Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson have a lot in common - they are both big fans of a certain type of media, and they both happen to be members of the old school legacy media. But what does this have to do with rape gangs in the UK? And is it time for the media to get a grip on the fact that the government did not do an inquiry into them?
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00:00:21.000Today is part two of our old Tommy Tommy.
00:00:25.000Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy Robinson special where we look at Tommy Robinson's documentary that was reposted by Elon Musk, which meant that in the UK, the government did do an inquiry into rape gangs rather than not doing an inquiry into rape gangs.
00:00:40.000So whatever they say about Tommy Robinson and whatever they say about Elon Musk, they are dictating and directing policy.
00:00:46.000And let me know in the comments and chat.
00:00:47.000I would say that if there are rape gangs in the UK raping young British women and have been for decades to the tune of thousands of victims, that maybe should have an inquiry into it.
00:00:57.000Hey, maybe the media should invest some time into that.
00:01:01.000Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
00:01:03.000We'll be with you wherever you're watching us, YouTube, X, whatever, for the first 20 minutes or so.
00:01:07.000Then we'll be exclusively available on our home.
00:01:27.000When it was exposed that basically the establishment of the what is that media organization, global media organization that ensures that they are all in tune with one another, that the BBC, the New York Times, Google Alphabet are all members of, I'll do some research, I'll find out about it.
00:01:43.000But you'd think once someone's life's on the line, you'd learn it.
00:01:45.000But I hand over my life today to Christ Jesus and the men around me now.
00:01:51.000For example, Jake's here producing the show.
00:06:04.000People can focus on whatever they want.
00:06:06.000I've always, as a person whose background comes somewhat from the cultural, if not economic, left, focused on the invasion of corporate market forces.
00:06:12.000Every time you see a mall somewhere, the one near where I lived last time I lived in the UK was called the Eden Center.
00:06:19.000And it was near, it was in High Wickham.
00:06:22.000They named it after sort of the perfection of God's early creation, a walled area where we might live freely.
00:06:30.000So I've always thought those sort of spaceships that are dropped from above, corporatised spaces, globally owned corporations that don't pay their taxes in the UK, Uber running the black cabs out of business.
00:06:41.000I've always thought economic and corporate power was the biggest threat, whilst I acknowledge people's concerns about mass migration, in particular in the last 20 years, I think is what people are talking about.
00:06:51.000Although in my country, Enoch Powell was talking about it from the 70s onwards and he's held up as a kind of hero of the right to some degree.
00:06:58.000But I'm always great, I always like to point out that the early waves of immigration from like West Indies and people from India and Pakistan and Bangladesh, whilst of course there's always been tension between human beings in general, it gave birth to this new kind of movement of ska in music and white working class and West Indian working class people got together and created great cultural artifacts together.
00:07:26.000And the school I went to is more like lots of white kids, but more Indian, Bangladeshi and Pakistani kids.
00:07:33.000And I think there was some racism thinking about it now.
00:07:37.000But in general, people cracked along, got on with it.
00:07:40.000And what I feel like is how can we address the evident problems of a media exploiting an incident, which is where Tommy Robinson starts his film, like the playground spat between a couple of kids that was exploited, it looks like, by the media.
00:07:56.000And the real problem, the cultural problems that appear to exist if what Tommy Robinson says about rape grooming gangs is true.
00:08:03.000And look, lots of people are getting convicted of that now.
00:08:05.000So it seems like it is true if you can trust the British justice system.
00:08:08.000And with regard to these matters, you can let me know in the comments and chat what you feel about it.
00:08:14.000Anyway, so what I want is for us to be able to talk about Tommy Robinson, the reason his voice is relevant, the reason his work is relevant, the reason he's a significant and important character, and indeed why he's so consistently attacked by the media.
00:08:27.000And I think that I will tell you this, that I'm also a divisive person, of course, now more than ever, perhaps in the public eye.
00:08:35.000But I'll tell you something I really noticed that scarred me and I'll never forget is when I sort of stepped out of being just a relatively vanilla person appearing in movies on TV, radio, online, live stand-up, all that, and started talking about politics more explicitly, the people that were most condemnatory, cruel and mean, like, were the lead.
00:08:56.000The British liberal establishment was so condescending and so mean.
00:09:00.000Like, they actually made things about the way I talk.
00:09:02.000Like, you know, it like sort of like, you can't talk like that with that accent.
00:09:05.000Honestly, I swear to God, then they realized what a faux pas that was.
00:09:13.000And Park Life was like sort of like a British actor called Phil Daniels talking about a load of stuff from like his diary and then going, Park Life, the band blur would do that.
00:09:22.000And when I first started doing online videos, there was this Park Life meme saying, whenever Russell Brand's talking about politics, don't you just hear Park Life at the end of every time he finishes a sentence?
00:09:32.000And I did like this really riposte video with a couple of good Jewish lads, as a matter of fact, that went on to work with James Corden, made this wicked video saying like, oh, when working class people have opinions on politics and you're from university, you like to condemn it, don't you?
00:09:45.000And then like, wouldn't it be nice if working class people didn't have a perspective on political opinions and didn't come together or like a park life did this?
00:10:20.000Okay, so the reason I mention all of that is because I think a good percentage of the hatred and ire directed at Tommy Robinson is because deep down, the professional media classes think working class people should shut the fuck up and do as they're told.
00:10:36.000And I think that the hatred of Trump supporters is the same thing.
00:10:39.000And I think the hatred heaped on people that vote for Brexit was the same thing.
00:10:43.000And in this area, in particular, Tommy Robinson's our ally.
00:11:01.000There was a spat between a Syrian refugee kid and a British native kid, and the media jumped on it and blew it up.
00:11:08.000It involved people like Piers Morgan, Jeremy Vine, who's a BBC sort of commentator and sort of pundit.
00:11:15.000So this is Tommy Robinson's documentary that Elon Musk posted that showed that the British government can be manoeuvred.
00:11:21.000And indeed, that's why the categories of misinformation and disinformation have been created, because some people somewhere have recognised, wait a minute, the minute the independent media and independent politics align, we are fucked because they'll be able to change the direction of entire nations.
00:11:37.000This is just the beginning of a phenomenon which I believe will change the world, i.e.
00:11:42.000activism, independent media, attacking and changing existing political institutions.
00:11:48.000Let me know what you think about that.
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00:11:53.000Problem in the school and well, no, I don't think there was.
00:12:02.000Tommy Robinson's tooled himself up with hidden cameras.
00:12:04.000He's going around talking to people about the case because no one would talk to him on camera.
00:12:08.000He's been to the headmaster at the school, filmed him saying that he'd signed NDAs.
00:12:12.000A lot of the people that were at this school that became the centre of this furore wouldn't talk about it publicly.
00:12:17.000Tommy Robinson got like cameras off, I think, his mate Steve or something delightful that he had a meeting he conducted on a forecourt outside of McDonald's and now he's going around interviewing people.
00:12:49.000So I don't know where I stand with it.
00:12:54.000I've got a lot of friends that are British Muslims that have that accent.
00:12:57.000And I don't want this to lead to a sense that there is no way that British Muslims and British Christians and British atheists, Sikhs, whatever, can all live together harmoniously.
00:14:31.000Do you think, because I'm into Jamal, because he came here two years ago, I've got so many negative things said about it now by so many people.
00:16:39.000How much money have they spent on this lie?
00:16:41.000We put in a freedom of information request to Kirkley's council to find out exactly how much they'd spent of taxpayers' money to get the silence of their staff.
00:17:19.000What I also like about watching this is you see Tommy Robinson in environments that are very familiar to me.
00:17:24.000Like the street I grew up in and the streets around my house and my nan's house, them kind of hedges, them kind of windows, them kind of houses.
00:17:31.000Then Freedom of Information Act requests, this is the kind of stuff that we're dealing with as a result of a lot of things that, you know, I'm going through.
00:17:39.000If you're a fan of this show and the work that we do, you'll know.
00:17:42.000So it's so interesting to see this world, you know, like where there's this guy that has to be tenacious and persistent pursuing counsels to find out if the council has spent money silencing people or legal fees or however they dress it up, I don't know.
00:17:58.000What I think is, it's a bit like when I'm talking about that guy, Mamdani, who let's face it, is from a difficult, a different political perspective in an entirely different environment.
00:18:07.000I think it's positive that he's emerged because look at the conversations people are having now about the way that you can run New York.
00:18:15.000You know, you don't have to just go, well, you could either have Kamala Harris or Joe Biden.
00:18:20.000You know, like there's so many different ways of running a nation, of running a state, of conducting an investigation of what a journalist looks like, of what an activist looks like, of essentially ways of confronting power that are very, very good at remaining stasis.
00:18:36.000The primary function of the system is to maintain itself.
00:18:38.000The way that it does that is it offers a false dichotomy, false choices, so that even when you think you're making a selection, you're just choosing one of them.
00:18:46.000Now, someone like Tommy Robinson is rattling sabres and shaking it up a little bit because they've wanted this to go away.
00:18:53.000They took the bold gambit of trying to use this to, in a sense, that general agenda of vilifying the working class, which is a way of, I would say, neutralising the kind of political change that would meaningfully impact the vast majority of people.
00:19:10.000Because if the left-wing, inverted commas, left-wing parties are fixated on identity issues, those are by definition issues that affect minorities.
00:19:19.000And it stopped being racial minorities or women's rights in the 70s, 80s, 90s and started to focus on trans issues and a variety of more niche issues.
00:19:29.000And I'm not suggesting Those issues aren't important.
00:19:31.000They are important, but what's the most important thing are the political issues that are going to meaningfully impact the lives of most people.
00:19:39.000And in a way, it comes down to economics, the ability of ordinary people to earn good money to control their lives.
00:19:45.000And maybe beyond that, and get this: that your life might not totally be dictated by the amount of money you earn.
00:19:52.000Like earlier today, someone's saying, you know, like that America used to be held together by what was written on the dollar bills in God We Trust.
00:19:59.000But actually, it's the dollar bills themselves that provide the cohesion in the United States of America.
00:20:04.000And given that one of the main crises in American culture right now is the debt crisis that's, you know, even caused a conflict between two of the most powerful men in the world today, Trump and Musk, it kind of shows you that our systems are faltering, failing.
00:20:19.000Debt and usury are forbidden throughout scripture.
00:20:21.000There's probably a good reason for it, whether you're a Muslim or a Christian or a Jew.
00:20:28.000We could be living very, very different lives.
00:20:30.000So why not watch Tommy Robinson in environments that are visually very familiar to me, using jargon that's become latterly familiar to me, for Freedom of Information Act requests from various newspaper entities, online entities, government departments, stuff that I'm involved in now.
00:20:47.000It's fascinating to see that the system, whilst powerful, has a fragility that's in particular brought to the forefront by independent media, by independent activism, by the threat that someone like Tommy Robinson presents.
00:21:02.000Yeah, I think there's enough historical documentation to show that if you underestimate the lower class, the working class, the people who you just sort of ride off as simple, that it doesn't go well for the establishment.
00:21:16.000If you actually underestimate the people, not what people are trying to show as the people, but the actual people.
00:21:24.000I mean, I think we got July 4th coming up.
00:22:43.000They're trying to make care, they're trying to make their control and authority look like care.
00:22:50.000And someone like this dude, Toby Robertson, he's a chippy, aggressive person who's not going to have it.
00:22:56.000And it's sort of the last kind of energy they need.
00:22:59.000I've got a different role, I believe, in the culture.
00:23:02.000My role is, can you have this kind of voice heard?
00:23:06.000And can you have the legitimate issues that he brings to the forefront explored and responded to without it leading to a kind of lateral hatred between members of the same economic class and same communities?
00:23:20.000That would be where I'd be interested in taking this conversation.
00:23:23.000No one can ever, this is forever, once you sign that agreement, no one can ever tell the truth while they push this manufactured lie that destroyed lives, schools, communities, everyone's life.
00:23:34.000I've seen life after life after life, person after person's life destroyed, while the council, your local council, Kirk Police Council, give away hundreds of thousands.
00:23:41.000Someone doing a literal wheelie in the background.
00:24:05.000Filthy yellow, unless you're on the methylene blue.
00:24:07.000If you have field of greens like me, you will look at your wee wee and you'll think, I should be like Madonna in the good old 80s and drink this stuff right back down.
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00:26:11.000Uh, additionally, um, what's that thing I want to say?
00:26:14.000Oh, yeah, thanks, Tim Cast and Crowder for the raids.
00:26:24.000I knew from day dot, I asked myself the question when this was blowing up and I knew the truth.
00:26:29.000I kept saying, How come no teacher's telling the truth?
00:26:31.000If all those teachers know what's gone on in that school, how come none of them are coming out and saying, Well, now we know now, the whole world's going to know.
00:26:40.000Because Coatley Council paid them not to.
00:27:07.000He just didn't really have respect for the female students, to be honest.
00:27:14.000Yeah, basically, we were in a P lesson and we were playing hockey with a teacher called Mr. Cattell.
00:27:23.000I had taken the hockey puck off of Jamal because I was on the other team and sent it to the other side of the room where my teammates were.
00:27:31.000I then turned around and just felt a really sharp pain in my back.
00:27:35.000He'd swung the hockey stick over his head and hit me in the spine with it.
00:27:39.000Is there, do you think there's any way that could have been an accident?
00:28:25.000This is one thing I want to point out is that in the end, woke kind of ideology, it breaks down, as it does ludicrously when people advocate, like queers for Palestine, say.
00:28:36.000I'm not saying that the oppressed people of the world don't have a shared problem.
00:28:39.000Indeed, that's one of the key tenets of communism, the sort of internationalist idea that all of the world's oppressed should unite together.
00:28:48.000Were it under God, were it under the divine principles of the Holy One.
00:28:52.000But what you're continually exposed to is a sort of hypocrisy, because the attacks that followed and the media furore that followed this incident when it was initially reported on by the mainstream media was all about, oh, this refugee kid, he should be shiltered, he could be sanctioned.
00:29:06.000But if what Tommy Robinson and that young woman suggest that he was actually a little bit of a misogynistic bully, oh, so which minority, oh, so what if a refugee is a bully?
00:29:19.000Refugees or misogyny or the rights of women and girls?
00:29:22.000And that's obviously the whole transgender sport issue is brought to the forefront, the hypocrisy and impossibility of rational human-oriented philosophy being used as the set of principles and doctrine by which we run our lives.
00:30:21.000Well, my question was, was in the UK, what are the laws of like recording somebody without their consent?
00:30:27.000Because I know that in the United States, there are some states that are like a one-party consent state where you can film them.
00:30:33.000If one person knows it's filming, it's all right.
00:30:35.000Then there's others where it's two-party where like if you're in a court case and the other person didn't know they were being recorded, it can't be admissed into as evidence.
00:30:42.000So what's like the UK standard for recording people?
00:30:45.000Well, it's very interesting that there is such a thing as non-disclosure agreements, but often them non-disclosure agreements are sort of not really worth their paper they're written on.
00:30:54.000But then you're talking about the principle of admissibility and that's significant because there's information.
00:30:59.000This is partly relates to the situation I'm in because journalists can behave in a certain way, ask certain questions, present information in a particular way because they're not lawyers in a court of law.
00:31:10.000But the police can't conduct an investigation in that way.
00:31:14.000So if you find yourself in a situation where the police are relying on material generated, for example, by newspapers and media groups, you're going to find yourself in contradictory and troubling jams, you know, because there are different standards and sets of rules and principles that apply.
00:31:30.000So I suppose Tommy Robinson, he's operating in the field of PR.
00:31:34.000And you can see he's getting traction in the media because Elon Musk reposts his thing, now there's an inquiry.
00:31:41.000But parallel and in tandem, he keeps getting arrested.
00:31:45.000He's just off of a year or near enough a year for contempt of court.
00:31:50.000He will have to go to court again for something else.
00:31:52.000So what I believe this is, is institutional power is recognizing that it faces new threats and it's trying to re-examine its armaments and artillery.
00:32:03.000If this continues, I think they've worked out, and this is what Martin Guri's brilliant book, The Revolt of the Public, is about, if we have mass communication to this degree, not only are you going to get the collapse of NAPSTA, because the music industry doesn't know how to cope.
00:32:15.000Obviously, it's readjusted since then.
00:32:17.000You're not only going to get the Arab Spring, the rise of the Occupy movement, you're not just going to get Brexit or Trump, which many people put down to groups like Cambridge Analytica and targeted advertising.
00:32:26.000No, the biggest threat is you're going to get mass uprising and mass awakening.
00:32:31.000A big incident happens that viscerally impacts people.
00:32:33.000The Southport murder of those three girls being one such example, the kind of thing that people, that reaches people like, oh my God, three kids got murdered.
00:33:05.000Well, what they're saying is if you're doing it correctly or you're trying to find, make sure you're, you know, got in your I's, crossing your T's, that only matters if you're actually trying to seek the truth.
00:33:15.000So they're not trying to seek the truth.
00:33:16.000They don't want to know all the details.
00:33:18.000They want the narrative to be what the narrative is.
00:33:21.000So it's way easier just to pay people to not talk and then, you know, scare people into not uncovering the truth.
00:33:28.000So if you can get somebody like Tommy to just go to jail and then give up, it makes me think about the scripture that says, don't grow weary in doing good.
00:33:39.000Like, don't grow tired of, they're going to keep trying to bombard you with stuff, but keep fighting for the truth.
00:33:46.000And I think the more people that rise up, that's when it's going to get harder for them to continue to knock people back down.
00:33:54.000And so I think, you know, what we do on the show and what you are so good at doing is about empowering people while you continue to say stay free.
00:34:03.000It's about the people rising up because the more people that rise up, you'll have to expose the truth, right?
00:34:10.000What are you saying, Messi, my friend?
00:34:12.000Yeah, you're saying about them using basically lawfare against Tommy Robinson.
00:34:16.000I'm sure he's done some things which are illegal, as I'm sure all of us have done things, which are illegal, like inadvertently.
00:34:22.000If you want to find a problem with somebody, if someone becomes an enemy of the state or the media, which are basically the same thing, you can go and just, I'll just audit that person every year until I find they've done something wrong with their taxes and then I'll do them for tax fraud or mortgage fraud or anything like that.
00:34:36.000It was interesting after the Southport stuff, you know, this was a backlash to people, backlash on the government because people were sick of hearing about, you know, Muslim rape gangs and terrorist attacks and stuff like that.
00:34:48.000And the police weren't really doing anything against that.
00:34:50.000But as soon as there was a backlash, that was a threat to the state and a threat to the establishment.
00:34:55.000And Keir Starmer immediately, well, we will stop people from rioting and we'll even go after the people whipping up stuff online.
00:35:02.000So when anything threatens the state, they go against it.
00:35:04.000Tommy Robertson's threatened the state.
00:35:30.000And even though there'll be loads of things I would disagree with Tommy Robinson on, and I keep mentioning what they might be probably, you know, but I'd love to talk to him directly about it.
00:35:38.000I do agree that we need people like Tommy Robinson that are brave.
00:35:42.000That's what I'd say about the Mam Darni thing.
00:35:44.000I might not agree with him on a million things, but like I do believe in political opportunity and political choice and variety and actually democracy.
00:35:52.000So what's, I suppose, excited about him is he's a nightmare because he has tenacity.
00:36:35.000Because for all I know, the things that I am concerned about might not be true.
00:36:40.000Like, what I'm concerned about is the idea that, look, now Britain has a large Muslim population.
00:36:44.000I wouldn't agree that it was right to deport people.
00:36:47.000It's clear there are migration issues and cultural and social tensions that appear to center around mass migration and in particular what people would refer to as Islamic extremism.
00:36:58.000But I would believe and do believe that there has to be a way of creating genuine cohesion between people of a variety of races and a variety of religions while simultaneously acknowledging the indigenous and original faith of the islands of the UK, i.e.
00:37:13.000it was for a long time a Christian country.
00:37:16.000Maybe you can argue it was a Celtic country before that.
00:37:19.000Who knows what arguments you want to make?
00:37:20.000But if you don't have an agreement about what a country is, you're going to have a bunch of disagreement and a bunch of conflict and social configuration.
00:37:28.000And it's difficult to instantiate, I would suggest and suspect, conscription.
00:37:32.000Because if you've got conscriptions, for example, in Israel, it's like, well, we know what Israel stands for and we know what Israel's going through.
00:37:38.000And a lot of people hate Israel and a lot of people love Israel.
00:37:42.000But none of us have got any doubts about what the religion is, what the agenda is, what the goals are.
00:37:48.000And you can say the same about Palestine or in the form of Hamas.
00:37:53.000And if you can envisage sort of a less militant version of Palestine, what do they want?
00:37:58.000Sovereignty, the right to control and govern their own territory.
00:38:02.000But what seems to be happening in France, the UK, Germany, is a dissolution and a bureaucratization above the level of the nation of the principles upon which those nations were founded.
00:38:15.000And I'm even simply the argument that maybe that needed to happen.
00:38:18.000Because there were some pre, in the case of Germany, literally barbaric countries, in the case of our country, UK, you know, plundering, colonial, imperialist, exploitative, usually done under the auspices of, you know, we're going to bring democracy in railroad tracks around the world.
00:38:38.000You know, like it was all sort of like, you know, like power and creation of institutional power kills people, man.
00:38:46.000And like, we're at a point where there's a requirement for a reckoning because when you see an FA Cup final where the players are taking the knee to take a stand against racism in front of the royal family, you might Have some hypocrisy and contradiction that needs to be addressed because you don't have a royal family without not only racism,
00:39:07.000like someone using the N-word or the P-word, going to countries and butchering people and taking the country and then dressing up and saying this was our country, it always is our country.
00:39:17.000In like in the film Gandhi, like the sort of Raj sort of says to Gandhi, but India is British and Gandhi's like, mate, it ain't.
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00:42:42.000Pushing me and like, so I quickly moved out of there because obviously I knew what he was like, he would have actually hit me in the store.
00:42:48.000So I moved and then he moved his arm as if he was going to try to stop me.
00:42:54.000But he did have on that day he spat at you multiple times.
00:43:54.000He talks about growing up in Luton and how Luton was radically changed by Islam and that there were gangs and a gang culture and then obviously moved into like the rape gang stuff and like how extreme this gets.
00:44:06.000But like, is there a tendency to conflate?
00:44:11.000The idea that there is a disproportionate amount of financial power in banks or whatever institutions, you know, the claims of anti-Semitism.
00:44:24.000Are there like, well, how you can look at different racial characteristics or cultural groups across the world and make all sorts of potential observations.
00:44:32.000But when you start to use that to persecute an entire group of people, that's a problem.
00:44:40.000And I guess that's what I'm wondering when it comes to Muslims.
00:44:45.000But I don't, I didn't, I don't think I've ever heard him say all Muslims should be deported.
00:44:48.000I think I've heard him say Britain is a Christian country and all stuff like that, you know, which it isn't because it's a secular country.
00:45:04.000Instead of saying, like, sin is universal.
00:45:06.000It doesn't matter if you're Muslim, black, white, whatever.
00:45:10.000You know, if a kid's hitting somebody with a hockey stick, to be treated fairly would to be, hey, you're going to get in trouble just like the white kid's going to get in trouble.
00:45:19.000But I think that's hard for people because it all becomes a bigger issue.
00:45:24.000I've heard him talk about this when he was on Jordan Peterson.
00:45:27.000And he said that basically the initial bit of video that created the media storm of the white lad Bailey pouring water on Jamal's face was itself a response to a series of other altercations, including, I think, if I remember rightly, him threatening that Bailey's little sister or something.
00:45:49.000So it's not like a, I'm a racist and I hate refugees.
00:45:53.000It was more like, you little bastard, you fucking started on my sister.
00:45:56.000It's much more like normal kid stuff that was exploited by the media because they like telling a very, very particular story.
00:46:12.000I think there's also this idea that like, you know, people, especially on the left, like to protect these groups, these minority groups and these people.
00:46:21.000But like, this is something that I always thought is like, you know, you can be a minority.
00:46:41.000The counter-argument is that some people publicly say that Islam in particular encourages traits and attributes due directly to its tenets that bring to the forefront aspects of human nature.
00:46:54.000Now, though, I've got another point that I think right important, which is initially the function of the left, the emergence of what you would call the communist left, the literal Marxist left, was a response to industrialization, which in itself is an evolution of the serf class of peasant agriculture, both chronologically and in terms of evolving markets.
00:47:17.000That when you have industry, you have a requirement for a working class that does working class jobs in factories, shipyards, etc., etc.
00:47:26.000And the part of the point of Marxism was why is it that you have these hierarchies where at the bottom of it, the people are doing all the work that's bone, soul-crushing and bone-breaking, and they never get to see a completed bicycle.
00:47:42.000There are aspects even within Das Capital, I think, where he says, you know, people should have leisure time, that your life shouldn't be completely defined by what you do for a living.
00:47:52.000When the left, the political left, like social democracies of the modern age, abandon the working class, so there's no way that Bill Clinton's party was about the working class or Tony Blair's party was about the working class.
00:48:04.000They have to now go, oh, what is it we do?
00:48:07.000What's our point of difference from the Conservative Party and the Republican Party?
00:48:11.000We protect not the vast majority of working people.
00:48:18.000We represent the intelligentsia, the metropolitan elites, the professional classes, and we will protect trans people, refugees, the most vulnerable people.
00:48:28.000So they had to really create that category of these minorities in order to continue to legitimize their whole political perspective, which was now redundant once they'd accepted we don't care about working class people no more.
00:48:43.000Like indeed, a sort of an out-and-out communist has more moral authority than a social democratic sort of like because at least.
00:48:54.000Yeah, at least they believe something that's real.
00:48:56.000But really, I would say our political models can no longer be born of the response to industrialization, i.e.
00:49:04.000Oh my God, we can produce all this stuff.
00:49:06.000Capitalism went all crazy as a result of it and became mass global capitalism, disposability, disregard for the planet, throwing everything away, built-in obsolescence, all sorts of dumb, stupid ideas.
00:49:17.000And communism became sort of like state control to the degree where people were getting gulaged and executed.
00:49:23.000What we need are political systems that are a response to our new technology, which is why I always return to decentralization because industrialization afforded concentration and centralization and technology, decentralization.
00:49:37.000There's no reason why we actually could run Florida or even Fertier or Manchester or wherever.
00:50:50.000Jamal grabbed him by his tie, which just threw him against the wall, cracked his head open against the back wall, and just kept throwing him against the wall.
00:52:05.000Jehovah's Witness, I will say, if you're not going to get no Christmas presents or a blood transfusion, you are exposing yourself to potential ridicule at school, I would say.
00:52:16.000Yeah, I mean, we had, back in the day, I think you just, everybody was gay.
00:52:36.000We just swung to the, I mean, the bullies are like all of the liberal kids that are going against the conservative, like the kids that have more traditional.
00:52:45.000Like if the kids are not like, yeah, I don't want to be taught like all, you know, transgender stuff, whatever.
00:53:12.000And the whole thing and they turned on him because he wasn't a popular kid anymore.
00:53:15.000Yeah, well, that was the whole dynamic of that is that Jonah Hill's character was like a nerd and bullied by James Adams' character and they go back to school and now Jonah Hill, because he was a nerd, is not the most popular character.
00:53:40.000Yeah, I mean, that's 10 years ago already.
00:53:42.000And that was the beginning of that shift where it was like, now we're on some.
00:53:47.000Well, like, I remember being in high school and, like, the shift had just happened.
00:53:52.000And, like, there was like girls that were having like seminars in the auditorium about like different gender ideology and sexual orientation and whatever, talking about, like, pansexual and all this stuff.
00:55:27.000The couple of kids that they had, they used to bully the kids.
00:55:32.000This is probably like a bit of a low note to have kind of almost ended on, but like with importing so many people into the UK, I'm like a direct product of that.
00:55:44.000And if my dad hadn't come here during like mass migration, then my mum and my dad and I wouldn't exist.
00:55:49.000But that being said, like the history of humanity is just a history of people with differences killing each other, especially when you look at the history of Europe.
00:55:58.000Thousands of years of people just killing each other.
00:56:01.000French people and Italian people killing each other because they're different.
00:56:04.000But like someone from the Middle East looking at French and Italian people, they're like as similar as us looking at people from the Middle East.
00:56:10.000You look Irish people killing each other like within Ireland.
00:56:13.000So I just don't see where this goes when you import people from the other side of the world over in like crazy numbers where they clearly can't assimilate.
00:56:22.000And we expect, well, all of a sudden, human nature is just going to change because we're progressive.
00:56:32.000Decentralized power, because a lot of those things are not resource wars or ideological wars.
00:56:37.000Now, look, there's a famous phrase that, you know, if everyone had the same religion and the same nationality, within days, the right-handed would declare war against the left-handed.
00:56:46.000But I think that a lot of tension is sort of generated and stoked.
00:56:52.000And even though we know from our own lives that conflict is somewhat regular, isn't it also astonishing that there ain't more?
00:57:00.000Like when I think about like about, when I actually directly get involved in conflict, like because I put my own interests ahead of someone else's, generally, that's what causes it, or someone else, I perceive them to put their interests ahead of mine, the confrontation can normally be resolved.
00:57:15.000Well, you did that, you pulled in there, that was my parking space, you know, like sort of that kind of stuff.
00:57:19.000There's normally some sort of resolution achievable unless both of you.
00:57:23.000So there is a requirement for adjudication, there is a requirement for cohesion, there is a requirement for a set of shared ideals.
00:57:30.000But probably now more than ever, whilst we're living in this kind of mad and giddying diaspora and blizzard of opposing opinions, the potential for treaties, for mass treaties, really exists now.
00:57:42.000I think it would be possible using the technology that creates the centralization that allows Uber to operate or Airbnb to operate, you could have cohesive political systems where you have maximal control over community budgets, maximal control over political rule and governance in a community.
00:58:01.000The ideas that would have to be put aside were the point of life is to work and consume, the point of life is to progress and control.
00:58:08.000Once people, like when you've passed, if you've ever participated in any direct democracy, and I've got limited experience of it, I belong to sort of support groups that are essentially anarchist in the right way, meaning everything has to be discussed and voted on and agreed upon.
00:58:22.000That's what anarchy means, smallest level of management and rule.
00:58:27.000And I've also participated, albeit briefly, In the Occupy Wall Street movement, because I happened to be filming there while that was going on, and I popped down a couple of times.
00:58:35.000And what you'll learn is assembly, and if you've ever been a part of a synagogue or a church or whatever where people discuss stuff, it takes ages.
00:58:41.000And you think, I wish I could just take this over with charisma and do it my way, but you can't.
00:59:21.000But like, you know, like if you started to move in that direction, then it'll be elective.
00:59:26.000You could say, look, look, if you are a fundamentalist Muslim and you absolutely aren't going to negotiate on that, go live in one of the fundamentalist Muslim fucking communities.
00:59:35.000Or if you're absolutely totally down with Christianity to such a degree that you can't bear X, Y, Z, go live in one of them.
00:59:42.000Or if you are an absolute secularist or you want to live a hedonistic lifestyle where it's just all people sucking each other off all day, go live in one of them.
00:59:50.000Like in the end, it would have to have some sort of geographical corollary, but there would have to be an agreement that where you live physically is governed democratically at the smallest possible unit.
01:00:01.000And that's like, I don't, you know what I mean?
01:00:02.000I don't, obviously, I've not worked out how to solve the problems of world power, but I do know that the tendency shouldn't be towards global domination and global governance.
01:00:11.000It should be towards community governance and individual sovereignty.
01:00:14.000So in a way, all them people that are social justice warriors are right.
01:00:47.000You're too connected to things you don't need to be connected to.
01:00:50.000And I think even the natural flows of nature, like you said, when we lived in Pittsburgh and it was winter and you had snow and you had ice and things had to slow down.
01:01:00.000And even because of technology, we could change our tires and drive through the snow and things can stay up.
01:01:05.000But back in the day, you would shut down.
01:01:10.000You would have to had work to store up for that cold time.
01:01:14.000And if you didn't store up for it, you'd die.
01:01:17.000There was some natural ebbs and flows.
01:01:19.000And so if God created it to flow that way for all of time and we've all of a sudden decided, no, we're going to work through all that time.
01:01:35.000Most of it is an unconscious expression of something else.
01:01:39.000Most of the time you'll eat food or buy something.
01:01:41.000You're not eating food because you're hungry.
01:01:42.000You're eating food because you're sad.
01:01:44.000You're not looking at your phone because you're going to communicate with someone.
01:01:46.000You're looking at your phone because you're bored or you want to be numb.
01:01:48.000You're not looking at pornography because you're turned on.
01:01:50.000You're looking at pornography because you want to distract yourself from the way that you feel.
01:01:54.000Like when our first baby was born, like my wife went and learned all about like what was the general term seemed to be hypnobirthing, but what it really meant was sort of conscientious birthing practices that got right down to even the language you use to describe sensations of the process of contraction and even labor.
01:02:16.000And the process of her educating herself led me to understand that medicalization of childbirth is obviously helpful because there used to be a lot more child mortality prior to medical excellence.
01:02:30.000But what that in the end led to was almost a desacralization of the process of birth, which generally speaking, the majority of the time, God willing, is something that women can conduct themselves with men as sort of peripheral participants.
01:02:45.000Like women have the knowledge, women have the experience.
01:02:48.000It's a female-centric endeavor and area, obviously.
01:02:52.000Over time, because of child mortality and medical reasons that are totally legitimate, the tendency was to control it.
01:03:00.000And you realise there's this weird balance because it's not like, well, we want to go back to Victorian levels of infant mortality or do you, in your pursuit of these noble ideas of mother nature and the power of the divine feminine?
01:03:14.000And it's no, it's not that, it's some kind of balance where we acknowledge and accept that tech is technology being you do you now in retrospect believe that the COVID pandemic and the measures taken were put in place because human life is so sacred and so special we must do everything we can to protect one another and love one another or do you think it was a wealth grab a power grab an opportunity to pilot how much you can control people legitimize censorship shut down communication what was it it was obviously the latter they used
01:03:44.000the idea of the sanctity of life to legitimize control.
01:03:48.000And that's what they're doing with this story.
01:04:39.000So like in Pittsburgh, you know, the Indian population was pretty big.
01:04:43.000And so, um we had just just the kids were just kids it doesn't matter what race they were where they came from but you know one day the kids rode all over a car with a rock and scratched into the side of a random car and we Had to work that out, and I could tell, like, it had nothing to do with like bad kids because this kid was a you know, from a different background.
01:05:09.000It was just they made the wrong decision, and there was even people trying to tiptoe like who did this, who did this?
01:05:17.000Was it this kid or I bet it was that kid?
01:05:19.000And you're like, No, it could be any of the kids that were all hanging out together.
01:05:24.000And now, as parents, our responsibilities are to help them not do that again.
01:05:29.000Yeah, and that was just a yeah, we can't extrapolate the principles that you used to manage a sort of a community of kids, to manage a nation of kids, let alone international.
01:05:41.000So, I think that all roads lead to, ironically, not Rome, but the opposite of Rome, the mass decentralization of power wherever possible.
01:05:50.000The principle is in that community, like a jury of peers decided to handle it in that way.
01:05:56.000Like, I would decouple political power from economic power immediately.
01:06:00.000Make sort of political powers like a dreary trudge through, oh my God, we've got to spend this money on the drains or filling these potholes.
01:06:08.000Or now we've got to make a decision whether our community is going to allow farmers to use this pesticide because the EU, they're saying that they want to ban this pesticide, but we've decided we're using it.
01:06:20.000And then I suppose there will be issues where it's like, well, that in 12 steps and 12 traditions more important, it says every group is fully autonomous and fully self-supporting, fully autonomous, except in matters affecting other groups or the 12 steps as a whole.
01:06:37.000So if we make a decision in our little group, we're going to go rampaging around causing fucking chaos, that affects the whole.
01:06:44.000So that's where you require law enforcement, military, whatever.
01:06:47.000But can you think how much this stuff could be reduced when half of Pentagon budgets, over half, end up going to military-industrial complex companies who pay those lobbyists for a start?
01:06:58.000And I know, like, it's not cheap to make the brilliant equipment they make, but the lobbyists, draw their salaries, that's fucking gone on day one.
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