Stay Free - Russel Brand - May 08, 2026


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00:00:09.000 Russell Brand, trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
00:00:17.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.
00:00:18.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:21.000 The culture is collapsing around us, and today we present the case for revolution.
00:00:28.000 As we watch the decadence of the Met Gala, the hopelessness of captured and reappropriated art counterculture belongs to the mainstream now.
00:00:38.000 Who knows?
00:00:39.000 Where new ideas will come from.
00:00:41.000 Let us know in the comments and chat if you've been watching our content with the likes of dear Ron Paul, an elder statesman who's able to offer us a principled stand and incredible insights into the type of political vision that might bring about the type of change that's required.
00:00:56.000 Revolutionary is the word that a lot of people are using.
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00:01:05.000 Or you could start worshipping the neo pagan false gods of.
00:01:10.000 The culture.
00:01:11.000 I mean, let's have a look at what was going on at that Met Gala.
00:01:15.000 So as I wonder if
00:01:45.000 there is an unconscious force beneath such things, kind of indicating to us unintended truths.
00:01:54.000 And there were masks being worn, there were guts being worn like that.
00:01:59.000 That's like an intestine, I suppose.
00:02:01.000 That was Cardi B wearing that.
00:02:04.000 I suppose it's an explicitly kind of hedonic, decadent event, isn't it?
00:02:12.000 How do any of us deal with the charge of hypocrisy?
00:02:16.000 Because, say, in one way, What's ridiculous about something like the Met Ball or the Oscars or any of those kind of big cultural festivals is that at them, people will advocate for political ideas that are totally cool, actually being compassionate and looking after the vulnerable and the broken, and how do we protect people that need help.
00:02:33.000 But when there is so much overt expenditure and so much indulgence and so much luxury, it seems ridiculous.
00:02:39.000 But then I think, oh, well, you know, you've not given away everything you own to help people, you're still broken and fallen.
00:02:45.000 Let me know, does that sort of lead you into a kind of cul de sac, a dead end, sort of a moral dead end?
00:02:50.000 When spectacle gets that vivid and that lurid, it's hard to sort of maintain any kind of interest in the culture.
00:02:58.000 This is actress Sarah Paulson.
00:03:02.000 This is a.
00:03:02.000 Oh, let's have a look at this.
00:03:03.000 This is wearing a dollar bill thing.
00:03:17.000 It's sort of reveling in its own meaninglessness.
00:03:20.000 Wherever you're watching us, get over and join us.
00:03:23.000 On Rumble.
00:03:24.000 I'll be here with Jake and Massey and Dave talking about this as well as that new Banksy statue.
00:03:29.000 We're going to cover some vaccine information.
00:03:32.000 Secretary Kennedy's talked about SSRIs, you know, the sort of antidepressants that were prescribed to probably maybe even billions of people.
00:03:39.000 Certainly I took them at some point in my life and now we're learning about some of the consequences, which I felt like at the time that SSRIs weren't working.
00:03:47.000 Hey, while people are strutting around dressed as intestines and wearing dollar bills on their faces and doing their level best, I reckon, to recreate the Book of Kings, where you can see sort of overt.
00:03:58.000 Decadence, what's next?
00:04:00.000 A boyfriend's earrings.
00:04:01.000 I mean, where do we go from here?
00:04:04.000 Where do we go from here?
00:04:05.000 Certainly, we don't go to the Cannes Film Festival where Dominican actress Marcile Taveras was booted off the red carpet apparently for wearing some reference to Christianity.
00:04:29.000 Hey, I'm appearing in Florida doing my show.
00:04:34.000 A funny thing happened on the way to church.
00:04:36.000 Click the link in the description to get your tickets.
00:04:39.000 It's on the 18th and 19th.
00:04:41.000 Is that right, Jake?
00:04:42.000 Join me there.
00:04:56.000 I know a lot of you don't like the Christianity being pushed down your throat, like you feel like it's the evangelicism is like reductive and a bit like the imposition of something that doesn't make sense to you.
00:05:06.000 But when I see that, when I see even his face rendered like that, I feel some kind of comfort.
00:05:11.000 I know that the answer is going to come through this revival.
00:05:16.000 I know it.
00:05:17.000 Something has to supersede the madness of our times.
00:05:21.000 Something has to supersede it.
00:05:23.000 It was always going to be him.
00:05:25.000 It was always going to be him.
00:05:27.000 Hey, we've got loads.
00:05:28.000 To talk about over the next hour.
00:05:29.000 But I want to also let you know that on Monday, I'm talking to Jeremiah Johnson.
00:05:33.000 A little while ago, we made some content about him appearing on Tucker.
00:05:36.000 He was talking about the crown of thorns because I've always been sort of, what is it?
00:05:41.000 Like, I've never thought the verification of or authentication of Christ through artifacts has been that kind of important because you're dealing with mystery and miracles and something that's not verifiable within reason.
00:05:55.000 So when people go, look, this demonstrates, I've always been a bit, I don't know, it's not like I've been Christian for very long or anything.
00:06:01.000 But I'll be talking to Jeremiah Johnson, and he does believe in that.
00:06:05.000 He does believe that the Shroud of Turin might be evidence that there was a kind of a supernatural atomic explosion kind of event that demonstrates the resurrection of our Lord.
00:06:15.000 Some sort of historical authentication.
00:06:18.000 So join us on Monday for that.
00:06:19.000 I've been talking to him offline.
00:06:20.000 He's a really lovely person.
00:06:23.000 Anyway, let's carry on with the Met Gala man.
00:06:27.000 I just remember when I used to go to stuff like that and used to care about dressing up, and I don't think I can.
00:06:32.000 Well, I don't think I can ever do it again.
00:06:34.000 I don't even mean the spirit of it.
00:06:36.000 I don't think I can ever get it up for that madness again.
00:06:39.000 I don't think I ever can get it up for that madness again.
00:06:42.000 What's the craziest outfit you ever wore?
00:06:45.000 Hold on a minute.
00:06:46.000 Well, I've had problems with outfits in the past, haven't I?
00:06:49.000 I mean, this thing.
00:06:51.000 One of the strangest things and most regrettable things that I did is when I was making this documentary ages ago, when I was doing Getting to the Greek and all that, I was doing a documentary where I was exploring happiness.
00:07:03.000 Now, during that time, that's.
00:07:04.000 What it became, it became super loose, this documentary, because we couldn't, you know, because of me, because of me being an idiot, really.
00:07:10.000 Anyway, I started doing stuff like turning up on red carpets and holding an egg up and things like that.
00:07:17.000 Like doing weird stuff.
00:07:18.000 I go, let's just do weird stuff so that people will just like speculate on it.
00:07:21.000 Anyway, people now sort of go, that was satanic, or it's a neo pagan symbol or something like that.
00:07:29.000 So I can't remember a stupid outfit, although I know for a while they were all stupid.
00:07:35.000 I remember watching my hair expanding around between 2004 and 2006.
00:07:39.000 I was back combing and creating this bouffant at the back of my head.
00:07:42.000 And then I watched back this video that I did, like a special, a comedy special.
00:07:46.000 And I remember, you know, like when you see wedding photos of if your parents got married in the 70s and 80s, you think, God, what were those outfits they were wearing then?
00:07:54.000 I felt that about my own outfit the next day.
00:07:57.000 Like I looked at it, I was like, oh my God, what were you doing?
00:08:00.000 Why did you dress yourself up?
00:08:01.000 All covered in, like, sort of licorice and belts and buckles and with my own hair helmet.
00:08:07.000 Like, so it's mostly hair and carrying eggs around.
00:08:12.000 Those are some of the dumbest things I've done.
00:08:13.000 From somebody from the general public.
00:08:15.000 Yeah, that's you, is it?
00:08:16.000 I thought it looked ridiculous.
00:08:18.000 At the time.
00:08:18.000 At the time.
00:08:19.000 I don't know what I was thinking.
00:08:19.000 Yeah.
00:08:21.000 I don't know what I was thinking.
00:08:22.000 It was smart.
00:08:23.000 It was marketing.
00:08:24.000 Yeah.
00:08:24.000 It's really what they, it's like a marketing event.
00:08:26.000 The whole thing's marketing, but don't you feel like it's saturated by it?
00:08:29.000 Like when you see something like a dollar bill or beloved Katy Perry there wearing a sort of a fencing mask, it's such a lot of effort, man.
00:08:37.000 Like when I've done, this is what I think.
00:08:39.000 This is why I'm very reluctant to even contemplate acting in any capacity, even in some redeemed future.
00:08:45.000 When I was like doing Arthur, and that lady, Jen Garner, who I really liked, she was such a lovely lady, you know, she's a famous movie star, married to Benefleck, at least she was at some point or another.
00:08:54.000 And I remember watching her getting all dressed up in a basque and being held up by a magnet in the film and thinking, this is not right.
00:09:02.000 You know, even though it's a very PG type movie, Arthur.
00:09:04.000 Or when Nick Nolte, all old, was being sort of directed by the guy, happened to be sort of quite a small guy.
00:09:10.000 He was a nice person and a good person, but he was like a little guy directing Nick Nolte.
00:09:15.000 And I feel like it's like watching a Jack Russell terrorizing a bear.
00:09:18.000 Like, it was a.
00:09:19.000 Nick Nolte, all sort of like.
00:09:22.000 Nick Nolte grabbing my nuts.
00:09:25.000 For reals, by the way.
00:09:27.000 From Nick Nolte on that bit.
00:09:27.000 Method Act.
00:09:30.000 I just felt, what is this?
00:09:33.000 I feel like, you know, when Neo wakes up in the soap pod, I kept feeling like that all the time.
00:09:39.000 You know, like, oh God, what are you doing?
00:09:41.000 Why are you in this movie where, like, Jen Garner's been casually denigrated?
00:09:45.000 Why Nick Nolte's been prodded about like an old bear, sort of, in Suffolk, London in Elizabethan times?
00:09:52.000 The whole thing is stupid.
00:09:54.000 It's stupid.
00:09:55.000 We must wake up.
00:09:57.000 Wake up, I pray.
00:09:58.000 I pray, wake up.
00:09:59.000 Anyway, though, listen, we're part of a revolutionary movement.
00:10:02.000 In a minute, we'll be talking about Banksy, who was an innovative and brilliant artist for such a long time.
00:10:06.000 I guess we shouldn't be surprised that he has been co opted.
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00:12:09.000 Hey, There was a time where Banksy was a byword for true artistic integrity, anonymity, mystery.
00:12:15.000 Like the art can be exciting again.
00:12:17.000 People create things that are worthwhile that might change the world.
00:12:21.000 Now, though, I suppose people are questioning whether or not Banksy is working in alliance with state sanctioned interests because a new and pretty cool sculpture appeared in central London.
00:12:33.000 But many people are questioning how such a thing could appear overnight if it wasn't facilitated by the kind of bureaucratic forces that would normally stop a truck.
00:12:42.000 Entering into central London, a bunch of people putting up a statue, or I don't know, letting off some sort of gel ignite based device.
00:12:50.000 How this could be happening without state.
00:12:53.000 If it wasn't state approved, would it be happening?
00:12:56.000 And you could probably apply that to all art and propaganda, actually.
00:12:59.000 Most things you watch, you're watching propaganda.
00:13:02.000 Hopefully, not this, though.
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00:13:10.000 Let's have a look at Banksy.
00:13:12.000 This is the Banksy statue that everybody's talking about.
00:13:15.000 It first appeared today and it's on a plinth.
00:13:18.000 It's of a man dressed in a suit and he's got one foot as if he's stepping off.
00:13:23.000 The plinths.
00:13:24.000 In his right hand he's holding a flag which is covering his face.
00:13:29.000 Well, if we look just through here, towards the bottom of the plinths, there is a signature which appears to be Banksy's.
00:13:35.000 The statue has been put up in a prominent.
00:13:38.000 I like Banksy.
00:13:39.000 When I first saw his stuff I was living in not living in, staying in and working in Bristol in the UK, that's in the west country where he's from.
00:13:46.000 Bristol's one of the first places that started pulling down statues because it's a harbour town.
00:13:50.000 I mean, we live on a little island.
00:13:52.000 The British do, so most places have got Ports and harbours, and therefore, when the slave trade was kicking off and making a bunch of money for the British Empire and helping to formulate and establish your country, there was a lot of economic reward and enrichment as a result of the slave trade.
00:14:06.000 So, when all of the woke stuff happened and the statue pulling down time took place, there was a guy, I think his name was Edward Coulson, I think was his name, and he was a very significant sort of, I don't know, contributor to the city of Bristol.
00:14:16.000 There were statues of him.
00:14:17.000 People started pulling them statues down, you know.
00:14:20.000 And Banksy's art was up and around then.
00:14:24.000 Banksy's art felt radical and insightful.
00:14:27.000 Although there are a really good British comedy double act called Cardinal Burns, and they used to do these great riffs on Banksy because some of his stuff is just a pun.
00:14:39.000 Like, even just take the example of that statue, it's just a flag.
00:14:43.000 Hey, sometimes, man, aren't we being blinded by the flag of nationalism?
00:14:49.000 Like, it's such a sort of an easy.
00:14:50.000 And like, sometimes it's like him, like someone just shooting love out of a gun.
00:14:54.000 And they did this.
00:14:55.000 Sort of brilliant thing, these sketches where they would show Banksy just as if he was just some normal middle class guy living in a suburban home.
00:15:04.000 And he goes, There's one where, you know, it's like a sort of a cop kissing a guy.
00:15:09.000 He goes, Oh, here we go.
00:15:10.000 I've got a policeman kissing a black fella.
00:15:13.000 And it was something like Samuel L. Jackson, just referred to him as a black fella, more to amuse myself than anyone else.
00:15:19.000 Really sort of like funny sketches that highlighted the idea that while Banksy's looked at as all radical and stuff, and he certainly is an impact.
00:15:28.000 The most impactful artist, maybe you could say, of our generation in terms of reach and stuff.
00:15:32.000 Certainly, no one's questioning that.
00:15:34.000 But some of it's just visual puns.
00:15:36.000 Did you, Massey, you probably saw that Cardinal Burns stuff, did you?
00:15:40.000 I've seen clips of it, yeah.
00:15:45.000 Yeah, they were good.
00:15:46.000 I thought that was a really good take on the Banksy phenomena that, like, he's just sort of some dad.
00:15:53.000 And now I know people have sort of unmasked Banksy, so he's not like it.
00:15:56.000 Yeah, like, people are thinking he's cool, but when he's doing it, he's just.
00:16:01.000 Yeah.
00:16:02.000 We don't know who he is, do we?
00:16:03.000 Yeah, we do now.
00:16:04.000 It's all sort of like people sort of pot online who he was.
00:16:07.000 I like, let's say, the age I am, man, I've still got like a bunch of like real respect for what he's done.
00:16:14.000 But I guess you brought this up, did you, Massy?
00:16:16.000 Because you think, oh, well, like it's sanctioned because otherwise it wouldn't be up.
00:16:21.000 Yeah.
00:16:21.000 I mean, I just remember the last bit of artwork that he did was on the courts of justice or whatever in London.
00:16:29.000 And it was like a judge with a hammer knocking like someone down.
00:16:32.000 It was like an anti free speech thing.
00:16:35.000 And they immediately covered that up with like barriers so you couldn't see it.
00:16:39.000 And then when the barriers came down, it was painted over.
00:16:42.000 And whereas this one, they put barriers up to protect it.
00:16:45.000 And when they asked the council about it, they're like, we love that Banksy has put his thing up here.
00:16:50.000 So it just feels like very state sanctioned.
00:16:52.000 Although the flag over the face, you could say it's the Union Jack, but you could also say, you know, it's the Palestine flag or whatever.
00:16:59.000 So it's not necessarily political in one direction.
00:17:02.000 But I think the government sees it as, oh, this is clearly the proles, the kind of plebs, you know, with the flag in front of them.
00:17:10.000 It's not anything about government, whereas the hammer on the judge was clearly like attacking the government.
00:17:15.000 So it feels like he's doing the government's bidding a little bit.
00:17:18.000 He's certainly sanctioned and approved because they haven't taken it down yet.
00:17:21.000 So, whether he was or not, the proof is in the pudding, isn't it?
00:17:26.000 Yeah, it's still up there now.
00:17:28.000 Here's some other assets on here.
00:17:30.000 Westminster Council has told the BBC it didn't grant permission to Banksy.
00:17:34.000 We're excited to see it.
00:17:35.000 We like it.
00:17:37.000 And yeah, that's what Massey was just referencing there.
00:17:41.000 There's that previous mural which they got rid of pretty quickly.
00:17:45.000 You know, I'm sort of basically saying that the judge is using that hammer.
00:17:49.000 To hammer down like a protester.
00:17:52.000 I really kind of like that take on him.
00:17:55.000 Let's have a look at that.
00:17:56.000 Yeah, like, so in one case, the message was covered.
00:17:58.000 In another instance, it was elevated.
00:18:01.000 I mean, hey, it's only a couple of weeks till I think there's another Tommy Robinson march in London.
00:18:06.000 I wonder if it were like, oh, man.
00:18:09.000 I was at a protest, that protest where they put the green Mohican on Churchill.
00:18:14.000 I was sort of really, I was zealous that day.
00:18:16.000 It was a really prominent and well remembered protest.
00:18:20.000 Protest in Britain, right?
00:18:21.000 Because it sort of outraged people, like the desecration of a statue of Churchill.
00:18:25.000 And I think even at the time, I felt see Churchill, of course, in one way, you know, warmonger, Dresden, all of that, alcoholic, depressive.
00:18:33.000 But I sort of like that old dude, Churchill, taking on Hitler and whatnot.
00:18:41.000 And it was a sort of a pretty postmodern moment, a bit of green turf being put as a mohawk on the head of Churchill.
00:18:49.000 I'm still really.
00:18:51.000 Trying to work out my position when it comes to all that because the world's unraveling so quickly these days, i.e., look at what we're talking about now.
00:19:00.000 Banksy, who was a criminal at the beginning of his career, his anonymity was to protect him from arrest.
00:19:07.000 Like he would have literally been arrested for crimes.
00:19:10.000 And now it sort of seems like, as long as his message is in alignment with state messaging, he'll be left alone.
00:19:17.000 And that's pretty true of any intellectual or public figure, actually.
00:19:20.000 If you are a public figure, it's probably because, in some way or another, Your message is being used by the state, whether you're an intellectual or a pop star or whatever.
00:19:30.000 I mean, just look at that mad, lurid Met Gala.
00:19:33.000 Whatever they think they're there protesting with a dollar bill over their eyes or whatever, what they're actually advocating for is selfishness, individualism, materialism, and a kind of hollow, vacuous superficiality instead of a really deep, sort of blood-soaked, painful culture, which could be our real legacy.
00:19:54.000 Anyway, if you're sort of a person that's getting propped up by the culture, it's because you're carrying the culture's message.
00:19:59.000 I guess the whole thing just makes me feel like we're chewing through reality faster than we can cope with.
00:20:06.000 You know, like, what message do you trust in now?
00:20:09.000 Like, everything I hear, it just sort of goes through me and by me very, very quickly.
00:20:14.000 I find it hard to sort of quantify or take seriously anything at all.
00:20:19.000 Maybe that's sort of how they, you know, when I say they, that's how, maybe that's how they want it to be.
00:20:24.000 They want us to be sort of disillusioned to the point where we don't trust nothing.
00:20:29.000 All right, so on that note, let me just plow on with this stuff.
00:20:36.000 So, hey, what do you think we should look at out of this lot?
00:20:39.000 Miriam Margoyles says Hitler has triumphed.
00:20:42.000 Brenier Brown on Dire of a CEO says tech elites prioritize deep thinking for their kids while others are pushed towards passive consumption.
00:20:49.000 Yeah, that seems pretty good.
00:20:50.000 Ilan Omar faces demand to hand over communications in $250 million Feeding Our Future fraud probe.
00:20:57.000 Vladimir Pune condemns Kirk's death, praising his defense of traditional values.
00:21:02.000 Yeah, what do we belong to now?
00:21:03.000 And Trump asks a kid if he thinks he could take him in a fight.
00:21:07.000 I mean, how can you resist that?
00:21:08.000 Let's just go with that.
00:21:09.000 I don't think we have to worry about you.
00:21:11.000 Yes, sir.
00:21:12.000 You're going to do good.
00:21:13.000 Are you a strong person?
00:21:14.000 Yes, sir.
00:21:14.000 But you think you can take me in a fight?
00:21:17.000 I think you could.
00:21:19.000 Hey, that would be embarrassing, wouldn't it?
00:21:25.000 How about you?
00:21:26.000 That would be embarrassing.
00:21:28.000 He's still pretty good.
00:21:29.000 Still good, and he's good on camera.
00:21:31.000 He goes, No, now let's have a look at him doing some dancing.
00:21:47.000 Oh, there we go.
00:21:48.000 This is where we are now.
00:21:50.000 This is where we are now.
00:21:53.000 Hey, let's see what Polymarket's saying.
00:21:55.000 Who will follow Trump in the next election?
00:21:57.000 People seem to think he'll be JD Vance, maybe Newsom.
00:22:00.000 What about the French election?
00:22:03.000 There you go.
00:22:03.000 Bet on real world events at Polymarket.
00:22:07.000 Okay, where shall we take this, fellas?
00:22:09.000 Should we jump into a big topic or should we keep sort of just grazing through this stuff?
00:22:14.000 I do like old Brene Brown.
00:22:16.000 You've interviewed her a couple of times, huh?
00:22:18.000 I love her.
00:22:19.000 She was pretty great.
00:22:21.000 She was pretty great.
00:22:21.000 You know, like, what I liked about Brene Brown is, well, firstly, when I met her, she was really beautiful and lovely and enchanting.
00:22:30.000 And see, everyone now talks about vulnerability and, like, the through vulnerability, you kind of get power.
00:22:37.000 It's not very easy to do that when it's actually happening, when you're actually feeling vulnerable and weak, and then you have to sort of stand up and talk.
00:22:45.000 Like, we were at an event for Joby.
00:22:47.000 You know, we really love Joby Weeks, the Bitcoin entrepreneur.
00:22:51.000 Under house arrest now for six, seven years.
00:22:53.000 And we went to what I'm going to call a kind of crazy event.
00:22:57.000 I mean, it was unusual, wasn't it, Dave?
00:22:59.000 I mean, we'd only been there 10 seconds of people who were offering us lightsabers and smoking joints, you know, sort of downstairs outside that.
00:23:07.000 It was one of those Trump buildings.
00:23:08.000 It was a weird mix because you had a lot of people there who were almost like networking type event.
00:23:14.000 So it was kind of that static business.
00:23:17.000 But then they're walking around like, you said it was like the Star Wars bar.
00:23:22.000 Yeah, not just because of the Jedi's, but because everyone there was really quite eclectic.
00:23:26.000 Our friend Deepak was there, covered in sequins.
00:23:29.000 I mean, it's not Met Gala level, but there were some people wearing some unusual outfits.
00:23:33.000 There was a lot of flesh on show.
00:23:36.000 But really, I think when it really peaked was when this guy came over to me and said, Listen, I've got to let you know that woman over there is a witch and she's trying to put a spell on you.
00:23:48.000 And we said it in the same sort of way that if it was like a threat from an assailant, Like how you got to watch over there at three o'clock, there's a person that's armed.
00:23:56.000 He sort of said it in that same way.
00:23:58.000 Now, that I wasn't mad about coming to Christ is the belief in the supernatural.
00:24:06.000 And scripture is full of false idolatry and spells and magicians and wizards and stuff.
00:24:11.000 So when someone says someone's putting a curse on you, there's still enough of me that's like, I don't believe in things like that.
00:24:16.000 You know, there's quite a lot of me that sort of just naturally thinks, that's rhubarb, witches, these things are hocus pocus.
00:24:24.000 You know, once you are surrendering to the supernatural, you're saying, I don't understand the mystery.
00:24:28.000 And the way this guy told me it, I was like, whoa.
00:24:31.000 And then I looked at the woman that had been adjudged a witch, and it was a bit kind of, she was looking at me in a pretty crazy way.
00:24:38.000 Not witchy.
00:24:39.000 It was witchy.
00:24:41.000 It was Wishy Woman.
00:24:42.000 And then, Dave, you take over now.
00:24:45.000 Well, so I had walked before he came over to you.
00:24:49.000 I was walking over there.
00:24:50.000 I was in this back corner area.
00:24:53.000 And I'm stepping around her.
00:24:55.000 And as I'm stepping around her, she just kicks me in the shin like hard.
00:25:01.000 That was amazing.
00:25:03.000 I thought it caught me off guard where I was like, what?
00:25:07.000 I mean, like purposely kicked me in the shin hard.
00:25:10.000 And I thought, maybe.
00:25:13.000 Did I. Get close to stepping on her foot or something, and maybe she's just having a bad day.
00:25:19.000 I didn't really know, but then when you came over, I knew exactly which woman it was.
00:25:23.000 I got a witch move.
00:25:24.000 That's a witch move.
00:25:25.000 Well, a shin kick.
00:25:26.000 Oh, yeah.
00:25:27.000 I feel like that's in there somewhere.
00:25:28.000 Of course it is.
00:25:30.000 That's witch or a pointy little witch boot.
00:25:33.000 A little straight in the shins.
00:25:36.000 Dave had to take the role of the armor bearer while I wasn't there.
00:25:39.000 So, did you take the spell for him?
00:25:42.000 Maybe I did.
00:25:43.000 I don't know.
00:25:44.000 I mean, If I'm you, I'd be like, hey, I don't need any more curses.
00:25:48.000 Yeah, that's enough cursing.
00:25:50.000 I mean, actually, I prayed right there and then and repudiated and rebuked all demonic and evil forces.
00:25:54.000 It's interesting, isn't it?
00:25:55.000 Because I suppose since coming to the Lord, you know, as a person who's always enjoyed and taken seriously your David Icke and your Alex Jones and people that talk about demonic forces and dark power and dark energy, and then seeing how that matches scripture.
00:26:12.000 I don't know.
00:26:12.000 However, you approach it, do you approach it from a pantheistic perspective?
00:26:17.000 Obviously, if you're a Christian, you approach from a Christian perspective.
00:26:19.000 Unless you are an out and out naturalist that doesn't believe in anything, I don't believe in anything unless I can measure it and see it.
00:26:28.000 Unless I can measure it and see it.
00:26:29.000 But then I wonder what people do with the placebo effect.
00:26:34.000 The very idea, check this out.
00:26:36.000 The reason you have double blind experiments and double blind clinical trials is because if anyone given a medication is told with a pure placebo, hey, this is going to make you run faster and make your penis bigger.
00:26:51.000 In like 20% of cases, people will just do it.
00:26:54.000 Like the placebo effect has a margin of up to between 20 and 25%.
00:26:58.000 Sorry, I'm doing this mime now when I've just said the penis thing.
00:27:00.000 Like the placebo effect has a 20 to 25% inference rate.
00:27:05.000 So, isn't it curious and interesting that consciousness itself is impacting and affecting reality in a measurable way?
00:27:15.000 That's why you have double blind testing.
00:27:17.000 So that you, because if the person administering a drug knows that that's the actual drug, Or the placebo, the people or the recipient of it know it nullifies the results because people will behave in a.
00:27:29.000 So it's kind of, in a way, when you believe in the supernatural, all you're really saying is, I believe in a reality that goes beyond what's measurable within the realm of the senses.
00:27:42.000 That's the sort of entry point.
00:27:44.000 And then if you believe in any particular ideology, it's giving you a vocabulary for it and examples of it and all that kind of stuff.
00:27:51.000 And then if you're actually out and about, Just trying to attend a Bitcoin event to campaign for the freedom of dear old Joe B. Weeks, a man who should be freed, a very sort of brilliant and entrepreneurial man who's done no real discernible crime, as far as I can work out.
00:28:04.000 And then you encounter actual shin kicking witches booting about the place, casting out hexes.
00:28:10.000 It's interesting.
00:28:11.000 It's interesting.
00:28:13.000 And as Tucker Carlson always says, you know, when you're around powerful people, they're all into some crazy stuff.
00:28:18.000 They believe in things, they believe in dark, weird occultist power.
00:28:22.000 Something's going on.
00:28:23.000 And all this to say, here's Brene Brown.
00:28:27.000 Talking about how the practical application of this is like tech elites, and we've known this for some time, I suppose.
00:28:34.000 You know, like while our kids are staring at screens, dumbing themselves into giddy idiocy, the most powerful people in the world are protecting their children from it.
00:28:43.000 Like Dave has to protect me from little witch kicks.
00:28:46.000 But let me tell you what scares me the most.
00:28:50.000 I'm in some weird rooms because of the nature of my job.
00:28:53.000 I'm in rooms where the people who run these platforms and, you know, that own the CEOs of these businesses and the founders are in these rooms.
00:29:01.000 And I hear them talking and I hear things that are so misaligned that it panics me.
00:29:09.000 So I hear someone say, Hey, you know, tech billionaire, what should my kids study?
00:29:15.000 I'm worried for my kids.
00:29:16.000 Well, they should study coding, physics, you know.
00:29:19.000 And then five minutes later, as if that answer didn't happen, someone will say, To what do you attribute your success?
00:29:26.000 I mean, deeply when you think about it.
00:29:28.000 And the same person will say, My deep reading of philosophy and the Stoics.
00:29:34.000 And so then I'm thinking to myself, well, which is it, dude?
00:29:38.000 And then I start to extrapolate from there and wonder if there is a thinking class that's emerging where they're like, we're going to read philosophy and we're going to read the liberal arts and we're going to study history.
00:29:56.000 And the rest of you just keep scrolling.
00:29:58.000 Don't worry about the big words.
00:30:00.000 We'll handle all the big words for you.
00:30:02.000 Like, it's like when they asked Steve Jobs, well, your kids must love the iPad.
00:30:09.000 Steve Jobs said, My kids don't have an iPad.
00:30:14.000 Okay, there you go.
00:30:15.000 There's some interesting insights into oligarchical classes.
00:30:19.000 Let us know what you think in the comments and chat.
00:30:20.000 If you don't have Rumble Premium yet, get Rumble Premium now.
00:30:26.000 And then his biographer, who spent time with his family, said, He wasn't kidding.
00:30:31.000 There's no technology.
00:30:32.000 At dinner, they're talking about art and history.
00:30:37.000 Hey, every Sunday, me and my wife, Laura, do a little.
00:30:42.000 Sunday service.
00:30:43.000 We talk about our journey to faith, we talk about our marriage, and we look at the Bible together.
00:30:50.000 Join me for Sunday service.
00:31:00.000 God that cannot lie promised.
00:31:03.000 Faith is not working up by willpower a sort of certainty that something is coming to pass, but it is seeing as an actual fact that God has said that this thing shall come to pass and that it is true, and then rejoicing to know that it is true and just resting because God has said it.
00:31:24.000 Faith turns the promise into a prophecy.
00:31:27.000 While it's merely a promise, it is contingent upon our cooperation.
00:31:32.000 But when faith claims it, Excuse me, it becomes a prophecy.
00:31:37.000 And we go from feeling that it is something that must be done because God cannot lie.
00:31:42.000 I hear men praying everywhere for more faith, but when I listen to them carefully and get at the real heart of their prayer, very often it is not more faith at all that they are wanting, but a change from faith to sight.
00:31:54.000 Faith says not, I see that it is good for me, so God must have sent it, but God sent it, so it must be good for me.
00:32:03.000 Faith, walking in the dark with God, Only praise him to clasp its hand more closely.
00:32:11.000 And I feel like that reading reminded me a little bit of the book of Samuel that you found something in.
00:32:18.000 What was that?
00:32:18.000 Well, I, in the week, was feeling probably like inevitably when there's a lot of attention on something, whether you're looking at it or not, it can disturb your energy.
00:32:32.000 Or like you feel it.
00:32:33.000 Yeah, like you can feel it.
00:32:34.000 The moon pulling or something.
00:32:35.000 Yeah, I do think that.
00:32:37.000 I think you can feel.
00:32:41.000 I think about this a lot, actually.
00:32:42.000 That saying, when they say, like, oh, you've got a hot ear, must mean someone's talking about you.
00:32:46.000 What's that thing again?
00:32:47.000 My ears will have been burning.
00:32:49.000 Your ears will have been burning, not you've got a hot ear.
00:32:52.000 That's not a saying.
00:32:53.000 Okay, I didn't actually, couldn't remember it.
00:32:56.000 As the old saying goes, you've got a hot ear.
00:32:59.000 I've got a hot ear.
00:33:01.000 No, you know, your ears would have been burning.
00:33:03.000 My ears were burning.
00:33:05.000 But actually.
00:33:05.000 But you aren't the person that says that.
00:33:07.000 It's like, you're like, this is it.
00:33:08.000 You're like, all right, I'll be my mum.
00:33:10.000 All right.
00:33:11.000 Hello?
00:33:12.000 Hello?
00:33:14.000 Why are you picking up Russell's phone?
00:33:16.000 Get your hands up.
00:33:19.000 She'll go like, Your ears would have been burning.
00:33:22.000 Your ears would have been burning, Russell.
00:33:24.000 We were talking about you, me, and Ange, Greg.
00:33:30.000 That's right.
00:33:31.000 And I think that, obviously, we could look into why.
00:33:34.000 Where does that come from?
00:33:35.000 I'm sure there's something.
00:33:36.000 But I genuinely do feel, and I think of that saying a lot, except for I've been thinking about it as a hot ear.
00:33:44.000 Okay, that's it.
00:33:45.000 When the ears are burning, presumably that comes from somewhere, I know that I can feel, I feel like a sense, not just because you've told me there's something on X, not just because, just because I feel like it changes, uh, the sort of ecosystem of the energy around you.
00:34:03.000 And obviously that's like, there's been a lot of eyes on us at times, you know, specifically in the three, you know, last three years.
00:34:10.000 And I could say that like you have to, you have to fight that with your own, you have to, you have to fight that.
00:34:17.000 With a spiritual fight.
00:34:18.000 It's a spiritual fight.
00:34:20.000 It's not like you have to go and read all the comments and start combating and texting and messaging people and doing.
00:34:25.000 It's not like that.
00:34:26.000 It's literally like you have to almost put your armor on.
00:34:29.000 You have to build a resilience.
00:34:31.000 You have to.
00:34:33.000 So, this is where this came from.
00:34:34.000 In the week, I was really trying to find comfort in feeling like, honestly, that the judgment, people's judgment should not affect me as a person.
00:34:45.000 I felt judged.
00:34:46.000 I felt judged.
00:34:46.000 Like you're in an ambience of.
00:34:48.000 Hot ear judgment.
00:34:49.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:34:50.000 Blazing away at the lobes.
00:34:51.000 The ears were blazing.
00:34:53.000 And I just felt like what I'm really looking for is to not feel that if you get a good text, you're in a good mood.
00:34:58.000 If you get a bad text, you're in a bad mood.
00:35:00.000 I wanted comfort against all, like, and amidst all.
00:35:04.000 Because really, otherwise, it's just, obviously, it is a roller coaster.
00:35:09.000 It is hot.
00:35:09.000 Yeah.
00:35:10.000 Oh, yeah.
00:35:11.000 Oh, my goodness.
00:35:11.000 So I was looking for comfort.
00:35:14.000 I wanted, so I'm going to read 1 Samuel 16, 7.
00:35:18.000 I'm talking about hot ears and read the quote.
00:35:21.000 I was crying.
00:35:22.000 I know, because I tell you what.
00:35:24.000 44 18 on Piers Morgan.
00:35:25.000 He wouldn't like how long I take to get to something.
00:35:36.000 Ticks!
00:35:36.000 Have you ever had a tick?
00:35:37.000 Have you ever seen a tick?
00:35:39.000 Have you ever had a tick on your skin?
00:35:41.000 Have you ever watched those things looming and blooming amidst a pet's fur?
00:35:45.000 They start off like tiny little black spiders, then they balloon themselves up, heavy little dirty filthy sacks of pet blood off their backs.
00:35:52.000 I don't like them.
00:35:53.000 Why are boxes of ticks appearing on farms all over the United States of America?
00:36:00.000 Was Lyme disease something that was designed in a lab?
00:36:03.000 Was COVID something that was made in a lab?
00:36:06.000 What's going on?
00:36:07.000 Let's look into this extraordinary story.
00:36:10.000 About ticks.
00:36:12.000 I'm out here mushroom hunting and I found there it is right there the tick box.
00:36:21.000 I'm not going to touch it because there's ticks all over that thing.
00:36:26.000 I know there is.
00:36:27.000 Look at them crawling out of it.
00:36:29.000 Millions of them.
00:36:30.000 You can see the tick.
00:36:32.000 Ugh, that's disgusting.
00:36:33.000 That's revolting.
00:36:35.000 The only thing that could make it worse if you were to discover that at some point Bill Gates funded research into genetically engineered cattle ticks.
00:36:42.000 Now, 450,000 Americans.
00:36:44.000 Have read me allergies from AlphaGal syndrome caused by tick bites.
00:36:49.000 That's the only thing that could make it more disturbing.
00:36:53.000 Now, Alex Jones, soothsayer, shaman, priestly being, for some time has been talking about genetically engineered ticks.
00:37:01.000 That don't mean, of course, that it's absolutely true and verifiable, but you'd be a fool to turn your attention away from a story like this one when we've just been through an extraordinary pandemic where a genetically modified condition shut the world down and advanced the interests of the world's most.
00:37:18.000 Powerful elites.
00:37:19.000 Let's have a look at Alex Jones on these claims that declassified documents prove that the CIA created Lyme disease at Plum Island using infected ticks and Nazi sinus.
00:37:31.000 Let me know in the comments and chat what you think about these extraordinary tick boxes appearing on farms.
00:37:36.000 It makes my skin crawl, baby.
00:37:38.000 And this Lone Star tick, suddenly just in the last decade, doesn't just bite you and give you Lyme's disease, syphilis.
00:37:44.000 No, it gives you Alpha Gal syndrome.
00:37:47.000 It's been genetically modified.
00:37:48.000 And who's on record genetically modifying ticks?
00:37:52.000 With AlphaGal in the name of studying cattle herds and things.
00:37:55.000 Bill Gates.
00:37:56.000 There it is, the tick that causes the red meat allergy.
00:37:58.000 And it's the exact one Bill Gates has been studying for over a decade and releasing into the wild, just like he's on record in Texas, in Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana, and other states, and in Brazil and a bunch of other places, releasing hundreds of millions of mosquitoes that are GMO modified to deliver vaccines for malaria and other things.
00:38:16.000 And then all it does is make you get ultra sick because they don't just try to make you and pressure you to take their COVID shots.
00:38:23.000 They're looking for ways, flying syringes, crawling syringes, ticks, to force this on the public.
00:38:30.000 These are control freaks.
00:38:30.000 They want to rape your health, rape your future.
00:38:33.000 They want to depopulate you on record because they think you're so stupid.
00:38:36.000 They brag in all these white papers and medical studies and Bill Gates statements and WEF statements about, oh, you think you're going to keep eating beef?
00:38:44.000 We're just going to weaponize into insects because they're trying it with mosquitoes and studies too, to then genetically engineer them where.
00:38:53.000 This pathogen gets into you, and then now you have an allergic reaction to any red meat.
00:38:58.000 I wish we lived in a world where you could dismiss as implausible a story like that, but you simply can't.
00:39:08.000 Here, Dr. Robert Malone, who's been on the show, who was so far ahead of the narrative when it came to COVID and COVID vaccines, perhaps because of his own involvement in the development of mRNA technology, has a comment on this, suggesting that government backed experiments involving ticks may have played a role in the spread.
00:39:27.000 Of tick borne diseases.
00:39:29.000 His claims are based on a study of declassified government documents, Cold War biological weapons records, and scientific research on tick borne infections.
00:39:37.000 Malone said the documents point to a series of experiments during the 1960s where scientists released ticks into the environment to track how they spread disease.
00:39:44.000 One of the most striking claims involves an experiment where more than 282,000 ticks were released in the US state of Virginia.
00:39:51.000 According to Malone's report, the ticks were marked with a radioactive substance known as carbon 14.
00:39:56.000 This allowed science to track the insects using Geiger counters.
00:40:00.000 Which detect radiation.
00:40:01.000 The goal of the experiment was to study how ticks move through the environment and how animals such as birds could carry them across long distances.
00:40:08.000 The ticks themselves were not radioactive in a harmful way.
00:40:11.000 Instead, the carbon 14 label similarly helped researchers to track them.
00:40:15.000 Malone believes the same areas where these experiments took place late saw a major rise in tick borne diseases, including Lyme disease.
00:40:21.000 There was a time where that would be purely the confines of the aluminum foil hat wearing brigade, but now it appears that those are the kind of stories you have to take.
00:40:33.000 So, isn't it weird that, like, just in a few moments, we look at Brene Brown, who's like a sort of a sanctioned public intellectual and public figure on that podcast, Diary of the CEO, say something that many of you will have heard before that tech elites don't allow their children to use the devices that we're casually handing over to our kids.
00:40:33.000 Seriously.
00:40:52.000 Like, that's a very sort of normal, ubiquitous idea that's somewhat verifiable, like that you sort of know in your half heart, oh, it's not good that my kids are looking at those screens.
00:41:01.000 You sort of feel it.
00:41:02.000 There's something like Lyme disease, if you've ever sort of been around it, or perhaps you will recall the first time you got.
00:41:07.000 There was something sort of eerie and unnatural, parasitic and peculiar about his possession.
00:41:07.000 COVID.
00:41:12.000 So when I hear a story like Lyme's disease, that's genetically engineered.
00:41:16.000 There are records of experiments where mosquitoes and ticks are being released in environments, you know, like the bioweapons and scientific research are closely aligned, like when they're looking for and developing new vaccines, it's the same funding as weapon research technology.
00:41:33.000 It's so sort of plain that you would be Ill advised to dismiss it.
00:41:40.000 You'd be more foolish to dismiss it than to explore it, even though if you do explore it, certainly publicly, you'll be called a crackpot and a lunatic still to this day.
00:41:49.000 It's kind of terrifying.
00:41:51.000 Dave, mate, when you're.
00:41:54.000 What are you thinking about these ticks, baby?
00:41:58.000 You can't, you're right.
00:41:59.000 You can't completely dismiss it nowadays.
00:42:02.000 I mean, when you read some, you see some light and you think, ah, I don't know, that's drawing a lot of conclusions and.
00:42:08.000 They're maybe making a jump, and then you're like, well, but I mean, look at COVID.
00:42:13.000 Yeah.
00:42:14.000 Yeah.
00:42:15.000 It's not very easy or wise anymore to dismiss as propaganda and lies stories that seem increasingly plausible.
00:42:25.000 Even though me, I can't keep carrying what I feel like is, oh God, another thing now ticks, mosquitoes.
00:42:32.000 So, like, it's a sort of a, I reckon that the system can kind of accommodate a certain level of a quite significant level of dissent.
00:42:42.000 Because it's all so sort of bewildering, it's hard to take it seriously.
00:42:45.000 How are you navigating here now, Jake?
00:42:48.000 I mean, in my house, anything we try to eat seems to have something wrong with it.
00:42:52.000 Allie's like on top of it.
00:42:54.000 My wife, she's just like, don't eat it.
00:42:57.000 No, it's got this in it.
00:42:58.000 So we kind of all feel like, what can we do?
00:43:01.000 Yeah.
00:43:01.000 Yeah, I still participate in these like Maha calls, you know, like the campaign and activist group that supported Secretary Kennedy when he was running as an independent.
00:43:12.000 And Now, continue to ensure that there is at least some positive media coverage available for Secretary Kennedy.
00:43:23.000 You know, that's because there's aspects of it that are simple.
00:43:26.000 Like, can you grow food organically?
00:43:30.000 Is that possible?
00:43:31.000 Is it possible to grow food locally?
00:43:34.000 Is it possible to rear animals in a way that's not got all manner of hormonal intervention?
00:43:40.000 And you would think that something as simple as transparency and clarity around medications, transparency and clarity around food, being able to somewhat control what's going into your food source.
00:43:51.000 You'd think these things would be like that.
00:43:54.000 One of the reasons I suppose I sort of remain optimistic about the Maha movement is it's not about religion, it's not about ideology, it's about things that affect everybody what you eat and medicine.
00:44:07.000 But like, it's to try and leverage any kind of interventions near impossible, like such little victories.
00:44:13.000 We've managed to get this one die out of the food supply.
00:44:17.000 And when you talk to Ron Paul, did you see our conversation with Dr. Ron Paul?
00:44:23.000 It's like you really need.
00:44:26.000 Particular constitution to live in this world and to sort of remain open hearted and optimistic.
00:44:32.000 And I don't know how people are doing it.
00:44:34.000 I think the point he said in that interview was when he was in his neighborhood and looking at where he lived locally, he felt good about people, which we ultimately in smaller communities, I don't feel like, oh, I hate all these people around me where I live.
00:44:50.000 It's when you see too much that you're not supposed to see.
00:44:52.000 And I think the same thing is probably true for food.
00:44:55.000 Convenience can't be the main.
00:44:58.000 Goal, and just because it's you know, for I have six kids, they always want to grab something easy out of the pantry, but maybe we're looking at it wrong, you know.
00:45:08.000 Well, yeah, certainly the one thing that is continues to be comforting and inspiring is when you're actually around human beings, it's not the same as living in the thin, desperate online world.
00:45:22.000 When we went to the crazy, witch infested Jeffrey Joby Weeks event the other day.
00:45:29.000 I met some people that are working on technology that can transform waste into energy.
00:45:40.000 And what I feel like is the, you know, aside from one's personal investigation in being able to sustain yourself through spiritual nutrition, for me, like following Jesus, like I feel like if there's any political solution at all, it has to be based on exactly what you just said, Jake the ability to meaningfully live in a community.
00:46:04.000 Like to be able to say, well, this community, we're going to eat this food and we're going to sustain ourselves in these ways.
00:46:11.000 I actually think that you can't penetrate or go through this system anymore.
00:46:16.000 I think it converts everything.
00:46:17.000 In fact, that's what I was going to say about Banksy.
00:46:19.000 Like that, whether it's punk or hip hop or any peripheral art movement, as soon as it is effective, it becomes co opted and controlled and commodified.
00:46:30.000 Nothing can remain truly anti establishment for long, because the establishment will either destroy it.
00:46:38.000 Or assimilate it, and so the only route to change is decentralization.
00:46:44.000 As long as this system exists, it will sustain itself above all else.
00:46:48.000 And it's so radical and mad that you can't rule out that ticks are being released into farms, diseases are being engineered that, uh that inhibit you, control you, affect you or reduce your efficacy.
00:47:00.000 The food supply is being annihilated that it's so um diabolical it's almost hard to contemplate where its outer edges might be.
00:47:09.000 So It's hard not to advocate for a kind of just get out of here.
00:47:13.000 Just burn your sm, do what the people who understand do.
00:47:17.000 Don't operate within, don't operate on social media.
00:47:20.000 Don't let your kids have fun.
00:47:21.000 Phones eat food that where you know that where you can recognize where it's come from and how it's been grown, you know, unless we start investigating those kind of things seriously, radically, and immediately, we're in serious trouble.
00:47:31.000 But that's just what I think.
00:47:32.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
00:47:34.000 We can't make this content without the support of our partners.
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00:47:39.000 Maybe then I'll just do this vaccine medicine thing.
00:47:42.000 Yeah, that's good.
00:47:43.000 And then we're that study from about 10 years ago where Bill Gates was releasing witches, he's genetically engineering witches, Bill Gates is, and then just releasing them out in the Parties, random parties, kicking people.
00:47:58.000 That's what they do.
00:47:58.000 They've got genetically engineered booties and they will kick you.
00:48:02.000 So Dave's got something.
00:48:04.000 He'll be carrying that right.
00:48:04.000 He's caught.
00:48:06.000 His shins, you should see them now.
00:48:08.000 They're absolutely crawling with limes.
00:48:14.000 Okay, over medicalization.
00:48:17.000 Are you depressed?
00:48:19.000 I'm not surprised.
00:48:20.000 But maybe even your government prescribed, pharmacologically approved antidepressants.
00:48:26.000 Are making things worse.
00:48:28.000 Certainly, that's part of the conversation now because one of the victories, ongoing victories of 2024, 2025, is the contribution of Secretary Kennedy when it comes to the debate around big pharma and the ability of ordinary folks to oppose it.
00:48:41.000 Here he is now talking about the over medicalization crisis.
00:48:46.000 Let's have a look.
00:48:47.000 The United States does not just face a mental health crisis, we face a dependency crisis driven by over medicalization.
00:48:56.000 The data is clear one in six American adults. takes an antidepressant.
00:49:01.000 One in 10 children are on prescription medication for their mental health.
00:49:07.000 30% of college students report using psychiatric medications in the past year.
00:49:12.000 And in nursing homes, more than half of the residents are on prescribed antidepressants.
00:49:20.000 That's not a marginal issue.
00:49:21.000 This is a system level pattern.
00:49:25.000 Too many patients begin treatment without a clear understanding of the risks.
00:49:30.000 And how long they will stay on these drugs or how to come off of them.
00:49:35.000 And that's not informed consent.
00:49:37.000 We are going to fix it.
00:49:40.000 Oh, man, how do people keep it up?
00:49:43.000 Hey, so I've taken SSRIs.
00:49:46.000 I've been prescribed all manner of medication when I was younger.
00:49:49.000 Now I try not to take anything at all, except the sweet, sweet glories of Mephylene Blue to get the old mitochondria functioning good.
00:49:57.000 You, Dave, you have to take drugs to cope?
00:50:00.000 No, I don't take them now, but I've taken them before.
00:50:03.000 I don't.
00:50:05.000 I have seen a couple cases where it helped for a time.
00:50:10.000 Or just to incubate you from suicide, maybe.
00:50:12.000 Yeah, honestly.
00:50:13.000 Yeah.
00:50:14.000 What are you saying, mate?
00:50:14.000 What about you, Massy?
00:50:17.000 Yeah, I had a tinnitus once and I went to the doctors about it.
00:50:21.000 And first thing he did was go, just gave me some SSRIs.
00:50:24.000 He was like, I'll just take these.
00:50:25.000 It might go away.
00:50:27.000 So I did a bit more research into it.
00:50:28.000 And he didn't ask any questions.
00:50:30.000 I had like a problem with a nerve in my neck.
00:50:32.000 So when I moved my neck, the tinnitus went away.
00:50:34.000 He didn't ask me any of the questions on this.
00:50:36.000 He was like, Just take this powerful mind drug, you may kill yourself.
00:50:39.000 He gives you just get out of my office, and there's one for Pfizer.
00:50:42.000 I couldn't believe it, just they just hand them out like nothing.
00:50:45.000 But that's the Western medical system.
00:50:48.000 Wow, what about you, mate?
00:50:49.000 All natural, baby, all natural, all all day.
00:50:53.000 Yeah, never took anything.
00:50:55.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:50:56.000 I'm I've taken like heroin actually, not today, but like, uh, it's it's really extraordinary.
00:51:07.000 Your country, I mean, America.
00:51:10.000 He's right, your Secretary of Health and Human Services, when he says there's an over medicalization, there is an appetite to prescribe.
00:51:19.000 And yeah, obviously, it goes beyond America, but it's pretty vivid here.
00:51:23.000 Here, Kennedy, who's himself in recovery, compares heroin and SSRI withdrawal.
00:51:29.000 I feel like he's saying that SSRI is worse to withdraw from heroin.
00:51:33.000 It's not that bad, heroin withdrawal, after the first 48 hours.
00:51:36.000 Yeah, the first little bit.
00:51:39.000 But then you're pretty much clear after that it's the mental.
00:51:41.000 After that, it's just a mental dependency.
00:51:44.000 Really, once it's out of your system, 48 hours, you should be.
00:51:48.000 I mean, it's just that really, why were you taking heroin in the first place?
00:51:51.000 Well, because.
00:51:52.000 I'm in total despair.
00:51:54.000 Why?
00:51:55.000 Because I've realized that life is futile and we're in a terrible, terrible, terrible and corrupt system.
00:52:02.000 Is it like train spotting, the withdrawal scene and that with the baby on the ceiling and stuff like that?
00:52:08.000 No, I didn't get no hallucinations.
00:52:10.000 I'd have liked that.
00:52:11.000 I'd have sustained that happily.
00:52:13.000 No, for me, it's the kicky legs, it's the hot and cold, not being able to get the right temperature.
00:52:18.000 That's what it was like for me.
00:52:19.000 What about you, Dave?
00:52:20.000 Extreme, restless, irritable discontent.
00:52:22.000 Yeah, they're kicky legs.
00:52:24.000 Now, a lot of people, I think, bail on that and take some heroin.
00:52:28.000 I drank and smoked weed for the first couple that I did.
00:52:31.000 When you do it without any other drugs, oh man, that's a nightmare.
00:52:34.000 It also depends how long they've been on it, the extent of it.
00:52:38.000 And I think IV users get it a little bit worse just because they've gotten more potent.
00:52:43.000 But I will say alcohol and benzos are notoriously a lot worse.
00:52:50.000 Nicotine's no fun to withdraw from.
00:52:53.000 Caffeine, like my wife, like when we were on this trip just now to Miami, she was so, like, she was like, in the morning, she was like ill.
00:53:01.000 So I was like, Have you drank, when did you last drink coffee?
00:53:04.000 And she was like, It was over 24 hours.
00:53:05.000 I guess you ain't actual, you're in withdrawal, you poor, desperate junkie of a woman.
00:53:11.000 Here's Secretary Kennedy comparing SSRI and heroin withdrawal.
00:53:18.000 Let's check.
00:53:20.000 I happen to be an actual expert on this because.
00:53:25.000 I was addicted to heroin for 14 years.
00:53:27.000 I never wanted to be.
00:53:29.000 Oh, I was constantly getting off.
00:53:31.000 I mean, the world has changed, doesn't it?
00:53:33.000 You could have the Secretary of Health and Human Services say, I'm actually an expert.
00:53:38.000 I was addicted to heroin.
00:53:39.000 Well, get the fuck out, you mad junkie.
00:53:43.000 That's actual progress.
00:53:44.000 And then getting back on.
00:53:46.000 And I went through cold turkey withdrawal probably over 100 times.
00:53:51.000 And so I know what it's like.
00:53:52.000 And it's not fun.
00:53:54.000 But it is limited, it is finite in time.
00:54:00.000 After 72 hours, it's over.
00:54:02.000 So you just have to steal yourself for 72 bad hours.
00:54:06.000 But I've watched people come off of SSRIs, and it is not even comparable.
00:54:13.000 And I watched a family member get off of them after a couple years on them, and she was suicidal literally every day.
00:54:23.000 She woke up every morning and said, I don't want to live.
00:54:27.000 And she said, The only reason I'm staying alive is for you guys, for the family.
00:54:33.000 And that's heartbreaking to hear from a family member.
00:54:38.000 And I've heard that from hundreds and hundreds of people.
00:54:43.000 The same story again and again.
00:54:46.000 It can be prolonged, and for many patients, it's completely unexpected.
00:54:51.000 And the physicians handle this by saying, oh, this is your original symptom, reasserting yourself, you need to get back on the SSRIs.
00:55:02.000 And they get locked in a lifetime cycle that is, that for many patients is absolutely cataclysmic.
00:55:10.000 This is a system failure.
00:55:14.000 I feel a pretty encouraging level of vulnerability and honesty from a powerful political figure.
00:55:23.000 I suppose we spend so.
00:55:24.000 You love him.
00:55:24.000 Yeah, I love him.
00:55:26.000 I love him.
00:55:27.000 I think out of the whole crew, he's the most legit.
00:55:32.000 Before, when all this was happening, that election, Tulsi Gabbard, I remember thinking, this is a sincere and beautiful person.
00:55:39.000 Bobby Kennedy, I know him to be a beautiful and sincere person.
00:55:43.000 And I reckon it's an indication of the inexhaustible appetite of the machine that Tulsi Gabbard didn't see her so much now and don't hear from her so much.
00:55:52.000 And I guess there's a singularity of purpose to a degree in what Bobby Kennedy is doing that means that he's not going to be involved in every single issue all of the time.
00:56:03.000 He's got a particular portfolio, doesn't he?
00:56:06.000 But you see how hard it is for him to get stuff done.
00:56:09.000 I mean, you have someone, I think he genuinely wants to just help people be healthy.
00:56:15.000 Yeah.
00:56:15.000 He genuinely does.
00:56:16.000 Yeah.
00:56:17.000 And especially kids.
00:56:19.000 I mean, he's really focused on the next generations to come and like how hard it is for him to get things through, and he's doing his best.
00:56:28.000 Yeah.
00:56:28.000 I think he's an amazing example of what can be achieved through great leadership, but also an example of what can't be achieved because of systemic bias and resistance.
00:56:42.000 I reckon that the kind of vulnerability that he just role modeled is really, really important.
00:56:48.000 Honest conversations about addiction, clarity around how dangerous the normalization of that kind of high pharmacology is that people like that.
00:56:58.000 He just said what he gave the statistics.
00:57:00.000 All of these people that are dealing with it, and it's an industry that's already been on numerous occasions exposed as extraordinarily and almost unimaginably corrupt.
00:57:10.000 The opioid crisis, what we've learned since the pandemic.
00:57:15.000 It's interesting.
00:57:16.000 Every day is another spur for revolution, a revolution that.
00:57:22.000 Don't seem to be coming, but I suppose we're not in charge of it, huh?
00:57:28.000 We're just sort of people on a stream.
00:57:31.000 We're in it.
00:57:33.000 We're in it.
00:57:33.000 It's coming.
00:57:35.000 It's coming.
00:57:35.000 Well, okay.
00:57:36.000 Well, listen, let's be heartened by Secretary Kennedy's honest admission that he himself knows what it's like to withdraw from heroin and his openness and vulnerability about a family member coming off SSRI.
00:57:48.000 It's a ubiquitous problem that whoever you are, you likely know someone that's dealing with either addiction to.
00:57:55.000 Illicit drugs or prescribed drugs, and in the end, all of those people are dealing with pain and emptiness and despair and lack of purpose.
00:58:03.000 And there is a solution, the 12 steps work.
00:58:05.000 I wish we were doing crack on this week now, but our beloved Joe is estranged out there, lost in the universe.
00:58:12.000 We'll do more of those crack ons.
00:58:14.000 And if you are suffering from addiction, please know at least this there is hope, there is a way out, and there is a spiritual solution.
00:58:20.000 It's the only solution that I know and is available to you, it's available to all of us.
00:58:25.000 So, there is.
00:58:26.000 There is a fuel and an energy and a possibility of change.
00:58:28.000 But that's just what I think.
00:58:29.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
00:58:33.000 We will be back on Monday for a conversation with Jeremiah Johnson, theologian, Christian, historian, who's going to talk us through some artifacts that he believes demonstrate the historical veracity of Jesus Christ.
00:58:45.000 Who some say there is more evidence for his historical existence than Alexander the Great or Julius Caesar.
00:58:51.000 No one's questioning those guys.
00:58:53.000 Anyway, we'll be back, not with more of the same, but with more of the different on Monday.
00:58:57.000 Till then, if you can, stay free.