Stay Free - Russel Brand - Ukraine & The New World Order - #065 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

00:00:00.000 So, we're going to go ahead and start the video. So, let's get started.

00:00:07.000 So, let's get started.

00:01:13.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:01:25.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders, you glorious fascists that believe nothing more than all people will be equal and allowed to become who they truly are regardless of their culture or their race, that all people should be free, that we deserve individual freedom and community democracy, that centralised establishment thinking has robbed us of our freedoms, and these freedoms must be returned to us.

00:01:47.000 And we can do it!

00:01:49.000 Don't let them drain the hope out of you, wherever you are, whoever you're from.

00:01:53.000 Recognise that the old ideas are melting away and the new thing is being born.

00:01:58.000 Being born from us, in this very moment.

00:02:01.000 We're live on YouTube and on Twitter, just for 10 minutes, then we flip over so that we're just on Rumble, which is our exclusive home, and we can say what we want over there.

00:02:10.000 But we don't use freedom of speech to create division, instead we use it to create unity, to critique establishment power.

00:02:17.000 To point out that the old language is dying, that to talk of left and right in a world where Bernie Sanders is writing for Fox News, where Noam Chomsky is saying that Trump is one of the only vocal war critics, these are redundant labels, redundant terms.

00:02:32.000 The world hasn't caught up with the changes of the last 10, 15 years.

00:02:36.000 We've got to catch up fast though, because Armageddon is a-coming.

00:02:41.000 We've got lots of things to tell you about.

00:02:42.000 Lindsey Graham is advocating for sending tanks into Ukraine.

00:02:46.000 Boris Johnson's in Ukraine, chatting to Zelensky, being all sycophantic and nuts. 1.00

00:02:52.000 We've got a deep, deep presentation about taking, like, the weapons industry, using Ukraine as a kind of testing lab. 0.91

00:02:59.000 It's brilliant, you'll love it.

00:03:00.000 I mean, it's not brilliant, really, it's devastating and awful.

00:03:03.000 And we've got the first Amazon labor union, not labia. 0.77

00:03:07.000 No.

00:03:08.000 They're selling those now?

00:03:09.000 Amazon is selling labia.

00:03:11.000 What, will they stop at nothing to get it on Prime? 0.96

00:03:17.000 That's true, of course you have to be a subscriber to get the inner vulva.

00:03:21.000 Yeah, Christian Smalls is the first Amazon Labour Union leader.

00:03:27.000 But should we have a quick look at the, like, apparently we're closer to Armageddon than ever before, Gareth.

00:03:33.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:03:34.000 Do you know that there's an organisation?

00:03:35.000 Did you know this?

00:03:36.000 Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments, let me know on whatever social media platform you're currently watching us on.

00:03:40.000 There's like an organisation that are dedicated to sort of counting down to Armageddon.

00:03:45.000 They're a weird little tribe.

00:03:45.000 Yeah.

00:03:47.000 Have a look at them.

00:03:48.000 There could be a nuclear war.

00:03:50.000 Now let's have a look at this weird doomsday clock thing and look at the acolytes that are around it. 0.97

00:03:55.000 They're a crazy little crew.

00:03:57.000 The members of the Science and Security Board move the hands of the Doomsday Clock forward.

00:04:03.000 Largely, though not exclusively... Who are they, these people?

00:04:06.000 And how have they met?

00:04:07.000 And what is going on with them all?

00:04:10.000 They're an odd assortment, aren't they?

00:04:12.000 How have they met each other?

00:04:13.000 I think they're atomic scientists, or at least it was set up by atomic scientists in 1947, apparently.

00:04:19.000 Because this is an extraordinary collection of garments available.

00:04:23.000 If you look at the distinction between that lady's sort of somewhat eastern seeming satin jacket and that man's canvas-y trainers.

00:04:31.000 Yeah.

00:04:31.000 What's going on?

00:04:32.000 It looks like, or most of it looks like this could have been shot 20 or 30 years ago.

00:04:37.000 I guess scientists aren't necessarily... What, they're not cool?

00:04:40.000 Maybe not.

00:04:41.000 Maybe they don't have one of these, for example.

00:04:42.000 They're not going to be wearing a lovely cool gilet like you, Gareth, strobing away on the internet.

00:04:48.000 What I don't like about this Armageddon countdown is the sort of pious grandiosity of it.

00:04:54.000 The sort of earnestness of it.

00:04:55.000 I don't like that it looks like there's a harp under there.

00:04:57.000 Right, and now the end of the world!

00:05:02.000 Let's have a look what is under that rather cheap piece of tarpaulin.

00:05:07.000 Because of the mounting dangers in the war in Ukraine.

00:05:11.000 We move the clock forward the closest it has ever been to midnight.

00:05:16.000 It is now 90 seconds to midnight.

00:05:22.000 You could have just said this 90 seconds to midnight.

00:05:24.000 Come on Eileen! 1.00

00:05:28.000 Why come on Eileen? 1.00

00:05:29.000 I don't know, it looks like something you'd do at New Year's or something.

00:05:33.000 Come on Eileen isn't integrally connected. 0.94

00:05:35.000 Do you not do that at New Year's?

00:05:37.000 No, at Auld Lang Syne.

00:05:38.000 That's the one, yeah.

00:05:39.000 Come on Eileen can be played all year.

00:05:42.000 Yeah, it's a wedding classic.

00:05:43.000 Yeah, of course it is.

00:05:45.000 I mean, Dexys Midnight Runners, they're a lovely bunch.

00:05:48.000 Why are they only down a quarter of the clock?

00:05:50.000 I don't know.

00:05:50.000 It's strange.

00:05:51.000 Also, why?

00:05:51.000 So it says here they set up the clock to provide a simple way of showing the danger to the earth and humanity posed by nuclear Armageddon.

00:05:58.000 It isn't simple though, is it?

00:05:59.000 It's abstract in so many ways.

00:06:01.000 It's abstract that they've only shown a quarter of a clock, these grey dots, and it isn't actually 90 seconds.

00:06:07.000 The whole concept of turning all of the history of our planet into a day, is it that thing?

00:06:12.000 Do you know that if all human history was just a day, then people only appeared at 5 past 10?

00:06:19.000 It's a weird system.

00:06:21.000 I know.

00:06:22.000 Apparently it's never been more than 10 minutes before midnight.

00:06:27.000 Why do you need a whole clock then?

00:06:28.000 Don't need a whole clock.

00:06:29.000 No.

00:06:30.000 Just have that 10 minutes as 24 hours.

00:06:32.000 Yeah.

00:06:33.000 I don't know.

00:06:35.000 There'd be an odd combination of like sort of really data-oriented, reserved and rational and then sort of hysterically grandiose.

00:06:44.000 It's a really odd conglomeration of ideas.

00:06:48.000 But this is the way the world is these days.

00:06:51.000 As you know, there are continuing revelations around Joe Biden and his endless files that

00:06:56.000 he keeps all over his house.

00:06:57.000 You'd have thought he'd have sniffed them out.

00:06:58.000 They should spray him with whatever hairspray 10-year-old kids use.

00:07:02.000 He'd have sniffed them out in an instant.

00:07:04.000 Let's have a look at the mainstream media, still desperately keen to make a clear distinction

00:07:08.000 between Trump having classified documents in his house and Biden having classified documents

00:07:14.000 in his various residencies.

00:07:17.000 And just so you know this, I don't advocate for any establishment political party, Republicans, Democrats, whichever, whatever.

00:07:25.000 I believe in community democracy, actual democracy, individual freedom, radical change, new revelatory visions being introduced and discussed on this platform right now.

00:07:36.000 After we flick over to being just on Rumble in a second, we're going to have a fantastic guest, Amazon union leader, and we'll dive a little deeply into some stories that would be contentious on the platforms we're currently on like YouTube and Twitter.

00:07:48.000 Let's have a look at the mainstream media continuing to justify Biden having these classified documents.

00:07:57.000 Lawrence, I'm sure you agree with me on this point.

00:08:00.000 The fact that Joe Biden has documents, the fact that he opened up his house, and it's nothing like so far, nothing like the Trump document case, that shouldn't confuse I suppose that what the mainstream media has to do is continually suggest that there are meaningful and significant differences between the two potential parties that you could vote for.

00:08:24.000 Because it's not nothing like it, is it?

00:08:26.000 Where it says that it's nothing like the Trump case.

00:08:28.000 It is quite a lot like it.

00:08:29.000 It's classified documents in someone's house that they shouldn't have.

00:08:32.000 Generally, it's not like Biden's got classified documents and Trump ate a frog.

00:08:37.000 They're generally in the same neighbourhood.

00:08:39.000 They're in the same ballpark, aren't they?

00:08:41.000 Yeah, I would say so.

00:08:43.000 He says Trump's a lively debate within a small framework to sort of stop you thinking, Oh my god, we could change everything actually, there's no

00:08:52.000 reason at all why we should have all these centralised authoritarian structures that prohibit

00:08:56.000 our freedom and ultimately serve corporate globalism.

00:09:00.000 Eric Garland, that shouldn't confuse the DOJ.

00:09:04.000 They should still be able to hold these two separate cases in separate silos and still...

00:09:10.000 I was on that show.

00:09:11.000 I know.

00:09:12.000 He wasn't there that day.

00:09:13.000 That lady was there. 1.00

00:09:14.000 That's right.

00:09:15.000 He's Joe, isn't he?

00:09:16.000 He's Joe himself.

00:09:17.000 They were a bit cheeky to us.

00:09:19.000 They were.

00:09:20.000 They kept saying your name wrong.

00:09:22.000 Yeah, one of them said my name wrong and they kept trying to knock me off.

00:09:24.000 They said Willy Brand.

00:09:25.000 But old Russ was more than equal to the situation.

00:09:27.000 Why Willy Brand?

00:09:28.000 I think he was a Chancellor.

00:09:30.000 Oh, OK.

00:09:31.000 Yeah, you didn't like that, but you showed them, didn't you?

00:09:33.000 Yeah, it was really cool.

00:09:36.000 Look, they have the White House framed between them to show their proximity to power.

00:09:41.000 I don't think they're that close to the White House.

00:09:43.000 Yeah.

00:09:45.000 Martin Goury, who's coming on our show on Friday, is a former CIA agent, and he talks about in his book, and will be talking to us, about how the problems that we have now is our Old systems of analysis and our old taxonomies have died.

00:10:02.000 Left and right are no longer relevant terms because what you have is centralized power and peripheral dissent.

00:10:10.000 And I suppose that's why the culture war is continuing to gain momentum as the territory 0.60

00:10:15.000 that still belongs to conventional left-right arguments has to be occupied and made ever

00:10:20.000 more incendiary and seemingly significant.

00:10:23.000 But I know people that have very traditional views and very progressive views, and generally

00:10:27.000 speaking people wouldn't mind what people do in their own lives as long as they're allowed

00:10:33.000 to, as long as there's a kind of a consensus that we leave each other alone.

00:10:37.000 So the continual stoking of these cultural differences and cultural conflicts is one way that we are prevented from forming necessary unions.

00:10:46.000 And that's one of the things I'm going to talk to Christian Smalls about, about the necessity not only of workplace unions at an organization like Amazon, but different types of community, people finding new ways to come together, which is going to be necessary because I don't know if you've seen the news, it's 10 seconds till midnight dead o'clock.

00:11:02.000 Mmm.

00:11:02.000 Ten seconds to nuclear armageddon on the little grey quarter of a trivial pursuit piece.

00:11:08.000 Dead.

00:11:08.000 But let's not ever discuss why we might be at that point.

00:11:11.000 The fact that Russia are saying if we lose in Ukraine and you keep on ramping things up.

00:11:16.000 Yeah, let's not look at that.

00:11:17.000 Why are we not discussing more openly that Russia have explicitly said, stop winding us up or we're gonna blow up the whole planet.

00:11:25.000 Like, of course the suffering of Ukrainian people has to be ameliorated, mitigated, wherever possible. 1.00

00:11:34.000 The humanitarian effort must not stop.

00:11:36.000 I think we should offer our studio up to refugees.

00:11:41.000 Right.

00:11:41.000 I really do.

00:11:42.000 Why are you just saying right like that?

00:11:43.000 You think they might try and get inside your g-lay? 0.96

00:11:46.000 Is that what concerns you?

00:11:47.000 I'll be wearing it.

00:11:48.000 They've got no chance, have they?

00:11:52.000 Here's that story about Bernie Sanders writing on Fox News.

00:11:58.000 If alliances are forming between presumed right-wing organisations like Fox, And an avowedly left-wing politician like Bernie Sanders, it supports Martin Goury's idea that there is the centre and the periphery and essentially Tucker Carlson and Bernie Sanders are meeting round the back.

00:12:16.000 Yeah, also I think, you know, it shows that, like, you have to be open to... I mean, there's that phrase about the left and right that you were talking about earlier, Ross.

00:12:25.000 What bit, mate?

00:12:26.000 You know, the left and right.

00:12:27.000 You were very... Oh, OK, I'll do it now.

00:12:29.000 The left looks for traitors, the right looks for converts.

00:12:32.000 But the left is continually... I mean, you're not left-wing enough, you're not left-wing enough.

00:12:32.000 Right.

00:12:36.000 I believe in social equality, I believe in justice, community justice, the right to express yourself freely, but you have to afford that to your opponents, which doesn't mean anything at all.

00:12:46.000 Shall we have a look at Boris Johnson visiting Ukraine?

00:12:49.000 I think when this trip was set up, Boris Johnson was a more relevant political figure.

00:12:53.000 If you're watching this now on Twitter or YouTube, we're coming off those platforms in a minute and once we're on the other side of the line we'll be talking more explicitly about what we believe to be the military-industrial complex and the financial industry's involvement in Ukraine, the project to reconstruct Ukraine.

00:13:10.000 Also, we're going to be talking to Christian Smalls, Amazon leader.

00:13:14.000 And by God, I'm going to be crossing some lines.

00:13:16.000 We've got some good WEF, Tony Blair, globalist stuff as well.

00:13:20.000 So join us.

00:13:21.000 It's just there's a link in the description.

00:13:23.000 You can click and you can watch us uncensored.

00:13:25.000 And remember, we use freedom of speech to bring people together, not to drive people apart.

00:13:28.000 We've got no business in that game.

00:13:30.000 There's no time for it.

00:13:31.000 It's five seconds to Armageddon, according to the grey, dull Tomorrow's World Clock of Open University.

00:13:38.000 Let's have a look at Boris Johnson.

00:13:40.000 Two prime ministers old already in Ukraine sucking up to Zelensky.

00:13:46.000 Something chronic.

00:13:47.000 Well, I can tell you that the UK will be sticking by Ukraine for as long as it takes. 0.95

00:13:53.000 How can he tell us that?

00:13:54.000 Because, as a matter of fact, he's got no mandate.

00:13:56.000 He's just like a... Not anymore.

00:13:59.000 Unless he does.

00:13:59.000 I mean, what kind of powers does he have?

00:14:01.000 What kind of power does he have?

00:14:02.000 Right.

00:14:03.000 Possibly what he sits on boards of things.

00:14:05.000 Well, maybe even within the government.

00:14:06.000 Who knows?

00:14:07.000 You know, there's an idea that they want him back, aren't there?

00:14:09.000 A certain faction of the Tory party want Boris back.

00:14:12.000 Who knows?

00:14:14.000 You are going to win and you're going to get all the Russians out of your country, but we will be there for the long term. 1.00

00:14:22.000 And we will also want to be helping you to reconstruct.

00:14:26.000 Reconstruct, you say?

00:14:26.000 Oh!

00:14:28.000 Might be a few quid in there, I wonder.

00:14:31.000 Okay, mate, what we're going to look at now, Lindsey Graham wanting to send these tanks, I don't want to dive into that kind of stuff, it's absolute craziness.

00:14:39.000 Why do people keep putting 30 seconds up on that screen?

00:14:41.000 I don't know, but the Lindsey Graham thing is interesting because he's talking about the world order is at stake.

00:14:47.000 What he's saying, I mean he's being very vocal about wanting Vladimir Putin to be killed and we need to send tanks into Ukraine because the The world order is at stake.

00:14:54.000 And when you've got Boris Johnson saying things like, we're going to help reconstruct Ukraine in the same way that Blackrock, we know Blackrock are involved with Zelensky in doing the same thing.

00:15:04.000 You've got to wonder about this reconstruction of Ukraine and the new world order even. 0.74

00:15:09.000 You know, one that doesn't, you know, in which Russia is severely impeded.

00:15:16.000 I suppose what a lot of people believe, and often these people are condemned as conspiracy theorists, is that this conflict is about draining Russia of resources in order to create a unipolar world, and that after this conflict, agitation between the US and China will increase around the issue of Taiwan.

00:15:37.000 Let me know in the comments, let me know in the chat if that's the way you think things are Going down.

00:15:44.000 Just in case you weren't terrified enough at the sight of that clock counting you down into oblivion, it's time now for our item, Everything's Fine.

00:15:53.000 Check it.

00:15:54.000 Eminem's just getting rid of them little sweeties. 1.00

00:16:02.000 Yeah.

00:16:02.000 Have a look.

00:16:04.000 Well, there is a big change in the works for M&M's, at least to the M&M's commercials.

00:16:09.000 They're marketing.

00:16:10.000 Okay, so here's what we're talking about.

00:16:11.000 The brand just announced on Twitter they will no longer have the little spokes candies.

00:16:17.000 You know, those guys at the bottom of your screen?

00:16:19.000 That's right.

00:16:20.000 The red, yellow M&M's.

00:16:21.000 Them, like, M&M candies have had so much attention over the years.

00:16:26.000 Like, this is, I suppose, what the power of marketing can be, is symbolised by this.

00:16:33.000 Because it is just some sugar and just some chocolate.

00:16:36.000 They're not actual little people.

00:16:38.000 Their views are not important.

00:16:40.000 No.

00:16:41.000 They don't matter if there's a... They're too prominent, aren't they?

00:16:43.000 Like, why have they even got them shops in every significant city in the world?

00:16:47.000 Like, there's probably one in Tokyo.

00:16:48.000 I know there's one in New York.

00:16:49.000 There's one in London.

00:16:50.000 They're too high in the cultural mix as well.

00:16:52.000 I mean, I guess what it shows is, at this time where we're saying, you know, Bernie Sanders can go on Fox News or, you know, the right can vote for, you know, demilitarization, and then you get these kind of culture wars popping up around M&Ms.

00:17:07.000 It just shows what a bizarre kind of space we're in at the moment.

00:17:11.000 Yeah, we're sort of on the precipice of something nihilistic and terrifying, I would argue.

00:17:16.000 That's pretty clear evidence of that.

00:17:18.000 Should we have a look at that presentation that we made, Gav, about how the military-industrial complex are using Ukraine to test new weapons potentially for a future conflict and demonstrate how the mainstream media are promoting literal brands. Yeah. You know, Rafie and Lockheed

00:17:39.000 Martin. See if you can spot the there's an actual sort of product placement in the news.

00:17:45.000 Time now for our item. Here's the news. No, here's the effing news.

00:17:51.000 After the war, BlackRock get to profit from rebuilding Ukraine.

00:18:01.000 But we're still in the war now, so who's going to profit?

00:18:03.000 It's the weapons industry.

00:18:04.000 The mainstream media have admitted that Ukraine is a weapons lab for the West.

00:18:10.000 They sound better than that when they explode.

00:18:11.000 These weapons are brilliant.

00:18:14.000 Today's story is about the Ukraine being used as a weapons lab.

00:18:19.000 Essentially, many of the weapons that are being sent by the US military-industrial complex are being trialed for a future conflict.

00:18:25.000 Oh, that'll be good!

00:18:26.000 So if we don't die in Armageddon as a result of this proxy war between America and Russia, we can die in the actual war between America and China.

00:18:33.000 Phew! 1.00

00:18:33.000 Something to look forward to. 1.00

00:18:34.000 forward to then.

00:19:01.000 Normally, we like to bomb people who don't have any weapons at all. 0.99

00:19:03.000 Bomb a terrorist, bomb a wedding, bomb two weddings, do another terrorist in a minute.

00:19:07.000 So this, in a sense, is very legitimately a real opportunity to trial these weapons.

00:19:13.000 Ukraine has become a testing ground for state-of-the-art weapons and information systems and new ways to use them that Western political officials and military commanders predict could shape warfare for generations to come.

00:19:25.000 The problem is there won't be generations to come if we keep provoking former and actual superpowers. Russia, yeah, they've been on decline since 0.86

00:19:32.000 the Soviet Union when we made that deal with them not to infringe on former Soviet Union

00:19:36.000 territories. Let's provoke them. China, they're probably not that hard, but why take my word for it? 1.00

00:19:41.000 I have after all got this hat on. Let's listen to the Ukrainian Minister of Defense.

00:19:45.000 He surely knows something about Ukrainian defense and how it's being ministered.

00:19:49.000 We are carrying out NATO's mission today. 1.00

00:19:51.000 This guy's a fucking liability, by the way. 0.99

00:19:53.000 He keeps turning up on television going, yeah, of course it is a proxy war. 1.00

00:19:56.000 Yeah, we're testing weapons.

00:19:57.000 You're saying that Ukraine is de facto NATO member?

00:20:00.000 It's true.

00:20:01.000 It's a fact.

00:20:02.000 He's going to get a phone call from Zelensky.

00:20:07.000 We carry out the mission of NATO today without the loss of their blood, with the loss of our blood.

00:20:11.000 Wow.

00:20:12.000 So there is a pact.

00:20:12.000 Because wars like Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan became unpopular because America doesn't like to see its children coming home dead, there's now an agreement.

00:20:21.000 Outsource the conflict in order to confront opponents but without the bad PR of the loss of American lives.

00:20:28.000 Okay.

00:20:29.000 And also, look, it is the mission of NATO.

00:20:31.000 Explicitly crazy.

00:20:32.000 This is the Ukrainian Minister of Defense.

00:20:33.000 This is not a guy of the equivalent of Infowars in Ukraine.

00:20:37.000 He's from the government.

00:20:40.000 Because they need to spend their weapons.

00:20:42.000 So there you are.

00:20:43.000 I mean, you can tell me whether you think that's conspiracy theory or not.

00:20:46.000 If it is a conspiracy theory, it's a conspiracy theory that emerges from the heart of Ukrainian government.

00:20:50.000 Ukraine's Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Digital Transformation says,

00:20:54.000 Ukraine is the best test ground as we have the opportunity to test all hypotheses in battle

00:20:59.000 and introduce revolutionary change in military tech and modern welfare, said Mikhail Fedorov.

00:21:03.000 So in a sense, there are mutual interests.

00:21:06.000 America benefits from being able to provoke and potentially drain Russia. 0.85

00:21:11.000 NATO benefits from this new alliance.

00:21:13.000 Ukraine benefits because they are opponents to Russia and Russia has invaded them, whatever the circumstances of that invasion were, and they are now able to fight at at a level that is not representative of their military or

00:21:24.000 economic power or standing in the geopolitical landscape. So everyone is benefiting from

00:21:29.000 this, except potentially everyone if there's a nuclear war.

00:21:32.000 The use of remote-controlled boats could become particularly important, military experts said,

00:21:36.000 showing how warfare at sea might play out as the United States and its allies brace

00:21:40.000 for potential future naval aggressions by China in the east and South China Seas and

00:21:45.000 against Taiwan.

00:21:46.000 Really, wouldn't you prefer a world in which diplomatic solutions were being sought by

00:21:51.000 these major superpowers.

00:21:52.000 Because we do not benefit from these conflicts.

00:21:55.000 It has ever been thus.

00:21:56.000 Economically, interests will benefit from these conflicts.

00:21:59.000 You won't.

00:22:00.000 The CNN report said that for the U.S.

00:22:02.000 military, the war has become an incredible source of data on the utility of its own systems.

00:22:06.000 For example, the U.S.

00:22:07.000 has seen that its HIMARS rocket launch system has been effective against Russian forces.

00:22:13.000 Hey, that's a very effective rocket! 0.99

00:22:14.000 Look, we've killed all those Russians! 1.00

00:22:16.000 Oh, what are they doing now? 1.00

00:22:17.000 Oh, they're telling Putin!

00:22:18.000 And what's he doing?

00:22:19.000 Oh, he's going behind his desk!

00:22:20.000 And what's that button he's gonna press?

00:22:21.000 Oh, this is a real triumph!

00:22:23.000 The war in Ukraine has also created a demand for weapons that were beginning to become obsolete, such as the Stinger shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles.

00:22:31.000 Buy a sale!

00:22:32.000 Everything must go!

00:22:34.000 Over-the-shoulder missile launchers, now at half price!

00:22:37.000 Shouldn't be a war that's about bargains.

00:22:39.000 You're continually told about, you know, this is helping Ukrainian grandmothers, these orphans, and all this stuff.

00:22:44.000 It's really, essentially, Walmart Let's see how the mainstream media covers this contentious issue of arms sales and spending billions of dollars of taxpayer revenue on a war that could lead to a global conflagration.

00:22:53.000 as thousands have been shipped to Ukraine.

00:22:56.000 Let's see how the mainstream media covers this contentious issue of arms sales

00:23:00.000 and spending billions of dollars of taxpayer revenue on a war that could lead to a global conflagration.

00:23:06.000 I expect it will be balanced and transparent.

00:23:09.000 A secret location, a precious weapon.

00:23:12.000 Fetishizing the weapon?

00:23:13.000 Mmm, a precious weapon.

00:23:14.000 Look at you, baby.

00:23:15.000 The High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or HIMARS.

00:23:19.000 A powerful gift from the United States to Ukraine.

00:23:22.000 A powerful gift, a sexy weapon.

00:23:25.000 It's gonna be so good to get that radioactive rain tumbling onto my face, knowing it was such a sexy phallic missile that provoked the conflict. 0.86

00:23:33.000 So far they've only received four of these launches, but the scorch marks on the earth show they've been busy.

00:23:40.000 When I see a scorch mark on the Earth, I think, yay!

00:23:43.000 We've been busy, baby!

00:23:44.000 Hopefully, if they get the maximum number of weapons possible, the whole Earth will be one bloody great big scorch mark.

00:23:50.000 Brilliant.

00:23:51.000 The operators say its accuracy and range, about 44 miles, allows them to hit important sites deep inside Russian-controlled territory.

00:23:59.000 The local pro-Russian forces were in no doubt.

00:24:03.000 Only Ukraine's new Heimat could have done this.

00:24:06.000 In a sense, you shouldn't be fetishizing war and conflict.

00:24:09.000 Ukrainian people are dying, Russian people are dying. 0.98

00:24:11.000 I believe that no one is ultimately benefiting from this except for the most elite interests in the world.

00:24:16.000 In another sign of the Haimars' ability to influence this war, Ukrainian leaders can't stop saying thank you. 0.99

00:24:24.000 No other donated weapon has inspired so much public gratitude.

00:24:28.000 Donated weapon?

00:24:29.000 The language around this.

00:24:30.000 This is a profitable endeavor that allows the West to test pilot weapons that they may be able to use in future conflicts.

00:24:38.000 Of course they want to present that as humanitarian aid.

00:24:41.000 Of course they want CNN puff pieces.

00:24:43.000 The Ukrainians say, I thank her.

00:24:44.000 But this is something that is contentious and dangerous and requires responsibility, not only with the decisions that are made, but the way that we are informed about the nature of those decisions.

00:24:52.000 This commander wants to thank the American people and President Biden for providing a weapon that is helping Ukraine stay in the fight.

00:25:00.000 Oh Lockheed Martin, I've heard of them somewhere.

00:25:02.000 I wonder how much money they make this year.

00:25:04.000 That's why their message to their allies is unchanged.

00:25:07.000 So CNN there are just presenting essentially a commercial for Lockheed Martin and their products, dressing it up as aid to the Ukrainian struggle.

00:25:16.000 Please send more weapons.

00:25:18.000 Now.

00:25:19.000 Don't worry, more weapons are coming.

00:25:22.000 That's the news.

00:25:23.000 Lockheed Martin announced recently that it plans to expand its production of the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, better known as HIMARS, or H-I-M-A-R-S, by more than 50%.

00:25:34.000 So it's a good job that there's a commercial right in the middle of the news saying that we need more of them.

00:25:38.000 The decision follows months of positive publicity for the weapons system on the news, which seems to have sparked increased interest from governments in Eastern Europe.

00:25:47.000 Of course it does, that's propaganda, that's the function of propaganda.

00:25:50.000 The announcement comes just a month after the army said it wanted to double HIMARS production and triple production of certain types of artillery in response to the war in Ukraine.

00:25:58.000 This type of boost would require new or at least dramatically expanded production facilities, raising concerns that it would be difficult to scale back down in the future.

00:26:06.000 Hopefully we can have another war then! 1.00

00:26:08.000 Keep production just rolling on!

00:26:10.000 Large defence companies are already seeing their share prices go up as investors anticipate the impact of the war on profits.

00:26:16.000 As of June 2022, Lockheed Martin has seen an increase of 14%.

00:26:20.000 Of course they have.

00:26:21.000 They've got CNN on board, doing news broadcasts that essentially highlight the demand for their product as a pious endeavour.

00:26:29.000 Jack Reed, Democrat, and Jim Inhofe, Republican, recently proposed a new amendment to this year's National Defence Authorisation Act.

00:26:37.000 The proposal would give the Department of Defense wartime powers that would free it to buy huge amounts of artillery and other munitions using multi-year contracts.

00:26:45.000 Of course, we mention that to highlight that whether you are pro-Democrat or pro-Republican, you are pro the military-industrial complex, you are pro your tax dollars being spent on this war.

00:26:55.000 And again, let me iterate that supporting Ukrainian people Ending this conflict should be an absolute priority.

00:27:02.000 The message that patriotism and profits for the military-industrial complex are one fused idea is a propagandist one.

00:27:10.000 I believe what's best for Ukrainian people is a peaceful solution as soon as possible.

00:27:15.000 This amendment will mean that they don't have to vote on it, no one has to talk about it.

00:27:18.000 Essentially, your money can be funneled directly into Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.

00:27:22.000 That's exactly what they want to be able to tell their shareholders.

00:27:24.000 The amendment would also authorise the Pentagon to skip competitive contracting for Ukraine-related deals, including billions of dollars worth of contracts to refill US stockpiles, and it would waive other provisions aimed at stopping weapons makers from overcharging taxpayers.

00:27:39.000 So they're going to be able to set their own prices, there won't be competition, all these ideas.

00:27:42.000 Remember how often, if you hear sort of what you might regard as socialist rhetoric, No, entrepreneurialism, capitalism, free market competition, this is what generates ingenuity.

00:27:51.000 Well, we're going to be really taking a hit on the ingenuity here because they're not competing, they're not signing it off, and they're not having to account for their expenditure.

00:27:59.000 There is also legislation pending in Congress that indicates that the US government believes the Ukraine war may continue for years.

00:28:05.000 Fingers crossed.

00:28:06.000 On October 11th, the Senate Armed Services Committee submitted its amended draft of the National Defense Authorization Act for 2023.

00:28:13.000 Nestled within the draft is a provision that would establish an emergency multi-year plan to award massive defense contracts to Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, BAE Systems and other war corporations to produce weapons for Ukraine and to replenish U.S.

00:28:26.000 stockpiles as well as those of foreign allies and partners.

00:28:30.000 Whether or not it's this war or future wars, there is kind of a policy and an intention to continue with conflict in order to service these kind of deals.

00:28:38.000 Congress is supportive of this.

00:28:40.000 They're going to give us multi-year authority and they're going to give us funding to really put into the industrial base and I'm talking billions of dollars into the industrial base to fund these

00:28:48.000 production lines, said the Pentagon's chief weapons buyer Bill LaPlante. And Bill LaPlante is an

00:28:52.000 accurate name because he's been planted there by a corrupt system. So when we're talking

00:28:56.000 about this war, we're talking about this conflict and we're focusing on Putin's brutality and

00:29:01.000 endless array of diseases and Russia's criminal invasion, all of which is true, and the suffering of 0.99

00:29:06.000 Ukrainian people, certainly true, it is operating as a veil to prevent us seeing that much like the 1.00

00:29:11.000 pandemic, this situation is highly beneficial to some of the most powerful interests in the

00:29:16.000 world. And if what could be regarded as a crisis for you and for me is beneficial to the most

00:29:21.000 powerful interests in the world, what kind of outcomes do you anticipate? Do you think there's going

00:29:26.000 to be an end to the war? Or do you think the war will continue? Let me know in the chat. Let me know

00:29:31.000 in the comments. A recent Ukrainian embassy reception was sponsored by Northrop, Lockheed and

00:29:35.000 Raytheon.

00:29:36.000 We appreciate what you're doing over there, Zelensky.

00:29:39.000 That's why we've put on this lovely buffet for you.

00:29:41.000 Look at all these beautiful missiles!

00:29:43.000 Actually, that one's a baguette.

00:29:44.000 Here it is, all of the DLs and all of the information.

00:29:46.000 And look who sponsors it.

00:29:47.000 Northrop Grumman.

00:29:49.000 Raytheon Tech.

00:29:49.000 Yep.

00:29:50.000 Lockheed Martin.

00:29:51.000 I suppose you have to highlight certain aspects of this conflict.

00:29:54.000 The suffering of Ukrainian people.

00:29:56.000 The brutality of Putin.

00:29:57.000 In order to distract you from the fact that this is systemic, this is built into the system.

00:30:01.000 There is a beautiful invitation, sponsored by the military-industrial complex.

00:30:06.000 Whatever you think about this war, if it were ended right now, it would be a problem for those powerful interests that spend a fortune on lobbying and are benefiting hugely from the situation.

00:30:15.000 And with the added advantage of being able to test pilot their products for future conflicts, which they appear to be agitating for elsewhere.

00:30:22.000 As documented in a Pulitzer Prize-winning series in 2008, the Pentagon orchestrated the commentary of 75 former officers who served as radio and TV analysts, turning them into message force multipliers for the administration's point of view.

00:30:36.000 Many of the retired officers who appeared on TV worked for companies that counted on military contracts, creating a built-in conflict that news organizations didn't mention when introducing the analysts.

00:30:47.000 So what this video shows you is how CNN, a media partner, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon work together in order to pursue a common end.

00:30:55.000 You don't need a conspiracy.

00:30:57.000 You don't need hoods and reptiles or any of that stuff when you can see in plain sight that there is a convergence of interests.

00:31:04.000 The weapons industry are benefiting, the US state are benefiting, the media are benefiting.

00:31:09.000 All of these people individually benefit, their interests align There is no requirement for clandestine conspiracy when overtly interests converge.

00:31:17.000 This is one of the issues that we want to continually observe.

00:31:20.000 This is not conspiracy theory.

00:31:21.000 This is not crazy wackiness.

00:31:23.000 This is just the system and the machine doing what it does.

00:31:26.000 But that's just why I think.

00:31:27.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.

00:31:29.000 I'm going to read those comments right now.

00:31:30.000 Thank you for choosing Fox News.

00:31:32.000 The news.

00:31:33.000 No. 1.00

00:31:34.000 Here's the fucking news. 1.00

00:31:36.000 My brain, my choice sets. 1.00

00:31:39.000 Supported by NATO.

00:31:40.000 Funded by NATO.

00:31:41.000 Armed by NATO.

00:31:42.000 They are NATO.

00:31:43.000 Pride, folks.

00:31:44.000 Zuckerberg should let them fight it out in meta.

00:31:47.000 Retrack 81.

00:31:48.000 Sustainable war is the goal. 0.98

00:31:49.000 Permanent military industrial income and constant death.

00:31:54.000 A gloomy, yet perhaps accurate, appraisal of this perennial conflict that we're invited to participate in.

00:32:00.000 But in other news, M&Ms.

00:32:03.000 People seem to be focusing a bit too much on the apocalypse and not enough on the demise of the candy spokespeople that we've touched upon earlier in the show.

00:32:15.000 We've got a fantastic guest on the show now.

00:32:17.000 He's created unions where it seemed impossible that such a thing could happen, where only division existed, where tyranny, centralised power, a monolith named after the lungs of the earth but seemingly determined to asphyxiate us all, Amazon, mightier than most of the planet's countries, have yielded to the power that can only be... can only be wielded When people come together, Christian Smalls is the president of the first Amazon Labor Union.

00:32:49.000 Before we meet him, let's have a look at him in a moment of triumph.

00:32:53.000 Check this.

00:32:55.000 A champagne bottle was popped as Amazon workers in New York cheered on their historic vote.

00:33:00.000 For the first time in almost three decades, employees at one facility voted to unionize.

00:33:06.000 This is the catalyst for the revolution.

00:33:09.000 Just like Starbucks.

00:33:10.000 Y'all see what's going on with the Starbucks unionizing across the country.

00:33:14.000 Christian, thanks very much for joining us on Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:33:19.000 Can you tell me, mate, how did you find yourself in this situation where you moved from working at that organisation to creating this union?

00:33:26.000 Seems you've made an incredible impact.

00:33:29.000 Yeah, thank you for having me.

00:33:30.000 It's a pleasure.

00:33:31.000 My journey started two years ago, three years ago now, actually, 2020, when I was fired for protesting outside of that same facility that we unionized, JFK.

00:33:43.000 I led a protest over COVID-19.

00:33:45.000 I was fired the same day.

00:33:48.000 Um, about a week and a half later, Jeff Bezos himself, along with his general counsel, had a smear campaign calling me not smart or articulate that leaked to the public.

00:34:00.000 And from that moment forward, I continued to organize and agitate across the country for about a year.

00:34:07.000 protested in front of every Jeff Bezos mansion that we can find from New York all the way to Beverly Hills.

00:34:14.000 And then when we came back, we decided that we wanted to form an independent union and we started campaigning.

00:34:21.000 I spent over 300 days outside of the facility signing people up for this independent union.

00:34:29.000 And then last year, April 1st, 2022, we became the first union in American history.

00:34:36.000 You know, like, the union movement is regarded, I feel, as somewhat outgraded as industrialization has altered.

00:34:44.000 Coal, steel, manufacturing jobs have largely disappeared and seem to be on the way out where even they currently still abide.

00:34:55.000 Do you think creating a union in this space, which is ultimately within the realm of big tech, is a way that ordinary people can come together to oppose centralized power?

00:35:06.000 And Christian, when you talked about in that news clip there about revolution, do you feel that new forms of union and community can create genuine opposition to unprecedented power that these kind of big tech companies have?

00:35:26.000 100%.

00:35:27.000 Absolutely.

00:35:28.000 Um, you know, we're at a point in time where, you know, workers realize the value, uh, the pandemic put the world on pause.

00:35:36.000 And during that time, we realized that, you know, the power, our oppressors against us, our government has failed us and nobody's going to save us but ourselves.

00:35:48.000 You know, I realized that from a company that I poured my blood, sweat and tears into for a number of years.

00:35:55.000 And I spoke up one time and they terminated me.

00:35:59.000 So I had no protection.

00:36:00.000 I had nobody, no Calgary, nobody to come help me out.

00:36:04.000 I had to find myself in my community and with the community, uh, we formed this union and that's what it's going to take to really get the protections and the benefits and the life that we all rightfully deserve.

00:36:18.000 It takes that the community come together, people coming together, realizing that we all have to build up a commonality, that we're not going to be given these things, the things that we want in life, whether it's higher wages, better medical leave options, job security, free housing, free Medicare, we're not, we're never going to be given these things, we have to fight for it.

00:36:42.000 And the only way we're going to do that is by forming unions, forming community organizations, mutual aid, and things of that nature that's going to bring people together.

00:36:52.000 The obligation then to support unions, even if you're not a member of one, becomes yet more significant when you describe how important and how successful your action has been.

00:37:04.000 One of the things as well that's changing, Christian, is that the categories of left and right don't seem to make sense in the same kind of way they once did.

00:37:11.000 I feel like you went on Tucker and talked about your union and got like a sympathetic ear there where once Fox News wouldn't have been a place where left-wing issues were looked upon favourably.

00:37:21.000 Also, this is my own opinion, it seems like the Democrat party isn't willing to go at a map for workers when it matters, even though I know you met Joe Biden and stuff.

00:37:33.000 I feel like the Amazon and the government have significant contracts and the relationship between big tech And the government is so entrenched and enmeshed that ultimately, whether it's the Republican Party or the Democrat Party, but you know, I guess it's more surprising that the Democrat Party don't care.

00:37:51.000 It seems like that ordinary workers are not going to get the support that they require How do you find yourself navigating that space where once customarily you'd known that the left would have had your back, that the Democrats would have had your back, or Labour in this country that I'm in.

00:38:07.000 Now you can't rely on that.

00:38:09.000 And how do you feel about having to deal with organisations like Fox News and stuff like that?

00:38:15.000 Is that a big deal to you?

00:38:18.000 Well, I mean, no, for us, uh, you know, we just have to continue to do the work, you know, and we organize.

00:38:25.000 Um, my, my union specifically, uh, we're independent for that reason.

00:38:31.000 Uh, we're not tied to any political party.

00:38:34.000 We're not affiliated with any established union that's tied to political parties, whether it's left or right.

00:38:41.000 We're independent.

00:38:43.000 Um, in our constitution, we do not endorse politicians.

00:38:47.000 We don't care how good they are, how progressive they are.

00:38:50.000 We love and support, um, You know, whatever supports the workers, and that's how we organize.

00:38:59.000 We don't feed into the politics, and we don't rely on Democrats to save us as well.

00:39:06.000 We use their support whenever that is.

00:39:09.000 We don't know how and whenever they give it to us, but it comes in doses, and we understand that the time that we're in, we're going to have to hold these politicians accountable.

00:39:21.000 And that's what we've been doing.

00:39:23.000 I've been on record calling politicians out.

00:39:26.000 I'm going to continue to do that as the president.

00:39:28.000 I'm going to make sure that whoever I need to get support from is on notice on the public platform.

00:39:35.000 And that goes all the way up to the White House.

00:39:37.000 You know, I've been on record saying that Joe Biden, that claims to be the most progressive union president in history, has to do more.

00:39:46.000 And he needs to bring these CEOs to the table and tell them that they need to sit at the table with the workers, especially the ones that are unionizing.

00:39:55.000 Mate, have you heard much about The ways that new progressive ways that organizations like Amazon and these big tech companies could be structured, granting more power to workers, even a share of the business.

00:40:12.000 When you talk about revolution, it seems like, and when any of us talk about revolution, really what we mean is, are we able to meaningfully alter, you know, even overthrow these systems when they have such a grasp on power Sometimes it feels that all we can do is create a little bit of change, a little break here or there, which I know is significant to the people that you represent if people get Medicare or people get a pay cut.

00:40:40.000 But when we're talking about revolution, I suppose what we're talking about is meaningful radical change and the ability for ordinary people to Have some control in their lives.

00:40:49.000 And I wonder if you ever think about how this union movement could grow, become affiliated if not with one of the existing political parties with as yet unborn political movements.

00:40:59.000 I wonder if that's stuff you think about.

00:41:02.000 I mean, you know, I'm at the point where, you know, we need a third party.

00:41:02.000 Well, absolutely.

00:41:07.000 We need a party that represent workers, the working class party.

00:41:12.000 We need a party that represent the people that's actually being suffered every day, suffering, living every day in this country that's not being represented, that's not being heard.

00:41:24.000 Um, you know, I'm out here in the streets, uh, daily, connecting with people, different communities, traveling the country, and I see what's going on on the ground, and it's, uh, it's really heartbreaking to see that, uh, America, which claims to be the richest country in the world, um, and we have such a crisis in this country.

00:41:45.000 So for me and our movement, it is a revolution because we're at a point in time where workers are taking the power and putting it back into their own hands.

00:41:57.000 And I know it's going to be a long process.

00:42:00.000 You know, that's why I always remind ourselves that this is a marathon, not a sprint.

00:42:04.000 You know, just imagine Amazon workers getting a contract.

00:42:08.000 Amazon workers, the trillion dollar company, the most powerful company in modern day history right now, are one of them.

00:42:17.000 And we're getting a contract that is going to protect ourselves as workers at the bottom of the totem pole.

00:42:23.000 That's going to change the whole industry.

00:42:25.000 That's going to empower, encourage people, no matter what industry they work in, from Target, to Whole Foods, to Home Depot, to Trader Joe's, to Apple, to Google.

00:42:36.000 It's going to empower people to want to fight and form these unions, which we already started to see last year with the Starbucks campaigns and other campaigns launching as independent unions, not just forming our affiliate or established unions.

00:42:52.000 A lot of unions are now becoming independent, and there's going to be more to come in the future.

00:42:56.000 And I believe with our victory and our success of getting a contract, that's going to change the whole industry forever.

00:43:06.000 You're describing there is pretty exciting because big tech presents itself as kind of convenient and friction free.

00:43:15.000 You don't see the invisible people behind an organization like Amazon, you just get the package and the parcel.

00:43:22.000 And with Facebook and Apple and all these companies, there's a kind of cleanliness in the way that they present themselves.

00:43:28.000 And you don't see the invisible toil and suffering that sometimes when I hear about it, it doesn't sound like it belongs to this century.

00:43:36.000 People not getting breaks, the peeing in the bottles.

00:43:38.000 Then internationally, we know that like the kind of products that we're all relying on.

00:43:42.000 I'm holding up my iPhone there, a dependent upon slave labor in like Congo, like with the cobalt mining deal and all that kind of stuff. 0.98

00:43:51.000 It seems to me that what you're describing is a need for an awakening.

00:43:56.000 That we've all gotten so used to being consumers, we've gotten so used to convenience, that we've come to tolerate the idea that other people's suffering is a price worth paying.

00:44:09.000 That it's somehow become marginalized and concealed.

00:44:12.000 No one cares about it.

00:44:14.000 Like in the age in my country with the steel workers and the coal workers, It became a source of pride, the labor unions, and it feels like what you're interested in is creating those communities again.

00:44:24.000 And in order to do that, the truth has to be revealed about the human cost of these apparently friction-free, convenient, big tech devices and organizations that all of us have become kind of addicted to.

00:44:36.000 Absolutely, I agree 100%.

00:44:38.000 Just think about it.

00:44:41.000 What was we doing 10 years ago?

00:44:44.000 Just 10 years ago?

00:44:46.000 We were getting up, going to the mall and shopping on Saturdays.

00:44:52.000 We weren't really ordering on Amazon Prime.

00:44:57.000 Just 10 years ago, you were able to go to your local Main Street in your local community and possibly still go to a Barnes and Noble or bookstore.

00:45:07.000 You can't go there no more.

00:45:09.000 Main Street and every community right now in America looks different.

00:45:13.000 The malls, the shopping centers, they're empty.

00:45:19.000 There's we're givin one company.

00:45:20.000 money to one company. So one click by you're affect

00:45:27.000 different people and people don't see that.

00:45:31.000 And that's exactly what we have to put on Front Street.

00:45:34.000 And that's exactly what organizing and amplifying voices that are unheard is doing.

00:45:41.000 It's exposing the ugliness of these corporations and the malpractices that's happening in these warehouses.

00:45:49.000 And hopefully one day that we'll get to a point or a platform where There will be an awakening where people will be like, you know what?

00:45:58.000 Let me stop shopping there.

00:46:01.000 Let me shop at my local store.

00:46:04.000 Let me stop supporting this company until they do better and stand by their workers.

00:46:10.000 This power that's being aggregated by organizations like Amazon make it increasingly difficult

00:46:16.000 to have power at the level of the individual or at the level of the community.

00:46:20.000 In order to have that kind of community, you need real democracy.

00:46:24.000 In order to say, we want a community where we have our own stores, our own banking, you

00:46:31.000 know, like, that's real democracy.

00:46:32.000 real democracy. Like you said, just 10 years ago, this landscape was recognisably different

00:46:38.000 and it's happening so slowly. And the pandemic, of course, just exacerbated it, trained us

00:46:43.000 once again to be okay with being locked up and locked down.

00:46:47.000 And I suppose that the, I feel like that the lockdown was significant in the advance

00:46:53.000 and creation of your movement.

00:46:54.000 Is that right, Christian? Is it because like your conditions were exacerbated there?

00:46:59.000 Absolutely. You know, I was, I was just a worker going to work while they're

00:47:05.000 You know, I have twins, one boy, one girl, single parent, just living my life.

00:47:11.000 I wasn't thinking about any of this three years ago.

00:47:15.000 If you'd have told me today, I'd be sitting here as the first union president of Amazon, I'd have looked at you like you had 10 heads.

00:47:23.000 So it took me losing everything.

00:47:26.000 It took Amazon firing me publicly.

00:47:31.000 Um, it took all of that to really put me in position to continue and fight against them.

00:47:39.000 And, uh, I didn't want to unionize that first.

00:47:42.000 And I, you know, those who have been following my journey from the beginning know, uh, we were just advocating on a community level with my organization.

00:47:53.000 TCOEW, the Congress of Essential Workers.

00:47:55.000 We were traveling, just protesting, rallying, trying to build this movement up.

00:48:01.000 And then it took a whole year and a half later, after the pandemic already started, for me to realize that the only way we're going to really protect ourselves is by forming a union for Amazon workers.

00:48:16.000 And that's when we begin that campaign.

00:48:19.000 And, you know, the rest is history, you know.

00:48:22.000 To be standing here now and continue to fight, it's been nothing short but amazing.

00:48:27.000 But I know that we have a long battle ahead of us.

00:48:30.000 But I can see from being here on the ground, connected with different communities, I can see the change and I can see the difference.

00:48:39.000 And I can see these conversations starting to take place in different spaces.

00:48:43.000 On a personal level, it must have felt like at the time that you were under most duress, an opportunity emerged.

00:48:54.000 But what was it like for you to lose your job as a single parent and a father of two kids?

00:49:02.000 I imagine you were under incredible financial and psychological pressure.

00:49:08.000 What was that like, mate?

00:49:11.000 Oh my gosh, yeah.

00:49:13.000 Yeah, I lost everything.

00:49:16.000 Once again, I worked at Amazon for five years.

00:49:19.000 I was a supervisor for four and a half years.

00:49:23.000 I opened up three buildings in a tri-state area, New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut.

00:49:28.000 I was a really good employee.

00:49:30.000 I wasn't just a regular that just come in there and do the job.

00:49:34.000 I did my job, and I did it well.

00:49:36.000 I was well-respected.

00:49:39.000 Everybody loved me.

00:49:40.000 My team loved me, my department.

00:49:43.000 I was really popular in the building. And, uh, yeah, to lose all of that in one day

00:49:50.000 was definitely devastating, especially during the pandemic, especially being in New York City,

00:49:54.000 when New York City was the epicenter of the world. People were dying every 15 minutes over here.

00:50:00.000 And to lose all of that, because I was speaking out to protect everybody,

00:50:05.000 uh, was definitely devastating, but also, um, empowering at the same time, because,

00:50:12.000 you know, once again in t to make a decision.

00:50:16.000 When they fired me, I had to make a decision right then and there, whether I'm going to just say, you know what the hell with them and take legal action

00:50:25.000 or I'm going to continue advocating and

00:50:28.000 Amplifying what happened to me so that doesn't happen to other people and that's when I decide to continue

00:50:34.000 advocating How significant is it that people find ways to connect?

00:50:42.000 That are not determined and defined by cultural conflict.

00:50:47.000 It's It seems that when people have a shared plight and a shared agenda, when all the people in your organization, for example, are suffering as a result of advanced capitalism, commodification, lack of rights for workers, things that are affecting

00:51:04.000 Probably billions of people around the world.

00:51:07.000 And like we've discussed, Christian, stories that are simply not told.

00:51:12.000 How important is it that we start to develop a vision that enables us to see beyond the amount of divisiveness and conflict that the culture pumps out, giving us reasons and ways to turn against one another on the basis of culture, religion, racial or sexual identity.

00:51:33.000 How important is it to find ways to unify in meaningful, purpose-driven ways such as this?

00:51:40.000 Well, it's simple.

00:51:44.000 When it comes to environmental justice, social injustice, labor, when it comes to these different movements, Black Lives Matter, we have to, as labor leaders, As the working class, we have to take a stance, and we have to stand in solidarity with these issues.

00:52:06.000 And like I told Lindsey Graham, it's not a left or a right thing.

00:52:12.000 It's a working thing.

00:52:13.000 It's a people's thing.

00:52:14.000 Meaning that my building, JFK, in Staten Island, for example, Staten Island is, everybody knows, is conservative.

00:52:24.000 It's Trump Island.

00:52:26.000 Everywhere is Trump.

00:52:27.000 It's all conservative over there.

00:52:31.000 We had to build off a commonality of the work-related issues.

00:52:36.000 You know, not everybody in that warehouse is Democrat.

00:52:40.000 Not everybody comes home and watches Democracy Now or watches anything close to CNN or whatever.

00:52:47.000 Amazon workers do not do that. 1.00

00:52:50.000 We had to educate them.

00:52:52.000 And we also had to bring all different backgrounds

00:52:58.000 sexualities, whatever ide bring community together

00:53:05.000 came from to build off th the work related issues.

00:53:10.000 Everybody wants higher wages.

00:53:12.000 Everybody wants to be treated with respect.

00:53:15.000 Everybody deserves to have a decent amount of family time.

00:53:22.000 Everybody deserves to not have to work 10 to 12 hours and commute two or three hours each way.

00:53:29.000 So everybody felt the need to unionize to anybody.

00:53:33.000 because these things are important to anybody.

00:53:36.000 If you ask me, any working class person would definitely deserve, or definitely want to have

00:53:42.000 a better life, a quality of life.

00:53:44.000 And that's what we're fighting for overall, a better quality of life.

00:53:47.000 These ideas and this analysis, I think will scale even beyond the incredible achievement

00:53:57.000 that you have already undertaken.

00:54:00.000 I feel that this is an important global message for people to recognize that we have more in common with one another than that.

00:54:08.000 Which divides us and that this division is a crucial ingredient in preventing the kind of success that you've experienced.

00:54:16.000 In our country, there's a walkout tomorrow at Amazon in Coventry.

00:54:22.000 That's a city in the middle of the country.

00:54:25.000 Have you spoke to them and what advice would you give them?

00:54:31.000 Yeah, I stand in solidarity with them.

00:54:33.000 I know about it.

00:54:34.000 I'm actually gonna be I'm plugging myself right now, but I'll be on BBC tomorrow speaking about it.

00:54:41.000 We definitely support one another.

00:54:46.000 I'll be visiting the UK very soon.

00:54:48.000 So I'm hoping that I will be connected with some of the organizers.

00:54:52.000 I finally got my passport.

00:54:53.000 So like you said, this is a global movement.

00:54:56.000 I'm looking forward to traveling abroad, starting with London next month.

00:55:00.000 And I'm definitely going to connect with every movement that I could possibly when you're talking about Amazon.

00:55:07.000 And tomorrow we're going to talk more about it when they start their strike.

00:55:13.000 When you come out country, mate, I'd love you to come here and be in studio with us because I feel like if you've got global corporations that are astride the globe, that essentially transcend borders, then there needs to be a response in kind.

00:55:27.000 There needs to be a worker-oriented or people-oriented movement to oppose and confront that kind of global power.

00:55:36.000 You know, a lot of, I think, resurgent nationalism is a response to globalism, that people feel

00:55:42.000 they don't have no control in their countries.

00:55:44.000 And if there are ways that people can unite behind a common interest, like you said, quality

00:55:49.000 of life, standard of life, right to dignity and respect, I feel that this could be, you

00:55:55.000 know, a global movement.

00:55:56.000 So, yeah, will you come on?

00:55:57.000 Absolutely.

00:55:58.000 Absolutely.

00:56:00.000 I definitely love to come visit.

00:56:04.000 I stand with that.

00:56:06.000 I stand on what I say.

00:56:07.000 I wouldn't have been doing this and sacrificing the time that I had if I didn't believe in it.

00:56:14.000 I believe that we're at a point of no return.

00:56:17.000 We're at a point where there's no way we can go back to what we've been getting because we weren't getting anything.

00:56:25.000 So now we just have to continue organizing, continue pushing forward, and understand that this is a revolution, this is the beginning, and we have to continue to fight.

00:56:37.000 And when we fight back, as we always say, we win.

00:56:42.000 Christian, that's pretty exciting.

00:56:43.000 There's a lot of things I want to talk to you about.

00:56:45.000 There's this festival, this community festival we do in the UK in July.

00:56:50.000 I'd love you to come and speak at that as well if you're available.

00:56:53.000 Christian, thanks for your time.

00:56:54.000 I think you're doing really, really powerful and important work.

00:56:57.000 Congratulations on what you've achieved and what you've overcome and I'm really excited about what you'll achieve going forward and what we can achieve together because ultimately this is a Thank you.

00:57:07.000 Thank you.

00:57:07.000 Absolutely.

00:57:07.000 I'm looking forward to it, my brother.

00:57:09.000 Be well.

00:57:09.000 Be safe out there.

00:57:09.000 of success which you've said is necessary now.

00:57:13.000 Thank you, thank you absolutely. I'm looking forward to it my brother.

00:57:17.000 Be safe out there, be well, I'll be seeing you guys soon.

00:57:20.000 God bless you.

00:57:21.000 Thanks, mate.

00:57:22.000 You can follow Christian at shut down Amazon.

00:57:22.000 Thanks very much.

00:57:27.000 There's an underscore shut underscore down Amazon.

00:57:30.000 That's what it is.

00:57:31.000 Now, Gareth, you very deliberately asked me not to come to you.

00:57:35.000 And it's a shame because we do have like you to ask special questions, don't you, during our interviews.

00:57:40.000 You've done them all.

00:57:42.000 I thought it was excellent.

00:57:43.000 For my interview in school.

00:57:44.000 Especially as I'm not very well.

00:57:44.000 I thought it was excellent.

00:57:45.000 You're not very well?

00:57:47.000 You've got a bit of a tickly cough, haven't you?

00:57:49.000 Well, actually, seriously, a little bit of a tickly cough doesn't sound like a real illness.

00:57:53.000 I didn't mean to undermine it.

00:57:54.000 I'm actually going to ask Christian to represent me against the powers that be and the head honchos in there because I shouldn't be forced to work in these conditions.

00:58:01.000 No, that was fantastic.

00:58:02.000 You sit there in your G-lane.

00:58:05.000 You got me it.

00:58:07.000 I had to.

00:58:08.000 From my wages.

00:58:11.000 This is Gareth's special question.

00:58:14.000 Why don't you ask me a special question, if you're such a good interviewer?

00:58:19.000 How bad is it, really?

00:58:21.000 The cold.

00:58:21.000 It's quite bad.

00:58:22.000 When I wake up in the night, I feel like I could cough up an omelette's worth of cough juice.

00:58:26.000 Got it.

00:58:28.000 You envisage it.

00:58:29.000 Small omelette, big omelette?

00:58:31.000 Like one my nan would make. 0.87

00:58:32.000 That's mushroom, tomato, bit of onion.

00:58:32.000 Got it.

00:58:34.000 Cheese?

00:58:35.000 I'm afraid so, yes.

00:58:37.000 Yeah, I didn't feel very well in the night, but I'm feeling a little bit better now.

00:58:41.000 That's something about Amazon. 1.00

00:58:42.000 Look at the sheer power of the bastard! 0.99

00:58:45.000 Look at the size of Amazon, gal! 1.00

00:58:47.000 And look at it smiling down at us with its arrow.

00:58:51.000 I like Christian Smalls.

00:58:52.000 I thought he was great.

00:58:53.000 Do you think that he, like me, Sorry, do you think he likes you?

00:58:57.000 Yeah, do you think he made a real connection?

00:58:58.000 I think he did.

00:58:58.000 I mean, he called you his brother at the end.

00:59:00.000 I think I did some good work.

00:59:01.000 I knew you'd enjoy that.

00:59:02.000 As soon as he said that, I thought, oh, Ross is happy there.

00:59:04.000 When you're a white person, in your heart of hearts, you want black people to call you brother.

00:59:07.000 Right.

00:59:08.000 In your heart of hearts.

00:59:09.000 I knew you'd be happy.

00:59:10.000 I'm always happy with that.

00:59:11.000 Yeah.

00:59:12.000 Interesting, though, isn't it?

00:59:13.000 amazing kind of story that is this point where we're so polarized and we're

00:59:18.000 increasingly encouraged to be polarized by the media just look what's going on

00:59:23.000 with the Biden Trump documents at the moment it's like no no they're so

00:59:25.000 different everything's still so far apart and then no one's sticking up for

00:59:30.000 Amazon workers no not the Republican Party, not the Democrat Party. You've got a situation now where like a

00:59:34.000 union that used to be so associated with the left is now gaining traction with the right because it's a bigger it's

00:59:40.000 a bigger issue now people have seen that the Democrats you know Joe Biden

00:59:44.000 promised rail workers seven days holiday that went nowhere that promise I think

00:59:49.000 they got one in the end. People are saying that politicians don't come through

00:59:52.000 with these promises and therefore the Democrats aren't the solution. I loved what he was saying

00:59:56.000 that we don't rely on anyone we're not relying on media we're not relying on

01:00:01.000 politicians anything It's fascinating.

01:00:02.000 That's why Martin Gurry's analysis is so important.

01:00:04.000 He says that if you're using the old rubric, the old lens, the old analytic of left versus right, you'll miss what's really happening.

01:00:11.000 There is the centre and the periphery.

01:00:13.000 Joe Biden is a centralist politician.

01:00:16.000 The attacks come from the periphery.

01:00:17.000 The problems that he's pointing out is the periphery don't come with solutions.

01:00:21.000 They come with critiques and attacks.

01:00:22.000 That's why we have to evolve a vision, Gal, if we are to overtake the planet and instantiate this new confederacy of devolved communities that confront establishment power.

01:00:33.000 That's the plan, is it?

01:00:35.000 I'm hoping to do that if I get over this cough.

01:00:36.000 Right.

01:00:37.000 On the show tomorrow, we've got Helena Norberg-Hodge coming on. 1.00

01:00:39.000 She is the OG of community.

01:00:42.000 Like, she's the person that says you should, like, she's the antidote to you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

01:00:47.000 You'll own everything and you'll be miserable, I suppose.

01:00:51.000 Now, she's all about localism, like you should run your own community, eat food that's from around there, all that kind of stuff.

01:00:57.000 Well, it's another one of these issues that we're kind of talking about.

01:01:00.000 That would have been... Normal!

01:01:02.000 Well, it would have been normal, but it would have, in more recent times, been associated with the left.

01:01:07.000 But I think what's happened is...

01:01:09.000 That the issues have got so problematic that people are now realising we've got to just put aside what politicians are trying to stoke us in whichever direction, you know.

01:01:18.000 We've got to say, what are the actual issues?

01:01:20.000 And one of those issues is localism, that globalism hasn't worked.

01:01:23.000 Companies like Amazon treat the workers terribly, treat the planet terribly, treat everything terribly while making massive profits in the pandemic.

01:01:32.000 We've got to find a way of fighting that.

01:01:35.000 When you think about the industrial movement of the last century, the unions that emerged

01:01:40.000 around steel, coal, shipyard manufacturing, the big industries in our country and presumably

01:01:45.000 over there in the States, probably everywhere, part of it was like the restoration of dignity

01:01:50.000 to the worker.

01:01:51.000 Because I was thinking then, you know, you think of, for example, think of Rockefeller

01:01:55.000 Place, that Diego, what's his name?

01:01:58.000 Frida Kahlo's husband did this big mural at Rockefeller Place.

01:02:02.000 They were sort of, I don't know, left-wing artists.

01:02:05.000 And it's like these Russian looking beautiful murals of workers and stuff.

01:02:11.000 I've been like, workers were regarded as disposable.

01:02:15.000 That's, that's what's behind the idea, isn't it? 0.99

01:02:18.000 You haven't got any right because if you don't do it, someone else will fuck off. 0.99

01:02:22.000 That's the idea, isn't it? 0.99

01:02:23.000 And like, that idea was broken down by the rise of the union movement.

01:02:29.000 It was the restoration of power.

01:02:31.000 But that's re is reemerging with zero contracts.

01:02:34.000 You know, even like we look in New York state when they laid off them 34,000 nurses, I think

01:02:38.000 around vaccine issues, like they they're able again, so we don't need you.

01:02:42.000 And this is the danger of AI. 0.99

01:02:44.000 Of course they'll sell us AI as, you know, this will be more convenient for you, your washing machine will give you a blowjob. 0.99

01:02:49.000 Mine already does. 0.91

01:02:51.000 But in effect what it'll be is like just low paid and medium paid work will disappear and workers will have...

01:02:58.000 Less and less rights.

01:02:59.000 We have to, I think, have a vision.

01:03:01.000 When the only vision is progress, progress.

01:03:03.000 It's not real progress.

01:03:04.000 It's not an advance ideologically.

01:03:05.000 It's not an advance spiritually or philosophically.

01:03:08.000 It's an advance in commodification.

01:03:10.000 The false markers of technology and medicine distract us from the fact that elsewhere we are stagnating.

01:03:15.000 There's no doubt that technology is advancing.

01:03:18.000 That's what's bought about this diaspora. 0.99

01:03:20.000 of information this breakdown of communities there's no doubt that there are brilliant advances made in medicine of course there are but because they are underwritten by capitalist interest late capitalist corporatist interest whatever language you like it means that people are being left behind of course amazon workers should have dignity of course they should be unionized and taken care of it like wherever we thought like we can't have this Unconsciousness, like the unconsciousness around the human cost of these trinkets and devices that we fetishize.

01:03:52.000 Yeah, and I think if anything, if anything good is to kind of come out of the pandemic, it is probably that there's been a bit of an awakening in people as to where we need to focus our attention.

01:04:02.000 Where as groups outside of the elites, outside of the 1%, we need to focus this.

01:04:10.000 We shouldn't be, we can't just continue to be divided in the way that we have been.

01:04:13.000 We need to look at who did best out of these situations?

01:04:16.000 Who grew in all sorts of wealth?

01:04:18.000 Who grew in powers?

01:04:20.000 And I think that is one thing that we can say is that there was a moment in time, two years, where it gave people the opportunity to kind of look more closely at where are the problems and where do we need to focus our energy?

01:04:31.000 And it sounds like that's kind of something that Christians use that.

01:04:33.000 That's good, isn't it?

01:04:34.000 So that the pandemic could be a sort of, we could regard it as a collective awakening, like a positive thing, even though it brought about a lot of suffering, even though it was clearly an opportunity to introduce more regulation.

01:04:44.000 And as Gareth just pointed out, that the most powerful interests in the world in many ways

01:04:47.000 became more powerful. Big Pharma, the Big Tech, it's actually also an opportunity for

01:04:53.000 us to recognise what's been going on. Alright, that's pretty good. Hey listen, don't forget

01:04:58.000 to sign up to our Locals community for access to our weekly exclusive show, Stay Connected.

01:05:03.000 It's extremely good and funny and strange. It's relaxed, isn't it?

01:05:07.000 It is very relaxed. We respond to all of your comments.

01:05:10.000 You know, it's like if you want to get deeper into this community, if you want to attend the live events, I just invited Christian there to speak at.

01:05:15.000 Look, Rick Rubin, I think, is going to come too.

01:05:17.000 You're doing your own guest bookings now, aren't you?

01:05:18.000 Doing my own guest bookings.

01:05:19.000 Running a show like Joe Rogan.

01:05:20.000 Doing his own guest bookings.

01:05:22.000 Doing my own guest bookings.

01:05:22.000 Yeah.

01:05:24.000 Don't hear him.

01:05:25.000 It's no big deal.

01:05:25.000 Just doing a guest booking.

01:05:26.000 Got all your needs scheduled.

01:05:28.000 You got his number, have you?

01:05:29.000 Think of him as Buckets.

01:05:30.000 Christian, I believe he's shut down Amazon underscore.

01:05:35.000 I'll be tweeting him on there. 1.00

01:05:37.000 Fucking cesspool. 1.00

01:05:38.000 What's going on now? 1.00

01:05:41.000 All right, join us.

01:05:42.000 So we're off now.

01:05:43.000 Sign up to our community, will you?

01:05:45.000 I'm sick of asking you.

01:05:46.000 I've not been very well.

01:05:49.000 I've got a funny tummy.

01:05:50.000 I'm on pills.

01:05:51.000 I've been taking bloody great big tablets.

01:05:53.000 They've given me the most marvellous farts.

01:05:55.000 There was a bit where I was going to set fire to a fart in the show. 0.95

01:05:59.000 No, that's not the lucky one.

01:06:00.000 Imagine if people are watching this.

01:06:02.000 They are, we don't have to imagine it.

01:06:06.000 Imagine people watching this.

01:06:08.000 For a minute, this is going to blow your mind.

01:06:09.000 How are they going to respond to me setting fire to a fart? 0.99

01:06:12.000 They're not going to love it.

01:06:14.000 Hope you're feeling better tomorrow.

01:06:15.000 Look at these lovely, kind people.

01:06:15.000 Look, see?

01:06:17.000 If I see one flicker of interest in seeing me burn a fart, this thing will go up like lightning.

01:06:23.000 No, please, no one do that.

01:06:24.000 All I want is one comment.

01:06:26.000 It's not worth it, guys.

01:06:27.000 They're just sending love.

01:06:28.000 That's it.

01:06:29.000 No one's asking for it.

01:06:30.000 No farts.

01:06:31.000 You seem to be closer to lighting it.

01:06:33.000 No fart line.

01:06:34.000 People are against it.

01:06:35.000 Of course they are!

01:06:36.000 Don't do it!

01:06:38.000 I sometimes actually misjudge situations.

01:06:39.000 They're trying to protect you.

01:06:40.000 It's like that time when I was on stage and I wee'd in a bottle.

01:06:43.000 No, I know.

01:06:44.000 Because I didn't want to leave the stage.

01:06:45.000 I was doing a show and I really needed a wee.

01:06:47.000 I'd rush there, I was late for the show so they didn't like me.

01:06:50.000 So I wee'd in a bottle outside the stage.

01:06:52.000 I stayed on mic, did a wee into the bottle.

01:06:55.000 You always have to create a little air gap otherwise you could get bullfrog neck.

01:07:00.000 You can get that.

01:07:02.000 Sure.

01:07:03.000 So then I weed into the bottle.

01:07:04.000 That sounds like a man talking through experience.

01:07:07.000 This is the experience that I had.

01:07:08.000 The bullfrog neck.

01:07:09.000 Oh that's if you put your willy over the bottle and like this the willy forms a sealant and sometimes you get bullfrog neck.

01:07:18.000 Do you see?

01:07:19.000 There's some pushback.

01:07:20.000 How many times did that happen?

01:07:21.000 Twice.

01:07:22.000 And then I thought, never again.

01:07:23.000 Right.

01:07:23.000 Neary again.

01:07:25.000 That's it!

01:07:26.000 Where's my ticker tape parade?

01:07:28.000 Absolutely.

01:07:28.000 I didn't receive no heroes' welcome.

01:07:31.000 You know?

01:07:31.000 No.

01:07:32.000 My average age was 19!

01:07:34.000 Was my average age.

01:07:37.000 We've lost him.

01:07:38.000 I don't set fire to the fart.

01:07:40.000 That's what we've basically agreed.

01:07:41.000 Anyway, by mistake, I showed them the wee-wee in a bottle.

01:07:44.000 They're disgusted.

01:07:45.000 They didn't like it.

01:07:45.000 Of course.

01:07:46.000 They like, they think they can handle it, but they can't.

01:07:49.000 No.

01:07:49.000 That's what you have to remember with the audience's wee-wee.

01:07:52.000 Oh, what was in there?

01:07:53.000 Just that?

01:07:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:54.000 Well, some poo in a bottle.

01:07:55.000 Okay.

01:07:56.000 Alright.

01:07:57.000 I just wondered why they were so disgusted.

01:07:59.000 And a genie in a bottle.

01:07:59.000 And it weren't even that lella, because I drink a lot of water.

01:08:02.000 Oh, that's the rule.

01:08:04.000 I like, when I see my urine, I like it to be, yes, okay, gold, but I don't want it to be, like, coarse.

01:08:11.000 No, no.

01:08:11.000 You don't want it coarse.

01:08:13.000 You don't want an undercut rap show.

01:08:15.000 I feel bad enough. 0.83

01:08:16.000 Yeah, no, sorry, this is mental illness now.

01:08:18.000 Listen, we're going.

01:08:19.000 We'll see you tomorrow.

01:08:19.000 You were talking about global unions a minute ago.

01:08:22.000 It really fell apart fast.

01:08:23.000 Christian Smalls was holding us together, weren't he?

01:08:25.000 I hope he's not still watching.

01:08:27.000 Listen, I'm not coming in that thing, and I retract my use of the word brother.

01:08:31.000 You are now not connected to me.

01:08:34.000 I wouldn't even have you in the union.

01:08:36.000 Alright, we're off.

01:08:38.000 Join us tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

01:08:40.000 I think we've proved that.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - January 24, 2023

Ukraine & The New World Order - #065 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

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