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00:17:15.000Jordan Peterson and we just did a fantastic Two hour long interview that if you are an awakened wonder and press the red button to become one, you can see straight away full two hour long conversation with me and JP.
00:18:06.000Then the pandemic came around, and he realized that he, like many physicians across the world, was being lied to.
00:18:12.000And you would have realized that, I suppose, maybe during the Sackler crisis, the opioid crisis, where they said, Why don't you try a little bit of risk-free fentanyl?
00:18:41.000Pfizer, sweet lady Pfizer herself, entrusted with undue power.
00:18:46.000Well at least they're admitting, I can't even say it, you know what they're admitting right?
00:18:49.000Let me know in the chat if you can see that.
00:18:51.000Can't say it while we're still on YouTube and if you're an awakened wonder watching this on YouTube, if you got the notification, I suppose I'm grateful for even that because we know whose tune YouTube dances to.
00:19:03.000The government say demonetize, YouTube says let's do it.
00:19:07.000Not over on Rumble, where people speak freely, where we can unify together.
00:19:11.000So Dr. Bob Gill's coming up a little bit later, and my apologies for my tardiness, because I loves ya, and I should nary be late.
00:20:27.000Well, you know, Willie, we've seen four pleas so far in that Fulton County case.
00:20:30.000Three of them have come from people who behaved in a legal capacity.
00:20:34.000And I think going back to Michael Cohen, there's a lesson here that Trump didn't appear to have absorbed.
00:20:38.000Hell hath no fury like a former lawyer whose own legal fees were unpaid and then is left to hang in the It's like the old saying goes, hell hath no fury like a former... Queen McSteve, are you drunk, Russell?
00:21:11.000And how long it will be guys because it's super important to our audience lots of people asking for that on the chat 13,000 people with us now when we get to 20,000 we will parade Gareth around on roller skates Okay, so see you the rest of the story from it's from MSNBC.
00:22:00.000If actually it's not about justice because they've not been paid their fees.
00:22:04.000So tell me, do you think this escalation spells the end for Trump?
00:22:09.000Put Y in the chat if you think this is the end for Trump or N in the chat if you think that Trump will prevail.
00:22:17.000And if we want to get our facts straight what better than a quick trip to Wikipedia where the truth is available to you uneditorialized except for in the view of course of Elon Musk who says that he'll give it a billion dollars if they change their name from Wikipedia to Dickipedia.
00:22:34.000I like this aspect of Elon Musk that's a pure prankster.
00:23:02.000The trickster in me rather likes the idea that Wikipedia will have to change its name begrudgingly to Dickipedia and still take itself seriously on their stationery.
00:26:48.000You only need to see his opponents speak to recognize that There's just a sense of personal connection, of emotional reality, of good humour.
00:26:57.000The automatons and who knows what forces lurk behind the masks, right guys?
00:28:30.000Now someone from the public space that I know you adore and love because Rachel Maddow, she has the exact opposite view of Donald Trump.
00:28:41.000She believes that if Trump were ever to be elevated again to high office, I think she says that he would execute the The press!
00:28:52.000I mean, do you think we have more free speech now, or less free speech now?
00:28:58.000Do you think that we have a better, more responsive media now, or a worse media now?
00:29:03.000Do you think there's more censorship under Biden, or more censorship under Trump?
00:29:09.000If you think there's more censorship under Biden, press B. If you think there's more censorship under Trump, press T. We're not getting to that 20,000.
00:29:37.000That's all true, I agree with all of them.
00:29:39.000That Congress should just work for him, the Justice Department should just work for him, that's a strongman form of government, that's not what we have.
00:29:44.000He'd cancel the news, like the news are done.
00:29:46.000That he wants to put MSNBC on trial for treason so that he can execute us.
00:31:10.000Or, do you want to see the skyrocketing demand for safe rooms?
00:31:14.000Apparently, everyone wants safe rooms, or panic rooms, as they used to be called, which I always thought was bad branding, because, you know, who wants to go in a room full of panic?
00:31:21.000So, if it's one for the- you'll- you will- you will- Good afternoon, folks.
00:32:06.000Before announcing an economic policy that you've named after yourself, don't march to the podium instead of the man that was supposed to introduce you.
00:32:22.000If you're watching us on YouTube, remember Dr. Bob Gill is coming up and in our conversation we're going to be talking about Myocarditis, pericarditis, new studies, new revelations, the corruption during the pandemic period and how he went from family doctor to crusader.
00:32:48.000Or do you want to see about the safe rooms?
00:32:50.000We're going to go for the, because of your, I mean, it's a landslide.
00:32:53.000And let me tell you, you can rely on these elections.
00:32:55.000There's no meddling going on here, baby.
00:32:58.000You resoundingly requested the insect stuff.
00:33:02.000And remember, if you're watching us on YouTube soon, you're going to have to click over and join us.
00:33:05.000And if a thousand of you did that right now, you would get the happy sight of producer of the show marched around just because of the sweet nature of democracy.
00:33:14.000So if you're watching on YouTube, click the link in the description.
00:33:16.000You're going to have to do that before we get to Dr. Bob Gill.
00:33:19.000And if you are with us on Rumble, remember, consider becoming an awakened wonder because you get access to fantastic conversations like the one I've had with JP.
00:33:26.000Jordan Peterson just now and I tell you we go on a little journey, but for now you will eat bugs and you will be happy!
00:35:16.000Just a few more of you on YouTube now who won't be able to watch Dr. Bob Gill anyway, because he's going to be saying things like, Well, I can't even say it.
00:35:24.000Like, a vaccine... Like, well, he is right.
00:35:28.000Did you see that episode of The Simpsons?
00:35:30.000He goes, I want you to call back and say the opposite of everything you just said, like about Homer, and then he lets Bart and Lisa listen.
00:35:36.000Dr. Bob Gill will be telling him about how effective vaccines were, and how you should just take medications without any consideration, and that the clinical trial process was 100% reliable, that there was no clinical trial information that was kept back, and there certainly was no Appetite for profiteering.
00:38:27.000But what position does that put Trump in?
00:38:30.000And is this gagging order, we'll be talking about this in a minute, about Deposing Trump, getting rid of Trump, making sure that he can't stand as an opponent to Biden, or is it about sweet lady justice herself?
00:39:03.000Remember, you can become an Awakened Wonder on Locals and you get I've realised now that the secret to our success is that man.
00:39:09.000If you want an hour of Gareth, you can just observe Gareth.
00:39:12.000If we have to put cameras all around Gareth's home and observe him, we'll do it.
00:39:17.000If that's what it takes to bring about democracy.
00:39:19.000If that's what it takes to bring about a spiritual awakening.
00:39:21.000If that's what it takes for us to overcome our divisions and unite against the centralising authoritarian forces that seek to control us all through our constant fissures and fractures, then we will put cameras in Gareth's house.
00:39:35.000But for now, let me tell you what we're going to do.
00:39:37.000We're going to tell you a little more about Donald Trump's ongoing legal travails.
00:39:41.000Is it about the observance of justice, Or is it about controlling the free speech of a political opponent?
00:39:49.000So if you think it's about controlling Trump, put C. If you think it's about justice, put J. And here's the news.
00:40:15.000But who is it that really subverts democracy?
00:40:18.000And is there any crime that warrants the closing down of free speech?
00:40:23.000And what is the agenda of Trump's opponents?
00:40:25.000To bring about justice or bring an end to Trump because they fear him?
00:40:31.000The question we're asking today is now that Trump's been fined for breaching his gagging order and former members of his legal team have pled guilty in the Georgia subversion case, where does that leave Donald Trump and his campaign to become president in 2024?
00:40:44.000And what is the agenda of Trump's detractors?
00:40:48.000Is it like they are objective guardians of democracy, righteousness and justice?
00:40:53.000Or is it that they fear Trump as an opponent and are just throwing a kitchen sink at it and trying to bring down Trump because they don't think they can beat Trump in the 2024 election?
00:41:01.000Now obviously most of you, I guess, presume that it's the latter.
00:41:05.000And because of a total lack of trust in what you might call The establishment, the legacy media, the judiciary, the state, careerist politicians who claim to be righteous but are plainly capable of the same corruption demonstrably in some cases.
00:41:21.000For example, Stacey Abrams denied an election result in Georgia not that long ago.
00:41:27.000The whole Russiagate hoax Was comparable to many of the things Trump's being accused of.
00:41:35.000I think it's a pretty strong case for saying that the establishment want to shut down all dissenting voices and remove any alternative to their globalist, corporatist agenda.
00:41:55.000Let us know what you think about this story.
00:41:57.000Let's get into it in a little more detail.
00:42:00.000In the day's other headlines, a judge in New York fined former President Donald Trump $5,000 for violating a gag order in his civil fraud trial.
00:42:09.000Judge Arthur Engeron had ordered Mr. Trump to delete a social media post attacking a court staffer, but it stayed on the Trump campaign website.
00:42:18.000A defense lawyer called it an oversight.
00:42:20.000The judge said, quote, this is a blatant violation of the gag order.
00:42:24.000They should change the name because gag order doesn't sound like something that the goodies would do.
00:42:35.000Defenseless youngsters were tied up and gagged in the living room.
00:42:38.000Now I suppose one of the big questions that emerges from this case is do you trust authority anymore?
00:42:45.000In order for a gag order to be imposed on someone, you have to, I suppose, loathe, mistrust the person upon whom the gag order is placed, and trust, admire and support the institutions that are imposing the gag order.
00:42:57.000But there's a strong suggestion, through polls not least of all, that every time Trump is penalised in this way, his support grows, his supporters Like him more.
00:43:07.000If you love Donald Trump, does this make you like Donald Trump any less?
00:43:10.000Does this make you think, oh bloody hell, he's violated a gagging order there.
00:43:13.000Plus his former legal team are pleading guilty.
00:43:15.000Or do you immediately think, oh well, the system is trying to shut down Donald Trump because Donald Trump, whether you like him or not, he's plainly not an establishment guy.
00:43:21.000He's plainly not part of that particular club.
00:43:23.000And pleading guilty from the former legal team members, well, They've clearly cut some sort of plea deal, presumably, to testify against Trump.
00:43:30.000Do any of you think, well, this is new evidence.
00:43:32.000Oh, no, I'm going to have to reframe my entire perspective of reality.
00:43:35.000I mean, who at this point watches the news and goes, yeah, that's reality.
00:43:43.000I can now continue with my life in full trust of these institutions that have not done anything in the last few years to make me mistrustful of them.
00:43:49.000He stopped short of holding Mr. Trump in contempt, which could have meant jail time.
00:43:54.000Meantime, a co-defendant of Mr. Trump pleaded guilty in the Georgia election interference case and got five years probation.
00:44:02.000It also came after another lawyer, Sidney Powell, pleaded guilty Thursday to misdemeanor violations.
00:44:07.000So what is the agenda of the gagging order and the ongoing persecution of Trump?
00:44:13.000Is it to bring about justice or is it to end Trump's campaign and bid to become a candidate and indeed president in 2024?
00:44:20.000Does the derailment of Trump require his imprisonment or would a conviction in this matter lead to him not being able to be on the ballot?
00:44:29.000Because, plainly, after everything we've learned about, for example, Hillary Clinton and the Clinton campaign and Russiagate and the Steele dossier and the Hunter Biden laptop and the impact that potentially would have made in the 2020 election, we can't just go, oh well, this is just what they say it is.
00:44:43.000So even if you aren't an ardent Donald Trump supporter, and even if you have doubts about these actions in Georgia, That still doesn't detract from the plain fact that you can't trust the Democrats either, who are plainly trying to create some censorship surveillance state, where the impediment of free speech, the curtailing, the censoring of free speech, the shutting down of free speech is an overall agenda, in particular with Donald Trump, but also everybody else as well.
00:45:07.000District Court Judge Tanya Chukkan, overseeing United States v. Donald Trump, issued a gag order prohibiting a leading presidential candidate, Donald Trump, from engaging in speech aimed at government staff, among others, during his trial.
00:45:19.000There is some disdain among conservatives for the former president, but if you're cheering on a judge who's inhibiting political speech on rickety grounds, you're no friend of the democracy or the constitution.
00:45:28.000Mr Trump may still vigorously seek public support as a presidential candidate, debate policies and people related to that candidacy, criticise the current administration, and assert his belief that this prosecution is politically motivated, Chookton explained.
00:45:41.000But those critical First Amendment freedoms do not allow him to launch a pre-trial smear campaign against participating government staff, their families, and foreseeable witnesses.
00:45:50.000Now that sounds reasonable and actually standard.
00:45:53.000But is that what this is really about?
00:45:56.000Is this about ensuring that justice continues with its unabated trajectory towards empirical demonstrable righteousness?
00:46:04.000Or is it to foreclose on the ability of Donald Trump to communicate effectively because he's a genuine threat to the system?
00:46:09.000Let's keep looking at it and work it out.
00:46:11.000Who is Chuck Tan to dictate the contours of a presidential candidate's political speech?
00:46:15.000What if one of the participating government staff or a family member is compromised by partisanship?
00:46:20.000Moreover, preemptively suggesting that without gagging, Trump will engage in a smear campaign is as prejudicial to the case as any of the inflammatory things Trump has thrown around.
00:46:29.000It implies that any accusation now aimed at the prosecutors is untrue.
00:46:33.000Trump contends that he is being railroaded by special counsel Jack Smith, the longtime federal prosecutor who works on behalf of Democrats and Joe Biden.
00:46:41.000You might believe that the special counsel is a chaste defender of lady justice, but there is ample evidence that partisan considerations are at play.
00:46:48.000Fears of a politicized Justice Department are real.
00:46:51.000As we speak, the head of the Democratic Party is being mollycoddled by the state in a very similar case involving classified documents.
00:46:58.000If you don't believe in the objectivity of the judiciary, then these kind of measures become unsustainable and non-applicable.
00:47:08.000Unless you think that the Justice Department is independent, unless you ignore that there are whistleblowers within the CIA and FBI currently making claims about the Biden administration, it's difficult to think of these as objective organisations.
00:47:20.000You're at a point now where you, broadly speaking, do not trust the legacy media.
00:47:24.000You recognise that what they do is amplify propaganda, normalise the agenda of the powerful.
00:47:28.000You don't think, oh wow, look at this, there's nothing to worry about, or oh fantastic, this is terrifying.
00:47:33.000We're at a point where the objectivity of these institutions has been interrogated and found wanting so severely that it's almost impossible possible to sustain the idea that there is a justice
00:47:43.000department that is from a place of neutrality and justice making value judgments on Trump or Biden or you
00:47:51.000or me. What it appears I think to all of us is these institutions have been co-opted and are
00:47:57.000now subsidiaries and secondary to higher interests that are difficult for us to entirely assess. So
00:48:06.000You can't say, oh well if the Justice Department have gagged Donald Trump, obviously Trump must be saying things that are harmful to justice, the justice system that we respect.
00:48:24.000I mean, that is how the system appears to work to me at this point.
00:48:27.000Whatever the case, the Justice Department now plays a big part in Trump's campaign for the presidency and probably his legal case as well.
00:48:33.000If the state's accusations can be spread throughout the media before a trial, why can't the defendant speak openly as well?
00:48:40.000It would seem to be unfair that accusations and cases can be made almost a totalitarian media campaign.
00:48:47.000As Joseph Stalin said, quantity has a quality of its own.
00:48:51.000If every single news outlet is saying the same thing, condemning a person, particularly if that transcends other principles of justice like innocent until proven guilty, you have the right, I think, to question whether or not there's another agenda at play.
00:49:05.000If you bring that into a context where none of us really trust the legacy media anymore, we know that they lie, we've seen them lying, we've seen their value shifting, and you apply that To a story like this one, where the judiciary appear to be biased in the favour of a particular political outcome.
00:49:21.000Seemingly, that outcome being, we do not want Donald Trump running for president next year.
00:49:27.000And what's obfuscating that is, oh, look, he's done this now, oh, he's done that now.
00:49:30.000I'm obviously not in a position to say, there's no way Donald Trump would tamper in elections.
00:49:34.000Who knows what Donald Trump's capable of?
00:49:36.000But what is clear is the agenda of the powerful is being supported, it seems, by the judiciary and certainly by the media.
00:49:44.000In the name of fairness, Chuckton contends that Trump does not enjoy unfettered First Amendment rights because he might intimidate witnesses.
00:49:51.000It's already illegal to intimidate witnesses.
00:50:23.000You recognize that the tendency of the world is to move apart into broader, wider, more democratic spaces, where a wider variety of opinions might be conveyed, where centralization is less likely, less plausible, and in order to ensure that the trajectory continues in the direction that the powerful would prefer, you have to manipulate the checker pieces around the board to say, ah, look, see, we have to shut down free speech because, you know, child pornography, intimidation of witnesses.
00:50:47.000Well, those things are already illegal.
00:50:49.000Laws already exist to cover all the other premises Smith has used to rationalise the gag order.
00:50:55.000That means the gag order is, by definition, unnecessary, right?
00:50:59.000The notion that a jury pool is going to be impartial in a trial involving a divisive former president who is not only a leading contender for the presidency but one of the most famous people on earth is absurd.
00:51:09.000And the notion a DC jury poll will be impartial when it comes to Trump is fantastical.
00:51:14.000There is little that can be done about it.
00:51:16.000But further gagging the defendant only feeds, at the minimum, the perception that this is all politically motivated.
00:51:23.000And I suppose that, the perception that this is all politically motivated, I suppose that points to a problem that's even larger than this extraordinary one at the centre of current American democracy.
00:51:31.000What do you think is the motivation behind various current wars?
00:51:37.000Is it like, oh, we have to intervene in Ukraine-Russia conflict for humanitarian reasons?
00:51:41.000China are becoming more and more aggressive?
00:51:43.000The very reason you need to stop free speech, or the reason they need to stop free speech, whether it's Trump or you or me, is because there is the instant immersive and global ability to go, excuse me, what about the semiconductor business?
00:51:55.000More broadly than that, as I've said for a very long while, if the Democrat party were serious about opposing Trump, they would change.
00:51:59.000They would change and become more reliable.
00:52:00.000that they can't have that conversation anymore.
00:52:03.000More broadly than that, as I've said for a very long while, if the Democrat party was
00:52:07.000serious about opposing Trump, they would change.
00:52:10.000They would change and become more reliable.
00:52:24.000There'd be no point in them if they did that.
00:52:25.000So what they have to do is ensure that you don't have any alternative and ultimately we'll vote for them out of a kind of weary exhaustion.
00:52:32.000Establishment media informs us that the gag order is just narrow and meant to protect the integrity of the trial and the jury pool.
00:52:39.000In her Solomonic wisdom, Chuck Tan cut the state's request in half.
00:52:44.000A narrow gag order limiting free speech is still a gag order limiting free speech.
00:52:49.000The fact that Smith was seeking even broader limitations only makes Trump's claims more plausible.
00:52:54.000Smith has also argued that Trump should not be afforded special treatment because he's a candidate.
00:54:10.000Even if you love Donald Trump, you know that, right?
00:54:12.000And you imagine that he's divisive because he's causing so much chaos, because he's not the usual type of politician that ascends these kind of spaces.
00:54:19.000But especially if you detest Donald Trump, Imagine just for a second, the philosopher's friend, the return of Christ and the, you know, the Christian's belief in the actuality of that.
00:54:28.000If Christ were to return and were to say, we're going to reorganize the world now in tune with ethical and spiritual principles that are based on fairness and justice and love and wherever we see injustice, We are going to address it and amend it.
00:54:42.000Therefore, I'm running for the candidacy of the Republican Party or as an Independent or heaven forfend as a Democrat.
00:54:47.000If Jesus Christ were to run, do you imagine that the establishment would go, Oh, this is good.
00:54:52.000Let's get this guy in charge so that we can all be saved.
00:54:55.000Or do you think Then like last time round, they would go, shut that guy up now!
00:55:00.000Kill him, say whatever you have got to say to justify stopping this guy, because he's got an uncanny ability to make ordinary people realise they've not been voting in their own best interest for many, many years now, and that change is possible.
00:55:12.000So if you don't like Donald Trump, just imagine it were Jesus.
00:55:15.000And I'm certainly not making a comparison between Donald Trump and Jesus.
00:55:24.000Would it be, oh, thank God, the Lord, you have returned to save us all?
00:55:28.000Or would it be, oh no, how are we going to run the world now for financial imperatives and imperatives of dominion?
00:55:33.000How are we going to keep people suffering through lenses of fear and desire?
00:55:37.000How are we going to lower the expectations of individual people, turn people against one another all the time?
00:55:42.000If there's a figure here now that's saying whoever you are, wherever you're from, there is love within you, the possibility of awakening is available to you.
00:55:48.000you now, you are all welcome here. Let's put aside our material considerations and find
00:55:52.000the light within. No, they wouldn't be like, oh, this is good stuff, would they? They would
00:55:56.000kill that guy pretty swiftly. But before they killed him, I imagine they'd gag him. No wonder
00:56:00.000Donald Trump has to be gagged because let's face it, he is not a typical orator. Here
00:56:05.000he is comparing himself favorably to Alphonse Capone. And it's not often you think that
00:56:10.000Al Capone's full name is Alphonse, is it? Today, a judge put on a gag order. I'll be
00:56:15.000the only politician in history that runs with a gag order where I'm not allowed to criticize
00:58:27.000And in addition I have the civil trials that are all coming out of the Justice Department.
00:58:31.000They've weaponised the Justice Department and the FAA.
00:58:33.000I suppose the challenge is for Trump's opponents is many people find plausibility in Trump's claims.
00:58:38.000Even someone like me who years ago thought the idea of Donald Trump being president was risible and during his presidency had pretty serious questions about the nature of his presidency.
00:58:49.000At this point I now believe that what Donald Trump actually is, is a disruptor to establishment incentives, imperatives and overall agenda.
00:59:00.000I feel like even if you take your own opinion of Donald Trump and put it to one side, I like him, I love him, I hate him, whatever that is, if you look at him almost like it was chemistry, what happens when you put a droplet of Donald Trump into the establishment, He doesn't fucking like it!
00:59:16.000It's disruptive and destabilising to the establishment agenda.
00:59:20.000Whether it's from a war perspective, the fact that he just says mad shit all the time, that's, for me, what seems to be most significant about him.
00:59:28.000And then I know there's loads of you who think, well, no, his policies are about economics, his policies are about, you know, you let me know, but...
00:59:34.000Certainly, plainly, his claim that the Justice Department is being weaponised against him seems, at this point, more verifiable and true to me, because I don't believe in the moral legitimacy of the state at all.
00:59:47.000So, the question that we're left with is, are these gagging orders and trials about finding the objective phenomena that we call justice, or is it the weaponisation of the justice system so that establishment imperatives can continue unabated and unobstructed?
01:00:04.000Sometimes, whether it's COVID or Donald Trump or the war or any issue, if you place a subject to one side and observe the surrounding phenomena, you can come to a better perspective, you know?
01:00:18.000But if you look at the behaviour of institutions around, if you look at the behaviour of the media, the judiciary, the state, you're sometimes able to see how they are converging around a subject.
01:00:27.000And I find it so difficult to believe that the incentives of the state, of the Democrat Party, of the legacy media, How can we help everyone?
01:00:35.000I'm not saying they are demonic forces.
01:00:37.000I'm saying that collectively the momentum is towards the preservation of a set of interests that aren't really in alignment with the lives of ordinary Americans or ordinary people across the world.
01:00:48.000That's why I use the Jesus Christ example.
01:00:50.000All of the values that coalesce around any spiritual practice are completely abandoned, it seems to me, when ensuring that the system functions in the way that's intended to.
01:01:04.000Unless the answer to those questions is yes, and basically it can't be, it never is, that would be madness, then you have to be open to the idea that this gagging order is about repressing free speech, not enabling justice to flow unimpeded.
01:01:25.000So, is that gagging order designed to ensure justice or in order to prevent democracy?
01:01:33.000Let us know and are you confident that comparable regulations wouldn't be deployed even if it were not Donald Trump but Jesus Christ returned to earth claiming that a new order could be established of decentralised legitimate democracies?
01:01:48.000What do you imagine the establishment would do?
01:01:50.000Welcome our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, or gag him double hard, lest he should unite us all.
01:01:57.000Surely now, as close as we're likely to get on this channel to a returning Messiah, is our next guest.
01:02:04.000NHS doctor, that in our country means the National Health Service, in the UK that means a general family doctor.
01:02:11.000But now, Public health activist, enlightened and awakened by events during the pandemic, Dr Bob Gill has become a prominent voice and ally for those of us, excuse me, that are questioning the way that the narrative unfolded during the pandemic.
01:02:32.000So, one of the stories that would be a great place for us to start would be this seemingly peculiar and surely not true claim that the version of the Pfizer vaccine that was initially tested and, as I understand, given to Pfizer employees was different from the initial round of vaccines released in the UK.
01:03:00.000There were two processes used to produce the mRNA vaccine.
01:03:04.000One was a quite expensive but a clean process, which was using our DNA to sequence RNA.
01:03:13.000And the second process, process two, which was used to mass produce the vaccine, was using E. coli and putting into E. coli plasmids and getting the E. coli to reproduce the mRNA.
01:03:28.000So it's a cheaper form of producing the vaccine.
01:03:31.000But the problem with that is you can get contamination.
01:03:35.000So you can get genetic material from the E. coli into your vaccine vial.
01:03:41.000Now, there's a very low threshold of tolerating contamination within vaccines.
01:03:48.000However, you know, researchers looked into this matter and found very high levels of contamination with DNA.
01:03:57.000Now the problem with DNA is it can potentially get incorporated into your own genome, and also the presence of DNA can actually spark anaphylaxis.
01:04:09.000That's when you get a severe allergic reaction.
01:04:12.000I don't know if you remember, but once the Pfizer vaccine came out, Later on, a week or two later, they started telling practitioners to keep the patients with you for 15 minutes, keep an eye on them for 15 minutes after the vaccine.
01:04:28.000Now, that was related to the potential reaction to the endotoxin from the E. coli contamination.
01:04:37.000And, you know, this research, initially done by Dr. Kevin McKernan, who's a very highly qualified, respected academic, whose whole life is devoted to, you know, researching these matters.
01:04:51.000He was part of the Human Genome Project.
01:05:44.000For example, I remember hearing very early in the pandemic period posts that would definitely have been censored that the The problem with this vaccine is it has the potential to alter your DNA.
01:05:54.000I feel like that was one of the kind of stories I thought, oh, even for me, a person that's open to almost any anti-authoritarian narrative, that has no trust in the legacy media, that has very little trust in Big Pharma at all, no trust in the state, surely it doesn't have the potential to alter your genetics.
01:06:12.000I thought that was sort of highfalutin, but you're saying that that actually is one of those conspiracy theories that's kind of true.
01:06:23.000So, you know, the DNA contamination poses several threats.
01:06:27.000It promotes clotting, it promotes immune dysfunction, and at some level it can promote cancerous transformation.
01:06:35.000Now that, if you have, you know, some of this DNA being Entered into into your own cells DNA, it can actually turn on the process of cancer.
01:06:45.000And if you add that in with immune dysfunction, then the risk becomes real.
01:06:49.000And that risk has been documented elsewhere.
01:06:52.000So, you know, this is coming from highly respected sources.
01:06:56.000If people want to look into this further, I suggest they look on the World Health Council's Twitter.
01:07:02.000And they've got a three hour lecture going into the detail of all of this most recent revelation and analyzing the implications.
01:07:09.000You're talking, I suppose, about SV40 DNA.
01:07:13.000That's specifically the name, is it, of the aspect of this malformant component that can induce, can be carcinogenic?
01:07:24.000So it was recognized this SV40, simian virus 40, a, you know, a strip of genetic code has the potential to be a cancer-promoting gene.
01:07:58.000What do you mean they can't identify what the function of that is?
01:08:03.000You can't explain why that was in the vaccine, you know, why that specific coding, which is recognized to be potentially dangerous, how did that end up in the vaccine?
01:08:13.000It wasn't required for the production of the vaccine.
01:08:18.000So between the testing and, you know, Albert Baller turning up on TV shows saying it's 98% effective, claiming it was a kind of wonder drug, that it was a moonshot, a few weird little things happened.
01:08:31.000They started using plasma out of E. coli that they hadn't previously been doing, and there's the odd introduction of SV40 DNA that promotes cancer.
01:08:42.000Are you saying that both of those things happened between trial-in and release?
01:08:47.000Yeah, they used a different, cleaner process for the trial and a cheaper mass production process for the vaccine that was rolled out to the public.
01:08:58.000Now, to use E. coli to produce mRNA in this way is not uncommon.
01:09:02.000The problem is the contamination issue.
01:09:05.000If your quality control isn't good enough, if you outsource the production to labs you've got no control over, that's where the problems arise.
01:09:14.000Yeah, I suppose you're alluding to the many stories about the lack of standards in many of the labs where clinical trials took place.
01:09:22.000They're almost too difficult to number and they're certainly difficult to locate due to the clandestine shrouding of these issues.
01:09:31.000Another thing that seems pertinent to talk about, you and I both being in the UK right now, is the British politician Andrew Bridgen last night, or earlier this week, a couple of days ago I think, Raising the question of excess deaths in British Parliament.
01:09:45.000There's a few things I want to point out.
01:09:47.000Like this phenomena of excess deaths is one of the things that's been masked.
01:09:52.000Many people that were in this space questioning the way that Covid was being reported on noted that there appeared to be an attempt to attribute to coronavirus itself Adverse side effects that could potentially have been caused by the vaccine.
01:10:10.000This 60,000 additional deaths that took place in the United States, I think I'm right in saying between 21 and 23, as was pointed out in, tell me the name of that author when you get a minute, James, was pointed out in the book about excess deaths, was, you know, a Vietnam War worth of casualties.
01:10:28.000America lost as many young people in the Vietnam War over a 12-year period as it did in that Two year period to excess deaths.
01:10:36.000How come excess deaths is still a difficult subject to talk about?
01:10:41.000How come there was hardly anyone in Parliament, that's our form of Congress, when Andrew Bridgen raised the matter?
01:10:50.000Is this going to be another of the strands around this period of time that's going to disclose important information to us?
01:10:58.000Well, I think that the politicians, unfortunately, have a vested interest in covering all of this up, don't they?
01:11:03.000Because they've followed the narrative of the drug companies.
01:11:07.000They've allowed us to do what amounts to a mass experiment, vaccinating the whole population against a virus which a lot of us had developed natural immunity to.
01:11:20.000So they were pushing this vaccine down our throat.
01:11:24.000And now that the chickens are coming home to roost, They don't want the impact of their decisions to be known widely amongst the public, so they might share some of these concerns.
01:11:35.000You know, Andrew Brigden and others have done a lot to try and bring this to the attention of politicians, and they're willfully being blind about what's going on here.
01:11:45.000Yeah, it does seem like that because of the many concerns, shall we call them, that sprung up around this period after the initial explosion of euphoria and excitement that accompanied the advent of the vaccine, which many media institutions tried to artificially maintain, When inquiry did begin, it was, I suppose, focused on the potential that the vaccine could have consequences that are worse than the problem that it was invented to solve.
01:12:20.000Now, As time goes on it seems that we're moving closer to that conclusion rather than further away from it.
01:12:29.000It did seem that there were a number of sudden unexplained deaths.
01:12:33.000It's another one of those subjects that people were discouraged from discussing even though it became almost anecdotally observable.
01:12:41.000The evidence of your own eyes when people were dropping dead on sports fields, young famous people dying and therefore being reported on, the number of You know the sort of the number of morticians and people working in various funeral services saying that they were seeing stuff that was Didn't make sense people within in our country their health service pointing out that deaths were being reported inaccurately At this point it's we've we've arrived now.
01:13:09.000We've arrived now at It seems to me a point where there needs to be a kind of reckoning.
01:13:15.000That even if you were to take this subject in isolation, away from the concerns around the military-industrial complex, the nature of legacy media, the obvious hypocrisy and corruption of the years leading up to coronavirus, but that period is simply revealed rather than created.
01:13:34.000So it seems that there's a necessity for a kind of a pandemic reckoning.
01:13:39.000But that's unlikely to take place, isn't it?
01:13:42.000When in this country and in America, broadly speaking, both political parties have a general alliance and very little appetite to hold to account the powerful interests that contributed to, if not caused, many of these problems.
01:13:58.000Yeah, I think you get to the heart of the matter.
01:14:00.000There is a distinct lack of accountability.
01:15:05.000But these people keep making the same decision, time and time again, and you can only conclude this is deliberate, this is part of the system.
01:15:13.000Yeah, another of the components of this has been the changing nature of reporting around myocarditis and pericarditis.
01:15:22.000That's another one of the subjects that just couldn't be discussed, that was regarded as a conspiracy theory.
01:15:29.000You know, when initial adverse events were reported or when anecdotally people talked about stuff like that, it was regarded as a kind of cultural heresy.
01:15:38.000But now Now Pfizer have been forced to confirm the increased risk of myocarditis in young males.
01:15:50.000And at what point do these shifts become tantamount to admission of a failure of the whole project?
01:15:57.000Yeah, they've been dragged kicking and screaming to this point.
01:16:01.000You know, people like Peter McCullough have done a lot of work, you know, the famous cardiologist, done a lot of work raising the awareness about myocarditis with the vaccine.
01:16:10.000At the beginning, you know, people were conflating having the illness with the vaccine, but actually you can do specific tests which show that what was present on post-mortem examination, special stains can identify that the protein within the heart The genetic material within the heart was spike protein produced by the vaccine.
01:16:32.000So you can do very clever tests to find out, was it the virus or was it the vaccine?
01:16:37.000And it was work done by, I think it was a team in Germany that looked at post-mortems of people with sudden death.
01:16:43.000to look unexplained sudden death, to look was there myocarditis and what was the source of
01:16:48.000that myocarditis. So the hard work has been done and I think Pfizer's, you know, eventual
01:16:53.000admission of the problem is, I think, their way of managing their corporate image and corporate trust.
01:17:01.000If you give a little bit you may come across as having an ounce of integrity.
01:17:05.000And I think that's what's going on there.
01:17:07.000Yeah and they're obvious and it's hardly necessary to state that the financial, institutional, corporate and global structures that undergird these types of issues and these types of organizations are Never able to be fully interrogated and investigated, because if you were to, you would no longer be able to sustain this model.
01:17:36.000With Black Rock's Larry Fink showing support, or I think vocalising support, for the Labour leader Keir Starmer, who's the Leader of the Opposition, equivalent I suppose to the Democrats in this country, does that further Demonstrate the impossibility of ever addressing these issues for established democracy.
01:17:55.000If you put together Andrew Brigdon talking to an empty parliament with Keir Starmer essentially being verified by the, you know, global financial interests, should we say, for the sake of simplicity.
01:18:09.000How, through parliament, through congress, through conventional democracy, a democracy that many people believe to have been entirely corrupted, are we ever Able to have the reckoning that appears to be necessary.
01:18:55.000And the politicians are looking for big backers because in due course, no doubt, after they leave politics, they want to cash up for their compliance with corporate power.
01:19:05.000So this is the belly of the beast, I'm afraid.
01:19:09.000And, you know, unless we get a critical mass of informed public, awakened public, There can be no reckoning.
01:19:17.000There can be no change to the system that is endemically putting money above the environment, above human life, above everything else.
01:19:34.000Yeah, and it's difficult to address that kind of pandemic without spiritual measures, without personal awakening, without a set of cultural values that very much are at odds with the current momentum.
01:19:47.000As well, I would say, Bob, with a culture that seems very fractured, where a lot of energy seems to be spent through the legacy media crushing dissenting voices and discrediting them.
01:19:59.000And ensuring that there is ongoing cultural conflict between people who in alliance, the kind of alliance that might be achieved if power were wherever possible decentralised and people able to run their lives culturally however they want to.
01:20:15.000It seems Very difficult to imagine that kind of awakening take place.
01:20:20.000So can you just for a moment talk on the importance of independent media?
01:20:24.000Talk for a moment on the kind of spiritual principles that appear to be somewhat lacking and need to be promoted, and how you have gone from being like a family doctor to someone who, like when you're talking and you're sort of quoting Mussolini, not favorably, not as a hero, but as a warning from history, Where do you see this journey going for you?
01:20:50.000Independent media, spiritual values, and your personal journey.
01:20:54.000Because it sounds like you're going to get yourself in a lot of trouble.
01:20:58.000Yeah, so, you know, independent media are clearly a threat to the narrative that corporate media generates.
01:21:05.000And that's why they're trying to shut people down.
01:21:07.000People as yourself, you know, other important voices out there are a real problem for them.
01:21:14.000So, you know, if you're getting attacked, you clearly you're doing something right.
01:21:20.000The spiritual point you make is important because the values we all share are to be able to look after ourselves, our families, and live a reasonably happy life.
01:21:32.000These are not unreasonable demands, but that is not allowed to happen.
01:21:40.000We don't have a welfare state or a social security system which is up to the needs that are out there.
01:21:48.000In order for us to not look up, not look at the people controlling this system, but to spend our time fighting each other, you need to generate these divide and rule narratives, be it on cultural issues, be it on trans rights, be it whatever.
01:22:06.000Every one of those narratives is used to divide the people at the bottom, so they don't have time or headspace to look up.
01:22:18.000When everybody, when all media are pushing a certain line, you need to smell a rat.
01:22:24.000When you have the CIA pushing out memes about trans rights, you have to suspect what they're really up to, right?
01:22:32.000You know, we pay lip service to respecting the rights of women and children in Afghanistan, yet we're quite happy to bomb women and children in Gaza at the moment.
01:22:45.000And where, you know, where there is no consistency in the application of stated principles, we need to be suspicious and start looking more critically into that matter.
01:22:57.000Because it seems like it's going to be very difficult for you to sit in a surgery and just, you know, as a doctor say, well, here's your fifth booster shot.
01:23:05.000I mean, what are you saying to patients at this point?
01:23:08.000And how is your, the conflation of your roles as a doctor and as an activist balancing out now?
01:23:17.000So, you know, when Asim Malhotra, who you had on your show, I believe it was last week, he produced a paper looking at Pfizer's own research evidence.
01:23:26.000And he sent it to me before he published it.
01:23:30.000He said, what do you think about this?
01:23:31.000And once I read that, he said, can you give me a quote before we get it published, put it out in the media?
01:23:37.000I said, reading that, I cannot in any good conscience give anybody an mRNA shot.
01:23:46.000I would be a total hypocrite if I came on here pointing out the problems and concerns out there about myocarditis and the contamination, and then to carry on giving them, although there is a significant financial incentive to keep doing so.
01:24:03.000There are perverse incentives for us to act against our conscience, for us to be selectively and willfully blind about what's going on around us.
01:24:12.000And you know, I've reached the stage of my career that If they come for me, I'm taking that risk.
01:24:34.000And if that means losing my job, well, so be it.
01:24:38.000It's frightening though, isn't it Bob?
01:24:41.000It seems that in the United States, Biden's given a green light to corporate control in healthcare.
01:24:49.000United Health Group's enrolment growth over the past decade is solely from Medicare and Medicaid, with taxpayers significantly contributing to the company's profits.
01:24:57.000The Medicare programme has transformed into the insurance industry's primary revenue source.
01:25:03.000Tell me how Biden's posturing around Medicare and Medicaid is actually just another form of profiteering, corporatism and monetization of the health industry.
01:25:21.000Yes, so Medicare and Medicaid are state-funded health provision for those people who are left out of the insurance-based system because they're too sick or they're too poor.
01:25:32.000They can't make money out of those people.
01:25:34.000So the state has had to step in as a last resort.
01:25:39.000Now, when the state was providing that care itself, There wasn't money being siphoned away.
01:25:45.000But what's happened over recent years is they've actually appointed people from UnitedHealth and other healthcare companies to run the federally funded service.
01:25:55.000So the revolving door, we have the revolving door again.
01:26:00.000That's allowed them to bring in, to loosen regulation and to allow the insurance companies to come in and run what is paid by the taxpayer.
01:26:09.000So they can siphon yet more money into their own coffers.
01:26:29.000So the plan is, whatever money is spent, be it through taxpayer or be it through the individual buying private insurance, these companies want a slice of the action.
01:26:40.000They're intermediaries. You don't actually need them to run a self-service.
01:26:45.000What you need is a hospital, doctors and nurses, and some drugs, right?
01:26:49.000You do not need insurance managers and CEOs and all these legion of administrators.
01:27:19.000I feel like you're covering in the film, The Great NHS Heist, how the corporatisation of our still nominally state-run welfare-oriented health service has been co-opted.
01:27:34.000And almost that's not something that's been voted on or even explained.
01:27:38.000What is the subject of your documentary, Bob?
01:27:42.000Yes, it's really to highlight, you know, what the NHS to corporations are a series of assets which are to be stripped or to be mined for the recurrent, you know, taxpayer funded money that comes in.
01:28:00.000And, you know, what the government should be doing is protecting the public's interest with our taxes, but what it's actually doing is selling us out.
01:28:08.000So, you know, healthcare can be divided up into three assets.
01:28:11.000You've got the real estate, you've got the patient data, which is an increasingly commercializable asset, and you've got the funding.
01:28:20.000But the control of those assets now is very much transferred into the private sector.
01:28:26.000And in order for them to maximize profit, they do it through the denial of care.
01:28:31.000And what the film tries to do is to not make a humanitarian case, to not make an ethical case.
01:28:38.000We make an economic case for why this is a disaster, not only for the sick people, but for the economy in general.
01:28:45.000Because the more you waste on healthcare, the less you can do For, you know, investment in infrastructure or whatever it might be, because there's an opportunity cost.
01:28:55.000If you're wasting 30% on overheads and CEO bonuses, well, you're not spending it on delivering healthcare.
01:29:06.000And it tries to merge the US experience with what's happening here to have a wider appeal.
01:29:13.000And, you know, in my dreams, I thought we'd be inundated with calls from Americans telling us, what the hell are you guys doing copying our crazy system?
01:30:04.000Dr. Bob's documentary, The Great NHS Heist, is available now.
01:30:07.000We'll post a link right away and you can follow him on X, at DrBobGill.
01:30:11.000He's worth following because he's a doctor who's willing to confront authority and willing to say to him personally expensive and risky truth.
01:30:22.000On the show tomorrow we've got Neil Oliver who you might know from GB News, you might know as a public commentator.
01:30:28.000He's someone who appears to have really captured a lot of attention through his ability to analyse and explain many of the events in recent years and also So I feel like I look a bit like him.
01:31:04.000Awaken everybody that you possibly can.
01:31:07.000Find people in positions of authority and experience that are interested in living in a new way.
01:31:12.000Accumulate a new system adjacent to this current corrupt one and vivify it with our powerful spiritual energy and be willing to engage in this spiritual war like these people.
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