This week on Stay Free With Russell Brand, Russell is joined by Tucker Barnard and Gareth Roy to discuss Joe Biden's new role as President of the United States, and how mainstream media is censoring itself. Plus, a new segment called Here's the News, featuring Tucker and Gareth's first guest, Ron DeSantis. Stay Free with Russell Brand is available on all good podcasting platforms. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/sponsorships/StayFreeWithRussellBrand and use the promo code: "stackingsats" to receive 10% off your first month with discount code: STAYFREE at checkout. This offer ends on December 31st, 2019. To buy tickets to our upcoming live show, click here. To get your tickets now, go here. To find out more about our sponsorships and VIP packages, go HERE. To support the show, visit bit.ly/support-stayfreewithrussellanbrand and use coupon "RUMBLE" at checkout to get 10% all-inclusive when you book your first-weekend VIP membership. You'll get 20% off the entire stayfree offer, plus we'll be giving you 5% off our next full-course meal and 2-day shipping when you sign up to stay free for the rest of the month, plus a free shipping offer when you watch the show! We'll see you in the VIP version of the show next week! Stay free with RUMBLE! Subscribe to stayfree with R.fm and R.JGarethree.co.me/R.J.Balders.ee/keepup-and-let us know who you're listening to the show? And we'll send you an ad-free version of this week's episode on the show and get 15% off R.B. & R.D.A.& R.P.A&A. . R.S. Thank you, R.V. & P. We can't wait to hear back from you, too much R. BONUS CONTENT: R.E. & A.M. & JUICY! - R.Y. BOTTERY! R. M. BOULDER! Thank you R. D. & D. SONGS: & J. SONS
00:00:55.000What a fantastic week it was last week with Tucker.
00:00:58.000I'm going to be reflecting on that conversation, its significance, what it tells us about independent media and mainstream media.
00:01:04.000Although, of course, you know that independent media now has to align with independent politics because mainstream media and centralist politics are aligned.
00:01:14.000Let me know what you think in the chat.
00:01:16.000If you're watching this now on Rumble, why don't you press the red button
00:01:18.000and join us on Locals like so many already have, like Chef411 telling me simply
00:01:23.000that they're drinking coffee right now.
00:01:26.000"'Tucker touched on architecture and I fully agreed,' says Rational Anarchy."
00:01:29.000It was a chroming and wonderful conversation.
00:01:32.000It's being covered everywhere, but it happened here on Stay Free,
00:01:35.000and we've got many more conversations like it to come.
00:01:37.000Ron DeSantis coming up later this week, and we're reaching out to political figures,
00:01:42.000pundits, and thinkers from across the political spectrum.
00:01:45.000Let us know who you want to see come on here, because based on what happened here last week, we can get these guests if you want them enough.
00:01:52.000Here to help me cover stories like Biden's cluster bombs is Gareth Roy, my on-screen assistant.
00:02:14.000One of the stories that we're going to be covering in some detail is the cluster bomb story.
00:02:18.000The Biden administration has agreed to provide Ukraine with cluster bombs, even though last year they said that if Russia used cluster bombs, That would be a crime.
00:02:26.000When is a cluster bomb not a cluster bomb?
00:02:29.000You know, when they need it not to be?
00:02:32.000It makes you wonder, what are the ethics and ideals behind this conflict?
00:02:37.000Of course, later in Here's the News, we'll be showing you some stuff about Tucker that we couldn't show you before, or didn't show you before.
00:02:42.000And when we're exclusively on Rumble, if you're watching us on YouTube or listening to us on Twitter, wherever you're receiving this, the majority of the show can only happen on Rumble.
00:02:50.000Not because of hate speech, but because of free speech.
00:02:59.000We're going to be talking about how your government wants to continue to censor you in spite of a federal judgment that says they should simply stop.
00:03:07.000You will not believe the propaganda that we're going to show you.
00:03:10.000We're going to show you a clip from CNN that if it was happening in a country that you already were predisposed to
00:03:15.000dislike like for example Russia or perhaps a nation in the United Arab Emirates
00:03:21.000You'd go. Oh look at this propaganda look at this propaganda, but it's actually happening in America
00:03:26.000And what astonishes me is I don't think anyone's actually telling them to do it. I think they're voluntarily just
00:03:30.000censoring themselves or Propagandizing themselves let me know in the chat in the
00:03:34.000comments press the red button if you want to join us on Locals, but as an Englishman I am proud to welcome to our
00:03:40.000noble mighty country Joe Biden President of the United States
00:03:46.000We're going to be showing you a poll later where we asked you, who are you happiest being in charge of this current conflict?
00:05:51.000We're going to have to tell Ron that when he comes in next week when I say you're going to have to work harder to win over the trust of the public because it's still It's still the big man, and I don't mean Joe Biden.
00:06:39.000When America talks about the use of cluster bombs last year, it's because Russia were using them and they said it was reprehensible and in fact a war crime.
00:06:48.000Yeah, Jen Psaki, who was press secretary at the time, she said that the use of cluster bombs by Russia constitutes a war crime.
00:06:56.000NATO Secretary Jen Stoltenberg said we have seen the use of cluster bombs which will be in violation of international law.
00:07:03.000I see here that over a hundred nations, in fact 120 nations I think it is, have banned the use of cluster bombs because...
00:08:05.000He said that Trump's record on war is primarily what attracts him to I think he said he loves Trump didn't he said he loves Trump Well, what do you feel you guys join us over on locals press the red button?
00:08:15.000Let us know in the chat If you want a leader that is going to bring you away from the precipice of an escalating war It's becoming clear that there's an agenda to annihilate Russia to destabilize Russia.
00:08:29.000But the problem is History tells us, demonstrates to us plainly, Russia is not for the annihilating.
00:08:51.000So this comes right after the Human Rights Watch issued a report that said Ukraine has killed its own citizens using cluster munitions.
00:08:59.000So it's, you know, this is affecting Ukrainian citizens and I think that's one of the things that people have been talking about, especially when it comes to, as you say, children.
00:09:07.000Yeah, is it like, you know like how the word cluster is usually used as a prefix for another phrase, like it's a cluster and then F word?
00:09:18.000I won't use it here, because swearing is not allowed on YouTube.
00:09:21.000Another thing I like about Rumble, as a matter of fact, is you can just freely use expletives, which sometimes seems necessary when critiquing the current administration.
00:09:29.000Is it strange that I thought of Kellogg's Honey Nut Crusters?
00:09:54.000Cluster bombs or cluster F words or delicious honey nut clusters.
00:09:57.000The whole thing is coming together in a seemingly despicable way.
00:10:01.000But to get back to the seriousness of it, obviously Biden was saying there, you know, I thought long and hard about it, this is not an easy decision for me.
00:10:08.000The United States has killed more people with cluster munitions than any other country.
00:10:11.000During the Vietnam War, the US dropped millions of cluster bombs in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, and each country is still dealing with them to this day.
00:10:20.000Also, it seems like a pretty easy decision to make because it's a decision that they've simply made.
00:10:28.000This country, I don't think of it as your country anymore because it's a country that's been co-opted.
00:10:32.000It's a country that's being run, I would say, by deep state and corporate interests rather than a republic or a democracy, whatever term you prefer.
00:10:39.000I know you guys are very particular about that stuff.
00:10:42.000In any event, it seems that it's something that's become completely cut off from the will of the people and possibly that's because it's a propagandist state.
00:10:50.000I want to show you now how CNN have reported on that federal judgment that the government have to stop interfering in social media.
00:11:01.000I want to show you how that if this was broadcast anywhere else in the world, if these people happen to be wearing some kind of traditional dress, you would regard it as absolutely outlandish.
00:11:11.000You would identify and recognize it for what it is, propaganda.
00:11:15.000The state are pushing back through the Department of Justice on the recent judgment that they've got to stop interfering in social media posts.
00:11:25.000Unless it's criminal activity or matters of national security.
00:11:37.000Just reading the words in this injunction, a quote, massive effort by the defendants to suppress speech based on content, those are the judge's words, calling the present case quote, arguably involves the most massive attack against free speech in the United States history, Ellie.
00:11:55.000It's a dramatic decision by this judge, if you read through it.
00:11:58.000He's citing to literature and George Washington and Ben Franklin.
00:12:01.000Here's what... Those are pretty significant names in American history, particularly when it comes to constitutional and legislative rights for Americans.
00:12:08.000Like, why wouldn't you cite those names?
00:12:54.000And I believe that what might be right for me might not be right for you.
00:12:57.000And what might be right for the communities that I see myself affiliated with might not be right for your communities.
00:13:02.000And we're going to have different views because we've had different experiences.
00:13:04.000And if you shut down free speech, you shut down the possibility for conversation, you can't have democracy because you can't have debate and you can't have consensus.
00:13:12.000What's more, it's pretty plain that many of the issues that were censored were censored incorrectly and illegally.
00:13:18.000That there's evidence that your rights to free speech, your First Amendment rights, have already been breached.
00:13:24.000How can CNN report on this matter as if the judgment itself is the problem?
00:13:30.000Yeah, I mean, I just don't know how you can argue against something that the injunction issued barred government agencies from talking to social media companies for the purpose of, these are things, urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing in any manner the removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech.
00:13:49.000That doesn't, to me, sound like a crazy, right-wing, Trump-appointed, mad decision to have made.
00:13:56.000Can you come up with an argument for us?
00:14:27.000Autonomy, freedom over your own anatomy, freedom over the kind of choices you make.
00:14:33.000How has these things become politicized?
00:14:35.000How are some issues becoming amplified?
00:14:37.000And how are they becoming The ruling itself is the opposite of judicial conservatism.
00:14:49.000This is one of the most aggressive, far-reaching rulings you'll ever see.
00:14:52.000What this judge is purporting to do is to micromanage, really, the day-to-day interactions between essentially the entire executive branch, all these agencies that are listed as defendants, and the leading social media companies.
00:15:04.000Can't micromanage the government when they're micromanaging you?
00:15:10.000When they're controlling your free speech?
00:15:12.000When they're controlling and manipulating your free speech?
00:15:16.000How can they use the term micromanage when they're talking about the government micromanaging your conversation?
00:15:23.000And as a further irony, there are certain things that I cannot say right now because This censorship is real and it's ongoing.
00:16:16.000Shut down things that you know to be true!
00:16:18.000Yeah, and for the, you know, media, for the press to be saying, essentially, the government, your government, who have the ability to do all sorts of things, should be left to it, shouldn't be under any kind of microscope, should not be micromanaged in any way by the public.
00:16:32.000It's incredible that you get that on a mainstream news outlet.
00:16:36.000What type of relationship do you want with your government?
00:16:39.000Do you see it as parental or do you see it as service?
00:16:42.000I've thought that public officials are meant to be in your service, whether that's legislative, bureaucratic, it's in the service of the people that fund them.
00:16:50.000It can't be that we are an authoritative structure that controls you like a parent.
00:16:56.000To believe in censorship, you have to believe that you yourself or that others are incapable of discerning truth from fiction, making decisions that you believe are valid, or you are inclined towards authoritarianism and want the ability to shut down opposition.
00:17:20.000What that smacks off to me is that the lessons of the last century have been learned in so much as the aesthetics of totalitarianism have altered.
00:17:31.000But the ability to control is being veiled.
00:17:35.000It is being, I would say, sprinkled in saccharine, lubricated with sophistry and fine words.
00:17:42.000Yeah, and once again, CNN, the mouthpiece of the state, is doing what a lot of its critics say it does, and it's doing exactly that here.
00:17:49.000CNN, bundling your data more than pornography would.
00:17:53.000Selling it more than pornography would.
00:17:55.000So next time you're making a decision, CNN or the saucy stuff, now you know!
00:18:00.000In the actual temporary injunction, the judge basically says, you're not allowed, administration, to talk to these social media companies about any protected free speech except for cyber security threats, national security threats, criminal threats.
00:18:29.000This is Karine Jean-Pierre we're gonna have a look at now.
00:18:32.000I feel for her as a matter of fact because I presume that people that get into this line of work are idealists, that believe in change, believe in politics and now like Jen Psaki before every single day she finds herself on the TV having to say this is why cluster bombs are good now this is why censorship is good now no young idealist who believes in politics wants to be a mouthpiece for a government that's blowing up children and controlling conversation have a look at this and I think the only you know the only thing that gets Jen Psaki and maybe
00:19:04.000carrying Jean-Pierre through difficult times like this, I reckon, is the jobs they're
00:19:09.000going to end up having afterwards. But let's have a look at her now justifying
00:19:12.000what is it cluster bombs? This is her saying why cluster bombs with the
00:19:51.000We say all the time, right, when it comes to human rights, when it comes to having those conversations with either our partners or other heads of state, we certainly, the president never shies away from having those conversations.
00:20:06.000Have a look at the number of people that have held that position, that have gone on to have highly paid media positions.
00:20:12.000And this is a bipartisan issue, as it often is.
00:20:14.000Under Joe Biden, Jen Psaki, former press secretary, she's now working at MSNBC.
00:20:18.000You can see under Trump, all these guys that did that job have found their way onto Fox.
00:20:22.000And under Barack Obama, those characters got high paid jobs in media as well.
00:20:26.000And Corinne Jean-Pierre is a former analyst for MSNBC and NBC.
00:20:30.000So it's like a revolving door, in a sense, like it was famously observed by Chomsky, and I know what you're going to say about him in the comments now.
00:20:39.000It was said that by the time you're in that chair, doing that job, you have been pre-selected.
00:20:45.000These interlocking systems of education, of state, of media, of finance, of corporatism, are so porous That by the time you enter one you have been pre-schooled, pre-chewed by other institutions and your agreement and compliance has already been assured.
00:21:04.000A great quote by Julia Rock at The Lever, she says, uh, press secretaries aren't just speaking for the president, they're also auditioning for their future corporate employers.
00:21:12.000But the Democrats purport to be looking out for the interests of working people, and are oftentimes torn between policies that are popular among the base, but would upset corporate donors.
00:21:20.000And that's the situation these press secretaries find themselves in, is that they ultimately know, I'm gonna be going and working for MSNBC, I'm gonna have a plum job there.
00:21:28.000That they can't get to a point of doing anti-establishment messaging when they're speaking for the president, but also speaking for their future corporate employees.
00:21:51.000Now, if you're watching us on YouTube, we're going to have to say goodbye because we are going to be talking about January the 6th and how MSNBC have reported on it.
00:22:01.000There's some other stuff I want to talk about with Tucker as well.
00:22:03.000So if you're watching us on YouTube, click the link in the description.
00:22:07.000Join us over on Rumble where we can speak freely.
00:22:10.000And if you're watching us on Rumble right now, press the red button, join our locals community, a diverse and beautiful community that speak openly to one another, that regulate themselves freely and beautifully.
00:22:23.000So what's this story about January the 6th that we're talking about?
00:22:26.000Alright, so yeah, this is another piece, a bit like the CNN one, but this is MSNBC, and this guy's basically talking about how there couldn't possibly have been collusion between the FBI and social media companies around January 6th because of the events of January 6th.
00:23:11.000I didn't say one single part of his name right, but what I can tell you is that there's not a member of the Friend family that has not got a stick figure of me tattooed on their reproductive organ, which is something we're going to be offering.
00:23:23.000You know, if you're joining me for the community festival this weekend, where Wim Hof is coming, Vandana Shiva, many great freedom fighters, we're offering free tattoos to anyone who wants to even get, stay free, a stick figure of me, or that crow that we have as our logo.
00:23:36.000Does it all have to be on the genitals?
00:23:39.000I'm afraid there is a small charge if it's not on your reproductive organs.
00:23:54.000So remember, Gareth just explained to you He says there can't have been collaboration between the state and social media agencies regarding January the 6th, otherwise January 6th wouldn't have happened.
00:24:05.000Let us know, Rumblers, by giving us a good hard rumble in where it hurts, what you think about that while you watch this clip.
00:24:12.000The argument, especially in the wake of January 6th, that the FBI was too synced up with Twitter or Facebook or any of these social media companies just sort of flies in the face of reality because obviously we saw what happened on January 6th itself.
00:24:26.000You know, the COVID misinformation stuff is a little bit more complicated.
00:29:35.000Cultural issues are of course important but they fall under freedom.
00:29:39.000People's right to identify however they want to identify, to be whoever they want to be, that falls under freedom and it's a two-way street.
00:29:46.000Once you believe in that principle of freedom it resolves everything and to do that I think you have to push this decentralization stuff that me and my cult believe in.
00:33:39.000Mark Zuckerberg has started Fred's just to like annoy Elon Musk and also to provide a place like is it like that episode of The Simpsons where Homer Simpson becomes the head of the stonecutters and then they want Homer Simpson not to be in the stonecutters no more so they just start another group.
00:33:56.000Has Zuckerberg started Fred's just to have a place that they can censor?
00:34:00.000Well, I mean, this is, this, it does look very much like it is the censored version of Twitter, which is obviously the thing that everyone wants.
00:35:17.000He said, like, oh, it was, you know, it was a bit more complicated.
00:35:20.000It wasn't complicated, was it, Gareth?
00:35:21.000They censored true information, like Robert Malone, who invented RMNA technology, was censored because he was saying, this ain't the right way to handle this.
00:35:30.000You don't vaccinate during a pandemic.
00:36:01.000I mean, on the first day, so I think they've had 30 million signups, but on the first day of operations, users already reported having their posts taken down, mainly for political reasons.
00:36:09.000Some accounts, they say they are being blacklisted or greylisted.
00:36:13.000When you try and follow a problematic person on threads, you might be warned that their account has posted false information or has violated community guidelines.
00:36:20.000So all the things that were revealed by the Twitter files, all the things that Michael Schellenberg and Matt Taibbi have talked about, are literally now happening on this brand new platform.
00:36:27.000I can't believe that, that the result of the Twitter files, where people went, hey listen, the deep state are censoring you, there are literally FBI employees here pulling stuff down, they're censoring true information, there's a degree of collaboration that we could never have ever imagined.
00:36:42.000Oh, alright, well let's leave that one and set one where that continues to happen!
00:36:48.000Because Elon Musk is committed to preventing it.
00:36:50.000Even Elon Musk has admitted that if the EU introduces the laws that it's proposing that will allow them to censor and will mean that social media companies that don't censor content that the EU demands will be subject to fines that they'll be unable to handle.
00:37:06.000All around the world, in the Five Eyes countries, they're looking to find ways to reassert censorship.
00:37:14.000It is Ross and this is obviously there's a very kind of binary reporting of all this as well because now it's kind of Zuckerberg versus Musk thread versus Twitter but you know people have a lot of things to say about Elon Musk and about you know how censorship he's letting right-wing people in, he's platforming so-and-so but Facebook's owner Meta was fined 1.2 billion euros for mishandling people's data when transferring it between Europe and the United States.
00:37:40.000So, these privacy violations that Meta is getting fined a billion pounds for, or over a billion dollars for, you know, when this is, when obviously all the kind of positive reports that they're getting about Threads versus... They're saying Threads is great in the mainstream.
00:37:55.000Right, versus, you know, the negative publicity around Elon Musk and Twitter.
00:37:59.000That guy's getting so much hate and shade.
00:38:01.000Tamara Spencer says, I said from the beginning that Fred's was going to be a censorship platform for the government.
00:38:06.000Zuckerberg is still a government shill.
00:38:08.000God, do you agree with Tamara Spencer, you guys?
00:39:16.000In a way, it's a good metric for observing what's happening now.
00:39:20.000Free speech is being conflated with hate speech.
00:39:24.000The safety is being equated with censorship.
00:39:28.000We're censoring you to keep you safe from hate speech.
00:39:32.000I think that gives us an obligation to be very Respectful, even reverential towards one another, and particularly respectful and loving to people we disagree with.
00:39:41.000To approach people in good faith, to believe in their right to hold different views from us.
00:39:46.000Because otherwise what they can legitimately do is go, oh Twitter, there's too much hate speech over there.
00:39:49.000We're going to start up Fred's and we're going to keep it all free from hate by allowing the deep state to curb that hate.
00:42:03.000Yeah, I mean, obviously we know the Biden administration is appealing this social media censorship ban at the moment, and a really good point that I saw earlier was the current administration and its media supporters like to talk about the importance of election integrity, but how about supporting the integrity of your judicial system?
00:42:20.000So, you know, when it comes to this federal judge made a decision that obviously we saw the CNN reaction to it, but it's a
00:42:30.000judicial reaction and what am I trying to say? The judge essentially made a decision.
00:42:38.000Yeah, it's a verdict based on evidence.
00:43:53.000We talked about January the 6th with Tucker saying that FBI agents were likely in the crowd.
00:43:58.000That's something that those FBI whistleblowers said when they came on our show before.
00:44:01.000We talked too about the Ukraine war and Tucker's belief that it is primarily motivated by the economic requirements of the military-industrial complex.
00:44:11.000We talked about the reasons that he left Fox.
00:44:13.000It was amazing to have a person of his stature, magnitude, conviviality, congeniality, kindness, and indeed, let's face it, a controversial figure like him here on our premises as part of our media organisation.
00:44:27.000It shows me that media has changed now.
00:44:31.000that Tucker Carlson chose our organisation as the place to make these revelations is
00:44:35.000an indication that the mainstream is kind of over. Let me know if you agree with that
00:44:39.000in the comments. In fact, partly what it seems to me that our entire cultural conflict is
00:44:44.000defined by now is establishment authority trying to assert itself in conditions that
00:44:50.000are no longer appropriate for it. Put simply, technology and communications has changed
00:44:56.000This enables decentralised media and indeed political models to thrive.
00:45:01.000The establishment cannot afford or allow that.
00:45:04.000When I say the establishment, I mean anything from CNN to Fox to The FBI, to the CIA, to MI5, to the WHO.
00:45:11.000These are, by their nature, centralised authoritarian structures that require these new models to be restrained.
00:45:18.000Firstly, in a way, this is a victory for independent media.
00:45:21.000As Glenn Greenwald pointed out in his tweet, Russell Brand's live midday interview with Tucker Carlson on Rumble was watched by almost 1 million people within the first few hours.
00:45:31.000Numbers that CNN can't dream of matching ever, let alone in Friday daytime in late July.
00:45:36.000I suppose that shows you that media has changed now.
00:45:38.000The type of conversations that you want to listen to, the type of conversations that you want to participate in have altered and the mainstream can't keep up with that.
00:45:46.000People like that are seeking out independent media because the establishment is fundamentally conservative.
00:45:50.000I don't mean conservative politically, I mean wants to keep things the same.
00:45:53.000it whether it's the right thing to do. A popular figure like RFK emerges out of the Democrat
00:45:57.000establishment whilst attacking it, which I believe is what's necessary. They can't house
00:46:01.000him or frame him. People like that are seeking out independent media because the establishment
00:46:05.000is fundamentally conservative. I don't mean conservative politically, I mean wants to
00:46:09.000keep things the same. Preservative. Let's have a look at our conversation with Tucker
00:46:15.000Let's share some personal reflections.
00:46:16.000Like, for example, he was polite and kind to every single person here on the premises.
00:47:48.000But my views have remained pretty much the same They've evolved, you know, as things have changed.
00:47:53.000But in general, I've been skeptical of the storylines and all kinds of different things.
00:47:57.000And I certainly was for the 14 years I was at Fox.
00:48:01.000And they were always, they didn't agree with me, of course, I don't think, but they were always very nice to me and they always let me say what I wanted.
00:48:09.000Not one time did they tell me not to say anything.
00:48:11.000So I was always grateful to Fox and I am in retrospect grateful to Fox for that.
00:48:15.000So that never changed up until the moment they called me and said, you know, we're taking the show off the air.
00:48:22.000I know, but I do think as a general matter, not even about me, the war in Ukraine is a red line for For a lot of people in business and politics.
00:48:32.000And you see it in our politics in the U.S.
00:48:34.000where the leaders of the Republican Party in the Congress, who really are repulsive in my view, are now supporting sending cluster bombs to Ukraine.
00:50:01.000And then I interviewed the chief of the Capitol Police.
00:50:06.000Steven Sund in an interview that was never aired on Fox by the way I was fired before it could air
00:50:10.000I'm gonna interview him again, but Steven Sund was the totally non-political
00:50:15.000Worked for Nancy Pelosi. I mean this was not some right-wing activist
00:50:19.000He was the chief of the Capitol Police on January 6th, then he said oh yeah, yeah that crowd was filled
00:50:23.000With federal agents what yes well He would know of course because he was in charge of
00:50:29.000security at the site One moment that I found fascinating let me know in the
00:50:33.000comments if you agree was Tucker's assertion that Trump is the most
00:50:36.000significant political force to emerge in America in the last 100 years.
00:50:39.000He compares him, of course, to that other great American populist, Teddy Roosevelt.
00:50:44.000What do you think Tucker meant about Trump being the most significant force?
00:50:48.000Do you think he means that Trump was a wrecking ball to the establishment, the swamp drainer?
00:50:53.000Do you think that Trump was the emergence of a different type of politics, a new populism?
00:50:57.000Do you think that Trump is the symptom of a dying establishment?
00:51:01.000Do you think that Trump is authentic when he says he's going to change things for small businesses, ordinary Americans, that he's going to make America great again?
00:51:09.000What do you think is the significance of Donald Trump?
00:51:13.000Plainly, well, literally, Tucker says he loves him.
00:51:16.000It seems you have occupied varying positions on Trump at various times.
00:51:21.000Where are you on Donald Trump now, and particularly perhaps how that relates to the emergence of radical anti-establishment figures within the Democrat Party, notably RFK?
00:52:05.000And so there's a primary going on in the United States between Trump and a bunch of other people, primarily Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, but others.
00:52:22.000I, you know, I think looking back on this 10 years from now, assuming we're still around, I think we're going to see Trump's emergence as the most significant thing to happen in American politics in 100 years, because he reoriented the Republican Party against the wishes of Republican leaders.
00:52:40.000Uh, but when I think about Trump right now, so it's July of 2023, you know, I'm struck by his foreign policy views.
00:52:49.000You know, Trump is the only person, um, with stature in the Republican Party, really, who's saying, wait a second, you know, why are we supporting an endless war in Ukraine?
00:53:03.000And that, you know, leaving aside whether Trump's going to get the nomination or get elected president or would be a good president, you know, I can't even assess that.
00:53:10.000All I can say at this point is I'm so grateful that he has that position.
00:53:26.000I mean, I was just in Romania last week.
00:53:30.000We still don't know what Tucker Carlson will do as a broadcaster, but it seems increasingly likely it will be as an independent media journalist.
00:53:49.000For now at least, he is operating within Twitter.
00:53:51.000Is that because his Fox contract prohibits other types of relationships?
00:53:56.000Let me know what you think in the comments.
00:53:57.000What did he think about Elon Musk and what is the nature of his financial relationship with, perhaps, the most powerful new media operator in the game, Elon Musk?
00:54:08.000We were all amongst us thinking, where will Tucker go?
00:54:33.000I mean, I've, you know, I think that's fair.
00:54:35.000I've made zero money since I left, and that's fine.
00:54:40.000But at some point I'd like to, but I'm not working for Elon Musk.
00:54:43.000He hasn't offered to hire me, and if he did, I wouldn't accept.
00:54:48.000But what he's done is offered me that what he's offered every other user of Twitter which is a you know a chance to broadcast Your views without a gatekeeper there.
00:54:58.000But I do think, you know, I think the technology at Twitter is my expectation is evolving.
00:55:03.000And I think, you know, the subscription model, you know, might work or might not.
00:55:08.000You know, I don't know, but I think it might.
00:55:10.000And and I plan to I plan to stay there.
00:55:13.000But what social media offer in the short term, at least for me, is an audience, but also a reason.
00:55:20.000This is personal, but a reason to write.
00:55:21.000I can't think clearly without writing.
00:55:24.000You know, I started in this business as a magazine writer and a book writer, newspaper writer, and I need to write things out.
00:55:30.000I'm very dyslexic and I can't, you know, I have trouble processing information in certain ways.
00:55:35.000And unless I'm forced to write a script, I can't really decide what I think about something.
00:55:40.000and so the daily or regular discipline of writing a script forces me,
00:55:46.000and in some cases it really is forced, I don't want to do it, I'd much rather go fishing or bird hunting,
00:55:50.000you know, I would, but if I have to I will, and there's something wonderful in that,
00:55:56.000you know, writing a script as you know, forces you to think through everything about the issue,
00:56:02.000to have a much deeper understanding of it, at least for me that's true.
00:56:06.000Well let me know what questions do you think I should have asked Tucker Carlson.
00:56:10.000What would you have liked to have seen more of?
00:56:11.000Are you excited about the way that independent media is shaping up?
00:56:15.000Do you share my belief that independent media and independent politics are now forever enmeshed?
00:56:20.000In a sense, it's one movement, because if you're anti-surveillance, anti-censorship, anti-globalism, anti-authoritarianism, Anti-closing-down-debate and closing-down-conversation, anti-bad-faith-conflagration-causing-reporting, then necessarily you're going to have to convey that through media, and in order to change it, you're going to have to become politicised.
00:56:41.000That's why I regard what we're doing now more as a movement.
00:56:45.000Than as a broadcast channel in the conventional sense.
00:56:48.000I know we have an obligation to you and I hope you feel you have an obligation to us to continue to watch us, to share our content, to guide us, to let us know when we've made mistakes, to let us know when we are guilty of the errors that the mainstream makes, removing nuance, personal biases, deliberate manipulation.
00:57:52.000You can't even defend me from making this sound like a cult and appreciate my compliments properly.
00:57:57.000Hey, listen you lot, guess what we're going to do?
00:57:59.000We're going to go exclusively onto Locals now and we're going to show that bit of Trump and Rogan cuddling and all that and talk about that, plus we'll take your questions.
00:58:08.000Listen, if you're a member of Locals, sometimes you can join interviews live, like when I talked to Eckhart Tolle in about a month, plus Oliver Stone coming up soon, plus Ron DeSantis, he coming up a couple of days now, isn't it?
00:59:09.000Now, this guy, Geisel, Sound of Freedom fella, he's made a film about, like, basically, don't nonce, stop child sex trafficking, which I thought would be an issue we'd all be able to unite around.
00:59:20.000Like, like, I don't know, you don't want the earth to be sort of blown up by killer aliens or don't chop... I mean, like, there's so many... Cluster bombs?
00:59:57.000The Geezer, right, this is made by the people that made The Chosen, which was a series some of you will know about our Lord and Saviour J.C.
01:00:04.000Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Lamb.
01:00:07.000Well, the Geezer that played Jesus in it, when I was on ballers with The Rock, he was my body double!
01:00:24.000And then Jim Careasle there, what I'm going to say to him is, look mate, you may have been Jesus in a film, but I had Jesus as my body double.
01:01:07.000He goes in and gets secrets about how much money, your taxpayer money's been wasted on crazy... They spent over 10 million dollars teaching monkeys to suck dicks!