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00:03:59.000If you saw it, you'll know that it was a particular speech about imposing tariffs On China, were they to continue their practice of establishing factories south of the American border in Mexico.
00:04:12.000But that hasn't stopped the legacy media leaping on that word, the word bloodbath, as if it's a glorious hook upon which to hang propaganda.
00:04:21.000Jen Psaki's done a piece on it, the fella From Morning Joe, did a little bit on it.
00:04:27.000He's actually as emphatic as I've ever seen him.
00:04:29.000And Nancy Pelosi with, if I'm not mistaken, a glorious new haircut was talking about it.
00:04:35.000I think that this is something I'd like to invite you to consider.
00:04:39.000If the word bloodbath provokes such conjecture, what about the numerous bloodbaths around the world right now?
00:04:48.000In Gaza, the escalating tensions between the United States and China, which has not yet become a bloodbath, I acknowledge, but has the potential to certainly consume much life and the mother of them all, an ongoing potential nuclear conflict Between NATO nations and Vladimir Putin's Russia and indeed it is Vladimir Putin's Russia because he's just won an election there.
00:05:12.000Many people complaining that it's not a proper election.
00:05:17.000The only elections we like are the ones that we can rig either through the management of the news cycle, through a variety of other means that I won't list while we're still on YouTube.
00:05:26.000Or simply by presenting you with alternatives that do not allow you to interrupt institutional power while we are still broadcasting within the regime.
00:05:38.000I'm talking about those WHO censored and mainstream framing spaces.
00:06:05.000They can't even do their normal job of getting a plane from A to B. You can't give them an additional weather management system obligations.
00:06:12.000We'll be covering all of the news that the legacy media are manipulating and we'll be giving you different perspectives on the significance of the TikTok bill, the propaganda around Trump and what is being concealed.
00:06:25.000First of all there's a look here's Kate Middleton she's up to something but that even that is not a recent photograph is that is that the truth?
00:07:46.000It's gonna be bad if he is actually dead, isn't it?
00:07:48.000But I suppose What this shows you is that we live in a different media space now.
00:07:53.000The old elites don't know how to tackle the problems of new media, and particularly independent media.
00:08:00.000And one relic who remains at the top of a pyramid of power, and you better believe I'm using the phrase pyramid deliberately, is Joe Biden. Did you know he's Irish? Has he ever
00:08:09.000mentioned that before? Has he ever sought to gain cultural capital from Irishness? I'm one of
00:08:14.000your own! Have a look at this extraordinary speech where he seems to imply that ERA is a company rather
00:08:23.000than a nation. You know, just a sort of a panoply of Biden disasters. Let's have a
00:08:31.000Great to have you here and I'm very happy to see Northern Ireland's Executive Assembly
00:08:34.000reinstated last month. Like sometimes I just get used to the idea now that when I'm listening to
00:08:39.000Joe Biden there will be a significant number of words that are not part of our language.
00:08:44.000I believe you know that praying in tongues may be a way of reaching transcendent spiritual forces but I don't think a president should be doing it while addressing the world.
00:08:55.000Now Northern Ireland is a fully functioning government again and I didn't envisage a colleague.
00:09:03.000People of Northern Ireland represent the great peace So, to ensure that we are not victim to the global propaganda machine, let's have a look at what
00:09:15.000Donald Trump actually said, and then wait till you see how it's reported on.
00:09:24.000So you'll see the speech and you'll see that it's plainly a comment on tariffs, car manufacturer, it's an attempt to reach blue-collar Americans whose jobs in industry have been compromised by globalism, and by globalism I don't only mean a set of establishment elites that see the world in terms of territories To be carved up, then managed by various bureaucracies, whether that's NATO, the WHO, IMF, etc.
00:09:51.000But, I mean, old-school globalism of outsourcing manufacture.
00:09:56.000And then when you see how Jen Psaki and Morning Joe and all those guys... Brilliant!
00:10:58.000China now is building a couple of massive plants where they're going to build the cars in Mexico and think they think that they're going to sell those cars into the United States with no tax at the border.
00:12:33.000So he went from talking very specifically about imposing tariffs on China over trade because of the practice of increasing industry in Mexico to suddenly making a threat that there would be an armed insurrection again.
00:12:52.000Remember that insurrections must be armed.
00:13:00.000It was actually a rather dry piece of rhetoric about challenging a rival global superpower in the context of industry.
00:13:12.000You can only make sense of this propagandist attack by extracting the information from its context.
00:13:19.000Sometimes a bloodbath means a bloodbath and when he finishes by saying and that's just going to be the least of it Seriously, these people may be stupid We're not so a lot's packed into that.
00:13:32.000Of course, there's an attack on the 52% of you I'm talking to people in the United States of America that prefer Donald Trump over Joe Biden if it were to be a direct contest you are easily dismissed as And it seems like they've lost touch with the fact that now we have access to this information and can make these assessments for ourselves.
00:13:56.000Now, Jen Psaki, in her analysis, does at least acknowledge the idea of context, that this piece of information has been taken out of context.
00:14:05.000But her gambit is to expand it and say there's an even broader context where it'll make sense again.
00:14:40.000Do you believe that these are sort of dog whistle or tacit messages that were the election in spite of the evident polling popularity of Trump to go Biden's way that There would be armed consequences or specifically blood baths.
00:15:00.000Or do you feel like it was just a piece of casual language?
00:15:04.000And it's a casual language that's pretty... piece of casual language that's pretty frequently used.
00:15:10.000Have a look at Nancy Pelosi jumping on the blood bath bandwagon.
00:15:40.000What about the millions of Americans who risked or gave their lives?
00:15:46.000It's not like, this is as if the phrase bloodbath had never existed before and yet bloodbath is a piece, an idiom that's frequently used in media spaces.
00:16:00.000We begin tonight with the race for the White House and former President Trump's campaign now on the defensive after his fiery rhetoric at a rally in Dayton, Ohio.
00:16:34.000So here you go, if you put Trump bloodbath into a Google search, look what comes up!
00:16:37.000Just a spate, a limitless spate of stories, reiterating this decontextualized piece of language.
00:16:47.000The reason I think it's significant It's not only because I genuinely don't think that that was Trump trying to sort of threaten an insurrection in the event that he was not successful in the 2024 election.
00:16:59.000I think it indicates there's a complete lack of ideas within the establishment that they have nothing to offer except for the ongoing demonization of Trump.
00:17:09.000You know, like, If you consider that there are bloodbaths currently being enacted on the people of this planet in various wars and massacres and what some people are referring to as genocides and many people believe incidentally that the current attempts to restrict control and even ban TikTok are not about protecting the American people but are about preventing war reporting happen in an unregulated fashion
00:17:37.000Let me know if you're aware of those stories that the appetite to control TikTok is indeed not even to protect you from China.
00:17:46.000There's some brilliant stuff from Rand Paul on this that you'll enjoy.
00:17:49.000Do we have any idea where the bloodbath comp is?
00:18:33.000You know, my concern has always been with the centralization of power, with giving up power.
00:18:37.000I don't care whether it's a Republican or a Democrat president.
00:18:40.000I don't want any president to have the power to ban apps that are sold on an app store.
00:18:44.000And that's essentially what this is going to happen.
00:18:47.000180 million Americans put dance videos up and whatever else is on TikTok, and they choose the terms of those services the same way people on Facebook do.
00:19:13.000You can't say stuff just over and over again that's not true.
00:19:17.000TikTok is owned by about 60% of its own by international investors from all over the world.
00:19:22.000I think what we're experiencing now is a kind of a meltdown into total hysteria, still trying to pose itself as rationalism and progressivism.
00:19:26.000the app and 20% is owned by the employees of TikTok which...
00:19:31.000I think what we're experiencing now is a kind of a meltdown into total hysteria still trying to
00:19:37.000pose itself as rationalism and progressivism. I think that the
00:19:47.000And they're attempting to exert power using methods that 10, 20 years ago would have been successful.
00:19:54.000Maintaining the line, propaganda, denial of alternative news sources.
00:19:59.000But they no longer inhabit that ecosystem.
00:20:02.000Now we have independent media movements that are far more powerful than declining legacy media.
00:20:08.000We have new political classes and cultural classes emerging that are willing to have different types of conversations and form different types of alliances.
00:20:18.000New political systems that mirror this online technology will emerge where people begin to recognise that we can have decentralised, open confederacies.
00:20:29.000New systems of representative, you call them constitutional republics as I know you don't like the word democrat at all, The reason I used it, what I mean when I say democracy, is not the preservation and protection of a set of institutions that are able to continually assert power.
00:20:43.000I mean representation, the representation of the will of the people, at the most local scale possible.
00:20:51.000And of course with this technology, it becomes entirely plausible.
00:20:55.000But it has, yeah, decentralized but unified, eh Miller?
00:21:29.000officials told members of Congress that the Biden administration approved and delivered more than 100 separate weapons sales to Israel in 150 days after October 7th amounting to thousands of precision-guided munitions, small-diameter bombs, bunker busters, small arms, and other lethal aid, The Washington Post reported on Wednesday.
00:21:46.000That works out to one new arms deal every 36 hours on average.
00:21:50.000These transfers are classified as sales but very few of them meet that definition in the conventional sense.
00:21:56.000The vast majority are funded through State Department grants.
00:21:59.000Biden made just two of these publicly funded sales to Israel public and the only reason he did is because he had to.
00:22:05.000Section 36 of the Arms Export Contract Act requires the President to notify Congress when a proposed arms sale exceeds a certain value.
00:22:14.000While Biden is loud and proud about arming Ukraine, he prefers to arm Israel in secret by spreading his military support for Israel across more than 100 sales.
00:22:22.000Biden kept pretty much all of them under the threshold per the AECA, thereby avoiding congressional and public scrutiny.
00:22:34.000Which bloodbath is worthy of the attention of the legacy media?
00:22:38.000And indeed, what do you imagine the TikTok ban is really about?
00:22:44.000Is the TikTok ban about protecting you from a mendacious Chinese government that has an interest in maneuvering Political issues within the United States?
00:22:55.000Or is the TikTok ban about restricting media in your country so that you don't have access to news reporting via TikTok that you otherwise wouldn't?
00:23:05.000I've had friends that tell me that TikTok reports on Middle Eastern matters in a way that is, I would say, I've heard pretty Bold and explicit.
00:23:17.000Washington's renewed urgency for TikTok ban is due to the war on Gaza.
00:23:21.000Let me know what you think about this.
00:23:23.000The renewed urgency to pass a bill to ban TikTok emerged due to Washington's concern about how its users were interacting with content regarding the Israeli war in Gaza.
00:23:32.000Many of TikTok's users share pro-Palestinian messages far more frequently than pro-Israeli viewpoints.
00:23:37.000The public debate between members of the House of Representatives centers around Chinese ownership of TikTok and the Chinese government's level of influence over the platform.
00:23:45.000However, renewed interest in passing the legislation only materialized in Washington because many of TikTok's users share content with an overwhelmingly pro-Palestinian message.
00:23:53.000And did you notice there that Ram Paul said is not significantly owned by the state?
00:23:57.000Now I'm sure if they are resident in China, they are subject to pretty significant centralized control.
00:24:04.000But do you think that your government doesn't have control over Facebook?
00:24:08.000We know that throughout the entire pandemic period, various deep state assets were manipulating,
00:24:17.000We know that pharmaceutical companies extraordinarily were impacting the reporting that we were doing,
00:24:22.000the various other independent journalists were doing.
00:24:25.000We've got a series of Freedom of Information Acts requesting right now, your state, my state,
00:24:31.000the state at large are partnering with big tech to control information.
00:24:35.000These censorship laws that are being passed around the world are being done precisely to facilitate that.
00:24:42.000Platforms like Rumble, significantly, X, Undoubtedly, and TikTok peculiarly, are spaces that the American government and the set of institutions and alliances that they have are plainly finding difficult to control.
00:24:57.000So again, you just have to return to a core question.
00:25:03.000When they claim to be protecting you, when you see Morning Joe, hysterical About Trump using a pretty popular and common idiom.
00:25:12.000When you see Nancy Pelosi frenetic and frantic, if that's a fair term.
00:25:17.000When you see Jen Psaki claiming that the only context that matters is a context that's been cultivated and created by legacy media for many years now, since dear Donald Trump first came down that golden escalator and announced his candidacy.
00:25:33.000What is the context they want you to live within?
00:27:46.000Well, it may be true because I'm sure it's not easy to operate within China without the intervention of the Chinese Communist Party, but do you imagine that Facebook are like independent radicals who don't curate their content in order to facilitate the message of the establishment?
00:28:14.000Now, the company that owns TikTok also owns something like TikTok that is censored, and the Chinese let that be broadcast throughout China.
00:28:24.000The Chinese government does have a member of the board.
00:28:46.000So they're doing anything they can to comply.
00:28:48.000And yet the hysterics in the house are just, shut them down, shut them down, communism this, communism that.
00:28:56.000Look, I've written two books about Chinese communism and what it does both During the COVID leak and also what it did during Mao's reign.
00:29:03.000So I am no fan of Chinese communism, but at the same time, we can't sort of like, you know, emulate the Chinese to try to protect our way of life becoming like the Chinese and banning things.
00:29:18.000They have a censored version in China that the Chinese government does control, but they don't control TikTok over here.
00:29:23.000If we ban TikTok, we're simply becoming and acting like the Chinese.
00:29:28.000It's extraordinary that during the pandemic period many democracies bemoaned the fact that they would be unable to perfectly emulate the tyrannical conditions imposed by China.
00:29:45.000Through concerns of safety, through the promise of convenience.
00:29:49.000And this is a further example of censorship posing as protection.
00:29:54.000What did we learn in the pandemic period?
00:29:56.000They continually censored information in order to protect us.
00:30:00.000Well, what's happening now with the censorship of the conversation around excess deaths?
00:30:04.000With the censorship of the conversation around events in Ukraine?
00:30:08.000The censorship of the conversation around events in Gaza?
00:30:11.000The mad and giddy amplification of Of Donald Trump's bloodbath moment, euphemism, metaphor, while elsewhere bloodbaths are literally censored and ignored.
00:30:24.000What is it about TikTok that is so dangerous?
00:30:28.000Is it that TikTok is dangerous because it gives the Chinese a conduit through which they can manipulate the American population?
00:30:55.000Remember, again, that Russia Today, a somewhat innocuous, if propagandist, and certainly biased news media channel from Russia, is banned on YouTube.
00:31:06.000You can watch it on Rumble, because, guess what?
00:31:09.000I think we should be able to decide for ourselves Whether Russian propaganda, or Chinese propaganda, or American propaganda, or Dutch or Senegalese propaganda is for us, perhaps what we ought be granted is our individual sovereign right to make decisions for ourselves about what we believe in.
00:31:27.000Let me know what you think we should believe in.
00:34:11.000Whereas in some other countries, like in your country, can you consider Can you consider democratic when one side is using the justice machine in order to attack one of the candidates?
00:34:31.000We do not have any preference for any candidates in the US.
00:34:37.000We will work with anyone who's elected.
00:34:39.000Great, in the stream here, Ash66 says, optimist, study English, pessimist, study Chinese, realist, learn to operate a Kalashnikov.
00:35:58.000and I believe that I've got all reasons to believe that there's no democracy in the election process
00:36:11.000in the western countries and especially in the US. Yeah it's difficult to deny that when what we have
00:36:20.000plainly is a legacy media that says democracy is the ability to vote for Joe Biden because if you
00:36:26.000Vote for Donald Trump. Why? He just told you there's a bloodbath a-coming.
00:36:30.000That they, even from their own perspective, are unable to account in their rhetoric for the four years that Trump served as president That didn't lead to any extraordinary anomaly at all, even when it comes to the appeasement of Russia.
00:36:44.000You would have to say that in the preceding administration, Putin, I think, invaded Georgia.
00:36:49.000In the subsequent administration, Putin invaded Ukraine.
00:36:53.000It's very difficult to find a single argument for Joe Biden outside of a very niche group who are attracted to geriatrics for reasons that I find rather deplorable.
00:37:05.000In fact, continually provoking Russia into a conflict, knowing the nature of their armory, for me has a resonance that could perhaps be visually illustrated in this manner.
00:37:36.000Perhaps you've observed the internet's extraordinary capacity to expunge all imagery of dead serviceman Aaron Bushnell, whose self-immolation formed a protest against Gaza.
00:37:50.000Numerous US veterans are now standing in solidarity They don't have the guts to call for a ceasefire.
00:37:59.000the conflict in Gaza. Let's have a look. They don't have the guts to call for a ceasefire.
00:38:07.000He died for the sins of our Congress because they don't have the guts to call for a ceasefire
00:38:16.000because of their lust for power and their fear of being voted based on lobbyists
00:38:24.000representing a foreign country paying for someone else to run against them.
00:38:40.000I don't know if a fire is the best way to commemorate poor dear Aaron Bushnell.
00:38:44.000Another hypocrisy that cannot be alluded to except outside of the United States and indeed our country the United Kingdom is the ongoing incarceration ...of Julian Assange, a journalist who published information that was detrimental to the agenda of the United States, and in particular their war machine, who still now awaits to hear whether or not he can appeal his extradition to America, where he'll face one of those life sentences that goes on longer than the lives of, like, I don't know, Methuselah and Old Testament characters.
00:39:17.000My only hope is that if we had been on active duty at the same time, that I would have had an opportunity to let him know he was not alone, that many of us had the same concerns that he had, and I would have done everything I could to be with him and help him through what he was going through.
00:39:38.000But he was a part of our government that was aiding and abetting a genocide, and he didn't want to be a part of that.
00:39:47.000And the only way I can only imagine that he felt that he could do something about it was to give his life in front of the Israeli embassy.
00:39:57.000Many of us after the Iraq war, when we found out that the reason and justification for going to war was a lie, we all have felt betrayed.
00:40:06.000And now we're feeling like we're pawns of foreign policy.
00:40:11.000Doesn't look good, this ongoing condemnation of U.S.
00:40:16.000funded military activity, when veterans condemn it and come out in solidarity with Aaron Bushnell, while deals are continually done, while the pipeline of funding continues, unlike the Nord Stream pipeline, of course, which was blown up by Russia, as I remember.
00:40:33.000This is a time of transition and change.
00:40:35.000A hazy, fluxy, peculiar time indeed and I'm grateful for the opportunity to speak to you directly.
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00:44:36.000We've got to ban TikTok right now because there are no other social media sites that are used to spy on citizens by any other government except for all other social media sites and the United States government and all other governments.
00:44:55.000Right now, before our very eyes, the legacy media will say, in a rare moment of bipartisan support, both Democrats and Republicans agree that we should shut down TikTok.
00:45:17.000And is this banning of TikTok about protecting And I guess that's become one of the questions I would ask about any regulation or legislation that's being passed, just to take a breath, take a step and go, is this about protecting me or is this about controlling me?
00:45:31.000Whether it's climate change, whether it's pandemics, whether it's wars, whether it's health, just look at always at protection or control.
00:45:43.000Like what you really need to be protected from are institutions and groups that are hell bent on power.
00:45:49.000Now let's have a look at some of those.
00:45:51.000And let's have a look at what's really going on together and see if we can make sense of it.
00:45:54.000Tonight, the House overwhelmingly voting to ban TikTok, the wildly popular social media app, unless it's sold by its Chinese parent company ByteDance.
00:46:03.000Lawmakers responding to concerns TikTok poses a national security threat and compromises the data of its 170 million American users.
00:46:12.000Do you remember when Trump wanted to ban TikTok?
00:46:16.000That was about the control of free speech.
00:46:18.000Now, the neoliberal media establishment are broadly supportive of this idea.
00:46:23.000You've already heard that it's bipartisan.
00:46:27.000Remember when we talk about principles here, we say it's a value, an idea that doesn't fluctuate just because it happens to be inconvenient.
00:46:54.000It's interesting, Nancy, I wonder if you've got any information that you might tell your husband, Paul Pelosi, who invests primarily in Tech companies and seems to be doing quite well in fact in the time that Nancy Pelosi has been in office her personal wealth has significantly increased largely due to the investments of her husband.
00:47:13.000So we are not watching a person without skin in the game even when it comes to personal investments.
00:47:17.000But what's more important and significant when it comes to this story is the legislation Isn't particular or exclusive to TikTok, it's any websites that are accused of interfering with elections.
00:47:51.000The FBI and top intelligence officials sounding the alarm, warning the Chinese government could use TikTok to access Americans' personal information.
00:48:04.000Did we not listen to the plain fact that the agencies that you fund through your taxes are spying on you all of the time, capturing and scraping all of your data, compiling it until they need it continually.
00:48:15.000And even now, while saying they don't do it, they're deploying private firms to do exactly that and then The problem is their ability to manipulate you.
00:48:22.000we can't directly spy on our citizens, but what we can do is get private firms to catch the data and then we'll buy
00:48:26.000that data from them. It's the same thing. They're ingenious
00:48:29.000manufacturing methods to continue to exert control and this is obviously entirely about control.
00:48:35.000The problem is their ability to manipulate you. They already manipulate your algorithm based on what you like.
00:48:40.000How dare you manipulate my algorithm based on what I like?
00:48:44.000It's interesting is it's a sort of apply morality to these systems that are essentially following business
00:48:50.000imperatives and if the fundamental concern is the relationship between TikTok and the Chinese state then let's
00:48:54.000have a look at the relationship between Facebook and the United States of America and Google and
00:49:20.000And that can be, that can be innocent.
00:49:22.000All social media companies do that to try and tailor your feed.
00:49:26.000But it's a problem when, when, when the person in charge, the entity in charge of manipulating can be an adversary like the Chinese Communist Party.
00:49:34.000What about an adversary like the American government?
00:49:38.000What about our increasing recognition that the states and institutions that purportedly govern us regard us as enemies?
00:49:46.000Note their deployment of words like extremism and hate and anti-terror organizations being repurposed domestically and when you know for a fact that they occupy an entirely different world economically and in many cases ideologically.
00:51:06.000You won't get any of that in the Democrat Party or from the Clintons or any of those guys.
00:51:10.000If you check where their funding is, you could never track their donations and their lobbyists towards the instantiation of policies around war or pharmaceuticals or anything at all.
00:51:58.000We're going to tell Americans they can't put a piece of software on their computer.
00:52:04.000They can't go to certain websites that the president designates.
00:52:08.000A while ago, Joe Biden was specifically investing money in TikTok influencers because they were of some value.
00:52:15.000It's an extraordinary world we live in.
00:52:17.000So I urge my colleagues to oppose this well-intentioned... Well-intentioned, you know, because half of my party are voting for it.
00:52:24.000Bill, because it will have bad consequences and I yield back the balance of my time.
00:52:28.000Tucker had a post on it and David Sachs posted this.
00:52:32.000The TikTok bill gives Biden the power to ban websites and apps run by a person subject to the direction or control of a foreign personal entity.
00:52:39.000Given that Biden routinely smears political opponents as being under the control of Putin, the danger should be obvious.
00:52:45.000Right, so let's get into this in a little more detail.
00:52:48.000The House of Representatives voted 352 to 65.
00:52:50.000Oh no, so it's gonna happen unless something crazy interrupts it.
00:52:55.000On Wednesday, for a bill that threatens to ban the social media platform TikTok, the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act would ban TikTok from app stores unless its Chinese parent company ByteDance gives up ownership within six months.
00:53:10.000President Donald Trump, who once attempted to remove TikTok from U.S.
00:53:14.000app stores, said on March 11th that a TikTok ban could make Facebook bigger, censoring it as an enemy of the people.
00:53:19.000Billionaire Elon Musk on March the 12th also claimed the bill could restrict access to the app, which he said amounts to censorship and government control.
00:53:28.000All of the Musk haters out there have got to acknowledge that he's saying that a rival platform to whom he must cede some cyber territory have rights internationally, presumably because of his values, but also perhaps spotting that where this is heading is goodbye rumble, Goodbye, X. Goodbye, everyone, except Facebook and Alphabet and organizations that are compliant.
00:53:50.000Because you'd be naive to think, wouldn't you, if you've had a look at the conversations that went on between Mark Zuckerberg and Fauci during the period of the pandemic, that there hasn't been conversations that go, it'd be kind of convenient if there was no TikTok allowed in America.
00:54:03.000I mean, you know, that might increase Meta's market share.
00:54:06.000Well, what would you do for us if some legislation made one of your competitors obsolete?
00:54:11.000Moshe, if you asked us to say, like, everyone should stay in their house and that, and the people that said that that might not be a bad idea and they're a contrary narrative to discuss, we'd sort of shut those down.
00:54:22.000The vote moved America a little bit closer to Chinese-style online censorship that TikTok's opponents decry.
00:54:28.000Whether they acknowledge it or not, TikTok's opponents are using the same arguments that Chinese and Iranian censors can and do use to justify cracking down on social media in their own countries.
00:54:56.000There is just the sustenance and maintenance of power for power's sake to continue to facilitate itself.
00:55:02.000It's a peculiar serpent consuming itself with no vision, trapping us all in a perennial present, ironically, staring at screens ourselves, lost in melancholy, nostalgia, and overstimulation, and it will not let us break out of that, and anything that could potentially be used as a vassal for awakening will be shut down and controlled.
00:55:21.000They don't care about anything except control.
00:55:26.000Legislators have made exceedingly clear that the intent of the bill they're currently fast-tracking through Congress is to finally ban TikTok in the United States, as Representative Elise Stefanik, Republican New York Chair of the House Republican Conference, proudly put it.
00:55:41.000Ultimately, the desired end result is the same one that's been long sought by Representative Gallagher, the bill's leading sponsor, to ban TikTok before it's too late.
00:55:49.000The forced divestiture is merely a mechanism To achieve this predetermined outcome.
00:55:53.000We're familiar now with the way that these things go, you know, hate speech, protect children, ban just these kind of people that we all agree are bad.
00:56:01.000Well, I suppose that's also a bit of a threat, isn't it?
00:56:03.000So whilst this is saying, no, we're not actually getting rid of TikTok, we're just saying we don't want them owned by... Well, it's pretty clear that ultimately the aim is to either co-opt and colonize TikTok or eliminate TikTok and its potential for free speech.
00:56:18.000In fact, In fact, I would argue that it's, in a sense, using TikTok's popularity among a particular generation, a generation that perhaps aren't especially invested in the type of political processes that are currently being undertaken, that makes it an ideal target.
00:56:33.000And secondarily, other platforms will be targeted that are relevant, that are explicitly used for free speech issues.
00:56:40.000Meanwhile, of course, the whole ecosystem of social media platforms will fall immediately into alignment with the establishment and their goals.
00:56:55.000Right now, drafters of the bill are said to have received technical assistance from the White House.
00:56:59.000President Biden swiftly pledged to sign it.
00:57:02.000Among the factors that are said to have spurred this latest outburst of legislative activity was a secret briefing last week by the FBI, the Department of Justice and the Director of National Intelligence, Odney.
00:57:12.000Because it was a classified hearing, I cannot discuss the details, explained Representative Morgan Griffith, a member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which sprung into action after receiving the intelligence community presentation.
00:57:23.000Somewhat ironic that the intelligence community are meeting to help us not be spied on when it seems to be a significant portion of their day-to-day work.
00:57:32.000If the bill supporters get what they want, millions of Americans would find their ability to access TikTok terminated by the government just in time for the November 2024 election.
00:57:41.000This radical state intervention was endorsed last week by the House Energy and Commerce Committee in a unanimous 50 to 0 vote establishing a coveted bipartisan consensus in favour of expelling American users from their preferred social media platform.
00:57:53.000This extreme action is to be carried out as usual in the alleged name of national security and to more aggressively combat perceived foreign adversaries.
00:58:02.000The bill names TikTok as a foreign adversary controlled application, with the adversary in question being China, but it also goes further and prohibits applications associated with the standard litany of official US adversaries, Russia, North Korea and Iran.
00:58:15.000One thing that's good about this bill is you can tell which wars are coming up in the next few months.
00:58:19.000It's less of a bill and more of a spoiler.
00:58:20.000More additions to the list are always possible, perhaps in the event that Cuba or Venezuela develop a short-form dance video app that becomes suspiciously popular with American teens.
00:58:29.000Another provision authorizes the President, who is currently Joe Biden and may soon be Donald Trump, to make unilateral determinations about whether certain applications present a significant threat to the national security of the United States and therefore must be banned like TikTok.
00:58:42.000The criteria for making such a determination is left conspicuously vague.
00:58:45.000It makes you curious, doesn't it, that when they consider Donald Trump to be such an astonishing threat to Democracy and the American way of life and that he will make himself a dictator that they're pushing through legislation that were he to become the president in a matter of months would be exploitable enormously in order to control free speech.
00:59:03.000So maybe they know something we don't know about the outcome of the next election.
00:59:07.000But again, the whole thing is meant to be about election interference, so it can't be that.
00:59:11.000So if you really want to give Biden or Trump more unilateral power to control the proliferation of content online, this appears to be just the bill for you.
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01:00:28.000If enacted, Americans who suddenly find their access to TikTok terminated by federal decree would include millions of adults, not just minors, by any stretch, for whom TikTok is a primary means of consuming news and information, as well as expressing their own public speech, and in some cases, even earning a livelihood.
01:00:43.000While China may not have First Amendment right to operate commercial enterprises in the United States, American citizens are certainly afforded First Amendment protections against their speech being abridged by the government.
01:00:53.000Punitive state intervention to blockade Americans from a massively popular social media platform which they had otherwise used voluntarily to consume the speech of others and express their own speech would be a speech abridging action by the federal government of a magnitude that has no obvious precedent.
01:01:06.000It's unprecedented censorship in a time where censorship is in all of our minds when we're all concerned about it when we've all seen what happened during the pandemic period we'll see what's going on with regard to reporting on and discussing current global conflicts pick your conflict pick one you care about note the censorship around it unless conveniently with that conflict you happen to be in alignment with establishment interest then you won't notice any censorship because at this time it's convenient to your particular perspective but this is unprecedented and
01:01:33.000Likely will be used to establish a norm.
01:01:36.000You know, do you still take your shoes off at airports?
01:01:40.000Has the threat of terror been rescinded?
01:01:42.000You can tell me for yourself in the chat whether or not you've noticed measures to relinquish power once it is gained.
01:01:49.000If the case for banning TikTok advanced by the intelligence community is so airtight and worthy of instant unanimous approval, they should disclose the supporting evidence.
01:01:56.000Otherwise, the public's only option is to credulously accept subjective, questionably motivated claims of unknown intelligent community operators who purport to assess a national security threat posed by communist-controlled teenage dance videos, before rashly ejecting up to 170 million American users from a top social media platform, partly based on evidence furnished in these secret Star Chamber proceedings.
01:02:16.000Why not declassify and release the relevant evidentiary material so the public can evaluate it from themselves?
01:02:22.000Why should informed democratic deliberations on the subject be reserved for those with specially approved security clearances?
01:02:27.000Because that is how power works now and it's necessary and fundamental for you to accept the constant tacit implication that you are not able to determine for yourself what That's a requirement, isn't it?
01:02:39.000If you start to demand, well, I'll decide for myself whether or not to undertake a medical procedure, take a medication, read this information, believe this information.
01:02:49.000Once you asserted a little bit of self-confidence, a bit of self-belief, a bit of trust in yourself and your own ability to assess information, the whole gig starts to become a little bit shaky, doesn't it?
01:02:59.000But as long as we continue to accept that these people have our best interests and the ability to protect our best interests, then I guess we're just gonna have to sit here In March 2023, debate over an earlier iteration of the TikTok banning bill, Senator Rand Paul said this isn't just about the company, this is about the rights of 150 million Americans.
01:03:23.000Allegations that TikTok functions as a funnel to the Chinese government were nothing more than innuendo and conjecture, Paul charged.
01:03:29.000Likewise, a Justice Department memo supporting the TikTok bill last week vaguely alludes to the potential for the PRC China to influence content on TikTok.
01:03:38.000But so it's no concrete examples of this purported PRC manipulation ever happening.
01:03:42.000If that was the problem, you would have to examine and dismantle Meta, Facebook, Alphabet, Google, YouTube, because they're all using information to manipulate you.
01:03:53.000As they say these days, it's not a bug, it's a feature.
01:03:56.000That's precisely why these companies are so enormous and so powerful.
01:03:59.000Of course, they're advertising Well, on a monumental and unprecedented and bespoke scale.
01:04:04.000But the ability to identify individuals and control the information they see, whether it's buy these shoes or vote for this party, is exactly the function of those sites.
01:04:14.000And if this regulation was applied to any one of a number of social media platforms, unless they are front and centre all about free speech, then you would have to ban all of them.
01:04:23.000And that is a possibility, but I think what's probably more likely is ban all of them that are not supportive of the establishment agenda.
01:04:30.000The drive to ban TikTok has parallels to the European Union rushing to ban Russia Today and other Russian-owned media outlets after Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022.
01:04:39.000Thanks to the unique inheritances of the First Amendment, the US could not be so easily compelled to take such blunt-force censorship action, however ardently American political and media elites might have shared the anti-Russian sentiments of their EU counterparts.
01:04:51.000Those inheritances will surely be eroded if Congress plows ahead with its feverishly expedited TikTok ban.
01:04:58.000It's true that TikTok's content moderation falls in line with the wishes of Chinese censors.
01:05:02.000But again, foreign critics can say the same about US-based social media companies.
01:05:06.000The US government has infamously prodded tech companies to hand over user data both overtly and covertly.
01:05:12.000The US military and intelligence services even use advertising data to track potential targets.
01:05:17.000For years, several federal agencies have been spending U.S.
01:05:20.000tax dollars to buy American data from private bulk sellers.
01:05:23.000As some members of Congress seek a new law against the practice, the Joe Biden administration is pushing back on the effort to curtail the power to buy the information that would otherwise require a warrant.
01:05:34.000If that was true, if what they're saying about TikTok was true, why are they simultaneously doing the exact opposite elsewhere?
01:05:40.000They are resisting and lobbying to avoid a bill to prevent them buying literally your private data.
01:05:47.000What do you think they're doing with it?
01:05:48.000They're using it to track you, to manipulate you, to control you.
01:05:51.000We've reached the point, and perhaps all of us felt this a little, when we saw Vladimir Putin talking to Tucker Carlson.
01:05:57.000Vladimir Putin, he ain't the world's sweetest, loveliest guy.
01:06:11.000But curiously, because he's not in charge of a country that I live in, when he talks, I feel like the stuff you're saying makes more sense to me than the stuff they're saying.
01:06:19.000I've got no interest in invading all these other countries.
01:06:21.000Look, we're sort of in charge of this region.
01:06:33.000The reality that they send down a line to us or put out into the ether to us, and they don't want us having options because we know we wouldn't choose their one.
01:06:41.000The Biden administration has used the specter of disinformation to push social media moderation in line with their policies.
01:06:46.000Meta has censored Middle Eastern content that opposes U.S.
01:06:49.000foreign policy, while Twitter has previously created loopholes for the U.S.
01:06:53.000military to run its own propaganda accounts.
01:06:55.000Forcing TikTok under American control is a way to block that escape route.
01:06:59.000Instead of protecting Americans from Chinese censorship, it would bring Chinese-style censorship home and facilitate more of it.