Russell Brand is back in America, and he's got a brand new podcast. He's joined by his good friend Gareth Barker to talk about Bill Maher's appearance on HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher, and the fallout from his appearance on the Bill Maher Show. Plus, Gareth tells us about his new podcast, Brandemic, and we take a look at some of the craziest things that have happened in the world in the past couple of years, including the election of Xi Jinping and the release of Matt Hancock's leaked WhatsApp messages to the media. And we look at why we should all be worried about what Matt Hancock might be up to, and why he should be scared of it. And, of course, there's a bit of conspiracy theory about what could be going on in the rest of the world and why it's a good thing we don't know what's going on there. All that and much more on this week's episode of You're Gonna See The Future, hosted by Russell Brand and Gareth Barker. You won't want to miss this one! You can catch it on Rumble, wherever you get your podcasts, if you're listening to podcasts. You don't have to be a subscriber to RUMBLE to get access to the whole show. You're not going to get more information about the show on Rumble anywhere else. You'll just have to go to Rumble to find it. The whole show is only be available on Rumble.co.nz/YouWakingWonders to watch the full show on your favourite streaming platform and subscribe and subscribe to the podcasting platform where it's ad-free and all the best listening to the show. You get all the latest updates and the best bits and bizz you can be part of the RUMBER community. Thank you for listening to YouWaking Wonders, you get the show that's all that and more! You'll get everything you need to know about the future of the future, plus a whole lot more. You're gonna love it! - including the best podcast you'll never know where else. - your host, you won't be hearing about it anywhere else on the world's most influential podcast, right here. and so much more. Thanks for listening, you'll get the whole thing, you're not gonna wanna know about it, right there on Rumble? - RMR! RMR is a show like that? - The Awakening WOW!
00:01:22.000How can you have energy companies that profit when there's an energy crisis, military-industrial conflicts that profits when it's a war, pharmaceutical companies that profit when there's a pandemic?
00:01:30.000You're creating the necessity for ongoing crisis.
00:01:33.000Decentralization and meaningful attacks of systemic power are the only way that America and the world can progress.
00:03:44.000I don't even know what non-responsive is.
00:03:47.000Hey, listen, after about 10, 20 minutes, in fact, I think we're going to stream for 30 minutes on YouTube today, but after that, we're going to be giving you some new information around the pandemic.
00:03:59.000Apparently, at the beginning, he had some interesting questions about medication that Matt Hancock's leaked WhatsApp messages reveal were not communicated to the general public.
00:04:10.000If you're an American, you won't know who Matt Hancock is, and you're bloody lucky not to know, frankly.
00:04:14.000In our country, he was the head of the health.
00:05:48.000Yeah, I mean obviously if you have a look at Joe Biden's animatronic
00:05:52.000presidential representative, perhaps the first thing you'll notice is it's
00:05:55.000somewhat more cogent than the actual person in the White House.
00:05:59.000And with chatbot GPT advancing at the rate that it is, all you really would have to do is attach that to this animatronic presidential mannequin and improve democracy significantly.
00:06:10.000But nevertheless, have a look at the animatronic Joe Biden.
00:06:38.000Also, with all the stern and drang around progressivism and American democracy, do you notice that sort of everyone, all of them waxworks, just looks basically the same?
00:06:48.000I mean, you could interchange any of them, couldn't you?
00:08:24.000There shouldn't be a cognitive test, you shouldn't be tested.
00:08:26.000People should take a good faith that as you enter your decline and dotage, that you're sharp as a tack, even if there's strong evidence to the contrary.
00:08:33.000So here, this CNN broadcaster puts it to Jill Biden that her husband should be subject to cognition tests as he enters the winter chill of later life.
00:11:11.000The main thing that's come from this visit to America and appearing in what are known as right-wing spaces, places it would have been inconceivable for me to have visited even a few years ago.
00:11:21.000Check out the video of me outside Fox News just a few years ago, like, baiting the security there, baiting them.
00:11:29.000Don't put that out, that's not helping me.
00:11:35.000You wouldn't have been able to imagine that I would go on to shows like that, but now I've gone in there and had conversations that I think are... I don't know if they're significant culturally, but I reckon they're the type of conversation that we need to have.
00:11:48.000Essentially, the alliances can be formed.
00:11:50.000By people on the periphery, regardless of what their political allegiance is.
00:11:55.000For example, you might be super into progressivism, identity politics, social justice, BLM.
00:12:01.000Or you might be ultra-traditional, conservative, religious.
00:12:05.000And you've got more in common with other people on the periphery of the cultural debate
00:12:09.000than you do with centralized authoritarianism as represented by media power and current congressional
00:12:42.000Ben, would you stand on a platform with people that were into like trans issues and like were literally pro-choice and stuff that Ben Shapiro, I think it's safe to say, pretty avowedly disagrees with.
00:12:56.000If it meant that you would have the authority to run your community, school system, health, education independently as a part of an autonomous community, they could run their communities autonomously.
00:13:05.000Essentially what we're talking about is the necessity for decentralization.
00:13:08.000And I think this is the big idea that I'm interested in, and I'm largely informed,
00:13:13.000if you're a regular viewer of this show, you'll know, by Martin Gury's ideas from the book
00:13:17.000The Revolt of the Public, where he argues that since the information age utterly annihilated
00:13:23.000the pre-existing centralized media and power systems, it became necessary either to have
00:13:28.000more centralized authoritarianism or a different set of publics coagulating around different
00:13:34.000issues and ultimately creating more democracies, i.e. devolve power wherever possible.
00:14:08.000It fascinates me that that's where you can have the conversation.
00:14:11.000I was also fascinated to find out that people on the avowed, committed, and determined right
00:14:16.000were much, were equally critical of centralized authority and centralized power.
00:14:21.000Like Tucker Carlson said, I don't have no alliance to the Republican Party no more.
00:14:26.000Like Steven Crowder that we spoke to to help him launch his new show on Rumble.
00:14:33.000He was saying, I don't have no alliance.
00:14:35.000These people are overtly and explicitly right wing.
00:14:38.000And all of these conversations were couched in, I don't agree with you on a bunch of issues.
00:14:42.000a bunch, it's a long, long list. But ultimately, where we are now is we're at a point where if we're
00:14:47.000not willing to allow other people to have different views from us, then we're going to remain entrenched
00:14:53.000and intransigent in a static situation that benefits people that are already running the system.
00:14:59.000That was, I guess, the main take-home of that trip.
00:15:02.000It was, and I think a lot of the publicity around this and the kind of hit pieces that were coming
00:15:08.000out were really misrepresenting what you were doing.
00:15:11.000And overtly, your point about going on all of these shows was to say, we have things that we disagree on, points where we disagree, but through communication, through conversing, through coming up and talking through these ideas, talking through the complexity and the nuance, which obviously people don't enjoy in the public sphere anymore, certainly not in the media sphere.
00:15:31.000That we can reach conclusions, we can reach ways in which we do agree in forming alliances through this.
00:15:36.000And that was present throughout all these interviews.
00:15:40.000Isn't it also an issue that comes up, let me know if you agree with us, let me know in the chat right now, with what's happening with the Jan Six staff and Tucker Carlson and what's happening to Matt Taibbi and Schellenberger with these congressional hearings.
00:15:51.000Ultimately, centralised power is making this claim, You, ordinary people, the public, all of us I'm putting in that category of ordinary people, i.e.
00:15:59.000human beings with eyes and faces and feet and stuff, are unable to discern the truth for ourselves and information needs to be centrally controlled and censored in order for us to make decisions.
00:16:13.000with the January 6th stuff, whether you like Tucker Carlson or agree with Tucker Carlson or not, and I told him in that conversation, he goes, Have you found yourself having conversations with people that you wouldn't agree with?
00:16:25.000And I told him that I didn't agree with his stance on, for example, homelessness.
00:16:29.000And he said that he regretted some of the things that he said about homelessness.
00:16:32.000But obviously, the information that Fox News or the footage that Fox News are releasing around January the 6th has been edited.
00:16:40.000But the fact that that shaman dude didn't get access to it for his own legal defense is interesting.
00:16:47.000And it's pretty clear that it's a story that's being used without endorsing any, whether you want to call it an insurrection or a protest or however you want to understand it, whatever suits you.
00:16:57.000You know, I don't know what's best for you to describe it.
00:17:02.000Because what we're seeing again and again are crisis situations utilised to centralise power.
00:17:08.0009-11, which obviously I acknowledge was a tragedy, was used to legitimise more surveillance.
00:17:13.000The pandemic was used to legitimise more regulation and lockdowns.
00:17:18.000And it seems, if Matt Hancock's WhatsApp leaks are to be believed, that even scientists, the scientists upon whose opinion we were most reliant, were being curtailed, directed and controlled.
00:17:31.000We'll talk more about that Exclusively on Rumble when we click over.
00:17:34.000Because indeed, our raison d'etre for joining Rumble is specifically so we can have these conversations directly with you.
00:17:40.000Because I think you can understand nuance.
00:17:42.000I think you can discern for yourself what the truth is.
00:17:45.000That you can look at me and say, oh, Russell Brand's got his own biases.
00:17:47.000He's going to make mistakes sometimes, plainly.
00:17:50.000He's not making a claim to know everything.
00:17:52.000And I probably know even less than I think that I know.
00:17:55.000The amount I know about reality is negligible.
00:17:58.000The sum total of human knowledge is negligible in the limitless expanse of all potential realities.
00:18:03.000So the fact that different people see the world differently is something that's going to have to be understood and embraced.
00:18:08.000On the subject of January the 6th, I think it was Daily Wire that published this, who I also had conversations with and very much enjoyed them.
00:18:14.000January 6th was, according to White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.
00:18:21.000Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer explained that the riot of Jan 6th was a violent insurrection And in order to preserve democracy Schumer said Fox News should take Tucker Carlson off the air.
00:18:29.000I think as a general rule those that are advocating for censorship and more centralized control ought be regarded skeptically.
00:19:00.000Do you feel like they have amplified its significance in order to legitimize this 2.1 billion emergency bill?
00:19:07.000Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments.
00:19:09.000Do you think you can handle nuanced information, a diverse range of POVs on a subject like this, so that you can make your own mind up about it?
00:19:18.000Or would you prefer that the government and the media censored it for you because you're too stupid?
00:19:22.000I mean, it seems like a rhetorical trick to even say that because it's so bloody obvious what the answer is, isn't it?
00:19:29.000I think it's the lack of nuance, isn't it?
00:19:31.000I mean, you can think whatever you want about Tucker and Fox's reporting of the Jansic stuff recently.
00:19:37.000You can say that they're cherry-picking information and editing stuff, and I'm sure that's true.
00:19:42.000In the same way that maybe on the other side things were cherry-picked or, I don't know, exaggerated to paint a certain narrative in one way.
00:19:50.000But either way you look at it, if the end result is what you get to, is an increase in laws around protest, which is definitely happening.
00:19:58.000As Branko Markic writes in the Jacobin from last year, I don't know if we'll get to this here, but he says, what we've got instead is one thing, the only thing that the Washington establishment and depressingly many rank-and-file liberals clearly still believe the country is capable of doing.
00:20:14.000Ramping up the national security state.
00:20:16.000In response to the Capitol riot, the Capitol Police have become a national, unfoilable anti-terrorism squad.
00:20:22.000The FBI has doubled the number of its domestic counter-terror agents, and consequently its domestic terrorism caseload, an explosion of anti-protest laws, and there's talk of more security state expansion to come.
00:20:33.000And so this is, you could argue, what they wanted to happen anyway.
00:20:37.000A lot like we talk about the pandemic and things that occurred in the pandemic.
00:20:51.000Let us know in the chat in the comments where you fall on that issue.
00:20:54.000Now, what I would say we have to do to be discerning and to be responsible is not go to the right extreme, particularly the Unempirical and unprovable extremists saying and therefore the pandemic was a construct or therefore the January 6th was entirely constructed by deep state agencies.
00:21:09.000I think that if you say that and you can't prove that, that plays into their hands.
00:21:13.000What you can say is that these things advantage establishment power.
00:21:19.000They legitimize extra expenditure, they legitimize extra regulation.
00:21:24.000Now before we click over to being exclusively on Rumble, where we'll be talking in depth
00:21:28.000about some of the revelations that Matt Hancock's text messages reveal, not to mention Robert
00:21:34.000Redfield and his eerily close to Robert Redford name, like that dude's got a bunch of revelations
00:22:29.000And yet, of course, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, in 2016, was forced to step aside after a leak of internal Democratic Party emails showed officials actively favouring Hillary Clinton during the presidential primary and plotting against Clinton's rival Bernie Sanders.
00:22:49.000These plots don't seem particularly democratic, do they?
00:22:52.000What's interesting to me is any peripheral figure, whether they are of the left or of the right, are against Centralised authoritarian agenda.
00:23:02.000Let's have a little look at Debbie Wasserman Schultz in particular talking to Matt Tybee and just note the attitude and manner.
00:23:11.000And after this, of course, we're going to be clicking over to being exclusively on Rumble, where you can watch us freely and without fear of intervention or censorship.
00:23:22.000And we'll be talking a little more about some of the, you know, the fast track vaccine stuff and all sorts of interesting things that we wouldn't talk about on this platform.
00:23:29.000Because of, well, respect for this platform's regulations and because we need to continue to broadcast on the platform.
00:23:35.000Let's have a look at Debbie Wasserman Schultz now.
00:23:38.000Mr. Taibbi, I want to ask about journalistic ethics and information sources.
00:23:42.000The Society of Professional Journalists' Code of Ethics asserts that journalists should avoid political activities that can compromise integrity or credibility.
00:23:49.000Being a Republican witness today certainly casts a cloud over your objectivity.
00:23:55.000Also, what's that condemnation about, like, it's a two-party country, and they're trying to denounce one of the parties in a two-party system.
00:24:04.000You have to be a witness for one of them.
00:24:06.000What have you got to be, an orb of pure consciousness speaking on behalf of the limitless love that underwrites all potential realities?
00:24:13.000Calling now to the stand God, although God, I don't like the way that you're using the English language.
00:24:20.000The deeper concern that I have relates to the ethics of how journalists receive and present certain information.
00:24:26.000Journalists should avoid accepting spoon-fed, cherry-picked information if it's likely to be slanted, incomplete, or designed to reach a foregone, easily disputed, or invalid conclusion.
00:24:43.000You wouldn't agree that a journalist should avoid spoon-fed, cherry-picked information if it's likely to be slanted?
00:24:49.000He's the one that's advocating for more censorship.
00:24:52.000Let's not forget what this hearing is about.
00:24:54.000It's about not allowing Twitter to censor information to prevent us receiving information and discerning for ourselves what we want to believe.
00:25:04.000The Twitter files revealed the depth of Organization, conversation and liaison between government agencies such as the FBI and CIA and social media platforms.
00:25:17.000They're supposed to be the new public spheres to use the parlance or nomenclature that most people use to describe it.
00:25:24.000Also the condescending tone of... Yeah, you can't imagine her speaking to someone from the mainstream media in the same way.
00:25:32.000And the way that they're described also as like so-called journalists by another congressperson.
00:25:37.000You know it's it's it's it's so we're talking down to him and demeaning for someone who's had like such a long career but I mean both of them they're very credible journalists and yeah you can't help but think that this is a war at the same time as being a war on information it's a war on on independent journalism at the same time Absolutely.
00:25:55.000Again, referring to Martin Gurry's book, The Revolt of the Public, there is now the ability to convey counter-narratives.
00:26:04.000That's literally why they're looking for new ways to censor and control emergent social media spaces, because they've already co-opted the mainstream media.
00:26:13.000The mainstream media, who get the majority of their revenue through sponsorship and data capture, are not in a position to communicate openly with the public.
00:26:22.000In the same way that democracy is unable to meaningfully represent and demonstrate the will of ordinary people because of the manner of their funding, because of the efficacy of lobbying, all of these centralised tenets of established power have been co-opted.
00:26:49.000Meanwhile, I just want to run through some of the information that we were conveying when we were appearing on some of these shows.
00:26:54.000This is some stuff that I think is valuable.
00:26:57.000And in fact, if you watch me on Tucker, you'll see that I read it there.
00:27:00.000In fact, maybe like, you know, The continual claim that I oughtn't be appearing on right-wing, allegedly right-wing spaces, I think is undermined by some of the things that I was able to say.
00:27:13.000Can you imagine, let me know in the chat and the comments, if you think I would have been able to say this sort of stuff on CNN or MSNBC.
00:27:20.000This is, when I was on Tucker, I read out a bunch of stats that demonstrate that both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party receive their funding in similar ways, tend to have particular voting patterns and are ultimately operating at
00:27:33.000the behest of a one centralised system. Have a look.
00:27:37.000Hello America. In the world of energy, you know energy, that we require to do stuff,
00:27:43.000to move things about, to warm our homes, at least 100 members of Congress own fossil fuel
00:27:47.000stocks of which 59 are Republicans and 41 are Democrats.
00:27:52.000Oh look, the Republicans are a bit worse.
00:27:54.000Pharma, of the $263 million of the pharmaceutical industry spent on lobbying in 2021, it gave 61% to the Democrat Party and 39% to the Republicans.
00:28:03.000Oh no, the Democrat Party is a bit worse.
00:28:17.000Nearly 20% of Congress members, 49 Democrats and 44 Republicans, have been trading shares of companies in industries they are supposed to be overseeing as part of their committee assignment.
00:28:27.000Each one of these facts indicates a potential solution to the problem that it describes.
00:28:32.000Don't let members of Congress own stocks at all.
00:28:38.000Pharma do not accept lobbying money from the pharmaceutical industry.
00:29:34.000Have a look at this moment on Greg Gutfield, where Greg Gutfield talked about the tumbling IQ of the nation, and it was an opportunity to talk about the research that Gareth and I did.
00:29:47.000Well, Gareth did the research, let me be clear.
00:30:07.000need a new lingua franca, new axioms, a new vernacular, a new way of speaking about this
00:30:13.000stuff because we can't otherwise if we stay in entrenched ossified oppositional camps
00:30:17.000that tension allows centralized authority to continue operating in the way it is.
00:30:22.000And just I think the general atmosphere on this show is pretty friendly.
00:30:27.000I mean, you know, I guess the point of this about IQ and education was potentially to lead us into kind of culture war territory.
00:30:33.000And what you did, or what we did, especially was to drag it out of that and take it into like the fundamentals of poverty and like how Americans are living and how American children are living and being educated.
00:30:45.000And they totally allowed you to do that.
00:31:21.000Is it possible for people that stand on traditional orthodox platforms to stand with people on progressive social justice platforms and agree To have a truce in order to change the world meaningfully.
00:31:32.000Let's have a look at me on Greg Garfield.
00:31:33.000And we both agree that he's using the Garfield logo.
00:32:52.000Now listen, during that pandemic period, billionaires added five trillion to their fortunes.
00:32:56.000That means that during the pandemic, a new billionaire was created every single day, while extreme poverty increased everywhere, while small businesses closed everywhere.
00:33:06.000Now I'm going to say something on Fox News that until recently would not have been possible.
00:33:10.000As President, Donald Trump's tax cuts helped billionaires pay less taxes than the working class in 2018.
00:33:15.000For the first time in American history, the 400 wealthiest people paid a lower tax rate than any other group.
00:33:20.000But check this out, Fox News viewers, because you're going to like this bit.
00:33:23.000In October 2021, Democrats scaled back plans for a crackdown on tax cheating.
00:33:28.000Bowing to an aggressive lobbying campaign by the banking industry, while Joe Biden told rich donors on the campaign trail that nothing would fundamentally change if he were elected president.
00:33:37.000So like some of the great points in your monologue, other than that reference that I was a bit like Rasputin, although he was a pretty crazy sexy guy.
00:33:45.000Yeah, so I think that those are points worth making.
00:33:48.000Although I know the main thing you're looking at is how good your hair looked and beard.
00:33:52.000I'm so happy with my beard on that show.
00:33:54.000Cam, who did my hair and makeup, well done.
00:33:56.000What a great job was done by her there.
00:33:59.000I feel like I'd like to be able to go on Fox News and say that Donald Trump's policies were negative.
00:34:04.000Yeah, look, that's the Garfield logo, by the way, guys.
00:34:06.000I'd like to say that Donald Trump impiccunated or impugned or was negative for ordinary
00:34:13.000working people I think is a pretty positive thing let me know in the chat and the comment and
00:34:16.000also that fact about a billionaire being created not every every day it's actually every 30
00:34:21.000hours so it's a day and a bit it sounds better sounds better
00:35:02.000You couldn't have an identity that I wouldn't love because I recognize that there's a unitary force underneath all reality that is bringing us back together.
00:35:23.000OK, former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Dr. Robert Redfield told Lawmakers Wednesday that Fauci sidelined him from internal debates about the origin of COVID-19 at the start of the pandemic, saying the former White House chief medical adviser did not appreciate Redfield support for the so-called lab leak theory.
00:35:43.000This is a high up member of the CDC, you know.
00:35:46.000If you're not then taking... So we already understood from those documents and those leaked emails that were, you know, heavily redacted, that there was a conversation around the origins at the time and they went with only one of those, which was the most convenient.
00:36:01.000And we know that, but now we're also finding out that people within Insight, so the scientists that we supposedly are meant to follow, did already share these opinions, but obviously weren't allowed to have them.
00:36:12.000So they were saying follow the science, but they themselves were not following the science, they were ignoring and sidelining the science, not just in your country, the United States of America.
00:36:22.000Have a look, though, first, before we get into Chris Whitty, who was saying that he had concerns about vaccines, that vaccinating a population in the middle of a pandemic, particularly when it has a low fatality rate, was not sensible.
00:36:33.000The WhatsApp messages leaked from our former health secretary, Matt Hancock, reveal this.
00:36:39.000So whether it's your country or ours, and I suspect wherever you are in the world, Centralised financial globalist forces were able to conspire, collaborate at very least, in order to get the required outcome.
00:36:51.000And remember, as Karlyn says, you don't need a conspiracy where interests converge.
00:36:55.000This is about nothing other than dominion and economic interests and systemic thinking.
00:37:03.000But I'd love to see this thing where Fauci has a magic lab Yeah, I mean, you know, just to, like, give, I suppose, a little counterbalance to it, like, I still think it might have... they still might have been thinking we ultimately, even though there's all these other opinions, we still think collectively that this is the best way to go.
00:37:20.000The problem with it all is that the conversations aren't allowed to happen.
00:37:25.000People are too stupid to understand it.
00:37:26.000Do you see how often that comes up again and again?
00:37:28.000There's an underlying belief that you're too stupid to discern information for yourself, and I know you don't like that.
00:37:33.000I know that the success of figures like Joe Rogan in this space is because there are conversations that people can listen, people can make mistakes, people make mistakes all the time.
00:38:20.000Like, as if you're working there and you're still trying to cling on to the idea that it's the wild.
00:38:26.000Blaming nature and the wet market rather than, it's clearly come from meddling in bat coronaviruses, isn't it?
00:38:33.000Yeah, I think those scientists tend to be pretty busy.
00:38:36.000I don't think they're like doing science one day and then going off to the jungle for like an Indiana Jones exploration the next, are they?
00:38:44.000It's not Tarzan the ape man, like, working in that lab, now back to the jungle with Cheetah and Jane and stuff.
00:38:50.000You're down that lab, you're working long shifts, that's probably why they're so knackered, spilling back coronaviruses.
00:38:56.000A lot of them had colds at the time, we know that.
00:38:58.000We don't feel very well, we feel weary, we're achy, we're knackered.
00:39:02.000If only there was some immersive, mandated solution to all of this that wouldn't give us any choice as to whether or not we'd take it.
00:39:09.000Got infected, went into a lab, and was being studied in a lab, and then came out of the lab.
00:39:15.000But if that's the definition of a lab leak, Jim, then that still is a natural occurrence.
00:39:42.000Check out these leaks from Matt Hancock's Tech Messages.
00:39:45.000The Chief Medical Officer said, this is Chris Whitty, a Covid vaccine could not be fast-tracked because the virus had a low mortality rate in the early days of the pandemic.
00:39:54.000Okay, so Professor Sir, how many times does this guy have to ask before Matt Hancock will listen to him?
00:40:00.000Professor Sir, Chris Whitty, Professor Sir, my beautiful darling, Chris Whitty, told Matt Hancock and others the disease will mortality rate In the range of 1% would need a very safe vaccine and that the necessary clinical trials would be a rate limiting step.
00:40:17.000Or should we just roar straight ahead with that stuff?
00:40:22.000All the time they were saying follow the science, they were ignoring the scientists.
00:40:26.000Unless those scientists agreed with the broader perspectives that allowed government more ability to regulate and lock down, big pharma more ability to make profit.
00:40:36.000I don't know that that looks so much like a conspiracy theory at this point.
00:40:39.000Let me know in the chat and the comments if you agree.
00:40:42.000Do you think it's time to bring our guest on?
00:40:54.000Professor of Medicine, Economics and Health Research Policy at Stanford University, which, last time I checked, was a hive of conspiracy theorists mostly getting together to talk about, I don't know, the reptilians and stuff like that.
00:41:09.000But the Professor has been critical of lockdowns from the start and says that the Covid dam is beginning to break.
00:41:26.000Although I am a fringe epidemiologist, Russell, I don't know if you know, I was called that by the head of the National Institute of Health because of my ideas to, you know, get kids into school.
00:41:42.000Hey, have you been following the Matt Hancock revelations and if so, can you tell me, do you feel vindicated somewhat by the revelations and could you explain them to our audience, please?
00:41:54.000I have been following them very, very closely.
00:41:55.000I think they're an incredibly important story.
00:41:57.000And, you know, the first thing about them is that, you know, we would never have known but for a journalist who decided that her obligations to the public were more important than anything else.
00:42:11.000And, you know, it kind of reminds me of Julian Assange.
00:42:15.000The revelations themselves, substantively, are so important.
00:42:19.000So for instance, he one of the things that Matt Hancock said in December 2020 was that when the when the variants first started coming up was we need to tell that we need to like slow like tell that let the use the variants to spread fear in the public.
00:42:35.000In fact, that's a theme that runs all through the story.
00:42:40.000Matt Hancock, of course, was the health minister of the UK.
00:42:42.000He was advising Boris Johnson about what to do.
00:42:45.000And the thing he emphasizes over and over again, let's use propaganda to scare the living daylights out of the public.
00:42:56.000I mean, he just openly admits that in these revelations.
00:43:00.000It terrifies me beyond even the details of this story that a part of the modus operandi of government is to terrify people, although it is obvious that centralised power does benefit from a terrified or at least anxious public.
00:43:15.000What else do you think about the revelations, the idea that Chris Whitty's observations were ignored?
00:43:22.000Yeah, so in the early days of the pandemic, it became clear, actually from some studies that I did, and others like John Ioannidis here at Stanford, that the mortality risk was, you know, 0.2%, 99.8% survival with, you know, of course, with older people at very high risk of dying, you know, 3, 4, 5% if they get sick, for children very, very low.
00:43:42.000He made the reasonable observation that you have a low Mortality disease, you really should be doing studies on like high-risk people.
00:43:51.000You shouldn't be fast-tracking it to force everyone to take a vaccine that, you know, in January 2020 we didn't even have.
00:44:02.000The issue is like, why did he get sidelined?
00:44:05.000And part of it is this fear-mongering.
00:44:06.000The idea that we're all equally at risk, even though the data show that really it's older people that were at highest risk from getting sick and dying from this thing.
00:44:15.000In fact, that's the theme that runs through.
00:44:17.000I listed a few things, Russell, if you could give me a couple of seconds.
00:44:20.000One is that like the public, so if you look, the files revealed that Boris Johnson used public opinion instead of science to decide lockdown policy.
00:44:33.000So for instance, the second lockdown, he did because he thought public opinion was important.
00:44:38.000What did he expect after the government spent all this time scaring the living daylights out of the public?
00:44:45.000I mean, it's so irresponsible, and it undermines both the government and public health authorities that went along with this.
00:44:54.000Um, they they remember I told you that's older people that are really highest risk to people in like, you know, care homes for instance.
00:45:03.000Well, Hancock was advised to test care home residents early in the pandemic because that's who's at highest risk and he refused to do it.
00:45:14.000As a result, a lot of older people in the UK died that may have survived the pandemic.
00:45:23.000Boris Johnson essentially admits that the data that led to the second lockdown are wrong.
00:45:27.000You know, remember all those curves that they were projecting?
00:45:30.000Say, oh yeah, if you don't lock down, millions of people will die.
00:45:33.000That was proven false almost immediately.
00:45:39.000Again, the theme is, let's not follow the science.
00:45:41.000Let's have some pre-existing notion about how dangerous the disease is and adopt whatever policies we want, whether it's backed by science or not.
00:45:54.000Nicola Sturgeon, I guess, is the Chief Minister of Scotland, right?
00:46:01.000Nicola Sturgeon, you crackpot fringe academic over there at Stanford University.
00:46:08.000Well, apparently, you all in England were required to mask because the folks in England didn't want to risk an argument with Nicola Sturgeon.
00:46:18.000Not because of any scientific data, just simply to make Nicola Sturgeon happy.
00:46:23.000Kids in the UK, this happened in the US too by the way, I'm not just simply criticizing UK, this is a universal problem.
00:46:30.000Kids in the UK were kept six feet apart from each other, not on the basis of any science at all.
00:46:43.000And then the key thing is that they used media to push this propaganda campaign, to push the fear.
00:46:51.000And all of this comes out in the context of these files.
00:46:55.000These files are like a Rosetta Stone for what went wrong during the pandemic.
00:47:00.000It seems that Fauci is becoming more open to the potential lab leak theory.
00:47:06.000It seems that the narrative is shifting.
00:47:09.000It appears that overall, perhaps what happened is that centralised governmental interests and corporate pharmacological or pharmaceutical interests Converged, and where they arrived at was the most authoritarian and the most profitable solution.
00:47:27.000That needn't mean that there was a conspiracy, just that there was a momentum heading in the direction of those types of outcomes.
00:47:36.000If indeed we can regard science as a subset of corporate interest due to the type of experimentation that takes place and the kind of conclusions that are avoided, In this instance, I might point to natural immunity, vitamin D, and again pushing the vaccines at a point where even Chris Witte says that with that fatality rate and with highly vulnerable people ought to have been prioritised, it doesn't seem like it was a sensible solution.
00:48:05.000What kind of changes need to take place in the governance of the pharmaceutical industry to prevent something like this happening again?
00:48:12.000Because I'm sure you're aware that there are a lot of people that feel that this situation will be used to establish a precedent not only for future pandemics, but for future policy.
00:48:21.000Indeed, the WHO Are lobbying, aren't they, for a pandemic response treaty that would enable them to set the terms of response for every nation on earth in the event of another pandemic?
00:48:32.000What do you think needs to change about the regulation of the science industry or the pharmaceutical industry?
00:48:38.000And what do you believe, Doctor, needs to change about the unelected globalist organisations like the WHO in order that people aren't needlessly subjected to this kind of thing again?
00:48:50.000I mean, you raise a lot of good points, so let me just take a couple of them in order.
00:48:56.000You know, I heard what you said about Fauci and his excuse for the lab leak.
00:49:02.000You know, Fauci and the United States NIH sponsored projects to go into those bat caves to bring the viruses out of the bat caves and then bring them into laboratories.
00:49:15.000So even if he's right, this was the result of a United States-sponsored project that Fauci himself signed off on.
00:49:24.000The whole idea, then, is now to get to your second point about the pharmaceutical interest.
00:49:28.000You know, the whole point of this gain-of-function kind of exercise was to identify viruses in the wild and then make vaccines that can protect against these potential pathogens.
00:49:44.000It's very closely aligned with pharma interests.
00:50:00.000But it's the job of government to make sure that that is done ethically, and it doesn't become this sort of like, you know, create a billionaire a day kind of thing, as you pointed out.
00:50:13.000It needed to be something where there's some adversarial relationship between the government and the pharmaceutical companies.
00:50:21.000I don't think that they're all bad, the pharmaceutical companies, but the government's job is to make sure that the products that they're putting are actually safe, are actually effective.
00:50:30.000And they did not do their job very effectively during the pandemic.
00:50:47.000And as far as the World Health Organization, they failed during this pandemic.
00:50:51.000Russell, 100 million poor people around the world were thrown into dire poverty, less than $2 a day or less in income.
00:51:00.000100 million people were thrown into food insecurity, starving, because of decisions made by the WHO.
00:51:07.000They made decisions essentially that pushed lockdowns that were adopted around the world.
00:51:10.000In Uganda, they closed schools for two years.
00:51:13.000And as a result, you know, four and a half million Ugandan kids never came back to school.
00:51:21.000A lot of them actually were sold into sexual slavery because their parents were so poor that they had no choice.
00:51:27.000The WHO failed the poor people of the world, and they're going around now asking for more power in the context of another pandemic?
00:51:35.000No, there first needs to be deep reforms, and absolutely there needs to be some sort of guarantee that they're going to respect human rights the next time there's a pandemic, because they sure as heck didn't this time.
00:51:46.000I can see why you've been blacklisted by Twitter prior to Elon.
00:51:50.000You're spitting facts all over the place.
00:51:52.000Who knows what viruses could be entangled in the various spores of truth conveyed by you, Doctor.
00:51:59.000Thank you so much for joining us for this show.
00:52:36.000You can follow Dr Bhattacharya on Twitter for his regular updates on COVID, the pandemic and science more broadly.
00:52:43.000I think we can all agree it's a perspective worth having and a reminder that there are valuable voices in the field of science that Or be heard.
00:53:06.000Like, when you think about, like, how them Congress folk are chatting to Matt Taubi and Michael Schellenberg, a legit journalist.
00:53:11.000When you think about how Dr Bhattacharya there, a legit scientist, is being blacklisted and kicked off of Twitter.
00:53:17.000And, like, think about the stuff that gets focused on.
00:53:20.000He's starting to sort of see a bloody trend.
00:53:22.000And their kind of point in that, that we were watching the video earlier, their point is that Ataibi and Schellenberger were cherry-picking the information to kind of suit their narrative and they were also kind of suggesting that Elon Musk did it for them.
00:53:34.000But, I mean, cherry-picking is literally like picking out... I mean... Cherries!
00:53:39.000The Telegraph have done... I love cherries!
00:53:41.000They've gone through, I think it was 40,000 messages of Matt Hancock To reveal the kind of things that have just been revealed.
00:53:50.000About the way in which, first of all, the fact that everyone seemed to communicate via WhatsApp in some kind of chatty forum between like government ministers and health ministers deciding on what should be done during lockdown.
00:54:09.000It sounds ridiculous, but it just shows the kind of cavalier attitude of people who are just making decisions for the rest of the country, not based on science.
00:54:17.000And when they say about cherry picking, it's like, well, that's exactly what the journalists at The Telegraph have done.
00:54:43.000Hey, you know I do stand-up comedy, did you know that?
00:54:45.000Yes, I'm one of the stand-up comics that there is.
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00:55:41.000Crunching up little bat heads with all cum coming down their neck, guzzling it, smoking a fag while squatting, eating a bat all covered.
00:55:46.000It's going to cause a fucking pandemic, isn't it?
00:55:48.000If you're eating a fucking bat, all smothered in cum, bat wing going in your mouth like that, down there, guzzling it down the wet market, all slop and gunk all over the floor, fucking all bat cum dribbling down you.
00:55:58.000It's going to cause a fucking coronavirus pandemic.
00:56:01.000That's where it's fucking come from, them dirty parts down the fucking wet market.
00:56:09.000Well it's just over here the Wuhan Institute of Virology where they're doing gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses!
00:56:21.000Someone give that guy his own show on Rumble streaming daily.
00:56:25.000Someone create a membership community where there's a show called Stay Connected where me and Gareth talk about how we make the show as well as fielding your questions.
00:56:33.000Someone put on a weekly meditation where we directly address what it is you're feeling.
00:56:39.000Is it Not knowing how to combine your spirituality with this oppressive, depressing world that doesn't allow your spirit to flourish and thrive.
00:56:47.000Someone create a live podcast recording that you can attend and ask direct questions to whoever we have on it.
00:56:52.000I told Jordan Peterson, Vandana Shiva, those things already exist.
00:57:49.000Nobody is kissing the in-person kiss goodbye, but chances are nobody has ever kissed you this way through a lip-shaped device that plugs into your phone.
00:58:01.000The idea is to send someone a kiss long distance.
00:58:04.000Sensors transmit pressure, movement, and temperature data that's received by another pair of lips.
00:58:11.000So your kiss is replicated on their lips!
00:58:14.000Similar tech for remote kissing first surfaced less than a decade ago with a kiss... Sting.
00:58:50.000When I see that, I think it's sort of like, for me, it's like a unifying symbol of all of the problems in the world.
00:58:57.000Rampant technology, dehumanization, over-sexualization, nihilism, sort of uncanny loss of our connection to the sublime, all contained in that thing.
00:59:09.000They'll put that on the phone at some point.
00:59:11.000They've already got the top bit of it.
00:59:13.000Go back and watch the last time we did this because the tune was better.
00:59:17.000The last time we did it, it had an amazing noise.
00:59:19.000We should do it for next time because I'll be doing this all the time.
01:00:36.000I mean, if what's at stake... We are talking about world peace, after all.
01:00:39.000I mean, given everything we've said about systemic corruption and the inherent inability of the system to deliver to ordinary people, we cannot actively endorse Trump for president.
01:00:49.000Sure, but why, what about... Send him there now!
01:00:52.000You know when you do like a guest week or something, Maybe in one of Biden's holidays or when he's caught between not being able to say something.
01:01:48.000It's a vibrating orifice made of nothing but purest silicone that's responding to the lips of a Japanese boy far away in another land, kissing me to groundedness.