Stay Free - Russel Brand - What the Globalists Hate More Than Anything… - SF739

00:00:19.000 Hello, there you awakening wonders.

00:00:20.000 While I'm away preparing for an extraordinary test, I have provided content, along with a wonderful team, here for you to enjoy during my absence.

00:00:30.000 This series of two-part interviews are absolutely fantastic, and today's conversation the second part of my conversation with TJ talks about how, in a community, you can provide your own food.

00:00:41.000 You can provide everything.

00:00:43.000 How well is the culture working for you now at this point?

00:00:46.000 How often do you want to be in a mall or a multiplex, or driving along or stuck in traffic?

00:00:50.000 Wouldn't you secretly like to get out of this nightmare and into the garden?

00:00:54.000 Here's the route out.

00:00:55.000 TJ Vizio Day is an entrepreneur and founder of Axe Decentralized Real Estate, a company developing off-grid communities built around land ownership, regenerative farming, and local food production.

00:01:06.000 In part one of our conversation, we explored his vision for helping families become more self-sufficient, the biblical principles that underpin his work, and why he believes local communities can offer an alternative to increasingly centralized systems.

00:01:22.000 In this conversation, we continue that discussion looking at agriculture, economics, leadership, and what it takes to build resilient communities for the future.

00:01:33.000 Back to the interview.

00:01:37.000 The thing is now is that they can't argue anymore.

00:01:39.000 No one can argue that it's better to not eat food that's grown and reared where it was grown.

00:01:46.000 But their ideas they're trying to sell are things like universal basic income and like meta universes.

00:01:52.000 They're lying.

00:01:54.000 It's lying now.

00:01:55.000 And it's plain.

00:01:56.000 But the thing that's interesting is that you do have, like in people like Secretary Kennedy and Dr. Oz in the HHS, you have people that are righteous, but they're still, you know, they're surrounded, one assumes, by the kind of locusts and systems of Luciferianism that have always controlled government.

00:02:13.000 The thing is that what we are told, and this is where they're going to get into some serious trouble when we start to tool up and arm up and get mobile and march in, is they tell us we live in a democracy.

00:02:24.000 So if you tell us we live in a democracy, what you're saying, democracy.

00:02:27.000 Democracy is a synecdoche or a synonym for freedom.

00:02:31.000 That's what they're saying is you are participants in how America is run.

00:02:35.000 Okay, then.

00:02:35.000 So then you won't have a problem if we say we're out.

00:02:39.000 We're opting out.

00:02:40.000 Oh, you know, you can't because you use our facilities and our resources.

00:02:43.000 No, we won't be using your facilities and resources. 0.62

00:02:45.000 We're going to intertrade.

00:02:46.000 We're going to grow them. 0.92

00:02:46.000 You're dependent on our defense. 0.92

00:02:48.000 They will do anything to mask the fact that they want you eating toxic food, consuming toxic information, breathing toxic air, wearing clothes that are contaminated, for heaven's sake.

00:02:58.000 When this is the idea, everyone should do it.

00:03:01.000 The only reason you wouldn't do it is if you are independently a billionaire and you don't need anybody else.

00:03:06.000 And even then, and what do they spend all their time telling you?

00:03:09.000 We're philanthropists.

00:03:10.000 We've got the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to help people.

00:03:13.000 Okay, well, help us by letting us have that land that you've just acquired.

00:03:18.000 If your motive is truly philanthropy and not hiding your money and hiding your taxes and maintaining your position.

00:03:26.000 So you're right.

00:03:28.000 What needs to happen now, TJ, is to popularize this idea and to Well, you're already piloting the idea, and now you need to stay pure of heart because you said you were going to explain to me what happened to those two people that got shazammed by the Almighty.

00:03:41.000 And my assumption is that they were not being pure, they were lying a little bit.

00:03:45.000 But that's what, you know, one of the things that someone helped me understand recently with Saul versus David that superficially Saul's disobedience ain't that bad, but his disobedience revealed his true nature.

00:03:56.000 And with them two, Sapphire and Anais or whatever they were called, them lot, their actions revealed that you can't have them in a community where people are of good faith.

00:04:06.000 So, you and I know you are being very strongly tested, tested more than you know, than most people can stand. 0.99

00:04:11.000 Like the testing that's required if you're going to be in that position is you can't fuck around. 0.99

00:04:17.000 You've got to be totally pure. 0.99

00:04:19.000 You have to.

00:04:20.000 And that's where I was like, yeah, it's not a joke.

00:04:22.000 That allegory about Ananias and Safari, Sapphira, is not a joke.

00:04:26.000 So, in three separate deals, when we were working with the landowners and they were like, they tried to renege in some way, shape, or form.

00:04:34.000 So, for example, Little G Ranch, the first property that we did, we'd approached the person and we were like, hey, we'd like to move forward.

00:04:42.000 By the way, Most developers, okay, their model is a pretty scumbaggy model.

00:04:47.000 Like, yeah, it's pretty awful.

00:04:49.000 Like, I'm not kidding around. 0.99

00:04:50.000 So, what they try to do is they look for the three Ds, okay, death, divorce, and displacement.

00:04:54.000 So, they'll send out a mailer, okay, this is most developers.

00:04:57.000 They'll send out a mailer to an area, okay, maybe this county, right?

00:05:00.000 And then they're looking for people who own land that experienced recently a death, a divorce, or displacement.

00:05:06.000 And then what they're going to do is because that person experienced the death, divorce, or displacement, they'll say, I'll offer you 40% of the value on your land.

00:05:14.000 You're all suffering.

00:05:15.000 There's opportunity here.

00:05:16.000 Exactly.

00:05:17.000 And so I'll buy, and they'll justify, oh, well, they're hurting.

00:05:19.000 So it's 40%.

00:05:21.000 It's not that bad.

00:05:22.000 We don't do that.

00:05:22.000 We go to people.

00:05:23.000 We say, if you say it's $10 million, we go, okay, $10 million.

00:05:29.000 We're happy to go and buy the product.

00:05:30.000 We're not going to lowball you.

00:05:32.000 We never once lowballed anyone.

00:05:34.000 So, anyways, in three different times that we've done it, when there has been a reneging or like a, you know what, I'm not going to do this or anything like that, like from the actual like landowners or the vendors, They have gotten sick almost instantly and gone to the hospital, had a change of heart, and then come back and been like, never mind, like, here we are, let's keep going.

00:05:55.000 The Almighty is on the team.

00:05:57.000 I mean, like, first time, what a neat quit, like, you know, not like, just like, wow, like, that was, you know, that's kind of specific.

00:06:05.000 Then the second time, it's like, okay, wait a minute.

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00:07:26.000 Do you think there's an obligation?

00:07:27.000 Say, if we're going to do one together, pending.

00:07:31.000 Obviously, I've got a trial in October, but there's a lot of things to get through.

00:07:35.000 I could show you how to do it.

00:07:36.000 We could make one here on the podcast.

00:07:37.000 I'm serious.

00:07:38.000 I want to make one.

00:07:39.000 I want to film the process.

00:07:40.000 I want to make the process of making one a show.

00:07:44.000 Do you feel that we've got an obligation?

00:07:45.000 Because you'd be saying, like, participants, you know, what can you bring?

00:07:49.000 You know, everyone's going to have to act style, put their stuff in common.

00:07:51.000 Yes.

00:07:52.000 And I've got quite a lot of requirements, actually.

00:07:54.000 For example, I'm basically a hermit.

00:07:55.000 I need to be alone a lot of the Time, I need to pray.

00:07:58.000 Most of our people, right?

00:07:59.000 Right, that's what people want. 0.93

00:08:00.000 My wife hates the idea, anyway.

00:08:02.000 Like, sort of, um, so, um, but don't you feel also, is there a?

00:08:07.000 I'm asking you this as a serious question.

00:08:09.000 An obligation that we reach out to people that can't participate, you know, the widows, the orphans, like that we sort of go, like we sort of bring them in, I'd say, to toil the fields, potentially without pay.

00:08:20.000 No, no, no.

00:08:22.000 I get what you're saying.

00:08:23.000 I get exactly what you're saying.

00:08:24.000 That's actually been an intimate part of my vision with all this.

00:08:28.000 And it's, you know, I see my vision, but it's really the vision.

00:08:31.000 It's not even mine.

00:08:32.000 Like, all this stuff, you know, I don't lay any claim to it.

00:08:37.000 It's literally like.

00:08:39.000 It's like God's vision.

00:08:40.000 It's like, where does music come from for Bach?

00:08:43.000 You know, he is just sometimes a thing you're just kind of like, I have no idea.

00:08:46.000 It feels like just like this, I can't lay claim to it because even I'll sometimes be surprised by some of the stuff that, like a new idea or a new thing that we're going to do.

00:08:54.000 Yeah, where does it come from?

00:08:55.000 Where does it come from?

00:08:56.000 I know that a lot of Jake's music comes from collaborating with any Christian musician that he ever sees anywhere.

00:09:01.000 He just approaches them.

00:09:03.000 Yeah, like, yeah, you sort of, indeed, we have to sort of sit, like, in a way, our faith is tested.

00:09:09.000 How my faith is getting tested.

00:09:11.000 Yeah.

00:09:11.000 It's weird, right?

00:09:12.000 Because obviously I've been.

00:09:13.000 Please tell me, tell me.

00:09:13.000 I actually legitimately want to hear it.

00:09:15.000 I'm super excited.

00:09:15.000 Yeah.

00:09:16.000 I mean, if you're like, imagine if I'm actually not interested.

00:09:19.000 I've given you some bacon. 1.00

00:09:20.000 Shut your fucking mouth. 1.00

00:09:23.000 Eat a sandwich. 1.00

00:09:24.000 It's actually just cool to see how we each are called to bear our cross.

00:09:29.000 And it's interesting to see the different examples of suffering that we have.

00:09:32.000 And a lot of people, I'm sure a lot of people would be like, dude, I can't wait to just switch places with Russell Brand.

00:09:38.000 Like, I can't wait to, like, all this.

00:09:39.000 And it's like, no, dude, like, there's stuff that happens that's hard stuff.

00:09:43.000 You know, an easy ride.

00:09:45.000 And I know you've gone through different nonsense, different things from other people, and you're still going through it.

00:09:51.000 And I know my own version of that same pain of people saying nonsense stuff from me.

00:09:55.000 Like, I have to deal with it with the KKK.

00:09:57.000 You have to deal with it with all sorts of other stuff.

00:09:59.000 And so I'm not going to sit here and listen to you bad mouth the clan.

00:10:03.000 My chapter is doing a very difficult job.

00:10:08.000 I mean, the sheet, the laundry alone, getting those pillowcases clean.

00:10:14.000 Like, what, yeah, so like what I was saying is, That even though I've been spiritual all my life, there's a real difference in coming to Christ.

00:10:21.000 And the challenge, the line comes in sort of staying kind of how can I remain in faith that He's got this?

00:10:30.000 Like in trust.

00:10:31.000 Talk to me about it.

00:10:32.000 Like how that presents itself to me is I keep thinking that I need to be in charge again.

00:10:37.000 I keep thinking I need to take control.

00:10:39.000 This won't happen.

00:10:40.000 It's going to mess up.

00:10:41.000 I'm going to get destroyed.

00:10:42.000 I, you know, I experience sort of quite a lot of fear.

00:10:47.000 But what I can.

00:10:48.000 But I recognize, actually, as a matter of fact, that when I maintain that mindset, it is with a degree of self deception and by listening to the accuser and listening to the names that he would call me.

00:10:59.000 And also, sort of rather less nobly than that, or rather less sympathetically than that, a tendency to take credit for the, you know, that I'll tell myself, for example, I really overcame the odds and like I fought and I hustled.

00:11:13.000 And, you know, it's only when I look back with new clarity and frankly, humility.

00:11:19.000 That I recognize that the whole way I've been sort of carried and placed in opportunities and things have happened and things have come my way, and I've almost without fail used those opportunities for personal pleasure, personal glory, and some sort of reckoning, some sort of change was required.

00:11:37.000 And by God, it's been happening, it's been happening.

00:11:40.000 But what it's doing to me is it's making me recognize, like, that you know, say something like this, I start to feel like he's for real, I feel like, yeah, TJ's for real, this is good, this is this is good.

00:11:51.000 Then I sort of want to think, how can I control it?

00:11:55.000 That's basically what I feel like.

00:11:56.000 How can I control it?

00:11:57.000 How do I make it happen in a way I want?

00:12:00.000 And like almost, I feel that whenever I meet kind of good people, like, no, he's mine, get off.

00:12:05.000 You know, like, sort of like, oh, I'm in charge of that.

00:12:08.000 You know, but really, it's tiring.

00:12:10.000 It's too tiring.

00:12:11.000 You know, like, I've got to enter into a state of total trust.

00:12:15.000 Like, I think he wants nothing less than that.

00:12:17.000 And I reckon, this is what I reckon, that there might be a sort of a supernatural component to, well, there is a supernatural component that almost we need to develop a new sort of parabolic, if that's a word, language for, like, that we need to be able to, in the same way as he would have said mustard seed or move mountain, that we might need to say, That there's an inner network accessible for a portal if you know the code.

00:12:41.000 If you know the code, the flow of that source will come through you.

00:12:44.000 And it exacts such a terrible price and it demands of you such sort of incredible faith.

00:12:49.000 And mate, I just got to say, like, that obviously I'm aware that you lost your son and you lost your son a month ago.

00:12:57.000 And like, I'm listening to you talk passionately.

00:13:01.000 And I see that you are a man on a mission and with a mission and that you're in your mission because to be able to talk articulately about things that are important, like in the Food distribution, like ensuring that you can distribute eggs safely or the quality of these various products.

00:13:16.000 But I know that a month ago you lost your boy.

00:13:18.000 And like, I, mate, I like, I level you.

00:13:21.000 I mean, I'm going through a trial, that's no joke.

00:13:23.000 When my son has health issues, and like, so it puts me in environments where the mortality of children is something that I've had to consider.

00:13:32.000 My brother Jake there has experienced things along those lines, and at least that's his story for him to tell you.

00:13:37.000 And like, I've, you know, when like, Even when my dog died, like sort of six months ago, it put a hole in me that has made me register a level of vulnerability and pain.

00:13:51.000 That, in a sense, means that only God, only God now, only God now.

00:13:57.000 How have you been affected and how are you still going?

00:14:01.000 Yeah.

00:14:01.000 So, you know, it had already been just a very hard, like one and a half years of just testing on different things.

00:14:12.000 Just with getting all these different pieces up and running, it feels sometimes with Axe like everybody's looking in.

00:14:17.000 A lot of people are voyeuristic with Axe.

00:14:19.000 Like they were just kind of like, you know, like when basically, you know how when Evil Knievel, he's going to go jump something, half the audience wants to see him, you know, actually make it.

00:14:30.000 Half the audience is watching, like, let me watch this thing just completely crash and burn because they just have no other feeling about it.

00:14:38.000 That's what it feels a lot like with Axe.

00:14:39.000 Like, number one response for people is, oh, it's too good to be true.

00:14:42.000 It's too good to be true.

00:14:43.000 It must not be real.

00:14:44.000 It must be some type of scam.

00:14:45.000 It can't possibly be real.

00:14:47.000 Then we came out with the actual ranchers.

00:14:49.000 Then we had the animals.

00:14:50.000 Then we had the actual food products.

00:14:51.000 Then the question was, like, well, when are you going to build a house?

00:14:54.000 And then it was like, okay, now we finally built a house.

00:14:57.000 Oh, still not with all this stuff.

00:15:01.000 It was really funny with what had happened with Colty.

00:15:06.000 And I'd actually, like, you know, just two days before that, I'd come back home and I was talking to my wife and I was like, you know, I watched this podcast.

00:15:16.000 It was Tony Robbins talking with Alex Somozi.

00:15:19.000 And they were kind of determining what he was going to do with his life and stuff.

00:15:22.000 And I was thinking about, like, I was just praying on the airplane and I got this idea of, like, Lord, like, I don't want to be the largest landowner or the number one entrepreneur or the richest person or all this stuff.

00:15:35.000 You know, I know that Solomon had asked for wisdom, but even that really didn't enough.

00:15:39.000 I was like, if my Solomon level wish would be for peace, Lord, I want a peace beyond all understanding, Lord, truly a peace that lasts beyond all understanding.

00:15:49.000 Because, you know, at this point, I got my land, I've got my animals, I got my horses, I got my house, I got my kids.

00:15:56.000 Like, I'm good and all that stuff.

00:15:58.000 And I was still not in a place of peace, even while running all these different things with acts, even knowing, okay, I've got a purposeful existence with the stuff I have.

00:16:06.000 Most people, they go to a day job and they hate it.

00:16:08.000 I don't even have that.

00:16:09.000 And it was still just hard not having that sense of peace.

00:16:12.000 The way I'm able to reconcile things that happen with Kulti and all of this stuff is that it's kind of a lot like a meditation on the Lord and the peace that comes in and to act from heaven and not from earth.

00:16:27.000 What do I mean by that?

00:16:28.000 Like, I know that you've, Had different things talking about meditation and breath work and stuff like that.

00:16:34.000 We're taught in meditation, for example, we'll sit there and you want to focus on your breath, tip of the nose, as the coolness passes the little ridge.

00:16:42.000 You might be there and not focus on the other thoughts that might be passing by.

00:16:46.000 Oh, I'm finding a thought.

00:16:47.000 What do you do?

00:16:48.000 The practice is when you notice you're off and you go back to the coolness of the breath passing through the nostrils.

00:16:55.000 Now, in the same way, the peace beyond all understanding, knowing that the Lord has you on this thing.

00:17:01.000 Now, there's an actual neuroscience of it.

00:17:03.000 There's something called our window.

00:17:04.000 Can I borrow that for a quick second?

00:17:06.000 It's kind of how I process some of these things.

00:17:09.000 See, I rest in the word of the Lord.

00:17:15.000 I'll tell you a little story on this, what's related to this.

00:17:17.000 So, our senior VP, okay, his name's Adam, and he's a great guy, great guy.

00:17:24.000 But he's also, he actually went through AA and he'd actually gone through, because he had an alcoholism problem.

00:17:31.000 He'll tell you all about this.

00:17:31.000 This was years, years, years ago.

00:17:34.000 But, you know, he's still an atheist, still agnostic.

00:17:38.000 And one day we were talking, and I was just like, Adam, like, with all this stuff, like, just honest question, like, why?

00:17:44.000 Like, why after all this?

00:17:45.000 Like, what is it that holds you back?

00:17:47.000 This was like back in February.

00:17:49.000 And he was like, you know, I got to be honest with you, TJ.

00:17:53.000 The reason why is because I don't understand what happens to the little children.

00:17:58.000 It's just messed up to me that God will allow little children to die.

00:18:02.000 It's just, I can't reconcile it.

00:18:06.000 And I told him, I was like, well, Adam, I'm not going to speak anything into existence, but I'll tell you what.

00:18:11.000 If something happens to my children, I'm going to still find a way to praise the Lord.

00:18:14.000 I'm going to still see what is positive in that.

00:18:17.000 And I'm going to still see that he is the great physician, that there's still something that is actually meaningful in it.

00:18:23.000 And so Holt's passing was, I mean, it was an insane incident.

00:18:31.000 I mean, here I am.

00:18:33.000 I run this company where.

00:18:36.000 Sensibly, a lot of people know me for helping them protect their families by being able to buy these homesteads that are as protected as humanly possible.

00:18:42.000 You're off, you're off grid, you can set up security systems, you have your own fencing, you have your own all these different things, right?

00:18:51.000 And my old son passes away less than 10 minutes after I hugged him in my own driveway by his own babysitter, just bumped in the head.

00:19:02.000 That's it.

00:19:03.000 And I found him.

00:19:08.000 And I could sit there and I could say, Lord, what the?

00:19:16.000 You know what?

00:19:17.000 You know, I could sit there and the demons inside of me, the negative voices, they want to be, they want to be, this is what they sound like.

00:19:24.000 They want to be like, Lord, what do you have on me now?

00:19:27.000 Don't tell me about your only begotten son because my only begotten son's now passed away too.

00:19:33.000 So get out of here with all of this.

00:19:35.000 Yeah, it wants to go there too.

00:19:37.000 But instead, I'm able to rest in him.

00:19:41.000 So, when I told Adam the first time, and it's the same thing that helped me out, so I'm putting my money where I'm about this.

00:19:49.000 I know that Jesus says that heaven belongs to the little children.

00:19:53.000 In fact, until we become like little children, we will not inherit heaven.

00:19:57.000 And it's very, very important.

00:19:59.000 I know that he sees things in ways that I don't.

00:20:04.000 And the irony is, with everything that happened with the cult, the only place that I can be in is go to a place of peace beyond understanding when I know that he's got me.

00:20:14.000 The truth is that now that everything that I've done, no matter how purposeful Axe is, no matter how much land I open up, and no matter how many properties, no matter how many people I help out, finally be able to.

00:20:25.000 Move off grid and all this, and I will fight.

00:20:28.000 I will fight as hard as I can fight.

00:20:29.000 It's never going to bring my little quote back.

00:20:32.000 But I'm not going to let that be an opportunity to get me to stop, even though I face so many different things that would crush most people.

00:20:41.000 Just month to month, our overhead to run this company, month to month is about $200,000 to $250,000 just for payroll.

00:20:49.000 Just for payroll.

00:20:50.000 You add in the roads, the construction, all this other stuff, it easily gets into.

00:20:56.000 Over $500,000 a month just to keep the lights on for this company.

00:21:02.000 So if you're off by one day, one week, one message, one thing, one close, someone messes up, someone doesn't do a wire, anything else like that, you might from one week to the next be down $200,000, $500,000 and literally be sitting there.

00:21:18.000 And I can sit there and go, Lord, that I'm aware of.

00:21:22.000 Nobody else does what I do, does what we do.

00:21:25.000 This is your company.

00:21:26.000 I acknowledge you.

00:21:27.000 All my ways, you tell me.

00:21:29.000 You write in Proverbs that if I acknowledge you in all my ways, you will make my path straight.

00:21:33.000 And this is not looking straight right now.

00:21:37.000 And I will find that if I just pause and take a breath and just look at it and just consider for a little bit more, then he will help me with that piece.

00:21:48.000 So I was going to say, here's kind of the neuroscience of what happens with it day to day.

00:21:53.000 We have something, it's something called arousal theory.

00:21:56.000 And it's not arousal like sexual arousal, okay?

00:21:59.000 So it's arousal in terms of like.

00:22:00.000 Stop right there.

00:22:01.000 Yeah.

00:22:02.000 It's more just like our window of kind of tolerance.

00:22:04.000 So we all have a kind of window of stress and we want to be making decisions in that window of stress.

00:22:10.000 If we're pushed out of that window of stress, it's called hyper arousal, hyper. 0.99

00:22:15.000 And that means that we're going to be just in a place of like, what the fuck are you doing? 0.74

00:22:20.000 Like all of this stuff. 0.94

00:22:21.000 And yeah, some of this stuff is to do that.

00:22:24.000 And it feels like in running acts, like this long form meditation on the Lord where I'm focused on the mission he has given me. 0.60

00:22:33.000 And Satan and the enemies and the customers being Israelites will try to push and pull me. 0.70

00:22:38.000 So you're like sitting there, focusing on your breath, and imagine someone's like tugging you on your arm, tugging you on the next thing, and you're just like, no, I'm going to focus in on this. 0.98

00:22:47.000 So step one is not allowing myself to get outside of that window that I might have.

00:22:54.000 That's part one, knowing I have the principles of the Lord to help me guide back and stay in this.

00:22:59.000 I don't need to do this. 1.00

00:23:00.000 A fool, I'm talking to a fool. 1.00

00:23:02.000 Hey, it's actually, if I'm talking to a fool, that's going to be even more. 1.00

00:23:05.000 Folly. 0.99

00:23:05.000 Let me not go deeper into this thing. 0.99

00:23:08.000 Let me not start arguing with all this.

00:23:10.000 Let me not do that.

00:23:11.000 So that's part A.

00:23:12.000 Then part B, what I found is if I start acting in this window of hyper arousal, now making really bad decisions.

00:23:21.000 Now I'm really getting myself twisted in really a bad place.

00:23:25.000 So I found that when I trust in the Lord, whatever it is that brings me back down out of the window of this place of hyper arousal, it's often.

00:23:37.000 A piece of wisdom from the Lord.

00:23:38.000 Like it will be something, some new insight, some new way of thinking.

00:23:42.000 Sometimes it will be like, oh, like, especially because I run X, I'll sometimes feel like, oh, like, this is probably how you feel about us, or like, this is how you feel about me.

00:23:53.000 Like, if I, for example, have the employees come in and, you know, they're asking for money yet again, you know, for some new project yet again, that's another few, you know, sometimes I feel like if I sneeze, it's another 10 or $100,000 on this stuff.

00:24:06.000 And I'll be like, dude, like, you didn't come in, you weren't grateful, you weren't, you didn't explain out for, you just came in asking for money on this thing.

00:24:13.000 And I'll be upset about that.

00:24:14.000 I'll be like, Do I sound like that in my prayers, Lord?

00:24:18.000 Oh my gosh, I actually do.

00:24:20.000 I sound like this and just, hey, give me this money right now.

00:24:23.000 Give me this thing right now.

00:24:24.000 And sometimes they'll bring me just a little bit closer, a little bit closer to Him, a little bit closer understanding these things.

00:24:29.000 And then on the other side, there's hypo arousal where it's a depressive state and it's just the depression.

00:24:36.000 It's just, it's a deep, awful place of just like, yeah, everybody would be better off without me.

00:24:42.000 Like, yeah, this is just worthless. 0.84

00:24:44.000 Like, everything I've been doing is completely useless. 1.00

00:24:45.000 This is a stupid thing. 0.99

00:24:46.000 No one's listening to any of this stuff. 1.00

00:24:47.000 Everybody's just addicted.

00:24:48.000 They're going to want to just go back to Babylon.

00:24:51.000 This is just going out into a void and forget absolutely all this stuff, just all of this.

00:24:57.000 After what's happened with Colt, you see, I remember talking to my wife and I was like, babe, you know, I think about separating out the good thoughts and the bad thoughts.

00:25:09.000 And it's very clear to me now that if I wouldn't say that to you, or if I know for a fact you wouldn't say that to me about Colty's death, I know.

00:25:19.000 That is a false thought.

00:25:21.000 I would never go up to her and be like, This is all your fault. 1.00

00:25:24.000 You're such a crap mom. 1.00

00:25:25.000 You weren't actually there. 1.00

00:25:27.000 You didn't do that.

00:25:28.000 And if she were to go up to me, You're such a terrible father.

00:25:32.000 You didn't provide.

00:25:33.000 You didn't do any of this other stuff.

00:25:34.000 And this is your fault.

00:25:36.000 You were just right outside of there.

00:25:37.000 I would know that that's crazy.

00:25:40.000 So if I'm not going to do that to her, she's not going to do that to me.

00:25:42.000 Why would I do that to myself?

00:25:44.000 And I've noticed that when I look at the voice that allows me to continue on.

00:25:50.000 With my fast, and I'm the third day into a fast, and it's just like, dude, just go get that Twinkie right now, or go get that cookie right now.

00:25:59.000 You can go have that cookie, or you can go.

00:26:01.000 And I know it's a thing that's taking me out of it.

00:26:04.000 I know, oh, that's the false voice versus the one that actually allows me to stay in that.

00:26:09.000 It's the same one that, yeah, after everything passed with a cult, dude, of course I want to sit around and just eat tubs of ice cream and just be like, F the free world and forget all of this stuff.

00:26:20.000 This is all a joke. 0.72

00:26:21.000 This is all ridiculous because none of it matters anymore.

00:26:24.000 I could do that, but the voice that's like, no, instead, we're going to get back on our workout program.

00:26:30.000 We're going to go and we're going to do walks every single morning.

00:26:33.000 Let's get up.

00:26:34.000 Let's go do some weights today.

00:26:37.000 And it's going to be really powerful.

00:26:38.000 I know you feel like, what's the point in lifting weight right now?

00:26:42.000 Well, let's go lift the weight.

00:26:44.000 You know, one of the things that I did specifically was I started doing walks, but I put on a 50 pound weight.

00:26:50.000 And then I got to 100 pound weight as I do my little walk around the neighborhood.

00:26:54.000 And so I was doing it and I got.

00:26:57.000 You know, from that voice, it told me, you know, part of the reason that I'm having you, you know, do these weights is because it shows your grief and it represents your grief.

00:27:06.000 But think about this you have put this weight on you and you are walking through the neighborhood.

00:27:14.000 But what happens now that you take off this weight and as this weight comes off, you're going to be stronger.

00:27:21.000 And so you're going to be able to walk and do things that other people can't do because you put on that weight.

00:27:27.000 And in the same way, I sometimes see it as with Colts passing, it's deep grief.

00:27:32.000 It's heavy grief.

00:27:32.000 It's really heavy.

00:27:33.000 It's like, I would say it's way heavier than that 100 pound backpack that I use as I go through day to day stuff, you know?

00:27:40.000 But I also know that as the grief kind of goes down, it also allows me to be stronger when I talk to other people, when I talk to people about their suffering and understand a little bit more about the stuff that they go through and that we all go through with all of this stuff and to not lose hope.

00:27:54.000 And my hope with all of this, what I see it as is, you know, Coulty was a little angel, but I know that that was his time and I'm lucky enough to have had him.

00:28:06.000 And I'm so happy to have had the times I had with him.

00:28:09.000 That boy, In under two years, lived a greater life than so many people get to live for however long they might end up living through everything.

00:28:20.000 And with the lessons he taught me and the grief that I feel, yeah, we're going to go to the next level.

00:28:26.000 We're going to have new things and it's going to help out millions of people, not just thousands.

00:28:31.000 I see this as millions of people and I'm just, there's not going to be any quit from any of this stuff.

00:28:37.000 So, sorry, that was a little long winded, but it's just how I kind of feel about all this stuff.

00:28:43.000 You're a grieving father, mate.

00:28:48.000 I call that, for me, that's either heroin gear or suicide gear. 0.98

00:28:54.000 Like that's suicide fodder.

00:28:57.000 Yeah.

00:28:57.000 And anything that takes you there.

00:29:00.000 I begin to understand the function of the suicidal thought.

00:29:06.000 The function of the suicidal thought is you have come to the end of yourself.

00:29:10.000 You've come to the end of yourself.

00:29:12.000 This is all you can do as you.

00:29:15.000 In my own experiences of crisis, which are different.

00:29:20.000 What I've, funnily enough, been shown is that what you learn in crisis is actually a truth forestalled.

00:29:31.000 Like that, we know what the condition is of life here.

00:29:34.000 And we can place, and if you're going to afford anyone this right, it's the grieving parent.

00:29:41.000 We can place shoulds and conditions on what should happen.

00:29:45.000 A father should never have to endure that.

00:29:47.000 That's so sad.

00:29:47.000 It's undeserved.

00:29:48.000 It's pointless.

00:29:49.000 There's a zillion ways of describing it accurately and justly.

00:29:53.000 And in fact, What I would say is that that's sort of precisely the ingredient that leads you into a new realm.

00:29:59.000 That if, like you said, no matter what you do, no matter what is achieved, that pain has been felt, that's been experienced.

00:30:06.000 This is where you are now.

00:30:08.000 And you can now really, the only walk that's available to you is the one with Him, the one with God.

00:30:15.000 It's the only choice.

00:30:16.000 It's the only choice.

00:30:17.000 And that is one of the blessings that I do see in this because I choose to see the blessings in it.

00:30:23.000 This has made it a hyper focus.

00:30:25.000 Like I will say one thing that I have joy about.

00:30:29.000 And that is that I'm only 32 years old and I get to see with clarity something that people may live to 95 years old and never be able to understand.

00:30:41.000 See, I now get to say, okay, I know what it's like to have a multi million dollar company.

00:30:47.000 I know what it's like to have the land and I know what it's like to have the horses and all this other stuff, right?

00:30:52.000 And now after Colty, I understand wait a minute, what I cherish more than anything are the tiny, Little moments that I had with him.

00:31:01.000 It would be when he's eating yogurt and he had just yogurt around his face, or I would be working in the office and he'd just like pop into the office, dada.

00:31:11.000 Or I'd be hanging out in the bathtub and I'd be really pissed off.

00:31:14.000 Some customer said something that was just out of line and I'm just sitting there and I'm taking a bath and I'd be like, nobody come in, like nobody, just nobody.

00:31:22.000 He wouldn't care.

00:31:23.000 He'd just open it up and just come right in.

00:31:26.000 And I think about those moments.

00:31:27.000 That's what stands out in my mind.

00:31:29.000 And so, It doesn't require some deep theological understanding.

00:31:33.000 It's actually purely logical economic reasoning.

00:31:37.000 We could have all the fiat currency in the world.

00:31:39.000 We would trade that for gold.

00:31:41.000 Why?

00:31:41.000 Because the fiat currency is going to go to zero.

00:31:44.000 The gold is going to raise up in value.

00:31:46.000 If I had all the gold in the world, I would trade all the gold in the world for land.

00:31:50.000 Why?

00:31:50.000 Because the land has more actual useful value than all the gold in the world.

00:31:55.000 I could have all the land in the world and all the things in the world, and I would trade it for what one thing?

00:32:02.000 Just tiny little moments that I got to have with my family.

00:32:07.000 And with Colty, just those tiny little moments is when I was just putting on his diaper, and he'd be like, Daddy, you're a beetle bug.

00:32:17.000 And I'd be like, No, you're a beetle bug.

00:32:18.000 And he'd say, No, you're a beetle bug.

00:32:20.000 Just small things like that.

00:32:22.000 So that's a fact, right?

00:32:25.000 If I would trade all that just to have a little moment like that, now I can go through life for the rest of my life knowing to just look at those tiny little moments and to truly savor them, to deeply, deeply savor them.

00:32:39.000 And ironically, it answers that prayer for what I'd asked for, for a peace that goes beyond all understanding.

00:32:45.000 As I just go and I enjoy small little things, I get to see the little dog that might pee and, you know, maybe, you know, looking at water and just a small little moment of like, is that pee or is that water over there?

00:32:59.000 Savoring that and just like registering that and knowing like, that's a taste of heaven right over there.

00:33:04.000 All that.

00:33:04.000 I get to live the rest of my life enjoying that.

00:33:06.000 Even though I also get the glory of having a purposeful existence, one where I know it's aligned with the Lord.

00:33:14.000 I know I can help people out with all of this stuff.

00:33:15.000 And it's beautiful.

00:33:16.000 One time, this person told me this thing.

00:33:18.000 You might get to see me strangle that dog, actually, and that'll be a heavenly moment for us all.

00:33:23.000 One time, this man said, You know, I could want, but prior in one of the earlier incarnations of my life, I was with a certain management group.

00:33:32.000 And when that all broke apart, you know, as always happens to people in my position, ripped off for a bunch of money, all that stuff.

00:33:39.000 And I was telling it to someone who'd been in a similar position, who'd worked in music.

00:33:43.000 And he said that he'd been a mentor.

00:33:45.000 By this guy that was a gangster.

00:33:47.000 And the gangster guy said to him, like, oh, they, you know, them very people that ripped you off for the money, they gave you the opportunity to make the money in the first place, right?

00:33:55.000 And he's like, yeah, they did.

00:33:56.000 He goes, so at the beginning, if when they'd said to you, hey, we're going to give you this opportunity, but down the line, we're going to rip you off, you'd have taken that deal, right?

00:34:03.000 And he's like, yeah, I would have taken that deal.

00:34:04.000 He goes, some of us, son, we ain't, some people, they are willing to go flip burgers.

00:34:11.000 If you want to play at the table where people flip burgers, no one's going to rip you off if you play at that table.

00:34:16.000 But some of us, we're high rollers.

00:34:17.000 We like to play at different tables.

00:34:19.000 Now, with your analogy of the economies of fiat versus gold versus land versus true spirit, and like Emmett Fox says, you know, that a human soul, you trade an empire for a human soul because an empire is temporal.

00:34:36.000 It's in the narrow bandwidth of the temporal material reality.

00:34:39.000 With the human soul, you're dealing in eternity.

00:34:42.000 It's almost inconceivable for a human being.

00:34:44.000 And indeed, the only currency that's going to work for you is the piece that Parfit.

00:34:48.000 Pass off all understanding because now the only currency, and I mean currency in both of the forms, i.e., an electric charge, a power, a power that can run through us, the only one that's going to work now is like that.

00:34:59.000 All of those things are foreclosed for you.

00:35:01.000 Not that you won't know joys, of course, but you will never again be free of that.

00:35:05.000 That innocence is gone.

00:35:06.000 That innocence is gone.

00:35:09.000 Only Christ can meet you there.

00:35:10.000 Only God can meet you there.

00:35:14.000 It's outside of the world of reason.

00:35:16.000 So it's therefore outside of the world of language, a reason system, an exchange of differences.

00:35:21.000 There's no That can be said.

00:35:22.000 I know that, you know that.

00:35:24.000 But we are, I believe, being collectively and individually schooled for something that's important.

00:35:31.000 And the people that are going to participate in this, like it says in Romans, that bit, the groaning pains of the earth is groaning like a woman in childbirth for the revelation of the children of Christ that are going to be co heirs with him.

00:35:45.000 Greater things than these shall we do.

00:35:47.000 Like, you're not going to, like, no one's going to do that if you have the options.

00:35:51.000 I would like to see before when we were talking about me coming to the Lord, and I had a spiritual life.

00:35:56.000 Before and I had power and I had charisma.

00:35:58.000 And very early on, I recognized that I was on a kind of what I might call a sort of shamanic path.

00:36:03.000 Like I knew that some, like their flow comes in me.

00:36:06.000 I followed your career, by the way, just so you know, I followed your career from like, I actually read my bookie wook when I was 13 years old.

00:36:15.000 Oh, that's so lovely.

00:36:16.000 So that was in 2007, I believe.

00:36:18.000 Probably you're a bit too young for that.

00:36:21.000 Probably created some damage.

00:36:22.000 And I grew up in my, I grew up, actually, I would say the opposite.

00:36:25.000 It actually prevented some damage.

00:36:26.000 Ah, because.

00:36:27.000 Because I was able to read it.

00:36:28.000 I was like, this way, not this way.

00:36:30.000 Exactly.

00:36:30.000 Go that way, go that way.

00:36:31.000 Let me just not do that stuff.

00:36:34.000 So I know of some of the time periods of what you're talking about.

00:36:38.000 So it's been pretty interesting to see the different versions and iterations and paths of growth and spiritual things that you're talking about.

00:36:44.000 He says, Jeremiah, that the living water, we are participants in the living water, but don't make cisterns.

00:36:52.000 Don't hold on to it the same as the Exodus story or the Genesis story earlier of holding on to it.

00:36:57.000 Don't hold on to it. 0.71

00:36:58.000 Don't hold on to that which is meant to flow through you.

00:37:01.000 Like, Don't put your light under a bushel.

00:37:03.000 Not only is that kind of, I don't think it just means the modesty.

00:37:06.000 Don't contain your light.

00:37:07.000 Don't try to hold your light.

00:37:08.000 It's not yours.

00:37:09.000 It isn't yours.

00:37:10.000 It's radiating.

00:37:11.000 He, even though sharing the qualities of God, did not see equality with God as something to be sought.

00:37:17.000 Two, I feel like, so the mistake and the error I made is like I was aware of giftedness, but the giftedness I thought was for me to get stuff.

00:37:26.000 I thought I'll get stuff.

00:37:27.000 Same for me, I did.

00:37:28.000 And it never worked.

00:37:29.000 It never, ever, ever, ever worked.

00:37:31.000 Now, too, I think the potter.

00:37:33.000 You know, that we can't say, the clay cannot say it at a pot up.

00:37:36.000 This really hurts.

00:37:37.000 Stop it.

00:37:38.000 And I was thinking, actually, you know, that what I felt is this kind of inward molding of a clay that's difficult to detect.

00:37:44.000 And all these things are parables and analogies.

00:37:46.000 And we're not obviously talking about literal clay, but it's still hard, isn't it, with the limitations.

00:37:50.000 Our epistemological limitation is difficult to envisage what he might be saying.

00:37:54.000 But it seems to me that he's talking primarily about consciousness, is our resource.

00:37:58.000 That's where we participate in the living flow.

00:38:00.000 It's accessible to us now.

00:38:01.000 He's with us now.

00:38:02.000 He's with us now.

00:38:04.000 I just thought.

00:38:05.000 And I don't know what pottery was like 2,000 years ago or whenever Isaiah was written or whenever Paul was back referencing it as he later did.

00:38:12.000 But I do note that when the clay is formed, whether it's into a vase or an ashtray or a mug or a cup or whatever, that the thing that it's being the potter's wheel spins, you're spinning at a high frequency, a high frequency when you're being molded.

00:38:27.000 And when we were talking about meditative states before, that some of us, and my prayer is that as many of us as needed will experience whatever it is, even though it is so, so.

00:38:37.000 Painful even to hear it recounted.

00:38:39.000 Lord alone knows what it's like to go through it.

00:38:41.000 Experience what is required for us to get to the frequency that we need to get to.

00:38:45.000 You need to be spun at a high frequency if you're going to go up there.

00:38:49.000 You need to enter into that.

00:38:53.000 If we're down here in the gross, the material, what the Ayurvedic folks call the Kali Yuga, where everything is heavy and matter and body, like down here, I think I've sort of given it a good go and tried out what are the things that might work.

00:39:09.000 Might not work.

00:39:10.000 I've messed around with all that stuff.

00:39:12.000 And what happened when Christ came?

00:39:13.000 He's a man.

00:39:14.000 He's a man like Jake, like you, like me.

00:39:16.000 And he loves us all the same and would die for any one of us.

00:39:20.000 So, all of that thing that I've been doing, trying to sort of accumulate and separate and specialize myself, that sort of just got like.

00:39:29.000 I totally get it.

00:39:30.000 And so now I can only exist in his light.

00:39:33.000 I can only exist in his light.

00:39:36.000 I completely get it.

00:39:37.000 And so, number one, it's funny that you mentioned the clay analogy because that's also like what Adam was made out of.

00:39:42.000 He's made out of clay, he's molded from dirt and from clay.

00:39:45.000 Like, that's what it even is from the first place.

00:39:47.000 But then, similar to that, another analogy is.

00:39:53.000 Besides clay, it's also that God refines us.

00:39:58.000 And so when you see what it takes to refine silver and to refine gold and refine precious metals, like you have to superheat it and you have these impurities that bubble up to the top.

00:40:08.000 And so sometimes you might feel like, my goodness, like these impurities, like, oh gosh, this is terrible.

00:40:13.000 But these impurities, they come up to the top out of ourselves and then they can be scooped up.

00:40:18.000 Like we live in this crucible in this world.

00:40:20.000 And sometimes I flip back and forth, I'll be thinking about different things about, like, my goodness, like, what.

00:40:25.000 Exactly, is this the crucible?

00:40:27.000 You know, I to kind of tie a lot of these pieces of what you just said about this material reality, and from what I know with Acts, right?

00:40:37.000 I don't want anybody to watch this podcast and think that what I'm saying is that because the goal of that, like the goal of what we're doing is to build heaven on earth.

00:40:47.000 That is very literal.

00:40:48.000 I literally mean the goal is to build heaven on earth.

00:40:52.000 That's what I want to do.

00:40:53.000 I want to be the construction company that builds heaven on earth.

00:40:56.000 And I want to inspire other construction companies to be like, you know what, forget this, forget apartment complexes and multi family apartment construction.

00:41:05.000 I want to build heaven on earth.

00:41:07.000 I don't want anybody to confuse that with me saying some type of like, oh, like because you bought Axe, like that's some replacement for Christ.

00:41:13.000 What I've kind of come to in my understanding with Axe and how I see this is rather than thinking that like buying an Axe property, owning your own land with your own animals and all of this stuff that people dream of, rather than thinking of it as like that's the end goal, actually, What I found is that having the homestead and having this stuff is it actually molds you towards it in a really powerful way.

00:41:37.000 So, the easiest way I can compare it is marriage, right?

00:41:40.000 So, like, if you approach a marriage like, oh, when I get married to this person, all my problems are gone.

00:41:47.000 And it's just like, we're all good now.

00:41:50.000 Like, this is all good.

00:41:52.000 That's a very toxic mindset with the marriage.

00:41:55.000 The reality is, iron sharpens iron.

00:41:58.000 You're going to have different things that come up.

00:42:01.000 Through the interaction of you two together, that you're going to both be able to grow closer together and closer to God.

00:42:08.000 The closer to God you get, the closer together you get.

00:42:11.000 And that's beautiful.

00:42:13.000 What I believe, and there is scripture to back this up, so it's not just like me just taking stuff out of context, is that the actual practice of stewardship itself, stewarding stuff to prosperity, it is, in addition to the Bible, it shows you many of the mysteries of life.

00:42:32.000 Like, how interesting is it that when we go to Genesis 1, like, what are those first words that God said to man and woman?

00:42:40.000 I just think about the context.

00:42:41.000 So, like, it says right there, okay, so he forms man and says specifically, Take your time.

00:42:52.000 I'm in no position to judge.

00:42:54.000 We've all seen the clip.

00:42:56.000 All right.

00:42:56.000 So, God created mankind in his own image.

00:42:58.000 In the image of God, he created them, male and female.

00:43:00.000 He created them.

00:43:01.000 God blessed them and said to them, I mean, you're going to, he's not going to mince words.

00:43:05.000 These are the First words he's gonna say to man ever.

00:43:08.000 You just okay, I just woke up.

00:43:10.000 What are you gonna say to me?

00:43:11.000 Be fruitful and increase the number, fill the earth and subdue it, rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground, right?

00:43:21.000 Or be fruitful and multiply, right?

00:43:25.000 I've been really kind of thinking about this idea that, like, the reason he did that isn't just because that's your purpose.

00:43:31.000 He's also saying, when you do that, it's going to all explain itself. 0.98

00:43:35.000 Like, when you take on the joy of, like, managing these livestock, which, by the way, for example, like, managing Wagyu, Wagyu are very dumb. 0.96

00:43:42.000 They, They will trample over any electric. 0.94

00:43:47.000 They don't care about getting zapped out.

00:43:48.000 They don't care about pain.

00:43:49.000 No, they don't. 1.00

00:43:50.000 They will just trample right over. 1.00

00:43:51.000 Managing the pigs, Ibericos, like they just will go right out. 1.00

00:43:55.000 You learn, oh my gosh, like managing this chaos. 1.00

00:44:00.000 Wow.

00:44:00.000 Like, is this what it's like for us, Lord?

00:44:03.000 Like, you know, is this what it's like when you see all these different things and you realize all the things you have to manage and you have to get into this place?

00:44:10.000 So I kind of talk to people about rather than thinking of these family compounds, because a lot of people, they'll be like, that's my dream.

00:44:17.000 That's my end goal.

00:44:18.000 That's my trophy.

00:44:19.000 Or I'm thinking of it that way.

00:44:20.000 Instead, think of it as like, okay, this is like a practice I'm going to take up for the rest of my life.

00:44:25.000 And it's going to be really beautiful to have this practice.

00:44:28.000 If they go in thinking, TJ's going to do the farm and the ranch and the family compound and all my chompables are gone.

00:44:34.000 No, no.

00:44:35.000 You're going to have the farm and the ranch.

00:44:36.000 You're going to have the family compound and you're going to have a whole new set of problems.

00:44:41.000 But you're going to want those problems rather than the other problems.

00:44:44.000 I'd rather take the problems of, dude.

00:44:49.000 Here with my mom on the family compound, and she's up again. 1.00

00:44:52.000 She just has to go and say that thing rather than like, let me find what retirement home to put her in. 0.99

00:44:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:59.000 I'd rather deal with like freaking the pigs got out again than, okay, let me go over to the grocery store.

00:45:07.000 Oh, all they have is artificially pumped up pork that I have to go out and eat.

00:45:12.000 We're going to have problems, but I'd much rather those problems.

00:45:16.000 And I believe that he wants us to do it.

00:45:18.000 I mean, it's just logical.

00:45:19.000 Like, he created all things according to their kind.

00:45:22.000 Okay, that means that they're formed for a specific reason for a specific purpose.

00:45:27.000 Birds do what they fly, okay.

00:45:29.000 Spiders do what they weave webs, okay.

00:45:32.000 He gave us thumbs and he placed us in the garden to what to cultivate and keep it.

00:45:37.000 We are made specifically to have our own estates, to have our own ranches, to tend to these animals.

00:45:43.000 We're made for it.

00:45:45.000 How much psychological damage do I have to do to a bird to convince a bird?

00:45:50.000 If I had some new program that was like, hey, birds, like, guess what?

00:45:53.000 Like, you could actually flap enough and you could fly, and then all the birds go.

00:45:57.000 That's too good to be true.

00:45:59.000 That must be some type of scam.

00:46:00.000 That's impossible.

00:46:01.000 Or what do I have to do to spiders if I had a spider web weaving program and I was like, I'll teach you how to weave a web in seven days for the spider to be like, I can't do that.

00:46:11.000 That's what people sound like to me when they're like, oh, this is impossible.

00:46:14.000 It's too good to be true.

00:46:15.000 No, we were made to do it.

00:46:17.000 And in doing it as a practice, we come to become closer together.

00:46:21.000 We come to be closer to Him.

00:46:23.000 And we begin to know more of our purpose and know more of our capabilities and What is actually possible.

00:46:30.000 And it's beautiful.

00:46:32.000 It's very, very difficult.

00:46:33.000 And some days you're going to want to quit and you're going to want to say, this is freaking not worth it.

00:46:37.000 Like, my goodness.

00:46:39.000 You know, what kind of entrepreneur goes on a podcast and says, it's sometimes not going to feel worth it.

00:46:43.000 But you know what?

00:46:44.000 Yeah, sometimes it's not going to feel worth it.

00:46:46.000 But then, on the whole, when you look at all the memories generated, it's amazing.

00:46:52.000 When I think about the times I got to spend with Colt walking out there, when I think about the times that I've had a big, Huge argument with my wife, and I'm like, forget this stuff.

00:47:02.000 And I go out and I just walk on the land, and I just get to just sit there, look at the flowers, and look at the sunset.

00:47:08.000 How amazing that is!

00:47:10.000 The times that my daughters get to go and look at the flowers and just enjoy and pick the little flowers and stuff like that, like how worthwhile that is.

00:47:19.000 You know, even his burial, like how amazing that is.

00:47:23.000 Like it's a privilege that I get to have it.

00:47:26.000 And I know that's almost sick.

00:47:28.000 Am I sick for saying that?

00:47:29.000 A privilege to get to bury my son?

00:47:31.000 Because that's terrible.

00:47:33.000 But it's also something that I cherish so deeply of like, wow, that's really, really special.

00:47:37.000 And so.

00:47:39.000 I know we've got to start wrapping things up here, but I wanted to say this in relationship to your book.

00:47:45.000 May I, for two seconds?

00:47:48.000 In your book, you relate the AA 12 steps program to what it might be like in having a relationship with Christ and coming to know the Lord.

00:47:59.000 And you mentioned these 12 steps.

00:48:02.000 Step one is honesty, step two is hope, step three is faith.

00:48:06.000 Then we have courage, integrity, willingness, humility, love, and discipline, right?

00:48:10.000 Perseverance, spirituality, and service.

00:48:13.000 Every single one of those things are going to come out in you as you begin to steward land.

00:48:19.000 As men begin to learn, like, oh, wow, like there's stewardship of this land, and like, wow, I can protect my woman.

00:48:24.000 And it feels really good.

00:48:26.000 Like, I think a lot of men need to learn what it feels like once again to feel like, oh, yeah, I'm actually protecting my woman, protecting my children.

00:48:33.000 It feels really good to not provide by just making money, but to provide by saying, like, no, this is actually food that I grew for you, and you get to enjoy it.

00:48:41.000 Like, it's a big feeling. 0.97

00:48:45.000 In running acts, I thought that if we just got things right, this was my stupidity.

00:48:52.000 If I just get it right, if I somehow, if I finally just have like one of the houses built out where people can see it, like, and we have the houses built out, but oh, if they can just see it, they'll finally get it.

00:49:02.000 And I realized, like, oh, it doesn't really work that way.

00:49:04.000 And I really thought about it.

00:49:05.000 And then I was reading your book and it hit me.

00:49:08.000 Oh, it's because people are often in step one.

00:49:12.000 They're not actually admitting their powerlessness to an addiction.

00:49:17.000 Yeah.

00:49:18.000 Our society has a deep, deep seated addiction to the comfort zone.

00:49:26.000 The Illuminati do not need a massive prison program, they just need five minute cities and to make them really, really convenient for people.

00:49:35.000 Before I'd started ACTS in college, I was tasked with writing a five page paper about any topic.

00:49:41.000 I decided to write it about Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

00:49:43.000 Ended up writing 75 pages about Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

00:49:47.000 And what I wrote about in that paper was that if you look at the needs, they are we have a need for just basics, right?

00:49:55.000 Food, water, shelter, then security, then relationships, then our self esteem, then actualization.

00:50:02.000 What is given to us by society are simulacra of what is necessary in every single one of those levels.

00:50:09.000 So for food, rather than real food, we're given artificial food.

00:50:12.000 And then subconsciously, we're like, I don't understand what's off about this.

00:50:16.000 What's off about all this?

00:50:17.000 But We're just addicted to it.

00:50:19.000 And then when it comes to security, we get our security from our wage slave jobs, where we have security from big corporate who pays us this meaningless thing that we don't actually want to do.

00:50:32.000 And then in our relationships, we are given by society social media.

00:50:35.000 Go ahead. 0.99

00:50:36.000 Go ahead, little pleb. 1.00

00:50:37.000 Just keep scrolling, little pleb. 1.00

00:50:39.000 You know, I was going to bring up with you there's a very interesting study on the relationship between addiction, specifically to heroin, for example, and relationships in society. 1.00

00:50:50.000 There's a whole thing called Rat Park.

00:50:52.000 Basically, rats given the opportunity to choose the different addictive substances or just interact with the other rats.

00:51:00.000 When isolated and alone, they will choose the heroin every single time.

00:51:03.000 But when put in rat park with other rats to go enjoy, they're not going to do the same thing.

00:51:08.000 When we are isolated and given this simulacra, this fake food that pretends to be otherwise, and these fake sense of security from our fake jobs with a fake meaning that goes absolutely nowhere, and fake relationships with social media, and then we destroy our self esteem by telling men to not be men and to tell women to not be women, and then we destroy all actualization by making it so that the most creative people are only focused on what?

00:51:35.000 Mammon?

00:51:36.000 That's all we're ever doing with our time and our intelligence, just chasing more and more and more mammon.

00:51:42.000 Then what happens is we prevent ourselves from actually taking the necessary actions to actually learn resourcefulness and learn to stand up on our own two feet.

00:51:54.000 But I believe strongly, and I did back then when I wrote that paper, and then I thought through what that would look like.

00:52:01.000 And then eventually there was acts.

00:52:03.000 I believe that there is an opportunity that is in alignment with the vision.

00:52:07.000 That God had for us. 0.98

00:52:08.000 He never meant for us to be little, tiny, pathetic, powerless, little slaves that whine and complain about every single thing. 0.92

00:52:16.000 He meant for us to grow in Him and rely on Him every step of the way and to learn it. 0.71

00:52:22.000 And we have an opportunity, if we actually do it, to speak of one mind, of one language by the Holy Spirit that resides in us, the same Spirit that rose Jesus from the dead.

00:52:33.000 And we have the ability to create a new Eden.

00:52:37.000 Where by working together, we can go out, we can acquire the best land in the world that would otherwise get snatched up by these elites and these investment funds who absolutely hate us.

00:52:48.000 And we can turn those lands into a wonderful opportunity to grind against difficulty as we learn to settle issues with each other and we learn to set up these resources with each other and we start taking back our basic needs first.

00:53:03.000 We have our own food and our own water and our own good clean air and our own sunlight and our own grasses.

00:53:11.000 That we get to enjoy.

00:53:12.000 And then we take care of our security needs and we take care of each other with our own cryptocurrency system, our own way of bartering and trading with each other.

00:53:20.000 And we form real relationships, not these fake relationships, but real ones where community is not just a digital experience, but a real, felt, physical experience with a real, physical hug.

00:53:33.000 It's different when you do that.

00:53:34.000 We could have had this conversation over Zoom, but it's more intense and real when it's here and in person.

00:53:39.000 And when you do that, whether you're a man or a woman, It feels good and it restores our esteem needs.

00:53:46.000 When we're, when as a man, when you go, man, I don't know anything about taking care of a cow, like this is embarrassing, to like, I know how to take care of a cow, that feels good.

00:53:56.000 And when you're like, I don't know how to shoot a gun, and then you're like, I know how to shoot a gun, it feels really good.

00:54:03.000 And when you give your children food, it's like, my goodness, this is amazing.

00:54:08.000 And you can't replace it.

00:54:09.000 There's no dollar amount that could possibly replace that.

00:54:12.000 And when that's happening, you start self-actualizing and you have the time and the wherewithal to.

00:54:17.000 Think through new ideas, you can really create something so powerful.

00:54:21.000 And that leads us to the final level of what Maslow's hierarchy actually was supposed to be.

00:54:26.000 We're lied to.

00:54:27.000 We only think it stops that self actualization.

00:54:29.000 There's another level, which was transcendence.

00:54:31.000 He was made fun of by the other academics.

00:54:35.000 And I believe that this was my work.

00:54:37.000 This is what I used to talk about when I first thought about this.

00:54:40.000 It's kind of the flip in reverse.

00:54:42.000 So if you take Maslow's hierarchy of needs and you reverse it, and instead of thinking taking in needs, you let it go.

00:54:48.000 So, you flip self actualization.

00:54:50.000 You think of it as like, let me let go of this like perfectionism and like needing to be like the most sexual self actualizing thing ever.

00:54:57.000 Like, instead, like, no, dude, like maybe I've got some mom issues and I should like work on that stuff.

00:55:01.000 Right.

00:55:02.000 And then if you have esteem issues, it's like, let me let go of other people's opinions about what they had to say about me.

00:55:07.000 Instead of like relationship needs, you're like, you know what?

00:55:09.000 Let me go of, let go of like this like need to constantly like take in love.

00:55:13.000 Actually, can I show love to others in my actions as a verb?

00:55:17.000 Instead of security needs, you start thinking like, I don't need this like constant like certainty for every single thing.

00:55:26.000 I want to fight for something so worthwhile that it might be uncertain.

00:55:29.000 You know, I might get Charlie Kirked.

00:55:31.000 I might.

00:55:32.000 I might have someone hate me for this.

00:55:34.000 And then we see the ultimate example by Jesus Christ.

00:55:37.000 You know, you have those basic needs that you have.

00:55:39.000 He let go of that too.

00:55:41.000 He was able to really focus on that.

00:55:44.000 When we enter into that realm, rather than by doing it by way of gathering materials, but instead we take the elevator past the original levels of Maslow's hierarchy, instead have the Spirit take us to another level where we're focused on that letting go so that we can focus on the Lord as a source of provision.

00:56:02.000 I believe that that is when we.

00:56:05.000 Begin to build the real heaven on earth.

00:56:08.000 So it's not about the physical, it's about the spiritual and the mental and the place that we could be in.

00:56:13.000 It's the place that we can be in in these relationships.

00:56:16.000 And that's the world that I want to live in, at least for now, until I'm eventually rejoining my son and I'm able to hang out with him and I'm able to just frolic and joy in that timeless state with him.

00:56:27.000 Let's pray.

00:56:28.000 Heavenly Father, thank you for this time together.

00:56:31.000 Thank you for your presence in this conversation.

00:56:42.000 Pray Father for the reconciliation of Koti and his Father and we pray for peace now in this time, this outside of time.

00:56:52.000 Lord we know eternity through you and Lord we know love and feel love through you.

00:56:57.000 Lord it's you that inverts all pyramids and triangles and takes us beyond reason.

00:57:02.000 It's you that shows us relational love.

00:57:05.000 It's you that provides the formula.

00:57:07.000 In your endless poetry Lord you establish meaning.

00:57:11.000 In your wisdom Lord you include us.

00:57:13.000 God, we pray that the people that need to see this will see it.

00:57:17.000 The events and acts that need to take place are brought about, Lord, through communion between us, with you, under you and through you.

00:57:28.000 Lord, may we receive everything that you intend for us.

00:57:31.000 And may you comfort TJ and his family.

00:57:36.000 Be with them.

00:57:37.000 Be with them, Lord, and give them the strength that they need as they continue this walk and this mission in your name.

00:57:42.000 Lord, show us how we might participate.

00:57:46.000 How you would include us in this endless grace.

00:57:49.000 We pray this in the name of your Son Jesus Christ.

00:57:51.000 Amen.

00:57:52.000 Thank you.

00:57:53.000 Nice.

00:57:54.000 Good work.

00:57:55.000 Thank you.

00:58:00.000 Oh, thank you so much.

00:58:02.000 Hey, remember my book, How to Become a Christian in Seven Days, is out and available now.

00:58:13.000 If you don't want to pay for it or can't afford to pay for it, click the link in the description.

00:58:16.000 Download the audio book for free, but you can also.

00:58:19.000 Buy it if you want to buy it, it would certainly help me because having a successful book is a good thing for me right now.

00:58:27.000 But you'll love the book, it's good to know.

00:58:30.000 It's good, get it?

00:58:30.000 Let me know what you think about it in the comments and the chat.

00:58:34.000 Well, thanks very much for watching the show.

00:58:35.000 We will be back next week with another two part interview.

00:58:39.000 In the meantime, if you can, stay free.

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