respectful and kind person, and certainly in that environment, that's how I found him on the occasions that I've spent time with him.

00:18:53.000 And at the point that the Democratic Party are now at, I kind of wonder what they've got to lose.

00:18:59.000 But they must have calculated that they have stuff to lose in integral demographics in key areas.

00:19:05.000 And again, that subject of authenticity comes to the forefront, because my guess would be, That you knew that Rogan's a lifelong martial artist with a genuine interest in the sport that means he would, and I think at some point did, actually do it for nothing.

00:19:19.000 So again, this principle of authenticity will see you through.

00:19:22.000 When you're dealing with the Democratic Party trying to contend with media, you can almost look at the lineage and see how someone like Bill Clinton was a slick media operator and very likable.

00:19:34.000 One can't help but wonder how Bill Clinton would have got on in the Social media age with some of his, let's call them favourably, some of his oval office hobbies and his unique cigar holders, shall we call them.

00:19:47.000 You know, that's a guy that may have struggled in a social media environment to manage his reputation and his image.

00:19:53.000 Now you're at the point where they don't have A slick, on-screen media operator like Clinton.

00:19:59.000 They had Biden that surprised him by falling apart, and they had no choice but Kamala, and she doesn't know how to operate in the aquarium of modern media life. 1.00

00:20:08.000 That's plain and observable.

00:20:09.000 That's why they're using Obama so much right now.

00:20:11.000 Obama hasn't worked this hard in 10 years.

00:20:14.000 That's why they have him up.

00:20:15.000 If you looked right now, you would think Obama was running again.

00:20:18.000 That's why they keep putting him out there, because he is the guy who can speak well and...

00:20:24.000 She can't.

00:20:25.000 She cannot talk without a teleprompter.

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00:21:29.000 When you scrutinise it, though, even Obama, who is a brilliant media operator and communicator, Obama has to be held up alongside his record, which includes his handling of the 2008 financial crisis, the ongoing droning and foreign misadventures while he was president.

00:21:46.000 You can no longer hold up Obama and pretend this is the era of hope now.

00:21:50.000 And change and transition from the Bush-Cheney wars in Iraq type era.

00:21:56.000 We now know how that unfolds.

00:21:58.000 And what I find really hard to communicate to people and in a sense somewhat overwhelming is I think that since Bobby Kennedy has become a part of the MAGA movement, it's now more and more difficult to not acknowledge that what's happening there is more authentic, has more integrity it's now more and more difficult to not acknowledge that what's happening there is more authentic, has more integrity and is more open

00:22:21.000 It's become clear that what they're interested in is managing corporatist and globalist interests while sort of seeming likeable and normal.

00:22:30.000 But you're a person that seems to have had a relationship with Trump in particular for a long time.

00:22:35.000 And whilst Trump is continually accused, particularly by his detractors of being dishonest and being a liar and that, I get the sense that he has the same type of authenticity that's formed the backbone of our conversation for this first 20 minutes.

00:22:49.000 What's your analysis of why the phenomena of Trump is so powerful, how the Trump of 2016 succeeded, and why you believe, as I assume you do, that the Trump of 2024 will succeed?

00:23:03.000 What, in particular, is it about him?

00:23:07.000 Yeah, no.

00:23:08.000 Listen, Trump's one of the most authentic human beings you'll ever meet, and I've been friends with this guy for a long time, and I tell everybody that I come in contact with, and And interviews.

00:23:18.000 He's the best.

00:23:19.000 I love this guy.

00:23:21.000 He's a great human being.

00:23:23.000 And he is authentic enough to go on Joe Rogan's show for three and a half hours unscripted and talk about anything that popped up.

00:23:33.000 Talk to Joe or anybody else, you know?

00:23:37.000 And I pushed hard for him to do that interview because that's the setting that he needs to be in. 0.99

00:23:44.000 Every time he does an interview with the mainstream media, it's all the same bullshit. 0.96

00:23:49.000 And I knew that he and Rogan would sit down. 0.98

00:23:52.000 More importantly, I knew he and Rogan would like each other.

00:23:55.000 I needed to get those two together because I knew they would end up liking each other once they sat in a room together. 0.85

00:24:02.000 You know, if you look at how much Trump has been attacked over the last, you know, since 2015, just nonstop the way that they've tried to destroy this guy.

00:24:13.000 And he just keeps on coming.

00:24:15.000 He is one of the most resilient humans that I have ever met.

00:24:19.000 And the way that he is built And what he has to offer, he is who you want to be the President of the United States right now, right here, with all the stuff that's going on, not just in the United States, but in the world.

00:24:33.000 The scary part about, this is what's always fascinating to me, and how this is even real life right now is absolutely fucking mind-boggling to me.

00:24:42.000 Now, they have determined, after the last debate, that Biden is unfit to run, right?

00:24:52.000 He's the President of the United States.

00:24:54.000 What do you mean he's unfit to run?

00:24:55.000 He's the President of the United States.

00:24:57.000 And she's coming in and she's talking about all the change and all the things she's going to do.

00:25:02.000 She is the sitting Vice President of the United States.

00:25:05.000 The last four years is her administration.

00:25:08.000 And the fact that anybody can even consider voting for her and this administration is unbelievable.

00:25:19.000 And the scarier part is Who's running the country right now?

00:25:23.000 Who is actually running the country?

00:25:25.000 And the brilliant thing that I think is absolutely amazing, whoever it is and whatever's going on right now, they have figured out a way to slide Kamala Harris in here, right, without one person voting for her, because if they put her up to vote, There'd be another Democrat in there.

00:25:42.000 She would have never even come close to getting this far, right?

00:25:46.000 And if they can pull this off, whoever is really running the country right now will still be in power for another four years. 0.96

00:25:54.000 And the fact that this is even real life is absolutely fucking insane.

00:25:59.000 Yeah, that's a brilliant way of putting it. 0.97

00:26:01.000 It can't have been Biden in control when for years in advance of that debate, most commentators in our space were saying this guy is falling into senescence and senility.

00:26:12.000 It can't be Kamala Harris who's in charge. 0.99

00:26:16.000 So whoever's engineering and managing this situation, the people that make choices like get Bobby Kennedy out, Out of this party.

00:26:24.000 He's too radical.

00:26:25.000 He's too anti-Big Pharma.

00:26:27.000 He's too anti-war.

00:26:29.000 Get rid of that guy. 0.98

00:26:30.000 Whoever's making those decisions will still be in charge.

00:26:33.000 It's a very good way of putting it.

00:26:36.000 Isn't it pretty unusual, Dana, to find yourself in a position where you are brokering conversations between the former and potentially future president of the United States and this new I mean, that's...

00:27:08.000 Pretty much outside of the purview of an entrepreneur, a businessman, a person with interest in combat sports and martial arts.

00:27:18.000 How are you in this position?

00:27:22.000 How has this role emerged?

00:27:26.000 Good question.

00:27:28.000 Through the friendship with he and I. He called me and asked me if I would speak for him at the Republican National Convention.

00:27:36.000 10 plus years ago, whatever it was.

00:27:39.000 And everybody, I mean, everybody told me not to do it.

00:27:43.000 Don't do it.

00:27:44.000 He's not going to win.

00:27:45.000 Don't get involved in this.

00:27:46.000 And, you know, long story short, I did it.

00:27:50.000 And he and I became, you know, as close as could be.

00:27:57.000 And I truly believe the two most hated people in this world right now are politicians and the media.

00:28:03.000 And I am a big believer in, I think that traditional media is dead.

00:28:09.000 It's dead and it is dying, you know, a fast, painful death.

00:28:18.000 I'm a big believer in social media.

00:28:20.000 I'm a big believer in podcasts.

00:28:22.000 I'm a big believer in guys like you and Rogan, smart guys who speak their mind and aren't afraid of the repercussions.

00:28:32.000 We need more people like this.

00:28:34.000 We need more people who have a platform to get out and tell the truth.

00:28:39.000 And like you said, like this interview started, and be authentic.

00:28:44.000 Yeah, it's not an easy path to take always, and I wonder what personal consequences you've experienced, because that does, I was just remembering what it was like in 2015, because I can tell you plainly that when Donald Trump announced that he was running, right, I was already doing a YouTube channel.

00:29:02.000 I was very anti-establishment.

00:29:03.000 I was very anti-government, anti-corporatism, globalism, anti-war.

00:29:08.000 But I still, when Donald Trump come to the forefront as a presidential candidate, I was like, nah, this guy cannot win a presidential election.

00:29:18.000 And I was consuming the media that was damning and condemning him.

00:29:22.000 So me, I've learned since he's been in the public eye in this incarnation, like, hang on.

00:29:28.000 The reason they don't like this man is because he's a berserker. 0.77

00:29:32.000 He's a bull in the China shop. 0.77

00:29:34.000 They can't control him.

00:29:35.000 He's not part of those conduits of power that produce the kind of politicians that we've discussed and broadly agree are constructed, unreliable ciphers.

00:29:46.000 I think it must have been an unusual choice for you to have made that and a sort of a brave choice.

00:29:53.000 And I'm surprised by the fact that you had that insight and perspicacity then.

00:29:58.000 What was it about Donald Trump at that point that you liked?

00:30:03.000 And what were you basing that decision on?

00:30:06.000 Well, I liked him a lot, actually.

00:30:08.000 You know, we...

00:30:10.000 When we first bought the UFC, the stigma that was attached to this thing was so bad that venues didn't even want us.

00:30:17.000 We had a hard time getting into venues.

00:30:19.000 And Trump literally reached out and said, you know, think about it.

00:30:23.000 Trump brand at that time, UFC brand down here.

00:30:26.000 And I said, love to have you at the Trump Taj Mahal.

00:30:29.000 We ended up working out a deal, went down there.

00:30:31.000 We did two events.

00:30:31.000 He showed up for the first fight of the night and stayed to the last fight.

00:30:35.000 And then after that, everything that ever happened to me in my career Donald Trump would reach out and say, congratulations.

00:30:42.000 Donald Trump is a good guy.

00:30:44.000 It's crazy when you look at another thing that's Absolutely insane to me.

00:30:51.000 Everybody's talking about, oh my God, if he becomes the President of the United States, he's going to take away these people's rights.

00:30:57.000 He was already the President of the United States.

00:30:59.000 What are you talking about?

00:31:00.000 He's already been proven that he was a good President of the United States.

00:31:05.000 What do you mean it's the end of the world if he gets in there? 1.00

00:31:09.000 Another Crazy narrative that they're able to sell to really stupid people. 1.00

00:31:15.000 But anyway, Trump has always been a good guy. 0.99

00:31:18.000 He's a good person.

00:31:19.000 Comes from a good family.

00:31:23.000 His kids are all good people.

00:31:26.000 It's just...

00:31:28.000 When the machine starts to attack, man, I don't care how big you are, how much money you have, how long you've been around...

00:31:38.000 They come guns a blazing, man. 0.99

00:31:40.000 And let me tell you what, you realize in life, I always say this, when the shit hits the fan, you realize who's who. 0.99

00:31:47.000 And a lot of the people scatter, you know? 0.99

00:31:49.000 And I didn't.

00:31:51.000 He was always a good guy to me.

00:31:54.000 When he asked me to speak for him, I said I'd be honored to, you know?

00:31:58.000 And now, I mean, Trump is literally a very, very good friend of mine.

00:32:04.000 We are very close.

00:32:05.000 Yeah, I've seen him speak.

00:32:07.000 I attended the Republican National Convention with Rumble and I've never been in anything quite like it.

00:32:14.000 There were aspects of it that were mental and extraordinary and like a carnival.

00:32:18.000 And he spoke about you very, very affectionately and lovingly.

00:32:25.000 I figure he came on after you.

00:32:26.000 I think you introduced him and it was obvious that you mean a great deal to him and now I can see why because you've acted with integrity and authenticity and as a person that has indeed been subject to those kind of media attacks I can confirm that you're right.

00:32:41.000 What happens is People are terrified of that kind of power, and they're terrified that they're going to be contaminated, and they're right to be terrified, because that's the point of it.

00:32:50.000 That's how you know it is not legitimate, because if it was legitimate, during a pandemic, they'll be able to come and go, you know, we've not trialled these medications yet for transmission, and of course, you know, no pregnant women, for example, were willing to submit themselves to clinical trials, so you might want to be careful there, and it's possible that this pandemic was as a result of a mishap in a lab, but no, there was none of that.

00:33:12.000 There was lying and shaming and attacking and control, and anyone who spoke out against it was vilified.

00:33:19.000 What did you learn during that period, and how did it affect your business, the UFC, and how did it affect, what did you say, for example, to your fighters and the various numbers of people that you must be sort of responsible for, if you're happy to let people speak out, whether they're BLM or MAGA, how did you handle the position of being, I guess, to some degree responsible of what was a near-mandated Yeah, at that time, you know, I was looking down the barrel of, I have 650 employees.

00:33:49.000 And, you know, you have to start making hard decisions, you know, laying people off and making these cuts.

00:33:56.000 Some of these people that have been with me have been with me for 20 years.

00:33:59.000 So the UFC was this this rocket ship of success for many years.

00:34:03.000 And, you know, all these people that that worked for me, you know, we never really faced real adversity after we got through the early days. 0.96

00:34:13.000 And the first time the shit hits the fan, I'm gonna go out and lay off 38% of my staff. 0.97

00:34:19.000 There's no way that was gonna happen. 1.00

00:34:21.000 You know, I'm one of these guys that, this is America.

00:34:24.000 We don't roll over and we don't quit.

00:34:26.000 And if this thing's as bad as they're saying it is, we're all dead anyway.

00:34:29.000 I mean, I'm gonna go out fighting.

00:34:32.000 I'm not gonna go hide in my house.

00:34:35.000 Until the government tells me it's time to come out.

00:34:38.000 So that was never my position.

00:34:40.000 I never really, the whole COVID thing never made sense to me.

00:34:44.000 And even when I caught COVID, let me tell you what I did.

00:34:48.000 I was getting in my steam room, right?

00:34:51.000 And I sprayed some eucalyptus in there.

00:34:55.000 I didn't smell anything. 0.99

00:34:56.000 I said, oh shit. 0.99

00:34:57.000 I opened the eucalyptus thing and sniffed it. 0.99

00:35:00.000 Nothing.

00:35:01.000 I said, I got COVID. I got out of the steam room.

00:35:04.000 I didn't call my doctor.

00:35:05.000 I didn't call the hospital.

00:35:07.000 I called Joe Rogan.

00:35:09.000 I literally called Joe Rogan.

00:35:10.000 I said, I think I got COVID. And he said, get some monoclonal antibodies, take some ivermectin and get an NAD drip.

00:35:19.000 I literally did that stuff that day.

00:35:22.000 The next morning when I woke up, I had my smell and taste back, and I never got sick from COVID. Never even came remotely close to getting sick when I got COVID. So I was never believing any of the bullshit that the government was telling me anyway.

00:35:36.000 Then the other thing is our governor at the time, right? 0.99

00:35:40.000 I have my own arena next door.

00:35:42.000 Why can't I social distance and put on fights?

00:35:46.000 All I have to do is send out a transmission.

00:35:48.000 Governor wouldn't let me do it.

00:35:51.000 You could go to a restaurant, sit down, take your mask off, and eat.

00:35:56.000 And then, you know, leave and put your mask back on.

00:36:00.000 But we couldn't social distance and put on an event here. 1.00

00:36:03.000 So I was like, yeah, this is bullshit. 0.99

00:36:05.000 I'm going to figure this out. 0.99

00:36:06.000 So I started looking for an island or somewhere where I could go where the government couldn't mess with me.

00:36:11.000 And we ended up doing Fight Island and Abu Dhabi.

00:36:14.000 And we ran our business through COVID. We didn't lay off one employee.

00:36:17.000 And everybody got paid.

00:36:19.000 All the fighters' contracts were honored.

00:36:21.000 All of our Sponsorship contracts were honored and all of our television contracts were honored all through COVID. So, yeah, there was no way.

00:36:29.000 And at the time, Trump was the sitting president.

00:36:32.000 He put me on the...

00:36:33.000 He appointed me to the task force to try to get sports open faster.

00:36:37.000 And, you know, I ran right through COVID. Yeah, that's pretty interesting.

00:36:43.000 And it helps me to understand and see with yet more clarity that what the intention was in that period was to legitimize forms of control.

00:36:51.000 We live in this weird time, I think, Dana.

00:36:54.000 Oh, and by the way, Russell, New York Times attack me every day. 0.99

00:36:58.000 All the media attacking me every day that I care more about money than human life and, you know, all that shit. 0.99

00:37:04.000 All of them, all the media, you know, It's amazing. 0.98

00:37:07.000 And some of the people that I knew from the business, it's amazing how you can inject fear into people like that.

00:37:15.000 And you see how fast people crumble and fall and just fall.

00:37:26.000 Yeah, it's amazing to see that threshold go up, that tide, and the people that are like, whoa, I'm out!

00:37:33.000 I can't take this level of pressure!

00:37:35.000 It's extraordinary!

00:37:37.000 You know, I bet the New York Times haven't done any scrutiny on analysis if what they care about is people caring more about money than human health.

00:37:45.000 Have they looked into them Pfizer files?

00:37:47.000 Have they looked into myocarditis?

00:37:49.000 If they care more about human life than money, have they looked at what might be behind perpetuating the Ukraine-Russia conflict and who might be benefiting and who might be suffering?

00:37:58.000 And they call themselves journalists.

00:38:00.000 It's extraordinary, actually, to start to...

00:38:06.000 When looking, say, at the archetypal energy underneath these things, and this was also visible, I think, during that period, is there's an attack on not only masculinity, although clearly there is, and also femininity, although clearly there is.

00:38:21.000 There's a sort of an attack on the spirit of people.

00:38:26.000 We don't want spirited people that are going to go, there is adversity now, but that means we're going to have to fight.

00:38:32.000 That means we're going to have to oppose it.

00:38:34.000 We're going to have to come together.

00:38:35.000 We're going to have to make some difficult decisions.

00:38:37.000 They want a population of people that are like, what's happening?

00:38:40.000 Okay, should we do that?

00:38:41.000 All right then.

00:38:42.000 And a lot of people are exposed curiously, because I always think in your country, America in particular, people don't like being told what to do.

00:38:48.000 I don't like being told what to do.

00:38:50.000 I like the...

00:38:51.000 The only reason I've not had that shot is not because I'm a scientist.

00:38:54.000 It's because if someone tells me to do something, I don't like that.

00:38:58.000 I'll do things to help people, but I don't like being told to do stuff.

00:39:02.000 It bothers me.

00:39:03.000 It's always bothered me.

00:39:04.000 So I don't trust people.

00:39:05.000 In fact, if they'd really wanted me to take that vaccine, they should have just put a pack of them somewhere in my house and told me not to touch it under any circumstances.

00:39:14.000 I'd have gone there.

00:39:15.000 I'd have...

00:39:16.000 Took him up and down my arm.

00:39:17.000 But as soon as I knew, they were telling me to do it.

00:39:19.000 I'm like, hmm, I don't know about that, man.

00:39:21.000 So, like, a lot was revealed by that authoritarian position.

00:39:24.000 Now, given that during that pandemic period, also people weren't being told to eat healthy, weren't being told to exercise, do you think there's, like, an attack from, say, big food, big agriculture, big pharma, and the media in general, to stop people being, like, healthy and embodied and strong?

00:39:42.000 Like, they kind of want people to be weak.

00:39:44.000 And without leaders, it's almost like human strength itself that they're against.

00:39:48.000 Yeah, I mean, that's going deep into the rabbit hole.

00:39:51.000 But yeah, I don't disagree.

00:39:54.000 Listen, at the end of the day, when you talk about, you know, you were talking about, or I was saying, you know, the New York Times coming after me saying I care more about money and instead of human life and all that, all that crap.

00:40:07.000 Let me tell you what. 0.85

00:40:09.000 Big pharma.

00:40:10.000 It's very powerful.

00:40:11.000 And, you know, they have a lot of control over what goes on in this country.

00:40:16.000 And if you don't think that that is why the Democrats started attacking Robert Kennedy Jr., I mean, there's no doubt about it.

00:40:26.000 I have said many times, I met a guy named Gary Brecka three years ago.

00:40:30.000 Changed my whole life, you know.

00:40:34.000 And he got me off all the medicine that I was on.

00:40:38.000 I was on high blood pressure medicine, cholesterol medicine, thyroid medicine.

00:40:42.000 Now all I take is supplements and all of my stuff.

00:40:44.000 And my doctor that I had for years, when I first got on my high blood pressure medicine, I said to him, isn't there, could I diet?

00:40:51.000 Could I do this and that?

00:40:52.000 And my doctor looked at me and said, you can eat cardboard.

00:40:55.000 It's not going to matter.

00:40:56.000 It doesn't make a difference.

00:40:58.000 It's hereditary.

00:40:59.000 And you're never going to change this.

00:41:01.000 And when you really think about these doctors that go to school these days, they practice medicine.

00:41:08.000 That's what they practice.

00:41:09.000 They don't figure out how to fix things or make you healthy.

00:41:13.000 For whatever is wrong with you, they have a pill that's going to take care of it.

00:41:18.000 That is Is what's going on right now in this country.

00:41:21.000 And now it's spilled over into the food. 0.97

00:41:25.000 All the food that we're eating is garbage. 1.00

00:41:27.000 You know, you look back now as we grew up, when we were kids, the pyramid, the food pyramid was all a crock of shit. 1.00

00:41:36.000 You know, everything that we learned growing up was all lies and bullshit. 1.00

00:41:43.000 And it was basically fed to us by the government. 0.99

00:41:46.000 And then you start to hear, you know, about all the farmland being bought up and all these things that are happening.

00:41:53.000 And, you know, people need to wake up and realize.

00:41:56.000 After I met Gary Brecka, I mean, I'm 55 years old.

00:41:59.000 I feel better now than I did when I was 35.

00:42:03.000 And I say it all the time.

00:42:04.000 I will never go see a doctor ever again about my general health.

00:42:08.000 If I break my arm, I'll go see a doctor and get a cast and whatever.

00:42:13.000 Other than that, I don't mess with doctors.

00:42:16.000 Wow.

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00:43:26.000 It shows you really that someone like Gary Brecker, that's at the forefront of optimisation and longevity, working with someone like Callie Means and Casey Means, who are the forefront of food and the toxicity of food, administrating with someone like RFK under the leadership of Trump, Would indeed lead to breaking down of big food, big pharma, big agriculture, because that's a racket, isn't it?

00:43:54.000 What they were trying to do is make sure that medicine and health are regarded as pharmaceutical rather than a holistic field.

00:44:04.000 Where people should have their blood work looked at, should have their vital signs looked at, and then should be resolving health through nutrition, through exercise, through harmony with nature.

00:44:14.000 It's so weird that the globalists say, and by globalists I mean people like the Democrats under Biden or Kamala, my country Keir Starmer, Labour, Macron in France, Trudeau in Canada, All people that tell you that we're here to help you,

00:44:31.000 we're here to look after you, respect the planet, be kind to one another, be nice to one another, seem to sort of hate life, like want people to eat bad food, don't want an investigation into alternative forms of therapy and medicine and diet, don't elevate people that know a lot, whether that's sort of like Gary or Casey and Callie means, so that suddenly we've got a variety of information.

00:44:52.000 You can see now why that was a perfect storm, that pandemic period, and in particular when Joe Rogan gave not only advice to you about what you should be doing to respond to COVID, but to hundreds of millions of people, why they had to work pretty hard to try and take that guy down.

00:45:07.000 And the fact that the media were willing to participate in that shows you again the lack of authenticity and the type of dark integrity that they have between them.

00:45:17.000 Well, what's fascinating is, I mean, you saw the attack on ivermectin, right?

00:45:20.000 They started attacking ivermectin.

00:45:22.000 The problem with ivermectin is it's really cheap and it did work.

00:45:25.000 The other thing was monoclonal antibodies.

00:45:27.000 So after I did the thing with Rogan, I started talking publicly about the monoclonal antibodies.

00:45:33.000 And you could call like an IV company and they could give you monoclonal antibodies.

00:45:37.000 Then I noticed immediately those started getting harder to get.

00:45:42.000 They started shutting that down.

00:45:44.000 Anything...

00:45:46.000 So the greatest thing that's ever happened to me was the pandemic, okay?

00:45:51.000 It opened my eyes to a lot of things that I would have never known had it not happened. 0.99

00:45:57.000 I always believed in modern medicine and this holistic shit I used to call hippie shit. 0.99

00:46:03.000 Like the Gary Brecken stuff, I'm like, yeah, they're a bunch of nutty hippies and, you know... 0.99

00:46:09.000 Then once I tried it, met him, it completely changed my whole life.

00:46:13.000 And the whole COVID thing, all of that opened my eyes to the government, health, what's real, what's not real.

00:46:19.000 I'm not falling for any bullshit anymore after we've been through that.

00:46:24.000 Yeah, the COVID thing was an attempt, it looks like, in retrospect, to manage entire populations, to legitimize things like digital citizen management. 0.99

00:46:34.000 They'll start talking about centralizing currencies and digitalizing them, even though when Bitcoin come out, oh, Bitcoin is really bad, it's evil, it's bad for the environment.

00:46:42.000 Okay, can we get control of it?

00:46:44.000 Bitcoin.

00:46:44.000 Everything is about control, control, control.

00:46:49.000 Like, actually, the groundwork in UFC. Well, how about this?

00:46:52.000 Like you said with money, the money is probably one of the scariest ones.

00:46:55.000 You know, right now, we have paper money, right?

00:46:58.000 So I work...

00:47:01.000 I pay my taxes and I get my money, my cash.

00:47:04.000 I can do whatever I want with my cash.

00:47:06.000 I can give this guy, her over here, I can give them all a hundred bucks if I want to.

00:47:11.000 Once it's all digital currency, the government can watch and control every single dime you spend.

00:47:18.000 And all your money Sit somewhere in a system, some digital system that they can...

00:47:25.000 You saw it happen in Canada when they started shutting down bank accounts and doing things like that. 0.59

00:47:31.000 Now the whole anything over $9,000 has to be reported to the government and all this shit. 0.98

00:47:39.000 It's scary, man. 0.98

00:47:41.000 It's not good.

00:47:43.000 And I feel bad for this next generation with where this was all headed.

00:47:47.000 The pandemic might have been intended for bad, but it kind of worked out for good.

00:47:52.000 Because like you said, a lot of people have awoken.

00:47:55.000 It had a big impact on my political perspective, I've got to tell you.

00:47:58.000 And the same with social media.

00:47:59.000 It could be used for control, for surveillance, for censorship, but it could also be used for the opposite of that.

00:48:05.000 Mass transparency, mass cooperation.

00:48:08.000 We can start to expose that the government want maximum privacy for themselves, maximum transparency for the people of America.

00:48:15.000 When the reverse is what should be true, you should better see exactly what the government's doing with your money, and you should have total privacy, except in instances where you're obviously breaking the law, agreed upon consensual laws, I would say, in that instance.

00:48:29.000 So...

00:48:29.000 Do you have actual spiritual principles that underwrite your behavior?

00:48:33.000 Simply put, Dana, do you believe in God?

00:48:36.000 Do you believe in Jesus?

00:48:38.000 Well, where are you coming from when it comes to God?

00:48:40.000 Because when we're talking about authenticity, integrity, and having principles, it's, in a sense, what I believe the government wants to do is replace God.

00:48:51.000 And that's very easy to do if people don't have God.

00:48:53.000 I just wonder where you stand on that.

00:48:55.000 There's no doubt.

00:48:57.000 They're trying to attack values, is what I think.

00:49:01.000 They're trying to attack people's values.

00:49:03.000 I do not believe in God.

00:49:06.000 I wouldn't say...

00:49:07.000 Yeah, I'm probably an atheist, I would guess.

00:49:11.000 But I definitely don't know.

00:49:14.000 Nobody knows.

00:49:15.000 We won't know until it's over.

00:49:17.000 But I believe that death is the most final thing ever.

00:49:22.000 And we don't go anywhere.

00:49:24.000 And I actually believe that this is heaven.

00:49:26.000 I believe that this is heaven right here.

00:49:29.000 This is as good as it gets.

00:49:30.000 And you should live the best life that you could possibly live here.

00:49:35.000 But I don't have to believe in God or anything else to treat people right and be a good person.

00:49:44.000 And I don't...

00:49:45.000 I believe that whatever gets you through this life and whatever it is you need...

00:49:51.000 Go for it.

00:49:54.000 God or Allah or whatever your deal is to get you through life, Dana, you know I'm going to start praying for you.

00:50:05.000 At Madison Square Gardens, do you think that was going to be a significant and pivotal moment in this election?

00:50:14.000 And what was it like to speak there?

00:50:17.000 Did you think that what Tony Hinchcliffe said was super relevant?

00:50:21.000 And how do you contrast it with um what joe biden just said about trump supporters being garbage and importantly as jd vance pointed out that politico censored that bit of information when reporting on what biden said so was the madison square garden moment significant for trump was is it significant that it was in new york is it significant that it sort of seems to suggest that there is a different type of mega movement in 2024 than there was in 2016 as a person that participated in it What did it feel like?

00:50:50.000 For example, I heard MSNBC say, I think it was Micah, that it was a festival of hatred or something like that.

00:50:58.000 So I just wonder what it was like to speak there. 0.85

00:51:01.000 Yeah, I mean, that narrative is so ridiculous that there is literally... 0.81

00:51:06.000 When you go to one of these Trump things, there's no hatred. 0.94

00:51:08.000 There's no hatred there.

00:51:10.000 It's the complete opposite.

00:51:13.000 And the Tony Hitchcliffe thing...

00:51:15.000 This is what I believe. 0.92

00:51:17.000 I believe that if you're offended by a comedian, you're probably a puss, and you weren't voting for Trump anyway.

00:51:24.000 So thank God for comedians. 0.98

00:51:27.000 You know, when we were going through all the crazy shit with COVID and, you know, comedians... 0.93

00:51:35.000 Again, you want to talk about authenticity and keeping it real and keeping everything in check. 0.92

00:51:42.000 That's what comedians do.

00:51:43.000 Comedians look at everything that's going on in current times in our life and then make fun of it.

00:51:50.000 And you can actually sit back and look at it and go, you know what? 0.98

00:51:55.000 That is ridiculous. 0.97

00:51:56.000 And he's right. 0.98

00:51:59.000 Thank God for comedians.

00:52:01.000 Comedians play a very important role in life, in my opinion.

00:52:07.000 They're all usually very intelligent people who point out things that should be obvious.

00:52:15.000 And yeah, again...

00:52:18.000 Tony is pretty hardcore.

00:52:21.000 So for people that don't know, Tony Hinchcliffe is the guy that you go to when you're planning a roast.

00:52:28.000 If there's a roast, Tony Hinchcliffe is...

00:52:31.000 And let me tell you this about comedy.

00:52:32.000 I've done comedy twice.

00:52:34.000 Now, I spoke at the Republican Convention in 16.

00:52:39.000 I spoke this year.

00:52:40.000 I was at Madison Square Garden and a couple other times.

00:52:44.000 Take...

00:52:45.000 I could do that all day long.

00:52:46.000 Because I'm telling you how I feel and what the truth is.

00:52:51.000 Try and do comedy.

00:52:52.000 Okay?

00:52:53.000 So twice I've had to do comedy.

00:52:54.000 I did the Tom Rady Brost. 0.99

00:52:56.000 I thought I was going to fucking die. 0.99

00:52:58.000 Okay? 0.97

00:52:59.000 The amount of pressure that you feel When you're about to go up, first of all, there's a dais full of the best comedians in the world.

00:53:08.000 And then that day, the arena was sold out.

00:53:12.000 There's 15,000 people there.

00:53:14.000 And it was on Netflix and they come right up with the camera right in your face.

00:53:17.000 Now you got to make people laugh or you have to say something funny.

00:53:21.000 I have never in my life I've never felt that type of pressure before, ever.

00:53:27.000 And I did it.

00:53:28.000 Tom Brady is a good friend of mine.

00:53:30.000 I did it for him. 0.96

00:53:31.000 I will never, ever fucking do that again. 0.99

00:53:35.000 Mark my words, if you ever see me standing, doing stand-up comedy again, I've completely lost my mind. 0.97

00:53:41.000 I have such respect for comedians, and they are a very necessary thing in the world that we live in today.

00:53:49.000 Yeah, and being offended, there are worse things than being offended.

00:53:52.000 And I think an attempt to somehow weaponize that and to turn that into a reason to legitimize censorship is pretty obscene and ridiculous when you know that Zuckerberg admitted they were censoring true information during the pandemic, that the Twitter files revealed that the FBI were managing and controlling information, that we know there's collaboration between the Mainstream media and political parties.

00:54:14.000 To be offended by someone saying something that's supposed to be funny, in a way, you know that they know it's offensive, so in acknowledging that it's offensive, they're also revering it.

00:54:24.000 By saying the flotilla about Puerto Rico, you're acknowledging this is an offensive thing to say.

00:54:30.000 That's why it's being said. 0.92

00:54:32.000 To sort of decontextualise that and look at it morally is pretty ridiculous. 0.55

00:54:36.000 And it's good, actually, to...

00:54:37.000 Hear you say that that's incredible pressure.

00:54:40.000 To hear the father of the UFC say the worst pressure is doing stand-up comedy.

00:54:45.000 Did anyone help you with that when you did that roast?

00:54:48.000 Did anyone give you any lines or anything?

00:54:49.000 What did you do to get help there?

00:54:51.000 Just take ivermectin.

00:54:53.000 How did you get through that pressure?

00:54:55.000 Yeah, Tony Hitchcliffe.

00:54:59.000 Tony Schultz.

00:55:01.000 I mean, I got stuff.

00:55:03.000 Bill Burr.

00:55:04.000 I got a little something from everybody.

00:55:07.000 Yeah, let me tell you, you don't go into a roast and write your own jokes when you're not a comedian.

00:55:13.000 So yeah, those guys help.

00:55:15.000 But then you have to stand up and you have to deliver it.

00:55:18.000 And I'm telling you, I tell the people this all the time.

00:55:22.000 I have never felt the pressure.

00:55:25.000 I do this show called Dana White Looking for a Fight on YouTube.

00:55:29.000 And we go in to different cities around the world and we take in the culture, what they have food or whatever it might be.

00:55:36.000 Then we go to local fights and I try to sign people from there.

00:55:40.000 So we said, you know what we'll do?

00:55:41.000 We'll go to a comedy club and we'll do stand-up comedy.

00:55:45.000 So We do this deal with this comedy club in LA. And, you know, I've been to comedy clubs.

00:55:51.000 You'll go.

00:55:51.000 And unless there's a big headliner, there's 10, 11 people in the audience or whatever.

00:55:56.000 Well, they promoted that we were coming to do this thing. 0.98

00:55:58.000 We pull up to the comedy club and there's a line down the fucking street, okay? 0.99

00:56:02.000 A mile long. 0.99

00:56:03.000 The place is sold out.

00:56:05.000 And we had to write our own jokes and go in there and do this thing.

00:56:10.000 And my other two guys who do the show with me, Matt Sarandine Thomas, wrote their own jokes.

00:56:14.000 I cheated.

00:56:15.000 And I had Tony Hitchcliffe write my jokes when we went in there. 0.99

00:56:20.000 I'm telling you, Russell, I thought I was going to fucking die, man. 0.97

00:56:24.000 I thought I was going to have a heart attack before we went up on stage. 0.98

00:56:27.000 It is the craziest thing that I've ever done.

00:56:31.000 And it's fascinating.

00:56:33.000 And I have so much respect for comedians.

00:56:35.000 And like I said in the beginning, it's like what Chris Rock said, selective outrage.

00:56:40.000 That's what's going on right now.

00:56:44.000 You know, people can put, oh, I'm so upset. 0.94

00:56:47.000 You're a puss, and if comedians are hurting your feelings or in any way, shape, or form offending you, you have much bigger problems in life than A comedian. 0.85

00:57:00.000 It's pretty good that you've got that writer's room to call on. 0.97

00:57:03.000 Hinchcliffe, Bill Burr, Andrew Shores.

00:57:05.000 That's some pretty strong writers.

00:57:07.000 I want to ask Dana that it's Friday when this show is going out.

00:57:13.000 The next week is the election.

00:57:15.000 I've picked up from a variety of sources that it's, you know, no one knows what's going to happen.

00:57:20.000 But we know from the last two elections that it's been contested.

00:57:26.000 And we know that in 2016, all of the Russiagate stuff.

00:57:28.000 We know that in 2020, people still talk about Jan 6, its significance, its seriousness, etc.

00:57:35.000 I've kind of heard that people are anticipating a lot of disruption and a lot of disturbances.

00:57:43.000 I wonder what you feel about that.

00:57:44.000 I wonder if what you feel is, you know, I'm not talking about even the result.

00:57:48.000 I'm talking about what's likely to surround it and what you sense in your country and whether you sense your country is going to be able to use this process to demonstrate the efficacy of a democratic republic and electoral democracy.

00:58:01.000 Or do you sense that there are sort of plates shifting larger here?

00:58:06.000 Do you have concerns about how this election might be undertaken and what the results of it might be and how people may respond to it?

00:58:13.000 Yeah, I mean, that's definitely going to be an issue either way.

00:58:17.000 You know, I went through this whole thing, this last election when Trump lost.

00:58:22.000 It's like, I even have cousins with, you know, when Biden won.

00:58:25.000 Biden is not my president.

00:58:26.000 He's not my president.

00:58:27.000 I got some bad news for you.

00:58:28.000 He's president for the next four years.

00:58:31.000 You know, you know what's going to happen after the election? 0.99

00:58:34.000 I'm gonna get up the next day and go to work and do the same shit that I always do. 0.97

00:58:38.000 But there's no doubt that things need to be fixed. 0.97

00:58:41.000 How about this?

00:58:42.000 Think about this.

00:58:43.000 It's basically 2025, right? 0.99

00:58:46.000 And we are still taking a fucking pencil and filling in circles and putting it in an envelope and putting it in a fucking mailbox, okay? 0.94

00:58:58.000 With all the technology that we have right now, And when you think about what the rules are, and they're always trying to bend the rules and do this, and ballot harvesting and all this other bullshit, how about, you know, listen, anywhere you go right now anyway, facial recognition is, you know, they're doing it on the airlines, they're doing it everywhere else. 0.98

00:59:17.000 One vote, one person, you know it's legal.

00:59:20.000 Why is the technology for voting not caught up with the rest of the world, right? 0.99

00:59:25.000 We're still filling in a fucking circle on a piece of paper. 0.99

00:59:28.000 It's ridiculous, right? 1.00

00:59:30.000 And... 0.99

00:59:32.000 You know, you're going to have people losing their minds and going crazy. 0.99

00:59:36.000 If Trump wins, there's going to be protesting and all this other bullshit that we're going to have to deal with because I am not a fan of protesting. 0.99

00:59:46.000 Protesting drives me absolutely insane. 1.00

00:59:49.000 Because you're an asshole, You can go down, you know, on Fifth Avenue in New York and block up the entire street and ruin everybody else's day. 1.00

00:59:58.000 I think that protesting is absolutely ridiculous and it turns people against your cause. 1.00

01:00:05.000 It doesn't help it. 1.00

01:00:07.000 And you gotta be an absolute fucking maniac to be standing out in the street because you're upset about anything or gluing yourself to the ground or any of that stupid bullshit that goes on during protesting. 1.00

01:00:17.000 But unfortunately, It's something that we're all going to have to deal with. 1.00

01:00:22.000 But my point here is somebody needs to get in, and I don't know how it could even be worked out between the Democrats and the Republicans where technology catches up to voting and all this bullshit would go away.

01:00:39.000 Yeah, it's pretty extraordinary that that's one area where all of this surveillance and control and citizen management and have you had a vaccine and where are you going and what time are you in bed?

01:00:49.000 It's the one area where there's no real conversation about deploying those means of authenticating.

01:00:55.000 Dana, thanks so much for making time.

01:00:58.000 I know how hard you work and how I'm not saying you don't enjoy it.

01:01:02.000 I'm saying it must be pretty demanding.

01:01:04.000 And I appreciate you making time and demonstrating the value of authenticity and that what comes with that is the ability to actually disagree on subjects, to speak openly, to actually change your mind.

01:01:16.000 It's a very, very important value.

01:01:19.000 Really see and appreciate how you've created the incredible success that you've enjoyed in your life and I value the fact that you've included me in even so much as being able to learn from you for an hour.

01:01:29.000 So thanks very much, Dana.

01:01:31.000 It's a pleasure, brother.

01:01:32.000 And people like you are very important in these times right now. 0.99

01:01:36.000 Keep kicking ass. 0.99

01:01:37.000 Keep doing your thing. 0.99

01:01:38.000 Thanks, man.

01:01:39.000 I'll be in touch with you.

01:01:40.000 I appreciate you.

01:01:40.000 Thank you.

01:01:41.000 See you, Russell.

01:01:42.000 Have a great day, man.

01:01:43.000 Dana, thank you so much for joining us today and thanks all of you for joining me for this conversation.

01:01:48.000 Remember, become an Awakened Wonder and you can get additional live content streamed.

01:01:53.000 Me talking to Christian guests about radical revolutionary ideas on the show next week.

01:01:59.000 There'll be another guest.

01:01:59.000 I'm not sure who it's going to be just yet, but it will be fantastic.

01:02:03.000 Thanks for joining us.

01:02:04.000 See you next week.

01:02:05.000 Not for more of the same, but for more of the different and how different it could be on this epochal, historic and extraordinary week in your country.

01:02:11.000 See you then.

01:02:12.000 Stay free.

01:02:13.000 Many switching, switch on, switch on.

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Stay Free - Russel Brand - November 01, 2024

“THIS Is The REAL Reason Kamala Didn’t Do Rogan!” Dana White On The Election, UFC And Trump – SF483

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