Stay Free - Russel Brand - September 05, 2023


Trump Will Face ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT In 2024?! - Stay Free #200


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 16 minutes

Words per Minute

190.25374

Word Count

14,621

Sentence Count

972

Misogynist Sentences

21

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Russell Brand is back with a brand new episode of Stay Free with Russell Brand, and he's got a lot to talk about. He's talking about Trump's potential assassination, the dangers of surveillance, and why we should all be grateful that we have the right to be whoever we choose. Plus, he's joined by Barry Weiss, the excellent journalist and author of 'The Dark Side Of' and 'That's the Wrong Song', and they talk about the Swedish pandemic, and how they're doing it better than the rest of us. Stay free, and don't forget to check out Stay Free With Russell Brand on Rumble! Stay Free, and Don't Tell Mom: e. Subscribe, Like, and Share to stay up to date with what's happening in the world and how you can be a part of the movement to free speech and freedom. Stay free! Love & Light, EJ & Hazel Halite - The Awakening Worshippers. Stay Free! - E.J. Holmes and Elyssa Milano Keep Calm & Keep Awoke, E.S.Barry Weiss & E.A. Weiss, The Dark Lord & Eichler, The Truth About Us - Freech, Freech. - Free Chilling, The New York Times Magazine. And stay tuned for the first of 5 intimate shows in September, 5 intimate events in London, in Wolverhampton, and in the UK, in the US, in October, in November, in December, in Detroit and in January, in New York, in March, in May, in June, in July, in August and August, and September, in September and in August, in late September, and late September in the autumn, in mid-September, in Berlin, and more in the spring, in all over the UK in the summer, and much more! Thank you for listening to Stay Free. Love, Hazel and EJ, Hazel, Ej & EJ and Ej, EK and E. Thank you so much, Elesa, E-Yeeves and Ephraim and E-Sue, Eudes and Ewan and Eudes, Ewan & Ej and Eben and Elyn, Ephile, Thank you, Eleri & Ewan, Evelin & Eles and Eles & Elynne, and thank you for all the love & support and support.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 All correct.
00:00:07.000 Thank you.
00:00:32.000 Thank you.
00:00:51.000 you Hello there, you Awakening Wonders!
00:00:55.000 Thanks for joining us on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:58.000 For the first 15 minutes, we will be available with all of you on YouTube.
00:01:02.000 Those of you that come here for truth, those of you that come here for hope, those of you who come here because you want to be part of a movement, you don't want to participate in the entropy and despair of a culture that's devouring itself, a legacy media that's lost its way, that wants to do nothing but annihilate and destroy, that's lost its vision, that's lost The light of the Lord that looks to you, that looks to me, that looks to us collectively to bring about a new order, a new awakening.
00:01:28.000 And when I say new order, I don't mean some new global order of centralised authoritarian power.
00:01:32.000 I mean decentralised power.
00:01:33.000 I mean a little old thing called democracy, where you have the power to control your own life, where you are free.
00:01:39.000 Your freedom isn't criminalised.
00:01:40.000 That's one of the stories we're going to be talking about.
00:01:42.000 Surveillance is on the up.
00:01:43.000 They're tracking your DNA.
00:01:45.000 They are criminalising all of us, even Gareth Roy.
00:01:49.000 One of the least criminal people I've ever had the good fortune to meet.
00:01:49.000 No.
00:01:53.000 We're gonna be talking about Trump's potential assassination, hyperbole, or possibility.
00:01:58.000 Let me know in the comments, guys, do you think it's a real possibility?
00:02:01.000 If you're watching this on Rumble right now, why don't you press the red button and join us in the locals' chat, like Blessed Old Bird and Thomas Beard and Taz Being and Jim Earthsey.
00:02:09.000 They're chatting away in there, they're expressing their free speech, and later we'll have freech.
00:02:13.000 Where your freedom of speech will be broadcast live.
00:02:16.000 We've got a fantastic guest on the show as well, Barry Weiss, one of the great Twitterphile journalists, or Xphiles.
00:02:21.000 That's the wrong music, that's Twilight Zone.
00:02:25.000 You'd do Doctor Who then, wouldn't you?
00:02:31.000 Well, Barry Weiss, we've chatted to her before the show.
00:02:33.000 She is ready to rock.
00:02:34.000 She's even sorted out the height of her chair.
00:02:36.000 She's perfectly framed.
00:02:37.000 She's ready to go.
00:02:38.000 There's going to be fantastic revelations.
00:02:40.000 We're going to be talking about Oliver Antony.
00:02:42.000 Why is it that he's become the scourge of the left?
00:02:44.000 Why has it become a problem to talk up For ordinary people.
00:02:47.000 It's so goddamn catchy, that's why.
00:02:48.000 It's so bloody catchy!
00:02:51.000 I'd just like to curl up in that beard, wouldn't you?
00:02:54.000 I'd like to lay my eggs in that ginger nest, wouldn't you?
00:02:58.000 Oh, yes.
00:02:58.000 Wouldn't you?
00:02:59.000 Hey, if you happen to be in the UK, I'm doing five very intimate shows in September.
00:03:03.000 There's a link in the description that tells you where to come.
00:03:06.000 There's one in London, even.
00:03:07.000 And Wolverhampton, Plymouth.
00:03:07.000 You'll love it.
00:03:08.000 There's a bunch of places.
00:03:09.000 But anyway, I don't want to get bogged down and all that.
00:03:11.000 We've got a lot to talk about.
00:03:12.000 Once we leave YouTube and we're exclusively on Rumble, we're going to be telling you a thing or two about the Swedes.
00:03:18.000 There's more to Sweden than Volvo, Sauners and Abba, because it turns out that their approach to the pandemic has led to fewer deaths.
00:03:27.000 Now, isn't that astonishing?
00:03:28.000 Because wasn't their approach do nothing?
00:03:31.000 It was something akin to that.
00:03:32.000 What we could do is lock everyone in their house, make sure people wear masks, they stand these distances apart, they take all of these injections.
00:03:37.000 What about if, you know, we just let people do what they like?
00:03:40.000 That won't work, you mad idiots!
00:03:42.000 Waterloo!
00:03:43.000 What I say is, we'll look at that, but obviously with the WHO having the power that they have over the guidelines on I love you 6.5 million awakening wonders. I love you and
00:03:53.000 you feel that love.
00:03:54.000 You know this is not the dumb, hollow, empty communications that you get from the mainstream.
00:03:58.000 You know we're moving to a greater frequency. You know that it's our job to fuse spirituality
00:04:04.000 with politics and new, inclusive spirituality that looks for alliances rather than new forms
00:04:09.000 of destruction. That sees past their mainstream lies.
00:04:13.000 Now, steal yourselves because this is about a person having an accident on an aeroplane, as I understand.
00:04:17.000 Now, we've all made mistakes on aeroplanes.
00:04:19.000 in the land of rumble where we are free to be whoever we are
00:04:23.000 united in our free speech to come together not to drive people
00:04:27.000 apart. Let's have a look at a lovely little story on Fox News now. Now
00:04:31.000 steel yourselves because this is about a person having an accident on an airplane as
00:04:36.000 I understand now we've all made mistakes on airplanes. You certainly
00:04:40.000 have.
00:04:41.000 I was asked to leave one once.
00:04:42.000 They threw me off it.
00:04:43.000 It was still on the tarmac, fortunately.
00:04:45.000 It wasn't for the same reason, was it?
00:04:47.000 Actually, sort of.
00:04:49.000 No, it wasn't, because this is about... Have you heard this story about the diarrhoea on an aeroplane?
00:04:52.000 That's right.
00:04:53.000 We've had snakes on a plane!
00:04:54.000 Now we've got SHIT up a plane, you dirty pigs!
00:04:58.000 Let's have a look at the mainstream reporting on this.
00:05:01.000 Talk about an uncomfortable flight.
00:05:03.000 So here's what went down, y'all.
00:05:04.000 A Delta flight was going from Atlanta to...
00:05:06.000 Firstly, I like her news style.
00:05:08.000 Because she's calling you Y'all on the news.
00:05:10.000 Do you like that, America?
00:05:11.000 Is that the sort of thing you like?
00:05:12.000 On Labour Day, I like it to be called Y'all.
00:05:14.000 Because, like, in England on the news, they don't go...
00:05:17.000 Alright, mate, news coming up.
00:05:19.000 They talk to you firstly like you're a moron and that you're very lucky to be getting this.
00:05:23.000 Hello, this is England, here's some news.
00:05:25.000 Sit down, shut up, have a cup of tea.
00:05:27.000 And if you still have a genital, snip it off and leave it outside.
00:05:31.000 We'll drive it away in a lorry, you wanker.
00:05:33.000 Which isn't a swear word in some nations.
00:05:35.000 Interesting.
00:05:36.000 Barcelona, when all of a sudden a passenger got what I like to call the bubble guts.
00:05:36.000 Y'all.
00:05:42.000 Crew members called it an on-board medical issue.
00:05:45.000 Bubble guts?
00:05:46.000 Which was reportedly a case of, quote... That's them connecting the world at Delta, is it?
00:05:51.000 Yeah, I like the idea that these are the people that caused it.
00:05:55.000 All of them.
00:05:56.000 We had got bubble guts, y'all!
00:05:58.000 This little gang of bubble guts.
00:06:00.000 So, every single one of them.
00:06:01.000 Oh, God, I'm sorry.
00:06:02.000 I don't know who started it.
00:06:03.000 It was the fella over on the right, but we shook hands.
00:06:06.000 We should have been keeping some social distance.
00:06:08.000 It's all up the plane.
00:06:10.000 Diarrhoea all the way through the plane.
00:06:13.000 Imagine that.
00:06:14.000 Well, now the past... All the way through.
00:06:16.000 I don't know how much, like, what constitutes, like, if someone has diarrhoea in a plane, it's gonna ruin their seat and their aisle, and if you're in coach, the aisle behind and aisle in front of you.
00:06:26.000 I'd say it's a free aisle issue.
00:06:27.000 Yes.
00:06:28.000 All up the plane, that means they've tried to go to the toilet, it's gone wrong, and imagine the dreadful panic of being in a fuselage, the indignity of that.
00:06:36.000 Oh, excuse me!
00:06:38.000 Oh no, it's gone wrong!
00:06:40.000 Don't tell my wife!
00:06:42.000 That's a really humiliating thing down that aisle.
00:06:44.000 Yeah, running up and down, scuttling up and down that aisle.
00:06:47.000 Scuttling and sprinkling as you go.
00:06:50.000 Trouser legs.
00:06:50.000 The trouser legs, yeah.
00:06:52.000 The trouser legs making its way down.
00:06:54.000 Now, how would you feel towards that person?
00:06:56.000 Would you be a good Christian or good Muslim or whatever your thing is and go, oh, you know, I welcome thee?
00:07:02.000 No!
00:07:03.000 Oh, you're a bit more like, you are a pariah!
00:07:06.000 Get out of our community!
00:07:07.000 Like that?
00:07:08.000 Yeah.
00:07:09.000 What would you do if they were in first?
00:07:12.000 You'd send them right back to economy, wouldn't you?
00:07:14.000 First thing's first!
00:07:15.000 It's economy for you!
00:07:16.000 I'd say rubber bands around the ankles or bicycle clips.
00:07:19.000 Get them sealed up, I'd say, like trunk.
00:07:22.000 Then it's a sick bag taped over the offending orifice.
00:07:25.000 Who's doing that job?
00:07:27.000 I'd say that's got to be the co-pilot.
00:07:28.000 Because the pilot, you need him to concentrate, don't you?
00:07:32.000 But this is a vets role situation.
00:07:33.000 This is where you want everyone on the plane mobilized towards this real and present dirty threat.
00:07:42.000 We're about two hours into the flight when they had to turn around the whole plane and just go on back home.
00:07:48.000 In a recording, the pilot told air traffic control this was a biohazard issue.
00:07:53.000 That hazard is slightly grandiose.
00:07:55.000 What I feel like is, doesn't it show the hubris of our kind that since the Wright Brothers we have conquered the air, but all it takes is one person with a dodgy belly and the two Bob Bits and the squirts and suddenly aeroplanes are being brought down.
00:08:10.000 It sort of shows you the fragility of civilisation and the hubris of our kind.
00:08:14.000 Civilisation lays upon the planet and by the mighty winds of God, or a passenger, it could be coughed off into brown oblivion.
00:08:23.000 I think that's what got Pregosian last week.
00:08:25.000 Pregosian?
00:08:26.000 Oh no, Putin!
00:08:27.000 He's got me by the short and dirty!
00:08:30.000 Oh, it's game over!
00:08:31.000 Night, night!
00:08:32.000 It's the Brown Terror!
00:08:33.000 Goodbye, I've got myself the bubble guts!
00:08:37.000 Negative, it's just a biohazard issue.
00:08:39.000 We've had a passenger who had diarrhea all the way through the airplane, so they wanted to come back to us.
00:08:44.000 All the way through the airplane?
00:08:46.000 Now I, at this point, think there's some personal responsibility on behalf of the passenger.
00:08:50.000 You just can't go marching up and down the arms like that.
00:08:53.000 It should be confined.
00:08:55.000 It's almost like they enjoyed it at this point, like it was a dirty protest.
00:08:58.000 Now I don't know where that coronavirus came from, but you should have been able to contain it in the Wuhan lab or wet market, could be either, area.
00:09:05.000 You don't want people skiddily skidding out of the labs and out of the wet markets, running down the back caves, running down the town, getting in the airplanes.
00:09:13.000 What you've got yourself there is a super spreader event.
00:09:16.000 That is a super spreader event right there, a one-person super spreader.
00:09:19.000 Dirty devils!
00:09:22.000 They had to carry the man out on a stretcher.
00:09:25.000 Well, that's... I mean, do you know what I think that is?
00:09:28.000 That person is a man.
00:09:29.000 So humiliated that he's sort of had to fully... Pretend it's a... Yeah.
00:09:34.000 Oh, I'm dying!
00:09:35.000 Oh, no, I can't live like this.
00:09:36.000 But he's actually been filled by shame.
00:09:38.000 Yes.
00:09:38.000 And I think maybe, under the circumstances, if you're temporarily the member of a 500-person community, all airlocked together, because you know on that plane, you're breathing that stuff.
00:09:48.000 That's unavoidable, isn't it?
00:09:48.000 Oh, God.
00:09:50.000 Yeah, there is faecal matter entering your system.
00:09:53.000 Yeah, you're all part of one.
00:09:55.000 And in a sense, we could extrapolate that onto the planet.
00:09:57.000 We are all civilians, citizens of one planet, and we should be sharing it together.
00:10:01.000 That does not mean there should be one centralized government.
00:10:03.000 There should be localization and people that need the toilet.
00:10:06.000 A good bellyache on the plane.
00:10:08.000 I'm afraid of them people.
00:10:09.000 I'd say you should deal with that yourself with a cork or a thumb.
00:10:13.000 So one person problem, solve it yourself, like turn yourself into a teapot.
00:10:16.000 Yeah.
00:10:17.000 So, solve it.
00:10:18.000 Send up your best guy.
00:10:19.000 This guy, he's not got what it takes.
00:10:21.000 This fella.
00:10:22.000 You should do the announcement on the plane before they take off.
00:10:25.000 Alright, now listen you lot, in the event of, you know, some nonsense and a mast comes
00:10:29.000 down, don't freak out, that could be nothing.
00:10:31.000 Remember you got that whistle in case you end up in the sea and everything.
00:10:35.000 Take off your high heeled shoes.
00:10:36.000 If you're gonna poo yourself like a pig in the streets.
00:10:40.000 Get that thumb, the thing that separates us from the animals, and use it so you don't become like a sky monkey pooping your whole way up the aisle.
00:10:48.000 Now let's get on with some proper freedom and some proper news because Tucker predicts... What do you... Let us know, do you want to see Tucker talking about the potential assassination of Donald Trump and how that contrasts with Maddow's prediction that if he becomes president he will elect himself president for life or nominate himself or designate himself president for life?
00:11:07.000 Or do you want to see this thing with Kamala Harris and Big Pharma and the Big Pharma drug prices?
00:11:13.000 We've got this brilliant story where all of the claims of the Biden administration that they're going to control drug prices are in a sense erroneous and False, aren't they?
00:11:25.000 Yeah, they're certainly massively exaggerated and the way in which they congratulate themselves at this historic, I think Kamala Harris says it at one point, this historic situation where we've managed to beat Big Pharma again is shown to be an absolute load of rubbish.
00:11:40.000 Yeah, a lot of people are saying both Trump and drugs, and some people are saying they want it at the same time.
00:11:47.000 But what kind of evening is that, you crazy young people?
00:11:51.000 This is, I think, extraordinary, because what we're being offered, you should see the giddy hyperbole and fanfare that accompanies this story.
00:11:58.000 Let's go to the mainstream media reporting of the event.
00:12:02.000 Kamala Harris, I say she's making this and introducing this policy honestly as if it's seismic, apocal and as if it's going to change American life forever.
00:12:11.000 Proudly announcing that no senior citizen should have to choose between putting food in their fridge and buying drugs.
00:12:18.000 Meanwhile, dear Joe Biden there looks like he couldn't cope with either.
00:12:22.000 Filling a fridge or buying drugs could reduce him.
00:12:24.000 They just took him off a plane apparently.
00:12:27.000 I had a hell of a time up there, one or two other people complained, and then I was on a standy-up lay-down bed on the way out!
00:12:33.000 It's the best trip of my life!
00:12:35.000 Let's have a look at this bit of mainstream reporting.
00:12:41.000 She's already pleased as punch, isn't she?
00:12:44.000 About what she's about to announce.
00:12:46.000 What is the reality of this policy?
00:12:49.000 What's being claimed is that Big Pharma is being railed in.
00:12:52.000 86% of Americans want caps on drug prices.
00:12:55.000 That's a call for more regulation of Big Pharma.
00:12:58.000 But how can you ever regulate Big Pharma when Big Pharma funds both political parties to the degree that it does?
00:13:04.000 When the FDA is funded by the pharmaceutical companies that it's supposed to legislate against?
00:13:09.000 And even in the, not necessarily legislate against, but control and regulate.
00:13:13.000 And particularly after the Purdue family, Purdue Sackler disaster,
00:13:17.000 and no proper convictions or meaningful changes after the opioid crisis in your country,
00:13:24.000 how can we go beaming to the podium, making grandiose claims of meaningful change
00:13:29.000 at a time like this?
00:13:30.000 Wait till you hear what this amounts to.
00:13:31.000 It's a handful of drugs that have no generic competition, that have been available on the market for nine years.
00:13:37.000 It's astonishing, because you'd think what's being like announced is some kind of forever erection
00:13:44.000 Please have a seat.
00:13:45.000 Good afternoon.
00:13:46.000 accessible to all, but it amounts to a pip squeak far on a plane and not the kind of
00:13:50.000 disaster we were describing earlier.
00:13:52.000 Good afternoon, please have a seat.
00:13:55.000 Good afternoon.
00:13:56.000 It's a room full of leaders.
00:13:59.000 Well thank you.
00:14:00.000 Well I can see one person immediately to your left who's not qualified to lead anybody.
00:14:05.000 Look at him, the poor sausage.
00:14:06.000 And I'm talking about Joe Biden there, not the other fellow who I believe does have a medical condition that exempts him from the kind of critiques that we freely offer Joe Biden.
00:14:15.000 Thank you, everyone, for being here and for all the work that you have done leading up to today.
00:14:20.000 I want to thank, of course, our nation's champion, President Biden, for your leadership and commitment to lowering costs for working families.
00:14:28.000 This is, I think, what people mean when they say that the mainstream media are out of touch and that the government are out of touch.
00:14:34.000 This is not the correct tone for what's happening in American public life right now.
00:14:39.000 There's a deterioration in the standards of living.
00:14:42.000 I think Americans are feeling persecuted, penalized, struggling with the ongoing war, energy crisis, energy prices, grocery crisis, grocery prices, and to hear your vice president say this is the champion of America before introducing a highly diluted, weak booster shot of a policy that's been tested on less than eight mouses, if you ask me.
00:15:02.000 Seems like the worst kind of political rhetoric, but let me know what you think in the comments.
00:15:06.000 Let me know what you think in the chat.
00:15:08.000 Nodaganoku says, this is the kind of deflective doublespeak that we've got used to.
00:15:13.000 Brilliant.
00:15:14.000 TrueChimera says, no wonder she can't handle her life.
00:15:17.000 Oh, they've got the other guy to make Biden look young, says someone, but remember that guy, that dude ain't well, so he's exempted from any critiques because we looked into it because you know
00:15:25.000 you know me I would have been looking for a joke all over the place but that fella is actually um
00:15:29.000 unwell and deserves naught but compassion but Joe Biden there is he a champion is that
00:15:33.000 what you guys think let me know let me know in the comments guys in every way and thank you to all
00:15:38.000 of the members of congress for the work that you have done and continue to do to help us
00:15:43.000 achieve this type of progress your tireless work Yeah, thank you for all that lobbying money that you took from the big pharma industry.
00:15:52.000 8.6 million dollars Joe Biden took.
00:15:54.000 That must have been so... How did you even carry it with your fragile little arms?
00:15:58.000 Hunter's laptop under one arm, a big bundle of money under the other, no corruption, nothing to see here.
00:16:04.000 And I'm certainly not alleging that there is.
00:16:08.000 Any corruption, because there's sort of no proof.
00:16:10.000 But I think it's worth noting that, listen to this, in all, the Build Back Better drug pricing framework is not a bad outcome for the pharmaceutical industry.
00:16:20.000 Most drugs won't be affected by negotiations, the analysis said, and ultimately they entice drug makers to boost their products' launch prices.
00:16:28.000 Pharmaceutical companies in the US raised drug prices 1,186 times in 2022.
00:16:30.000 The pharmaceutical and health products industries Spent.
00:16:36.000 Get ready for this important piece of news and let me know in the chat if you think this is relevant to this story.
00:16:41.000 263 million dollars on lobbying in Washington and let me know should that practice be banned?
00:16:46.000 Why are we having these conversations about Trump and Biden and Republicanism versus the Democrats when we know that unless that is altered you are going to get a comparable paradigm no matter who's in office.
00:16:59.000 Ban it!
00:17:00.000 Ban it today!
00:17:01.000 Change it right now!
00:17:02.000 Don't accept those donations.
00:17:04.000 Why is that impossible?
00:17:05.000 Why is that implausible?
00:17:06.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments if you think that would make a difference and if you have any hope that such a thing could ever occur.
00:17:13.000 In 2021, Democrats accounted for roughly 60% of the $177 million in pharmaceutical industry lobbying and campaign donations.
00:17:21.000 Do you think that kind of leverage amounts to the ability to alter decisions, i.e.
00:17:28.000 The policy begins as, we are going to cap all drug prices, and ends up as, for senior citizens, for this handful of drugs, as long as there is no generic competition, and the drug's been on the market for nine years, we will introduce control.
00:17:43.000 To see Kamala Harris talk about this, you'd think she was announcing endless orgasms for everyone.
00:17:49.000 It's an extraordinary piece of rhetoric.
00:17:52.000 Let's see how it plays out.
00:17:53.000 So we are here today with the firm belief That in the United States of America, no senior should ever have to choose between whether they are able to fill a prescription.
00:18:06.000 Or whether or not their son works for Burisma, or whether or not they have a hell of a time with their hobbies.
00:18:14.000 Or fill their refrigerator with food.
00:18:18.000 But for you, yes.
00:18:19.000 No, actually, yes, clapping.
00:18:22.000 Because we know for years, far too many of our seniors, millions of our seniors across
00:18:36.000 the country have struggled to afford their prescriptions.
00:18:41.000 And too many of our seniors risked their health as they may have delayed to refill their prescription or they cut their pills in half to try and stretch out the length of time that they could take their medication.
00:18:58.000 One of the things that's astonishing, as revealed by David Sirota in his article in The Lever, is that the National Academy of Sciences tells the story that the federal government spent $100 billion to subsidize the research on every single one of the 200-plus drugs approved for sale in the United States between 2010 and 2016.
00:19:14.000 Those subsidies, of course, that's your money, that's your taxpayer dollar.
00:19:19.000 Because we, the public, invested early in these medicines, we reduced the R&D, research and development costs, for pharmaceutical companies.
00:19:25.000 Therefore, on the back end, the public should have received some sort of return in the form of affordable prices.
00:19:30.000 So this shouldn't be applauded.
00:19:32.000 This should be, we're so sorry this has taken so long and that it's not as good as we initially promised.
00:19:36.000 And there's clearly been radically altered and re-legislated by the drug companies themselves in order to not ultimately affect their profits.
00:19:45.000 That's what the speech should look like.
00:19:47.000 But look at what it does look like.
00:19:48.000 And then ask yourself why populism is on the rise.
00:19:52.000 Why figures like RFK and Donald Trump are so effective.
00:19:55.000 This is the alternative.
00:19:57.000 This is the problem.
00:19:58.000 So since we took office, President Biden and I and our administration has taken historic, historic action to cut the cost of prescription medication for our seniors.
00:20:09.000 We capped the cost of insulin at $35 a month.
00:20:16.000 We will cap the total cost of prescription drugs at $2,000 a year.
00:20:26.000 Sometimes when I watch it, even as a person who spends a lot of time thinking about these issues, looking at this stuff, I kind of start to get baffled and think, oh no, maybe it is good because they seem so certain.
00:20:36.000 It's truly Orwellian.
00:20:38.000 Well look, even $2,000 a year is a huge amount of money for a great many people in America.
00:20:44.000 And when you're paying 1,000 times more than people are paying in other countries for the very same drugs, that's incredible.
00:20:50.000 And when she talks about historic, you know what she's not talking about is the historic reasons why we're in the situation in the first place that involved the Clinton administration, Joe Biden himself and Obama in making sure that we're in the situation that we are now.
00:21:03.000 Let's read that segment from Sirota's article in The Lever, which of course is a left-wing publication, but the analysis is fantastic.
00:21:09.000 This is why we so strongly believe that we have to look for new alliances, new systems, new narratives.
00:21:15.000 In the mid-90s, that business axiom was tossed out when drug lobbyists persuaded the Clinton administration to repeal rules that allowed federal officials to require government-subsidized drugs to be offered to Americans at a reasonable price.
00:21:27.000 So Clinton changed that legislation.
00:21:29.000 A few years later, Congress, with then-Senator Joe Biden's help, so check this out, Biden voted down legislation to reinstate these rules.
00:21:37.000 That was an opportunity deliberately missed and denied.
00:21:40.000 And later, the Obama administration rejected House Democrats' request that federal officials at least provide guidelines to government agencies about how they can exercise the remaining powers to combat drug price gouging.
00:21:52.000 So this is a story that's been presented to you as a great victory, as a delivery on an election promise, as a victory for the American people.
00:22:00.000 It's nothing of the sort.
00:22:02.000 It's masking ineptitude and corruption And you don't need me to tell you that.
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00:22:42.000 We've got Barry Weiss joining us there, one of the great journalists that broke the Twitter file story.
00:22:46.000 She's going to be talking to us about a fantastic event and debate that she's hosting in LA pretty soon.
00:22:50.000 We're going to be looking at CNN questioning Fauci's masks deal.
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00:23:27.000 This is the way that the news should be conveyed, isn't it?
00:23:29.000 Like a shanty.
00:23:29.000 Absolutely, y'all.
00:23:31.000 Like, you see, we're the new Oliver Antney, aren't we?
00:23:33.000 Absolutely, we are.
00:23:34.000 We're populists.
00:23:35.000 We're singing a song.
00:23:36.000 Ah, you bloody rich pigs up there!
00:23:38.000 You stinking world don't understand me, you shits!
00:23:41.000 They'll probably play this in the primaries, I imagine.
00:23:43.000 I would say so.
00:23:44.000 This is a good way.
00:23:45.000 Democrats or Republicans.
00:23:46.000 I'm not fussy.
00:23:47.000 I'm ignoring all of them.
00:23:48.000 We'll take the royalties from anyone.
00:23:49.000 We'll take them royalties, baby.
00:23:51.000 We'll take the bloody lot.
00:23:52.000 OK, over in our country, schools are getting shut because they can't even keep the roof on the building.
00:23:57.000 Why is it concrete safety?
00:23:59.000 Hot on the heels of the dreadful Grenfell disaster, where a building burned down due to poor regulation and lack of council culpability.
00:24:08.000 The Prime Minister has been accused of cutting back repair efforts when he was Chancellor.
00:24:12.000 Education Secretary Gillian Keegan was forced to apologise after she was caught complaining to a TV reporter others with responsibility for school repairs had sat on their arse rather than act.
00:24:21.000 It feels that our schools could crumble on our children's heads.
00:24:27.000 Let's have a look, though.
00:24:28.000 I want to move on to the Fauci story, if that's okay, guys, before we talk to Barry Weiss.
00:24:33.000 Let's just have a quick glance at what the CNN questions Fauci on masks.
00:24:38.000 Is this a recent story, Gail?
00:24:39.000 What's going on here, mate?
00:24:40.000 Obviously, there's a lot of talk at the moment about mask mandates coming back.
00:24:43.000 And Donald Trump has spoken about it.
00:24:45.000 Interesting situation that's going on with Donald Trump at the moment.
00:24:47.000 Very much pushing back against mask mandates, vaccines, when obviously we know at the start of the lockdowns that he was massively behind those beautiful vaccines.
00:24:56.000 He's done a complete about-turn.
00:24:59.000 Yeah, he's done a real about-turn.
00:25:00.000 Anyway, so mask mandates is in the news.
00:25:03.000 Fauci's back as a result, but some very interesting reports about masks and their efficacy.
00:25:07.000 Fauci's back.
00:25:08.000 All right, let's see what he's got to say.
00:25:11.000 Uh, Bret Stephens in the Times talked about Cochran.
00:25:13.000 Put that on the screen.
00:25:14.000 The most rigorous and comprehensive... I don't even like the way he spoke to his people in graphics there.
00:25:19.000 Put that on the screen!
00:25:20.000 That's not how we talk to bad graphics, Jack, is it?
00:25:21.000 No, we're very nice to him.
00:25:22.000 We're nice to him and you should see the state of his graphics.
00:25:50.000 Now let me know right now.
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00:25:53.000 Do you think that Fauci should face a reckoning?
00:25:56.000 Some people have said that Fauci should be arrested, that Fauci should face criminal charges.
00:26:02.000 Hit the red button, let me know what you think about it.
00:26:05.000 Let's see the rest of this news clip.
00:26:06.000 But wait, hold on.
00:26:07.000 What about the N95 masks as opposed to the lower quality surgical or cloth masks?
00:26:12.000 makes no difference, none of it, he said.
00:26:14.000 Well, what about the studies that initially persuaded policy makers to impose mask mandates?
00:26:19.000 They were convinced by non-randomized studies, flawed observational studies.
00:26:24.000 How do we get beyond that finding?
00:26:27.000 There's an irony to this being on CNN now, isn't there?
00:26:30.000 Right, after all of the ivermectin, horse paste, shame...
00:26:34.000 Shame them.
00:26:35.000 Right.
00:26:35.000 They should be shamed.
00:26:36.000 They should be shamed.
00:26:37.000 Everyone here, in our chat, I've never seen the chat light up like this.
00:26:40.000 I've never seen free speech flow quite so freely in abundant rivers.
00:26:44.000 Everyone, he should be given daily boosters until he's no more.
00:26:48.000 He should face trial.
00:26:49.000 Fauci's a mass murderer.
00:26:51.000 This is extraordinary.
00:26:53.000 Everyone is united in their loathing of Fauci.
00:26:56.000 Of that particular review.
00:27:00.000 Yeah, but there are other studies, Michael, that show... Look at the face of that dude on the news!
00:27:04.000 Look at that!
00:27:04.000 That's too scary!
00:27:05.000 Why is he doing that?
00:27:08.000 That's the scrutiny you should have been applying when all this stuff was being set up!
00:27:11.000 Yeah, they should have had that hymn next to Don Lemon when Don Lemon said that.
00:27:15.000 Now what do you mean by that, Don?
00:27:17.000 Don!
00:27:18.000 How can you justify that?
00:27:19.000 I will eat you with my eyes!
00:27:21.000 I will turn you into a molecular compound with my eyes and then heal you with ivermectin, you son of a bitch!
00:27:32.000 I don't like to think of making love with that man.
00:27:35.000 If that's how he looks when he chats to Anthony Fauci, how would he deal with it if he and I, after a lovely evening of... Go on, set the scene.
00:27:44.000 Simple.
00:27:44.000 I can do it in an instant.
00:27:45.000 Lady and the Tramp.
00:27:46.000 We've had a bowl of spaghetti.
00:27:48.000 He's sucking on one end of the spaghetti.
00:27:50.000 I'm sucking on the other end of the spaghetti.
00:27:52.000 Hold on a minute.
00:27:53.000 It's the same bit of bloody spaghetti, innit?
00:27:56.000 And then look at his face.
00:27:57.000 He's looking at me like that, like, who gonna get this last bit of spaghetti?
00:28:00.000 And I'll go, well, why don't we just both keep sucking on this spaghetti and see who can generate the biggest oral vacuum, my man?
00:28:06.000 And I would say he will create an oral vacuum that'll be like a black hole, like string theory.
00:28:11.000 I think his eyes are attached to another dimension.
00:28:13.000 I worry about your mind sometimes.
00:28:14.000 So it's gonna be okay.
00:28:15.000 Okay.
00:28:16.000 It's gonna be okay.
00:28:17.000 It's just me and that guy need to bed down quietly and express ourselves erotically.
00:28:21.000 The effect on the epidemic or the pandemic as a whole, the data are less strong.
00:28:29.000 Yeah, okay, mate.
00:28:30.000 That's the kind of causistry, the kind of sophistry, the kind of Fauci-ing we've come to know and recognise.
00:28:37.000 If you've come here for truth, you will not be disappointed because we are being joined now by a fantastic, epochal and significant journalist, Barry Weiss, founder of The Free Press and the Honestly podcast is joining us.
00:28:51.000 Now, Barry, you're here because you're doing this.
00:28:53.000 Hello, mate.
00:28:54.000 Nice to see you, mate.
00:28:54.000 You look nice.
00:28:56.000 Nice to see you too.
00:28:57.000 I don't know how I'm going to follow faecal matter on planes and underwear swag, but I'm going to do my best.
00:29:01.000 Pretty easy, I would have thought.
00:29:03.000 Just put the two together and you've got yourself a hell of a podcast.
00:29:07.000 Barry, mate, first of all, why don't we say we get it done?
00:29:10.000 Why don't we talk about your debate on has the sexual revolution failed?
00:29:15.000 Who's participating in that?
00:29:16.000 Where's it taking place?
00:29:17.000 It sounds brilliant.
00:29:19.000 I love you for letting me plug this.
00:29:20.000 September 13th in L.A.
00:29:22.000 at the Ace Theatre, downtown, 7 p.m.
00:29:24.000 We have an unbelievable lineup.
00:29:25.000 The proposition is, has the sexual revolution failed?
00:29:29.000 We have Sarah Hader and Grimes facing off against Louise Perry, coming over from the U.K., and Anna Katchian, one of the co-hosts of Red Scare.
00:29:38.000 The event is going to be opened by none other than feminist icon and hashtag ally, Tim Dillon.
00:29:43.000 It's going to be a blast.
00:29:44.000 For anyone in L.A., we'd love to see you there.
00:29:46.000 post the link in the description that sounds like a fantastic debate I think
00:29:50.000 we could all be better educated on that topic it sounds like you've put together
00:29:53.000 an incredible roster of people and who knows may show up I remember we've played
00:29:57.000 that Ace Theatre Gal I can remember doing shows there in Los Angeles lovely
00:30:01.000 little venue if you are in LA at that time go along join it educate yourself
00:30:05.000 and like I think this is important Like, you know, we recorded our conversation with Sam Harris the other day, and we saw many, many issues quite distinctly and often opposingly.
00:30:15.000 And it was, I would say, valuable, I hope, for both of us to have that conversation.
00:30:20.000 I certainly enjoy speaking to people that I disagree with, but also people like you, who I broadly do agree with, Barry.
00:30:26.000 Yeah, I mean, one of the reasons we started the Free Press was because we had a question, and that question was, do Americans still want real journalism?
00:30:36.000 Do Americans and people beyond America, do people in the West, is the English-speaking world still want lively, honest, fair, sober, provocative debate?
00:30:47.000 Or do they just want the sort of Pre-masticated ideological mush that those of us who left the mainstream were being asked to produce.
00:30:56.000 And the answer has come back to us over the past two years as a resounding yes.
00:30:59.000 So we're super excited to put on our first live debate, and we hope it's going to be the first in sort of a national series of debates about urgent conversations, the kind of conversations that people have in private, but often are too scared to have out loud in public.
00:31:14.000 That's what we're about.
00:31:14.000 Super excited.
00:31:15.000 Well done.
00:31:16.000 What fantastic service you're doing.
00:31:18.000 That pre-masticated mush of the mainstream.
00:31:21.000 I'm sick of swallowing down that swill.
00:31:24.000 I should rather lick the corridor of a Delta plane than devour that mainstream mush.
00:31:29.000 Now, Barry, can I ask you, mate, What do you think about Tucker's claim about the potential for Trump to be assassinated?
00:31:38.000 Hyperbole?
00:31:39.000 Ludicrousness?
00:31:40.000 And how does it compare to Maddow's claim that Trump would declare himself dictator to life?
00:31:45.000 Are both sides, let's call it that, guilty of a hollow rhetoric?
00:31:49.000 Or do you think there's more veracity in one of those claims than others?
00:31:52.000 I think that it's hyperbolic.
00:31:54.000 I think it's actually emblematic of the entire sort of media landscape we're living in, in which, you know, it feels often to many of us like you have the choice.
00:32:02.000 You have the choice to listen to someone who's talking about the president or the former president getting assassinated, or you have the choice to listen to someone who's suggesting that we live in a dictatorship.
00:32:12.000 I think one of the reasons for the rise of independent media is because people are sick of those being their only options.
00:32:21.000 People are sick of a media that polarizes us further, that makes us more hysterical, more panicked, more fearful, more isolated, more lonely, and they're looking for something Different.
00:32:33.000 And I think one of the reasons for the rise of independent podcasting for the kind of Wild West, you know, Cambrian explosion we're living through, to mix like five metaphors, sorry, it's early here, is because of that.
00:32:46.000 So I saw both of those comments and I kind of rolled my eyes and went back to doing my actual work, to be honest with you.
00:32:52.000 I'm not sure what you thought of those comments.
00:32:54.000 Certainly a lot of people really value the important work you're doing.
00:32:58.000 Ashella in our chat, mate, over on Locals, if you want to join us in Locals, not you, Barry, you've got work to do.
00:33:04.000 You've got a bloody debate to put on by everyone else.
00:33:06.000 Like, press the red button and join us in Locals.
00:33:08.000 Ashella asks, Russ, ask Barry if she still backs RFK Jr.
00:33:13.000 for president.
00:33:13.000 And just to answer your question to me, yes, of course, I think both statements are somewhat hyperbolic, but presidents have been assassinated before.
00:33:20.000 I think Tucker He's an excellent orator and built his arguments beautiful in the same conversation when he talked about the potential for the Cold War and the proxy current proxy war to become a hot war.
00:33:31.000 I think he walked us through that in a way that's very identifiable easy conversational and in a sense is shows you like the almost the molecular structure of his ability and the reason he's become so successful.
00:33:42.000 he can walk you through an argument, even if it's an argument you wouldn't receive elsewhere.
00:33:47.000 And when I saw Maddow, I thought that what irritates me is the pose of rationalism accompanied
00:33:53.000 by hysterical messaging. That's what sort of irritated me about that. But Ashela's question
00:33:58.000 to you, mate, is this, do you still back RFK Jr? And it does relate to the other stuff,
00:34:03.000 really, because he's a person who's galvanizing this space.
00:34:06.000 Um, Ashela, thanks for the question.
00:34:06.000 Right.
00:34:08.000 I don't back any—I'm a journalist.
00:34:10.000 I don't publicly come out in support of anyone for president.
00:34:13.000 I'm extremely interested in what RFK has to say.
00:34:16.000 I was really happy to have him on my podcast.
00:34:18.000 He's one of nine presidential candidates that have so far been on Honestly.
00:34:21.000 We're hoping to get all of them.
00:34:23.000 And I've had interesting conversations with people like RFK, like Vivek, like Chris Christie,
00:34:29.000 like Nikki Haley, Tim Scott.
00:34:31.000 All these people have been on Honestly.
00:34:32.000 We want to put together a presidential debate, actually, with some of them, which we think
00:34:35.000 could be incredibly interesting.
00:34:37.000 But I haven't endorsed him.
00:34:38.000 I haven't endorsed anyone for president.
00:34:40.000 Am I happy to see people trying to challenge Joe Biden and Donald Trump, neither of whom
00:34:47.000 I think — neither of whom most people I know would be excited to vote for?
00:34:51.000 And the answer to that is absolutely yes.
00:34:53.000 What I'm interested in is the phenomenon of these people.
00:34:56.000 How is it that someone like RFK, how is it like someone like Vivek Ramaswamy, who's, I think, 38 years old, how are these people sort of coming out, political neophytes, never having run for office, and garnering the kind of support they're getting?
00:35:10.000 You can say it's because of the ideas they're putting forward, or you could also say that it's because of how frustrated Americans are with these terrible choices.
00:35:19.000 Choices that I think many of us are shocked that we're actually going to be in this same scenario yet again in 2024.
00:35:26.000 So I'm very interested in these people that are popping up and can continue to host, I think, challenging and fair conversations with all of them.
00:35:34.000 Barry, the moment that you participated in the Twitterphile revelations, it seemed like that platform was significantly changed, perhaps forever, with Elon's acquisition.
00:35:47.000 But now with the name changed to X and the emergence of peculiar phrases like lawful but awful content.
00:35:53.000 And similarly, I feel like YouTube pulled a Jordan Peterson RFK video.
00:35:59.000 Do you feel that we're seeing a new mutation Look, I think that we're living... One of the big themes of our era, of our epoch, is the question of what do we do?
00:36:17.000 Given the fact that the Town Square has been digitized, what do we do about the fact that the Town Square is not a place that you go to, a place paid by citizens, by taxpayers, but are private companies run by a handful of billionaires, right?
00:36:33.000 What is the Town Square?
00:36:34.000 The Town Square is Twitter.
00:36:35.000 The Town Square is YouTube.
00:36:37.000 The Town Square is Facebook.
00:36:38.000 The Town Square is Amazon.
00:36:40.000 The Town Square is certainly Google, which I think has something like 90% market share.
00:36:45.000 And what do you do about the fact that these places are controlled by a handful of private citizens who are redefining what violence is, who are redefining what acceptable speech is?
00:36:58.000 The question is not should there or should there not be guardrails, right?
00:37:03.000 There's always going to be guardrails on any of these platforms.
00:37:06.000 But the question is, what is constituting hateful speech?
00:37:11.000 And what is sort of normal or controversial speech that's being redefined as hate speech?
00:37:17.000 Is, for example, talking about the lab leak at the height of COVID.
00:37:21.000 Should that be constituted as hate speech?
00:37:23.000 Should that be banned?
00:37:24.000 That's what happened on Twitter.
00:37:25.000 In the case of Jordan Peterson, I believe that the video that was banned is a video of a conversation that he had with the Irish journalist Helen Joyce, questioning whether or not children can consent to lifelong medical changes with gender transition.
00:37:40.000 Should that be an open conversation we're able to have in public or not?
00:37:44.000 That is really the question.
00:37:45.000 I think often what's the caricature of it is that the left is saying,
00:37:49.000 the right doesn't want any guardrails at all.
00:37:52.000 And the right is saying any guardrails are horrific censorship.
00:37:55.000 And the question has always been and remains today, were the guardrails,
00:38:00.000 and is the thing that so many of us sort of on, whatever you want to call us,
00:38:03.000 the true liberals or the dissident liberals.
00:38:05.000 I think the thing that we're reacting to is not that we want to be on platforms
00:38:10.000 that are overrun by Nazis and marijuana ads, which is like all I'm getting served these days on Twitter
00:38:16.000 or now X.
00:38:17.000 But should we be able to have open conversations about things like
00:38:21.000 public health?
00:38:22.000 About biology, about politics.
00:38:24.000 That is the real question.
00:38:26.000 And I think it remains to be seen whether or not under Elon Musk's Twitter, or X as I know we're supposed to call it now, the Twitter files have become the X files, whether or not that's going to be the case.
00:38:39.000 And it's an open question because in the very same way that a handful of people ran it, well now it's just a different handful of people.
00:38:46.000 With different political biases and different potential power trips.
00:38:50.000 And I think anyone who has learned anything over the past decade or so, as we've seen the rise of big tech, should always be skeptical when so much power is in the hands of so few people.
00:39:04.000 Yes, it seems that what you're proposing, or at least ruminating on, is the potential for a kind of consensual regulation that is democratic.
00:39:14.000 And in a way, that's what I'm appealing for, examining, praying for, across many of our institutions, the possibility for a new type of consensual governance.
00:39:26.000 Democracy, I think is a the other word for it, the way that you feel that you have
00:39:30.000 some purchase, some ability to communicate rather than top-down government that appears to have been
00:39:35.000 co-opted by financial corporate interests and that use the ideology simply as leverage to
00:39:40.000 curb and control debate and conversation.
00:39:42.000 Well, like the beauty of this country is that, you know, is that when we go to that physical
00:39:49.000 town square, we have the Bill of Rights, we have the Constitution, we have the First Amendment.
00:39:55.000 When we go into this new digital town square, we have none of those things.
00:39:59.000 And the question is, like, how can we have a sort of political and cultural software update to meet the technological update that we've already lived through?
00:40:08.000 That is the big challenge, I think, of the next decade.
00:40:11.000 And, you know, the high school answer, of course, is they're private companies.
00:40:15.000 They can do whatever they want.
00:40:16.000 And the people that are making that argument, of course, are people that would never say that about something like big tobacco, which makes you wonder like what their actual principle is, right?
00:40:27.000 The more challenging answer is, you know, are they actually something more like public utilities?
00:40:32.000 Should they be regulated like the railroad has been, like the electricity company is, right?
00:40:38.000 We don't cut someone off of their ability to get on Amtrak or their ability to turn on their lights because they believe in QAnon, but we might unperson them on the internet because of that.
00:40:48.000 And so that is the big challenge.
00:40:50.000 We are living through this technological revolution, but we don't yet have the political, the social, or the cultural updates to meet that technological change.
00:41:02.000 What that change is going to look like, what the regulation should look like, what the relationship between individual people with individual rights should be to these big tech behemoths.
00:41:15.000 That, to me, is one of the most urgent questions of our day.
00:41:19.000 And I think that, you know, if you're interested in democracy, if you're interested in free speech, if you're interested in individual dignity, really, those are the questions you have to be asking yourself.
00:41:29.000 Is Barry right about those questions?
00:41:30.000 Let me know in the chat.
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00:41:46.000 Or anywhere.
00:41:47.000 Now, you can't stop these subcutaneous energetic forces rising up, whether it's Delta Diarrhoea or the phenomena of Oliver Antony emerging into cyberspace, a hirsute and auburn wonder Piping and stringing and strumming new rhythms into the world.
00:42:07.000 What do you make of the Oliver Antony phenomenon?
00:42:09.000 Do you think he's another example of the left looking for traitors and the right looking for converts?
00:42:14.000 How are you seeing this subject treated and what are your views on it, mate?
00:42:19.000 I'm speechless by your ability to connect diarrhea on the airplane to Oliver Anthony, but here we go.
00:42:25.000 Russell Brand, one in a million.
00:42:26.000 Look, I think Oliver Anthony, think about the lyrics that he's singing.
00:42:31.000 He sings about the sort of, they're unnamed as sort of the elites or big tech, but he says, they just want to have total control.
00:42:36.000 They want to know what you do.
00:42:38.000 He talks about living in a new world with an old soul.
00:42:41.000 It's exactly what we've been talking about.
00:42:43.000 How did this 31-year-old emerge from the woods of Virginia to capture the nation and beyond the nation?
00:42:53.000 Added this song to it.
00:42:54.000 Well, first of all, it's just that the song is good.
00:42:56.000 It's an unbelievable earworm, and it's completely authentic, and you feel that from him.
00:43:00.000 But I think the deeper reason is that he is speaking to themes that are so resonant with so many people in this country, right?
00:43:09.000 It's a working class anthem.
00:43:12.000 Think about old Bruce Springsteen songs, right?
00:43:16.000 That's what he's doing here.
00:43:18.000 Now, the thing that is, like, tragic and emblematic of our current moment is that immediately when that song comes out, he's taken up as sort of a saint by the political right that thinks he's on their side, and he's in turn vilified by the left.
00:43:35.000 There were some unbelievable stories in places like NPR and Rolling Stone trying to demonize him.
00:43:40.000 And then he sits down with Rupa Sabarmania, who works for the Free Press, the night of the first RNC debate.
00:43:46.000 She flew from Ottawa to Virginia to go to his concert and see if he would talk to her, and he graciously did.
00:43:51.000 She got the first and I think the best interview.
00:43:53.000 Wow, well done.
00:43:55.000 And what he said was...
00:43:57.000 It's so strange to me.
00:43:59.000 It's baffling to me that I'm sort of being taken up as this totem.
00:44:03.000 My song was not just about the left.
00:44:05.000 My song was equally about the right that has gotten us into useless wars.
00:44:09.000 If you'll remember, the first question, Russell, the night of that RNC debate, was just a clip of him singing.
00:44:15.000 And then the moderators asked Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, why does this song have so much resonance?
00:44:20.000 Right?
00:44:21.000 The assumption sort of being that it was a sort of cultural anthem of the political right.
00:44:26.000 And here's Oliver Anthony saying, no, no, no, you're not getting it.
00:44:29.000 You guys aren't getting it.
00:44:30.000 What this is about is a cultural class, the elite class.
00:44:36.000 That is deeply out of touch with people like me, people like Oliver Anthony who worked the overnight shift in a paper mill for $14 an hour.
00:44:44.000 It's about the fact that there's been no accountability.
00:44:47.000 It's about the fact that there's been no sort of comeuppance for these people that have gotten so many things wrong.
00:44:53.000 And what's his answer?
00:44:54.000 His answer is just, and I urge people to read the piece, it's a deeply humane one.
00:45:00.000 It's about the fact that looking to politicians for our salvation Salvation's never gonna come from people in Washington, or as he puts it, rich men north of Richmond.
00:45:08.000 It's gonna come, as he says, from us putting down our phones and starting to talk to one another again.
00:45:13.000 Oh my God!
00:45:14.000 It's Ginger Jesus!
00:45:16.000 I love him!
00:45:16.000 Let's get Oliver Antony on the show, James.
00:45:18.000 You're reaching out to him.
00:45:19.000 Take me to Appalachia, like Barry Weiss's colleagues there at Free Press.
00:45:23.000 I'm gonna climb me them mountains.
00:45:25.000 Get me some dungarees and some snow boots.
00:45:28.000 I don't know what they do in Appalachia.
00:45:29.000 I want to meet that man!
00:45:31.000 I'm in England!
00:45:34.000 That's pretty fascinating, that.
00:45:36.000 Do you know what I'm minded to at least recount, recite, to tell you, Barry, is that for a while I've been feeling that the problem with the left is that they abandoned ordinary working people they actually don't like.
00:45:50.000 ordinary working people. So I have to find ways to vilify them. Your views are not progressive
00:45:55.000 enough, you ain't advanced, and then like in a sense you can see in all of the Oliver
00:45:59.000 Antony phenomena, that a sort of a trend that's been prevailing since the Democrats under Clinton
00:46:05.000 and the Labour Party under Tony Blair abandoned ordinary working people. They had to justify it
00:46:12.000 by saying ordinary working people needed to change.
00:46:14.000 The problem's not that we don't care anymore about representing the interests of ordinary Americans or ordinary Brits against the elites and the establishment and corporatised state institutions.
00:46:25.000 The problem is that ordinary Americans and ordinary Brits are somehow disgusting and racist.
00:46:30.000 They vote for Brexit, they vote for Trump without looking at what conditions People are enduring.
00:46:36.000 And I suppose that there is mitigation against the charge that these bourgeois elites are uncaring by saying, well, we do care about these marginal minority issues.
00:46:47.000 Look, we really care about them.
00:46:48.000 Unlike working people, which I think is erroneous and false and which are actually in practice, in policy, in behavior, in conduct.
00:46:56.000 I don't see a great deal of compassion.
00:46:58.000 I don't see Yeah, I think that there's an obsession on identity as a distraction from focusing on class.
00:47:04.000 to support. Do you think that there's something of that about all this, mate?
00:47:08.000 Yeah, I think that there's an obsession on identity as a distraction from focusing on class.
00:47:15.000 And I think that if you look at the demonization of someone whose message is so
00:47:20.000 obviously authentic and obviously true of his experience, writing him off as sort of like,
00:47:29.000 you know, this avatar of cisgender male patriarchal race, it's ridiculous. And in a way that this was
00:47:37.000 a really good case study, because anyone with eyes and ears could hear that this person was
00:47:43.000 singing from such a true place about such a real phenomenon.
00:47:47.000 And in the weeks since he's sort of had this overnight unbelievable fame he's been
00:47:51.000 offered, incredible deals and he's sort of resisting all of it and
00:47:55.000 saying no I want to stay true to myself and I don't want to lose myself and lose my message by
00:48:01.000 getting swept up in the very thing I'm trying to criticize he's a really interesting figure, I think Rogan had him on
00:48:06.000 a few days ago but you guys should definitely have him on Get him on! Get him on!
00:48:11.000 Drag him down by his ginger!
00:48:13.000 But we'll go there to them mountains if we have to.
00:48:15.000 I'll go to that paper mill.
00:48:16.000 I'll do a shift.
00:48:17.000 I'm gonna need 30 or 40 dollars an hour.
00:48:19.000 But I will go to that bloody paper mill.
00:48:21.000 I can't do a whole night shift.
00:48:22.000 Not with my... with my hands?
00:48:24.000 It wouldn't work.
00:48:24.000 No.
00:48:25.000 I'd think of a paper cuts.
00:48:27.000 Oh, they'd sting like hell.
00:48:28.000 Do they provide gloves and masks and social distancing?
00:48:31.000 If they provide that, I'm in.
00:48:33.000 Hey, guys, uh, you can go... Guys, I...
00:48:36.000 Well, I just, I think it also speaks to something that I'm really interested in, which is like, where is the real mainstream?
00:48:44.000 You know, the minutes I was listening to you guys talk, you're like, this is what the mainstream says.
00:48:49.000 This is what the mainstream says.
00:48:50.000 And I get it, right?
00:48:52.000 But I started to think about that as like, no, this is what the legacy institutions say, because all of Redepenny is the real mainstream, right?
00:48:59.000 Look at this movie, The Sound of Freedom.
00:49:01.000 Right?
00:49:01.000 The Sound of Freedom, which was made by Angel Studios, I had never heard of Angel Studios, beat Mission Impossible at the box office, which was put out by Paramount, right?
00:49:13.000 I don't even think it was reviewed by the so-called mainstream institutions.
00:49:16.000 How does that happen?
00:49:18.000 I think one of the things happening is that like the real mainstream just isn't represented by a lot of places that That's brilliant, Barry.
00:49:27.000 I mean, yeah, it's just like these institutions never represented the interests of ordinary people.
00:49:31.000 It's just before they never had an alternative.
00:49:33.000 Take your medicine, eat your filthy culture.
00:49:36.000 Now, because of this technology and communications miracle, it's possible to provide alternatives.
00:49:40.000 That's why you have to establish a means and legitimize censorship.
00:49:44.000 Otherwise, what we learn is this culture is entirely non-representative.
00:49:47.000 It will atrophy and die, and people will build a new culture that absolutely ignores it.
00:49:53.000 What about that, mate?
00:49:56.000 Yes.
00:49:58.000 Yes.
00:50:01.000 Don't patronize me from probably from New York.
00:50:06.000 I'm in L.A.
00:50:07.000 actually right now.
00:50:08.000 That's worse.
00:50:10.000 Me and Oliver Antony, we're in the paper mill.
00:50:13.000 We are there.
00:50:14.000 We are sick and tired of these cuts on our fingers, aren't we?
00:50:21.000 I'm going to need another manicure.
00:50:22.000 I've not had a manicure since the beginning.
00:50:24.000 Where is my manicurist?
00:50:26.000 Get this man a manicure and a facial.
00:50:28.000 No, look at those soft hands.
00:50:29.000 No, look, I think we're living in this in-between moment, right?
00:50:34.000 Joe Rogan gets more viewers, more listeners in one episode than CNN gets in a week, right?
00:50:41.000 It's just like we're living in this in-between time where those places still have the prestige.
00:50:47.000 They often still have the means of distribution.
00:50:50.000 And you have all of these things sort of popping up, new podcasts, new sub stack, new
00:50:54.000 newsletters, new YouTubes, new rum, whatever, right? And people are trying to find
00:51:00.000 them. And that's the challenge, right?
00:51:02.000 For people like me that sort of live on the internet, I know where to look. And I know how
00:51:06.000 to sort of separate the wheat from the chaff. If you're a busy lawyer, you're a busy accountant,
00:51:10.000 you're a busy doctor, you're like, I don't have time to read 20 different newsletters and listen
00:51:14.000 to 20 different podcasts and like, give me one place.
00:51:17.000 And that's the question, right?
00:51:19.000 Is there going to be some kind of confederation between a lot of these indies?
00:51:23.000 How are we going to make it more convenient for people to find?
00:51:27.000 Right now, people are sort of following all of their different Oh, we might all team up like the Avengers.
00:51:34.000 trusted sources around the internet and I think a big question is in the next
00:51:38.000 five or ten years are we going to see a consolidation?
00:51:40.000 Oh well we might all team up like the Avengers.
00:51:44.000 Justice League baby.
00:51:47.000 Oh you've got an alternative.
00:51:49.000 All right, mate.
00:51:50.000 That's brilliant.
00:51:51.000 Thanks for coming on here, Barry.
00:51:52.000 Thanks for being so brilliant and fast and lurid and fast and vivid and quick and peculiar and strange, delightful and clever.
00:51:58.000 It's really brilliant to talk to you.
00:52:00.000 You're a joy.
00:52:01.000 You lot should go see Barry.
00:52:02.000 If you're in LA, go see Barry's event.
00:52:05.000 It's next Wednesday.
00:52:06.000 Go to thefp.com forward slash debates to see a proper debate about the sexual revolution.
00:52:12.000 Thank you so much.
00:52:12.000 Yeah?
00:52:13.000 Really, really look forward to seeing some of you there.
00:52:15.000 Do you think I did quite well there, Barry, overall?
00:52:17.000 Oh, no.
00:52:18.000 It was quite good.
00:52:19.000 Oh, no.
00:52:21.000 Immediate praise.
00:52:21.000 The questioning, the plug-in.
00:52:23.000 Wouldn't mind a bit of praise.
00:52:24.000 That's what me and Oliver Antony, we just need a bit of praise!
00:52:26.000 No, he doesn't need any.
00:52:27.000 I just need a bit of praise, not a paper mill!
00:52:31.000 Thank you guys so much.
00:52:32.000 Barry's just a professional person.
00:52:34.000 Very sensible, that's the right... See you later, Barry.
00:52:36.000 Good to see you again, mate.
00:52:37.000 Love to the family.
00:52:38.000 There she goes.
00:52:39.000 Great to see you too.
00:52:39.000 She's brilliant, isn't she?
00:52:41.000 There's that thing.
00:52:41.000 Bye.
00:52:42.000 As the sexual revolution failed, you can go and see that.
00:52:45.000 It sounds brilliant.
00:52:45.000 They're doing great work over there.
00:52:46.000 I think Barry Weiss is a journalist with integrity.
00:52:49.000 If you can go see it, go see it.
00:52:51.000 Why did you ask if you'd done well at the end?
00:52:53.000 I don't know why I felt a sudden urge to be approved of.
00:52:55.000 I don't know.
00:52:55.000 It just really came over me.
00:52:56.000 I couldn't control it.
00:52:58.000 If I could have controlled it, I should...
00:53:00.000 I should have controlled that.
00:53:00.000 You should have controlled it.
00:53:01.000 I'm a bit like Oliver Antony.
00:53:02.000 I just can't control myself.
00:53:03.000 Is that what?
00:53:04.000 I don't think he's like that.
00:53:05.000 Yeah, he's not like that.
00:53:06.000 Me and Oliver Antony can't control ourselves.
00:53:07.000 We need a... No, I think that's his point.
00:53:09.000 It's his... Our point!
00:53:11.000 No, it's not our.
00:53:14.000 Me and Oliver Antony, we're like the Proclaimers.
00:53:15.000 I actually would be in a band with him.
00:53:17.000 We're going to get that Oliver Antony by Jove.
00:53:19.000 You want to do a duet, don't you?
00:53:20.000 A bit, yeah.
00:53:21.000 I knew it.
00:53:22.000 As soon as I thought... I could see the cogs turning.
00:53:25.000 I thought, he's thinking about doing...
00:53:27.000 When the world slips you, Anthony, stroke his furry beard!
00:53:33.000 Stroke his furry beard!
00:53:36.000 Come on, Oliver Antony.
00:53:37.000 Wow.
00:53:37.000 Yeah?
00:53:37.000 What about that?
00:53:38.000 Jumping on his bandwagon.
00:53:39.000 Evil Wendy Bird says, I have a manicurist license.
00:53:43.000 Did you know manicurists required a license?
00:53:45.000 I did not know that.
00:53:45.000 No.
00:53:46.000 They do.
00:53:46.000 And Evil Wendy Bird has one.
00:53:48.000 We've got to get out there to Florida.
00:53:49.000 We've got to get out to America.
00:53:51.000 We've got to be in America.
00:53:52.000 We've got to get over there and make some choices and make some moves.
00:53:54.000 Is this because you want a pop career?
00:53:56.000 I don't think it's too late for me to become a pop starlet.
00:54:00.000 On tomorrow's show, we've got Brianna Joy Gray.
00:54:03.000 She's brilliant, we had her on before.
00:54:04.000 Wow, she's brilliant as well.
00:54:05.000 On Friday, I mean, I don't know if you've seen it online, but me and Sam Harris, we had a conversation and it got out of hand.
00:54:10.000 It certainly did!
00:54:13.000 I didn't know it was getting out of hand when it was happening.
00:54:15.000 I did, for the couple of hours I was sat in that room.
00:54:17.000 Why didn't you come and say something?
00:54:19.000 You should have said something.
00:54:20.000 You're supposed to say something when things go out of hand.
00:54:22.000 No, it's very good.
00:54:22.000 It's very good.
00:54:23.000 Yeah?
00:54:23.000 Very good.
00:54:24.000 Well, you can see it.
00:54:24.000 If you're a Locals member, you can see it right now.
00:54:26.000 Go and watch it.
00:54:27.000 Go see it in full.
00:54:28.000 See what all the fuss is about.
00:54:29.000 People are screen-grabbing it, putting it up on... It's good stuff.
00:54:31.000 XGONG, give it to ya.
00:54:33.000 Click that leg button.
00:54:34.000 Get yourself... Leg button.
00:54:35.000 Click my leg button!
00:54:37.000 What do you mean by leg button?
00:54:38.000 My winky!
00:54:40.000 Click that red button.
00:54:40.000 What do you mean by red button?
00:54:42.000 My winky!
00:54:43.000 Get yourself some Awakened Wonder Pants, as that guy calls them.
00:54:45.000 Are they for Oliver Anthony?
00:54:46.000 Dan NJ, huh?
00:54:47.000 Are they for Oliver Anthony?
00:54:48.000 Oliver, I got you some planty poo pots, Sonny Jim.
00:54:52.000 If that don't get you down from the mountain inside, I don't know what will!
00:54:56.000 Try them on for size down the paper mill.
00:54:58.000 He'll love them.
00:54:59.000 He's going to look lovely in them.
00:55:00.000 And hey, we'll send him a pair.
00:55:02.000 Yeah, so that's the next couple of shows.
00:55:04.000 Look, they're good, aren't they?
00:55:06.000 If you become an Awakened Wonder Pant wearer, you get early access to interviews, meditations, podcasts, Anyway, we've been talking a lot about hyperbole.
00:55:14.000 We've been talking about the mainstream media's hysteria and propaganda.
00:55:18.000 Some of you will have already seen, because I think we talked about it earlier in the week, Rachel Maddow talking about if Trump wins, he might make himself president for life.
00:55:26.000 And that that would just sort of be a thing that happened.
00:55:29.000 Also, we talk about like that mugshot image and how it's already been used to raise millions of dollars.
00:55:35.000 We're going to have a real look at this.
00:55:37.000 So if you are an awakened wonder, pull your underpants right up tight.
00:55:41.000 Right uptight, I'd say, until your lower body cannot even access blood, let alone delta diarrhea.
00:55:48.000 Double D, I call it.
00:55:50.000 And enjoy this wonderful item.
00:55:53.000 Here's the news.
00:55:54.000 No sunny, Jim.
00:55:55.000 Here's the effing news.
00:55:56.000 Now, where's my guitar?
00:55:57.000 Take me to the mountains, mama.
00:55:59.000 Thank you for choosing Fox News.
00:56:01.000 I'm Michael.
00:56:02.000 No, he's the fucking news!
00:56:05.000 Trump's mugshot has become the best piece of political propaganda since the Obama change poster.
00:56:11.000 So everyone's happy about that, except Rachel Maddow.
00:56:14.000 But can we trust the mainstream media on Trump?
00:56:20.000 Now let's work out this mugshot thing.
00:56:22.000 We knew, those of us that understand semiotics and media, that Trump's mugshot would become a phenomenon.
00:56:28.000 Yet they went ahead and gave us one.
00:56:30.000 Trump looks less orange than ever.
00:56:32.000 His hair is less crazy than it's ever been before.
00:56:35.000 It's a magnificent mugshot.
00:56:37.000 And the mainstream media are furious about it.
00:56:39.000 Even though they recognize that the more he's persecuted, the more popular he becomes as an anti-establishment figure, they continue to condemn him, with Rachel Maddow saying that if Trump wins in 2024, he will turn America into a dictatorship for life.
00:56:53.000 Now, I'm not sure that that's actually true.
00:56:57.000 I don't know what evidence that's based on.
00:56:59.000 I don't think the only reason that Trump was removed from office last time was because Biden was so mighty and the system is so fantastic.
00:57:05.000 And why do the mainstream hate Trump so much?
00:57:08.000 Is it because he's alleged to be a sexist and in some ways morally off-key?
00:57:12.000 Or is it for more profound geopolitical strategic reasons?
00:57:15.000 Let's get into it.
00:57:16.000 The election means one of two things, if this is the way he's going to approach it.
00:57:21.000 Either he loses the election and he goes to prison, or he wins the election, he doesn't go to prison, and is that for life?
00:57:33.000 That he gets to be president?
00:57:34.000 Will we keep having more elections or no?
00:57:38.000 If every election is a new opportunity for him to go to prison, do you think he allows us to have new elections?
00:57:42.000 That's scaremongering, I think.
00:57:44.000 Because say Trump did win, and Trump didn't want to go to prison, and he went, I'm going to be president forever, we're not going to have elections.
00:57:50.000 I feel like even the most ardent Trump supporters would say, no, no, we're not down with that.
00:57:54.000 And also, let's back up a bit.
00:57:57.000 What's going on with Biden's administration?
00:57:59.000 Is America improving in the ways that were claimed?
00:58:01.000 Did he deliver on the big pharma deal?
00:58:03.000 Or was it watered down to the point where it's weaker than some of the medications we're often invited to take?
00:58:09.000 Let's look at this seriously.
00:58:11.000 What's the real bloody difference here between the Democrat party and the Republican party?
00:58:16.000 The way that they're funded?
00:58:17.000 The way that they execute when in office?
00:58:19.000 I know some of you have pretty strong party political ties, but my belief is this.
00:58:23.000 What's needed is radical systemic change.
00:58:26.000 Radical systemic change.
00:58:28.000 Even the Georgia case alone is a state, not a federal case, so Trump wouldn't be able to pardon himself from that.
00:58:33.000 Why is that not being mentioned in this report?
00:58:35.000 Well, the answer could be because it's a hysterical report that's propagandising a population, playing to an audience of people who love Rachel Maddow, who can't remember all the vaccine stuff for some reason, and Absolutely hate Donald Trump.
00:58:46.000 This is precisely the problem we have.
00:58:47.000 My perspective is we have to overcome these kind of political affiliations and accept that we're at a point where different political models have to be considered.
00:58:54.000 I mean, if those are the stakes, if winning the election is his plan to stay out of prison, what happens in that election if and when he does not win it?
00:59:04.000 Does that kind of an election end with a graceful concession to a fair and square re-elected President Biden?
00:59:09.000 Russiagate, Russiagate, Russiagate, Russiagate, Russiagate.
00:59:11.000 The function of this piece of news is to ensure that you vote Democrat.
00:59:15.000 To ensure that the Democrat base is mobilized into voting.
00:59:19.000 I don't think the Democrats or the Republicans are going to provide the kind of solutions that you require, and I don't think you do either.
00:59:26.000 I think whatever side you're on, your argument will basically be, yeah, but they're better than the other party, and these small differences are all we're being offered.
00:59:34.000 And I say that's the biggest problem of all.
00:59:36.000 Being willing to kill one another over these small differences is what prevents the real change that's required from ever happening.
00:59:44.000 I mean if Trump and his supporters see the stakes as losing and going to prison or winning and being president and probably president for life.
00:59:51.000 You can't say probably!
00:59:52.000 Not probably!
00:59:53.000 It's not like almost definitely like you know.
00:59:54.000 I would like to see more introspection, more reflection, more openness.
00:59:58.000 I'd like to say look I know why you love Donald Trump.
01:00:00.000 I know you are angry.
01:00:00.000 I know you feel there are metropolitan elites that called you a basket of deplorables at They can't say any of that because Biden's in office and he's doing nothing of note or value or worth and all of the promises he made while campaigning have evaporated into nothing.
01:00:09.000 So they can't offer you that.
01:00:11.000 that you feel that your flag has been dishonoured, that your principles have been forgotten,
01:00:14.000 but I'm telling you we're going to do better.
01:00:15.000 Like they can't say any of that because Biden's in office and he's doing nothing of note or
01:00:19.000 value or worth and all of the promises he made while campaigning have evaporated into
01:00:24.000 nothing.
01:00:25.000 So they can't offer you that.
01:00:26.000 So all they can offer you is hate, hate, hate, hate.
01:00:28.000 All both sides are offering you is hate.
01:00:30.000 You cannot generate anything from hate.
01:00:31.000 You can't.
01:00:32.000 All you can do is ossify and oppose.
01:00:34.000 That's all that it will ever offer you.
01:00:35.000 No one's got a vision.
01:00:36.000 How should we expect that he and the Republican Party and Republican officials in swing states are going to handle the conduct of that election that Trump may very well lose?
01:00:49.000 And because we are prone to forget.
01:00:51.000 Yes, I think we forgot the efficacy of vaccines, didn't we?
01:00:55.000 We have to say out loud, I mean, that we would be remiss, we would be willfully naive to ask that question as if our politics exists in a vacuum, somewhere outside the rest of our news.
01:01:11.000 As if the politics pages are totally different than the crime pages, right?
01:01:15.000 As if we are not in a moment where far-right politics is coincident with far-right violence, with regular shows of force from paramilitary extreme right groups, and with acts of violence by people who are explicitly and admittedly motivated by far-right eliminationist political ideas.
01:01:33.000 You know like when you do exchange trips when you're a kid and you have to go to another school or whatever?
01:01:38.000 I think mainstream media should have to go and work at the other place for like a month instead of being sent to France to live with a French family or whatever.
01:01:44.000 Rachel Maddow should go on Fox, Fox people should go on MSNBC and should experience the world from that perspective.
01:01:50.000 I'm aware that this content gets watched by people who like this content.
01:01:54.000 Our hope is that we can create new conversations where people from across the political spectrum can see that they have more in common with one another than the establishment interests that purport to represent them on both sides.
01:02:06.000 That is our aim.
01:02:07.000 Our aim is about new models, new freedom, and how your personal awakening can change the world.
01:02:13.000 We don't want to say, oh it's the others.
01:02:15.000 I don't even want you to not like Rachel Maddow.
01:02:17.000 I don't think you can generate anything.
01:02:19.000 I know that in the comments below you'll go, oh I don't like Rachel Maddow or whatever.
01:02:21.000 That's not the message.
01:02:23.000 Rachel Maddow's a human being.
01:02:24.000 She's got her own set of interests.
01:02:25.000 We can't keep doubling down on this stuff.
01:02:27.000 We really have to move beyond it.
01:02:28.000 What I'm critiquing here is the hysteria around Trump and saying that, you know, her saying that Trump will stay in office for life.
01:02:34.000 There's no precedent for that.
01:02:36.000 There's no reason to say that.
01:02:38.000 And there's Nothing about the Biden administration that makes anyone believe that things are any better.
01:02:43.000 They're not any better.
01:02:44.000 What about the war alone?
01:02:46.000 The war alone?
01:02:46.000 No alternatives, no solution, no talk of peace.
01:02:49.000 Why are we not discussing that?
01:02:51.000 If you want people to behave rationally, as you claim, then have a rational conversation.
01:02:54.000 Don't double down on the hysteria and propaganda saying Trump's going to make himself president for life.
01:02:59.000 That appeals, that kind of rhetoric appeals to the people that already love Trump, that see him as an anti-establishment icon.
01:03:05.000 People should acknowledge what it is that people like about Trump.
01:03:07.000 He's good humour.
01:03:08.000 The fact that he's willing to attack and criticise the establishment.
01:03:10.000 The fact that he's anti-war.
01:03:12.000 That he reaches ordinary Americans.
01:03:14.000 And perhaps we can get somewhere on that basis.
01:03:17.000 Making hysterical propagandist claims on either side just creates more and more division.
01:03:21.000 It's not going to lead us anywhere.
01:03:22.000 And it is going to mean that the mugshot becomes a political icon.
01:03:25.000 It galvanises people into supporting Trump.
01:03:27.000 Let's have a look at how effective this mugshot has become and perhaps why this is happening.
01:03:31.000 The Trump mugshot's like the new Che Guevara t-shirt.
01:03:34.000 The mugshot for the ages.
01:03:37.000 Hot off the t-shirt press, stores are seizing on Trump's moment too.
01:03:42.000 I think it's funny, the second I saw that mugshot came out, I knew that the t-shirt presses were going to be going crazy.
01:03:48.000 I don't support that man at all, but I would wear it as a joke to an event.
01:03:53.000 That's funny.
01:03:54.000 I'll wear it as a joke to an event.
01:03:55.000 it's a good t-shirt. People don't understand iconography, people don't understand the new
01:03:59.000 information age, people don't understand that centralized media, corporate media, is dying.
01:04:03.000 Its model is dying and it's trying to prevent its own death by doing what it's always done
01:04:09.000 more aggressively rather than saying we need more discreet, rational, discursive, open,
01:04:15.000 reflective models where we don't haughtily talk down to a population but where we invite them
01:04:21.000 into the conversation. Let me know in the comments if you agree.
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01:05:45.000 Trump down in Georgia turning that mugshot into a record-breaking fundraising haul.
01:05:50.000 According to Politico, Trump's campaign claims to have had its best day of fundraising yet, pulling nearly 4.2 million dollars on Friday night alone, making it the single highest 24-hour period of his campaign to date.
01:06:03.000 I love when he said, one more indictment and I'll have this election sewn up.
01:06:06.000 He talks the language of modern politics.
01:06:09.000 Perhaps it wasn't just a coincidence the fact that he was the Twitter president.
01:06:12.000 We thought that Obama represented a true progression because he was from a new diverse race, because he had a sort of a charisma and conviviality, but it appears that actually Obama was a very traditional President in the sense that he represented establishment interests, particularly financial interests, in 2008.
01:06:27.000 He continued with drone wars.
01:06:29.000 And Trump, in spite of being an older man, and indeed a white man or orange man, depending on your perspective, has understood the media age in a way that no other politicians, certainly in the American landscape, do.
01:06:41.000 This is a new time.
01:06:43.000 New models of communication.
01:06:45.000 And I would suggest new political models are going to emerge from it.
01:06:48.000 Whether they are authoritarian centralised models, a bit like actually Rachel Maddow is suggesting, but I would say there's more danger of authoritarianism, curiously and paradoxically, from the liberal left than there are from the right.
01:06:59.000 Much of that fundraising comes from merchandise.
01:07:01.000 T-shirts, posters, bumper stickers, coolers, ranging from $12 to $40 on that website.
01:07:07.000 You see some of it there.
01:07:09.000 Literal advert for that.
01:07:10.000 It's like when MSNBC does Pfizer interviews.
01:07:12.000 Also has been peppering online donors with emails and text messages.
01:07:16.000 We kind of expected this Jonathan Lemire that Donald Trump was going to make a virtue and yes a t-shirt of his mugshot had it pushed out almost immediately in a fundraising email.
01:07:26.000 I can't believe it.
01:07:27.000 That's how I told you this would happen, you idiots.
01:07:30.000 That expression is MSNBC's entire attitude to normal people, new media, the changing world.
01:07:36.000 We've tried to tell you about this.
01:07:38.000 Why don't you go into your homes and put on your mask and do what we tell you?
01:07:43.000 We are, after all, liberals!
01:07:45.000 Yes, it's exciting and yes, it raises a bunch of money for your base supporters who do view you as a martyr and a victim who's being prosecuted by Joe Biden.
01:07:53.000 That's not the way this works, of course, but that's the tale he's telling them.
01:07:56.000 Because they don't offer you news, they offer you attitude.
01:07:59.000 That's the problem now.
01:08:00.000 They can't go, well, obviously this isn't bloody working.
01:08:03.000 People like Trump's anti-establishment stance and the establishment attacking him obviously validates his perspective and claims that the establishment are against him because he's against their interests and they're not trying to get him, they're trying to get you.
01:08:16.000 And if they're against Donald Trump, plainly they are, they should just try to stick to the facts about this and move away from the emotions because they've lost the emotional war because they don't actually care about ordinary people.
01:08:25.000 They can't win that war.
01:08:26.000 The question is, does it help him beyond that?
01:08:28.000 He does have to win, if he gets through this primary, a general election.
01:08:32.000 Does a mugshot do all these cases against him as he believes help him?
01:08:38.000 Yeah, there was speculation when he was first indicted in New York back in April.
01:08:42.000 If I could have just done the face.
01:08:44.000 Thank you.
01:08:45.000 There it is.
01:08:45.000 Guys, here's what you should think.
01:08:49.000 Okay, now the weather.
01:08:50.000 They didn't waste any time and we should know that's a lot of money, you're right.
01:08:53.000 You can get it on coffee mugs or t-shirts.
01:08:56.000 I even saw some footage over the weekend about people getting it as tattoos.
01:08:59.000 Yeah, that's really stupid to get stuff as a tattoo and it's a political issue.
01:09:03.000 Although I don't think Trump makes any money off of that.
01:09:05.000 It seems like it would be deeply painful.
01:09:07.000 So why are the mainstream media working so hard to continually disparage, discredit and even indict Donald
01:09:13.000 Trump?
01:09:13.000 This is from the Wall Street Journal.
01:09:14.000 The US presidential election is more than a year away, but allies and adversaries around
01:09:18.000 the world have already begun to contemplate and even plan for the return of Donald Trump
01:09:22.000 to the White House.
01:09:23.000 For many foreign capitals, the possibility of a second Trump administration is a source
01:09:26.000 of anxiety.
01:09:27.000 Allies from Paris to Tokyo regard Trump as an erratic leader with little interest in
01:09:31.000 culverting long-term ties to counter Russian and Chinese expansionism.
01:09:35.000 Unwillingness to counter Russian and Chinese expansionism could be a sensible policy unless you believe that Russian and Chinese expansionism ultimately includes nations like America and European nations rather than being localised and regional issues.
01:09:48.000 Not saying that I don't care about the people of Taiwan.
01:09:50.000 I'm saying I just don't care that much about semiconductors that want Americans to start dying for them.
01:09:55.000 And to ignore the potential of a peaceful solution to the Ukraine-Russia conflict, which Donald Trump advocates for just because it's good for BlackRock and the military-industrial complex.
01:10:03.000 Policymakers and politicians were reluctant to make public statements that might rile the current administration or an incoming one.
01:10:09.000 But officials interviewed by the Wall Street Journal did share their thoughts about what a Trump return to the world stage would mean for geopolitics.
01:10:14.000 Among the most widespread fears is that Trump would spark a global trade war.
01:10:19.000 I prefer a global trade war than a global... war.
01:10:22.000 The candidate is threatened to impose fresh tariffs on all goods imported into the US, hitting friend and foe alike, a move that risks sowing divisions in transatlantic relations in a time of war.
01:10:31.000 I think that was the issue.
01:10:32.000 Trump has also threatened to withdraw the US from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, a move that his former National Security Advisor John Bolton recently described as a near certainty if he is elected again.
01:10:42.000 Why can't we discuss those ideas?
01:10:43.000 Some governments are moving to lock in military assistance to Ukraine to strengthen security there in case a newly elected Trump scales back US support.
01:10:51.000 Members of the Group of Seven Wealthy Nations are trying to reach bilateral agreements with Kiev to provide weapons that meet NATO standards.
01:10:58.000 Even the Group of Seven Wealthy Nations seems ridiculous with escalating fuel bills, increasing poverty, the decimation of ordinary public spaces, the poverty and despair on the streets of most developed nations.
01:11:09.000 Where's all this wealth going, I wonder?
01:11:11.000 And Washington has sent billions of dollars in arms and humanitarian aid to Ukraine.
01:11:15.000 There's a strong possibility Trump might be re-elected, said Benjamin Haddad, a French lawmaker from President Emmanuel Macron's party.
01:11:22.000 It forces us Europeans to read the writing on the wall and take more responsibility.
01:11:26.000 Part of the reason, at least, that Trump is unpopular is because of his anti-globalist position, or at least that he isn't a fully imbibed and controlled globalist asset.
01:11:35.000 That Trump policies might not lead to more war, but might lead to less war.
01:11:39.000 And that is part of the problem.
01:11:41.000 French officials have been warning European allies that the possibility of Trump's return requires the continent to significantly expand arms production from artillery to missile defence systems so it can supply Ukraine on its own.
01:11:51.000 How do you feel about that?
01:11:52.000 Oh no, America won't be supplying arms to Ukraine anymore.
01:11:55.000 Do you want I actually, you know, how could I possibly know what is the best geopolitical policy for the Ukraine-Russia conflict?
01:12:01.000 But it would be good, wouldn't it, to have unbiased, clear, open conversations about that and maybe even vote on what the preferred outcome would be.
01:12:09.000 The idea that Trump's ascendancy is a problem because he would end war is being presented to you as a bad thing seems to me all kind of topsy-turvy and upside down.
01:12:18.000 Eastern European countries and France are also pushing allies to admit Ukraine into NATO.
01:12:23.000 Oh, that's a really good idea.
01:12:24.000 I've not heard anywhere that that could create problems.
01:12:26.000 We've been lucky with Ukraine to have an American administration that helped us, Matt
01:12:29.000 Cron recently told Le Pompe magazine.
01:12:31.000 Can we let Ukraine lose and Russia win?
01:12:33.000 The answer is no.
01:12:34.000 We have to hold out over time.
01:12:36.000 I suppose what that article indicates is that there is indeed a globalist, corporatist agenda.
01:12:41.000 That organisations like NATO do supersede national interests.
01:12:45.000 But a figure like Trump, with his nationalism, with his inward-looking gaze, whether you like Trump or not, is an opposition to that corporatist, globalist agenda.
01:12:54.000 I consider those figures like Macron and Trudeau to not be the forbearers of a new liberal democracy, but actually globalist corporatists who don't very much care about the ordinary people of their nation, but instead care about advancing elite interests under the auspices of liberalism.
01:13:10.000 I believe that more decentralisation, more localisation, more democracy, more political freedom at the level of the community and the individual is the answer.
01:13:20.000 Not more centralisation and a globalist agenda that cannot be opposed, particularly when it includes a potentially apocalyptic war.
01:13:26.000 So, Trump's rise and the missteps taken by the mainstream media appear to relate strongly to a corporatist globalist agenda, and that's hardly surprising.
01:13:35.000 Trump is an America First guy.
01:13:36.000 For all of the condemnation of criticism of Trump that you can read and see elsewhere in sufficient quantities to not require me to give it to you again, is a figure that appears to be At odds with the advances of a globalist, corporatist agenda, and you have to ask yourself this.
01:13:50.000 Are they anti-Trump because of all the reasons they say?
01:13:53.000 Trump is a savage and he's against your freedom and he's a dictator.
01:13:56.000 Or are they against Trump because they tacitly and quietly and silently in fact support exactly this agenda?
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