Stay Free - Russel Brand - September 25, 2026


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00:00:09.000 Yeah.
00:00:14.000 Hey Laura Brand.
00:00:21.000 Hello.
00:00:22.000 Wherever you are in the world, maybe you're in the UK, maybe you're in Australia.
00:00:30.000 Let us know in the comments and chat.
00:00:32.000 Maybe you're in Scandinavia.
00:00:35.000 Maybe you're in Greenland.
00:00:37.000 Maybe you're in Japan.
00:00:40.000 Wherever you are, you are participants in a holy celestial colonnade of God's children.
00:00:48.000 Welcome to Sunday service with the Browns.
00:01:00.000 Of course, that was one of my favourite pieces of scores of music.
00:01:05.000 I thought you were going to say parts of your body, Russell, your upper body, nude and strong.
00:01:10.000 I want people to know that in the back of my mind, I was wondering, we'll pray in a second.
00:01:15.000 I was wondering if you go, Russell, put a shirt on because of a lack of modesty, but you don't even, did it even cross your mind?
00:01:22.000 No, I think more about like, because you're in your own home, we're on a porch, we're in quite hot weather.
00:01:30.000 I think it's okay that you aren't wearing a shirt.
00:01:33.000 I worry more when you and the kids don't wear shoes in sort of the vets and hospitals and the theme parks.
00:01:40.000 Russell didn't wear shoes in a theme park the other day, and it really kept almost getting us into quite a lot of trouble.
00:01:47.000 As the philosopher Baudrillard said, the fact that Disney World is in America distracts you from the fact that Disney World is America.
00:01:53.000 That's right.
00:01:54.000 Meaning that the CIA, if they want something specific from you, and I have this from the highest possible sources, are able to create around you a 360 diorama where your every interaction Is being coaxed into the achievement of a particular objective.
00:02:10.000 Say, if you had a bit of information they wanted, they would ensure that someone at your place of work was able to guide you this way.
00:02:16.000 Then you would have a chance encounter with someone else, and ultimately they would get that information.
00:02:21.000 There's probably public records of how these things are practiced, but I happen to have access to some esoteric information.
00:02:29.000 But all of us are in a general system of control where we're being generally shepherded.
00:02:36.000 Generally, shepherded towards here, have access to this information.
00:02:40.000 You might be arguing against this particular public figure, you might be arguing for this public figure, but as long as you're engaged in an argument confined to the vocabulary and generalized paradigm of the culture, we own your consciousness.
00:02:56.000 By consciousness, I mean attention and intelligence.
00:02:59.000 I know consciousness is more complex than that, but let's just start there.
00:03:02.000 Sri Prave.
00:03:03.000 And just to finish that thread, by the way, it was the celestial beings from.
00:03:08.000 Studio Ghibli's Princess Kagura, which is one of our favourite films.
00:03:13.000 First date, back together.
00:03:15.000 Yeah.
00:03:16.000 Back in N1, back in what year did we get back together?
00:03:19.000 We're talking a bit about.
00:03:21.000 2008, 2009?
00:03:22.000 No.
00:03:23.000 Back together?
00:03:23.000 No, sorry, 2016, 14.
00:03:28.000 Yeah.
00:03:29.000 Yeah.
00:03:30.000 I always count back from Mabel.
00:03:31.000 But when did we first meet?
00:03:34.000 Gosh.
00:03:35.000 2004, 5, 6.
00:03:37.000 Something like that.
00:03:38.000 Yeah.
00:03:39.000 We've known each other a long time, you and I, Laura.
00:03:42.000 And Mrs. Brand, during that period, have you ever known your husband?
00:03:47.000 Are you using the.
00:03:48.000 Don't use this before as a practice.
00:03:53.000 Whoa.
00:03:54.000 Practice.
00:03:54.000 What does our Lord say?
00:03:56.000 What does he say?
00:03:57.000 What about trials and tribulations?
00:03:58.000 Yeah, he says this.
00:04:02.000 He says.
00:04:03.000 No, no, this again.
00:04:04.000 You made me think while you're saying that.
00:04:05.000 You made me think of that song at the end of Studio Ghibli called When I Remember This Life.
00:04:10.000 Oh, that's a heartbreaker.
00:04:11.000 And I really want to find the English song.
00:04:13.000 Translation of it, maybe to read at some point.
00:04:15.000 It's very, very busy.
00:04:16.000 Go on, read it today.
00:04:17.000 I can't find the English.
00:04:18.000 It's coming up in Japanese, which isn't helpful for me because I can't read Japanese yet.
00:04:24.000 No, of course.
00:04:24.000 Well done.
00:04:25.000 Yeah.
00:04:25.000 Well done with it yet.
00:04:30.000 Gosh.
00:04:30.000 Okay.
00:04:30.000 Here we go.
00:04:32.000 The Tale of Princess Kagawa.
00:04:37.000 Now.
00:04:38.000 Gosh.
00:04:40.000 I remember.
00:04:40.000 Here we go.
00:04:41.000 It's translated actually as Memory of Life, but the song seems to be called.
00:04:46.000 When I remember this life.
00:04:47.000 Anyway, the joy I felt when I touched you went deep, deep down and seeped into every nook and cranny of this body.
00:04:52.000 Even if I'm far away and no longer understand anything, even when the time comes for this life to end, everything of now is everything of the past.
00:05:03.000 We'll meet again, I'm sure, in some nostalgic place.
00:05:08.000 To the some of it's blurred out, deep, deep down comes to me now complete from a time long past, steadily in my heart.
00:05:17.000 The flames of passion give light and softly soothe my pain down to the depths of my grief.
00:05:21.000 Everything now is hope for the future.
00:05:24.000 I'll remember, I'm sure, in some nostalgic place.
00:05:27.000 Everything of now is everything of the past.
00:05:29.000 We'll meet again, I'm sure, in some nostalgic place.
00:05:32.000 It goes on.
00:05:33.000 Anyway, it's a very, very beautiful Japanese, like almost sounds like a lullaby when she's singing it.
00:05:38.000 We have a Japanese friend that could maybe tell us.
00:05:41.000 I bet that I don't ever trust in translations.
00:05:44.000 No, I don't know about me.
00:05:45.000 I understand that.
00:05:46.000 For example, nostalgia, our pain.
00:05:48.000 I mean, I wonder what the Japanese equivalent is nostalgia, our pain.
00:05:52.000 Yes, I agree with you.
00:05:53.000 And also, when I look at that translation of it, I have seen another translation of it as well.
00:05:58.000 It wasn't quite the same.
00:05:59.000 The bit that is for certain is the sort of nostalgic potty in some nostalgic place.
00:06:06.000 It's extremely sad.
00:06:07.000 I remember listening to that song actually.
00:06:08.000 It's sad and beautiful.
00:06:10.000 It's at the end of, if you haven't watched Princess Kagura, it's by the sort of the anime or the Studio Ghibli Japanese anime group who did Spirited Away and Howl's Moving Castle and all those sort of great Ponyo, brilliant films.
00:06:27.000 And they're very deep.
00:06:29.000 They're very, very deep.
00:06:30.000 And I really recommend them as a sort of nourishing family film because I think you learn a lot from it.
00:06:35.000 And you can watch them with translation.
00:06:37.000 But that celestial being's procession right at the end of Princess Kagua is very moving.
00:06:43.000 And that was the music at the beginning that we were listening to.
00:06:47.000 Because it's the returning of the child to the celestial plane.
00:06:52.000 Encoded in folklore are deep and enduring truths that abide in spite of the superficial changes of culture.
00:07:02.000 These changes are always regarded as epochal, whether they are the automobile, the umbrella, the wheel, or AI.
00:07:12.000 But compared to God, these changes are nothing.
00:07:16.000 The deep truths of the one true creator are taking place in the eternal now.
00:07:23.000 I am the Alpha and the Omega.
00:07:26.000 There is nothing outside me or beyond me.
00:07:29.000 Let us begin in prayer.
00:07:32.000 Dear beloved Lord Jesus.
00:07:35.000 God, thank you that we may know you here without brokerage, without negotiation, that through every breath we may know you.
00:07:45.000 The in breath that brought Adam, the dirt clay man, to life, the exhalation of your Son, you, Lord God, Jesus Christ, Emmanuel, morning star on the cross, this exhalation.
00:08:00.000 The inhalation of Adam and the exhalation of Christ could be regarded as the single breath upon which all reality hangs, creation.
00:08:09.000 And reconciliation, Lord, may me and Laura know that reconciliation today with our temporal and digital congregation here.
00:08:17.000 Whether you're watching us, whatever app you've opened on your phone or your laptop to watch us, I'm so grateful that you are with us here now as we travel through time on this celestial parade forever.
00:08:30.000 The verse I was looking for, I think, is somewhere in Mark when you are in court, don't need to prepare, the Holy Spirit will speak for you.
00:08:40.000 Lord God, be with us as we prepare for our return to London.
00:08:45.000 Look, God, I pray for truth and justice and for the best outcome for everyone involved in this trial.
00:08:52.000 Lord, who am I, after what you endured for me, to ask for anything other than whatever you have for me and for my family?
00:09:00.000 You gave us everything.
00:09:02.000 It's all yours anyway.
00:09:04.000 Nothing belongs to us.
00:09:06.000 I didn't give myself fingers, the English language, hair, or Laura, or the beautiful Floridian breeze, nor did I give myself a reputation or a career.
00:09:18.000 You were always with me, Lord.
00:09:20.000 Every second of my life, you have been with me.
00:09:23.000 You are the judge.
00:09:24.000 You are the king.
00:09:25.000 And it is you I serve, Jesus Christ.
00:09:28.000 Thank you that we can come together in common unity here, communicating and creating true community.
00:09:36.000 And Lord, from what I see in my country, the UK right now, we need it.
00:09:41.000 This is a time where the enemy, the fallen one has managed to lacquer and shellac your glorious kingdom.
00:09:48.000 with counterfeit bureaucratic systems, Lord, where your power is being emulated and everywhere synthesized by false idols and false gods, flinging up their antennae, their poles and worshiping at false altars.
00:10:02.000 Oh, Lord God, I repent of my former life where I worshiped at the false altar of self, thinking what I wanted and what I didn't want were the highest principles.
00:10:13.000 Now, Lord God, Jesus Christ, ever present living Messiah, we serve and adore you.
00:10:19.000 And it is in your name we pray, Jesus.
00:10:21.000 Amen.
00:10:21.000 Amen.
00:10:26.000 How's your week?
00:10:28.000 Sure.
00:10:29.000 To Her Majesty's government.
00:10:31.000 There you go.
00:10:32.000 Hold on a minute.
00:10:32.000 Did she die that one?
00:10:35.000 Yes.
00:10:35.000 His Majesty.
00:10:37.000 His Majesty.
00:10:38.000 God save the King.
00:10:40.000 That's right.
00:10:43.000 So, yes, these are some of the things that I wanted to talk about, my darling one.
00:10:49.000 Yeah.
00:10:49.000 Deep truths.
00:10:50.000 This is coming somewhat as a result of my friendship with Christy and Astes.
00:10:53.000 And Sarah, get Christy to watch this.
00:10:56.000 Our friend Sarah's in there.
00:10:58.000 Christy is a Palestinian woman from Bethlehem.
00:11:02.000 Bethlehem.
00:11:03.000 I know.
00:11:03.000 Imagine that.
00:11:04.000 Where are you from?
00:11:06.000 Bethlehem.
00:11:07.000 Yeah.
00:11:07.000 There's a Palestinian Christian from Bethlehem.
00:11:10.000 Yeah.
00:11:11.000 So, um.
00:11:12.000 She asked me where I was from.
00:11:13.000 Oh, where are you from?
00:11:14.000 She looks a bit like that.
00:11:15.000 Well, I'm from Windsor, actually, where the castle is.
00:11:17.000 Oh, yes, I mean.
00:11:18.000 Well, I'm from Bethlehem.
00:11:19.000 Oh, Bethlehem.
00:11:20.000 That's how she spoke.
00:11:23.000 She's like that.
00:11:24.000 That's right.
00:11:24.000 But what I like her is she speaks the languages that precede Hebrew.
00:11:29.000 She learned from a rabbi Hebrew, and then she learned, and I love saying this, the proto Canaanite and proto Sinite languages that preceded written Hebrew.
00:11:39.000 Pictorial, therefore, somewhat hieroglyphic languages.
00:11:44.000 She's been showing me some of that stuff.
00:11:46.000 Did she give you the book that's this book here?
00:11:49.000 This book?
00:11:51.000 No, I just got that.
00:11:52.000 I actually got that in, I believe it was Walmart.
00:11:55.000 Oh, an ancient old shop of yesteryear.
00:12:01.000 Yes, I've been to Walmart.
00:12:03.000 Actually, I bought a book in Walmart.
00:12:04.000 I myself went to the Sorbonne in Paris.
00:12:08.000 I went to Walmart in Panama Beach.
00:12:11.000 What did you just say?
00:12:15.000 I bought a book in Walmart on spiritual warfare worksheets, actually, which I haven't stuck to.
00:12:19.000 Get on with them.
00:12:20.000 I can tell you've not done the spiritual war.
00:12:22.000 It shows in your game, love.
00:12:24.000 Shows.
00:12:24.000 I better get on with it.
00:12:25.000 You ain't done your Walmart worksheets on spiritual warfare.
00:12:28.000 Now, these are the names of God, like El Alam.
00:12:31.000 And she's got me some Bible in Hebrew and she's teaching me how to do it.
00:12:36.000 El Olam, El Olam, El Olam.
00:12:38.000 That is the eternal God, I think.
00:12:41.000 You know, as in we describe different aspects of God.
00:12:44.000 El Olam, yeah, the everlasting God or the eternal God.
00:12:46.000 The Hebrew name for the God who has no beginning and no end.
00:12:49.000 The God for whom one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.
00:12:53.000 We'd forget, don't we, that this, oh, I like what you've put those little roses there, that this little device is, you know, it's somewhat arbitrary.
00:13:03.000 You mean the clocks?
00:13:04.000 Yes.
00:13:04.000 All right.
00:13:05.000 Even the most reliable clocks in the world, atomic clocks, what are they measuring really?
00:13:09.000 Velocity?
00:13:10.000 Distance?
00:13:11.000 What are they measuring?
00:13:12.000 What are you talking about?
00:13:14.000 It changes according to gravitational pull.
00:13:16.000 It doesn't really exist.
00:13:17.000 It can't be pinned down.
00:13:18.000 Time is a mystery, like me, babe.
00:13:21.000 Yeah.
00:13:22.000 Yeah, babe.
00:13:23.000 Yeah, babe.
00:13:24.000 Anyway, hanging out with this lady, Christy, she's been coming on The Rumble Show.
00:13:27.000 Check out some of the many conversations I've had with her on there.
00:13:29.000 Has helped me to understand that the same way as one might see a Roman alphabet, the one we use.
00:13:34.000 I really shouldn't have known this.
00:13:35.000 It's numerals, isn't it?
00:13:36.000 It's numerals.
00:13:37.000 Anyway, that alphabet that we're all using, let me know in the comments and chat.
00:13:41.000 That one, you can translate it into, you know, if you're reading the New Testament, you might want to put it in the two to the second.
00:13:46.000 Septuagint, like the original Greek that it was compiled in.
00:13:50.000 Or if you're reading the Old Testament, you might want to be the original Hebrew.
00:13:52.000 Or if it's something Christ said, Aramaic, you want to know what actually God said.
00:13:57.000 Because that Japanese song that you translate there, I can tell they won't have used nostalgia.
00:14:01.000 They won't have a concept for it.
00:14:02.000 Some languages, like, see, the obvious example being Schadenfreude, the taking delight in other people's pain, which seems to me, I don't know, but people dig that.
00:14:11.000 There is no equivalent word for that.
00:14:14.000 There's an equivalent phrase.
00:14:15.000 Nostalgia is, gosh, I don't know.
00:14:18.000 Is it French?
00:14:18.000 It's a French phrase.
00:14:19.000 The other word that's just coming to me there is that Schwiss, Schwissfen, Schwissfen, no, Schwissen, which is the in between.
00:14:28.000 I think this is right.
00:14:29.000 Schwissen.
00:14:30.000 Schwissen, which I think is spelled with a Z, but I have to really, maybe I've got it wrong.
00:14:34.000 Schwissen, something like that, where it's the in between, where you're about to have, you're in between worlds of like being pregnant and having a baby, and it's the last part of the pregnancy.
00:14:44.000 And it's a word that almost means you have to enter another realm.
00:14:47.000 In order to go in, do go into another room.
00:14:49.000 Yeah, why are you not checking these things if you really want to do that?
00:14:51.000 Because my battery's about to run out and I thought that was plugged in and it's not.
00:14:54.000 It's not plugged in.
00:14:55.000 So it's on a loose, this is just on a get up and do it.
00:14:57.000 It's an illusion.
00:14:58.000 Oh, it's a waste of time.
00:14:59.000 You think I can't fill?
00:15:01.000 You think I haven't presented things like Comic Relief or the MTV VMA Awards?
00:15:04.000 You think that I'm not able to legitimately provide content for a brief period of time while you plug something in and make an easy analogy like we must remain connected to the source to receive the necessary invisible signals?
00:15:17.000 I know.
00:15:18.000 With the interface working.
00:15:19.000 And to then point out that even when you think you're scrolling, what you're looking at is code.
00:15:24.000 So you are living in an illusion.
00:15:25.000 And would you think that that's the summit of the illusion?
00:15:27.000 Don't you think that this reality is likely a code that we're translating and interpreting through the senses, but we're not getting the objective reality?
00:15:35.000 Here we go.
00:15:36.000 Shall we read it?
00:15:37.000 Yeah.
00:15:37.000 Okay.
00:15:38.000 That was filling.
00:15:39.000 Well, it was really good filling.
00:15:40.000 He did good filling.
00:15:41.000 The Schwiesen.
00:15:42.000 Britney Spears.
00:15:43.000 Best new act.
00:15:45.000 What is Schwiesen?
00:15:46.000 A German word meaning between.
00:15:48.000 Schwiesen is a term adopted, I'm ignoring that, into birth lexicon.
00:15:51.000 More than a decade ago, by a US doula midwife and author, Diana Stordelska, to describe the long last days and weeks of pregnancy.
00:16:00.000 It's a term I use when talking to people, this person's written about the waiting period, which can feel as if time stands still.
00:16:08.000 So that I suppose it goes on to say, yeah.
00:16:11.000 So Germans have a word, Schwissen, which means between.
00:16:15.000 I've co opted that word for my own obstetrical uses.
00:16:20.000 So the word is not to do with birth, but it's now.
00:16:23.000 And used in that terminology when talking about the time.
00:16:28.000 I suggest that they are now in a time of Schwesin, the time of the in between, where the opening begins.
00:16:33.000 Giving it a name gives it a dimension and an experience closer to wonder than endurance.
00:16:38.000 Excellent.
00:16:39.000 It's a liminal space, it's a portal space, and that actually ties in very nicely to some of the themes that we were talking about today on Sunday service, and indeed that celestial parade, because Schwissen, maybe all life is a form of Schwissen, because temporarily we are here, we occupy tents or tabernacles, these vessels, the body that is passing away.
00:16:58.000 And did you not know that you are not your body and your body doesn't belong to you, that you are the Holy Spirit, that you are not your own?
00:17:03.000 And if you are, as Paul says, sleeping with sex workers, you're making Jesus do that, you're making the Spirit.
00:17:11.000 The pure principle of God in flesh, you're making God in flesh like stare at porn or whatever sin, or I suppose that's more vice than sin.
00:17:21.000 Because other sins include, and I've been enjoying Father Mike Schmidt's material.
00:17:25.000 Oh, fantastic.
00:17:26.000 Gossip, entitlement.
00:17:29.000 The blind spots, is that what he was doing?
00:17:30.000 Yes, that's right.
00:17:31.000 Blind spots, Father Mike Schmidt's excellent series.
00:17:33.000 I do love him.
00:17:34.000 He's a wonderful priest.
00:17:37.000 There's very good on the point of entitlement, like when you think, I should have this, I shouldn't have that, why have I got to go through this?
00:17:43.000 Why have I got to go through Through that, why haven't I got this?
00:17:45.000 You know, having an opinion on what reality should be like, even though you are not the creator of reality.
00:17:50.000 One time in a 12 step meeting, and I'm ever grateful that I received such a wonderful training in spirituality and continue to receive a training in spirituality from 12 step environments.
00:17:59.000 Someone reported in a 12 step meeting once, you know, that they were saying to their sponsor, I should be married, I should have a girlfriend, I should have this, I should have that.
00:18:10.000 And their sponsor said, You should be dead.
00:18:12.000 You should be dead.
00:18:13.000 That's blunt.
00:18:14.000 Yeah.
00:18:15.000 The way you drank, the way you took drugs, you should be dead.
00:18:17.000 Yeah.
00:18:18.000 So, whatever happens, it's all from him.
00:18:20.000 It's all from God.
00:18:21.000 It's all from him.
00:18:22.000 He is giving you, oh, I don't want a dead baby.
00:18:25.000 Sorry.
00:18:26.000 Ow.
00:18:26.000 You know, like whatever it is, whatever terrible, awful thing, our job is to share in his suffering.
00:18:34.000 Now, my point about these sort of gradients of linguistic or semantic understanding is in this instance this.
00:18:40.000 While doing yoga, I continue to do yoga, even though some Christians think it ain't good, because I stay, I feel very close to Jesus.
00:18:46.000 And whilst you can open yourself, I know that there are interdimensional entities and beings and spirits all around us.
00:18:52.000 I know that.
00:18:53.000 And, you know, that's true.
00:18:56.000 I believe that when you're in Christ, you are safe.
00:19:00.000 But also, you enjoy the embodiment of yoga.
00:19:03.000 There's nothing wrong with that.
00:19:05.000 Well, from a Catholic perspective, for example, it's wrong because it's deliberately evoking Kundalini spirit.
00:19:10.000 But what about stretching your muscles?
00:19:13.000 Well, do that.
00:19:13.000 Or do we call it something else?
00:19:15.000 Do it.
00:19:15.000 Don't do it.
00:19:16.000 Yeah.
00:19:16.000 Not only do you call it something else.
00:19:18.000 You don't go to yoga, you stretch wearing like maybe a German.
00:19:21.000 You know, when you see German people go.
00:19:21.000 Of course not.
00:19:23.000 Like in a.
00:19:24.000 Like in a.
00:19:24.000 Like this trench ball.
00:19:26.000 Like this trench ball in Matilda.
00:19:28.000 Shot put.
00:19:29.000 You would have a shot put brace worn.
00:19:31.000 Goodness me.
00:19:32.000 That's what.
00:19:33.000 That's insane.
00:19:34.000 Well, do you not think you can, through ritual, solicit spiritual ease and power?
00:19:39.000 Yeah.
00:19:40.000 Coming to think of it now, actually, but this is more to do with sportsmanship, I think.
00:19:44.000 But my dad, actually, who's very devout Catholic, He was never been into yoga, but that's besides the point.
00:19:51.000 He does something called Alexander Technique, which is all about posture.
00:19:55.000 And when I think about it, that's all quite, you know, that's the chakras lined up.
00:19:59.000 Yeah, but you're not calling them chakras in Alexander Technique.
00:20:02.000 It's very, you know.
00:20:05.000 In Revelation, it would be the seven churches, the seven lamps, the seven lights, the city street of Jerusalem with the crystal water throne from the throne of God right down to the rock.
00:20:14.000 You know, they're like, yeah, I think they're sort of the language that this ultimately.
00:20:20.000 Superficial language reveals ideas.
00:20:22.000 For those ideas to have form or be formulatable, you could see them as kind of shapes.
00:20:29.000 And is there something that helps you conceptually with this?
00:20:31.000 Yes, geometry.
00:20:33.000 You know what a triangle is.
00:20:34.000 You know what a square is.
00:20:35.000 You know what a dodecahedron is.
00:20:37.000 Well, actually, I've got no idea.
00:20:39.000 I was lying there.
00:20:40.000 What is it?
00:20:42.000 Is it like a honeycomb ball?
00:20:45.000 Oh, yeah, okay.
00:20:46.000 Yeah, like Epcot Centre.
00:20:48.000 It's like semi.
00:20:49.000 No, more like some sort of puzzle.
00:20:51.000 Like, say for people that can do them Rubik's Cubes.
00:20:53.000 Yeah.
00:20:54.000 Like that, it's too easy.
00:20:55.000 So it's got many, many surfaces.
00:20:58.000 It's got many, it'll be a certain number.
00:21:00.000 What's the word?
00:21:01.000 Dodahedron.
00:21:02.000 So can you take anything from that?
00:21:04.000 Nothing.
00:21:05.000 No.
00:21:05.000 It's beyond me.
00:21:06.000 I shouldn't have mentioned it.
00:21:07.000 Is it?
00:21:07.000 I don't know why I brought it up.
00:21:09.000 It doesn't matter, does it?
00:21:10.000 It doesn't matter, does it?
00:21:11.000 But I'm saying that there are shapes that are identifiable consistently, regardless of your cultural background.
00:21:16.000 Yes, you're right.
00:21:17.000 And that's my point.
00:21:18.000 And so, like, my point is this that while I was doing yoga, in one of the bits between poses, when I was laying my back in that hot, hot room, trying to think of my breath like it was water, like, oh man, I'm so hot.
00:21:29.000 You know, I mean, temperature wise, not.
00:21:30.000 I'm so hot.
00:21:32.000 Yeah, baby.
00:21:33.000 Look, I got it all.
00:21:36.000 I'm a shirtless man telling the world I'm hot.
00:21:38.000 I knew what you meant.
00:21:40.000 I know what you mean.
00:21:40.000 I've been in that room.
00:21:41.000 I've been in that 100 degrees and I loathed every second of it.
00:21:45.000 Why?
00:21:46.000 I felt claustrophobic.
00:21:47.000 I don't like the different smells that I can smell in there.
00:21:50.000 What do you mean, smells?
00:21:51.000 Sometimes there's quite sweaty smells.
00:21:53.000 What do you mean?
00:21:54.000 Do you think it's people's bottom cliffs?
00:21:56.000 No, they're just.
00:21:57.000 They're pictures.
00:21:57.000 I'm sensitive to sort of the sort of mixture of that.
00:22:00.000 Not their nifkins.
00:22:02.000 The breaths and the sweats and stuff.
00:22:04.000 It wasn't.
00:22:04.000 Not the rat pipe.
00:22:06.000 I had to.
00:22:06.000 Not the stink whistle.
00:22:07.000 I had to get through a lot.
00:22:09.000 Not the Murkin's mouth.
00:22:10.000 Okay, that's.
00:22:12.000 I just, you know, you know me.
00:22:13.000 And like, I'm like, stop.
00:22:17.000 Not the, um, the, oh, you think it'll be the pig mulch?
00:22:21.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:22:21.000 The pig mulch.
00:22:22.000 Pig pods.
00:22:24.000 Episode one.
00:22:26.000 No, I just, uh, find it overwhelming in a sensory kind of way.
00:22:30.000 Like, yes, extremely hard.
00:22:31.000 I find the things difficult.
00:22:33.000 Yeah, all of that.
00:22:34.000 So go on.
00:22:34.000 You're lying there and you're thinking, I'm harder than hell.
00:22:38.000 Go on.
00:22:39.000 If you can keep, like, if you can focus on your breath during that, this realization came.
00:22:45.000 It came this.
00:22:46.000 Oh, but to be focused on your breath when there's a lot of external distraction or stimulation, it's a bit like the feeling of threading a needle.
00:22:53.000 That idea came.
00:22:54.000 And in particular, when you're threading a needle and you have the thread and the thread's right against the eye of the needle, and you're like, hold on a minute, why is it not going through?
00:23:02.000 I've done everything I need to do, I've lined it up perfect, and it's still not going through.
00:23:07.000 Is it a frayed edge?
00:23:08.000 It might be a frayed edge.
00:23:09.000 Is it bad eyesight?
00:23:10.000 Could be.
00:23:13.000 Well, well, well.
00:23:14.000 Et two, Brutus.
00:23:16.000 At two.
00:23:18.000 Oh, well, that ain't that nice.
00:23:20.000 Or some of those cheap needles, the hole's too small, you know?
00:23:22.000 Yeah, it's different threads as well, very difficult to work with, I learned the other day.
00:23:26.000 So, anyway, so I continued and I was thinking about the level of concentration that's required with threading a needle.
00:23:32.000 Then it came to me this passage from Mark.
00:23:36.000 It's a famous passage, it's often called the rich young man or the rich young ruler.
00:23:42.000 The young man comes up to our Lord and says, Hey, what I've got to do to get into heaven?
00:23:48.000 In fact, here it is.
00:23:49.000 Let's read it out.
00:23:50.000 As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him.
00:23:54.000 Good teacher, he asked, What must I do to inherit eternal life?
00:23:57.000 Notice he's not saying go to heaven or an afterlife.
00:24:00.000 Inherit, that means exist within, in here, eternal life.
00:24:05.000 Life that is beyond the body, that is beyond time, actually.
00:24:09.000 That's what eternal means.
00:24:10.000 It means beyond time.
00:24:12.000 And time is decay, and decay is the presence of the enemy.
00:24:17.000 Death, the wages of sin is death.
00:24:19.000 Why do you call me good?
00:24:20.000 Jesus answered.
00:24:22.000 No one is good except God alone.
00:24:24.000 Isn't it lovely?
00:24:25.000 Jesus, he won't take a bit of credit.
00:24:26.000 No.
00:24:26.000 I mean, he's unbelievable.
00:24:28.000 Being in very nature God, he didn't see equality with God as something to be sought.
00:24:34.000 He is God.
00:24:35.000 Mary and her, like an attribute shared by the Holy Mother there and by our Lord and Savior, is both of them saying, My personal nature is irrelevant.
00:24:46.000 My rustleness, which is not a euphemism for my winky woo, my rustleness is not what defines me.
00:24:53.000 I am defined by, I am a conduit, a conductor for a higher thing.
00:24:58.000 Mary says, I'm the handmaid of the Lord, do what you gotta do.
00:25:01.000 Right.
00:25:01.000 She says to Gabriel.
00:25:03.000 And our Lord says, No, if you've seen me, you've seen the Father, there's no me here.
00:25:08.000 In fact, I say the true crucifixion is Gethsemane, where the man Christ dies.
00:25:13.000 Anyway, I can't back it up properly yet.
00:25:15.000 Oh, let me do this.
00:25:15.000 What I'm doing?
00:25:17.000 What must I do to inherit eternal life?
00:25:19.000 Why do you call me good?
00:25:20.000 Jesus answered.
00:25:21.000 No one is good except God alone.
00:25:23.000 You know the commandments, he says to this dude who's just kneeled down before him.
00:25:26.000 You shall not murder.
00:25:28.000 Cool.
00:25:28.000 Makes sense.
00:25:29.000 You shall not commit adultery.
00:25:30.000 Good rule.
00:25:31.000 You shall not steal.
00:25:32.000 Makes sense.
00:25:33.000 You shall not give false testimony.
00:25:36.000 Good idea.
00:25:37.000 You shall not defraud.
00:25:38.000 Yes, don't defraud.
00:25:40.000 Honor your father and mother.
00:25:41.000 Teacher, he declared, all these I've kept since I was a boy.
00:25:45.000 I've been doing that.
00:25:46.000 So that's what it says.
00:25:46.000 Like, you know, when you get advice from someone, like for example, when we were at a University of Florida vets getting our tortoise back, who's got an esophageal tube in his neck, which by the way, I'm feeding and administering medication and hydration, you know, twice a day to it.
00:26:04.000 How's that going?
00:26:05.000 It's challenging.
00:26:06.000 I actually texted our friend from the zoo the other day and said, I wish I had just trained as a vet.
00:26:12.000 It would have been easier with the amount of animals we had.
00:26:15.000 Yeah.
00:26:15.000 And also, by the way, I actually really enjoy the whole system of it.
00:26:19.000 Like, you've got the syringes on a tray and you are clean.
00:26:23.000 I wear a glove because I've got to help him with his little bit of his defecation, would you call it?
00:26:26.000 You mean helping with his defecation?
00:26:28.000 Well, he's so.
00:26:29.000 Don't salivate.
00:26:29.000 I'm not.
00:26:30.000 No, that was.
00:26:31.000 I thought I had something on my chin.
00:26:34.000 He has to be in a warm bath and then I have to administer the stuff through the esophageal tube.
00:26:41.000 It is an additional job I probably could do without.
00:26:44.000 But I also, I love this tortoise so much and I've got into a system with it.
00:26:49.000 Sandy, and I've got into a system and a rhythm, if you will.
00:26:52.000 So I actually do get some enjoyment from the sort of, you know, almost pretending I'm a vet.
00:26:58.000 In your mind, you're pretending.
00:27:00.000 Well, momentarily, well, when I'm a, yeah, when I'm dealing with measuring out opioids.
00:27:05.000 And that makes it harder because then you've got to measure out the opioids and pretend you're a vet.
00:27:09.000 It's two jobs.
00:27:10.000 It rolls into one.
00:27:12.000 It rolls into one.
00:27:13.000 I'm also following very, very, you know, meticulous instructions, by the way, guys.
00:27:17.000 I'm not just, you know, thinking.
00:27:20.000 That I know what I'm doing.
00:27:21.000 I am reading instructions and I'm just for a moment, I'm allowing myself to think.
00:27:26.000 I'm just indulging the fantasy for a moment that I trained for many years, that I'm extremely skilled.
00:27:33.000 I've got my own practice.
00:27:35.000 Oh, where is it?
00:27:35.000 Because it's a bit holistic.
00:27:36.000 Where is it?
00:27:37.000 It's a bit holistic.
00:27:37.000 Yeah, like there's special music playing in the background that's taking the animals onto a good wavelength.
00:27:42.000 Does it?
00:27:42.000 There's warm baths.
00:27:44.000 How do you know it works?
00:27:44.000 What's the science behind that?
00:27:45.000 Well, there's science behind that music.
00:27:47.000 Well, sometimes on Spotify, you can look up like, Calm music for cats and music to stop the dogs feeling anxious.
00:27:55.000 That is not science.
00:27:56.000 That's a Spotify playlist.
00:27:58.000 Okay, sorry, but you are the one that when I came home once, you were playing music which was making me like, and it was like, yes, 480 kilohertz.
00:28:08.000 Yeah, that's what it is.
00:28:10.000 It's the music that's at different ranges of.
00:28:14.000 All right, so you're trying to win this argument by conceding an argument we've had in the past.
00:28:18.000 That's married life, huh?
00:28:19.000 Yeah, that's what it is.
00:28:20.000 And it's also what it's like dealing with lawyers.
00:28:21.000 That's what lawyers do all the time.
00:28:23.000 They move their position.
00:28:24.000 You're like, wait a minute, you said that.
00:28:26.000 Oh, whoa.
00:28:27.000 Well, maybe what they've done.
00:28:28.000 I know that I once put that background music on for Bear, and he did not like it.
00:28:33.000 So he was not up for the calm dog music.
00:28:36.000 I put it on the screen and it was meant to be dog music.
00:28:39.000 Calm your dogs down.
00:28:40.000 And he was, ooh.
00:28:42.000 He was not enjoying it.
00:28:43.000 What about when he was high on Tramadol back from the vets and he saw those sort of masks we had from the National Theatre or whatever?
00:28:48.000 Paper Maché.
00:28:49.000 Paper Maché masks.
00:28:50.000 He was barking at them.
00:28:51.000 He wanted to have a fight with them, didn't he?
00:28:53.000 Like they were gargoyles.
00:28:53.000 Yeah, he was.
00:28:54.000 It was really, really insane, yeah, is it?
00:28:56.000 Anyway, well, my point is this when the rich young ruler says to our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus, I've been doing that, It's like when I was at the University of Florida vet in Gainesville, and good people, by the way, good people.
00:29:08.000 And like the lady goes, You've got to keep the tortoise in the bath.
00:29:10.000 I goes, Mate, that tortoise is in the bath the whole time.
00:29:13.000 So, like, you're doing that.
00:29:14.000 I goes, And I said to him, You're good.
00:29:16.000 Did you say mate?
00:29:17.000 I might have said mate.
00:29:18.000 I don't know.
00:29:18.000 They're American.
00:29:19.000 So, sometimes I say mate, maybe I'm just doing mate now.
00:29:21.000 Like, and I like to imagine myself in a flat cap, smoking a woodbine, wearing a brown coat.
00:29:24.000 I'm very English.
00:29:26.000 You never mind whether that tortoise is in a bath or not.
00:29:30.000 Yeah.
00:29:31.000 Keep your snare out of my face.
00:29:33.000 Mind you.
00:29:34.000 Mind your own business, mind your own beeswax.
00:29:36.000 Well, Mr. Brown is trying to advise you on what's best for the tortoise.
00:29:39.000 No, your point was you're telling me to do something that we're already doing, not necessarily obvious, but something that we're already doing, right?
00:29:46.000 Yeah, and therefore I'm concerned because we have this problem.
00:29:49.000 And if we have this problem and we're already doing something you're telling us to do, then that's not going to be the solution because we're already doing that, yes, yes, yes.
00:29:57.000 That's what I was saying to him, anyway.
00:29:58.000 So, this is what the Richard Young ruler is saying is I'm already doing that, I'm already not murdering anyone or doing adultery.
00:30:03.000 In fact, these are common sense, don't steal, don't give false testimony.
00:30:07.000 Don't defraud on your mum and dad teacher.
00:30:09.000 All these I've kept since I was a little boy.
00:30:10.000 The tortoise is in the bath right now, Lord.
00:30:12.000 It's drinking everything it wants.
00:30:14.000 His little butthole, relaxing and a fluxing.
00:30:16.000 Oh, yeah.
00:30:17.000 Actually, yeah.
00:30:17.000 Flexing and a fluxing.
00:30:19.000 With his tube taped to his shell.
00:30:21.000 Little neck hole tube taped on his back.
00:30:24.000 Which I'm keeping nice and clean and dry.
00:30:26.000 Would you mind if I just got that neck, the tube, and just swung the tortoise around like that and went, whee!
00:30:30.000 See you later, there.
00:30:31.000 No, that wouldn't go down good.
00:30:32.000 He's also, by the way, I'm doing red light therapy on him too.
00:30:36.000 He's under the red light all night long.
00:30:37.000 Did you even notice?
00:30:38.000 He's like Roxanne, that to us.
00:30:40.000 Put on the red light.
00:30:42.000 Sandy, put on the red light.
00:30:43.000 Yeah, he's getting high level care.
00:30:45.000 He's like an amphibious sex worker.
00:30:48.000 He's under that red light.
00:30:49.000 He's got a tube down his neck card.
00:30:51.000 No, yeah.
00:30:52.000 Yeah, I could go further with that joke.
00:30:53.000 Yeah, don't go further because this is Sunday service.
00:30:56.000 They're good jokes, though.
00:30:57.000 Very good jokes.
00:30:58.000 They're auto eroticism jokes.
00:31:01.000 And when those people are found, that's asphyxiation.
00:31:03.000 Okay, but we don't need to go into that.
00:31:05.000 That's not for that.
00:31:05.000 It's not when you've got the Bible.
00:31:07.000 Definitely not.
00:31:08.000 In your hand.
00:31:09.000 And there might be a variety of ages.
00:31:10.000 But he makes all things.
00:31:11.000 The Sabbath was made for man, the man not made for the Sabbath.
00:31:14.000 He wants us in absolute truth.
00:31:15.000 I am the truth, the life and the way.
00:31:17.000 I am the truth.
00:31:18.000 Start with truth.
00:31:19.000 If you're not doing truth, you're not even at the starting line.
00:31:22.000 So you can do one.
00:31:25.000 All right.
00:31:25.000 So you should not murder.
00:31:26.000 You should not.
00:31:27.000 Anyway, teacher, I've been doing all this since I was a boy.
00:31:28.000 Jesus looked at him and loved him.
00:31:30.000 I love that.
00:31:31.000 Why does he love him?
00:31:32.000 I mean, obviously, I know why he loved him.
00:31:34.000 That's a bit like Jesus wept in the Lazarus story in John.
00:31:36.000 Oh my gosh.
00:31:37.000 Jesus looked at him and loved him.
00:31:39.000 Jesus wept.
00:31:41.000 One thing you lack, he said.
00:31:44.000 Go sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
00:31:49.000 Then come follow me.
00:31:52.000 Yeah.
00:31:53.000 At this, the man's face fell.
00:31:55.000 He went away sad because he had great wealth.
00:31:59.000 The wealth game gets a lot of people, a lot of people that have wealth, and a lot of people that don't have wealth.
00:32:04.000 They're in the wealth game.
00:32:06.000 The gracious Lord protected us from that.
00:32:08.000 Thank you, Father.
00:32:10.000 I know what it's like to not have money.
00:32:12.000 I know what it's like to have money.
00:32:13.000 I know what it's like to have Christ.
00:32:15.000 I know what it's like to not have Christ.
00:32:17.000 Christ is better.
00:32:20.000 The disciples were amazed.
00:32:22.000 So, anyway, Jesus looked round and said to his disciples, How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God.
00:32:28.000 I wonder when he says stuff like that to them.
00:32:30.000 He's trying to get a chat going, isn't he?
00:32:31.000 Yeah.
00:32:33.000 They oblige.
00:32:34.000 The disciples were amazed at his words.
00:32:36.000 But Jesus said again, Children, ah, he recognizes now.
00:32:39.000 He's dealing with their dimwits, aren't they?
00:32:42.000 I mean, this is before they're saying Peter and St. John and et cetera, St. Jude, Bartholomew.
00:32:48.000 Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God.
00:32:51.000 And this is the bit I wanted to get to.
00:32:53.000 It's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.
00:33:00.000 People have discussed that line because it's a bizarre image.
00:33:03.000 Some people even saying that the needle's eye was a famous gate in the city walls of Jerusalem.
00:33:09.000 Yeah.
00:33:09.000 So small that people would have to unpack and debag their beast of burden camels in order for the camel to pass through the eye of a needle.
00:33:17.000 Yes.
00:33:18.000 But I now, it came to me direct that what he was saying is this is what he says Children, it's easier for a camel to thread a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.
00:33:33.000 Fred.
00:33:34.000 That'll be it.
00:33:34.000 And I bet when you look at the Greek or the Aramaic that he would have said it in.
00:33:37.000 But do you know what I always thought of it as?
00:33:39.000 And when I've heard it before, was simply that it's difficult because it's got, you have to navigate, you're going at a level and you have to navigate a hump to get it through one shape.
00:33:51.000 Oh, like it's one of those things at a church fair.
00:33:53.000 A bit like that.
00:33:54.000 Hold on a minute, that camel's enormous.
00:33:56.000 Camel's not going to be the problem, right?
00:33:58.000 I've got it over his muzzle, over his ears.
00:34:01.000 That was a magic.
00:34:01.000 Right down his neck.
00:34:03.000 Oh, no.
00:34:03.000 What's this?
00:34:04.000 I was just like that.
00:34:05.000 I was imagining a very small camel.
00:34:09.000 It's not hard to get a very small camel from the Ivory Needle.
00:34:11.000 That's a piece of cake.
00:34:14.000 Get that in easy.
00:34:16.000 Fire them through like a double slit experiment.
00:34:18.000 Bam, bada, bam, bada, bada, bam, wave and pile.
00:34:20.000 Genuinely.
00:34:21.000 Whenever I've heard that, even in the last couple of days when we fashioned this or yesterday, I've been imagining it like that game going through the thing.
00:34:30.000 Yeah.
00:34:30.000 Well, that's all well and good.
00:34:32.000 You could do what you want in your imagination.
00:34:34.000 That is your playground.
00:34:35.000 Where I'm a vet.
00:34:37.000 In your mind, where you're a vet playing music to tortoises with no clinical trials or double blind studies to back up your mad hypotheses.
00:34:47.000 Yeah.
00:34:48.000 And you're, what are you doing?
00:34:49.000 You're playing music to tortoises, you're injecting their tramadol down their neck holes, you're following up with a bowl of guns.
00:34:55.000 Yeah.
00:34:56.000 And then I'm putting them in a bath morning, noon, and night.
00:34:59.000 Yeah.
00:34:59.000 Red light therapy.
00:35:00.000 And then you're imagining a camel going through the eye of a needle and the problem being the hump.
00:35:06.000 And by the way, I also imagine a double hump.
00:35:09.000 That's a drummer dairy.
00:35:11.000 Or, there we go.
00:35:14.000 No, look, could you mind?
00:35:16.000 I'm actually trying to unravel the deepest mysteries of scripture and consciousness.
00:35:20.000 And my purpose here is to challenge you to what's in my mind.
00:35:26.000 That.
00:35:28.000 So go on.
00:35:29.000 Job done.
00:35:30.000 If it's your intention to hurt me and to mock me, well done.
00:35:39.000 Well done.
00:35:40.000 Pray work.
00:35:41.000 Do you like hurting people?
00:35:43.000 Do you?
00:35:43.000 Yeah.
00:35:45.000 So, no, I think he's saying it's easier for a camel to thread a needle, and a camel can't thread a needle.
00:35:52.000 I.e., this is how old Russ would say it I don't understand God the way that our cat doesn't understand the internet.
00:35:58.000 It doesn't matter how much time I try to explain modems and Wi Fi and Facebook and Amazon Prime, the cat will not be able to absorb the information.
00:36:07.000 Or, as Isaiah puts it, my ways are not your ways.
00:36:10.000 As far above the, as far, my thoughts are as far above your thoughts as the heavens are above the ground.
00:36:19.000 Or to enter into heaven, this state of heaven, this ever present contact with God, I am that I am, sent you.
00:36:28.000 Before Abraham was born, I am an ever present God.
00:36:32.000 To get into that state of mind, if you're rich and you've got access to pleasures and treasures and sensation, is like try and imagine how hard it would be for a camel to get a bit of Fred.
00:36:43.000 It's an undulate.
00:36:44.000 Is it called a camel?
00:36:45.000 An undulate?
00:36:46.000 What's those type of animals called?
00:36:47.000 I think they're called undulates.
00:36:48.000 Unduents.
00:36:48.000 Do you mean with the hoof?
00:36:50.000 Animals with hoofs.
00:36:50.000 It's got to get up.
00:36:51.000 It's locked in now.
00:36:53.000 Why won't you do any research for that?
00:36:54.000 Because I don't know if that's the sort of thing this is.
00:36:56.000 Yeah, it's also not my job.
00:36:57.000 When you're a vet.
00:36:58.000 All right, you're a vet.
00:37:00.000 Someone says, what.
00:37:02.000 Taxonomy of beast is the camel, and you say, Oh, I don't know.
00:37:07.000 So it's not what's the camel's hoof called?
00:37:09.000 No, what is a type of what genus of animal?
00:37:13.000 Yes, what genus type genus?
00:37:16.000 Genus of animal is a stop.
00:37:19.000 Oh, I'm just watching.
00:37:20.000 You're practicing impatience.
00:37:22.000 Oh, yeah, I'm going to be doing that.
00:37:23.000 It shows lack of trust in God, not cameless.
00:37:27.000 I didn't say that.
00:37:28.000 Come back, you and I'm angry with you.
00:37:30.000 I don't like.
00:37:32.000 Russell, you are good at typing fast on this thing.
00:37:36.000 I actually have to.
00:37:37.000 I go out there.
00:37:38.000 I said, animals with hooves.
00:37:39.000 What?
00:37:40.000 My relationship is.
00:37:43.000 Undulate.
00:37:44.000 I was right in a way.
00:37:44.000 I shouldn't have even looked at it.
00:37:45.000 And would a giraffe fall into that category?
00:37:47.000 It's an undulate.
00:37:48.000 Has it got a hoof?
00:37:48.000 It's an undulate.
00:37:49.000 Okay, great.
00:37:50.000 So an undulate don't have hands.
00:37:52.000 Where does Christ, when you find him at your right hand, that's where you find Christ, that your right hand.
00:37:57.000 A camel with its little undulate hoof thing can't hold a needle and thread and go, it's too daft, poor thing.
00:38:04.000 Now you must bring your attention to the breath.
00:38:07.000 And exactly the way you would have to if you didn't even have.
00:38:09.000 Imagine how hard it is to bring your attention to the breath when you're in a hot room anyway, Russell.
00:38:13.000 Oh, my goodness.
00:38:14.000 Well, now you've got to bring your attention to the breath when there's increasing pressure and without what you consider to be the correct tools.
00:38:21.000 If you're able to do this, you will enter the kingdom of heaven.
00:38:24.000 For as Aquinas says, the kingdom of heaven is on the earth, but man sees it not.
00:38:27.000 Why do we not see it?
00:38:28.000 Perhaps because it's lacking and shellacked by the bureaucratic kingdom of Baphomet, of Moloch, of Baal, of the false gods, the false gods of our culture, which may as well now be called the nations, the state, the World Bank.
00:38:40.000 The IMF, NATO, choose your poison, choose your false God.
00:38:45.000 All of them want to distract you from the divine truth present in you now, intimate connection with a holy, present master who died for our sins and was born again that we may know him for eternal life.
00:38:53.000 But to enter the kingdom of God for a rich man, if you are Elon Musk and Lord, I pray for him, then it's difficult because you've got all this stuff around you, all this titillating, stimulating, accessible nodes of pleasure.
00:39:07.000 And especially if you have that, gosh, the wisdom of Solomon.
00:39:11.000 Led him to the point, well, you know, vanity, vanity, vanity, all this vanity, nothing means now, nothing means anything.
00:39:16.000 So that came to me, and I said, God, show me if you mean this by giving me further synchronicities over the day.
00:39:23.000 And then he did, but that's just for you and I to discuss because it ain't easy to get camels into conversations.
00:39:29.000 But the Lord found a way.
00:39:30.000 Yeah.
00:39:31.000 Like, show me, Lord.
00:39:32.000 Show me, Lord, that I'm with you and that you are with me.
00:39:35.000 And this is how you should pray.
00:39:36.000 Yeah.
00:39:37.000 Show me.
00:39:38.000 You know, see, I don't feel, I love the denominations of Eastern Orthodoxy and Catholicism and the SS. PX, you know, yet more esoteric Catholicism that reject Vatican II and their findings and proposals.
00:39:50.000 I love Fulton Sheen.
00:39:51.000 Lord knows I love Martin Luther, both the first one and the second one that was coronated by name and through his civil rights activity.
00:40:00.000 And I don't think that when our Lord and Savior returns, and he's returning soon, that he's going to say, All right, who's a Catholic?
00:40:05.000 Or All right, who's Eastern Orthodox?
00:40:07.000 Or All right, who did it this way?
00:40:08.000 Who's Pentecostal?
00:40:09.000 Who's a snake handler?
00:40:10.000 No.
00:40:11.000 Did you know me?
00:40:12.000 Did you know me?
00:40:13.000 Did you know me in the present?
00:40:15.000 And how do we know him?
00:40:16.000 How do we know his followers?
00:40:18.000 Love one another.
00:40:19.000 Love one another.
00:40:21.000 And love your neighbor.
00:40:22.000 Neighbor, no limited liability.
00:40:24.000 Everyone is your neighbor.
00:40:25.000 Everybody.
00:40:26.000 Doesn't matter their color, doesn't matter anything.
00:40:28.000 Yeah.
00:40:28.000 Love them.
00:40:29.000 Yeah.
00:40:30.000 And to what degree do we love them?
00:40:31.000 And how many times do we forgive them?
00:40:32.000 You forgive them infinitely and you love them, even if it costs you your life.
00:40:36.000 That's how you'll know that you've, you know, can you drink the cup that I drank?
00:40:40.000 Will you go where I go?
00:40:43.000 We have to.
00:40:44.000 Yeah.
00:40:44.000 We have no choice.
00:40:45.000 That's right.
00:40:46.000 My book, How to Become Christian in Seven Days, is available now.
00:40:50.000 There's a link in the description.
00:40:51.000 If you want it for free as an audiobook, you can have that too.
00:40:54.000 If you're in the UK, it's hard to get.
00:40:56.000 And for me, that makes it more valuable.
00:40:58.000 Why would they bother making it hard to get?
00:41:00.000 Oh, thank you.
00:41:01.000 Beloved Jesus.
00:41:02.000 That's wonderful.
00:41:03.000 Well, we have to wrap up soon.
00:41:05.000 Do we?
00:41:07.000 I've barely started.
00:41:08.000 Oh, well.
00:41:09.000 Really?
00:41:09.000 Have I?
00:41:10.000 You've barely started.
00:41:11.000 I've got so much to say.
00:41:12.000 Well, why don't you do you want to touch on this book at all?
00:41:14.000 I could read some comments and then you actually have something else to do it for.
00:41:18.000 Why?
00:41:19.000 He's got a life thing.
00:41:20.000 Life, With our live Jonathan Otto.
00:41:23.000 That's correct.
00:41:24.000 Who makes red lights.
00:41:25.000 That's correct.
00:41:26.000 And keeps trying to get everyone to drink their own wee and piddle on everything.
00:41:29.000 That's right.
00:41:29.000 But maybe they could get more context from that, from your rumble shows for that because that's.
00:41:34.000 Yahweh Roe.
00:41:35.000 You draw the line.
00:41:36.000 Yahweh Roe.
00:41:37.000 On the Sunday service.
00:41:39.000 I'll read the comments.
00:41:39.000 Yahweh Suri.
00:41:40.000 Find what you want to read.
00:41:42.000 Maybe we'll touch on this book.
00:41:43.000 I'll read a couple of nice comments from listeners and then we'll close in the next few minutes.
00:41:47.000 Gabe Lyons, The Collapse is Here.
00:41:48.000 The Hopeful Christian's Guide to Restore Faith, Home and Community.
00:41:51.000 Gabe Lyons.
00:41:52.000 Because you have been interviewing some really interesting, lovely people, haven't you, Russell?
00:41:55.000 And that's where all these books are coming from on this.
00:41:57.000 Well, not this one.
00:41:58.000 I haven't interviewed G.K. Chester.
00:42:00.000 No, not that one.
00:42:01.000 I meant Gabe Lyons.
00:42:02.000 Or Rene Girard on Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the Earth.
00:42:05.000 Well, I've been reading what they say.
00:42:07.000 Yeah.
00:42:08.000 He, Chesterton, denies sophistry, which means superficial glibness, and then uses the beautiful metaphor becoming a Christian is like saying you've discovered England while sailing on a yacht.
00:42:19.000 It's a fully populated country.
00:42:20.000 Everyone's already a grandmother's a Christian.
00:42:22.000 Everyone, all the people in the comments, they're Christian already.
00:42:25.000 And we're arriving on the shores and wandering in and not paying attention to the Tesco's and Portsmouth FC's football ground.
00:42:34.000 I don't know what it's called anymore.
00:42:35.000 Is it named after a brand?
00:42:36.000 It used to have some weird name.
00:42:38.000 No, Portland stuff.
00:42:40.000 They'll come to me.
00:42:41.000 Anyway, I'll look it up.
00:42:44.000 I'll look it up.
00:42:45.000 Do you love me or not?
00:42:47.000 How can I go from undulates and camels to Portsmouth?
00:42:51.000 I love you very much.
00:42:52.000 Portsmouth FC's football crowd.
00:42:54.000 They've got that weird sort of crescent moon on there.
00:42:58.000 Fratton Park.
00:42:59.000 Fratton Park.
00:43:00.000 I beat you, chat, Bridgie.
00:43:02.000 I win.
00:43:02.000 Yeah, you are.
00:43:03.000 I win, Satan.
00:43:04.000 Fratton Park.
00:43:04.000 There we go.
00:43:06.000 Thank you, Lord.
00:43:07.000 So, what I'm saying is, I've chested and he says that, like, Just believe the Apostles' Creed.
00:43:14.000 I believe in God the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who is conceived of the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.
00:43:23.000 On the third day, he rose again from the dead.
00:43:25.000 He ascended into hell.
00:43:28.000 On the third day, he rose again from the dead.
00:43:29.000 He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty.
00:43:31.000 From there, he will come to judge the living and the dead.
00:43:33.000 I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, communion of saints, forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting.
00:43:38.000 Amen.
00:43:38.000 Wow.
00:43:40.000 Gerard, though, he says that Christ is the perfect God.
00:43:44.000 End of all other mythology by eliminating the scapegoat mechanism that emerges when through mimetic desire we desire the thing the other has.
00:43:55.000 You see that about children all the time.
00:43:57.000 They'll kill each other over the thing the other has.
00:43:58.000 Yeah, it's unbelievable.
00:44:00.000 Could you think of examples?
00:44:01.000 Today, a squishy.
00:44:03.000 I don't know.
00:44:04.000 I don't know.
00:44:05.000 I mean, my goodness.
00:44:07.000 But yeah, a squishy.
00:44:09.000 A squishy, a squishy.
00:44:10.000 My kingdom for a squishy.
00:44:13.000 Okay.
00:44:14.000 So, Gerard says that Christ reverses the mythology through the perfect sacrifice.
00:44:20.000 If you look deeply enough, you will find geometry, you will find biology, you will find quantum physics.
00:44:25.000 It's all there.
00:44:25.000 It doesn't matter what language you bring to him.
00:44:28.000 He is the Alpha and the Omega.
00:44:30.000 There's our mate Sarah.
00:44:31.000 Yeah.
00:44:31.000 So I just want to say this about this.
00:44:35.000 I think a queer reverend has said that Christ was trans.
00:44:39.000 This is the thing that's doing the rounds online.
00:44:41.000 Right.
00:44:42.000 I think what the queer reverend says is that, and I, by the way, you know, look, our Lord does say in heaven there is no man woman.
00:44:53.000 But Genesis does say in his image he created them, man woman he created them.
00:44:58.000 What I believe above all else is that we're not here to judge each other.
00:45:02.000 And when you take a position in the cultural war, you are in a kind of consider yourself as being in a pocket or paddock.
00:45:09.000 They used to use the phrase kettling when doing riot control in the UK, used to go to a lot of protests.
00:45:14.000 And kettling means like the police have got a strategy for breaking up the crowd and preventing the disturbance becoming the necessary revolution required to restore UK to its rightful owners, the people.
00:45:28.000 The kettle it is like they take sort of, you know, 10% of the crowd that way, 10% of the crowd that way.
00:45:32.000 Once they've got you in a controlled environment, they keep you there till you're so bored and you need to mix your rate and everything loses steam, like a kettle, I suppose.
00:45:42.000 It's a decompression zone.
00:45:45.000 Yes.
00:45:45.000 And don't get kettled into the, yes.
00:45:47.000 Don't get kettled into cultural arguments, is what I would say.
00:45:51.000 Yes.
00:45:52.000 He is in here.
00:45:53.000 He's in here in his word and you have as much access to it as anybody else.
00:45:57.000 It's sort of, I don't think, he wants his church unified.
00:46:00.000 Does that mean we will have to become Catholics or Eastern Orthodox?
00:46:03.000 If you're Eastern Orthodox, I guess you think it does.
00:46:04.000 If you're Catholic, I guess you think it does.
00:46:06.000 But I believe he wants one church, one body, all of us together.
00:46:11.000 Yes, he gave Peter the keys.
00:46:13.000 Yes, he told Peter, feed my sheep.
00:46:14.000 But he said to John, go live with my mother.
00:46:16.000 And John's the one that doesn't die.
00:46:18.000 And John's the one on Patmos.
00:46:20.000 And John's the one who writes revelations.
00:46:21.000 And John's the one who writes of the seven churches and the seven candles and tells us there must be a concomitant mystical tradition accompanying the institutional church.
00:46:30.000 Peace!
00:46:33.000 Excellent.
00:46:35.000 Peace, I give to you.
00:46:36.000 I don't give to you as the world gives to you.
00:46:38.000 Why don't you tell the story of this?
00:46:40.000 I will do.
00:46:42.000 Yes.
00:46:42.000 Okay.
00:46:42.000 So we met a wonderful man at the hospital that our son was having surgery at.
00:46:50.000 Yes.
00:46:50.000 He was a wonderful doctor and a brilliant and kind man.
00:46:52.000 Kind man.
00:46:53.000 And there was a sort of coincidence, I think, when we spoke, synchronicity.
00:46:57.000 Sorry.
00:46:57.000 There was a synchronicity.
00:46:59.000 So it.
00:47:00.000 Give us a kiss.
00:47:03.000 There was a synchronicity.
00:47:05.000 And so it all sort of was one of those relationships that opened up very beautifully, like a part of a book, you know.
00:47:15.000 And we had just spoken about Wendell Berry the week before.
00:47:18.000 He had passed away and we talked about him.
00:47:20.000 We had read something from his Sabbath poems.
00:47:23.000 And I remember Roland Russell goes, Oh, you're going to read something, but this is a Christian, you know.
00:47:27.000 And I was like, Well, he was a Christian writer and we should.
00:47:30.000 Anyway, turns out.
00:47:32.000 That the man, the gentleman we met at the hospital that was extremely helpful and kind to us, had listened to the Sunday service, as had his friend who has written this book.
00:47:42.000 And he had called me up in the week after the surgery to check how Herbie was doing.
00:47:46.000 And he said, My friend, listen to your Sunday service.
00:47:50.000 And by some chance, like part of his book was sort of going and finding the birthplace of Wendell Berry.
00:47:57.000 And he wrote this beautiful book.
00:47:58.000 And him and his wife have been followers of Russell for, or his wife maybe, or his wife.
00:48:04.000 She's been praying for me 12 years.
00:48:05.000 She's been praying for 12 years, and there was this beautiful story that came out of it.
00:48:08.000 We went back for the checkup at the hospital the other day, and all is well.
00:48:12.000 Thank you very much for that.
00:48:14.000 And the new friend, acquaintance, and lovely, lovely gentleman that came to meet us to say hello to us in person, because this had just been on the phone before, gave us this book and said, This is written by my friend who I mentioned to you on the phone.
00:48:29.000 Hunter Lambeth.
00:48:30.000 Yeah.
00:48:30.000 And can you give a bit of a brief of the book?
00:48:32.000 Because you've been reading it.
00:48:33.000 Yes.
00:48:34.000 It's a book called The Good Way and it's inspired by the period of COVID 19, the global pandemic era, where their author, Hunter Lambeth, advocates for us slowing down and walking, living life at three miles an hour like our.
00:48:47.000 Perambulating, wandering God.
00:48:50.000 Our God who walked everywhere, who never felt the need to rush for nobody.
00:48:53.000 Even when he was flipping tables or being nailed to cross, he did it at the pace of God.
00:48:58.000 He did it at the perfect pace because he is outside of time.
00:49:00.000 He is eternal.
00:49:01.000 So he doesn't need to rush or slow down or do nothing.
00:49:04.000 But anyway, this is a suggestion that the COVID era could have been, as well as, I mean, my diagnosis is that COVID was a time where we learned that there is a set of global interests that transcend government that are preparing for total control.
00:49:18.000 That's my.
00:49:18.000 But unalamed, and this is a rather nice analysis, and I also agree, having to agree with that it was an opportunity for us to recognize that we'd been captured and we're not at a pace or good by this counterfeit system of total control.
00:49:33.000 Seems enjoyable from what you've read me so far.
00:49:35.000 Yeah, he's saying slow down, he's saying.
00:49:36.000 Yeah.
00:49:37.000 I mean, I remember it as a very slow time, certainly.
00:49:39.000 You liked it?
00:49:41.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I didn't obviously like anyone suffering.
00:49:43.000 You laughed and laughed as those people choked to death.
00:49:46.000 No, I didn't.
00:49:47.000 I was very, very sensitive to that.
00:49:49.000 But I will say that I was skeptical of the whole thing.
00:49:52.000 Almost on day one.
00:49:53.000 Almost day one.
00:49:53.000 You're like, what's going on?
00:49:54.000 It says this isn't normal.
00:49:56.000 This isn't right.
00:49:57.000 And then I gave you some research that I had done very quickly.
00:50:01.000 And you even said, no, I'm not sure about that.
00:50:04.000 That can't be right.
00:50:04.000 I was like, I think it is.
00:50:06.000 You were very busy at the vets, but you took some time off to step into epidemiology.
00:50:11.000 That's right.
00:50:12.000 Exactly.
00:50:12.000 Anyway, so I like what he says at the end.
00:50:15.000 Do you want to read this poem?
00:50:16.000 I'll read that at the end.
00:50:17.000 May I read a couple of comments first?
00:50:18.000 And then we'll.
00:50:19.000 Can we close on this?
00:50:20.000 Yeah.
00:50:20.000 Okay.
00:50:21.000 Let me see how long this is.
00:50:22.000 This is perfect for an end to go out on, if that's okay.
00:50:25.000 Do you have anything more you want to say?
00:50:27.000 You know me.
00:50:28.000 Oh, well, okay.
00:50:29.000 Well, I'm going to have to end it because you're ready to move on to your next part of the day.
00:50:33.000 Yeah.
00:50:33.000 Yeah.
00:50:34.000 Do you love me or not?
00:50:35.000 Yes.
00:50:37.000 Yes, I do love you.
00:50:38.000 You're very funny.
00:50:40.000 At melon229, thank you for the helpful discussion on prayer.
00:50:44.000 Last week, we talked about prayer and emergency prayer and the prayer when you're feeling desperate, but also the kind of daily, what did you say?
00:50:53.000 More like a continual way of life.
00:50:56.000 You just did an orange strap along the caravan.
00:50:58.000 It's gone again.
00:50:59.000 It's gone.
00:51:00.000 I'll be praying for little Herbie, for Laura's heart that must be stretched in a million directions at the moment.
00:51:05.000 Yes.
00:51:06.000 For you, Russell, and for the testing weeks ahead.
00:51:08.000 You are both such an encouragement and a light and doing an amazing job at normalizing faith in this generation.
00:51:14.000 P.S. Great observations on The Truman Show, which happens to be my favorite film.
00:51:17.000 Quite a few people said my favorite film, actually.
00:51:20.000 At SeagullGP, love this and touched by your authenticity.
00:51:23.000 This really helps me and gives me hope.
00:51:25.000 That was just on the nature of the episode last week.
00:51:28.000 At RainSunshine522.
00:51:31.000 I'm praying for you, Russell, Laura, and your beautiful family.
00:51:34.000 You're walking through the valley of the shadow of death.
00:51:37.000 Keep walking in faith.
00:51:38.000 You are not alone.
00:51:40.000 And that is somebody from Australia.
00:51:42.000 Thanks.
00:51:43.000 They put a little flag at the end.
00:51:45.000 I'm going to read this, Patient Trust.
00:51:48.000 And do you know anything of the author of this, Pierre Tailhart Desjardins SG?
00:51:56.000 No.
00:51:56.000 No.
00:51:56.000 But this is from the book that we've just been discussing by Hunter Lambeth, In Search of the Good Way, The Quest to Live Life at the Pace of Christ.
00:52:05.000 Beautiful, beautiful book, Patient Trust.
00:52:09.000 Above all, trust in the slow work of God.
00:52:13.000 We are quite naturally impatient in everything to reach the end without delay.
00:52:18.000 We should like to skip the intermediate stages.
00:52:22.000 We are impatient of being on the way to something unknown, something new.
00:52:27.000 And yet, it is the law of all progress that it is made by passing through some stages of instability and that it may take a very long time.
00:52:36.000 And so, I think it is with you.
00:52:38.000 Your ideas mature gradually.
00:52:40.000 Let them grow.
00:52:41.000 Let them shape themselves without undue haste.
00:52:45.000 Don't try to force them on, as though you could be today what time, that is to say, grace and circumstances acting on your own goodwill, will make of you tomorrow.
00:52:55.000 Only God could say what this new spirit gradually forming within you will be.
00:53:00.000 Give our Lord the benefit of believing that his hand is leading you, and accept the anxiety of feeling yourself in suspense and incomplete.
00:53:12.000 Beautiful.
00:53:12.000 It's really beautiful.
00:53:14.000 I don't like the old suspense.
00:53:16.000 No, suspense is hard, but you know, yeah, suspense is hard.
00:53:22.000 Do you want to pray for us to end this?
00:53:24.000 Yes.
00:53:27.000 So, like this.
00:53:28.000 This is the first thing he's included is from Jeremiah 6 16, and it's lovely.
00:53:32.000 I'm going to read this and then I'll go into a prayer.
00:53:35.000 Stand at the crossroads and look.
00:53:37.000 Ask for the ancient paths.
00:53:39.000 Ask where the good way is and walk in it.
00:53:42.000 And you will find rest for your souls.
00:53:44.000 Jeremiah 6 16.
00:53:46.000 That's pretty lovely, isn't it?
00:53:47.000 That's after Jeremiah is laughing to tell people to really step up.
00:53:52.000 He's had enough of this lot.
00:53:53.000 Yeah.
00:53:54.000 And he's really been through it as Jeremiah.
00:53:57.000 Why won't they listen?
00:53:59.000 Stand at the crossroads.
00:54:00.000 Rest for yourselves.
00:54:01.000 We were not walking.
00:54:02.000 I pointed watchmen over you.
00:54:05.000 Interdimensional beings, if you carry on another line.
00:54:08.000 Of course, the beginning.
00:54:09.000 Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.
00:54:13.000 Before you were born, I set you apart.
00:54:16.000 I appointed you as a prophet for the nations.
00:54:18.000 You know, I read another translation of Jeremiah 1 5 the other day.
00:54:22.000 He said, Before I formed you in the belly.
00:54:24.000 And it was interesting because it made me think when Christ came to me, it was in the belly.
00:54:30.000 So it's not like I uterally formed in the belly of my mother.
00:54:34.000 No, it was my own belly.
00:54:37.000 I felt him go, Oh, yeah.
00:54:39.000 Visceral.
00:54:40.000 Not through the intellect, not through the mind, not through the vocabulary, but through the gut.
00:54:45.000 That's right.
00:54:46.000 That's where you've got to watch them vaccines, baby, gut health, and cerebral health.
00:54:50.000 I'm going to move into a prayer now, and then we're going to close the show if that's okay today.
00:54:54.000 But let's take a moment.
00:55:02.000 Hey, dear God, thank you for being with us today.
00:55:07.000 Thank you for the sound of our children playing and friends.
00:55:12.000 Thank you for the bird that's really chirping, I can hear, and the chickens that I can hear in the background.
00:55:19.000 And thank you for the lessons that we can learn from all the people that we meet, whether it's when we're in hospitals or veterinary clinics or whether it's strangers in the street, the things that we can take from encounters with strangers that really they can show us things about ourselves and guide us in many ways in what we need to know, whether that's bringing something up.
00:55:46.000 And I'm talking about the feeling you can get, whether it's an impatience at something, like it says.
00:55:51.000 And impatience to be where you think you need to be, or whether it's wanting something that you don't have, as we've mentioned today, that feeling of like worldly possessions or whatever it is.
00:56:03.000 Just show us, God, what we're meant to show us, God, how we're meant to live and how we're meant to respect that slowness and that pace and that the pace of your living, Jesus Christ, how you lived, as it says in that book and in the Jeremiah passage there.
00:56:19.000 You know, I pray for rest for everybody's souls, for our souls.
00:56:25.000 I can pray personally for the rest for my own soul so that I can be a great mother and a wife.
00:56:31.000 And so I take care of myself when I can remember to.
00:56:34.000 It's hard, it's hard because I feel like.
00:56:36.000 I'm busy and I feel anxious sometimes, and I but I do know that rest is important.
00:56:43.000 And as we speak today, as on this Sabbath day, day of rest, thank you for giving us that, God.
00:56:51.000 Thank you, Russell.
00:56:54.000 Amen.
00:56:55.000 Oh, amen.
00:56:57.000 Thank you.