In this episode of Stay Free with Russell Brand and What a Day It Is To Be Free, host Russell Brand sits down with Tucker Carlson, host of the Fox News Channel's Tucker Carlson Live show, to discuss Tucker's controversial interview with Vladimir Putin and the impact it has had on the way Western media views on Russia and its influence in the world, as well as the growing threat to free speech, and how the censorship industrial complex is eroding our ability to think and speak freely. Russell and Tucker discuss all of this, and much more, on this week's episode of the show hosted by Russell Brand. Stay free, and remember: it's a day to be free. You're not here to be a victim of censorship, you're here to change the narrative. You are here to create a better world, and that's what we should all be fighting for. - Russell Brand Stay Free, and What A Day it Is to Be Free. In this video, you'll get to see the future - Awakening Wonders. You're going to see The Future, and Awakening Wonders, and you're gonna see the Awakening Wonders! - I'm looking for the CEO, and in this video you'll see the Future, Awakening Wonders - You're Going to See The Future. Thanks for joining me today for Staying Free, I'm Looking For the CEO. I'm Russell Brand, and what a day it is to be Free! - Yanny Money, Yannick Meegananon, JGwyn Wilde, Jen Psaki, J Gwynn Wilde Wilde Wilde, and Gwynne, and the rest of the Awakened Wonder, and The Red Wing Crew - What's a Day it's Alyssa, and I'm Working On It? - This is the epochal moment where the global legacy media system is being fundamentally challenged, and no longer can reign in or contain control of the narrative? - No longer can they reign in/ contain control over the narrative no longer? . - Jen Psakis, You You You Brought to you by Pfizer, You're Looking For The CEO? - You You? You're gonna be the CEO? , You'll Brought To You, You'll Be The CEO, You Meant to Be the CEO Looking for The CEO - So I'm Gonna See the Future? , I'm Achieving The CEO Looking For That?
00:02:26.000So I'm looking for the CEO Looking for the CEO
00:02:30.000Looking for the CEO In this video, you're going to see the future.
00:02:44.000Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand and what a day it is to be free.
00:02:49.000For surely this is the epochal moment where the global legacy media system is being fundamentally challenged.
00:02:56.000No longer can they reign in or contain control of the narrative.
00:03:00.000For The world's biggest online journalist and the leader of the globalist opposition, if you want to see it in such reductive terms, are meeting for a conversation.
00:03:11.000I'm minded of the Muhammad Ali phrase, I ain't got no beef with a Viet Cong.
00:03:16.000What exactly is your individual personal beef with Russia?
00:03:20.000And as Tucker says in his soon-to-be-apocal trailer, you might watch Vladimir Putin talking to Tucker Carlson and go, I don't like this guy.
00:03:32.000In fact, I'd like to fund a war against Russia.
00:03:36.000In fact, I'd like to ensure that NATO are able to be perpetuated going forward uninterrupted.
00:03:43.000In fact, I'd like to have my children and myself conscripted into an army in order to fight against the Russian military machine.
00:03:52.000Or you might watch him go, hang on a minute, Sounds to me like NATO knew that they were provoking Russia into a conflict and continued anyway.
00:04:01.000You might watch it and decide, hey, hang on a minute, what is this Ukrainian democracy that we're fighting for?
00:04:08.000A democracy where there's only one set of media that's allowed.
00:04:12.000A democracy where elections are cancelled.
00:04:15.000But what is really exposed to me is the nature of propaganda.
00:04:25.000If you're in the Rumble chat, welcome guys like Texas Charles, and Johnny Freedom, and Captain Chaos, and Turtle Head, and SheBitesALot, and AGP78, and our awakened wonders over here on Locals like Sensitive Hearts, and J Gwynn Wilde, and The Red.
00:04:42.000If you're watching us on YouTube, We're gonna be with you there for about 15 minutes.
00:04:46.000But of course, as you know, YouTube now facilitates legacy media organisations.
00:04:53.000It favours them in the way that it selects and promotes content.
00:04:56.000It uses the WHO's guidelines to inform its own community guidelines.
00:05:01.000In essence, YouTube and their parent company are part of the information management project that we're experiencing now en masse.
00:05:09.000Whether it's hate speech laws in Ireland, whether it's the panic that this Tucker Putin interview is generating, or whether it's the advancing censorship industrial complex that's taking place all over the world.
00:05:23.000And we are going to be discussing all of it because I've got even the platform rumble.
00:05:52.000I'll voice note Tucker while we are on the show.
00:05:56.000We're going to be talking a little bit about Elon and the hate speech laws.
00:05:58.000We're going to be talking a little bit about the current president of the United States, Joe Biden, though it baffles me that that is still an actual verifiable reality.
00:06:08.000And we are going to be reading your comments because your free speech is absolutely vital.
00:06:13.000Should get Oliver Stone on says Shooter928.
00:07:12.000Because free speech is a fundamental principle, used to be a principle of what was once known as the left before it Descended into, let's face it, authoritarianism.
00:09:28.000I don't care what he says, I'm on board!
00:09:30.000I'm gonna have to watch and go, right, this guy used to be in the KGB, he's a world leader, I'm sure there's all sorts of Tyranny and hypocrisy and control going on in Russia.
00:09:39.000But what he said, because you know what he's going to say, he's going to say this.
00:09:45.000I don't think NATO should be expanding into former Soviet territories.
00:09:48.000We want some autonomy in the Donbass region for Russian nativists and Crimea's off the table.
00:09:55.000And with that deal, because they already had a treaty before Boris Johnson, UK Prime Minister, went over there and scuppered it at the behest of Joe Biden.
00:10:03.000There was a treaty already and we don't talk about that.
00:10:06.000Why don't we talk about that in the legacy media?
00:10:08.000Because it's not part of the agenda they want to elevate and escalate because they are obviously partnering the military-industrial complex who benefit from this war.
00:10:18.000Even your so-called border bill includes 60 billion dollars of further aid to continue to fund this war.
00:10:28.000It's okay that Tucker Carlson conducts this conversation.
00:10:32.000It's okay that we decide for ourselves whether or not we agree with what Putin is saying and it seems that it's a pretty significant issue and warrants debate, conversation, transparency and clarity.
00:10:47.000The second part Tucker's video there talks about the effects of the war on the population using an interesting phrase depopulation.
00:10:55.000I know you guys have got some views on that and we have got an astonishing piece of content coming up on euthanasia in Canada and some might think with what's going on in Canada that euthanasia would be a pleasant and pleasing and favorable option but where they're taking these euthanasia laws is astonishing.
00:11:11.000We'll be covering that The war in Ukraine is a human disaster.
00:11:22.000It's left hundreds of thousands of people dead, an entire generation of young Ukrainians, and it's depopulated the largest country in Europe.
00:11:31.000But the long-term effects are even more profound.
00:11:34.000This war has utterly reshaped the global military and trade alliances.
00:11:39.000And the sanctions that followed have as well.
00:11:42.000And in total, they have upended the world economy.
00:11:45.000The post-World War II economic order, the system that guaranteed prosperity in the West for more than 80 years, is coming apart very fast, and along with it, the dominance of the U.S.
00:11:58.000They are history-altering developments.
00:12:02.000I suppose what Tucker's proposing there is that a conversation around epochal, global, geopolitical events that may define political, social and cultural life for generations to come Warrant's Conversation.
00:12:19.000Are you confident that CNN, the BBC, MSNBC, the New York Times, the Trusted News Initiative, and look into that organisation, are you confident that their version of events has your best interests at heart?
00:12:33.000Based on what you've seen in the global media machine, are you convinced that what they care about is the quality of your life?
00:13:03.000Seeing a hell of a lot of control, not seeing all of the love that one might expect to see if what we're expected to believe is that the globalist establishment is about care and concern.
00:13:14.000The next part of this conversation is about propaganda.
00:13:17.000What you're going to hear a lot of is, oh Tucker's a propagandist, he's a Putin apologist, he's giving Putin a platform.
00:13:23.000All of that stuff that people like to try out in situations like this.
00:13:26.000I would remind you Vladimir Zelensky went to the Golden Globes and thanked JP Morgan.
00:13:34.000Went to the Golden Globes and thanked BlackRock in post.
00:13:38.000Thank you BlackRock for your investment.
00:13:40.000Now, I'm not saying that the Ukrainian people oughtn't be protected.
00:13:45.000Of course the waste of Ukrainian lives is one of the biggest consequences.
00:13:50.000Biggest stains upon our global character generated by this conflict.
00:13:54.000But when you're talking about propaganda, when you see Sean Penn giving an Oscar, I mean, what's being propagandised is the ongoing defence of a seemingly unwinnable military conflict against an unassailable conflict that ought be curtailed at the earliest possible opportunity through diplomacy.
00:14:49.000That's why if you're watching this on YouTube, we want you to click the link in the description and join us in the freedom speech, free speech stream that is Rumble.
00:14:58.000Not so that we can engage in hateful language or needless cruelty or senselessness.
00:15:04.000On the contrary, I believe in your individual autonomy.
00:15:07.000I believe in your right to be who you are.
00:15:09.000I believe in your right to access information and determine and decide the truth for yourself.
00:15:15.000And that is the very thing that terrifies them.
00:15:17.000And that's why they're going into meltdown right now.
00:15:21.000For example, since the day the war in Ukraine began, American media outlets have spoken to scores of people from Ukraine, and they have done scores of interviews with Ukrainian President Zelensky.
00:15:33.000We ourselves have put in a request for an interview with Zelensky, and we hope he accepts.
00:15:37.000But the interviews he's already done in the United States are not traditional interviews.
00:15:41.000They are fawning pep sessions specifically designed to amplify Zelensky's demand that the U.S.
00:15:46.000enter more deeply into a war in Eastern Europe and pay for it.
00:16:40.000Ah, now listen, we had a conversation with Tucker Carlson, actually, that's currently exclusively available to our Awakened Wonders over on Locals.
00:16:48.000It's worth joining because when we have these conversations live, you can put questions to people like Vandana Shiva, Glenn Greenwald, Michael Schellenberger.
00:16:56.000Let's have a look at a short excerpt from that conversation that's available.
00:16:59.000If you're watching us now on Locals, you Awakened Wonders, you can watch it now, but you're gonna have to stay with us to see us Break down the legacy media hysteria that's following this significant event.
00:17:10.000Because this is what the censorship industrial complex exists for.
00:17:14.000To shut down the possibility that you gain access to sufficient information to decide for yourself whether or not geopolitical events really do advance your condition.
00:18:21.000This is, you know, like, like, so you're saying that it's a good point in the chat.
00:18:26.000Have other legacy media organizations requested conversations with Putin?
00:18:30.000It's entirely possible that they have, but look at the nature of the reporting on this war.
00:18:35.000We've got some fantastic footage that we'll show you of a conversation that Putin had with the legacy media a little while ago, and he brought up January 6th.
00:18:43.000He said, hey, January 6th was interesting, the way your legacy media framed that.
00:18:49.000Now, if you're watching us on YouTube, we're going to just be available for a couple of minutes.
00:18:53.000In fact, I'll just show you a little more.
00:18:55.000I'm going to just show you What Tucker Carlson says about freedom of speech and Putin's potential reasons for entering this war, which could include NATO encroachment on former Soviet territory, which is a breach of an agreement between Gorbachev and Reagan.
00:20:06.000This is about saying, wait a minute, our legacy media is a propagandist machine that's about shutting down dissent, imposing censorship, and amplifying the messaging of the powerful to erode your personal freedom, our personal freedom, even our freedom to disagree with one another, which is the greatest freedom we have and is necessary in anything remotely resembling a democracy.
00:20:28.000Most Americans have no idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what his goals are now.
00:20:55.000Almost three years ago, the Biden administration illegally spied on our text messages and then leaked the contents to their servants in the news media.
00:21:02.000Amazing, they illegally spied on them.
00:21:06.000This is how, this is how the machine functions.
00:21:13.000This is the machine that we are dealing with.
00:21:15.000This is the machine that will do anything it can to shut down dissenting voices and then claims it's doing it for your benefit.
00:21:22.000Thank God we're able to freely stream here on this platform where free speech is a sacred right and certainly a legal right and thank God we have partners like Truly Office who support our content.
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00:22:22.000We're leaving and we've got so much more content to convey to you.
00:22:26.000We're going to do the rest of this analysis.
00:22:27.000We're going to look at Jen Psaki's reaction to this.
00:22:29.000We're going to look at the legacy media meltdown that is currently ensuing as they grapple to find reasons why this interview shouldn't take place.
00:22:37.000Calling Tucker a traitor instead of focusing on what's happening.
00:22:42.000What if we condemn the source of the information?
00:22:44.000It's astonishing and brilliant to watch this unravel.
00:22:48.000We are in a race for freedom of speech.
00:22:50.000Click the link in the description if you're on YouTube.
00:23:24.000All we're really asking, it's pretty basic, is would you like to hear the perspectives of Vladimir Putin before endorsing a $188 billion bill that's calling itself a border bill when $60 billion of that funding is going to the Ukraine, when you know Ukraine's democracy is pretty dubious.
00:23:44.000They're cancelling elections even though Joe Biden won't debate.
00:23:47.000Nobody won't turn up in his own primaries even though we're censoring and shutting down information and using the CIA to prime media organisations to ignore true stories about laptops that are dubious.
00:24:00.000That's a funny post in the Awaken Wonder chat right there.
00:25:01.000It's certainly one way to characterize a major military invasion.
00:25:05.000Even that first point of saying using the word border dispute or the term border dispute is disingenuous and misleading.
00:25:13.000That's an astonishing approach because In the legacy media analysis of this conflict, you won't hear any talk of the 2014 coup.
00:25:21.000You won't hear any talk of NATO's role in provoking Russia.
00:25:26.000Even Jens Stoltenberg, as you know, said that Putin made it explicitly clear that expansion into former Soviet territory or an attempt to get Ukraine to join NATO would be met with military action.
00:25:38.000You can say that's wrong all day long.
00:25:40.000Then you should probably have a look at whether or not you feel it's possible for Ukraine to win a war against Russia, whether or not you want to fund it through your tax dollars, whether or not you want conscription in the country you live in, and whether or not you can rely on the legacy media who decry what they call propaganda while simultaneously propagandizing an issue.
00:26:01.000Of course, Carlson is now just another far-right conspiracy peddler with a show on the internet.
00:26:05.000He's no longer on Fox, as we all know.
00:26:37.000Now that Tucker's not on Fox, she attempts to use that as a type of slur, as if Fox were a badge of honor, an endorsement, a kind of blue chip organization.
00:26:56.000But his position on Putin and Russia's invasion of Ukraine, one that would have been That's a really interesting point, that Jen Psaki is complaining that the Republican Party are no longer hawkish enough.
00:27:13.000Ten years ago, we had wars for any reason!
00:27:16.000Ten years ago, it didn't matter if you had weapons of mass destruction or not.
00:27:21.000Astonishing, yeah, and someone's pointed out, stay relevant.
00:27:24.000That is, like, as if Tucker Carlson needs to stay relevant.
00:27:28.000We're doing a news show on him doing a news show.
00:27:31.000What he's doing is manipulating, altering, shifting the way that news is conveyed.
00:27:37.000In a way, I'm really glad they said that, because that's one of the attacks they use on me.
00:27:40.000Russell Brown, I always feel a bit hurt by that, like, oh god, am I trying to stay relevant?
00:27:44.000Is that I don't know what I'm trying to do, but actually I realize what I'm trying to do is participate in truth.
00:27:48.000What I'm actually trying to do is participate as best I can in the elevation of our collective consciousness to create conditions where we can freely disagree with one another.
00:27:57.000We've become now the majority view within the party because Republicans in Congress have been delaying additional aid to Ukraine since October.
00:28:07.000Today, House Republican leadership rejected any possibility of voting for the Senate's bipartisan compromise bill that would have provided funding for Ukraine, Israel, and the U.S.
00:28:55.000That's how that $118 billion is carved out.
00:28:58.000The vast majority of it is going to Ukraine and significant sums are distributed elsewhere.
00:29:07.000We can go back to the Tucker breakdown if you want to, or we could have a look at this interview between NBC and Vladimir Putin.
00:29:18.000There was a very famous book by Edward Said called Orientalism, I think, use it or tell me in the chat, where he said the problem between the West and the East is that people from the West imagine That our perspective on reality is the only available perspective on reality and if you're from the Islamic world or if you're from China or whatever you have a completely different understanding of reality, your own trajectory, your own philosophy, your own teleology and your own appreciation and understanding of what the world might look like.
00:29:45.000Russia may have their own plans, Russia may have their own agenda but I don't Personally think, or at least I've not seen anything that makes me fear that Russian expansionism might include current NATO countries.
00:29:58.000In fact, I'll be honest with you, I don't actually know in a post-Cold War era what NATO is supposed to be doing.
00:30:04.000And one of the things we're getting schooled on at the moment is you're not in a post-war era anymore, you're in a pre-war era.
00:30:23.000And bear in mind this, when we're talking about censorship, when we're talking about free speech, when we're talking about the right to journalistic free expression, Julian Assange is still in prison in Belmarsh in the UK with He's not at a trial.
00:30:37.000He's there under the Espionage Act in the United States while he's in the UK waiting to be extradited.
00:30:42.000There's a hearing for that on February the 20th and the 21st and we should all support Julian Assange because what Julian Assange did was embarrass the globalist machine.
00:30:51.000Whether that was Hillary Clinton, that's why you won't get a squeeze out of the Democrat party, or the military-industrial complex.
00:31:17.000Did you order Alexei Navalny's assassination?
00:31:23.000The CIA order the assassination of Julian Assange.
00:31:27.000Remember when Trump said, do you think we don't do stuff like that?
00:31:31.000That's the kind of rhetoric that Trump deployed that made him accessible and popular.
00:31:36.000Because as Chappelle brilliantly and famously said, we realized and recognized, oh no, he's telling us what we've always thought is going on, is going on.
00:31:46.000And now all of us that use independent media, that participate in these kind of conversations are Of course not.
00:31:52.000the game play out in real time. Oh no, they're terrified.
00:31:55.000We're going to see Putin and be able to listen and assess using our individual intelligence,
00:32:00.000or wherever we may be on that spectrum to determine for ourselves what's in our own best
00:32:05.000interest, whether or not we support the perpetuation and ongoing funding of this war,
00:32:11.000and who is suffering more than the Ukrainian people as a result of it.
00:32:16.000Of course not. We don't have this kind of habit of assassinating anybody. That's one.
00:32:38.000Number two is, I want to ask you, did you order the assassination of the woman who walked into the Congress and who was shot and killed by a policeman?
00:32:47.000Do you know that 450 individuals were arrested after entering the Congress and they didn't go there to steal a laptop?
00:33:58.000Because she tells stories about true corruption, true hypocrisy, the true machinations and agenda of the powerful, rather than simply propagating the lies of the elites.
00:34:44.000Can we see the bit where we talked about, like, because part of what Tucker is being accused of is presenting Vladimir Putin with an opportunity to propagandise, but let's just, can we see some of the times that Zelensky, and again, I'm like, I think the Ukrainian people should, look at this!
00:35:00.000Time magazine, Golden Globes 2023, thanking BlackRock, there he is with Jessica Chastain, there he is with Ben Stiller, He's on Netflix, there he's getting an Oscar of Sean Penn.
00:35:12.000Like, what that is, like Tucker said, normalising him and presenting him like a brand.
00:35:17.000This is not an attack on Zelensky, he's doing his best, but I would say that Ukraine are being exploited by globalist military institutions in order to perpetuate a profitable war that likely has as its end point Creating a kind of Ukraine that could be used as a military base on the edge of Russia.
00:35:39.000I mean like Zelensky was already doing a post-war deal with BlackRock to turn it into a kind of pilot digital space.
00:35:45.000We did a really good presentation on that a little while ago.
00:36:51.000Anyone can watch the entire thing, shot live to tape and unedited, on our website, TuckerCarlson.com.
00:36:58.000Elon Musk, to his great credit, has promised not to suppress or block this interview once we post it on his platform, X, and we're grateful for that.
00:37:07.000The Elon Musk-Tucker Carlson axis is a terrifying thing for the legacy media and the globalist establishment.
00:37:15.000Between them, they get access to interviews like this one between Putin and Tucker Carlson,
00:37:20.000and through Musk and his determination to keep X a free speech space,
00:37:25.000now have the ability to broadcast unedited, which I think is a really bold move,
00:38:17.000What you're going to get from Tucker Carlson is an American patriot's perspective on a conflict that could potentially be ended a lot more easily if the agenda were not to continue it but to reach a diplomatic peaceful solution that will be beneficial to everybody significantly and perhaps even mostly Ukrainian people.
00:38:42.000will certainly do their best to censor this video on other less principled platforms because that's what they do.
00:38:48.000They are afraid of information they can't control.
00:38:51.000OdiumLXV points out that Russia today is on rumble.
00:38:57.000Rumble can't be on in France anymore because France in their mad Macron globalist new era doesn't want free speech.
00:39:05.000That's why I'm always saying to you lot be nice to each other in the chat because if people look at the Rumble chat and everyone's just going freedom I don't care what religion you are I believe in your freedom I don't care what your identity is I believe in your freedom they'll go oh no these people are amazing they're the future when they look in there and it's like I hate people who read that book or wear that hat or that shawl and it's like see it's full of hate speech.
00:40:34.000That's why stay free is our catchphrase, because we don't care whether you are pro-Trump or pro-anybody.
00:40:39.000We care about your individual right to express yourself, Both democratically and spiritually and logically and irrationally and emotionally and mentally, we believe in your freedom.
00:42:24.000Here's Joe Biden claiming that he can look inside Vladimir Putin's brain by using his own brain when I would doubt whether or not he has the ability to actually use his own brain.
00:42:33.000Now I don't like being mean about Joe Biden because, again, I want to be loving and I want to look for the beauty in all things and I don't think that Joe Biden is very well and I don't think he should be Run in the country?
00:42:45.000I don't think he should be running a half marathon.
00:42:46.000I don't think he should be running his mouth.
00:42:48.000I don't think Joe Biden should be doing anything other than relaxing.
00:42:53.000Relaxing and enjoying his dotage, but here he is making some astonishing claims.
00:43:00.000This is a little while ago and you actually you can witness the deterioration of Biden when you look at footage of him from just a couple of years ago he's a lot more cogent here and it sort of shows you how right and in fact after this why don't we look at the footage of him from like a day ago you know if we got that that bit of him like he looks proper out of control let's have a look at him here he he's quite cogent for Biden here.
00:43:21.000I was criticized when I was last with Putin and we were in his office alone And he wanted to show me his magnificent office, and it was.
00:44:15.000Is this the kind of assessment that you want to march to war on the back of?
00:44:19.000And here, remember, because this is a conflict that's been escalating for some time, or certainly a dynamic that's existed for a long time, here's George W. Bush also talking about that.
00:44:29.000We're perilously close, tantalisingly close to 30,000 on Rumble.
00:44:33.000It's worth putting a post out on X, get a few more people over here.
00:44:36.000Loads of you watching in the Awaken Wonder chat now.
00:44:39.000Let's have a look at George W. Bush talking about the soul as well.
00:44:44.000It's interesting to hear this kind of discourse included because guess what?
00:44:48.000Precisely the direction that I suggest we head in is a spiritual awakening.
00:44:53.000And a spiritual awakening is more likely when we're well-informed.
00:44:57.000And a spiritual awakening and a well-informed population is not what the globalist establishment wants.
00:45:03.000It's important to understand, not to threaten, to understand where the other person's coming from.
00:45:43.000Have we got the bit where Joe Biden's in deterioration?
00:45:46.000Yeah this is an extraordinary moment like this is again recent this is Joe Biden just a couple of days ago responding I think to sort of maybe Trump not backing that bill 60 billion dollars of which is going to perpetuate this war which I think we're about to get a very different perspective on.
00:46:03.000We're about to hear things about this war that might make us a shade less compliant and that seems to be causing a little bit of consternation.
00:46:45.000I mean, what's going... This is... Like, we spoke to, and you'll love this conversation between us and Vivek, I spoke to Vivek Ramaswamy and I said, do you think Biden is actually going to run?
00:46:58.000Some people think that Trump's not going to be in a position to run.
00:47:01.000But whatever happens, we cannot envisage, can we?
00:47:05.000As a global population on the precipice of endless forever wars, fully immersive in every direction, that the leader of the so-called free world is this sweet, adorable, but plainly exploited individual.
00:47:34.000And if you are interested in freeing Assange, let's support him on the 20th and 21st.
00:47:37.000And we're going to do a special live show from outside that hearing to support Julian and his campaign for justice, freedom, journalism, a campaign that's getting a real boost today when we've heard that we're getting a Putin interview.
00:49:09.000But he seemed very excited to be talking to Trump.
00:49:10.000And on that show, Trump revealed that he wants to debate Joe Biden.
00:49:16.000And here's Joe Biden's response to that.
00:49:18.000Now, Those of you that are familiar with Taoism, Zen Buddhism, or any koan, a mental device used to create an oxymoronic and paradoxical shift in your consciousness by presenting you with two opposing ideas simultaneously, cracking the shell of the ego and revealing the yoke of the awakened soul, will enjoy this.
00:49:39.000Donald Trump is ready to debate you right now, do you accept?
00:49:46.000If I were him, I'd want to debate me too.
00:49:48.000Trump wants to debate you immediately.
00:49:51.000If I were him, I'd want to debate me too.
00:49:53.000If I were him, I'd want to debate me too.
00:49:57.000Trump wants to debate you immediately.
00:50:00.000If I were him, I'd want to debate me too.
00:50:12.000If I were him, I'd want to debate me too.
00:50:16.000Now, you could take this in a number of directions.
00:50:20.000Would it be Schopenhauer that would say that if you'd lived the experiences of another individual, then you would of course be them if the conditions were the same?
00:50:26.000Certainly, Winston Churchill here in this book, Essays and Adventures, said he would live his life the same way again if given the same opportunities, obviously.
00:50:36.000But if you had foreknowledge of your future life, then you would perhaps make different decisions and live a different life.
00:50:42.000Nietzsche says that you should live every moment of your life in the spirit that if you had to live that moment for all eternity, you would not regret it.
00:50:50.000Now when Joe Biden says, if I were him, I'd want to debate me too, what does he mean?
00:51:01.000It doesn't, I don't think it means anything.
00:51:03.000Now let's have a look at what he's responding to there.
00:51:05.000It is Donald Trump and he sounds unusual over there on Dan Bongino's show.
00:51:10.000If I were him he wouldn't have to vote.
00:51:12.000Yeah it's an extraordinary, it doesn't make sense.
00:51:14.000Someone says it's narcissistic at best.
00:51:16.000Now remember if you're over here watching this right now give us a thumbs up, give us a like and subscribe to our channel please and consider becoming an Awake and Wonder Where you can see our Whitney Webb interview in full.
00:51:26.000You can see our Tucker Carlson interview in full.
00:51:28.000It's the only place that you can access it in full.
00:51:57.000And, you know, there just seems to be a loyalty in both parties.
00:52:01.000And maybe, you know, sometimes you should be there.
00:52:03.000But when a guy can't answer a question and when he doesn't do the Super Bowl, which would be a great opportunity, actually, this would be a good time.
00:52:11.000You don't always have to do them, but this would be a good time not to, you know, to stay to stay right in somebody's face, especially when you have those kind of numbers.
00:53:17.000Now because Elon Musk's commitment to free speech over there on X, because Tucker Carlson's over there doing that Putin interview, because of Rumble, our home, and their support of me when I was under attack from the legacy of media, we now have the ability to dissent.
00:53:32.000We now have the ability to fight back.
00:53:38.000That is why again and again I tell you This is a time to move yourself way beyond any ideological or cultural-based rhetoric or invective over there in the chat.
00:53:50.000This is the time to go, I don't care what your religion is.
00:53:52.000If you are opposed to the establishment, we are on the same side.
00:53:54.000Because if you believe in decentralised democracy, if you believe in running your own community, if you believe in the dismantling of the globalist machine, then you have more in common with one another than you have in common with the globalists.
00:54:04.000And you better find That place in common because there's a war going on and not just the ones that you're funding.
00:54:11.000Elon Musk's announced that he will fund legal challenges to Ireland's forthcoming hate speech legislation.
00:54:16.000Another globalist artifact to shut down dissent.
00:54:19.000The leader of Ireland, the Daleseach, I can't ever get that Gaelic word right, the Daleseach Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar is pressed on this and this is amazing they did some polls on do you want new censorship in your country Ireland after you've thrown off the oppression of the British and 70% of the public goes no thanks we'll decide for ourselves what we could talk about this is amazing look at the tangle this globalist leader gets himself into trying to defend these undemocratic
00:54:51.000Taoiseach, your government conducted a Taoiseach, that's the word, a public consultation regarding hate speech laws where citizens were asked to give their thoughts on the issue and out of the thousands of responses from private individuals over 70% were not supportive of such laws and yet you're proceeding with them anyway.
00:55:06.000So my question is why did your government bother to do a public consultation if you were just going to ignore the results?
00:55:36.000Well, we do public consultations because we think they're good practice.
00:55:39.000It's a way to find out what people's thoughts are on issues, and it's also a way to flesh out and highlight some of the issues we may not have considered.
00:55:49.000But we're also wise to the fact that the vast majority of people don't make submissions to public consultations.
00:55:56.000It's only a small portion of the population that participate in these things, so it's not necessarily All right, so he's sort of saying the polls are irrelevant.
00:56:36.000If a hundred thousand people go to the trouble of signing a petition saying we don't want the WHO determining our response to another, some would say inevitable, pandemic, you'll consider debating it.
00:56:47.000We've seen what debates look like when it's an important issue like excess deaths or vaccine injury.
00:57:00.000The MP who's determined to make some challenges on these issues coming on our show for you.
00:57:06.000Remember, he's a bit like, I suppose, is it, uh, who's our man, Ron Paul?
00:57:11.000Rand Paul, yeah, like Rand Paul, excuse me, I have a lot of information in my mind and I can't hold on to barely any of it is the truth.
00:57:17.000We're like, he's a bit like Rand Paul.
00:57:18.000He's trying to challenge the narrative from within the system.
00:57:21.000I bet there's a thousand things I don't agree with him on.
00:57:23.000I don't agree with my own wife on a thousand things.
00:57:25.000But what's important is for us to find the things we do agree on so we can form some kind of consensus so we can challenge this corruption.
00:57:45.000But why hold the consultation if the end result is just going to be disregarded on the basis that it's not representative of public opinion?
00:57:57.000Well, the point is that we're a democracy and in Ireland we have elections and decisions are made by the government and the elected parliament.
00:58:04.000They're not made on foot in public consultations or opinion polls.
00:58:49.000Remember, we've got a big week coming up because Julian Assange's hearing is next week and we'll be doing everything we can to support Julian Assange and I'm sorry to say that ain't a great deal because there's probably been negotiations and deals made between the United States and the UK to extradite him.
00:59:04.000But eventually people will understand that Julian Assange is exactly the kind of journalist that the world needs.
00:59:09.000A journalist that exposes state and international corruption to ordinary people so we can determine for ourselves Whether or not we trust them.
00:59:17.000In our conversation with Vivek Ramaswamy later in the week, he talks about Michelle Obama.
00:59:23.000Probably not to the degree that some of you in the chat would like to take the conversation, because I know the direction you'd take a Michelle Obama conversation.
00:59:30.000You would drag it down south, wouldn't you?
01:00:01.000When we talk to Schellenberger, you can talk to him.
01:00:03.000When Bandana Shiva comes on, one woman who they can't call racist because she's an Indian woman, who'll come out live and tell you Bill Gates has been worse to India than Hitler.
01:00:39.000Let's talk about the Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson axis.
01:00:43.000Let's talk about the significance of us being given direct access to important information so that we can decide for ourselves how much we trust Putin, how much we don't trust Putin, how much we want war, how much we don't want war, how much we trust Zelensky, how much we don't trust Zelensky.
01:00:56.000Whether or not we trust the military-industrial complex, how many of your tax dollars you want pumped into this next, latest, forever war, or whether or not you would like a diplomatic solution, and whether that might be best for everybody.
01:01:09.000Mohawk says in the chat, World Hoax Organization.
01:01:31.000Is this because Tucker is a traitor and it's somehow irreligious for him to have a conversation with Putin?
01:01:36.000Or is it because this conversation could give us the opportunity, along with the axis between Tucker and Elon Musk, to get an entirely different perspective on an extremely significant issue, global war.
01:01:48.000Consider this, if Tucker Carlson can interview Vladimir Putin and Elon Musk can publish it on X, that means that all of us are going to gain access to a perspective on a topic that could change the trajectory of world events that the establishment would rather we wouldn't have.
01:02:04.000Two years into a war that's reshaping the entire world, most Americans are not informed.
01:02:10.000They have no real idea what's happening in this region, here in Russia or 600 miles away in Ukraine.
01:03:07.000I'm not saying I know the answer to these questions.
01:03:09.000I'm saying we're entitled to have a conversation.
01:03:11.000And I would like to hear what Vladimir Putin's got to say about NATO, about the disputed region of the Donbass.
01:03:19.000about Crimea, about what his terms for peace would be, because we're continually told that Putin is a lunatic, can't be appeased, he's a contemporary Hitler.
01:03:28.000Wouldn't you like to see him answer some of those questions?
01:03:31.000Wouldn't you like to see a journalist and Vladimir Putin having a conversation before you just automatically assume that everything you're being told by CNN and the American government and the corporate establishment is irrefutably true?
01:03:43.000Isn't it interesting that Russia today has been cleansed from the internet, whereas apparently in Russia Tucker is a recognizable superstar, so whatever's going on in Russia, they're not banning all American media.
01:03:54.000So isn't it valuable to have a conversation while we're on the precipice of war?
01:03:59.000And are those people that are calling Tucker Carlson a traitor those that are most guilty of treason?
01:04:04.000Because they seem to want to cut us out of the conversation when it comes to extremely significant global events.
01:04:10.000This is what RFK tweeted, The legacy media is in shambles cause we've caught on to
01:04:40.000What we're asking you today is, are we literally at the tipping point of independent media?
01:04:46.000Where in the figures of Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk, we have an axis that could literally disrupt the entire establishment.
01:04:53.000Tucker Carlson can have a conversation with a world leader with a competing narrative, and Elon Musk can publish it through X. That means that all of us will gain access, we'll be able to watch with our own eyes and listen with our own ears to what Putin's saying.
01:05:05.000I'm not saying it's not possible that Putin is a liar, a lunatic, an expansionist, a former KGB operative that's possibly had a hand in countless murders that Russia have their own agenda, but If we can hear Putin literally saying, I would accept a peace deal if Ukraine don't join NATO, if we keep Crimea, and if there's a degree of autonomy in Donbass, we, the population of the Western world that are currently funding for our tax dollars and pounds the perpetuation of this war, might be able to go, hmm, what is the value of NATO?
01:05:32.000Wait a minute, are the military-industrial complex benefiting from this war?
01:05:36.000What state is Ukrainian democracy in anyway?
01:05:39.000Do we want conscription in the UK and Sweden and in Australia, which is currently being discussed by the way, presumably to provide human fodder for these wars?
01:05:48.000What this conversation represents is nothing less than the establishment being confronted with the new power of independent media to oppose their narrative, to oppose their agenda.
01:05:59.000Whatever you think of Tucker, whatever you think of Putin, Whatever you think of Elon Musk and even whatever you think about Russia, the panic that the legacy media and establishment are going into now suggests that they've got something more than our well-being in mind.
01:06:31.000Anyone who watches or listens to Tucker Carlson will know that he's sort of sometimes got a circumspect on Trump.
01:06:36.000I like Trump here, I've got questions about Trump there.
01:06:38.000MAGA is a very particular aspect of American political life, Make America Great Again, and it seems that there's a legacy media attempt to frame it as extreme rather than populist.
01:06:49.000to frame it as sort of violent and somehow unacceptable rather than a kind of response to the failure of neoliberalism.
01:06:56.000You don't get MAGA without Barack Obama waving away the debts generated by the financial crisis, for example.
01:07:06.000That's about Barack Obama's affinity with globalist financial interests.
01:07:11.000This is brilliant framing designed to stop us even questioning the legitimacy of Tucker going to Russia to have a conversation with Barack Obama.
01:07:19.000In fact, one of the leaders of the MAGA GOP is in Moscow tonight.
01:07:55.000I'm sure you could scrutinise Putin's record in power and go, oh my god, this looks a bit corrupt.
01:08:00.000The way that a new oligarchy was formed when state institutions were carved up and distributed, all of their former communist assets were privatised.
01:08:07.000There's loads of things you could ask about.
01:08:09.000I'm sure there's weird assassinations and murders, but like Trump himself said, do you think we don't have people killed?
01:08:21.000What it is is the assumption that Russia don't have their own right to a perspective, that Putin don't have his right to the institutions of a nation.
01:08:29.000If what Putin's doing is wrong in Russia, what America's doing all over the Middle East is wrong.
01:08:35.000That's the conversation they're not capable of having.
01:08:37.000I'll tell you who is capable of having that conversation, Tucker Carlson.
01:08:40.000I'll tell you who would ask questions like that to Vladimir Putin, Tucker Carlson.
01:08:43.000This isn't about whether you personally like someone, although I do personally like Tucker Carlson, as a matter of fact.
01:08:47.000This is about what the function of media is.
01:08:50.000Just listen to how Russian state media is breathlessly celebrating his visit.
01:08:57.000Even when I watch Russian media and Russian news, I think that is not a country you want to have a war with if there's any way around it.
01:09:48.000But the declaration of the legacy media that propaganda is a one-way street, that state imperatives is a one-way street, their globalist agenda is a one-way street.
01:09:56.000Remember, Tucker is being reported on in Russia, Russia Today, which includes people like Slavoj Žižek, the philosopher, Chris Hedges, like Pulitzer-prizing former New York Times journalist, had all their Russia Today stuff just scrapped.
01:10:09.000What we're saying is, is that the legacy media and establishment isn't interested in protecting you, it's interested in controlling you.
01:10:14.000Once you have that analytic, then everything kind of makes sense, doesn't it?
01:10:18.000Look at them talking about him like a celebrity. Everything he does on camera, breathlessly repeated.
01:10:23.000Now it is unclear if an interview between Putin and Carlson will take place, but if it does,
01:10:27.000it gives Putin a chance to sit down with a big supporter.
01:10:31.000Also, what's wrong with that? Again, the assumption that we're not capable of watching Tucker Carlson speak to Putin and
01:10:37.000go, Hmm, okay, right, well maybe Putin's got his own agenda.
01:10:40.000Can you incorporate that into your understanding that that's a world leader in charge of a massive country with an incredible history with his own agenda and nuclear weapons and literature?
01:10:48.000What I resent is the assumption that all information should be given to me pre-chewed with a pre-determined outcome already offered to us.
01:10:55.000Why they are terrified is because we might watch this and go, hey, I'm not sure it's worth perpetuating this war and funding this war and having this bill for billions of dollars go through, the majority of which, by the way, is going to Ukraine, not going to the border.
01:11:08.000A small amount is going to the border.
01:11:10.000We might be able to decide for ourselves that we want to take our own nations in a different direction, that our own media is unreliable, that our own political class is in need of radical revision.
01:11:21.000Here is Tucker Carlson when he was still on Fox, which if you ask me he was booted off of because he was anti-war, that's just my opinion, talking about Vladimir Putin.
01:11:29.000Have a listen to this and see if it makes sense to you.
01:11:31.000It might be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious, what is this really about?
01:11:50.000When he said, I don't want to be conscripted into the US Army to go fight other brown people around the world on behalf of an American agenda.
01:11:57.000Do you think America's really changed since then?
01:11:58.000Oh, that was America of the 1960s when it was governed by the military-industrial complex.
01:12:05.000Everything's changed since Wolfowitz and Cheney and Barack Obama and Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and reneging on a deal with Gorbachev to not impede on Russian territory or former Soviet territory and getting involved in the coup in Ukraine in 2014 and the Ukrainian biolabs and Victoria Nuland admitting that successive administrations have had involvement in Ukraine and supporting the Azov battalion that are literally Nazi.
01:13:11.000Not asking why all other media outlets have been shut down and why all of the political parties have been shut down.
01:13:17.000I was in Ukraine not asking why Gonzalo Lira, an American journalist, was in jail.
01:13:21.000I was in Ukraine believing that there's just good and bad and that's it.
01:13:25.000Ignoring the quote by Solzhenitsyn, because he's Russian, The good and evil doesn't run between nations, races, creeds, genders, or individuals, but through every human heart.
01:13:33.000Because we ain't got time for that, because we're offering you propaganda while accusing other people of being propagandists.
01:14:02.000And of course, this is a war crime, the invasion of Russia into Ukraine.
01:14:06.000And of course, we can't really talk about that because if we started using that metric, we'd have to acknowledge all of the war crimes the United States have committed over the last 50 years because all of their invasions have been criminal.
01:14:15.000Many of them have not involved the consultation of Congress.
01:14:47.000When you look at the mass graves, when you look at the death, do you think that Russia is going to be defeated in a military confrontation by Ukraine at any point?
01:14:54.000Do you think that there's not going to be a bit where they go, well, we've got nuclear arsenal.
01:14:57.000Why are we talking about conscription of troops in the United Kingdom and Australia and Sweden?
01:15:00.000Because they recognize that this conflict can continue to escalate.
01:15:08.000Also absent from this narrativisation is the fact that there was a peace deal on the table, apparently ready to be signed by both sides, and then Boris Johnson, Prime Minister of our country, the UK, went to Kiev and dissuaded Zelensky from signing it.
01:15:25.000We've seen Jens Stoltenberg, the head of NATO, say that Putin said, if Ukraine joins NATO, that's war.
01:15:35.000Presumably that means if Ukraine don't join NATO, that's not war.
01:15:43.000So have you personally got strong views on Ukraine joining NATO?
01:15:47.000I don't think Ukraine should be invaded.
01:15:48.000I don't think Ukrainian people should be attacked.
01:15:49.000I don't think Ukrainian people should be conscripted and killed.
01:15:52.000But I would like to see what Russia, and in particular Vladimir Putin, have got to say.
01:15:57.000I'm determined for myself, perhaps based on a conversation with you lot, whether or not we trust Putin.
01:16:00.000Putin said that he's not got an interest in invading other NATO countries like we're continually told he's going to.
01:16:06.000Oh, he invaded Ukraine and next was Finland, Sweden.
01:16:08.000We've been told to think of this as a kind of Hitler part two.
01:16:11.000But in fact, what this is, is it seems to me, a globalist attempt to continue to perpetuate a very profitable war and extracting complex information that we're entitled to hear, i.e.
01:16:21.000Tucker Carlson should interview Putin.
01:16:24.000Putin is trying to seize on the fact that Zelensky's military appears to be in turmoil,
01:16:28.000capitalizing on a moment of intense American political dysfunction and intensifying strikes.
01:16:35.000Here's presidential candidate Bobby Kennedy offering some elucidation on his opinion that
01:16:40.000yes, Tucker Carlson has every right to interview Putin and that Putin and the Russian people have
01:16:45.000every right to their own trajectory. Again, I don't think Ukraine should be bombed. I don't
01:16:48.000think there should be a war between Ukraine and Russia, but I would like to understand why it's
01:16:50.000happening and how it would be most expediently stopped immediately.
01:16:55.000Putin every day says, I want to settle the war. Let's negotiate. And Zelensky has said,
01:17:00.000we're not going to negotiate. But in 92, the wall came down in the Soviet Union. Gorbachev said,
01:17:06.000I'm going to allow you to reunify Germany, but I want your commitment.
01:17:11.000After that you will not move NATO one inch to the east and we solemnly swore we wouldn't do it.
01:17:18.000Someone should have written that down really, shouldn't they?
01:17:20.000It's a pretty important commitment that was made between Reagan and Gorbachev there and one that appears to have been reneged upon due to the agenda of of actually Western expansionism and imperialism.
01:17:31.000Why is it that you can have China surrounded by US military bases,
01:17:35.000and then when China does something and it negatively impacts a warship
01:17:38.000in the South Pacific, China are the aggressors?
01:17:41.000We have to, I think, train ourselves to have a broader perspective,
01:17:44.000not be called traitors for doing that.
01:17:46.000Well then in 97, we're going to move NATO a thousand miles to the east
01:17:51.000and take 15 countries into it and surround the Soviet Union.
01:18:25.000What we're listening to there is a set of reasons that led to the escalation of this conflict.
01:18:31.000Whenever you hear the critiques of Russia and Putin, it sounds like propaganda.
01:18:35.000When you hear the counter-narrative, for which everyone from Tucker to us to Greyzone are called Putin apologists for recounting, it's like, well, isn't the 2014 coup relevant?
01:18:46.000Isn't the disputed region of the Donbass relevant?
01:18:48.000These things are legitimate questions that you will see Putin respond to when Tucker does that interview, and that's what terrifies them.
01:18:55.000What terrifies them is hundreds of millions of people, let's say, watching that and going, Huh.
01:19:00.000Do I want my children or my family conscripted into the military to fight that war?
01:19:04.000Do I want my tax dollars endlessly spent on that conflict, knowing what I know about Afghanistan, that it cost two trillion dollars and how did we benefit?
01:19:12.000It ended in a botched evacuation and disaster.
01:19:15.000Once we have that information, they no longer have power over us.
01:19:18.000Isn't it more likely that's their concern rather than what is the other reason?
01:19:22.000Oh, well, this is bad for them, going over there to speak to Putin.
01:20:04.000And since then, 450,000 kids have died.
01:20:08.000So that is why the Tucker Carlson-Putin interview matters.
01:20:11.000That is why Tucker Carlson's relationship with Elon Musk is important.
01:20:15.000You might find a hundred things you disagree with Tucker Carlson or Elon Musk or indeed Vladimir Putin on, but what you do have the right to is their perspective.
01:20:22.000And the reason that the legacy media and the establishment are flapping and panicking and trying to shut this down isn't to protect you, but because they want to control you.
01:20:30.000When you hear Bobby Kennedy explain an alternative history of this escalating conflict, as well as pointing out some of the obvious consequences for Ukrainian people, for Russian people, potentially for your family coming up, for your tax dollars already, doesn't it seem like hearing directly from Vladimir Putin might be valuable?
01:20:46.000Doesn't it seem like a peaceful solution might be favourable?
01:20:48.000Doesn't it seem like we might be at the very point where independent media could topple
01:20:53.000the chokehold that the legacy media and their establishment affiliates have over the minds
01:22:02.000Fox News is parting ways with primetime host and conservative commentator Tucker Carlson.
01:22:07.000How do you feel about the fact that, you know, in your career you've moved from being in one media space to another one that had a very different identity in terms of Fox and the role that you had there?