00:00:20.000While I'm away preparing for an extraordinary test, I have provided content, along with a wonderful team, here for you to enjoy during my absence.
00:00:30.000This series of two-part interviews are absolutely fantastic, and today's conversation the second part of my conversation with TJ talks about how, in a community, you can provide your own food.
00:00:55.000TJ Vizio Day is an entrepreneur and founder of Axe Decentralized Real Estate, a company developing off-grid communities built around land ownership, regenerative farming, and local food production.
00:01:06.000In part one of our conversation, we explored his vision for helping families become more self-sufficient, the biblical principles that underpin his work, and why he believes local communities can offer an alternative to increasingly centralized systems.
00:01:22.000In this conversation, we continue that discussion looking at agriculture, economics, leadership, and what it takes to build resilient communities for the future.
00:01:56.000But the thing that's interesting is that you do have, like in people like Secretary Kennedy and Dr. Oz in the HHS, you have people that are righteous, but they're still, you know, they're surrounded, one assumes, by the kind of locusts and systems of Luciferianism that have always controlled government.
00:02:13.000The thing is that what we are told, and this is where they're going to get into some serious trouble when we start to tool up and arm up and get mobile and march in, is they tell us we live in a democracy.
00:02:24.000So if you tell us we live in a democracy, what you're saying, democracy.
00:02:27.000Democracy is a synecdoche or a synonym for freedom.
00:02:31.000That's what they're saying is you are participants in how America is run.
00:02:48.000They will do anything to mask the fact that they want you eating toxic food, consuming toxic information, breathing toxic air, wearing clothes that are contaminated, for heaven's sake.
00:02:58.000When this is the idea, everyone should do it.
00:03:01.000The only reason you wouldn't do it is if you are independently a billionaire and you don't need anybody else.
00:03:06.000And even then, and what do they spend all their time telling you?
00:03:28.000What needs to happen now, TJ, is to popularize this idea and to Well, you're already piloting the idea, and now you need to stay pure of heart because you said you were going to explain to me what happened to those two people that got shazammed by the Almighty.
00:03:41.000And my assumption is that they were not being pure, they were lying a little bit.
00:03:45.000But that's what, you know, one of the things that someone helped me understand recently with Saul versus David that superficially Saul's disobedience ain't that bad, but his disobedience revealed his true nature.
00:03:56.000And with them two, Sapphire and Anais or whatever they were called, them lot, their actions revealed that you can't have them in a community where people are of good faith.
00:04:06.000So, you and I know you are being very strongly tested, tested more than you know, than most people can stand.0.99
00:04:11.000Like the testing that's required if you're going to be in that position is you can't fuck around.0.99
00:04:20.000And that's where I was like, yeah, it's not a joke.
00:04:22.000That allegory about Ananias and Safari, Sapphira, is not a joke.
00:04:26.000So, in three separate deals, when we were working with the landowners and they were like, they tried to renege in some way, shape, or form.
00:04:34.000So, for example, Little G Ranch, the first property that we did, we'd approached the person and we were like, hey, we'd like to move forward.
00:04:42.000By the way, Most developers, okay, their model is a pretty scumbaggy model.
00:04:50.000So, what they try to do is they look for the three Ds, okay, death, divorce, and displacement.
00:04:54.000So, they'll send out a mailer, okay, this is most developers.
00:04:57.000They'll send out a mailer to an area, okay, maybe this county, right?
00:05:00.000And then they're looking for people who own land that experienced recently a death, a divorce, or displacement.
00:05:06.000And then what they're going to do is because that person experienced the death, divorce, or displacement, they'll say, I'll offer you 40% of the value on your land.
00:05:34.000So, anyways, in three different times that we've done it, when there has been a reneging or like a, you know what, I'm not going to do this or anything like that, like from the actual like landowners or the vendors, They have gotten sick almost instantly and gone to the hospital, had a change of heart, and then come back and been like, never mind, like, here we are, let's keep going.
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00:08:02.000Like, sort of, um, so, um, but don't you feel also, is there a?
00:08:07.000I'm asking you this as a serious question.
00:08:09.000An obligation that we reach out to people that can't participate, you know, the widows, the orphans, like that we sort of go, like we sort of bring them in, I'd say, to toil the fields, potentially without pay.
00:08:40.000It's like, where does music come from for Bach?
00:08:43.000You know, he is just sometimes a thing you're just kind of like, I have no idea.
00:08:46.000It feels like just like this, I can't lay claim to it because even I'll sometimes be surprised by some of the stuff that, like a new idea or a new thing that we're going to do.
00:09:45.000And I know you've gone through different nonsense, different things from other people, and you're still going through it.
00:09:51.000And I know my own version of that same pain of people saying nonsense stuff from me.
00:09:55.000Like, I have to deal with it with the KKK.
00:09:57.000You have to deal with it with all sorts of other stuff.
00:09:59.000And so I'm not going to sit here and listen to you bad mouth the clan.
00:10:03.000My chapter is doing a very difficult job.
00:10:08.000I mean, the sheet, the laundry alone, getting those pillowcases clean.
00:10:14.000Like, what, yeah, so like what I was saying is, That even though I've been spiritual all my life, there's a real difference in coming to Christ.
00:10:21.000And the challenge, the line comes in sort of staying kind of how can I remain in faith that He's got this?
00:10:48.000But I recognize, actually, as a matter of fact, that when I maintain that mindset, it is with a degree of self deception and by listening to the accuser and listening to the names that he would call me.
00:10:59.000And also, sort of rather less nobly than that, or rather less sympathetically than that, a tendency to take credit for the, you know, that I'll tell myself, for example, I really overcame the odds and like I fought and I hustled.
00:11:13.000And, you know, it's only when I look back with new clarity and frankly, humility.
00:11:19.000That I recognize that the whole way I've been sort of carried and placed in opportunities and things have happened and things have come my way, and I've almost without fail used those opportunities for personal pleasure, personal glory, and some sort of reckoning, some sort of change was required.
00:11:37.000And by God, it's been happening, it's been happening.
00:11:40.000But what it's doing to me is it's making me recognize, like, that you know, say something like this, I start to feel like he's for real, I feel like, yeah, TJ's for real, this is good, this is this is good.
00:11:51.000Then I sort of want to think, how can I control it?
00:12:11.000You know, like, I've got to enter into a state of total trust.
00:12:15.000Like, I think he wants nothing less than that.
00:12:17.000And I reckon, this is what I reckon, that there might be a sort of a supernatural component to, well, there is a supernatural component that almost we need to develop a new sort of parabolic, if that's a word, language for, like, that we need to be able to, in the same way as he would have said mustard seed or move mountain, that we might need to say, That there's an inner network accessible for a portal if you know the code.
00:12:41.000If you know the code, the flow of that source will come through you.
00:12:44.000And it exacts such a terrible price and it demands of you such sort of incredible faith.
00:12:49.000And mate, I just got to say, like, that obviously I'm aware that you lost your son and you lost your son a month ago.
00:12:57.000And like, I'm listening to you talk passionately.
00:13:01.000And I see that you are a man on a mission and with a mission and that you're in your mission because to be able to talk articulately about things that are important, like in the Food distribution, like ensuring that you can distribute eggs safely or the quality of these various products.
00:13:16.000But I know that a month ago you lost your boy.
00:13:18.000And like, I, mate, I like, I level you.
00:13:21.000I mean, I'm going through a trial, that's no joke.
00:13:23.000When my son has health issues, and like, so it puts me in environments where the mortality of children is something that I've had to consider.
00:13:32.000My brother Jake there has experienced things along those lines, and at least that's his story for him to tell you.
00:13:37.000And like, I've, you know, when like, Even when my dog died, like sort of six months ago, it put a hole in me that has made me register a level of vulnerability and pain.
00:13:51.000That, in a sense, means that only God, only God now, only God now.
00:13:57.000How have you been affected and how are you still going?
00:14:01.000So, you know, it had already been just a very hard, like one and a half years of just testing on different things.
00:14:12.000Just with getting all these different pieces up and running, it feels sometimes with Axe like everybody's looking in.
00:14:17.000A lot of people are voyeuristic with Axe.
00:14:19.000Like they were just kind of like, you know, like when basically, you know how when Evil Knievel, he's going to go jump something, half the audience wants to see him, you know, actually make it.
00:14:30.000Half the audience is watching, like, let me watch this thing just completely crash and burn because they just have no other feeling about it.
00:14:38.000That's what it feels a lot like with Axe.
00:14:39.000Like, number one response for people is, oh, it's too good to be true.
00:15:01.000It was really funny with what had happened with Colty.
00:15:06.000And I'd actually, like, you know, just two days before that, I'd come back home and I was talking to my wife and I was like, you know, I watched this podcast.
00:15:16.000It was Tony Robbins talking with Alex Somozi.
00:15:19.000And they were kind of determining what he was going to do with his life and stuff.
00:15:22.000And I was thinking about, like, I was just praying on the airplane and I got this idea of, like, Lord, like, I don't want to be the largest landowner or the number one entrepreneur or the richest person or all this stuff.
00:15:35.000You know, I know that Solomon had asked for wisdom, but even that really didn't enough.
00:15:39.000I was like, if my Solomon level wish would be for peace, Lord, I want a peace beyond all understanding, Lord, truly a peace that lasts beyond all understanding.
00:15:49.000Because, you know, at this point, I got my land, I've got my animals, I got my horses, I got my house, I got my kids.
00:15:58.000And I was still not in a place of peace, even while running all these different things with acts, even knowing, okay, I've got a purposeful existence with the stuff I have.
00:16:06.000Most people, they go to a day job and they hate it.
00:16:09.000And it was still just hard not having that sense of peace.
00:16:12.000The way I'm able to reconcile things that happen with Kulti and all of this stuff is that it's kind of a lot like a meditation on the Lord and the peace that comes in and to act from heaven and not from earth.
00:16:28.000Like, I know that you've, Had different things talking about meditation and breath work and stuff like that.
00:16:34.000We're taught in meditation, for example, we'll sit there and you want to focus on your breath, tip of the nose, as the coolness passes the little ridge.
00:16:42.000You might be there and not focus on the other thoughts that might be passing by.
00:18:36.000Sensibly, a lot of people know me for helping them protect their families by being able to buy these homesteads that are as protected as humanly possible.
00:18:42.000You're off, you're off grid, you can set up security systems, you have your own fencing, you have your own all these different things, right?
00:18:51.000And my old son passes away less than 10 minutes after I hugged him in my own driveway by his own babysitter, just bumped in the head.
00:19:17.000You know, I could sit there and the demons inside of me, the negative voices, they want to be, they want to be, this is what they sound like.
00:19:24.000They want to be like, Lord, what do you have on me now?
00:19:27.000Don't tell me about your only begotten son because my only begotten son's now passed away too.
00:19:59.000I know that he sees things in ways that I don't.
00:20:04.000And the irony is, with everything that happened with the cult, the only place that I can be in is go to a place of peace beyond understanding when I know that he's got me.
00:20:14.000The truth is that now that everything that I've done, no matter how purposeful Axe is, no matter how much land I open up, and no matter how many properties, no matter how many people I help out, finally be able to.
00:20:25.000Move off grid and all this, and I will fight.
00:20:29.000It's never going to bring my little quote back.
00:20:32.000But I'm not going to let that be an opportunity to get me to stop, even though I face so many different things that would crush most people.
00:20:41.000Just month to month, our overhead to run this company, month to month is about $200,000 to $250,000 just for payroll.
00:20:50.000You add in the roads, the construction, all this other stuff, it easily gets into.
00:20:56.000Over $500,000 a month just to keep the lights on for this company.
00:21:02.000So if you're off by one day, one week, one message, one thing, one close, someone messes up, someone doesn't do a wire, anything else like that, you might from one week to the next be down $200,000, $500,000 and literally be sitting there.
00:21:18.000And I can sit there and go, Lord, that I'm aware of.
00:21:22.000Nobody else does what I do, does what we do.
00:21:29.000You write in Proverbs that if I acknowledge you in all my ways, you will make my path straight.
00:21:33.000And this is not looking straight right now.
00:21:37.000And I will find that if I just pause and take a breath and just look at it and just consider for a little bit more, then he will help me with that piece.
00:21:48.000So I was going to say, here's kind of the neuroscience of what happens with it day to day.
00:21:53.000We have something, it's something called arousal theory.
00:21:56.000And it's not arousal like sexual arousal, okay?
00:22:21.000And yeah, some of this stuff is to do that.
00:22:24.000And it feels like in running acts, like this long form meditation on the Lord where I'm focused on the mission he has given me.0.60
00:22:33.000And Satan and the enemies and the customers being Israelites will try to push and pull me.0.70
00:22:38.000So you're like sitting there, focusing on your breath, and imagine someone's like tugging you on your arm, tugging you on the next thing, and you're just like, no, I'm going to focus in on this.0.98
00:22:47.000So step one is not allowing myself to get outside of that window that I might have.
00:22:54.000That's part one, knowing I have the principles of the Lord to help me guide back and stay in this.
00:23:12.000Then part B, what I found is if I start acting in this window of hyper arousal, now making really bad decisions.
00:23:21.000Now I'm really getting myself twisted in really a bad place.
00:23:25.000So I found that when I trust in the Lord, whatever it is that brings me back down out of the window of this place of hyper arousal, it's often.
00:23:38.000Like it will be something, some new insight, some new way of thinking.
00:23:42.000Sometimes it will be like, oh, like, especially because I run X, I'll sometimes feel like, oh, like, this is probably how you feel about us, or like, this is how you feel about me.
00:23:53.000Like, if I, for example, have the employees come in and, you know, they're asking for money yet again, you know, for some new project yet again, that's another few, you know, sometimes I feel like if I sneeze, it's another 10 or $100,000 on this stuff.
00:24:06.000And I'll be like, dude, like, you didn't come in, you weren't grateful, you weren't, you didn't explain out for, you just came in asking for money on this thing.
00:24:48.000They're going to want to just go back to Babylon.
00:24:51.000This is just going out into a void and forget absolutely all this stuff, just all of this.
00:24:57.000After what's happened with Colt, you see, I remember talking to my wife and I was like, babe, you know, I think about separating out the good thoughts and the bad thoughts.
00:25:09.000And it's very clear to me now that if I wouldn't say that to you, or if I know for a fact you wouldn't say that to me about Colty's death, I know.
00:25:44.000And I've noticed that when I look at the voice that allows me to continue on.
00:25:50.000With my fast, and I'm the third day into a fast, and it's just like, dude, just go get that Twinkie right now, or go get that cookie right now.
00:25:59.000You can go have that cookie, or you can go.
00:26:01.000And I know it's a thing that's taking me out of it.
00:26:04.000I know, oh, that's the false voice versus the one that actually allows me to stay in that.
00:26:09.000It's the same one that, yeah, after everything passed with a cult, dude, of course I want to sit around and just eat tubs of ice cream and just be like, F the free world and forget all of this stuff.
00:26:57.000You know, from that voice, it told me, you know, part of the reason that I'm having you, you know, do these weights is because it shows your grief and it represents your grief.
00:27:06.000But think about this you have put this weight on you and you are walking through the neighborhood.
00:27:14.000But what happens now that you take off this weight and as this weight comes off, you're going to be stronger.
00:27:21.000And so you're going to be able to walk and do things that other people can't do because you put on that weight.
00:27:27.000And in the same way, I sometimes see it as with Colts passing, it's deep grief.
00:27:33.000It's like, I would say it's way heavier than that 100 pound backpack that I use as I go through day to day stuff, you know?
00:27:40.000But I also know that as the grief kind of goes down, it also allows me to be stronger when I talk to other people, when I talk to people about their suffering and understand a little bit more about the stuff that they go through and that we all go through with all of this stuff and to not lose hope.
00:27:54.000And my hope with all of this, what I see it as is, you know, Coulty was a little angel, but I know that that was his time and I'm lucky enough to have had him.
00:28:06.000And I'm so happy to have had the times I had with him.
00:28:09.000That boy, In under two years, lived a greater life than so many people get to live for however long they might end up living through everything.
00:28:20.000And with the lessons he taught me and the grief that I feel, yeah, we're going to go to the next level.
00:28:26.000We're going to have new things and it's going to help out millions of people, not just thousands.
00:28:31.000I see this as millions of people and I'm just, there's not going to be any quit from any of this stuff.
00:28:37.000So, sorry, that was a little long winded, but it's just how I kind of feel about all this stuff.
00:30:25.000Like I will say one thing that I have joy about.
00:30:29.000And that is that I'm only 32 years old and I get to see with clarity something that people may live to 95 years old and never be able to understand.
00:30:41.000See, I now get to say, okay, I know what it's like to have a multi million dollar company.
00:30:47.000I know what it's like to have the land and I know what it's like to have the horses and all this other stuff, right?
00:30:52.000And now after Colty, I understand wait a minute, what I cherish more than anything are the tiny, Little moments that I had with him.
00:31:01.000It would be when he's eating yogurt and he had just yogurt around his face, or I would be working in the office and he'd just like pop into the office, dada.
00:31:11.000Or I'd be hanging out in the bathtub and I'd be really pissed off.
00:31:14.000Some customer said something that was just out of line and I'm just sitting there and I'm taking a bath and I'd be like, nobody come in, like nobody, just nobody.
00:32:25.000If I would trade all that just to have a little moment like that, now I can go through life for the rest of my life knowing to just look at those tiny little moments and to truly savor them, to deeply, deeply savor them.
00:32:39.000And ironically, it answers that prayer for what I'd asked for, for a peace that goes beyond all understanding.
00:32:45.000As I just go and I enjoy small little things, I get to see the little dog that might pee and, you know, maybe, you know, looking at water and just a small little moment of like, is that pee or is that water over there?
00:32:59.000Savoring that and just like registering that and knowing like, that's a taste of heaven right over there.
00:33:16.000One time, this person told me this thing.
00:33:18.000You might get to see me strangle that dog, actually, and that'll be a heavenly moment for us all.
00:33:23.000One time, this man said, You know, I could want, but prior in one of the earlier incarnations of my life, I was with a certain management group.
00:33:32.000And when that all broke apart, you know, as always happens to people in my position, ripped off for a bunch of money, all that stuff.
00:33:39.000And I was telling it to someone who'd been in a similar position, who'd worked in music.
00:33:47.000And the gangster guy said to him, like, oh, they, you know, them very people that ripped you off for the money, they gave you the opportunity to make the money in the first place, right?
00:33:56.000He goes, so at the beginning, if when they'd said to you, hey, we're going to give you this opportunity, but down the line, we're going to rip you off, you'd have taken that deal, right?
00:34:03.000And he's like, yeah, I would have taken that deal.
00:34:04.000He goes, some of us, son, we ain't, some people, they are willing to go flip burgers.
00:34:11.000If you want to play at the table where people flip burgers, no one's going to rip you off if you play at that table.
00:34:19.000Now, with your analogy of the economies of fiat versus gold versus land versus true spirit, and like Emmett Fox says, you know, that a human soul, you trade an empire for a human soul because an empire is temporal.
00:34:36.000It's in the narrow bandwidth of the temporal material reality.
00:34:39.000With the human soul, you're dealing in eternity.
00:34:42.000It's almost inconceivable for a human being.
00:34:44.000And indeed, the only currency that's going to work for you is the piece that Parfit.
00:34:48.000Pass off all understanding because now the only currency, and I mean currency in both of the forms, i.e., an electric charge, a power, a power that can run through us, the only one that's going to work now is like that.
00:34:59.000All of those things are foreclosed for you.
00:35:01.000Not that you won't know joys, of course, but you will never again be free of that.
00:35:24.000But we are, I believe, being collectively and individually schooled for something that's important.
00:35:31.000And the people that are going to participate in this, like it says in Romans, that bit, the groaning pains of the earth is groaning like a woman in childbirth for the revelation of the children of Christ that are going to be co heirs with him.
00:35:45.000Greater things than these shall we do.
00:35:47.000Like, you're not going to, like, no one's going to do that if you have the options.
00:35:51.000I would like to see before when we were talking about me coming to the Lord, and I had a spiritual life.
00:35:56.000Before and I had power and I had charisma.
00:35:58.000And very early on, I recognized that I was on a kind of what I might call a sort of shamanic path.
00:36:03.000Like I knew that some, like their flow comes in me.
00:36:06.000I followed your career, by the way, just so you know, I followed your career from like, I actually read my bookie wook when I was 13 years old.
00:36:34.000So I know of some of the time periods of what you're talking about.
00:36:38.000So it's been pretty interesting to see the different versions and iterations and paths of growth and spiritual things that you're talking about.
00:36:44.000He says, Jeremiah, that the living water, we are participants in the living water, but don't make cisterns.
00:36:52.000Don't hold on to it the same as the Exodus story or the Genesis story earlier of holding on to it.
00:37:11.000He, even though sharing the qualities of God, did not see equality with God as something to be sought.
00:37:17.000Two, I feel like, so the mistake and the error I made is like I was aware of giftedness, but the giftedness I thought was for me to get stuff.
00:38:05.000And I don't know what pottery was like 2,000 years ago or whenever Isaiah was written or whenever Paul was back referencing it as he later did.
00:38:12.000But I do note that when the clay is formed, whether it's into a vase or an ashtray or a mug or a cup or whatever, that the thing that it's being the potter's wheel spins, you're spinning at a high frequency, a high frequency when you're being molded.
00:38:27.000And when we were talking about meditative states before, that some of us, and my prayer is that as many of us as needed will experience whatever it is, even though it is so, so.
00:38:53.000If we're down here in the gross, the material, what the Ayurvedic folks call the Kali Yuga, where everything is heavy and matter and body, like down here, I think I've sort of given it a good go and tried out what are the things that might work.
00:39:37.000And so, number one, it's funny that you mentioned the clay analogy because that's also like what Adam was made out of.
00:39:42.000He's made out of clay, he's molded from dirt and from clay.
00:39:45.000Like, that's what it even is from the first place.
00:39:47.000But then, similar to that, another analogy is.
00:39:53.000Besides clay, it's also that God refines us.
00:39:58.000And so when you see what it takes to refine silver and to refine gold and refine precious metals, like you have to superheat it and you have these impurities that bubble up to the top.
00:40:08.000And so sometimes you might feel like, my goodness, like these impurities, like, oh gosh, this is terrible.
00:40:13.000But these impurities, they come up to the top out of ourselves and then they can be scooped up.
00:40:18.000Like we live in this crucible in this world.
00:40:20.000And sometimes I flip back and forth, I'll be thinking about different things about, like, my goodness, like, what.
00:40:27.000You know, I to kind of tie a lot of these pieces of what you just said about this material reality, and from what I know with Acts, right?
00:40:37.000I don't want anybody to watch this podcast and think that what I'm saying is that because the goal of that, like the goal of what we're doing is to build heaven on earth.
00:40:53.000I want to be the construction company that builds heaven on earth.
00:40:56.000And I want to inspire other construction companies to be like, you know what, forget this, forget apartment complexes and multi family apartment construction.
00:41:07.000I don't want anybody to confuse that with me saying some type of like, oh, like because you bought Axe, like that's some replacement for Christ.
00:41:13.000What I've kind of come to in my understanding with Axe and how I see this is rather than thinking that like buying an Axe property, owning your own land with your own animals and all of this stuff that people dream of, rather than thinking of it as like that's the end goal, actually, What I found is that having the homestead and having this stuff is it actually molds you towards it in a really powerful way.
00:41:37.000So, the easiest way I can compare it is marriage, right?
00:41:40.000So, like, if you approach a marriage like, oh, when I get married to this person, all my problems are gone.
00:41:47.000And it's just like, we're all good now.
00:42:13.000What I believe, and there is scripture to back this up, so it's not just like me just taking stuff out of context, is that the actual practice of stewardship itself, stewarding stuff to prosperity, it is, in addition to the Bible, it shows you many of the mysteries of life.
00:42:32.000Like, how interesting is it that when we go to Genesis 1, like, what are those first words that God said to man and woman?
00:43:11.000Be fruitful and increase the number, fill the earth and subdue it, rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground, right?
00:43:25.000I've been really kind of thinking about this idea that, like, the reason he did that isn't just because that's your purpose.
00:43:31.000He's also saying, when you do that, it's going to all explain itself.0.98
00:43:35.000Like, when you take on the joy of, like, managing these livestock, which, by the way, for example, like, managing Wagyu, Wagyu are very dumb.0.96
00:43:42.000They, They will trample over any electric.0.94
00:43:47.000They don't care about getting zapped out.
00:44:00.000Like, is this what it's like for us, Lord?
00:44:03.000Like, you know, is this what it's like when you see all these different things and you realize all the things you have to manage and you have to get into this place?
00:44:10.000So I kind of talk to people about rather than thinking of these family compounds, because a lot of people, they'll be like, that's my dream.
00:46:01.000Or what do I have to do to spiders if I had a spider web weaving program and I was like, I'll teach you how to weave a web in seven days for the spider to be like, I can't do that.
00:46:11.000That's what people sound like to me when they're like, oh, this is impossible.
00:46:44.000Yeah, sometimes it's not going to feel worth it.
00:46:46.000But then, on the whole, when you look at all the memories generated, it's amazing.
00:46:52.000When I think about the times I got to spend with Colt walking out there, when I think about the times that I've had a big, Huge argument with my wife, and I'm like, forget this stuff.
00:47:02.000And I go out and I just walk on the land, and I just get to just sit there, look at the flowers, and look at the sunset.
00:47:10.000The times that my daughters get to go and look at the flowers and just enjoy and pick the little flowers and stuff like that, like how worthwhile that is.
00:47:19.000You know, even his burial, like how amazing that is.
00:47:23.000Like it's a privilege that I get to have it.
00:47:48.000In your book, you relate the AA 12 steps program to what it might be like in having a relationship with Christ and coming to know the Lord.
00:48:26.000Like, I think a lot of men need to learn what it feels like once again to feel like, oh, yeah, I'm actually protecting my woman, protecting my children.
00:48:33.000It feels really good to not provide by just making money, but to provide by saying, like, no, this is actually food that I grew for you, and you get to enjoy it.
00:48:45.000In running acts, I thought that if we just got things right, this was my stupidity.
00:48:52.000If I just get it right, if I somehow, if I finally just have like one of the houses built out where people can see it, like, and we have the houses built out, but oh, if they can just see it, they'll finally get it.
00:49:02.000And I realized, like, oh, it doesn't really work that way.
00:49:18.000Our society has a deep, deep seated addiction to the comfort zone.
00:49:26.000The Illuminati do not need a massive prison program, they just need five minute cities and to make them really, really convenient for people.
00:49:35.000Before I'd started ACTS in college, I was tasked with writing a five page paper about any topic.
00:49:41.000I decided to write it about Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
00:49:43.000Ended up writing 75 pages about Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
00:49:47.000And what I wrote about in that paper was that if you look at the needs, they are we have a need for just basics, right?
00:49:55.000Food, water, shelter, then security, then relationships, then our self esteem, then actualization.
00:50:02.000What is given to us by society are simulacra of what is necessary in every single one of those levels.
00:50:09.000So for food, rather than real food, we're given artificial food.
00:50:12.000And then subconsciously, we're like, I don't understand what's off about this.
00:50:19.000And then when it comes to security, we get our security from our wage slave jobs, where we have security from big corporate who pays us this meaningless thing that we don't actually want to do.
00:50:32.000And then in our relationships, we are given by society social media.
00:50:39.000You know, I was going to bring up with you there's a very interesting study on the relationship between addiction, specifically to heroin, for example, and relationships in society.1.00
00:50:50.000There's a whole thing called Rat Park.
00:50:52.000Basically, rats given the opportunity to choose the different addictive substances or just interact with the other rats.
00:51:00.000When isolated and alone, they will choose the heroin every single time.
00:51:03.000But when put in rat park with other rats to go enjoy, they're not going to do the same thing.
00:51:08.000When we are isolated and given this simulacra, this fake food that pretends to be otherwise, and these fake sense of security from our fake jobs with a fake meaning that goes absolutely nowhere, and fake relationships with social media, and then we destroy our self esteem by telling men to not be men and to tell women to not be women, and then we destroy all actualization by making it so that the most creative people are only focused on what?
00:51:36.000That's all we're ever doing with our time and our intelligence, just chasing more and more and more mammon.
00:51:42.000Then what happens is we prevent ourselves from actually taking the necessary actions to actually learn resourcefulness and learn to stand up on our own two feet.
00:51:54.000But I believe strongly, and I did back then when I wrote that paper, and then I thought through what that would look like.
00:52:08.000He never meant for us to be little, tiny, pathetic, powerless, little slaves that whine and complain about every single thing.0.92
00:52:16.000He meant for us to grow in Him and rely on Him every step of the way and to learn it.0.71
00:52:22.000And we have an opportunity, if we actually do it, to speak of one mind, of one language by the Holy Spirit that resides in us, the same Spirit that rose Jesus from the dead.
00:52:33.000And we have the ability to create a new Eden.
00:52:37.000Where by working together, we can go out, we can acquire the best land in the world that would otherwise get snatched up by these elites and these investment funds who absolutely hate us.
00:52:48.000And we can turn those lands into a wonderful opportunity to grind against difficulty as we learn to settle issues with each other and we learn to set up these resources with each other and we start taking back our basic needs first.
00:53:03.000We have our own food and our own water and our own good clean air and our own sunlight and our own grasses.
00:53:12.000And then we take care of our security needs and we take care of each other with our own cryptocurrency system, our own way of bartering and trading with each other.
00:53:20.000And we form real relationships, not these fake relationships, but real ones where community is not just a digital experience, but a real, felt, physical experience with a real, physical hug.
00:53:34.000We could have had this conversation over Zoom, but it's more intense and real when it's here and in person.
00:53:39.000And when you do that, whether you're a man or a woman, It feels good and it restores our esteem needs.
00:53:46.000When we're, when as a man, when you go, man, I don't know anything about taking care of a cow, like this is embarrassing, to like, I know how to take care of a cow, that feels good.
00:53:56.000And when you're like, I don't know how to shoot a gun, and then you're like, I know how to shoot a gun, it feels really good.
00:54:03.000And when you give your children food, it's like, my goodness, this is amazing.
00:55:44.000When we enter into that realm, rather than by doing it by way of gathering materials, but instead we take the elevator past the original levels of Maslow's hierarchy, instead have the Spirit take us to another level where we're focused on that letting go so that we can focus on the Lord as a source of provision.
00:56:05.000Begin to build the real heaven on earth.
00:56:08.000So it's not about the physical, it's about the spiritual and the mental and the place that we could be in.
00:56:13.000It's the place that we can be in in these relationships.
00:56:16.000And that's the world that I want to live in, at least for now, until I'm eventually rejoining my son and I'm able to hang out with him and I'm able to just frolic and joy in that timeless state with him.