In this episode of RUMBLE, Benji and Gareth are joined by Oliver Stone and Ron DeSantis to discuss their new film 'The Handmaid's Tale' and what it means to be a part of a community, and how it relates to the Trump administration. They also talk about how they met Donald Trump and why they think he's the best in the business, and why he should go on to become the president of the United States. Also, there's a whole lot of other stuff, including a new segment called 'Rumble in the Headspace' and a new kind of podcast called 'The Locals', hosted by Benji & Gareth. If you're a member of the Locals Community, you can join in on the fun by becoming a patron patron of the show, and stay free with Russell Brand! To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/OurAdvertisers and use the promo code "ELISSA" at checkout to receive 10% off your first pack! We'll see you in the Badger Den! You can't ask for much more! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. We'd like to hear your thoughts on this episode, please write them in the comments section below! Thank you so much for all the love, support, support and support, we really do appreciate it. - Benji, Gareth, Gareth and Gareth, and hope you enjoy this episode. XOXO, - P.S. xoxo - - EJ & Gareth - The Best Fiends - Matt & Gareth, P.B. & Danny S. - Thank you for all your support is much appreciated! - Love Birds Chirping, - K.A. - A. BONUS EPISODES! - R. & DANICA - THE VOCALYNNE, MURCHES, R. B. & JOSEPH, P. M. & K. P. & TAYLOR MCCART WEEKEND, RONDA VAN DORCHERODO - RONGSETTER - WE'S AVAILABLE FOR PRODUCING A PODCAST AND P. SONGS, MOSCOY CHEESE, RAYA AND KELLY WELCOME?
00:00:37.000**music** You're going to see the future.
00:00:41.000I'm going to be on. Stay free with Russell Brand.
00:00:56.000If you're watching this on YouTube, we're only going to do the first 15 minutes or so here on YouTube.
00:01:00.000Even though we love you, you 6.5 million glorious creatures of the Lord, it's just we have to speak freely, my on-screen assistant and amanuensis, Gareth Roy and I, don't we, Gareth?
00:01:11.000Particularly when it's a day of so much excitement, when there is so much glorious news, when the limitless light of consciousness shines so bright, and when we've got such a big week.
00:01:21.000Like, say for example, if you're a member of our locals community, if you're watching us on Rumble right now, press the red button on the screen.
00:01:27.000People like Benji, they're already here, and Danny S, they're all there.
00:02:25.000Because of like, in fact we should pull that thing off Instagram.
00:02:27.000We'll show like that Instagram reel of the one where I'm shouting a lot.
00:02:31.000We'll show it in a minute because we've got so much news to tell you and that's why I'm a little bit delirious just in case you was wondering because I've been out on my nut starting new independent communities that will... On spirituality.
00:02:41.000Yeah, I'm out on spirituality, breathwork, powerful breathwork and stuff, because if you fuse individual spiritual awakening with collective community empowerment, what you have is a challenge to the current system.
00:02:53.000Once we start these autonomous confederacies of independent communities, then a couple of years down the line, it's like, we ain't paying no tax, we're not participating in your debt economy anymore.
00:05:50.000How can Mike Pence sit there, that little human ice cream, so white as snow, isn't he, his little ice cream head, advocating, saying that the problem is there ain't enough helicopters?
00:06:00.000Yeah, well exactly, but also, literally in the same sentence as mentioned in Afghanistan.
00:06:05.000You know, one of the ways in which we know America's in an unnecessary war for 20 years that dragged on.
00:06:10.000And then speaking about the Ukraine conflict in a completely different context.
00:06:13.000Like, this is a completely different thing.
00:06:45.000Public filth and disorder and crime have exponentially increased.
00:06:50.000Doesn't Tucker there challenge one of the basic preconceptions and indeed misconceptions about this current conflict that why should America even be remotely involved in this war?
00:07:05.000And here is a list of exquisite and brilliant Unanswerable, well they are answerable questions, if you answered them you'd realise that this whole war is an absolute sham.
00:07:15.000This is an article by the brilliant Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Chris Hedges who used to work for the New York Times and now can't get a gig on the internet because of increasing censorship, so I suppose I'm going to have to be careful reading this out.
00:07:28.000While Tucker makes the point that many Americans, and let us know in the chat how you feel about this, press the red button, join us on Locals, many Americans Wouldn't voluntarily or electorally vote to spend billions and billions of dollars on a foreign war when that money could be spent domestically on American infrastructure?
00:07:48.000Here is a list of questions from Chris Hedges about the conflict between Ukraine and Russia.
00:07:54.000Questions that, when you ponder them, you start to realise the depth of deception that's being practised by the mainstream media and the establishment more broadly.
00:08:03.000Wasn't the Russian military, because of poor morale, poor generalship, outdated weapons, desertion, a lack of ammunition, that supposedly forced soldiers to fight with shovels and severe supply shortages, supposed to collapse months ago?
00:08:16.000Oh yeah, do you remember that, when they said that they were going to collapse?
00:08:18.000Wasn't Putin supposed to be driven from power?
00:08:20.000That hasn't happened, and that's going to be great stuff to ask Oliver Stone about, so do click the red button, do join us on Locals, where you'll be able to talk to Oliver Stone live, because Oliver Stone, of course, met with Putin, and when he said on Colbert, He went on Colbert, Putin's a reasonable man, he's reasonable, you can talk to Putin.
00:08:38.000The audience, they booed him, that we've been propagandised to such a degree that people don't even want to talk about reason and diplomacy.
00:08:45.000He didn't say, Putin's a great man and I love him and I think we should all cover him in talcum powder and praise him like we should.
00:08:51.000He said, it might be better to have a conversation than ongoing war.
00:08:55.000Weren't the sanctions supposed to plunge the ruble into a death spiral?
00:08:59.000Wasn't the severing of the Russian banking system from SWIFT, the international money transfer system, supposed to cripple the Russian economy?
00:09:05.000How is it the inflation rates in Europe and the United States are higher than in Russia despite these attacks?
00:09:10.000Wasn't the nearly $150 billion in sophisticated military hardware, financial and humanitarian assistance pledged in the US, EU and 11 other countries Supposed to have turned the tide of the war?
00:09:54.000this, you know that CNN are always advocating for dear old lovely old cuddly old Joe Biden.
00:10:03.000Let me know why you think they're broadcasting this, because they're really, really attacking
00:10:06.000him. Is this an attempt to make Joe Biden sound more credible?
00:10:09.000I think it can only be that. Because when you first watch this, you think, wow, this
00:10:13.000is CNN on a kind of anti-Biden story? And then the further you get into it, one of our
00:10:18.000production team, Bad Graphics Jack, made the point earlier.
00:10:21.000It's his best contribution to the production in some time.
00:10:23.000And he said, no, this is almost Certainly, a way of framing Biden as someone who's ruthless in a way that he's not.
00:10:30.000He's framed at the moment as someone who's doddery and forgets what he's saying halfway through sentences.
00:10:35.000So it's better to frame him as someone who's ruthless and rude to staff than it is someone who's incapable.
00:10:40.000Let us know on YouTube, if you're one of our 6.5 million awakening wonders there, what you think the purpose of this piece of CNN mainstream propaganda is.
00:10:48.000If you're watching us on Rumble, join us over on Locals and stay with us, because straight after this, it's Oliver Stone.
00:10:54.000But now, some propaganda from All right, we know that President Biden likes to cultivate his public image as kindly Uncle Joe, he's often referred to.
00:11:03.000But apparently behind the scenes, I'm talking about in private, he reportedly has a bit of a temper and unleashes it on his staff.
00:12:37.000He's prone to yelling, it's much saltier language, and he'll really angrily grill into his staff to the point that some staffers are actually a bit afraid to meet alone with the president.
00:12:52.000Why are they not talking about the old, a lot of you people in the, you know what everyone's talking about here in the chat, on locals, press the red button.
00:12:57.000What's he doing with the sniffy boncies?
00:13:00.000Biden doesn't just sniff children, apologetic pets.
00:13:06.000I mean, how can you have a Democrat party that doesn't want Robert F. Kennedy to stand when the incumbent is a crotchy, shouty, head sniffy, what's going on in the lavatories?
00:13:18.000Dear old sausage, let's call him while we're still on YouTube.
00:13:21.000When we get on Rumble, we'll really let it fly.
00:13:23.000Sometimes they'll bring in an extra person or two in order so that the firing line is a little bit distributed among several.
00:14:34.000So it's been over 50 years where he's had people staffing him.
00:14:38.000And as a result, there's a generational difference too.
00:14:40.000You know, he's really, really tough on staff.
00:14:43.000And he already had that, as he calls, you know, get his Irish up.
00:14:46.000He already had that Irish temper, you know, really lay into people.
00:14:50.000And in some cases, you know, make them feel humiliated.
00:14:52.000A lot of people are saying deselection, some people are saying distraction.
00:14:56.000Hannah says, wait a sec, wait a sec, taking us away from the, taking us away from the, oh god it's so hard, you guys are typing so fast and there's so many of you.
00:15:05.000Oh no, excuse me, sorry, taking us away from the real narrative, from looking at what amazing candidates like RFK have to offer.
00:15:13.000And then SSSSSSSS123 says, I worked for an older professional and we would meet with the manager and him because he would lie and he couldn't remember the things that we had said and not said in meetings.
00:15:23.000So they have to have witnesses there to make sure that Joe Biden hasn't said a bunch of crazy stuff.
00:15:28.000The thing is with this, even if, you know, so it's a possible distraction from his challengers, that's one.
00:15:33.000It's possible that CNN and maybe other kind of left-wing media are vying for someone else in the future, or that they're trying to change his image.
00:15:41.000But I guess the thing that I think about this is that isn't the point of Biden when he came in, wasn't it that As an alternative to Trump, because we know in terms of economically speaking, there won't be that much difference in terms of their relationship with corporations, their relationship with war and all those things.
00:15:58.000It wasn't the point of Biden, he's the much nicer version of Trump.
00:16:01.000Like, when you've got Trump who's rude and obnoxious and says things that people don't like... Bearing in mind, of course, that you guys absolutely love Donald Trump, right?
00:16:08.000Sure, I guess, I mean, the media portrayal of it was always, Trump is rude and obnoxious, says things he shouldn't say, isn't a very nice person.
00:16:16.000Biden's this lovely, cuddly old grandad, but then when you discover he's not at all, I mean, some of the things that he says, Biden's dressing down of staff often includes profane condemnation, including phrases such as, God damn it, how the F don't you know this, and don't F-ing bullsh-t me, and get the F out of here.
00:16:35.000Many of the people in the chat, apologetic press says, Vivek, get Vivek on.
00:16:39.000And a lot of people, so we are getting Vivek on.
00:16:46.000OK, let's have a little bit more of this broadcast.
00:16:48.000Make them feel embarrassed, and really feel like, and truly be cussed out.
00:16:53.000Many might be surprised by this, because you might recall when he spoke about respect and dignity, and the idea that if you're working with him, if you act in that way, you get fired.
00:17:10.000If you're ever working with me and I hear you treat another colleague with disrespect, talk down to someone, I promise you I will fire you on the spot.
00:17:31.000He has erratic tantrums and they come in the form of angry interrogations where he presses both senior and lower level until it becomes clear to others in the room they don't know the answer to the question.
00:17:40.000The tactic has become so frequent the staff have named it Stump the Chump.
00:17:46.000Why is there not a Stump the Chump graphic right now, where we try to stump chumps on a near daily basis?
00:17:54.000Meanwhile, over on Morning Joe, Micah, that lady, do you remember when I was on there, she kept doing that stuff with the bottle, all that, the shaft grasping, I believe I called it at the time.
00:18:02.000She Offers up a further condemnation of Biden's staff, a staff who apparently are being deluged daily under an avalanche of Biden expletives and an avalanche of another white powder as well, seemingly if the lavatory lab tests or anything go by.
00:18:55.000I don't think they do a good job helping out the president.
00:18:58.000And I'm not talking about it like I'm just saying if you are managing a president's schedule and you are managing a president getting on stage and getting off stage and doing getting on planes and getting off plane.
00:20:30.000You know, those are things that surely... There's no member of staff that can get inside Joe Biden's head when he says all those mad mental things.
00:20:37.000And why did you guys not fit him with an Elon Musk-style Neuralink chip?
00:20:41.000Like that little marmoset monkey sucking on that metal straw and playing ping pong against itself.
00:20:47.000You guys should be Neuralinking Joe Biden now and driving him from the inside.
00:21:50.000Okay, let him do his job, let him do his speeches, let him work on policy, let him do his connections in Congress, unlike any president that we've seen.
00:24:13.000The thing is they spend so much of their time saying age isn't a factor and then they say the quiet bit out loud, age is a factor, but blame the people who he works with.
00:24:23.000Another thing you might want to consider, while Micah and various other sectors of the mainstream news are advocating for Joe Biden's tenure to continue blaming his staff and then trying to portray him as some sort of scarface figure, or as some of you have said in the chat, trying to prepare the way for a new candidate.
00:24:43.000Not RFK, not that candidate, not someone that people actually want who's anti-corruption, that's pro-unity.
00:24:50.000Some other stooge that we could stick out from.
00:24:53.000Meanwhile, there are tit-for-tat cluster bomb attacks being threatened, and NATO's intention is to deal with that by expanding into Asia.
00:25:30.000This is like members of the Democrats and the Republicans that are both saying it's inevitable that NATO will expand into Asia.
00:25:38.000Which is obviously something that, you know, China are going to have a word to say about that.
00:25:42.000I'm trying not to be so cheesed off about that.
00:25:43.000I want to go into more depth, as well as I want to make some jokes about that cocaine story, right?
00:25:48.000So if you're watching us on YouTube, you can't do it because there's censorship there and that's, you know, you might be one of the 6.5 million wonders.
00:29:28.000Wow, on Sunday night while I was with my- This is really good!
00:29:30.000While I was with my family, having just arrived from the turning point in Florida where I won a straw poll against all other Republican candidates with 85%.
00:29:39.000All polls show me leading by very substantial numbers.
00:29:42.000Almost everyone predicted that I would be a Republican nominee for president and as I am leading Democrat Joe Biden in the polls by a lot.
00:29:47.000Horrifying news for our country was given to me by our attorneys.
00:30:04.000Well, I'm going to look that up on a dictionary, what deranged means.
00:30:07.000Because it's a really very specific piece of language.
00:30:10.000To call someone deranged is pretty much out there, isn't it?
00:30:13.000Did you find that thing from Community, that post I was on about on Instagram?
00:30:17.000Not that I want to do it now, but that was the last thing I was looking at on there, because when Joe Rogan texted me and goes, are you starting a cult?
00:31:13.000Because that's what's happened every single time.
00:31:15.000Because in a sense, people are not reading what this fundamentally means.
00:31:20.000There are some people that have so little trust in the media and the establishment and the judiciary that whatever the media establishment and judiciary say about Trump, they will not stop liking Trump.
00:31:30.000And then there are other people that hate Trump so much that even when Trump says, Things that surely everyone should agree of like like when he was in that town or thing saying everyone I just want people to stop dying and the CNN report was going so you want to win?
00:32:50.000What of the Ukrainian democracy that we're fighting to protect?
00:32:53.000Why did the Ukrainian parliament revoke the official use of minority languages, including Russian, three days after the 2014 coup?
00:33:00.000How do we rationalise the eight years of warfare against ethnic Russians in the Donbass region before the Russian invasion in February 2022?
00:33:07.000How do we explain the killing of over 14,000 people and the 1.5 million people who were displaced before Russia's invasion took place last year?
00:33:14.000Hedges acknowledges it's a criminal invasion, but look at all of these questions that are unanswered and would remain unanswered under the candidature and indeed presidency of Mike Pence.
00:33:24.000More of the same, that's what he's offering.
00:33:26.000Because what Chris Hedges is offering us is that it's irrelevant which party you vote
00:33:30.000for, you're going to get the military-industrial complex.
00:33:33.000And even just on this issue of war, a candidate like Trump or candidates like RFK are saying
00:33:37.000we are anti-establishment, populist candidacies.
00:33:41.000One of the things I'm most excited by is the return of real populism, the populare, the
00:33:46.000people, all of us, politics that represents people, not a cadre of experts that tell you
00:33:53.000The consultancy of experts is necessary in various fields and for the advancement of technology and science and medicine and innumerable interwoven disciplines, of course it is.
00:34:04.000But the fact is that democracy has to be representative of the will of the people, otherwise it's not democracy anymore.
00:34:12.000How do we defend a decision by President Vladimir Putin?
00:34:15.000Zelensky to ban 11 opposition parties.
00:34:18.000How can we accept the banning of these opposition parties, many of which are on the left, while Zelensky allows fascists from the Sovoboda... Sovoboda, what's that, mate?
00:34:27.000And right sector parties, as well as the banned right Azov battalion and other extremist militias to flourish.
00:34:33.000How do we deal with the anti-Russian purges and arrests of supposed fifth columnists sweeping through Ukraine?
00:34:39.000It's extraordinary how many unanswered questions there are.
00:34:43.000You can't answer those questions without pulling apart the fabric that is the tapestry of lies that underwrites this entire conflict.
00:34:51.000Yeah, I think, like, simply put, as Chris Hedges writes, the government has spent, since the end of the Second World War, the government has spent between 45% and 90% of the federal budget, 90% of the federal budget, on past, current, or future military operations.
00:35:05.000It's the largest sustained activity of the US government.
00:35:10.000And Tucker Carlson's point there with Mike Pence was, why are we even involved in this thing?
00:35:15.000American cities and American society is falling apart, and what Pence is offering, the stump that he's offering up is, I'm going to do more of that stuff.
00:36:32.000Then it was reported to be in the West Wing lobby.
00:36:34.000Now it's reported to be a floor below the lobby in an area used by staff officials, visitors and VIPs, including Kamala Harris' staff.
00:36:41.000It can't be Kamala Harris because she's not focused enough to be regularly using cocaine.
00:36:45.000One thing about cocaine is it does enable you to make your way through a sentence quite assiduously and diligently, I would say.
00:36:53.000One way you know someone's lying is when they change their story and they're like, oh, that cocaine, sorry, yeah, I put that in the library, what is it?
00:37:06.000Because initially, the whole thing at the start of it, this was the stories, it was a member of the public because, like, I don't think anyone takes cocaine in their 80s do they?
00:37:13.000coming out is, no the public probably didn't have access to these areas it's
00:37:17.000much more like it's been a member of staff in some way and then it's like how
00:37:21.000high does that go? So they just have to keep changing where they found this coke.
00:37:25.000I don't think anyone takes cocaine in their 80s do they? I mean like just in
00:37:29.000the chat do you know what's the oldest person you've known to take cocaine?
00:38:42.000Thank you so much for joining us for this important community event.
00:38:49.000You are not only allowed to participate, you are required to participate.
00:38:54.000In the presence of the spirit of the goddess of the river, why currently, we don't even now understand why, because she's hard to explain how centralised He's going to be a dominant player in the National Cup, in
00:41:55.000They're always trying to say, oh he's got cancer and that, his bum's falling out, he don't look well, I saw a bogey hanging out his nose, he was unaware of it.
00:43:32.000Look at that little motley crew of swabs running this operation.
00:43:36.000Hey, let's learn a little bit more about Ukrainian censorship and why some journalists are more important than others and why some propaganda is more valuable than others.
00:44:58.000No, because Thomas Jefferson... Thomas Jefferson wrote, we're left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government.
00:45:09.000I should not hesitate to prefer the latter.
00:45:12.000That's not a principle that they realistically espouse.
00:45:15.000They've just been busted for bothering social media sites that publish dissenting information.
00:45:21.000Believing in free speech means you believe in the free speech of people that disagree with you.
00:45:25.000That's a very difficult thing to commit to, because I think all of us would prefer to go, no, shut up, I don't want to listen to you, I don't agree with you.
00:45:31.000But it's particularly relevant when you're legislating.
00:45:34.000It's particularly relevant when you're censoring.
00:45:36.000It's particularly relevant when campaigning for the release of one journalist who happens to represent your views by ignoring another journalist who you may disagree with.
00:46:10.000Good, because we've just established a principle that, unless it's lies, is going to help you.
00:46:15.000Biden devoted the bulk of his remarks to a lengthy declaration of his opposition to the repressive measures taken against journalists in Russia, China, Iran, Syria and Venezuela.
00:46:25.000Hmm, Have those countries got anything else in common?
00:46:37.000They got oil that they shouldn't have.
00:46:38.000It's not very good oil, but we want it anyway.
00:46:41.000We would have gotten all that oil, it would have been right next door.
00:46:43.000And pledges to devote US diplomatic efforts to winning the release of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich recently arrested on bogus spying charges in Russia and other American prisoners of the Putin regime.
00:47:06.000Why I don't support is using those stories to push an agenda while ignoring comparable cases because you can't use them to exploit or amplify a message that's convenient to you or to vilify or criminalize a country that you want to have wars with or want to ransack for resources.
00:47:23.000That makes you think that they don't actually care about Evan Gerskovich.
00:47:31.000The coincidence between the list of countries guilty for violating press freedom and the list of countries targeted by American imperialism for subversion and overthrow was obvious.
00:47:56.000So we're using this speech, of course, to illustrate the hypocrisy of saying that all journalists should be freed and only focusing on journalists that you agree with.
00:48:04.000Of course, Evan Gershkovich should be freed.
00:48:07.000Let's have a look at why those cases are being treated differently.
00:48:10.000Meanwhile, a United States citizen has been arrested in Ukraine for allegedly expressing strong criticism against the government's war with Russia.
00:48:17.000And the Biden administration said on Monday that they will not comment on the matter.
00:49:41.000But if there's someone that you can use for publicity, we'll do something about that.
00:49:46.000So is it then that you just use these principles, and maybe even wars themselves, if you already have an agenda?
00:49:53.000Because I can't help but notice that Russia, China, Iran, Syria, and Venezuela, the countries that you've said are particularly bad when it comes to press freedom, also seem to have stuff you want.
00:50:05.000No, they don't, but I'm not willing to prove that and or comment on it, so shut up.
00:50:09.000So you guys aren't working to get him released?
00:50:12.000I'm going to leave my comments where I just left them.
00:50:15.000I'm going to leave my comments where I just left them, there, floating about, sort of looking a bit like lies and excuses.
00:50:20.000Actually, I'm going to move... Just get those comments out of here!
00:50:23.000In March 2022, President Volodymyr Zelensky invoked his emergency powers under martial law to suppress several opposition political parties and implement a unified information policy, i.e.
00:51:16.000You can't have American taxpayer dollars being poured into Ukraine to fight against a criminal entity without there being some provisos and conditions placed upon that.
00:51:27.000Otherwise, there's no purpose to what you're fighting for.
00:51:30.000You have to look at the nuances and complexity of the situation.
00:51:33.000Russia's invasion, criminal and bad, but seemingly provoked over time.
00:52:11.000The whole thing is like a sort of a giddy delirium of language and I believe it's because it's not...
00:52:16.000Anchored to any principles except for the agenda of dominion, control and profit.
00:52:22.000Those are the only things where I can sort of consistently track, oh well that's beneficial to those interests, oh that's also beneficial to those interests.
00:52:29.000That's the only thing that makes sense.
00:52:30.000When I try to make sense of it using, well we're helping Ukraine because it's wrong and it's a humanitarian crisis, immediately a load of questions come to mind.
00:52:39.000What about the people in these various territories that we've exploited ourselves?
00:52:43.000You can't hold it in your head if you ask those questions.
00:52:47.000That's why you're not allowed to ask those questions.
00:52:49.000Under previous legislation enacted in 2019 under the Zelensky government, the council has the power to issue licenses, conduct inspections and impose sanctions on television and radio companies, Ukra News reported.
00:53:02.000The new law allows the council to regulate print and online media, as well as internet, television and information sharing platforms such as YouTube and social networks.
00:53:10.000The regulator will be able to impose mandatory orders and fines and even suspend media outlets without a court decision.
00:53:17.000Under the law, the council can also restrict content from search engines such as Google.
00:53:22.000It's interesting that already the post-war future in Ukraine has been discussed, Zelensky making a deal with BlackRock Blackrock, J.P.
00:53:33.000To make it a digital company that's fully regulated and fully controlled where there are no union laws.
00:53:39.000Increasingly it looks like this is not about protecting the people of Ukraine.
00:53:43.000It's about advancing a certain set of interests, the pursuit of certain resources, the ability to pilot new legislation and social models, break down Russia as an international threat.
00:53:53.000All those arguments make more sense to me than we care about Ukrainian people.
00:53:57.000Diplomacy would be much higher up the agenda if that Both the European Federation of Journalists and the Committee to Protect Journalists have opposed the measure and in September Ukraine's own National Union of Journalists called the law the biggest threat to press freedom in Ukraine's independent history.
00:54:13.000So if you believe and agree with what Joe Biden said that in the case of America and in the words of Jefferson the press is more important than the government what he was saying there is free speech.
00:54:23.000Jefferson's principle applied now means you wouldn't censor social media, you'd allow people to freely communicate.
00:54:29.000Of course, you then have to, if you agree with that, you have to recognize that this is wrong,
00:54:35.000and that the reason to protect Ukraine is because you believe in freedom, and if you believe in freedom,
00:54:40.000then measures like that are hypocritical and at odds with that principle, and
00:54:44.000questioning that, pointing that out, is important, vital, necessary.
00:54:49.000Otherwise, the central meaning is being pulled away, and all that remains is a set of very obvious
00:54:54.000financial interests and interests of dominion, which are obviously, as you surely know by now, what I believe
00:55:00.000motivates conflict of this nature. But perhaps more observably, what about the freedom of that guy that's banged up there,
00:55:46.000Ostensibly the bill is targeted at bot accounts, but in reality the language of the bill is so encompassing that anyone could be arrested for posting information that the right-wing nationalist government in Kiev deems misinformation.
00:55:58.000Another one of those laws that seems to be the recognition that information can now be disseminated in ways that is difficult to control unless there are new laws to control it.
00:56:08.000And it's not about misinformation, it's about information that's not expedient.
00:56:11.000To the entire family, everyone in this hall stands with you.
00:56:16.000We're working every day to secure his release.
00:56:19.000Biden made no reference, for example, to the murder of Washington Post commentator Jamal Khashoggi, killed and dismembered inside the consulate of Saudi Arabia in the Turkish city of Istanbul.
00:56:29.000I wonder why they don't even notice that.
00:57:24.000Joe Biden holds an event where the room is full of journalists, where he tells that room that journalism, in the words of Jefferson, is more important than government.
00:57:33.000Meanwhile, not one journalist in that room has the temerity to say, what about Julian Assange?
00:57:40.000What about that guy banged up in Ukraine?
00:57:42.000Do we care about journalism and free speech?
00:57:46.000And have we become so good at propaganda that we tell you that our propaganda is your free speech?
00:57:53.000That we tell you that a free press is a press that does exactly what the government wants them to do and doesn't ask the government any difficult questions.
00:58:01.000And when a difficult question is asked, like, hey, what are you going to do about that YouTuber who's banged up in Ukraine?
00:58:06.000Just say, look, I've told you what I'm going to say.
00:58:18.000That's why there are so many questions that remain unanswered because they can't answer you without telling you the truth.
00:58:25.000We operate on behalf of elite establishment interests.
00:58:28.000We'll say whatever we have to say to continue to pursue that agenda without ever making it too obvious.
00:58:34.000That's why there are going to be journalists in prison in some countries that we stick up for and journalists in some countries that we completely ignore.
00:58:40.000Journalists that get murdered and we don't do anything about it and it's business as usual.
00:58:44.000Julian Assange still in jail because he threatened American interest.
00:58:47.000You can just look at that information and work out for yourself what the truth is.
00:58:53.000So, it doesn't matter what I think, but that's just what I think!