Stay Free - Russel Brand - February 24, 2023


UFOs - Real or Distraction? With Jeremy Corbell - #088 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

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Bob Lazar Jeremy Corbyn Roswell George Knapp Joe Rogan George Napanai Jay Stratton Hey Russell Eric Von Daniken Anomalous Phenomena Close Encounters Robert Bigelow Tucker Carlson Russell Brand Timothy Goode Rachel Column Foo Fighters Ben Shapiro Bill Maher Bob Exler and 10 more
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Jeremy Corbell is a journalist, writer, podcaster, and podcaster. He has been reporting on UFOs for decades. In this episode, Jeremy talks about how the mainstream media has been manipulating the UFO phenomenon to make it seem like it is something other than it is, and why it is so important to have a conversation about it. He also talks about the growing number of UFO sightings across the world, and how the government and the media have been working together to cover them up and keep the public in the dark about them, even though they are a real phenomenon. He also discusses the role of the media in covering them and how they can be used to distract us from the real problem at hand, which is alien life. This episode is sponsored by Planet Earth, the greatest show in the solar system. After the first 10 minutes, we will be exclusively available on Rumble, because the conversation gets too controversial for the mainstream, and we have to be able to speak freely. After that, the whole show will be available only on Rumble! Subscribe to stay free with Russell Brand wherever you re listening to Planet Earth. Stay Free With Russell Brand - Subscribe, Like, Share, and Retweet this episode! If you like what you hear, share it on your social media, and spread the word to your friends about this amazing podcast! Stay Free with Russell! and spread it around the world! Logo by Courtney DeKorte and Fyjor! . Music by PSOVOD and Fjorden - The Dark Side of the Sky - is a production of Gimlet.co.uk We are working on a new EPISODE that's coming soon and we'll be putting out a new ad-free version of this episode on the podcast on all of our social media platforms, coming soon! Subscribe and review it on Apple Podcasts, too! , and so much more. Please rate and review us on Anchor and Podchaser on Podchor.co we're listening to this podcast on the podchor, and so you can help spread it everywhere you get the best of what you listen to it! - we'll know what you're listening about it's cool, it's awesome, it'll help us out there, too, too much more like it's amazing, and more like that's cool like that, right? Thank you!

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00:01:07.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders!
00:01:09.000 Welcome to Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:01:11.000 It's a special Friday edition.
00:01:13.000 Wherever you are watching this, the whole show will only be available on Rumble.
00:01:19.000 Every Friday, we have in-depth conversations with free thinkers, radicals, academics, thought leaders, influencers, philosophers, and downright scoundrels.
00:01:28.000 After the first 10 minutes, we will be exclusively available on Rumble because the conversation gets too controversial for the mainstream.
00:01:36.000 We have to be able to speak freely.
00:02:01.000 It is now admitted by our government.
00:02:03.000 People don't know that.
00:02:04.000 By the ongoing work of the Department of Defense regarding unidentified aerial phenomenon.
00:02:09.000 Jeremy, what is the Mosul Orb?
00:02:10.000 This is a UFO, man.
00:02:12.000 We don't know who it's from.
00:02:13.000 From the sky will come redemption.
00:02:16.000 This is not science fiction.
00:02:20.000 This is science fact.
00:02:24.000 From the stars, from the skies, from the ulterior realms, the extraterrestrial interconnector, Jeremy Corbell himself!
00:02:32.000 Alright, Jeremy.
00:02:34.000 Hey Russell, how you doing, man?
00:02:35.000 I feel pretty positive.
00:02:36.000 I'm really excited to speak to you at this exciting time in your field of expertise.
00:02:40.000 How are you, mate?
00:02:41.000 Great.
00:02:42.000 I'm really good, man.
00:02:43.000 Everything is awesome.
00:02:44.000 You know, welcome to Planet Earth, the greatest show in the solar system.
00:02:47.000 It's getting wild, man.
00:02:49.000 Do you know where I want to start for our audience?
00:02:52.000 There's so many people, like myself, that have been fascinated with UFO phenomena, with extraterrestrial life, how that, how this This issue in particular could be at odds with the interests of the powerful because it suggests that there's a whole new ontological perspective that we're not considering.
00:03:09.000 It undermines our myths of progressivism, our understanding of our technology and how we got it, our understanding of scriptural writing, the Bible, the Torah.
00:03:18.000 Could they have been influenced by extraterrestrial guides, the great symbology within the pyramids of Egypt?
00:03:24.000 But suddenly now, the mainstream media appear to be reporting on UFOs, utilising UFOs to create, if not a distraction, to certainly manipulate the mainstream narrative.
00:03:36.000 Are you aware of what I'm talking about and how do you manage that in your unique position, Jeremy?
00:03:41.000 Yeah, look, it's really interesting that right now you're seeing it everywhere.
00:03:44.000 But if you look at kind of what I was saying with George Knapp, all of this right now, these shootdowns of these balloons, this has been happening since the 40s and 50s that we've had these platforms for reconnaissance.
00:03:57.000 This is an absolute game show about UFOs.
00:04:01.000 Now, the phenomenon itself is real.
00:04:03.000 There are unidentified, there are machines of unknown origin that were fabricated by some nation, maybe here, maybe not from here.
00:04:12.000 It's just been happening so long, so what you're seeing in the media is absolutely a manipulation of the phenomenon itself.
00:04:18.000 But, but, but, and remember, for the first time ever, we had a congressional hearing on this, actually first time in 50 years, and what they were trying to do was destigmatize the reporting process.
00:04:30.000 People are coming to me, as you can see from my releases, And I'm putting stuff out that should go up the chain of command.
00:04:36.000 So what we are seeing also, other than the media creating a sideshow, is we're seeing a true attempt to get pilots to report this stuff without stigma, to reduce the stigma.
00:04:47.000 So absolutely, there is a media spin, as always, we know that.
00:04:52.000 But there is a real phenomenon, and now people are looking at it.
00:04:55.000 I've never doubted the possibility of extraterrestrial life, which I suppose is the most exciting possibility that could lie behind these phenomena, that it's truly an expression of something non-terrestrial.
00:05:10.000 What fascinates me now that I've become more immersed in the alternative media space is that during a period where there are escalating tensions between the United States and Russia, potentially even between the United States and China, We're hearing more of these stories.
00:05:28.000 I was... I grew up on things like Roswell, Bob Lazar, Bob Exler, those whistleblowers, people that understood, like, extraterrestrial technology.
00:05:36.000 Those things, like, or Timothy Goode, Eric von Daniken.
00:05:39.000 This, like, world fascinated me because I knew there was something significant in it.
00:05:44.000 But it really, it surprises me.
00:05:47.000 It surprises me to hear the kind of sources that I've always been cynical about, sceptical of, talking about them.
00:05:55.000 You know, like we were talking to the production team here about how, like in a lot of your appearances on media, you'll go, now it's Jeremy Corbell!
00:06:02.000 And now they use the X-Files music, they kind of position it as a Almost as a now finally story, when actually what we could be dealing with is some, like this is what I think we've become trained to understand, that any story or idea that could meaningfully impact the interests of the powerful are always tightly managed and controlled.
00:06:26.000 You don't get given, like, you can take anything from climate change to war to the pandemic.
00:06:30.000 The version of events that you're given is the version of events that's going to be most beneficial to the powerful.
00:06:35.000 And with such a unique and unusual story like this one, I wonder how you feel it conforms to those parameters.
00:06:43.000 The idea that now military personnel are talking, are speaking out, and we've all known like, you know, about Foo Fighters and the way that even way back in the 40s
00:06:51.000 people talked about stuff and what about some of those ideas about that, you know, I
00:06:54.000 know you know loads more about this stuff than I do, like you know, that the Nazi Party
00:06:58.000 were interacting with the extra, all of it, I'm down for all of that stuff, but now I'm
00:07:03.000 always trying to alloy it to, how is this being used to control us? And it used to make
00:07:08.000 sense, when they wouldn't talk about it and they wouldn't admit it, I'm like, oh well
00:07:11.000 it's definitely true. And now it's like it's flooding the media space. So I'm just, I'm
00:07:15.000 struggling to adapt and I I wonder how you're adapting.
00:07:20.000 Yeah, so look, make no doubt about it.
00:07:22.000 There is spin on the UFO thing, but here you're seeing a collision right now.
00:07:26.000 This is what I call acquisition anarchy.
00:07:29.000 Right now, we are able to acquire these on what's called the ASA radar.
00:07:33.000 So when pilots fly, they're seeing them, they're picking up on this collective radar.
00:07:38.000 The phenomenon itself that include UFOs, it's become so Prevalent.
00:07:44.000 It is absolutely ubiquitous across the globe.
00:07:47.000 So what happens is you have more people that are seeing these, that are reporting these, that have evidence, that have video.
00:07:53.000 That's why I've been able to obtain and release a bunch of pilot filmed video in different systems like FLIR, Forward Looking Infrared, Optics, IR.
00:08:03.000 So we have corroborative visual evidence. 0.84
00:08:05.000 So what's happening is the powers that be, they're like, oh shit, All of a sudden we're seeing these and we need to deal with it. 0.91
00:08:12.000 How do we utilize that information to our benefit? 0.96
00:08:15.000 So that's what you're seeing in the media.
00:08:17.000 However, independent journalism, journalists like myself and my mentor George Knapp, we are the kind of gatekeepers of this information because people see it being lost when they send it up through command.
00:08:29.000 So they're reaching out to us, whistleblowers.
00:08:31.000 And I will also say, That there are people on the inside.
00:08:35.000 I know them.
00:08:37.000 They're trying to do the right thing.
00:08:39.000 They're trying to open up what has been covered up.
00:08:42.000 This is not science fiction.
00:08:43.000 This is science fact.
00:08:45.000 This is absolutely 100% true.
00:08:47.000 100% true. So what they're doing is they're putting into place whistleblower protection
00:08:53.000 acts. So someone like Bob Lazar, he can now go in front of Congress, the Senate Intelligence Committee,
00:08:58.000 he can tell them what he knows about secret programs, and then he'll be protected because
00:09:03.000 they have these reprisal kind of defenses that they built into this in the National
00:09:09.000 Defense Authorization Act of 2023.
00:09:11.000 Biden signed it.
00:09:12.000 It's pretty crazy. 1.00
00:09:13.000 So, on one hand, you have people saying, oh, shit, we can't control this. 0.99
00:09:17.000 We need to get ahead of it. 0.98
00:09:19.000 On the other hand, you have journalists like me and George and people leak to us, but we obtain and release.
00:09:24.000 Footage that is contained within classified briefings, but inherently unclassified.
00:09:28.000 So they're stuck between, you know, a rock and a UFO.
00:09:31.000 They don't know what to do.
00:09:32.000 But I do believe in humanity and in individuals doing the right thing.
00:09:38.000 So this cloak of secrecy, this cone of silence is now being lifted to some degree, but we got to watch them.
00:09:45.000 We got to watch them because they're going to spin it.
00:09:47.000 They're going to change it.
00:09:48.000 They're going to lock it back up.
00:09:49.000 And as soon as we get close to the goodies, which is the actual craft of unknown origin, not from planet Earth, as the New York Times reported correctly, which is odd that they reported anything correctly.
00:10:00.000 But there we go.
00:10:02.000 As soon as we get close to that.
00:10:04.000 They're going to try to lock it back down and I've already seen it.
00:10:06.000 Companies like Lockheed, Boeing, Raytheon, they're all looking how to obscure this information so they don't get busted in the crime of covering it up from the first place.
00:10:16.000 So, this does involve the deep state.
00:10:19.000 It does involve the military-industrial complex.
00:10:22.000 If there are extraterrestrial technologies, if there are materials, substances, ideas that can be utilized for profit and for power, of course they're going to find their way into the hands of the most powerful interests on on earth. If you're watching this on YouTube or Twitter
00:10:38.000 right now, we're going to click over to exclusively on Rumble. There's a link in the
00:10:43.000 description. Join us there because I'm very excited to talk to Jeremy about the, I think I'm
00:10:46.000 saying this right, the Mosul Orb, new video evidence that helps us to understand just how
00:10:53.000 extraordinary this technology is.
00:10:56.000 Me in particular, what I'm interested in is stuff that's not of terrestrial origin and how powerful interests are utilizing these technologies.
00:11:04.000 And what kind of ontological questions does it present us with?
00:11:07.000 I remember at the beginning of the pandemic, we thought now that we've all got a shared problem, perhaps it's going to bring people together.
00:11:13.000 Well, that didn't work out quite that way.
00:11:15.000 Click the link and join us on Rumble.
00:11:16.000 Me and Jeremy are going to go a little bit deeper now.
00:11:19.000 Jeremy, what is the Mosul Orb?
00:11:21.000 And tell us, is this a particularly significant sighting?
00:11:24.000 Yeah, it's really significant that it was able to be seen by the public.
00:11:29.000 So let me be very abundantly clear.
00:11:32.000 There are these orbs, these spheres.
00:11:35.000 You said Foo Fighters, which all the way back to World War II, you have these metallic spheres that are traversing our restricted or war zone or combat areas.
00:11:46.000 And what happens is, through all of these decades, none of them ever have come out from military film.
00:11:53.000 Until now, I was able to obtain this image, which, by the way, was from a classified briefing about UFOs, or what they call UAP, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.
00:12:07.000 That's the true definition now.
00:12:09.000 And I was able to obtain it and release it And this image is the first time the world is ever seeing one of these UAP from a conflict zone. 0.82
00:12:20.000 Now, why is this important?
00:12:21.000 People were laughing when I said it about a year ago until they start understanding that it's true, which is that we sometimes shoot at these unknowns.
00:12:31.000 We shoot at them, but not just us.
00:12:34.000 We also know that Russia and Syria fire upon the same units, the same objects, which means it's not theirs. 0.83
00:12:40.000 So whose is it?
00:12:42.000 Now, this image, the Mosul Orb, is from northern Iraq.
00:12:45.000 Luckily, I was able to obtain it and release it.
00:12:47.000 But here's the deal.
00:12:48.000 It is from within a classified briefing.
00:12:50.000 What was that classified briefing?
00:12:52.000 That classified briefing, which was authored by a man named Jay Stratton, who ran the UFO programs for the United States for a while.
00:12:59.000 He put it in there to educate pilots and aviators and our warfighters.
00:13:04.000 Hey, this is what we're seeing.
00:13:05.000 This is one of those UFOs.
00:13:07.000 You should and can report it.
00:13:09.000 We're not going to call you cuckoo.
00:13:10.000 We get it.
00:13:11.000 We see it on radar.
00:13:12.000 We want to know more about it.
00:13:14.000 Because if we shoot at these, If we shoot at these in conflict zones and we don't know whose they are, we could misidentify and have a fight between two countries because we're shooting at UFOs.
00:13:24.000 This happens on a daily basis.
00:13:26.000 Our pilots are seeing these orbs.
00:13:28.000 Now, they're also pyramid in shape.
00:13:29.000 They're also cubes with spherical auras, which is reported by pilots.
00:13:33.000 So what you're seeing It's an image they don't want you to see.
00:13:38.000 It's from a video.
00:13:39.000 They don't want you to see it.
00:13:41.000 So the Pentagon is sitting there right now like, hmm, what do I do?
00:13:44.000 Jeremy just released an image.
00:13:46.000 We know it is from a classified briefing.
00:13:47.000 It is of a UFO, and we've designated UFO, and it's in a classified briefing.
00:13:51.000 What do we do?
00:13:52.000 Are we honest to the public?
00:13:53.000 That's what they're thinking.
00:13:55.000 So right now, Susan Goh, who's a woman who's the spokesperson at the Pentagon, is trying to figure out what to say.
00:14:01.000 And right now she says, I have nothing for you.
00:14:04.000 I mean, she says that to mainstream media.
00:14:05.000 She says that to independent journalists.
00:14:07.000 Well, they do got something for you.
00:14:08.000 They got a four second video that they can release to the American global public.
00:14:12.000 So I'm pushing, I'm pushing, trying to put gasoline Back onto this fire and make sure that they try to put out in the right way to the American and global public what this is.
00:14:22.000 This is a UFO, man.
00:14:24.000 Straight up.
00:14:25.000 They've made sure it's not a balloon.
00:14:26.000 They made sure it's not a satellite.
00:14:28.000 If you ever see the video, which I hope you do, it moves from the right side of your screen to the left.
00:14:32.000 It is under intelligent control and it is not ours.
00:14:36.000 It is not China's. 0.98
00:14:36.000 It is not Russia's. 0.98
00:14:37.000 This is not a balloon.
00:14:38.000 This is an intelligent controlled machine that is advanced and we don't know who it's from.
00:14:46.000 Jeremy, do you ever wonder what the philosophical and ideological impact will be of meaningful contact?
00:14:54.000 Do you assume, as many experts in your field have over the last 50 years, that contact between non-terrestrial entities and deep state officials has been ongoing.
00:15:11.000 I feel that in order to ensure that people appreciate how significant this It's important to bring to the forefront that we're talking about something that will alter our perspective of reality, our perspective of cosmology, geography, epistemology, our understanding of knowledge and history has to alter.
00:15:38.000 If we've been in regular, continual contact with UFOs.
00:15:44.000 All of this is, of course, speculative.
00:15:45.000 How could it be otherwise?
00:15:46.000 But the possibility that human evolution is being impacted, influenced, even directed.
00:15:52.000 Some of those theories about that we're living in a simulation start to have a different kind of grounding.
00:16:01.000 We'll start with this, Jeremy.
00:16:03.000 How deep do you envisage this contact goes?
00:16:08.000 You know, when you say the government, the Pentagon don't want people to see the Mosul Orb, what do you imagine is in those vast nowhere hangars?
00:16:18.000 What do you imagine is the kind of contact they've had?
00:16:21.000 What do you think Reagan meant when he said at the screening of Close Encounters, there's only a few people in the room that know how real this stuff is, how deep do you think the contact has gone and do you think it influences events here?
00:16:38.000 Right, so I don't need to believe, I don't have the luxury of disbelief about this.
00:16:43.000 You know, it is my job to speak with people in different levels of government and the military and pilots and, you know, look man, I don't have the luxury of disbelief.
00:16:54.000 I know for certain, and it has been proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt, that we have full intact craft and machines that we've been trying to reverse engineer.
00:17:04.000 And I'll just say it, ma'am.
00:17:06.000 These machines, they're not from here.
00:17:08.000 Whoever built these appear to be a non-human intelligence.
00:17:12.000 Now, where they're from, because the word extraterrestrial means just not from Earth, but also the word alien.
00:17:19.000 You know, what is alien?
00:17:20.000 Alien is anything that is alien to us, right?
00:17:24.000 So, I know for certain that there have been limited comms or communications with whoever these builders, we'll just call them occupants, or builders of these craft are.
00:17:34.000 Now, are we being told the truth when we've had these comms with these builders or occupants, right?
00:17:40.000 And that I have no idea how could I possibly know, but I do know that we have reverse engineering exploitation programs for non terrestrial technology and I have brought forward witnesses.
00:17:52.000 I brought forward witnesses publicly as well as privately.
00:17:56.000 I brought witnesses forward so within government people know who they are and I will be bringing a lot more people forward that have actually worked on these technologies.
00:18:04.000 Verified, bonafide, no mystery, they've been part of these reverse engineering SAP's special access programs.
00:18:13.000 So look man, it's happening.
00:18:15.000 Now what is the implication of this?
00:18:18.000 And that's the huge question you just asked.
00:18:21.000 You know, how could I possibly know?
00:18:23.000 I know for me, I feel like I have a right to know, a need to know, and a personal duty to find out, but I also believe the global public has too.
00:18:31.000 Look at it this way.
00:18:32.000 If our universe, if the fabric of our reality, if the nature and the topography of what we understand to be real is vastly different, Then what we are being told and that is known, that is known by certain parties from mathematics and physics and material science to just the idea that we are not alone in the universe.
00:18:54.000 And not only that, but we have had contact for a long durational period.
00:18:59.000 Maybe we can't trust those we've had contact with.
00:19:01.000 That's a big deal.
00:19:03.000 Now, the reason for the secrecy, dude, this is like so obvious once you really grasp it.
00:19:08.000 It's so simple.
00:19:10.000 This technology can be weaponized.
00:19:13.000 We're talking about weapons of mass destruction.
00:19:15.000 The actual propulsion system in these craft are gravitational.
00:19:20.000 If anybody can catch up with the material science to making these materials, which you would need atomic layering in a zero-gravity environment, if we were able to replicate that, let's say China does, let's say Russia does, All of a sudden, what happens is that country has an advantage beyond anything that has ever occurred in the history of humankind. 0.65
00:19:42.000 So this is being taken very seriously by people within our Defense Department.
00:19:47.000 I can attest to that personally, that I know that to be true.
00:19:51.000 This is not a fringe topic.
00:19:52.000 This is classified at the highest level of national security within your government, within my government.
00:19:59.000 Now we got some goodies.
00:20:01.000 And we're trying to work on them.
00:20:02.000 But the big question is, how does it change humanity?
00:20:05.000 How does it change the way that we interact with our family?
00:20:09.000 How does it change the way that we prioritize our jobs, our work, what we do with our life?
00:20:14.000 Once we learn that we are part of a bigger ecosystem, a cosmic ecosystem, and that distance and space and time is irrelevant to travel, It changes the way that we deal with fossil fuels.
00:20:28.000 It changes the way that we deal with our basic understanding of interfacing through electronics and communications.
00:20:33.000 It changes everything, and it changes it now.
00:20:37.000 We are slow to grow.
00:20:39.000 That is true about humanity.
00:20:40.000 We are slow to grow.
00:20:41.000 But the thing is, we're smart, we're capable, and we do grow.
00:20:45.000 It's time they open the books on the UFO topic.
00:20:48.000 You know that if you change our understanding of, I don't know if you call it post-Newtonian physics, our understanding of distance, space, time, velocity, the way that this gravity-based propulsion system suggests that we could do, then I suppose you have to similarly examine The worldviews and philosophies that have grown out of the scarcity and limitation-based ideals that are underrated by that, like the temporal ideology, time is limited and linear, you know, those sort of, obviously some of Einstein, the theory of relativity challenges that, that space is a sort of an absolute commodity, but there are things in quantum physics that query that, about sort of those objects traveling beyond the speed of light, for example,
00:21:41.000 Or, you know, the objects might not be right when you're talking about quantum phenomena.
00:21:45.000 So, it seems then, I wonder, it becomes difficult to envisage what the ideologies and philosophies of a species of beings that are able to operate at that level might be, and suggests to me at least, Jeremy, that they might regard us more like flora and fauna, Rather than peers.
00:22:08.000 We'd be more, we're in ant farm territory, rather than, you know, shared members of some space council.
00:22:17.000 And I am reminded of the sort of thing Neil deGrasse Tyson sort of said when he was on our show, but I know he says it a lot, because it's pretty cool, if we're 2% smart, if the 2% difference between us and chimps represents all of culture as we understand it, A 2% more advanced species than us would have access to ideas that we can't even conceive of. 0.72
00:22:39.000 I suppose that's why in our conversation we have to continually move between what's demonstrably true, even though those aspects of this story Any area where you're not getting involved in speculation and conjecture is why you have to be a little more disciplined in the conversation.
00:22:56.000 But I'm accustomed, much like their machinery, to move from the quantum realm to the cosmic realm.
00:23:04.000 To move between, well, if this is true, then what does that mean?
00:23:06.000 If this is true, what does that mean?
00:23:08.000 Because that's what fascinates me.
00:23:09.000 I suppose your relationship with Bob Lazar must be super significant to you because he's a person that's been in this space for a long time.
00:23:19.000 I suppose most people that are fans of our channel, members of our community, will be familiar with him.
00:23:24.000 But my understanding is that Bob Lazar was an independent engineer that was asked to
00:23:28.000 work on some recovered technology and had to sign all the usual stuff that you might
00:23:34.000 imagine and has subsequently gone on to speak at length.
00:23:38.000 There's a lot of, I've seen a very successful video between you and Rogan and Bob Lazar
00:23:44.000 talking about, is he legit, is he the real deal?
00:23:49.000 And I know that you believe he is and I believe he is.
00:23:53.000 I wonder how significant his contribution is to this conversation and how his contribution
00:23:58.000 alters with these recent spate of revelations.
00:24:01.000 So, let's talk about Bob Lazar, but I want to touch upon the first thing you said.
00:24:01.000 Sure.
00:24:05.000 You know, we're living in a data-rich environment, but we're, like, data poor in the way that we see it, we look at it.
00:24:12.000 The scientific community, even our friend Neil deGrasse Tyson, has made statements where we realize, oh man, they really got to catch up.
00:24:20.000 They're not exposed to the data.
00:24:23.000 I see Congress and Senate not having as good briefings As George Knapp and I do as journalists, and that's concerning.
00:24:30.000 That's real concerning.
00:24:31.000 So the first thing you talked about was, what's the intent?
00:24:34.000 You know, we an ant farm, you know, let's go real dark to real light, then we'll get to Bob Lazar.
00:24:39.000 The real dark is, look, man, when we got cattle, what do we do?
00:24:44.000 We treat them poorly from their perspective, or do we feed them, give them water, make sure they're healthy with antibiotics, but they're a commodity to us.
00:24:51.000 That's just the truth about, you know, meat industry here in the United States and beyond.
00:24:55.000 So the dark version is, oh, man, yeah, they're taking real good care of us because we're some sort of commodity.
00:25:02.000 Then the other side, the lighter side is, hey man, they've been here a long time.
00:25:02.000 Right.
00:25:06.000 This is obviously some sort of reconnaissance program or some sort of thing where there is interest with human consciousness and these, you know, beings, these non-terrestrial beings that seem to build and operate these craft.
00:25:18.000 So it's kind of like pick your poison.
00:25:20.000 Who you are will really reflect in your answer, right?
00:25:24.000 It's like the evidence shows us that they've been here a long time.
00:25:27.000 But how you answer what you think the intent is, it's all speculation.
00:25:31.000 You know, we know UFOs are real.
00:25:32.000 We know they're made by somebody, you know, not from here. 0.95
00:25:35.000 But what they're doing here, it'll reveal more about us than it will about them.
00:25:39.000 Now, whatever that truth is, let's move on.
00:25:41.000 Bob Lazar.
00:25:43.000 For those of your audience who don't know who Bob Lazar is, I think the best way to learn about him is just watch the documentary I made on him, because I tried to humanize him.
00:25:51.000 Because he is a human, first of all.
00:25:52.000 And second of all, because people would dismiss what Bob Lazar said by attacking who he is, by attacking his persona, his individualism.
00:26:03.000 And that's a real mistake.
00:26:04.000 That's actually a very dangerous mistake when you can't separate the message from the messenger, what it is that we know from what it is that we think.
00:26:12.000 So Bob Lazar was tasked by the United States military in 1989 to reverse engineer a propulsion system that was non-terrestrial.
00:26:21.000 It was from a spaceship.
00:26:22.000 It was absolutely from a disc-style spaceship.
00:26:27.000 He called it the sport model.
00:26:28.000 He had cute little nicknames for all of them.
00:26:30.000 I have proved that he worked out at Area 51.
00:26:33.000 I have talked to other employees that saw him go there and get off the bus and drive down to S4, which is the name of the building where he worked in on these non-terrestrial technologies.
00:26:41.000 We had nine intact craft.
00:26:44.000 This is fact.
00:26:45.000 Whether people want to believe it or not, it doesn't change the fact.
00:26:49.000 You gotta wrap your head around that reality ain't what it used to be.
00:26:52.000 We now know it's true.
00:26:53.000 So Bob Lazar is kind of like a whistleblower, except he did so because he was fearful for his life.
00:26:59.000 Because at the time, and I see it up to this day, by the way.
00:27:02.000 I see it up to this day.
00:27:05.000 Witnesses that have come forward to me are threatened.
00:27:08.000 And they are threatened by people that are within special groups within government.
00:27:13.000 And we're not standing for that anymore.
00:27:15.000 That's why Congress and Senate did this Whistleblower Protection Act. 0.87
00:27:19.000 So how significant is Bob Lazar?
00:27:21.000 And how does it relate to what we're seeing in the news?
00:27:23.000 Bob Lazar is probably the most central significant person when it comes to the public knowing about our government, our military, reverse engineering, alien spaceship From other worlds.
00:27:35.000 That's Bob Lazar.
00:27:37.000 That's what he did.
00:27:38.000 And George Knapp brought him forward.
00:27:39.000 Now, today, what we're seeing, man, George Knapp and I said, very beginning, when you see these shootdowns, the United States pops a balloon with a missile, by the way, they didn't even hit its center, it was down to the right.
00:27:52.000 Whatever.
00:27:52.000 When you see that on national TV, what are you really seeing?
00:27:56.000 Those balloons have been around forever.
00:27:58.000 If we really cared about secrecy within the United States, so no exploitation from China, doing this kind of reconnaissance, we would worry about our cell phones much more than we're worrying about a floating balloon that we shoot with a missile on national television.
00:28:11.000 And then, and then, we get all these other shoot downs.
00:28:15.000 Oh, can't find the debris.
00:28:16.000 I'll just tell you, these are not UFOs.
00:28:18.000 These are balloons, and this is all theatre.
00:28:21.000 Everything you're seeing from the mass media is absolute theatre, other than when I do an interview with knowledge on, like, CNN or something, because I fight for that.
00:28:32.000 I make sure the truth is being brought out.
00:28:34.000 So, Bob Lazar gave us the basics.
00:28:37.000 And then from there now, you're seeing this kind of sleight-of-hand thing going on the surface level.
00:28:43.000 But underneath the surface, there are people very interested to hear from people like Bob Lazar, who know the names of the programs, who had hands-on experience, and who actually worked on these things unsuccessfully, because we don't have the material science.
00:28:57.000 But that is also happening in tandem right now, is good people, patriotic people, are trying to find out, what's up with UFOs?
00:29:06.000 What do you think the spiritual connotations of this are?
00:29:10.000 I remember one aspect of stories about these encounters, and sometimes even contemplation of these encounters, sometimes even with like military personnel that have had experiences, is the kind of return of awe and wonder, this kind of deep connection we have with celestial bodies, You know, Ezekiel's wheel, Jacob's ladder, the idea that from the sky will come redemption, that from the sky will come the rapture, that the sky is the place from which the prophets descend to us.
00:29:47.000 What do you think about this aspect of this story that is, well, even when you talk about the propulsion systems of these craft, which you say is verifiable, and now there's certainly a lot more significant evidence than there ever has been, we are talking literally about ideas that are beyond materialism.
00:30:05.000 They still may be measurable, but we're talking about energetic forces that defy our understanding of how material reality operates.
00:30:17.000 So what do you feel the connotations of this are, spiritually?
00:30:23.000 And do you feel that this is something that will become more relevant as we contemplate this subject?
00:30:29.000 Or do you think it will become, like many things do, about resources and power?
00:30:34.000 Yeah, we have to defend against things that are spiritual in nature, you know, becoming twisted.
00:30:39.000 You know, they always become twisted because of, you know, greed and shame and all sorts of things that humans come along with whenever we're born, right?
00:30:46.000 So here's the deal, man.
00:30:48.000 When you say something is spiritual, for me, that's very physical.
00:30:52.000 So the idea of spirituality, just personally to me, it's got to be something that we can consistently tap into.
00:31:00.000 So the idea that we're part of this bigger ecosystem is a deeply spiritual idea for me.
00:31:06.000 When I look up to the stars and I see how vast the universe is, I don't feel disconnected.
00:31:12.000 I feel more connected.
00:31:13.000 All of a sudden, I'm getting goosebumps, man.
00:31:15.000 All of a sudden, I realize that Reality is not what we thought.
00:31:21.000 There's a kind of interconnectedness that we have with the stars themselves, with the molecules and the elements that have formed us.
00:31:29.000 And I look out there and I think, well, of course there's advanced intelligent life that has survived and gotten along.
00:31:34.000 You've got to get along to survive.
00:31:36.000 Obviously, 150 years of technological innovation, we can already blow up the Earth.
00:31:40.000 So you've got to get along to survive.
00:31:42.000 And the fact that that has happened, And the fact that there is another intelligence visiting here, if not one, I mean many, durationally, tells me that there is something precious.
00:31:53.000 There's something precious about human consciousness.
00:31:57.000 There's something precious about the physicality of existing in a Goldilocks planet, spinning and orbiting through the cosmos, which is Earth, Sol 3, the third planet from the Sun, right?
00:32:09.000 And that there are so many more of those.
00:32:11.000 So when you say spiritually, for me, It's a very physical man.
00:32:15.000 It's what I'm connected to.
00:32:16.000 It's what you're connected to.
00:32:18.000 What all connects us, which is that there is something greater and bigger and just absolutely pure creation and curiosity and exploration.
00:32:29.000 That is all there.
00:32:30.000 I always make the joke, you know, my curiosity has been weaponized, but it's true.
00:32:36.000 I can't be a passive consumer of trying to be on the frontier of knowledge.
00:32:42.000 I'm not a good mathematician.
00:32:44.000 I'm really, you know, not that great at geography.
00:32:47.000 But one thing that I am good at is continuously asking questions because I'm a curious person.
00:32:53.000 So the spiritual implications for me is that there is an unlimited amount to earn in a limited amount of time.
00:33:01.000 Our lifespans are this big, man.
00:33:03.000 This big.
00:33:04.000 So what can we do in that time to grow and learn and evolve and change the way that we interact with the world?
00:33:11.000 That is a spiritual concept and that is how it transforms people.
00:33:15.000 When they see something not of this world, when they personally encounter something that is so far beyond the box they realize there is no box, It forever changes the way that they interact with the rest of humanity.
00:33:29.000 We're getting a lot of love in our locals community.
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00:33:33.000 Not you, Jeremy.
00:33:33.000 You're here contributing to the show directly.
00:33:35.000 Although you could, because we do a lot of great content there.
00:33:38.000 A weekly show, my stand-up special, so much stuff on there.
00:33:41.000 SensitiveHeart25 says, Hey Russell and Jeremy, I love the spiritual part of this conversation.
00:33:46.000 I feel in awe of heavenly bodies and I feel connected to them.
00:33:49.000 So people are enjoying the sort of scope and scale of this conversation.
00:33:52.000 says, love thy neighbors from hell. Claude says, we're being pushed to evolve. Peace,
00:33:58.000 love and light, we're connected to stars and planets.
00:34:01.000 Blessed old bird, from dust we came and to dust we shall return. Some beautiful images.
00:34:06.000 Everything is physical, says Rachel Column and spirits are energy that is physical. So people
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00:34:40.000 Which is currently being discussed primarily in economic terms, somewhat in ideological terms, because the AI is obviously being programmed by someone.
00:34:48.000 It's also being discussed in geopolitical terms, like who masters AI technology, like you said about these gravitational propulsion devices, will have a significant advantage as we move forward.
00:35:02.000 I wonder what you think about the advances in AI and whether or not these are the kind of technologies that have had an influence from non-terrestrial sources.
00:35:12.000 Yeah, it's really quite possible if you look at the evolution of our science and also the phenomenon and our connectivity to the UFO phenomenon.
00:35:20.000 But just look at it this way, from my perspective, when AI becomes indistinguishable from actual sentient intelligence, what is sentient intelligence?
00:35:30.000 So we get to the point where there's this AI, artificial intelligence, that is Indistinguishable from sentient intelligence.
00:35:38.000 So who are we to judge?
00:35:40.000 So once you get there to that point, then you start looking at, well, can biology itself, the computer mechanism of zeros and ones that make up our DNA and RNA and that sort of thing, If that merges programmably with this artificial intelligence, which we're already seeing happen, by the way, once that merges where the biological connects with this sort of artificial intelligence or programming and we can program this intelligence into biology, then you get what people speculate about like these alien greys or something like this, that these are sentient
00:36:19.000 biological organisms, but are actually artificial intelligence in bed.
00:36:25.000 So that's the idea here, is that in the future, if UFOs, maybe they represent us from the future.
00:36:31.000 I don't know.
00:36:32.000 So here's the deal.
00:36:34.000 If we can then merge that, and we have that absolute point of merging, then that's what people say that some of these entities that operate these craft, that they are connected to the craft themselves.
00:36:44.000 So basically the car keys is your DNA.
00:36:48.000 That's part of what's said, and what's also said, and I don't know this to be true by any means, but this is just what's said, and you're asking.
00:36:55.000 Is it these kind of artificial cyborg intelligence, biological yet machine-like through their DNA?
00:37:03.000 That these beings, that they were created.
00:37:06.000 So their creator is actually another physical being.
00:37:10.000 So if that is true, and I don't know, but if that were to be true, it would be really interesting to see how humanity might be sparked, right?
00:37:20.000 Remember the movie Prometheus and how there's a seeding, it's called directed panspermia.
00:37:25.000 The idea that there's something from an external influence that comes in and seeds DNA.
00:37:30.000 And if you look at DNA and the way that it is created, we can absolutely replicate it.
00:37:35.000 We can actually build beings, which is so bizarre.
00:37:40.000 We can already do that.
00:37:41.000 So, you know, if you think about it that way, everybody can become a creator, a creator of life.
00:37:47.000 So if that answers your question, it's really bizarre.
00:37:51.000 Terence McKenna used to speculate that there was something peculiar about mathematics being a kind of language of nature, that why ought there be observable grammar and templates in the natural world?
00:38:04.000 Much of Buckminster Fuller's work focused on the fractal patterns that emerge out of nature.
00:38:10.000 That it's an expression of a kind of central intelligence.
00:38:14.000 I'm fascinated when you talk about the various ways, and I know you're just speculating for fun because it's the type of conversation we're having, the various directions that we could go in when speculating on this subject.
00:38:25.000 Is it future us's?
00:38:27.000 There's a vast mythology around this subject, which of course is now becoming a little more refined as we deal with the The scientific aspect of it and the evidence-based aspect of it, which is obviously significant because the kind of space we operate in, I mean, cultural space, means that those are the things that are going to have value.
00:38:44.000 What do you think, though, of the idea that there are various species?
00:38:50.000 I liked reading about, like, you know, greys, and what about also, mate, the more...
00:38:56.000 In the good old days of conspiracy theory, which we have to be extraordinarily cautious around, there was this idea that there were reptilian interdimensional beings that were operating behind, for example, the British royal family, shapeshifting and all that kind of stuff.
00:39:11.000 I know this is not your area of expertise in journalism, that you focus much more on what is empirically demonstrably true, and I respect that, but As a passionate man on this subject, have you looked into that kind of stuff, and what are some of the more fascinating aspects of that kind of mythology?
00:39:28.000 And let's call it a mythology to represent it might demonstrate true emotions, but it's certainly not empirically true at this point.
00:39:36.000 Right.
00:39:36.000 So I mean, that base question is, you know, are we being visited by a non-human intelligence?
00:39:41.000 And, you know, but are they among us?
00:39:43.000 And really famously, a man named Robert Bigelow from Bigelow Aerospace, who's put more private money into researching the UFO programs than anybody else.
00:39:54.000 He actually helped fund some of these UFO programs and worked with the Defense Intelligence Agency.
00:39:59.000 So this is a guy that knows a lot.
00:40:01.000 And he went on 60 Minutes and he very famously said, You don't gotta look far, basically, for these beings.
00:40:10.000 They're right under your nose.
00:40:11.000 And he kind of, like, laughs a little bit.
00:40:13.000 Well, that's coming from a guy who actually has direct knowledge about a lot of this stuff, so it wouldn't surprise me if there was some sort of...
00:40:23.000 Non-terrestrial being that is actually here living among us.
00:40:26.000 Like, it wouldn't surprise me.
00:40:27.000 Again, this is speculation.
00:40:29.000 No idea.
00:40:29.000 You're very gracious in saying, yeah, I'm a nuts and bolts person.
00:40:33.000 My family thinks I'm fucking nuts, but I am nuts and bolts and that I try to focus on the things that I can really prove because I want to know the truth. 0.88
00:40:40.000 I could speculate all day until I have evidence. 0.98
00:40:43.000 With that said, it is really fun to think about this.
00:40:46.000 So if there are other types of beings, let's go through them.
00:40:50.000 So you could have extraterrestrial, you know, not here, you know, from planet Earth.
00:40:55.000 You could have extra-temporal, not here from our time.
00:41:00.000 You could have extra-dimensional.
00:41:02.000 From another dimension that is simply sitting right on top and imperceivable to us at most times.
00:41:08.000 I don't really know what dimensions mean.
00:41:09.000 Our good buddy Joe Rogan, you know, said something about 40 something dimensions.
00:41:12.000 I said, I can't even live in this one.
00:41:13.000 I don't know what that means.
00:41:15.000 I'm not smart enough.
00:41:16.000 I haven't looked down that path, but it's a cool idea.
00:41:19.000 One of my favorite concepts or theories, because this comes from my personal understanding, I called it the techno-terrestrial.
00:41:30.000 The evidence suggests to me, and that's not a popular term, but I'm going to make it popular, the techno-terrestrial, the idea that it is possible that this is a program, a galactic program, a cosmos Program an idea that we can seed DNA and intelligence with technology to different places that could inhabit sentient intelligent biological life.
00:41:55.000 So I call it techno terrestrial with the idea that technology is exactly what's being seated and the idea that that technology that is being seated within propel those who were seated to develop technology and continue to learn how to build it.
00:42:12.000 Beings and then go and become a spacefaring civilization and seed it again. 0.95
00:42:18.000 And to me, this is one of the greatest population programs to maintain and build the ecosystem of consciousness within our cosmos.
00:42:27.000 If this pet theory, which I have no idea, you know, just kind of made it up one day, but from the evidence that I've seen.
00:42:34.000 I believe at this point it's possible, just as extraterrestrial as possible, just as extra-temporal as possible, just as extra-dimensional as possible, just as it is possible that these are civilizations that have been hidden here on Earth for a long time, longer than modern humanity.
00:42:50.000 That it's possible that this is a techno-terrestrial that we're dealing with.
00:42:54.000 A large program to seed the cosmos with consciousness.
00:43:00.000 And that's just my favorite theory.
00:43:03.000 No idea, but it feels good to me.
00:43:05.000 When you talk in depth about the vastness of the spectrum of possible ideas, I'm always moved to think how ridiculous our globalised tribal conflicts are, because there are so many ways to look at reality that exaggerated and amplified versions of The primal primate conflict just seems absurd and ridiculous.
00:43:34.000 A lot of people in our chat, Jeremy, got a lot of love for you, I've got to say.
00:43:38.000 Oh wow!
00:43:39.000 And people want to know what's in that safe as well.
00:43:42.000 What's in that safe?
00:43:44.000 What's in?
00:43:46.000 Behind you, there's a safe.
00:43:48.000 What do you mean?
00:43:50.000 It's a hologram!
00:43:51.000 It's a hologram, I tell you.
00:43:52.000 I know what you're talking about.
00:43:54.000 That's CIA information.
00:43:56.000 Controlled opposition!
00:43:59.000 That's one of our favourite buzzwords.
00:44:01.000 Mate, another one of the big blockbusters in the UFO heritage is the Roswell case.
00:44:10.000 With all of this new information and stuff about weather balloons being in the news right now, how do we reframe one of the great cultural artefacts of the history of this subject The case of Roswell, where some people say there was an alien autopsy, where some people say that it was definitely a UFO, where some people say that even the ground there is showing signs that it's interacted with, you know, like a kind of gravitational propulsion system such as you described.
00:44:40.000 How do you reframe those divisive stories that some people think are definite proof and other people have always thought were hocus-pocus in light of ongoing and new evidence?
00:44:51.000 And even the way that the media at the time reported it and the kind of psyops around it.
00:44:55.000 How do you reframe something like Roswell, one of the classics?
00:44:59.000 Yeah, so just from your question, I know that you have a lot of knowledge on it, where maybe a lot of people don't.
00:45:04.000 So just to frame it to begin with, look, there was a crash.
00:45:07.000 There was actually two crashes of something in Roswell, New Mexico, back in the 40s.
00:45:12.000 And this was a time when UFOs were abuzz in the news.
00:45:15.000 This was a time when we were asking serious questions about the UFO phenomenon.
00:45:20.000 You know, we had a general come forward on television and talk about the flyovers of Washington, D.C.
00:45:26.000 in 1952.
00:45:27.000 I mean, for that decade or two decades, there was so much information.
00:45:31.000 So this Roswell, New Mexico, it was a crash and it was a crash of a vehicle that appeared to be a non-terrestrial origin.
00:45:37.000 And there were physical beings on this and they were sequestered and taken away.
00:45:42.000 And some of that material was brought into private industry in order to deflect The public's ability to find out about it, because when something's in private industry with oversight by government, you can't do what we call FOIA or Freedom of Information Act requests.
00:45:57.000 So all of that gets tucked away.
00:45:59.000 Can't learn about it.
00:46:00.000 Can't know.
00:46:01.000 But all of a sudden there was a break and people started saying, hey.
00:46:04.000 Something happened here.
00:46:05.000 Because remember, initially, like you stated, it was said, you know, we finally got one of these discs, one of these flying saucers.
00:46:11.000 That was from our military.
00:46:13.000 That was an official stance.
00:46:14.000 It was a press release.
00:46:15.000 And they immediately came back and retracted it the next day.
00:46:18.000 However, the guy that originally put out the press release, he came out for it later and said, yeah, they showed me, you know, this picture with this tinfoil.
00:46:27.000 He's like, that's not what it was.
00:46:29.000 That's not at all what it was, and they were having me lie to the American public.
00:46:32.000 So, you got somebody who's got everything to lose, nothing to win, and then you start getting hundreds and hundreds of witnesses.
00:46:39.000 So, the Roswell, New Mexico crash of a UFO is real, and that has been something that has been used to try to create the laugh factor, the giggle factory, to try to make people uncomfortable with understanding and learning this idea.
00:46:53.000 The whole idea conspiracy theory was embedded into our culture, By a government agency, this is something you can track and trace and learn the history of.
00:47:02.000 It's just like reading a history book, but it's more fun.
00:47:05.000 So look, man, that's the stigma.
00:47:07.000 It was created surrounding Roswell because they're like, catch and release.
00:47:11.000 It's true.
00:47:12.000 Wait a second.
00:47:12.000 We can't say that until we figure out what's going on.
00:47:15.000 How do we reframe that?
00:47:17.000 Well, look, just a couple weeks ago, George Napanai brought someone forward who has never come forward before.
00:47:23.000 He was the head of the UAP, Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, task force.
00:47:28.000 His name was Jay Stratton.
00:47:30.000 This is the guy that actually formed it like a business within our government, and he believes in transparency.
00:47:37.000 And one of the things he said, which people might have missed, Is he says, we don't want to make the same mistakes that we did with Project Blue Book, which, by the way, was a complete whitewash of the truth.
00:47:48.000 They were there to dismiss UFOs and in quotes, right, to demystify the UFO topic to the American public.
00:47:55.000 That was their goal.
00:47:56.000 So they made a mistake.
00:47:57.000 So he said, we don't want to make the same mistakes as we did with Project Blue Book, meaning those were lies.
00:48:03.000 And he says, we also don't want to make the mistake like we did in Roswell.
00:48:07.000 And what he's saying is the lies to the American public.
00:48:11.000 So how do we reframe it?
00:48:12.000 Well, listen to people that are telling you the truth and have come forward just recently telling you you should reframe it.
00:48:18.000 Because what's fascinating is we're back to where we started to a degree.
00:48:22.000 That because of the way this information has reached us, certainly in the modern age, we have a natural skepticism about it.
00:48:30.000 We've been messed with.
00:48:32.000 It's always been part of our culture to contemplate beings from another realm, and I like the way you broke down the potential ways you could look at that.
00:48:41.000 Folklore is full of Fairies and entities and magical beings and of course we've come to regard mythology as something to be dismissive of.
00:48:52.000 In this post-enlightenment age there has been the assumption that humankind is the apex of all being, that our stories of history are complete, that our philosophies are total, that really what we're doing now is just managing the way we exist on this planet with no new visions, no new dreams.
00:49:10.000 And as there are So many apocalyptic stories that dominate the news cycle at the moment from potential Armageddon between the United States and the proxy war with Russia, with the pandemic and the way that it was used to introduce more surveillance, more control,
00:49:26.000 Induced a wealth transfer.
00:49:28.000 A story like this one I think has a great deal of potency and it's interesting that we can see that in the modern age our attitudes around it have changed and that we are cynical about it too.
00:49:39.000 If you charted from Roswell to the more recent balloon sightings, look at how the way that this story has been reported has altered our ability to appreciate what the deeper connotations of Non-terrestrial life are.
00:49:55.000 Jeremy, thank you so much for your incredible work on this subject, for disseminating these ideas, for being rigorous about the science and the limitations of the knowledge, while not being mean about speculation and conjecture on spirituality, because all of those things are enjoyable and fun, and we have to be able to imagine and speculate to enjoy it.
00:50:17.000 So I'm very grateful to you for the work that you do and for your friendship.
00:50:20.000 Thank you, Jeremy.
00:50:21.000 Yeah, thank you for your friendship and thanks for talking about this.
00:50:23.000 I just want to say, you know, you said it at the beginning here, but at the end of all of our exploring, we're going to arrive right back where we started.
00:50:30.000 That's something I think T.S.
00:50:31.000 Eliot said, and it is true with this. 0.99
00:50:33.000 When we look back at mythology and folklore, we have to look at it through a scientific lens now.
00:50:37.000 Consensus reality is about to catch up With actual reality and that or took to a level and that is what I'm most excited about, you know, so thank you for your show and for getting, you know, your audience to engage this topic.
00:50:51.000 It is one of the greatest mysteries of our time and it might just be one of the most important spiritually that we could ever ever learn about.
00:50:59.000 Jeremy Corbell, thank you.
00:51:01.000 You can find Jeremy's podcast by going to weaponizedpodcast.com.
00:51:05.000 We're going to be off now for the next few weeks.
00:51:07.000 I'm actually going to be venturing into a spacecraft myself and limiting and visiting new dimensions.
00:51:14.000 Potentially, as long as the deal gets done, I may yet renege on the entire venture.
00:51:20.000 We'll still be dropping fresh presentations, meditations and more.
00:51:24.000 You're going to be seeing me All being well.
00:51:26.000 On Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Bill Maher, Ben Shapiro.
00:51:30.000 Pre-sale of my stand-up special goes live next week.
00:51:33.000 See me do live stand-up in the US on March 2nd.
00:51:36.000 I'm going to be in Los Angeles at the Vermont Theatre.
00:51:38.000 On March 6th, I'm going to be in Clearwater at the Bilheimer Capital Theatre.
00:51:42.000 Tickets are at RussellBrand.com.
00:51:44.000 See you in a couple of weeks.
00:51:45.000 Not for more of the same, but for more of the different.
00:51:48.000 From the 13th, we'll be back with a bigger, more glorious, more powerful show.
00:51:53.000 Until then, stay free.