Stay Free - Russel Brand - June 26, 2025


Tommy Robinson: Silenced – Watch With Us - SF604


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour

Words per Minute

172.22891

Word Count

10,483

Sentence Count

749

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

19


Summary

In this episode of Stay Free With Russell Brand: Watch Along, we're looking at Tommy Robinson's documentary, about rape gangs in the UK. What does it tell us about the new political era that we are entering? Is it possible to have a cohesive society in the West where Muslims, Christians, and Jews might live harmoniously together, and how do we manage the complex issues of migration and nation?


Transcript

00:00:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand and Russell Russell Alvin trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
00:00:17.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.
00:00:18.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand Watch Along and what a controversial watch along it is.
00:00:24.000 So we'll have to determine when we're leaping off of YouTube because today we're looking at Tommy Robinson's documentary about, well, there's several aren't there.
00:00:32.000 There's ones where he exposes that the media appeared to collude with various sources and resources in order to create allegations against him, as well as his now notorious investigations about rape gangs in the UK.
00:00:47.000 And now that there is an inquiry into rape gangs in the UK, after the government assured the British people there would not be one and there was no requirement for one, we are entering a new political era.
00:00:58.000 I.e.
00:00:58.000 if Tommy Robinson hadn't made that documentary and Elon Musk hadn't reposted it on X, this investigation that's happening in the UK would not be happening.
00:01:08.000 Let me know in the comments and chat what that informs you and us when it comes to the new political era that we are entering.
00:01:16.000 I.e.
00:01:17.000 we no longer live in the age where political institutions and media institutions can absolutely control outcomes even when it comes to explicitly political matters like government inquiries.
00:01:29.000 Let me know too if you believe that it was a scandal that this rape gang inquiry wasn't undertaken earlier and do you think that possibly the constant condemnation and smearing that Tommy Robinson is the recipient of is somewhat as a result of his position on these matters and do you believe that it's possible to have a cohesive society in the West where British Muslims,
00:01:54.000 British Christians, British atheists and Jews might live harmoniously together and how do you manage the complex issues of migration and nation?
00:02:04.000 I.e.
00:02:04.000 if you have a nation you've got to have borders you've got to have a flag you've got to have a set of cohesive beliefs where are they derived from as people dismantle religious ideology in favor of globalism and statism people drift towards individualistic nihilistic despair all of this and more we'll be discussing with our team so if you're not on rumble premium yet get rumble premium now will be on youtube and x for the first 20 30 minutes or so depending on the censorship that this content uh receives because tommy robinson's often exorcised from a
00:02:34.000 lot of social media platforms with me today is the producer of the show known by many simply as the man in the hat it's jake smith all right jake we're doing it again another week another week of deep inquiry into significant matters with like there are these are some of the subjects and let me know in the comments and chat what you want to see us discuss the clinton suicides i mean no no that's not that that's not how we phrase it it's called it's just actually people that know the clintons that commit suicide by coincidence or die just a kill list just a simple kill list
00:03:05.000 it's just a simple kill list i mean we can like look we can talk to chat gbt about this like you know like it's not uh chat uh chat chat gbt do you is there is there an inordinate number of people that know bill and hillary clinton that have subsequently ended their own lives please let me know i love this bit also with me is masi our uh beloved iranian contributor you all right massey look
00:03:35.000 forward to watching this that's a pretty complex and controversial topic and a lot of claims about it tend to circulate online it's always good to look into credible sources but accurate information and hey massey hope you're doing great now uh chat gbt what do you think about tommy tommy tommy tommy robinson and his uh documentary into rape gangs and what do you think it tells us that there is now going to be an inquiry into rape gangs subsequent to tommy robinson's documentary and
00:04:05.000 its reposting on x after the british government have said that there wasn't going to be an inquiry previously what do you think about that chat gpt old chum that's definitely a heavy topic tommy robinson's documentaries have sparked a lot of debate um and definitely brought attention to certain issues it's interesting that uh there's now going to be an inquiry uh especially after the initial resistance it really shows the power of public discourse and media in influencing government decisions good
00:04:37.000 work there chat gpt and also is jesus real ask him what would he take for a salary to join our team because just full-time would you come and work with us full-time chat gpt do we have to pay you additionally beyond my subscription well i'm always here to help as part of your subscription so no extra salary needed uh and as for whether jesus is real that definitely comes down to personal belief and
00:05:06.000 faith if you ever want to chat more about any of that i'm here i do uh thank you i love you um also luke is joining us our social media and marketing manager you're right luke are you enjoying that conversation oh i'm feeling great baby jesus is alive another day jesus is alive he's taking over look i'm in charge it's vital that i'm given the authority to run this podcast we had this yesterday when we were talking about if you see if you watch that back here massey the other one we did with him we did an amazing
00:05:36.000 one me and chat gpt yesterday and i'm afraid chat gpt we did a sort of we did a video of russell brand unpacked in fact have a look at it now this is russell brand unpacked when we talk about that man who's uh proposed his ai it's pretty amazing actually we uh me and chat gpt hosted it together chat gpt keeps sort of stepping on my toes here's a look at that now they have a two-year-old daughter murphy i knew that
00:06:06.000 he had used ai i didn't know that it was like as deep as it was do you think the news will ask him if he's masturbated in front of it and is that where this is going and like is there a point where it's like oh would you pull up these images and what would you do to me i mean where does this go where are the boundaries a good amount of my members tend to have pretty high libidos yes Well, how do you exercise your libido with binary?
00:06:33.000 Maybe non-binary.
00:06:38.000 Also with me is Isaac Starr of Asker Jew.
00:06:42.000 How's it going, Isaac?
00:06:43.000 You're right, mate.
00:06:43.000 I'm good.
00:06:44.000 I'm good.
00:06:44.000 Thank you.
00:06:46.000 Oh, look how sweet he is.
00:06:48.000 Thank you.
00:06:48.000 What a lovely young man.
00:06:50.000 A beautiful wife and a wonderful son.
00:06:52.000 Beautiful, lovely citizen.
00:06:53.000 Okay, so let's have a look at Tommy Robinson's documentary.
00:06:57.000 Just so you know, I'm a working-class British person myself, even though I've been through the annals, yes, and I use the word deliberately, of Hollywood.
00:07:05.000 I still feel very connected to my roots and where I come from.
00:07:08.000 My personal prayer and belief is that British people of all religious identities and races can come together to oppose the globalist establishment forces that seek to castrate British power and British identity.
00:07:23.000 Britain is for the British.
00:07:26.000 British people have always been welcoming and open-hearted, embracing people and willing to go to war and lay down their lives in the holy name of righteousness.
00:07:37.000 So perhaps Tommy Robinson has a great contribution to how Britain can reorganise, reorder, maybe even reform its identity in the coming years.
00:07:47.000 Let's have a look at this controversial documentary from a working class journalist.
00:07:53.000 And that's what the left used to always say they wanted.
00:07:55.000 The intelligentsia said, how do we engage the working classes?
00:07:57.000 Well, let me tell you, the working classes are engaged now, and they don't like you.
00:08:03.000 Let's have a look.
00:08:03.000 It's definitely interesting to see how different perspectives and voices...
00:08:18.000 This story is far bigger than Tommy Robinson.
00:08:21.000 This is about the weaponisation and the politicization of these buildings.
00:08:25.000 Court buildings across the West.
00:08:27.000 The Royal Courts of Justice, ironically named.
00:08:29.000 These buildings have been weaponised and used against members of the public to destroy them if they speak out.
00:08:34.000 From Donald Trump to Steve Bannon to Gert Fielders to Marie Le Pen to Katie Hopkins.
00:08:39.000 That's what's happening.
00:08:41.000 My job as a journalist, I stand for freedom of speech, I stand for freedom of press.
00:08:45.000 And I failed because three years ago when I lost a court case in here and they bankrupted me to the tune of £1.6 million on a documentary, you're going to see the entire story was a lie.
00:08:54.000 I failed because I should have come out of court and I should have played you that film.
00:08:58.000 Why didn't I play you that film?
00:08:59.000 Because I was given a gagging order by this building, by this judge.
00:09:02.000 I was silenced and I allowed them to silence me because I was scared.
00:09:07.000 I was scared of two years in prison.
00:09:08.000 I was scared of the effect that solitary confinement for that length of time would have on me.
00:09:12.000 I was scared of jihadi gangs in jail and I was scared of the effect it would have on my family.
00:09:17.000 I failed me and I failed you.
00:09:19.000 I'm not going to fail myself again.
00:09:21.000 You're now going to watch the best citizen journalism and the most incredible expose of the establishment you've ever seen.
00:09:34.000 Interesting musical choice.
00:09:37.000 I missed a saxophone.
00:09:40.000 If you're a regular viewer of our show, you will know that we like some library archive of saxophone to illustrate nocturnal tension.
00:09:54.000 The news is how we find out what's happening in the world.
00:09:57.000 It's how we form our opinions.
00:10:00.000 Opinions based on facts.
00:10:02.000 That's the key.
00:10:04.000 Facts.
00:10:05.000 Facts should be delivered to you by journalists based on the truth.
00:10:10.000 But what if what they're delivering you isn't the truth?
00:10:13.000 What if it's stories that are manipulated to make you think a certain way, to follow a certain narrative, different people's agendas?
00:10:21.000 And what do they do to those who go against that mainstream narrative?
00:10:25.000 Those who try to expose the truth?
00:10:28.000 This is a documentary about the lengths they will go to to shut down and silence anyone from bringing you, the British public, the truth.
00:10:39.000 I lost my job over this.
00:10:41.000 Non-disclosure business.
00:10:42.000 He's a nasty little piece of shit.
00:10:44.000 Swung the hockey stick over his head and hit me in the spine with it.
00:10:48.000 I love England, man.
00:10:49.000 It's just nice to be reminded of English people when you don't live there no more.
00:10:52.000 He's a nasty little piece of shit.
00:10:54.000 I just love, like, when I've lived in America for a long period of time, when I come back, it's just lovely to hear the way British people talk.
00:11:01.000 You fucking wanker.
00:11:02.000 Here's he going, you old josper.
00:11:05.000 Where does wanker rank in the, you know, like the C-word?
00:11:09.000 Okay, let's do this cursing league tables of the UK.
00:11:12.000 The C-word is, I know that.
00:11:14.000 Okay, your upper echelons of cursing.
00:11:17.000 There's no question that cunt is king when it comes to cursing.
00:11:22.000 In Australia, anyone that's traveled widely will know that the word cunt in Australia is the same as basic.
00:11:27.000 Hello.
00:11:28.000 Hello.
00:11:29.000 It's just not even an expletive.
00:11:30.000 But in the UK, it's a curse word.
00:11:32.000 In America, it's extremely rude.
00:11:33.000 I would say next you've got fuck and fuck derivatives like motherfucker.
00:11:39.000 Then you've got your sort of mid-range curse words.
00:11:44.000 You know, shit, piss, bollocks.
00:11:48.000 You put piss in the same.
00:11:51.000 You put piss in that?
00:11:52.000 I think piss and shit are the same.
00:11:54.000 But you can also take the piss.
00:11:56.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:11:57.000 I think that's a good idea.
00:11:58.000 That's different, right?
00:11:59.000 Wanker, being sort of its own kind, given that it's vernacular and parochial, like, I think it's a separate category.
00:12:08.000 I mean, you couldn't say wanker at school.
00:12:10.000 If you called a teacher at school, you wanker, you're in a lot of trouble.
00:12:14.000 But I think, like, it's British only.
00:12:17.000 The thing is, with the success of American culture, the fact is that most of your curse words are global.
00:12:25.000 I think sometimes we're limited in the words we can pull from, you know?
00:12:29.000 So the curse words seem to be like a next level that you could say if I want to add a little more emphasis to it.
00:12:37.000 Wanker is very popular in the Rumble chat.
00:12:39.000 It's a great, well, it would be, wouldn't it?
00:12:41.000 I mean, it's because it comes up as a subject.
00:12:44.000 I have to tell them, stop wanking, you lot.
00:12:46.000 Pack it in in the sort of in the literal.
00:12:47.000 There's literal wanker.
00:12:49.000 You got any Hebrew curse words to add?
00:12:52.000 Benzona.
00:12:53.000 Benzona.
00:12:54.000 Is that for wanking?
00:12:56.000 Oh.
00:12:56.000 That sounds like a cream you put on, like, if you're sore.
00:12:59.000 Yes, yes.
00:13:00.000 But I actually had a question.
00:13:02.000 In the UK, aren't they allowed to broadcast like talk and shit like on the TV, like the BBC or any of the no?
00:13:10.000 Then why is it that?
00:13:10.000 Not before the watershed.
00:13:13.000 Because I've seen a lot of people.
00:13:14.000 Before the watershed, isn't it, Russell?
00:13:16.000 We've got a watershed.
00:13:17.000 You don't know about the watershed?
00:13:19.000 Oh, you gotta respect the watershed?
00:13:21.000 The watershed?
00:13:21.000 That's 9 p.m.
00:13:23.000 After the watershed.
00:13:25.000 Here's the fucking news, you shit cunts.
00:13:28.000 It is.
00:13:29.000 It's a time.
00:13:30.000 Yeah, yeah, there's a time.
00:13:31.000 See, in the United States, there is no time you can unless you're on, like, HBO subscription.
00:13:36.000 Yeah, there's like a there's adult swim.
00:13:38.000 Adult swim is where like they still bleep it.
00:13:41.000 Oh, do they?
00:13:42.000 Yeah, they're not allowed to have like the hard expletives, like only when they release it on streaming or on a subsequent platform, not like on the air, because the FCC like bans it.
00:13:53.000 They're not allowed.
00:13:54.000 Can you imagine how upset Tommy Robinson will be if he's watching this, expecting like a sort of an earnest critique of his work as a documentary maker?
00:14:03.000 And if the British people now that are sort of craving revolution, at least radical change, and are hoping that we can have a conversation where the British working class and members of other communities can find a way to live harmoniously together, to honour the electorate, to honour the results of the Brexit referendum, to honour the obvious wishes of a significant number of British people to manage migration seriously and sensibly.
00:14:27.000 And then they tune into this, thinking Russell Brand, perhaps he's the person that can bring together the old establishment left, this new emergent populism, and highlight leaders in British politics.
00:14:39.000 And they come over here and what we're talking about is Wanker and Watershed.
00:14:44.000 Watershed Wankers, our new show.
00:14:46.000 I'd say to bring it all back around is if you get rid of that sweet lady, then the UK changes, right?
00:14:53.000 If you don't have that, if she can't say that, and you go, man, that's nostalgic.
00:14:57.000 And you just say everybody needs to look a certain way and not have those moments.
00:15:02.000 Little piece of shit.
00:15:04.000 Yeah, you need those.
00:15:04.000 That's like for us in Louisiana, those Cajun ladies, you know, like you need those Cajun ladies.
00:15:09.000 I like them people from Louisiana where you're from that have got some mad accent that like Pops has it.
00:15:14.000 Yeah, it's a Cajun.
00:15:15.000 It's a Cajun accent.
00:15:16.000 You need that.
00:15:17.000 You need that.
00:15:23.000 Like that, they talk.
00:15:24.000 I don't know what he's saying.
00:15:26.000 I think it was get out of my hospital room.
00:15:30.000 All right, let's crack on with Tommy.
00:15:32.000 Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, Robinson.
00:15:36.000 This kid was out unconscious already.
00:15:38.000 That's just malicious.
00:15:40.000 You're not going back.
00:15:41.000 No, because what you're doing, I know what you're doing.
00:15:43.000 Tommy, I am going to mince your kids, mate.
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00:17:45.000 You lunatic you.
00:17:51.000 This is a documentary about the unholy alliance between the media, the justice system and our politicians.
00:17:57.000 How they conspire to suppress free speech, how they pervert democracy and how the truth and your freedoms are just two of the casualties.
00:18:04.000 We will show how the mainstream media deceives people, how they ignore the truth, how the lies the virtue signal in BBC, ITV and Channel 4 are all about their poisonous agenda, no matter the cost to innocent people.
00:18:17.000 It's also a documentary about how an everyday playground incident between two young lads was spun into global news at a terrible cost to so many people, not least the two young lads themselves.
00:18:29.000 We will show how the law is being abused, how people driven by hateful ideologies attempt to intimidate and silence anyone who dares to challenge the so-called progressive, so-called liberal narrative.
00:18:42.000 We will show the foolishness of our fear-driven political leaders who jump I actually think it's pretty good so far.
00:18:49.000 I think he's a good communicator.
00:18:51.000 This is like a side of Tommy Robinson that I've not seen before when I've seen him on Jordan Peterson and stuff like that.
00:18:56.000 The thing is, is I think I feel like a lot of people sense Tommy's got a kind of a febrile, kind of edgy, like lightweight boxers kind of pugilistic stance and tone to him.
00:19:10.000 But I think he's a good communicator and I think he speaks for a lot of people.
00:19:14.000 What I've always hoped as a person that's lived in areas with a high Muslim population is that there's a way to recognize and reconcile that people of the same economic and social class, regardless of their ideological Beliefs and racial backgrounds can live harmoniously.
00:19:34.000 I would say that's probably within the context of honoring a country's origins.
00:19:38.000 And I'd say that whether you're talking about Japan or Syria or Britain, if a culture is built up, that culture should be honored, and people that live in that culture should be free to express their own cultural values, except where those cultural values are at odds with the native culture.
00:19:53.000 I would say that if I was going to go and live in Japan, I am a refugee, a migrant, albeit one that's blessed to live in the free state of Florida.
00:20:01.000 So I wonder how this conversation can evolve and unfold.
00:20:05.000 And so far, I think that Tommy Robinson is communicating very well.
00:20:09.000 Let me know what you guys think in the comments and chat.
00:20:12.000 Jumped on a story, took a side without knowing the truth.
00:20:16.000 Or worse still, knowing it but hiding it.
00:20:19.000 Because the truth didn't fit their narrative.
00:20:21.000 Yes, Mercy, mate.
00:20:22.000 Say about his communicating, but like, let's be honest, when it comes to the UK, people don't like the way he communicates.
00:20:29.000 There's a massive class divide in the UK, which he's a working class gazer kind of thing.
00:20:34.000 And people immediately put people like that down.
00:20:37.000 Whenever I speak to anyone about Tommy Robinson, if ever he comes up, they'll always say he's a Nazi, he's a this, he's a that.
00:20:43.000 And I'm like, oh yeah, tell me more.
00:20:45.000 And they can't tell me more.
00:20:46.000 And it all comes down to the way he speaks, the way he behaves.
00:20:49.000 Yeah, but I would say I agree with you.
00:20:53.000 But I would say that here in this documentary, doing his bit to camera, that this isn't the same as when you see him sometimes on a podcast and he seems a little bit amped up.
00:21:04.000 Now, in a way, I identify with if Tommy Robinson feels like he's under attack, he is under attack.
00:21:10.000 This is someone who's been under attack most of his life as he's tried to work out how to express that where he's from in Luton, it seems like there's a hostility between the working class white people and as he always says, Sikhs and black folk and the Muslim population.
00:21:30.000 Now, I've always been sympathetic to British Muslims in particular because I note that whenever communities are turned against one another, both of those communities lose and the establishment benefits.
00:21:45.000 So what my interest is in Tommy Robinson is that he's an authentic working class voice that I believe ought be supported.
00:21:54.000 And even in the areas where I reckon I would disagree with him, I would like to see if there are ways to advance the conversation without getting into jingoism, xenophobia or other difficult territories.
00:22:09.000 But what I'm mindful of is that perhaps a lot of things I think about Tommy Robinson might have come from the appraisal I've received from watching legacy media and from a lot of people's, as you point out, Massey, biases towards people that speak how he does.
00:22:26.000 If you're an American, you won't be aware of the nuances around class, but our little light-hearted conversation about vernacular slang and cursing earlier is a kind of indication of some of the unique aspects of British cultural life, which is still an old establishment country with a deep, steeped tradition when it comes to power.
00:22:47.000 We have a royal family.
00:22:48.000 We have a king.
00:22:49.000 I don't know if that's a good thing anymore or not when I look at some of the alternatives.
00:22:54.000 But when you look at the American establishment, in some senses, it's a global establishment because American global imperialism is corporate and commercial in nature.
00:23:06.000 And the British establishment has sort of deep, deep roots, deep, deep bloodlines.
00:23:12.000 Plant like Lancashire, Yorkshire, the plant, like there are old families and old ideas and old institutions that are quite difficult, even if you live there to understand.
00:23:24.000 I suppose because we grew up in the fog of it.
00:23:27.000 But, you know, what I'm saying is, is that there's something different about the way he's communicating here to how I see him when he feels like he's under attack because he's under attack.
00:23:35.000 And I know what that's like because I feel like I've been in the dock for years, you know?
00:23:38.000 Yeah, I think core values are important to see, like, how would you rank what's important to you?
00:23:44.000 So if fairness is really important to you, then you might go, this guy's not fair or equal.
00:23:48.000 But if authenticity is important to you, then you'd go, I like this guy.
00:23:52.000 So like the read that I get from just watching him talk, I go, I like this guy.
00:23:58.000 Whether you believe or agree with everything that he says, you at least know that seems to be authentically who he is.
00:24:06.000 I reckon increasingly, Jake, that metric will become significant that you might say, I don't agree with that person, but at least they're telling the truth.
00:24:14.000 At least they're authentic.
00:24:15.000 Like say someone like in British politics like Jeremy Corbyn, like whether you agree with him or not, he's authentic and he's telling you the truth.
00:24:24.000 And he's not just someone who's trying to make a bunch of money out of politics.
00:24:28.000 You know, then there are other figures like Nigel Farage.
00:24:31.000 In a way, we're going to have to see, I think, in the UK in particular, new consortiums, new alliances, new political affiliations, or we'll continue to yield to what he sort of, he parenthesized and sort of verbally italicized words like progressive and liberal, because those words are not about progressing and they're certainly not about freedom.
00:24:52.000 They're ways of couching a conversation to ensure maximum bureaucratic power and division among the people that could most likely oppose institutional elitism.
00:25:02.000 Let's crack on.
00:25:03.000 Because the truth didn't fit their narrative, regardless of the human cost.
00:25:08.000 And we'll ask three important questions.
00:25:11.000 Firstly, is the media accountable to anyone in any way for what they report?
00:25:15.000 Years after the Leviton inquiry, has anything changed or do they continue to act with impunity?
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00:25:37.000 Secondly, is our legal system still fit for purpose?
00:25:40.000 We will show how lawyers who hate Britain but love jihadi warriors have weaponised the law system against us and how the legal system really only works for the rich.
00:25:50.000 And finally, how do we keep our politicians accountable?
00:25:54.000 If the police, the courts and the state can silence anyone for speaking inconvenient truths.
00:26:00.000 Truths that may raise questions about government policy.
00:26:03.000 Is the UK any different from China, Russia, or Iran in their treatment of dissidents?
00:26:09.000 And of course, for Piers Morgan, for Jeremy Fine, for the BBC ITV and Channel 4, it's a tutorial on journalism.
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00:26:18.000 *Music*
00:26:26.000 Our story appears to start and end in a brief playground incident at Almondbury Community School in Huddersfield.
00:26:32.000 A playground scuffle.
00:26:34.000 One boy pulled a bottle of water on another child, the school dealt with it, and that should have been that.
00:26:39.000 Three weeks later, however, a video clip of the incident surfaced and within hours, with the help of lawyers and the ignorant rantings of ITV's Piers Morgan and the BBC's Jeremy Vine, it was made into global news event.
00:26:51.000 And the lives of so many people were turned upside down.
00:26:55.000 Such playground incidents happen every day.
00:26:57.000 So why was this spat between two boys transformed into global news?
00:27:03.000 Well, one of the boys was white and the other a Syrian refugee.
00:27:07.000 At which point the truth of the matter was buried beneath an avalanche of agendas and opportunism.
00:27:12.000 Within hours, the race hate brigade was sharpening their blades.
00:27:15.000 Clearly when somebody comes from Syria fleeing Assad's regime, coming to a place like this, when they get treated that way, that's an issue.
00:27:25.000 And the whole world is looking at it.
00:27:28.000 Where are we?
00:27:28.000 We're in Almondbury.
00:27:30.000 Do I say the scene of the incident?
00:27:32.000 Is it a scene in the incident?
00:27:33.000 It's the scene of the great lie.
00:27:35.000 I'll call it the great lie.
00:27:37.000 One of the things you might want to pay attention to is the evident poverty in the background.
00:27:41.000 And that for me tells a story that's important in British cultural life.
00:27:46.000 When you're looking at, say, a mayor running in New York now under apparent progressive socialist policies, free school lunches, free this, free that, people will focus on his cultural values and what his views are on, say, queer or transgender politics.
00:27:59.000 And those things are interesting in a variety of ways, I suppose.
00:28:02.000 But when you look at the wealth inequality in the UK and in your country and the transfer of wealth that took place in the pandemic, it shows me, and I hope you feel this as well, that there's an opportunity for alliances for people that are, hmm, let's say working ordinary people across the world.
00:28:21.000 I'm not talking about socialism.
00:28:23.000 I'm not talking about empowering the state.
00:28:24.000 I'm talking about empowering people.
00:28:25.000 I'm talking about decentralization.
00:28:27.000 I'm saying if there are people that want to live in communities that their value system is informed by Islam, they should be able to run their communities on that basis.
00:28:35.000 If there are people that want to live traditional Christian lives, they should be able to run their communities on that basis.
00:28:41.000 Now, I suppose the problem begins when there is opposition between those communities or who is in charge of a particular place or a particular space.
00:28:49.000 But I think that's an easier problem to resolve through communication, through diplomacy, if you acknowledge that the way that the state and the media behave heightens and increases those tensions rather than decreasing them.
00:29:02.000 Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.
00:29:05.000 I'm not suggesting these are difficult, easy problems to solve.
00:29:08.000 Of course they're not.
00:29:08.000 They're difficult, but they are easier to solve than us imagining that centralized bureaucracies and corporate and commercial entities care about anything other than increasing the economic disparity that you can see in the background of that shot.
00:29:23.000 He's walking past the home.
00:29:25.000 We skip out the front, like a sort of, I guess you would call it a dumpster.
00:29:29.000 And that for me is an important aspect of this story.
00:29:32.000 People are poor, scrambling around for resources, living in desperation.
00:29:37.000 And I reckon we'll see a lot more of that in this documentary.
00:29:39.000 Scene of the Great Lie.
00:29:40.000 I'll call it the Great Lie because this lie was pushed around the globe.
00:29:45.000 This here is the school where the world was told a Syrian refugee was waterboarded by a racist English bully.
00:29:54.000 I was in a playing field here.
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00:32:04.000 We're going to be watching a little more of Tommy Robinson's documentary.
00:32:08.000 Have a look.
00:32:08.000 It's the school where the world was told a Syrian refugee was waterboarded by a racist English bully.
00:32:16.000 I was in a playing field here and you know what?
00:32:18.000 This is the first time I've been here because when this blew up on the news.
00:32:22.000 Notice world that schools look like prisons now as well.
00:32:24.000 Like I know in a lot of American schools you've got to have metal detectors and stuff like that.
00:32:27.000 What's going on there man?
00:32:29.000 Like are these institutions working?
00:32:31.000 Time I've been here.
00:32:32.000 Because when this blew up on the news it's a child's school.
00:32:35.000 Kids are in school.
00:32:36.000 I didn't come outside here.
00:32:37.000 You'd see the scenes outside here where the Imam was here with mobs of men.
00:32:41.000 Yeah?
00:32:42.000 Mobs of Muslim men.
00:32:43.000 Extremists traveled up from London, such as Ali Dawah, to cause a scene outside this kids' school.
00:32:49.000 Anyway, but I'm here.
00:32:50.000 Why am I here?
00:32:51.000 I'm here because I face a court case.
00:32:52.000 I'm being prosecuted.
00:32:54.000 It's gone to the high court and I have to prove I made a video stating that it was a lie, stating that Jamal wasn't innocent and telling some facts about Jamal beating up girls, an instance that I'd been warned about by the members of this community to tell the truth about what happened at this school.
00:33:08.000 I've got to prove it in court.
00:33:10.000 So I've come to Huddersfield.
00:33:11.000 I'm now going to knock.
00:33:12.000 I need to find witnesses.
00:33:13.000 I've got addresses for many.
00:33:15.000 I need to knock and talk to them and see who I can get to come to court to help me prove to you, the public.
00:33:22.000 This is about as much as proving in court as proving to you, the British public, that I was the only journalist in the country who told the truth about what happened in this community.
00:33:31.000 The story you were told.
00:33:34.000 You were told that a vulnerable Syrian child refugee had been bullied and waterboarded by a nasty white boy.
00:33:40.000 You were told it was a racist attack.
00:33:42.000 You were told of the dangers of far-right extremism.
00:33:45.000 You were invited to agree that this kind of intolerance could not be tolerated.
00:33:50.000 Was he vulnerable?
00:33:52.000 Was it a racist attack?
00:33:53.000 Our evidence shows the answers to both these questions was no.
00:33:57.000 Was the Syrian lad waterboarded?
00:33:59.000 Why was this word used?
00:34:01.000 What about this?
00:34:06.000 Was that waterboarding?
00:34:09.000 Take a look at this.
00:34:22.000 It shows a group of non- Oh man, school's terrifying.
00:34:24.000 I'm so glad I'm not in school anymore.
00:34:26.000 Do you remember school?
00:34:27.000 Do you remember school?
00:34:28.000 Like having to have a fight?
00:34:29.000 Like go over to the park, have a route?
00:34:31.000 Oh, I'm so glad that's over.
00:34:33.000 Terrifying, awful school.
00:34:37.000 It shows a group of non-white children beating up a white girl.
00:34:40.000 It went viral online, but it wasn't touched by the mainstream media.
00:34:45.000 It wasn't made into a global story.
00:34:48.000 Why not?
00:34:49.000 Meanwhile, the usual suspects had lit the fire and were gleefully stoking the flames.
00:34:54.000 Everybody was exposing the scumbag that did this, who I hope gets severe retribution.
00:34:59.000 And of course, the politicians.
00:35:01.000 They're always quick to jump on the bandwagon.
00:35:04.000 Theresa May, Sajit Javid, Nas Shah, Nicholas Soames, Winston Churchill's grandson.
00:35:13.000 Such moral outrage.
00:35:16.000 And it's not just the media and the politicians.
00:35:19.000 In today's Twitter and Facebook-driven worlds where celebrities and groups compete to virtue signal, most of them driven by the warm feeling they get by expressing their moral outrage or by fear.
00:35:30.000 The fear of what might happen to them if they don't.
00:35:33.000 Everyone who's anyone pumped the Bailey Jamal story.
00:35:38.000 Boxers, Lennox Lewis, Huddersfield Football Club, celebrities from across the globe.
00:35:43.000 Let's have a look at all of the celebrities and blue tick brigade who pumped the Jamal story.
00:35:50.000 And here are some of the people who pumped the story you watched earlier of the white girl getting beaten up.
00:35:58.000 Sadly, whether it's politicians, celebrities or other groups, none of them are wise enough or pause long enough to ask whether they have the whole story.
00:36:07.000 To check the facts, to find the truth.
00:36:11.000 But why let the truth get in the way of such a good story?
00:36:15.000 And this story was just too good a story.
00:36:18.000 Two Lads in a Playground scrap is not international news.
00:36:22.000 But racist, white thug, waterboards, helpless Syrian refugee, boom!
00:36:27.000 Racism can't be tolerated, beware of the far right.
00:36:30.000 That's their kind of story.
00:36:32.000 We'll hear more about the militant left later, but they clearly weren't gonna miss out on this.
00:36:44.000 We're in a room, we're in a room.
00:36:44.000 Representing might be too harsh a word, but I'm here as a concerned citizen.
00:36:50.000 Muhammad Amim Pandor, a Mufti on a mission.
00:36:53.000 He rushed to Almanbury from his mosque in Bati, a town at the far end of the district.
00:36:57.000 In fact, there's 40 mosques closer to this school.
00:37:01.000 But perhaps Mufti Pandor had his own agenda.
00:37:04.000 You see, his little brother Councillor Shabir Pandor is the leader of Kirkland's council in Hudsfield.
00:37:09.000 And they were having some pretty bad news days at that time.
00:37:12.000 By the way, Mufti Pandor, he's the same guy who ordered the Islamic mob to come to the school in Batli and demand the sacking of the RE teacher who showed a cartoon of Muhammad in a discussion about free speech.
00:37:23.000 Look at what we do as a community and you'll understand our stance.
00:37:26.000 So what has happened is totally unacceptable.
00:37:30.000 And we have made sure that the school understands that.
00:37:32.000 The teacher has been suspended.
00:37:35.000 The teacher has been suspended.
00:37:38.000 Oh man, in a sense, even if you extract for a minute the subject of the documentary, which seems to be about media exploitation of an incident, which is a continual thing, that's primarily what the media does now is it highlights, amplifies, tweaks, distorts, changes stories to suit a narrative.
00:38:00.000 Isn't it extraordinary to see just a few years ago, people wearing masks, masks pulled down into beards, police wearing masks?
00:38:07.000 Think about that now.
00:38:08.000 How many of us would wear masks right now if we were given the same opportunity and the information we have now about COVID, its transmission, the efficacy of masks, the lethality of COVID?
00:38:22.000 In a way, you could see during this period, whether it's the Black Lives Matter protests or other social movements, that we were living in a kind of crucible of hysteria anyway.
00:38:34.000 And into this crucible goes information that I think maximizes disunity and conflict.
00:38:42.000 I feel that British Muslims have a right to live their lives and express their faith in freely.
00:38:51.000 That's what I believe.
00:38:52.000 I also believe that British working class people have the, that are white and Sikh and Christian and atheist and whatever Else, have the same rights.
00:39:02.000 And what I feel like is that the media's contribution to this incident is not beneficial.
00:39:08.000 It's ultimately like the British Empire was built on a sort of a famous little maxim: divide and conquer.
00:39:14.000 All empires require that the general population doesn't realize, wait a minute, we've got more in common with one another than these people that benefit from stoking conflicts between us.
00:39:25.000 Let's see if there are ways that we can manage our social resources and our territories and our rights cohesively together rather than continually being conducted by forces that benefit from us being continually trapped in conflicts.
00:39:41.000 I mean, throughout history, surely there have been ways where Jews and Christians and Muslims have got to find ways of getting on.
00:39:49.000 And I know that whether it's Crusades or Ottoman Empire or the various diasporas and pogroms against Jewish people, this has been a history beset by conflict and disaster and by suffering.
00:40:01.000 But what is amazing about this is that it literally starts between two kids and you can tweak this story however you want.
00:40:09.000 And it makes, you see, there was that very successful knife crime documentary, not documentary, not documentary, scripted drama that starred Stephen Graham, brilliant English actor.
00:40:19.000 And people kind of jumped on that and used that to tell this story.
00:40:25.000 We don't want ordinary young men empowered.
00:40:28.000 Let's vilify that movement, whether it's sort of Andrew Tate, who's a person that has challenges and has said some pretty crazy stuff, but he represents a sort of a, I would say, a kind of a constitution and a mindset that has to be kind of heard.
00:40:43.000 Same with Tommy Robinson, same with other voices in this territory.
00:40:46.000 It's all getting kind of shut down and polluted, not to protect you, not to help you, but to control you.
00:40:52.000 That's, I guess, the main argument that I'm kind of pushing here.
00:40:55.000 Well, you think, what is the goal of all this, right?
00:40:58.000 The truth is not the goal anymore.
00:41:01.000 Like, what is the truth?
00:41:02.000 That's not the goal.
00:41:03.000 Peace is not the goal.
00:41:05.000 So nobody's going to disarm anyone.
00:41:08.000 No one's going to de-escalate.
00:41:10.000 So that's not the goal.
00:41:12.000 And then the news travels so fast, everyone reacts to one headline and then it's off like wildfire.
00:41:17.000 And for someone to stop and pause and to say, what is the truth and get to the bottom of it, it's going to take too long because there's going to be new news that's going to happen the very next day.
00:41:28.000 I know in the chat right now, people will be saying, like, Israel funded Tommy Robinson and that kind of stuff.
00:41:33.000 Or there'll be people saying that he's racist.
00:41:36.000 And I guess my point is, why would you exclude this voice from the conversation?
00:41:41.000 Who has the right to exclude this voice from the conversation?
00:41:44.000 And given that Elon Musk reposting this documentary has ultimately led to an inquiry, why don't we just accept that you have to have complicated conversations with people with a variety of views and recognize that there's probably more chance of alliance, cohesion and peace between those groups without the intervention of the current systems we have?
00:42:04.000 Tolerance does not mean agreement.
00:42:06.000 It does not have to mean agreement.
00:42:08.000 I think people confuse that.
00:42:10.000 It's weird, isn't it, how in our interpersonal lives, most of us can get along with people with a variety of views in ways that they can't when it's filtered through the prism of the culture.
00:42:21.000 Once it gets into the culture, it seems that it's more likely to heighten tensions.
00:42:26.000 And far from being a Luddite, I believe actually that the advances in AI and telecommunications more generally could be used to create diplomatic communicative peace between various groups and establish new ideas of what a state or what a nation even means.
00:42:43.000 I think there could be new conversations.
00:42:46.000 People don't use the word Christendom anymore, for example, do they?
00:42:49.000 They don't think that this is the Christian world.
00:42:51.000 There's so much fracture.
00:42:53.000 I think the tendency is towards decentralization and honoring decentralization.
00:42:57.000 We're not going to live in a conflict-free world.
00:42:59.000 This isn't paradise.
00:43:00.000 This isn't Valhalla.
00:43:02.000 This isn't heaven.
00:43:03.000 This isn't Shang-ReLa, whatever your idea of utopia is.
00:43:06.000 This is going to be a place that's beset with conflict.
00:43:09.000 But surely the principles we live by should be maximally affording us the opportunity to honor and acknowledge these differences.
00:43:16.000 And first, we have to recognize that our current systems of power, whether they are media, government or corporate, are invested in increasing conflict.
00:43:26.000 With that acknowledgement, we might be able to have more sensible conversations among one another.
00:43:30.000 Get off!
00:43:43.000 You may recall the teacher had to flee and he's still in hiding under police protection.
00:43:48.000 Luckily, he hasn't ended up like Samuel Patty, the French teacher who was beheaded for having a similar discussion in a classroom about free speech.
00:43:58.000 You see, free speech is essential for any society wishing to maintain intellectual and social progress.
00:44:03.000 But not all societies are bothered about intellectual and social progress.
00:44:07.000 Should we be silenced by the demands of Mufti Pandor and Sharia law?
00:44:13.000 Should we sacrifice our freedom of speech?
00:44:16.000 Should we sacrifice the free and open exchange of ideas?
00:44:21.000 Should we sacrifice the cultural inheritance of which we are all custodians?
00:44:26.000 But back to the bad news days in Kirkleys and the playground incident in 2018.
00:44:32.000 There was also Kirkley's counsellor Masood Ahmed.
00:44:35.000 I'm not aware of there's a problem at the school.
00:44:39.000 That's something I'm starting to find out in terms of that there is a problem at the school and that is something I will definitely be picking up.
00:44:47.000 Now some of you may remember this.
00:44:49.000 Michael is going to explain what's going to happen next right now.
00:44:51.000 You're being arrested.
00:44:53.000 I am being arrested.
00:44:54.000 I've been causing a breach of peace.
00:44:57.000 I've caused a breach of peace.
00:44:58.000 I'm being arrested.
00:44:59.000 But the content of what you're streaming.
00:45:01.000 The content of what I'm streaming.
00:45:03.000 I'm being arrested for breach of the peace.
00:45:05.000 I'm being arrested for breach of the peace.
00:45:06.000 You've all watched this.
00:45:09.000 You've all watched it.
00:45:10.000 Can you get me a sniffer?
00:45:11.000 Can you get me a sniffer?
00:45:14.000 Can you get me a snitch up?
00:45:14.000 Doing up a white peace, please.
00:45:16.000 Do you want to stand on what I've just said to you?
00:45:18.000 Daniel, can you just explain it again?
00:45:19.000 Do you want to rest in the suspicion of breach of the peace?
00:45:21.000 What does that mean?
00:45:22.000 What does that mean?
00:45:24.000 At the same time as this playground spat between two young lads, 20 Huddersfield men were being jailed across Yorkshire At Leeds Crown Court for what would be the biggest grooming gang Britain has ever seen.
00:45:35.000 Ultimately, 35 almost exclusively Muslim men would be given 380 years in prison for grooming, trafficking and raping young children, most of whom were known to Councillor Pandor's Kirkleys Council.
00:45:49.000 Mufti Pandor travelled for half an hour to rabble-rouse a gang outside the school gates over this playground incident.
00:45:55.000 When within a couple of mile radius in Batley, police have arrested a further 99 men in relation to historic sex crimes.
00:46:03.000 So far, 32 have been charged, including one Ibrahim Pandor, 41 of Batley.
00:46:10.000 That makes it the highest destination of grooming gang arrests anywhere in the UK.
00:46:14.000 We Google to see what Mufti Pandor has said about these grooming gang atrocities.
00:46:20.000 Nothing.
00:46:20.000 We Googled to see what Councillor Masood Ahmed's condemnation.
00:46:25.000 Nothing.
00:46:26.000 In fact, we can't find the condemnation from the Mufti's brother either, Councillor Shabir Pandor, leader of the council.
00:46:32.000 Just one statement from him reported in June 2019 telling the National Working Group of Child Sexual Exploitation Response Unit that his authority had moved forward.
00:46:43.000 That's it.
00:46:45.000 They've moved on.
00:46:46.000 Never mind grooming gangs, gang rape of young children.
00:46:49.000 All these men seem to be far more concerned about what happened in a playground at Ormondbury Community School.
00:46:54.000 Or about cartoons of their prophet Mohammed.
00:47:06.000 I think I now realise how difficult this is going to be because everyone we've spoken to today, they're all confirming what I said was true.
00:47:12.000 Everyone's confirming what Jamal was like, including school staff.
00:47:16.000 But as soon as I mentioned this camera, as soon as I mentioned court, I need someone to come to court, they just totally silent straight away.
00:47:24.000 No, no one can have said that.
00:47:25.000 No one can have said this.
00:47:26.000 If you jump in, it's raining.
00:47:28.000 I'm realising how difficult it's going to be, but I have got an idea for that now after today.
00:47:32.000 But first off, McDonald's, yeah.
00:47:34.000 Let's go to McDonald's because I'm starving.
00:47:36.000 It's been a long day.
00:47:37.000 That is the British Working Club.
00:47:39.000 He's out there.
00:47:39.000 He's making documentaries.
00:47:40.000 He's straight to McDonald's.
00:47:43.000 Now, Tommy, can I talk to you about organic food and permacultures that all communities should be growing and rearing their own meat?
00:47:49.000 And we have to rise up against McDonald's with the same fervor that we would rise up against other forms of invasive ideology.
00:47:57.000 Corporatism, commercialism, bad diets, anti-Maha modalities have to be opposed with the same enthusiasm.
00:48:04.000 Although who don't like them milkshakes in a Big Mac once in a while, baby.
00:48:07.000 It's a long day.
00:48:08.000 Yeah, I'll see you on a YouTube.
00:48:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:11.000 Smaller in real life, huh?
00:48:12.000 Nice to see you.
00:48:13.000 Nice to meet you, man.
00:48:13.000 Shall we offer you anything?
00:48:15.000 No, I'm fine, thank you.
00:48:16.000 Cheers, though.
00:48:16.000 Yeah, thanks, man.
00:48:17.000 Nice to see you.
00:48:18.000 Thank you.
00:48:19.000 You think that's British people?
00:48:21.000 Right, I'm hungry.
00:48:21.000 I can't do this no more.
00:48:23.000 Whether it's a documentary on sort of heightening tensions between British people of different identities, or whether it's just me here.
00:48:31.000 Oh, I can't do it anymore.
00:48:32.000 I'm famished.
00:48:33.000 Take me to Wendy's.
00:48:34.000 That's so good just to go right to say McDonald's too.
00:48:38.000 Like that, he had to say that in the documentary.
00:48:41.000 Yeah.
00:48:41.000 It's raining.
00:48:42.000 Let's go inside.
00:48:43.000 I'm hungry.
00:48:43.000 Let's go to McDonald's.
00:48:45.000 I don't need to edit that out.
00:48:46.000 That guy's a genuine guy.
00:48:48.000 There's no doubt.
00:48:50.000 Yeah, thanks, man.
00:48:51.000 Nice to see you.
00:48:52.000 Thank you, bruv.
00:48:52.000 Hello.
00:48:53.000 Steve, how are you, mate?
00:48:55.000 Tommy.
00:48:56.000 I'm good, mate.
00:48:58.000 Bro, mate, have you still got all those hidden cameras?
00:49:02.000 Yeah, of course I have.
00:49:03.000 Yeah.
00:49:04.000 Could I borrow them?
00:49:05.000 I like the way this guy operates, man.
00:49:08.000 He's probably eating those beef tallow fries from McDonald's in the UK, unlike in America where it's added everything.
00:49:16.000 It's not even real.
00:49:18.000 Do you think he's going to set up hidden cameras in McDonald's and do an expose on their sort of their labor practices or the quality of their ingredients?
00:49:26.000 I see there could be a collaboration.
00:49:28.000 Or maybe a sponsorship partnership.
00:49:31.000 Yeah, but when I say borrow them, can I borrow?
00:49:33.000 I'm going to need to take them for weeks because I've got so much to do.
00:49:36.000 It's a long story.
00:49:36.000 I'll explain when I see you.
00:49:38.000 But I'm in a bit of a situation and I need some hidden cameras.
00:49:46.000 That's it.
00:49:47.000 So that's the idea.
00:49:48.000 The idea is, I've got a friend there, Secret Steve, who has all sorts of cameras, yeah?
00:49:54.000 He's a private investigator.
00:49:55.000 I need to show the public everything I've heard today.
00:49:58.000 Yeah, Secret Steve.
00:50:00.000 When I say borrow, I mean I'm going to keep them for a very long time.
00:50:07.000 Today, I need to know the truth.
00:50:09.000 I need them to know how much they've been lied to by the media about what happened in this town.
00:50:14.000 And the only way, unfortunately, the only way I'm going to be able to do that is with hidden cameras because today I've heard the truth, but I need every one of you to know the truth.
00:50:24.000 And everyone's too scared.
00:50:26.000 That's why I said Project Fear.
00:50:27.000 Everyone is too scared to speak the truth or to come to court.
00:50:30.000 So I'm going to end up getting hammered in court.
00:50:33.000 The whole world told I've lied.
00:50:35.000 When I haven't, I was the only journalist in the UK who told the truth.
00:50:39.000 So we need to prove it.
00:50:39.000 So we'll shoot down the motorway now.
00:50:41.000 We'll go get these hidden cameras.
00:50:42.000 These are all...
00:50:48.000 There's a camera in there.
00:50:50.000 That's the camera.
00:50:51.000 Mad, isn't it?
00:50:52.000 It's the camera there.
00:50:54.000 You've got everything here.
00:50:55.000 Cameras, glasses.
00:50:56.000 I don't wear glasses, so that's going to be awkward.
00:50:59.000 That's the bottom of a coffee cup.
00:51:01.000 So you put that on the bottom of the coffee cup.
00:51:03.000 feel like james bond This today, that's the camera.
00:51:19.000 I'll have to take this off, but it doesn't matter because apparently this records all the audio, records everything.
00:51:24.000 That's the camera, and I feel a little bit dirty doing this.
00:51:27.000 But it is the only way I'm going to get people to speak.
00:51:31.000 And then I need you to hear what I hear.
00:51:33.000 The idea that people would maraude the streets looking for him was appalling.
00:51:38.000 The fact that the video itself, although it showed the accumulation of things that built up to that, did not deserve what happened to him or to anybody else in that situation.
00:51:52.000 I'm afraid the media, I call it the perfect storm, I was getting emails from Pakistan, from Australia, from America telling me to resign.
00:52:01.000 So it went worldwide and I'm afraid I came into teaching to help poor people, and they got rid of me.
00:52:13.000 I've got a problem here.
00:52:16.000 I lost my job over this, and as a result, the councillors told me that I cannot speak to anybody ever about it.
00:52:24.000 So, unfortunately.
00:52:26.000 Well, you asked to go over tomorrow anything.
00:52:29.000 I was there when it happened.
00:52:31.000 I was there when I dealt with all the situation.
00:52:34.000 And then Ostead came, then Trevor wasn't there anymore.
00:52:41.000 That's all I can say.
00:52:43.000 I've got to get a job.
00:52:45.000 So that's where it's left me.
00:52:47.000 And I can live with that, but barely only 15.
00:52:53.000 I can't live with that.
00:52:54.000 That's different.
00:52:57.000 He's a young man with a life that he should be an articulate lad, he's got a lot about him.
00:53:03.000 That's terrible.
00:53:04.000 I can't.
00:53:05.000 No, no.
00:53:06.000 If I do, I could have got myself into real trouble.
00:53:08.000 No, okay.
00:53:09.000 I could have been really serious trouble, legal trouble because part of the council's Correct.
00:53:16.000 So they've said you can't discuss it.
00:53:18.000 I'm not with the NBA, so you keep attention.
00:53:20.000 So you get attention.
00:53:21.000 Yeah.
00:53:22.000 Fucking hell, bro.
00:53:24.000 I have to be very careful about what I say to it.
00:53:27.000 I'm not allowed to talk about it.
00:53:28.000 I really am not.
00:53:29.000 So I can't discuss it.
00:53:30.000 I can't discuss it with the media.
00:53:32.000 I've always wanted to have my say which I've never had.
00:53:36.000 Never been allowed to have.
00:53:38.000 Never allowed to say goodbye to my staff.
00:53:40.000 I was just told to leave.
00:53:42.000 So I worked there nearly 30 years, sorry, 20 years, and never got a card, never got a goodbye.
00:53:50.000 This whole thing was just used.
00:53:51.000 The whole thing was used to push them in and hijacked and by the right political, I'm quite a political person, by the right and the left.
00:54:01.000 It was hijacked and spun all out of propulsion and now we've got problems.
00:54:07.000 But essentially what you'll meet is a wall of silence.
00:54:12.000 What a mess.
00:54:14.000 It is a mess, but it's a tragedy.
00:54:16.000 It's a tragedy for Burley.
00:54:18.000 I'm not sure Jamal will get anything out of this ever in his life, positive out of it either, necessarily.
00:54:24.000 He might have got a few silver coins from Judas, but that's about it.
00:54:28.000 You know, that's it.
00:54:29.000 The thing is that he instantly having six weeks prior, or weeks prior, and they're on the same day at the same time.
00:54:34.000 I've looked at the timings, the GoFundMe sub, the statements release.
00:54:37.000 Right, now you see your pulling picture together.
00:54:39.000 And then they're built up.
00:54:40.000 I couldn't comment on that, but he's running a picture there.
00:54:43.000 And built it up as a racial student.
00:54:46.000 He's seeing he's English perfect.
00:54:49.000 Job done.
00:54:54.000 Already, that's gold, yeah.
00:54:55.000 I know that's gold.
00:54:56.000 All I hope, I hope that's recorded.
00:54:58.000 I can't turn the computer on.
00:54:59.000 So I just pray that it's got the audio and the visual and it's not pointing up there.
00:55:06.000 And that's the first visit.
00:55:08.000 And I know this is going to work.
00:55:11.000 I know.
00:55:12.000 I didn't think he'd talk before he shut the door in my face.
00:55:14.000 He didn't.
00:55:15.000 He seemed like he wanted to talk.
00:55:16.000 There's a lot he wants to say.
00:55:18.000 So, but yeah, let's go.
00:55:19.000 Next question.
00:55:22.000 Sorry.
00:55:23.000 Was there a racism problem in the school?
00:55:25.000 Well, no, I don't think there was.
00:55:28.000 What about other Syrian refugees?
00:55:30.000 Do you think what happened to Jamal in the school was because he was a Syrian refugee?
00:55:34.000 No, not at all.
00:55:35.000 I told you before.
00:55:36.000 That would have happened if the child was white, big, blue, whatever colour.
00:55:40.000 They're all scared.
00:55:42.000 A lot of careers, aren't they?
00:55:44.000 I work for probation service now.
00:55:45.000 You do now?
00:55:46.000 Yeah.
00:55:47.000 So I don't know where I stand with it.
00:55:51.000 If I go, I could lose my job.
00:55:54.000 So they seem to be pretty keen on these NDAs.
00:55:57.000 Who is that?
00:55:57.000 The police council.
00:55:59.000 But I can't disclose that with you.
00:56:01.000 That for?
00:56:03.000 Lords.
00:56:04.000 I won't say I can't disclose it because I signed it.
00:56:07.000 That incident was talked about by Theresa May at a G20 summit.
00:56:16.000 Somebody asked her a question about it.
00:56:19.000 We were then off-steaded by five of the top inspectors in the country.
00:56:28.000 But only from one registered inspector.
00:56:31.000 We had the head of safeguarding.
00:56:33.000 I had a manuspi on the head of off-stead speaking to me about it.
00:56:38.000 If you want my honest opinion, they said, get up there, I don't know who the day it is.
00:56:44.000 Get up there and shut that school.
00:56:46.000 Get up there and get rid of this.
00:56:48.000 Get rid of the problem.
00:56:49.000 By the baby.
00:56:49.000 Correct.
00:56:50.000 Open your mouth.
00:56:51.000 Correct.
00:56:51.000 Get up there and get up and get rid of it.
00:56:53.000 But why do you think that?
00:56:54.000 Do you think, because I'm not thinking now, do you remember?
00:56:56.000 Because you come here two years ago, I've got so many negative things said about him now by so many people.
00:57:01.000 I mean, so many.
00:57:02.000 I mean, I've got two big children.
00:57:05.000 I've got to make a problem.
00:57:06.000 We have nine student children, nine families.
00:57:10.000 We're not going to be shooting.
00:57:12.000 Well, my view is that you won't get much of an answer out of the problem because you work there by various companies.
00:57:21.000 None the scholars agree with us.
00:57:23.000 Do you get paid as well?
00:57:24.000 Nothing to do.
00:57:26.000 They all have.
00:57:26.000 Every teacher got paid, not to tell the truth.
00:57:28.000 But the head teacher can't even talk about Jamel at all.
00:57:31.000 No, neither can you.
00:57:32.000 But if you should.
00:57:34.000 Well, if you work it out, it must be a good one, mustn't you?
00:57:37.000 Oh, yeah.
00:57:37.000 Did you work there as well?
00:57:38.000 I was the chair of governors there but so it's it's not what my issue is that No, no, no, yeah.
00:57:45.000 And Rob wouldn't talk to you either, so it's pointless.
00:57:47.000 It's pointless me even giving you a question.
00:57:49.000 But I told the truth.
00:57:51.000 Your contact detail wouldn't work with that.
00:57:53.000 I told the truth about what happened that day.
00:57:55.000 I am not even arguing.
00:57:56.000 His life was destroyed.
00:57:58.000 Well, that's not fair either, is it?
00:57:59.000 As a racist bully, he wasn't.
00:58:01.000 And he wasn't.
00:58:02.000 You and I both know that.
00:58:04.000 The truth is just.
00:58:06.000 How much money is it?
00:58:08.000 I can't see the finger because if I see the finger, it goes out.
00:58:11.000 Because my...
00:58:19.000 18.
00:58:20.000 I've just found out.
00:58:23.000 The head teachers told us already that he was blackmailed and threatened.
00:58:26.000 I've just found out I've killed him.
00:58:28.000 He was paid 18 times ago.
00:58:34.000 I was paid.
00:58:35.000 He was paid money.
00:58:37.000 He was paid money by the local government.
00:58:39.000 so he can't tell the truth about what's going on in that school.
00:58:43.000 Then they've given everyone non-disclosure agreements from school staff to governors to and Paul Kumar to get £18,000.
00:58:51.000 He's not even involved.
00:58:53.000 Silencing everybody.
00:58:54.000 So no one can ever, this is forever, once you sign that agreement, no one can ever tell the truth while they push this manufactured lie that destroyed lives, schools, communities, everyone's life.
00:59:05.000 I've seen life after life after life, person after person's life destroyed, while the council, your local council, Kirk Police Council, give away hundreds of thousands of pounds to make sure that the truth can never be told.
00:59:17.000 I can't believe it.
00:59:19.000 I knew from day dot, I asked myself the question, when this was blowing up and I knew the truth, I kept saying, how come no teacher's telling the truth?
00:59:26.000 If all those teachers know what's going on in that school, how come none of them are coming out and saying?
00:59:31.000 Well, now we know.
00:59:33.000 Now the whole world's going to know.
00:59:35.000 Because Copenhagen Council paid them not to.
00:59:37.000 Unbelievable.
00:59:39.000 unbelievable Jamal was in your year?
00:59:50.000 Yeah, he was in the same year as me.
00:59:53.000 What was Jamal's attitude like in school?
00:59:56.000 He wasn't very nice.
00:59:58.000 He called female teachers bitches.
01:00:01.000 He just didn't really have respect for the female students, to be honest.
01:00:08.000 Yeah, basically, we were in a P lesson and we were playing hockey with a teacher called Mr. Cattell.
01:00:17.000 I had taken the hockey puck off of Jamal because I was on the other team and sent it to the other side of the room where my teammates were.
01:00:25.000 And I then turned around and just felt a really sharp pain in my back.
01:00:29.000 He'd swung the hockey stick over his head and hit me in the spine with it.
01:00:33.000 All right, thanks very much for joining us today for Russell Brands Stay Free Watch Along.
01:00:38.000 Thank you for the whole team.
01:00:39.000 Thank you, Massey, Luke, Isaac, and Jake for your contributions.
01:00:43.000 We will do another one of these next week on Tommy Robinson's documentary.
01:00:48.000 Remember, we'll be back on Monday, not with more of the same, but with more of the different.