Stay Free - Russel Brand - UFOs, Whistleblowers, and Government Lies – The Truth with Jeremy Corbell

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00:02:39.000 The Trump...

00:02:40.000 Bump is Trump's popularity increasing as he delivers on his popular mandate.

00:02:45.000 Additionally, I'll be talking to Jeremy Corbell, UFO expert, even though that's a term he rejects, about his recent appearance in Congress, his new documentary, excuse me, UFO Revolution, as well as his podcast, Weaponized.

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00:03:42.000 Firstly, let's talk a little about why the mainstream media are beginning to acknowledge that there's no point to the Democratic Party.

00:03:52.000 Let's have a look at it.

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00:04:06.000 Who is the Democratic Party even for?

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00:04:27.000 You certainly ain't going to be supporting the Democratic Party no more.

00:04:30.000 What's the point of them?

00:04:31.000 Is it Bernie Sanders?

00:04:32.000 Is it AOC? Is it Hunter Biden?

00:04:35.000 Is it Hillary Clinton?

00:04:36.000 Is it Adrenochrome?

00:04:38.000 Is it Frazzledrap?

00:04:39.000 What does the Democratic...

00:04:41.000 What party even stand for now?

00:04:43.000 Let me know in the comments in chat if you have an answer to that not entirely rhetorical question because it is the question we are posing at the beginning of this video that by the end we will have answered.

00:04:53.000 What are the Democratic Party for?

00:04:57.000 Here is a CNN reporter going into meltdown and inward tundra when she is confronted.

00:05:05.000 By the fact that Trump's approval rating is higher now than at any other time.

00:05:12.000 Presumably because in office he is undertaking the policies and legislation that he is mandated to do.

00:05:21.000 And wherever you stand politically, you will enjoy this particular CNN contributor's style.

00:05:28.000 He loves his graphics.

00:05:29.000 He loves his graphs.

00:05:30.000 He adores a spreadsheet.

00:05:32.000 And isn't that what unifies all America?

00:05:34.000 Isn't that what the Democratic Party's for now?

00:05:37.000 Spraycheats!

00:05:38.000 This is a very different Donald Trump.

00:05:39.000 He's leading a very different administration in the way he's attacking things, and the American public is very much more in line with him than they were at any point during his entire first term.

00:05:49.000 One, I would say, correction, this is not a very different Donald Trump.

00:05:54.000 This is a very different Donald Trump as being viewed by voters in this moment.

00:05:58.000 In the way he's going about things with Susan Wiles leading things, I think he is, you know, going at things in a much less disorganized fashion, much more organized.

00:06:06.000 Take me back in history.

00:06:07.000 Take you back in history.

00:06:09.000 What voter out there can look at the Democratic Party at this moment in time and say there's a voice for us, somebody that speaks for us, that goes up on Capitol Hill and fights the fights that we want them fighting on our behalf?

00:06:20.000 They didn't do that.

00:06:21.000 I can't do that.

00:06:22.000 It's literally impossible.

00:06:23.000 Have you not seen Back to the Future?

00:06:25.000 What will happen is all the photographs of your siblings will disappear and you'll end up having sex with your mum.

00:06:29.000 I said, take me back to the future!

00:06:31.000 So, it was so interesting to me that Donald Trump's first net approval rating of his second term is higher than his entire first term, and I was interested.

00:06:39.000 She's doing this with too much intensity there.

00:06:41.000 This facial expression, you can do it for a bit, like a guy like that.

00:06:45.000 That's disapproval to the side, where she's keeping her hand in her pocket.

00:06:48.000 But there's a point where you're doing that so much that you've actually turned into the elephant man.

00:06:52.000 Has that ever happened?

00:06:54.000 Has the second term net approval rating in the first month...

00:06:56.000 Have you ever had a higher rating than any net approval rating during the entire first term?

00:07:01.000 Donald Trump is the only- I have a really hard time believing this.

00:07:05.000 She's actually doing, like, a queen melody.

00:07:08.000 I have a really hard time believing this.

00:07:13.000 Rather than accept reality.

00:07:19.000 You can't, you have to accept reality.

00:07:24.000 I'm just a poor boy from a poor family.

00:07:27.000 Nobody loves me.

00:07:29.000 Like, just accept reality.

00:07:32.000 Don't go scrambling up the octaves in pursuit of a higher truth.

00:07:36.000 This is 100% true.

00:07:38.000 I went back.

00:07:38.000 I love spreadsheets.

00:07:40.000 He's brought us back to earth with her father.

00:07:41.000 She's tried to take us up there.

00:07:43.000 I'm just a poor boy.

00:07:44.000 I love spreadsheets and I love dots and blotches.

00:07:51.000 This baby is off the charts.

00:07:53.000 Donald Trump's is the first guy ever whose net approval rating in the first month of his second term is higher than any rating that he had as an entire first term, Kate Baldwin.

00:08:02.000 This is true.

00:08:03.000 I don't make stuff up.

00:08:04.000 The numbers are the numbers.

00:08:06.000 I believe you.

00:08:07.000 In nothing except when you have it in the wall.

00:08:09.000 And then I believe everything is safe.

00:08:11.000 That's exactly right.

00:08:12.000 Get a room.

00:08:12.000 Like, what's going on with the dynamic in there?

00:08:14.000 I believe you only when it's on the wall.

00:08:17.000 You've let me down too many times.

00:08:19.000 Like, actually, when I discovered that you were gay.

00:08:22.000 Sorry.

00:08:23.000 I mean, in my mind, they were married for a bit there.

00:08:25.000 But he's gazing.

00:08:26.000 I don't think it's wrong to say that.

00:08:27.000 I mean, he is, isn't he?

00:08:29.000 Now, let's have a look at John Fetterman.

00:08:31.000 If ever you want to have a reasonable conversation in life, why not go on The View?

00:08:34.000 Where you will get unbiased.

00:08:37.000 And open conversation from reasonable people.

00:08:40.000 Presumably that's why John Fetterman's gone on there in a tracksuit.

00:08:44.000 Is there anything you've been seeing or do you anticipate that there's gonna be...

00:08:49.000 I had a Star Wars figure with that haircut.

00:08:51.000 Changes that we should be...

00:08:55.000 I mean, honestly, I haven't been surprised by anything now.

00:08:59.000 I mean, he's been doing essentially what he actually campaigned on that.

00:09:03.000 He announced he is going to pardon the J6 individuals.

00:09:07.000 He is going to absolutely go after the border.

00:09:10.000 So there's a lot of things that he's already ran on.

00:09:13.000 I mean, criticize a lot of it.

00:09:15.000 And I don't agree with everything either.

00:09:16.000 But is the criticism Donald Trump is doing what he campaigned on?

00:09:23.000 Or is the...

00:09:24.000 What is the criticism?

00:09:25.000 I mean, that is the criticism.

00:09:25.000 That is what you campaigned on.

00:09:27.000 So then you have to say, I don't agree with democracy.

00:09:29.000 And then you're in real trouble if the name of your party rhymes with democracy, or at least borrows heavily from the same etymological root as the word democracy.

00:09:39.000 Because that is obviously what people voted for.

00:09:42.000 And then whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant, because what you've said is you want to live in a country where consensus is derived from a mandate from the people.

00:09:51.000 And if you don't believe that, if you're like, no, actually, what I want is I want to tell people what to do.

00:09:55.000 People are stupid.

00:09:56.000 They don't understand what they want.

00:09:57.000 If that's what you want, then that is a different thing.

00:09:59.000 And you're going to have to change the name of your party to the tyrant's party.

00:10:04.000 It's undeniable.

00:10:05.000 He actually ran on that and been really upfront.

00:10:07.000 Which is ironic.

00:10:08.000 Because the main thing you claim about Trump, of course, is that he's tyrannical.

00:10:12.000 But I don't know that that's true, actually, because he's just said, the only stuff that worries me that Trump's doing is the AI mRNA stuff.

00:10:21.000 Not the only thing.

00:10:22.000 But one of the things that I think, ooh, I don't know about that, that's a bit...

00:10:24.000 Mad, isn't it?

00:10:25.000 Can you explain that to me very slowly?

00:10:27.000 And I suppose people say, oh, it's entrepreneurial and it's going to be brilliant for the economy and stuff.

00:10:30.000 And I'm like, what about mRNA cancer vaccines?

00:10:32.000 If I do, if we are to explore that realm, I don't know if I want it in the hands of the very people that have caused these problems.

00:10:39.000 And I hope that RFK and all those people at the HHS are going to be able to operate as guardrails against the excesses of a pharmaceutical industry that has too much power and influence with legislators and has become sort of one of the arms of rampant corporatism along with military industrial complex and the censorship industrial complex that are able to augur mass mass control.

00:11:00.000 He's like, I am your reputation.

00:11:02.000 And he's, you know, kind of making those moves.

00:11:05.000 So that's kind of where we're at.

00:11:07.000 Early on, immediately after the election, I was like, hey, you know, we have a choice.

00:11:12.000 You know, we can freak out and follow every other thing around, you know, like a cat, you know, with a laser, you know, after he won.

00:11:19.000 Sometimes I think that I have a kind of tangential and unusual mind.

00:11:24.000 You know, I sort of thought, oh, that was a bit abstract, what you just said.

00:11:27.000 Then I watched like John Fetterman, like who's just like a regular guy.

00:11:30.000 I mean, just a senator in a hoodie is an extraordinary anachronism.

00:11:35.000 On a show, like The View, which is homogenised, sanitised, commercialised information, and they say things like, you know, if you're going to be like a cat following a laser, I think everyone's actually really on a weird trip.

00:11:50.000 Like, everyone is.

00:11:51.000 It's not just me, like, saying odd stuff.

00:11:53.000 Like, there's John Fettman on The View, and we're like, you know, like a cat following a laser.

00:11:58.000 Like, is that...

00:11:59.000 Is that an oft-cited example of easily distracted and discursive?

00:12:06.000 Or is John Fetterman referencing a recent time in his own life where he's like, Hey, the cat's really into this.

00:12:13.000 Actually, the cat can't even hold its focus on anything now.

00:12:17.000 It can't even...

00:12:19.000 Recognize whether or not a president is fulfilling its mandate.

00:12:22.000 See?

00:12:23.000 But I'm not that guy.

00:12:24.000 I'm not going to be that Democrat.

00:12:25.000 You know, for me, there's things I'm going to agree with, I'm going to disagree with, but I'm in the business of finding wins for Pennsylvania and for the nation and engaging the president.

00:12:36.000 I think I see that as doing my job.

00:12:41.000 Okay, ironically, we began this video by asking, what is the point of the Democratic Party?

00:12:46.000 And in a sense, we're asking, who are the symbols of it?

00:12:48.000 How will it proceed?

00:12:49.000 And people, I guess, will be trying to look into the miasma and dirge of the post-election Democrat Party and say, who is likely to rise up to be the avatar of a renewed opposition to the current MAGA movement?

00:13:01.000 And people will probably say someone like AOC, who has obvious appeal and following.

00:13:06.000 And then people like John Fetterman.

00:13:08.000 And then you wonder...

00:13:09.000 Will the Democrat Party in its ongoing sanitary process remove...

00:13:15.000 Even those somewhat popular figures in the same way that it extracted RFK and Sanders.

00:13:21.000 Let me know in the comments in chat what you think about that, because it seems the Democrat Party belongs to a kind of, do I want to say heterodoxy, sort of like an entrenchant heritage system that means that only Obamas and Clintons and their acolytes can control that movement.

00:13:36.000 And indeed, isn't that what has in some significant portion caused its collapse and decline?

00:13:42.000 Here's the deal.

00:13:44.000 The man was impeached twice.

00:13:46.000 I like the way this man speaks for a kickoff.

00:13:48.000 He was a dude.

00:13:49.000 And he is...

00:13:50.000 As we now know, Stephen A. Smith appearing on Bill Maher to tell us that the Democrat Party have completely lost direction.

00:13:58.000 I've been on that show of Bill Maher several times and what you're doing is you're preaching to the choir.

00:14:03.000 It's difficult to get anti-establishment information out on that show now because where Bill Maher would have once been seen as a somewhat renegade figure within institutional politics, as the Democrat Party became what they became, this sort of conduit for globalism, All of their media assets had to reposition themselves.

00:14:22.000 What does John Stewart represent now?

00:14:23.000 What does Bill Maher represent now?

00:14:25.000 What does Stephen Colbert represent now?

00:14:27.000 Popular mainstream figures that are pro-Democrats and can be useful anti-establishment figures if what you've got in power is Cheney and Bush waging wild wars in Iraq.

00:14:41.000 But now you have Biden and Kamala Harris and Obama.

00:14:44.000 Once you've had that, you start to wonder, well, what is that perspective?

00:14:48.000 That's part of the question we're asking, because we're not just saying what is the Democratic Party for, the political operation, but also the cultural phenomena that surrounds it.

00:14:58.000 If you're like a Democrat Party YouTuber right now, like, say, Dave Pakman, what is your role now to sort of go, well, Trump's expelling people at an alarming rate.

00:15:08.000 That's not surprising, is it?

00:15:11.000 Well, Trump seems to be playing golf.

00:15:14.000 And making off-handed comments while going by in a golf buggy.

00:15:18.000 Yeah, he's always doing that.

00:15:19.000 Well, Trump is doing some posts on Truth Social from Mar-a-Lago.

00:15:23.000 That's what he's always done.

00:15:24.000 That's basically what you're going to get.

00:15:27.000 And that's what people evidently want.

00:15:29.000 What's a more interesting question?

00:15:30.000 What does the Democratic Party mean now?

00:15:33.000 And what will it mean in media?

00:15:34.000 What will it mean in culture?

00:15:36.000 Where will it go now?

00:15:37.000 Because we're seeing the last vestiges of actual political power in countries like Canada and my own country, the UK, when it comes to...

00:15:43.000 The centre-left neoliberal political operations, i.e.

00:15:46.000 whatever that was that Trudeau was in charge of, and my thing over there with Keir Starmer, Labour, those things are entering now into total decline, presumably to be replaced by populist nationalist political movements, which is essentially what's happened in the United States and elsewhere.

00:16:01.000 But what will opposition look like?

00:16:03.000 Can opposition even come from the left now?

00:16:05.000 Or does political opposition to nationalism have to reconfigure now?

00:16:10.000 Now that it can't be some repackaged, reframed globalist purview, which is what it's been for the, you know, basically for the entirety of the post-war era.

00:16:19.000 Let's get back to our man on Bill Maher and see if he can give us a vision.

00:16:26.000 For the Democrat Party, let's see what Bill Maher says and let's look at how the audience react to it.

00:16:31.000 He was convicted on 34 felony counts.

00:16:34.000 I would watch a TV show where he does the opening titles.

00:16:38.000 You know, like how the A-Team was like, 34 felony counts.

00:16:42.000 You know, like with the A-Team, it's like, dum-dum.

00:16:45.000 Some veterans.

00:16:47.000 In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit.

00:16:53.000 A crime they didn't commit.

00:16:55.000 Or even Knight Rider.

00:16:57.000 Like with Knight Rider, what is it telling you?

00:17:00.000 Michael Knight, a young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless.

00:17:07.000 He's traveling the land, solving crimes with his car.

00:17:10.000 And the American people still said, he's closer to normal.

00:17:14.000 Exactly.

00:17:16.000 That's what they're saying.

00:17:16.000 He's closer to normal.

00:17:18.000 Why?

00:17:18.000 Because something that pertains, when you talk about the transgender community, for example, and you're talking about the issues that pertain to less than 1% of the population, the Democratic Party came across as if that was a priority, more so than the other issues.

00:17:30.000 And so he comes into office.

00:17:31.000 Now you're talking about childbirth, citizenship, and what have you.

00:17:34.000 He knows that's not going to pass the mustard, but he knows that he made that promise.

00:17:38.000 So when he shows up week one on Capitol Hill, he says, this is what we're going to do through an executive order, even though it's going to be shot.

00:17:47.000 He's saying, I kept my promise.

00:17:49.000 A lot of other things that he's gonna point to that he's gonna try to do, I kept my promise.

00:17:52.000 Then you turn around and you look at the left and you say, what promises did you keep?

00:17:56.000 Now you might know the answer to that.

00:17:57.000 I'm certainly not questioning your knowledge about that at all.

00:18:00.000 What I'm saying is, what resonated with the view, with the voter?

00:18:03.000 What voter out there can look at the Democratic Party at this moment in time and say, there's a voice for us, somebody that speaks for us, that goes up on Capitol Hill and fights the fights that we want them fighting on our behalf.

00:18:14.000 He didn't do that.

00:18:15.000 And that's why they're behind the home, and that man is back into the White House, and they want to sit up there and talk.

00:18:20.000 You look at the networks right now.

00:18:21.000 They're talking about him.

00:18:21.000 Look at it.

00:18:22.000 This is the latest.

00:18:23.000 Look at him.

00:18:23.000 Here he goes again.

00:18:24.000 Well, you know what here he goes again means?

00:18:26.000 He's doing what he said he was going to do.

00:18:29.000 He promised you he was going to do these things, and he walked into office week one, and that's exactly what he's doing, and he's saying, y'all do something about it.

00:18:37.000 And when you try to do something about it, he's going to say, look at them now.

00:18:39.000 Now they're concerned about these issues.

00:18:41.000 Were they talking about that during the campaign?

00:18:42.000 Hell no.

00:18:43.000 That's really it.

00:18:46.000 It's like a reasonable description of the situation, I would say, but perhaps I'd go a little further in my prognosis.

00:18:53.000 If the Democratic Party is ever to have meaning again, it's going to have to find some authority and integrity and some real purpose, because I think what happened over time is that that...

00:19:02.000 The entire political movement, and I mean internationally, but gosh, perhaps I should just focus on your country for a moment, got captured by globalism in two forms, commercialism, corporatism, and the deep state institutions that serve the interests of, for example, the military-industrial complex, Big Pharma or Big Tech.

00:19:20.000 And additionally, the migration component, which many people interpreted as a desire to dilute or otherwise threaten national populations beyond the explicit limits of legal.

00:19:33.000 Now, the Democrat Party has no real ideology, I don't think, except the vestiges and leftovers of wokeism, which have been rejected en masse, not just by MAGA or MAHA supporters, but I would say by a significant percentage of people everywhere.

00:19:49.000 And what remains, I would argue, could be satiated with a compassionate spiritual perspective, i.e.

00:19:57.000 love everyone.

00:19:58.000 We are all one human family, but we must not allow love to outrun truth.

00:20:04.000 In the same way, we must not let truth by too great a margin exceed love.

00:20:08.000 We must...

00:20:09.000 Balance the requirements for order, discipline and responsibility with an absolute requirement for compassion.

00:20:17.000 What we had in the Democratic Party was this just horrible, empty, hollow bureaucracy, total lack of competence, vision, direction and real principles.

00:20:27.000 So of course it's imploding.

00:20:29.000 And as it implodes, it seems that in the sub-molecular morass, very little is emerging in the way of new direction.

00:20:36.000 But why would new direction emerge?

00:20:38.000 In the form of the candour of John Fetterman just casually slouched on the view, telling the happy coven that...

00:20:46.000 People asked for a certain direction.

00:20:48.000 People voted for certain policies, and now those policies are being implemented.

00:20:53.000 And whether you agree with them or not, that's democracy.

00:20:56.000 And if you call yourself the Democrat Party, you can't have a problem with that.

00:21:00.000 But that's just what I think.

00:21:01.000 Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and chat.

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00:23:43.000 Coffee and cyber trucks?

00:23:46.000 Let's get back to the content.

00:23:47.000 My guest for the show today is a phenomena in himself, although he can easily be identified by his beard.

00:23:56.000 He looks like a hench-fit Santa Claus.

00:23:59.000 It's Jeremy Corbell, an American contemporary artist, investigative filmmaker and ufologist.

00:24:03.000 He's renowned for his documentaries exploring unexplained phenomena, advanced technologies and the intersection of science and mystery.

00:24:10.000 Through his diverse career, Corbell continues to explore and document the boundaries between science, art and the unknown.

00:24:16.000 You can check out his podcast Weaponized as well as his new three-part documentary UFO Revolution for free on Tubi or by clicking the link in the description.

00:24:25.000 Jeremy!

00:24:26.000 Thank you for joining us today.

00:24:28.000 What's up, man?

00:24:29.000 I'm always happy to see you.

00:24:31.000 Good to see you, man.

00:24:33.000 I really wanted to release your videos as promo, but I thought, you can't do that without asking people.

00:24:41.000 And then before I was able to really ask you, I thought, oh, it's going to take too long.

00:24:49.000 But they're such good videos.

00:24:52.000 You and your dog.

00:24:54.000 You can always use anything I've ever done and just put it out.

00:24:59.000 It's fine with me.

00:24:59.000 You don't got to ask from now on.

00:25:02.000 than this.

00:25:02.000 Yeah, man, looking forward to it with the conversation.

00:25:04.000 It's, yeah, dude, it's Shakespearean and shit.

00:25:13.000 In that show, they dramatize it and shit with music.

00:25:18.000 But it was fucking dramatic, bro.

00:25:19.000 It was dramatic.

00:25:20.000 I think it's important.

00:25:21.000 But anyway, we'll talk UFOs and all that fun stuff and hope you're doing good.

00:25:25.000 Thanks for the video.

00:25:25.000 Talk soon.

00:25:28.000 Good promo.

00:25:29.000 I'd like that as promo.

00:25:31.000 I'd like that as promo because I think it looks unusual.

00:25:34.000 And the one before it, you're with your dog.

00:25:36.000 What's your dog called?

00:25:38.000 Wiley is the big one.

00:25:41.000 He's my boy.

00:25:43.000 Jeremy took a 12-page document forward before a congressional hearing to bring clarity to the American people.

00:25:51.000 Then, U.S. Representative Nancy Mace, in the hearing, stated that that congressional report was given to her by Michael Schellenberger.

00:25:59.000 Worth mentioning here that I have a relationship with Michael, as in, like, you know, he comes on.

00:26:06.000 Michael, years ago, probably two years ago, you know, I was already chatting with you, you were already doing stuff, you'd already been on Rogan with...

00:26:15.000 Bob Lazar.

00:26:17.000 But Michael, I had a chat with him probably around that wave of interest.

00:26:22.000 And like he said, Michael, that he had heard from a separate source close to government that UFOs are real, that the government are in touch with extraterrestrials.

00:26:34.000 In fact, the thing that I said in my message to you where I go, the thing that fascinates me most about all of this is...

00:26:41.000 The thing that fascinates me most is the idea that there are living entities and that these living entities are in communication with governments and it impacts power and the control of information.

00:26:53.000 It was Michael Schellenberger that told me that.

00:26:55.000 He went so far as to say, like, he'd heard that there are, like, different nations and that they are integrated and, like, there's some that are, like, Nordics or whatever and come here and, like, they want to go shopping and stuff and it's like, what, what?

00:27:07.000 But they're not on a total, we are from another day.

00:27:11.000 They're not totally tuned in to, like, high frequencies of consciousness.

00:27:16.000 Like when you hear Terence McKenna talking about extraterrestrials, you think, oh, these things might be extra-dimensional.

00:27:22.000 Like, they're not even fully material.

00:27:25.000 And, like, when you look in the book of Genesis, Jeremy, when it says that Adam and Eve were clothed in light, and after the fall, they get covered in skin.

00:27:36.000 And it's like, whoa!

00:27:38.000 Prototype humans...

00:27:40.000 Might have been almost interdimensional before becoming material as a result of the fall and the disobedience or whatever.

00:27:48.000 Anyway, so I've always known Michael Schellenberger to be a quite sort of up there level of understanding.

00:27:58.000 Like, you know, he's a pretty serious journalist that will talk for ages about the LA fires and go, well, this department had this budget and da-da-da, like, you know, so he's not like...

00:28:06.000 Anyone like you, Jeremy, who is particular to this field...

00:28:11.000 You carry the weight of, oh, this isn't proper, it's still crazy.

00:28:16.000 You know, even when you talk about these things now, there'll be a lot of people going, this is a distraction, it's a distraction, it's man-made stuff or whatever.

00:28:23.000 But from your take on it, with your most recent, in your podcast, Weaponised, you're talking a lot about your new documentary, UFO Revolution, which is a three-part documentary that's available on Tubi for all of us.

00:28:38.000 Let's post the link in the description to that now.

00:28:40.000 You know, even if you've spent a lot of time with the elders in this field, I'm speaking to like Bob Lazar, and I know you've put decades into this, I know from people who know you outside of this, like Mark Mahoney or whatever, the genius artist and tattooist, he's like, him and his wife were like, we were so glad when this happened for Jeremy, because this dude has been on it for years and years, when no one would talk to him, he's been dedicated, you know, like you'll be, when you're an old dude, you'll be like...

00:29:07.000 Jeremy Corbell was one of the first people that started to stick their neck out on this stuff.

00:29:12.000 And being a BJJ guy, you know you don't stick their neck out.

00:29:15.000 So, can I ask you, are we in a moment of real transition?

00:29:20.000 Are we going to discover that non-human entities are involved?

00:29:25.000 And I suppose as well, tell us in particular about how your documentary, UFO Revolution, covers the idea that we are potentially going to get a false flag event in the coming months.

00:29:39.000 Right.

00:29:40.000 So a lot of that was kind of taken out of context and clipped online is a normal thing for when I say something.

00:29:46.000 It's not just scrutinized.

00:29:48.000 It can often be manipulated.

00:29:50.000 So what, you know, look, it's just the name of the game when you're talking about something that can cause ontological shock, right?

00:29:56.000 But here's the deal.

00:29:59.000 I accepted the invitation.

00:30:02.000 To have a documentary crew follow me for about a year on this road to trying to get a second hearing on UFOs to the American public.

00:30:12.000 So that's what the documentary premise was.

00:30:14.000 They're like, let me just follow your life and what you do on a daily basis and see where that goes over the year.

00:30:20.000 And I was kind of grateful for it.

00:30:23.000 Because at the time, I'd been receiving a lot of threats and not just negative comments online.

00:30:28.000 When you're dropping military-filmed UAP videos the government doesn't want you to see, which is fact.

00:30:34.000 That's what George and I have been doing as part of our work.

00:30:36.000 You get some pushback, man.

00:30:38.000 It's a battlefield when it comes to truth about UAP and UFO. Kind of, to your point, yeah, I started this accidentally.

00:30:47.000 You know, Mark Mahoney, there's footage of him and me years ago, and I'm complaining to him.

00:30:53.000 I'm like, I'm knocking on the doors, trying to get to George Knapp, trying to get to somebody that can start telling me what this is about.

00:31:00.000 Because I, like you, am curious.

00:31:03.000 Is this just physical machines?

00:31:05.000 Why this?

00:31:06.000 Why this?

00:31:06.000 Why did you become obsessed way back then?

00:31:10.000 You know, it's kind of the biggest question.

00:31:13.000 That I've ever been able to ask, which is, are we alone in the universe?

00:31:17.000 What is the nature of reality?

00:31:19.000 Is our physics wrong?

00:31:20.000 Are we being visited?

00:31:22.000 Are those distances so vast that they're not able to be traversed by an advanced technology from some culture that has had more time to develop?

00:31:31.000 They're just big fucking questions.

00:31:33.000 And so I got kind of sparked by Bob Lazar, like a lot of people, when he described the propulsion systems.

00:31:40.000 The way he described it...

00:31:41.000 Distance no longer matters.

00:31:44.000 All of a sudden, distance is irrelevant because of the propulsion systems.

00:31:48.000 So I was kind of like a tech geek.

00:31:50.000 You know, in my mind at 13 years old, that's what sparked me.

00:31:54.000 But that's not why I stayed.

00:31:56.000 That's not why I'm fighting for this.

00:31:58.000 Why I'm fighting for this is because I realized it is true.

00:32:01.000 There is truth to this.

00:32:03.000 UFOs are real.

00:32:04.000 You've been lied to.

00:32:06.000 And whatever the reason of why you've been lied to by our governments, our world governments, they've tried to cover this up.

00:32:14.000 And there's documented proof of this.

00:32:16.000 This is not like a mystery.

00:32:17.000 Why do you try to cover something up with a lie?

00:32:20.000 It's usually because the truth is quite profound.

00:32:23.000 And it could shake the foundations of how we understand what it means to be a human being living on planet Earth.

00:32:31.000 In this flesh suit of a human body.

00:32:33.000 I don't know, man.

00:32:34.000 Isn't that...

00:32:35.000 Freaking exciting?

00:32:36.000 Yes, I mean, like you said very early in your brilliant answer, ontological shock, which is what I'm trying to rebrand this kombucha as right now.

00:32:45.000 I think it's a good name for something, ontological shock.

00:32:48.000 Like you said, even when you're just dealing with the physics, just the physics, like the idea that distance and space don't matter, once you start messing with the rules of reality, you're getting close.

00:32:58.000 Obviously, by virtue of that fact, you're getting close to God.

00:33:02.000 And what else is there to discuss?

00:33:04.000 Now, one of the things you didn't cover there, because I gave you such a discursive and undisciplined initial question, was how this leads to a potential false flag event.

00:33:20.000 Around UFOs and also whether or not you believe that in addition to the more engineering and physical miracles like the space-time stuff you covered in the first answer, potentially there's a sort of cosmic sociological and even cosmic political component to this if there are interdimensional or inter...

00:33:44.000 ...beings communicating with us, and also how that might lead to the false flag event, because presumably those things have got to be connected.

00:33:52.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't think, you know, the visitors just like our kind of interdimensional Gucci, they're here.

00:33:59.000 For some reason, and they might not be coming from outer space.

00:34:02.000 You know, we really don't know.

00:34:04.000 We definitely see craft traversing in space, but that, you know, the origin might be what they call, I don't know, ultra-dimensional or ultra-terrestrial, right?

00:34:15.000 They might be from here and just have been here longer than us.

00:34:18.000 But to answer your question, in my series, in the last episode...

00:34:22.000 Understand, the first two episodes, I show you what it takes to get into Congress, what's going on, all the meetings I had, bringing whistleblowers firsthand, whistleblowers in, in like secret meetings.

00:34:31.000 I mean, you see a lot of cool stuff.

00:34:32.000 You see new footage from Iraq of something that looks like the gimbal UAP, but this is different footage, and so it's interesting.

00:34:41.000 But the false flag thing, I want to really clarify this because people chop up my words and completely change the origin of where I was going with that.

00:34:49.000 What I was trying to say...

00:34:51.000 Is the quiet part out loud.

00:34:53.000 This is really important.

00:34:55.000 Everybody researching this, everybody involved in this, they were whispered these dates.

00:35:00.000 2027, 3036. It was like this range where something big is supposed to happen.

00:35:06.000 I just called bullshit on it.

00:35:09.000 In my series, what I said is that we are being whispered these dates that I fear that this is a false narrative to try to get people into the UFO community and kind of give a sense of, you know, private power to people.

00:35:25.000 I was just saying that I don't buy it, that I know the origin of what I believe to be a mythology, that it's being told to people privately, not publicly by the government.

00:35:36.000 Privately, that there's an event that's going to occur.

00:35:39.000 Now look, Russell, I am wrong every day of my life.

00:35:42.000 Ask my wife, ask my dog.

00:35:44.000 It happens every day.

00:35:46.000 I literally don't know when my coffee pot's going to go off when I said it.

00:35:50.000 Like, I'm not perfect with my beliefs and understanding, but it is my belief.

00:35:55.000 That this is false.

00:35:57.000 That people are being whispered this date and that this is not the reality.

00:36:03.000 That it's being used and weaponized as a tool to encourage people to kind of participate on a level.

00:36:09.000 I believe that the UAP narrative is now being shaped.

00:36:13.000 And my joke about it, because the CIA has this memo that I've been exposed to that says, you know, part of the duty is to shape the emerging UAP narrative.

00:36:22.000 And it's like, why do you got to shape anything?

00:36:24.000 Just tell the truth.

00:36:26.000 You've covered up all this shit about UFOs for decades.

00:36:29.000 Now it looks like we're about to get some truth.

00:36:33.000 I am highly concerned that to regain control, there are powers at force that want to shape how you understand the truth that UFOs are real.

00:36:43.000 So I say all the king's horses and all the king's men.

00:36:47.000 And you know, it usually says, can't put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

00:36:50.000 What I say is shaping the UAP narrative again, because that's what I see as a journalist.

00:36:55.000 I see people being manipulated and used in order to put out what I think is a false agenda.

00:37:03.000 So you understand now why I mentioned that in the show, is I am calling out the quiet part.

00:37:08.000 I am saying people are being told this.

00:37:10.000 Journalists like me are being told this, and I don't buy it for a second.

00:37:16.000 Yeah, I suppose it's because information of this magnitude has always had the potential to be disruptive.

00:37:26.000 Generally, the tactic has been to discredit the information and control it in that way through discrediting it.

00:37:33.000 Even if highly credible people emerged, like some of the people we've already listed in our conversation, they can easily be denounced because the information...

00:37:42.000 It just seems so implausible and so novel and kind of stimulating.

00:37:47.000 Now we're in a new phase, I suppose, because in every field, information has become diffuse, whistleblowers have become more common, the ability to spread information has sort of grown exponentially.

00:37:59.000 So like with everything, new tactics are required, a different type of discrediting that includes maligning and more serious tactics even than that.

00:38:10.000 So I suppose what you're saying is that there is a real-time attempt to ensure that the revelations around UAPs or UFOs or whatever terminology one prefers does not lead to a break in control.

00:38:28.000 Does not lead to a break in control.

00:38:30.000 And in this regard, it's not really different from information during COVID or any story where the function of media, conventional media, At least, is to ensure that in partnership with the state and other powerful interests, they're able to ensure that information doesn't reach significant numbers of people that will, for want of a better term, cause mass civil disobedience.

00:38:55.000 We've reached a point, I think, with these disclosures, say, under Trump with regard to JFK, where there's a sense that maybe that could happen.

00:39:06.000 And what we'll learn, perhaps, is what the limits are of even a popular leader like Trump are.

00:39:12.000 Is Trump able to go, here you go, there's the files on JFK, and we look at that and go, whoa, you can't ever trust them again!

00:39:21.000 Or 9-11, whoa, we could never trust them!

00:39:25.000 Or UFOs.

00:39:27.000 Potentially, wow, our whole understanding of reality has got to be revised.

00:39:32.000 Is it more significant than a shift from Hellenism to Modernism?

00:39:37.000 I don't know.

00:39:38.000 It seems to me that it has the potential for us to...

00:39:41.000 If that information isn't controlled, some of the conclusions that might be drawn...

00:39:46.000 I remember hearing Timothy Good talk about this, and I've mentioned this to you before, our spiritual conclusions, in a sense, circumvent and infuse all other matters, because it's a claim to absolute truth.

00:39:56.000 Once you start making claims around absolute truth, which is what religion does, then you are the supreme power.

00:40:06.000 Inverted commas, claim the supreme truth, collapse and implode with globalism being sort of faltering in the hands of neoliberalists and the cultural movement of wokeism faltering and being sort of reclaimed by nationalism and populism.

00:40:21.000 But if there were a new, as you said, ontological shock where people en masse were starting to question, like...

00:40:28.000 Interdimensionality and what Christ is and who Christ was and new ways of understanding his divine significance and absolute holiness, for example, just one potential take, then power is going to be significantly disrupted.

00:40:44.000 So where you are, what an amazing time to have been making a documentary, because I was watching that stuff when it was happening anyway, you know, like when that documentary was being made about you, I was like, oh wow, this is cool!

00:40:57.000 Jeremy Corbell's having a seat in Congress and stuff.

00:41:01.000 I wonder how this is going to play out.

00:41:04.000 So how it played out, you believe, is the system is magnificent at getting information, controlling it, managing it, reapportioning it, neutralizing it, diluting it, doing whatever it needs to do to ensure that that information doesn't disrupt the system itself.

00:41:20.000 Yeah, I mean, I saw it for myself.

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00:42:34.000 Look, the first hearing was a sneak attack.

00:42:37.000 Getting David Grush there, getting Commander Fravor, Ryan Graves.

00:42:41.000 When I was like calling David Grush and when I was calling Commander Fravor in particular, convincing them this is important, you know, put your head above the parapet.

00:42:49.000 You have something to say.

00:42:51.000 That was really a sneak attack.

00:42:52.000 What I noticed this second hearing, it was very managed and it felt to me like a counterintelligence operation to find out specifically with me and George Knapp, we felt this.

00:43:04.000 They were trying to find out who we knew.

00:43:06.000 Who was telling us?

00:43:07.000 What they knew?

00:43:08.000 What assets or information we might be reporting a release soon to the American public?

00:43:14.000 You know, they played it really well.

00:43:16.000 It seemed like a management system, and then bam, I really saw it.

00:43:20.000 It was really unfortunate, and I'm very perplexed by it.

00:43:23.000 I'll break this down for you, man.

00:43:25.000 I worked for two months to get onto congressional record for the American public.

00:43:30.000 And for the common understanding, something called the Immaculate Constellation Report.

00:43:35.000 I brought in the first-hand individual, the author, the whistleblower himself, into multiple members of Congress's office.

00:43:46.000 And I did this way before...

00:43:49.000 The actual term had been publicly acknowledged.

00:43:52.000 So this is something I was working on because I believe this information, I vetted this information and so did George Knapp.

00:43:59.000 So when I saw this kind of sleight of hand in Congress where they accredited Michael Schellenberger to it, which really saddened me that he didn't immediately say, wait a second, I'm a journalist, he's a journalist, we're both fighting the same fight.

00:44:13.000 I was stoked to have another journalist that I thought would be...

00:44:16.000 A man of his word and I thought would be truthful and not lie through omission.

00:44:23.000 It was a very bizarre thing and I know you're friends with him and I can't explain to you why that happened other than I know that Congress even fabricated a fake page.

00:44:35.000 I was asked to write an explanatory cover page.

00:44:38.000 Of the submission that I was making sure was going through this process meticulously to put on congressional record.

00:44:45.000 And I did so.

00:44:46.000 And at the end of the day, in the moment, at the dais, there's Nancy Mace, loud out, knowingly, blatantly lying about how she obtained and how they obtained, Congress obtained, that 12-page document which I submitted to Congress.

00:45:03.000 When that happened, I realized it was much more than just, oh, someone else is turning in your homework.

00:45:09.000 What I noticed is that they would go as far as to fabricate the congressional record, not just to erase my participation, but to try to create a different narrative to the American public of who can be trusted with whistleblowers.

00:45:24.000 And it was this moment that really nailed it home because I had seen it happening, the shaping of the narrative.

00:45:32.000 This is who you can trust and can go to.

00:45:34.000 And unfortunately, they're not trustworthy.

00:45:37.000 I'm sorry to say it.

00:45:38.000 It hurts me to say it.

00:45:40.000 But their actions tell me that they're not trustworthy.

00:45:44.000 And I think that's very dangerous.

00:45:46.000 It is dangerous for people like whistleblowers to put their trust in people who are not deserving of your trust due to their actions.

00:45:54.000 So Russell, you asked me, so I'm trying to tell you in plain English the way I see it.

00:46:00.000 I've been fighting at this thing for a while.

00:46:02.000 When people started losing control because of social media, because of whistleblowers coming forward, because of the deregulation of truthful information, there's a power grab going on right now.

00:46:14.000 And that power grab has to do with technology, influence, finance.

00:46:20.000 It's a story as old as time.

00:46:23.000 It's a Shakespearean drama.

00:46:24.000 I just happened to see it firsthand and I'm calling bullshit.

00:46:29.000 What revelation or revelations are you willing to make that others wouldn't be willing to make that justifies them extracting you and delegitimizing your contribution?

00:46:45.000 What do you imagine that line to be or can you prove what that line is?

00:46:50.000 Yeah, I mean, so clearly it's a lot about my relationship to whistleblowers and firsthand people that come to me and George Knapp and we document their experiences, bringing people forward.

00:47:00.000 If I can be trusted with the fact that I... Go ahead, yeah.

00:47:04.000 Are they generally primarily military or people in aeronautical stuff?

00:47:10.000 So it's mostly about hardware and tech.

00:47:13.000 Right?

00:47:14.000 They're not whistleblowers that go, I've seen a bunch of documents and videos of extraterrestrials.

00:47:19.000 Is it the former or latter categories or both?

00:47:22.000 Jeremy, sorry to interrupt.

00:47:23.000 Yeah.

00:47:24.000 No, it's a great question.

00:47:26.000 So by definition, the idea of a whistleblower is a government employee in the way that I work with this.

00:47:31.000 So I'll say government employees who have had exposure to the legacy architecture, the legacy programs, reverse engineering, actually have physically worked on some of the craft themselves.

00:47:43.000 So I think that, you know, why I'm dangerous to some of this, why...

00:47:47.000 They played it like George and I were going to testify and asked, what assets do we have to bring in?

00:47:52.000 If you look at my past, I have released some of the...

00:47:56.000 You know, or most of the footage of military film UAP, designated by UAP. So I think that's a threat to the control system and to the narrative if I continue doing such with George Knapp.

00:48:08.000 So what is it that I could bring to the table?

00:48:11.000 I think I don't have any NDAs.

00:48:13.000 I don't have any political aspirations.

00:48:15.000 I am just trying to tell it as I know it.

00:48:17.000 So it's both assets and people coming forward to the American public.

00:48:21.000 If people believe and trust my information, I think that is a problem to the status quo and consensus reality as we know it.

00:48:28.000 Yeah, but I reckon that we need to know what kind of thing it is because I know that...

00:48:34.000 Listen, because until we started to unpack it, if you'd asked me to list credible journalists that you could rely on to be...

00:48:50.000 I've spoken to him on the record about UFOs.

00:49:10.000 So I feel like what would...

00:49:15.000 You say that Michael Schellenberger wouldn't say.

00:49:20.000 That's the only reason to delegitimize you while simultaneously legitimizing Michael.

00:49:28.000 Like, I would have to, so, and I feel like, you know, this is not based on anything other than my sort of guesses, that Michael Schellenberger would be a person that would probably go quite far with stuff, I would figure.

00:49:39.000 So I wonder, what is the margin?

00:49:43.000 Yeah, no, look, I would be really happy to have other journalists in this that can be trusted that are talking about this.

00:49:49.000 We need help.

00:49:50.000 We need more people.

00:49:51.000 I was pumped when he broke the story of Immaculate Constellation.

00:49:55.000 You see me on the news.

00:49:56.000 I'm like, oh, hell yeah.

00:49:57.000 I had never talked to him.

00:49:59.000 Honestly, Russell, this is not about him and me.

00:50:03.000 This is about a larger system of...

00:50:06.000 Of influence that I see in Congress.

00:50:09.000 And here's what you need to know about it.

00:50:11.000 I mean, Tim Burchett himself, Representative Burchett, said the reason they excluded from being able to say my name was a security issue.

00:50:18.000 He admitted that, that he was told that.

00:50:21.000 I don't know what that security issue is.

00:50:23.000 I can only fathom.

00:50:25.000 So it's not about like who testifies.

00:50:27.000 I think it's important to have voices out there, people that are righteous.

00:50:30.000 Telling the truth about this and maybe there is hope for Michael, but you tell me why is it that the record Wasn't corrected.

00:50:39.000 Why is it that you would sit there and not tell the truth about how something was brought onto congressional record?

00:50:46.000 It wasn't confusing.

00:50:47.000 I showed him the document for the first time the night before.

00:50:50.000 I think that he needs to answer for that, not me.

00:50:53.000 And he has yet to do so.

00:50:55.000 So, again, I want to take this away from journalists competing and journalists having these issues.

00:51:02.000 I think the more fundamental issue here...

00:51:06.000 Unless you want to keep talking about it, I think, you know, I think kind of moving it away from that, we're all kind of in this together, Russell, and everybody has a role to play.

00:51:17.000 I think that we have to be honest, especially in journalism.

00:51:20.000 We have to correct the record.

00:51:21.000 That's what we do.

00:51:23.000 So I think that's important.

00:51:24.000 But what we're looking at here is somebody in Congress, Nancy Mace.

00:51:28.000 I mean, I walked into the office with the whistleblower to her months before.

00:51:34.000 So the fact she went on there, and maybe you're not hearing me, but they fabricated congressional record.

00:51:40.000 When I called out that there was a missing page, they uploaded a fake blank page on a congressional record.

00:51:47.000 To what degree?

00:51:48.000 Why?

00:51:49.000 Why would you do that?

00:51:50.000 That's kind of my question.

00:51:52.000 That's the big question, right?

00:51:53.000 I can only guess that what I told them and showed them that I could provide under oath to the American public is something they didn't want out.

00:52:04.000 And that most likely included really good footage of UAP, filmed by our military.

00:52:11.000 So you obviously know what the contents of the missing and later fabricated...

00:52:18.000 Is there a reason that we can't know?

00:52:21.000 It was nothing.

00:52:22.000 It was so weird.

00:52:23.000 It was just they asked me to write a cover page, an explanatory page to why I was submitting this rather than have the author there submitting it.

00:52:32.000 And that's what I did.

00:52:33.000 I wrote that cover page.

00:52:35.000 Also, at some point, I was going to testify.

00:52:37.000 That was part of the thing.

00:52:38.000 So I wrote in there, look, I'm willing to spill all the beans I have under oath in that setting with protections, with whistleblower protections.

00:52:45.000 I'm willing to do that as a journalist.

00:52:47.000 So it's not like the page itself was of the highest of value, other than it would obtain a custody issue, and it told them why this whistleblower wasn't there by face on their own, which is really important.

00:53:01.000 It's sad that there were fear tactics.

00:53:04.000 Put on individuals who just want to kind of spill the beans about the nature of reality.

00:53:08.000 I think all of us that are following the UFO and UAP phenomena and how it's reported on are in some way struggling to keep track.

00:53:16.000 Of the various strands and what the intention behind these strands might be.

00:53:22.000 In the lead up to Christmas and the New Year, the holiday season, it wasn't just festival lights that festooned the skies.

00:53:30.000 Drones were everywhere.

00:53:32.000 Drones above New Jersey.

00:53:34.000 Weird orbs.

00:53:35.000 I was looking at my social media feed and then even local news items where the governor of New Jersey was called up.

00:53:46.000 Colliding worlds that I was being asked to sort of hold.

00:53:49.000 Like, as someone that grew up on UFO literature, Eric Von Daniken, Timothy Good, George Knapp, you know, the names with which you are so familiar.

00:53:59.000 I was like, what?

00:54:00.000 Now we're suddenly seeing all these?

00:54:02.000 Like, this is on the local news now.

00:54:04.000 It's a bit like how I feel sometimes when I just see, like, regular news programs say, COVID was made in a lab.

00:54:12.000 As you've always known, if you watch the right media, now what I feel is, how are we not going to experience in the coming months, shock after shock, when it comes to our ontological perspective, because...

00:54:29.000 If we're going to have to deal with, OK, there's really advanced hardware, there's reverse engineering, there's the potential for massively increased military capacity and therefore warfare, there's the likelihood that all of the global superpowers, you know, let's just say for simplicity, the United States, China and Russia, rather than whatever bureaucratic...

00:54:51.000 Insidious interests might be puppeting those nations.

00:54:54.000 Like, that all of those have got relationships with extraterrestrial powers, and that the tech...

00:55:01.000 At some point, and I don't know how relevant the culture of extraterrestrials is, at some point we're going to have to ask, are they interdimensional?

00:55:09.000 Are they inter-temporal?

00:55:12.000 What is the origin and how does this impact our understanding of ourselves as human beings?

00:55:18.000 And the very deepest questions that we ask.

00:55:20.000 The rate of change is what's changed most of all.

00:55:23.000 Every single week or day, the rug is tugged from under us.

00:55:28.000 I was saying on one of our shows earlier this week, If you look at an ex for like 10 minutes, he's like, whoa, my God, fires, fighting, death, madness.

00:55:38.000 And then when you think...

00:55:39.000 When you're not looking at X, X is still happening.

00:55:43.000 It's like, whoa, my God, how much?

00:55:45.000 And all of the variations of X. I wonder if...

00:55:50.000 Now, here's a question for you, Jeremy.

00:55:52.000 It's likely that with now the levers of power being in hands, not only of populists and nationalists like Trump elected on a significant mandate, but...

00:56:05.000 Interesting and somewhat anomalous figures like RFK, the new head of the HHS, and some of his appointments that he's made there.

00:56:12.000 This means that we've got an unusual, I might say, in inverted commas, type of political power at the head of the United States of America.

00:56:23.000 Now, that's going to bring...

00:56:25.000 It's going to answer a lot of questions about what happens if you disrupt this new world order.

00:56:30.000 Have we put a stick in the spokes of this sort of globalist project that appeared to be unfolding under the auspices of the neoliberal left and wokeism?

00:56:39.000 And if now we're suddenly going to be inundated with big questions like, are UFOs real?

00:56:45.000 Is it possible that UFOs will be to Trump's 2025 presidency what COVID was to Trump's 2016-17 presidency, i.e.

00:56:57.000 A sudden and extraordinary, beyond national, inter-cosmological issue that's going to...

00:57:06.000 Demand a kind of reframing of the currently presumed political trajectory, which, if I can be reductive, would be the rise of nationalism across the world, inspired by the Magamaha movement, a kind of reformation of globalism, and a kind of new lexicon emerging out of that, and an attempt to sort of garner some popular appeal when they seem to have imploded dreadfully internationally.

00:57:29.000 What new sudden notions are we going to be expected to incorporate if...

00:57:34.000 UAPs and UFOs is to this presidency what COVID was to the last.

00:57:40.000 Yeah, like an intercosmological issue or whatever you said.

00:57:44.000 That's hilarious.

00:57:44.000 I love that.

00:57:46.000 What are the implications of this?

00:57:48.000 Well, first of all, a lot of people have great faith that in this new administration, we do have a shot at shaking shit up, at changing stuff.

00:57:57.000 You know, I see that optimism, which is very good.

00:58:00.000 It's great to have that optimism.

00:58:02.000 I do wonder and I do hope that on this issue, we get that.

00:58:07.000 However, just today, it's hilarious.

00:58:10.000 The Pentagon came out or the White House came out and said, The drone issue that you've been seeing for months.

00:58:15.000 I don't know if you've seen this yet, Russ, but it literally just dropped today.

00:58:18.000 I just saw it today.

00:58:20.000 They said it was our tech that we were serving.

00:58:24.000 They said the FAA told us so.

00:58:26.000 Now, I will tell you that is a direct lie.

00:58:29.000 But now that is the White House saying we figured it out.

00:58:33.000 We told you we'd tell you.

00:58:34.000 So here you go.

00:58:35.000 The FAA told us that everything everybody's been seeing, that that was just Our government assets, surveying, and hobbyists.

00:58:45.000 Now that's a problem because all the hope that people had, I know for a fact that is not true.

00:58:51.000 I talk with people in critical infrastructure who reach out to me and tell me the FAA has no idea.

00:58:59.000 There's actually communications between the FAA and these critical infrastructures being like these UFOs that are above our structures, our energy structures right now, they've been loitering for like seven hours.

00:59:08.000 They come up out of the water.

00:59:09.000 We don't know where they go.

00:59:11.000 So we've already just today been lied to about the nature of the UFO problem from this last swarm over New Jersey.

00:59:19.000 It really saddened me to see that today because I was hopeful too.

00:59:23.000 So I don't know.

00:59:24.000 Is it a spoke, like you said, in the wheel causing disruption?

00:59:29.000 Are we going to get ground truth on the UFO thing with this new administration?

00:59:33.000 I really...

00:59:34.000 Hope so.

00:59:35.000 We are positioned to have more truth about it, but it might be a secret that is too important to keep.

00:59:42.000 I just don't know.

00:59:44.000 But what happens?

00:59:45.000 What happens if all of this does start spilling out?

00:59:48.000 You're starting to see it, man.

00:59:50.000 There's whistleblowers coming out saying we have psionics programs to call in UFOs.

00:59:55.000 You know, we have videos being leaked that are supposed to be allegedly...

00:59:59.000 Crash retrieval programs.

01:00:01.000 So if this all is true, if this all starts coming out this way, then we're going to have to re-adapt to what it means to exist.

01:00:11.000 What are we part of?

01:00:12.000 Is this spiritual in nature and also physical?

01:00:16.000 Or is this simply like aliens from other planets?

01:00:19.000 It doesn't appear to be so.

01:00:20.000 It appears that whatever this is does have some link in some way to human consciousness, which is a trip if it's true.

01:00:29.000 Psionics, that's interesting.

01:00:30.000 I've never even heard that before.

01:00:32.000 Like, that's our ability to communicate telepathically.

01:00:37.000 Love it, yeah.

01:00:38.000 Unbelievable.

01:00:39.000 And crash retrieval.

01:00:41.000 The crash retrieval side of it, I don't like to think of these extraterrestrials as, like, being goofballs up there, like, they're crashing and, like, they're just us, like, in a few years.

01:00:51.000 I want them to be real kind of, like...

01:00:53.000 We have come to save you, type stuff.

01:00:56.000 Like Mr. Burns in that episode of Simpsons where he comes back and they think he's an extraterrestrial.

01:01:03.000 I don't want them to be like idiots.

01:01:06.000 I want them to be transcendent.

01:01:08.000 And as a new Christian, I'm also thinking, well, how does this relate to Scripture?

01:01:12.000 And as we've discussed before and as I continually bring up, whether it's Jacob's ladder or Ezekiel's wheel or the flaming sword at the gate of the Garden of Eden or depictions of surf.

01:01:23.000 Or the Nephilim or Sodom and Gomorrah.

01:01:27.000 There are so many biblical accounts that it's interesting because Scripture is...

01:01:33.000 Continually making different demands of its adherence.

01:01:37.000 Sometimes you've taken it literally, sometimes you're reading it poetically.

01:01:41.000 And when I introduce into that space, Jeremy, the idea of interdimensional, supernatural beings, for me, and it's hardly an original thought, I can't help but at least contemplate how do we bring this together.

01:01:56.000 Because I know what I thought when I was 16. I know that when I was 16, one of the things that...

01:02:02.000 I don't know if someone told me to think this or if I just thought in myself, oh wow, yeah, the Immaculate Conception.

01:02:08.000 Of course, if an extraterrestrial entity or angel, a representative of God, the creative force, came down and said, look, we're going to bring you sort of a saviour that's going to be our consciousness in material form.

01:02:22.000 Are you down with that?

01:02:23.000 And, you know, you've got to be pretty perfect to take that deal on.

01:02:27.000 And we're going to put another one in, your cousin, as well, to sort of, like, you know, prepare the way.

01:02:31.000 And he's going to be able to behave in ways that are beyond the limitations of the physical and spatial world, i.e.

01:02:37.000 space and time are not going to be relevant because you're not going to be dealing with Newtonian physics, which at that time would have been a far-flung dream.

01:02:44.000 Not for God, though, not for God.

01:02:45.000 But actually, kind of, sort of, something beyond even quantum physics that's beyond spatial and...

01:02:51.000 Temporal realities and alludes and refers to some kind of unitive field of reality that in a sense is synonymous with the idea of God anyway.

01:03:00.000 I mean, where this gets interesting for me is not the kind of corporeal-ness of an alien.

01:03:07.000 Like, so the idea of an alien autopsy interests me because I'd be like, oh wow, look, they've got kidneys.

01:03:12.000 But what interests me more is the idea of, you know, like the sort of, the sense you get, Jeremy, that you, surely like I, am pursuing that reality is not what you think it is.

01:03:27.000 And you feel it sometimes on the edge of dreams.

01:03:29.000 You feel it in moments of synchronicity.

01:03:32.000 You feel the presence of God.

01:03:34.000 And you're like, oh, wow, something's going on.

01:03:36.000 You have to sort of almost hold on.

01:03:37.000 I remember when I used to take acid when I was a kid.

01:03:40.000 I would feel like...

01:03:41.000 And I really connected that strongly with UFOs, by the way.

01:03:44.000 That time was very connected to my fascination with extraterrestrials and UFOs.

01:03:50.000 And I suppose you could just argue culturally, oh, well, you would be.

01:03:53.000 You were obviously some sort of little outsider, suburban kid, dropping acid, reading, sort of avant-garde literature and the internet of its day, which, of course, was pre-internet or at least popularised internet.

01:04:05.000 But I don't think it's that.

01:04:07.000 I think you're dealing with the same thing.

01:04:09.000 You're dealing with the uncanny, the nuministic.

01:04:13.000 You're dealing with ulterior or ultra realities.

01:04:18.000 Ultra realities, and that's what religion is doing, or any claim of absolute truth is saying, this is the beginning of reality.

01:04:28.000 This is the creator.

01:04:30.000 Of reality.

01:04:32.000 And the weird thing is, is that even if you don't think you're engaged in some esoteric idea of what is the nature of reality, whether that's UFOs or spirituality, say you're just a flat rationalist, you're still doing that.

01:04:43.000 Because you're saying, from now on, men and women do not exist.

01:04:47.000 You know, you're still doing the same.

01:04:49.000 From now on, we're all gonna wear this kind of...

01:04:53.000 We're gonna wear these hats now, and we're gonna use these words.

01:04:59.000 You're still, even though you're making...

01:05:00.000 You're making it boring.

01:05:01.000 You're banalizing it.

01:05:03.000 You're doing the same job of making an absolute claim about the nature of reality.

01:05:09.000 And I think, you know, and what I feel like, you know, what...

01:05:13.000 I used to say, sorry, I'll finish with this.

01:05:15.000 I recognise I've been talking too much.

01:05:16.000 I used to say, prior to becoming more sympathetic, say, with libertarian nationalist movements, for some reasons that were pragmatic and for others because I'd been sort of persuaded, I suppose, I used to sort of say, who cares?

01:05:30.000 What's the difference between Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump?

01:05:33.000 So I'm saying this in 2015, say.

01:05:35.000 Who cares?

01:05:36.000 That's not enough of a difference.

01:05:37.000 We could be in some intergalactic epiphany of understanding the Yeah, I mean, I think clearly that is the case right now.

01:06:02.000 And what I like about having discussions with you, let's move away.

01:06:07.000 Let's move away from UFOs for a minute.

01:06:09.000 Like, if we're talking about UFOs, well...

01:06:11.000 There's something that pilot lets them.

01:06:14.000 There's something that created them.

01:06:15.000 That's the bigger question.

01:06:17.000 The bigger question really is non-human intelligence.

01:06:21.000 And I think that's where you get kind of the expanded idea.

01:06:24.000 Non-human intelligence has been a part of human culture with every culture through all time.

01:06:31.000 You call them angels.

01:06:32.000 You call them demons.

01:06:33.000 You call them extraterrestrials, light beings.

01:06:36.000 I don't care.

01:06:36.000 You take some LSD or some ayahuasca and you have teachers.

01:06:40.000 I've heard it all.

01:06:41.000 The point is, it's non-human intelligence.

01:06:44.000 That is what humanity has always been kind of engaging with, whether it be UFOs or not.

01:06:49.000 The core nature of that, I don't really know.

01:06:52.000 But you're right.

01:06:52.000 In our conversations and kind of our passion and interest is, where are we really sitting?

01:06:58.000 Like, what are the boundaries, the false boundaries that we put up for ourselves in the human existence?

01:07:05.000 And that, to me...

01:07:07.000 Is the core.

01:07:08.000 It is the most fascinating element.

01:07:10.000 It's probably why I love the UFO thing, because there's some tangibility to it.

01:07:15.000 When other people talk about this being contacted by non-human intelligence, there's no tangibility.

01:07:20.000 I can't grab it.

01:07:21.000 I can't look at it.

01:07:22.000 I can't reverse engineer it.

01:07:24.000 I can't touch it.

01:07:25.000 So the materialist in me says, I might have grabbed on to UFOs because there feels that there's a lie, and lies are important to uncover.

01:07:34.000 And it feels like there's a tangible physical aspect that could prove that to us in our materialistic mind.

01:07:41.000 But really the question is much bigger.

01:07:45.000 The question is, you know, what do we learn from this?

01:07:48.000 Are we part of a bigger tapestry?

01:07:50.000 Does that bigger tapestry connect us to other intelligence, other beings, other ways of seeing the world?

01:07:58.000 And we are being bombarded.

01:07:59.000 We are being absolutely 100% bombarded with A critical amount of information at all times from everywhere right now.

01:08:09.000 And I think it's going to require some discipline from us to take a step back, take a deep breath, move out of the human Shakespearean drama, and try to understand a little bit more about what it is that we're seeing go down in mass media and popular culture when it comes to these non-human intelligence ideas.

01:08:29.000 Because that's what we're learning about right now.

01:08:32.000 UFOs are real.

01:08:33.000 So there's something behind it.

01:08:35.000 It's a good way of framing it, Shakespearean drama, because in Shakespeare the referent is kind of a Hellenistic model of the emotions are the ultimate resource.

01:08:47.000 So it's going to be like Othello for jealousy, Macbeth for overreaching ambition, Hamlet for ontological indecision.

01:08:59.000 But we're saying that the palette of human emotion Maybe incomplete.

01:09:04.000 Now, I'm a new convert to Christianity.

01:09:07.000 That means I repent of my sins and I turn to Jesus Christ as my Master and my Lord and as my salvation.

01:09:16.000 Also, it means that I believe in the rapture, that Christ is going to return.

01:09:22.000 And the kingdom of heaven and the kingdom of earth are going to spectacularly merge and create a new kingdom, and that there's going to be some process of separation between good and evil, in inverted commas.

01:09:33.000 Now, it's impossible to imagine that when that happens, that's not going to include...

01:09:44.000 New information and new interpretations.

01:09:47.000 So even if you are an absolute Christian, like an Orthodox Christian or a Roman Catholic, I'm not suggesting that other expressions of Christianity are lesser than that, just newer, I suppose.

01:09:58.000 But even if that were, even if you are ardent, ardent, like what they call the militia immaculata, that's a hardcore Catholic sect.

01:10:07.000 You would have to accept that when that happens, the kingdom of heaven and earth merge, whatever that's going to be, it's not going to be something we understand yet.

01:10:19.000 And it's not going to be something that can be entirely contained within Scripture, is it?

01:10:24.000 I mean, like, you know, I'm obviously talking specifically about Revelation now, as well as passages from Daniel and Isaiah and Ezekiel that talk about, like, sort of the apocalyptic event, and obviously it's only post-Christ that this is a sort of a redeeming event that includes salvation and the promise of...

01:10:43.000 Eternal life.

01:10:44.000 And again, we're back to that, you know, denial or at least overcoming of space and time, Jeremy, which, you know, is the main thing.

01:10:51.000 That's your old school Bob Lazar.

01:10:54.000 Well, they seem to be able to move, you know, sort of just like actually, oh, wow, hold on a minute.

01:10:59.000 That's beyond space and time.

01:11:00.000 That's beyond space and time.

01:11:02.000 That's a pledge and a promise.

01:11:04.000 So I'm really fascinated by...

01:11:07.000 You know, like if you, when you look at Revelations and it says sort of trumpets and seals and the lamb and the lion and all these entities and a thousand years and Satan and the beast and the Antichrist, I mean, it does sort of really sound like somehow you could go, oh yeah, man, like you'd be able to sort of watch that happening and it to sort of somehow be...

01:11:31.000 Somehow inclusive of the general framing of our conversation, and I hope not heretical or blasphemous, because what would it be like for that to be actualised?

01:11:41.000 Because it's talking about, you know, the thing is with Christianity, it's not like Buddhism, of like, yeah, yeah, there's a sort of a oneness and reincarnation, or Hinduism, an endless pantheon.

01:11:50.000 It's like, no, you're going to have a body.

01:11:52.000 You're going to have a body.

01:11:53.000 You're going to be walking around.

01:11:54.000 Christ came back and he ate some fish.

01:11:56.000 So I'm like, man, I'm like really trying to...

01:11:59.000 Wrap my head around quite a lot this morning, Jeremy, and I wonder where you land with that.

01:12:07.000 Yeah, you know, I honestly, I don't know.

01:12:11.000 Any of these things are possible.

01:12:13.000 You're much more qualified to tell me by reading and studying this kind of thing, and you're a convert to Christianity.

01:12:18.000 You know, I don't know.

01:12:20.000 There are a lot of people that agree with that and agree with you.

01:12:23.000 I'm kind of like...

01:12:25.000 From the position where I'm just excited to see what happens, we're definitely in a time of extreme change, and that's an exciting time to be alive.

01:12:33.000 I don't have the answers.

01:12:35.000 I don't know.

01:12:36.000 I'm just one of those people, I don't know.

01:12:38.000 I don't know what you call that.

01:12:39.000 I don't know.

01:12:40.000 And that's, for me, kind of a fun place to be, because I pass no judgment on the way that people see the world.

01:12:49.000 I try to understand it.

01:12:50.000 Maybe something will click with me later.

01:12:53.000 I guess it's agnostic.

01:12:54.000 It's kind of agnosticism and the spirit of investigation.

01:12:59.000 And I once...

01:13:00.000 One of the things that really affected me, a conversation I guess I had, was with Whitney Webb on this show.

01:13:07.000 And I was talking about, like, I was like, oh, man, like, as time goes on, like, even with all the crazy stuff they've said, David Icke...

01:13:16.000 And Alex Jones are giving you a better kind of overall perspective on reality than the New York Times and the BBC. What are we supposed to do with that?

01:13:27.000 And she sort of said, well, the problem is with, you know, not problem, she said, well, she said it so elegantly without offending anyone.

01:13:34.000 I don't know how she did it.

01:13:35.000 It's a very brilliant piece of language, actually.

01:13:37.000 She sort of said...

01:13:38.000 Like, with Alex Jones, you have to look at some of the things that are difficult to corroborate.

01:13:43.000 And I suppose some things Alex Jones has said, like, famously, there's meme after meme celebrating Alex Jones was right, list of all the things Alex Jones was right about.

01:13:52.000 And you can see, if you look at him on X, David Icke just lives in a continual sort of rage about, I've been telling you this for ages.

01:14:01.000 But it must be frustrating.

01:14:06.000 And I suppose, like, with someone like, you know, the difference we seem to be describing right now with you saying you're agnostic is you're continually engaging with whistleblowers on a very particular issue, albeit an enormous one, and going, oh, wow, so we can prove that.

01:14:18.000 Oh, they're not telling the truth there.

01:14:20.000 Well, that looks like that's using this kind of propulsion system.

01:14:22.000 And these documents suggest we're being lied to.

01:14:24.000 And why have they redacted that?

01:14:26.000 And why didn't they admit to that?

01:14:27.000 And how come that happened?

01:14:28.000 Whereas me, I'm, like, for me, it's like these...

01:14:34.000 Unfolding waves of heavenly rapture where I receive the silhouette of Christ in my solar plexus as a kind of geometric affirmation of his sacrifice being the establishment of a hitherto inaccessible frequency.

01:14:55.000 And as Whitney Webb might say, that's very difficult to corroborate.

01:15:02.000 It's always our friends that are gonna call us out, right?

01:15:05.000 No, but listen, I don't know if that word is really, you know, just to be clear, I don't know if I'm agnostic.

01:15:12.000 You know, I've always lived with a sense of purpose.

01:15:15.000 I feel...

01:15:16.000 And if I'm going to speak kind of plainly, I've always felt protected and directed, like there's a kind of strong current that runs through me.

01:15:25.000 And if I just get out of my own way and grab onto it, then I'm there for the ride, man.

01:15:30.000 And so to me, that is a sense of spirituality, I guess you would say, is I absolutely feel...

01:15:37.000 Directed and that there is a current that runs through me.

01:15:41.000 And if I stop thinking and making it all about the materialist rationalism that I'm kind of predisposed to, there's something beautiful and powerful about taking that ride, acknowledging it, telling the truth.

01:15:57.000 It's a path of discovery.

01:15:58.000 So I wouldn't say I'm agnostic because I don't know what that word means.

01:16:02.000 I would just say that I haven't found the words to articulate that aspect of my experience yet, but I can see when other people have.

01:16:11.000 It's like an acknowledgement that they're willing to sacrifice their own sense of ego to see where this can take them, not where they want it to go.

01:16:22.000 Thy will, not mine, be done, Lord.

01:16:25.000 We can check out Jeremy's new podcast, well, ongoing podcast, Weaponized, as well as his new three-part documentary, UFO Revolution, for free on Tubi.

01:16:34.000 There's a link in the description for how you can find that.

01:16:39.000 Jeremy, it's always amazing to talk to you.

01:16:41.000 I've come to the conclusion I'd hate to do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu with you.

01:16:44.000 I feel like you're probably pretty good.

01:16:45.000 How many times a week are you rolling?

01:16:47.000 You can keep believing that because it feels good that you're afraid of me, but I stopped training 25 years ago, man, and I did traditional jiu-jitsu, boxing, wrestling, judo, all that.

01:16:57.000 I was never, you know, doing just Brazilian jiu-jitsu, so I think you're safe, Russell.

01:17:02.000 I think, you know, you might have an edge.

01:17:04.000 I got a lot of back pain.

01:17:06.000 Ah, good, good.

01:17:07.000 The back pain might be my advantage because I didn't like hearing about those strikes that you might have access to there.

01:17:13.000 I was like, oh no, he's got all of those things.

01:17:14.000 Even the 25 years off, you know, I'm just getting back into rolling again.

01:17:18.000 Jeremy, thanks, man.

01:17:18.000 Thanks for joining us for this conversation.

01:17:21.000 Yeah, always a pleasure to talk with you, Russ.

01:17:23.000 I love the way that you inspire kind of the thoughts about other people and the work they're doing.

01:17:28.000 It is inspiring to hear your perspective on stuff.

01:17:31.000 So thanks for doing your show.

01:17:32.000 Thanks for having me, man.

01:17:33.000 Thank you, Jeremy.

01:17:34.000 And thank you for joining us on our show today.

01:17:37.000 It's going to be a fantastic week.

01:17:39.000 We've got Wesley Huff on Break Bread tomorrow.

01:17:41.000 You surely saw him on Joe Rogan.

01:17:44.000 It's a fantastic conversation.

01:17:45.000 You'll love it.

01:17:46.000 Make sure you join us either by becoming a member of Rumble Premium.

01:17:50.000 Or following me on Locals and becoming a member of our community there.

01:17:54.000 We'll be back tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - February 02, 2025

UFOs, Whistleblowers, and Government Lies – The Truth with Jeremy Corbell – SF530

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