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00:02:17.000In this video, you're going to see the future.
00:02:20.000Hello there, you Awakening Wonderslap.
00:02:32.000Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand and what a special day it is because Dana White is on the show and he's going to be talking to us about, well, I guess, appearing at Madison Square Gardens.
00:02:41.000He's going to be telling us about how he built the UFC from next to nothing or certainly a niche sport.
00:02:46.000And he's going to be talking to us about this unique political moment now and whether or not...
00:02:51.000On the 5th of November, which for British people like me is a significant day, look it up baby, will be a day for fireworks, explosions and change.
00:02:59.000Or will we be on the precipice of something perhaps possibly terrifying?
00:03:04.000Dana White will be with us in a few moments on the show.
00:03:06.000If you watch us on YouTube, we'll be on that for the first 15 minutes.
00:03:09.000But we want you to come over to Rumble where we can speak freely, where I can ask Dana White...
00:03:54.000So yeah, but when you said that I remember going man, it sucks to be lied about If you want to participate in that then join us there It's vital and important.
00:04:09.000But let's talk to Dana White now because, you know, why not?
00:04:35.000You're a unique and fascinating figure in our culture.
00:04:38.000And I suppose at the moment, while we're on the precipice of an election in your country, people will be interested in the fact that you have a pretty intimate relationship With Donald Trump, obviously there's more to you than that.
00:04:51.000You've created a living carnival, a return to gladiatorial values.
00:04:56.000You're an avatar of new masculinity or at least a return to traditional masculinity and the values that that might have.
00:05:03.000You've been bold when it comes to the commercial space and commercial partners.
00:05:08.000In previous conversations you've told me you never say anything unless you Mean to say it.
00:05:14.000And I wonder how you see your story and your biography as aligning with where America is right now, in particular when it comes to authenticity.
00:05:40.000Yeah, I think that, you know, we're at a day and age now where people know who's authentic and who isn't.
00:05:51.000You know, I grew up in an era in the 80s where, you know, you would always have, whether it was sports figures or politicians or whoever it was, CEOs of companies reading canned statements that lawyers wrote for them.
00:06:12.000For instance, in my business, if you stay home Saturday night and pay $50 or whatever it is for our pay-per-view and the fight sucks, I'll be the first one to tell you that the fight sucked and it wasn't a good fight.
00:06:25.000I won't try to spin it at the press conference.
00:06:27.000I'll tell you you just saw something great.
00:06:31.000It's just always the way that I have been.
00:06:35.000Do you put that down to your background and the fact that you are a self-educated and self-made man?
00:06:40.000Although, you know, people do argue that, you know, even if you are a self-made person, there are influences and there's been support and there's been advantages.
00:06:48.000And in my opinion, you know, there is a God.
00:06:50.000But I wonder what the relationship is between this authenticity that's uncustomary And your success.
00:06:58.000Because I suppose the reason people are inauthentic is because they assume that if they tell people how they really are, either people won't love them or they will not succeed.
00:07:08.000So what experiences do you accredit with the confidence to be authentic?
00:07:15.000Yeah, well, the truth of the matter is, not everybody's going to love you, no matter what you do, whether you're authentic or phony.
00:08:18.000And I've got to tell you, the truth is, even though I thought I was a person that was very authentic and that I'm a person that's willing to say what I believe in, I've always, as a stand-up comedian, been explicit about the things that I'm into when I was a promiscuous, hedonist, single man.
00:08:33.000I was letting the world know I'm all about that.
00:08:40.000And when I got cancelled, I felt like, wow, you must care what people think about you because I felt hurt and decimated and it really showed me that I was, to a degree, worshipping an image of myself and worshipping other people's opinions of me.
00:08:58.000I wish I could have the boldness that you've exhibited, but I know that I'm getting made harder or purer or more authentic.
00:09:08.000Now, I feel that your country is weird because one of the people that...
00:09:12.000In some ways, I'm not talking about as a personality or in terms of morality, I mean in terms of someone that's built a carnival around themselves, is Vince McMahon.
00:09:23.000Again, I'm talking about the ability to build something from nothing, not other aspects of Vince McMahon.
00:09:29.000It's interesting that what Vince McMahon created was all about fabrication, narrative, storytelling, good v evil, American sort of pantomime, and how that's actually influenced American politics.
00:09:42.000Sometimes when you watch either a Trump rally with Hulk Hogan or a Kamala rally with George Clooney or Beyonce or whatever, you realise people are really trying to access raw emotion, pure emotion.
00:09:54.000Now what you've created with the UFC... It's, in a sense, comparable to, but in other ways opposite to what professional wrestling is about, in so much as it's about actual, raw violence, unexpurgated, like, not uncontrolled, I'm not so naive to say that it's uncontrolled, but it's about a sort of different level of authenticity.
00:10:15.000What was it you saw in the nascent UFC, That made you, or did you even realize it would be a success of this magnitude?
00:10:25.000Was that your vision, or was it just born of your own interest in it and passion for it?
00:11:00.000You know, these are all grown men and women from different parts of the world with different politics and different passions and whatever it might be.
00:11:10.000You know, you never know what the hell is going to be said at a press conference or on the mic after the fight.
00:11:15.000It's, you know, Some of these people don't come from free countries, but, you know, you fight in the UFC. We had a situation with Tyron Woodley, you know, when the whole Black Lives Matter thing started.
00:11:29.000Tyron Woodley came out and was at a press conference, and every question they asked him, his response was Black Lives Matter.
00:11:37.000And, you know, then we had Colby Covington, who's a MAGA Trump guy, you know, on the other side saying what he said.
00:11:51.000So Canada, everybody can speak their mind here and everybody can be themselves and everybody who fights here can be authentic.
00:12:00.000Do you then not intervene and allow the culture of the sport, in particular the stories that emerge around it in the way they do with any beloved sport, the characters, the victories, the losses, the vilification, do you allow them things just to happen?
00:12:18.000And if you do, what is it when you sort of notice that someone is a star?
00:12:24.000When you think, this person is a star, this person is box office.
00:12:28.000There are qualities beyond people's physical attributes, even in athletics, that make them a beloved star.
00:12:36.000In any sport, there are figures that emerge.
00:12:39.000Excellence usually has to be a component because that's the entry price.
00:12:44.000But have there been fighters that you've known were going to advance the UFC, advance the way it was going to be perceived, and that were going to break it out into new sort of dominions or markets or however you, whatever language you use for the expansion of your world?
00:13:01.000Yeah, so basically the number one thing in being a star is you have to be good.
00:13:10.000If you can fight and you're one of the baddest dudes in the world, you're going to be a star.
00:13:15.000But if you have what Conor McGregor has, you're a great fighter and you have the personality or a Ronda Rousey or something like that, then it's just a home run.
00:13:25.000But at the end of the day, the only thing I'm looking for is who's the best fighter in the world.
00:13:57.000And in sport, for a limited amount of time, in a limited space, whether that's a ring or a sports field, things make sense according to agreed upon rules.
00:14:07.000But it does fascinate me, the people that are able to transcend it.
00:14:11.000Can you tell me, Dana, when was the moment that you felt...
00:14:15.000Oh, this is no longer a niche or marginal interest.
00:14:19.000This is something that's exploding into the mainstream.
00:14:23.000Was there a particular UFC event or figure that made you realize you were dealing with a new entity?
00:14:37.000Then as we started to go global, breaking into all these different countries and being on They're equivalent to a Fox or an ESPN at that time.
00:14:48.000But once we did the Fox deal, I knew UFC was here to stay.
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00:15:10.000Yeah, so in a way, even if you're working with something that is novel and new, it's when you are sanctioned by, or at least in partnership with, established old-school media or old-school systems that there's a recognition that you've got a seat at the table, that you're invited to the party.
00:15:33.000But now that mainstream is losing a lot of its integrity, and perhaps has lost its authenticity, do you feel that there might be a kind of shift in the power balance?
00:15:46.000And probably some of the most obvious examples of that shift in power would be the rise of UFC versus old school pugilism and boxing.
00:15:55.000And a relatively new sport like UFC, even though it probably is a reference to the oldest type of combat, I guess.
00:16:05.000And the sport itself is pretty, as you said, as real as it gets.
00:16:11.000And aside from the fighters and the somewhat transitory stars that come in any sport, because everyone has an expiration date, if physical excellence is part of the package, Joe Rogan is one of the defining figures.
00:16:24.000I want to know how you knew, or did you know, that this guy was the right person to be the avatar and figurehead of the public broadcast aspect of UFC?
00:16:35.000And what his rise tells us about the shift in landscape in media, where you knew that UFC was a success because of Fox or its international equivalents, and now those very media organizations...
00:16:48.000if not being dwarfed by a figure like Rogan, are certainly being challenged.
00:17:02.000Fox has subscribers that want to hear what Fox has to tell them and CNN and MSNBC and all of them have subscribers who want to hear what they have to tell them.
00:17:14.000If you want to hear the truth or as close to the truth, podcasting is where it's at now, where you sit down one-on-one and you have these intimate conversations with somebody who doesn't have an agenda, who isn't trying to hit you with that gotcha moment, and then cut it up and edit it and make it look like somebody said something else.
00:17:36.000The media now will use your podcast...
00:17:43.000Chop it up 50 million ways and use it however they want to use it to say what they want to say, not what you said.
00:17:52.000And Joe Rogan is definitely leading the charge in that world right now.
00:17:57.000And it's one of the beautiful things about Joe.
00:17:59.000I mean, even with the Trump thing, he invited Trump and Kamala to both come on his show.
00:18:06.000Not showing favoritism toward either one of them.
00:18:09.000And even recently when they put all the demands on her.
00:18:13.000The reason that Kamala won't do his show.
00:18:16.000It's because Kamala Harris cannot speak without a teleprompter.
00:18:43.000You know, like, actually, he's a very respectful and kind person, and certainly in that environment, that's how I found him on the occasions that I've spent time with him.
00:18:53.000And at the point that the Democratic Party are now at, I kind of wonder what they've got to lose.
00:18:59.000But they must have calculated that they have stuff to lose in integral demographics in key areas.
00:19:05.000And again, that subject of authenticity comes to the forefront, because my guess would be, That you knew that Rogan's a lifelong martial artist with a genuine interest in the sport that means he would, and I think at some point did, actually do it for nothing.
00:19:19.000So again, this principle of authenticity will see you through.
00:19:22.000When you're dealing with the Democratic Party trying to contend with media, you can almost look at the lineage and see how someone like Bill Clinton was a slick media operator and very likable.
00:19:34.000One can't help but wonder how Bill Clinton would have got on in the Social media age with some of his, let's call them favourably, some of his oval office hobbies and his unique cigar holders, shall we call them.
00:19:47.000You know, that's a guy that may have struggled in a social media environment to manage his reputation and his image.
00:19:53.000Now you're at the point where they don't have A slick, on-screen media operator like Clinton.
00:19:59.000They had Biden that surprised him by falling apart, and they had no choice but Kamala, and she doesn't know how to operate in the aquarium of modern media life.
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00:21:29.000When you scrutinise it, though, even Obama, who is a brilliant media operator and communicator, Obama has to be held up alongside his record, which includes his handling of the 2008 financial crisis, the ongoing droning and foreign misadventures while he was president.
00:21:46.000You can no longer hold up Obama and pretend this is the era of hope now.
00:21:50.000And change and transition from the Bush-Cheney wars in Iraq type era.
00:21:58.000And what I find really hard to communicate to people and in a sense somewhat overwhelming is I think that since Bobby Kennedy has become a part of the MAGA movement, it's now more and more difficult to not acknowledge that what's happening there is more authentic, has more integrity it's now more and more difficult to not acknowledge that what's happening there is more authentic, has more integrity and is more open
00:22:21.000It's become clear that what they're interested in is managing corporatist and globalist interests while sort of seeming likeable and normal.
00:22:30.000But you're a person that seems to have had a relationship with Trump in particular for a long time.
00:22:35.000And whilst Trump is continually accused, particularly by his detractors of being dishonest and being a liar and that, I get the sense that he has the same type of authenticity that's formed the backbone of our conversation for this first 20 minutes.
00:22:49.000What's your analysis of why the phenomena of Trump is so powerful, how the Trump of 2016 succeeded, and why you believe, as I assume you do, that the Trump of 2024 will succeed?
00:23:08.000Listen, Trump's one of the most authentic human beings you'll ever meet, and I've been friends with this guy for a long time, and I tell everybody that I come in contact with, and And interviews.
00:23:23.000And he is authentic enough to go on Joe Rogan's show for three and a half hours unscripted and talk about anything that popped up.
00:23:33.000Talk to Joe or anybody else, you know?
00:23:37.000And I pushed hard for him to do that interview because that's the setting that he needs to be in.
00:23:44.000Every time he does an interview with the mainstream media, it's all the same bullshit.
00:23:49.000And I knew that he and Rogan would sit down.
00:23:52.000More importantly, I knew he and Rogan would like each other.
00:23:55.000I needed to get those two together because I knew they would end up liking each other once they sat in a room together.
00:24:02.000You know, if you look at how much Trump has been attacked over the last, you know, since 2015, just nonstop the way that they've tried to destroy this guy.
00:24:15.000He is one of the most resilient humans that I have ever met.
00:24:19.000And the way that he is built And what he has to offer, he is who you want to be the President of the United States right now, right here, with all the stuff that's going on, not just in the United States, but in the world.
00:24:33.000The scary part about, this is what's always fascinating to me, and how this is even real life right now is absolutely fucking mind-boggling to me.
00:24:42.000Now, they have determined, after the last debate, that Biden is unfit to run, right?
00:24:52.000He's the President of the United States.
00:25:25.000And the brilliant thing that I think is absolutely amazing, whoever it is and whatever's going on right now, they have figured out a way to slide Kamala Harris in here, right, without one person voting for her, because if they put her up to vote, There'd be another Democrat in there.
00:25:42.000She would have never even come close to getting this far, right?
00:25:46.000And if they can pull this off, whoever is really running the country right now will still be in power for another four years.
00:25:54.000And the fact that this is even real life is absolutely fucking insane.
00:25:59.000Yeah, that's a brilliant way of putting it.
00:26:01.000It can't have been Biden in control when for years in advance of that debate, most commentators in our space were saying this guy is falling into senescence and senility.
00:26:12.000It can't be Kamala Harris who's in charge.
00:26:16.000So whoever's engineering and managing this situation, the people that make choices like get Bobby Kennedy out, Out of this party.
00:26:36.000Isn't it pretty unusual, Dana, to find yourself in a position where you are brokering conversations between the former and potentially future president of the United States and this new I mean, that's...
00:27:08.000Pretty much outside of the purview of an entrepreneur, a businessman, a person with interest in combat sports and martial arts.
00:28:34.000We need more people who have a platform to get out and tell the truth.
00:28:39.000And like you said, like this interview started, and be authentic.
00:28:44.000Yeah, it's not an easy path to take always, and I wonder what personal consequences you've experienced, because that does, I was just remembering what it was like in 2015, because I can tell you plainly that when Donald Trump announced that he was running, right, I was already doing a YouTube channel.
00:29:03.000I was very anti-government, anti-corporatism, globalism, anti-war.
00:29:08.000But I still, when Donald Trump come to the forefront as a presidential candidate, I was like, nah, this guy cannot win a presidential election.
00:29:18.000And I was consuming the media that was damning and condemning him.
00:29:22.000So me, I've learned since he's been in the public eye in this incarnation, like, hang on.
00:29:28.000The reason they don't like this man is because he's a berserker.
00:29:35.000He's not part of those conduits of power that produce the kind of politicians that we've discussed and broadly agree are constructed, unreliable ciphers.
00:29:46.000I think it must have been an unusual choice for you to have made that and a sort of a brave choice.
00:29:53.000And I'm surprised by the fact that you had that insight and perspicacity then.
00:29:58.000What was it about Donald Trump at that point that you liked?
00:30:03.000And what were you basing that decision on?
00:32:26.000I think you introduced him and it was obvious that you mean a great deal to him and now I can see why because you've acted with integrity and authenticity and as a person that has indeed been subject to those kind of media attacks I can confirm that you're right.
00:32:41.000What happens is People are terrified of that kind of power, and they're terrified that they're going to be contaminated, and they're right to be terrified, because that's the point of it.
00:32:50.000That's how you know it is not legitimate, because if it was legitimate, during a pandemic, they'll be able to come and go, you know, we've not trialled these medications yet for transmission, and of course, you know, no pregnant women, for example, were willing to submit themselves to clinical trials, so you might want to be careful there, and it's possible that this pandemic was as a result of a mishap in a lab, but no, there was none of that.
00:33:12.000There was lying and shaming and attacking and control, and anyone who spoke out against it was vilified.
00:33:19.000What did you learn during that period, and how did it affect your business, the UFC, and how did it affect, what did you say, for example, to your fighters and the various numbers of people that you must be sort of responsible for, if you're happy to let people speak out, whether they're BLM or MAGA, how did you handle the position of being, I guess, to some degree responsible of what was a near-mandated Yeah, at that time, you know, I was looking down the barrel of, I have 650 employees.
00:33:49.000And, you know, you have to start making hard decisions, you know, laying people off and making these cuts.
00:33:56.000Some of these people that have been with me have been with me for 20 years.
00:33:59.000So the UFC was this this rocket ship of success for many years.
00:34:03.000And, you know, all these people that that worked for me, you know, we never really faced real adversity after we got through the early days.
00:34:13.000And the first time the shit hits the fan, I'm gonna go out and lay off 38% of my staff.
00:35:22.000The next morning when I woke up, I had my smell and taste back, and I never got sick from COVID. Never even came remotely close to getting sick when I got COVID. So I was never believing any of the bullshit that the government was telling me anyway.
00:35:36.000Then the other thing is our governor at the time, right?
00:36:19.000All the fighters' contracts were honored.
00:36:21.000All of our Sponsorship contracts were honored and all of our television contracts were honored all through COVID. So, yeah, there was no way.
00:36:29.000And at the time, Trump was the sitting president.
00:37:37.000You know, I bet the New York Times haven't done any scrutiny on analysis if what they care about is people caring more about money than human health.
00:37:45.000Have they looked into them Pfizer files?
00:37:49.000If they care more about human life than money, have they looked at what might be behind perpetuating the Ukraine-Russia conflict and who might be benefiting and who might be suffering?
00:38:00.000It's extraordinary, actually, to start to...
00:38:06.000When looking, say, at the archetypal energy underneath these things, and this was also visible, I think, during that period, is there's an attack on not only masculinity, although clearly there is, and also femininity, although clearly there is.
00:38:21.000There's a sort of an attack on the spirit of people.
00:38:26.000We don't want spirited people that are going to go, there is adversity now, but that means we're going to have to fight.
00:38:32.000That means we're going to have to oppose it.
00:38:42.000And a lot of people are exposed curiously, because I always think in your country, America in particular, people don't like being told what to do.
00:39:05.000In fact, if they'd really wanted me to take that vaccine, they should have just put a pack of them somewhere in my house and told me not to touch it under any circumstances.
00:39:17.000But as soon as I knew, they were telling me to do it.
00:39:19.000I'm like, hmm, I don't know about that, man.
00:39:21.000So, like, a lot was revealed by that authoritarian position.
00:39:24.000Now, given that during that pandemic period, also people weren't being told to eat healthy, weren't being told to exercise, do you think there's, like, an attack from, say, big food, big agriculture, big pharma, and the media in general, to stop people being, like, healthy and embodied and strong?
00:39:42.000Like, they kind of want people to be weak.
00:39:44.000And without leaders, it's almost like human strength itself that they're against.
00:39:48.000Yeah, I mean, that's going deep into the rabbit hole.
00:39:54.000Listen, at the end of the day, when you talk about, you know, you were talking about, or I was saying, you know, the New York Times coming after me saying I care more about money and instead of human life and all that, all that crap.
00:43:22.000Vote in this election for whoever you want to vote for.
00:43:26.000It shows you really that someone like Gary Brecker, that's at the forefront of optimisation and longevity, working with someone like Callie Means and Casey Means, who are the forefront of food and the toxicity of food, administrating with someone like RFK under the leadership of Trump, Would indeed lead to breaking down of big food, big pharma, big agriculture, because that's a racket, isn't it?
00:43:54.000What they were trying to do is make sure that medicine and health are regarded as pharmaceutical rather than a holistic field.
00:44:04.000Where people should have their blood work looked at, should have their vital signs looked at, and then should be resolving health through nutrition, through exercise, through harmony with nature.
00:44:14.000It's so weird that the globalists say, and by globalists I mean people like the Democrats under Biden or Kamala, my country Keir Starmer, Labour, Macron in France, Trudeau in Canada, All people that tell you that we're here to help you,
00:44:31.000we're here to look after you, respect the planet, be kind to one another, be nice to one another, seem to sort of hate life, like want people to eat bad food, don't want an investigation into alternative forms of therapy and medicine and diet, don't elevate people that know a lot, whether that's sort of like Gary or Casey and Callie means, so that suddenly we've got a variety of information.
00:44:52.000You can see now why that was a perfect storm, that pandemic period, and in particular when Joe Rogan gave not only advice to you about what you should be doing to respond to COVID, but to hundreds of millions of people, why they had to work pretty hard to try and take that guy down.
00:45:07.000And the fact that the media were willing to participate in that shows you again the lack of authenticity and the type of dark integrity that they have between them.
00:45:17.000Well, what's fascinating is, I mean, you saw the attack on ivermectin, right?
00:45:46.000So the greatest thing that's ever happened to me was the pandemic, okay?
00:45:51.000It opened my eyes to a lot of things that I would have never known had it not happened.
00:45:57.000I always believed in modern medicine and this holistic shit I used to call hippie shit.
00:46:03.000Like the Gary Brecken stuff, I'm like, yeah, they're a bunch of nutty hippies and, you know...
00:46:09.000Then once I tried it, met him, it completely changed my whole life.
00:46:13.000And the whole COVID thing, all of that opened my eyes to the government, health, what's real, what's not real.
00:46:19.000I'm not falling for any bullshit anymore after we've been through that.
00:46:24.000Yeah, the COVID thing was an attempt, it looks like, in retrospect, to manage entire populations, to legitimize things like digital citizen management.
00:46:34.000They'll start talking about centralizing currencies and digitalizing them, even though when Bitcoin come out, oh, Bitcoin is really bad, it's evil, it's bad for the environment.
00:48:08.000We can start to expose that the government want maximum privacy for themselves, maximum transparency for the people of America.
00:48:15.000When the reverse is what should be true, you should better see exactly what the government's doing with your money, and you should have total privacy, except in instances where you're obviously breaking the law, agreed upon consensual laws, I would say, in that instance.
00:48:38.000Well, where are you coming from when it comes to God?
00:48:40.000Because when we're talking about authenticity, integrity, and having principles, it's, in a sense, what I believe the government wants to do is replace God.
00:48:51.000And that's very easy to do if people don't have God.
00:48:53.000I just wonder where you stand on that.
00:50:17.000Did you think that what Tony Hinchcliffe said was super relevant?
00:50:21.000And how do you contrast it with um what joe biden just said about trump supporters being garbage and importantly as jd vance pointed out that politico censored that bit of information when reporting on what biden said so was the madison square garden moment significant for trump was is it significant that it was in new york is it significant that it sort of seems to suggest that there is a different type of mega movement in 2024 than there was in 2016 as a person that participated in it What did it feel like?
00:50:50.000For example, I heard MSNBC say, I think it was Micah, that it was a festival of hatred or something like that.
00:50:58.000So I just wonder what it was like to speak there.
00:51:01.000Yeah, I mean, that narrative is so ridiculous that there is literally...
00:51:06.000When you go to one of these Trump things, there's no hatred.
00:53:31.000I will never, ever fucking do that again.
00:53:35.000Mark my words, if you ever see me standing, doing stand-up comedy again, I've completely lost my mind.
00:53:41.000I have such respect for comedians, and they are a very necessary thing in the world that we live in today.
00:53:49.000Yeah, and being offended, there are worse things than being offended.
00:53:52.000And I think an attempt to somehow weaponize that and to turn that into a reason to legitimize censorship is pretty obscene and ridiculous when you know that Zuckerberg admitted they were censoring true information during the pandemic, that the Twitter files revealed that the FBI were managing and controlling information, that we know there's collaboration between the Mainstream media and political parties.
00:54:14.000To be offended by someone saying something that's supposed to be funny, in a way, you know that they know it's offensive, so in acknowledging that it's offensive, they're also revering it.
00:54:24.000By saying the flotilla about Puerto Rico, you're acknowledging this is an offensive thing to say.
00:56:44.000You know, people can put, oh, I'm so upset.
00:56:47.000You're a puss, and if comedians are hurting your feelings or in any way, shape, or form offending you, you have much bigger problems in life than A comedian.
00:57:00.000It's pretty good that you've got that writer's room to call on.
00:57:03.000Hinchcliffe, Bill Burr, Andrew Shores.
00:57:44.000I wonder if what you feel is, you know, I'm not talking about even the result.
00:57:48.000I'm talking about what's likely to surround it and what you sense in your country and whether you sense your country is going to be able to use this process to demonstrate the efficacy of a democratic republic and electoral democracy.
00:58:01.000Or do you sense that there are sort of plates shifting larger here?
00:58:06.000Do you have concerns about how this election might be undertaken and what the results of it might be and how people may respond to it?
00:58:13.000Yeah, I mean, that's definitely going to be an issue either way.
00:58:17.000You know, I went through this whole thing, this last election when Trump lost.
00:58:22.000It's like, I even have cousins with, you know, when Biden won.
00:58:46.000And we are still taking a fucking pencil and filling in circles and putting it in an envelope and putting it in a fucking mailbox, okay?
00:58:58.000With all the technology that we have right now, And when you think about what the rules are, and they're always trying to bend the rules and do this, and ballot harvesting and all this other bullshit, how about, you know, listen, anywhere you go right now anyway, facial recognition is, you know, they're doing it on the airlines, they're doing it everywhere else.
00:59:17.000One vote, one person, you know it's legal.
00:59:20.000Why is the technology for voting not caught up with the rest of the world, right?
00:59:25.000We're still filling in a fucking circle on a piece of paper.
00:59:32.000You know, you're going to have people losing their minds and going crazy.
00:59:36.000If Trump wins, there's going to be protesting and all this other bullshit that we're going to have to deal with because I am not a fan of protesting.
00:59:46.000Protesting drives me absolutely insane.
00:59:49.000Because you're an asshole, You can go down, you know, on Fifth Avenue in New York and block up the entire street and ruin everybody else's day.
00:59:58.000I think that protesting is absolutely ridiculous and it turns people against your cause.
01:00:07.000And you gotta be an absolute fucking maniac to be standing out in the street because you're upset about anything or gluing yourself to the ground or any of that stupid bullshit that goes on during protesting.
01:00:17.000But unfortunately, It's something that we're all going to have to deal with.
01:00:22.000But my point here is somebody needs to get in, and I don't know how it could even be worked out between the Democrats and the Republicans where technology catches up to voting and all this bullshit would go away.
01:00:39.000Yeah, it's pretty extraordinary that that's one area where all of this surveillance and control and citizen management and have you had a vaccine and where are you going and what time are you in bed?
01:00:49.000It's the one area where there's no real conversation about deploying those means of authenticating.
01:00:58.000I know how hard you work and how I'm not saying you don't enjoy it.
01:01:02.000I'm saying it must be pretty demanding.
01:01:04.000And I appreciate you making time and demonstrating the value of authenticity and that what comes with that is the ability to actually disagree on subjects, to speak openly, to actually change your mind.
01:01:19.000Really see and appreciate how you've created the incredible success that you've enjoyed in your life and I value the fact that you've included me in even so much as being able to learn from you for an hour.
01:02:05.000Not for more of the same, but for more of the different and how different it could be on this epochal, historic and extraordinary week in your country.