Is Trump s approval rating increasing as he delivers on his popular mandate? Is the Democratic Party even for something other than Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders? Or are they just not good enough anymore? And what s the point of a Democratic Party?
00:02:40.000Bump is Trump's popularity increasing as he delivers on his popular mandate.
00:02:45.000Additionally, I'll be talking to Jeremy Corbell, UFO expert, even though that's a term he rejects, about his recent appearance in Congress, his new documentary, excuse me, UFO Revolution, as well as his podcast, Weaponized.
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00:05:38.000This is a very different Donald Trump.
00:05:39.000He's leading a very different administration in the way he's attacking things, and the American public is very much more in line with him than they were at any point during his entire first term.
00:05:49.000One, I would say, correction, this is not a very different Donald Trump.
00:05:54.000This is a very different Donald Trump as being viewed by voters in this moment.
00:05:58.000In the way he's going about things with Susan Wiles leading things, I think he is, you know, going at things in a much less disorganized fashion, much more organized.
00:06:09.000What voter out there can look at the Democratic Party at this moment in time and say there's a voice for us, somebody that speaks for us, that goes up on Capitol Hill and fights the fights that we want them fighting on our behalf?
00:06:31.000So, it was so interesting to me that Donald Trump's first net approval rating of his second term is higher than his entire first term, and I was interested.
00:06:39.000She's doing this with too much intensity there.
00:06:41.000This facial expression, you can do it for a bit, like a guy like that.
00:06:45.000That's disapproval to the side, where she's keeping her hand in her pocket.
00:06:48.000But there's a point where you're doing that so much that you've actually turned into the elephant man.
00:07:53.000Donald Trump's is the first guy ever whose net approval rating in the first month of his second term is higher than any rating that he had as an entire first term, Kate Baldwin.
00:09:27.000So then you have to say, I don't agree with democracy.
00:09:29.000And then you're in real trouble if the name of your party rhymes with democracy, or at least borrows heavily from the same etymological root as the word democracy.
00:09:39.000Because that is obviously what people voted for.
00:09:42.000And then whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant, because what you've said is you want to live in a country where consensus is derived from a mandate from the people.
00:09:51.000And if you don't believe that, if you're like, no, actually, what I want is I want to tell people what to do.
00:10:08.000Because the main thing you claim about Trump, of course, is that he's tyrannical.
00:10:12.000But I don't know that that's true, actually, because he's just said, the only stuff that worries me that Trump's doing is the AI mRNA stuff.
00:10:25.000Can you explain that to me very slowly?
00:10:27.000And I suppose people say, oh, it's entrepreneurial and it's going to be brilliant for the economy and stuff.
00:10:30.000And I'm like, what about mRNA cancer vaccines?
00:10:32.000If I do, if we are to explore that realm, I don't know if I want it in the hands of the very people that have caused these problems.
00:10:39.000And I hope that RFK and all those people at the HHS are going to be able to operate as guardrails against the excesses of a pharmaceutical industry that has too much power and influence with legislators and has become sort of one of the arms of rampant corporatism along with military industrial complex and the censorship industrial complex that are able to augur mass mass control.
00:11:07.000Early on, immediately after the election, I was like, hey, you know, we have a choice.
00:11:12.000You know, we can freak out and follow every other thing around, you know, like a cat, you know, with a laser, you know, after he won.
00:11:19.000Sometimes I think that I have a kind of tangential and unusual mind.
00:11:24.000You know, I sort of thought, oh, that was a bit abstract, what you just said.
00:11:27.000Then I watched like John Fetterman, like who's just like a regular guy.
00:11:30.000I mean, just a senator in a hoodie is an extraordinary anachronism.
00:11:35.000On a show, like The View, which is homogenised, sanitised, commercialised information, and they say things like, you know, if you're going to be like a cat following a laser, I think everyone's actually really on a weird trip.
00:12:25.000You know, for me, there's things I'm going to agree with, I'm going to disagree with, but I'm in the business of finding wins for Pennsylvania and for the nation and engaging the president.
00:12:49.000And people, I guess, will be trying to look into the miasma and dirge of the post-election Democrat Party and say, who is likely to rise up to be the avatar of a renewed opposition to the current MAGA movement?
00:13:01.000And people will probably say someone like AOC, who has obvious appeal and following.
00:13:09.000Will the Democrat Party in its ongoing sanitary process remove...
00:13:15.000Even those somewhat popular figures in the same way that it extracted RFK and Sanders.
00:13:21.000Let me know in the comments in chat what you think about that, because it seems the Democrat Party belongs to a kind of, do I want to say heterodoxy, sort of like an entrenchant heritage system that means that only Obamas and Clintons and their acolytes can control that movement.
00:13:36.000And indeed, isn't that what has in some significant portion caused its collapse and decline?
00:13:50.000As we now know, Stephen A. Smith appearing on Bill Maher to tell us that the Democrat Party have completely lost direction.
00:13:58.000I've been on that show of Bill Maher several times and what you're doing is you're preaching to the choir.
00:14:03.000It's difficult to get anti-establishment information out on that show now because where Bill Maher would have once been seen as a somewhat renegade figure within institutional politics, as the Democrat Party became what they became, this sort of conduit for globalism, All of their media assets had to reposition themselves.
00:14:25.000What does Stephen Colbert represent now?
00:14:27.000Popular mainstream figures that are pro-Democrats and can be useful anti-establishment figures if what you've got in power is Cheney and Bush waging wild wars in Iraq.
00:14:41.000But now you have Biden and Kamala Harris and Obama.
00:14:44.000Once you've had that, you start to wonder, well, what is that perspective?
00:14:48.000That's part of the question we're asking, because we're not just saying what is the Democratic Party for, the political operation, but also the cultural phenomena that surrounds it.
00:14:58.000If you're like a Democrat Party YouTuber right now, like, say, Dave Pakman, what is your role now to sort of go, well, Trump's expelling people at an alarming rate.
00:15:37.000Because we're seeing the last vestiges of actual political power in countries like Canada and my own country, the UK, when it comes to...
00:15:43.000The centre-left neoliberal political operations, i.e.
00:15:46.000whatever that was that Trudeau was in charge of, and my thing over there with Keir Starmer, Labour, those things are entering now into total decline, presumably to be replaced by populist nationalist political movements, which is essentially what's happened in the United States and elsewhere.
00:16:03.000Can opposition even come from the left now?
00:16:05.000Or does political opposition to nationalism have to reconfigure now?
00:16:10.000Now that it can't be some repackaged, reframed globalist purview, which is what it's been for the, you know, basically for the entirety of the post-war era.
00:16:19.000Let's get back to our man on Bill Maher and see if he can give us a vision.
00:16:26.000For the Democrat Party, let's see what Bill Maher says and let's look at how the audience react to it.
00:17:18.000Because something that pertains, when you talk about the transgender community, for example, and you're talking about the issues that pertain to less than 1% of the population, the Democratic Party came across as if that was a priority, more so than the other issues.
00:17:31.000Now you're talking about childbirth, citizenship, and what have you.
00:17:34.000He knows that's not going to pass the mustard, but he knows that he made that promise.
00:17:38.000So when he shows up week one on Capitol Hill, he says, this is what we're going to do through an executive order, even though it's going to be shot.
00:17:49.000A lot of other things that he's gonna point to that he's gonna try to do, I kept my promise.
00:17:52.000Then you turn around and you look at the left and you say, what promises did you keep?
00:17:56.000Now you might know the answer to that.
00:17:57.000I'm certainly not questioning your knowledge about that at all.
00:18:00.000What I'm saying is, what resonated with the view, with the voter?
00:18:03.000What voter out there can look at the Democratic Party at this moment in time and say, there's a voice for us, somebody that speaks for us, that goes up on Capitol Hill and fights the fights that we want them fighting on our behalf.
00:18:24.000Well, you know what here he goes again means?
00:18:26.000He's doing what he said he was going to do.
00:18:29.000He promised you he was going to do these things, and he walked into office week one, and that's exactly what he's doing, and he's saying, y'all do something about it.
00:18:37.000And when you try to do something about it, he's going to say, look at them now.
00:18:39.000Now they're concerned about these issues.
00:18:41.000Were they talking about that during the campaign?
00:18:46.000It's like a reasonable description of the situation, I would say, but perhaps I'd go a little further in my prognosis.
00:18:53.000If the Democratic Party is ever to have meaning again, it's going to have to find some authority and integrity and some real purpose, because I think what happened over time is that that...
00:19:02.000The entire political movement, and I mean internationally, but gosh, perhaps I should just focus on your country for a moment, got captured by globalism in two forms, commercialism, corporatism, and the deep state institutions that serve the interests of, for example, the military-industrial complex, Big Pharma or Big Tech.
00:19:20.000And additionally, the migration component, which many people interpreted as a desire to dilute or otherwise threaten national populations beyond the explicit limits of legal.
00:19:33.000Now, the Democrat Party has no real ideology, I don't think, except the vestiges and leftovers of wokeism, which have been rejected en masse, not just by MAGA or MAHA supporters, but I would say by a significant percentage of people everywhere.
00:19:49.000And what remains, I would argue, could be satiated with a compassionate spiritual perspective, i.e.
00:20:09.000Balance the requirements for order, discipline and responsibility with an absolute requirement for compassion.
00:20:17.000What we had in the Democratic Party was this just horrible, empty, hollow bureaucracy, total lack of competence, vision, direction and real principles.
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00:23:47.000My guest for the show today is a phenomena in himself, although he can easily be identified by his beard.
00:23:56.000He looks like a hench-fit Santa Claus.
00:23:59.000It's Jeremy Corbell, an American contemporary artist, investigative filmmaker and ufologist.
00:24:03.000He's renowned for his documentaries exploring unexplained phenomena, advanced technologies and the intersection of science and mystery.
00:24:10.000Through his diverse career, Corbell continues to explore and document the boundaries between science, art and the unknown.
00:24:16.000You can check out his podcast Weaponized as well as his new three-part documentary UFO Revolution for free on Tubi or by clicking the link in the description.
00:25:43.000Jeremy took a 12-page document forward before a congressional hearing to bring clarity to the American people.
00:25:51.000Then, U.S. Representative Nancy Mace, in the hearing, stated that that congressional report was given to her by Michael Schellenberger.
00:25:59.000Worth mentioning here that I have a relationship with Michael, as in, like, you know, he comes on.
00:26:06.000Michael, years ago, probably two years ago, you know, I was already chatting with you, you were already doing stuff, you'd already been on Rogan with...
00:26:17.000But Michael, I had a chat with him probably around that wave of interest.
00:26:22.000And like he said, Michael, that he had heard from a separate source close to government that UFOs are real, that the government are in touch with extraterrestrials.
00:26:34.000In fact, the thing that I said in my message to you where I go, the thing that fascinates me most about all of this is...
00:26:41.000The thing that fascinates me most is the idea that there are living entities and that these living entities are in communication with governments and it impacts power and the control of information.
00:26:53.000It was Michael Schellenberger that told me that.
00:26:55.000He went so far as to say, like, he'd heard that there are, like, different nations and that they are integrated and, like, there's some that are, like, Nordics or whatever and come here and, like, they want to go shopping and stuff and it's like, what, what?
00:27:07.000But they're not on a total, we are from another day.
00:27:11.000They're not totally tuned in to, like, high frequencies of consciousness.
00:27:16.000Like when you hear Terence McKenna talking about extraterrestrials, you think, oh, these things might be extra-dimensional.
00:27:22.000Like, they're not even fully material.
00:27:25.000And, like, when you look in the book of Genesis, Jeremy, when it says that Adam and Eve were clothed in light, and after the fall, they get covered in skin.
00:27:40.000Might have been almost interdimensional before becoming material as a result of the fall and the disobedience or whatever.
00:27:48.000Anyway, so I've always known Michael Schellenberger to be a quite sort of up there level of understanding.
00:27:58.000Like, you know, he's a pretty serious journalist that will talk for ages about the LA fires and go, well, this department had this budget and da-da-da, like, you know, so he's not like...
00:28:06.000Anyone like you, Jeremy, who is particular to this field...
00:28:11.000You carry the weight of, oh, this isn't proper, it's still crazy.
00:28:16.000You know, even when you talk about these things now, there'll be a lot of people going, this is a distraction, it's a distraction, it's man-made stuff or whatever.
00:28:23.000But from your take on it, with your most recent, in your podcast, Weaponised, you're talking a lot about your new documentary, UFO Revolution, which is a three-part documentary that's available on Tubi for all of us.
00:28:38.000Let's post the link in the description to that now.
00:28:40.000You know, even if you've spent a lot of time with the elders in this field, I'm speaking to like Bob Lazar, and I know you've put decades into this, I know from people who know you outside of this, like Mark Mahoney or whatever, the genius artist and tattooist, he's like, him and his wife were like, we were so glad when this happened for Jeremy, because this dude has been on it for years and years, when no one would talk to him, he's been dedicated, you know, like you'll be, when you're an old dude, you'll be like...
00:29:07.000Jeremy Corbell was one of the first people that started to stick their neck out on this stuff.
00:29:12.000And being a BJJ guy, you know you don't stick their neck out.
00:29:15.000So, can I ask you, are we in a moment of real transition?
00:29:20.000Are we going to discover that non-human entities are involved?
00:29:25.000And I suppose as well, tell us in particular about how your documentary, UFO Revolution, covers the idea that we are potentially going to get a false flag event in the coming months.
00:30:38.000It's a battlefield when it comes to truth about UAP and UFO. Kind of, to your point, yeah, I started this accidentally.
00:30:47.000You know, Mark Mahoney, there's footage of him and me years ago, and I'm complaining to him.
00:30:53.000I'm like, I'm knocking on the doors, trying to get to George Knapp, trying to get to somebody that can start telling me what this is about.
00:31:22.000Are those distances so vast that they're not able to be traversed by an advanced technology from some culture that has had more time to develop?
00:32:36.000Yes, I mean, like you said very early in your brilliant answer, ontological shock, which is what I'm trying to rebrand this kombucha as right now.
00:32:45.000I think it's a good name for something, ontological shock.
00:32:48.000Like you said, even when you're just dealing with the physics, just the physics, like the idea that distance and space don't matter, once you start messing with the rules of reality, you're getting close.
00:32:58.000Obviously, by virtue of that fact, you're getting close to God.
00:33:04.000Now, one of the things you didn't cover there, because I gave you such a discursive and undisciplined initial question, was how this leads to a potential false flag event.
00:33:20.000Around UFOs and also whether or not you believe that in addition to the more engineering and physical miracles like the space-time stuff you covered in the first answer, potentially there's a sort of cosmic sociological and even cosmic political component to this if there are interdimensional or inter...
00:33:44.000...beings communicating with us, and also how that might lead to the false flag event, because presumably those things have got to be connected.
00:33:52.000Yeah, I mean, I don't think, you know, the visitors just like our kind of interdimensional Gucci, they're here.
00:33:59.000For some reason, and they might not be coming from outer space.
00:34:04.000We definitely see craft traversing in space, but that, you know, the origin might be what they call, I don't know, ultra-dimensional or ultra-terrestrial, right?
00:34:15.000They might be from here and just have been here longer than us.
00:34:18.000But to answer your question, in my series, in the last episode...
00:34:22.000Understand, the first two episodes, I show you what it takes to get into Congress, what's going on, all the meetings I had, bringing whistleblowers firsthand, whistleblowers in, in like secret meetings.
00:34:32.000You see new footage from Iraq of something that looks like the gimbal UAP, but this is different footage, and so it's interesting.
00:34:41.000But the false flag thing, I want to really clarify this because people chop up my words and completely change the origin of where I was going with that.
00:35:09.000In my series, what I said is that we are being whispered these dates that I fear that this is a false narrative to try to get people into the UFO community and kind of give a sense of, you know, private power to people.
00:35:25.000I was just saying that I don't buy it, that I know the origin of what I believe to be a mythology, that it's being told to people privately, not publicly by the government.
00:35:36.000Privately, that there's an event that's going to occur.
00:35:39.000Now look, Russell, I am wrong every day of my life.
00:35:57.000That people are being whispered this date and that this is not the reality.
00:36:03.000That it's being used and weaponized as a tool to encourage people to kind of participate on a level.
00:36:09.000I believe that the UAP narrative is now being shaped.
00:36:13.000And my joke about it, because the CIA has this memo that I've been exposed to that says, you know, part of the duty is to shape the emerging UAP narrative.
00:36:22.000And it's like, why do you got to shape anything?
00:36:26.000You've covered up all this shit about UFOs for decades.
00:36:29.000Now it looks like we're about to get some truth.
00:36:33.000I am highly concerned that to regain control, there are powers at force that want to shape how you understand the truth that UFOs are real.
00:36:43.000So I say all the king's horses and all the king's men.
00:36:47.000And you know, it usually says, can't put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
00:36:50.000What I say is shaping the UAP narrative again, because that's what I see as a journalist.
00:36:55.000I see people being manipulated and used in order to put out what I think is a false agenda.
00:37:03.000So you understand now why I mentioned that in the show, is I am calling out the quiet part.
00:37:08.000I am saying people are being told this.
00:37:10.000Journalists like me are being told this, and I don't buy it for a second.
00:37:16.000Yeah, I suppose it's because information of this magnitude has always had the potential to be disruptive.
00:37:26.000Generally, the tactic has been to discredit the information and control it in that way through discrediting it.
00:37:33.000Even if highly credible people emerged, like some of the people we've already listed in our conversation, they can easily be denounced because the information...
00:37:42.000It just seems so implausible and so novel and kind of stimulating.
00:37:47.000Now we're in a new phase, I suppose, because in every field, information has become diffuse, whistleblowers have become more common, the ability to spread information has sort of grown exponentially.
00:37:59.000So like with everything, new tactics are required, a different type of discrediting that includes maligning and more serious tactics even than that.
00:38:10.000So I suppose what you're saying is that there is a real-time attempt to ensure that the revelations around UAPs or UFOs or whatever terminology one prefers does not lead to a break in control.
00:38:30.000And in this regard, it's not really different from information during COVID or any story where the function of media, conventional media, At least, is to ensure that in partnership with the state and other powerful interests, they're able to ensure that information doesn't reach significant numbers of people that will, for want of a better term, cause mass civil disobedience.
00:38:55.000We've reached a point, I think, with these disclosures, say, under Trump with regard to JFK, where there's a sense that maybe that could happen.
00:39:06.000And what we'll learn, perhaps, is what the limits are of even a popular leader like Trump are.
00:39:12.000Is Trump able to go, here you go, there's the files on JFK, and we look at that and go, whoa, you can't ever trust them again!
00:39:21.000Or 9-11, whoa, we could never trust them!
00:39:38.000It seems to me that it has the potential for us to...
00:39:41.000If that information isn't controlled, some of the conclusions that might be drawn...
00:39:46.000I remember hearing Timothy Good talk about this, and I've mentioned this to you before, our spiritual conclusions, in a sense, circumvent and infuse all other matters, because it's a claim to absolute truth.
00:39:56.000Once you start making claims around absolute truth, which is what religion does, then you are the supreme power.
00:40:06.000Inverted commas, claim the supreme truth, collapse and implode with globalism being sort of faltering in the hands of neoliberalists and the cultural movement of wokeism faltering and being sort of reclaimed by nationalism and populism.
00:40:21.000But if there were a new, as you said, ontological shock where people en masse were starting to question, like...
00:40:28.000Interdimensionality and what Christ is and who Christ was and new ways of understanding his divine significance and absolute holiness, for example, just one potential take, then power is going to be significantly disrupted.
00:40:44.000So where you are, what an amazing time to have been making a documentary, because I was watching that stuff when it was happening anyway, you know, like when that documentary was being made about you, I was like, oh wow, this is cool!
00:40:57.000Jeremy Corbell's having a seat in Congress and stuff.
00:41:01.000I wonder how this is going to play out.
00:41:04.000So how it played out, you believe, is the system is magnificent at getting information, controlling it, managing it, reapportioning it, neutralizing it, diluting it, doing whatever it needs to do to ensure that that information doesn't disrupt the system itself.
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00:42:07.000For a limited time, you can get $10 off an annual plan using the promo code BRAND. I've seen it happening ever since, you know, these initial revelations.
00:42:34.000Look, the first hearing was a sneak attack.
00:42:37.000Getting David Grush there, getting Commander Fravor, Ryan Graves.
00:42:41.000When I was like calling David Grush and when I was calling Commander Fravor in particular, convincing them this is important, you know, put your head above the parapet.
00:42:52.000What I noticed this second hearing, it was very managed and it felt to me like a counterintelligence operation to find out specifically with me and George Knapp, we felt this.
00:43:04.000They were trying to find out who we knew.
00:43:49.000The actual term had been publicly acknowledged.
00:43:52.000So this is something I was working on because I believe this information, I vetted this information and so did George Knapp.
00:43:59.000So when I saw this kind of sleight of hand in Congress where they accredited Michael Schellenberger to it, which really saddened me that he didn't immediately say, wait a second, I'm a journalist, he's a journalist, we're both fighting the same fight.
00:44:13.000I was stoked to have another journalist that I thought would be...
00:44:16.000A man of his word and I thought would be truthful and not lie through omission.
00:44:23.000It was a very bizarre thing and I know you're friends with him and I can't explain to you why that happened other than I know that Congress even fabricated a fake page.
00:44:35.000I was asked to write an explanatory cover page.
00:44:38.000Of the submission that I was making sure was going through this process meticulously to put on congressional record.
00:44:46.000And at the end of the day, in the moment, at the dais, there's Nancy Mace, loud out, knowingly, blatantly lying about how she obtained and how they obtained, Congress obtained, that 12-page document which I submitted to Congress.
00:45:03.000When that happened, I realized it was much more than just, oh, someone else is turning in your homework.
00:45:09.000What I noticed is that they would go as far as to fabricate the congressional record, not just to erase my participation, but to try to create a different narrative to the American public of who can be trusted with whistleblowers.
00:45:24.000And it was this moment that really nailed it home because I had seen it happening, the shaping of the narrative.
00:45:32.000This is who you can trust and can go to.
00:45:34.000And unfortunately, they're not trustworthy.
00:45:46.000It is dangerous for people like whistleblowers to put their trust in people who are not deserving of your trust due to their actions.
00:45:54.000So Russell, you asked me, so I'm trying to tell you in plain English the way I see it.
00:46:00.000I've been fighting at this thing for a while.
00:46:02.000When people started losing control because of social media, because of whistleblowers coming forward, because of the deregulation of truthful information, there's a power grab going on right now.
00:46:14.000And that power grab has to do with technology, influence, finance.
00:46:24.000I just happened to see it firsthand and I'm calling bullshit.
00:46:29.000What revelation or revelations are you willing to make that others wouldn't be willing to make that justifies them extracting you and delegitimizing your contribution?
00:46:45.000What do you imagine that line to be or can you prove what that line is?
00:46:50.000Yeah, I mean, so clearly it's a lot about my relationship to whistleblowers and firsthand people that come to me and George Knapp and we document their experiences, bringing people forward.
00:47:00.000If I can be trusted with the fact that I... Go ahead, yeah.
00:47:04.000Are they generally primarily military or people in aeronautical stuff?
00:47:10.000So it's mostly about hardware and tech.
00:47:26.000So by definition, the idea of a whistleblower is a government employee in the way that I work with this.
00:47:31.000So I'll say government employees who have had exposure to the legacy architecture, the legacy programs, reverse engineering, actually have physically worked on some of the craft themselves.
00:47:43.000So I think that, you know, why I'm dangerous to some of this, why...
00:47:47.000They played it like George and I were going to testify and asked, what assets do we have to bring in?
00:47:52.000If you look at my past, I have released some of the...
00:47:56.000You know, or most of the footage of military film UAP, designated by UAP. So I think that's a threat to the control system and to the narrative if I continue doing such with George Knapp.
00:48:08.000So what is it that I could bring to the table?
00:49:15.000You say that Michael Schellenberger wouldn't say.
00:49:20.000That's the only reason to delegitimize you while simultaneously legitimizing Michael.
00:49:28.000Like, I would have to, so, and I feel like, you know, this is not based on anything other than my sort of guesses, that Michael Schellenberger would be a person that would probably go quite far with stuff, I would figure.
00:50:55.000So, again, I want to take this away from journalists competing and journalists having these issues.
00:51:02.000I think the more fundamental issue here...
00:51:06.000Unless you want to keep talking about it, I think, you know, I think kind of moving it away from that, we're all kind of in this together, Russell, and everybody has a role to play.
00:51:17.000I think that we have to be honest, especially in journalism.
00:51:53.000I can only guess that what I told them and showed them that I could provide under oath to the American public is something they didn't want out.
00:52:04.000And that most likely included really good footage of UAP, filmed by our military.
00:52:11.000So you obviously know what the contents of the missing and later fabricated...
00:52:23.000It was just they asked me to write a cover page, an explanatory page to why I was submitting this rather than have the author there submitting it.
00:52:38.000So I wrote in there, look, I'm willing to spill all the beans I have under oath in that setting with protections, with whistleblower protections.
00:52:45.000I'm willing to do that as a journalist.
00:52:47.000So it's not like the page itself was of the highest of value, other than it would obtain a custody issue, and it told them why this whistleblower wasn't there by face on their own, which is really important.
00:53:01.000It's sad that there were fear tactics.
00:53:04.000Put on individuals who just want to kind of spill the beans about the nature of reality.
00:53:08.000I think all of us that are following the UFO and UAP phenomena and how it's reported on are in some way struggling to keep track.
00:53:16.000Of the various strands and what the intention behind these strands might be.
00:53:22.000In the lead up to Christmas and the New Year, the holiday season, it wasn't just festival lights that festooned the skies.
00:53:35.000I was looking at my social media feed and then even local news items where the governor of New Jersey was called up.
00:53:46.000Colliding worlds that I was being asked to sort of hold.
00:53:49.000Like, as someone that grew up on UFO literature, Eric Von Daniken, Timothy Good, George Knapp, you know, the names with which you are so familiar.
00:54:04.000It's a bit like how I feel sometimes when I just see, like, regular news programs say, COVID was made in a lab.
00:54:12.000As you've always known, if you watch the right media, now what I feel is, how are we not going to experience in the coming months, shock after shock, when it comes to our ontological perspective, because...
00:54:29.000If we're going to have to deal with, OK, there's really advanced hardware, there's reverse engineering, there's the potential for massively increased military capacity and therefore warfare, there's the likelihood that all of the global superpowers, you know, let's just say for simplicity, the United States, China and Russia, rather than whatever bureaucratic...
00:54:51.000Insidious interests might be puppeting those nations.
00:54:54.000Like, that all of those have got relationships with extraterrestrial powers, and that the tech...
00:55:01.000At some point, and I don't know how relevant the culture of extraterrestrials is, at some point we're going to have to ask, are they interdimensional?
00:55:12.000What is the origin and how does this impact our understanding of ourselves as human beings?
00:55:18.000And the very deepest questions that we ask.
00:55:20.000The rate of change is what's changed most of all.
00:55:23.000Every single week or day, the rug is tugged from under us.
00:55:28.000I was saying on one of our shows earlier this week, If you look at an ex for like 10 minutes, he's like, whoa, my God, fires, fighting, death, madness.
00:55:45.000And all of the variations of X. I wonder if...
00:55:50.000Now, here's a question for you, Jeremy.
00:55:52.000It's likely that with now the levers of power being in hands, not only of populists and nationalists like Trump elected on a significant mandate, but...
00:56:05.000Interesting and somewhat anomalous figures like RFK, the new head of the HHS, and some of his appointments that he's made there.
00:56:12.000This means that we've got an unusual, I might say, in inverted commas, type of political power at the head of the United States of America.
00:56:25.000It's going to answer a lot of questions about what happens if you disrupt this new world order.
00:56:30.000Have we put a stick in the spokes of this sort of globalist project that appeared to be unfolding under the auspices of the neoliberal left and wokeism?
00:56:39.000And if now we're suddenly going to be inundated with big questions like, are UFOs real?
00:56:45.000Is it possible that UFOs will be to Trump's 2025 presidency what COVID was to Trump's 2016-17 presidency, i.e.
00:57:06.000Demand a kind of reframing of the currently presumed political trajectory, which, if I can be reductive, would be the rise of nationalism across the world, inspired by the Magamaha movement, a kind of reformation of globalism, and a kind of new lexicon emerging out of that, and an attempt to sort of garner some popular appeal when they seem to have imploded dreadfully internationally.
00:57:29.000What new sudden notions are we going to be expected to incorporate if...
00:57:34.000UAPs and UFOs is to this presidency what COVID was to the last.
00:57:40.000Yeah, like an intercosmological issue or whatever you said.
00:57:48.000Well, first of all, a lot of people have great faith that in this new administration, we do have a shot at shaking shit up, at changing stuff.
00:57:57.000You know, I see that optimism, which is very good.
00:58:35.000The FAA told us that everything everybody's been seeing, that that was just Our government assets, surveying, and hobbyists.
00:58:45.000Now that's a problem because all the hope that people had, I know for a fact that is not true.
00:58:51.000I talk with people in critical infrastructure who reach out to me and tell me the FAA has no idea.
00:58:59.000There's actually communications between the FAA and these critical infrastructures being like these UFOs that are above our structures, our energy structures right now, they've been loitering for like seven hours.
01:00:41.000The crash retrieval side of it, I don't like to think of these extraterrestrials as, like, being goofballs up there, like, they're crashing and, like, they're just us, like, in a few years.
01:00:51.000I want them to be real kind of, like...
01:01:08.000And as a new Christian, I'm also thinking, well, how does this relate to Scripture?
01:01:12.000And as we've discussed before and as I continually bring up, whether it's Jacob's ladder or Ezekiel's wheel or the flaming sword at the gate of the Garden of Eden or depictions of surf.
01:01:23.000Or the Nephilim or Sodom and Gomorrah.
01:01:27.000There are so many biblical accounts that it's interesting because Scripture is...
01:01:33.000Continually making different demands of its adherence.
01:01:37.000Sometimes you've taken it literally, sometimes you're reading it poetically.
01:01:41.000And when I introduce into that space, Jeremy, the idea of interdimensional, supernatural beings, for me, and it's hardly an original thought, I can't help but at least contemplate how do we bring this together.
01:01:56.000Because I know what I thought when I was 16. I know that when I was 16, one of the things that...
01:02:02.000I don't know if someone told me to think this or if I just thought in myself, oh wow, yeah, the Immaculate Conception.
01:02:08.000Of course, if an extraterrestrial entity or angel, a representative of God, the creative force, came down and said, look, we're going to bring you sort of a saviour that's going to be our consciousness in material form.
01:02:23.000And, you know, you've got to be pretty perfect to take that deal on.
01:02:27.000And we're going to put another one in, your cousin, as well, to sort of, like, you know, prepare the way.
01:02:31.000And he's going to be able to behave in ways that are beyond the limitations of the physical and spatial world, i.e.
01:02:37.000space and time are not going to be relevant because you're not going to be dealing with Newtonian physics, which at that time would have been a far-flung dream.
01:02:51.000Temporal realities and alludes and refers to some kind of unitive field of reality that in a sense is synonymous with the idea of God anyway.
01:03:00.000I mean, where this gets interesting for me is not the kind of corporeal-ness of an alien.
01:03:07.000Like, so the idea of an alien autopsy interests me because I'd be like, oh wow, look, they've got kidneys.
01:03:12.000But what interests me more is the idea of, you know, like the sort of, the sense you get, Jeremy, that you, surely like I, am pursuing that reality is not what you think it is.
01:03:27.000And you feel it sometimes on the edge of dreams.
01:03:29.000You feel it in moments of synchronicity.
01:03:41.000And I really connected that strongly with UFOs, by the way.
01:03:44.000That time was very connected to my fascination with extraterrestrials and UFOs.
01:03:50.000And I suppose you could just argue culturally, oh, well, you would be.
01:03:53.000You were obviously some sort of little outsider, suburban kid, dropping acid, reading, sort of avant-garde literature and the internet of its day, which, of course, was pre-internet or at least popularised internet.
01:04:32.000And the weird thing is, is that even if you don't think you're engaged in some esoteric idea of what is the nature of reality, whether that's UFOs or spirituality, say you're just a flat rationalist, you're still doing that.
01:04:43.000Because you're saying, from now on, men and women do not exist.
01:04:47.000You know, you're still doing the same.
01:04:49.000From now on, we're all gonna wear this kind of...
01:04:53.000We're gonna wear these hats now, and we're gonna use these words.
01:04:59.000You're still, even though you're making...
01:05:03.000You're doing the same job of making an absolute claim about the nature of reality.
01:05:09.000And I think, you know, and what I feel like, you know, what...
01:05:13.000I used to say, sorry, I'll finish with this.
01:05:15.000I recognise I've been talking too much.
01:05:16.000I used to say, prior to becoming more sympathetic, say, with libertarian nationalist movements, for some reasons that were pragmatic and for others because I'd been sort of persuaded, I suppose, I used to sort of say, who cares?
01:05:30.000What's the difference between Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump?
01:07:59.000We are being absolutely 100% bombarded with A critical amount of information at all times from everywhere right now.
01:08:09.000And I think it's going to require some discipline from us to take a step back, take a deep breath, move out of the human Shakespearean drama, and try to understand a little bit more about what it is that we're seeing go down in mass media and popular culture when it comes to these non-human intelligence ideas.
01:08:29.000Because that's what we're learning about right now.
01:08:35.000It's a good way of framing it, Shakespearean drama, because in Shakespeare the referent is kind of a Hellenistic model of the emotions are the ultimate resource.
01:08:47.000So it's going to be like Othello for jealousy, Macbeth for overreaching ambition, Hamlet for ontological indecision.
01:08:59.000But we're saying that the palette of human emotion Maybe incomplete.
01:09:04.000Now, I'm a new convert to Christianity.
01:09:07.000That means I repent of my sins and I turn to Jesus Christ as my Master and my Lord and as my salvation.
01:09:16.000Also, it means that I believe in the rapture, that Christ is going to return.
01:09:22.000And the kingdom of heaven and the kingdom of earth are going to spectacularly merge and create a new kingdom, and that there's going to be some process of separation between good and evil, in inverted commas.
01:09:33.000Now, it's impossible to imagine that when that happens, that's not going to include...
01:09:44.000New information and new interpretations.
01:09:47.000So even if you are an absolute Christian, like an Orthodox Christian or a Roman Catholic, I'm not suggesting that other expressions of Christianity are lesser than that, just newer, I suppose.
01:09:58.000But even if that were, even if you are ardent, ardent, like what they call the militia immaculata, that's a hardcore Catholic sect.
01:10:07.000You would have to accept that when that happens, the kingdom of heaven and earth merge, whatever that's going to be, it's not going to be something we understand yet.
01:10:19.000And it's not going to be something that can be entirely contained within Scripture, is it?
01:10:24.000I mean, like, you know, I'm obviously talking specifically about Revelation now, as well as passages from Daniel and Isaiah and Ezekiel that talk about, like, sort of the apocalyptic event, and obviously it's only post-Christ that this is a sort of a redeeming event that includes salvation and the promise of...
01:11:07.000You know, like if you, when you look at Revelations and it says sort of trumpets and seals and the lamb and the lion and all these entities and a thousand years and Satan and the beast and the Antichrist, I mean, it does sort of really sound like somehow you could go, oh yeah, man, like you'd be able to sort of watch that happening and it to sort of somehow be...
01:11:31.000Somehow inclusive of the general framing of our conversation, and I hope not heretical or blasphemous, because what would it be like for that to be actualised?
01:11:41.000Because it's talking about, you know, the thing is with Christianity, it's not like Buddhism, of like, yeah, yeah, there's a sort of a oneness and reincarnation, or Hinduism, an endless pantheon.
01:11:50.000It's like, no, you're going to have a body.
01:12:25.000From the position where I'm just excited to see what happens, we're definitely in a time of extreme change, and that's an exciting time to be alive.
01:13:00.000One of the things that really affected me, a conversation I guess I had, was with Whitney Webb on this show.
01:13:07.000And I was talking about, like, I was like, oh, man, like, as time goes on, like, even with all the crazy stuff they've said, David Icke...
01:13:16.000And Alex Jones are giving you a better kind of overall perspective on reality than the New York Times and the BBC. What are we supposed to do with that?
01:13:27.000And she sort of said, well, the problem is with, you know, not problem, she said, well, she said it so elegantly without offending anyone.
01:13:38.000Like, with Alex Jones, you have to look at some of the things that are difficult to corroborate.
01:13:43.000And I suppose some things Alex Jones has said, like, famously, there's meme after meme celebrating Alex Jones was right, list of all the things Alex Jones was right about.
01:13:52.000And you can see, if you look at him on X, David Icke just lives in a continual sort of rage about, I've been telling you this for ages.
01:14:06.000And I suppose, like, with someone like, you know, the difference we seem to be describing right now with you saying you're agnostic is you're continually engaging with whistleblowers on a very particular issue, albeit an enormous one, and going, oh, wow, so we can prove that.
01:14:18.000Oh, they're not telling the truth there.
01:14:20.000Well, that looks like that's using this kind of propulsion system.
01:14:22.000And these documents suggest we're being lied to.
01:14:28.000Whereas me, I'm, like, for me, it's like these...
01:14:34.000Unfolding waves of heavenly rapture where I receive the silhouette of Christ in my solar plexus as a kind of geometric affirmation of his sacrifice being the establishment of a hitherto inaccessible frequency.
01:14:55.000And as Whitney Webb might say, that's very difficult to corroborate.
01:15:02.000It's always our friends that are gonna call us out, right?
01:15:05.000No, but listen, I don't know if that word is really, you know, just to be clear, I don't know if I'm agnostic.
01:15:12.000You know, I've always lived with a sense of purpose.
01:15:16.000And if I'm going to speak kind of plainly, I've always felt protected and directed, like there's a kind of strong current that runs through me.
01:15:25.000And if I just get out of my own way and grab onto it, then I'm there for the ride, man.
01:15:30.000And so to me, that is a sense of spirituality, I guess you would say, is I absolutely feel...
01:15:37.000Directed and that there is a current that runs through me.
01:15:41.000And if I stop thinking and making it all about the materialist rationalism that I'm kind of predisposed to, there's something beautiful and powerful about taking that ride, acknowledging it, telling the truth.
01:15:58.000So I wouldn't say I'm agnostic because I don't know what that word means.
01:16:02.000I would just say that I haven't found the words to articulate that aspect of my experience yet, but I can see when other people have.
01:16:11.000It's like an acknowledgement that they're willing to sacrifice their own sense of ego to see where this can take them, not where they want it to go.
01:16:25.000We can check out Jeremy's new podcast, well, ongoing podcast, Weaponized, as well as his new three-part documentary, UFO Revolution, for free on Tubi.
01:16:34.000There's a link in the description for how you can find that.
01:16:39.000Jeremy, it's always amazing to talk to you.
01:16:41.000I've come to the conclusion I'd hate to do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu with you.
01:16:44.000I feel like you're probably pretty good.
01:16:45.000How many times a week are you rolling?
01:16:47.000You can keep believing that because it feels good that you're afraid of me, but I stopped training 25 years ago, man, and I did traditional jiu-jitsu, boxing, wrestling, judo, all that.
01:16:57.000I was never, you know, doing just Brazilian jiu-jitsu, so I think you're safe, Russell.
01:17:02.000I think, you know, you might have an edge.