In this episode, we reveal yet more about the FBI cover-up surrounding the death of Jeffrey Epstein, and the conspiracy theories surrounding the circumstances surrounding his death. We're joined by William Hartung, who exposes the corruption in the military-industrial complex, and exposes the truth about Epstein's affair with Bill Gates and his involvement with Epstein's associate, Jeffrey Epstein. This episode is brought to you by Unexplained Mysteries, a Parcast Original. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/OurAdvertisers We are always looking for new ways to support the work of our amazing sponsors, and we'll be looking to do so in 2020. Thank you so much for all your support, it means the world to us and we can keep on keeping on fighting for freedom and freedom for all of you. Love & Light, EJ & Rory -EDGARRY & THE WOLAFACTORY PODCAST - EPISODE LINKS AND PATREON SETTLE-UP HERE! - - INSTAGRAM: . - FACEBOOK GROUP - FOLLOW US ON ALL SOCIAL MEDIA AND WEBSITE - PODCASTS AND LINKS! - POINTS & LINKS: - FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR NEW EPISODES - CLICK HERE - FREE MEDITATION HERE! - FREE TRAINING MODULE DOWNLOAD THE FREE - FREE PRODUCER HERE! FREE SUPPORTING DOWNLOAD OUR NEW PODOCODE HERE WEBSOCTOBER 2019 - FREE FAST FOLLOWING TRAINER HERE - FREE TO BUY OUR T-CAST FREE PRICING HERE - FREE TO SUBSCRIBE TO OUR SONDS AND TRAIN TO OUR FACEBOOK PAGE - FREE SUPPORT USED TO OUR PODCOLLAGE HERE - DONATIONS TO OUR INSTAKE AND SUPPORT US ON OUR WEBSITTER AND SUPPORT OUR OTHER SOCIALS AND INSTA COURTERM AND PODBOOKS - FREE PODCRYPRODCAST HERE - WELL-BUY OURSEEPSETROLLING TO OUR SUPPORT US AND OTHER LINKSOUTHCOMES TO OUR FRIENDS TO OUR CHALLENGE TO OUR PRODCAST? AND WELL SUPPORT US TO SUPPORT US IN OUR SOCIETY?
00:00:33.000If you're watching us on YouTube, I don't blame you.
00:00:35.000You could be one of the 6.4 million awakening wonders that is turning that platform that is potentially highly regulated, possibly by the WHO, Also by an algorithm and commercial interests into a place of freedom.
00:00:47.000Can we build a new Jerusalem here in cyberspace?
00:01:34.000Like, whoever it was that did that, they're good at mur... I'd say, if it were that he were murdered, it would have to be someone who's very good at murdering people under difficult and tricky circumstances, because they weren't able to get someone into that high security... Murder, get out, no one found out about it.
00:01:47.000So anyway, so we've got more... Well, you're discounting the inside job there.
00:02:01.000We're going to be talking about, on our presentation, Here's the News, we're talking about Elon and, ironically, conspiracy theories.
00:02:08.000And his assertion that many of these conspiracy theories under scrutiny and analysis are not conspiracy theories at all, rather dissenting views that are outside the mainstream establishment narrative, which, of course, Ultimately, it always ends up being about centralising authority and being able to control financial outcomes and assert dominion.
00:02:29.000There's a blackout on Biden's business bombshells, baby.
00:02:36.000Also, we've got William Hartung, baby, exposing corruption in the military-industrial complex.
00:02:41.000I know some of you are doing a drinking game where every time I say military-industrial complex, you have a drink and some of you are suffering from alcoholism.
00:02:49.000As a result, because I'm always going on about it.
00:02:51.000Well, I'm so sorry for telling the truth, Theo, about important stuff.
00:04:38.000A Massachusetts judge deciding that 21 year old airman Jack Tashira will stay behind bars
00:04:45.000Tashira charged with leaking troves of sensitive classified data.
00:04:48.000Troves of treasure words are sneaking in.
00:04:51.000I'm hearing a lot of words like treasure, piracy, argh, gym lad.
00:04:56.000All of it sneaking into the mainstream lexicon.
00:04:58.000There are also terms like sensitive information, but at no point does he say, which we should probably have access to some of that sensitive information.
00:05:06.000Especially if it relates to uh this ongoing war this war that you're paying for that you're funding did you want to know about it or should we just just do what we want now we'll focus on the things that he has done look how little he is he's only about that big look that's that's him if he was stood there he'd only be as high as he was in that picture a little limpet of a lad it's online in addition he was allegedly not particularly shy about his love of guns and racist and anti-semitic views now air force memos show
00:06:44.000The thing about that report... Have you got something important to say, mate?
00:06:46.000Well, it's not... I guess I don't know if it's important, but that's exactly what they do, doesn't it?
00:06:50.000They focus on... I mean, even when they're mentioning his love of guns, it's like, let's focus on the individual and the things that we can dig up about him that may or may not be true, rather than the actual things that he had to say.
00:07:42.000I don't know what you call them in America.
00:07:44.000In a minute, we're going to be talking about the FBI suspending free whistleblowers who simply wanted to tell you the truth about January 6th.
00:07:49.000If you're watching this thinking, why is this guy talking about jump castles?
00:07:54.000In a minute you'll be thinking, why is this guy telling us some hard home truth about the infiltration of January 6th protests by CIA assets?
00:08:22.000You might be wondering when I'm next going to mention the Military-Industrial Complex.
00:08:26.000It's in a matter of seconds because I'm being joined by William Hartung, author of Prophets of War, Lockheed Martin and the making of, yeah you guessed it guys, get ready for a drink, the Military-Industrial Complex.
00:08:38.000Hello there William, thanks so much for joining us.
00:08:44.000...and stop standing in front of a background that's the same color as your shirt.
00:08:48.000You'll look like a head floating in space, like a Lockheed Martin missile soaring terrifyingly through the sky.
00:08:54.000Now before you critique Raytheon and Northrop Grumman, you should learn how to at least unmute yourself.
00:09:00.000Otherwise, you give them the advantage, sir!
00:09:13.000Hey, come on then, what's going on with the military-industrial complex? Is it driven by
00:09:17.000greed and special interests or is it driven by national security and a desire to protect
00:09:21.000the good people of America? Well, it hides behind the rhetoric of national security,
00:09:27.000but it's basically a racket for picking the pockets of the taxpayers. Yes, that's interesting.
00:09:33.000The US is the world's largest arms dealer.
00:09:35.000How on earth have we arrived in a position where the most powerful nation on earth facilitates arms sales, even delivering them in some cases?
00:09:43.000Which is the worst of all of the arms dealing companies and why?
00:09:48.000Well, it's kind of a toss-up between Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.
00:09:52.000They created the bombs that have killed thousands of civilians in Yemen.
00:10:02.000Some of the most repressive regimes in the world, even as they try to dress themselves up as some sort of arsenal of democracy, they're actually an arsenal of dictatorships.
00:10:19.000The asset list for the interview with William.
00:10:22.000It'll be good if I just give me those things so that at the top of it says William Hartung and then it's a list of the assets and questions in one place on one sheet so I can Thank you very much.
00:10:33.000So the world's largest dance producing companies are listed there and by far and away Lockheed Martin is the greater.
00:10:40.000What do you think is the relationship between those kind of sales and their donation strategy to, you know, say the Democrat Party but also the Republican Party and the expenditure on lobbying, William?
00:10:55.000I mean, there's some members of Congress who tried to cut off sales to Yemen, to the Philippines, other places, but the industry gave $83 million to Congress in the last two election cycles.
00:11:07.000They have 820 lobbyists, which is more than there are members of Congress.
00:11:12.000There's actually three or four peace lobbyists, so it's obviously not a fair fight.
00:11:17.000While we pull up this Eisenhower quote, could you tell me about peace lobbyists, how they're funded and what their role is?
00:11:22.000the last five US Secretaries of Defense came from weapons companies, like Raytheon, Boeing, and General Dynamics. So
00:11:30.000this is revolving door that goes both ways. And people profit in
00:11:35.000While we pull up this Eisenhower quote, could you tell me about
00:11:40.000peace lobbyists, how they're funded and what their role is?
00:11:43.000Although, of course, I can ascertain to a degree what it might be from their name.
00:11:48.000Well, most of them are funded by individuals.
00:11:51.000There's groups like the Friends Committee on National Legislation.
00:11:54.000There's the Council for a Livable World.
00:11:57.000You know, they're fighting to reduce Pentagon spending, to cut nuclear spending, to get us out of some of these wars.
00:12:05.000But it's an uphill fight, both, I think, because of ideology and because of just the sheer force of money on the other side.
00:12:15.000Enoch Powell, who is often credited with inspiring much of the right-wing and ethno-nationalist rhetoric that prevails to this day, once said of Britain, you cannot have Britain without a monarchy.
00:12:29.000Britain is fundamentally and essentially a monarchy.
00:12:32.000Once you abolish the monarchy, you no longer have Britain.
00:12:37.000Do you think the same could be said of the United States of America and the military-industrial complex?
00:12:42.000Is war so integral to the economic model of the United States of America that it's unthinkable to rid America of this institution?
00:12:54.000Well, it's not a huge part of the economy, but it's politically wired because they give money to the members of Congress who decide how much to spend on the Pentagon.
00:13:03.000They spread their jobs all over the country.
00:13:08.000They are involved in government commissions that define what the so-called threats are.
00:13:13.000So it's kind of a political stranglehold.
00:13:15.000I mean, we could build another kind of economy, but it would be a heavy lift because of all these political interconnections.
00:13:24.000What's the Quincy Institute that you're there representing, William?
00:13:29.000We're a trans-partisan, meaning we're not affiliated with the other party.
00:13:34.000We work with people across the spectrum.
00:13:36.000And our basic thrust is end endless wars, more diplomacy.
00:13:42.000And in this climate, that's a surprisingly controversial stance.
00:13:46.000Shouldn't be, but in many quarters it is, unfortunately.
00:13:50.000Do you find that the different conflicts have different inflections to the two parties?
00:13:57.000Specifically, when speaking about diplomacy ending the current Russia-Ukraine conflict, do you find that that's batted back a lot by Democratic representatives and with the escalations of tensions between the US and China regarding Taiwan and semiconductors that the Republican Party seem to be agitating for conflict?
00:14:15.000Are both parties in the business of war and are there inflections and accents within Both parties are split.
00:14:24.000There's more Republicans critical of arming Ukraine than there are Democrats, although some progressive Democrats are at least pushing diplomacy.
00:14:32.000On the other hand, I think both parties are fairly hawkish about China, unfortunately, at this point, which is kind of the driver of these huge Pentagon budgets, which are moving towards a trillion dollars a year, if we don't stand in the way and try to stop that.
00:14:48.000Do you think that we can learn anything other than certain economic affiliations from the way that they perceive these conflicts?
00:14:55.000Is there anything to be gleaned from the distinctions that you just outlined?
00:15:01.000Well, I think the people who are on the take, who get the campaign contributions, who have the weapons factories in their districts, tend to be pro-war on either side of the aisle.
00:15:14.000And the ones who are less bound by that tend to be free to be more critical.
00:15:19.000if I could just pass over to my colleague Gareth Roy who has an inquiry for you now.
00:15:23.000Hi William, sorry about the little noise there.
00:15:32.000I'm really interested in the way in which I guess calling for diplomacy, I guess with the current situation with Russia and Ukraine, has become an issue that is now hard to talk about even seemingly on the left.
00:15:49.000We kind of know the ways in which The military-industrial complex kind of seems to donate equally to both parties.
00:15:57.000We know that lobbyists, I think three, I think it's something like three quarters of lobbyists have been previously members of the government.
00:16:05.000It's all tied up massively to make sure that these increased Pentagon budgets keep going, that money keeps filtering through to the military-industrial complex, and yet Talking about this, raising this as a possibility as to why war is continued seems to be pushed over to the fringes to the kind of almost like conspiracy theorists now to be raising these issues that used to be a left-wing talking point and I wondered what your thought is on how that has happened and maybe the influence that potentially the military industrial complex has had on that.
00:16:41.000Well, I think the Russian invasion has just thrown everything up in the air in terms of positions on the left and right.
00:16:47.000But what interests me is not only is the complex getting tens of billions of dollars for arming Ukraine, but of course, they pushed for NATO expansion in the 90s and have been selling U.S.
00:17:01.000And they're trying to say, well, Ukraine shows we need more weapons, we need to Move them faster.
00:17:07.000We need to build up, supersize the military industrial complex.
00:17:11.000So they're seizing this moment to try to get all kinds of favors that they've wanted for years.
00:17:16.000And much of this is not going to even affect Ukraine.
00:17:19.000It's just going to line the pockets of the contractors.
00:17:24.000Hey William, we've got a great question here from Achela in our chat.
00:17:28.000She says, is POTUS really the commander-in-chief when it comes to the matters of war, or is the real commander-in-chief the person who commands the POTUS?
00:17:40.000Well, I think he's restrained in many ways by the political climate, and the military-industrial complex helps to set that climate.
00:17:49.000So, you know, for example, there was a commission that talked about how we weren't spending enough on the Pentagon.
00:17:57.000And that commission was appointed by Congress.
00:17:59.000More than half the members were consultants to the military industry, executives of the military industry, think tanks funded by the military industry.
00:18:09.000So they have great power in shaping the parameters of debate, of shaping the environment in Congress.
00:18:16.000So if we had a president who wanted to end every war right now, they'd be up against all that, you know, that kind of political wall they'd have to get over.
00:18:27.000When you're engaged in matters that seem intractable like this, how does it affect your personal morality and your personal hope?
00:18:38.000Do you feel drained occasionally by the scale of your task?
00:18:43.000How do you feel that this will evolve and develop, the issue of trying to curtail military expenditure and agitation for unnecessary wars?
00:19:27.000I mean, you know, we're up against it and it's their powerful interests and they've been, you know, getting their way in terms of money, in terms of profiting from wars and so forth.
00:19:38.000But on the other hand, I feel a great sense of mission to try to put out alternative information.
00:20:05.000There's, you know, you get emails, you get when you have debates, people try to, you know, pin you as pro-Putin and so forth.
00:20:15.000But I think the best way to go at it is just to dismiss that as ridiculous and, you know, make the arguments you need to make and not let it affect you.
00:20:24.000Do you want us to send you some encouraging emails solely for the purpose of boosting your morale?
00:20:30.000So when you open your laptop tomorrow, it'll be like loads of them, like going, yeah, go on, William!
00:20:36.000William Hartung, using a new nickname we've developed for you, William Hartung Baby, from the name of the U2 album, deluging you with praise, sometimes bordering on sycophancy and hysteria, just to put some pep in your step as you begin your day tomorrow.
00:20:51.000Well, I think, you know, if people went to our YouTube page, I would be thrilled, because I'm represented there at at Quincy INST.
00:21:10.000As long as you can wear some sunglasses and then decades into your career claim it's for an eye condition, you are overqualified for the business.
00:21:19.000Alright, so you can listen to William's new album, Ha Tong Baby, on his YouTube page, which is, what's it called again, William?
00:21:41.000Lockheed Martin and the Making of the Military-Industrial Complex.
00:21:44.000You think Lockheed Martin is the worst one.
00:21:47.000Have they not made anything that's good, like a telescope or something?
00:21:51.000Well, they're the most corrupt company in the history of the military-industrial complex in terms of cost overruns, bribery, overcharging, selling to dictatorships, getting the government to subsidize their mergers.
00:22:06.000So they're kind of a model of what not to do in terms of responsible corporation, if there is such a thing.
00:22:17.000Yeah, and I chose them for my book because they're kind of a case study in the development of that complex and its growing power.
00:22:25.000They, you know, get more money a year in many years than the whole State Department.
00:22:31.000They probably get as much money as the whole military budget when I gave his military industrial complex speech.
00:22:38.000So he couldn't have dreamed this kind of money and power, you know, when he was raising the alarm about this in the early 1960s.
00:22:48.000Zypher2000 said we need an antitrust breakup.
00:22:52.000NoDuggoNoCo says Profits of Profit would be a good title as well for the first book, but, you know, using the different spellings of it, but Noga Donoku did earlier say that he was going to move him to Gareth's house without first asking permission.
00:23:09.000So, I don't know if we want him in a brainstorm.
00:23:19.000William, I feel that we've had a nice time together and I would like very much if you'd come on our show again and next time I would look at the contrast between the backdrop and your shirt and think very carefully.
00:23:32.000Put aside some of the stubbornness that you're deploying in, ironically, your war against the military-industrial complex And simply wear something, possibly lemon or tangerine.
00:23:44.000Just think of limey fruits and think of me and Gareth.
00:23:47.000Either that or a lime background with a shirt.
00:25:38.000A new shirt and a new background, you're right Firegirl, that is what needs to happen.
00:25:41.000Okay, listen, I'd say enjoy the interview, but some people are saying that I was projecting my own emotional and mental instability upon the guest, which is almost like the leper's bell of a bad broadcaster.
00:26:57.000Remember, in July, we do a live event that you can attend on tomorrow's show.
00:27:04.000Ahmed Jalili is coming on talking about the protests in Iran, which I don't know enough about other than it's like a movement that began around sort of feminist issues and women's rights and dress code and sharia.
00:28:36.000Because ISIS, they were the main thing in town.
00:28:39.000I read this article once, and it said, they don't care what you do, they don't care if you negotiate.
00:28:44.000It really scared me, because it was like, they don't care if you negotiate, they don't care if you agree with them, don't care if you appease them, they're just going to carry on doing that.
00:28:51.000But then, what happened was, is a relatively aggressive cough, and they fell eerily silent.
00:28:57.000Yeah, didn't stop the FBI spying on 100,000 Americans in, you know, they'll have gone, we're spying on ISIS!
00:29:59.000And tomorrow, Omid Jalili, loads of stuff.
00:30:01.000And, oh, you know the mainstream, the presentation on the mainstream media, the Elon Musk thing, here's the news, no, here's the effing news.