Stay Free - Russel Brand - War, Wokeism & Wealth: The Forces Reshaping Our World – SF542

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:02:31.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

00:02:32.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:02:34.000 We've got a brilliant show today.

00:02:36.000 I'm dressed in a flak jacket for a reason.

00:02:38.000 It's because we're talking about war and who war is good for.

00:02:41.000 Has the truth finally been exposed that the Ukraine-Russia conflict was used by Western imperialist powers to take your tax dollars and now maybe take the lives of your family members, certainly if they're in the military, in order to benefit...

00:02:54.000 In order to benefit BlackRock and the IMF and the World Bank, etc.

00:02:58.000 In addition to that, we're going to be talking to Nicole Shanahan, who was Bobby Kennedy's running mate, about globalism, wokeism, and vaccines.

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00:03:30.000 Let's get into today's story before our conversation with Nicole Shannon.

00:03:34.000 We are talking about this story, actually.

00:03:36.000 Here it is reported in The Telegraph.

00:03:38.000 Keir Starmer.

00:03:39.000 The Prime Minister of the UK and, in a sense, a kind of remnant avatar of globalism in the same way that you recognise Justin Trudeau was, has pledged British troops and 12 billion dollars of British taxpayer money to...

00:03:54.000 I'm sorry, 12 billion pounds.

00:03:56.000 I'm not...

00:03:56.000 I'm English.

00:03:57.000 12 billion pounds of British taxpayer money in order to perpetuate this war.

00:04:01.000 Over the next few minutes, we're going to explain how the Ukraine-Russia conflict involves BlackRock, the World Bank...

00:04:09.000 And the EU. And essentially how you can see this as a globalist conflict.

00:04:14.000 The way that you've been deceived is staggering and astonishing.

00:04:18.000 And while it's going to make you furious to learn these facts and to see some brilliant reporting in The Telegraph, which is a legacy media newspaper, while it's going to make you furious, it's also going to give you a deeper understanding of why this conflict is so important.

00:04:32.000 First of all, let's start with Keir Starmer's pledge.

00:04:36.000 First of all, we're going to start with Keir Starmer's audacious pledge to lead British troops into war.

00:04:44.000 I'm prepared to consider committing British forces on the ground alongside others.

00:04:51.000 I'm prepared to lead British troops on the ground.

00:04:56.000 Let's just hope that this story doesn't lead to us looking at the intolerable image of Keir Starmer in a flak jacket.

00:05:03.000 If it irritates you that I'm wearing some pseudo-military gear, bear in mind that I don't have any power to send...

00:05:11.000 Children, adults, to war, or pretend that I'm engaged in a humanitarian mission when I'm actually advancing globalism.

00:05:18.000 This is a staggering story, and in a minute, you're going to see Keir Starmer in a flak jacket, which is just one above seeing Keir Starmer naked, if you ask me, in things I don't want to see Keir Starmer doing.

00:05:29.000 As well as this article from Su Ping Chang in The Telegraph, we're going to be looking at some reporting from Declassified UK, which is going to show us how...

00:05:37.000 This humanitarian argument is and has always been a mask for changes in policy inside Ukraine that enable them to legitimately claim aid, both military and philanthropic, which seems to be significantly getting directed towards other interests, and only creating a new Ukrainian billionaire class.

00:05:55.000 Tucker Carlson talks about that.

00:05:57.000 In a minute, we're going to see RFK explaining that we could have had peace three years ago, but that peace deal was scuppered by the British.

00:06:04.000 And by Biden.

00:06:05.000 So really, what Trump's doing now is blazing through a globalist project to generate revenue from this war.

00:06:13.000 Let's get into it.

00:06:15.000 Amid the devastating war in Ukraine, British economic aid to the country is focused on promoting pro-private sector reforms and on pressing the government to open up its economy to foreign investors.

00:06:24.000 If the aid was about protecting children and protecting Ukrainian charity and protecting Ukrainian territory...

00:06:31.000 Why is the economic aid focused on promoting private sector reforms?

00:06:35.000 That's something to mark out.

00:06:37.000 At a time when you're deeply cynical and suspicious about the actions of your government, the EU, the World Bank, globalism more broadly, and massive organisations like BlackRock, you would think that the approach to supporting this conflict financially would be, we better make sure that all aid makes its way...

00:06:55.000 Directly to Ukrainian people because otherwise people are going to be so cynical about it if they find out, for example, that it looks like we've been lobbying to change the law inside Ukraine so you can sell off a bunch of Ukrainian resources.

00:07:07.000 And in fact, when you see Trump say something like, we will continue to support Ukraine, but only on the basis that they will provide us with minerals, that they will back up these loans or this aid with resources, suddenly you realise all the difference between Trump and other politicians is he does publicly...

00:07:23.000 And explicitly what they do privately.

00:07:26.000 And it seems to me that Trump is more geared towards protecting the inhabitants of his country than a leader like Keir Starmer, who on top of taking advantage of you from behind, wants you to thank him afterwards and give him a lollipop.

00:07:46.000 Recently published Foreign Office documents on its flagship aid project in Ukraine, which supports privatisation, notes that the war provides opportunities for Ukraine delivering on some hugely important reforms.

00:07:58.000 Do you want to hear people talking about opportunity when you're paying £12 billion worth of additional taxes in order to support this conflict?

00:08:05.000 Do you want to hear phrases like, there's an opportunity there?

00:08:09.000 If you do, surely it's...

00:08:11.000 Surely it's in the form of the explicit and open Donald Trump who says we're not going to continue aid unless we get this.

00:08:16.000 Rather than this insidious, deceptive, claiming to be humanitarian, globalist con that's taking your money and potentially the lives of your family members while sort of asking you to say thank you and appreciate how kind Keir Starmer is.

00:08:33.000 The government in Kiev has, in recent months, been responding positively to these calls.

00:08:37.000 Last month, President Vladimir Zelensky signed a new law expanding the privatisation of state-owned banks in this country.

00:08:43.000 While this war's been going on, they've been changing a bunch of laws in order to make it easier for foreign investors and outside organisations to buy Ukrainian state-owned stuff.

00:08:55.000 Minerals, mines, things like that.

00:08:56.000 Now, why would that be happening at a time like this, when what we're supposed to be doing, I thought, was Putin's evil. 0.71

00:09:02.000 Putin's an evil external aggressor.

00:09:05.000 All we're trying to do is oppose Putin and survive and protect the Ukrainian people.

00:09:09.000 Why are all these laws being changed that create business opportunity?

00:09:13.000 Pay attention to that.

00:09:14.000 It's hugely significant.

00:09:16.000 In fact, it's defining, almost as if the humanitarian argument is irrelevant window dressing.

00:09:21.000 And really what matters are all these financial opportunities.

00:09:24.000 Let me know in the comments and chat what you think, based on what you know about your government, they're actually prioritising.

00:09:31.000 The Ukrainian government's announcement in July Of its large-scale privatisation 2024 programme that's intended to drive foreign investment into the country.

00:09:40.000 Large assets slayed for privatisation currently include the country's biggest producer of titanium ore, a leading producer of concrete products, and a mining processing plant.

00:09:49.000 So amidst all this talk of, oh, we've got to stand firm, we've got to help Ukraine, we've got to support Ukraine, round the back, in the back channels, people are doing deals for titanium ore.

00:09:57.000 Why is that?

00:09:58.000 You would think at this time, explicitly and almost religiously, the people...

00:10:03.000 People that are asking British troops to enter into a war.

00:10:06.000 French troops departing from the US, while departing from US foreign policy when it comes to this war, will be ensuring that every decision they make could under scrutiny look like exploitative will be ensuring that every decision they make could under scrutiny But here we are.

00:10:26.000 Looks like there's a lot of opportunities.

00:10:28.000 In fact, they're admitting there are opportunities.

00:10:29.000 If down the line we find out that the World Bank are involved, that BlackRock are involved, and that other...

00:10:38.000 Unelected bureaucratic bodies and corporate bodies are involved.

00:10:41.000 You might start to think, hang on, this is a war about globalism and resources, not a war about protecting Ukrainian people.

00:10:47.000 Ukraine envisaged privatising the country's roughly 3,500 state-owned enterprises in a law in 2018, which said foreign citizens and companies could become owners.

00:10:57.000 Remember, there was a coup in 2014. In 2018, the law was changed to allow foreign companies to buy their stuff.

00:11:03.000 So you're starting to look now at figures like George Soros, companies like BlackRock, Vanguard, and...

00:11:08.000 And indeed, Zelensky is publicly admitted, I think at the Golden Globes, like the...

00:11:14.000 Publicly admitted, publicly thanked, I think at the Golden Globes, JP Morgan, JP Morgan, BlackRock.

00:11:21.000 What's going on?

00:11:22.000 What is this really about?

00:11:24.000 Is there anyone left who believes that...

00:11:26.000 Is there anyone left who wants their personal tax dollars flowing into this conflict with the mistaken belief that it's somehow benefiting Ukrainian kids?

00:11:36.000 Whether you're an American service person, a British service person, Russian or Ukrainian, you're all getting screwed in this conflict so that they can benefit from passing up Ukrainian resources and sell them to Western business interests.

00:11:49.000 That is what it's about.

00:11:50.000 That's what it's always been about.

00:11:51.000 It's obvious, isn't it, when you think about it?

00:11:53.000 Another law enacted in June 23. They keep changing laws.

00:11:57.000 They're not changing laws to protect people.

00:11:58.000 They're changing laws to jail journalists, to control media, to cancel elections, and to grant opportunities to globalist interests.

00:12:04.000 How weird.

00:12:05.000 Almost like that's what the war is and has always been actually about.

00:12:09.000 Another law enacted in 2023 allows large-scale assets to be sold to foreigners or Ukrainians during the martial law regime.

00:12:16.000 Britain's main economic aid project in Ukraine runs from 2022 to 2025 and is called the Good Governance Fund.

00:12:23.000 Nice name.

00:12:24.000 Catchy.

00:12:25.000 One of its aims is to ensure that Ukraine adopts and implements economic reforms that create a more inclusive economy, enhancing trade opportunities with the UK. What a beautiful bit of bureaucratic language that actually reveals that the true intention is to create...

00:12:39.000 The true intention is to create financial opportunities.

00:12:42.000 It ain't about protecting Ukrainian people.

00:12:45.000 It's about exploiting Ukrainian resources. 0.97

00:12:47.000 We're just arguing who gets them.

00:12:49.000 Does America get some of them?

00:12:50.000 Do EU countries get some?

00:12:52.000 Does Britain get some?

00:12:53.000 Heaven forbid that the Ukrainian people's interests should be protected and preserved. 1.00

00:12:57.000 Doesn't it sort of make sense to you when you look at Zelensky and you look at some of the stuff Zelensky's done in the past, prancing about and leotards and stuff, that he's actually merely a person who stands...

00:13:12.000 He's not an actual leader, is he?

00:13:16.000 He's not an actual leader.

00:13:18.000 None of these people are.

00:13:19.000 Not Keir Starmer, not Zelensky.

00:13:21.000 They're ultimately the puppets of deep ulterior interests.

00:13:24.000 You know that and I know that.

00:13:25.000 What Donald Trump is, if you ask me, is a kind of wrecking ball in all this.

00:13:29.000 Whatever you might think about Trump, I don't think that there are people behind the scenes going...

00:13:34.000 Why don't we do this?

00:13:34.000 Why don't we do that?

00:13:35.000 I think it's all just candidly spilling out of his mouth like sort of mad patriotic yoghurt.

00:13:41.000 It's not like a behind the scenes.

00:13:43.000 I'm going to say this, but then I'm going to do that.

00:13:45.000 Of course there is some statecraft going on.

00:13:46.000 I'm not suggesting that there isn't.

00:13:47.000 But the reason that Donald Trump is an anomaly and a problem is not because he is deceptive and duplicitous, but because he's an individualistic tycoon who, in this position of power, can disrupt globalism.

00:13:59.000 That's what I think.

00:14:00.000 Let me know what you think.

00:14:01.000 It notes, ironically, That's a lot of words to say we are going to rip off the vulnerable Ukrainian people by getting their state-owned resources and selling them to companies that are probably,

00:14:27.000 if you investigate it, connected to groups, connected to individuals like George Soros.

00:14:31.000 Do the research for us, if you would.

00:14:32.000 I bet they bloody well are.

00:14:33.000 Britain's privatisation agenda in Ukraine is part of a wider push by the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, which routinely promote privatisation in low-income countries, often as a condition of providing aid.

00:14:45.000 The reason this conflict is unique is not because of the aggression of Putin, but because media reporting now exposes the complexity of these types of conflicts.

00:14:55.000 If that were not true, you wouldn't have the looming spectre of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank entering.

00:15:02.000 These kind of pressures always exist in conflicts of this nature, i.e. those organisations don't lend money to countries that are in crisis unless those countries say, we're going to take on a bunch of debt from you or we're going to sell your favoured partners a bunch of our resources.

00:15:17.000 That's how globalism works.

00:15:19.000 What we are living in now is globalism versus emergent nationalism.

00:15:24.000 Trump, Trump, Trump, the yellow vests, Trump in America, the yellow vests in France, all these kind of nativist political figures that say we're putting our country in their populations first.

00:15:37.000 You might regard that as, I don't know, exclusive or racist or a whole bunch of things.

00:15:41.000 The truth is, even if it is evil, it's the lesser of two evils when it comes to the mendacity of globalism.

00:15:52.000 Because these World Bank International Monetary Fund BlackRock gigs, that's Lucifer.

00:15:59.000 That's the stuff that will take over the world, tyrannise and chain you.

00:16:02.000 And if you think that's hyperbolic, just look at the facts.

00:16:05.000 They're willing to send UK troops into a war that's none of their business against an opponent that they can't beat in order to carve up Ukrainian resources and sell them to big corporations. 0.85

00:16:14.000 Not for you, not for me, not for your children, and certainly not for the troops that will be invited to lay down their lives for this.

00:16:21.000 But for globalist corporate interests.

00:16:23.000 I'd say that's evil.

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00:17:30.000 Zelensky's recent announcement on state-owned banks is based on World Bank recommendations and gives international donors a role in selecting financial advisors for the sales.

00:17:38.000 So, Zelensky has just changed the law around state-owned banks because the World Bank has told him to do it.

00:17:45.000 Do you think these policies will somehow favour the international finance industry?

00:17:51.000 I'm gripped.

00:17:52.000 I wonder.

00:17:53.000 Earlier this month, the World Bank announced it was allocating $593 million to support Ukraine's private sector, focused on improving the regulatory environment.

00:18:02.000 Improving the regulatory environment means we're taking over.

00:18:04.000 You're going to change the regulations so it's beneficial to the interests we represent.

00:18:08.000 That's colonialism.

00:18:09.000 That's imperialism.

00:18:10.000 That's what people who voted for Trump voted against.

00:18:12.000 That's why Trump's position on this war, and America's therefore, is going to alter radically.

00:18:17.000 And that's why it's insane that Britain is saying we're going to dedicate troops to this conflict, because without the United States of America...

00:18:23.000 You can no longer mask the globalist nature of this endeavour, which is unpopular.

00:18:28.000 No one wants it.

00:18:28.000 Does anyone in the UK want to pay more money or want to send their military into this conflict?

00:18:33.000 The answer to that is a succinct, monosyllabic no.

00:18:36.000 One of the conditions imposed by the IMF in last year's $15 billion loan to the Ukraine is for the government in Kiev to produce a strategy on privatisation and for that strategy to be favourable.

00:18:46.000 Similarly, the EU's recently agreed Ukraine plan, which will provide 50 billion euros to Ukraine in grants and loans during 24 to 27, is also conditional on, among other things, the entry into force of the legislation on corporate governance of state-owned enterprises.

00:19:01.000 Now, I know this sounds a little bit boring at points, but what they're essentially saying is support in this war is contingent on Ukraine carving up state-owned assets and selling them to our preferred partners.

00:19:12.000 That's disgusting enough on its own.

00:19:13.000 But when you're inviting British kids... 0.99

00:19:16.000 French kids, American kids, were it not for Trump, to die in this conflict, it becomes nefarious, almost beyond measure and imagination.

00:19:23.000 And when you think back to Keir Starmer saying, it is with great regret and reluctance that I'm going to put on a flak jacket and pretend to care about war, you realise what you're dealing with.

00:19:34.000 Just because it's boring, it doesn't mean it's not evil.

00:19:37.000 Rustam Umryov, the head of the State Property Fund, which presides over Ukraine's privatization strategy, said in July that international partners support the start of large-scale privatization and are ready to facilitate pitches to the business communities in their countries.

00:19:52.000 The search for strategic investors is an opportunity for their development and a path to leadership in the world market, he added.

00:19:58.000 Foreign investment in rebuilding Ukraine's economy is being coordinated by the world's largest asset manager.

00:20:05.000 BlackRock.

00:20:06.000 Oh, wow.

00:20:06.000 So we've got World Bank, IMF and BlackRock involved in this.

00:20:10.000 Wait a minute.

00:20:10.000 Weren't we about protecting people in Kiev and orphanages and children?

00:20:14.000 And why does Hannah Biden work at Burisma anyway? 1.00

00:20:17.000 The Ukrainian government notes that privatisation can benefit the country by reducing subsidies, provide income to the state budget, and increase public benefits through market-oriented products and services.

00:20:26.000 It's essentially an attempt to hollow out Ukraine. 0.99

00:20:27.000 So there is no Ukraine. 0.71

00:20:28.000 There's the word Ukraine.

00:20:29.000 There's a flag of Ukraine.

00:20:30.000 There's a puppet president in the figure of Zelensky.

00:20:33.000 And behind the scenes, all sorts of globalist interests are siphoning off money and resources.

00:20:39.000 And that wouldn't be such a bad thing.

00:20:41.000 We're not for the fact.

00:20:42.000 And on top of that...

00:20:43.000 All of your kids.

00:20:44.000 And on top of that, British troops are going to be asked to lay down their lives in order to facilitate this, and you're going to pay for it through your work.

00:20:51.000 Did you vote for that?

00:20:52.000 Do you want it?

00:20:53.000 The key goal for Western states supposedly aiding Ukraine's privatization process is to find access to new markets and to bring Ukraine into their commercial orbit, fully detaching it from their rival, Russia.

00:21:03.000 A sign the Ukrainian public needs persuading about this Western Bank privatization is that the US-UK Sawyer Project, that's the name of the bureaucratic endeavor to...

00:21:12.000 Vulcanize, the irony, Ukrainian assets. 0.78

00:21:15.000 Includes a public relations dimension.

00:21:17.000 One of its goals is to assist the government in strategic communications to enhance reforms.

00:21:21.000 That's why Zelensky has become a kind of celebrity, why he's always cropping up at award ceremonies and stuff like that and dolled up in a flak jacket.

00:21:28.000 This now affects me because I've got skin in the game because I'm a British person and therefore I pay British taxes and therefore I know people in the British military.

00:21:36.000 And even if I didn't, I wouldn't want these people to be laying down their lives on the basis of a disgusting lie.

00:21:43.000 Since the start of this conflict...

00:21:45.000 Now the fact is that since the beginning of the conflict, Britain has been supporting the globalist agenda, particularly when Biden was in power.

00:21:51.000 Now Biden's not in power, so the true nefarious nature of this conflict is being exposed.

00:21:55.000 Let's have a look at how the legacy media try to frame this in a beneficial way.

00:21:59.000 The UK has been one of Ukraine's closest and strongest allies.

00:22:03.000 We're close, we're strong.

00:22:05.000 That's what we are, close and strong.

00:22:07.000 Doesn't matter if the Prime Minister is that blonde one, that brown one, or this new boring one, we're doing the same thing. 0.94

00:22:13.000 Almost like it don't matter who you vote for, you're gonna get someone who's gonna send your taxes and your children into this unwinnable, pointless, appalling war.

00:22:21.000 More often than not...

00:22:22.000 Putting our money where our mouth is.

00:22:24.000 Yeah, we're really hard.

00:22:25.000 We're putting our money where our mouth is, which is actually unhygienic.

00:22:29.000 The UK has trained Ukrainian soldiers previously.

00:22:34.000 And Keir Starmer says he's willing to commit British troops to potential peacekeeping.

00:22:38.000 Yeah, you know, just peacekeeping.

00:22:40.000 And there we have it.

00:22:41.000 Keir Starmer in a flat jacket, shaking hands.

00:22:44.000 Exactly what you want.

00:22:44.000 A lawyer and a bureaucrat.

00:22:46.000 a person that would deny everything until you can prove otherwise and then simply blame somebody else for whatever problem he's been previously denying, is now in charge of British lives.

00:22:58.000 Sometimes I realise that they've made politics so boring that we don't think about the people that we put in charge, the people that we put in power.

00:23:05.000 We're giving them an incredible moral responsibility.

00:23:08.000 And if that moral responsibility is not undergirded by some kind of supreme force, rather than arbitrary notions of right and wrong, they're always boiled down to expedience in their cases.

00:23:18.000 He says, oh, it's expedient to support Ukraine because we'll be able to balkanise their country and all of their state assets and sell it off again.

00:23:23.000 So, yeah, it don't matter if British taxpayer money, it's not my money, British taxpayer money goes towards it.

00:23:28.000 It don't matter if British lives go towards it.

00:23:29.000 But that's all been exposed now because you've got a populist leader in the United States of America.

00:23:34.000 So you can't just lay a sort of a dainty little tablecloth over the whole country.

00:23:39.000 Lay a dainty little tablecloth over the whole abortion. 0.90

00:23:41.000 You're going to be confronted with the fact that this is not a popular war, this isn't what people want to do, and it's not even what the United States are going to do now.

00:23:48.000 For there are questions about how feasible that is.

00:23:51.000 It is not going to be very easy to do it.

00:23:53.000 First place, you've got all the constraints on the British side.

00:23:55.000 We don't have many troops.

00:23:57.000 Bit of a problem, bit of a problem to send troops into war if you don't have any troops.

00:24:01.000 It seems like Britain's army... 0.56

00:24:03.000 Are not prepared or ready to enter into a conflict of this nature, even if it's just as a peacekeeping force or whatever euphemism they're using to mask the fact that British taxpayer dollars and potentially British...

00:24:14.000 Taxpayer power, British taxpayer money, and the British military are being sacrificed in the pursuit of a goal that seems increasingly dubious.

00:24:24.000 If it weren't dubious, why are BlackRock, World Bank and IMF involved?

00:24:29.000 These are not archangels.

00:24:31.000 And then BlackRock came and said unto Mary, you will have a boy child.

00:24:35.000 And then IMF guarded the gates of Eden.

00:24:38.000 And then the World Bank came and said, do not be afraid, for you are a chosen one.

00:24:42.000 These institutions, these...

00:24:44.000 Bureaucracies are ultimately about supporting elites in ways that can't be impacted, curtailed or incurred by the will of the people.

00:24:51.000 That's what they're there for.

00:24:52.000 That's what BlackRock, IMF, World Bank is.

00:24:55.000 The preservation of elite power no matter what you do politically.

00:24:59.000 The problem is the United States of America has just berserked itself.

00:25:03.000 Berserked itself into a new populist era, and whether the changes are a net gain or a net loss, we'll soon see, won't we?

00:25:11.000 But what appears to be the case at the moment is more peace and less willingness to cough up and fund these globalist wars.

00:25:17.000 And even promising more spending isn't going to answer that immediate question.

00:25:23.000 Because it takes some years to get them, recruit them, train them, and so on.

00:25:27.000 The UK Armed Forces are more than 5,000 personnel below their target size at the moment.

00:25:32.000 It's like people don't want to join an army when they're told the whole time that they're racist and that they're worthless and they see that their country's being driven off the edge of a cliff in pursuit of globalist goals.

00:25:43.000 That's weird, that, that people don't want to lay down their lives and die when you've abandoned all of their values, when you've broken down all of their institutions, when you've told them that they're worthless.

00:25:51.000 That's so weird.

00:25:53.000 At the moment, the UK currently spends 2.3% of GDP on defence.

00:25:58.000 Starmer has pledged to increase this to 2.5%, but it's not clear when that will happen.

00:26:04.000 Hmm.

00:26:04.000 And none of us are sort of discussing whether or not we want this.

00:26:07.000 They use the veil of war in order to take your money and to give it to elite organizations and institutions.

00:26:14.000 Well, how would you feel if you were to discover that a great deal of these resources are finding their way not into the battlefields or Ukrainian orphanages, but into the pockets of already rich individuals?

00:26:23.000 Some of them are Ukrainian, but while simultaneously facilitating the profits and power of organizations like the World Bank, the IMF, and BlackRock, etc.

00:26:32.000 Probably not good, right?

00:26:34.000 Together we'll be able to start the difficult war of rebuilding Ukraine, our cities, our economy, our infrastructure.

00:26:45.000 It is already clear that this will be the largest economic project of our time in Europe.

00:26:53.000 And just in case you think I'm a hysterical conspiracy theorist, and hey, maybe sometimes I am, here's Vladimir Zelensky himself name-checking the powers that are ultimately going to benefit and facilitate this advancing globalist agenda.

00:27:07.000 We have already managed to attract attention and have cooperation with such giants of the international financial and investment world as BlackRock, J.P. Morgan and Golden Sox.

00:27:20.000 Such American brands as Starlink or Westinghouse have already become part of our Ukrainian way.

00:27:28.000 It's not the Olympics where you've got McDonald's hypocritically sponsoring an event that's about health and fitness and denigrating Jesus Christ.

00:27:36.000 You saw the opening ceremony, right?

00:27:38.000 What a coincidence.

00:27:39.000 This is a war in which people are going to die.

00:27:42.000 and those organisations is the revelation of the power that ultimately precipitates and necessitates ongoing war.

00:27:49.000 And for Zelensky to say, Ukrainian, why?

00:27:52.000 What do you mean?

00:27:54.000 What do you mean by that?

00:27:55.000 You mean the way of the Ukrainian people?

00:27:57.000 It's like they're working, tilling a field, or getting some stuff done, or singing folk songs to one another.

00:28:03.000 There ain't no Ukrainian way if you yield to the World Bank and the IMF and BlackRock.

00:28:10.000 That's globalism.

00:28:10.000 Part of what globalism means, as you know, if you're living in a Western country, is your borders will be flooded, your assets will be stripped, and elite powers that you cannot reach or even conceptualize sometimes will seize the reins of your nation and seize the lives of your children.

00:28:26.000 Your brilliant defense systems, such as HIMARS or Bradley's.

00:28:33.000 Also, Tucker Carlson has some pretty unique and interesting insights that completely alter the way you see this conflict.

00:28:39.000 The Alps, which is probably the most expensive town in the world.

00:28:42.000 I was not there to ski for the record.

00:28:43.000 But the whole town is Ukrainian.

00:28:46.000 You know, all the visitors are Ukrainian, and they're rolling into air maze and dropping a million dollars in an afternoon, okay? 1.00

00:28:51.000 So it's all through Europe you see this.

00:28:53.000 The richest people are the Ukrainians.

00:28:55.000 That money is ours.

00:28:55.000 It belongs to me and you and every other American taxpayer.

00:28:58.000 That's where it's going.

00:28:59.000 Second fact, fact, not guess, fact is Ukrainian military is selling a huge percentage, up to half of the arms that we send them.

00:29:06.000 Half.

00:29:07.000 And I'm not guessing about this.

00:29:08.000 I know that for a fact, a fact, okay?

00:29:11.000 Not speculation.

00:29:12.000 And they're selling it, and a lot of it's winding up with the drug cartels on our border.

00:29:17.000 So this is a crime, what's happening.

00:29:22.000 Our intel agencies are fully aware of this.

00:29:24.000 You tell me they're not profiting from this.

00:29:25.000 Of course, you think the CIA is not profiting from this?

00:29:27.000 Yes, they are.

00:29:28.000 I can't prove that, but I believe that.

00:29:30.000 What, they don't know this?

00:29:31.000 I know this, but they don't know this?

00:29:32.000 They know this.

00:29:33.000 And no one is saying it.

00:29:35.000 Like, no American seems aware of this.

00:29:37.000 Tucker Carlson there exemplified the challenge of modern political life.

00:29:42.000 Now, these matters are not...

00:29:44.000 You can have populist good communicators giving you insights on the true nature of war and the true nature of power.

00:29:52.000 You might believe Tucker.

00:29:53.000 You might deny Tucker.

00:29:54.000 You might oppose Tucker.

00:29:55.000 You might disagree with Tucker.

00:29:55.000 But it seems pretty likely, doesn't it, that the CIA and deep state organizations have relationships with the Ukrainian deep state and ultimately facilitate the maneuvering and movements of groups like the IMF and the World Bank and BlackRock, etc.

00:30:07.000 And when someone like Trump gets into power and starts saying, we're going to start sacking everybody and getting rid of the deep state, it's a massive disruption to...

00:30:13.000 to global elite power.

00:30:15.000 Ensconced within American institutions that are also funded by you, CIA, FBI, etc., are all sorts of bureaucrats that have the kind of affiliations that mean that that trajectory can go uninterrupted.

00:30:26.000 The CIA are in general support of it.

00:30:27.000 The IMF Institute are in general support of it.

00:30:29.000 BlackRock are in general support of it.

00:30:30.000 That is the nature of this coordination.

00:30:32.000 Now we've got this different type of reporting, these different type of communications, where someone like Tucker Carlson or Lex Friedman or Joe Rogan or whoever can just get on your phone and tell you the facts of the matter.

00:30:43.000 No wonder you have to create new categories, misinformation, disinformation.

00:30:47.000 Really what's required is the ability to continue business as usual.

00:30:52.000 That's what they're trying to do in Ukraine right now, at least the British are, while clearly in Trump's America a different trajectory is being explored.

00:31:00.000 And then you need the ability to prevent people communicating about it.

00:31:05.000 In April 2022...

00:31:09.000 But this conflict's been going for a while.

00:31:11.000 Let's have a look at what Bobby Kennedy said about events way back a few years ago.

00:31:15.000 President Biden sent Boris Johnson to Ukraine to force President Zelensky to tear up a peace agreement that he and the Russians had already signed and the Russians were withdrawing troops from Kiev and Donbass and Lugans.

00:31:31.000 And that peace agreement would have brought...

00:31:34.000 East of the region and would have allowed Donbass and Lugansk to remain part of Ukraine.

00:31:39.000 President Biden stated that month that his objective in the war was regime change in Russia.

00:31:47.000 His Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin simultaneously explained that America's purpose in the war was to exhaust the Russian army to degrade its capacity to fight anywhere else in the world.

00:32:00.000 These objectives, of course, have nothing to do with what they were telling Americans about protecting Ukraine's sovereignty.

00:32:08.000 In a way, I see the Ukraine-Russia conflict as a partner to the COVID pandemic. 0.84

00:32:13.000 These massive global stories were unable to be contained and narrativised in the way that globalists would have preferred because of independent media reporting.

00:32:24.000 Because in real time, we were getting counter-narratives that seemed more plausible than what we were being told by our governments and our media.

00:32:37.000 The reason for that is because independent media has been telling us the truth.

00:32:41.000 Whether it was the pipeline or whether it's the vaccines or whether it's the lab leak or whether it was those missiles not coming from Poland or whether it's the CIA labs in Ukraine.

00:32:53.000 Narratives emerge so quickly that they've had to create the category of misinformation and disinformation just to maintain control of their globalist agenda.

00:33:04.000 Now that America has gone all populist and MAGA, countries like the UK and France are dreadfully exposed.

00:33:10.000 But not just nations.

00:33:12.000 The World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, NATO, then agencies within America, the CIA, the FBI, all of them are undertaking a massive reckoning now.

00:33:21.000 So someone like Keir Starmer, flak jacket or no flak jacket, AIDS test, which is what he took recently on no AIDS test, is dreadfully exposed.

00:33:29.000 He has to stand up in front of the world's media and therefore world's population now.

00:33:33.000 We're supporting this war.

00:33:35.000 I'm reluctantly sending troops.

00:33:37.000 I'm reluctantly taking your tax dollars.

00:33:39.000 And they've got to cross their fingers and hope that we don't look at that guy right in the eyes and say, wait a minute, I don't trust him.

00:33:47.000 Maybe we're being lied to.

00:33:48.000 Maybe this Ukraine conflict is about selling state assets and doing globalist deals.

00:33:54.000 Maybe we can't trust leaders like Keir Starmer.

00:33:57.000 Maybe they don't represent the best interests of the British people.

00:34:00.000 Maybe there's a reason that farmers are up in arms on the street, why people feel disgusted, disgraced and broken by the immigration crisis in the UK. 0.98

00:34:09.000 Maybe there's a reason that people feel furious about the incarceration and imprisonment of people for free speech online.

00:34:21.000 The COVID pandemic and the Ukraine-Russia war are the pivotal stories that have changed the perspectives of millions of people when it comes to the true nature of globalism and the true nature of power.

00:34:32.000 And it's helped us to recognise, in fact, that nationalism is likely going to be a first step against globalism.

00:34:41.000 Furthermore, if you look at it a little more deeply, and I don't see why we shouldn't, you start to see that if people don't love God and don't believe in any...

00:34:49.000 I don't believe in any resolute, universal truths, whether you call it common sense or Jesus Christ, then people in positions of power are just arbitrarily coming up with an agenda and then imposing their will by violence.

00:35:03.000 There's no resolute, absolute principles.

00:35:06.000 One day they have their pronouns in their bios.

00:35:08.000 The next day they don't have their pronouns in the bios.

00:35:10.000 One minute they're telling you this is a good and just war.

00:35:15.000 The next minute they're telling you there was a completely corrupt war.

00:35:18.000 The next minute they're telling you to take these vaccines, the next minute they're telling you should never have taken those vaccines.

00:35:22.000 You cannot trust them.

00:35:24.000 You can never trust them.

00:35:25.000 You must never trust them again.

00:35:27.000 But that's just what I think.

00:35:29.000 Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and chat.

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00:36:42.000 Right, okay, if you're watching this anywhere other than Rumble Premium, we're going to leave now.

00:36:48.000 Stay with us because we're about to talk to Nicole Shanahan about vaccines and Google and Serge Brin.

00:36:54.000 That's the dude that set up Google as well as Bobby Kennedy.

00:36:56.000 It's a brilliant conversation as well as Christ.

00:36:58.000 She's come to Christ.

00:36:59.000 Click the link in the description.

00:37:00.000 Hey, if you've not been watching Break Bread, watch Break Bread.

00:37:03.000 And if you're not a member of Rumble Premium where you get Break Bread as well as a load of other additions, The actual question is, from where does power derive?

00:37:16.000 Where does legitimate power derive?

00:37:17.000 And if it doesn't derive from some sort of deity, some sort of god, where does it come from?

00:37:23.000 And the answer is usually it will just come from raw, brutal power.

00:37:26.000 Whoever can seize power will take it.

00:37:28.000 That's what's usually happened in human history.

00:37:30.000 OK, so let me know in the comments and chat what you think about this part of the ways between the United States and the UK and France.

00:37:37.000 Is this something that desperately concerns you?

00:37:39.000 Let me know, too, what you think about the stripping of Ukrainian assets and selling them off to these corporations.

00:37:45.000 OK, time for our guest now.

00:37:47.000 Nicole Ann Shanahan is an American attorney, entrepreneur and philanthropist. 0.98

00:37:52.000 A philanthropist known for her work in legal technology and social advocacy.

00:37:56.000 She's the founder and president of the Bayer Echo Foundation, which focuses on reproductive longevity and equality, criminal justice reform, and environmental sustainability.

00:38:04.000 She supported Bobby Kennedy in his independent campaign for president, and her career spans legal innovation, philanthropy, and political engagement, reflecting her commitment to addressing complex societal changes.

00:38:16.000 She recently became a Christian, of course.

00:38:19.000 In the conversation, what I felt was most interesting is someone that comes from a kind of woke position, i.e.

00:38:26.000 someone that was a Democrat, someone that lived in Silicon Valley, someone that was married to Serge Brin, I think is his name, one of the founders of Google, now sees wokeism as a real threat, totally has a pretty strong position when it comes to vaccines, and is now largely supportive of political movements that you would never imagine someone like that ever supporting.

00:38:45.000 Also, she's come to Jesus Christ, so we obviously talked about that at some length.

00:38:49.000 It's a brilliant conversation.

00:38:50.000 Please enjoy it.

00:38:52.000 This is an interesting environment to find ourselves in.

00:38:55.000 We've encountered each other, of course, once before, Nicole, at a fundraising event in Nashville.

00:39:02.000 That's right.

00:39:03.000 For Bobby.

00:39:05.000 Oh gosh, don't tell me you have the receipts.

00:39:07.000 That was my comedy debut.

00:39:09.000 My first and probably last.

00:39:13.000 Let's just have a look at some of Nicole's greatest, but no, not really.

00:39:18.000 If you imagine that level of production has gone into a show where I turn up in, frankly, my wife's dressing gown.

00:39:25.000 Yeah, no, I swear I have one that looks like that.

00:39:28.000 It's an incredible fabric, and if I ever get into merchandising, this is certainly the direction I'd be going in, sort of comfortable fabrics.

00:39:36.000 Sometimes when I fantasize about Where creativity could take me, you know, with the endless opportunities that are available in merchandise, I think.

00:39:45.000 Clothes made of this fabric, sometimes I think of clothes that I would wear all the time, but I wouldn't want it to look like an urgent and desperate thing, but just precisely like I was dressing for comfort, but not in conventional leisure wear.

00:39:58.000 And like, where people are wondering, is that his wives?

00:40:02.000 I do get asked, like sometimes, I go to a lot of like...

00:40:05.000 But you can't make assumptions.

00:40:07.000 Well, not these days.

00:40:08.000 People are terrified to open their mouths, aren't they?

00:40:11.000 Thankfully, in some cases.

00:40:13.000 But like, yeah, when I go to sort of 12-step type stuff, people are generally complimentary, but interested.

00:40:21.000 You look like everything that you wear and interface with has been very, very well screened for its...

00:40:30.000 I would say nutritional value and its cleanliness.

00:40:34.000 Yes, yeah.

00:40:34.000 It has to be comfortable and as little plastic finishes as possible.

00:40:40.000 That's the Maha way. 0.99

00:40:41.000 Aren't you in a position where you wouldn't need to be involved in anything that causes you the kind of consternation and criticism that comes with political life?

00:40:51.000 You know, I could not have imagined the consternation part of it.

00:40:58.000 Because I'd been involved in politics with the Democratic Party as a donor, as a beloved donor, for quite a while.

00:41:07.000 And then as a philanthropist, I now realize the stuff I was funding was in large part fraudulent.

00:41:18.000 What do you mean by that?

00:41:19.000 Well, you know, you know, I got, okay.

00:41:24.000 Let's back up a little bit.

00:41:24.000 I got on the internet for the first time.

00:41:26.000 I couldn't find my Twitter password when I joined Bobby's campaign.

00:41:30.000 I wasn't really on the internet.

00:41:31.000 And then I get on and I see all of these people saying that wealthy liberal women are ruining the world with their philanthropy.

00:41:38.000 I'd never heard that before.

00:41:41.000 And so here I am on the internet last year around March as I make my political debut.

00:41:49.000 And I'm really following these threads about Mackenzie Bezos and all of these other tech wives. 0.97

00:42:00.000 A lot of them are ex-tech wives and they go on and take on philanthropy as their career. 0.99

00:42:08.000 And I thought we were all doing good things for the world, helping out the needy and helping with balance and equity and helping lift people up.

00:42:21.000 What is a typical cause that exemplifies the ideas that we would see like ex-tech wives philanthropy?

00:42:27.000 What's the kind of an idea that you would have assumed was beneficial but in retrospect?

00:42:32.000 Well, so Laureen Powell Jobs, her main focus was immigration for the last 10 years. 0.98

00:42:39.000 She really wanted to focus on increasing immigration into the United States.

00:42:44.000 I now realize she helped facilitate a lot of this illegal immigration and these poor policies around using American taxpayer dollars to incentivize undocumented to flood into our country. 0.87

00:42:58.000 And then pay politicians to not enforce our border laws. 0.98

00:43:03.000 So I now realize that's what it was.

00:43:05.000 But back then I thought, oh, well, she's just helping earnest, wonderful people find their way to the American dream legally.

00:43:14.000 That's what my understanding was at the time.

00:43:17.000 What I was really passionate about was criminal justice reform.

00:43:23.000 So 10 years ago, I was looking at the data and all these organizations were coming to me and I was at Stanford at the time.

00:43:31.000 And the narrative was that we had over-incarceration, which is true.

00:43:36.000 We have a massive prison population in the United States.

00:43:40.000 And then that the justice system was really unfair and I got pulled in.

00:43:47.000 By someone who worked with Kamala Harris to effectively audit the San Francisco DA's office around whether or not policing was fair.

00:43:58.000 And at the time, I really believed in this work.

00:44:02.000 I really believed that all of these police officers were racist because that was the narrative at the time.

00:44:11.000 And that we had to find a way as philanthropists and technologists to screen out any possibility of bias in our criminal justice system.

00:44:23.000 And so all of these groups started to emerge, these nonprofits, and I funded many of them over a period of a decade, thinking that it was helping these communities.

00:44:36.000 And now that I look back on some of this Funding that I was doing, I realized that there was something else that was happening in parallel.

00:44:46.000 These alternative missions to kind of undermine security in the United States that were happening in parallel with this desire, this very good desire, I think, to have a fair justice system and to help our American communities through hardship.

00:45:06.000 So anyways, long story short.

00:45:09.000 You know, I think that there is a problem with the liberal woman who is not aware of the fact that they're getting drawn into these manufactured culture wars that are designed in many ways to undermine our American communities. 1.00

00:45:29.000 Yeah, those examples that you gave were really excellent, Nicole.

00:45:33.000 And I was trying to think of my previous...

00:45:36.000 Like perspective or position in the culture where I've been, you know, generally speaking, a liberal person or of the left and would have been kind of sympathetic to arguments that refugees or people that have been displaced as a result of commercial or military activity ought be granted.

00:45:57.000 Refuge or sanctuary, that seems like a pretty reasonable idea. 1.00

00:46:01.000 And also, if you're a person who listened to, for example, NWA in the 1980s, the idea that there's institutionalized racism is hardly anathema.

00:46:11.000 Systemic injustice is the word.

00:46:13.000 Right, systemic injustice.

00:46:14.000 It's all systemic.

00:46:15.000 And I sort of kind of believe in the idea of systemic injustice.

00:46:18.000 It's just odd how it plays out.

00:46:20.000 Do you know when I started to question it myself was, I can't believe how...

00:46:27.000 Recent and how lethargic that implies my thinking is that when during the pandemic I came to recognise that the idea that the authoritarianism was protectivism, when I'm prepared to think, these people aren't interested in protecting us, they don't care about us, I don't trust them, but...

00:46:48.000 The notion occurred.

00:46:51.000 Then why would you believe that they're acting on behalf of vulnerable immigrants?

00:46:56.000 What makes you think that these same interests that want to lock people in their homes, near mandate medications that are dubious, suddenly have an about face when it comes to subjects like Immigration or caring for vulnerable, vulnerable minority communities.

00:47:14.000 Why would you believe them there?

00:47:16.000 But I wonder, Nicole, sometimes if the broader issue is that we're all pretty willing to participate in stories that are easy for us.

00:47:27.000 It's nice to believe that you're participating helpfully in some sort of cultural idea or argument.

00:47:32.000 What I'm doing is worthwhile.

00:47:35.000 It's like you feel like you have a purpose.

00:47:37.000 And that it somehow fulfills a story arc in one's life of, well, you know, I ended up with all of these resources and it is my job to make sure that those resources go to help others, which is, I think, a very good and noble way of seeing the world.

00:47:52.000 The problem is, is when there's bad actors.

00:47:57.000 And the problem is, is when those bad actors start manufacturing narratives around, you know, I... I'm going to take as much.

00:48:08.000 I don't want any questions.

00:48:09.000 I'm going to buy whatever I want with it.

00:48:12.000 I'm not going to be responsible to reporting.

00:48:14.000 And all the standards around NGO finances and disclosure do not apply to me because I've been an affected minority.

00:48:21.000 So I think that that's where I've kind of been like, oh, what's going on here?

00:48:28.000 It's really mad to think that there's like a category of like billionaire.

00:48:33.000 Tech divorcees.

00:48:35.000 Until you said it, I didn't know that was a category.

00:48:38.000 It's like all over the internet.

00:48:40.000 Right.

00:48:41.000 You were married to someone that's made a whole bunch of money and now there's a kind of causes.

00:48:47.000 In a way, it's funny to think of powerful people with wealth, like you in this instance, being exploited or lied to or manipulated because you think I equate wealth with power, kind of, because it is a type of power.

00:49:00.000 But it feels like a...

00:49:02.000 It's a type of exploitation of a person that is vulnerable.

00:49:06.000 And I've experienced that.

00:49:07.000 I've been that person a bunch of times.

00:49:08.000 Like, you are really like a kind of living corpse for people to sort of lash onto.

00:49:16.000 She's got them resources. 0.98

00:49:17.000 We'll have that.

00:49:18.000 We can direct her towards this thing.

00:49:20.000 Something happens with celebrities.

00:49:22.000 Like, I need you for my cause.

00:49:25.000 Yeah, you get it all the time.

00:49:26.000 You know who I was talking to this about?

00:49:28.000 Dallas Jenkins.

00:49:30.000 Like, you know, let's say Dallas Jenkins.

00:49:32.000 I was like, you make that show, not that you need my endorsement, but it came up in a conversation.

00:49:38.000 I go, yeah, you're the person that's made a success out of that show.

00:49:41.000 You do your vision.

00:49:43.000 Because I remember how when I have had influence in some political or cultural matter, people are always telling me, you should say this, you should believe that.

00:49:52.000 And I was like, why don't you get on and do your thing and tell people what you believe in and what you care about and what your issue is, rather than trying to get a spike in me and tell me what to think.

00:50:01.000 But it's interesting, isn't it?

00:50:03.000 Because we look at people sometimes from a perspective of utility.

00:50:07.000 Like, even me in the back of my mind is, oh, like, well, Nicole was backing Bobby and that, and now Bobby's in government, and now what are you going to do?

00:50:19.000 That's a great question.

00:50:21.000 I actually am turning my sights on California.

00:50:25.000 You'd like to do your sights.

00:50:28.000 Well, I mean, so my sights were...

00:50:31.000 Because of the terrible things that happened there. 0.92

00:50:33.000 On Washington DC and fixing a lot of the issues in DC and really, I mean, we were a razor thin edge away from totally falling into the crap hole that the UK has fallen into. 0.99

00:50:48.000 It has gone in a crap hole. 0.99

00:50:50.000 Yes. 0.99

00:50:51.000 My whole country.

00:50:52.000 Yes.

00:50:53.000 I know.

00:50:54.000 It's really scary to see what's going on over there and it really is Like, two dual systems and it really is the washing away of cultural Great Britain.

00:51:08.000 Oh man, it's so mad that some of the issues that you were invited to vocally support and which, you know, I'm not criticising you for that because obviously that's what you're expressing.

00:51:17.000 You're like, oh man, I was trying to help.

00:51:20.000 Like immigration and destabilising law enforcement, say, those now I... Kind of associate with globalism.

00:51:30.000 I see those as part of the bewilderment project that is concomitant with globalism.

00:51:36.000 In order to create a centralized global power that's unelected, you've got to bewilder people.

00:51:39.000 Have you ever thought about...

00:51:40.000 I've been thinking about this word globalism.

00:51:43.000 It's used a lot.

00:51:44.000 I'm like, what does it actually mean?

00:51:46.000 It's anti-Westernism.

00:51:48.000 It's destruction of Western civilization, institutions, and culture as we...

00:51:56.000 I grew up knowing them.

00:51:58.000 I mean, that is my experience with, I mean, when we say the word globalism.

00:52:06.000 Globalization, when I was in high school, was a very positive thing.

00:52:11.000 I always viewed it very positively.

00:52:12.000 I was like, oh, this is great.

00:52:14.000 We can have trade and friendly borders and, like, people can go to Russia.

00:52:18.000 Now I had friends go to Russia.

00:52:21.000 Tech businesses.

00:52:22.000 I had friends go to China.

00:52:24.000 I went to China because China was open and it was this land of opportunity in 2005 to 2008. I don't know if you visited China during that time, but it was fabulous.

00:52:40.000 Bookstore I'd go to called the Bookworm, owned by a British woman. 1.00

00:52:44.000 And that's where all the expats were hanging out.

00:52:46.000 It was like really cool and sexy.

00:52:48.000 I was a student and it was just like a fun, exciting place.

00:52:53.000 It was wonderful.

00:52:54.000 The idea that there was a kind of common acceptance that we weren't defined by tribalism, but by unity.

00:53:04.000 Autonomy within that unity, autonomous elected groups and responsive and responsible institutions within those groups.

00:53:14.000 Sounds sort of super exciting, but what globalism kind of became is invisible power inserting itself into every aspect of your life, in your pocket, in your private life, in your computer, in your phone, in your mind, in your home, telling you that it's only doing that to help you.

00:53:30.000 Well, it turned into Klaus Schwab's version of globalism, which is a small group of people...

00:53:40.000 Running the entire cultural and financial agenda of the planet.

00:53:46.000 That was not globalization, right?

00:53:49.000 Globalization was supposed to be, like, cultures.

00:53:52.000 You know, you'd be able to share cultures.

00:53:53.000 You'd invite delegations from China here, and we would share with them our American culture.

00:53:58.000 And, like, American students could go over to China and experience, like, all this ancient wisdom that's been preserved in Asia and China, or what made it through the Communist Revolution.

00:54:09.000 But that was Deng Xiaoping's goal for China when he opened it.

00:54:14.000 And then what happened was, I believe, if you remember, Klaus Schwab at Davos one year had Xi Jinping come and basically give the keynote, stating that China was now the new world power.

00:54:29.000 Leading up to that moment, after Hu Jintao stepped down, I think that there was kind of a coup of all of China, led by Klaus Schwab and his affiliates.

00:54:40.000 And China was going to be the mega power in the world, which is what it's trying to become through BRICS as well, which is intentionally designed to leave the United States out. 0.76

00:54:56.000 And really this flipping of the narrative.

00:54:59.000 Because the Chinese didn't always believe that they were a superior entity.

00:55:03.000 And in fact, many Chinese still look to the West for cultural identity.

00:55:07.000 Because you need a strong West for the Chinese to be who they are as a great nation.

00:55:13.000 If there's a weak West, China just ends up being this grabby, acultural, uneventful, uninteresting place. 0.99

00:55:24.000 We need a strong America to bring balance.

00:55:27.000 It's like the yin and the yang.

00:55:29.000 These two entities need to be in balance.

00:55:32.000 And I think that I'm half Chinese and half Irish German.

00:55:36.000 I feel like so much of my life has been about trying to create that yin and yang in my own life.

00:55:42.000 And I see it happening on this macro, giant, global scale right now.

00:55:49.000 And then you have this Klaus Schwab, who really is like a cancer.

00:55:53.000 He's like a cultural cancer in the world, who is trying to create this mega block, which is what cancer cells do.

00:56:01.000 They create these cells that don't properly respirate and do the natural cellular life process.

00:56:11.000 He's kind of just creating this mast-sized block. 0.97

00:56:17.000 And he wants, and it's like part of that is the destruction of Western civilization.

00:56:23.000 Because you need that for total global domination, which, you know, anyways, we're like totally getting off track here.

00:56:31.000 But to answer your question, I, you know, I went into politics always being an intellectual.

00:56:38.000 And now that I've been a politician, it's very clear to me.

00:56:46.000 Like, where all of these players on the board are in the sense of, well, what part of the timeline is America in right now?

00:56:57.000 And America really is in the timeline of salvation.

00:57:00.000 Like, we need to have a massive salvation in this country, and it will inspire so much globally.

00:57:08.000 The stronger we are here, the more...

00:57:11.000 Wonderful China can be in its own cultural awareness.

00:57:17.000 Does that make sense?

00:57:18.000 Well, yeah, as much as I can make sense of it because you're much better informed on so many of these subjects than I am.

00:57:25.000 Particularly when you're talking about the kind of polarized dynamics between emergent Chinese power and what I would up until recently regarding the atrophying power of a great nation like this one, the United States of America. 0.77

00:57:42.000 I do not understand geopolitics.

00:57:45.000 At all well.

00:57:47.000 Maybe I don't even understand anything that well.

00:57:50.000 But what I'm particularly fascinated by, Nicole, when I hear you talk about having an interest in becoming politically involved in the state of California, presumably because of the social decline there, the poverty, the failure of many of their liberal policies, the general loathing of a figure like Gavin Newsom, like California's own Justin Trudeau,

00:58:17.000 appears to have reached a kind of high pitch and high fever in this immediate aftermath appears to have reached a kind of high pitch and high fever in Emblematic events like that seem to bring to the forefront a kind of sense of disdain.

00:58:35.000 And I imagine after you backed, and I feel like you're a significant part of the success of Bobby Kennedy's campaign when he was running independently, and I reckon that him joining the MAGA movement and ultimately becoming Secretary of and I reckon that him joining the MAGA movement and ultimately becoming like a sort of massive win for Maha, massive win for America.

00:58:59.000 I wonder how you now are going to direct your endeavors and attention and time and you said towards California.

00:59:10.000 And I wonder in what way and how.

00:59:14.000 Okay.

00:59:16.000 So, one of the gifts I've realized I've had over the last year is political advertising.

00:59:25.000 I don't know if you saw some of that.

00:59:26.000 Yeah, you've done good stuff.

00:59:27.000 It was like the TDS ad, which I was creative on that one.

00:59:31.000 That was my...

00:59:32.000 So what do you mean?

00:59:32.000 Concept?

00:59:33.000 You're like, I think it should be this.

00:59:34.000 Well, yeah, because we were, I was like, you know, I called up our editor and I was like, hey, I have this idea for this, like, pharma commercial, but it's for TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome, and then I, like, outlined it all.

00:59:45.000 And it turned out just beautifully.

00:59:46.000 And then, you know, trying to tell the MAGA story.

00:59:49.000 Like, who the hell are these MAGA peoples to individuals who think MAGAs are deplorable?

00:59:57.000 So then sat down and was like, what's the best way we can talk about the MAGA stories?

01:00:01.000 And it was about a British explorer coming to the United States and having first contact with the MAGA peoples. 0.62

01:00:08.000 So this is my story that I'm going to tell about California.

01:00:13.000 So you've heard of this woke mind virus.

01:00:17.000 Do you know where it came from?

01:00:19.000 the La Brea tar pits.

01:00:21.000 Anyway, so that's, that's this, I really believe that in a world of manufactured narratives, this construction of woke, which has overtaken Hollywood and has overtaken Los Angeles which has overtaken Hollywood and has overtaken Los Angeles and California and all major cities across the United States.

01:00:43.000 it was created in Hollywood.

01:00:48.000 It was created in Hollywood with the influence of Many different individuals, many of which are associated with the Democratic Party.

01:00:59.000 Others potentially are influenced by WEF-style individuals, the World Economic Forum groups.

01:01:09.000 And wokeism, or the woke mindset, was produced and delivered from Los Angeles.

01:01:18.000 And now look at what's gone on in Los Angeles.

01:01:21.000 It's literally more tar than you could ever imagine after the fire.

01:01:26.000 So it's this, you know, this idea like we will only succeed in preserving Western civilization if our narratives are a parody of the manufactured narrative.

01:01:39.000 We have to parody over these other Storylines that are so destructive to Western civilization.

01:01:49.000 And I think you understand this.

01:01:51.000 Humor has an incredibly important role to play in this.

01:01:54.000 But also the creativity of the mind weaving together the culture that has made America.

01:02:01.000 This idea that a British explorer from the UK, which is undergoing such seismic cultural shift right now, comes to America to discover this group of deplorables.

01:02:13.000 Turns out to be the most fabulous group of people, most brave group of people on the planet right now fighting for liberty.

01:02:22.000 You're going to do it like it's a National Geographic tribal missionary expedition with like almost someone in a pith helmet arriving on the shores of Los Angeles, well not Los Angeles if they're discovering MAGA, maybe Florida or Texas.

01:02:38.000 Does Texas have a shore?

01:02:40.000 It certainly has borders.

01:02:41.000 And that's how they'll...

01:02:43.000 Discover MAGA Tribes.

01:02:45.000 You know, I was thinking that, just based on what I've heard, I've talked about this a bit, I suppose.

01:02:54.000 Out of academia, through post-structuralism and forms of relativism, things that we have long assumed to be true, ideas like man and woman, that do have a spectrum within them and do have exceptions, no question, were now up for negotiation and up to be challenged.

01:03:15.000 And from this sort of deconstructionist perspective, an idea like the family or the nation.

01:03:21.000 Could be scrutinised and pulled apart.

01:03:24.000 While some of it was unfolding, like, for example, statues being pulled down and things like that, and I could understand the fury and the rage, and plainly you could if you've supported initiatives to investigate the veracity and integrity of San Francisco Police Force was one cause you said you were involved in a long time ago before your personal political awakening.

01:03:47.000 I can...

01:03:51.000 I really can see how there's some legitimacy to scrutinising ideas.

01:03:57.000 Like, well, what is a country, really?

01:03:59.000 It's a sort of an agreement.

01:04:00.000 But actually, when you look at American, in particular, American history, because so much of it is so recent, and it's so obviously, therefore, kind of well documented, we can really sort of get a sense of what that struggle was, firstly.

01:04:13.000 Anti-unfear taxation, anti-imperial struggle.

01:04:17.000 It's got its own layer after layer of complexity and brutality that most people are aware of and familiar with.

01:04:24.000 But it's a very inspiring story, the establishment of America.

01:04:29.000 There's some of the stories of individual and collective heroism that emerge out of that.

01:04:34.000 And when you start to pick it apart and go, well, these guys own slaves and in particular the impact of slavery.

01:04:42.000 If there isn't...

01:04:44.000 What I've found to be right interesting, Nicole, about the woke movement is it...

01:04:51.000 Kind of, I was at least culturally observing political correctness from the 1980s onwards, where it seems in some ways that there was a need to look at how, like say in my country, black people or Pakistani people or women were spoken about in comedy.

01:05:08.000 If you watch something from a little while ago, oh man, we've talked about this with American friends recently, in my country, the newspapers like The Sun and The Mirror, which were the best-selling newspaper, on page three, like you turn over the first page, It was a naked woman, every day. 0.99

01:05:22.000 And it was like, never, like, you know, maybe they'd be wearing, like, under...

01:05:27.000 Underwear on the bottom half.

01:05:29.000 But they were naked and some of these girls were like 16 years old and there were some cases where someone would be like 15 and they'd be lobbying, oh, when's she going to be allowed? 0.92

01:05:36.000 Now I was thinking about this.

01:05:37.000 It wasn't like the populace were lobbying to objectify young women.

01:05:41.000 The media were objectifying young women because that was the trend then and that was the fashion and that was the favour and that was the tendency and people will respond to strong cues like naked bodies. 0.93

01:05:52.000 These are pretty potent signals for people.

01:05:56.000 At that point, political correctness was like, you can't objectify women like that. 1.00

01:06:00.000 I don't think it's good for women, I don't think it's good for men, I don't think it's good for any of us. 0.54

01:06:03.000 Maybe we should be looking at the kind of language we're using around Pakistani people and black people.

01:06:08.000 I remember learning that.

01:06:11.000 I was going through adolescence, I guess, while that was happening.

01:06:14.000 So I was coming into adulthood and thinking, that seems like a pretty sensible set of adjustments to make, even as a white person in a country that's not particularly difficult.

01:06:25.000 Or at least not in the same way that America is, by racial dynamics.

01:06:30.000 But what it's become, if you ask me, is hollowed out of all actual virtue and no real willingness to sacrifice or service or cost or consequence.

01:06:43.000 And I suppose, to your point, that it centres around Hollywood, even though I would...

01:06:49.000 I don't argue that it might have had roots elsewhere and certainly academia has played a part of undergirding it intellectually.

01:06:57.000 It found its fulfillment for sure in the entertainment industry.

01:07:01.000 And I suppose that might be in part, Nicole, because the entertainment industry don't have to back up.

01:07:05.000 People can say a bunch of stuff and then don't have to back it up with action or cost or compromise or consequence.

01:07:10.000 And it sounds like you might have gone through a real journey with that.

01:07:13.000 See, when you're saying that about Klaus Schwab or the state of California, I reckon that you'd be the very type of person, attractive, biracial, wealthy, outspoken, mission-oriented, that they would be like, we've got to recruit this woman because she's going to fund us and advance our course.

01:07:34.000 So for them to have lost...

01:07:35.000 You, I feel like they're in serious trouble if they can't hang on to people that you would imagine would be at the apex of their constituency.

01:07:45.000 Yeah, yeah, and brought a bunch of people with me.

01:07:47.000 I mean, we brought all the Crunchy Moms, right? 0.98

01:07:50.000 So the Crunchy Moms being the liberal. 1.00

01:07:55.000 They all came.

01:07:56.000 Yeah, the liberal women who, you know, look at ingredients on their makeup and are like, maybe I don't want to, you know, get all of the stuff that has toxic chemicals and smeared it all over my face. 1.00

01:08:11.000 I mean, all of those women, a lot of them left the Democratic Party. 1.00

01:08:17.000 That's a big constituency for them.

01:08:19.000 That's massive.

01:08:20.000 Yeah, big constituency.

01:08:21.000 Yeah, so give that up.

01:08:25.000 And it's really interesting because, you know, in the heart of Silicon Valley, the moms at my daughter's preschool are coming up to me and they're like, we're voting for you, but, you know, shh.

01:08:37.000 It was pretty amazing because these were, you know, women that, some of them work at Stanford, they're academics, they're lifetime, lifetime Democrats.

01:08:50.000 To be able to come over and say, can I get a Kennedy hat?

01:08:54.000 Do you think that party's finished, the Democrat Party, that it's kind of eviscerated and directionless?

01:09:01.000 I was watching something on our show recently, like Kamala Harris talking to a Broadway...

01:09:05.000 Well, they draw the line at Trump, though, a lot of them.

01:09:08.000 Right.

01:09:08.000 So a lot were willing to vote for Kennedy, for HHS, and kind of, you know, circle next to Trump and Vance.

01:09:19.000 So they're not necessarily like huge Trump fans.

01:09:21.000 And a lot of them are kind of like, you know, reading the news and like, it's like white knuckling right now.

01:09:26.000 They're like, this is really crazy.

01:09:29.000 I know.

01:09:30.000 And so I feel like I really serve as like a source of calm.

01:09:36.000 And I do try to break down what some of these more dramatic actions Trump has taken, what they actually mean, how to put it, how to think about it in context.

01:09:48.000 For example, this outroar over Elon Musk.

01:09:52.000 I try to remind everyone that before Elon Musk, there was this woman named Megan Smith.

01:09:59.000 Megan Smith helped launch Google X. It was their moonshot factory.

01:10:11.000 She went on to run the United States Digital Service on behalf of the For the president, President Obama.

01:10:19.000 And she started something, helped start something called 18F at the White House.

01:10:24.000 So these were doge. 0.99

01:10:26.000 Cut back, cut back on bureaucracy type endeavors.

01:10:31.000 Yeah, they were tech teams that went in and mined all the data.

01:10:36.000 They just didn't mine it for efficiency purposes.

01:10:39.000 They mined it for activist purposes.

01:10:42.000 Really?

01:10:43.000 So that's not even unique.

01:10:45.000 It's extraordinary, isn't it, when you see something framed, particularly prior to the electoral success.

01:10:52.000 So many, Cage is being an obvious example, so many stories were not unique to Trump.

01:11:01.000 And sometimes I felt that both sides would...

01:11:03.000 Probably feel squeamish about the sort of similarities.

01:11:10.000 Like the example you've just given, even something like Doge, where people are sort of clutching their pearls and their cheeks simultaneously has a precedent in the Obama administration.

01:11:21.000 No one would sort of care about that because they liked the packaging.

01:11:25.000 But I suppose maybe...

01:11:27.000 They had a whole police data initiative where they had unelected People come in on contracts and just mine through whatever police data and records unredacted that they wanted.

01:11:41.000 To what end?

01:11:43.000 Well, a lot of it was to identify problem police officers.

01:11:49.000 Right, so as long as they can find a legitimate excuse for deeper surveillance and more control, then that's...

01:11:56.000 It was all for surveillance purposes.

01:11:58.000 What do you think California needs?

01:12:03.000 California needs a significant audit.

01:12:09.000 Gavin Newsom put our state into historic amounts of debt.

01:12:15.000 Runaway debt right now.

01:12:17.000 Half a trillion dollars of runaway debt.

01:12:19.000 In the state of California alone, half a trillion dollars.

01:12:24.000 Insane.

01:12:25.000 And we are, you know, really struggling as a state right now with water management.

01:12:31.000 Our farmland is going dry.

01:12:34.000 There was a bill a few years ago to put in new water infrastructure and water storage.

01:12:40.000 They've built virtually nothing.

01:12:43.000 Fire mitigation and, you know, the geoengineering.

01:12:47.000 A lot of the geoengineering stuff that foundations and Academia is involved in some of these projects.

01:12:56.000 There are startups involved in the government funds.

01:12:59.000 A lot of geoengineering right now in the United States.

01:13:02.000 And a lot of it's happening along the California coastline.

01:13:07.000 When you see how Bobby Kennedy is treated in media, let's say the kind of media that comes out of Hollywood and California, you know, say you seem sort of kind of ridiculed by Colbert and like the...

01:13:20.000 Campaigns of vilification that accompanied his confirmation.

01:13:24.000 Drink him all.

01:13:25.000 Right.

01:13:25.000 It's just standard and accepted.

01:13:27.000 And then the way that in general, President Trump is discussed in the same circles.

01:13:34.000 Do you feel that if California, not the whole state, but obviously like Los Angeles in particular.

01:13:40.000 Is defined by what happens there in terms of entertainment industry and media, is it fair to say?

01:13:46.000 Do you feel that that, in addition to these obvious economic and infrastructural failings that you just listed, is something that should be addressed?

01:13:53.000 Because it does seem odd to me that there is no centralised or blue-chip media that is sort of open or positive to what's happening in the world or in your country politically.

01:14:06.000 Because one of the things that's been sort of very difficult for me...

01:14:09.000 To help me have an understanding of what's going on politically.

01:14:14.000 It was so significant when Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard joined the Trump campaign.

01:14:19.000 And there was no one on CNN or CBS or NBC or NMSNBC that would go, this is actually pretty amazing because there's a political figure who's sort of more, you don't want to say left or liberal, because those words are all starting to be kind of tainted, but someone that's more anti-corporate and more anti-institutional and more willing to take on Big Pharma and more sort of environmentally tuned in in a way that matters, respectful and reverential.

01:14:43.000 The law of nature, right in the heart of the MAGA movement, this story's got to be told.

01:14:47.000 No one's going to tell that story, Nicole.

01:14:50.000 No one in media...

01:14:51.000 Excuse me.

01:14:52.000 So when talking about California and what's going on right there, and you said it's like...

01:14:59.000 Jokingly, the Brea Tar Pits is the sort of incubation point for woke mind virus.

01:15:06.000 So don't you reckon then that in part when assessing California's role in American culture, the West and wokeism, and sort of a reappraisal and change around the way media's behaving, we've seen Bezos go over, we've seen Zuckerberg go over.

01:15:21.000 The money and the tech has magnetised predictably, I suppose, to Trump and to power.

01:15:26.000 But media's still behaving in the kind of...

01:15:31.000 I did see yesterday, did you ever follow Ezra Klein?

01:15:37.000 No.

01:15:38.000 He's a very elite, well-spoken columnist and he just did a big video.

01:15:49.000 For the New York Times yesterday, I believe it was their Sunday edition.

01:15:54.000 That's right.

01:15:55.000 And he starts to call out the failures of the Democratic Party.

01:15:59.000 And he starts to call out the corruption and the inefficiency and the inability to get anything done.

01:16:05.000 He even calls out the billions of dollars spent on electric car chargers that produce no electric car chargers.

01:16:14.000 And he's like, where does that money go?

01:16:16.000 And it's true, you know.

01:16:18.000 The folks on the right, they're totally right to call this stuff out.

01:16:22.000 But then he does this really strange cognitive jujitsu where he then comes back and says that, you know, but really it's the right.

01:16:33.000 it's the right wing that um doesn't really have their own thought or their own voice and they're just these cogs that you know you plug the chip into and then they go along with the right wing eat it because he was trying to flip the meme around um that the right has always accused the left of which is that there are these you know those gray those gray cartoon figures do you see those ones the great cartoon figures the mpcs yes i you know

01:17:01.000 i didn't really those those I'm still catching up on all of this.

01:17:05.000 But they're like non-player characters.

01:17:07.000 Non-player characters, yes.

01:17:08.000 That when you're playing a computer game, which we try not to do anymore because otherwise I'd lose myself, that there are some characters that don't have a narrative or a life, that they're just being moved around in a herd, that they have no agency.

01:17:20.000 Yes, yes.

01:17:21.000 He used exactly that analogy.

01:17:24.000 And so...

01:17:27.000 And he was trying to spin around through this really intense intellectual jujitsu and he was like, actually, it's not the left that are the NPCs.

01:17:35.000 It's the right that are the NPCs.

01:17:37.000 But he can't actually finish the argument.

01:17:40.000 He's trying.

01:17:41.000 Really hard, but he can't quite pull it off.

01:17:44.000 And I think that that, you know, really goes to the point that the left right now is so lost.

01:17:51.000 They readily admit that they're lost and they readily admit that they're struggling to find their identity and they're struggling to find their moral high ground.

01:17:59.000 And my recommendation is to those individuals is I've been there and you have to actually leave the party and admit that you have to admit that the left has been hijacked.

01:18:11.000 It's like a plane that got hijacked and you are a passenger on that plane and you must get off and pull your parachute immediately because the individuals that have hijacked that plane, they do not care about you.

01:18:23.000 They do not care about this country and they do not really care about civility and it's time for you to get off.

01:18:30.000 Yes, I guess that's something we're all going to be participating in for a while.

01:18:36.000 It's encouraging people, hey, listen, because I still don't like to think of myself, gosh, I'm spending a lot of time in Florida, and I love being, do you know what I mostly like?

01:18:50.000 Rednecks. 0.99

01:18:50.000 I love them people. 0.99

01:18:52.000 In a truck.

01:18:53.000 I want a red truck so bad.

01:18:55.000 I want a red old Ford.

01:18:57.000 That's the way to live.

01:18:59.000 Yes.

01:19:00.000 So my point here is that people have been condemned mostly on the basis of sort of kind of class prejudice and a condemnation of the values that are actually integral to America.

01:19:08.000 Like Christianity, a connection to the land, patriotism, decency, family life.

01:19:14.000 There's no reason why those things mean that people that live differently ought to be maligned or condemned.

01:19:20.000 But the fact is that the majority of people live in that way and to claim that it's because of a massive social project that has no veracity in its undergirding.

01:19:31.000 It's a little bogus, things like Christianity and a nuclear family.

01:19:34.000 But this is where, when I say about post-structuralism coming out of academia before he hits the culture, there's another family in real...

01:19:41.000 And how white Christian nationalism is a bad thing.

01:19:43.000 Yeah.

01:19:44.000 I mean, anything that needs a prefix of a colour, you know, like a...

01:19:49.000 I mean, I suppose there's sort of some inquiry that can be made.

01:19:52.000 But, because I do like, what do I like?

01:19:55.000 Variety.

01:19:55.000 I like variety.

01:19:57.000 Variety of people and exciting new cultures.

01:19:59.000 But you, like, as a point that's sort of pretty frequently made, that if you move into a country or a culture because you love it, there are certain aspects of that culture and country that you presumably revere and respect and ought to behave in accordance with that reverence when you arrive or participate in that culture.

01:20:16.000 It doesn't seem like an unreasonable argument.

01:20:18.000 A couple of things.

01:20:20.000 You've been married to a super powerful person. 0.98

01:20:24.000 Oh, I've met your ex-wife.

01:20:26.000 I was married to Katie Perry when I was younger.

01:20:30.000 Sometimes when people want to ask me about Katie Perry, I feel like, don't ask me about Katie Perry because that's an intimate thing from the past that I'm respectful of.

01:20:39.000 But I do want to ask you this, but we could cut it if you didn't like it.

01:20:45.000 When people talk about the power of...

01:20:50.000 I hear stuff like this.

01:20:51.000 Facebook and Google were set up with CIA money.

01:20:54.000 They're CIA carve-outs.

01:20:55.000 I hear things like Larry Page and Serge Brin's PhDs were funded by CIA carve-outs.

01:21:02.000 NSF grants and stuff like that.

01:21:04.000 That kind of thing for me is super interesting because it undermines the idea that these people were geniuses.

01:21:09.000 I guess they've got to be pretty smart to do the stuff they've done.

01:21:13.000 I wonder what you think about that.

01:21:16.000 I can keep it broad if you want.

01:21:17.000 Like the idea that Mark Zuckerberg isn't some genius who came up with Facebook in his garage.

01:21:22.000 Larry Page and Serge Brin having access to whatever technology is used for Google Maps is an indication that there must be some sort of back-channel relationships.

01:21:29.000 That's how it was explained to be by Mike Benz.

01:21:32.000 What do you think about that?

01:21:35.000 I have a lot of thoughts about it.

01:21:37.000 I don't know that I can put them all out there.

01:21:41.000 You know, the remaining 15 minutes, I think it's a much larger conversation.

01:21:45.000 But, you know, the fact that Stanford receives an enormous amount of money from the government for research grants is pretty well established.

01:21:55.000 It's been like that for a while now, several decades.

01:22:02.000 Stanford has always had, if you look at Stanford's board and Google's board, there's a lot of overlap.

01:22:12.000 Yeah, and then if you look at those board members and various, you know, political relationship, there's a lot of overlap.

01:22:19.000 And this is just how the United States has been for a while.

01:22:27.000 Our academic institutions, which You know, have some of the best researchers on the planet, attract some of the greatest minds and PhDs.

01:22:35.000 I was a Stanford fellow as well.

01:22:37.000 No way!

01:22:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:22:39.000 I didn't know that.

01:22:39.000 Yeah, I had...

01:22:40.000 In what?

01:22:41.000 In computer science and law.

01:22:44.000 Oh, so you know all that stuff.

01:22:45.000 And AI, yeah.

01:22:46.000 Oh, wow.

01:22:46.000 Oh, my God.

01:22:47.000 So I was an AI, young AI entrepreneur, young tech lawyer, developing a very early, very, at the time, very groundbreaking neural network, trained using, you know, deep learning methods.

01:23:03.000 And it was really brilliant, actually, and built it and sold the company and was with Sorge at the time.

01:23:12.000 I mean, my life was...

01:23:14.000 As fantastic as I could have ever dreamed as a kid.

01:23:17.000 I mean, this was hitting all of my life goals.

01:23:21.000 Were you like 19 or 20 or something like that?

01:23:22.000 You were young and you were at school.

01:23:24.000 Well, at this point, I was already an attorney and I was asked to go back into becoming an academic fellow, which is like, you know, to be a fellow at Stanford University.

01:23:34.000 Highly prestigious.

01:23:35.000 It's a big deal.

01:23:37.000 And you don't have...

01:23:39.000 All of the obligations of a professor.

01:23:41.000 But you get to, like, you have that procedure to research.

01:23:45.000 So, you know, I was on top of the world then.

01:23:48.000 And I really thought that everything the university was doing, everything Google was doing, everything I was doing separately, was really for the benefit of humanity and for global peace and for global innovation.

01:24:02.000 Like many people, the pandemic and my own experience raising a young child changed everything.

01:24:11.000 Within the years 2020 and 2022, my entire reality was eviscerated.

01:24:20.000 What I thought was reality was completely eviscerated.

01:24:26.000 And I was seeing things that didn't make sense.

01:24:31.000 I was experiencing things that didn't make sense.

01:24:34.000 I was questioning my sanity constantly.

01:24:38.000 And the powers that be in Silicon Valley and just the United States at that time really made me question.

01:24:51.000 You know, my logic, my ability to form logical conclusions, because what was happening was illogical at that time.

01:24:59.000 It wasn't the data and the narratives and the incredible speed at which everything was deployed globally.

01:25:09.000 The misunderstanding about, you know...

01:25:15.000 Like the food supply chain and like toilet paper and all of it.

01:25:19.000 I mean, it was maddening, right?

01:25:20.000 And I was seeing the data and I'm a data scientist and it wasn't lining up with these dramatic, draconian...

01:25:29.000 These policies, these lockdown policies, but yet everyone around me was telling me like, this is what must be done and the fear and like, you know, the fear that I put on others because of the fear that I was told to have.

01:25:43.000 None of it made any sense.

01:25:45.000 And when you behave in that way, and I went along with it, right?

01:25:50.000 I was one of the first in line for the Moderna vaccine. 0.89

01:25:54.000 By that time, I was totally nuts.

01:25:57.000 I had totally lost my sense of self-trust.

01:26:01.000 I couldn't trust myself because internally I was saying this is all wrong, but externally I was having to do all of the things as we all had to.

01:26:09.000 But I was incubated.

01:26:11.000 I was in this like, you know, billionaire's complex, completely cut off in many ways from other people.

01:26:20.000 So it was, yeah, I mean...

01:26:26.000 It was horrifying having to reconcile a reality that you know to be untrue with your intuition.

01:26:34.000 Gaslight, I suppose, is the phrase people use.

01:26:38.000 These days that you're being invited, stroke bullied into believing into a reality that causes you to doubt yourself. 1.00

01:26:46.000 And I didn't have any of the cool punk kids who were like, this shit's stupid. 1.00

01:26:50.000 I'm going to Panama. 1.00

01:26:51.000 You know, like I wanted to go hang out with those people that like took the pandemic and, you know, started camping everywhere.

01:26:58.000 And I was like, I would be like them.

01:27:01.000 But what culturally you were in a group that had to sort of take it all seriously and wear a mask and wave a flag and get into it.

01:27:06.000 Do you have pictures of me in a swimming pool wearing a mask?

01:27:09.000 Oh no, man.

01:27:10.000 What did they do?

01:27:11.000 That doesn't actually make sense, does it?

01:27:15.000 It was a project of bewilderment, wasn't it?

01:27:18.000 And it really kind of succeeded and worked.

01:27:21.000 It detonated people's ability to remain connected.

01:27:26.000 If you escalate the general levels of fear...

01:27:30.000 You legitimise authority, and I think it's been powers probably always use those kind of dynamics.

01:27:36.000 Maybe the real distinction is that we could observe in real time, hold on, this doesn't make sense, and then we could communicate that.

01:27:43.000 They couldn't alienate and isolate people sufficiently, that people couldn't have personal epiphanies at whatever stage.

01:27:51.000 There are some people that have, generally speaking, felt...

01:27:54.000 At ease and comfortable with their relationships with power structures and those people probably remained in alignment.

01:27:59.000 Like you said a minute ago, there will be people now to this day that you'll struggle to get them to come on over.

01:28:06.000 All these people you've hated because you think they're chest-painting, tub-thumping, MAGA-supporting racists, they're probably not that.

01:28:15.000 In fact, to the part of Florida where I spend a lot of time, you really get that sense of earthed people that are kind of not quite...

01:28:23.000 in some intellectual cultural fantasy but very simple plain and practical values about freedom.

01:28:29.000 Oh I know I mean Miami was the first place I came after I got my first shot because I had been watching from afar these people of Florida living freely for the last year.

01:28:43.000 Florida was only really locked down for three months.

01:28:46.000 In Silicon Valley, we were locked down for well over a year.

01:28:51.000 The people that had the most data, the people that had the most information, the people that had in many ways the most...

01:28:56.000 Power when it comes to communication and the ability to evaluate and assess truth were the people that clung on to what we have to sort of acknowledge now as a lie, even though there's not been a sufficient inquiry or reckoning, and there may yet be with Bobby being in the position that he's in.

01:29:09.000 But those are the people that held on most tenaciously.

01:29:13.000 It sounds like it really sort of obviously affected everyone, that's the nature of a pandemic, but it sort of personally and politically impacted you.

01:29:20.000 Well, I think for individuals that...

01:29:23.000 We're really deep in it, and my whole life I've listened to my inner voice.

01:29:29.000 My logic and reason guided me out of, you know, many challenging childhood experiences and, like, got me to where I got.

01:29:40.000 Like, I wasn't, you know, I didn't get shooed into a prestigious college.

01:29:44.000 I went to University of Puget Sound, this tiny little school that gave me a merit scholarship.

01:29:49.000 And then I worked my butt off to get to that point of prestige.

01:29:54.000 Yes, well done.

01:29:56.000 Like so hard.

01:29:56.000 And that's all because I listened to my inner voice and my logic and my intuition.

01:30:02.000 So for the first time in my life, I'm told that like all of that is wrong.

01:30:07.000 And that to be even entertaining any of that is sinister.

01:30:13.000 Right?

01:30:14.000 So like the internal conflict.

01:30:17.000 That I experienced.

01:30:18.000 And I didn't know who RFK was.

01:30:20.000 I had never heard of his stuff.

01:30:22.000 I wasn't on that part of the internet.

01:30:24.000 No, I wasn't on that part of the internet.

01:30:26.000 And then my daughter gets diagnosed with autism two months into the lockdown.

01:30:32.000 And so...

01:30:33.000 How old is your daughter?

01:30:34.000 She's now six.

01:30:35.000 She's now six.

01:30:36.000 How is she?

01:30:37.000 She's the most wonderful person in the whole world.

01:30:40.000 She's just the best.

01:30:42.000 You know, she's been handed a really hard...

01:30:49.000 Why do you mention her autism and her autism diagnosis now?

01:30:54.000 Why do I mention it now in this context?

01:30:56.000 Because, you know, I think that a lot of my journey up until this point has been understanding the mechanisms by which psychology can be weaponized against really smart people.

01:31:16.000 And my psychology around my daughter's diagnosis and my psychology during the pandemic were ones that were so intense.

01:31:29.000 Because again, like, my daughter was totally healthy and then it's like, after her MMR, she suddenly started having all these problems.

01:31:39.000 But like, I couldn't...

01:31:41.000 I couldn't even say that suddenly after that.

01:31:43.000 I couldn't even mention the vaccine.

01:31:46.000 Even when I joined Bobby's campaign, it was almost impossible for me to talk about this story until then I had to qualify my experience against, it probably was about 4,000 stories in of similar ones of people coming up to me during the campaign.

01:32:04.000 Looking through tears in their eyes and sharing their stories with me, that I started to trust that part of my instinct.

01:32:10.000 That was like, it was, it was definitely the, right?

01:32:15.000 And even today, I'm like, well, we still need to investigate it because I'm not like 100% certain.

01:32:20.000 But like, there's so much now.

01:32:22.000 There's so much evidence that like, for me to continue to silence that intuition, that same intuition that brought me to Stanford.

01:32:32.000 It would be such an injustice.

01:32:35.000 And that is where we are today in society.

01:32:38.000 We have to understand how very sophisticated practices of psychological manipulation have been used.

01:32:47.000 And that inner voice that you have.

01:32:52.000 Man, I thought I was a logical person.

01:32:55.000 Like, I thought that all.

01:32:56.000 Like, I thought I was...

01:32:57.000 It was, like, all working and the machine...

01:33:00.000 Like, this life that I built, this, like, mechanism of interfacing with the world was working and then it all broke down.

01:33:07.000 And why did it break down?

01:33:08.000 It broke down because I stopped trusting that voice that always served me.

01:33:14.000 That's, like, the darkest thing, isn't it?

01:33:16.000 And when I think of how, like, that particular political movement...

01:33:22.000 Claims to be, among other things, the protector of the vulnerable, whether that's women and girls or ethnic minorities or refugees or whatever.

01:33:36.000 that actually you see that part of what that movement does, by which I mean a movement that equates care with power and Control.

01:33:48.000 Yeah, they sort of blur that line between care into control But what they're actually what that is on a personal or subjective Excuse me level is making people doubt themselves and making people overwhelm or ignore their motherly instinct Like that's not that's like evil Yeah, no the New York Times had an opinion article last year that said that motherly instinct is a myth created by men Oh

01:34:17.000 How are you selling that as misogyny?

01:34:20.000 Reverence for the divine feminine is sexist.

01:34:25.000 They'll say anything.

01:34:27.000 They'll say anything.

01:34:28.000 They changed all the rules.

01:34:29.000 They switched everything up.

01:34:30.000 They refrained stuff.

01:34:31.000 Everything's up for negotiation.

01:34:34.000 It's the work of the devil, it must be.

01:34:36.000 I mean, I'm recently a Christian like you.

01:34:40.000 How come?

01:34:43.000 I mean, I've always loved God since I was a little girl.

01:34:47.000 And I converted to Judaism about 11 years ago.

01:34:50.000 Because I was always in love with Jewish men for whatever reason since a little girl.

01:34:56.000 But I'm hearing a lot of that today.

01:34:58.000 Really?

01:34:58.000 Yeah.

01:35:00.000 And so I never had, like, I've always admired Jesus.

01:35:06.000 I've always admired Christians.

01:35:08.000 I never understood it in my life until I started to really see evil in the world.

01:35:15.000 And see, like...

01:35:19.000 What do you mean?

01:35:22.000 I mean, this...

01:35:23.000 I've never, like, anthropomorphized evil, like, turned it into, like, a physical form or, like...

01:35:31.000 I know what anthropomorphized means.

01:35:33.000 Okay.

01:35:35.000 I didn't want to assume.

01:35:38.000 Assume.

01:35:39.000 Assume.

01:35:39.000 Unless it's, like, some tech word.

01:35:41.000 You assume.

01:35:43.000 So, you know...

01:35:44.000 I never did until I started to see things that, like, were unexplicable.

01:35:51.000 You know, and, like, I didn't want to believe that they were true.

01:35:54.000 Like, I didn't want to believe that there were, like, all of these missing children in America.

01:35:59.000 And I didn't want to believe that, like, there was a couple that would solely adopt children to abuse them.

01:36:06.000 Oh, that's not an easy belief.

01:36:08.000 I don't want to believe that still.

01:36:10.000 It is unbelievable.

01:36:12.000 I'm still trying to not believe it.

01:36:13.000 It's just like that, you know, I can't.

01:36:19.000 And then the deception.

01:36:20.000 The deception of turning...

01:36:22.000 Things that are natural and beautiful and making them ugly.

01:36:27.000 Yeah.

01:36:28.000 Right?

01:36:28.000 Like taking nature.

01:36:29.000 That's diabolical.

01:36:31.000 Yeah.

01:36:31.000 And then changing the narrative and turning it and like then saying, no, no, no.

01:36:36.000 Things that are nature and natural and just the wisdom of the ancient ways is like, you know, sexist or racist or blah, blah, whatever.

01:36:46.000 Well, like that New York Times thing.

01:36:48.000 But that's not as bad as the sex trafficking and the adopting to abuse.

01:36:51.000 I mean, they were pretty dark, dark examples.

01:36:53.000 But then what, you think there's an attack on nature, an attack on divinity and the sublime, and this has pushed you towards our Lord and Savior Jesus?

01:36:59.000 Yeah, and then I started seeing, like, the decay of, like, saying that, like, children should never be sexualized.

01:37:05.000 Like, that was, it was like, let's change definitions and then let's sexualize children because we're using different definitions now.

01:37:14.000 Like, that was where...

01:37:15.000 Did you see that?

01:37:15.000 What, you saw people sexualizing?

01:37:17.000 What do you mean?

01:37:18.000 Like all that Bugatti stuff, that kind of thing.

01:37:21.000 I mean, all of the drag shows where they get kids dressing up.

01:37:25.000 Yeah, that wasn't good, man.

01:37:27.000 And like, you know, my liberal brain was like, wow, that little kid is like...

01:37:32.000 Participating in, you know, pride.

01:37:34.000 Yeah, that's not good, is it? 0.87

01:37:35.000 Because it's about sex.

01:37:37.000 Yeah, but this is all...

01:37:37.000 That isn't good.

01:37:39.000 This is really nasty.

01:37:40.000 And then to be like, oh, but you can't have that because now you're anti-trans.

01:37:46.000 And I'm like, but I'm not...

01:37:46.000 You know, I'm like, but I'm accepting.

01:37:48.000 I'm an accepting person.

01:37:50.000 Who's got time to be anti-anything so niche?

01:37:52.000 I mean, that is very niche.

01:37:54.000 Do what you want.

01:37:54.000 Who cares?

01:37:55.000 But yeah, can you leave the kids out of it?

01:37:57.000 Yeah, because when you actually think about it rationally for a moment...

01:38:00.000 Whether you were dressing a child up to participate in a role play or dynamic that was heterosexual or homosexual or pansexual or whatever, that ain't right. 0.91

01:38:12.000 Because that's a kid.

01:38:13.000 And almost the dictionary definition of a kid is prepubescent, not procreational, not below the...

01:38:23.000 Bar for consent, below the bar for sexuality.

01:38:27.000 Just try and negotiate around that.

01:38:29.000 And I have seen some sort of highfalutin op-eds.

01:38:32.000 Plainly, paedophilia is a thing.

01:38:34.000 Plainly, there's some sort of enormous market for it.

01:38:37.000 Plainly, there's all this trafficking going on.

01:38:39.000 Plainly, there's some occultist dimension to it.

01:38:41.000 Plainly, it's going on in the upper echelons of society, not just some diffuse thing.

01:38:46.000 Yeah.

01:38:46.000 No, and then you start to be like, okay, demons are real.

01:38:50.000 Okay, deception is real.

01:38:52.000 Okay, Satan is real. 1.00

01:38:55.000 And the minute you do that, you're like, holy shit, I need God. 0.99

01:38:59.000 Not just God, but I need somebody who's going to really protect. 0.99

01:39:05.000 Like, my soul and the soul of humanity.

01:39:09.000 Yeah.

01:39:09.000 And I need help.

01:39:11.000 I really, really need help with all of this.

01:39:13.000 Like, you know, I've been praying to God for a long time.

01:39:16.000 I, you know, reading the Torah.

01:39:19.000 But, like, Jesus, honestly, you read the New Testament, and it is the completion of this arc for humanity.

01:39:30.000 And it is this completion of this promise that And this desire God has for us to have a good, loving life in His image.

01:39:43.000 We are here just to love and serve our Heavenly Father.

01:39:45.000 We're not going around converting people.

01:39:47.000 I personally believe that.

01:39:48.000 Unless they want good converting.

01:39:49.000 Otherwise I'll baptize them right up. 0.99

01:39:51.000 It'll get such a baptizing.

01:39:53.000 That's me smashing the cross under the water.

01:39:55.000 Did you get in a river or something?

01:39:56.000 Or what did you get in?

01:39:57.000 Come on, you. 0.98

01:39:57.000 What did you do in? 0.98

01:39:58.000 Bottled water?

01:39:59.000 We used my heated swimming pool.

01:40:02.000 But it was really nice.

01:40:04.000 Yay! 0.99

01:40:04.000 You should have done it getting to the proper stinking river. 0.99

01:40:08.000 No, you're Baptist. 0.95

01:40:08.000 I'm not criticizing your baptism. 0.95

01:40:10.000 Did your bishop do it?

01:40:11.000 She did.

01:40:11.000 That's good, isn't it?

01:40:12.000 Perfect.

01:40:12.000 Spot on.

01:40:14.000 Lovely.

01:40:14.000 I'm going to go around baptizing people.

01:40:16.000 Why don't you?

01:40:16.000 Are you going to start doing that?

01:40:17.000 I've baptized already.

01:40:18.000 I stopped for a while.

01:40:19.000 Are you sure that you're qualified for that?

01:40:20.000 We're all qualified.

01:40:22.000 Is that true?

01:40:22.000 Yeah.

01:40:23.000 I don't feel qualified to do that.

01:40:24.000 The apostles were doing it.

01:40:25.000 He goes, get out there.

01:40:27.000 I need to bake a little bit more.

01:40:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:40:30.000 Nicole, thanks for coming on and thanks for chatting to us.

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War, Wokeism & Wealth: The Forces Reshaping Our World – SF542

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