When did you think that Nancy Pelosi was about anything other than children? In this episode, Russell Brand takes a look at what it means to be a child centenarian and why it s important to have a child in politics. Plus, Dr. Bob Gill, a British doctor who refuses to let corporate health care firms run British medicine, and Dr. Andre the Giant, who wants to give back to the community. And, of course, there s a live shot of the future, hosted by Russell Brand. Stay Free, A.K.A. Russell Brand, is a comedian, writer, podcaster, and podcaster. His work has been featured in the New York Times, CNN, CBS, NPR, NPR and many other publications. He is also a regular contributor to The Huffington Post, and is one of the most influential people on the internet. He is married to former House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who is up for re-election in 2020, but hasn t said whether or not she plans to run again. And, as yet, she has not said whether she s going to seek another term in the next election, or whether she will seek to become the next Democratic candidate for president in the 2020 Democratic primary, or if she will stay on the ticket in the general election. If she does decide to run, who will she choose? and who would she choose as her running mate? And who would that be? And why is she choosing to run for president? in the first place? And who s the most likely to run against her? The answer might surprise you? . And why she s running for President in 2020? And what s she really cares about children? And how much money she has in the most important thing in her life? And does she care about them? And is she really have them the most about them, anyway? or does she have a real interest in them? What does she really care about their future in the country? This episode is sponsored by VaynerSpeakers? Subscribe to stay free? Subscribe to Stay Free with Russell Brand and get 20% off your favourite streaming service, Stay Free With Russell Brand? Get exclusive shoutouts from the Stay Free Community? and much more! Learn more about your ad choices and more by becoming a supporter of the show on our new podcast Stay Free AF? at stayfreewithrusscrane
00:06:42.000And what a show you're going to be watching because today we've got some fantastic stories.
00:06:50.000Of course in my country, Britain, we've got a brand new Prime Minister and I'm going to tell you how this guy's going to save the world because of his lack of affiliations with corporate money, lack of ties to elites around the world, We've also got a story about Gavin Newsom, governor of Los Angeles, and how he's got new legislation being introduced that prevents you and your doctor having a private chat about the most intimate of matters.
00:07:15.000Also later in the show, we've got Dr. Bob Gill, who's a British doctor who refuses to let corporate health care firms run British medicine.
00:07:25.000It's a fantastic story that covers things like Walmart getting involved in medicine,
00:07:30.000information and misinformation you may have been given about certain medicines that we
00:08:01.000If you join us for the whole of this week, you will see sessions with Eckhart Tolle and Tulsi Gabbard that you can join live if you join up to our Stay Free AF community.
00:08:11.000There's a link in the chat that tells you how to do that and a link in the description if you don't happen to be watching this live.
00:08:17.000But, first of all, the midterms are approaching and Nancy Pelosi will not confirm whether or not she plans to run again.
00:08:48.000This is about time that people gave props to Andre the Giant for the way he inspired Shepard Fairey in his Obey campaign and Andre has a posse.
00:09:17.000When did you think that Nancy Pelosi was about anything other than children?
00:09:23.000Was it when her husband Paul Pelosi invested five million dollars in Alphabet?
00:09:28.000Was that when you... That's of course the parent company of Google.
00:09:31.000Is that when you thought she didn't care about children?
00:09:33.000Or when Paul Pelosi suddenly invested a million dollars in Tesla shares right after the Biden administration delivered its plans to shift towards electronic vehicles?
00:09:43.000Is that when you thought she maybe had some priorities other than children?
00:09:47.000The children Or was it when you saw her literally elbowing children?
00:09:52.000Was it this moment that made you think that Nancy Pelosi cared about something other than children?
00:09:59.000There she is, just caring for that child.
00:10:02.000She's giving it such a caring for, that child, isn't she?
00:10:05.000That is what Nancy Pelosi does if a child has the...
00:10:08.000The common decency to step into her immediate orbit.
00:10:12.000Elsewhere in the Democratic administration, the dominant political force on planet Earth right now, Joe Biden zones out mid-interview when asked about a possible 2024 presidential bid.
00:10:24.000I think it's not even appropriate to be talking to Joe Biden, I hope this doesn't sound insensitive, about living that long.
00:12:20.000This is the kind of information that's going to bring down centralised power and liberate you, no matter where you are on the political spectrum, to be empowered in your own life.
00:14:00.000Because of course his wife is Dr Biden.
00:14:02.000But Joe Biden, because he's made so many gaffes, because surely spin doctors and advisors must continually be saying to Joe Biden, look mate, stop wandering off in different directions.
00:14:10.000We're going to tether you by the nutbag if that's what it takes.
00:14:13.000We will fishhook you so hard by your scrotum just to keep you from wandering off stage.
00:14:17.000And don't do that weird thing where you go to 10 trillion, William Billion, Dr Biden?
00:15:14.000That is definitely a two longer hiatus for someone essentially referring to your wife and asking you the question, is your wife behind this bid?
00:15:22.000But just asking it in a sort of respectful way.
00:15:31.000Dr. Biden thinks that, uh, my wife thinks that, uh... Biden, who is my wife, which I knew, and I wasn't confused about it at all, because that's why I've just said it.
00:15:41.000That I, uh, that we're doing something very important.
00:15:51.000I mean, it's not the answer that he was looking for that no one was looking for.
00:15:54.000I mean, it seems like pretty abstract.
00:15:56.000My wife, as a doctor, is perfectly qualified to ascertain whether or not I should be running at all!
00:16:03.000I should be shuffling, shuffling slowly, dragging along like when a dog wipes its ass on a carpet.
00:16:09.000That's the only way Joe Biden should be moving now.
00:16:11.000But you want some sort of certainty in that response, certainty that was not delivered.
00:16:15.000But fortunately, while American politics continues to crumble and atrophy as a result of stooges in positions of power, all is fantastic here in the United Kingdom because we have elected Well, no, we haven't elected.
00:17:06.000Let me just check the facts absolutely, even though we're on Rumble, I like to tell you the absolute truth.
00:17:11.000Founding partner of Phyllene Partners, a major investor in Moderna.
00:17:16.000And one of the executives managing its US office.
00:17:20.000He's also, right, so that's his involvement in the corporate world, because you might think that as Prime Minister in a country like ours, at a time of crisis, after we've just had Barmy Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister that held parties the whole way through Covid lockdown, decorated his flat at taxpayer expense, Then sort of weirdly didn't act on a number of peculiar cases.
00:17:41.000Then Liz Truss, a person that shouldn't be trusted, I think, with her own profile and face and haircut, let alone a nation's well-being, to bring in a new dude that has got such strong ties to the corporate world, to the financial world, seems woefully irresponsible and doesn't seem like the change of direction That doesn't seem right, does it?
00:18:01.000The Prime Minister's wife doesn't pay tax in this country.
00:18:03.000a non-dom tax status billionaire, non-dom tax payer, non-dom tax status billionaire
00:18:09.000who claimed taxpayer furlough cash to pay employees all the way through lockdown.
00:18:50.000So he went to Winchester College, a training ground for Britain's rich elite, before graduating from Oxford University in 2001 and going on to study at Stanford in California.
00:20:00.000Then we can ensure that democracy remains meaningless, that the edicts tumble down from on high, and when the WEF guidance ain't enough, your affiliation with your billionaire non-domicile wife will keep you in check.
00:20:12.000And your historic relationship funding the Medina vaccine, which he will not admit that he's not profiting from, will keep you in check.
00:20:48.000Let's have a look at plucky, fresh-faced Rishi Sunak talking about his relationship with what he calls ordinary... Working-class people.
00:20:57.000Friends who are aristocrats, I have friends who are upper class, I have friends who are, you know, working class, but, I'm not working class, but I mix and match.
00:21:05.000Working class, don't take it to ridiculous.
00:22:10.000Isn't that one of your most favourite things in the world?
00:22:12.000To see people in the background of a news report.
00:22:14.000Whether it's that bloke in a hurricane casually walking to his car while someone sort of does something that looks like it's a French mime in a gale.
00:22:22.000Or just the classic, what's he saying?
00:26:36.000Because when, even if there's a brief moment where someone in the political sphere has the stones to say, I'm going to represent ordinary people, which means prioritising working, middle class, ordinary people ahead of corporate interests.
00:26:49.000You're not going to get this from a man who Yes, they'll drive a pretend car to stop people not lynching him.
00:26:56.000I'm not suggesting that this is a time for violent uprising.
00:26:59.000I'm suggesting this is a time for due cynicism when it comes to the aesthetics of the political class.
00:27:09.000Wherever you are in the world, you are part of a global community now.
00:27:14.000You have the same interests as the poor people in Pakistan, the same interests as the poor people in Sweden, Finland, anywhere in the world, the British, the Americans.
00:27:22.000There is one unified community now, and we should have far as possible from one unified government, decentralised power everywhere.
00:27:30.000So people can run their communities in their areas of expertise, understanding and knowledge.
00:27:34.000This, just another performative piece of politics, as the pretend car demonstrates more clearly than anything that he could say ever did.
00:27:42.000And I don't mean that with any malice towards him as a human being, because I've already said, I think he's quite handsome.
00:28:40.000Is this the moment where you announce something?
00:28:44.000It's like we've come from politics to... Well, I do think that, actually.
00:28:47.000It's one of the things that makes me sympathetic broadly to the idea of identity politics, that you are given, whilst there appear to be biological realities, when it comes to the expression of those biological realities, I feel that you are given templates quite aggressively and forced to conform to them in a number of ways.
00:29:53.000Our item today, here's the news now, here's the effing news, looks at Gavin Newsom, who I know you're gonna love, he's the governor of California, as well as, um, wanting to come between your relationship, we're not there yet, James, just for a note, for a thingy, that's out the back, right?
00:30:07.000I'm gonna do that stuff about opening the books out the back, so go to the front, go, like, go the other way, right?
00:30:11.000I don't need that stuff about Gavin Newsom there, what I need going into the video is what the video's about, alright?
00:30:17.000So don't, yeah, don't, like, that's out the back.
00:31:18.000Put the link in the chat, young Putin.
00:31:20.000Let's get Gareth playing that French horn.
00:31:23.000And also, let's ban him from eating bananas during the show, just out of nothing other than malice.
00:31:28.000Sheer malice to prevent a man accessing potassium.
00:31:31.000OK, listen, now we're going to show you... Did you know that Gavin Newsom just gagged your doctor?
00:31:36.000And I don't mean gagged as in, like, down the larynx, or even literally gagged.
00:31:40.000I mean that the state are going to determine what is misinformation and disinformation when it comes to advice around, you know what, we can say it because we're on Rumble, around vaccines and those kind of medications and medicines.
00:32:02.000California have just passed a bill meaning that doctors can be sacked for spreading COVID misinformation.
00:32:09.000If the state are intervening between a doctor and a patient, what is left of your world now?
00:32:15.000Do you want the state peering into your bottom?
00:32:18.000Do you want the state taking your temperature?
00:32:20.000If doctors can't give medical advice, what's next?
00:32:25.000Today, Gavin Newsom, the California governor, has just signed a bill meaning that doctors can be sacked for spreading COVID misinformation.
00:32:35.000Of course, any doctor should be sacked for not telling the truth, or not conveying medical information accurately, or doing something in a medical context that could be harmful, but I believe they've already got an oath for that, the Hippocratic Oath, do no harm.
00:32:52.000Now, Do you trust the government to intercede in the space that exists between you and your doctor?
00:32:59.000If, by some miracle, you can actually see one.
00:33:03.000For me, this is another example of government overreach.
00:33:07.000Of the government trying to control what you believe, what you see, what you understand.
00:33:13.000And given that the government likely get their advice and the information from a non-elected globalist body like the WHO, Funded by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, who ultimately is in charge of your body and your health.
00:33:28.000And we know, don't we, that the government received considerable revenue through lobbying and other means from the pharmaceutical industry.
00:33:35.000So where is your health in all of this?
00:33:43.000Let's see if there are any administrative or global bodies trying to come between you and your doctor and make decisions for ourselves, whether or not that's what we want for ourselves, our families, our loved ones.
00:33:53.000California Governor Gavin Newsom has signed legislation that would allow the state medical board to discipline physicians and surgeons who spread coronavirus misinformation during... The bill, AB2098, states that any licensed physician or surgeon is committing unprofessional conduct if they disseminate misinformation or disinformation.
00:34:11.000That should be bloody obvious anyway, about the nature of risks of the virus, the prevention and treatment of COVID-19, and the development, safety, and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines.
00:34:21.000If there's a sort of a backlash of doctors not agreeing with it, does that mean that there might be medical grounds?
00:34:27.000Is there a long history, is there, of doctors going, Well, I simply refuse!
00:34:31.000I simply refuse to apply Band-Aids to a bleeding wound!
00:34:43.000Misinformation is defined in the legislation as false information that's contradicted by contemporary scientific consensus contrary to the standard of care.
00:35:02.000Let's make sure that those terms are alloyed to and allied with The law would designate spreading false or misleading medical information to patients as unprofessional conduct, subject to punishment by the agency that licenses doctors, the Medical Board of California.
00:35:18.000That could include suspending or revoking a doctor's license to practice medicine in the state.
00:35:22.000Boot doctors out, suspend and strike off doctors that disagree with them.
00:35:27.000But already during the pandemic period, we've seen key workers, medical professionals, nurses, doctors lose their jobs for refusing to undertake certain procedures, which YouTube guidelines prevent me from elaborating on.
00:35:41.000But I suppose might relate to the recent admission by James Small, the Pfizer executive, who said Did we know about stopping humanisation before it's entered the market?
00:37:17.000In order for a patient to give informed consent, they have to be well informed.
00:37:21.000Well, I couldn't agree more heartily with the idea of you being given all of the information and being able to make a decision for yourself.
00:37:31.000This idea that doctors are so poorly informed that they're going to lie malevolently to their patients For a laugh, should be nipped in the bud.
00:37:40.000The more I read about this bill, the more I see how necessary it is.
00:37:43.000All these evil, cackling, wicked, vicious doctors out there just dying to tell you lies about necessary and helpful medical procedures.
00:37:51.000I'm glad Gavin Newsom stepped in when he did.
00:37:54.000Interesting that Gavin Newsom, during the pandemic, felt safe enough to even have that!
00:37:58.000Dinner party where people weren't wearing masks with all this misinformation and disinformation everywhere.
00:38:05.000He must have a special bad doctor rod somewhere in his governor's mansion.
00:38:09.000Oh look, there's another one of those sons of bitches trying to bad advice me to death.
00:38:14.000California's legislation reflects the growing political and regional divisions that have dogged the pandemic from the beginning.
00:38:20.000Other states have gone in the other direction, seeking to protect doctors from punishment by regulatory boards, including for advocating treatments involving hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and other medications that the American Medical Association says remain unproven.
00:38:33.000And I certainly wouldn't like to contradict the American Medical Association there.
00:39:12.000What about the explicit and now known relationship between pharmaceutical companies and doctors, in particular around the opioid crisis, which led to them recommending medications that were ultimately bad for their patients as a result of essentially lobbying within the medical industry?
00:39:26.000Isn't that something that More important and more in need of immediate address.
00:39:31.000Making sure that doctors aren't pressured by pharmaceutical companies into prescribing drugs and medicines that are not necessary.
00:39:36.000Doesn't that sound like that could be at odds with what's happening now?
00:39:39.000Disempowering doctors, disempowering medical professionals.
00:40:12.000The problem is that medical practice is rarely black and white.
00:40:15.000Much of the time, broad recommendations are intended to be tailored to the individual patient.
00:40:19.000Take the recent guidelines on booster shots.
00:40:21.000The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has recommended that everyone 12 and older receive updated boosters.
00:40:27.000Most doctors would probably agree that elderly individuals should get the new booster right away, but many might advise, as I would, this is her, not me, I don't have an opinion on this platform.
00:40:36.000That it's fine for some patients to hold off and time the booster closer to winter holidays.
00:40:40.000Some providers might not recommend boosters for children and adolescents, especially if they have already had coronavirus.
00:40:48.000This is a person who clearly agrees with vaccines and even coronavirus vaccines, but has a sort of scheduled approach to the administration of those vaccines that would be prevented by this legislation.
00:40:59.000So even if you're not a kind of Let's call you a conspiracy theorist, because, in the eyes of the world, you are.
00:41:05.000Even if you're not that, you're just a person that's like, hold on a minute, I'm an informed scientist, then it's still bad!
00:41:13.000AB2098, taken to the extreme, could put many practitioners at risk.
00:41:17.000But is it really right for physicians to be threatened with suspension or revocation of their license for offering nuanced guidance on a complex issue that is hardly settled by existing science?
00:41:48.000Indeed, another lesson from Covid is that science is constantly evolving.
00:41:52.000In a public health emergency, official guidance often lags cutting-edge research.
00:41:55.000Consider how long it took the CDC to acknowledge that coronavirus is airborne.
00:41:59.000Moreover, recovery from infection in combination with vaccination conveys strong protection,
00:42:04.000but the CDC still does not consider infection to take the place of a booster.
00:42:08.000If a young patient didn't want a booster for this reason and their doctor agreed,
00:42:11.000should this be a punishable violation?
00:42:14.000Again, this is clearly a very modest and pro, we might say, conventional, mainstream science analysis that still takes issue with this legislation.
00:42:25.000So you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to oppose this legislation.
00:42:30.000Medical practice is nuanced, even when there's clear evidence.
00:42:33.000For example, studies have shown that steroids are not helpful in outpatient treatment of patients with COVID-19, but certain patients, such as individuals with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and asthma, might benefit from them.
00:42:45.000And physicians need to use their best clinical judgment for their patients' unique circumstances.
00:42:49.000It's weird, it's like the creeping fog of centralised tyranny is now entering into spaces Where, like, that's their... their allies now are being choked.
00:42:59.000It's like the friendly fire of tyranny will eventually kill us all.
00:43:03.000California's bill is a recipe for medical practice to be subject to the whims of partisan politics.
00:43:10.000And it challenges the basis of the doctor-patient relationship, a fundamental principle that must go back to, like, witch doctors and healers and wise women and stuff, like.
00:43:18.000Well, what are you doing in there with the wise woman?
00:43:20.000You can't trust her with that toad and those good intentions.
00:43:24.000That's a time of deep division when trust in health officials has already been eroded.
00:43:29.000Bills that threaten doctors should be reconsidered before unintended consequences create far more problems than the legislation tries to solve.
00:43:36.000It's almost as if the objective realm of science and the functional framework of medical practice are now being infiltrated by ideology.
00:43:48.000That you can't be free in any of these spaces, that they would have us automatons, whether it's just ordinary civilians, or doctors that have undergone seven years of training.
00:44:00.000If they haven't been conditioned by going to medical schools funded by pharmaceutical companies, being lobbied by pharmaceutical companies, and there's still like no...
00:44:08.000Firing it all off, determined to do their best for their patients.
00:44:11.000Well, now we're going to legislate against it.
00:44:14.000Even the writing of Liana S. Nguyen, who is clearly a person that is pro-vaccine, and I have no opinion on that.
00:44:20.000I think you should do what's best for you, best for your family, best for yourself.
00:44:23.000Of course, why would I have any other attitude?
00:44:25.000She still sees this as dangerous, corrosive, anti-democratic, and a breach of the fundamentals of the relationship between a private citizen and their private physician.
00:45:08.000Well, we asked you and you told us the Zen Master says we need a new party to take state power and bring these criminal corporations to their knees.
00:45:28.000Corruption is so deeply entrenched, the only way forward is to rip up the way things are done now and start again.
00:45:34.000My Brain My Choice says, yes, political class has taken their obligation too far.
00:45:38.000It's all about control and power to the politicians today.
00:45:41.000Lisa Marie Shankle says, re-read 1984 by George Orwell.
00:45:45.000Well, it's funny you should mention that, mate, because we are doing books with Brad, with the philosopher Brad Evans, who is doing 1984 with us.
00:45:55.000If you didn't see the first episode on Friday, you can watch it now on Catch Up.
00:45:58.000It's a fantastic episode, a brilliant conversation between me and Brad, and I'll tell you a bit more about it later.
00:46:04.000On the subject of Rishi Sunak, Firegirl2020 says, Oh no, that's going to catch on!
00:47:38.000All our new Stay Free AF members, which means they get access to the unique content we do with Jordan Peterson, Eckhart Tolle, Jocko Willink, whose episode is on tomorrow, are saying things like, You're saying things like, give us some more horn, that's banana AS.
00:49:10.000Yeah, well, I guess what's interesting is... Sorry.
00:49:13.000What's interesting at the time when we're talking and we've just done a piece about your, essentially Gavin Newsome presiding over your medical autonomy, basically is what's happening.
00:49:22.000Gavin Newsome presiding over your medical autonomy?
00:49:25.000Yeah, and the relationship between... Gavin knew some people in the medical industry and he took their money.
00:50:07.000Well, he says he's quietly solicited millions of dollars in campaign donations from major healthcare companies.
00:50:12.000So while progressives decry corporate money in politics, Gavin Newsom has embraced the highly unethical practice of soliciting campaign cash from state contractors.
00:50:20.000So open the books, we've used them loads of times, they've done some great stuff on Fauci and money that he's received.
00:50:28.000So they found 979 state vendors who gave over $10 million in political donations to Newsom during his 2010-2022 election cycles.
00:50:36.000Meanwhile these companies reaped over $6 billion in state payments.
00:50:39.000So they lobbied To the tune of $10 million in campaign funding and reaped $6 billion in state payments.
00:50:46.000That means they were rewarded contracts by the California state that amounted to $6 billion.
00:50:50.000Let me know in the comments, let me know in the chat if that smells of corruption to you.
00:50:56.000I see one of them here, Gal, is that major healthcare companies gave $691 grand in campaign donations and yet received $1.9 billion in state payments.
00:51:06.000I mean, we're not in America, but this seems to be how American politics is run, isn't it?
00:51:11.000It's sort of a carousel of cash, people rising to positions of public prominence, telling you you can't tell the truth to your doctor and your doctor can't tell the truth to you, or only the truth as prescribed by the state, and then taking a big bunch of dollar from companies that have a vested interest.
00:51:26.000Yeah, they call it here legalized money recycling scheme, ultimately, is what's happening.
00:51:44.000Anthem Blue Cross, health share insurance provider.
00:51:47.000Received over $844 million in state payments while donating $69,000 to Gavin Newsom people that would help him along the way his campaign in the 2018 and 2022 elections.
00:51:59.000That seems like a brilliant return on an investment.
00:52:01.000You pay $69,000 to a campaign, you get back hundreds of millions.
00:52:10.000Yeah, you can also see that there might be a bit of a direct link between healthcare companies and a kind of top-down diktat of how doctors should be prescribing things to their patients.
00:52:34.000You will own nothing and you will be happy.
00:52:36.000Rishi Sunak, another product of the WF, rises to a position of public prominence.
00:52:41.000This is a global phenomena and people that talk about it, let me know in the chat if you think this is true, get called conspiracy theorists.
00:52:48.000But how are these narratives altering over time?
00:52:51.000Things that you couldn't talk about six months ago, things that you still can't talk about over on the What we call the dirty tube.
00:53:10.000Yeah, I mean basically we made an error suggesting that on the NIH website that they were recommending ivermectin when in fact they were doing clinical trials.
00:54:46.000Hey, earlier on we were talking about the significance of 1984 and what it alludes to and what it potentially prophesized and the value in observing the differences.
00:54:55.000Well, last Friday, and you can watch this right now because it's up on Rumble, and it's only up on Rumble, me and the philosopher Brad Evans.
00:55:02.000Gareth joined in a bit, but until that guy starts playing the French horn on demand, we're not interested in his opinion.
00:55:10.000So if you wanna have a look at a beautiful analysis of Orwell's classic book, join us next week when we will be analysing... I'm still thinking about hydroxychloroquine.
00:55:48.000The point about Orwell is when he says 2 plus 2 equals 4, What he's really concerned with is power in such a way that can say 2 plus 2 is 5, and not that you will just basically say it because you know it's wrong but you will go along with it, but you actually believe it.
00:56:03.000Prime Minister's on a conveyor belt and doddering presidents.
00:56:07.000It's clear to see that power itself is in some kind of shadow.
00:56:54.000Doctor, what do you think about this new legislation by the state of California to intervene in the private communication between patients and doctors?
00:57:02.000Isn't that sort of covered by the Hippocratic Oath, the idea that doctors must do their bloody best?
00:57:14.000I think it doesn't surprise me because there's been a drift of censorship controlling the narrative.
00:57:22.000And this brings in a legal sledgehammer to make sure that doctors and health professionals remain silent when they have concerns.
00:57:31.000And that obviously has patient safety implications if you silence concern.
00:57:38.000Already as a profession we're relatively um we're not an outspoken profession and if you introduce laws like this this will further silence when there's legitimate concern.
00:57:51.000Now way back at the beginning of this pandemic there was a lot of advice and I feel a culture of How do I want to frame this carefully and sensitively?
00:58:03.000It seemed to me that we were advised to get vaccinated not just on the basis of our own health but because there was an element of social responsibility.
00:58:11.000Now with the recent revelation from Pfizer executive Jane Small that there were no clinical trials on transmission And in fact that there was no obligation for there to be trials of that nature.
00:58:23.000This is something that we absolutely would not be able to discuss on any other platform.
00:58:45.000We, you know, you played clips of key people within, like Dr Fauci, who was saying, absolutely, this will prevent Transmission, but it didn't make sense along with everything else that we were being told.
00:58:57.000For example, they were encouraging people who had had the.
00:59:01.000The virus to still go and get the vaccine that didn't make.
00:59:06.000If you've already suffered the illness, you have innate immunity.
00:59:10.000That immunity is stronger that we we know now confirmed is much stronger than the immunity given by the vaccine.
00:59:18.000So they were using emotional blackmail, a sense of duty to your seniors and to your community to force people who are very low risk.
00:59:28.000For subjecting themselves to a vaccine for which we had no long-term data.
00:59:33.000And actually, Doctor, these are important values.
00:59:35.000If you think that the entire stance during the pandemic was undergirded by the idea But we have a responsibility to one another.
00:59:47.000Beyond looking after my own health, I have a responsibility to people in my family, but everyone that I interact with.
00:59:53.000How can you extract that sort of sociological notion, use it when it is potentially profitable, and then abandon it when it is no longer profitable?
01:00:03.000This is something that has bothered me from the beginning.
01:00:05.000The principle that we should be taking care of one another, that we have shared interests, is something that I absolutely fundamentally Agree with but the idea that that that that would be misused to promote needless potentially and allegedly needless procedures is I think it's tantamount to a type of bribery well you could class this as pharmaceutical fraud if the drug companies if Pfizer was telling
01:00:35.000Telling the health policy makers, look, we can prove that this blocks transmission.
01:00:39.000Well, they were misled and they need to go back and clarify the record.
01:00:43.000They must say, you know, there was a problem in the data.
01:00:46.000We didn't get full access to the trial data.
01:01:12.000And, you know, we weren't allowed to talk about whether this was a lab leak right at the beginning.
01:01:18.000There were some very creditable people that I listened to very early on in 2020 who said the genetic makeup of the virus, if you analyze the nucleotide sequence, they do not occur like this in nature.
01:01:32.000So there was serious, credible concern about the origins of The virus and that was more or less censored out of discussion.
01:01:40.000Doctor, that's fantastic information and only here are we free to discuss it in the depth with an expert like Dr. Bob who is not only a medical professional and a family doctor but also an activist for responsible medicine.
01:01:53.000for responsible principles around medicine.
01:01:56.000Essentially, that medicine is a private matter between you and your doctor and that it ought be focused on the well-being of the patient, not on the well-being of the pharmaceutical industry.
01:02:05.000Gareth, I know that these are issues that are important to you because we make this show together and we've made many of our essays on this subject together.
01:02:13.000What would you like to say to the docs?
01:02:15.000Because I know that you and I have sort of slightly different views on this subject.
01:02:18.000I mean, I think even apart from the effectiveness of vaccines and who should and who shouldn't take them, I think when you look at recent news that Pfizer are putting up the cost of the vaccine to $130 in the States, that's a 10,000% markup.
01:02:36.000It must be difficult to argue that that's anything other than profiteering at this stage, and it seems that we're in a place where, a bit like discussing nuances around, say, the war in Ukraine, that any nuances around Big Pharma have got to a point where they're beyond comment now, that we are censored from even criticising them.
01:02:54.000And I think that whatever your feelings about vaccine and who shouldn't take it, or who should take it, Surely it's impossible to argue against something like that.
01:03:04.000Why isn't that being spoken about, like, more?
01:03:08.000It's the capture of policy makers, our politicians and the corporate media.
01:04:06.000So they're going to go into the market officially, aren't they?
01:04:08.000The government's no longer going to cover it.
01:04:10.000And so I guess, like anything, they're becoming a commercial product now.
01:04:15.000Hence, we did a story last week about them teaming up with Marvel.
01:04:19.000So is it now that we're in a situation whereby they are literally entering the same kind of market as any other product?
01:04:26.000Yes, in America, it's the most commodified and commercialized healthcare system in the world.
01:04:32.000If you learnt anything from the pandemic, it was you need a system that looks after everybody.
01:04:37.000What Pfizer is attempting to do is profiteer and at the same time exclude everybody who couldn't afford, let's all assume that this is A good medical intervention where you're isolating probably the most vulnerable group, the poorest and the sickest who can't afford to buy vaccines.
01:04:57.000Now, as it is, there's a lot of doubt around whether people should be paying for this vaccine anyway, given the markup, as we've just discussed.
01:05:06.000But within the NHS, which is a publicly funded system, you can use something called monopsony buying power.
01:05:13.000You are the biggest purchaser of healthcare and you should be able to knock down the price of any drug you buy.
01:05:21.000It's guaranteeing massive profits to corporations and then the politicians get in return campaign funding and donations to their parties.
01:05:29.000Doctor, that's all the time we have to cover this subject on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
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01:05:55.000I asked Jocko outright Could the Nord Stream Pipeline have been done by Navy SEALs?
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