Stay Free - Russel Brand - September 25, 2026


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00:00:09 Yeah.
00:00:14 Hey Laura Brand.
00:00:21 Hello.
00:00:22 Wherever you are in the world, maybe you're in the UK, maybe you're in Australia.
00:00:30 Let us know in the comments and chat.
00:00:32 Maybe you're in Scandinavia.
00:00:35 Maybe you're in Greenland.
00:00:37 Maybe you're in Japan.
00:00:40 Wherever you are, you are participants in a holy celestial colonnade of God's children. 0.97
00:00:48 Welcome to Sunday service with the Browns.
00:01:00 Of course, that was one of my favourite pieces of scores of music.
00:01:05 I thought you were going to say parts of your body, Russell, your upper body, nude and strong.
00:01:10 I want people to know that in the back of my mind, I was wondering, we'll pray in a second.
00:01:15 I was wondering if you go, Russell, put a shirt on because of a lack of modesty, but you don't even, did it even cross your mind?
00:01:22 No, I think more about like, because you're in your own home, we're on a porch, we're in quite hot weather.
00:01:30 I think it's okay that you aren't wearing a shirt.
00:01:33 I worry more when you and the kids don't wear shoes in sort of the vets and hospitals and the theme parks.
00:01:40 Russell didn't wear shoes in a theme park the other day, and it really kept almost getting us into quite a lot of trouble.
00:01:47 As the philosopher Baudrillard said, the fact that Disney World is in America distracts you from the fact that Disney World is America.
00:01:53 That's right.
00:01:54 Meaning that the CIA, if they want something specific from you, and I have this from the highest possible sources, are able to create around you a 360 diorama where your every interaction Is being coaxed into the achievement of a particular objective.
00:02:10 Say, if you had a bit of information they wanted, they would ensure that someone at your place of work was able to guide you this way.
00:02:16 Then you would have a chance encounter with someone else, and ultimately they would get that information.
00:02:21 There's probably public records of how these things are practiced, but I happen to have access to some esoteric information.
00:02:29 But all of us are in a general system of control where we're being generally shepherded.
00:02:36 Generally, shepherded towards here, have access to this information.
00:02:40 You might be arguing against this particular public figure, you might be arguing for this public figure, but as long as you're engaged in an argument confined to the vocabulary and generalized paradigm of the culture, we own your consciousness.
00:02:56 By consciousness, I mean attention and intelligence.
00:02:59 I know consciousness is more complex than that, but let's just start there.
00:03:02 Sri Prave.
00:03:03 And just to finish that thread, by the way, it was the celestial beings from.
00:03:08 Studio Ghibli's Princess Kagura, which is one of our favourite films.
00:03:13 First date, back together.
00:03:15 Yeah.
00:03:16 Back in N1, back in what year did we get back together?
00:03:19 We're talking a bit about.
00:03:21 2008, 2009?
00:03:22 No.
00:03:23 Back together?
00:03:23 No, sorry, 2016, 14.
00:03:28 Yeah.
00:03:29 Yeah. 0.64
00:03:30 I always count back from Mabel.
00:03:31 But when did we first meet?
00:03:34 Gosh.
00:03:35 2004, 5, 6.
00:03:37 Something like that.
00:03:38 Yeah.
00:03:39 We've known each other a long time, you and I, Laura.
00:03:42 And Mrs. Brand, during that period, have you ever known your husband?
00:03:47 Are you using the.
00:03:48 Don't use this before as a practice.
00:03:53 Whoa.
00:03:54 Practice.
00:03:54 What does our Lord say?
00:03:56 What does he say?
00:03:57 What about trials and tribulations?
00:03:58 Yeah, he says this.
00:04:02 He says.
00:04:03 No, no, this again.
00:04:04 You made me think while you're saying that.
00:04:05 You made me think of that song at the end of Studio Ghibli called When I Remember This Life.
00:04:10 Oh, that's a heartbreaker.
00:04:11 And I really want to find the English song.
00:04:13 Translation of it, maybe to read at some point.
00:04:15 It's very, very busy.
00:04:16 Go on, read it today.
00:04:17 I can't find the English.
00:04:18 It's coming up in Japanese, which isn't helpful for me because I can't read Japanese yet.
00:04:24 No, of course. 0.62
00:04:24 Well done. 0.62
00:04:25 Yeah.
00:04:25 Well done with it yet.
00:04:30 Gosh.
00:04:30 Okay.
00:04:30 Here we go.
00:04:32 The Tale of Princess Kagawa.
00:04:37 Now.
00:04:38 Gosh.
00:04:40 I remember.
00:04:40 Here we go.
00:04:41 It's translated actually as Memory of Life, but the song seems to be called.
00:04:46 When I remember this life.
00:04:47 Anyway, the joy I felt when I touched you went deep, deep down and seeped into every nook and cranny of this body.
00:04:52 Even if I'm far away and no longer understand anything, even when the time comes for this life to end, everything of now is everything of the past.
00:05:03 We'll meet again, I'm sure, in some nostalgic place.
00:05:08 To the some of it's blurred out, deep, deep down comes to me now complete from a time long past, steadily in my heart.
00:05:17 The flames of passion give light and softly soothe my pain down to the depths of my grief.
00:05:21 Everything now is hope for the future.
00:05:24 I'll remember, I'm sure, in some nostalgic place.
00:05:27 Everything of now is everything of the past.
00:05:29 We'll meet again, I'm sure, in some nostalgic place.
00:05:32 It goes on.
00:05:33 Anyway, it's a very, very beautiful Japanese, like almost sounds like a lullaby when she's singing it.
00:05:38 We have a Japanese friend that could maybe tell us.
00:05:41 I bet that I don't ever trust in translations. 1.00
00:05:44 No, I don't know about me. 0.99
00:05:45 I understand that.
00:05:46 For example, nostalgia, our pain.
00:05:48 I mean, I wonder what the Japanese equivalent is nostalgia, our pain.
00:05:52 Yes, I agree with you.
00:05:53 And also, when I look at that translation of it, I have seen another translation of it as well.
00:05:58 It wasn't quite the same.
00:05:59 The bit that is for certain is the sort of nostalgic potty in some nostalgic place.
00:06:06 It's extremely sad.
00:06:07 I remember listening to that song actually.
00:06:08 It's sad and beautiful.
00:06:10 It's at the end of, if you haven't watched Princess Kagura, it's by the sort of the anime or the Studio Ghibli Japanese anime group who did Spirited Away and Howl's Moving Castle and all those sort of great Ponyo, brilliant films.
00:06:27 And they're very deep.
00:06:29 They're very, very deep.
00:06:30 And I really recommend them as a sort of nourishing family film because I think you learn a lot from it.
00:06:35 And you can watch them with translation.
00:06:37 But that celestial being's procession right at the end of Princess Kagua is very moving.
00:06:43 And that was the music at the beginning that we were listening to.
00:06:47 Because it's the returning of the child to the celestial plane.
00:06:52 Encoded in folklore are deep and enduring truths that abide in spite of the superficial changes of culture.
00:07:02 These changes are always regarded as epochal, whether they are the automobile, the umbrella, the wheel, or AI.
00:07:12 But compared to God, these changes are nothing.
00:07:16 The deep truths of the one true creator are taking place in the eternal now.
00:07:23 I am the Alpha and the Omega.
00:07:26 There is nothing outside me or beyond me.
00:07:29 Let us begin in prayer.
00:07:32 Dear beloved Lord Jesus.
00:07:35 God, thank you that we may know you here without brokerage, without negotiation, that through every breath we may know you.
00:07:45 The in breath that brought Adam, the dirt clay man, to life, the exhalation of your Son, you, Lord God, Jesus Christ, Emmanuel, morning star on the cross, this exhalation.
00:08:00 The inhalation of Adam and the exhalation of Christ could be regarded as the single breath upon which all reality hangs, creation.
00:08:09 And reconciliation, Lord, may me and Laura know that reconciliation today with our temporal and digital congregation here.
00:08:17 Whether you're watching us, whatever app you've opened on your phone or your laptop to watch us, I'm so grateful that you are with us here now as we travel through time on this celestial parade forever.
00:08:30 The verse I was looking for, I think, is somewhere in Mark when you are in court, don't need to prepare, the Holy Spirit will speak for you.
00:08:40 Lord God, be with us as we prepare for our return to London.
00:08:45 Look, God, I pray for truth and justice and for the best outcome for everyone involved in this trial.
00:08:52 Lord, who am I, after what you endured for me, to ask for anything other than whatever you have for me and for my family?
00:09:00 You gave us everything.
00:09:02 It's all yours anyway.
00:09:04 Nothing belongs to us.
00:09:06 I didn't give myself fingers, the English language, hair, or Laura, or the beautiful Floridian breeze, nor did I give myself a reputation or a career.
00:09:18 You were always with me, Lord.
00:09:20 Every second of my life, you have been with me.
00:09:23 You are the judge.
00:09:24 You are the king.
00:09:25 And it is you I serve, Jesus Christ.
00:09:28 Thank you that we can come together in common unity here, communicating and creating true community.
00:09:36 And Lord, from what I see in my country, the UK right now, we need it.
00:09:41 This is a time where the enemy, the fallen one has managed to lacquer and shellac your glorious kingdom.
00:09:48 with counterfeit bureaucratic systems, Lord, where your power is being emulated and everywhere synthesized by false idols and false gods, flinging up their antennae, their poles and worshiping at false altars.
00:10:02 Oh, Lord God, I repent of my former life where I worshiped at the false altar of self, thinking what I wanted and what I didn't want were the highest principles.
00:10:13 Now, Lord God, Jesus Christ, ever present living Messiah, we serve and adore you.
00:10:19 And it is in your name we pray, Jesus.
00:10:21 Amen.
00:10:21 Amen.
00:10:26 How's your week?
00:10:28 Sure.
00:10:29 To Her Majesty's government.
00:10:31 There you go.
00:10:32 Hold on a minute. 0.99
00:10:32 Did she die that one? 0.99
00:10:35 Yes.
00:10:35 His Majesty.
00:10:37 His Majesty.
00:10:38 God save the King.
00:10:40 That's right.
00:10:43 So, yes, these are some of the things that I wanted to talk about, my darling one.
00:10:49 Yeah.
00:10:49 Deep truths.
00:10:50 This is coming somewhat as a result of my friendship with Christy and Astes.
00:10:53 And Sarah, get Christy to watch this.
00:10:56 Our friend Sarah's in there.
00:10:58 Christy is a Palestinian woman from Bethlehem.
00:11:02 Bethlehem.
00:11:03 I know.
00:11:03 Imagine that.
00:11:04 Where are you from?
00:11:06 Bethlehem.
00:11:07 Yeah.
00:11:07 There's a Palestinian Christian from Bethlehem.
00:11:10 Yeah.
00:11:11 So, um.
00:11:12 She asked me where I was from.
00:11:13 Oh, where are you from? 0.86
00:11:14 She looks a bit like that.
00:11:15 Well, I'm from Windsor, actually, where the castle is.
00:11:17 Oh, yes, I mean.
00:11:18 Well, I'm from Bethlehem.
00:11:19 Oh, Bethlehem.
00:11:20 That's how she spoke.
00:11:23 She's like that.
00:11:24 That's right.
00:11:24 But what I like her is she speaks the languages that precede Hebrew.
00:11:29 She learned from a rabbi Hebrew, and then she learned, and I love saying this, the proto Canaanite and proto Sinite languages that preceded written Hebrew.
00:11:39 Pictorial, therefore, somewhat hieroglyphic languages.
00:11:44 She's been showing me some of that stuff.
00:11:46 Did she give you the book that's this book here?
00:11:49 This book?
00:11:51 No, I just got that.
00:11:52 I actually got that in, I believe it was Walmart.
00:11:55 Oh, an ancient old shop of yesteryear.
00:12:01 Yes, I've been to Walmart.
00:12:03 Actually, I bought a book in Walmart.
00:12:04 I myself went to the Sorbonne in Paris.
00:12:08 I went to Walmart in Panama Beach.
00:12:11 What did you just say?
00:12:15 I bought a book in Walmart on spiritual warfare worksheets, actually, which I haven't stuck to.
00:12:19 Get on with them.
00:12:20 I can tell you've not done the spiritual war.
00:12:22 It shows in your game, love.
00:12:24 Shows.
00:12:24 I better get on with it.
00:12:25 You ain't done your Walmart worksheets on spiritual warfare.
00:12:28 Now, these are the names of God, like El Alam.
00:12:31 And she's got me some Bible in Hebrew and she's teaching me how to do it.
00:12:36 El Olam, El Olam, El Olam.
00:12:38 That is the eternal God, I think.
00:12:41 You know, as in we describe different aspects of God.
00:12:44 El Olam, yeah, the everlasting God or the eternal God.
00:12:46 The Hebrew name for the God who has no beginning and no end.
00:12:49 The God for whom one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.
00:12:53 We'd forget, don't we, that this, oh, I like what you've put those little roses there, that this little device is, you know, it's somewhat arbitrary.
00:13:03 You mean the clocks?
00:13:04 Yes.
00:13:04 All right.
00:13:05 Even the most reliable clocks in the world, atomic clocks, what are they measuring really?
00:13:09 Velocity?
00:13:10 Distance?
00:13:11 What are they measuring?
00:13:12 What are you talking about?
00:13:14 It changes according to gravitational pull.
00:13:16 It doesn't really exist.
00:13:17 It can't be pinned down.
00:13:18 Time is a mystery, like me, babe.
00:13:21 Yeah.
00:13:22 Yeah, babe.
00:13:23 Yeah, babe. 1.00
00:13:24 Anyway, hanging out with this lady, Christy, she's been coming on The Rumble Show.
00:13:27 Check out some of the many conversations I've had with her on there.
00:13:29 Has helped me to understand that the same way as one might see a Roman alphabet, the one we use.
00:13:34 I really shouldn't have known this.
00:13:35 It's numerals, isn't it?
00:13:36 It's numerals.
00:13:37 Anyway, that alphabet that we're all using, let me know in the comments and chat.
00:13:41 That one, you can translate it into, you know, if you're reading the New Testament, you might want to put it in the two to the second.
00:13:46 Septuagint, like the original Greek that it was compiled in.
00:13:50 Or if you're reading the Old Testament, you might want to be the original Hebrew.
00:13:52 Or if it's something Christ said, Aramaic, you want to know what actually God said.
00:13:57 Because that Japanese song that you translate there, I can tell they won't have used nostalgia.
00:14:01 They won't have a concept for it.
00:14:02 Some languages, like, see, the obvious example being Schadenfreude, the taking delight in other people's pain, which seems to me, I don't know, but people dig that.
00:14:11 There is no equivalent word for that.
00:14:14 There's an equivalent phrase.
00:14:15 Nostalgia is, gosh, I don't know. 0.57
00:14:18 Is it French?
00:14:18 It's a French phrase.
00:14:19 The other word that's just coming to me there is that Schwiss, Schwissfen, Schwissfen, no, Schwissen, which is the in between. 0.96
00:14:28 I think this is right. 0.97
00:14:29 Schwissen.
00:14:30 Schwissen, which I think is spelled with a Z, but I have to really, maybe I've got it wrong.
00:14:34 Schwissen, something like that, where it's the in between, where you're about to have, you're in between worlds of like being pregnant and having a baby, and it's the last part of the pregnancy.
00:14:44 And it's a word that almost means you have to enter another realm.
00:14:47 In order to go in, do go into another room.
00:14:49 Yeah, why are you not checking these things if you really want to do that?
00:14:51 Because my battery's about to run out and I thought that was plugged in and it's not.
00:14:54 It's not plugged in.
00:14:55 So it's on a loose, this is just on a get up and do it.
00:14:57 It's an illusion.
00:14:58 Oh, it's a waste of time.
00:14:59 You think I can't fill?
00:15:01 You think I haven't presented things like Comic Relief or the MTV VMA Awards?
00:15:04 You think that I'm not able to legitimately provide content for a brief period of time while you plug something in and make an easy analogy like we must remain connected to the source to receive the necessary invisible signals?
00:15:17 I know.
00:15:18 With the interface working.
00:15:19 And to then point out that even when you think you're scrolling, what you're looking at is code.
00:15:24 So you are living in an illusion.
00:15:25 And would you think that that's the summit of the illusion?
00:15:27 Don't you think that this reality is likely a code that we're translating and interpreting through the senses, but we're not getting the objective reality?
00:15:35 Here we go.
00:15:36 Shall we read it?
00:15:37 Yeah.
00:15:37 Okay.
00:15:38 That was filling.
00:15:39 Well, it was really good filling.
00:15:40 He did good filling.
00:15:41 The Schwiesen.
00:15:42 Britney Spears.
00:15:43 Best new act.
00:15:45 What is Schwiesen?
00:15:46 A German word meaning between.
00:15:48 Schwiesen is a term adopted, I'm ignoring that, into birth lexicon.
00:15:51 More than a decade ago, by a US doula midwife and author, Diana Stordelska, to describe the long last days and weeks of pregnancy.
00:16:00 It's a term I use when talking to people, this person's written about the waiting period, which can feel as if time stands still.
00:16:08 So that I suppose it goes on to say, yeah.
00:16:11 So Germans have a word, Schwissen, which means between.
00:16:15 I've co opted that word for my own obstetrical uses.
00:16:20 So the word is not to do with birth, but it's now.
00:16:23 And used in that terminology when talking about the time.
00:16:28 I suggest that they are now in a time of Schwesin, the time of the in between, where the opening begins.
00:16:33 Giving it a name gives it a dimension and an experience closer to wonder than endurance.
00:16:38 Excellent.
00:16:39 It's a liminal space, it's a portal space, and that actually ties in very nicely to some of the themes that we were talking about today on Sunday service, and indeed that celestial parade, because Schwissen, maybe all life is a form of Schwissen, because temporarily we are here, we occupy tents or tabernacles, these vessels, the body that is passing away.
00:16:58 And did you not know that you are not your body and your body doesn't belong to you, that you are the Holy Spirit, that you are not your own?
00:17:03 And if you are, as Paul says, sleeping with sex workers, you're making Jesus do that, you're making the Spirit.
00:17:11 The pure principle of God in flesh, you're making God in flesh like stare at porn or whatever sin, or I suppose that's more vice than sin.
00:17:21 Because other sins include, and I've been enjoying Father Mike Schmidt's material.
00:17:25 Oh, fantastic.
00:17:26 Gossip, entitlement.
00:17:29 The blind spots, is that what he was doing?
00:17:30 Yes, that's right.
00:17:31 Blind spots, Father Mike Schmidt's excellent series.
00:17:33 I do love him.
00:17:34 He's a wonderful priest.
00:17:37 There's very good on the point of entitlement, like when you think, I should have this, I shouldn't have that, why have I got to go through this?
00:17:43 Why have I got to go through Through that, why haven't I got this?
00:17:45 You know, having an opinion on what reality should be like, even though you are not the creator of reality.
00:17:50 One time in a 12 step meeting, and I'm ever grateful that I received such a wonderful training in spirituality and continue to receive a training in spirituality from 12 step environments.
00:17:59 Someone reported in a 12 step meeting once, you know, that they were saying to their sponsor, I should be married, I should have a girlfriend, I should have this, I should have that.
00:18:10 And their sponsor said, You should be dead. 0.99
00:18:12 You should be dead. 1.00
00:18:13 That's blunt. 1.00
00:18:14 Yeah. 1.00
00:18:15 The way you drank, the way you took drugs, you should be dead. 1.00
00:18:17 Yeah. 1.00
00:18:18 So, whatever happens, it's all from him.
00:18:20 It's all from God.
00:18:21 It's all from him.
00:18:22 He is giving you, oh, I don't want a dead baby.
00:18:25 Sorry.
00:18:26 Ow.
00:18:26 You know, like whatever it is, whatever terrible, awful thing, our job is to share in his suffering.
00:18:34 Now, my point about these sort of gradients of linguistic or semantic understanding is in this instance this.
00:18:40 While doing yoga, I continue to do yoga, even though some Christians think it ain't good, because I stay, I feel very close to Jesus.
00:18:46 And whilst you can open yourself, I know that there are interdimensional entities and beings and spirits all around us.
00:18:52 I know that.
00:18:53 And, you know, that's true.
00:18:56 I believe that when you're in Christ, you are safe.
00:19:00 But also, you enjoy the embodiment of yoga.
00:19:03 There's nothing wrong with that. 0.62
00:19:05 Well, from a Catholic perspective, for example, it's wrong because it's deliberately evoking Kundalini spirit. 0.97
00:19:10 But what about stretching your muscles? 0.84
00:19:13 Well, do that.
00:19:13 Or do we call it something else?
00:19:15 Do it.
00:19:15 Don't do it.
00:19:16 Yeah.
00:19:16 Not only do you call it something else.
00:19:18 You don't go to yoga, you stretch wearing like maybe a German. 1.00
00:19:21 You know, when you see German people go. 1.00
00:19:21 Of course not. 1.00
00:19:23 Like in a.
00:19:24 Like in a.
00:19:24 Like this trench ball.
00:19:26 Like this trench ball in Matilda.
00:19:28 Shot put.
00:19:29 You would have a shot put brace worn.
00:19:31 Goodness me. 0.71
00:19:32 That's what.
00:19:33 That's insane.
00:19:34 Well, do you not think you can, through ritual, solicit spiritual ease and power?
00:19:39 Yeah.
00:19:40 Coming to think of it now, actually, but this is more to do with sportsmanship, I think.
00:19:44 But my dad, actually, who's very devout Catholic, He was never been into yoga, but that's besides the point.
00:19:51 He does something called Alexander Technique, which is all about posture.
00:19:55 And when I think about it, that's all quite, you know, that's the chakras lined up.
00:19:59 Yeah, but you're not calling them chakras in Alexander Technique.
00:20:02 It's very, you know.
00:20:05 In Revelation, it would be the seven churches, the seven lamps, the seven lights, the city street of Jerusalem with the crystal water throne from the throne of God right down to the rock.
00:20:14 You know, they're like, yeah, I think they're sort of the language that this ultimately.
00:20:20 Superficial language reveals ideas.
00:20:22 For those ideas to have form or be formulatable, you could see them as kind of shapes.
00:20:29 And is there something that helps you conceptually with this?
00:20:31 Yes, geometry.
00:20:33 You know what a triangle is.
00:20:34 You know what a square is.
00:20:35 You know what a dodecahedron is.
00:20:37 Well, actually, I've got no idea.
00:20:39 I was lying there.
00:20:40 What is it?
00:20:42 Is it like a honeycomb ball?
00:20:45 Oh, yeah, okay.
00:20:46 Yeah, like Epcot Centre.
00:20:48 It's like semi.
00:20:49 No, more like some sort of puzzle.
00:20:51 Like, say for people that can do them Rubik's Cubes.
00:20:53 Yeah.
00:20:54 Like that, it's too easy.
00:20:55 So it's got many, many surfaces.
00:20:58 It's got many, it'll be a certain number.
00:21:00 What's the word?
00:21:01 Dodahedron.
00:21:02 So can you take anything from that?
00:21:04 Nothing.
00:21:05 No.
00:21:05 It's beyond me.
00:21:06 I shouldn't have mentioned it.
00:21:07 Is it?
00:21:07 I don't know why I brought it up.
00:21:09 It doesn't matter, does it?
00:21:10 It doesn't matter, does it?
00:21:11 But I'm saying that there are shapes that are identifiable consistently, regardless of your cultural background.
00:21:16 Yes, you're right.
00:21:17 And that's my point.
00:21:18 And so, like, my point is this that while I was doing yoga, in one of the bits between poses, when I was laying my back in that hot, hot room, trying to think of my breath like it was water, like, oh man, I'm so hot.
00:21:29 You know, I mean, temperature wise, not.
00:21:30 I'm so hot.
00:21:32 Yeah, baby.
00:21:33 Look, I got it all.
00:21:36 I'm a shirtless man telling the world I'm hot.
00:21:38 I knew what you meant.
00:21:40 I know what you mean.
00:21:40 I've been in that room.
00:21:41 I've been in that 100 degrees and I loathed every second of it.
00:21:45 Why?
00:21:46 I felt claustrophobic.
00:21:47 I don't like the different smells that I can smell in there.
00:21:50 What do you mean, smells?
00:21:51 Sometimes there's quite sweaty smells.
00:21:53 What do you mean?
00:21:54 Do you think it's people's bottom cliffs?
00:21:56 No, they're just.
00:21:57 They're pictures.
00:21:57 I'm sensitive to sort of the sort of mixture of that.
00:22:00 Not their nifkins. 1.00
00:22:02 The breaths and the sweats and stuff. 0.99
00:22:04 It wasn't.
00:22:04 Not the rat pipe.
00:22:06 I had to.
00:22:06 Not the stink whistle.
00:22:07 I had to get through a lot.
00:22:09 Not the Murkin's mouth.
00:22:10 Okay, that's.
00:22:12 I just, you know, you know me.
00:22:13 And like, I'm like, stop.
00:22:17 Not the, um, the, oh, you think it'll be the pig mulch?
00:22:21 Yeah, that's right.
00:22:21 The pig mulch.
00:22:22 Pig pods.
00:22:24 Episode one.
00:22:26 No, I just, uh, find it overwhelming in a sensory kind of way.
00:22:30 Like, yes, extremely hard.
00:22:31 I find the things difficult.
00:22:33 Yeah, all of that.
00:22:34 So go on.
00:22:34 You're lying there and you're thinking, I'm harder than hell.
00:22:38 Go on.
00:22:39 If you can keep, like, if you can focus on your breath during that, this realization came.
00:22:45 It came this.
00:22:46 Oh, but to be focused on your breath when there's a lot of external distraction or stimulation, it's a bit like the feeling of threading a needle.
00:22:53 That idea came.
00:22:54 And in particular, when you're threading a needle and you have the thread and the thread's right against the eye of the needle, and you're like, hold on a minute, why is it not going through?
00:23:02 I've done everything I need to do, I've lined it up perfect, and it's still not going through.
00:23:07 Is it a frayed edge?
00:23:08 It might be a frayed edge.
00:23:09 Is it bad eyesight?
00:23:10 Could be.
00:23:13 Well, well, well.
00:23:14 Et two, Brutus.
00:23:16 At two.
00:23:18 Oh, well, that ain't that nice.
00:23:20 Or some of those cheap needles, the hole's too small, you know?
00:23:22 Yeah, it's different threads as well, very difficult to work with, I learned the other day.
00:23:26 So, anyway, so I continued and I was thinking about the level of concentration that's required with threading a needle.
00:23:32 Then it came to me this passage from Mark.
00:23:36 It's a famous passage, it's often called the rich young man or the rich young ruler.
00:23:42 The young man comes up to our Lord and says, Hey, what I've got to do to get into heaven?
00:23:48 In fact, here it is.
00:23:49 Let's read it out.
00:23:50 As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him.
00:23:54 Good teacher, he asked, What must I do to inherit eternal life?
00:23:57 Notice he's not saying go to heaven or an afterlife.
00:24:00 Inherit, that means exist within, in here, eternal life.
00:24:05 Life that is beyond the body, that is beyond time, actually.
00:24:09 That's what eternal means.
00:24:10 It means beyond time.
00:24:12 And time is decay, and decay is the presence of the enemy.
00:24:17 Death, the wages of sin is death.
00:24:19 Why do you call me good?
00:24:20 Jesus answered.
00:24:22 No one is good except God alone.
00:24:24 Isn't it lovely?
00:24:25 Jesus, he won't take a bit of credit.
00:24:26 No.
00:24:26 I mean, he's unbelievable.
00:24:28 Being in very nature God, he didn't see equality with God as something to be sought.
00:24:34 He is God.
00:24:35 Mary and her, like an attribute shared by the Holy Mother there and by our Lord and Savior, is both of them saying, My personal nature is irrelevant.
00:24:46 My rustleness, which is not a euphemism for my winky woo, my rustleness is not what defines me.
00:24:53 I am defined by, I am a conduit, a conductor for a higher thing.
00:24:58 Mary says, I'm the handmaid of the Lord, do what you gotta do.
00:25:01 Right.
00:25:01 She says to Gabriel.
00:25:03 And our Lord says, No, if you've seen me, you've seen the Father, there's no me here.
00:25:08 In fact, I say the true crucifixion is Gethsemane, where the man Christ dies.
00:25:13 Anyway, I can't back it up properly yet.
00:25:15 Oh, let me do this.
00:25:15 What I'm doing?
00:25:17 What must I do to inherit eternal life?
00:25:19 Why do you call me good?
00:25:20 Jesus answered.
00:25:21 No one is good except God alone.
00:25:23 You know the commandments, he says to this dude who's just kneeled down before him.
00:25:26 You shall not murder.
00:25:28 Cool.
00:25:28 Makes sense.
00:25:29 You shall not commit adultery.
00:25:30 Good rule.
00:25:31 You shall not steal.
00:25:32 Makes sense.
00:25:33 You shall not give false testimony.
00:25:36 Good idea.
00:25:37 You shall not defraud.
00:25:38 Yes, don't defraud.
00:25:40 Honor your father and mother.
00:25:41 Teacher, he declared, all these I've kept since I was a boy.
00:25:45 I've been doing that.
00:25:46 So that's what it says.
00:25:46 Like, you know, when you get advice from someone, like for example, when we were at a University of Florida vets getting our tortoise back, who's got an esophageal tube in his neck, which by the way, I'm feeding and administering medication and hydration, you know, twice a day to it.
00:26:04 How's that going?
00:26:05 It's challenging.
00:26:06 I actually texted our friend from the zoo the other day and said, I wish I had just trained as a vet.
00:26:12 It would have been easier with the amount of animals we had.
00:26:15 Yeah.
00:26:15 And also, by the way, I actually really enjoy the whole system of it.
00:26:19 Like, you've got the syringes on a tray and you are clean.
00:26:23 I wear a glove because I've got to help him with his little bit of his defecation, would you call it?
00:26:26 You mean helping with his defecation?
00:26:28 Well, he's so. 0.88
00:26:29 Don't salivate.
00:26:29 I'm not.
00:26:30 No, that was.
00:26:31 I thought I had something on my chin.
00:26:34 He has to be in a warm bath and then I have to administer the stuff through the esophageal tube.
00:26:41 It is an additional job I probably could do without.
00:26:44 But I also, I love this tortoise so much and I've got into a system with it.
00:26:49 Sandy, and I've got into a system and a rhythm, if you will.
00:26:52 So I actually do get some enjoyment from the sort of, you know, almost pretending I'm a vet.
00:26:58 In your mind, you're pretending.
00:27:00 Well, momentarily, well, when I'm a, yeah, when I'm dealing with measuring out opioids.
00:27:05 And that makes it harder because then you've got to measure out the opioids and pretend you're a vet.
00:27:09 It's two jobs.
00:27:10 It rolls into one.
00:27:12 It rolls into one.
00:27:13 I'm also following very, very, you know, meticulous instructions, by the way, guys.
00:27:17 I'm not just, you know, thinking.
00:27:20 That I know what I'm doing.
00:27:21 I am reading instructions and I'm just for a moment, I'm allowing myself to think.
00:27:26 I'm just indulging the fantasy for a moment that I trained for many years, that I'm extremely skilled.
00:27:33 I've got my own practice.
00:27:35 Oh, where is it?
00:27:35 Because it's a bit holistic.
00:27:36 Where is it?
00:27:37 It's a bit holistic.
00:27:37 Yeah, like there's special music playing in the background that's taking the animals onto a good wavelength.
00:27:42 Does it?
00:27:42 There's warm baths.
00:27:44 How do you know it works?
00:27:44 What's the science behind that?
00:27:45 Well, there's science behind that music.
00:27:47 Well, sometimes on Spotify, you can look up like, Calm music for cats and music to stop the dogs feeling anxious.
00:27:55 That is not science.
00:27:56 That's a Spotify playlist.
00:27:58 Okay, sorry, but you are the one that when I came home once, you were playing music which was making me like, and it was like, yes, 480 kilohertz.
00:28:08 Yeah, that's what it is.
00:28:10 It's the music that's at different ranges of.
00:28:14 All right, so you're trying to win this argument by conceding an argument we've had in the past.
00:28:18 That's married life, huh?
00:28:19 Yeah, that's what it is.
00:28:20 And it's also what it's like dealing with lawyers.
00:28:21 That's what lawyers do all the time.
00:28:23 They move their position.
00:28:24 You're like, wait a minute, you said that.
00:28:26 Oh, whoa.
00:28:27 Well, maybe what they've done.
00:28:28 I know that I once put that background music on for Bear, and he did not like it.
00:28:33 So he was not up for the calm dog music.
00:28:36 I put it on the screen and it was meant to be dog music.
00:28:39 Calm your dogs down.
00:28:40 And he was, ooh.
00:28:42 He was not enjoying it.
00:28:43 What about when he was high on Tramadol back from the vets and he saw those sort of masks we had from the National Theatre or whatever?
00:28:48 Paper Maché.
00:28:49 Paper Maché masks.
00:28:50 He was barking at them.
00:28:51 He wanted to have a fight with them, didn't he?
00:28:53 Like they were gargoyles.
00:28:53 Yeah, he was.
00:28:54 It was really, really insane, yeah, is it?
00:28:56 Anyway, well, my point is this when the rich young ruler says to our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus, I've been doing that, It's like when I was at the University of Florida vet in Gainesville, and good people, by the way, good people.
00:29:08 And like the lady goes, You've got to keep the tortoise in the bath.
00:29:10 I goes, Mate, that tortoise is in the bath the whole time.
00:29:13 So, like, you're doing that.
00:29:14 I goes, And I said to him, You're good.
00:29:16 Did you say mate?
00:29:17 I might have said mate.
00:29:18 I don't know.
00:29:18 They're American.
00:29:19 So, sometimes I say mate, maybe I'm just doing mate now.
00:29:21 Like, and I like to imagine myself in a flat cap, smoking a woodbine, wearing a brown coat.
00:29:24 I'm very English.
00:29:26 You never mind whether that tortoise is in a bath or not.
00:29:30 Yeah. 0.95
00:29:31 Keep your snare out of my face. 1.00
00:29:33 Mind you. 0.71
00:29:34 Mind your own business, mind your own beeswax.
00:29:36 Well, Mr. Brown is trying to advise you on what's best for the tortoise.
00:29:39 No, your point was you're telling me to do something that we're already doing, not necessarily obvious, but something that we're already doing, right?
00:29:46 Yeah, and therefore I'm concerned because we have this problem.
00:29:49 And if we have this problem and we're already doing something you're telling us to do, then that's not going to be the solution because we're already doing that, yes, yes, yes.
00:29:57 That's what I was saying to him, anyway.
00:29:58 So, this is what the Richard Young ruler is saying is I'm already doing that, I'm already not murdering anyone or doing adultery.
00:30:03 In fact, these are common sense, don't steal, don't give false testimony.
00:30:07 Don't defraud on your mum and dad teacher.
00:30:09 All these I've kept since I was a little boy.
00:30:10 The tortoise is in the bath right now, Lord.
00:30:12 It's drinking everything it wants. 0.98
00:30:14 His little butthole, relaxing and a fluxing. 0.99
00:30:16 Oh, yeah. 0.99
00:30:17 Actually, yeah.
00:30:17 Flexing and a fluxing.
00:30:19 With his tube taped to his shell.
00:30:21 Little neck hole tube taped on his back.
00:30:24 Which I'm keeping nice and clean and dry.
00:30:26 Would you mind if I just got that neck, the tube, and just swung the tortoise around like that and went, whee!
00:30:30 See you later, there.
00:30:31 No, that wouldn't go down good.
00:30:32 He's also, by the way, I'm doing red light therapy on him too.
00:30:36 He's under the red light all night long.
00:30:37 Did you even notice?
00:30:38 He's like Roxanne, that to us.
00:30:40 Put on the red light.
00:30:42 Sandy, put on the red light.
00:30:43 Yeah, he's getting high level care. 0.99
00:30:45 He's like an amphibious sex worker. 0.92
00:30:48 He's under that red light. 1.00
00:30:49 He's got a tube down his neck card.
00:30:51 No, yeah.
00:30:52 Yeah, I could go further with that joke.
00:30:53 Yeah, don't go further because this is Sunday service.
00:30:56 They're good jokes, though.
00:30:57 Very good jokes.
00:30:58 They're auto eroticism jokes.
00:31:01 And when those people are found, that's asphyxiation.
00:31:03 Okay, but we don't need to go into that.
00:31:05 That's not for that.
00:31:05 It's not when you've got the Bible.
00:31:07 Definitely not.
00:31:08 In your hand.
00:31:09 And there might be a variety of ages.
00:31:10 But he makes all things.
00:31:11 The Sabbath was made for man, the man not made for the Sabbath.
00:31:14 He wants us in absolute truth.
00:31:15 I am the truth, the life and the way.
00:31:17 I am the truth.
00:31:18 Start with truth.
00:31:19 If you're not doing truth, you're not even at the starting line.
00:31:22 So you can do one.
00:31:25 All right.
00:31:25 So you should not murder.
00:31:26 You should not.
00:31:27 Anyway, teacher, I've been doing all this since I was a boy.
00:31:28 Jesus looked at him and loved him.
00:31:30 I love that.
00:31:31 Why does he love him?
00:31:32 I mean, obviously, I know why he loved him.
00:31:34 That's a bit like Jesus wept in the Lazarus story in John.
00:31:36 Oh my gosh.
00:31:37 Jesus looked at him and loved him.
00:31:39 Jesus wept.
00:31:41 One thing you lack, he said.
00:31:44 Go sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
00:31:49 Then come follow me.
00:31:52 Yeah.
00:31:53 At this, the man's face fell.
00:31:55 He went away sad because he had great wealth.
00:31:59 The wealth game gets a lot of people, a lot of people that have wealth, and a lot of people that don't have wealth.
00:32:04 They're in the wealth game.
00:32:06 The gracious Lord protected us from that.
00:32:08 Thank you, Father.
00:32:10 I know what it's like to not have money.
00:32:12 I know what it's like to have money.
00:32:13 I know what it's like to have Christ.
00:32:15 I know what it's like to not have Christ.
00:32:17 Christ is better.
00:32:20 The disciples were amazed.
00:32:22 So, anyway, Jesus looked round and said to his disciples, How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God.
00:32:28 I wonder when he says stuff like that to them.
00:32:30 He's trying to get a chat going, isn't he?
00:32:31 Yeah.
00:32:33 They oblige.
00:32:34 The disciples were amazed at his words.
00:32:36 But Jesus said again, Children, ah, he recognizes now. 0.98
00:32:39 He's dealing with their dimwits, aren't they? 0.96
00:32:42 I mean, this is before they're saying Peter and St. John and et cetera, St. Jude, Bartholomew. 0.98
00:32:48 Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God.
00:32:51 And this is the bit I wanted to get to.
00:32:53 It's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.
00:33:00 People have discussed that line because it's a bizarre image.
00:33:03 Some people even saying that the needle's eye was a famous gate in the city walls of Jerusalem.
00:33:09 Yeah.
00:33:09 So small that people would have to unpack and debag their beast of burden camels in order for the camel to pass through the eye of a needle.
00:33:17 Yes.
00:33:18 But I now, it came to me direct that what he was saying is this is what he says Children, it's easier for a camel to thread a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.
00:33:33 Fred.
00:33:34 That'll be it.
00:33:34 And I bet when you look at the Greek or the Aramaic that he would have said it in.
00:33:37 But do you know what I always thought of it as?
00:33:39 And when I've heard it before, was simply that it's difficult because it's got, you have to navigate, you're going at a level and you have to navigate a hump to get it through one shape.
00:33:51 Oh, like it's one of those things at a church fair.
00:33:53 A bit like that.
00:33:54 Hold on a minute, that camel's enormous.
00:33:56 Camel's not going to be the problem, right?
00:33:58 I've got it over his muzzle, over his ears.
00:34:01 That was a magic.
00:34:01 Right down his neck.
00:34:03 Oh, no.
00:34:03 What's this?
00:34:04 I was just like that.
00:34:05 I was imagining a very small camel.
00:34:09 It's not hard to get a very small camel from the Ivory Needle. 0.92
00:34:11 That's a piece of cake.
00:34:14 Get that in easy.
00:34:16 Fire them through like a double slit experiment.
00:34:18 Bam, bada, bam, bada, bada, bam, wave and pile.
00:34:20 Genuinely.
00:34:21 Whenever I've heard that, even in the last couple of days when we fashioned this or yesterday, I've been imagining it like that game going through the thing.
00:34:30 Yeah.
00:34:30 Well, that's all well and good.
00:34:32 You could do what you want in your imagination.
00:34:34 That is your playground.
00:34:35 Where I'm a vet.
00:34:37 In your mind, where you're a vet playing music to tortoises with no clinical trials or double blind studies to back up your mad hypotheses.
00:34:47 Yeah.
00:34:48 And you're, what are you doing?
00:34:49 You're playing music to tortoises, you're injecting their tramadol down their neck holes, you're following up with a bowl of guns.
00:34:55 Yeah.
00:34:56 And then I'm putting them in a bath morning, noon, and night.
00:34:59 Yeah.
00:34:59 Red light therapy.
00:35:00 And then you're imagining a camel going through the eye of a needle and the problem being the hump.
00:35:06 And by the way, I also imagine a double hump.
00:35:09 That's a drummer dairy.
00:35:11 Or, there we go.
00:35:14 No, look, could you mind?
00:35:16 I'm actually trying to unravel the deepest mysteries of scripture and consciousness.
00:35:20 And my purpose here is to challenge you to what's in my mind.
00:35:26 That.
00:35:28 So go on.
00:35:29 Job done.
00:35:30 If it's your intention to hurt me and to mock me, well done.
00:35:39 Well done.
00:35:40 Pray work.
00:35:41 Do you like hurting people?
00:35:43 Do you?
00:35:43 Yeah.
00:35:45 So, no, I think he's saying it's easier for a camel to thread a needle, and a camel can't thread a needle.
00:35:52 I.e., this is how old Russ would say it I don't understand God the way that our cat doesn't understand the internet.
00:35:58 It doesn't matter how much time I try to explain modems and Wi Fi and Facebook and Amazon Prime, the cat will not be able to absorb the information.
00:36:07 Or, as Isaiah puts it, my ways are not your ways.
00:36:10 As far above the, as far, my thoughts are as far above your thoughts as the heavens are above the ground.
00:36:19 Or to enter into heaven, this state of heaven, this ever present contact with God, I am that I am, sent you.
00:36:28 Before Abraham was born, I am an ever present God.
00:36:32 To get into that state of mind, if you're rich and you've got access to pleasures and treasures and sensation, is like try and imagine how hard it would be for a camel to get a bit of Fred.
00:36:43 It's an undulate.
00:36:44 Is it called a camel?
00:36:45 An undulate?
00:36:46 What's those type of animals called?
00:36:47 I think they're called undulates.
00:36:48 Unduents.
00:36:48 Do you mean with the hoof?
00:36:50 Animals with hoofs.
00:36:50 It's got to get up.
00:36:51 It's locked in now.
00:36:53 Why won't you do any research for that?
00:36:54 Because I don't know if that's the sort of thing this is.
00:36:56 Yeah, it's also not my job.
00:36:57 When you're a vet.
00:36:58 All right, you're a vet.
00:37:00 Someone says, what.
00:37:02 Taxonomy of beast is the camel, and you say, Oh, I don't know.
00:37:07 So it's not what's the camel's hoof called?
00:37:09 No, what is a type of what genus of animal?
00:37:13 Yes, what genus type genus?
00:37:16 Genus of animal is a stop.
00:37:19 Oh, I'm just watching.
00:37:20 You're practicing impatience.
00:37:22 Oh, yeah, I'm going to be doing that.
00:37:23 It shows lack of trust in God, not cameless. 1.00
00:37:27 I didn't say that.
00:37:28 Come back, you and I'm angry with you.
00:37:30 I don't like.
00:37:32 Russell, you are good at typing fast on this thing.
00:37:36 I actually have to.
00:37:37 I go out there.
00:37:38 I said, animals with hooves.
00:37:39 What?
00:37:40 My relationship is.
00:37:43 Undulate.
00:37:44 I was right in a way.
00:37:44 I shouldn't have even looked at it.
00:37:45 And would a giraffe fall into that category?
00:37:47 It's an undulate.
00:37:48 Has it got a hoof?
00:37:48 It's an undulate.
00:37:49 Okay, great.
00:37:50 So an undulate don't have hands.
00:37:52 Where does Christ, when you find him at your right hand, that's where you find Christ, that your right hand. 0.99
00:37:57 A camel with its little undulate hoof thing can't hold a needle and thread and go, it's too daft, poor thing. 0.95
00:38:04 Now you must bring your attention to the breath. 0.95
00:38:07 And exactly the way you would have to if you didn't even have.
00:38:09 Imagine how hard it is to bring your attention to the breath when you're in a hot room anyway, Russell.
00:38:13 Oh, my goodness.
00:38:14 Well, now you've got to bring your attention to the breath when there's increasing pressure and without what you consider to be the correct tools.
00:38:21 If you're able to do this, you will enter the kingdom of heaven.
00:38:24 For as Aquinas says, the kingdom of heaven is on the earth, but man sees it not.
00:38:27 Why do we not see it?
00:38:28 Perhaps because it's lacking and shellacked by the bureaucratic kingdom of Baphomet, of Moloch, of Baal, of the false gods, the false gods of our culture, which may as well now be called the nations, the state, the World Bank.
00:38:40 The IMF, NATO, choose your poison, choose your false God.
00:38:45 All of them want to distract you from the divine truth present in you now, intimate connection with a holy, present master who died for our sins and was born again that we may know him for eternal life.
00:38:53 But to enter the kingdom of God for a rich man, if you are Elon Musk and Lord, I pray for him, then it's difficult because you've got all this stuff around you, all this titillating, stimulating, accessible nodes of pleasure.
00:39:07 And especially if you have that, gosh, the wisdom of Solomon.
00:39:11 Led him to the point, well, you know, vanity, vanity, vanity, all this vanity, nothing means now, nothing means anything.
00:39:16 So that came to me, and I said, God, show me if you mean this by giving me further synchronicities over the day.
00:39:23 And then he did, but that's just for you and I to discuss because it ain't easy to get camels into conversations.
00:39:29 But the Lord found a way.
00:39:30 Yeah.
00:39:31 Like, show me, Lord.
00:39:32 Show me, Lord, that I'm with you and that you are with me.
00:39:35 And this is how you should pray.
00:39:36 Yeah.
00:39:37 Show me. 0.94
00:39:38 You know, see, I don't feel, I love the denominations of Eastern Orthodoxy and Catholicism and the SS. PX, you know, yet more esoteric Catholicism that reject Vatican II and their findings and proposals. 0.68
00:39:50 I love Fulton Sheen.
00:39:51 Lord knows I love Martin Luther, both the first one and the second one that was coronated by name and through his civil rights activity.
00:40:00 And I don't think that when our Lord and Savior returns, and he's returning soon, that he's going to say, All right, who's a Catholic?
00:40:05 Or All right, who's Eastern Orthodox?
00:40:07 Or All right, who did it this way?
00:40:08 Who's Pentecostal?
00:40:09 Who's a snake handler?
00:40:10 No.
00:40:11 Did you know me?
00:40:12 Did you know me?
00:40:13 Did you know me in the present?
00:40:15 And how do we know him?
00:40:16 How do we know his followers?
00:40:18 Love one another.
00:40:19 Love one another.
00:40:21 And love your neighbor.
00:40:22 Neighbor, no limited liability.
00:40:24 Everyone is your neighbor.
00:40:25 Everybody.
00:40:26 Doesn't matter their color, doesn't matter anything.
00:40:28 Yeah.
00:40:28 Love them.
00:40:29 Yeah.
00:40:30 And to what degree do we love them?
00:40:31 And how many times do we forgive them?
00:40:32 You forgive them infinitely and you love them, even if it costs you your life.
00:40:36 That's how you'll know that you've, you know, can you drink the cup that I drank?
00:40:40 Will you go where I go?
00:40:43 We have to.
00:40:44 Yeah.
00:40:44 We have no choice.
00:40:45 That's right.
00:40:46 My book, How to Become Christian in Seven Days, is available now.
00:40:50 There's a link in the description.
00:40:51 If you want it for free as an audiobook, you can have that too.
00:40:54 If you're in the UK, it's hard to get.
00:40:56 And for me, that makes it more valuable.
00:40:58 Why would they bother making it hard to get?
00:41:00 Oh, thank you.
00:41:01 Beloved Jesus.
00:41:02 That's wonderful.
00:41:03 Well, we have to wrap up soon.
00:41:05 Do we?
00:41:07 I've barely started.
00:41:08 Oh, well.
00:41:09 Really?
00:41:09 Have I?
00:41:10 You've barely started.
00:41:11 I've got so much to say.
00:41:12 Well, why don't you do you want to touch on this book at all?
00:41:14 I could read some comments and then you actually have something else to do it for.
00:41:18 Why?
00:41:19 He's got a life thing.
00:41:20 Life, With our live Jonathan Otto.
00:41:23 That's correct.
00:41:24 Who makes red lights.
00:41:25 That's correct.
00:41:26 And keeps trying to get everyone to drink their own wee and piddle on everything.
00:41:29 That's right.
00:41:29 But maybe they could get more context from that, from your rumble shows for that because that's.
00:41:34 Yahweh Roe.
00:41:35 You draw the line. 1.00
00:41:36 Yahweh Roe. 1.00
00:41:37 On the Sunday service.
00:41:39 I'll read the comments.
00:41:39 Yahweh Suri.
00:41:40 Find what you want to read.
00:41:42 Maybe we'll touch on this book.
00:41:43 I'll read a couple of nice comments from listeners and then we'll close in the next few minutes.
00:41:47 Gabe Lyons, The Collapse is Here.
00:41:48 The Hopeful Christian's Guide to Restore Faith, Home and Community.
00:41:51 Gabe Lyons.
00:41:52 Because you have been interviewing some really interesting, lovely people, haven't you, Russell?
00:41:55 And that's where all these books are coming from on this.
00:41:57 Well, not this one.
00:41:58 I haven't interviewed G.K. Chester.
00:42:00 No, not that one.
00:42:01 I meant Gabe Lyons.
00:42:02 Or Rene Girard on Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the Earth.
00:42:05 Well, I've been reading what they say.
00:42:07 Yeah.
00:42:08 He, Chesterton, denies sophistry, which means superficial glibness, and then uses the beautiful metaphor becoming a Christian is like saying you've discovered England while sailing on a yacht.
00:42:19 It's a fully populated country.
00:42:20 Everyone's already a grandmother's a Christian.
00:42:22 Everyone, all the people in the comments, they're Christian already.
00:42:25 And we're arriving on the shores and wandering in and not paying attention to the Tesco's and Portsmouth FC's football ground.
00:42:34 I don't know what it's called anymore.
00:42:35 Is it named after a brand?
00:42:36 It used to have some weird name.
00:42:38 No, Portland stuff.
00:42:40 They'll come to me.
00:42:41 Anyway, I'll look it up.
00:42:44 I'll look it up.
00:42:45 Do you love me or not?
00:42:47 How can I go from undulates and camels to Portsmouth?
00:42:51 I love you very much.
00:42:52 Portsmouth FC's football crowd.
00:42:54 They've got that weird sort of crescent moon on there.
00:42:58 Fratton Park.
00:42:59 Fratton Park.
00:43:00 I beat you, chat, Bridgie. 0.74
00:43:02 I win.
00:43:02 Yeah, you are.
00:43:03 I win, Satan.
00:43:04 Fratton Park.
00:43:04 There we go.
00:43:06 Thank you, Lord.
00:43:07 So, what I'm saying is, I've chested and he says that, like, Just believe the Apostles' Creed.
00:43:14 I believe in God the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who is conceived of the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.
00:43:23 On the third day, he rose again from the dead.
00:43:25 He ascended into hell.
00:43:28 On the third day, he rose again from the dead.
00:43:29 He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty.
00:43:31 From there, he will come to judge the living and the dead.
00:43:33 I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, communion of saints, forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting.
00:43:38 Amen.
00:43:38 Wow.
00:43:40 Gerard, though, he says that Christ is the perfect God.
00:43:44 End of all other mythology by eliminating the scapegoat mechanism that emerges when through mimetic desire we desire the thing the other has.
00:43:55 You see that about children all the time.
00:43:57 They'll kill each other over the thing the other has.
00:43:58 Yeah, it's unbelievable.
00:44:00 Could you think of examples?
00:44:01 Today, a squishy.
00:44:03 I don't know.
00:44:04 I don't know.
00:44:05 I mean, my goodness.
00:44:07 But yeah, a squishy. 0.92
00:44:09 A squishy, a squishy. 0.99
00:44:10 My kingdom for a squishy.
00:44:13 Okay.
00:44:14 So, Gerard says that Christ reverses the mythology through the perfect sacrifice.
00:44:20 If you look deeply enough, you will find geometry, you will find biology, you will find quantum physics.
00:44:25 It's all there.
00:44:25 It doesn't matter what language you bring to him.
00:44:28 He is the Alpha and the Omega.
00:44:30 There's our mate Sarah.
00:44:31 Yeah.
00:44:31 So I just want to say this about this.
00:44:35 I think a queer reverend has said that Christ was trans.
00:44:39 This is the thing that's doing the rounds online.
00:44:41 Right.
00:44:42 I think what the queer reverend says is that, and I, by the way, you know, look, our Lord does say in heaven there is no man woman. 0.52
00:44:53 But Genesis does say in his image he created them, man woman he created them.
00:44:58 What I believe above all else is that we're not here to judge each other.
00:45:02 And when you take a position in the cultural war, you are in a kind of consider yourself as being in a pocket or paddock.
00:45:09 They used to use the phrase kettling when doing riot control in the UK, used to go to a lot of protests.
00:45:14 And kettling means like the police have got a strategy for breaking up the crowd and preventing the disturbance becoming the necessary revolution required to restore UK to its rightful owners, the people.
00:45:28 The kettle it is like they take sort of, you know, 10% of the crowd that way, 10% of the crowd that way.
00:45:32 Once they've got you in a controlled environment, they keep you there till you're so bored and you need to mix your rate and everything loses steam, like a kettle, I suppose.
00:45:42 It's a decompression zone.
00:45:45 Yes.
00:45:45 And don't get kettled into the, yes.
00:45:47 Don't get kettled into cultural arguments, is what I would say.
00:45:51 Yes.
00:45:52 He is in here.
00:45:53 He's in here in his word and you have as much access to it as anybody else.
00:45:57 It's sort of, I don't think, he wants his church unified.
00:46:00 Does that mean we will have to become Catholics or Eastern Orthodox? 0.94
00:46:03 If you're Eastern Orthodox, I guess you think it does. 0.93
00:46:04 If you're Catholic, I guess you think it does.
00:46:06 But I believe he wants one church, one body, all of us together.
00:46:11 Yes, he gave Peter the keys.
00:46:13 Yes, he told Peter, feed my sheep.
00:46:14 But he said to John, go live with my mother.
00:46:16 And John's the one that doesn't die.
00:46:18 And John's the one on Patmos.
00:46:20 And John's the one who writes revelations.
00:46:21 And John's the one who writes of the seven churches and the seven candles and tells us there must be a concomitant mystical tradition accompanying the institutional church.
00:46:30 Peace!
00:46:33 Excellent.
00:46:35 Peace, I give to you.
00:46:36 I don't give to you as the world gives to you.
00:46:38 Why don't you tell the story of this?
00:46:40 I will do.
00:46:42 Yes.
00:46:42 Okay.
00:46:42 So we met a wonderful man at the hospital that our son was having surgery at.
00:46:50 Yes.
00:46:50 He was a wonderful doctor and a brilliant and kind man.
00:46:52 Kind man.
00:46:53 And there was a sort of coincidence, I think, when we spoke, synchronicity.
00:46:57 Sorry.
00:46:57 There was a synchronicity.
00:46:59 So it.
00:47:00 Give us a kiss.
00:47:03 There was a synchronicity.
00:47:05 And so it all sort of was one of those relationships that opened up very beautifully, like a part of a book, you know.
00:47:15 And we had just spoken about Wendell Berry the week before.
00:47:18 He had passed away and we talked about him.
00:47:20 We had read something from his Sabbath poems.
00:47:23 And I remember Roland Russell goes, Oh, you're going to read something, but this is a Christian, you know.
00:47:27 And I was like, Well, he was a Christian writer and we should.
00:47:30 Anyway, turns out.
00:47:32 That the man, the gentleman we met at the hospital that was extremely helpful and kind to us, had listened to the Sunday service, as had his friend who has written this book.
00:47:42 And he had called me up in the week after the surgery to check how Herbie was doing.
00:47:46 And he said, My friend, listen to your Sunday service.
00:47:50 And by some chance, like part of his book was sort of going and finding the birthplace of Wendell Berry.
00:47:57 And he wrote this beautiful book.
00:47:58 And him and his wife have been followers of Russell for, or his wife maybe, or his wife.
00:48:04 She's been praying for me 12 years.
00:48:05 She's been praying for 12 years, and there was this beautiful story that came out of it.
00:48:08 We went back for the checkup at the hospital the other day, and all is well.
00:48:12 Thank you very much for that.
00:48:14 And the new friend, acquaintance, and lovely, lovely gentleman that came to meet us to say hello to us in person, because this had just been on the phone before, gave us this book and said, This is written by my friend who I mentioned to you on the phone.
00:48:29 Hunter Lambeth.
00:48:30 Yeah.
00:48:30 And can you give a bit of a brief of the book?
00:48:32 Because you've been reading it.
00:48:33 Yes.
00:48:34 It's a book called The Good Way and it's inspired by the period of COVID 19, the global pandemic era, where their author, Hunter Lambeth, advocates for us slowing down and walking, living life at three miles an hour like our.
00:48:47 Perambulating, wandering God.
00:48:50 Our God who walked everywhere, who never felt the need to rush for nobody.
00:48:53 Even when he was flipping tables or being nailed to cross, he did it at the pace of God.
00:48:58 He did it at the perfect pace because he is outside of time.
00:49:00 He is eternal.
00:49:01 So he doesn't need to rush or slow down or do nothing.
00:49:04 But anyway, this is a suggestion that the COVID era could have been, as well as, I mean, my diagnosis is that COVID was a time where we learned that there is a set of global interests that transcend government that are preparing for total control.
00:49:18 That's my.
00:49:18 But unalamed, and this is a rather nice analysis, and I also agree, having to agree with that it was an opportunity for us to recognize that we'd been captured and we're not at a pace or good by this counterfeit system of total control.
00:49:33 Seems enjoyable from what you've read me so far.
00:49:35 Yeah, he's saying slow down, he's saying.
00:49:36 Yeah.
00:49:37 I mean, I remember it as a very slow time, certainly.
00:49:39 You liked it?
00:49:41 Well, yeah, I mean, I didn't obviously like anyone suffering.
00:49:43 You laughed and laughed as those people choked to death.
00:49:46 No, I didn't.
00:49:47 I was very, very sensitive to that.
00:49:49 But I will say that I was skeptical of the whole thing.
00:49:52 Almost on day one.
00:49:53 Almost day one.
00:49:53 You're like, what's going on?
00:49:54 It says this isn't normal.
00:49:56 This isn't right.
00:49:57 And then I gave you some research that I had done very quickly.
00:50:01 And you even said, no, I'm not sure about that.
00:50:04 That can't be right.
00:50:04 I was like, I think it is.
00:50:06 You were very busy at the vets, but you took some time off to step into epidemiology.
00:50:11 That's right.
00:50:12 Exactly.
00:50:12 Anyway, so I like what he says at the end.
00:50:15 Do you want to read this poem?
00:50:16 I'll read that at the end.
00:50:17 May I read a couple of comments first?
00:50:18 And then we'll.
00:50:19 Can we close on this?
00:50:20 Yeah.
00:50:20 Okay.
00:50:21 Let me see how long this is.
00:50:22 This is perfect for an end to go out on, if that's okay.
00:50:25 Do you have anything more you want to say?
00:50:27 You know me.
00:50:28 Oh, well, okay.
00:50:29 Well, I'm going to have to end it because you're ready to move on to your next part of the day.
00:50:33 Yeah.
00:50:33 Yeah.
00:50:34 Do you love me or not?
00:50:35 Yes.
00:50:37 Yes, I do love you.
00:50:38 You're very funny.
00:50:40 At melon229, thank you for the helpful discussion on prayer.
00:50:44 Last week, we talked about prayer and emergency prayer and the prayer when you're feeling desperate, but also the kind of daily, what did you say?
00:50:53 More like a continual way of life.
00:50:56 You just did an orange strap along the caravan.
00:50:58 It's gone again.
00:50:59 It's gone.
00:51:00 I'll be praying for little Herbie, for Laura's heart that must be stretched in a million directions at the moment.
00:51:05 Yes.
00:51:06 For you, Russell, and for the testing weeks ahead.
00:51:08 You are both such an encouragement and a light and doing an amazing job at normalizing faith in this generation.
00:51:14 P.S. Great observations on The Truman Show, which happens to be my favorite film.
00:51:17 Quite a few people said my favorite film, actually.
00:51:20 At SeagullGP, love this and touched by your authenticity.
00:51:23 This really helps me and gives me hope.
00:51:25 That was just on the nature of the episode last week.
00:51:28 At RainSunshine522.
00:51:31 I'm praying for you, Russell, Laura, and your beautiful family.
00:51:34 You're walking through the valley of the shadow of death.
00:51:37 Keep walking in faith.
00:51:38 You are not alone.
00:51:40 And that is somebody from Australia.
00:51:42 Thanks.
00:51:43 They put a little flag at the end.
00:51:45 I'm going to read this, Patient Trust.
00:51:48 And do you know anything of the author of this, Pierre Tailhart Desjardins SG?
00:51:56 No.
00:51:56 No.
00:51:56 But this is from the book that we've just been discussing by Hunter Lambeth, In Search of the Good Way, The Quest to Live Life at the Pace of Christ.
00:52:05 Beautiful, beautiful book, Patient Trust.
00:52:09 Above all, trust in the slow work of God.
00:52:13 We are quite naturally impatient in everything to reach the end without delay.
00:52:18 We should like to skip the intermediate stages.
00:52:22 We are impatient of being on the way to something unknown, something new.
00:52:27 And yet, it is the law of all progress that it is made by passing through some stages of instability and that it may take a very long time.
00:52:36 And so, I think it is with you.
00:52:38 Your ideas mature gradually.
00:52:40 Let them grow.
00:52:41 Let them shape themselves without undue haste.
00:52:45 Don't try to force them on, as though you could be today what time, that is to say, grace and circumstances acting on your own goodwill, will make of you tomorrow.
00:52:55 Only God could say what this new spirit gradually forming within you will be.
00:53:00 Give our Lord the benefit of believing that his hand is leading you, and accept the anxiety of feeling yourself in suspense and incomplete.
00:53:12 Beautiful.
00:53:12 It's really beautiful.
00:53:14 I don't like the old suspense.
00:53:16 No, suspense is hard, but you know, yeah, suspense is hard.
00:53:22 Do you want to pray for us to end this?
00:53:24 Yes.
00:53:27 So, like this.
00:53:28 This is the first thing he's included is from Jeremiah 6 16, and it's lovely.
00:53:32 I'm going to read this and then I'll go into a prayer.
00:53:35 Stand at the crossroads and look.
00:53:37 Ask for the ancient paths.
00:53:39 Ask where the good way is and walk in it.
00:53:42 And you will find rest for your souls.
00:53:44 Jeremiah 6 16.
00:53:46 That's pretty lovely, isn't it?
00:53:47 That's after Jeremiah is laughing to tell people to really step up.
00:53:52 He's had enough of this lot.
00:53:53 Yeah.
00:53:54 And he's really been through it as Jeremiah.
00:53:57 Why won't they listen?
00:53:59 Stand at the crossroads.
00:54:00 Rest for yourselves.
00:54:01 We were not walking.
00:54:02 I pointed watchmen over you.
00:54:05 Interdimensional beings, if you carry on another line.
00:54:08 Of course, the beginning.
00:54:09 Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.
00:54:13 Before you were born, I set you apart.
00:54:16 I appointed you as a prophet for the nations.
00:54:18 You know, I read another translation of Jeremiah 1 5 the other day.
00:54:22 He said, Before I formed you in the belly.
00:54:24 And it was interesting because it made me think when Christ came to me, it was in the belly.
00:54:30 So it's not like I uterally formed in the belly of my mother.
00:54:34 No, it was my own belly.
00:54:37 I felt him go, Oh, yeah.
00:54:39 Visceral.
00:54:40 Not through the intellect, not through the mind, not through the vocabulary, but through the gut.
00:54:45 That's right.
00:54:46 That's where you've got to watch them vaccines, baby, gut health, and cerebral health.
00:54:50 I'm going to move into a prayer now, and then we're going to close the show if that's okay today.
00:54:54 But let's take a moment.
00:55:02 Hey, dear God, thank you for being with us today.
00:55:07 Thank you for the sound of our children playing and friends.
00:55:12 Thank you for the bird that's really chirping, I can hear, and the chickens that I can hear in the background.
00:55:19 And thank you for the lessons that we can learn from all the people that we meet, whether it's when we're in hospitals or veterinary clinics or whether it's strangers in the street, the things that we can take from encounters with strangers that really they can show us things about ourselves and guide us in many ways in what we need to know, whether that's bringing something up.
00:55:46 And I'm talking about the feeling you can get, whether it's an impatience at something, like it says.
00:55:51 And impatience to be where you think you need to be, or whether it's wanting something that you don't have, as we've mentioned today, that feeling of like worldly possessions or whatever it is.
00:56:03 Just show us, God, what we're meant to show us, God, how we're meant to live and how we're meant to respect that slowness and that pace and that the pace of your living, Jesus Christ, how you lived, as it says in that book and in the Jeremiah passage there.
00:56:19 You know, I pray for rest for everybody's souls, for our souls.
00:56:25 I can pray personally for the rest for my own soul so that I can be a great mother and a wife.
00:56:31 And so I take care of myself when I can remember to.
00:56:34 It's hard, it's hard because I feel like.
00:56:36 I'm busy and I feel anxious sometimes, and I but I do know that rest is important.
00:56:43 And as we speak today, as on this Sabbath day, day of rest, thank you for giving us that, God.
00:56:51 Thank you, Russell.
00:56:54 Amen.
00:56:55 Oh, amen.
00:56:57 Thank you.