Stay Free - Russel Brand - William Hartung (Exposing the War Profiteers)

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00:00:15.000 Today we will be revealing yet more about the FBI lies of Jan 6.

00:00:19.000 I can't believe it.

00:00:20.000 Are we going to talk about that?

00:00:22.000 Yeah, we certainly are.

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00:00:47.000 Can we build a new Jerusalem here in cyberspace? 0.99

00:00:52.000 Of course we bloody well didn't.

00:00:54.000 Now, what about this?

00:00:55.000 There's more revelations about... I'm sorry to say this.

00:00:59.000 I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there's more revelations about Bill Gates and Epstein and blackmail.

00:01:05.000 This comes from a mainstream media source.

00:01:07.000 I do sometimes think, like, whoever Murdered.

00:01:12.000 Allegedly.

00:01:13.000 Epstein.

00:01:14.000 Like, unless he just died how they said he died.

00:01:16.000 Allegedly.

00:01:17.000 But they say he's impaled himself on a spear.

00:01:21.000 Like, blew up his head like Wiley Karate in a cell somewhere.

00:01:25.000 Official report.

00:01:26.000 The official report by Mr. Wile E. Coyote, he hung himself on an endless shoelace!

00:01:33.000 Allegedly!

00:01:34.000 Like, whoever it was that did that, they're good at mur... I'd say, if it were that he were murdered, it would have to be someone who's very good at murdering people under difficult and tricky circumstances, because they weren't able to get someone into that high security... Murder, get out, no one found out about it.

00:01:47.000 So anyway, so we've got more... Well, you're discounting the inside job there.

00:01:50.000 What do you mean inside?

00:01:51.000 Yeah, we'd have to get someone on the inside, but I'm saying they've got good reach.

00:01:54.000 Absolutely.

00:01:55.000 Very good reach.

00:01:56.000 Very, very, very good reach.

00:01:57.000 If that happened, yes, they would have.

00:01:59.000 Politically.

00:02:01.000 We're going to be talking about, on our presentation, Here's the News, we're talking about Elon and, ironically, conspiracy theories.

00:02:08.000 And his assertion that many of these conspiracy theories under scrutiny and analysis are not conspiracy theories at all, rather dissenting views that are outside the mainstream establishment narrative, which, of course, Ultimately, it always ends up being about centralising authority and being able to control financial outcomes and assert dominion.

00:02:29.000 There's a blackout on Biden's business bombshells, baby.

00:02:33.000 Did you know that?

00:02:34.000 Well, not on this channel though, right?

00:02:35.000 We'll be talking about it.

00:02:36.000 Also, we've got William Hartung, baby, exposing corruption in the military-industrial complex.

00:02:41.000 I know some of you are doing a drinking game where every time I say military-industrial complex, you have a drink and some of you are suffering from alcoholism.

00:02:49.000 As a result, because I'm always going on about it.

00:02:51.000 Well, I'm so sorry for telling the truth, Theo, about important stuff.

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00:03:14.000 I know I am.

00:03:15.000 It's early in California.

00:03:16.000 Epstein was a tour for the... Ooh, no, no, CIA.

00:03:20.000 Allegedly.

00:03:20.000 You can't say that, can they?

00:03:22.000 Can they say that?

00:03:23.000 You've just described exactly how he was potentially murdered.

00:03:25.000 I don't think that... Allegedly.

00:03:28.000 Look, I'm trying to... Whatever they said, that's probably what happened.

00:03:33.000 That is probably what happened.

00:03:35.000 So, listen, he probably ended his own life after a difficult day down in the old...

00:03:42.000 I think... - Look...

00:03:44.000 You're gonna have to move off... - Are we gonna...

00:03:45.000 Can we stay on YouTube? - We're gonna have to save this now.

00:03:47.000 'Cause I've got stuff to say.

00:03:48.000 Did you know that the BBC have started a new verification wing

00:03:51.000 that they're presenting like it's some sort of colourful Teletubbies deli...

00:03:55.000 "Oh, we're gonna be verifying you" and stuff like that, funded by...

00:03:59.000 in extraordinary ways.

00:04:00.000 We'll talk about that when we leave YouTube in a second, not indefinitely.

00:04:03.000 we will always remain there to support you our 6.4 million.

00:04:07.000 But, before we get into William Hartung exposing corruption from, you guessed it, military-industrial conflicts.

00:04:12.000 Skol! 1.00

00:04:13.000 We're going to talk to you a little bit about some fun news.

00:04:20.000 You know Buddy Boy Teixeira?

00:04:22.000 Some people call him that.

00:04:22.000 He's a little lad.

00:04:24.000 He's only about this big.

00:04:25.000 What he done was he went on a chat room Well, they're discrediting him like nuts over on Jake Tipper's CNN show.

00:04:31.000 Well they're discrediting him like nuts over on Jake Tipper's CNN show.

00:04:37.000 Let's have a look.

00:04:38.000 A Massachusetts judge deciding that 21 year old airman Jack Tashira will stay behind bars

00:04:45.000 Tashira charged with leaking troves of sensitive classified data.

00:04:48.000 Troves of treasure words are sneaking in.

00:04:51.000 I'm hearing a lot of words like treasure, piracy, argh, gym lad.

00:04:56.000 All of it sneaking into the mainstream lexicon.

00:04:58.000 There are also terms like sensitive information, but at no point does he say, which we should probably have access to some of that sensitive information.

00:05:06.000 Especially if it relates to uh this ongoing war this war that you're paying for that you're funding did you want to know about it or should we just just do what we want now we'll focus on the things that he has done look how little he is he's only about that big look that's that's him if he was stood there he'd only be as high as he was in that picture a little limpet of a lad it's online in addition he was allegedly not particularly shy about his love of guns and racist and anti-semitic views now air force memos show

00:05:35.000 Of guns and anti-semitic views.

00:05:37.000 I love these views of mine, he says to himself in his consciousness.

00:05:44.000 I feel like if you are, like, in the military and you have to warn one of your subordinates more than once, actually.

00:05:56.000 I think so.

00:05:57.000 Like, they're not cut out for life in the military.

00:06:00.000 In the military, as you know, remember I was in the Marines that day.

00:06:03.000 Now, one of the things we prided ourselves on, me and the other Marines, was our discipline.

00:06:08.000 That's right.

00:06:10.000 You didn't leak one file that day, I remember.

00:06:12.000 I leaked a couple of files, Cal.

00:06:13.000 I popped out and leaked a couple of files to some of the others.

00:06:16.000 Right, I wasn't aware of that.

00:06:17.000 But, by God, if my Sergeant Major said jump, I'd say ha-hi. 1.00

00:06:21.000 I know.

00:06:21.000 If he said jump, I'm like, ha-hi?

00:06:23.000 Yeah.

00:06:24.000 Straight away back to him, that's what I'm saying.

00:06:25.000 Not like Buddy Boy Tech's error.

00:06:26.000 No.

00:06:26.000 Three warnings they gave him, he's still leaking all over the gaff.

00:06:30.000 Yeah.

00:06:30.000 He's leaking like Joe Biden's catheter!

00:06:33.000 Allegedly.

00:06:34.000 We don't even know that he's got one, do we?

00:06:36.000 No, we don't.

00:06:36.000 And if he did have one, he'd probably have it all screwed up nicely, wouldn't he?

00:06:39.000 Because his missus is a doctor.

00:06:40.000 You'd take care of things like that, wouldn't you?

00:06:41.000 Sure.

00:06:42.000 Allegedly.

00:06:42.000 Of course you would.

00:06:44.000 The thing about that report... Have you got something important to say, mate?

00:06:46.000 Well, it's not... I guess I don't know if it's important, but that's exactly what they do, doesn't it?

00:06:50.000 They focus on... I mean, even when they're mentioning his love of guns, it's like, let's focus on the individual and the things that we can dig up about him that may or may not be true, rather than the actual things that he had to say.

00:07:01.000 Anti-Semitism is wrong.

00:07:02.000 Focus on antisemitism rather than revelations.

00:07:07.000 I have a little saying that I learned from people that have educated me.

00:07:10.000 Principles, not personalities.

00:07:12.000 Don't get infatuated by personalities.

00:07:14.000 Think of the principles and the values behind them.

00:07:16.000 Authenticity, sincerity, truthfulness, honour, valour, service.

00:07:21.000 These are all important ideas.

00:07:23.000 Especially in the bouncy castle business, Gal.

00:07:26.000 Bouncy castles!

00:07:26.000 Mainly, I would say.

00:07:28.000 That's where they emanate from.

00:07:29.000 That's the epicentre of those values.

00:07:31.000 In America, you call them jump castles or jump parties.

00:07:34.000 What do you call them?

00:07:35.000 Let us know in the chat.

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00:07:37.000 Tell us the answer to that question.

00:07:39.000 In England, we call them bouncy castles.

00:07:41.000 Bouncy.

00:07:42.000 I don't know what you call them in America.

00:07:44.000 In a minute, we're going to be talking about the FBI suspending free whistleblowers who simply wanted to tell you the truth about January 6th.

00:07:49.000 If you're watching this thinking, why is this guy talking about jump castles?

00:07:54.000 In a minute you'll be thinking, why is this guy telling us some hard home truth about the infiltration of January 6th protests by CIA assets?

00:08:04.000 Allegedly!

00:08:05.000 Potentially across deep state agencies, numbering in the hundreds.

00:08:09.000 That's allegedly... Allegedly!

00:08:10.000 For now.

00:08:11.000 That's allegedly for now, but it's important information and given that the FBI are treating these whistleblowers appallingly.

00:08:18.000 Stay free with Russell Brand.

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00:08:22.000 You might be wondering when I'm next going to mention the Military-Industrial Complex.

00:08:26.000 It's in a matter of seconds because I'm being joined by William Hartung, author of Prophets of War, Lockheed Martin and the making of, yeah you guessed it guys, get ready for a drink, the Military-Industrial Complex.

00:08:38.000 Hello there William, thanks so much for joining us.

00:08:44.000 ...and stop standing in front of a background that's the same color as your shirt.

00:08:48.000 You'll look like a head floating in space, like a Lockheed Martin missile soaring terrifyingly through the sky.

00:08:54.000 Now before you critique Raytheon and Northrop Grumman, you should learn how to at least unmute yourself.

00:09:00.000 Otherwise, you give them the advantage, sir!

00:09:04.000 Is your mic on, darling?

00:09:06.000 Can you hear me?

00:09:07.000 Oh, perfectly well.

00:09:08.000 Thank you for joining us, William.

00:09:09.000 It's so lovely to meet you.

00:09:12.000 Yes, glad to meet you.

00:09:13.000 Hey, come on then, what's going on with the military-industrial complex? Is it driven by

00:09:17.000 greed and special interests or is it driven by national security and a desire to protect

00:09:21.000 the good people of America? Well, it hides behind the rhetoric of national security,

00:09:27.000 but it's basically a racket for picking the pockets of the taxpayers. Yes, that's interesting.

00:09:33.000 The US is the world's largest arms dealer.

00:09:35.000 How on earth have we arrived in a position where the most powerful nation on earth facilitates arms sales, even delivering them in some cases?

00:09:43.000 Which is the worst of all of the arms dealing companies and why?

00:09:48.000 Well, it's kind of a toss-up between Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.

00:09:52.000 They created the bombs that have killed thousands of civilians in Yemen. 0.90

00:09:57.000 They sell to Egypt.

00:09:58.000 They sell to Nigeria.

00:10:00.000 They sell to the Philippines.

00:10:02.000 Some of the most repressive regimes in the world, even as they try to dress themselves up as some sort of arsenal of democracy, they're actually an arsenal of dictatorships.

00:10:13.000 I see.

00:10:14.000 Can you give me that asset list guys?

00:10:15.000 I can't find that asset list.

00:10:17.000 Is it on this?

00:10:18.000 I can't find it.

00:10:19.000 The asset list for the interview with William.

00:10:22.000 It'll be good if I just give me those things so that at the top of it says William Hartung and then it's a list of the assets and questions in one place on one sheet so I can Thank you very much.

00:10:33.000 So the world's largest dance producing companies are listed there and by far and away Lockheed Martin is the greater.

00:10:40.000 What do you think is the relationship between those kind of sales and their donation strategy to, you know, say the Democrat Party but also the Republican Party and the expenditure on lobbying, William?

00:10:53.000 Well, it's directly connected.

00:10:55.000 I mean, there's some members of Congress who tried to cut off sales to Yemen, to the Philippines, other places, but the industry gave $83 million to Congress in the last two election cycles.

00:11:07.000 They have 820 lobbyists, which is more than there are members of Congress.

00:11:12.000 There's actually three or four peace lobbyists, so it's obviously not a fair fight.

00:11:17.000 While we pull up this Eisenhower quote, could you tell me about peace lobbyists, how they're funded and what their role is?

00:11:22.000 the last five US Secretaries of Defense came from weapons companies, like Raytheon, Boeing, and General Dynamics. So

00:11:30.000 this is revolving door that goes both ways. And people profit in

00:11:34.000 both sides of the equation.

00:11:35.000 While we pull up this Eisenhower quote, could you tell me about

00:11:40.000 peace lobbyists, how they're funded and what their role is?

00:11:43.000 Although, of course, I can ascertain to a degree what it might be from their name.

00:11:48.000 Well, most of them are funded by individuals.

00:11:51.000 There's groups like the Friends Committee on National Legislation.

00:11:54.000 There's the Council for a Livable World.

00:11:57.000 You know, they're fighting to reduce Pentagon spending, to cut nuclear spending, to get us out of some of these wars.

00:12:05.000 But it's an uphill fight, both, I think, because of ideology and because of just the sheer force of money on the other side.

00:12:15.000 Enoch Powell, who is often credited with inspiring much of the right-wing and ethno-nationalist rhetoric that prevails to this day, once said of Britain, you cannot have Britain without a monarchy.

00:12:29.000 Britain is fundamentally and essentially a monarchy.

00:12:32.000 Once you abolish the monarchy, you no longer have Britain.

00:12:37.000 Do you think the same could be said of the United States of America and the military-industrial complex?

00:12:42.000 Is war so integral to the economic model of the United States of America that it's unthinkable to rid America of this institution?

00:12:54.000 Well, it's not a huge part of the economy, but it's politically wired because they give money to the members of Congress who decide how much to spend on the Pentagon.

00:13:03.000 They spread their jobs all over the country.

00:13:05.000 They have lobbying.

00:13:07.000 They have advertising.

00:13:08.000 They are involved in government commissions that define what the so-called threats are.

00:13:13.000 So it's kind of a political stranglehold.

00:13:15.000 I mean, we could build another kind of economy, but it would be a heavy lift because of all these political interconnections.

00:13:24.000 What's the Quincy Institute that you're there representing, William?

00:13:29.000 We're a trans-partisan, meaning we're not affiliated with the other party.

00:13:34.000 We work with people across the spectrum.

00:13:36.000 And our basic thrust is end endless wars, more diplomacy.

00:13:42.000 And in this climate, that's a surprisingly controversial stance.

00:13:46.000 Shouldn't be, but in many quarters it is, unfortunately.

00:13:50.000 Do you find that the different conflicts have different inflections to the two parties?

00:13:57.000 Specifically, when speaking about diplomacy ending the current Russia-Ukraine conflict, do you find that that's batted back a lot by Democratic representatives and with the escalations of tensions between the US and China regarding Taiwan and semiconductors that the Republican Party seem to be agitating for conflict?

00:14:15.000 Are both parties in the business of war and are there inflections and accents within Both parties are split.

00:14:24.000 There's more Republicans critical of arming Ukraine than there are Democrats, although some progressive Democrats are at least pushing diplomacy.

00:14:32.000 On the other hand, I think both parties are fairly hawkish about China, unfortunately, at this point, which is kind of the driver of these huge Pentagon budgets, which are moving towards a trillion dollars a year, if we don't stand in the way and try to stop that.

00:14:47.000 Yeah, I see.

00:14:48.000 Do you think that we can learn anything other than certain economic affiliations from the way that they perceive these conflicts?

00:14:55.000 Is there anything to be gleaned from the distinctions that you just outlined?

00:15:01.000 Well, I think the people who are on the take, who get the campaign contributions, who have the weapons factories in their districts, tend to be pro-war on either side of the aisle.

00:15:14.000 And the ones who are less bound by that tend to be free to be more critical.

00:15:19.000 if I could just pass over to my colleague Gareth Roy who has an inquiry for you now.

00:15:23.000 Hi William, sorry about the little noise there.

00:15:32.000 I'm really interested in the way in which I guess calling for diplomacy, I guess with the current situation with Russia and Ukraine, has become an issue that is now hard to talk about even seemingly on the left.

00:15:49.000 We kind of know the ways in which The military-industrial complex kind of seems to donate equally to both parties.

00:15:57.000 We know that lobbyists, I think three, I think it's something like three quarters of lobbyists have been previously members of the government.

00:16:05.000 It's all tied up massively to make sure that these increased Pentagon budgets keep going, that money keeps filtering through to the military-industrial complex, and yet Talking about this, raising this as a possibility as to why war is continued seems to be pushed over to the fringes to the kind of almost like conspiracy theorists now to be raising these issues that used to be a left-wing talking point and I wondered what your thought is on how that has happened and maybe the influence that potentially the military industrial complex has had on that.

00:16:41.000 Well, I think the Russian invasion has just thrown everything up in the air in terms of positions on the left and right.

00:16:47.000 But what interests me is not only is the complex getting tens of billions of dollars for arming Ukraine, but of course, they pushed for NATO expansion in the 90s and have been selling U.S.

00:16:58.000 weapons all over Europe since then.

00:17:01.000 And they're trying to say, well, Ukraine shows we need more weapons, we need to Move them faster.

00:17:07.000 We need to build up, supersize the military industrial complex.

00:17:11.000 So they're seizing this moment to try to get all kinds of favors that they've wanted for years.

00:17:16.000 And much of this is not going to even affect Ukraine.

00:17:19.000 It's just going to line the pockets of the contractors.

00:17:24.000 Hey William, we've got a great question here from Achela in our chat.

00:17:28.000 She says, is POTUS really the commander-in-chief when it comes to the matters of war, or is the real commander-in-chief the person who commands the POTUS?

00:17:40.000 Well, I think he's restrained in many ways by the political climate, and the military-industrial complex helps to set that climate.

00:17:49.000 So, you know, for example, there was a commission that talked about how we weren't spending enough on the Pentagon.

00:17:57.000 And that commission was appointed by Congress.

00:17:59.000 More than half the members were consultants to the military industry, executives of the military industry, think tanks funded by the military industry.

00:18:09.000 So they have great power in shaping the parameters of debate, of shaping the environment in Congress.

00:18:16.000 So if we had a president who wanted to end every war right now, they'd be up against all that, you know, that kind of political wall they'd have to get over.

00:18:27.000 When you're engaged in matters that seem intractable like this, how does it affect your personal morality and your personal hope?

00:18:38.000 Do you feel drained occasionally by the scale of your task?

00:18:43.000 How do you feel that this will evolve and develop, the issue of trying to curtail military expenditure and agitation for unnecessary wars?

00:18:52.000 How does it affect you as a human?

00:18:55.000 Uh, well, it can be wearing for sure, but I'm kind of stubborn.

00:18:59.000 I don't want to let them get away with this.

00:19:01.000 I don't want them to be a lack of independent voices, trying to tell people what's really going on.

00:19:06.000 I think in the longer term, we can turn this around.

00:19:09.000 But day to day, sure, it can be depressing, but I'm, I'm not giving up.

00:19:15.000 I'm, you know, I'm just re-energized, if anything, because there's so much to deal with and so much to push back against.

00:19:22.000 Well, you get a bit depressed.

00:19:23.000 Do you sometimes feel a bit depressed about this?

00:19:26.000 Well, yeah, there's moments.

00:19:27.000 I mean, you know, we're up against it and it's their powerful interests and they've been, you know, getting their way in terms of money, in terms of profiting from wars and so forth.

00:19:38.000 But on the other hand, I feel a great sense of mission to try to put out alternative information.

00:19:46.000 And that is energizing.

00:19:48.000 Yeah, it is, I suppose.

00:19:51.000 Push back yourself in terms of, are you labelled as being unpatriotic and things like this?

00:19:58.000 I mean, you must get those kind of accusations for pointing these things out.

00:20:04.000 Sure, sure.

00:20:05.000 There's, you know, you get emails, you get when you have debates, people try to, you know, pin you as pro-Putin and so forth.

00:20:15.000 But I think the best way to go at it is just to dismiss that as ridiculous and, you know, make the arguments you need to make and not let it affect you.

00:20:24.000 Do you want us to send you some encouraging emails solely for the purpose of boosting your morale?

00:20:30.000 So when you open your laptop tomorrow, it'll be like loads of them, like going, yeah, go on, William!

00:20:36.000 William Hartung, using a new nickname we've developed for you, William Hartung Baby, from the name of the U2 album, deluging you with praise, sometimes bordering on sycophancy and hysteria, just to put some pep in your step as you begin your day tomorrow.

00:20:51.000 Well, I think, you know, if people went to our YouTube page, I would be thrilled, because I'm represented there at at Quincy INST.

00:21:01.000 Emails would be great.

00:21:02.000 What would be even better is my first album, you know, named Heart to Baby.

00:21:07.000 I just can't sing, but...

00:21:09.000 That doesn't matter.

00:21:10.000 As long as you can wear some sunglasses and then decades into your career claim it's for an eye condition, you are overqualified for the business.

00:21:19.000 Alright, so you can listen to William's new album, Ha Tong Baby, on his YouTube page, which is, what's it called again, William?

00:21:28.000 Ed Quincy, INST.

00:21:30.000 All our social media is on that moniker.

00:21:33.000 Post it in the chat.

00:21:34.000 We'll post all your stuff in the chat.

00:21:36.000 And also, what about William's book, Prophets of War?

00:21:39.000 That's with the PH. 0.85

00:21:41.000 Lockheed Martin and the Making of the Military-Industrial Complex.

00:21:44.000 You think Lockheed Martin is the worst one.

00:21:47.000 Have they not made anything that's good, like a telescope or something?

00:21:51.000 Well, they're the most corrupt company in the history of the military-industrial complex in terms of cost overruns, bribery, overcharging, selling to dictatorships, getting the government to subsidize their mergers.

00:22:06.000 So they're kind of a model of what not to do in terms of responsible corporation, if there is such a thing.

00:22:17.000 Yeah, and I chose them for my book because they're kind of a case study in the development of that complex and its growing power.

00:22:25.000 They, you know, get more money a year in many years than the whole State Department.

00:22:31.000 They probably get as much money as the whole military budget when I gave his military industrial complex speech.

00:22:38.000 So he couldn't have dreamed this kind of money and power, you know, when he was raising the alarm about this in the early 1960s.

00:22:48.000 Zypher2000 said we need an antitrust breakup.

00:22:52.000 NoDuggoNoCo says Profits of Profit would be a good title as well for the first book, but, you know, using the different spellings of it, but Noga Donoku did earlier say that he was going to move him to Gareth's house without first asking permission.

00:23:09.000 So, I don't know if we want him in a brainstorm.

00:23:11.000 No.

00:23:12.000 Do we, when it comes to titles?

00:23:15.000 William?

00:23:16.000 That wasn't really a question, Ross.

00:23:18.000 Sorry.

00:23:19.000 William, I feel that we've had a nice time together and I would like very much if you'd come on our show again and next time I would look at the contrast between the backdrop and your shirt and think very carefully.

00:23:32.000 Put aside some of the stubbornness that you're deploying in, ironically, your war against the military-industrial complex And simply wear something, possibly lemon or tangerine.

00:23:44.000 Just think of limey fruits and think of me and Gareth.

00:23:47.000 Either that or a lime background with a shirt.

00:23:50.000 Yeah, think of that, William.

00:23:52.000 Hey, William, thanks for joining us.

00:23:53.000 Thanks for the education.

00:23:53.000 We're posting all of William's information over on Locals, but also in Rumble.

00:23:57.000 But join us in Locals.

00:23:58.000 It's where we have a couple of limey fruits talking about limey fruits.

00:24:03.000 Join us there.

00:24:05.000 OK, William, thanks, man.

00:24:06.000 We'll see you again.

00:24:06.000 Come on again.

00:24:08.000 Thanks for having me.

00:24:08.000 Yes, yes.

00:24:09.000 I like him.

00:24:11.000 Well, say that till he's gone.

00:24:13.000 Sorry, I like him.

00:24:15.000 I think he's great.

00:24:16.000 He was funny, wasn't he?

00:24:17.000 Did you look like him in the chat?

00:24:19.000 He wasn't funny, Ross.

00:24:19.000 Wasn't he funny?

00:24:20.000 Oh, was he?

00:24:22.000 He was extremely revealing.

00:24:24.000 What was it I liked again?

00:24:25.000 All the revelations about, I don't know, Lockheed Martin.

00:24:28.000 I know all that already.

00:24:29.000 Everyone knows that.

00:24:30.000 I liked that he was sort of a bit, like how he was.

00:24:33.000 Right.

00:24:34.000 I like the bit when he says that he got depressed.

00:24:37.000 And I imagined him saying... Well, you pushed him to that.

00:24:40.000 I pushed him to reveal that.

00:24:42.000 Yeah.

00:24:42.000 Like he's been pushing Lucky by, see how he likes it.

00:24:44.000 I saw, imagined him sat on his bath in the morning like Watermattow or whatever.

00:24:50.000 Sort of just a bit hangdog, bit grouchy.

00:24:52.000 You really wanted him to be like, you said, do you ever get depressed about things?

00:24:56.000 And then he said, well, you know, I try to stay upbeat.

00:24:58.000 Do you think I projected it on him?

00:24:59.000 You absolutely did.

00:25:00.000 Did I project that on him?

00:25:01.000 Yeah.

00:25:02.000 Do you think I did?

00:25:02.000 No, no.

00:25:03.000 He likes to act on baby!

00:25:05.000 He did like that.

00:25:06.000 He's probably going to release that.

00:25:07.000 Jack will have a graphic and an album.

00:25:09.000 Jack will probably be collaborating with him right now.

00:25:10.000 I bet Jack is zipping across the Atlantic now to collaborate on a kind of Joshua Tree parody with William Achtung Baby Hartung.

00:25:19.000 It'd be amazing if that's what came out of this.

00:25:21.000 And a love affair.

00:25:22.000 That William actually released an album.

00:25:25.000 It'd be good, especially if on the promo tour he was dour like that.

00:25:30.000 Yeah, dour's going too far.

00:25:32.000 What would you want to describe him as?

00:25:33.000 Understated?

00:25:35.000 Yeah.

00:25:36.000 And fussy?

00:25:37.000 Yes.

00:25:38.000 A new shirt and a new background, you're right Firegirl, that is what needs to happen. 1.00

00:25:41.000 Okay, listen, I'd say enjoy the interview, but some people are saying that I was projecting my own emotional and mental instability upon the guest, which is almost like the leper's bell of a bad broadcaster.

00:25:56.000 He's strong of mind.

00:25:58.000 Of course he is.

00:25:59.000 Let's give us a quid.

00:25:59.000 He's stubborn.

00:26:01.000 Dharmadics.

00:26:02.000 Loved him.

00:26:03.000 He's sincere and genuine.

00:26:04.000 Right.

00:26:05.000 You too have gone full M-I-C-W-E-F, says Pride Faults.

00:26:09.000 Good, innit, this?

00:26:10.000 All right, listen, we're going to do a bit of an extra chat on locals.

00:26:13.000 Are we going to do an extra on locals?

00:26:16.000 Yeah, we can, little one.

00:26:17.000 If you've got some questions, ask us the questions.

00:26:20.000 Also, if you join us on Locals, press that red button.

00:26:21.000 Press that red button now, you're going to love it if you're watching this on Rumble.

00:26:24.000 Join us, it's warm, it's loving.

00:26:25.000 Also, we're going to overthrow the governments, various world governments.

00:26:29.000 Not today, we've got too much on, but later.

00:26:29.000 Not today.

00:26:32.000 Formed, decentralised, anarcho-syndicalist, libertarian, anarcho-wonderland.

00:26:38.000 That's right.

00:26:39.000 No one's telling you what to do, you're going to be completely free, it's going to be great.

00:26:42.000 Also, you can see the RFK interview in full, plus I do weekly meditations, plus we've got podcasts coming up, live ones.

00:26:48.000 Richard Dickey Dawkins, the atheist priest, ironically, will be joining us.

00:26:53.000 I'm excited to speak to Richard Dawkins.

00:26:55.000 I've wanted to speak to him for ages.

00:26:57.000 Remember, in July, we do a live event that you can attend on tomorrow's show.

00:27:04.000 Ahmed Jalili is coming on talking about the protests in Iran, which I don't know enough about other than it's like a movement that began around sort of feminist issues and women's rights and dress code and sharia.

00:27:18.000 I don't know enough.

00:27:19.000 But after I speak to Ahmed Jalili tomorrow, we're going to know a lot more.

00:27:23.000 Hope you're going to behave yourself.

00:27:26.000 Gareth, how do you feel when I press that button that says about the question and everything?

00:27:26.000 I'll try, I'll try.

00:27:30.000 I just never know how to explain it to the guest and he looked so confused at that point.

00:27:35.000 I love it.

00:27:36.000 Yeah, I know you love it.

00:27:37.000 Sometimes, there have been people where I didn't press it because I thought, no, it's too mad.

00:27:41.000 Right.

00:27:41.000 But actually, I'm starting to get my confidence back now.

00:27:43.000 Good, I'm glad about that, yeah.

00:27:45.000 Yeah.

00:27:46.000 I feel like I'm obligated to mention it rather than just move forward with my question.

00:27:56.000 Look at his pride folds.

00:27:57.000 This person's pride folds.

00:27:58.000 I look at them in the comments.

00:27:59.000 The joke is too old. 0.99

00:28:00.000 Let it die.

00:28:00.000 No way.

00:28:01.000 I'm keeping that joke going.

00:28:03.000 It's not just William Hartung that's stubborn.

00:28:10.000 He may be using his obstinance to front up to Lockheed Martin.

00:28:14.000 I'm using mine for actually no reason.

00:28:18.000 That's even more stubborn.

00:28:19.000 Because if your stubbornness is at least engaged with an opposing force.

00:28:22.000 Yeah, you don't have a target.

00:28:23.000 No target.

00:28:25.000 That's what I heard once about ISIS. 0.99

00:28:26.000 Remember ISIS?

00:28:27.000 Yeah.

00:28:28.000 They were around for a bit, weren't they?

00:28:31.000 Obviously, a lot of people in ISIS plainly had comorbidities.

00:28:34.000 That's what I can deduce.

00:28:36.000 Because ISIS, they were the main thing in town. 0.97

00:28:39.000 I read this article once, and it said, they don't care what you do, they don't care if you negotiate.

00:28:44.000 It really scared me, because it was like, they don't care if you negotiate, they don't care if you agree with them, don't care if you appease them, they're just going to carry on doing that.

00:28:51.000 But then, what happened was, is a relatively aggressive cough, and they fell eerily silent.

00:28:57.000 Yeah, didn't stop the FBI spying on 100,000 Americans in, you know, they'll have gone, we're spying on ISIS!

00:29:03.000 100,000 Americans.

00:29:06.000 Yeah, because they can't all of ISIS can't have been Americans.

00:29:09.000 Some of them were British.

00:29:10.000 I remember some of the best ones.

00:29:12.000 Do you remember those four lads?

00:29:13.000 Yeah, people went over because they were promised, in some cases, Nutella.

00:29:16.000 Not that I want to... Well, that was one of the things that the mainstream media said.

00:29:20.000 Oh, it's all about their offering Nutella.

00:29:21.000 How mad is this?

00:29:22.000 If it's Nutella you want, I've got a king-sized jar.

00:29:25.000 So, consider that.

00:29:27.000 Yeah, like there wouldn't be any other reasons.

00:29:29.000 You can get Nutella anywhere these days.

00:29:31.000 It's freely available.

00:29:32.000 It's not just available in Scandinavia, as it was in its origins.

00:29:35.000 Remember, I used to go on holiday, everything was different.

00:29:37.000 Yeah.

00:29:37.000 Remember the feeling going in a Spanish supermarket?

00:29:39.000 Love it.

00:29:40.000 Everything's a bit different.

00:29:40.000 What?

00:29:41.000 What are these biscuits?

00:29:42.000 We're jamming them.

00:29:43.000 This is Jamie Dodger.

00:29:44.000 You've got them at home.

00:29:45.000 Get out.

00:29:46.000 Yeah.

00:29:47.000 Anyway, listen, we're off now, but we're still on Locals.

00:29:49.000 Join us there, ask us a question.

00:29:50.000 A proper question.

00:29:52.000 Proper ones.

00:29:52.000 And don't just try and preach in there, Ndogo.

00:29:55.000 I'm going to learn how to say that name properly, because it does work as a name.

00:29:58.000 All right, see you in a minute.

00:29:59.000 And tomorrow, Omid Jalili, loads of stuff.

00:30:01.000 And, oh, you know the mainstream, the presentation on the mainstream media, the Elon Musk thing, here's the news, no, here's the effing news.

00:30:08.000 That's up on Rumble right now.

00:30:10.000 You can watch that, but don't watch it right now.

00:30:11.000 Stay with us, watch Locals, then watch That.

00:30:14.000 Alright?

00:30:14.000 Not that I'm telling you what to do.

00:30:15.000 Do what you want.

00:30:16.000 I believe in freedom.

00:30:17.000 Join us tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different... See you in a minute.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - May 23, 2023

William Hartung (Exposing the War Profiteers)

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