00:00:18.000Thanks for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:21.000We've got a lot to talk about today here on Rumble.
00:00:23.000If you ain't got Rumble Premium yet, get it now, while you still can, where free speech is still treasured and cherished.
00:00:35.000Kanye West, yay, as is now known, was set to be appearing at the Wireless Festival in the UK.
00:00:41.000Now, He has been banned from entering the country.
00:00:44.000I see a lot of friends of mine that are Jewish in the UK, people that work in showbiz and stuff, saying that it's good that he's being banned and being able to cite what looks like a litany of significant errors, actually, when you look at it from their perspective.
00:00:57.000You know, a song called Heil Hitler, wearing swastikas, stuff like that.
00:01:02.000But when you actually care about free speech, I suppose what you're saying is if you're not saying, I respect the free speech of people that are, for example, I don't know, saying the worst things about me, it's Possible to say about a person if you're not saying that, then you're not interested in free speech at all.
00:01:20.000And I think actually the Kanye West issue is interesting precisely because he will take you to edge lands.
00:01:27.000I think that's in a way what a creative artist is supposed to do.
00:01:31.000Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.
00:01:33.000If you're watching us on Locals, Rumble, Rumble Premium, or YouTube, welcome.
00:01:38.000Thanks for joining us today for this conversation about free speech.
00:01:41.000We'll also, of course, be looking at Armageddon, the apocalypse.
00:01:44.000We'll be looking at Trump's rhetoric from a variety of perspectives.
00:01:48.000And we'll be doing crack on our show about recovery as well as just trying to keep a handle on events that are moving so quickly.
00:01:56.000It's important to remember that God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow because otherwise I think you'd go kind of crazy.
00:02:03.000I don't know, at least I reckon I would.
00:02:04.000So here's the original story about Kanye West.
00:02:08.000The US rapper Kanye West has responded to the backlash over his headline slot at the Wireless Festival in London.
00:02:16.000A number of corporate sponsors, including the soft drink giant Pepsi, have withdrawn from the event.
00:02:22.000After his appearance was announced, now known as Ye, the rapper has released a song in praise of Adolf Hitler and sold Swatzika t shirts.
00:02:35.000I suppose Heil Hitler is in praise of, because the word Heil is like celebrate.
00:02:40.000But, like, it also says the N word in it.0.66
00:02:43.000I mean, it's not like Adolf Hitler would have gone, I like this song.
00:02:46.000Like, Hitler wouldn't have liked that, I think.
00:02:48.000I don't think he'd have liked Kanye West at all.
00:02:51.000Pretty clear that Kanye West didn't like Jewish people.
00:02:54.000Among his many pretty, let's say, extreme policies, there was the Holocaust.
00:03:01.000That's pretty clear where he stood on that.
00:03:04.000But I reckon, say as a comedian, when you make jokes about paedophilia, you are not endorsing paedophilia.
00:03:12.000It's difficult to think of a joke about paedophilia that isn't in and of itself condemnatory of paedophilia.
00:03:21.000And I suppose when you're making any creative.
00:03:25.000When you are in creativity at all, if you're not moving around in the edges and the periphery, you are by kind of default doing stuff that's not really worth doing, I would say.
00:03:35.000So, the point of creativity is to take you into new territories or to celebrate beauty or to bring you closer to God or be godlike.
00:03:44.000Me personally, I don't reckon I would produce a song called Heil Hitler.
00:04:04.000Do you think that someone should be able to say Hail Hitler, N-word?
00:04:08.000I know Dave Rubin, when I was working with him more, he would say, like, oh, well, you will say Hail Hitler, but you will say N-word.
00:04:16.000I do sometimes say the N-word, but I don't know.
00:04:18.000It's because when I was at a very impressionable age, I, because I'm so cool, was hanging out with black people and I had conversations about it and felt like, yeah, it's not good for white people to use that word.
00:04:30.000I had really exhaustive conversations.
00:04:31.000Conversations about it, and sometimes that began with me using that word to black people's faces and then explaining to me, sometimes physically, why I shouldn't say it.0.70
00:04:42.000So, like, I'm sort of done on that one.0.53
00:04:45.000But let's see where we end up with the old BBC.
00:04:48.000He's previously apologized for making anti Semitic comments.
00:04:51.000I also know that the intention of the culture is to strip away free speech and to strip away creativity.
00:04:58.000They want banality, banality is part of what they want.
00:05:01.000And I somehow feel that that's a bigger threat than.
00:05:05.000Hateful rhetoric, although hateful rhetoric is obviously by definition not good.
00:05:11.000Making anti Semitic comments, blaming the outbursts on his bipolar disorder.
00:05:17.000I think she just said anti Semitic, and that's actually where you hate little ants and say that they shouldn't be able to.
00:07:04.000Statement from the Festival Republic, where the organizers are wireless, they're saying the Home Office has withdrawn Yea's Kenya West ETA, that's the travel authorization, basically the visa, denying him entry into.
00:07:36.000As a result, Wireless Festival is cancelled and refunds will be issued to all ticket holders.
00:07:43.000And it goes on to say, as with every Wireless Festival.
00:07:45.000They're doing all their promo about their bleeding refund policy.
00:07:50.000It goes on to say, as with every Wireless Festival.
00:07:52.000Multiple stakeholders were consulted in advance of booking Ye, and no concerns were highlighted at the time.
00:07:59.000They go on to say anti Semitism in all its forms is abhorrent, and we recognize the real and personal impact these issues have had.
00:08:09.000As Ye said today, he acknowledged that words alone are not enough.
00:08:13.000In spite of this, he still hopes to be given the opportunity to begin a conversation with the Jewish community in the UK.
00:08:21.000So that statement from Festival Republic, the organizer.
00:08:23.000Organizers of the wireless festival reacting to the news that the government has denied Kanye West entry to the United Kingdom, and as a result, they have cancelled the wireless.
00:08:37.000But there is no cancelled culture, though.
00:08:39.000Hey, it's interesting because who meets the standard?
00:09:30.000Whilst Kanye West may or may not have been or created anti Semitic content, he is also an authentic artist and a truth teller.
00:09:39.000Keir Starmer is a person that will just say whatever you have to say at any particular point in order to maintain the bureaucratic control of imperialist systems that are a lot more dangerous than Kanye West, let me tell you.
00:10:37.000Well, I mean, Tommy Robinson's position is pretty clear.0.95
00:10:41.000Actually, I think that's good because Tommy is often called out for being like in the thrall of Israeli money and Zionist power and whatnot.0.60
00:10:52.000And there, he's advocating for what you might say is free speech principles before personalities.0.81
00:10:59.000If you believe in free speech, believing in free speech means, like in the comments here, like we someone's like, not everyone in the comments here is like, do you know what, Russell?
00:11:07.000I just would like to say you're absolutely terrific.
00:11:22.000You know, people say really mean things about me, and if I was in charge, no one would be allowed to.
00:11:28.000But I'm not in charge, and that's reality.
00:11:31.000And no one else should be in charge either, actually, because they're no better than you.
00:11:35.000So why don't we all just accept that people say mean stuff?
00:11:39.000Sometimes and do mean stuff sometimes and try to organize systems that can accommodate that rather than la You know, like Kenny Westman, he's gonna be doing stuff.
00:12:22.000Look, because I know lots of Jewish people that are creative and brilliant and beautiful, and I don't think it's right ever to judge anyone on the basis of their race or religion, and Judaism is both.
00:12:31.000All right, so let's have a conversation.
00:12:32.000Someone's like, the God of humaneness.
00:12:35.000Now, mate, there are really very few circumstances where it's acceptable to decapitate anybody and hold their heads up.
00:12:47.000I mean, if like the worst case scenarios, they've come in your house, they've messed with your most beloved, you've chopped their heads off.
00:14:43.000Right come, let's look at a bit more Nigel vile it's a funny way to behave.
00:14:50.000Vile, really vile, the sort of rabbit hole.
00:14:54.000I'd like to rotate his mouth from horizontal to vertical and I bet you could make some interesting comparisons, but maybe that's true of everyone's mouth.
00:15:02.000The hole of Anti-semitism stroke, Nazism that he's gone down is vile.0.89
00:15:09.000But I think if we start banning people from No, I'm on his side.1.00
00:15:27.000How long before people rotate my mouth from horizontal to vertical and it looks like there's no nice way of saying this a vagina mouth?0.98
00:15:37.000How long before that becomes the norm?0.95
00:16:43.000So, yeah, I, in a way, agree with Nigel Farage.
00:16:46.000Not about the free market sorting it out.
00:16:48.000What I think here, here's something that's probably only I would say.
00:16:52.000There's an attempt to banalise creativity and to banish the kind of mercurial component that also frequently accompanies creative people and their endeavours and their brilliance.
00:17:05.000Keir Starmer wants to dim out the sun, that's true, have a look.
00:17:10.000But he also wants to dim out creativity itself.
00:17:13.000In fact, I would say the problem with the UK and the bureaucracies of Europe, More broadly, is a dehumanizing dampening of spirit.
00:17:23.000That's not to say that Kanye West was insensitive, maybe, to make that song N Word Isle It That.
00:17:34.000What do you want from the Sex Pistols or from, you know, the Rolling Stones once upon a time or NWA once upon a time or Andy Warhol or Basquiat or any one of a number of Peripheral edgeland figures.
00:17:50.000There's meant to be a kind of a challenge offered, I suppose.
00:17:53.000The problem, I don't think the defining culture in our time is people are saying too many mean stuff in a creatively provocative way.
00:18:00.000I think the problem is banalisation, dehumanisation, and hatred is part of dehumanisation.
00:20:21.000MAGA's primary supporters and Trump's cheerleaders are one by one falling away.
00:20:27.000Were the left right in the first place that Trump's going to bring us all to Armageddon, a crazy lunatic and a narcissist?
00:20:34.000Or is the truth that the deep state power is so real, so centralized, that the empire is so forceful that it doesn't matter what kind of marionette, gargoyle, brilliant figure, or banal.
00:20:50.000Plain and gray figure you put in the presidential office, in the end, you end up with the objectives of global power being met.
00:22:30.000To see him turn is an indication that the broad base of popular support is waning.
00:22:36.000But even a significant contributor like Fuentes is nothing compared to Tucker Carlson, who probably epitomizes more than anyone what you might call.
00:22:45.000Contemporary traditional American values.
00:22:50.000He may, I suppose, epitomize them more than Trump.
00:22:54.000And if that process continues, you could see a Tucker Carlson for president campaign emerging.
00:23:00.000I know people have been talking about it for a little while.
00:23:03.000And if the office of president becomes one of communication and representation in a sort of a broad and general sense, then you're going to end up with more and more people whose primary competence is communication and an ability to lead.
00:23:19.000Publicly rising to positions of prominence.
00:23:23.000And in a way, that's preferable to these tedious bureaucrats that have taken the reins in countries like the UK or peculiar compromised models, as in France, I'm talking about Macron.
00:23:34.000But really, I think all of us know what's required is radical systemic change that prevents the external influences controlling national politics.
00:23:42.000And the best way to do that would be minimal centralization.
00:23:46.000I've said it before, and I think it might be the only thing I say for a little while.
00:23:52.000Is infuriated by Trump, and I see this as pretty pivotal.
00:23:58.000The fact that it's happening for me means that Trump is operating on another plane now.
00:24:04.000You could look at it very sort of practically, like, well, it's his final term, he's leaving office.
00:24:08.000You could look at it from the perspective of, in truth, global politics is engineered and organized beyond the executive office and is controlled as many people, most people maybe believe these days, not by figures that are observable in public, but by powerful forces that remain submerged.
00:24:26.000Here, nevertheless, is the most popular and influential political commentator in America condemning Trump pretty vehemently.
00:26:13.000To send out a tweet with the F word on Easter morning promising the murder of civilians and then saying praise be to Allah without explaining any of it, you are mocking me and every other Christian because we're Christians.
00:26:43.000May come to be a pivotal moment in how Trump's presidency is regarded.
00:26:48.000What I think is challenging is that people that hated Trump, and Lord alone knows there was enough of them in the run up to his most recent election, will be saying, See, we told you.
00:27:00.000And it's that aspect of this that fascinates me the most because Trump still remains the person he has always been this extraordinary raconteur, buccaneer.
00:27:27.000I suppose the version of a belligerent and despotic Trump is always going to be more egregious than a belligerent and despotic Kamala Harris because her attributes did not lean that way.
00:27:39.000But I still regard it as a superficial.
00:27:43.000I don't think presidential power is the real power.
00:27:46.000And that's what's surprising and shocking me.
00:27:48.000I admire Tucker Carlson's authenticity, integrity, and willingness to publicly be so confrontational.
00:28:05.000My only surprise, the only thing that surprises me is that someone so vivid, lurid, whether you like him or not, as Trump is, it seems to me, carrying out a course of military action that would have happened regardless of who was president.
00:28:20.000And that's more terrifying than Trump's vulgarity.
00:28:24.000Whilst it's very difficult to disagree with Tucker Carlson's condemnation from the position of a Christian or a person that respects and loves human life.
00:28:31.000And I'm very grateful that he's taken that stance and that position.
00:28:35.000It's not a position I can take as an Englishman.
00:28:37.000It's a position that I can recognize as a Christian.
00:28:41.000What I primarily see there is wow, even Trump is just another person that's passing through a very potent system.
00:29:14.000And just so you understand, the people of Venezuela, they say if I ran for president of Venezuela, I'm polling higher than anybody has ever polled in Venezuela.
00:29:24.000So after I'm finished with this, I can go to Venezuela.
00:31:18.000And then he goes, just looking for missiles, actually.
00:31:20.000Like, then he's sort of like, because I could be shot out of the sky.
00:31:23.000And what I've sort of seen him is someone who just trusts their own process, as you're saying, to such a degree that it will sort of say anything.
00:31:30.000She's got a lovely voice, beautiful voice about the president of Mexico.
00:31:33.000And then sometimes it might be that he's saying that.
00:31:36.000Like, people, I suppose, I'm trying to keep a half a mind on the New York Times and the BBC and the sort of vocal liberals that are like, Trump is evil.
00:34:27.000I started to realize, say, like, DARPA, DARPA developed, so, like, you know, they were involved in the Wuhan, people allege, the Wuhan gain of function research experiments that led to the outbreak of COVID.
00:34:41.000Some people think there never even was a COVID.
00:34:42.000I mean, there's so many ways of looking at it, but they certainly developed a lot of satellite technology, a lot of interfaces and things that we use came first out of DARPA.
00:34:51.000And I suppose the reason I'm talking about it is because of the idea that there's this masked technology that we don't have access to that's way advanced.
00:34:58.000And it's just common sense, really, that the government and elite institutions would have access to technology that's not commercially available.
00:35:05.000And I think, like, if what we're looking at is a titty robot feeding a human baby, what The hell's going on on whatever the current equivalent of Epstein Island is because all the perversion ain't gone anywhere.
00:35:18.000They're still out there, they're still perverts.
00:35:20.000You know, Jeffrey may be dead, but the perverts are still running the world, presumably having sex with peculiar robo breastfeeding creatures.0.96
00:35:33.000Terrifying to contemplate, really.0.78
00:35:35.000But, you know, in a heartening pivot, rape gangs in the UK are being funded by your taxes.
00:35:41.000GB News can exclusively reveal that at least 150.
00:35:45.000£50,000 of taxpayers' money was spent on the legal aid costs of two cousins who groomed and sexually abused five vulnerable girls.
00:35:55.000Manzor Hussein and Imtiaz Ali, who were in Greater Manchester at the time of their attacks, were sentenced to a total of 58 years in prison in December last year.
00:36:07.000They were convicted of rape and indecent assault.
00:36:11.000Ali, who hosted sick sex parties and allowed other men to prey on the young girls, Had 71,111 quid's worth of.
00:36:21.000It's funny the news in the UK, it's gone like that now.
00:36:24.000Yeah, obviously that's pretty appalling because, as usual, it centres around the abuse and horror and violence that these kind of crimes are always locust around.
00:36:36.000But I suppose if you've got a justice system and the justice system is publicly funded and you agree that criminals have the right to a defence, that's actually just a matter of course.
00:37:59.000Never less than heartening to hear that.
00:38:01.000Welcome to Crack On with Dave, Joe, and Russell, where we talk about recovery from alcohol and drugs and also how these principles can be applied to freeing you from a world that seems to want to get you ultimately hooked to robot knockers in one way or another.
00:38:21.000Joe, how's your recovery going this week, mate?
00:42:13.000And on approaching it, there's no trust with the way he communicates and that because he said some shit that he didn't mean to a few times.
00:42:21.000So I reaffirmed, I said, third exit, turn him right.
00:43:40.000Like, Joe's rejecting the patterns of this world.
00:43:44.000Like, the pattern of the world is you're in a driving lesson.
00:43:47.000Joe's like, well, actually, you're actually reiterating the explicit function because your man there has gone into a bit of a state of panic.
00:43:55.000I was today considering something that's Really sort of obvious, like in fact, it came up in the last show when you're a drug addict, all you think about is drugs and alcohol.
00:44:04.000And when you're consumed by addiction, probably of any kind, there's an obsessive component in addition to the compulsive component.
00:44:11.000And our relationship with God has to become obsessive is not the right word, but I think of like, say, like a destitute and crazy person, like most of us in addiction.
00:44:21.000Like, I think sometimes about what St. Paul's life must have been like.
00:44:26.000He's in jail, he's chained up, he's having to like live in impoverished conditions.
00:44:30.000If you're gonna be a person of God, you're You're going to find yourself, if you're serious about it, at odds with the world.
00:44:36.000And if you've nested your religiosity into the world, your real religion is the world.0.86
00:44:44.000True faith is going to bring you to odds with the system because it's an irreligious system, generally speaking.0.58
00:44:53.000So, what I like about Joe is the way, among other things, is the way that he's willing to put his own principles ahead of the situation.0.70
00:45:09.000I mean, you're just going to be taught.
00:45:12.000I mean, if you're serious about growing in your relationship with God, like you're going to get taught a lot.
00:45:19.000I think, is it, it wasn't, it was it really about, is it, was it the tone and the sporastic and the, it's like, I think we live with such high anxiety sometimes, you know, that it's like, I can't handle, I get that way with my kids too.
00:45:36.000It's like when I'm high, highly anxious at times when, which a lot of the time, like my kids are the ones that can just bring it out so quickly.
00:46:43.000Russell, I swear to you, I was saying to Massey before we started the show, like, he goes, straddle these two lanes when we come up to this junction.
00:47:49.000And I know I'm doing a reversing test.
00:47:51.000I've got half an hour in the lorry practicing, and then it's straight into the reversing test, and then uncoupling and coupling to the trailer and all that.
00:48:01.000But the reversing test is pretty hard.
00:48:03.000You've got to go around the cone, and these things are massive, mate.
00:48:10.000So it's like, That's quite a heightened state, like the adrenaline, you know what I mean?
00:48:14.000And there was, I got a little bit annoyed because there was another instructor turned up with a pupil and they're like getting out of the lorry and watching.
00:48:21.000I said to him, Do they have to be there?
00:48:48.000Jamie Winship is a brilliant writer who teaches Christian principles in a way that I think is real excellent because I'm trying to find the right way of saying it.
00:48:57.000Everyone says that being a Christian is about having a personal relationship with Christ.
00:49:01.000But then, when you meet and talk to people, everyone gets a little bit denominational and packs their relationship with Christ with their particular denomination or sometimes their own morality.
00:49:11.000I'm not saying just denomination in terms of Protestantism, Catholicism, orthodoxy, or whatever.
00:49:16.000I'm saying, like, you know, some people will be focused on ethics, some people will be focused on mystery.
00:49:21.000What Jamie is focused on in his brilliant book, Living Fearless, is how Christ will change you, like, how meeting Christ will bring out the truth of who you are.
00:49:34.000Like that, you've got a false identity built out of the world and trauma, to use a sort of a therapeutic word, and that is masking who you really are.
00:49:43.000And if you're in that false identity, you're going to make a lot of mistakes.
00:49:48.000Like, oh my God, I'm in my shame, I'm in my fear.
00:49:50.000It started to change me straight away.
00:49:52.000I've started, I'm actually now observing it happening.
00:49:55.000Like, I've been in Christ for ages, and this morning, you know, when I say ages, I'm talking about like I've got up at, say, seven, and we've gotten to like 11.
00:50:05.000I was like, wonder what's going to be the thing.
00:50:09.000Like everyone I'm interacting with, whether it's being appropriate in my interactions with males and females at yoga or whatever people I work with, then when it's my wife, when my wife, like, we're like, it's like we're talking about money and like stuff with you and your family, Dave.
00:50:27.000Like, my wife's like, I don't think we should do this and I don't think we should do that.
00:50:41.000Now, Jamie, he teaches a technique called Tyrannosaurus Rex mouse.
00:50:46.000Like, as soon as someone else goes Tyrannosaurus Rex, you go mouse.
00:50:51.000Because if you go Tyrannosaurus Rex, then you're into a conflict dynamic.
00:50:56.000And I think you, Joe, when you're not personally affected, like when you've described situations, Joe's don't mind getting involved in a hot and combative situation and chilling it out.
00:51:08.000Chilling it out, even if that involves physicality and confrontation.
00:51:13.000But perhaps when you're like all of us, when your own buttons are pressed, it's harder.
00:51:18.000I mean, I think actually the real test for you in these driving situations is can I remain with Christ while I'm driving this lorry and while I'm dealing with this guy?
00:51:32.000Or am I going to let go of Christ and go into old techniques?
00:51:36.000I mean, they're all old techniques manipulation, charm.
00:51:39.000Like, would be more like the sort of things I would do, but also intensity.
00:51:43.000Like, I use intensity if I start to feel threatened, like I sort of feel it going up, you know.
00:52:41.000Like, it's always like that, isn't it?
00:52:44.000Like, I bet if I met, you know, sort of like anyone.
00:52:46.000Parents, like it's all like you know, but like enough, I hear like the way people talk about oh, my dad does this, my mum does that, and then you meet them and they're like, I think they're nice.
00:52:54.000I actually go out of my way to make them much nicer, but I don't like it if people go like my parents, like my parents, fantastic, you know, it is.
00:53:03.000Um, anyway, so okay, all right, so let's think about this like from a recovery perspective, what uh Joe's describing there, Dave, is a resentment, and I do think that more and more this really aligns with the stuff we've learned from Jamie this week.
00:53:18.000That the process of inventorying is about moving from your fake identity to your true identity.
00:53:26.000Particularly, that becomes relevant in the fears in the fourth column, in the 12 steps tradition.
00:53:31.000In the fourth column of inventory, you would say the lorry driver for making me nervous or talking too quickly or offering unclear.
00:53:41.000What would be, you know, like some of the people we work with, Tim M, I'm thinking of, in the second column would make you, what is your resentment against that?
00:53:47.000What's the charge in the second column against your thing, Joe?
00:54:37.000If our Lord has chosen you to be an anchoring and protective presence in the kingdom, when you're confronted with a nervous person, like, you've got to be like, I wonder if you could get to the point of doing it nicely.
00:54:51.000I sometimes just struggle to lose the sarcasm type thing.
00:54:54.000Like, I wonder if you could get to the point where it's like, Even though I'm doing the driving test, I'm so in Christ, I'm going to be loving to this guy.
00:55:02.000We're saying, Jacob, this is the test, though, right?
00:55:07.000Let Jake do his and then you round us out, Jojo.
00:55:10.000I was just going to say at a certain point, as you continue to grow maturity and God reveals things to you, most of your interaction with people are going to have to be you seeing it better than they're seeing it.
00:55:24.000Most of my interaction, even if I go into a room that's like, these are all professionals, I feel like I'm watching them interact and I'm not getting engaged with, even if they're saying, this is my role or whatever.
00:55:36.000I feel like as maturity continues to happen and you're.
00:56:30.000And thinking, hey, no, this is, and if my mind is on, okay, God's ingraining in me this pause when agitated or doubtful, he's granting to me these principles in this that the test is not just a Lori test.
00:57:06.000I'd be fearful driving a truck that I've never driven before and going about roundabouts.
00:57:11.000It's fear, I think, and obviously expectations as well, right?
00:57:16.000And it, These resentments are always so hard to get past because it's a reasonable expectation to expect a driving instructor that's not a nervous passenger, that's calm and a good communicator, clear, concise language, and a calm demeanor.
00:58:08.000Combining what Jake and Dave are saying there, Joe, and like the stuff that I know you know anyway, really, mate, is like that we've got to get to the point where we live by faith and not by sight.
00:58:19.000Like how this applies in my situation is I've obviously got to get to the point where I let go of outcomes, even in quite pivotal dramas in my life.
00:58:28.000So, like, getting to the point where it's like, say, Jake, like it's, and I was really, I was trying to do it this morning.
00:58:34.000It's like I knew I was in Christ, I was in my identity in Him.
00:58:37.000I didn't, I weren't trying to, like, I was being basically kind.
00:58:40.000I didn't want, like, you know, I mean, kind as in my eminence.
00:58:43.000It's not like the actions, but what I'm essentially behaving like is I don't want anything from anybody.
00:58:48.000It's not like, but now, like, what we would add to that is you want to be in conditions and situations where you can help people.
00:58:53.000When you know yourself, your identity, and your gift, you will move into situations where you can be of maximum use to others.
00:58:59.000You won't be trying to just get stuff from the world all the time.
00:59:03.000Now, even addicts, that becomes extreme.
00:59:04.000You're in crack houses, you're looking at porn, you're doing things that are about feeding the disease, that active, What Eckhart Tolle would call the pain body in you, this thing that's waiting to get lit up, what Jamie would call the false identity.
00:59:17.000It's waiting in there just for a situation.
00:59:19.000And it's like, how much tide can you take?
00:59:24.000Because that's when you get into some Isaiah territory and the potter, it's like he's showing you the furnace.
00:59:29.000And I love it when it gets to the end of Isaiah when he's going, you think, like before he says that famous, no weapon forged against you shall prosper, he's saying, I made the blacksmith, I made fire.
00:59:40.000Do you think any weapon against you can be like, I made all of this?
00:59:46.000So, when you're in a like, you know, if we can, can we get to a state where we're like, where we're in the furnace, where we're in the true, like the real Nebuchadnezzar fires and be like, I'm staying with you, God.
01:00:15.000The false fires are just revelations of where you are.
01:00:18.000I mean, like today, it's lucky that I'm getting more conscious or maturing or however you want to put it, because I was asking myself, what's it going to be?
01:00:26.000I know enough to know I'm going to come out of this state where I'm just being polite to people.
01:06:29.000I think back to the expectations thing.
01:06:33.000I think maybe that's part of my thing is like my expectations for people are so low that I'd rather be shocked that they're better than I thought they were because, you know, and I think, and I don't feel like I'm cynical.
01:06:58.000I don't think I'm cynical, but I think my expectations are so low that, Even if somebody said they were great, I wouldn't believe it, you know?
01:07:09.000I think, like, what got me this guy, yeah, was like, you know, if you make a mistake, right, and you acknowledge that shit, obviously, I did not mean to hit a sign.
01:07:21.000I also didn't want to smash into a car.
01:07:24.000And the lesser of the two was, bump the curb, you might tip a song.
01:07:50.000Yeah, I get the same thing when someone keeps repeating something that's like, okay, yeah, I shouldn't have hit it or I shouldn't have done that or yeah, I got it.
01:08:18.000And then it's just shaming, just bringing up that shame.
01:08:22.000I shouldn't even say shaming me, it's like bringing up the shame that I already have.
01:08:26.000Yeah, but Davey's right too that we have to, as the program says, put aside the other person entirely because I think what we do is we use our ability to discern and analyze without acknowledging our tendency to potentially, in this situation, intimidate.
01:08:42.000And the idea that there's a, An objective version of that man that doesn't alter depending on who he's interacting with and what situation he's in is implausible.
01:08:51.000So, definitely, we know, as the program suggests, that we are contributing.
01:08:56.000Like when it says in 12 and 12, if whenever we're disturbed, we know that we are contributing also.
01:09:04.000What people don't, I think, declare enough about that mindset is that you're taking kind of your power back.
01:09:09.000You're saying that I'm not a victim to the world.
01:09:14.000A participant and the part of your identity that's being enforced when you blame other people through blame in general is I'm not powerful enough to control my own life.
01:09:24.000Now, of course, because fundamental to the 12 steps is powerlessness, that's why I suppose, first of all, we have to acknowledge God, we work for God.
01:09:33.000That's my, you know, we're in it, we work as it says in step three, we're on an entirely different basis now.
01:09:39.000He's the principal, I'm the agent, he's the manager, I'm the worker, he's the creator, I'm the creature.
01:09:45.000Like, once we sort of like, if we're coming from that place, but you know, but as it says, it also in our program, we're children of God and we bow before no one.
01:09:52.000When you're in that position, when you're in that identity, that mindset, when you have that perspective, I reckon that you can face the world freely.
01:10:04.000And I suppose when something like this happens, it doesn't indicate to you, oh, look, this is a threshold that I've not yet passed when it comes to maintaining my conscious contact.
01:10:49.000You'd, I think we'd really think this was this guy was hilarious.
01:10:52.000That's what I think because I think that the part of you that's annoyed by him, I would be able to take care of, and like we would like find him very, very amusing.
01:11:03.000When we used to drive to meetings together, like, we used to, like, that's how we'd become firm friends is we'd drive to meetings, and like, because I don't know, man, we're just driving my little mini, and like, I drive pretty nuts sometimes.
01:11:14.000And like, sometimes Joe would go, not over the brow of a hill, the brow of a hill.
01:11:24.000It's like we were unsighted, sort of like, you know, anyway, it's very silly, actually.
01:11:28.000But, you know, I'm in the UK, this is Friday, so I'm in the UK being interviewed by the police right now.
01:11:35.000But, like, about, you know, you know what it's about, it's the same stuff, you know.
01:11:39.000And obviously, like, when you say that thing about not going into the shame, this is what this challenge has been in my life because it's such an untrue, shameful thing that has aspects to it, i.e., I slept around a bunch and that's not what I should have been doing, I was wrong.
01:11:56.000To live that way, I was wrong to live that way.
01:12:02.000So, when I'm in that situation with the police, I was like, I'm thinking about how am I going to be when I'm with the police?
01:12:07.000And part of me wanted to get to the point where I started to find myself arriving at a point where I'm not being polite to these people anymore because they are participants in something that I consider to have quite nefarious undergirdings, one might say.
01:12:22.000What does the Lord want, Jake, like when I'm in there?1.00
01:12:26.000I think bring the peace with you because the Christian, it's almost the opposite of like they, you should make the people you interact with go, How is he acting this way?1.00
01:12:54.000Because I always sort of wanted to be Jesus.
01:12:56.000And I didn't really reckon, like, and it was sort of stupid, like, because I wanted to be Jesus in some sort of, I don't know, glamorous way, I think.
01:13:04.000But as a Christian, that's what you're being called to do.
01:13:08.000You're being called to disciple him, to be trained by him, to get out of the way.
01:13:13.000Like, say in the St. Francis prayer, Lord, make me a channel of thy peace.
01:13:18.000That where there is hatred, I may bring love.
01:13:21.000That there's going to be hatred there, but I'm going to bring love there.
01:13:23.000Where there's wrong, I'm going to bring the spirit of forgiveness.
01:13:27.000Where there is discord, I will bring harmony.
01:13:29.000That where there is error, I will bring truth.
01:13:31.000The weather is doubt, I will bring faith.
01:13:33.000The weather is despair, I will bring hope.
01:13:35.000The weather are shadows, I will bring light.
01:13:37.000The weather is sadness, I will bring joy.
01:13:40.000Lord, grant that I may seek rather to comfort than to be comforted, to understand than to be understood, to love than to be loved.
01:13:50.000For it is by self forgetting that one finds, it is by forgiving that we are forgiven, it is by dying that we awaken unto eternal life.
01:14:29.000I was there for Holy Thursday and Good Friday.
01:14:34.000And on Good Friday, I wanted to go to Mass at three o'clock.
01:14:37.000Now, this is a country where there's reported airstrikes and you've got them alerts going off on your phone and all that kind of stuff.
01:14:42.000So I didn't know, but having got to where the church is, it's all like fenced off.
01:14:48.000There's big sort of walls and a security gate.
01:14:51.000And people were just stood outside and they're saying, no, they've shut the church.
01:14:55.000The government's shut the church and they've shut, like, I think they shut the Sikh temples, but like the mosques were still open, but they'd shut all the other religions and that.0.98
01:15:03.000So I had the answer straight away, like, it's Good Friday.
01:16:15.000And that's an example of where I can hold it together and Do the right thing and be calm and compassionate and even of service to people around me.
01:16:25.000But put me in a lorry of an instructor that's a bit irritating.
01:16:28.000I lose my shit after a couple of hours.
01:18:01.000So the end of bottom of 87, as we go through the day, we pause when agitated or doubtful, ask for right thought or action, constantly remind ourselves we're no longer running the show, humbly saying to ourselves many times each day, Thy will be done.
01:18:16.000We are then in much less danger of excitement.
01:18:19.000Fear, anger, worry, self pity, or foolish decisions, we become much more efficient.
01:18:25.000We do not tire so easily for not burning up energy foolishly as we did when we were trying to arrange life to suit ourselves.
01:19:04.000I don't see, like, you going on Friday.
01:19:09.000I picture if I'm in your shoes walking in there, I'm immediately, I mean, everything in my body and mind is screaming, this is the enemy.
01:19:19.000This is the, these are people trying to falsely take me down.
01:19:23.000Like, like that's the, I don't know, besides seeing the prosecution team or something like that, this is, this is the closest I'm getting to the enemy, right?
01:19:35.000So it's like these, these guys are directly against me and trying to, Screw up my life, my family.
01:19:42.000Like, it'd be that, that's going to be really tough.