Stay Free - Russel Brand - TRUMP INDICTMENT BOMBSHELL: Patrick Bet-David REACTS LIVE! - Stay Free #190

00:00:00.000 I'm going to play a little bit of this song.

00:00:42.000 Oh In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:00:51.000 Hello there, you awakening wonder.

00:00:54.000 Thanks for joining us on Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:00:56.000 I know how this works.

00:00:57.000 I can do it.

00:00:58.000 I can do it.

00:00:59.000 I'm an independent free thinker.

00:01:01.000 What does it want?

00:01:01.000 What's this bit?

00:01:02.000 This foam phallus?

00:01:04.000 What does it ask of me?

00:01:05.000 What are these vibrations that we interpret in our minds?

00:01:08.000 If you're watching us on YouTube, we'll be here for 15 minutes and you would miss out on my conversation with Patrick David who's joining us on a breaking news day.

00:01:18.000 He's getting indicted from every single direction.

00:01:22.000 I've never seen indictments rain down.

00:01:24.000 These indictments are burning and blazing like the neglected fires of Hawaii that are not being addressed and could be the result of infrastructure and you know there's some interesting theories about how those fires started and even if they didn't start as a result of Bill Gates' space laser, which there's, let's face it, no evidence for.

00:01:42.000 Certainly elite interests benefit from disasters like this one.

00:01:47.000 In fact, every disaster appears to benefit a particular strata of society.

00:01:54.000 Why could that be?

00:01:56.000 It's just one of the questions I'll be talking to Patrick Bet-David on.

00:01:59.000 So if you're about, so if you're watching this on YouTube, there's a link in the description.

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00:02:11.000 What happens is I keep drinking these energy drinks.

00:02:13.000 Oh no, it's happened again.

00:02:14.000 I drank down... I've swilled down some of these... How much have you had?

00:02:16.000 You've had a gallon of the stuff.

00:02:18.000 I've been brewing me own kombucha down in the cellar.

00:02:21.000 Vile slops, we're calling it. 1.00

00:02:22.000 It's our new energy drink.

00:02:23.000 We're going to compete with Logan Paul, ain't we?

00:02:25.000 Of course we are.

00:02:26.000 Vile slops! 1.00

00:02:28.000 They're good for you.

00:02:29.000 Yeah.

00:02:30.000 But listen, we can't get into my latest enterprise about drinking a culture nurtured in a cellar, stinking stuff.

00:02:36.000 Let's instead focus on these ongoing indictments.

00:02:39.000 We have a look at Hillary Clinton's impartial reaction when she was asked about it.

00:02:45.000 Watch the... I mean, look.

00:02:47.000 Well, part of the problem with these indictments, whether the charges that are being proffered are true or not, the simple fact is no one trusts the surrounding systems, judicial, electoral or political.

00:03:01.000 So it's astonishing to see Hillary Clinton and Rachel Maddow chatting about this as if there's naught but ubiquitous approval to be gleaned, as if Hillary Clinton didn't participate in Russiagate.

00:03:13.000 As if even in the state of Georgia, Stacey Abrams, a Democrat candidate, didn't say, this is an election that we will be disputing, rejecting.

00:03:22.000 And more specifically, she said, we won.

00:03:25.000 Accusing, claiming electoral fraud.

00:03:29.000 So let's have a look at Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:03:30.000 Steal yourselves for it if you're not a fan of Hillary, because it'll rile you up. 1.00

00:03:34.000 Let's have a look.

00:03:36.000 Madam Secretary, fancy meeting you here.

00:03:38.000 Oh, I can't believe this.

00:03:39.000 Yeah, this is not the circumstances in which I expected to be talking to you.

00:03:44.000 Really pleased with themselves and one another, are they?

00:03:47.000 I thought you were here just for me to promote you, to promote your new book and your course at the university.

00:03:52.000 What about your courses at university?

00:03:54.000 What about your book?

00:03:55.000 What about your involvement in the Iraq war?

00:03:57.000 What about the confederation that you have with your husband, Bill, that seems to raise a lot of money?

00:04:02.000 There are so many questions that Rachel Maddow could be asking but isn't asking.

00:04:07.000 And isn't that the problem with the mainstream media?

00:04:09.000 It's the inquiries that they don't pursue.

00:04:12.000 It's the acknowledgements that they don't offer us.

00:04:14.000 I mean, those of you that are watching us on YouTube, part of our army of 6.5 million awakening wonders, you'll still be able to research that famous clip where Rachel Maddow says, if you take it, that's it.

00:04:27.000 It stops with you.

00:04:28.000 You'll still be able to see Hillary Clinton claiming that Russiagate is a real thing rather than a hoax.

00:04:34.000 And Rachel Maddow.

00:04:35.000 All of them. 0.99

00:04:36.000 The whole damn conglomerate claiming that, which amounts to, I would say, intervention in elections. 0.99

00:04:43.000 Certainly Russiagate amounted to that. 0.98

00:04:46.000 So when there is no moral authority, how can you condemn somebody for acting in alignment, even then that's the nature of these accusations, with an already corrupted and broken system?

00:04:57.000 I mean, that's only five seconds in.

00:04:57.000 Let's have a look.

00:04:58.000 We're outraged.

00:04:59.000 Let's look at it a little more.

00:05:00.000 For me, Rachel, it's always good to talk to you, but honestly, there's going to be no challenging questions.

00:05:08.000 I didn't think that it would be under these circumstances.

00:05:12.000 Yet another set of indictments.

00:05:15.000 Do you Clinton talks as if there's no one in the world that regards her as the very epitome of an establishment career politician.

00:05:23.000 The very cause of a figure like Trump.

00:05:26.000 The very cause of the mistrust and anti-establishment fervour that many of us feel.

00:05:31.000 The reason that Trump can say, I'm probably one indictment away from a landslide if they keep giving me these indictments, this election's in the bag.

00:05:39.000 Because he knows that the more that he's regarded as an anti-establishment figure, the more popular he becomes.

00:05:45.000 And to see the kind of self-congratulatory manner of this conversation shows you how we have these two separate ideological camps that are oblivious of one another's existence, except when it comes to condemning them, and no acknowledgement of their own failings and flaws.

00:06:02.000 These are the kind of spiritual principles that I have to run my own life on.

00:06:05.000 personal fallibility, willingness to change, willing to listen to and acknowledge other

00:06:09.000 people's perspectives. Without those tools you're just going to have ossified camps.

00:06:13.000 Yeah also isn't part of the deal with like CNN and MSNBC why they say oh we're so much

00:06:17.000 better than Fox because we're meant to be impartial. I mean if you're impartial in a

00:06:21.000 case against Donald Trump and you get on Hillary Clinton it doesn't show you to be all that

00:06:25.000 impartial in my opinion. Is that the most impartial person you could summons up from

00:06:30.000 Hades that day? You feel satisfaction in that?

00:06:36.000 You warned the country, essentially, that he was going to try to end democracy, but most of the country didn't believe you.

00:06:41.000 Well, it's hard to believe.

00:06:43.000 I don't feel any satisfaction.

00:06:44.000 I feel great, you know.

00:06:47.000 Great!

00:06:48.000 I just feel great that this is happening.

00:06:49.000 For the first time in my life, I look right.

00:06:52.000 Not since Bill marched in with that cigar and she wandered out in that blue dress have I ever felt more like my intuition was serving me well.

00:07:01.000 Just great, profound sadness.

00:07:03.000 He set out to defraud the United States of America and the citizens of our nation.

00:07:11.000 If it's a fraudulent and corrupt system, if you have a media that continually lies to you, if you have stories about the Hunter Biden laptop withheld because it might sway the election, when we spoke to Vivek Ramaswamy last week, he said the election was stolen.

00:07:24.000 Stolen by big tech.

00:07:25.000 Stolen by a propagandized system.

00:07:28.000 But, you know, we're talking about defrauding America, defrauding the country.

00:07:31.000 What was Russiagate?

00:07:32.000 I mean, that's literally exactly what Russiagate was.

00:07:34.000 It was defrauding the American public.

00:07:36.000 So there you are.

00:07:37.000 How can there be any moral authority without transparency, without clarity, and without willingness to acknowledge your own failings?

00:07:45.000 But I don't know that anybody should be satisfied.

00:07:47.000 This is a terrible moment for our country to have a former president accused of these terribly important crimes.

00:07:59.000 The only satisfaction may be that the system is working.

00:08:03.000 Oh, the system's working fine.

00:08:06.000 Let's have a look at the poll we did a little earlier.

00:08:08.000 We asked you outright, who do you think should be indicted?

00:08:12.000 Joe Biden or Donald Trump?

00:08:14.000 And we were astonished.

00:08:15.000 Just astonished to learn that 93% of the 48,000 of you that voted said Joe Biden.

00:08:24.000 I mean, it's extraordinary.

00:08:26.000 It seems like there are several different electorates out there and several different electoral

00:08:31.000 Amazing.

00:08:31.000 mechanisms.

00:08:32.000 The results are very surprising.

00:08:33.000 There's this line from the Washington Examiner article today,

00:08:35.000 President Biden and former President Donald Trump are now in a legal death match

00:08:38.000 where for either of the ones to stay out of prison, the opponent will probably go to prison.

00:08:42.000 I mean, what a mad situation we find ourselves in.

00:08:44.000 We've got presidents that are fighting each other using prison.

00:08:48.000 That's what your democracy has come to, America.

00:08:51.000 Now we've got our flaws over here in the UK.

00:08:53.000 We keep putting people up on golden chairs with golden hats on and saying that they're better than us.

00:08:58.000 They're getting older by the day.

00:09:00.000 I suppose everyone's getting older by the day, but it doesn't seem like a particularly responsible system.

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00:09:46.000 Patrick Bet-David entrepreneur and host of Valuetainment.

00:09:50.000 Thank you Patrick for making time for us today we're thrilled to have you. It's great to

00:09:54.000 be on with you. It's a historic day.

00:09:58.000 Do you agree that it is a prison death match that we're involved in?

00:10:01.000 Do you think that either Biden or Trump has to go to jail?

00:10:04.000 That, like Highlander, there can be only one?

00:10:09.000 Listen, it's pretty wild what's going on, but, you know, there's a lot of different scenarios that could go on.

00:10:15.000 I think at the beginning, when this was going on, there were signs of people not thinking it's going to be Trump and Biden.

00:10:21.000 And one was Newsom, and the other one was DeSantis.

00:10:24.000 This is what I'm convinced I could be wrong.

00:10:27.000 If you remember, DeSantis' cam didn't come out the gate strong.

00:10:30.000 They were kind of like holding off and coming out when he did his book launch.

00:10:34.000 It wasn't a book launch.

00:10:35.000 I'm not convinced, you know, their strategy was thinking Trump's not going to make it at the end.

00:10:41.000 Maybe somebody came and whispered to them and said, listen, Trump's not going to be at the end.

00:10:44.000 You're most likely going to be the nominee.

00:10:46.000 And on the other side, they went to Newsom and they said, hey, Newsom, play loyal.

00:10:52.000 Loyal as much as possible.

00:10:54.000 Here's why.

00:10:55.000 The more you say Biden's done a great job, Biden's a great president, Biden's this, the moment he steps out and he's not in it anymore, Biden, the market's gonna say, look how loyal Newsom was to Biden, but look how disloyal DeSantis was to Trump, and then boom, Newsom becomes a president.

00:11:16.000 So that's one of the things that we have to keep in mind that could be the scenario.

00:11:20.000 The other one is the fact that the Democrats are sitting there waiting for Michelle Obama or somebody to get in the race.

00:11:26.000 They keep writing articles to see if she's going to bite. 1.00

00:11:28.000 Is she going to get in it or not? 0.98

00:11:29.000 Because if they don't, and they timed us the wrong way with Biden, Can you imagine if RFK becomes a candidate for them on the left and if Vivek passes up the Santas?

00:11:41.000 It's a very weird, unpredictable election.

00:11:44.000 So whenever you watch in sports, you want it to be a Super Bowl or a final that you don't know who's going to win it.

00:11:50.000 This is one of those that there's a lot of possibilities of who could end up winning the year from now.

00:11:55.000 What concerns me, Patrick, perhaps more than anything, is that there is so much cynicism about our political processes and systems right now.

00:12:05.000 There's no one that has any real trust in electoral democracy.

00:12:09.000 No one has any trust in the judiciary.

00:12:12.000 Whatever happens in 2024, the side that loses is going to declare that it was a fraudulent election.

00:12:18.000 You can almost guarantee it. There are new independent media voices

00:12:23.000 emerging and like both you and I are part of that movement and there

00:12:27.000 perhaps is a requirement for independent political figures or at least

00:12:30.000 renegades within the system like RFK. I wonder mate if you feel that that's to

00:12:36.000 some degree because just take this current story the wildfires raging across

00:12:41.000 Hawaii that already a subject to considerable pontification

00:12:46.000 And many people are entertaining pretty extraordinary conspiracy theories that it was started deliberately by lasers that Bill Gates benefits.

00:12:54.000 One of the reasons I think these conspiracies gain traction is because it does look like There will be powerful interests that will benefit from those fires when Hawaii, that particular island, is rebuilt.

00:13:06.000 And when Joe Biden is unable to offer a comment when directly asked, it shows the inefficiency and ineptitude of our current, or your, I'm not American, your current president.

00:13:18.000 I wonder if this cynicism is therefore And whether any political candidate, other than the sort of outlier renegades that we've already touched upon, can do anything to change and improve such atrophying and broken systems.

00:13:35.000 It's going to be tough because, one, you're going up against a machine that knows how to ruin your life and has got all the weapons in the world to ruin your life.

00:13:45.000 If they want to target somebody, they can throw everything at you.

00:13:49.000 For the longest time, the way you did it historically, if you wanted to eliminate an opponent, you did it the way Ecuador just did it. 0.83

00:14:00.000 That's the old school way, right? 0.95

00:14:02.000 You just get rid of them and Blame a shooter and then make sure you bring the shooter to the office and then you shoot the shooter. 0.96

00:14:10.000 So the guy that you may have paid off to shoot a Republican presidential candidate in Ecuador, make sure you eliminate the shooter as well. 0.96

00:14:17.000 That's happened before with John F. Kennedy, with Jack Ruby, and then boom.

00:14:21.000 You know, with Lee Harvey Oswald, and then Jack Ruby takes him out, so Lee Harvey Oswald's not there.

00:14:27.000 Was he a former CIA asset?

00:14:29.000 If we think about what's happened from the 60s till today, for Americans to no longer trust their government, it's very, very well deserved.

00:14:38.000 John F.K's assassination, we still don't fully know what's going on from the government telling us the story.

00:14:42.000 Why don't you want us to know?

00:14:44.000 What will be the problem?

00:14:45.000 Is LBJ is going to be looked frowned upon?

00:14:48.000 Is he going to be seen as a guy that right in front of John FK's wife he wants to be sworn in immediately?

00:14:54.000 Why are you so ambitious?

00:14:55.000 Her husband just died and you're standing there doing this kind of weird isn't it what you got going or dullest The folks from Texas? 0.99

00:15:02.000 Or some of the people that didn't know where they were at when JFK was assassinated?

00:15:06.000 These are great questions to be asking until today.

00:15:09.000 People are still wondering.

00:15:10.000 But at first, everybody trusted the government and said, hey, you know, it's the shooter.

00:15:14.000 That's what it was.

00:15:15.000 You know, it's the that's what happened.

00:15:17.000 He's dead.

00:15:17.000 Government would never do something like this.

00:15:18.000 So Americans believed in it more and more and more eventually.

00:15:21.000 I don't know about this.

00:15:22.000 Then 9-11 happens.

00:15:25.000 Yeah, you know, weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass destruction, and then boom, there was no weapons of mass destruction.

00:15:33.000 What are we doing spending all this money?

00:15:34.000 So decade after decade after decade, the U.S.

00:15:38.000 government has had opportunities to win the people over and they've lost.

00:15:45.000 And we are now at the lowest level.

00:15:47.000 So if the U.S.

00:15:48.000 government had a credit score, You know, in America, when you want to buy a house, you have to have a credit score of 720 and up to get a decent, you know, rate and all this stuff.

00:15:56.000 If we go based on a perfect score is an 820, give or take 850 is a perfect score.

00:16:01.000 The US government's credit score right now is a 450.

00:16:04.000 No one trusts them.

00:16:05.000 No one does.

00:16:06.000 And say we do get somebody to get in there.

00:16:09.000 What needs to happen?

00:16:10.000 Um, one, you and I know this, term limits, it's just not going to work out.

00:16:14.000 Guys are staying there, looking at presidents coming and saying, this guy's only going to be here for four years anyways, max eight years.

00:16:19.000 We're going to be here for 20 to 30 years.

00:16:21.000 Don't worry about this guy.

00:16:22.000 Let's tolerate him for, you know, four to eight years.

00:16:25.000 Eventually he's going to be gone.

00:16:26.000 We'll be running this place.

00:16:27.000 So I don't blame the American people for feeling this way, but I will say this to you, Russell.

00:16:32.000 Think about, like, when I know you, I know you through Sarah Marshall.

00:16:37.000 Which, by the way, man, you crushed it in Sarah Marshall, right? 0.62

00:16:40.000 Thank you.

00:16:42.000 Not the shirt, you know, all the lines with, you know, the inside of you, all this stuff.

00:16:48.000 When I look at you, I remember I was in San Francisco.

00:16:51.000 I saw Billboard says, I hate Sarah Marshall. 1.00

00:16:54.000 I'm like, babe, is somebody running for office?

00:16:56.000 They hate the Sarah Marshall girl.

00:16:58.000 I go and watch the movie.

00:16:59.000 You made the movie with Mila Kunis.

00:17:02.000 It was an incredible movie, but that's who you were in my eyes.

00:17:05.000 And then all of a sudden I'm like, wait a minute, what's he doing?

00:17:08.000 Why is he talking about this kind of stuff?

00:17:10.000 Why is he?

00:17:10.000 He shouldn't do this stuff because if he does, does he realize Hollywood's never gonna hire him again?

00:17:16.000 But why is he going through this?

00:17:17.000 This is a risk. 0.99

00:17:19.000 Hollywood should have a guy like this by the balls. 1.00

00:17:21.000 They should control him. 0.99

00:17:22.000 He shouldn't go out there and talk boldly like this.

00:17:25.000 Why is he doing this?

00:17:27.000 He's not even in America.

00:17:28.000 He's... I can't understand this part.

00:17:30.000 And then here's what we realize.

00:17:32.000 This is what's going on today, Russell, which is a beautiful thing.

00:17:36.000 There's guys like you who sacrificed a career in what many would dream about being in big movies, big shows, the beautiful Hollywood stars, the women, the girls, the partying.

00:17:52.000 You gave all of that stuff up to do this.

00:17:55.000 Why would you do that?

00:17:56.000 Does this pay you more than movies?

00:17:58.000 What is the motive?

00:17:59.000 And then somebody would say, man, that's a big 180.

00:18:03.000 The point I'm trying to make is the following.

00:18:05.000 I believe true believers are waking up and they're finding each other.

00:18:09.000 If there was no social media and podcasting, the chances of you and I, me from the insurance industry, and you from Hollywood doing a show like this would probably be zero.

00:18:20.000 But today, a guy like you who chose to leave the, you know, Hollywood industry, and maybe you're still doing stuff, but where you were at before, Or me saying, you know what?

00:18:30.000 I'm sick and tired of what's going on in America.

00:18:32.000 I got four kids, an 11-year-old, 9, 7, 2.

00:18:34.000 I can't sit on the sidelines and just count my money.

00:18:37.000 I want to get involved.

00:18:38.000 We're forcing people to have to answer questions, whether it's ESG, whether it's term limits, whether it's the, you know, what they're doing with their elections that they're saying don't talk about it.

00:18:48.000 And then eventually YouTube's coming back and saying, well, we were giving strikes.

00:18:52.000 We were saying you can't talk about it.

00:18:53.000 Now you can.

00:18:54.000 Now we're no longer taking those videos off.

00:18:57.000 It's because of us talking and the louder we get I think those types of candidates are going to show up to be able to synergize America and take it more in the direction that it needs to go to.

00:19:07.000 I think you're right Patrick, thanks for the various compliments embedded in that answer.

00:19:12.000 What I sense is that independent media and independent politics will mesh going forward.

00:19:19.000 You'll find that people from these kind of media spaces will start standing for office,

00:19:24.000 that there will be alliances between emergent political voices and media.

00:19:29.000 I mean, it's already happening.

00:19:31.000 We have a great relationship, for example, with RFK, starting a relationship with you.

00:19:35.000 We already have a good relationship with Tucker.

00:19:37.000 I know you spoke to Vivek Ramaswamy, and they are geared up.

00:19:41.000 You can see even technically they're geared up to come on these shows now.

00:19:45.000 Their technical setup demonstrates that they're invested in this type of media,

00:19:51.000 that this type of media is a requirement.

00:19:53.000 In fact, Trump's ascent was somewhat built on his ability to bypass traditional media outlets

00:20:00.000 and the centralized gatekeepers of what are commonly regarded as

00:20:04.000 legacy media. So do you feel beyond an ability to host conversations, Patrick, in this space,

00:20:11.000 an obligation to get involved in electoral politics, either by supporting preferred candidates

00:20:18.000 or even by getting involved with politics more directly?

00:20:22.000 Yeah, for me, I think we all are playing a different role with our background.

00:20:27.000 Me, I'm a guy that doesn't like bullies, and I think a lot of these guys have been bullying the American people.

00:20:32.000 America's been, in my opinion, the greatest country in the world.

00:20:35.000 I lived in Iran 10 years.

00:20:37.000 My mother was a communist.

00:20:38.000 Her family, all communists.

00:20:40.000 My dad, they were all imperialists.

00:20:42.000 And the dream was to one day come to America.

00:20:44.000 We escape Iran, we go to Germany. 0.99

00:20:46.000 I live in a refugee camp for a couple years.

00:20:48.000 Then I come to the States here, then I joined the Army, and then I go into business, I go into finance, and then I build an insurance company and it grows, and then I sell the insurance company.

00:20:57.000 Last year we licensed roughly 45, 46,000 insurance agents nationwide, and part-time I start creating content.

00:21:05.000 And then now it's turned into a media company, consulting from all these things that it's doing.

00:21:10.000 The best part about Avengers is everybody has their own superpower.

00:21:14.000 We're not all going to have the same superpower.

00:21:16.000 We're all going to have our own independent way of giving our messages.

00:21:19.000 Your angle is going to go from a different angle.

00:21:20.000 Mine's going to go from a different place.

00:21:22.000 Ben's going to go from a different place.

00:21:24.000 Tucker's going to go a different place.

00:21:25.000 Elon's playing a different role.

00:21:26.000 Joe's playing a different role.

00:21:28.000 Jordan's playing a different role.

00:21:29.000 All these folks, everyone's playing a role.

00:21:31.000 But even Chris is playing a different role from Rumble.

00:21:34.000 Everybody is playing a different role in this taking place.

00:21:38.000 But what is happening Is we're finding each other and we're also inspiring others to say I want to get in the ring as well.

00:21:45.000 And then they're going to bring their superpower to this look.

00:21:49.000 You know, long term for me, you know, what we're going to be doing, I'm not born in the States, I can't run for office.

00:21:56.000 For me, it's going to be more about building a media company and disrupting this entire thing that's taking place.

00:22:00.000 I think this is going to be the last election, if you ask me, where the traditional way of running for office is going to be used.

00:22:08.000 I think this is it.

00:22:09.000 So I think that the model of what some of these guys like, let's just say DeSantis is using the people from Ted Cruz's camp, And they're just getting the big mainstream media places to go to, and RFK is disrupting it, Vivek is disrupting it.

00:22:23.000 Some of these guys are disrupting it in ways that you're sitting there saying, he's doing three podcasts a day, you're going on CNN once a week, or you're going on Fox twice a week.

00:22:32.000 That guy doing three, four, five podcasts a day is going to school you, because he's going to be everywhere.

00:22:37.000 We ran the data, Russell, very interesting data we ran when I had Vivek at the Town Hall, from January of this year, January of this year till the Town Hall, which was two weeks ago with Vivek, to see whose Twitter followers has increased the most from January of this year to end of July, the numbers.

00:23:00.000 Mike Pence was the only one whose Twitter followers decreased.

00:23:04.000 Okay?

00:23:05.000 His Twitter followers decreased 3%.

00:23:07.000 You know what that's telling you?

00:23:08.000 America doesn't like Pence. 0.86

00:23:09.000 America likes Pence less today than they did 7 months ago.

00:23:13.000 I don't know why, but data doesn't lie.

00:23:16.000 Then it was small percentages of Nikki Haley growing, small percentages of, you know, some of these guys.

00:23:21.000 Tim Scott had a good amount of growth.

00:23:23.000 DeSantis has some growth.

00:23:25.000 But the only one that grew in 100 plus percent was Vivek.

00:23:29.000 He was in the 389 percent.

00:23:31.000 I think he's about to cross a million followers on Twitter.

00:23:34.000 A year ago, nobody knew who Vivek was.

00:23:36.000 The only people a year ago that knew who Vivek was, was his wife.

00:23:40.000 His family, his co-workers, his colleagues, classmates, and relatives.

00:23:44.000 Today, everyone's like, why is this guy everywhere?

00:23:46.000 A year ago, you've talked to RFK before.

00:23:49.000 I've had RFK on multiple times.

00:23:51.000 Did you ever think about RFK is going to run for office one day?

00:23:54.000 Like, did you ever sit there and say, I think this guy's going to run for president.

00:23:58.000 That's probably not somebody we thought is going to run for president, let alone run for president and create the kind of momentum that he's created.

00:24:06.000 This is all a beautiful sign that the control is coming back to us.

00:24:12.000 You and I, regular people who are not controlled by mainstream media, that are going out there and saying, I got basic questions for you.

00:24:19.000 I want to talk to you.

00:24:20.000 I want my audience to hear from you.

00:24:21.000 What do you think about this?

00:24:22.000 What do you think about that?

00:24:23.000 This is very... I just had a guy on a podcast this morning, Avi Loeb.

00:24:27.000 He's a Israeli... He's a Jewish...

00:24:31.000 Scientists at Harvard who investigates what's going on in the cosmos, aliens, all this stuff.

00:24:36.000 That's kind of what he does.

00:24:38.000 And, you know, we talked about the establishment of scientists.

00:24:42.000 Because scientists, you know, they don't believe in God because many scientists want to be God.

00:24:47.000 Because God forbid scientists get anything wrong.

00:24:49.000 They know it all, right?

00:24:50.000 You can't debate a scientist.

00:24:51.000 You know, there's a guy named Tony.

00:24:53.000 I don't know if you heard about this guy.

00:24:54.000 The last three years, he was 100% right.

00:24:57.000 He would never be wrong.

00:24:58.000 And he was a scientist.

00:24:59.000 Trust the science.

00:25:00.000 And he said the establishment scientists don't like debate.

00:25:04.000 They're being forced now to debate because it's either the government investigating aliens, it's either professors investigating at universities, or it's private, right?

00:25:12.000 We're talking about it.

00:25:13.000 They have to give an answer.

00:25:15.000 Us doing what we're doing, we're pissing off the establishment mainstream media.

00:25:19.000 And I got to tell you, it's a beautiful thing.

00:25:22.000 Yeah, even when you think about in the world of entertainment,

00:25:25.000 the phenomena around sound of freedom shows that a film can be financed via a crowd,

00:25:30.000 promoted via new media, can have topics and subjects that while they might once have been considered worthy of Disney,

00:25:37.000 because I believe they for a moment owned that script and were across that project,

00:25:41.000 ultimately it's not something they wanted to bring to air and there are a host of reasons for that.

00:25:46.000 Some people terrifyingly think that even the subject of the movie was part of the reason for the reticence to release

00:25:52.000 But what it shows us from a media perspective and a business perspective is that there are now,

00:25:52.000 it.

00:25:57.000 that we are as you say, now at a tipping point where there are sufficient people interested in hearing information

00:26:04.000 that isn't filtered in the same way, isn't biased in the same way, hasn't been sanctioned by the sort of elite

00:26:09.000 interests that presumably would have put men like you and I on

00:26:13.000 opposing sides once upon a time.

00:26:15.000 Your background is in finance, I'm fascinated by your personal story and I'd love to get into that a little more.

00:26:21.000 But the fact that, you know, a little while ago I would have been regarded as, and was openly called in fact,

00:26:26.000 like a sort of a woolly liberal, sometimes even a communist.

00:26:29.000 But what I've always been is anti-establishment, pro-individual freedom.

00:26:34.000 I've always been in favour of people being able to be who they are and live their lives how they want to.

00:26:34.000 I've always been in favor of people being able to be who they are and live their lives how they want to.

00:26:39.000 I've always been in favor of people being able to run their communities with as little intervention

00:26:43.000 from the state and with as little disruption from private corrupt Goliath interests as possible.

00:26:49.000 But it seems now that there is more opportunity for new alliances, whether it's in the world

00:26:54.000 of entertainment and media or politically.

00:26:57.000 And I suppose what you're saying is that we're gonna see more of that and it's gonna be more effective

00:27:01.000 and even the candidacy of Vivek and the candidacy of RFK demonstrates that it's becoming effective

00:27:08.000 in political spaces and Sound of Freedom shows it's effective in media spaces.

00:27:13.000 So I guess what you're saying is we're going to see a lot more of this.

00:27:15.000 Where in particular do you think it's going to be pronounced, Patrick?

00:27:19.000 Uh, in regards to what?

00:27:21.000 More of people like us rising up?

00:27:23.000 Like what industry?

00:27:23.000 Yeah, what industries do you imagine are going to be most meaningfully disrupted?

00:27:27.000 Would you say entertainment, media, politics?

00:27:31.000 Yes, so I'll give you a couple of them.

00:27:33.000 So let's go through one of them.

00:27:34.000 Look at Hollywood.

00:27:35.000 Most people don't realize that this whole concept, why we call it Hollywood, Hollywood was never Hollywood.

00:27:41.000 Hollywood was in Jersey, being ran by a guy named Thomas Edison, and Thomas Edison controlled all the actors and actresses.

00:27:49.000 Eventually, They decided to leave Jersey and go to Hollywood because they revolted against the establishment at the time Edison was establishment, and they went to Hollywood and started making movies in Hollywood.

00:28:01.000 Burbank.

00:28:02.000 They went away from Jersey.

00:28:02.000 That's what they did.

00:28:05.000 Hollywood forgot that that's why they're in Hollywood.

00:28:07.000 Now they're going to be leaving Hollywood and going elsewhere.

00:28:09.000 And by the way, This whole strike thing that's going on and you know all the AI fears that they have and you know with Bob Iger and going back and forth with writers now it's been what two months I think a little over two months I think the last time Jimmy Kimmel or Jimmy Fallon did a show was May 12th or May 14th some number like that they have not done a show because they can't they don't have the writers to do it right so they're on a strike you're seeing the strikes taking place in a few different industries but Hollywood's going through a disruption in a very different way

00:28:39.000 There's this lady actress, I'm sure you know who she is, who's playing Snow White. 0.96

00:28:43.000 I don't remember her name.

00:28:44.000 But she's sitting there saying, the new Snow White we're making is not the same Snow White of 1937.

00:28:49.000 It's a different kind of a Snow White.

00:28:51.000 There is not really a love story.

00:28:52.000 Maybe you want to call it that, but there's not.

00:28:54.000 Because women are now independent, and they're this, and they're that, and they're this. 1.00

00:28:59.000 I posed the question to Bob Iger yesterday on Twitter, and I said, Bob, I know for a fact you're a smart CEO.

00:29:07.000 I've read your book.

00:29:08.000 You're a very smart guy.

00:29:09.000 I have a hard time believing you think this is a good idea.

00:29:13.000 This is costing you generations of loyal viewers who followed Disney.

00:29:20.000 At what cost?

00:29:21.000 At an ESG score?

00:29:23.000 At the funding for us to get the best institutional money?

00:29:27.000 From Black Rock, State Street, and Vanguard.

00:29:30.000 For what?

00:29:30.000 Because you're planning on breaking apart Disney and selling ESPN?

00:29:34.000 And you're gonna sell a couple of the legs?

00:29:36.000 And you forgot about what Walt's vision was?

00:29:38.000 What this whole concept of Disney was?

00:29:40.000 What we grew up with these movies?

00:29:42.000 Snow White was a girl's dream growing up to find a man that's gonna kiss her and fall in love.

00:29:47.000 And now we're looking at courting as stalking?

00:29:50.000 That's a bad thing nowadays.

00:29:52.000 Men are afraid to court because that's what is considered nowadays. 1.00

00:29:55.000 A man's man today who stands up and defends his family and takes care of his wife and his kids.

00:30:00.000 That's toxic masculinity. 1.00

00:30:03.000 All this nonsense.

00:30:04.000 We cannot be buying into this kind of stuff because contradictions are now starting to show up.

00:30:09.000 And even guys like that, they're going to figure it out.

00:30:11.000 So it's going to happen in Hollywood.

00:30:12.000 It's going to happen with ESG.

00:30:14.000 One of the concerns that you talk about a lot, which you and I are on the same page with, with this whole thing with military-industrial complex that Eisenhower prepared us for, for a long time ago, and Kennedy followed suit, and then we're realizing now what's going on with, you know, the concepts are very simple.

00:30:29.000 I'm a capitalist.

00:30:30.000 I run businesses.

00:30:31.000 So, for example, you know how shows work.

00:30:34.000 You're not with Rumble.

00:30:35.000 The more eyeballs you get, The more comments you get, the more subs you get, the better you can ask for sponsorship.

00:30:42.000 The deals can be bigger.

00:30:44.000 So if Joe got a massive deal from Spotify, it's because Joe gets eyeballs.

00:30:48.000 It's capitalism.

00:30:48.000 Spotify is willing to pay the money because Joe runs a number one podcast in 94 different countries on Spotify, okay?

00:30:55.000 He's got the number two most female listeners worldwide and he's not a female, you know, podcast as Joe running his podcast.

00:31:02.000 What's the moral of the story?

00:31:04.000 The basic concept of capitalism, if Russell, you and I own five hotels in UK, we own five hotels in Miami, we would want to know a couple numbers.

00:31:16.000 One number we want to know is how many rooms do we have, what is the price per room that we're renting out, and we want as many rooms To be rented as possible, right?

00:31:30.000 So if we got 2,000 total rooms, and we're sitting there saying, hey, Russell, good day today.

00:31:34.000 We're texting at night.

00:31:35.000 Hey, just got a report from our COO.

00:31:37.000 Out of our five hotels, 2,000 rooms, 1,873 was used today.

00:31:42.000 Good day.

00:31:43.000 90 plus percent.

00:31:44.000 Boom.

00:31:45.000 Text back.

00:31:45.000 Awesome.

00:31:46.000 Fantastic.

00:31:47.000 Hey, today was a shitty day.

00:31:48.000 Out of our 2,000 rooms, only 800 rooms were taken. 0.67

00:31:51.000 Kind of a rough day on Wednesday night. 0.98

00:31:52.000 Damn, what are we doing about it? 0.97

00:31:53.000 We're having a call tomorrow morning. 0.99

00:31:53.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:31:55.000 OK, if we ran a hospital, we own five of them.

00:31:59.000 What what allows us to make more money if we have five hospitals and we got 2000 beds?

00:32:04.000 We need more sick people.

00:32:05.000 Think about that for a second. 0.93

00:32:06.000 The incentive is more sick people.

00:32:09.000 per hospital bed, that a person stays there, we make $440 up to $1,800 a night in America, the more people are sick.

00:32:19.000 So is the business model, more sick people, more money we make?

00:32:22.000 Yes.

00:32:22.000 So why would we want people to have better diet?

00:32:25.000 And no, we don't need that. 0.98

00:32:26.000 We need people to eat shitty food. 0.95

00:32:28.000 We need people to not take care of themselves because we need people to come here or else we'll go out of business. 1.00

00:32:33.000 So watch the next one here.

00:32:36.000 All right.

00:32:36.000 So, military.

00:32:38.000 What is the concept of Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, you know, General Dynamics and all these guys?

00:32:43.000 Well, if we look at the top institutional money they're getting is also from who?

00:32:48.000 Same three people.

00:32:49.000 You know these names, BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard.

00:32:52.000 Top three out of four on almost every one of those four companies I mentioned.

00:32:56.000 They need more wars because more wars equals more money.

00:33:01.000 More money equals more profit.

00:33:04.000 And then we could be the savior, and all of a sudden, Chase and BlackRock sign a $400 billion contract to fix and help rebuild Ukraine.

00:33:14.000 So these are industries that the more we talk about this stuff, people start questioning it.

00:33:19.000 And they're going to have to pivot.

00:33:20.000 And you're starting to see, S&P says, we're no longer looking at your ESG score.

00:33:25.000 And McDonald's removed every single word on their website of ESG.

00:33:29.000 We're making progress.

00:33:30.000 So there's going to be a lot of different industries will be disrupted the more we talk about it.

00:33:33.000 Patrick, as a self-declared capitalist, how do you, using just the metaphor that you just laid out for us, one area, hotels, where it's sort of like a business that doesn't require sickness or exploitation or war, seems like a legitimate endeavor that provides a service.

00:33:53.000 How do we, where are the lines drawn between a capitalism that's built on the free market service of people that require a product and capitalism that Cap sizes social models such as in your example where a healthcare system requires sickness and you can see how big food require that we eat processed sugars and and seed oils and food that we know make us sick and yet we're not given the correct information about that food and those foods are proliferated and a big farmer industry that is self-regulating

00:34:24.000 And only benefits if there are a sufficient number of people sick and if they can and they're able to propagate their products and a war industry that requires ongoing conflict and death at the heart of its economic model. 0.66

00:34:37.000 How do we ensure and how do we indeed segregate capitalism which is about providing a service whether that's a media service or some other commodity to a willing consensual public and the kind of capitalism that plainly is pulling the strings of Political apparent public servants that fund both the Democrat Party and Republican Party, that require war, that require sickness, that have essentially bought and paid for our political process.

00:35:04.000 How do we draw that distinction?

00:35:05.000 Because I think a lot of people that are cynical about what you might call right-wing politics are cynical on it on the basis of, you know, I'm sure there are cultural and social issues, yes, you know, we've covered those, but economically the idea that The market should govern has clearly gotten to a point where we have got a kind of metastasized capitalism precisely in the form that you're describing where Black Rock Vanguard et al are able to a good political situations that are detrimental to ordinary people and yet beneficial to elites even with this Hawaii story you get the sense that already ordinary working people that come from families that are recognizable to most of us will probably suffer and

00:35:46.000 There will be assets available and real estate available for people that want high-end properties.

00:35:52.000 Where do you draw the distinction?

00:35:54.000 What type of regulation does that require?

00:35:56.000 And what type of conversation around moral capitalism ought we be having, Patrick?

00:36:01.000 Fantastic question you're asking.

00:36:03.000 First of all, you know, it's kind of weird with this whole Hawaii thing, where we're willing to send $100, $150 billion to Ukraine, but the president doesn't want to make a comment on Maui.

00:36:11.000 And somehow, some way, certain homes weren't affected by it, as if they got better sprinklers than the other houses.

00:36:17.000 And at the same time, these fires that came in and hit up, the people that lost their homes,

00:36:21.000 they're getting callers from realtors, local investors saying, hey, are you willing to sell your land?

00:36:26.000 I'll buy it from you.

00:36:28.000 These are the types of things where we're learning about the fabric of the character of people

00:36:33.000 on how they're exploiting people.

00:36:35.000 But let me give you an answer to that question.

00:36:37.000 So I'm in the insurance space.

00:36:39.000 The benefit about being in the life insurance space is we study numbers of life expectancy.

00:36:46.000 For example, life insurance today is the cheapest it's ever been.

00:36:49.000 Why?

00:36:50.000 Because people are living longer, okay?

00:36:52.000 The longer you live, life insurance is cheaper.

00:36:55.000 A couple years ago, an insurance company, I don't know if it was Hartford or Hancock, one of them came up with a policy.

00:37:01.000 They called it vitality, I want to say.

00:37:02.000 And here's how it was, Russell.

00:37:03.000 Very interesting concept.

00:37:05.000 That, uh, when we had this guy, uh, this company that said, Hey, we're launching this product vitality.

00:37:10.000 They wanted clients to wear a Fitbit.

00:37:14.000 So you bought a policy from them.

00:37:15.000 They will send you a Fitbit.

00:37:17.000 And if you wore the Fitbit and it reported that you're exercising after a month, three months, six months, 12 months, your cost of insurance would go lower.

00:37:26.000 So, Hey, this person's moving their body.

00:37:28.000 Guess what?

00:37:29.000 Let's lower their cost of insurance because they're showing us they're exercising.

00:37:33.000 I think those types of incentives are going to get people like you and I to say, I think that's fair.

00:37:38.000 Okay.

00:37:38.000 Cool.

00:37:39.000 My driving ability, I'm not getting tickets.

00:37:41.000 You should lower my cost of insurance for driving.

00:37:43.000 Totally get it.

00:37:44.000 Don't just charge me as much as you want to for different things.

00:37:47.000 The problem can be solved purely with incentives.

00:37:50.000 Russell, this is a very interesting thing we did yesterday.

00:37:53.000 Looking at, I had Cenk Uygur on the podcast.

00:37:57.000 Couple weeks ago.

00:37:58.000 Him and I, politically, are on complete opposite sides.

00:38:01.000 And he says, hey, Pat, don't you think we need to offer people 12 weeks of paternity leave, maternity leave, you know, when they have a kid and the husband and the wife can step away for 12 weeks and we should pay for it? 0.56

00:38:15.000 What's wrong with that?

00:38:16.000 Somewhere he said, I think Iceland does 81 weeks.

00:38:19.000 Why shouldn't we do 12 weeks?

00:38:20.000 I'm like, OK, perfect.

00:38:22.000 Let's process this conversation.

00:38:24.000 But I got a follow up question for you.

00:38:25.000 He says, what is it?

00:38:26.000 I said, Why do we have women in America have 6, 7, 8 kids and the incentive is for me to send you money for having more kids? 1.00

00:38:36.000 Why are we doing that?

00:38:37.000 That doesn't make any sense to me.

00:38:39.000 We're incentivizing people to have more kids out of wedlock. 1.00

00:38:43.000 So we said, let me go a little bit deeper on the numbers here.

00:38:46.000 Watch this.

00:38:47.000 Do you know when Social Security first came out, or the entitlement programs first came out by FDR, it was supposed to be a temporary program.

00:38:54.000 It wasn't supposed to be a long-term program.

00:38:55.000 It was supposed to be, hey, Great Depression happened.

00:38:58.000 Things are bad, guys.

00:38:59.000 We got to take care of our poor people.

00:39:01.000 Let's get a temporary program. 0.84

00:39:02.000 And we all know what happens with temporary programs by the government.

00:39:04.000 They become permanent.

00:39:06.000 Do you know, at that time, we roughly spent a couple percent of our federal expenditure on entitlement programs.

00:39:13.000 Russell, today, the number is 53%.

00:39:17.000 Of our money.

00:39:18.000 We receive federal expenditure.

00:39:21.000 53% goes to entitlement programs.

00:39:23.000 Just the welfare side, 59 million Americans rely on welfare.

00:39:29.000 59 million Americans rely on welfare.

00:39:31.000 I'll go a little bit deeper with this on how bad policies have consequences.

00:39:35.000 So at first, the policy was, let's support single mothers to take care of their families and kids.

00:39:42.000 So there was a certain portion that you paid under 6 years old and at 7 to 18 years old.

00:39:47.000 And I was in 1935 when FDR came out with that program.

00:39:51.000 Then in 1964, Lyndon Johnson took it to a whole different level.

00:39:55.000 I think it's 64, 65.

00:39:57.000 When you look at the numbers, Russell, if I were to ask you a question, I'm actually curious to know what you say to this.

00:40:03.000 In 1940, What percentage of kids in America were born to a single mother who's never been married before, who doesn't have a husband, who's not married?

00:40:16.000 What percentage of kids in 1940 do you think in America were born to a single mother, no husband in the picture?

00:40:22.000 What do you think the number is?

00:40:23.000 Firstly, I grew up with a single mother, but my perspective is that we tend to manage the conversation around morality and conflating, for example, single parenthood, addiction, mental health with moral issues.

00:40:40.000 And even in this part of our conversation, Patrick, it distracts from... I think when we're having conversations about power, and I think you have to focus on the powerful.

00:40:50.000 Now whether or not single mothers or drug addicts or mentally ill people or even immigrants 0.98

00:40:55.000 are like are costly to a society, that's certainly a conversation we can have and I'm totally

00:40:59.000 willing to have that conversation.

00:41:00.000 But I'm more interested in how we discern the difference between effective and responsible

00:41:05.000 capitalism and gargantuan capitalist institutions like BlackRock, Vanguard, etc. and their impact.

00:41:12.000 If BlackRock are going to rebuild Ukraine after this expensive war that's costing the

00:41:17.000 average American taxpayer $900 a year that none of you guys have been invited to vote

00:41:23.000 And like you say, no one's offering the kind of support to Hawaii that's getting offered to Ukraine and there's no incentive to stop this war because it's baked into the American economic system.

00:41:32.000 I prefer to keep my focus on what are the movements and machinations of the powerful So what I'm asking, I think, is how do you regulate and control these vast institutions that have more powerful than governments and operate on a global scale?

00:41:45.000 That's like, you know, because the sort of moral failings, if indeed it is that, of individuals and the sort of increase of single mothers for me is less important because I know how those people live and it ain't good. 1.00

00:41:58.000 So, like, I'm more interested in the powerful, Patrick.

00:42:00.000 I totally get it, Russell.

00:42:01.000 So let me go back to my question.

00:42:03.000 What percentage of kids do you think in 1940 were born to a single mother?

00:42:06.000 And by the way, I'm raised by a single mother.

00:42:09.000 My parents got a divorce twice in 20 years to each other.

00:42:12.000 Twice in 20 years to each other.

00:42:13.000 So what percentage of kids in 1940 do you think were born to a single mother, no father in the picture?

00:42:19.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:42:21.000 You know, the number is 4%.

00:42:22.000 It's less than 5%.

00:42:24.000 You know what that number ended up being by 2000 and even today?

00:42:27.000 40 plus percent of kids are born today to single mothers, okay?

00:42:33.000 Sometimes it's 35, sometimes it's 45, but the numbers are on 30 to 45 percent, okay?

00:42:37.000 So at first, they said, we're going to be able to eliminate poverty by giving these incentive programs and these entitlement programs to the people.

00:42:46.000 Guess what?

00:42:47.000 Do you know how many years it took to realize this doesn't work?

00:42:50.000 It took us 55 years to realize it doesn't work.

00:42:53.000 Today, the amount of entitlement programs we have, we almost have to do stuff to take advantage of American people because they're so reliant on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Section 8, child tax benefits, all this stuff that we have.

00:43:07.000 So that's one part, meaning bad policies have consequences.

00:43:11.000 We're realizing that today, okay, that we have consequences.

00:43:14.000 Families raised by fathers in a picture do better than those who don't.

00:43:18.000 That's not a debate.

00:43:19.000 That's a factual statement that's being made.

00:43:21.000 Let's go to the incentive programs.

00:43:23.000 So do you know what the laws are in America, Russell, for monopoly laws?

00:43:27.000 Do you know what monopoly laws are in America?

00:43:28.000 At what percentage point it's considered a monopoly?

00:43:33.000 No.

00:43:33.000 You know what the number is?

00:43:35.000 50%, okay?

00:43:36.000 So at 50%, so for example, watch this.

00:43:39.000 What kind of a phone do you use?

00:43:41.000 Are you iPhone or are you Droid?

00:43:42.000 Yeah, I use an iPhone.

00:43:45.000 Okay, I do too.

00:43:46.000 And Malik, what do you use?

00:43:47.000 Do you use iPhone?

00:43:48.000 iPhone has 58% of market share.

00:43:52.000 Have you heard any conversations about iPhone in America being broken apart because they have a monopoly?

00:43:57.000 No.

00:43:58.000 It's not happening.

00:43:59.000 We're not following our monopoly laws.

00:43:59.000 Why?

00:44:01.000 Okay.

00:44:02.000 When you go look at ETFs, With what, uh, these BlackRock, they have all this control with the ETF money or institutional money.

00:44:11.000 There's an element of monopoly going on there that they have control.

00:44:15.000 That needs to be broken apart.

00:44:17.000 We have to have people that are working under the administration that understand this space to start telling them, you cannot be doing this anymore.

00:44:24.000 The whole concept of ESG has to be eliminated where today, if somebody wants to go out there and win an Oscar, I have to meet certain requirements for me to be nominated for an Oscar?

00:44:34.000 A third of my employees have to be part of an underrepresented community?

00:44:38.000 For what?

00:44:39.000 If that was the case, the last 50 movies that won an Oscar, none of them would win an Oscar.

00:44:43.000 These are ludicrous policies that we're putting in place To have control of what this person needs to do rather than hiring people that can do the job like Sound of Freedom and do 150 plus million dollars and they could care less about their ESG score.

00:44:54.000 There's things that we can do to break those things apart but it starts with actually following the laws that we have in place, not allowing companies to have monopolies because once they do, they have control over things.

00:45:06.000 It's not an easy thing to do.

00:45:07.000 It's going to be very challenging to do, but it's got to be someone that understands this space to be able to say, guys, we've got to have a meeting.

00:45:14.000 You cannot do this moving forward.

00:45:16.000 Here's what we're passing.

00:45:17.000 I want to prepare you.

00:45:18.000 These companies have to be broken apart.

00:45:20.000 Just 30 years ago, we had 50 different companies that we were buying weapons from, that they were doing things.

00:45:24.000 Now, five of you guys bought all the other 45 companies.

00:45:28.000 We can't do that anymore.

00:45:29.000 You guys have control.

00:45:30.000 We've got to break apart some of these companies.

00:45:32.000 These are things that a president could do.

00:45:34.000 These are things that leaders could do.

00:45:35.000 But to do that, It's going to be tough to do it if you took money from those guys.

00:45:41.000 It's going to be tough to do if those guys are funding you.

00:45:43.000 It's going to be tough to do if there's always going to be money in elections.

00:45:46.000 It's going to be tough to do if there's always going to be lobbyists in there.

00:45:49.000 Like, look, to rehaul this whole thing when talking to Vivek, Vivek's like, I'm here for revolution.

00:45:56.000 I think the next phase, Russell, to get it to where you and I can be comfortable, where These capitalists, crony capitalists, are buying up people left and right.

00:46:06.000 Senators for $10,000, $20,000 to get stuff that they want their way.

00:46:11.000 Congressmen that you know are going to be there for 20, 30, 40 years, you can buy them up, no problem.

00:46:16.000 They're not going to have to deal with insider trading.

00:46:18.000 They can make all the money.

00:46:19.000 You see their networks on how they make money.

00:46:20.000 How are you worth, all of a sudden, $50 million, $100 million, $150 million?

00:46:24.000 How?

00:46:24.000 You only make $170 per year.

00:46:26.000 These are real concerns.

00:46:27.000 But to do that, It's extremely, extremely risky because I no longer, I used to think as a naive guy, when I was 14 years old, I went to school, teachers started talking about Democrats and Republicans and independence, all this stuff.

00:46:40.000 I came home one day and I said, mom, are we Republicans or Democrats?

00:46:44.000 And she said, we're Democrats.

00:46:45.000 I said, why are we Democrats?

00:46:47.000 She said, because Democrats are for the poor, Republicans are for the rich.

00:46:51.000 And I said, interesting.

00:46:53.000 I said, you know what, mom?

00:46:53.000 She said, what?

00:46:54.000 I said, when I grow up, I want to be a Republican one day.

00:46:57.000 She says, what do you mean?

00:46:57.000 We can't be Republicans.

00:46:58.000 I said, I don't know what Republican means.

00:47:00.000 I just want to be rich.

00:47:01.000 I'm sick of being poor. 0.96

00:47:02.000 I freaking hate it. 0.97

00:47:03.000 I can't stand being poor. 0.81

00:47:05.000 But it's no longer about Republicans and Democrats because you and I May not be politically on the same side, but we agree on a lot of things.

00:47:12.000 It's today now more about you're either for the establishment or you're against it.

00:47:18.000 The against people have a very hard job.

00:47:21.000 The against people very hard to get elected.

00:47:23.000 The against people will be demonized.

00:47:26.000 Character assassination, destroyed, targeted.

00:47:29.000 This is not an easy job.

00:47:30.000 It's not a good life.

00:47:32.000 Not for you, not for your wife, not for your kids, not for anybody. 0.97

00:47:36.000 There's a lot of risk.

00:47:38.000 For speaking the anti-establishment language, let alone being an anti-establishment candidate.

00:47:43.000 But unfortunately, or fortunately, that's exactly what we need today.

00:47:46.000 Yeah, I think I agree with you on a great deal there, Patrick.

00:47:50.000 It's plain that we see some things pretty differently.

00:47:53.000 As I stated before, my preference is to focus on where power is.

00:47:57.000 And whilst, you know, similarly, I've made a journey through a number of different economic classes, Always like to maintain in our discourse, where are particular news stories being used to enhance the power of already advantaged systems and institutions, whether they are deep state, governmental or corporate and financial.

00:48:21.000 And what I'm interested in learning more about is what models within free market capitalism can be moral and effective and how we manage the delicate balance between regulation and assuring that legitimate entrepreneurship is able to succeed.

00:48:39.000 We've got a social movement that we're participating in.

00:48:42.000 We've got a media organization that we're participating in.

00:48:45.000 We have ambitions in our organisation to improve the lives of as many people as possible, and

00:48:51.000 a strong sense that real change will come from personal spiritual awakening and decentralised

00:48:57.000 movements of government.

00:48:59.000 The opportunity to control your own community means that it's no longer necessary to have

00:49:04.000 a strong moral opinion on the behaviours and preferences of another religious, cultural

00:49:10.000 community or people that organise their identity around gender or sexuality or identity.

00:49:16.000 I think that these conversations create more conflict than they resolve, and they don't

00:49:21.000 address the fundamental issue.

00:49:22.000 And I've had these conversations with a good number of people, the same people that I imagine

00:49:26.000 that you're speaking to in your space.

00:49:29.000 But one thing I know is integral is that if you're unable to access, destabilise, disrupt,

00:49:37.000 attack centralised organisations of government, finance, global corporatism that are by their

00:49:44.000 nature as you say monopolist and not truly competitive, gargantuan, buying up competitors,

00:49:52.000 presenting themselves as ingenious and scientific, as in the case of Pfizer for example recently,

00:49:58.000 when in practice they function more like an enterprise that purchases smaller organisations,

00:50:04.000 acquiring their patents etc.

00:50:06.000 We're given so many false stories.

00:50:08.000 We're fed so many lies.

00:50:10.000 We're continually distracted and seduced by narratives of conflict.

00:50:14.000 That's why, personally, I tend to keep away from arguments and conversations around immigration, even though I know it's important to people.

00:50:23.000 Welfare and subjects like that, even though I know they're important to people, not because I want to avoid the subjects or because I believe I have solutions to them.

00:50:31.000 It's just a more of an intuitive sense that you will not resolve the issues of our time by focusing on the most vulnerable people, whether they are immigrants or whether they are from, you know, any members of an economic class, where I think it is our obligation to find alliances and new ways of coming together.

00:50:50.000 And then I think, you know, you can sort of regionalize whether or not you're going to have immigration in your community, or whether you're going to have programs to support single mothers, or whether it's going to be traditional or progressive values.

00:51:03.000 Like, a lot of people I've spoken to think that these issues are primarily used to drive conflict, and certainly that's how I've seen them play out, because I find people who I think, yeah, I agree with you that we have to disrupt and attack the establishment, And I also agree that you should be able to have your own moral and cultural practices because that's the price of me having mine.

00:51:24.000 No, fair point, you know, on what you're saying, but I will say this to you, Russell, let me, let me ask you a question from a different standpoint.

00:51:31.000 So let's just say you make $63,000 per year, okay?

00:51:37.000 If you make $63,000 per year, you're 32 years old, you're married, you got two kids, hypothetically, what percentage of your income are you comfortable sending to your mom on a monthly basis?

00:51:50.000 I love this.

00:51:51.000 You do a lot of this, don't you?

00:51:52.000 You do a lot of hypothetical, rhetorical questions as part of your conversational... I question like you do.

00:52:01.000 You kill it with your show, but you get the audience thinking.

00:52:04.000 That's what you do with your show, right?

00:52:06.000 Yeah, hold on a minute.

00:52:07.000 So in this, I'm 32 years old.

00:52:09.000 I'm earning $62,000 a year.

00:52:11.000 How many children have I got?

00:52:13.000 Two.

00:52:13.000 You're 32, you got two kids, you're making 62, 63 a year.

00:52:16.000 Are they my biological children, or did I adopt one of them?

00:52:20.000 No, they're yours.

00:52:21.000 They're mine.

00:52:22.000 Can I be truly sure that my wife is not an adulteress?

00:52:26.000 Because we've got a very, very attractive mailman, I've seen the bulge in his sack, and I'm not talking about the mail.

00:52:34.000 So I'm assuming that they're my biological children, even though George Clooney is dropping off more than letters every morning.

00:52:42.000 How much am I willing to give to my mother?

00:52:44.000 Right, what's she like?

00:52:47.000 Firstly, let me ask you this, Patrick.

00:52:49.000 Is she good in bed? 0.88

00:52:51.000 Your mom?

00:52:52.000 You gotta ask your dad if your mom's getting bad.

00:52:55.000 She's a hypothetical mother, and we're in a hypothetical environment where incest is not only tolerated, but encouraged. 0.77

00:53:03.000 It's called incest, it's incest world. 1.00

00:53:05.000 Now I bet you've seen how much, how much, do you know the most popular category?

00:53:10.000 Patrick, let me ask you a question.

00:53:11.000 What is the most, what would you say is the most popular category of pornography on YouPorn?

00:53:19.000 What is the most popular pornography category?

00:53:22.000 I couldn't tell you.

00:53:23.000 What is it? 0.99

00:53:25.000 62% of people are masturbating over sweet lady incest. 0.90

00:53:29.000 That means mother, daddy, step-brother, step- No, actually I made up that figure, but it is the most popular, it is the most popular category.

00:53:40.000 I don't personally Patrick, because of spiritual principles, I don't look at pornography one day at a time.

00:53:45.000 Don't drink one day at a time, don't use drugs one day at a time, but in my hypothetical world that you've just given me, I will be doing all those things.

00:53:53.000 So I'll be using the majority of my salaries going on alcohol and heroin.

00:53:57.000 But the small amount that I'm left, I will give.

00:54:01.000 I'd give, I don't know, of that amount, ten grand I'd give to my mum.

00:54:05.000 But you know this is in some crazy world.

00:54:08.000 Okay, so out of your $63,000 per year, you're willing to give $800 a month to help your mom support her.

00:54:14.000 No problem.

00:54:15.000 So watch this.

00:54:16.000 You know what happens if we add eight zeros to that $63,000?

00:54:21.000 That becomes our annual federal expenditure in the U.S., $6.3 trillion, of which 53% We give to entitlement programs.

00:54:32.000 I know you don't want to talk about it, but we're running out of money.

00:54:34.000 So when you're talking about, I want to make sure I'm focused on how I can help the people that need help.

00:54:41.000 You know who we're ruining in America the most?

00:54:43.000 I don't know if you have kids.

00:54:44.000 I got four of them.

00:54:45.000 Here's who we're ruining the most.

00:54:47.000 The future generation of America is getting destroyed because they're going to get stuck with this debt and it's not getting any smaller.

00:54:54.000 Nobody wants to talk about we're running out of money on social security.

00:54:57.000 Nobody wants to talk about Medicaid or Medicare.

00:55:00.000 Nobody wants to talk about all these welfare entitlement programs, Section 8.

00:55:03.000 We cannot simply afford it if we continue going this way because we're running out of money in areas and every year we're increasing it.

00:55:10.000 Biden just came out saying they want to increase The $1.3 trillion we spend every year on welfare, he wants to raise it to $2.6 trillion.

00:55:20.000 It's going to cost us an additional $13 trillion over the next 10 years.

00:55:23.000 We simply can't afford that, but we keep voting for that.

00:55:26.000 But if you're talking about how to help some of those guys out, here's what I'll tell you.

00:55:30.000 Policies.

00:55:33.000 Russell, would you consider yourself a small business owner?

00:55:36.000 In that hypothetical world, I am definitely, I'm getting that $62,000 a year from a small ice cream business that I run in my yard.

00:55:44.000 Now here's the angle, PBD, it's human milk that we make the ice cream from and it's only It's from single mothers. 1.00

00:55:53.000 In order to get their welfare, what I do is I've created, it's called the Hypothetical Welfare Dairy.

00:56:00.000 Now, we take the children, they toil in underground caves looking for cobalt for our iPhones, which are now demonopolized.

00:56:08.000 So we're also, we've got a small mobile phone business as well.

00:56:11.000 But the single mums, they are lactating like crazy for their welfare cheques, I'm telling you. 1.00

00:56:16.000 No, PBD, before I lock, I'm going to do a pivot here because I'm watching our chat

00:56:20.000 and a lot of people want to hear your views on this.

00:56:22.000 They want to know whether or not the Biden crime family are worse than the Trump family.

00:56:29.000 Do you think that Biden and Hunter, that Biden's Hunter and Joe were involved in those Burisma deals?

00:56:37.000 Do you think that Hunter's relationship to his father is significant when it comes to the deals that he did with Burisma and Chinese energy companies?

00:56:45.000 And do you think that that amounts to corruption?

00:56:49.000 Yeah, I think there is two ways to gain freedom and power.

00:56:54.000 OK, there's two ways to to gain freedom and power. 0.99

00:56:57.000 One of the ways is through free market capitalism.

00:57:01.000 You go win there, you make your money, you become financially free and you have power.

00:57:06.000 The other way is to use it through politics.

00:57:09.000 And through politics comes bullying.

00:57:11.000 You have a machine behind you.

00:57:13.000 You have the biggest gangs behind you, backing you up.

00:57:16.000 It's called additional lawyers, law, policies.

00:57:20.000 You can destroy someone's life or business based on policies you come up with.

00:57:24.000 So, if somebody says, which is worse, one is using the government and other people's money To gain control and power, and the other one's doing it independently.

00:57:34.000 If we compared the two, we can go a little bit deeper as well on the families.

00:57:39.000 You have to look at values and principles as well.

00:57:42.000 On the Biden family, on values and principles, it's kind of weird when you look at the youngest son ends up hooking up with the oldest son's ex-wife after he died.

00:57:51.000 That's a little weird when you think about that.

00:57:52.000 You know, when you think about the drugs involved, a little bit weird.

00:57:55.000 When you think about in the history of, you know, White House events that we've had, only

00:58:00.000 Biden said cocaine at a party.

00:58:01.000 I mean, you know, I don't know if you're going to see cocaine at a lot of Trump events.

00:58:05.000 Maybe, maybe not, but you haven't seen it.

00:58:07.000 And then if you look at Trump's family with his kids, I've never met the family, meaning

00:58:13.000 we've never broke bread.

00:58:14.000 We've never had a meeting.

00:58:16.000 I've never had dinner with them, but they seem like they have their stuff together.

00:58:21.000 Ivanka, you see what she's doing with her business. 1.00

00:58:23.000 Don, Don's doing what Don is doing.

00:58:25.000 Eric, the family.

00:58:26.000 Trump is doing what he's doing with his business.

00:58:29.000 He came from a family of a lot of You know, luxuries and money and all of that stuff.

00:58:34.000 So it could have been very easy.

00:58:36.000 You and I probably know kids that grew up in rich families who did drugs more.

00:58:40.000 Kids from private school with families that were millionaires or kids from public schools.

00:58:44.000 Some may say those kids from private schools with rich mommy and daddy were the ones that did the most drugs because they had access to better drugs.

00:58:51.000 I was living in a city called Plano, Texas for five years.

00:58:55.000 When we were going there, everybody would say, you sure you want to go to Plano?

00:58:57.000 You sure you want to go to Plano?

00:58:58.000 Do you know the story with Plano and heroin?

00:59:00.000 I said, what are you guys talking about?

00:59:02.000 Plano was known for heroin.

00:59:03.000 The kids were addicted to heroin.

00:59:04.000 They were dying left and right.

00:59:06.000 Because all these rich kids, their parents were giving them money and they were buying heroin and they were dying off.

00:59:10.000 And this was really an epidemic.

00:59:11.000 You can Google this and see it.

00:59:13.000 So, Trump is raised in a family with all that money.

00:59:17.000 You don't do drugs?

00:59:18.000 You don't do alcohol?

00:59:20.000 You don't have tattoos?

00:59:22.000 What? 0.86

00:59:22.000 And your vice is women? 0.86

00:59:24.000 Okay.

00:59:25.000 But all the other stuff you don't do?

00:59:27.000 And your kids are good kids?

00:59:30.000 It's very easy to, uh, you know, trash Trump, uh, and go after him.

00:59:30.000 I don't know.

00:59:35.000 But the guy's won on a lot of different businesses, whether it's his book, whether it's 15 years with Apprentice, whether it's him winning in business, being a billionaire, whether it's him partying with everybody, the letters he's gotten from the biggest celebrities around the world, from the most powerful people around the world who loved him, adored him, till he chose to run as a Republican.

00:59:54.000 Then everything changed, and he became a president.

00:59:57.000 See, I don't know if we have a lot of success stories in America as big as his on winning in different spaces.

01:00:04.000 We have a basketball player, Michael Jordan.

01:00:06.000 He won in basketball, and he crushed it.

01:00:10.000 We have a guy, Tiger Woods, he won in golf.

01:00:12.000 He crushed it.

01:00:13.000 We have Elon Musk.

01:00:14.000 He won in business and he's winning in media, but he hasn't yet got the president stuff and he's crushing it.

01:00:22.000 This is the only guy that if you think about has won in three, four, five different, it's not easy to do.

01:00:27.000 So for me, when it comes down to the crime stuff and all the stuff that they're doing, it's kind of random.

01:00:32.000 When you think about the day, um, There's a story, negative story about Biden, he's being indicted or he's going through whatever.

01:00:39.000 The exact next day Trump gets indicted, that's a little random, it's a little weird.

01:00:44.000 Not a week later, not two weeks later, the exact date, that happens a day later.

01:00:50.000 You have to be a dummy, naive, oblivious, or wanting to look the other way if you don't think that DOJ is being weaponized against a potential opponent If you're naïve and you want to look past that, more power to you.

01:01:05.000 I'm not naïve. 0.98

01:01:06.000 I'm naturally paranoid and sceptical being Iranian. 1.00

01:01:09.000 I have a hard time sitting there and saying, yeah, this is normal stuff.

01:01:12.000 I don't think it is.

01:01:13.000 Patrick, you are an absolutely fascinating and brilliant man.

01:01:16.000 I love you as a podcaster.

01:01:18.000 I can't wait.

01:01:19.000 I'm assuming you're going to let me come on Valuetainment next time I'm in Florida.

01:01:23.000 You've got to check out David on Valuetainment.

01:01:25.000 You should also look at his business app, Minik.

01:01:30.000 That's available to download now.

01:01:32.000 I wish I'd met you, David, when you were doing insurance and stuff like that.

01:01:37.000 I'd love to have met you in the game.

01:01:38.000 I think you could have sold me anything.

01:01:40.000 Thank you so much.

01:01:41.000 I can see why you've had so much success in this area.

01:01:43.000 And thank you so much for making time for us.

01:01:45.000 I know you're very busy.

01:01:45.000 Thanks for having me on.

01:01:47.000 It's a pleasure to speak with you.

01:01:48.000 So check out Patrick's show, Valuetainment, and look at that app, Minect, as well.

01:01:54.000 On the show tomorrow, we're going to be joined by Dr. John Campbell.

01:01:58.000 Loads of you absolutely love Dr. John, don't you?

01:02:00.000 And he's got some stuff to tell us about myocarditis and vaccines that I think is going to astonish you.

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